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gnams

May 15th, 2011, 01:49 PM

Did you read Hindu paper link which i have posted? She has asked police not to stop any traffic for her convoy and even pro-dmk english paper mouth piece like Hindu has written that.

If you have watched Sun TV and Kalaignar TV they might have given hype like below and people are there to believe it.

"Jayalalithaval anna salai isthambitthu nindrathu.... kalaignar atchiyil parrysilirunthu, tambarathuku 20 nimidathil sentra vaganangal, intru muthal 20 mani neram agum..........:nuts:"

and regarding semozhi library, as if it was functioning for past 5yrs and ADMK gvt shifted to unknow place.

IMHO, shift the semozhi library and make the new TNLA as the building related to semozhi Tamil. bring...........

1. Tamil Semozhi library
2. Kumarikandam and Poompuhar research center
3. One more Tamil university
4. Tamil software development center
5. Tamil language development

etc., etc., these departments can be there in that 1000crores water tank instead of the politicians.

Win-Win situation!!

Jaya can claim she is savior of Tamil language
MK can claim he is the owner of that building and savior of Semozhi Tamil.

This is the height of non-sense..!
whatever building it is... TNLA new assembly.. whether it is a corrupted building.. or built by corrupt politician... whatever it is..

it is a govt building built by a govt selected/elected by the same ppl and built for the purpose of serving ppl... (even if it is built for his pride, do u think karuna believed he is the only guy/his is the only party going to rule from there or built for his own use? .. nope)

it is a govt building built for govt and whoever it is .. has to abide by the rules (both written and ethical) and shudnt play ego games here..

and just because at this point of time u r supporting ADMK and amma , u shud not advocate moving the building to Fort St.George..

let us just see an exampl in the capital city itself which u guys were talking...

let us assume jaya builds a gr8 admin city in Tiruchi and makes Tiruchi as the capital and Tiruchi also gets into full business, will u support if the next DMK govt (only if here) shifts the capital again to chennai and makes admin city in Tiruchi as Tamil mozhi aaraychi niruvanam?

got my point?

whatever it is..
how Taj mahal is impt to Agra
how Red fort is impt to delhi
same.. Fort.. St.george is impt to chennai.. it is a historical treasure..
and again moving the Secretariat out of Fort is a decison made by both DMK and ADMK govts and just reverting it on ego is not acceptable.

and FYI..it is not owned by TN govt.. (taken on lease.. adhavathu vadagaikku)
and it is not owned by army or navy also... both army/navy/TN govt are occupying the building and refuses to leave it to the real owner who is ASI(archealogical society of india)

so, forming the secretariat in Fort.St.George is biggest mistake and supporting it is utter non-sense..

if some one wants more information how informed circles are feeling on this, pls contact Dr.Suresh of INTACH.. he will tell u the story of Fort.St.George into the hands of TN politicians.

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 01:59 PM

I was checking the % of votes polled by various parties. i feel really very sad for vaiko's MDMK. i think if MDMK remained part of AIADMK alliance it would have won 230/234 seats. sad that vaiko left the alliance.

Jagadeesh R

May 15th, 2011, 02:02 PM

தமிழ்நாட்டின் சபாநாயகராக பழ. கருப்பையாவாக நியமிக்கப்படுவார் என்று அ.தி.மு.க. வட்டாரங்களில் பேசப்படுகிறது.

தமிழ்நாட்டில் அ.தி.மு.க. ஆட்சி அமையப் போகிறது. யாரெல்லாம் அமைச்சர்களாக, அதுவும் எந்த துறை யாரு யாருக்கு என்ற விவாதங்கள் பற்பல இடங்களில் நடந்து வருகின்றன. தலைமைச் செயலகத்தில் யார் கோலோச்சும் அதிகாரிகள் என்றும் பரபரப்பாக விவாதம் நடந்து வருகிறது.

கடந்த 2001-06ம் ஆண்டில் நிதி அமைச்சராக இருந்தவர் பொன்னையன். இவர் நிதி நிர்வாகத்தை திறமையாக கையாண்டார். மறுப்பதற்கில்லை. சக அமைச்சர்களுக்கு பைல் எப்படி பார்க்க வேண்டும் என்பது முதல் எந்த பணிகளை எப்படி செய்ய வேண்டும் என்பது வரை கற்றுக் கொடுத்தார்.

இன்று அந்த நிதி அமைச்சர் பதவிக்கு யார் வரப்போகிறார்கள் என்பதுதான் பெரிய கேள்வி.

முதல்வராக இருக்கும் ஜெயலலிதாவே நிதி அமைச்சகத்தை கையில் வைத்துக் கொள்ளலாம். ஆனால், அவரது உடல் நிலை காரணமாக கடும் வேலை பளுவை ஏற்க மாட்டார் என்று போயஸ் வட்டாரங்கள் சொல்கின்றன. அதனால், ஓ.பன்னீர்செல்வத்துக்கு நிதி அமைச்சர் பதவி கிடைக்கலாம் என்று சொல்லப்படுகிறது.

1991-96 வரை போக்குவரத்துத் துறை அமைச்சராக இருந்த செங்கோட்டையன் இந்த முறை மூன்றாவது அந்தஸ்துக்கு வரலாம். அதாவது பொதுப்பணி மற்றும் நெடுஞ்சாலைத்துறை அமைச்சராக வருவார் என்று எதிர்பார்க்கப்படுகிறது.

ஜெயகுமார் கடந்த முறை மின் துறை அமைச்சராக இருந்தார். பின்னர் அத்துறையை நத்தம் விஸ்வநாதனுக்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்டது. இந்த முறை ஜெயகுமாருக்கு அதிக வாய்ப்பு என்கிறார்கள்.

போக்குவரத்துத் துறை நத்தம் விஸ்வநாதனுக்கு கிடைக்கலாம். தொழில்துறை பொள்ளாச்சி ஜெயராமன் அல்லது நயினார் நாகேந்திரனுக்கு கிடைக்கலாம். மக்கள் நல்வாழ்வுத்துறை அமைச்சராக சி.வி.சண்முகம் வரலாம்.

சென்னையில் கோகுல இந்திராவுக்கு அமைச்சராகும் வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது. ஆர்.கே.நகரில் சேகர் பாபுவை தோற்கடித்த வெற்றிவேலுக்கும் அமைச்சரவையில் இடம் இருப்பதாக சொல்லப்படுகிறது. தி.நகர் எம்.எல்.ஏ.வாக இரண்டு முறை தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ள கலைராஜன் கொறடாவாக வரலாம்.

ராசிபுரம் தனபால், சங்கரன்கோவில் கருப்பசாமி, ஒரத்தநாடு வைத்திலிங்கம், காஞ்சிபுரம் சோமசுந்தரம், கலசபாக்கம் அக்ரி கிருஷ்ணமூர்த்தி, கிருஷ்னகிரி கே.பி.முனுசாமி இவர்களுடன் பாதிக்கும் மேற்பட்ட அமைச்சர்கள் புது முகங்களாக இருப்பார்கள் என்று பேசப்படுகிறது.

அதில் வேலூர் டாக்டர் விஜய், கே.சி.வீரமணி, கரூர் செந்திலபாலாஜி, எடப்பாடி பழனிச்சாமி, ஈரோடு மேற்கு கே.வி.ராமலிங்கம், ஊட்டி புத்தி சந்திரன், திருச்சி மேற்கு மரியம் பிச்சை, முசிறி சிவபதி, நன்னிலம் காமராஜ், விராலிமலை விஜயபாஸ்கர், மதுரை போஸ், அருப்புக்கோட்டை வைகைச் செல்வன், கன்னியாகுமரி பச்சைமால், ராணிப்பேட்டை முகமதுகான் ஆகியோரில் பலருக்கு யோகம் அடிக்கும்.

சென்னை மேயர்:

ஆட்சிக்கு வந்ததும் தமிழ்நாட்டில் இருக்கும் உள்ளாட்சி அமைப்புகளை ஜெயலலிதா கலைத்துவிடுவார் என்று பேச்சு வருகிறது. இதை செய்யவே தேவையில்லை. மூன்று மாதங்கள் கழித்து நடக்கும் உள்ளாட்சி தேர்தலில் அ.தி.மு.க. மற்றும் தே.மு.தி.க. கூட்டணிக்கு நல்ல வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது. அந்த நேரத்தில் சென்னை மேயராக சைதை துரைசாமியை கொண்டு வந்தால், சென்னைக்கு பெரும் லாபம் என்பதை விட கட்சிக்கு வரப்பிரசாதமாக இருப்பார்.

முதலமைச்சரின் முதன்மைச் செயலராக ராம்மோகன் ராவ், இரண்டாவது செயலராக வெங்கட்ராமன், இணைச் செயலராக ராமலிங்கம் ஆகிய ஐ.ஏ.எஸ். அதிகாரிகள் நியமிக்கப்பட இருப்பதாக தகவல்கள் வந்துள்ளன.

தலைமைச் செயலர் அந்தஸ்தில் இருக்கும் ஷீலா பிரியாவும் முதல்வரின் செயலராக இருக்கவே ஆசைப்படுகிறாராம். அதனால், தலைமைச் செயலராக ஷீலா பாலகிருஷ்ணன் அல்லது ஷீலா ராணி சுங்கத் ஆகிய இருவரில் ஒருவருக்கு வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது. அல்லது பருக்கி ஐ.ஏ.எஸ். கூட தலைமைச் செயலராக வரலாம்.

அ.தி.மு.க.வுக்கு ஓர் விண்ணப்பம் அல்லது பரிசீலனை:

இக்கருத்தை, அ.தி.மு.க. தலைமைக்கு விண்ணப்பமாகவோ அல்லது பரிசீலிக்கவோ தமிழ் லீடர் இணைய தளம் முன் வைக்கிறது.

தமிழ்நாட்டில் அமையப் போகும் புதிய அமைச்சரவையில், புதிய கலாசாரத்தை முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா ஏற்படுத்த வேண்டும்.

சட்டமன்றத்தின் புதிய சபாநாயகராக எதிர்கட்சி அந்தஸ்தில் இருக்கும் தே.மு.தி.க.வைச் சேர்ந்த பண்ருட்டி ராமச்சந்திரனை நியமிக்க வேண்டும். அவ்வாறு செய்வது நாட்டில் நல்லதொரு முன்னுதாரணத்தை மட்டுமல்ல, தி.மு.க.வின் தந்திரங்கள் எதுவுமே இந்த ஐந்து ஆண்டுகளில் எடுபடாமல் செய்துவிடலாம்.

மேலும், ஐந்து வருடங்களுக்கு கூட்டணி கட்சிகளை கட்டி காப்பாற்ற வேண்டியதும் அவசியமாகும். அடுத்து வரும் உள்ளாட்சித் தேர்தல், 2014ம் ஆண்டு நடைபெறும் மக்களவைத் தேர்தலில் இதே சக்தி இருந்தால் தான் தி.மு.க.வின அகில உலக ஊழல் விவகாரங்களை நாட்டு மக்களுக்கு வெளிச்சம் போட்டு காட்ட முடியும்!

ஒற்றுமை இருந்தால் தான் அ.தி.மு.கவால் ஜெயிக்க முடியும். இல்லையென்றால், எதிர்கட்சிகளை இழுத்து கருணாநிதி எதிர்ப்பு அரசியல் நடத்தி அ.தி.மு.க.வை அல்லாட செய்துவிடுவார் கருணாநிதி!

SOURCE: www.tamilleader.in (http://tamilleader.in/news/160-2011-05-15-08-21-37.html)

Jagadeesh R

May 15th, 2011, 02:09 PM

முதலில்....

தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்களின் தீர்ப்புக்கு வணங்கி வணக்கம் சொல்லிக் கொள்வதில் அம்பலவாணன் பெருமை கொள்கிறான்!

தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்களே!

தன்மானம் காத்தவர்களே!

பணத்தை பிணமாக மதித்தவர்களே!

ஊழலுக்கு கடும் எதிர்ப்பை காட்டியவர்களே!

இந்த ஆட்சி மாற்றத்துக்கு அடிகோடிலிய பத்திரிகையாளர்களே!

அனைவருக்கும் என் சிரம் தாழந்த வணக்கம்!

எப்படி நடந்தது இந்த ரசவாத மாற்றம் என்று தி.மு.க.வில் இன்னும் சில நாட்களில் கூட்டம் கூடி ஆலோசிப்பார்கள்.

என்ன சிரிப்பு வருகிறதா? நாட்டு மக்களின் எண்ண ஓட்டத்தை அறிய முடியாத மன்னன்னாக திகழ்ந்தார் கலைஞர் கருணாநிதி.

மக்களோடு மக்களாக பழக வேண்டிய மந்திரிமார்கள், அன்னியப்பட்டு ராத்திரி லீலைகளில் மட்டும் மக்களிடம் புழங்கிக் கொண்டிருந்தார்கள். அந்த நேரத்தில் கூட தனக்கு வேண்டியவர்களை அழைத்துக் கொண்டு போனதற்கு காரணம், ஒரு வித பாதுகாப்புக்கு மட்டுமே.

மற்ற நேரங்களில் மக்களை பார்க்க தவறியவர்கள். இன்னும் சிலர் உண்மையை உணர்ந்திருந்தாலும், பணத்தை வீசினால் பாழப்போனவர்கள் ஓட்டு போட்டுவிடுவார்கள் என்று அசாத்திய நம்பிக்கை வைத்திருந்தார்கள்.

தி.மு.க.வின் சாதனைகளை சொன்னாலே போதும் என்று மேடைக்கு மேடை முழங்கியவர்கள், நீங்கள் செய்த சாதனைகளை விட மக்களுக்கு கொடுத்த சோதனைகள், வேதனைகள் என்ன என்பதை பட்டியல் போட்டு பாருங்கள். நீங்கள் செய்த தவறு என்ன என்பது தெரியும்.

முதலில், உங்கள் உடம்பில் இருக்கும் புண்களுக்கு மருந்து தடவிக் கொண்டு, காயங்களையும் ரணங்களையும் ஆற்றிக் கொள்ளுங்கள். ஊழல் புற்றுநோயால் சிக்கிக் கொண்டிருப்பவர்களை காப்பாற்ற துடிக்காதீர்கள். அவர்களுக்கு அறுவை சிகிச்சை மூலம் புரிய வையுங்கள்.

இத்தோடு மேலும் எரிகிற நெருப்பில் எண்ணெய் ஊற்ற மாட்டான் இந்த அம்பலவாணன்.

ஆட்சிக்கு வந்திருக்கும் அ.தி.மு.க. அணிக்கு வாழ்த்துக்களை சொல்லிக் கொள்வது என் கடமை. அதே நேரத்தில், வந்திருக்கும் ஆட்சியை யாராலும் அகற்ற முடியாது. நாம் அசூர பலத்தில் வந்திருக்கிறோம் என்று செயல்பட வேண்டாம் என்று சொல்வதும் என் கடமைதான்.

அ.தி.மு.க. ஆட்சிக்கு வந்ததுமே, அதிகாரிகள் குறிப்பாக ஐ.ஏ.எஸ். அதிகாரிகளை விட ஐ.பி.எஸ். அதிகாரிகள் ஓடி வந்த காட்சியை கண்டதுமே சிரிப்புதான் வருகிறது.

அ.தி.மு.க. லீடிங் என்றதுமே, ஏன் அவர்கள் ஓடி வர வேண்டும். போயஸ் கார்டனில் தொண்டர்களோடு தொண்டர்களாக அவர்கள் தள்ளிக் கொண்டு சென்ற காட்சி... உச்சக்கட்ட காமெடி.

போயஸ் தோட்டத்தின் எல்லை மயிலாப்பூர் போலீஸ் துணை கமிஷனர்க்குட்பட்டது.

முதலில், அவரை அங்கே அனுப்பி, தொண்டர்கள் கூட்டத்தை வழியாக முறையாக, சரிப்படுத்தி அதிகாரிகள் அங்கே வந்தால், ஜெயலலிதாவிடம் யார் போய் சொல்ல வேண்டுமோ, அவர்களை பார்த்துவிட்ட பிறகு, மேல் அதிகாரிகளுக்கு தகவல் கொடுக்க வேண்டும். இதுதான் இதுவரை கண்ட நடைமுறை.

இதுகூட தெரியாமல் சென்னை போலீஸ் கமிஷனரகம் எப்படி செயல்பட்டது என்று டிவியை பார்த்தால், கேவலமாக இருக்கிறது.

சரி விடுங்கள்!

இப்போது யார் புதிய போலீஸ் அதிகாரிகளாக தமிழ்நாட்டின் முக்கிய பதவிகளை அலங்கரிக்கப் போகிறார்கள் என்று பரபரப்பாக விவாதித்து வருகிறார்கள்.

அதை தமிழ் லீடர் இணைய தள வாசர்களுக்காக, தருவதுதான் முறை!

டி.ஜி.பி.யாக இருக்கும் போலோநாத்... அவரே தொடர்ந்து இருப்பார் என்று டி.ஜி.பி. அலுவலக வட்டாரம் சொல்கிறது. இல்லை அவரை தூக்கிவிட்டு, ஒரு வாரம் கழித்து கூடுதல் டி.ஜி.பி.யாக இருக்கும் உபாத்யாயா டி.ஜி.பி.யாக பதவி உயர்வு கொடுத்து, அவரைத்தான் சட்டம் –ஒழுங்கு டி.ஜி.பி.யாக அமர்த்துவார்கள் என்ற பேச்சும் இருக்கிறது.

இதைவிட, தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு பெருமை சேர்க்கும் வகையில், மத்திய ரிசர்வ் படையின் தலைவராக இருக்கும் விஜயகுமார் கூட டி.ஜி.பி. ஆகலாம். ஆனால், அவர் தமிழ்நாட்டுக்கு வருவாரா? என்று சிலர் கேட்கிறார்கள்.

அப்படி கேட்கிறவர்களுக்கு ஒரு தகவல்.

ஜெயலலிதாவை போயஸ் கார்டனில் மே 13ம் தேதி முதலில் சென்று வாழ்த்துச் சொன்னவர் சி.ஆர்.பி.எப். டி.ஜி.பி.யான விஜயகுமார்தான். அதற்காகவே, அவர் சென்னைக்கு விமானம் மூலம் அன்று காலை வந்ததாக சொல்கிறார்கள்.

டி.ஜி.பி. பதவியை விட, சென்னை போலீஸ் கமிஷனர் பதவி யாருக்கு என்பதுதான் மில்லியன் டாலர் கேள்வி?

திரிபாதியா... ஜார்ஜா...

அனேகமாக கூடுதல் டி.ஜி.பி.யாக இருக்கும் திரிபாதி வரலாம். கூடுதல் டி.ஜி.பி.யாக இருக்கும் ஜார்ஜ் சட்டம் –ஒழுங்கு கூடுதல் டி.ஜி.பி.யாக நியமிக்கப்படலாம். அல்லது ஊழல் தடுப்பு மற்றும் கண்காணிப்பு துறையான விஜிலென்ஸ் இயக்குனராக ஜார்ஜ் நியமிக்கப்படலாம் என்றும் பேச்சுக்கள் வருகின்றன.

அடுத்து உளவுத்துறைதான் ஒவ்வொரு ஆட்சியிலும் முக்கிய பங்கு வகிக்கிறது. உளவுத்துறைக்கு கூடுதல் டி.ஜி.பி.யாக யார் வருகிறார்களோ தெரியாது. ஆனால், ஐ.ஜி.யாக தாமரைக்கண்ணன் நிச்சயம் வருவார் என்று உளவுத்துறையே உளவு சொல்லி வருகிறது.

சென்னை புறநகர் கமிஷனராக இருப்பவர் கரன் சின்கா. இவரே அந்தப் பதவியில் தொடர விருப்பம் தெரிவித்து இருக்கிறார். ஆனால், அந்தப் பதவிக்காக கருணா சாகர், எம்.ரவி, சைலேந்திரபாபு உள்ளிட்ட சிலர் கடும் முயற்சியில் இறங்கியுள்ளனர்.

நான்கு மண்டல ஐ.ஜி.க்கள் பதவிகளை பிடிக்கவும் கடும் போட்டிகள் நிலவி வருகின்றன.

சென்னை நகருக்குள் இணை கமிஷனர், துணை கமிஷனர் பதவிகளும் முக்கியமானவை.

நெல்லை டி.ஐ.ஜி.யாக இருக்கும் சண்முக ராஜேஸ்வரன், நெல்லை கமிஷனராக இருக்கும் வரதராஜூ, விழுப்புரம் டி.ஐ.ஜியாக இருக்கும் பொன்.மாணிக்கவேல், சேலம் டி.ஐ.ஜியாக இருக்கும் வெங்கட்ராமன் உள்ளிட்ட சிலர் சென்னையில் உட்கார வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது.

இதுதவிர, சென்னையில் போக்குவரத்து துணை கமிஷனராக இருக்கும் மனோகர்தான் சிறப்பான இடத்தில் இருக்கிறார்.

அவர்தான் முதல்வரின் பாதுகாப்பு எஸ்.பி. பதவி... உளவுத்துறை எஸ்.பி. பதவி........ என்றாலும் சிலாகிக்கப்படுகிறார்!

யார் வந்தாலும், வாழ்த்துக்கள்!

நாட்டு மக்களுக்கு நாலு உதவிகளை செய்துவிட்டுப் போங்கள்!

நன்றி!

விரையில் அமைச்சரவையில் இடம் பெறப் போகிறவர்கள்... யாருக்கு என்ன துறை என்ற விவரத்தோடு இன்று மாலையில் சந்திக்க முயற்சிக்கிறேன்!

SOURCE: www.tamilleader.in (http://tamilleader.in/arasiyal/159-2011-05-15-04-01-30.html)

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 02:15 PM

murlee

May 15th, 2011, 02:18 PM

அந்த நேரத்தில் சென்னை மேயராக சைதை துரைசாமியை கொண்டு வந்தால், சென்னைக்கு பெரும் லாபம் என்பதை விட கட்சிக்கு வரப்பிரசாதமாக இருப்பார்.

This would be good for Chennai City.

Present Mayor was actually doing a good job too!! Anyways, we need to depoliticize Mayors n all.. Like NY city.. There mayor, Some Bloomberg has been there for many yrs now!!

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 02:20 PM

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Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 02:21 PM

அந்த நேரத்தில் சென்னை மேயராக சைதை துரைசாமியை கொண்டு வந்தால், சென்னைக்கு பெரும் லாபம் என்பதை விட கட்சிக்கு வரப்பிரசாதமாக இருப்பார்.

This would be good for Chennai City.

murlee

May 15th, 2011, 02:24 PM

Reg. this making it a tamil centre.. I think we already have many such things... There is a Tamil centre coming at Perumbakkam I think... What we really want is maybe a Science and Tech centre with good facilities!! It could be made a Science R&D park... that would be awesome!!

P.S Its not like my suggestions are gonna be taken by govt or something.. Chumma ellarum onnu solringale.. Naanum my idea va solren!!

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 02:27 PM

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 02:33 PM

murlee.... good suggestion. :)

all we want that gvt to be useful one and should not be abadoned.

gnams

May 15th, 2011, 03:28 PM

gnams,

on lighter vein, you visit tamilnadu threads? i thought you visit only Chennai threads. pls take it as joke sir.:)

get cool,

when you have every right to support the new TNLA, i have every right to support the new gvt decision on shifting it to st.george fort or Trichy or Kannyakumari.

If you say my suggestion in converting the new TNLA as Tamil development center as utter non-sense then i have to say your support on new TNLA is utter non-sense....

please down your tone, otherwise even i want to write like you.

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Turn back the pages, even i want the present gvt to stay in the new building, now that is not the case! as old fort is getting ready and going to back as power house..... for next 5yrs and rama or ravana is not going to come to stop it. You or me cannot stop it.

Instead of crying like others here, i want that building to be useful.... so suggested that for purpose of Tamil.

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As RajBang mentioned, what bothers for a middle class family in theni about this new water tank, what bothers for a upper class family in nellai about this water tank, what bothers for a poor family in chennai slums about this water tank?? then don't care whether it operates from new water tank or old fort... then didn't vote for this gvt thinking about water tank or old fort...

u misunderstood the points... though my tone was bit aggressive, it is not directed to u.. instead it was the idea of supporting a govt secretariat to be at a ASI's premises, which i said us utter non-sense....if u got hurted/disturbed because of that term , i am sorry abt that...

but believe me , it is the term used by those in ASI....
and noone will give their own home/house for the rental person to take it for permanantly just coz the rented person is a powerful person..

pls dont try to garner some support by trying to bring the poor people here by saying that whatever the buliding it is , in what way they are affected?
actually the truth is it is not building, whatever the govt itself is, they dont care and not affected because of that.. .their life just goes on as usual..

am talking in the view of ASI persons who are getting most irritated from this decision..

and of course as a true citizen i too have a right to oppose this and be concerned abt this since corruption is big mistake, but not putting into use some govt built property for its specific use is bigger mistake than that..
that is what my point is...

a road is well laid in my area.. just coz the govt/some instituition finds more corruption is involved in laying the road and if the road is not put into use or closed, that is the greatest mistake anybody is doing than corruption..
because this is democracy...first understand that...
same is happpening here in the form of new TNLA assembly..

it is not how u or someone view that TNLA assembly... it is not anyone's personal opinion which is going to affect the assembly building..

the public is viewing..it shud be their decision as they own the building simply because they elect the govt...

are u going to say just coz' marina beach road is laid by british and relaid once in DMK govt period (atleast assume) , amma is going to take a circuitous route to reach Fort (she will even do it by water) and supporting that decision is not foolish?

common, dont talk like u dont understand.. it is that u understand, but not willng to accept..

(and again reg. the tone, as i told it was for the idea and if u want to raise ur tone, pls go ahead... am ready. j/k :lol: )

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 03:33 PM

அந்த நேரத்தில் சென்னை மேயராக சைதை துரைசாமியை கொண்டு வந்தால், சென்னைக்கு பெரும் லாபம் என்பதை விட கட்சிக்கு வரப்பிரசாதமாக இருப்பார்.

This would be good for Chennai City.

Ya saidai duraisamy is a very good person. he is a decent politician. ADMK should not waste him.he is an able administrator. he is running a IAS-IPS coaching centre. even in the results of union public service commission announced last week, a candidate from his centre came 3rd rank all over india. i was expecting that he will win and become higher education minister.

he gives IAS coaching free of cost. his centre doesnot take any donations from anyone for his training centre. he himself manages the training centre from his own earning.

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 03:59 PM

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 04:39 PM

It is official now!

New TNLA will be library for Semozhi Tamil

and Chennai Corporation may be shifted to this TNLA.

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 04:45 PM

Lot of news faces in the ministry!

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சென்னை: ஜெயலலிதா தலைமையிலான புதிய அமைச்சரவை நாளை பதவி ஏற்க இருக்கிறது. இந்த பட்டியலை ஜெயலலிதா வெளியிட்டார். இதில்
ஓ.பன்னீர் செல்வத்திற்கு நிதி;
செங்கோட்டையனுக்கு விவசா*யம்;
நத்தம் விஸ்வநாதனுக்கு மின்சாரம்;
சண்முகத்திற்கு பள்ளி கல்வி;
செல்லூர் ராஜுவுக்கு கூட்டுறவு;
கோகுல இந்திராவுக்கு வணிகவரி;
கருப்பசாமிக்கு கால்நடை;
சண்முகநாதனுக்கு அறநிலையத்துறை;
முனுசாமிக்கு உள்ளாட்சி;
பழனியப்பனுக்கு உயர்கல்வி;
வேலுமணிக்கு சிறப்புத் திட்ட செயலாக்கம்;
சண்முக வேலுவுக்கு தொழி்ல்;
சம்பத்திற்கு ஊரகத்துறை;
வைத்யலிங்கத்திற்கு வீட்டு வசதி;
உதயகுமாருக்கு தகவல் தொழில்நுட்பம்;
தங்கமணிக்கு விவசாயம்;
பச்சைமாலுக்கு வனத்துறை;
மரியம் பிச்சைக்கு சுற்றுச்சூழல்;
எடப்பாடி பழனிசாமிக்கு நெடுஞ்சாலைத்துறை;
சின்னையாவுக்கு பிற்படுத்தப்பட்டோர் நலன்;
ஜெயபாலுக்கு மீன்வளத்துறை;
புத்தி சந்திரனுக்கு சுற்றுலாத்துறை;
செல்லபாண்டியனுக்கு தொழிலாளர் நலன்;
அக்ரி கிருஷணமூர்த்திக்கு உணவு;
வி.எஸ்.விஜய்க்கு மக்கள் நல வாழ்வு;
தங்கமணிக்கு வருவாய்ததுறை;
ராமலிங்கத்திற்கு பொதுப்பணித்துறை;
செந்தமிழனுக்கு செய்தி மற்றும் மக்கள் தொடர்பு;
ரமணாவுக்கு கைத்தறி;
ராமஜெயத்திற்கு சமூக நலன்;
சுப்பையாவுக்கு சட்டம்;
செந்தில் பாலாஜிக்கு போக்குவரத்து இலாகாக்கள் வழங்கப்பட்டுள்ளன

skumaran

May 15th, 2011, 04:56 PM

Friends, everybody is seeing who will become the next finance minister of TN. because he will be having lot of responsibilities. i thought jaya will give seat for C Ponnaiyan and after he wins will make him finance minister. but he was denied a ticket. anybody know why he was denied party ticket this time???? and who will become become finance minister.

TN newly appointed cabinet list has been released. According to that,

Mr. O.PannerSelvam Finace Minister
Mr. Natham Visvanathan Electricity
Mr. Senthil Balaji - Transport from Karur
Mr. Senkottaiyan - Agri
Mr. C.V.Shanmugam - Education Minister for Schools
Mr. Edapadi Palanisamy - Highways and so on ....

total of 34 including CM.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 05:08 PM

Lots of new faces.

Wasn't Natham Vishwanathan the Transport minister last time?

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 05:14 PM

Azhagiri's adiyaal / allakai pottu suresh arrested (http://www.savukku.net/component/content/article/823-2011-05-15-10-10-10.html) at Madurai

And in an unrelated news Sonia invites (http://www.savukku.net/component/content/article/8-news/822-2011-05-15-04-38-08.html) Jaya for a tea party

krishnaswamy

May 15th, 2011, 05:18 PM

சென்னை: ஜெயலலிதா தலைமையிலான புதிய அமைச்சரவை நாளை பதவி ஏற்க இருக்கிறது. இந்த பட்டியலை ஜெயலலிதா வெளியிட்டார். இதில் ஓ.பன்னீர் செல்வத்திற்கு நிதி; செங்கோட்டையனுக்கு விவசா*யம்; நத்தம் விஸ்வநாதனுக்கு மின்சாரம்; சண்முகத்திற்கு பள்ளி கல்வி; செல்லூர் ராஜுவுக்கு கூட்டுறவு; கோகுல இந்திராவுக்கு வணிகவரி; கருப்பசாமிக்கு கால்நடை; சண்முகநாதனுக்கு அறநிலையத்துறை; முனுசாமிக்கு உள்ளாட்சி; பழனியப்பனுக்கு உயர்கல்வி; வேலுமணிக்கு சிறப்புத் திட்ட செயலாக்கம்; சண்முக வேலுவுக்கு தொழி்ல்; சம்பத்திற்கு ஊரகத்துறை; வைத்யலிங்கத்திற்கு வீட்டு வசதி; உதயகுமாருக்கு தகவல் தொழில்நுட்பம்; தங்கமணிக்கு விவசாயம்; பச்சைமாலுக்கு வனத்துறை; மரியம் பிச்சைக்கு சுற்றுச்சூழல்; எடப்பாடி பழனிசாமிக்கு நெடுஞ்சாலைத்துறை; சின்னையாவுக்கு பிற்படுத்தப்பட்டோர் நலன்; ஜெயபாலுக்கு மீன்வளத்துறை; புத்தி சந்திரனுக்கு சுற்றுலாத்துறை; செல்லபாண்டியனுக்கு தொழிலாளர் நலன்; அக்ரி கிருஷணமூர்த்திக்கு உணவு; வி.எஸ்.விஜய்க்கு மக்கள் நல வாழ்வு; தங்கமணிக்கு வருவாய்ததுறை; ராமலிங்கத்திற்கு பொதுப்பணித்துறை; செந்தமிழனுக்கு செய்தி மற்றும் மக்கள் தொடர்பு; ரமணாவுக்கு கைத்தறி; ராமஜெயத்திற்கு சமூக நலன்; சுப்பையாவுக்கு சட்டம்; செந்தில் பாலாஜிக்கு போக்குவரத்து இலாகாக்கள் வழங்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.

No Nayinar?
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=241015

krishnaswamy

May 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM

surprising is
no Jayakumar,Nayinar, Vetrivel,vijayalakshmi palanisamy, pollachi Jayaraman?
Senthil Balaji for Transport?உதயகுமாருக்கு தகவல் தொழில்நுட்பம்?

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 05:25 PM

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 05:31 PM

is it? can u pls quote the source arul.. :)

Makkal thoolaikatchi......

wlbkng

May 15th, 2011, 05:32 PM

It is official now!

New TNLA will be library for Semozhi Tamil

and Chennai Corporation may be shifted to this TNLA.

is it? can u pls quote the source arul.. :)

rajii

May 15th, 2011, 05:45 PM

who is deputy c.m? lolz

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 05:46 PM

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/05/15/Article//002/15_05_2011_002_003.jpg

This is totally atrocious. the election commission should investigate this matter and order recounting or re polling in kolattur constituency.

This is atrocious. They should order a recount.

Since it's video taped isn't easy to playback on the # written before and after using the tapes before ordering for recount?

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 05:52 PM

skumaran

May 15th, 2011, 05:53 PM

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 05:59 PM

Since everyone offered a suggestion on LA, my suggestion is to get all state government offices around Chennai including the flagship Government run TASMAC and dump it in that building. That way if you ever want to arrest state government employees just roundup the police on that building alone (kind of house arrest)

Here are my thoughts on aatha moving back to Fort St. George.

Like Raji who mentioned on the legislative assembly thread, I wish Jaya moved into the new building with a sarcastic "Thank you for building this to bribe me to let you off the hook on your scams. But sorry law will take its own course " remark to Karunanidhi. That would have been an effective nosecut for him. Bottomline is she could have compromised on her stand which would have got new-found respect among average joe.

Having said that, my opposition for the "thanni thotti" as such stands without any change. In a democracy when you move an administrative center or build a administrative city one should have to take the opposition into confidence. Karunanidhi decided on his own. That's arrogant too. If you call Jaya arrogant and egoish for deciding to move to fort st. george, karunanidhi is equally arrogant for unilaterally deciding to build that building. It's not monarchy to run one man show when it comes to such decisions. And 100% positive that mummy will repeat the same mistake when it comes to building an administrative city within Chennai :)

Subra

May 15th, 2011, 06:03 PM

royapuram mla jayakumar left out, nainar nagendran also left out. both were good ministers between 2001-2006.

How are the new Industry and IT ministers? Any background details ?

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 06:06 PM

murlee

May 15th, 2011, 06:13 PM

skumaran

May 15th, 2011, 06:17 PM

Out of 34 ministers Cuddalore and Erode districts got two ministers each.

Erode
1. Mr. K.A.Senkottaiyan - Agricultural, from Gobi
2.Mr. K.P.Ramalingam - PWD, from Erode West

Cuddalore
1. Mr. M.C.Sampath - Rural Industries, from Cuddalore
2. Selvi Ramajayam from Bhuvanagiri

vs007

May 15th, 2011, 06:26 PM

Azhagiri's adiyaal / allakai pottu suresh arrested (http://www.savukku.net/component/content/article/823-2011-05-15-10-10-10.html) at Madurai
Thats good news!!! Hope alagiri also sees jail forever.

Some decisions like this aatha only can take for reasons known only to her :)
Or maybe her astrologer, or one of her other personalities. :)

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We all know the shifting of green assembly has nothing to do with its architecture, she should have rather inaugurated the building after its 100% completion and installed MGR's statue there or renamed it after Him(sic). :)
Is the kannagi statue still there?

Vicvin86

May 15th, 2011, 06:35 PM

What abt the ASI angle that Mr. gnams brought in???

Only two buildings inside Fort St George house TN government offices. 80% is under Army.

http://maps.google.co.in/maps?q=fort+st+george&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=fort+st+george&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=13.079844,80.287442&spn=0.004044,0.006019&t=h&z=17

wlbkng

May 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM

If thatha had handed over Fort st.george to ASI with CG's help instead of making it library, then JJ would have gone into more trouble before reverting back. Paavam yaarum thatha ku sollala pola :lol:

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 06:43 PM

Attack on house of S.Ve. Shekher

http://www.hindu.com/2011/05/15/stories/2011051563220400.htm
S.Ve.Sekhar started off as a matured politician but soon became one like Vadivelu. :bash: He should have remained in Amma's gang.

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 06:47 PM

CI wrote: The land prices in areas like Pallavaram and Tambaram are much higher than the ones in some localities in Salem/Kovai/Madurai which have underground sewer system. However, Pallavaram and Tambaram don't have them yet.

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This is wrong fact, there is no UGD in Salem and Coimbatore. The UGD project for these started just 2yrs ago and planned 10years ago and with take another 25years to complete.

Land price is very high in every downtown and posh areas of the cities... FYKI land is being sold at the cost of 10K per Sqft in commericial areas i.e down town of Salem/Coimbatore/Madurai or Trichy.....

The only difference is in Chennai, land trading will be in acres even in down town, but in other tier II cities it will be in sqft size.
Are you saying that there is no UGD at all in Trichy/CBE/SLM/MAD?

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 06:48 PM

my dear friend, middle class people are having 2 wheelers. this is surely going to affect them. that too 5 RS is a steep increase. and diesel is going to be increased by 4 RS.

do you know prices of almost all commodities in this world depends . on few products like petrol, diesel. so if the prices of petrol, diesel are increased , naturally all the other commodity prices like vegetables, meat, rice etc will go up which will affect the living of poor people. please dont ask again whether poor people in TN have vegetable , rice to eat.

the whole economy depends on crude oil dude. you must have understood by now.
Pora poka paatha, all these prices will be lower in the US as compared to India. :D

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 06:50 PM

Are you saying that there is no UGD at all in Trichy/CBE/SLM/MAD?

Are u not reading my posts? :lol: Even on yesterday's response I said they are just digging and completed the work only in few areas :)

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM

Pora poka paatha, all these prices will be lower in the US as compared to India. :D

Gas price always used to be lower in US compared to India. Even now with gas @ $4.29 / gal it's still cheap compared to Rs 69 / liter (1 gal = 3.85 liters)

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM

Are u not reading my posts? :lol: Even on yesterday's response I said they are just digging and completed the work only in few areas :)
Digging sareenga...aana ippo thaan mudhal digging-a? In that case, you should note that most of Chennai's sewer system was developed by the British and there were little additions to that network later on.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 06:56 PM

Digging sareenga...aana ippo thaan mudhal digging-a? In that case, you should note that most of Chennai's sewer system was developed by the British and there were little additions to that network later on.

For most part yes. Indha forum-la vandhadulendhu naan sakadaiya thanaya ketten, MNC ya ketten?

Vidiya vidiya election result parthuputtu, adutha 5 varushathukku kalingaru than CM-nu sollura madiri kekkureenga :lol:

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:03 PM

Vadivelu's first statement (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2011/05/15-vadivelu-condemns-dmdk-vijayakanth-threat-aid0091.html) after results :lol:

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:07 PM

For most part yes. Indha forum-la vandhadulendhu naan sakadaiya thanaya ketten, MNC ya ketten?

Vidiya vidiya election result parthuputtu, adutha 5 varushathukku kalingaru than CM-nu sollura madiri kekkureenga :lol:
Ayya, neenga ketta sakadai, unga oorla mattum illa, enga oorla kooda thaan varala. So, enga ooruku ellam senjutu ungaluku edhuvumae seiyalaenu solla koodadhu. :D

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:09 PM

Vadivelu's first statement (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2011/05/15-vadivelu-condemns-dmdk-vijayakanth-threat-aid0091.html) after results :lol:
Vadivelu is shouting "Kolraanga, kolraanga" :D

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:12 PM

Ayya, neenga ketta sakadai, unga oorla mattum illa, enga oorla kooda thaan varala. So, enga ooruku ellam senjutu ungaluku edhuvumae seiyalaenu solla koodadhu. :D

ayya unga oorla guindy varaikum saakadai naanu veralu soopuna kalathulayae vandhirichi yaa. Enga oorula city kullayae ippa than ya nonduranga. Madraskkum CBE-kumae ivvalavu varusham difference-na, think about other towns and villages.

neena nalikku mel-maruvathur varaikkum chennai-nu serthukittu 10 varusham kalichi anga varalai so ungalukkum varalainu ellam argue seyya koodathu :)

Anyway bottom line is we need it everywhere and that should be priorotized

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 07:14 PM

^^ Nope, around 80% are fresh blood. Got to wait and see how they perform.

Still hard to digest that Nainar Nagendran is not in cabinet. Some decisions like this aatha only can take for reasons known only to her :) Hope he makes it in the reshuffle.

Ya that's correct. jayas cabinet is not stable like MK's. only jaya remains permanent. she used to reshuffle often according to the requirement. so people left out now like naignar nagendran, jayakumar will find place next time. may be in another 3-6 months.

murlee

May 15th, 2011, 07:15 PM

Andha sakkadai vella karan pottadu sir! Amma vo thatha vo onnum pannala!!

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:16 PM

ayya unga oorla guindy varaikum saakadai naanu veralu soopuna kalathulayae vandhirichi yaa. Enga oorula city kullayae ippa than ya nonduranga. Madraskkum CBE-kumae ivvalavu varusham difference-na, think about other towns and villages.

neena nalikku mel-maruvathur varaikkum chennai-nu serthukittu 10 varusham kalichi anga varalai so ungalukkum varalainu ellam argue seyya koodathu :)

Anyway bottom line is we need it everywhere and that should be priorotized
You don't seem to realize what I am saying. I am saying that such basic infrastructure was developed by the British and very little was done by the state Govts after Independence. Even Bombay has over a 100 year old UGD system.

The point is that the state Govts haven't done anything special to Chn that they didn't do for CBE. They have simply neglected both the places when it comes to basic infra like the UGD. So, you cannot say that they are having a Chennai-centric treatment.

murlee

May 15th, 2011, 07:16 PM

Ya that's correct. jayas cabinet is not stable like MK's. only jaya remains permanent. she used to reshuffle often according to the requirement. so people left out now like naignar nagendran, jayakumar will find place next time. may be in another 3-6 months.

But do these ministers really matter?? Anyways its gonna be a one woman show, right?? Its not like they r gonna have a big say in important matters....

vs007

May 15th, 2011, 07:20 PM

But do these ministers really matter?? Anyways its gonna be a one woman show, right?? Its not like they r gonna have a big say in important matters....

+1

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:21 PM

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ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:33 PM

Andha sakkadai vella karan pottadu sir! Amma vo thatha vo onnum pannala!!
Vadivelu-ku apparam neenga thaan kadi mannar! :D

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 07:35 PM

Jaya - CM - Srirangam _ Trichy

O. Paneerselvam - Finance - Bodi - Theni

Sengotaiyyan - Agri - Gobi - Erode

Nattam Vishwanathan - Electricity - Nattan - Dindigul

Shanmugam - School Education - Villupuram

Sellur Raju - Co-operative - Madurai south

Gokula Indira - Commercial tax - Anna Nagar - Chennai

Karrupusamy - Animal Husbandry - Sankarankovil - Nellai

Shanmuganathan - Hindu Aranilayathurai - Srivaikundam - Thoothukudi

Munusamy - Panchayat raj - Krishnagiri

P. Palaniappan - Higher education - Papireddipatti - Dharmapuri

S.P Velumani - Special planning and execution - Thondamuthur - CBE

Shanmugavel - Industry - Madathukulam - Coimbatore

Sampath - Rural dept - Cuddalore

Vaidhiyalingam - Housing development Orathanadu - Cuddalore

Udhayakumar - Sattur- IT dept - Virudhunagar

Thangamani - Income dept - Kumarapalayam - Namakkal

Pachaimal- Forest - Kanniyakumari

Mariyampichai - Environment - Trichy west

Palanisamy - State highways - Eddapadi -Salem

Chinaiha - Backward class - Tambaram - Chengai

Jayabal - Fishery - Nagai

Puthi chandram - Tourism - ???

Sellapandian - Workers welfare- Arrakonam- Thiruvallur

Agri Krishnamoorthy - Food - Kalasapakkam - Thiruvanamalai

V.S Vijay - People welfare - Vellore

Ramalingam - PWD - Erode

Senthamizan - Public relation - Saidapet - Chennai

Ramana - Handloom and textile - Thiruvallur

Selvi - Social welfare - Bhavanagiri-Cuddalore

Subaya - Law - Ambai - Nellai

Senthil Balaji - Transport - Karur

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:38 PM

Andha sakkadai vella karan pottadu sir! Amma vo thatha vo onnum pannala!!

What's ur point? You both are getting defensive now trying to justify the lack of it on other places.

My point is to highlight the gap between Chennai and other places. Some differences existed from the British and lot continued after them.

So whatever britishes did for Chennai (building infrastructure) our folks are doing it there again. That's why I called Chennai centric. Had MGR moved the capital to Trichy as per his plan, Trichy would have got it. It would have become capital-centric. We should move away from it is what I am saying

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 07:40 PM

Kongunattar matrum pandiyanattar kavanathiruku....

Ministers are equally distributed.......

Here after stop complaining on Chennai... poyi ellam velaiya parunga illa unga ministerai parungo.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:42 PM

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:44 PM

What's ur point? You both are getting defensive now trying to justify the lack of it on other places.

My point is to highlight the gap between Chennai and other places. Some differences existed from the British and lot continued after them.

So whatever britishes did for Chennai (building infrastructure) our folks are doing it there again. That's why I called Chennai centric. Had MGR moved the capital to Trichy as per his plan, Trichy would have got it. It would have become capital-centric. We should move away from it is what I am saying
I disagree. The British developed Chennai and CBE and gave these places whatever basic infra was needed at that time. Then, the SGs distributed the infra facilities. The difference that existed from British times still exist.

By the way, your dream of getting a capital city for TN other than Chennai will still remain a dream :D

bajk

May 15th, 2011, 07:46 PM

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:49 PM

Kongunattar matrum pandiyanattar kavanathiruku....

Ministers are equally distributed.......

Here after stop complaining on Chennai... poyi ellam velaiya parunga illa unga ministerai parungo.

Neengalum purnjikalai sir. The point is not distributing ministry. Most of CM's and ministers of TN were not from Chennai prior to the current government either.

There is a difference between Chennai centric government vs ministers from Chennai. Anyways I hope they consider they bring all-round development. Even if they implement 50-75% of their manifesto and don't do anything on the freebie promise I'll be happy. Not just me i am sure majority of the people in our state will be happy. We didn't vote for oc items this time.

Arul Murugan

May 15th, 2011, 07:51 PM

KT no idea....

I disagree. The British developed Chennai and CBE and gave these places whatever basic infra was needed at that time. Then, the SGs distributed the infra facilities. The difference that existed from British times still exist.

By the way, your dream of getting a capital city for TN other than Chennai will still remain a dream :D

During British rule, CBE was not in britishers radar. It was Trichy, Erode and Salem next to Chennai.

Establishment of district, infrastructure, governing body was very fast in these places than Coimbatore.

If i am correct Coimbatore population was lesser than Tirunelveli, Salem, Trichy in 1920's

As we all know GD Naidu laid the foundation for Coimbatore's growth and not britishers.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Then, the SGs distributed the infra facilities. The difference that existed from British times still exist.

I disagree here too. Let that even distribution by our SG remain as your dream.

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:52 PM

Neengalum purnjikalai sir. The point is not distributing ministry. Most of CM's and ministers of TN were not from Chennai prior to the current government either.

There is a difference between Chennai centric government vs ministers from Chennai. Anyways I hope they consider they bring all-round development. Even if they implement 50-75% of their manifesto and don't do anything on the freebie promise I'll be happy. Not just me i am sure majority of the people in our state will be happy. We didn't vote for oc items this time.
Ayya, now lets forget all these...think about the economic situation...here is an example...

Every city is developed only when pple are willing to invest. Why did TVS have their main offices and factories in CHN when they were originally from MAD?

Cities are made by people by predominantly come from villages. After becoming successful, why are the guys who originally come from outside a city not going back and doing something for their places?

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:53 PM

KT no idea....

During British rule, CBE was not in britishers radar. It was Trichy, Erode and Salem next to Chennai.

Establishment of district, infrastructure, governing body was very fast in these places than Coimbatore.

If i am correct Coimbatore population was lesser than Tirunelveli, Salem, Trichy in 1920's

As we all know GD Naidu laid the foundation for Coimbatore's growth and not britishers.

Correct!! Coimbatore's success story has very little to do with SG. It is what it is because of its citizens.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 07:55 PM

Ayya, now lets forget all these...think about the economic situation...here is an example...

Every city is developed only when pple are willing to invest. Why did TVS have their main offices and factories in CHN when they were originally from MAD?

Cities are made by people by predominantly come from villages. After becoming successful, why are they guys who originally come from outside a city not go back and do something for their places?

Do you know how many local investors moved to chennai? Like TVS lots of industries moved to Chennai (Including kollywood which was based in CBE / Salem earlier). Ever pondered why? I can go on with list explain each and every thing.

But you have to be open-minded as well in a discussion and don't treat whatever I have to say as anti-chennai. You are getting defensive and emotional when I say non-chennai centric. You don't have to. I am not blaming Chennai the city or it's people. I see no reason why you have to be defensive here. Chennai is as much mine as CBE is yours. I can't stress enough again on that

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM

Correct!! Coimbatore's success story has very little to do with SG. It is what it is because of its citizens.
Adhae pol thaan ella peru nagarangalum. All big cities have an economy of their own and a market for selling goods/services. So, they are self-sustainable for the most part. They need help from the Govt when they want change course and bring in new goods/services and quality-of-life to its citizens.

bajk

May 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM

List of Tamil Nadu ministers and portfolios.

(1) J.Jayalalithaa — Chief Minister, Public,Indian Administrative Service, Indian Police Service, Indian Forest Service, General Administration, District Revenue Officers, Prevention of Corruption, Police, Home

(2) O.Panneerselvam — Finance

(3) K.A.Sengottaiyan — Agriculture

(4) Natham R.Viswanathan — Electricity, Prohibition and Excise

(5) K.P.Munisamy — Municipal Administration, Rural Development

(6) C.Shanmugavelu — Industries

(7) R.Vaithilingam — Housing and Urban Development

(8) S.S.Krishnamoorthy — Food

(9) C.Karuppasamy — Animal Husbandary

(10) P.Palaniappan — Higher Education

(11) C.Ve.Shanmugam — School Education

(12) Sellur K.Raju — Cooperation

(13) K.T.Pachamal — Forests

(14) Edappadi K.Palanisamy — Highways and Minor Ports

(15) S.P.Shanmuganathan — HR & CE

(16) K.V.Ramalingam — Public Works

(17) S.P.Velumani — Special Programme Implementation

(18) T.K.M.Chinnayya — Backward Classes

(19) M.C.Sampath — Rural Industries

(20) P.Thangamani — Revenue

(21) G.Senthamizhan — Information

(22) S.Gokula Indira — Commerical Taxes and Registration

(23) Selvi Ramajayam — Social Welfare

(24) B.V.Ramanaa — Handlooms and Textiles

(25) R.B.Udhayakumar — Information and Technology

(26) N.Subramanian — Adi Dravidar and Tribal Welfare

(27) V.Senthil Balaji — Transport

(28) N.Mariyam Pichai — Environment

(29) K.A.Jayapal — Fisheries

(30) E.Subaya — Law, Courts and Prisons

(31) Budhichandhiran — Tourism

(32) S.T.Chellapandian — Labour

(33) Dr.V.S.Vijay — Health

(34) N.R.Sivapathi — Sports and Youth Welfare

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2021515.ece?homepage=true

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 07:58 PM

Do you know how many local investors moved to chennai? Like TVS lots of industries moved to Chennai (Including kollywood which was based in CBE / Salem earlier). Ever pondered why? I can go on with list explain each and every thing.

But you have to be open-minded as well in a discussion and don't treat whatever I have to say as anti-chennai. You are getting defensive and emotional when I say non-chennai centric. You don't have to. I am not blaming Chennai the city or it's people. I see no reason why you have to be defensive here. Chennai is as much mine as CBE is yours. I can't stress enough again on that
At a very high level, investors will go to places where they see more money. They will move from CBE to CHN for more money. If they are satisfied with it, they will stick there else they will move to Mumbai. If they are still not satisfied they will move out of the country.

So, the bottomline is people have moved from elsewhere in TN to Chennai only to make big money or to get bigger attention or reach to their markets...be it cinema or whatever. Now, if Salem does not have that big market like Chennai, what can anyone do?

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 08:02 PM

KT no idea....

During British rule, CBE was not in britishers radar. It was Trichy, Erode and Salem next to Chennai....

Why did the British see lesser value in CBE than CHN? Why did they see more value in BOM when compared to CHN? Its all for a reason and the citizens of those places are also responsible.

This is why I have not seen anyone comparing CHN with Mumbai. We know the limitations and accept the truth. However, you guys are comparing CBE with CHN without realizing the truth. This is the sad part! :ohno: Note that I am not bringing in BLR here because the sizes of these two cities are relatively the same. However, the diff between CHN and BOM is very huge. Similarly, the diff between CBE and CHN is very huge. Accept it before making comparisons!

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 08:14 PM

At a very high level, investors will go to places where they see more money. They will move from CBE to CHN for more money. If they are satisfied with it, they will stick there else they will move to Mumbai. If they are still not satisfied they will move out of the country.

So, the bottomline is people have moved from elsewhere in TN to Chennai only to make big money or to get bigger attention or reach to their markets...be it cinema or whatever. Now, if Salem does not have that big market like Chennai, what can anyone do?

You are wrong again. It's your assumption that the industry moved to chennai for money.

Let me answer your next post here too. You are trying to mix up things while arguing. Sometimes you argue by population and justify chennai centric allocations, when I reply back on that line you get defensive there citing UP has large population so should we pour more money there.

Then you bring in entrepreneurial skills of the city, when I reply that alone will not suffice and I am trying to show you the reason why people flock to chennai you still don't agree.

You are jumping around in arguments instead of focusing on one point that you yourself raise here. If we do it we will be going around in circles.

wlbkng

May 15th, 2011, 08:15 PM

For most part yes. Indha forum-la vandhadulendhu naan sakadaiya thanaya ketten, MNC ya ketten?

Vidiya vidiya election result parthuputtu, adutha 5 varushathukku kalingaru than CM-nu sollura madiri kekkureenga :lol:

ada pongayya.. enga oorla dmk & admk serndhu cooum, adyar nu rendu river ah ye sakadaya mathirukanga.. adhanaladhan engalukku sila nerathula sakadai prachanai ellam illai.. idhai thaan, indha adipadai vasadhiyaithaan naangalum kekarom.. adhai thaan neengalum kekareenga.. naanga kettu engalaukku kedaicha chennai centric development, neenga ketta mattum adhu needhiya?

andha nelamai unga siruvanikko illa kaverikko illa vaigaiko vara venam. :lol:

vellaikaaran vittutu pona podhu dhan singaara chennai.. ipo ellarum pathu sirikira chennaiya marikitu varudhu.. papom ennadhan nadakudhunu

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 08:19 PM

You are wrong again. It's your assumption that the industry moved to chennai for money.

Let me answer your next post here too. You are trying to mix up things while arguing. Sometimes you argue by population and justify chennai centric allocations, when I reply back on that line you get defensive there citing UP has large population so should we pour more money there.

Then you bring in entrepreneurial skills of the city, when I reply that alone will not suffice and I am trying to show you the reason why people flock to chennai you still don't agree.

You are jumping around in arguments instead of focusing on one point that you yourself raise here. If we do it we will be going around in circles.
I don't think so. I want to conclude by saying these...

1. CHN's size, population and market opportunities are waaaaaaaaay ahead of any other city in TN. This trend existed from British times and continues till day...will continue for a long time to come. So, there is no point in comparing CHN with other TN cities in terms of economy.

2. CHN had an inherent advantage of a jumpstart because of the British. The SGs after independence continued to distribute infra facilities however the initial lead always stayed. This is true for any city of the world. NYC is still greater than St.Louis. Even if the Govt offers everything for free, no one will leave NYC. Its the same here!

3. TN is one of the few states in India where there is distributed growth and economic spread in a state.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 08:24 PM

ada pongayya.. enga oorla dmk & admk serndhu cooum, adyar nu rendu river ah ye sakadaya mathirukanga.. adhanaladhan engalukku sila nerathula sakadai prachanai ellam illai.. idhai thaan, indha adipadai vasadhiyaithaan naangalum kekarom.. adhai thaan neengalum kekareenga.. naanga kettu engalaukku kedaicha chennai centric development, neenga ketta mattum adhu needhiya?

andha nelamai unga siruvanikko illa kaverikko illa vaigaiko vara venam. :lol:

vellaikaaran vittutu pona podhu dhan singaara chennai.. ipo ellarum pathu sirikira chennaiya marikitu varudhu.. papom ennadhan nadakudhunu

The difference pala varushama coouvatha seri seyyuranenu sollikittu pala kodigala namma kedinga coouvathula kottirukanga.

Engalukku innum kodingala andha kedingo kotta arambikkalai

Bottomline is kodingala kottiyum neenga crippled-a than irukeenga. Ippa purinjitha naan enna solla varennu?

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 08:26 PM

The difference pala varushama coouvatha seri seyyuranenu sollikittu pala kodigala namma kedinga coouvathula kottirukanga.

Engalukku innum kodingala andha kedingo kotta arambikkalai

Bottomline is kodingala kottiyum neenga crippled-a than irukeenga. Ippa purinjitha naan enna solla varennu?
Kodingala kottiyum, India-vae crippled-a thaan pa iruku. Ennamo naanga mattum apadi irukarama maadhiri pesareenga.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 08:29 PM

I don't think so. I want to conclude by saying these...

1. CHN's size, population and market opportunities are waaaaaaaaay ahead of any other city in TN. This trend existed from British times and continues till day...will continue for a long time to come. So, there is no point in comparing CHN with other TN cities in terms of economy.

2. CHN had an inherent advantage of a jumpstart because of the British. The SGs after independence continued to distribute infra facilities however the initial lead always stayed. This is true for any city of the world. NYC is still greater than St.Louis. Even if the Govt offers everything for free, no one will leave NYC. Its the same here!

3. TN is one of the few states in India where there is distributed growth and economic spread in a state.

I have to both and disagree to this post. Kudumba kadamai azhaipadhal, will take a break and we can discuss it later today or tomorrow.

Looks like you don't even want to agree that Chennai is given special treatment while the reality is the other way round.

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 08:31 PM

I have to both and disagree to this post. Kudumba kadamai azhaipadhal, will take a break and we can discuss it later today or tomorrow.

Looks like you don't even want to agree that Chennai is given special treatment while the reality is the other way round.
Nanbarae, I have concluded with my remarks. I have said whatever I can from my point of view. Neenga enna venaalum sollunga...en kitta vera bathil varadhu! Neenga maanik baasha maadhiri antony kitta kettalum, en kitta vera bathil varadhu! :lol:

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 08:32 PM

Kodingala kottiyum, India-vae crippled-a thaan pa iruku. Ennamo naanga mattum apadi irukarama maadhiri pesareenga.

Finally woke up!! Adhayae than raasa naan solluren.

All our metros are metro wannabees are crippled nu than sollikittu irukken. Just like rest of TN lags behind chennai by few years, you lag behind my thoughts. Just kidding :) Idhe than naanu oru varusham munale irundhe solluren

Enna you lag behind my thoughts by a year, TN lags behind chennai by decades avvalavu than :)

Hey don't take this personal, just pulling your leg...

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 08:41 PM

Finally woke up!! Adhayae than raasa naan solluren.

All our metros are metro wannabees are crippled nu than sollikittu irukken. Just like rest of TN lags behind chennai by few years, you lag behind my thoughts. Just kidding :) Idhe than naanu oru varusham munale irundhe solluren

Enna you lag behind my thoughts by a year, TN lags behind chennai by decades avvalavu than :)

Hey don't take this personal, just pulling your leg...
Kodigala kottina CBE will become Mumbai? Be realistic! :D

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 08:51 PM

Why not? If a comment like this were to be uttered in chennai forum imagine how the reaction would've been:)

wlbkng

May 15th, 2011, 09:23 PM

The difference pala varushama coouvatha seri seyyuranenu sollikittu pala kodigala namma kedinga coouvathula kottirukanga.

Engalukku innum kodingala andha kedingo kotta arambikkalai

Ungallukkachum siruthuli pondra poruppana amaipugal ellam serndhu kovai managarathin neer nilaigalai ellam punaramaikkudhu.. engalukku indha arasangatha vitta vera yaaru irukka. :lol:

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 09:32 PM

Why not? If a comment like this were to be uttered in chennai forum imagine how the reaction would've been:)
This means you haven't read my posts or observed the actual fights in Chennai thread. Never has anyone compared CHN with MUM. So, this thing has never risen.

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 09:33 PM

Ungallukkachum siruthuli pondra poruppana amaipugal ellam serndhu kovai managarathin neer nilaigalai ellam punaramaikkudhu.. engalukku indha arasangatha vitta vera yaaru irukka. :lol:
Vidunga pa. KT's favorite Amma aatchi has come. Let's see what happens. His favorite aatchi came twice in the past 20 years. We saw what happened :lol:. At least this time, lets expect something different instead of cribbing here.

RajBang

May 15th, 2011, 09:37 PM

these are the people who are not included in the new cabinet.

புதிய அமைச்சரவை பட்டியலில், 24 பேர் புதிய முகங்களாக இடம் பெற்றுள்ளனர். கடந்த 2001-06ம் ஆண்டு வரையில் நடந்த அ.தி.மு.க., ஆட்சியில் இடம் பெற்ற அமைச்சர்கள் சிலர், தற்போதைய அமைச்சரவையில் இடம் பெற்றுள்ளனர்; சிலர் இடம் பெறவில்லை. ஜெயக்குமார், பொள்ளாச்சி ஜெயராமன், வளர்மதி, தனபால், விஜயலட்சுமி பழனிச்சாமி, நயினார்நாகேந்திரன், சோமசுந்தரம், கு.ப.கிருஷ்ணன், அன்பழகன் போன்றவர்கள் இடம்பெறவில்லை.

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 09:41 PM

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ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 09:43 PM

^^ Andha jimmikki dhavani pengal engapa ponaanga?? :ohno: Even village girls are changing nowadays. Its time to change the lyrics of most Tamizh songs and take out the words 'dhavani', 'jimmiki' etc.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 09:47 PM

This means you haven't read my posts or observed the actual fights in Chennai thread. Never has anyone compared CHN with MUM. So, this thing has never risen.

You still didn't understand the point behind my comment post.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 09:49 PM

^^ Andha jimmikki dhavani pengal engapa ponaanga?? :ohno: Even village girls are changing nowadays. Its time to change the lyrics of most Tamizh songs and take out the words 'dhavani', 'jimmiki' etc.

Dhavani is not comfortable attire for women, so it has to go :)

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 10:11 PM

Dhavani is not comfortable attire for women, so it has to go :)
En pa avangaluku edhu comfortable-nu neenga nenaichu paakareenga? Neenga thaan Namitha adimai aachae! :lol:

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 10:19 PM

Video on ToI homepage

R2IChennai

May 15th, 2011, 10:23 PM

TN forum has become anti Chennai
And please dont compare Chennai to Mumbai just because both are metros
or Coimbatore to Pune, Pune;'s population was 4 times more than Coimbatore and competing with Chennai.

I agree they should have some policy for Tier II and Tier III cities besides villages and panchayats.

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 10:24 PM

En pa avangaluku edhu comfortable-nu neenga nenaichu paakareenga? Neenga thaan Namitha adimai aachae! :lol:

Neeya naana gopinathu vera oru episopdela adha pathi theerpu kudutharu

kongutamizhan

May 15th, 2011, 10:25 PM

TN forum has become anti Chennai

Prove it please

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 10:30 PM

TN forum has become anti Chennai
...

Vidunga pa. Ellam aadi adangiduchu! :)

R2IChennai

May 15th, 2011, 10:31 PM

Prove it please

Just re- read last 10 pages or ask any non tn folks to read it ask them to vote
if its anti chennai yes or no.

bonoslack7

May 15th, 2011, 10:34 PM

The new Cabinet to be sworn in along with Jayalalithaa on Monday contains a few senior leaders, plenty of new faces and some notable omissions.

While Ms. Jayalalithaa will have control over Home, Police and General Administration, her colleague O. Panneerselvam has been entrusted with the challenging task of steering the State's finances.

Loyalist rewarded

Ms. Jayalalithaa's long-time loyalist and campaign manager K.A. Sengottaiyan has been given the important portfolio of Agriculture. Natham R. Viswanathan, the Electricity minister in her previous regime, will retain the same ministry.

The notable omissions are D. Jayakumar, Pollachi V. Jayaraman, B. Valarmathi and Nainar Nagendran. Nine members of the new Cabinet are former ministers.

As the AIADMK has won all the eight seats in Tirupur, the party's district secretary and Madathukulam MLA C. Shanmugavelu has been rewarded with the Industries portfolio.

C.Ve. Shanmugam will be the School Education Minister and P. Palaniappan has been made Higher Education Minister. V. Vaithilingam, the Forests Minister in the previous AIADMK government, has been allotted Housing and Urban Development.

K.V. Ramalingam gets the Public Works Department.

Dr. V.S. Vijay, an orthopaedic surgeon and Vellore MLA, is made the Health Minister.

V. Senthil Balaji, one of party's young faces, has been given charge of Transport, while Agri S.S. Krishnamoorthy will be at the helm of the Food Ministry.

Ministers from Chennai

Chennai gets three Ministers: G. Senthamizhan from Saidapet (Information); Anna Nagar MLA Gokula Indira (Commercial Taxes and Registration) and Tambaram MLA T.K.M. Chinnayya (Backward Classes). Selvi Ramajayam, set to be the new Social Welfare Minister, is the third woman in the Cabinet.

Udhagamandalam MLA Budhi Chandiran has been chosen for Tourism.

Following is the list of Tamil Nadu ministers and portfolios.

(1) J.Jayalalithaa — Chief Minister, Public,Indian Administrative Service, Indian Police Service, Indian Forest Service, General Administration, District Revenue Officers, Prevention of Corruption, Police, Home

(2) O.Panneerselvam — Finance

(3) K.A.Sengottaiyan — Agriculture

(4) Natham R.Viswanathan — Electricity, Prohibition and Excise

(5) K.P.Munisamy — Municipal Administration, Rural Development

(6) C.Shanmugavelu — Industries

(7) R.Vaithilingam — Housing and Urban Development

(8) S.S.Krishnamoorthy — Food

(9) C.Karuppasamy — Animal Husbandary

(10) P.Palaniappan — Higher Education

(11) C.Ve.Shanmugam — School Education

(12) Sellur K.Raju — Cooperation

(13) K.T.Pachamal — Forests

(14) Edappadi K.Palanisamy — Highways and Minor Ports

(15) S.P.Shanmuganathan — HR & CE

(16) K.V.Ramalingam — Public Works

(17) S.P.Velumani — Special Programme Implementation

(18) T.K.M.Chinnayya — Backward Classes

(19) M.C.Sampath — Rural Industries

(20) P.Thangamani — Revenue

(21) G.Senthamizhan — Information

(22) S.Gokula Indira — Commerical Taxes and Registration

(23) Selvi Ramajayam — Social Welfare

(24) B.V.Ramanaa — Handlooms and Textiles

(25) R.B.Udhayakumar — Information and Technology

(26) N.Subramanian — Adi Dravidar and Tribal Welfare

(27) V.Senthil Balaji — Transport

(28) N.Mariyam Pichai — Environment

(29) K.A.Jayapal — Fisheries

(30) E.Subaya — Law, Courts and Prisons

(31) Budhichandhiran — Tourism

(32) S.T.Chellapandian — Labour

(33) Dr.V.S.Vijay — Health

(34) N.R.Sivapathi — Sports and Youth Welfare

ChennaiIndian

May 15th, 2011, 10:38 PM

^^ Nothing for Bader Sayeed? What abt other party members?

bonoslack7

May 15th, 2011, 10:43 PM

http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article2018820.ece?homepage=true

Fascination for Bharatanatyam brings Jin Shan Shan aka Eesha frequently to Kalakshetra. She tells PRINCE FREDERICK how she set up a school dedicated to this dance form in Beijing

The Bharatanatyam dancer strikes the Nataraja pose. Slowly and elegantly, she switches to a mudra depicting a lotus bud. It's common to the dance form; except that she is Chinese.

Jin Shan Shan, better known as Eesha — a name bestowed on her by Kalakshetra director Leela Samson — is the face of Bharatanatyam in Beijing, where she runs Sangeetham, a school that teaches the South Indian classical dance.

While Eesha was at school, she was lured to the dance form by the Oriental Dance and Song Ensemble, through a special programme. It was “love at first step”, as Eesha was encouraged to try out a few movements and mudras.

Besides the growing fascination for Bharatanatyam, she began to develop a liking for Indian culture. “Because of my big eyes, friends and family would say I looked more Indian than Chinese.”

In 1994, she joined the Beijing University to learn Hindi and, soon, a cultural exchange programme between the Chinese Government and the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) brought her to Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU), New Delhi, where she was to learn Hindi. Chancing upon Rhythm In Joy: Classical Indian Dance Traditions by Leela Samson, she decided to learn Bharatanatyam from her.

For over a decade, Eesha has been regularly visiting India to brush up her skills under Leela's watchful eye. “A few days spent with Leela akka energises me for an entire year,” says Eesha, now in the city for the same reason.

Leela's guidance has been of inestimable help to Eesha in running Sangeetham. “My daughter Jessie was my first student. For a while, the class consisted of Jessie and her friends,” she remembers. “Today, Sangeetham has over 100 students on its rolls.”

Eesha has clearly come a long way — she is now planning a branch in Shanghai.

gvijayan

May 15th, 2011, 11:01 PM

^^ The security cameras were reported to be smacked during the violence.. So, they might have destroyed those videos. But not sure, and this can still help.

Mr.Nellai

May 15th, 2011, 11:32 PM

Surprised to see Nainar missing in the list. Well aatha is known for cabinet reshuffles, hope he gets it around during the next shuffle.

Any idea how efficient Vishwanathan is? I couldn't recollect (or track) his perfromance from last time. I believe he was the transport minister who got electricity now.

Nainar wasn't given any ministry initially, but after 2001 he was given transport ministry and after 2 or 3 years he has been allotted Electricity and Industries Ministry. Initially natham vishwanathan was holding that ministry, But JJ dropped 2 ministers viswanathan and durairaj during 2001

Source

http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/aug/29tn.htm

BTW, were had it been reported that Nainar wasn't given any ministry

Business standard reports the following

All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK) chief J Jayalalithaa is set to be sworn in as the new chief minister of Tamil Nadu on Monday. The new Cabinet will have 34 ministers.

Some of the key portfolios have been allocated to her trusted and senior AIADMK leaders including former chief minister O Panneerselvam (Finance), V Senthil Balaji (Transport), S Thellapndian (Labour), K A Senkottaiyan (Agriculture), Nainar Nagendran (Industry), C V Shanmugam (Education), and Gokula Indira.

Source

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-34-member-cabinet-to-be-sworn-in-today/435679/

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/3-chief-ministers-to-be-sworn-in-today/435702/

Mr.Nellai

May 15th, 2011, 11:50 PM

I have mentioned that electrification is going on. Not just that, even gauge conversion is going between say Tenkasi and Thirunelveli. The Nanguneri SEZ didn't start off even after sanctioning.

One small corretion. In Tenksai - tirunelveli, even BG conversion is not complete:). So i know it won't make sense to expect electrification in that line. But for nellai-madurai,certainly everyone will expect that. Also nanguneri SEZ has started off after 10 yrs :lol: . 2 companies have started their production. There are also many projects allocated in other parts of TN, i agree with that, there is no doubt that, but why these places are not attracting investors is what my question is all about?

The answer is quite simple and it also reflects what Debendranath Sarangi (Chief Secretary / Chairman Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation Ltd) said, the resources are abundant, but the lack of infrastructure is what make companies to think about investing in nanguneri SEZ.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 12:15 AM

Nainar wasn't given any ministry initially, but after 2001 he was given transport ministry and after 2 or 3 years he has been allotted Electricity and Industries Ministry. Initially natham vishwanathan was holding that ministry, But JJ dropped 2 ministers viswanathan and durairaj during 2001

Source

http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/aug/29tn.htm

BTW, were had it been reported that Nainar wasn't given any ministry

Business standard reports the following

All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK) chief J Jayalalithaa is set to be sworn in as the new chief minister of Tamil Nadu on Monday. The new Cabinet will have 34 ministers.

Some of the key portfolios have been allocated to her trusted and senior AIADMK leaders including former chief minister O Panneerselvam (Finance), V Senthil Balaji (Transport), S Thellapndian (Labour), K A Senkottaiyan (Agriculture), Nainar Nagendran (Industry), C V Shanmugam (Education), and Gokula Indira.

Source

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/jaya-34-member-cabinet-to-be-sworn-in-today/435679/

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/3-chief-ministers-to-be-sworn-in-today/435702/

Hmm after the constituency list, another list confusion. Hope he is in

Mr.Nellai

May 16th, 2011, 12:26 AM

^^^^ After searching from the Internet, almost all sources say that nainar is not "in". But who knows whether the same list remains unchanged till tomorrow morning :). that is the specialty of JJ

GJ10

May 16th, 2011, 02:05 AM

Just re- read last 10 pages or ask any non tn folks to read it ask them to vote
if its anti chennai yes or no.

(Am only commenting on posts in English)

Way I see it, Pro-TN kinda seems to be the same as Anti-Chennai if Chennai is a persons main priority. (Based on Chennai Discussions Thread as well, esp Electricity to Chennai issue)

Does seem like many ppl are more interested in seeing Chennai fare well vs Bangalore/Metros than considering the overall development of the State.

Obv there is no need for anyone to think State>City, it doesnt make anyone a bad person if they dont, and its equally possible to think of Chennai>TN as it is to think CBE>TN or Madurai>TN

Issue seems to be that ppl either dont know that this is the attitude that comes across in their posts/reasoning or dont want to admit that this is the attitude they have... hence this argument just cycles again and again and again...

(Somewhat entertaining tho)

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 03:08 AM

ChennaiIndian

May 16th, 2011, 03:38 AM

(Am only commenting on posts in English)

Way I see it, Pro-TN kinda seems to be the same as Anti-Chennai if Chennai is a persons main priority. (Based on Chennai Discussions Thread as well, esp Electricity to Chennai issue)

Does seem like many ppl are more interested in seeing Chennai fare well vs Bangalore/Metros than considering the overall development of the State.

Obv there is no need for anyone to think State>City, it doesnt make anyone a bad person if they dont, and its equally possible to think of Chennai>TN as it is to think CBE>TN or Madurai>TN

Issue seems to be that ppl either dont know that this is the attitude that comes across in their posts/reasoning or dont want to admit that this is the attitude they have... hence this argument just cycles again and again and again...

(Somewhat entertaining tho)
I generally don't stick my head into this argument. I have observed that it is only konguT who in most of his posts have made the accusation that developments in TN are Chennai-centric. Others are making it but not much. So, this time, I thought of putting in some facts and figures to make this an engaging conversation.

I may be wrong in making this observation but here are my thoughts...of all people in various states in India, I feel that TN people don't like Chennai as compared to other state people liking their capital city no matter how good or bad it is. They fail to understand that not many state capital cities in India are metros having access to some the best infrastructure that is available in India on par with most other big and important cities. In general, it turns out that only Chennai people like Chennai. :)

The fact is that the population of Chennai is made up of people who have originated from various parts of TN and other neighboring states. We are not people from Mars to be viewed differently. :lol:

gvijayan

May 16th, 2011, 03:54 AM

JJ & ADMK cut-outs

Just heard from my team mate in Chennai that, JJ & ADMK cut-outs have been placed all over Mount Road, Gopalapuram and Alwarpet for every 10 meters.

I wish they concentrate only on the developmental issues and avoid these kind of activities. This will make the neutral people who voted/supported (which really mattered in their victory) for ADMK to feel bad.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 05:02 AM

Karunanidhi tensed about Sonia - Jayalalitha tea party - News

My advice to kalaigner

ஒருவர் ஐயங்கார் பெண்மணி, இன்னொருவர் இத்தாலிய கிருத்துவ பெண்மணி இவர்கள் பேசி கொண்டால் உங்களுக்கு என்ன? Be cool
kalaignarae :cheers:

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 07:12 AM

murlee

May 16th, 2011, 07:20 AM

Lets give her the benefit of doubt!! This has been a historic victory for her.. And today is her swearing in ceremony! Let her have her moment!! Lets just hope this doesn't become a routine...

gnams

May 16th, 2011, 07:22 AM

One small corretion. In Tenksai - tirunelveli, even BG conversion is not complete:). So i know it won't make sense to expect electrification in that line. But for nellai-madurai,certainly everyone will expect that. Also nanguneri SEZ has started off after 10 yrs :lol: . 2 companies have started their production. There are also many projects allocated in other parts of TN, i agree with that, there is no doubt that, but why these places are not attracting investors is what my question is all about?

The answer is quite simple and it also reflects what Debendranath Sarangi (Chief Secretary / Chairman Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation Ltd) said, the resources are abundant, but the lack of infrastructure is what make companies to think about investing in nanguneri SEZ.

you have to tell... and u have told the answer...
reg Sarangi's point it is his personal opinion and by all logic, we cant accept it as the correct... chennai never had good infrastructure to get all these growth..

the main thing is talented manpower (like u) have migrated/moved out from all these tier2/3 cities looooong bak and they r refusing to come bak and create the needed opps in these cities..

first thing for growth is manpower -- it shud be as varied and as talented so that any industry cud survive in the long run.. when india got independence, all the metros had all these varied manpower which triggered more influx from all other cities in TN into chennai and since Chennai had all necessary instituitions like educational, health, transport infra built by british, it was growing leaps and bounds where all other cities stagnated(at least in ur view)

i will tell u.. atleast all other cities have got new railway stations... chennai has got still the old chennai central built by british..
all other cities are getting new airports... chennai is now only getting its share
all other cities got good roads/by passes/ring roads...chennai all these days had/have only mount road/PH road/beach road all built by british as arterial roads..no new roads at all..
u guys know that only road IRR is still not finished and chennai bypass jus now opened whereas madurai got its ring road in PTR.Palanivel rajans period itself, chennai has still not got its ORR.
chennai was the face of TN for outsiders and what was happening was indeed a makeup (rose powder pottu, lip stick thadavi, kkadhula poo suthi vach irukkanga) and they are putting the same makeup every 5 yrs...
whatever chennai (face) eats thro its mouth goes into other parts of its bodies truely.. like all from other cities come here and study in elite edu instituitions and take up jobs and developing the economy bak in their home town..
so, no need for other parts of the body (tier 2 or 3 cities) to cry over the fact that the face(chennai) gets the makeup... better be without makeup and get all nutritioons from the face... actually the FACE suffers a LOT.. A HELL LOT.

rsubbu.mdu

May 16th, 2011, 08:42 AM

JJ & ADMK cut-outs

Just heard from my team mate in Chennai that, JJ & ADMK cut-outs have been placed all over Mount Road, Gopalapuram and Alwarpet for every 10 meters.
.

Posters which came up on Friday / Saturday in Madurai...

"Azhagiri kottayil vizhundadu ottai, in Tamizhagam Ammavin Kottai"

a big Namam in a poster, and three vertical portions of the namam have the images of Thatha in the middle, Stalin on one side and Annan on the other ....

Regards,
Subbu

dhandapanik

May 16th, 2011, 08:55 AM

சென்னை : தமிழக முதல்வராக ஜெயலலிதா பதவியேற்பதை முன்னிட்டு, பதவியேற்பு விழாவில் கலந்து கொள்வதற்காக குஜராத் மாநில முதல்வர் நரேந்திர மோடி, தெலுங்குதேச கட்சி தலைவர் சந்திரபாபு நாயுடு, இந்திய கம்யூனிஸ்ட் தேசிய செயலர் டி.ராஜா, ஆகியோர் வந்தடைந்தனர்.

Source:
http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=241738

Modi, Chandrababu Naidu, D.Raja to be part of the function. Seems that Gap10 also came... Hope Amma joins BJP alliance.. But she said sonia talked to her.. enna nadakuthune puriala..

spidermanusa

May 16th, 2011, 09:14 AM

Ungallukkachum siruthuli pondra poruppana amaipugal ellam serndhu kovai managarathin neer nilaigalai ellam punaramaikkudhu.. engalukku indha arasangatha vitta vera yaaru irukka. :lol:

Reading this is like biting on stone. No offence. Would you mind posting in Tamil instead of using English letters?

gnams

May 16th, 2011, 09:40 AM

just watching the JJ ceremony...
think she has picked mins somewat intelligently..
an orthopaedic doctor Vijay as Health minister
Agri.krishnamurthy as food minster (dont know why he became agri.krihna..something to do with agriculture ??)
and c.ve.shanmugavelu(if am correct) from coimbatore for industries..
amma herself for Police and home..
K.A.Sengottaiyan for agriculture.
someone (dont remember) from udhagai for tourism

just saw Cho.karuupasamy taking oath.. what an active person and sooperb voice..he was too speed and amma/entire hall was laughing.. he is for animal husbandry i think...sure he must have got some pannais or something to do with animals.. ;)

vs007

May 16th, 2011, 09:46 AM

JJ & ADMK cut-outs

Just heard from my team mate in Chennai that, JJ & ADMK cut-outs have been placed all over Mount Road, Gopalapuram and Alwarpet for every 10 meters.

I wish this is only temporary and hope she has some wisdom to continue the good policies of erstwhile Govt.

Her actions so far leave a lot to be desired.

rsubbu.mdu

May 16th, 2011, 10:16 AM

Modi, Chandrababu Naidu, D.Raja to be part of the function. Seems that Gap10 also came... Hope Amma joins BJP alliance.. But she said sonia talked to her.. enna nadakuthune puriala..

விழாவில் சிபிஎம் செயலாளர் ஜி.ராமகிருஷ்ணன், சிபிஐ செயலாளர் தா.பாண்டியன், சமத்துவ மக்கள் கட்சி தலைவர் சரத்குமார், மற்றும் மனித நேய மக்கள் கட்சி, பார்வர்ட் பிளாக், புதிய தமிழகம், மூவேந்தர் முன்னேற்ற முன்னணி உள்ளிட்ட தமிழக கூட்டணிக் கட்சித் தலைவர்கள் , பா.ஜ., மாநில தலைவர் பொன். ராதாகிருஷ்ணன், பத்திரிகையாளர் சோ, ஐகோர்ட் நீதிபதிகள் , போலீஸ் உயர் அதிகாரிகள், உள்பட திரளானவர்கள் பங்கேற்றனர்.

What can we infer from this....still Amma has love left for the BJP ?.....

Modi and Pon.Radhakrishnan of BJP present in the swearing in ceremony...

Regards,
Subbu

Leo_r

May 16th, 2011, 11:23 AM

Governor Surjit Singh made JJ very tense by reaching the Venue very late. 12.15 PM auspicious Mukhurta time went by. JJ would have seen her watch atleast 10 times during the long wait,passing ins.. to Paneer.

Finally she took her oath at 12.44 PM.

In olden times,MGR's fans are called 'whistle adichaan Kunju' or something like it. They did the same while JJ was taking the oath. Heavy influence from CSK's 'whistle podu'

The order you see in New Delhi during such ceremony was missing.

Jagadeesh R

May 16th, 2011, 11:37 AM

Jayalalithaa's council of ministers

J Jayalalithaa has taken oath as Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. She took oath in Tamil at the historic Madras University's centenary Auditorium today.

Jayalalithaa's cabinet has 33 other ministers, four more than the last DMK government. At least 25 members of the cabinet are new faces.

Jayalalithaa will hold the Home, Police, General Administration and prevention of corruption departments, among others.

Former chief minister O Pannerselvam has been allotted the Finance portfolio while another senior leader, K.A. Sengottaiyan, gets Agriculture.

Natham R. Viswanathan will look after Power, Prohibition and Excise.

Apart from Jayalalithaa, the AIADMK government will have two women ministers -- S. Gokula Indira (Commercial Taxes and Registration) and Selvi Ramajayam (Social Welfare).

The following are other ministers and their portfolios;

C. Shanmugavelu - Industries
S.S. Krishnamoorthy - Food
C. Karuppasamy - Animal Husbandry
K.P. Munisamy - Municipal Administration, Rural Development
R. Vaithilingam - Housing and Urban Development
Sellur K. Raju - Cooperation
P. Palaniappan - Higher Education
K.T. Pachamal - Forests
Edappadi K. Palanisamy - Highways and Minor Ports
C. Ve. Shanmugam - School Education
S.P. Velumani - Special Programme Implementation
T.K.M. Chinnayya - Backward Classes
M.C. Sampath - Rural Industries
G. Senthamizhan - Information
K.V. Ramalingam - Public Works
S.P. Shanmuganathan - Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments
P. Thangamani - Revenue
B.V. Ramanaa - Handlooms and Textiles
R.B. Udhayakumar - Information and Technology
N. Subramanian - Adi Dravidar and Tribal Welfare
V. Senthil Balaji - Transport
N. Mariyam Pichai - Environment
K.A. Jayapal - Fisheries
E. Subaya - Law, Courts and Prisons
Budhichandhiran - Tourism
S.T. Chellapandian - Labour
V.S. Vijay - Health
N.R. Sivapathi - Sports and Youth Welfare

SOURCE: www.ndtv.in (http://www.ndtv.com/article/assembly-polls/jayalalithaas-council-of-ministers-106073)

spidermanusa

May 16th, 2011, 01:03 PM

Jayalalithaa will hold prevention of corruption departments, among others.

Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice....

josephantony

May 16th, 2011, 01:13 PM

thillai_selvan

May 16th, 2011, 01:20 PM

Jagadeesh R

May 16th, 2011, 01:32 PM

What about sasikala?

She is the over all head for AIADMK's Selection Commission :lol:

Jagadeesh R

May 16th, 2011, 01:33 PM

Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice....

Not got your words:ohno:

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 01:47 PM

Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice....

Karunanidi should have fooled you 5 times by now:) it has become a ritual now that CM holds to this and law & order portfolio

GJ10

May 16th, 2011, 02:05 PM

I generally don't stick my head into this argument. I have observed that it is only konguT who in most of his posts have made the accusation that developments in TN are Chennai-centric. Others are making it but not much. So, this time, I thought of putting in some facts and figures to make this an engaging conversation.

I may be wrong in making this observation but here are my thoughts...of all people in various states in India, I feel that TN people don't like Chennai as compared to other state people liking their capital city no matter how good or bad it is. They fail to understand that not many state capital cities in India are metros having access to some the best infrastructure that is available in India on par with most other big and important cities. In general, it turns out that only Chennai people like Chennai. :)

The fact is that the population of Chennai is made up of people who have originated from various parts of TN and other neighboring states. We are not people from Mars to be viewed differently. :lol:

Isnt the obvious dark-side to the Top-Down development of "metro cities", places like Vidharbha and Telangana? This is the real point, nothing to do with "liking" Chennai or not.

I dont think anyone would begrudge Chennai continued growth, as long as it doesnt come at the expense of other regions (ie power cuts)

And believe me, Im in no way suggesting these attitudes are unique to Chennai, its just a big-city mentality to think the way many ppl here do.

GJ10

May 16th, 2011, 02:17 PM

GJ10, It would be nice to know from you about mentality of people of Gujrat when it comes to all-round development. Also would appreciate to know if people do city vs city comparison within GJ and demand more.

The reason I am asking you is the GJ forum is not much active here to get the pulse. Hope u don't mind sharing your thoughts

Does any part of the state feel cheated or does Modi take care of it ?

Well, sparsely populated Kutch/Saurashtra regions were left to rot by successive Govts post independence. Changes started for Saurashtra in 90s and only after 2001 Earthquake for Kutch.

As a business minded culture, ppl will alway want more than what they have, but situation now is a big change compared to the outright neglect much of the state suffered within living memory for most people.

Even then, the way things are going, should see Ahmedabad/Surat break into the "metro" pack within the next 5yrs (maximum).

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 02:41 PM

^^ Thanks man!! I guess Alang's woes continues as well and not adequate focus out there on that area..

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 02:43 PM

An article about Tamilnadu Legislative Assembly (http://savukku.net/home/827-2011-05-16-04-07-02.html) @ Savukku.

எல்லார் மனதிலும் உள்ள கேள்வி இது. வாசகர்களில் பலர், இந்தக் கட்டிடம் மக்கள் வரிப்பணத்தில் கட்டப் பட்டதால், ஈகோ பார்க்காமல், புதிய கட்டிடத்தில் ஜெயலலிதா பணியாற்ற வேண்டும் என்று தெரிவித்துள்ளனர். ஒரு வாசகர் இன்னும் ஒரு படி மேலே போய், சிறந்த நகைச்சுவை உணர்வோடு, இந்தக் கட்டிடத்தை கருணாநிதி குடும்பத்திடம் ஒப்படைத்து விட்டு, 1000 கோடி ரூபாயை திரும்ப வாங்கிக் கொள்ளலாம் என்று கூறியிருந்தார். இந்தக் கட்டிடம் அல்ல, புனித ஜார்ஜ் கோட்டைக்கு ஒரு விலை சொன்னீர்கள் என்றால் கூட, அதையும் வாங்கிக் கொள்ளும் அளவுக்கு கருணாநிதி குடும்பத்தினரிடம் பணம் இருக்கிறது என்பதே உண்மை. நினைத்த நாளில் குழந்தை ஆசைப்படுவது போல புதிய கட்டிடத்தை திறக்க வேண்டும் என்று, 2 கோடி ரூபாய்க்கு தோட்டா தரணியை வைத்து செட் போட்டு, திறப்பு விழா நடத்தினாரே கருணாநிதி….. மன்னிக்கவே முடியாது.

இந்த புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடம், கருணாநிதியின் திட்டம் மட்டும் அன்று. 2001 ஆட்சிக் காலத்தில், ஜெயலலிதா, புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகம் கட்ட வேண்டும் என்று, ராணி மேரிக் கல்லூரியை இடித்து விட்டு, அங்கே கட்ட முயன்றதும், சுற்றுச் சூழல் அமைச்சராக மத்தியில் இருந்த திமுக அமைச்சர் டி.ஆர்.பாலு, அதற்கு தடையில்லா சான்று வழங்காததாலும், கல்லூரி மாணவிகள் பெருமளவில் திரண்டு போராட்டம் நடத்தியதாலும், அந்தத் திட்டம் நிறைவேறாமல் போனது. ராணுவத்திற்கு சொந்தமான தற்போதைய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடத்தை ராணுவம் திருப்பிக் கேட்டதால், அப்போது புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடம் கட்டுவதற்கான தேவை ஏற்பட்டதாக தகவல்கள் கூறுகின்றன.

அதற்குப் பிறகு, அந்த இடத்தை ராணுவம் கேட்டது போலத் தெரியவில்லை. அதனால்தானே செம்மொழி ஆய்வு நிறுவனத்துக்கு அந்தக் கட்டிடத்தை கருணாநிதி வழங்கினார் ?

சரி. 1000 கோடி ரூபாய் மக்கள் பணத்தை செலவழித்தாகி விட்டது. சட்டசபையையும், தலைமைச் செயலகத்தையும், புதிய கட்டிடத்திற்கு மாற்றலாமா வேண்டாமா ?

ஏற்கனவே செயல்பட்டு வந்த புனித ஜார்ஜ் கோட்டையானது, பழம் பெருமை வாய்ந்தது. 17ம் நூற்றாண்டுக் கட்டிடம் அது. சென்னை நகரின் பாரம்பரியத்தையும் பெருமையையும் உணர்த்துவது. மற்ற மாநிலங்களில் புதிய கட்டிடத்தில் சட்ட சபையும், தலைமைச் செயலகமும் செயல்படுவதற்கான காரணம், இது போன்றதொரு அழகான கட்டிடம் இல்லாததுதானே ? அப்படிப் பட்ட சிறப்பான கட்டிடம் இருக்கும் போது புதிய கட்டிடம் எதற்கு ? கனியிருப்பக் காய் கவரலாமா ?

சரி புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடத்தை என்ன செய்யலாம் ? சென்னை நகரிலும், புறநகரிலும், நூற்றுக் கணக்கான அரசு அலுவலகங்கள் இயங்கி வருகின்றன. அவற்றுள் பல வாடகை கட்டடிங்களில் இயங்கி வருகின்றன. உதாரணத்திற்கு, நீதிபதிகளுக்காக கட்டப் பட்ட குடியிருப்பில் தான், லஞ்ச ஒழிப்புத் துறை இயங்கி வருகிறது. இது போல, பல்வேறு இடங்களில் செயல்பட்டு வரும் துறைத் தலைமை அலுவலகங்களை ஒருங்கிணைத்து, துறைத் தலைமை அலுவலகங்களுக்கான கட்டிடமாக புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடத்தை மாற்றலாம். தற்போது அரசு கட்டிடங்களில் செயல்பட்டு வரும் துறைத் தலைமை அலுவலகங்களால் காலியாகும் இடங்களில், கீழ் நிலை அரசு அலுவலகங்களுக்கு பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ளலாம்.

பொதுவாக ஒரு அரசு அலுவலகத்திலிருந்து மற்றொரு அரசு அலுவலகத்துக்கு ஒரு விபரம் வேண்டி கடிதம் எழுதினால், ஒரு வருடத்திற்கு, I invite your kind attention to the reference cited என்று மாவரைத்துக் கொண்டிருப்பார்கள். துறைத் தலைமை அலுவலகங்கள் ஒரே வளாகத்தில் இருந்தால், சம்பந்தப் பட்ட துறையின் அலுவலகர்கள், நேராக அந்த அலுவலகத்துக்கே சென்று, விளக்கங்கள் பெற்று, தேவையின்றி ஏற்படும் கால விரயத்தை தவிர்க்கலாம். மேலும், இது போன்ற ஒருங்கிணைந்த அரசு அலுவலகங்கள் இருப்பதால், ஒரு வகையான வெளிப்படைத் தன்மை ஏற்படும்.

ரகசியமாக அலுவலகத்தில் சந்தித்து, ‘டீல்’ பேசுவது போன்ற காரியங்களை தவிர்க்கலாம்.

இதையெல்லாம் விட, பல்வேறு காரணங்களுக்காக அரசு அலுவலகங்களை அணுகும் பொது மக்கள் இங்கும் அங்கும் அலையாமல், ஒரே இடத்தில் அனைத்து அலுவலகங்களில் உள்ள வேலையையும் முடிக்கும் வாய்ப்பு இருக்கிறது.

ஆலோசனை நன்றாக இருக்கிறதா அன்பு வாசகர்களே ?

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 03:02 PM

Jaya tv live telecast of Jaya going to Fort from Poes garden......

semma comedy music.

Live relay from Poes to Fort on the road... one good thing is that no restriction on traffic on the city roads.

But poes garden area la mattum over flags and cut outs.... :X :X :X

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 03:05 PM

b/w when arrikai war will start b/w thatha and aatha?

Jagadeesh R

May 16th, 2011, 03:06 PM

^^^^^^^

Jaya thinks that there may be a huge money scandal happened while constructing this new Secretariat by DMK govt, she may order for a investigation on the same soon.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 03:14 PM

Live relay from Poes to Fort on the road... one good thing is that no restriction on traffic on the city roads.

Nice to know that.

I wish they do live relay for all her road trips and have video proof that there are no traffic restrictions :)

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 03:15 PM

b/w when arrikai war will start b/w thatha and aatha?

naatula 4-peru adichikalanna ungalukku thookamae varadha? :)

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 03:21 PM

naatula 4-peru adichikalanna ungalukku thookamae varadha? :)

tamil naatu arasiyala ithenna puthusa enna?

b/w it will be entertainment.... when aatha and thatha both are still there, how can be expect that culture to change?

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Ippadiyum oru (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=241413) theory. Tanjore temple sentiment, still working??

தஞ்சாவூர்: தஞ்சை பெரிய கோவிலுக்குள் பதவியில் இருப்பவர்கள் வந்து சென்றால், பதவி பறிபோகும் என்பது, இந்த தேர்தல் மூலம் மீண்டும் நிரூபணமாகி உள்ளது.

"தஞ்சை பெரிய கோவிலுக்கு வி.ஐ.பி.,க்கள் வந்து சென்றால், அவர்கள் பதவி பறிபோகும்; உயிர் போகும்' என, பல கருத்துக்கள் நிலவுகின்றன. இதனால், இங்கு வரும் பெரும்பாலான வி.ஐ.பி.,க்கள், பெரிய கோவிலுக்குள் செல்வதை தவிர்ப்பர்.இதற்கு, பிரதமராக இருந்த இந்திரா, முன்னாள் ஜனாதிபதி சங்கர் தயாள் சர்மா, முன்னாள் முதல்வர் எம்.ஜி.ஆர்., போன்றோரை உதாரணமாகக் கூறுவர். தஞ்சை பெரிய கோவில் கும்பாபிஷேகத்தின் போது ஏற்பட்ட தீ விபத்தில், 50க்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் பலியாகினர்.இச்சம்பவம் அறிந்து அப்போதைய முதல்வராக இருந்த கருணாநிதி, கோவிலின் நேர் வழியாக வராமல் பக்கவாட்டு வாசல் வழியாக வந்து, கோவிலுக்குள் செல்லாமல், சம்பவ இடத்தை மட்டும் பார்வையிட்டுச் சென்றார். இதுபோல, பல உதாரணங்களை கூறலாம்.

கடந்த செப்., 22 முதல் 26ம் தேதி வரை, தஞ்சை பெரிய கோவிலில் ஆயிரமாவது ஆண்டு விழா நடந்தது. 25ம் தேதியன்று கோவிலுக்குள் பத்மா சுப்பிரமணியம் தலைமையில் ஆயிரம் நடனக் கலைஞர்கள் நடனமாடினர்.இந்நிகழ்ச்சியில் பங்கேற்க பட்டு வேட்டி, சட்டை சகிதமாக வந்த கருணாநிதி, பிரதான வாயில் வழியாக வராமல், சிவகங்கை பூங்கா வழியாக, தெற்குப்புற வாயில் வழியாக வந்து, மூலஸ்தானத்துக்கு பக்கவாட்டில் அமர்ந்து நிகழ்ச்சியை கண்டுகளித்தார். பெரிய கோவிலுக்குள் முதல்வர் வந்து சென்றதால், பெரிய கோவில் சென்டிமென்டுக்கு முற்றுப்புள்ளி வைக்கப்பட்டதாக பலரும் கருதினர்.அடுத்த நாள் நிறைவு விழாவில், முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சர் ராஜா பேசுகையில், "இந்த நாள் கணக்கு பார்க்கும் நாள்; கணக்கு தீர்க்கும் நாள். ராஜராஜன் காலத்தில் சதுர்வேதி மங்கலங்களை உருவாக்கினார். ஆனால், தி.மு.க., தலைவர் கருணாநிதி சமத்துவபுரத்தை உருவாக்கி, அவர் காலத்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஆதிக்க கணக்கை கருணாநிதி தீர்த்துள்ளார்' என பேசி சென்றார்.

கடந்த நவம்பரில், "2ஜி' ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் பிரச்னையில் சிக்கிய ராஜா, பதவி இழந்து, கைதாகி இன்று வரை வெளியே வர இயலாத வகையில் டில்லி திகார் சிறையில் சிக்கித் தவிக்கிறார். "2ஜி' ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் பிரச்னையால், காங்., - தி.மு.க., உறவும் பல கட்ட பிரச்னைகளை சந்தித்து, கனிமொழி, தயாளு போன்றோரிடம் சி.பி.ஐ., விசாரணை, கலைஞர் "டிவி' அலுவலகத்தில் ரெய்டு, குற்றப்பத்திரிகையில் கனிமொழி பெயர், தொடர் விசாரணை, எந்த நேரமும் கைதாகலாம் என்ற நிலை, தேர்தல் கூட்டணியில் இழுபறி என தொடர்ந்த சிக்கல், பெரிய கோவில் சென்டிமென்டை மீண்டும் நிரூபித்துள்ளது.

தேர்தல் துவங்கியது முதல், தி.மு.க., - அ.தி.மு.க., கூட்டணியை வைத்து கணித்த அனைவரும், இரு கட்சிகளும் சம பலத்தில் வருவர், கூட்டணி ஆட்சி நடக்கும் என, பல யூகங்களை தெரிவித்தனர்.இதனால், தமிழகத்தில் ஆட்சியை கைப்பற்றாவிட்டாலும், மத்தியில் அங்கம் வகிப்பதால் தங்களை அ.தி.மு.க.,விடம் இருந்து காத்துக் கொள்ளலாம் என எண்ணிய தி.மு.க.,வுக்கு, தேர்தல் ரிசல்ட் கடும் அதிர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தியுள்ளது.எதிர்க்கட்சியாகக் கூட அமர இயலாத அளவுக்கு, தஞ்சை பெரிய கோவில், "சென்டிமென்ட்' தன் வேலையை காட்டியுள்ளது என்பது, இந்த சென்டிமென்ட் மீது நம்பிக்கை வைத்துள்ளவர்களை மீண்டும் முணுமுணுக்க வைத்துள்ளது.

spidermanusa

May 16th, 2011, 03:58 PM

Karunanidi should have fooled you 5 times by now:) it has become a ritual now that CM holds to this and law & order portfolio

Ok. You win this round.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 04:04 PM

Ok. You win this round.

Hey I didn't mean it as an argument. Anyways 15 years from now you will win :)

spidermanusa

May 16th, 2011, 04:23 PM

Hey I didn't mean it as an argument. Anyways 15 years from now you will win :)

I didn't take it as one. It was jovial. I hate using smilies. I'll add j/k at the end if that will help.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 05:12 PM

Kunjumani kaamedikku alavae illama pochi!!

Ippa ellam avaru internasonal paalitix aarambichitaru

Source (http://www.dinamani.com/edition/Story.aspx?SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=419021&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%87%2018:%20%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B4%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81)

மே 18: நியூயார்க் போராட்டத்தில் திராவிடர் கழகம் பங்கேற்பு

சென்னை, மே 16- ஈழத் தமிழர்களுக்கு ஆதரவாக நியூயார்க் நகரில் உள்ள ஐநா அலுவலகம் முன்பாக நடைபெறும் போராட்டத்தில் திராவிடர் கழகம் சார்பில் அதன் தலைமை நிலையச் செயலர் கலந்துகொள்கிறார் என்று அக்கட்சியின் தலைவர் கி. வீரமணி கூறியுள்ளார்.

இதுகுறித்து அவர் இன்று வெளியிட்டுள்ள அறிக்கையில் கூறியிருப்பதாவது:

மே 18-ம் தேதி, ஈழத் தமிழர்களுக்கு ஆதரவாக நியூயார்க் நகரில் ஐ.நா. தலைமை அலுவலகம் முன் நடைபெறும் போராட்டம் மிகவும் முக்கியத்துவம் வாய்ந்ததாகும். அதனை திராவிடர் கழகத்தின் சார்பில் பாராட்டி வரவேற்கிறோம்.

திராவிடர் கழகத் தலைமை நிலைய செயலாளர் வீ. அன்புராஜ், அந்த போராட்டத்தில் பங்கேற்க உள்ளார். பெரியார் பன்னாட்டு அமைப்பின் சார்பில் மருத்துவர் சோம. இளங்கோவன் மற்றும் தோழர்களும் பங்கேற்கின்றனர்.

மேலும், நியூயார்க்கில் நடக்கும் போராட்டத்திற்குப் பின் ஏற்படும் விளைவுகளைத் தொடர்ந்து, நிலைமையைப் பரிசீலித்து, அடுத்தகட்ட நடவடிக்கைகளில் திராவிடர் கழகம் இறங்கும் என்பதையும் தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறோம்.

தமிழ்நாட்டில் அரசியல் கண்ணோட்டம் இல்லாமல், இந்திய அரசை வற்புறுத்தும் வழிவகைகள் காண அனைவரும் முன்வர வேண்டும் என்பது நமது முக்கிய வேண்டுகோள்.

இவ்வாறு கி. வீரமணி தனது அறிக்கையில் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 06:18 PM

rsubbu.mdu

May 16th, 2011, 06:37 PM

Cable TV empirekku aapu.

Amma is looking forward to reap crores of money into government's kitty thru Arasu cable to fund the welfare schemes (freebies).

Arasu cable expected to generate 3000 crore. Will update more, stay tuned...

Smart move by Amma, will it prove another TASMAC for the Govt...?

Guys,

Not sure whether this link is already shared here, check out thata's story :

http://caravanmagazine.in/Story.aspx?StoryID=817&Page=1

Regards,
Subbu

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 06:41 PM

^^

oru chinna cal, even if 1crore (household, commercial) going to use arasu cable, it will be 1200crore turn over business considering with 100rupees rent per month in subsidy rate.

ithula profit?? athu thaanae gvt? athu eppadi 3k varum!! give some layman explanation for non-economics/finance persons like me.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 06:56 PM

^^ Good question. don't know, will let u know the details once I get the updates.

PS. Is the customer base jus 1 cr? I guess it might be more

Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 06:57 PM

dhayaalagiri Dhayanidhi Alagiri - tweet

: will bounce back !!! Strong n hard !!!

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:lol::lol:

Udayanithi stalin tweet was much better...... it was like what ever happened, it is for good.

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kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 07:08 PM

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Arul Murugan

May 16th, 2011, 07:08 PM

Rise of petrol price - not related to central government - Pranab....

how shamelessly they make statements like above?

Subra

May 16th, 2011, 07:13 PM

Any background details on the Industries and IT Minister? Hope they retain their ministries at least for 1 year. In the past Aatha regime, ministers were swapped very frequently.

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 07:13 PM

dhayaalagiri Dhayanidhi Alagiri - tweet

: will bounce back !!! Strong n hard !!!

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avaru apparu innum roomu kadhava moodikittu anjaa nenjara veetukullara than irukkarama? :lol:

murlee

May 16th, 2011, 07:14 PM

wlbkng

May 16th, 2011, 07:17 PM

Reading this is like biting on stone. No offence. Would you mind posting in Tamil instead of using English letters?

I wouldn't mind posting it in Tamil(I have done that lot of times before). There are some forummers who speak tamil but not able to read. Thats why from recent past, I am posting my tamil comments in english. Btw, it would be a good strength of material test for your teeth if you feel like biting stone. :lol: J/K

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 07:24 PM

How r u updating all this?? Do u have a inside source in ADMk?? :shifty:

No. I have friends in media

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 08:55 PM

Any background details on the Industries and IT Minister? Hope they retain their ministries at least for 1 year. In the past Aatha regime, ministers were swapped very frequently.

Here (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/05/16/tami-nadu-ministers-at-glance-aid0091.html) is the background info for all ministers

R2IChennai

May 16th, 2011, 08:55 PM

There can't be more than 1.5 crore households in TN, Considering its 7.2 crore population even if you charge 100Rs per month it will be less than 1800 crores. I am not sure how much of which will go as expenditure and how much will be profit. This arasu cable is seriously a bs idea. Are these employees going to be a govt employees with pension now
And consumers will complain if they charge 100Rs per month, they would demand free cable as its tamizhanin blood right. So eventually govt would end up subsidising that as well

muthu_krish

May 16th, 2011, 09:01 PM

Seperate Minister to look after distribution of freebies... :ohno:

muthu_krish

May 16th, 2011, 09:05 PM

This arasu cable is seriously a bs idea. Are these employees going to be a govt employees with pension now
And consumers will complain if they charge 100Rs per month, they would demand free cable as its tamizhanin blood right. So eventually govt would end up subsidising that as well

But you can expect an excellent / immediate service for your complaints... :lol:

murlee

May 16th, 2011, 09:48 PM

Beware the political superbug: Hubris!

Any government that comes to power now and in the future will ignore at its own peril the rising expectations of the people who are in no mood to tolerate nonsense from ruling circles.

May 17, 2011:
The first thing I will do as a service to the parties and their leaders who have won the recent State elections and are set to form governments is to hand over to them a compilation of the narratives on the serial uprisings that engulfed Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Jordan and elsewhere, and the gripping visual in which scores of tribal women in Andhra Pradesh were seen chasing, pummelling and driving away a Telugu Desam MLA who had deigned to go to their village.

Barely six months ago nobody could have even imagined the all-powerful Tunisian and Egyptian Presidents being thrown out and Mr Hosni Mubarak and his wife being dragged summarily to face trial on charges of mammoth corruption.

Fortunately, the people of India have an outlet in the form of elections to vent their anger against injustices and extortions by politicians in power and authority. It is interesting, though, to speculate whether Tamil Nadu and West Bengal might have gone the way of Tunisia and Egypt but for that safety valve.

DARKEST BLOT

But elections alone do not a democracy make. Further, they come only once in five years, with little respite in between from hardships and sufferings for the aam aadmi due to the venality, arrogance and callousness of the administrative and ruling classes.

The darkest blot on the political class in India is hubris. That is what is at the root of all the ills and evils — corruption, poor service delivery, lack of accountability and transparency, and want of sensitivity, empathy and responsiveness that detract from the genuineness of the democracy India is credited with having.

It has become an established axiom in India that the havoc created by hubris is directly proportionate to the scale of victory in the elections.

It is the one superbug in the air and on the prowl that needs to be fought by persons in politics with frequent booster shots of humility, tolerance and spirit of service before self. So, the code of conduct I am going to suggest in my column today is meant for those who would be assuming power in Tamil Nadu and West Bengal.

The first and most essential ingredient of the medicine against hubris is an open door with plenty of fresh air.

Unhindered accessibility to those one works with and those in public life is, of course, a must.

In addition, setting apart, as Jawaharlal Nehru used to do, a couple of hours every day to mingle with the people and enable them to put forward their suggestions and complaints will help those in perches of power to identify themselves with the people and have their fingers on their pulse. Simple and austere life-style (in which Ms Mamata Banerjee scores over all politicians) will enhance their appeal to the power of n.

The new Chief Ministers of Kerala, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal should refrain from the common failing of reversing or discarding the policies, projects and schemes launched by the predecessor-government simply because they were of a different party.

The only touchstone should be their merits in respect of promoting people's welfare. If, however, the new government had won on the basis of better or different policies, there is nothing wrong in replacing the ones followed by the predecessor, but to reject them just out of political spite is not a sign of maturity.

TOPMOST PRIORITIES

The biggest challenges before the new Tamil Nadu Government are corruption and depoliticisation of administration. There are no words to describe the mental torment suffered by the people at the hands of functionaries of the State which has been rated as the second most corrupt State in India by the Transparency International.

Similarly, the servility, sycophancy and subservience of the Tamil Nadu bureaucracy is also a byword. There are very few among its members who do not carry some political label or the other; the prevalent belief is that each of them either leans towards, or is in the pocket of, some political party or politician or the other.

In no other State do IAS/IPS officers so cringingly troop with outsize bouquets, garlands and packets of sweets to the houses not only of the Chief Ministers-to-be, but of other prominent leaders of parties that have won the elections.

Encouraging such tendencies is not good to the State; in the ultimate analysis, it is not good to the political system either. If Ms Jayalalithaa does nothing else but cleanse the administration of these two long-standing evils that are eating into its vitals, she would have made Tamil Nadu the springboard for all the progressive plans she has enumerated in her Party's manifesto.

I would earnestly appeal to her to drop the idea of shifting the secretariat all the way back to Fort St. George, because this will be seen as having been undertaken merely to show who's the boss.

She commands respect, and even a degree of fear, as an efficient, effective and result-oriented leader who cannot be trifled with. She does not need gimmicks to impress with her authority. The spacious and elegantly designed new secretariat had been serving the purposes of the Government and the people well enough.

PRICELESS ASSET

As regards West Bengal, Ms Mamata Banerjee's topmost priorities are industrialisation and infrastructure.

One of her great advantages is the large number of public figures of competence and calibre from business, industry, administration and police whom she had put up as candidates.

They have all won, and their contribution to the making and implementation of policies as Ministers and advisers is bound to give her Government a flying start.

Of all the political leaders in India and elsewhere, there is none who comes anywhere near her in knowing the heartbeat of the people and the enormous standing she has as a mass leader, almost in the image of Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru. This will be a priceless asset in taking the State forward.

In sum, any government that comes to power in India now and in the future will ignore at its own peril the clanging of the alarm bells of the revolution of rising expectations of the people who are in no mood any more to tolerate nonsense from ruling circles

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/columns/b-s-raghavan/article2023878.ece

muthu_krish

May 16th, 2011, 10:04 PM

^^ ... rightly said...yes people voted for a change - real better changes to their daily life but not for change of secretariat and legislative assembly....

Subra

May 16th, 2011, 10:14 PM

^^ ... rightly said...yes people voted for a change - real better changes to their daily life but not for change of secretariat and legislative assembly....

People are voting for change every 5 years hoping some one will be good. Govt is alternating every 5 years. Some politicians are thinking only for 5 years because they will be booted out any way. So why not loot as much as possible within 5 years.:)

Mr.Nellai

May 16th, 2011, 10:22 PM

No. I have friends in media

apadiye unga media friends kitta adutha namitha padam eppo release nu kettu sollunga sir:)

muthu_krish

May 16th, 2011, 11:12 PM

Some politicians are thinking only for 5 years because they will be booted out any way. So why not loot as much as possible within 5 years.:)

Then it will be better to construct a new secretariat in another 1200 crores instead of moving back to the St.George Fort... :lol:

muthu_krish

May 16th, 2011, 11:17 PM

No. I have friends in media

Dont say they work for 'Dhina Anjal' as in KO.... jus kidding!

kongutamizhan

May 16th, 2011, 11:44 PM

apadiye unga media friends kitta adutha namitha padam eppo release nu kettu sollunga sir:)

Namitha padam venumna inga (http://www.indiaglitz.com) iilana DVD-la parunga.

aatchi, cabinet ellam marunadha munnittu, Namithava en manasukullara irukara cabinet andhasthilendhu thookittu vera yarukkavathu padhavi kudukallamnu irukken. Idea kudunga :)

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 12:43 AM

Namitha padam venumna inga (http://www.indiaglitz.com) iilana DVD-la parunga.

aatchi, cabinet ellam marunadha munnittu, Namithava en manasukullara irukara cabinet andhasthilendhu thookittu vera yarukkavathu padhavi kudukallamnu irukken. Idea kudunga :)

Ayoo:shocked: nalaiku ithan headlines " KT namithavai kalatti vittar" :lol:

BTW, ipothaiku namithava vitta antha edatha fill panrathukku aale illai.:) aana eppadiyum namma kolywood pakki payalunga engayavuthu thedi kunda, pushtiya oru figura thalittu vanthuruvanga - kalla kattanumla :)

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 02:30 AM

chennai never had good infrastructure to get all these growth..

the main thing is talented manpower (like u) have migrated/moved out from all these tier2/3 cities looooong bak and they r refusing to come bak and create the needed opps in these cities..

The first point is, sarangi pointed out as "abundant resources" include the man power.

I came out of my city for my higher studies:) But, if someone has his/ her office in their own city, then what is the necessity for he/ she to migrate out of the city:). Regarding creating opportunities, what do you mean by creating opportunities? can you explain that?

If i have a world class univ for my higher studies, oh athellam romba overu :), atleast an ordinary univ in my field of specialization . Then i don't find any valid reason to migrate out of my own city. Not only me, even those who migrated out for job purposes would return back :).

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 02:42 AM

The answer is quite simple and it also reflects what Debendranath Sarangi (Chief Secretary / Chairman Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation Ltd) said, the resources are abundant, but the lack of infrastructure is what make companies to think about investing in nanguneri SEZ.

you have to tell... and u have told the answer...
reg Sarangi's point

Sarangi appointed as chief secretary

Yesterday only we spoke about him, what a coincidence!

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krishnaswamy

May 17th, 2011, 03:02 AM

Modi, Chandrababu Naidu, D.Raja to be part of the function. Seems that Gap10 also came... Hope Amma joins BJP alliance.. But she said sonia talked to her.. enna nadakuthune puriala..
simple: as long as cong is in power,she will tend to go with them since TN needs power..but the moment, central election come..she will take her chance to go with BJP or 3rd front...
IMO, we may be having election for center in Dec 2011 or May 2012...

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 03:04 AM

simple: as long as cong is in power,she will tend to go with them since TN needs power..but the moment, central election come..she will take her chance to go with BJP or 3rd front...
IMO, we may be having election for center in Dec 2011 or May 2012...

Let's see what the tea party has in store for us :cheers:

rendu pen'galum enna pesikkirangonu kalignar than parka mattaru. That condition is not for us...

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 03:13 AM

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 03:14 AM

First day as CM, seven schemes launched

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Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 03:19 AM

Works underway in St.George fort

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Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 03:30 AM

Traffic blockade

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kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 04:00 AM

This (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/agilqm) article the sample of atrocities of our previous government and how small business owners were impacted.

G Gowtham

மாத சம்பளம் வாங்குபவர்களுக்குத் தெரிந்திருக்க நியாயமில்லை என்னைப் போன்ற சொந்தத் தொழில் செய்பவர்களுக்கு கடந்தகால கொடுங்கோல் ஆட்சியாளர்களால் / அவர்களது குடும்பக்கிளை வானரங்களால் / அவர்களது கைத்தடிகளால்.. இழைக்கப்பட்ட கொடுமைகள்! நேரில் சந்தித்தால் நிறைய பட்டியலிடுவேன்.. ஒரே ஒரு உதாரணத்தை மட்டும் இங்கே சொல்கிறேன்.

திடுதிப்பென்று ஒருநாள் மதுரையில் இருந்து போன்.. “அண்னன் அ’னாதான் உங்ககிட்ட பேசச்சொன்னார். நீங்க என்ன பண்றிங்கன்னா.. உடனே ஒரு இருபது லட்ச ரூபாய மதுரை ஐ.என்.ஜி.வைஸ்யா பேங்க்ல ஃபிக்சட் டெபாசிட் பண்ணிடுங்க.. என்ன புரியுதா?” என்று மிரட்டியது ஒரு கைத்தடி!

நான் பத்திரிகையாளன் என்ற பின்புலமெல்லாம் அவர்களுக்குத் தெரியாது. நிர்வாண தேசத்தில் கோவணம் கட்டிக்கொண்டிருப்பது ஆபத்தாயிற்றே! பார்க்க வேண்டியவர்களைப் பார்த்து - கொடுக்க வேண்டியதைக் கொடுத்துத்தான் - செய்து கொண்டிடுக்கும் தொழிலைத் தொடர்ந்து காப்பாற்றிக் கொண்டாக வேண்டும்!

அப்படி ஒருமுறை பார்க்க நேர்ந்தபோது மொபைல் நம்பரை வாங்கிக் குறித்துக் கொண்டார்கள். அண்ணன் அ’னா சொன்னார்.. சு’னா சொன்னார் என அடிக்கடி பேசலானார்கள்!

ஃபிக்சட் டெபாசிட் மேட்டர் என்னடா விவரம் என விசாரித்தால்.. ஐ.என்.ஜி.வைஸ்யா வங்கியின் மதுரை கிளைக்கு ஒரே மாதத்தில் 30 கோடி ரூபாய் டெபாசிட் வாங்கித் தருவதாக அண்ணன் அ’னா உறுதிகூறி, அதற்கான கமிஷன் தொகையாக பல கோடி ரூபாயை முன்கூட்டியே வாங்கிக்கொண்டாராம்! உள்ளூரில் தொழில் செய்யும் எல்லோரையும் அதட்டி - உருட்டி - மிரட்டியே அந்த 30 கோடி ரூபாயை டெபாசிட் பண்ண வைத்தார்கள். கடனை உடனை வாங்கி ஃபிக்சட் டெபாசிட் செய்தார்கள் அப்பாவிகள் பலரும்.

அந்த அளவுக்கு அராஜகம் தலைவிரித்து ஆட்டம் ஆடிய மதுரையில் உதிக்காத சூரியன் ஒரு சீட்டைக்கூட பிடிக்காமல் மண்ணைக் கவ்வியது என்போன்ற சொந்தத் தொழில் செய்பவர்களுக்கெல்லாம் தவுசன்வாலா பட்டாசு வெடித்துக் கொண்டாட வேண்டிய சந்தோஷம்.

தி.மு.க. மீண்டும் ஆறாவது முறையாக ஆட்சிக்கு வரவேண்டும் என அடம்பிடித்துக் குரல் கொடுத்த - ப்ரஃபைல் படத்திலேயே உதய சூரியனைப் போட்டுக்கொண்டு வடம் பிடித்த இணைய நண்பர்களுக்கெல்லாம் அன்போடு ஒன்றைச் சொல்லிக் கொள்கிறேன்.. தலைவலியும் காய்ச்சலும் தனக்கு வந்தால்தான்யா தெரியும்! இந்தமுறையும் அவனுக ஆட்சிக்கு வந்திருந்தானுங்கன்னா தமிழ் நாட்டை அந்த ஆண்டவானால மட்டுமில்லை.. எவனாலயும் காப்பாத்தியிருக்க முடியாது!

Sampathkumar

May 17th, 2011, 04:52 AM

Traffic blockade

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Chennai people must live with this type of traffic for another five years...

Enjoy Chennaites..:lol::lol:

krishnaswamy

May 17th, 2011, 04:58 AM

2 months back, BJP President Nithin Kadgari meet Rajni...
now Modi meets him...
what is going on...? BJP is struggling in TN...
After 2 yrs Rajni in BJP?

krishnaswamy

May 17th, 2011, 05:01 AM

Chennai people must live with this type of traffic for another five years...

Enjoy Chennaites..:lol::lol:
Nope..this is not her fault..
chennai Traffic police and Chennai police are not prepared.
She gave instruction not to block the traffic...
So there was chaos...
2001 to 2006 was much better than 1991 to 1996..
lets hope for the best..

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 05:04 AM

Lost VIP's / வீழ்ந்த பெரும் தலைகள்

Source (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/05/14/veerapandi-arumugam-is-worst-affected-losers-aid0091.htm)

Indha list-kku kooda namma Thangabalu worthless aagitara, avaru pera illai :lol:

murlee

May 17th, 2011, 05:59 AM

2 months back, BJP President Nithin Kadgari meet Rajni...
now Modi meets him...
what is going on...? BJP is struggling in TN...
After 2 yrs Rajni in BJP?

Interesting!!!

muthu_krish

May 17th, 2011, 06:55 AM

Security reduced at secretariat, the site spots like a park with people relaxing and.... :lol:

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Now a PIL against the Govt's decision to move the secretariat... At-least a chance to hear the Govt's sensible reason (if there is one) behind this move!

SSCaddict

May 17th, 2011, 08:43 AM

Rise of petrol price - not related to central government - Pranab....

how shamelessly they make statements like above?

well IMO this is true..

if crude reaches above $100 you cannot subsidise petrol.. we have many other work to do like creating infra,healthcare spending etc rather than give subsidy to petrol... in UK the rates are Rs 105 and in singapore Rs 80... so we will have to live with these prices.. if you want to blame then blame the US fed which is pumping billions of dollars into the system that is making commodities expensive day by day...

dhandapanik

May 17th, 2011, 08:48 AM

பதில் இல்லாத சில கேள்விகள்
ஞாநியின் வேதனை கேள்வி

கனிமொழியின் வக்கீல் ராம்ஜெத்மலானி, ராசாவை வேண்டுமானால் ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் சதிகாரர் என்று சொல்லலாமே தவிர தன் கட்சிக்காரருக்கு ஒரு தொடர்பும் இல்லை என்று நீதிமன்றத்தில் வாதிட்ட அதே நாளில் அதே மன்றத்தில் ராசா, கருணாநிதியின் மகள் கனிமொழியின் தாயார் ராசாத்தி அம்மாளின் காலைத் தொட்டு வணங்கிய செய்தி படிக்க வேதனையாக இருந்தது. ஸ்பெக்ட்ரம் விஷயத்தில் ஒரு முறைகேடும் நடக்கவில்லை என்று வாதிடும் தி.மு.க கட்சி சார்பில் கனிமொழி, ராசா இரு வருக்காகவும் வாதாட ஒரே வக்கீலாக ராம்ஜெத்மலானியை நியமித்திருக்கலாமே? ஏன் செய்யவில்லை?

தொடர் ராஜினாமாக்கள்
கலைஞர், தங்கபாலு ராஜினாமாக்கள் சரி, ஏன் இவர்கள் ராஜினாமா செய்தார்கள் ?

1. சின்னத்திரை தயாரிப்பாளர் சங்கத் தலைவர் பொறுப்பிலிருந்து குஷ்பு
2. பெப்ஸி தலைவர் குகநாதன் ராஜினாமா
3. தமிழ் திரைப்பட தயாரிப்பாளர் சங்க தலைவர் பதவியில் இருந்து ராம.நாராயணன்
இவர்கள் சொன்ன காரணம் தான் சூப்பர் 'பர்சனல் வேலை, புதிய படபிடிப்பு..." ஒருவரும் திமுக தோல்வியினால் என்று சொல்லவில்லை. நல்லா நடிக்கிறாங்கப்பா

கொசு தொல்லை

1. பா.ஜ., தமிழக துணைத் தலைவர் பதவியில் இருந்து, எச்.ராஜா ராஜினாமா செய்தார் - தேர்தல் தோல்வி எதிரொலியாம்.

2. 'தி.மு.க.வின் சாதனைகளுக்கு வாக்காளர்களிடமிருந்து கிடைத்த பரிசுதான் தேர்தல் தோல்வி' கி.வீரமணி அறிக்கை

ஓபன் டாக்

1. யார் வேண்டுமானாலும் திரைப்படம் தயாரிக்கும் நிலை வர வேண்டும்
முதல்-அமைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கு, தங்கர்பச்சான் கோரிக்கை.

2. புதிய தலைமை செயலகத்தை மாற்றக்கூடாது - டாக்டர் ராமதாஸ் அறிக்கை

அப்படியா ?
முன்னாள் அமைச்சர் ஒருவரின் தொகுதியில் ஏறத்தாழ 10,000 வாக்காளர்களுக்கு, அதுவும் தாழ்த்தப்பட்ட வகுப்பைச் சேர்ந்த ஏழை வாக்காளர்களுக்கு, டோக்கன் வழங்கப்பட்டு மாவட்டத் தலைநகரிலுள்ள ஷோரூமிலிருந்து டிவிஎஸ் 50 இலவசமாக எடுத்துச் செல்லும்படி பணித்தார்கள். எட்டே எட்டுபேர் மட்டும்தான், டிவிஎஸ் 50 எடுத்துச் சென்றார்கள். ஏனையோர் அந்த டோக்கனைக் கிழித்துப் போட்டுவிட்டு வாக்களித்திருக்கிறார்கள்.

ஜெயலலிதா மண்டபத்தில் பதவியேற்கும் விழாவில் கந்துக்கொண்ட பிரவீன் குமாரை பல அதிமுக தொண்டர்கள் காலில் விழுந்து வணங்கினார்கள். இதை தடுத்த அவரது மனைவியை "சும்மா இருங்க" என்று கடிந்துக்கொண்டு பிறகு அவர் மனைவி என்று தெரிந்த பின்னர் அவர் காலிலும் விழுந்தாகளாம் !

Source: Idlyvadai (http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/05/blog-post_17.html)

dhandapanik

May 17th, 2011, 08:56 AM

Just went to TN government website to see whether it is updated with latest information(Atleast for CM)..

CM name in this link (http://www.tn.gov.in/govt_aboutTN.html) is updated with Amma name. But When you click on "Selvi J Jayalalithaa" link it takes you to this (http://www.tn.gov.in/gov_cm.html) page where it still has the information about Mu.Ka. :lol:

dhandapanik

May 17th, 2011, 09:08 AM

kg4129

May 17th, 2011, 09:09 AM

^^believe, some one reads Dhandapani post and corrected in TN government website

Arul Murugan

May 17th, 2011, 10:27 AM

why thatha has not yet opened his mouth on present gvt arrogance in shifting the assembly?

Even dmk mouth piece media have also not questioned it. Interesting!!!

venkatm

May 17th, 2011, 10:55 AM

See the guy sitting with just a banian on the steps. very soon, they will start eating, shitting and spitting and make it like CMBT. Need to whack anyone who has intent of doing any of the above

murlee

May 17th, 2011, 11:59 AM

Looks like a PIL has been filed in the court challenging the shifting of secretariat!! Any guesses what will happen??

Subra

May 17th, 2011, 12:26 PM

why thatha has not yet opened his mouth on present gvt arrogance in shifting the assembly?

Even dmk mouth piece media have also not questioned it. Interesting!!!

Pesi onnum aha povathilla:) Ellam avan seyal!

Mr.Nellai

May 17th, 2011, 12:31 PM

Congress won in 5 constituencies because of BJP :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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tn2usa

May 17th, 2011, 01:20 PM

Having Caste Name part of Name

Felt this is the right place to discuss this sort of issues.

Whether people are castiest or not depends on their thinking, their upbringing and other such factors. Putting caste name alone doesn't mean a person dislike other caste people. If we ban putting caste names, will people forget who is who? Will discrimination against different castes (particularly in rural India) disappear? In North India, a lot of people have dropped caste names but I don't think caste feeling is any less there. What matters is how a person thinks and how important caste is for him. The thing that can really reduce caste's importance is urbanization along with white and blue collar organized sector employment.

But yes I too agree with your vision.

Cosmicbliss,

Name of a person influence a Lot about his thinking , action.

Please see this link when you get some time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7312412.stm

The research was conducted by a british scientist involving 6000 cases and he says

"People walk around with stereotypes in their heads that can influence all sorts of decisions, yet don't even realise it, says psychologist Richard Wiseman, who conducted the research. "

--tn2usa

murlee

May 17th, 2011, 01:50 PM

MDMK against discarding new Assembly complex

The Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam on Tuesday urged the J. Jayalalithaa-led government not to dump the new Secretariat-Assembly complex that is still under construction, saying it was being built from taxpayers’ money.

“If the government decides to function from Fort St. George, rejecting buildings (being) constructed on taxpayers’ money, a question arises if the same fate would apply to other structures such as court complexes and Collectors’ offices built by erstwhile governments,” a resolution passed in the meeting of party’s parliamentary board and district secretaries said.

While holding that the construction of the structure was taken up in “haste” and one which had exceeded the cost estimates, the party however insisted taxpayers’ money was being used to fund its construction.

“It is not acceptable to change the Assembly. It should continue in the same building,” the resolution said.

The new Secretariat-Assembly complex was inaugurated last year by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in the presence of United Progressive Alliance chairperson Sonia Gandhi.

Budget sessions were held in the sprawling Assembly building but the new Secretariat is yet to completely house all departments.

Ms. Jayalalithaa, the then Leader of the Opposition, has vowed not to step into the structure, dismissing the aesthetics and design of the building.

MDMK members passed a resolution that the newly elected AIADMK government should focus on solving issues such as inter-State water disputes involving Kerala and Karnataka.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/...cle2026305.ece

Arul Murugan

May 17th, 2011, 02:13 PM

Pesi onnum aha povathilla:) Ellam avan seyal!

yaru antha avan? u mean rasa?

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How BJP got so much votes in Hosur and Pattukottai? Looks Hosur have KA BJP effect?

we can consider Congress got zero. This is an historical defeat for them!! But because of this congress DMK has lost its vote share for past 10years.

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kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 02:15 PM

why thatha has not yet opened his mouth on present gvt arrogance in shifting the assembly?

Even dmk mouth piece media have also not questioned it. Interesting!!!

Thathavukku padhavila irundhapavae kudumba kavalai than mukkiyama pattichi. Now he has one more reason for it.

BTW another scoop. Stalin wanted to meet and congratulate aatha and talk about assembly. Perisu is against it, but Stalin is adament.

murlee

May 17th, 2011, 02:21 PM

Thathavukku padhavila irundhapavae kudumba kavalai than mukkiyama pattichi. Now he has one more reason for it.

BTW another scoop. Stalin wanted to meet and congratulate aatha and talk about assembly. Perisu is against it, but Stalin is adament.

See... I love Stalin!!

P.S: KT sir.. unga media links reliable ah?? If yes, this could be the best thing to have happened to TN.. A constructive opposition rather than criticize or oppose everything kinda opposition parties!!

muthu_krish

May 17th, 2011, 02:45 PM

BTW another scoop. Stalin wanted to meet and congratulate aatha and talk about assembly. Perisu is against it, but Stalin is adament.

I wish your scoop news is true... if it happens it will be the best thing that can happen in the politics of TN... we need something like this to happen in the age of Vadivelu vs Gap10 politics....

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 02:52 PM

See... I love Stalin!!

P.S: KT sir.. unga media links reliable ah?? If yes, this could be the best thing to have happened to TN.. A constructive opposition rather than criticize or oppose everything kinda opposition parties!!

Well it's not just Stalin. This time Jaya invited them for swearing-in too (which thatha didn't do last time). Even post-Tsunami Stalin went to Jaya to hand over cheque. This dealing between Stalin and aatha is going on for a while...

My sources email me few things and tweet few (or say some while we talk). Whatever they tweet is verified (which is what I post here). Anything that is in email is speculative. I post those too with adjectives "Not sure" etc :)

Subra

May 17th, 2011, 03:21 PM

kannan infratech

May 17th, 2011, 03:45 PM

@ Political Atmosphere:

In Delhi, I have seen Congress & BJP MPs fighting tooth & nail inside parliament hall but going together to canteen for coffee or later to club for a drink. Many times, they do business deals together also.

Natrasimha Rao & Vajpayee were best of friends. Vajpayee has acknowledged that but for PVN's suggestion, he could not have gone for Pokhran II.

All opposition parties attend the swearing in ceremony and they joke and laugh together.

(After Sonia's entry, this has reduced a bit as she shuns a few deliberately and her chamchas take a cue)

In TN, Rajaji was a sort of mentor to EVR Periyar initially in Congress. Even after EVR left Congress and started DK, they were very close on a personal level. EVR despite his ill health, participated in Rajaji's funeral and cried like a baby in public.

After DMK was started, the civility took a dive. They ridiculed Congress & Kamaraj in particular in unspeakable terms in public. DK of Veeramani variety spoke so vulgarly in public

MGR (after AIADMK birth) & Karuna were ok if not chummies. At least they were courteseous to each other. All major decisions were taken only after consultation with the opposition.

But after MGR, this has taken a plunge. Even in marriage functions of a common friend, DMK & AIADMK leaders avoid each other. DMK has converted even the wedding stages to political stages. JJ may not even understand what these guys say in siledai (Double meaning).

She uses her ego & arrogance to keep people off her. I feel that she uses them as a form of protection from the arrogant party cadres / opposition.

These party guys try all psychopancy to get her attention. Sometimes, it can reach comic / untolerable levels.

She lacks political diplomacy and is many times blunt and to the point. This earns her lots of enemies.

She has to reach out to CG now since TN depends on CG for fund flows to tide over the current financial crisis.

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 03:46 PM

Vaiko is a sane person and very different among the current brand of politicians. He should be given a chance in the future.

+1. Looks like we are agreeing on many things nowadays :)

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 04:22 PM

^^ Hope you also address the personal bashing and forum rowdism / goondaism tactics followed by few folks here when they don't agree to an opinion

kannan infratech

May 17th, 2011, 04:23 PM

@ Forumers (mainly KT) against Chennai bias in development:

I think that our forumers are getting out of control in this issue.

If anyone is seriously concerned, please come back to your roots and start something there or try to bring development to one's region.

Simply shouting in this forum wastes lots of costly server space.

It is a mistaken notion that if Govt wants, then any region can be developed in a jiffy. Gone are those days when all developments were done by only the Govt.

There is some truth / weight in the argument that Govt policies act as a catalyst / deterrent for development of a particular region. For eg; Cotton policy has a direct bearing on Coimbatore based mills.

Coimbatore was thriving but after the Bomb Blast took a nose dive. But now developing at a faster pace. I had earlier written in detail to Kongu's post on L&T etc bringing development to Coimbatore.

Each city has some inherent advantages and some disadvantages. The development is directly in relation to these. Govt's role is minimal here. Coastal & River towns always have a slight advantage for centuries.

But we also have places called Sivakasi & Tiruppur - very arid hot & dry areas - where the development has taken place despite the Govt. Govt's wrong policies in both these places have affected them, I agree. But they will bounce back, I am sure.

I have been working with various Development & consultancy organisations for the development of TN esp south TN. People cry hoarse about Tidel Park & IT business in Madurai. How many companies came forward to start in Madurai. As far as Land Bank is concerned, all biggies were interested. But nothing more than that. Madurai is not yet ready for IT revolution. Let us accept that. IT is not the only sector. It is more glamarous. Thats all.

The best bet for South TN is Tuticorin Port. That will drive South TN development upto Madurai.

Trichy has many inherent disadvantages. The criss crossing rivers / canals were boon during the earlier Agri dominated economy. But now, it turns out to be a bane. I have been involved in providing a comprehensive Sewerage Treatment for the Trichy city. But it is technically very challenging. BHEL was the best that have happened to Trichy. But I remember Trichy people blaming BHEL for all the price rise and troubles at that time. PSUs were considered as Groth hubs those times. But now it is Private sector which has to come up.

Please tell me why all the SIDCO, SIPCOT estates are lying vacant except a very few.? Every body wants a cushy job and trouble free life but blame the Govt of the day for all the ills of the society. What we have done to counter the same (except shouting in these forums).

How many of us have visited the other side of the table in the Govt offices and understand the system? What we have done to counter the system?

Please do not immediately compare US / Europe with India. We will reach nowhere. We have a long way to go, provided if we wet our shoes by jumping in. Otherwise, there is not even a way.

Any state can not sustain if only the state capital is developed. But being the state capital will have an inherent advantage. But please understand that the state capital serves as the initial gateway for the entire state.

If Chennai has a pleasant eco system for investors, the investors will be come. Once they are happy and come out of their initial perceptions, the next step will be Tier 2 & Tier 3 cities.

TN has a huge coastal belt and that will be the area to watch in the future.

MY humble request to all the forumers is NOT to waste forum space and others time by simply arguing to & fro, city vs city etc.

If you have good ideas to contribute for the development of your area, please write about the same. We will try to take the same to authorities if found good & viable.

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 04:30 PM

^^ Hope you also address the personal bashing and forum rowdism / goondaism tactics followed by few folks here when they don't agree to an opinion

kannan infratech

May 17th, 2011, 04:33 PM

^^ Hope you also address the personal bashing and forum rowdism / goondaism tactics followed by few folks here when they don't agree to an opinion

Please PM me with details.

If there is a violation (by Forum Rules), action will be taken.

Raji7373

May 17th, 2011, 05:04 PM

BTW another scoop. Stalin wanted to meet and congratulate aatha and talk about assembly. Perisu is against it, but Stalin is adament.

Amazing ...wonderful !!!! Best thing to happen for TN politics ever :cheers::cheers:

But I did not read this news anywhere...

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 05:10 PM

Amazing ...wonderful !!!! Best thing to happen for TN politics ever :cheers::cheers:

But I did not read this news anywhere...

Because it's not news yet :)

I'll check with them if it's okay to let others know of their Twitter ID so that you can all follow too. I think their tweets are public and any one can, but just wanted to make sure before giving that out. (I have mentioned their blogs here before)

gnams

May 17th, 2011, 05:20 PM

Please PM me with details.

If there is a violation (by Forum Rules), action will be taken.

Kannan,

it is me whom he is referring to... it was one of the discussions reg. power cut issue in chennai discussions thread ...

i still hope whatever questions i asked are never personal bashing.. when i asked him to stop anti-chennai feeling postings, he sarcastically criticised me as kiddo which irked me..

pls go thro the pages and take action against me if you feel i have violated the rules..

but still i hope all my questions are valid...
i was linking whatever we are suffering in chennai and asking him whether u have suffered all these ... and asked him to come here and then talk. (which u urself had asked in ur post telling them to come to their roots and do something...i appreciate that)

so, why to go PM and all... pls go thro the pages and take action against me.

and the words personal bashing / rowdyism and all uncalled words.

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM

^^ Let him go thru and decide. In the mean-time to your questions whether I faced all those issues, you are talking as if I was born in Swizerland, brought up in Germany and living in US now (of-course the last one is correct) :lol:

Anyways peace, I don't want to discuss further. My opinion still stands that our government's policies are Chennai centric. You don't have to get emotional about it or agree to it, you have every right to think otherwise.

This is my final statement regarding this. Like Kannan said government policies did affect growth out of TN. At the sametime I agree that local enterpreneurship matters. Western TN has plenty of it which is kind of self sufficient to some extent. To grow beyond it is where governments role is important. Outside CBE and Chennai it's even worse and they definitely need our SG's helping hand compared to us. That's all I wanted to say.

Like I said ChennaiIndian before Chennai is very much mine as CBE is yours. So equating Chennai-centric policy to anti-chennai is not fair. And asking me to come to CBE without even knowing who I am and what I do to my city, it's like intruding into my personal space and I don't like it and it's not cool.

gnams

May 17th, 2011, 05:56 PM

^^
Like I said ChennaiIndian before Chennai is very much mine as CBE is yours. So equating Chennai-centric policy to anti-chennai is not fair. And asking me to come to CBE without even knowing who I am and what I do to my city, it's like intruding into my personal space and I don't like it and it's not cool.

yeah, you got the point....
thats wat i said, posting all news which contains chennai in it and posting a sarcastic comments beside it that too in chennai discussions forum which is a forum for discussing chennai related issues is like intruding into my personal space since i was following that forum for infrastructure related discussions for many years and consider it as my stress-buster...
if u want to discuss the issues , TN arattai arangam is ther... thats wat i said.. and there is nothign wrong in my asking u to come bak... in one another post i told Nellai also the same...
CBE, thirunelveli all districts need talented resources like u...
a city's success mainly depends on its human resources..
thats is the indirect reason why i asked u to come bak here and then start ur discussions..

yes i know ur born n brought up in india only... but my point was none of the tier-2 or even 3 cities are suffering like its metro counter parts...
life for an ordinary middle class person is very difficult in a metro than any other tier 2/3 cities...
so, obvously u shud have experienceed lesser difficulties... thats wat my point was..

i never intrude any persons personal space rather u took it everythign personally..
as an indian citizen, as an ordianry indian who has expereinced all inequalities , i have the right to ask all NRI's/PIOs to come bak to india and serve here and create the opportunities here so that the future generation doesnt suffer as i/we suffered.

if u want to uinderstand abt inequalities, PM me ur email id, i can elaborate on that...
for one simple example, how come u r able to get convent education and me not.. (dont take this also personally.. am just asking on behalf of a simple person who will be longing on seeing others getting what he cud nt)
so, as an affected indian citizen, i have the right to ask you all to come bak here and createe the opps here...it is not intruding a persons personal space.
thats wat even Kannan did.

KSRaj

May 17th, 2011, 06:13 PM

Hi Kannan,

Well said - especially that Govt is now a facilitator! Let me add some of my points:

- It would be better if all the Tier-II cities not to aim for only one industry - namely IT
- There is nothing wrong in each city specializing in one area - CBE - Mfg/IT, Trichy - Fabrication etc.
- SIDCO estates are rather viewed as pieces of land for lucrative real estate projects rather than helping small enterpreneurs; they should be encouraged to start small businesses.
- Govt should strive to create jobs in Agri and non-manufacturing areas as well - which should reduce the rampant migration happening within the state.
- Whether Govt promotes Tier-II cities or not, it should definitely bring some investments into backward or non-agri districts like Ramnad, Pudukkottai, etc.

Real development is way beyond real estate or infrastructure - it is about good quality of life whether in a less-developed village or a metro.

Cheers,
Raj

kongutamizhan

May 17th, 2011, 06:20 PM

for one simple example, how come u r able to get convent education and me not.. (dont take this also personally.. am just asking on behalf of a simple person who will be longing on seeing others getting what he cud nt)
so, as an affected indian citizen, i have the right to ask you all to come bak here and createe the opps here...it is not intruding a persons personal space.
thats wat even Kannan did.

Kannan saying it doesn't mean that it's correct :)

FYI settling down in India is not the only way to contribute. NRI's played huge role in our IT success story than what our government did. Person-to-person interaction with other countries at individual level matters and the work discipline that we all show here also helped to form an image of our country and hence the success. Don't underestimate it. I am in a position to influence and create or award jobs and contracts to India that includes companies from Chennai. You need people on both sides without compromising on the interests of the country that you live in and the passion for your state / hometown.

Anyways let's stop here and PM me if you want to continue

gnams

May 17th, 2011, 06:49 PM

Kannan saying it doesn't mean that it's correct :)

FYI settling down in India is not the only way to contribute. NRI's played huge role in our IT success story than what our government did. Person-to-person interaction with other countries at individual level matters and the work discipline that we all show here also helped to form an image of our country and hence the success. Don't underestimate it. I am in a position to influence and create or award jobs and contracts to India that includes companies from Chennai. You need people on both sides without compromising on the interests of the country that you live in and the passion for your state / hometown.

Anyways let's stop here and PM me if you want to continue

that was the biggest joke i cud have heard this year...

so, who is an NRI and how he got all those talents and what he created for fellow indians here..thats wat my question is?

wat, on seeing ur discipline at workplace helped to build the image of our country?

are these words told from ur heart or mind?

tell from heart, on seeing whose talent and discipline , our india's image was built??

even if it is NRI's , who are all those NRI's ? non resident INDIANS.. rite?
from where they got all those discipline, professionalism and talents etc etc...

yu got them from here...and how ?? now think abt those inequalitites which i said?

and now talk, waht opps u have influnced and created for fellow indianswithin india? (this is not for you but for all those disciplined NRIs)

are te 1.5 lakh opps created by narayana murthy are bigger or those created by u?

are the opps created by Ashok soota bigger or the ones by u ?
are the opps created by TVS/Tata motors/Ashok leyland created bigger or those by u?

so, my questions naturaly exposed u and u took hiding behind the screen telling i am displaying rowdyism/goondaism

what kinda rowdyism/goondaism i displayed
what kinda unprofessionalism i displyed?
u cant tell because now u want to escape by telling lets stop here

first of all , did u vote in this election?
or atleast in 2006 election?
or at least in 2001/2004 election?
dont tell me u were in US... if so, i am ready to show u N no of guys who came here to vote and be a part of democratic process.

for urgency, just google, u will find a news paper report no april 12th / 11th which was telling how many keralitess returned to kerala's airport to vote on april 13th...

so, when u told CBE wasnt developeed,, CBE wasnt getting roads, sakkadais/...

have u ever reached out to the govt for asking why this has not been done?
(dont tell u emailed ur media friends/tweeted with patriotism)

or atelast did u talk with ur ward councillor why roasd was not being laid/sakkadai was notr being formed?

tell me how u have been part of this great democratic process of India and then i will tell u u r deserved person to ask those silly questions!!
(pls dont tell ur disciplined and infuncing jobs for india from there or remitting dollars into india)

wahtever questions i ask to u, the same questions will apply tomme also.. understand that... but for that am not cribing/criticising a particular city or its people by hiding behind a concept called govt is metro oriented...

this is india.. india will develop like this only...accept the fact..

if u can ask comparing Chennai, can i ask from a person who is from a village outside CBE who can tell CBE is growing but not my village...