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Supertalls
Discussions of projects under construction at least 300m/1,000 ft tall.

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Discussions of projects under construction between 200-299m/650-999ft tall.

Highrises
Discussions of projects under construction between 100-199m/300-649ft tall.

You have to disclose whether it was built under thatha or aatha rule so we know whom to give the credit. :lol:

None, it's built at Coimbatore under George W Bush Jr's rule (1st term). Foundation laid under Bill Clinton. But Bush made sure that the project is completed. Now whom should I give credit to? :)

Source:The NewIE, 17June2011

NEW DELHI: Two judges of the Supreme Court, who were scheduled to hear on Monday the bail plea of DMK MP Kanimozhi, an accused in the 2G spectrum allocation scam, today recused themselves from the hearing.


Instead, Justice G S Singhvi, whose bench has been monitoring the case, will hold a special hearing on Monday along with Justice B S Chauhan to decide the bail applications of Kanimozhi and Kalaignar TV Managing Director Sharad Kumar.


According to informed sources, Justices P Sathasivam and A K Patnaik conveyed their decision to recuse to Chief Justice of India S H Kapadia, following which he constituted another bench with Justice Singhvi.

Earlier in the day, CBI filed an affidavit in the apex court opposing the bail pleas of Kanimozhi and co-accused Sharad Kumar on the ground that if released, they could tamper with evidence and influence witnesses.

The investigating agency contended Kanimozhi and Kumar were key conspirators and Rs 200 crore transferred to Kalaignar TV was part of the "bribe" amount and not a loan as claimed by the accused.

The agency said since investigation into the 2G case is at an advanced stage, it will not be proper for the apex court to grant bail to the accused.

CBI submitted the special CBI court and later the Delhi High Court had carefully evaluated various material evidence and other factors to refuse bail to them.

The apex court had on June 13 asked CBI to explain where the Rs 200 crore, allegedly diverted to DMK-owned Kalaignar TV in 2G scam, has gone and also to file a response on their bail pleas in a week's time.

A bench of justices B S Chauhan and Swatanter Kumar had also asked CBI to come out with a status report on the loss to the state exchequer due to the award of 13 licences to one of the telecom operators and trial proceedings in the CBI special court.

Kanimozhi and Kumar had moved the apex court seeking bail on June 10 challenging the Delhi High Court verdict rejecting their bail on the ground that they have strong political connections and the possibility of them influencing witnesses cannot be ruled out.

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No way bail will come Kani's way if Singhvi hears the case.

Case potavar kitaye Jameen ketu nikka poraangala! sooper..

It is sad to learn Tamils indirectly helped genocide of Tamils. We should hang our heads in shame and stop such things proactively in future.

We can't let Ettaiyappans play with Tamils' lives again and again.

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Source: The NewIE, 18June2011

MADURAI: Some Inspectors and Deputy Superintendents of Police in Madurai, known for their ‘allegiance’ to the DMK, are reportedly lobbying extensively to be posted elsewhere.


Fearing that they would be forced to take action against the local bigwigs of the DMK, still smarting from its complete rout in the recently held Assembly elections, the police officials’ sole concern at the moment is not do anything that may antagonise the party functionaries. In fact, some have even stopped taking phone calls from DMK strongmen fearing that they might land in trouble.

The developments come amid the recent transfer of 500 constables, ordered by Superintendent of Police Asra Garg to check corruption in the police force.

The move is meant to ensure that the police personnel respond to all complaints after setting aside their vested interests, which they might have developed by working at the same station for several years. Many constables have been working in the same station for 10 years at a stretch without a transfer.

The other criterion taken into account was the integrity of the police personnel concerned. The files of all the constables were meticulously studied by the district police office before transfer orders were issued.

In case of corruption charges against a policeman, he was transferred to a place at least 100 km away from the present station. This was achieved by transferring personnel from one division to another. In all other cases, the constables were transferred to one of the three places they had requested.

In a similar drive, SIs and Special Sub-Inspectors have also been transferred in the district. Here also the same pattern was followed.
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TN is being cleaned like what happened in Bihar .....

Interesting facts abt Nehru & family

http://nehru-gandhi.blogspot.com/

The DMK Government's decision to encourage setting up of industries in Tamil Nadu has led to power shortage in the State during its 2006-11 regime, Party President and Former Chief Minister M Karunanidhi said today.

He stoutly denied Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa's charge in the State Assembly that the previous DMK Regime headed by him had not taken any steps to improve the power supply position in the State. In an epistle to party cadre, Mr Karunanidhi sought to turn the tables on the AIADMK and said due to non-commissioning of various power generation projects when the AIADMK was in power, the State faced power shortage during the 2006-11 DMK regime.

Listing out the various power projects launched during his tenure as Chief Minister, Mr Karunanidhi said because of the DMK's Government's initiative to launch several projects, the State would be free from power crisis in future. ''One can be definitely be sure that Tamil Nadu will be free from power shortage in future due to the various power projects launched by the DMK Regime,'' he said.:ohno:

''The AIADMK Regime might claim that because of the efforts made by it there was no power shortage in the State. I will always be happy if people get uninterrupted and quality power,'' he added. Referring to Ms Jayalalithaa's claim that Tamil Nadu remained a power cut-free State during her regime from 2001 to 2006, the DMK Chief sought to know whether there was no power cut when she ruled the State between 1991-96 and during the AIADMK Regime in 1982-84.

''Since the DMK, after coming to power in 2006, encouraged setting up of more industries, the state had to face a power crisis. "The state would have been free from power cuts if the DMK regime had not encouraged setting up industries," he said. ''Can there be a government that does not encourage industrial development?" he asked. Stating his government was forced to provide power to various new industries set up during his tenure, he said the approximate peak demand stood at 11,000 MW while the power production stood at 7,300 MW. :bash:

The DMK Chief said to tide over a shortage of 3,000 MW,all steps were taken by his regime in this regard by procuring 2,200 MW from power producers and power market. If the AIADMK Governments in the past had taken steps to improve the power production considering the future needs, the State would not have faced power crisis now, he added. Noting power cuts were in vogue in all the States and it was not restricted to Tamil Nadu alone, Mr Karunanidhi, quoting statistics, said Maharashtra was facing a shortage of 5200 MW, Uttar Pradesh (2384 MW), Kolkatta (1200 MW), Punjab (1500 MW), Gujrat (1570 MW), Karnataka (1120 MW), Andhra Pradesh (964 MW), Kerala (364 MW), Haryana (880 MW), Rajasthan (800 MW).

In Tamil Nadu the power shortage was 1178 MW, he said and added there had been load shedding for three hours on rotation basis both in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. Since there had been power cuts in various states, Tamil Nadu was not able to get power from them, he added. Noting that projects were initiated for generating 4183 MW of power during the DMK Regime, Mr Karunanidhi said after his party came to power in 2006, considering the future demand, his government had taken various measures to enusure power generation. Due to such steps, the State would get additional 1400 MW of power in 2010-11, 3315 MW in 2011-12, 1222 MW in 2012-13, 1860 MW in 2013-14.

''The DMK Government has taken steps to ensure that the State will get 7798 MW of power in the next four years by launching various power projects," he said.

^^ What a senseless comment.. Does he mean to say he is ok with power cuts all over as long as industrialization took place? A good govt must anticipate the problems and should have expedited the work of many power plants so that both demand and supply go hand-in-hand... These statements are mere excuses.

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Loyola survey


AIADMK won because of ifts welfare and developmental schemes

Surprisingly 94.4% voted in favor of shifting back the secretariat to St.George fort. But only 46% are in favor of agglomerating Anna Univs

81% supported the resolution passed by TN against Lanka and 69% feel that a separate Tamil eelam will be the only solution to Srilankan tamils. Also 68% people feel that lankan issue is responsible for congress defeat.



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surprised to see how come people welcomed shifting of the assembly!

and when this TASMAC timings was increased? ippadiyae pona 24*7 kadaiya open panni vepanga pola?:bash:

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Good one, Mr Nellai!

If thatha wanted to do something to stop the lankan army atrocities, he could have. He chose not to.

Not only thatha..infact no politician from ANY party will care unless there is some public pressure.
Our country only has some sort of Re-actionary leaders rather than Pro-Active leaders.

We cannot even call most of our so called leaders as true leadrs(But Crooks).
Very few leaders in India have long term vision like
Valla Bhai Patel,
Gandhi in his early years(I dont think Gandhi is practical in his
last years),
Narendra Modi,
To an extent Chandrababu Naidu,
Manmohan Singh(Only as a Finance minister, Leadership is 0 mark),
Kamarajar(Meals for students is a golden program, even if all other his works are proved wrong i will vote for him only for this Meals program for students)

Above all the person called Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya.

Just like oil and Cotton in a lamp expends its entire life for giving light this man had dedicated his entire life to
a single cause of starting an Indian Educational Institute(so that Indian youth wanting to pursue higher education
dont have to go London). That Institute Name is "Banaras Hindu University".

Madan Mohan Malaviya was trying to build a good university; he had to overcome many difficulties and barriers. He worked with great determination to start the university. There was a funds crisis; but he did not get disheartened. He went from town to town, met many rich people and traders to collect donations.

He went to the Nizam of Hyderabad to request him for funds. The Nizam was furious, 'How dare You come to me for funds and that too for a Hindu University? He roared with anger and took off his footwear and flung it at Malviya.

Malviya picked up the footwear and left silently. He came directly to the market place and began to auction the footwear. As it was the Nizam's footwear, many came forward to buy it. The price went up.

When Nizam heard of this, he became uneasy. He thought it would be an insult if his footwear were to be bought by someone for a pittance. So he sent one of his attendants with the instruction, 'Buy that footwear no matter what the bidding price be!'

Madan Mohan Malvia got what he came for, fund for educational institute. Every block, every wall in that university
is built with so many of such insults inspite of his deteriorating health.

Sad part is we cannot even find a single political leader of his caliber and determination today.

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headline above in tamizh:

Stalin makkal nattam palliyil LKG kattanam Rs 24 ayiram

Stalin children not sure schools LKG Rs 24,000?

Am in Bangalore now, slowly learning Kannada script. Seems tougher than Tamizh.

headline above in tamizh:

Stalin makkal nattam palliyil LKG kattanam Rs 24 ayiram

Stalin children not sure schools LKG Rs 24,000?

Am in Bangalore now, slowly learning Kannada script. Seems tougher than Tamizh.

Not 'makkal'. It is 'magal', which means daughter. The brief summary is that a school run by Stalin's daughter in Velachery has been allowed to charge Rs 24,000 for LKG and UKG as per the school fees commission report.

கேரளாவுக்கு மணல் கொண்டு செல்ல அரசு தடை விதிக்க வேண்டும்

Source: http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=260534

friends i want to have a meaningful discussion on this subject. i think one of the serious issue before TN or may be the most serious issue currently before TN is sand mining.

now sand which is taken from quarry is

1. used for construction activities in TN.

2. smuggled to kerala , karnataka and AP. now kerala has banned selling of sand to other states because they want to protect their rivers. karnataka has also banned selling of sand to other states to protect their rivers.

but why the TN govt is not able to do that. is their any hidden agenda for this. by banning the sale of sand to other states , there is lot of advantages and good for TN.

the prices of sand will come down. second our rivers and river beds will be protected.but why the govt is not doing that.

i seriously hope that the current TN govt will ban the sale of sand to other states. strengthen the patrol in checkpost bordering the state borders.

please tell me friends why the TN govt is not able to take a rigid stand on this issue.

^^

You are absoultely right! These KA/AP/KL lorries come all the way to TN to take the sands from TN rivers! They are into every nook and corner of TN rivers.

It is high time we must ban the sand transfer to other states. All the three states have more sand resource than TN....

Eletcricity Tamasha...

- CM requests Mr MNS to allot 1000 MW of power from Central Quota

- Tangedco floats tender for 450 MW power purchase

- Wind power producers allege that only 2900 MW out of 3400 MW of power produced is evacuated. 500 MW of green power is unused.

- TANGEDCO says now that demand has reduced and there is over production by 1000 MW...!!!!

Why all this confusion? Why there is power cut for 1 hour in Chennai and 3 hours in rest of TN and 30 percent cut for HT consumers??

Can anyone comprehend this planning mess by the Utility?

- They should establish a Central Contorl room with real time data on demand and production with computerised facilities for Data and Charting recording.

- Power Cut management decision should be left to the Control room in charge.

- Thermal and Gas based Stations should be programmed for automatic adjustment of load based on Grid frequency..Load down when frequency goes above 50cps and up when it is below 50.

- Since Wind Mills are unreliable source of Production and has the capacity to disturb the Grid Frequency wildly, any advanced systems available to even out fluctuation should be explored.

All these are purely Technical and decision making should be left to Engineers and IAS MD and JJ should keep out of day today management. The Chief Minister need not announce about Power cut and Dams sluice opening.

^^

You are absoultely right! These KA/AP/KL lorries come all the way to TN to take the sands from TN rivers! They are into every nook and corner of TN rivers.

It is high time we must ban the sand transfer to other states. All the three states have more sand resource than TN....

Arul any idea why the TN govt is thinking so much to ban the sale of sand to other states.. can anyone throw some light on this??

2G: SC rejects Kanimozhi, Kumar's bail plea


New Delhi: DMK MP Kanimozhi and Kalaignar TV MD Sharad Kumar will have to stay in New Delhi's Tihar Jail for some more time as the Supreme Court on Thursday rejected their bail petition. Kanimozhi and Kumar has been directed by the Supreme Court to go back to the trial court if she wants bail.

A special bench comprising of justices GS Singhvi and BS Chauhan rejected their bail petition after hearing the arguments of the Central Bureau of Investigation and (CBI) counsel and the duo's lawyers. The bench was set up after two judges hearing the case recused themselves on Friday.

This was the duo's third attempt to secure bail after the trial court and Delhi High Court had denied their petition earlier.


Happy now????????

திமுக கூட்டணியை காங்கிரஸ் உதற வேண்டும்: இளங்கோவன்

குடியாத்தம்: திமுக கூட்டணியிலிருந்து காங்கிரஸ் விலக வேண்டும் என்பதே பெரும்பாலான காங்கிரஸ் தொண்டர்களின் விருப்பமாக உள்ளது என்று முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சர் ஈ.வி.கே.எஸ். இளங்கோவன் கூறினார்.

நிருபர்களிடம் பேசிய அவர், அதிமுக ஆட்சியின் தொடக்கம் மிகவும் நன்றாக இருக்கிறது. கடந்த அதிமுக ஆட்சியின்போது இருந்த குறைகளை ஜெயலலிதா போக்கிக் கொள்வார் என நம்புகிறேன்.

ப. சிதம்பரம் வெற்றி குறித்து, ஜெயலலிதா கூறிய புகாருக்கு நான் கருத்து கூற முடியாது. ஏனென்றால் அதுதொடர்பான வழக்கு நீதிமன்றத்தில் உள்ளது.

திமுக கூட்டணியிலிருந்து காங்கிரஸ் உடனடியாக விலக வேண்டும் என்றே பெரும்பான்மையான தொண்டர்கள் நினைக்கின்றனர்.

வேறு கட்சிகளுடன் கூட்டணி என்று கட்சி மேலிடம் தெரிவிக்க வேண்டும். அவ்வாறு வேறு கட்சிகளுடன் கூட்டணி குறித்து மேலிடம் அறிவிக்கும் எந்த முடிவையும் ஏற்போம்.

திமுகவிலிருந்து விலகி உள்ளாட்சித் தேர்தலில் தனித்துப் போட்டியிட்டாலே காங்கிரஸ் பெரும்பான்மையான இடங்களை கைப்பற்றும். விஜயகாந்த் ஆக்கபூர்வமான எதிர்க் கட்சித் தலைவராக செயல்பட வேண்டும் என மக்கள் எதிர்பார்க்கிறார்கள். மக்கள் நம்பிக்கைக்கு ஏற்ப விஜயகாந்த் செயல்பட வேண்டும்.

2ஜி வழக்கில் சிபிஐ இரண்டு குற்றப் பத்திரிகைகள் தாக்கல் செய்துள்ளது. விரைவில் 3வது குற்றப் பத்திரிகையை தாக்கல் செய்ய உள்ளது. விரைவில் அந்த வழக்கு முடிந்து குற்றவாளிகள் தண்டிக்கப்பட வேண்டும். அதே வேளையில் குற்றவாளிகள் சேர்த்துள்ள கள்ளச் சொத்துகள் பறிமுதல் செய்யப்பட வேண்டும்.

கட்டுமானப் பணிகள் நிறைவு பெறாத நிலையில், அவசர கோலத்தில் அள்ளித் தெளித்த கதையாக புதிய தலைமைச் செயகலத்தின் திறப்பு விழா நடைபெற்றது. பிரதமர் அதைத் திறந்தபோதே திரைப்பட பாணியில் அங்கு அரங்கு அமைத்ததே அதற்குச் சான்று. இப்போதைய சூழலில் தலைமைச் செயலகம் நடத்த அந்த கட்டடம் உதவாது. அந்த விஷயத்தில் திரும்பத் திரும்ப முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா மீது கருணாநிதி புகார் கூறுவது, குழந்தைத்தனமாக உள்ளது.

தமிழகத்தில் காங்கிரஸ் தலைவரை மாற்ற வேண்டும். கட்சி மேலிடம் யாரை நியமித்தாலும் நாங்கள் ஏற்போம். கடந்த 2 மாதங்களில் தமிழக காங்கிரஸ் தலைவர் தங்கபாலு எடுத்த நடவடிக்கைகளுக்கு கட்சி மேலிடம் ஒப்புதல் அளிக்கவில்லை. இதனால் அவர் நீக்கியதாக அறிவித்த, நகர, ஒன்றிய, மாவட்ட நிர்வாகிகள் பதவியில் தொடரலாம்.

சமச்சீர் கல்வியை நடைமுறைப்படுத்துவது தொடர்பாக முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா மேற்கொண்டுள்ள நடவடிக்கைகள் பாராட்டுக்குரியது. கல்வியாளர்களுடன் ஆலோசித்து சமச்சீர் கல்வியை அவர் நடைமுறைப்படுத்துவார் என நம்புகிறேன் என்றார் இளங்கோவன்.


English summary

Congress should break alliance with DMK says senior congress leader and former central minister EVKS Elangovan

Will sonia gandhi listen to true congress workers???????????????

^^^^^^

Source: IE, Posted: Mon Jun 20 2011, 11:38 hrs


Rajya Sabha MP and 2G co-accused K Kanimozhi looks at a long haul in jail as the Supreme Court – her last hope -- rejected her bail plea in the spectrum case.

The bail plea of Sharad Kumar, the managing director of Kalaignar TV, was also rejected.

The apex court asked Kanimozhi and Kumar to approach CBI special court for bail after charges were framed against them. The Bench said the CBI court can thereafter decide on their pleas, uninfluenced by the earlier bail proceedings.

Kanimozhi and Kumar have been accused by the Central Bureau of Investigation of being involved in the illegal transaction of Rs 200 crore to Kalaignar TV which was alleged to be a bribe given by a telecom operator that benefitted in the scam.

The CBI has rubbished their claim that the money was a loan to their television channel. Both Kanimozhi and Kumar hold 20 per cent shares each in the channel.

Eletcricity Tamasha...

- CM requests Mr MNS to allot 1000 MW of power from Central Quota

- Tangedco floats tender for 450 MW power purchase

- Wind power producers allege that only 2900 MW out of 3400 MW of power produced is evacuated. 500 MW of green power is unused.

- TANGEDCO says now that demand has reduced and there is over production by 1000 MW...!!!!

Why all this confusion? Why there is power cut for 1 hour in Chennai and 3 hours in rest of TN and 30 percent cut for HT consumers??

Can anyone comprehend this planning mess by the Utility?

- They should establish a Central Contorl room with real time data on demand and production with computerised facilities for Data and Charting recording.

- Power Cut management decision should be left to the Control room in charge.

- Thermal and Gas based Stations should be programmed for automatic adjustment of load based on Grid frequency..Load down when frequency goes above 50cps and up when it is below 50.

- Since Wind Mills are unreliable source of Production and has the capacity to disturb the Grid Frequency wildly, any advanced systems available to even out fluctuation should be explored.

All these are purely Technical and decision making should be left to Engineers and IAS MD and JJ should keep out of day today management. The Chief Minister need not announce about Power cut and Dams sluice opening.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tn-shocking-waste-of-500-mw-wind-power/160914-60-118.html

CHENNAI: On two occasions last week and on Sunday, the Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation Limited (TANGEDCO) on average did not use 500 MW of wind power.
While wind power producers say it was due to poor infrastructure to carry power from generating units to the grid, TANGEDCO maintains that it was due to supply overshooting demand.
According to K Kasthurirangaian, Chairman of Indian Wind Power Association, the current electricity production by windmills in Tamil Nadu is around 3,400 MW and the TANGEDCO had the capacity to evacuate only around 2,900 MW. “Now, the season is good and windmills produce almost optimal power. But, the TANGEDCO is unable to utilise it as it lacks adequate evacuation infrastructure,” he said. During last week, under-utilisation averaging 500 MW happened at least twice, besides on Sunday. If the power utility sets up sufficient facilities to use wind power, the State need not reel under power shortage, Kasthurirangaian said.
When asked, senior officials at the TANGEDCO said the present demand was only 10,000 MW, while the actual availability was a little over 11,000 MW. Explaining the surplus, an official said power production from hydel units had increased due to opening of dams, including Mettur, and the rains. “The intermittent rains in the State has decreased farm demand, which is substantial. Also, there is a drop in demand in urban areas.”
The TANGEDCO did not buy the full quantum of power from the windmills not because of poor infrastructure but due to availability of surplus electricity, he said.:) So now we are power surplus ?:)

^^

Wind power generators has been accusing the state gvt for past 1yr that TANGEDGO does not have enough infrastructure to absorb the power produced by them. Surplus power is just a laughing stock statement from TANGEDGO!

But in weekends there is no power cut in my home town! Is this the case with other cities/town too? This is possible since power consumption in schools/colleges or even gvt/private offices is not much on these two days.

The poor evacuation from windmills is mainly due to lack of last mile connectivity. TNEB must have planned 33 KV Sub Stations nearer to wind mills localities. Since TNEB is found wanting , major wind mill operators are planning 33 KV sub stations at their cost (may be financed later by TNEB when its financial health is pink).

The second reason may be the old dues, payable to the wind mills operators. Dumping the old suppliers and soliciting new suppliers - new credit - seems the plan of TNEB.

TNEB should look at a long term solution and not short term which may backfire. Depending on Private sector has become the order of the day and they should not kill the golden goose.

Will sonia gandhi listen to true congress workers???????????????

Congress workers? How many are there in TN? Let's take a count here, hmm Elangovan, PC, Vasan, Yuvaraj, Goldbalu and :weird:

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LONDON: A lake in the US state of Oregon was emptied after a man was caught on a security camera urinating in it.

Nearly eight million gallons of water was drained out from the pristine lake in the city of Portland after Joshua Seater, 21, was caught on the security camera relieving himself in it, 'The Daily Telegraph' reported.

Health experts said the incident would not have caused any harm to people, who are supplied drinking water from the reservoir, since the urine would have vastly diluted.

But David Shaff, an administrator at the Portland Water Bureau, defended the decision to empty the lake, which is said to cost the taxpayers $36,000, saying: "It's not an over reaction. What you have to deal with here is the 'yuck' factor. Imagine how many people would be saying 'I made orange juice with that water this morning'.
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I am wondering what will be the impact if we follow the same standards :)

India will be flooding.

India will be flooding.
ha ha, the best one-liner.!

Tata Photon + expands its services to Chengalapattu,Kancheepuram & Nagercoil apart from the exisiting ones at Chennai,Coimbatore,Mahindra Park & Sriperumbudur.

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Cat is not inserting tongue to full depth while drinking milk...

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Tamil Nadu asks mixer makers to state concerns in tender

Chennai, June 22 (IANS) The Tamil Nadu government has asked manufacturers of grinders, mixers and laptops to state their concerns regarding its tender to source these products for free distribution in the state.

At the pre-bid meeting with the manufacturers held here Tuesday, the government asked them to send in their views and concerns in writing, industry sources told IANS.

"Going by the product specifications listed in the tender, it is evident that the government is focused on distributing good quality products," Coimbatore Wet Grinder Manufacturers Association (COWMA) secretary D. Krishnamurthi told IANS.

Vijay Srinivasan, marketing director at Maya Appliances manufacturers of Preethi brand of mixers, said: "The government seems to be clear on the quality aspect. It does not want poor quality products even though it is for free distribution."

The state government has floated a tender for sourcing grinders, mixers and fans numbering 25 lakh each, and an international competitive tender for 912,000 laptops.

The grinders, mixers and fans will be distributed to families eligible to draw rice from the public distribution system (PDS) while laptops will be given to students of government-owned or aided educational institutes.

At the pre-bid meeting, COWMA members had requested some changes in the product specifications and the eligibility conditions.

"We had asked the government to go in for 26 gauge thickness stainless steel drum that is currently used in manufacture of grinders, instead of 22 gauge thickness as bending has to be done by machines," Krishnamurthi.

The grinder manufacturers have also suggested to the government to opt for lower-powered motor, instead of the 150 watt motor stipulated in the tender.

According to Krishnamurthi, the manufacturers also want the government to increase the size of the consortium from the stipulated two/three member, so that COWMA members could put in their bids, and also relax the minimum turnover conditions for the bidders.

"Citing the rule that small-scale units need not pay earnest money deposit (EMD), we have requested the government to exempt the small grinder makers from the EMD condition," Krishnamurthi said.

The manufacturers have also suggested advance payment to successful bidders.

A mixer manufacturer said: "The participants raised issues like the length of power chord, jar size and others related to specifications. All these are related to the cost of manufacturing. Only when the government freezes the product specifications, we can say whether the government's target price could be met."

The Tamil Nadu government has estimated the two-jar mixer tender at Rs.5 billion, grinder at Rs.6 billion and the table fans at Rs.2.5 billion.

http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=246558

moonu masam india va japan kitaa kudunga, naanga india va japana aagikatarom... 3hrs japan na india kitta kudunga japana indiava akki katurom!

it use to be bihar here.. but any way there is no difference between bihar and rest of india.. as if we live in singapore, jokes bihar pathi frame pannuranga..

any way this picture fits for the joke!

japan japan thaan.......:applause:

http://tm.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/06/22/20110622a_006101002.jpg

I am thinking about our infamous IT corridor.
Let our spineless selfish politicians go and drink the p... of Japanese.

I am thinking about our infamous IT corridor.
Let our spineless selfish politicians go and drink the p... of Japanese.

+1.

Our politicians won't even read this news.

Google has just added five more Indian languages to the Google Translate pool bringing the grand total to 63 languages. The new additions are still in alpha stages, and include Bengali, Gujarati, Kannada, Tamil and Telugu. Also known as the Indic languages, they generally differ quite a bit in the way sentences are structured making fluent translations a real task.

Indian languages often use Subject Object Verb (SOV) to form sentences, unlike English which uses the Subject Verb Object (SVO) order. Google’s research to improve Japanese translations have helped them overcome this barrier allowing them to add many more SOV languages. Since the newly added languages are still in alpha phase, the translations won’t be very fluent, but you can give it a try by hitting this link here.

Since these languages have their own unique scripts, Google has implemented a transliterated input method which means when you type an English word from a regular keyboard, it automatically writes it in the Indic script that you’ve chosen. This opens doors to a whole new set of audiences who were once limited to viewing websites written in their own native language. It also saves websites the headache of implementing different languages on their site in order to reach out to a wider audience. We as readers can also help Google improve the quality of translations by sending them feedback, so just in case you come across any mistakes, feel free to point it out.

http://tech2.in.com/news/web-services/google-translate-adds-five-more-indian-languages/226532

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SSCaddict,

I dont get you , do you mean to say BJP and performance as contradiction??

--tn2usa

can any state perform without center's help? I think you are forgetting that the impetus that the NDA govt. gave to the GJ govt. after the earthquake was enough to industrialize one of the most poor regions of GJ-Kutch. The NDA govt. gave huge tax breaks for 10 yrs to the area and which led to huge industrial houses setting bases there. Also you should know that the central govt. sets the plan outlay for a state and there are enough central agencies which if wanted then could have easily rocked GJ big projects. MOEF and AAI are some of the examples. Actually big corporate houses bribed the central govt. to don't hinder their projects, why do you think that so many minor ports, large power plants came and the MOEF granted the clearances to all and never objected?

This is bullshit that Modi ALONE is responsible for the rise of gujarat, though he has played a very very big role no doubt but the tax breaks by NDA govt. and further co-operation by the central govt. is somewhat responsible for the rise.

:cheers:

JV's kazhugaar thinks so..

Source (http://new.vikatan.com/article.php?mid=2&sid=207&aid=7398)


''அரசியல்ரீதியாக சில முக்கிய முடிவுகளை எடுக்க இருக்கிறார் ஜெயலலிதா. அதாவது, தன்னுடைய அரசியல் வாரிசு யார் என்பதுதான் அது! அந்த ஸ்தானத்தை சசிகலாவுக்குக் கொடுத்து அழகு பார்க்க நினைக்கிறாராம் ஜெயலலிதா. அமைச்சர் மரியம்பிச்சை மரணத்தைத் தொடர்ந்து காலியாக உள்ள திருச்சி மேற்குத் தொகுதிக்கான இடைத்தேர்தலில், அ.தி.மு.க. களம் இறக்கும் வேட்பாளர் அநேகமாக சசிகலாவாக இருக்கலாம். 'நீயே நில்லேன் சசி’ என்று ஜெயலலிதாவே சொன்னதாகச் சொல்கிறார்கள் சோர்ஸ்கள்!''

''தோழி முதல்வராக இருக்கிறார் என்பதைத் தவிர, திருச்சி மேற்குத் தொகுதிக்கும் சசிகலாவுக்கும் என்ன தொடர்பு? இங்கு உள்ள மக்கள் எப்படி ஏற்றுக்​கொள்வார்கள்?''

''நீர் என்ன... விஷயம் புரியாதவராய் இருக்கிறீர்! சசிகலாவுக்கும், அந்தத் தொகுதிக்கும் நெருக்கமான பந்தம் உண்டு. கள்ளர் சமூகத்தவர் சுமார் 35 ஆயிரம் பேர் இங்கே வசிக்கிறார்களாம். தோழியின் அக்கா வனிதாவின் வீடு, கருமண்டபம் ஏரியாவில் இருக்கிறது. கே.கே.நகரில்தான் சசிகலாவின் உறவினர் இன்ஜினீயர் கலியபெருமாள் வீடு. நிறையச் சொந்தங்கள் வசிப்பது இந்தத் தொகுதியில்தான். இன்னும் சொல்கிறேன்... திருச்சி எல்லையும், தஞ்சாவூர் எல்லையும் சேரும் இடத்துக்கு அருகேதான் சசிகலாவின் புகுந்த வீடு. அதாவது, விளார் கிராமம் எம்.நடராஜன் பிறந்த சொந்தக் கிராமம். அப்படிப் பார்த்தால், மண்ணுக்குச் சொந்தமானவர்தானே!

Singapore envoy discusses investment in infrastructure

Singapore's High Commissioner to India, Karen Tan, called on Chief Minister Jayalalithaa at the Secretariat here on Wednesday.

Congratulates Jayalalithaa

Congratulating Ms. Jayalalithaa on her victory in the Assembly elections and assumption of office for the third time, the High Commissioner told her that Singapore was interested in investing in infrastructure projects in the State.

The High Commissioner was accompanied by Consul General in Chennai Ajit Singh and First Secretary (Economics) Chan Kah Mei, according to a government release.http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00664/22THJAYA_664395e.jpg

http://www.thehindu.com/business/article2126797.ece

Government cable TV within 3 months||| This will financially stabilise the government

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.திருச்சி எல்லையும், தஞ்சாவூர் எல்லையும் சேரும் இடத்துக்கு அருகேதான் சசிகலாவின் புகுந்த வீடு. அதாவது, விளார் கிராமம் எம்.நடராஜன் பிறந்த சொந்தக் கிராமம். அப்படிப் பார்த்தால், மண்ணுக்குச் சொந்தமானவர்தானே!

hm.... Vilar village is in Nanjikottai side exactly perpendicular to Trichy direction from Tanjore....
Adichu vidarangapa

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Laptop eh innum order pannala, athukulla backpack vanthuruchu!

Google has just added five more Indian languages to the Google Translate pool bringing the grand total to 63 languages. The new additions are still in alpha stages, and include Bengali, Gujarati, Kannada, Tamil and Telugu. Also known as the Indic languages, they generally differ quite a bit in the way sentences are structured making fluent translations a real task.

Indian languages often use Subject Object Verb (SOV) to form sentences, unlike English which uses the Subject Verb Object (SVO) order. Google’s research to improve Japanese translations have helped them overcome this barrier allowing them to add many more SOV languages. Since the newly added languages are still in alpha phase, the translations won’t be very fluent, but you can give it a try by hitting this link here.

Since these languages have their own unique scripts, Google has implemented a transliterated input method which means when you type an English word from a regular keyboard, it automatically writes it in the Indic script that you’ve chosen. This opens doors to a whole new set of audiences who were once limited to viewing websites written in their own native language. It also saves websites the headache of implementing different languages on their site in order to reach out to a wider audience. We as readers can also help Google improve the quality of translations by sending them feedback, so just in case you come across any mistakes, feel free to point it out.

http://tech2.in.com/news/web-services/google-translate-adds-five-more-indian-languages/226532

Use google translate @ http://translate.google.com/#ta|en|

English to Tamil translation — Alpha
இப்போது நீங்கள் தமிழ் மற்றும் எண்ணற்ற பிற உலக மொழிகளில் இடையே நேரடியாக மொழிபெயர்க்க முடியும். > கூகிள் மொழிபெயர் மேலும் ஐந்து இந்திய மொழிகள் சேர்க்கிறது
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கூகிள் மட்டும் 63 மொழிகளில் பெரும் மொத்த கொண்டு Google Translate பூல் ஐந்து மேற்பட்ட இந்திய மொழிகளில் சேர்த்துள்ளார். புதிய சேர்க்கைகள் ஆல்பா நிலைகளில் இன்னும் உள்ளன, மற்றும் பெங்காலி, குஜராத்தி, கன்னடா, தமிழ் மற்றும் தெலுங்கு அடங்கும். மேலும் இந்திய மொழிகளில் அறியப்படுகிறது, அவர்கள் பொதுவாக தண்டனை சரளமாக மொழிபெயர்ப்பு ஒரு உண்மையான பணி செய்யும் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன வழியில் கொஞ்சம் வேறுபடுகிறார்கள்.

இந்திய மொழிகளில் பெரும்பாலும் தண்டனை:lol: வடிவம், பொருள் வினைச்சொல் பொருள் (எஸ்விஓ) வரிசையை பயன்படுத்துகிறது ஆங்கிலம் போல். உட்பட்டது பொருள் வினைச்சொல் (SOV) பயன்படுத்துகின்றன ஜப்பனீஸ் மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மேம்படுத்த கூகிள் ஆராய்ச்சி இன்னும் இன்னும் இன்னும்:nuts: பல SOV மொழிகளை சேர்க்க அனுமதிக்கிறது இந்த தடையை சமாளிப்பதற்கு உதவியாக உள்ளன. புதிதாக சேர்க்கப்பட்ட மொழிகளை ஆல்பா கட்டத்தில் இன்னும் இருப்பதால், மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மிகவும் சரளமாக முடியாது, ஆனால் நீ:lol: இங்கே இந்த இணைப்பை தாக்கி அது ஒரு முயற்சி கொடுக்க முடியும்.

இந்த மொழிகளை தங்கள் சொந்த தனிப்பட்ட திரைக்கதை என்பதால், கூகிள் நீங்கள் ஒரு வழக்கமான விசைப்பலகை ஒரு ஆங்கில வார்த்தை வகை போது, அதாவது ஒரு பெயர்ப்பு உள்ளீடு முறை செயல்படுத்தியுள்ளது, அது தானாகவே நீங்கள் தேர்வு செய்த இந்திய ஸ்கிரிப்ட் அது எழுதுகிறது. இந்த முறை தங்கள் சொந்த மொழியில் எழுதப்பட்ட பார்க்கும் இணையதளங்களை மட்டுமே இருந்த பார்வையாளர்கள் ஒரு முழு புதிய அமைக்க கதவுகள் திறந்திருக்கிறது. இது வலைத்தளங்களை ஒரு விரிவான பார்வையாளர்களின் அவுட் அடைவதற்கு அவர்களின் தளத்தில் வெவ்வேறு மொழிகளில் செயல்படுத்த தலைவலி சேமிக்கப்படுகிறது. நாங்கள் வாசகர்கள் கூகுள் இன்னும் கருத்துக்களை அனுப்பி மொழிபெயர்ப்பு தரத்தை மேம்படுத்த உதவும், எனவே நீங்கள் எந்த தவறுகள் முழுவதும் வந்து ஒரு வழக்கில், அது சுட்டிக்காட்ட இலவச தோன்றுகிறது.

onnumey puriyaley....:lol:

English to Tamil translation — Alpha
இப்போது நீங்கள் தமிழ் மற்றும் எண்ணற்ற பிற உலக மொழிகளில் இடையே நேரடியாக மொழிபெயர்க்க முடியும். > கூகிள் மொழிபெயர் மேலும் ஐந்து இந்திய மொழிகள் சேர்க்கிறது
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கூகிள் மட்டும் 63 மொழிகளில் பெரும் மொத்த கொண்டு Google Translate பூல் ஐந்து மேற்பட்ட இந்திய மொழிகளில் சேர்த்துள்ளார். புதிய சேர்க்கைகள் ஆல்பா நிலைகளில் இன்னும் உள்ளன, மற்றும் பெங்காலி, குஜராத்தி, கன்னடா, தமிழ் மற்றும் தெலுங்கு அடங்கும். மேலும் இந்திய மொழிகளில் அறியப்படுகிறது, அவர்கள் பொதுவாக தண்டனை சரளமாக மொழிபெயர்ப்பு ஒரு உண்மையான பணி செய்யும் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன வழியில் கொஞ்சம் வேறுபடுகிறார்கள்.

இந்திய மொழிகளில் பெரும்பாலும் தண்டனை:lol: வடிவம், பொருள் வினைச்சொல் பொருள் (எஸ்விஓ) வரிசையை பயன்படுத்துகிறது ஆங்கிலம் போல். உட்பட்டது பொருள் வினைச்சொல் (SOV) பயன்படுத்துகின்றன ஜப்பனீஸ் மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மேம்படுத்த கூகிள் ஆராய்ச்சி இன்னும் இன்னும் இன்னும்:nuts: பல SOV மொழிகளை சேர்க்க அனுமதிக்கிறது இந்த தடையை சமாளிப்பதற்கு உதவியாக உள்ளன. புதிதாக சேர்க்கப்பட்ட மொழிகளை ஆல்பா கட்டத்தில் இன்னும் இருப்பதால், மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மிகவும் சரளமாக முடியாது, ஆனால் நீ:lol: இங்கே இந்த இணைப்பை தாக்கி அது ஒரு முயற்சி கொடுக்க முடியும்.

இந்த மொழிகளை தங்கள் சொந்த தனிப்பட்ட திரைக்கதை என்பதால், கூகிள் நீங்கள் ஒரு வழக்கமான விசைப்பலகை ஒரு ஆங்கில வார்த்தை வகை போது, அதாவது ஒரு பெயர்ப்பு உள்ளீடு முறை செயல்படுத்தியுள்ளது, அது தானாகவே நீங்கள் தேர்வு செய்த இந்திய ஸ்கிரிப்ட் அது எழுதுகிறது. இந்த முறை தங்கள் சொந்த மொழியில் எழுதப்பட்ட பார்க்கும் இணையதளங்களை மட்டுமே இருந்த பார்வையாளர்கள் ஒரு முழு புதிய அமைக்க கதவுகள் திறந்திருக்கிறது. இது வலைத்தளங்களை ஒரு விரிவான பார்வையாளர்களின் அவுட் அடைவதற்கு அவர்களின் தளத்தில் வெவ்வேறு மொழிகளில் செயல்படுத்த தலைவலி சேமிக்கப்படுகிறது. நாங்கள் வாசகர்கள் கூகுள் இன்னும் கருத்துக்களை அனுப்பி மொழிபெயர்ப்பு தரத்தை மேம்படுத்த உதவும், எனவே நீங்கள் எந்த தவறுகள் முழுவதும் வந்து ஒரு வழக்கில், அது சுட்டிக்காட்ட இலவச தோன்றுகிறது.

onnumey puriyaley....:lol:

Really hilarious. Translation is not so easy.

Comedy of Errors

English to Tamil translation — Alpha
இப்போது நீங்கள் தமிழ் மற்றும் எண்ணற்ற பிற உலக மொழிகளில் இடையே நேரடியாக மொழிபெயர்க்க முடியும். > கூகிள் மொழிபெயர் மேலும் ஐந்து இந்திய மொழிகள் சேர்க்கிறது
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கூகிள் மட்டும் 63 மொழிகளில் பெரும் மொத்த கொண்டு Google Translate பூல் ஐந்து மேற்பட்ட இந்திய மொழிகளில் சேர்த்துள்ளார். புதிய சேர்க்கைகள் ஆல்பா நிலைகளில் இன்னும் உள்ளன, மற்றும் பெங்காலி, குஜராத்தி, கன்னடா, தமிழ் மற்றும் தெலுங்கு அடங்கும். மேலும் இந்திய மொழிகளில் அறியப்படுகிறது, அவர்கள் பொதுவாக தண்டனை சரளமாக மொழிபெயர்ப்பு ஒரு உண்மையான பணி செய்யும் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன வழியில் கொஞ்சம் வேறுபடுகிறார்கள்.

இந்திய மொழிகளில் பெரும்பாலும் தண்டனை:lol: வடிவம், பொருள் வினைச்சொல் பொருள் (எஸ்விஓ) வரிசையை பயன்படுத்துகிறது ஆங்கிலம் போல். உட்பட்டது பொருள் வினைச்சொல் (SOV) பயன்படுத்துகின்றன ஜப்பனீஸ் மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மேம்படுத்த கூகிள் ஆராய்ச்சி இன்னும் இன்னும் இன்னும்:nuts: பல SOV மொழிகளை சேர்க்க அனுமதிக்கிறது இந்த தடையை சமாளிப்பதற்கு உதவியாக உள்ளன. புதிதாக சேர்க்கப்பட்ட மொழிகளை ஆல்பா கட்டத்தில் இன்னும் இருப்பதால், மொழிபெயர்ப்பு மிகவும் சரளமாக முடியாது, ஆனால் நீ:lol: இங்கே இந்த இணைப்பை தாக்கி அது ஒரு முயற்சி கொடுக்க முடியும்.

இந்த மொழிகளை தங்கள் சொந்த தனிப்பட்ட திரைக்கதை என்பதால், கூகிள் நீங்கள் ஒரு வழக்கமான விசைப்பலகை ஒரு ஆங்கில வார்த்தை வகை போது, அதாவது ஒரு பெயர்ப்பு உள்ளீடு முறை செயல்படுத்தியுள்ளது, அது தானாகவே நீங்கள் தேர்வு செய்த இந்திய ஸ்கிரிப்ட் அது எழுதுகிறது. இந்த முறை தங்கள் சொந்த மொழியில் எழுதப்பட்ட பார்க்கும் இணையதளங்களை மட்டுமே இருந்த பார்வையாளர்கள் ஒரு முழு புதிய அமைக்க கதவுகள் திறந்திருக்கிறது. இது வலைத்தளங்களை ஒரு விரிவான பார்வையாளர்களின் அவுட் அடைவதற்கு அவர்களின் தளத்தில் வெவ்வேறு மொழிகளில் செயல்படுத்த தலைவலி சேமிக்கப்படுகிறது. நாங்கள் வாசகர்கள் கூகுள் இன்னும் கருத்துக்களை அனுப்பி மொழிபெயர்ப்பு தரத்தை மேம்படுத்த உதவும், எனவே நீங்கள் எந்த தவறுகள் முழுவதும் வந்து ஒரு வழக்கில், அது சுட்டிக்காட்ட இலவச தோன்றுகிறது.

onnumey puriyaley....:lol:

Its just an Alpha version...Perfection will come in time...Weather it is S/w or any other product we should not wait/expect for 100% Super douper thing from the start it self .With time and lot of input from jingos it may evolve big.

Evolution is nature , Revolution is Human. Believing in Nature..Let's See

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/2362011/slm2306pa9fevse4.jpg

Laptop eh innum order pannala, athukulla backpack vanthuruchu!

She is far better than thatha, who keeps his name for the welfare schemes like Kalaingar Veetu kapeetu thittam etc. While Jaya, just pasted her photo and gave the name with Tamilnadu Arasu. It is good sign of professionalism.

Just doesnt look good when all have to be seated like this when cm talks and there is difficulty in taking down notes.


I have never been to these buildings hence dont know what facility is there,
ideally such meetings must be in sort of mini conference room attached to cm office.


when i used to see images and video frm muka term, such things were not found.

Dont know if i am reading too much into this, but this 4th or 5th time i am seeing such images.


just doesnt look good.

JV's kazhugaar thinks so..

Source (http://new.vikatan.com/article.php?mid=2&sid=207&aid=7398)


''அரசியல்ரீதியாக சில முக்கிய முடிவுகளை எடுக்க இருக்கிறார் ஜெயலலிதா. அதாவது, தன்னுடைய அரசியல் வாரிசு யார் என்பதுதான் அது! அந்த ஸ்தானத்தை சசிகலாவுக்குக் கொடுத்து அழகு பார்க்க நினைக்கிறாராம் ஜெயலலிதா. அமைச்சர் மரியம்பிச்சை மரணத்தைத் தொடர்ந்து காலியாக உள்ள திருச்சி மேற்குத் தொகுதிக்கான இடைத்தேர்தலில், அ.தி.மு.க. களம் இறக்கும் வேட்பாளர் அநேகமாக சசிகலாவாக இருக்கலாம். 'நீயே நில்லேன் சசி’ என்று ஜெயலலிதாவே சொன்னதாகச் சொல்கிறார்கள் சோர்ஸ்கள்!''


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story/tamil-nadu-jayalalithaa-friend-sasikala-may-contest-in-bypolls/1/142421.html

For years, Sasikala has been at Jayalalithaa's side, as a close aide and trusted friend. But she has never contested the elections. Now speculation is rife that the AIADMK is planning to pitch her in poll battle, which will also serve to silence critics who see the party without a second line of leadership.

Within the AIADMK, Sasikala, known as 'Chinna Amma' or junior Amma, :lol:has come to wield enormous power. This week when chief minister Jayalalithaa went on a three-day trip to Srirangam, it is learnt that local leaders had demanded that Sasikala be made a legislator.

It is believed that Sasikala could contest the bypolls from Trichy which fell vacant following the death of AIADMK minister Mariyam Pichai.

Senior AIADMK functionaries are not willing to say much on this development. "It is Amma's decision. She knows what is good for the party," one of the leaders said.

The friendship between Sasikala and Jayalalithaa goes back a long way. Not only does Sasikala follow Jayalalithaa like a shadow, they live under the same roof.

Having left her husband, M. Natarajan, Sasikala has been staying with her friend.

When Jayalalithaa turned 60, she and Sasikala went on a pilgrimage to the Thirukkadaiyur temple, where only couples used to visit:). Curiously enough, they exchanged garlands, sending the rumour mills on an overdrive. While it gave fodder to her rivals, especially the DMK, it also shows the bond the two share.

Initially, Jayalalithaa wanted to keep her friend away from the party politics. But gradually Sasikala started wielding a lot of influence and Jayalalithaa yielded by elevating her friend to the AIADMK general council and then to the party's state secretariat council.

Apart from Sasikala, many of her household members have been accommodated in the party, though not everyone manages to retain the confidence of the diva. For, Jayalalithaa had dumped a few in the past, including her foster son V. N. Sudhakaran, whose extravagant wedding earned her the wrath of the people and cost her the election

^^ If this happens, she cannot complain on DMK for promoting Stalin. After all Stalin was with the party for many years. Not sure what is her qualification other than being her friend?

If this happens then it will be like 71/2 sani for tamilnadu and people!

even after seeing the fall of family politics of dmk, i wonder how admk travels in that route.. then in next decade this family will be tihar and will face the downfall.:nuts:

the member can go learn about tirukadaiyur temple before bolding that part and smiling. media can bullshit arnd. downright falsehood from that reporter.

for fun.......... :lol:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6057/266210.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/266210.jpg/)

this roaming thro emails and sms.:lol:

^^ :rofl:

"Kanavargal kondattam" part really cracked me up!!

^^ :lol:

Hope mods don't delete that post. My Avan Ivan poster from savukku got deleted !!

^^ :lol:

Hope mods don't delete that post. My Avan Ivan poster from savukku got deleted !!

Even my pic of udaynidhi got deleted. But everyone had a chance to view that, so whats there in deleting.:lol:

^^ Mods are losing sense of humor too nowadays and want to pose as elementary school teachers.

Reason: Kooda natpu :)

^^ Ippadiye poitu irundha Arratai Arangam Kuratai Arangamaga maari vidum :ohno:.

சிக்கலில் செட்டி நாட்டு சீமான் (http://www.savukku.net/home1/976-2011-06-23-06-02-20.html).

P.Chidambaram in soup. Su. Swamy as he promised in his tweet few months ago is all set for battle now against PC.

^^ Ippadiye poitu irundha Arratai Arangam Kuratai Arangamaga maari vidum :ohno:.
:lol::banana:

^^ Mods are losing sense of humor too nowadays and want to pose as elementary school teachers.



^^ Ippadiye poitu irundha Arratai Arangam Kuratai Arangamaga maari vidum :ohno:.

naan ithai aamothikkiren :)



Reason: Kooda natpu :)

Enna koduam sir ithu :) BTW yar yaar kooda kooda natpu vachirukkanganu explain paneengana savukaryama irukkum :lol: karunanathi mathiri multiple meaning la one liner vidatheenga :)

multiple meaning la one liner vidatheenga :)

Appadi oneliner vittutu badhil sollama irundhathan madhipu, maruvadhi, innuma ungalukku theriyalai? Engalukkum one-liner varumla? :)

Appadi oneliner vittutu badhil sollama irundhathan madhipu, maruvadhi, innuma ungalukku theriyalai? Engalukkum one-liner varumla? :)

So, KT yoda Inspiration Mu.Karunanathi :lol: Neenga avara follow panreenga:lol:. His (MK) movement of self respect :nuts: - madipu, maruvathi :)

the bag is model bag being shown to school colleges while taking list of students.my sources say laptop and config good and only branded ones being considered.

and some good news on investment also coming in as per sources.

Will court direct jayalaitha to appear before court? will be decided on 8 th July


Source (http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/1106/23/1110623041_1.htm)

Srilankan coastal guard acting like pirates - Congress

இலங்கை கடற்படை கடற்கொள்ளையர்களை போல செயல்படுகிறது: காங்.திடீர் புகார்


தமிழக மீனவர்கள் விவகாரத்தில் இலங்கை கடற்படையினர் கடற்கொள்ளையர்கள் போல நடந்து கொள்வதாக காங்கிரஸ் எம்.பி. ஜே.எம். ஆருண் கூறியுள்ளார்.

ராமேஸ்வரத்தில் இன்று செய்தியாளர்களுக்கு அளித்த பேட்டியின்போது இதனை தெரிவித்த அவர், மேலும் கூறியதாவது:

1974 ஆம் ஆண்டு இலங்கையுடன் செய்துகொண்ட ஒப்பந்தத்தின்படி, கச்சத்தீவு அருகே மீன் பிடிக்க இந்திய மீனவர்களுக்கு முழு உரிமை உள்ளது.

சர்வதேச கடல் விதிமுறைகளின்படி, மீனவர்கள் சர்வதேச கடற்பரப்பில் மீன் பிடிக்கலாம். இதற்கு எந்த தடையும் இல்லை. கடற்கொள்ளையர்கள் போல இலங்கை கடற்படை நடந்து கொள்ளக் கூடாது.

இலங்கை படையினரால் பிடித்துச் செல்லப்பட்ட 23 மீனவர்களையும் விடுதலை செய்ய மத்திய அரசு அனைத்து நடவடிக்கைகளையும் எடுத்து வருகிறது.

இவ்வாறு அவர் கூறினார்.

கடந்த காலங்களில் தமிழக மீனவர்களை இலங்கை கடற்படையினர் சுட்டுக்கொன்றபோதும், கடத்திச் சென்றபோதும் மவுனம் காத்த காங்கிரஸ் கட்சியினர், அண்மையில் நடைபெற்ற சட்டமன்ற தேர்தலில் கிடைத்த பலத்த அடியே இவ்வாறு தங்கள் மீது திடீர் அக்கறை கொள்ள வைத்துள்ளதாக ராமேஸ்வரம் மீனவர்கள் கருத்து தெரிவித்துள்ளனர்.

Case against DMk.. sorry MK family

தமிழக அரசு மீது வழக்கு தொடருவேன்: சுப்பிரமணிய சாமி

முன்னாள் முதலமைச்சர் கருணாநிதியின் குடும்ப சொத்து தொடர்பாக ஆகஸ்டு 15ஆம் தேதிக்குள் நடவடிக்கை எடுக்காவிட்டால் தமிழக அரசு மீது வழக்கு தொடருவேன் என்று ஜனதா கட்சி தலைவர் சுப்பிரமணிய சாமி கூறியுள்ளார்.

சென்னையில் செய்தியாளர்களிடம் பேசிய அவர், 2008ஆம் ஆண்டு தி.மு.க. ஆட்சியில் அண்ணா பிறந்தநாளை முன்னிட்டு, 1,405 சிறைக்கைதிகள் கருணை அடிப்படையில் விடுதலை செய்யப்பட்டவர்களில் பலபேர் மிகப்பெரிய கொலை குற்றங்களை செய்தவர்கள் என்று அவர் கூறினார்.

தற்போது, வெளியில் உள்ள அவர்கள் மீண்டும் கொலை குற்றங்களில் ஈடுபட்டு வருகின்றனர் எ*ன்று*ம் எனவே, அவர்களை மீண்டும் சிறையில் அடைக்க வேண்டும் எ*ன முதலமைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கு கடிதம் எழுதியுள்ளேன் எ*ன்று*ம் சுப்பிரமணியசாமி தெரிவித்தார்.

2ஜி அலைக்கற்றை ஒதுக்கீட்டில், மத்திய அமைச்சர் ப.சிதம்பரமும் சம்பந்தப்பட்டுள்ளதால் அவரை அமைச்சர் பதவியில் இருந்து பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங் நீக்க வேண்டும் என்றும் அவர் வலியுறுத்தினார்.

முன்னாள் முதலமைச்சர் கருணாநிதியின் குடும்ப சொத்து தொடர்பாக, தமிழக அரசு உடனடியாக நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும் என்றும் ஆகஸ்டு 15ஆம் தேதிக்குள் நடவடிக்கை எடுக்காவிட்டால் தமிழக அரசு மீது வழக்கு தொடருவேன் என்றும் சுப்பிரமணிய சாமி கூறினார்.

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Government cable TV within 3 months||| This will financially stabilise the government

Speaks volumes about the misplaced priorities about aatha.
Roads: 3 years
Industries: 30 Years
But cable: 3 months

Speaks volumes about the misplaced priorities about aatha.
Roads: 3 years
Industries: 30 Years
But cable: 3 months

I do not know when did she give these dates

Speaks volumes about the misplaced priorities about aatha.
Roads: 3 years
Industries: 30 Years
But cable: 3 months

Setting up a corporation is economically and logically feasible. may be thats the reason :). And all the infrastructure needed is installed already.

I do not know when did she give these dates

VS007 is a ADMK guy, who pretends as a DMK partymen in our (and various) forums to gauge public reaction (aka feeler / pheelinge) on DMK. Hope that explains how he got those dates from JJ :lol:

Chennai: About 15 lakh fake ration cards are in circulation across the state, said cooperation minister Sellur K Raju. Speaking to reporters after a surprise inspection of some fair price shops in Adyar and Abhiramapuram areas, the minister said there were 1.85 crore ration cards at present, of which 15 lakh are fake. The minister blamed the previous DMK government for the mess and added that steps were being taken to weed out the fake cards.
The civil supplies department has seen a spurt in the number of applications for ration cards due to the growing list of freebie promised by governments, present and past. Since the schemes are implemented among card holders only, there is a rush to apply for new cards, a department official told TOI. “We have been receiving a huge rush of applications from April, shortly after political parties promised freebies in their poll manifesto. On enquiry, we found many of the applications to be fake.”
It looks like the applicants decided to apply as they would get freebies regardless of which party wins the election, added the official. But the huge number of applications also meant work for the staff. “We do not have enough personnel to verify all these applications. One of the houses I went to had a separate card for the wife and another in the name of the mother-in-law. When questioned, she said her mother-in-law lived next door in a separate house and she had given her the card as she had stepped out. But when I checked next door, I found a different family living there. It’s very difficult to verify all this.”
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Tiruchi: Income tax officials quizzed jailed former telecom minister A Raja’s wife and brother in Tiruchi on Friday.
Summoned by the IT officials for an enquiry, Raja’s wife M A Parameswari flew down from New Delhi and came to the IT office on Williams Road around 10.30am accompanied by Raja’s elder brother A Ramachandran and two other relatives. Though only Parameswari was summoned by the IT officials, Ramachandran also chose to accompany her, besides three auditors.
IT officials in Tiruchi as well Chennai were tightlipped about the nature of enquiry and what Parameswari told them during the interrogation that lasted for more than three
hours. A senior IT official said it was just a routine enquiry, but declined to divulge more information. Sources in the IT department said Parameswari was quizzed in the run-up to the preparation of the third chargesheet in the 2G spectrum allocation scam.
Parameswari, one of the directors of Green House Promoters, a realty firm set up by Raja’s deceased aide Sadhick Batcha, is suspected by the CBI to be privy to information regarding the kickbacks received for 2G spectrum allocations and the money trail thereafter. The IT officials, during the course of the interrogation, also sought details about the IT returns filed by Parameswari as well as Raja.
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Chief minister J. Jayalalithaa has termed the fuel price hike as ‘unacceptable’ and demanded its immediate rollback.

“The price of LPG, which is used by all people, has been increased by Rs 50 a cylinder.

The public cannot tolerate this. Besides, kerosene price has hiked by Rs 2, which will badly hit the poor people as they are the main consumers of kerosene,” she said in a statement here.

The chief minister said the diesel price hike by Rs 3 a litre would have a cascading effect on the prices of most commodities, including vegetables, as they are transported by road. Also it would result in transport fares thereby severely affecting the poor.

“When there is already an overall increase in prices, this fuel price hike will severely hit the people,” Ms Jayalalithaa said, demanding that the Centre must ‘immediately’ rollback these hikes.

The chief minister said with the Centre permitting the oil companies to revise fuel prices themselves, the firms have been hiking their prices “now and then” thereby hitting badly the motorists, particularly those from the middle class. As for the diesel cost hike, it was bound to affect the poor most, she said.

Slamming the Centre for advising the state governments to reduce Value Added Tax (VAT), she said the Union government, which hiked the fuel costs, “has no moral right to advice state governments to reduce VAT.”

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/jayalalithaa-demands-rollback-%E2%80%98unacceptable%E2%80%99-fuel-prices-hike-506

Gas Cylinder price increased by 50 Rs

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so finally this congress gvt has increased the diesel price again!

indirectly it will increase all commodities used by people for day to day life.

RTC looses will shoot up

railways will sink in looses

Diesel price 2004 25.35 INR

Diesel price 2011 40.17 INR

wow! India is growing and also its GDP!

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http://www.international-fuel-prices.com/downloads/ASEANFuelPrices2005.pdf

so developed countries have more fuel prices than developing or under developed countries? whats the economic behind this!

I request mod to move the CBE, Madurai, Trichy and Salem concerned threads to sub folder.

Arul,

On gdp, india growing,, see todays mint article. posting just starting paras

Key economic data released by the government on Friday shows that the first stint of the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) generated a mere 400,000 jobs a year, compared with 12 million jobs annually during the tenure of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led coalition, the National Democratic Alliance (NDA).

During the period 2004-05 to 2009-10, growth in the economy averaged 8.43%, delivering the politically uncomfortable message: jobless growth.


http://www.livemint.com/2011/06/25005607/UPA8217s-legacy-jobless-gr.html

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http://www.international-fuel-prices.com/downloads/ASEANFuelPrices2005.pdf

so developed countries have more fuel prices than developing or under developed countries? whats the economic behind this!

Guess more people can afford that in developed countries.

VS007 is a ADMK guy, who pretends as a DMK partymen in our (and various) forums to gauge public reaction (aka feeler / pheelinge) on DMK. Hope that explains how he got those dates from JJ :lol:

Ha ha ha :lol: Good one!

I root for industrialization of TN and support whichever party leader shows inclination in that direction.
I remember one post where I listed cons of both parties, and few partymen accepted criticism of opposite parties and defended their thalaivar or puratchithalaivi in some case. :lol:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/japanese-envoy-donates-rs-45-lakh/162511-60-118.html

In a touching gesture, the Consul-General of Japan at Chennai Masanori Nakano, appeared amid destitute old men and women at a nondescript hamlet called Vilvarayanallur near Madurantakam, some 65-km from Kancheepuram on Thursday to dedicate a new building to them.

Nakano was accompanied by Keiko Kotani, Economic Development Researcher, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Japan, and Kayoko Furukawa, Consul, Consulate-General of Japan at Chennai.

The Japanese government had donated Rs 45 lakh to build a home for the aged and a daycare centre at the underdeveloped village, and the Consul-General was present to dedicate the 7,350 sq ft building comprising 13 rooms that can accommodate 50 senior citizens.

As many as 30 senior citizens who are drawn from the nearby villages started a new lease of an honorable life in the new two-storey structure that also houses a daycare centre planned to accommodate about 100 senior citizens.

Inaugurating the new building, Masanori Nakano said he was happy to have played a role in helping the poor.

“My own country is fast recovering from the shock, but after every tragedy we emerge stronger than ever, and hence, we know what pain is all about,” he said, referring to the massive earthquake and the devastating Tsunami on March 11. Run by the Duraisamy General Social Education Association (DGSEA), the home for the aged had been functioning from a dilapidated, tiled structure for well over three decades, and has now moved to a new structure under the GGP (Grant Assistance for Grassroots Projects) Scheme of the people and government of Japan, said the Consul General.

DGSEA is also fulfilling the school’s needs like uniforms, fees and food for 42 destitute students studying from Classes 1 to 10 at the nearby V Krishnamurthy Secondary School.

Two outstanding students of the school — N Divakaran and M Dhakshayini — were presented with a purse of Rs 10,000 each.

The institution is also running two creche units to take care of children of working women, and a Corporation Bank-run ATM for the benefit of the uneducated rural women who operate on a biometric system.

so developed countries have more fuel prices than developing or under developed countries? whats the economic behind this!

I am no expert in petrol pricing, but i just some basic math on prices.. The base cost of petroleum would be less but the taxes are one of the main constituents in the final price of petro products. Honestly we pay around 50% of the final price in taxes.

a barrell is around 155-160 litres.. now the price of a barrel is say so it means each litre is /litre which is Rs.29/litre.

Somewhere i read the cost of refining is Rs. 6/litre (the cost could go down to Rs.5.5/litre if advanced refining techniques are used..)

So add to that which comes to a price of Rs.35/litre.. I think the petrol price in chennai is around Rs.69/litre (which is almost double the cost of production price..), which means we pay 50% more in taxes(there are different kind of taxes from CG to SG which adds up)..

Hence, if oil companies raise the cost of petrol by one rupee, the taxes cost u another one rupee which means u pay 2 rupee as an effect. Though the crude prices keep increasing/decreasing I never found that prices getting dropped whenever the crude price decreases.. I am eager to know how much money companies like ONGC, IOL, BP, HPCL, RIL make at the end of year.

In other words, the govt gets more money everytime it rises the fuel prices but if it can, it can reduce the taxes and still earn the same money without passing on the burden to the end consumers.. And guess what, Diesel is subsidised in India thats why its cost is lower..

Edit: The main tax split ups are : Excise duty, Education Tax, Dealer commission, VAT, Crude Oil Custom duty, Petrol Custom, Transportation Charge, State govt taxes

We have moved the city specific threads to the respective Sub Forums.

Can we move the following threads also into sub forums ? Your opinions Please.

into Madurai Sub Forum:
virudhunagar
kanyakumari
tuticorin
thirunelveli
dindigul-karur
karaikudi sivaganga


into Coimbatore Sub Forum:
Nilgiris
Tiruppur
Erode


into Salem Sub Forum:
Namakkal (already done)
Hosur
Dharmapuri, Krishnagiri


into Trichy Sub Forum:
Tanjore, Nagai
Cauary Delta Region

When the number of postings & quality of the content justify, we can create new sub forums for the developing smaller cities / districts.

Moderators' Decision is final

^^ That will empty the TN forum except for few general topics and the reason for creating city subforums is getting hit here.

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what about city buses ?. They still keep the ticket price as 5.50 or 7.25.

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/06/24/Article//102/24_06_2011_102_002.jpg

what about city buses ?. They still keep the ticket price as 5.50 or 7.25.

At present no transport corporation has tickets with denomination of 25 paise, all are in the denomination of 50 paise and 1 rupees only.:)

friends i have one query..

regarding free mixie, grinder and fan whether the govt is planning to give to all families in TN or it is just for poor people???

i searched for this in many places but i dint get proper information. thanks in advance...

wow! India is growing and also its GDP!

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http://www.international-fuel-prices.com/downloads/ASEANFuelPrices2005.pdf

so developed countries have more fuel prices than developing or under developed countries? whats the economic behind this!

The increase in prices is inevitable, even any other government would have done the same, but the magnitude of price rise is a matter of concern. 50 RS for a cylinder is objectionable, if at all they need to increase the price they should have risen the prices in small increments over a period of time.

The prices are higher in developed countries because of many reasons

1) Population (the break even model posted by you in Tamil nadu buses thread for salem-chennai service is a good example)

2) Economic policy (in developed countries increase in fuel prices will have an effect on inflation, but because individual income in developed countries are higher and the subsidies given to slacken the effect works perfectly

3) Mindset of people (we spend more on health care when compared to developed countries, but we won't like our fuel prices to escalate)

4) Political reasons

friends i have one query..

regarding free mixie, grinder and fan whether the govt is planning to give to all families in TN or it is just for poor people???

i searched for this in many places but i dint get proper information. thanks in advance...

I think that will be the twist that JJ will use in the near future.:) The H muthirai will be back :banana: But it is perfect to offer those freebies to H muthirai ration cards. But even there many individual households illegally have multiple ration cards. There should be a process to filter out.

Can we move the following threads also into sub forums ? Your opinions Please.

into Madurai Sub Forum:
virudhunagar
kanyakumari
tuticorin
thirunelveli
dindigul-karur
karaikudi sivaganga


into Coimbatore Sub Forum:
Nilgiris
Tiruppur
Erode


into Salem Sub Forum:
Namakkal (already done)
Hosur
Dharmapuri, Krishnagiri


into Trichy Sub Forum:
Tanjore, Nagai
Cauary Delta Region

When the number of postings & quality of the content justify, we can create new sub forums for the developing smaller cities / districts.

Moderators' Decision is final

Anyone who is new to the forum will not scroll down to see the lower part of Tn forum:). All the subforum should be placed as horizontal grids rather than placing them vertically. This creates a space so that the lower part of TN forums will be visible without the need to scroll down.:)

I am not against the above model of clubbing, but what i feel is, it will not serve the purpose of reorg. For ex tuticorin and tiruneveli don't have any other threads, so all the posts related to those cities will be posted only there. So they will remain at the top most of the time rather than the main city subforums. This will not be a problem for Trichy , salem or CBE because the erode, thanjai, namakkal, tiruppur aren't active like tuticorin or tirunelveli.
It will be a problem only for MDU thread. But if mods and our fellow forumers in nellai, tuticorin and MDU feel that they need to club them, i will appreciate doing that.:)

I think that will be the twist that JJ will use in the near future.:) The H muthirai will be back :banana: But it is perfect to offer those freebies to H muthirai ration cards. But even there many individual households illegally have multiple ration cards. There should be a process to filter out.


i seriously hope and feel that the present govt doesn't give free fan, mixie and grinder to all families in TN.may be all people can use fan. but what people will do with 2 mixie and 2 grinders when they already have one. it will be a total waste of money.

jaya should not do the same mistake what MK did by giving TV to all people( even to rich people he gave thereby simply wasting money). she should give only to very poor people who dont have mixie and grinder in their house.

i seriously hope and feel that the present govt doesn't give free fan, mixie and grinder to all families in TN.may be all people can use fan. but what people will do with 2 mixie and 2 grinders when they already have one. it will be a total waste of money.

jaya should not do the same mistake what MK did by giving TV to all people( even to rich people he gave thereby simply wasting money). she should give only to very poor people who dont have mixie and grinder in their house.

All people having H muthirai ration cards can't afford to buy mixie or grinder and it should be given to them, that's what my stand. But those having fake/duplicate/multiple H muthirai ration cards have to be filtered out before implementing the scheme.:)

del

All people having H muthirai ration cards can't afford to buy mixie or grinder and it should be given to them, that's what my stand. But those having fake/duplicate/multiple H muthirai ration cards have to be filtered out before implementing the scheme.:)


ya even my stand is that only. i totally agree with you....but what jaya is thinking of doing??

ya even my stand is that only. i totally agree with you....but what jaya is thinking of doing??

we have to wait and see....:) Hope she doesn't deplete the kajana and put pressure on govt employees as she did in the previous regime.

Rajakannapan contested against pa chidambaram in 2009 lok sabha election and lost(???). he filed a case against pa chidambaram in madras high court which is still pending. and we all know how chidambaram won. now he has filed another case against victory of previous hindu endowment depart minister periakaruppan in tiruppatur constituency in madras high court.



http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/06/21/Article//012/21_06_2011_012_003.jpg

how to embed videos? whats the tag, tried video tag not working.

i am quoting 2 news paper items which i feel indicates that jaya will give free mixie, grinder and fan to all ration card holders in TN.

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/06/21/Article//005/21_06_2011_005_013.jpg

and

http://epaper.dinamalar.com/PUBLICATIONS/DM/DINAMALAR/2011/06/24/Article//001/24_06_2011_001_007.jpg

how to embed videos? whats the tag, tried video tag not working.

From which site?

This should help
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/misc.php?do=bbcode

how to embed videos? whats the tag, tried video tag not working.

just like image sytax use youtube syntax and insert the youtube code (only the last letters)

for example this is the code twM-_4-KGWs for this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twM-_4-KGWs&feature=player_embedded

Thanks arul and vic.

On price rise, i still remember arun jaitley speech last year in parliament. there in yout tube. one of the best speeches i heard. best minds of country in rajya sabha. So rajya sabha pleasure to watch.

he pointed out rates of fuel in neighbhouring countries which produce and procure oil in much lesser quantity and yet their fuel price is half or less than half of what we have. how.

he said that total tax collection for last yr was 1lakh 50000 cr or something.

our govt doesnt fix target revenue and wor around. greedy govt. then they will have nregs and other stupid schemes which further fuel inflation.
budget for that will be like 50000 cr. many vetti schemes like that.


where is .4 million job creation with all this vetti schemes and 12 million and above potential in our country?

instead if they fix 70000 cr tax from oil enough,that will

do great help in controlling price. that will also mean people can buy veggies fruits,milk, egg etc more. thats basic sustenance.

Root cause of price rise is 2 - NAC and their stupid policies. 2 futures trading in essentials currently.

The pm is sitting on the report submitted by cm's on price rise. 1st point was this futures trading.

There is no fiscal jurisprudence. once in 4 months finance min or pm will set new target on bringing inflation down. never comes down. only goes up.

new target is march of next year and are asking for praying for rains. why the hell is then so many economists in cabinet.?

Here is the video. of the must listen speech. entire two parts must listen


on food inflation - after 2 min

on oil after 5:50. must listen

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we have to wait and see....:) Hope she doesn't deplete the kajana and put pressure on govt employees as she did in the previous regime.

Hope government employees also work for the people this time for the salary that they get out of our money.

Summa tea kada ponama, office 11 manikku vandhama, lanjam vangumananu vela parthukuttu irukanga. Idhukku pension vera

Hope government employees also work for the people this time for the salary that they get out of our money.

Summa tea kada ponama, office 11 manikku vandhama, lanjam vangumananu vela parthukuttu irukanga. Idhukku pension vera

But there also service minded,honest workers and they also give a part of their salaries to poor. There are also another group of workers who are honest but are threatened to accept bribe.

The one u mention are those who are close to political or caste based groups. These people easily evade departmental actions. When TESMA was enacted, these people weren't affected so much, but those who are honest, service minded are affected a lot.

Hope government employees also work for the people this time for the salary that they get out of our money.

Summa tea kada ponama, office 11 manikku vandhama, lanjam vangumananu vela parthukuttu irukanga. Idhukku pension vera

raman andalum ravanan andalum namma oppicers appadi thaan irupanga! so we cannot have any hope on that part who ever rule.

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^^^^ Not only officers even governors.. that too TN governor; Surjit singh barnala's grandson has taken the tender for most of the works in Anna univ, IITs. EX, he took tender to install CCTV cameras in A.C tech campus, Anna Univ. I saw the video output, if someone stands before the camera, it appears as a ghost standing before the camera, then what is the real use of the camera.

1.5 years back they accused a distant education student for robbery with this CCTv evidence and students staged a protest in front of the univ. But when the HOD submitted the evidence oore siruchichu (there was of course a person but u can't even know whether he is wearing spectacles or not, sooper clarity:lol:). Even a 1.3 MP laptop camera has a better resolution.Somehow or the other they prevented this news leaking to media.

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How many families would have been benefited out of that figure?

My guess is that 90% of the money would not have benefited more than 300 families (Those involved and sidekicks)

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Sushma meets JJ - Foundation for new alliance

Sushma and Jayalalithaa forge alliance to retrieve Katchatheevu

The leader of opposition in Lok Sabha and the BJP Leader Sushma Swaraj called on the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa after attending a party meeting in Chennai. The leaders discussed various matters for half an hour. The main issues included the atrocities of Srilankan Navy on the Indian fishermen.

Already in February 2011 Sushma Swaraj had condemned the casual attitude of Congress Government for the killing of Indian fishermen by Srilankan Navy. A group of concerned people had sent a detailed note to the opposition leader in this regard. http://www.savetnfishermen.org/?p=124

In total 543 Indian Tamil fishermen have been killed by Srilankan Navy, . 2000 fishermen have been disabled and 700 fishermen went missing. But the policy makers in Indian Government advise the Congress led Indian Government not to take action on Srilanka out of fear of alliance between China and Srilanka. The Congress party has not still come out of its historic mistake of following a wrong policy towards China as it followed in 1962. Just like ceding a large tracts of territory to China due to poor strategic planning the Congress Governments believe that they have done a right decision about ceding Katchathhevu to Srilanka.

The Katchatheevu which belongs to Tamil Nadu according to old revenue records was ceded to Sril anka without getting consent from the Government of Tamil nadu. Moreover the island was handed over to Srilanka illegally without the approval of Indian Parliament. The Indian fishermen have been fishing in the area for thousands of years. But after ceding the island to Srilanka Indian fishermen have been attacked and killed by Srilanka. Indian Government has not even condemned the Srilankan Government on such incidents . This has encouraged the racist Srilankan Government to continue its barbaric activities.

The previous DMK Government under the leadership of M. Karunanidhi was not able to influence the Congress party either to save srilankan Tamils or the Indian fishermen. Due to this the DMK and Congress alliance was defeated in the assembly elections held in 2011 and in a silent democratic revolution the AIADMK Leader J.Jayalalithaa captured power in the state with the overwhelming support of Fishermen community.

Immediately after assuming power the Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa passed a resolution in the state assembly on imposition of economic sanctions on the island nation and the retrieval of Katchathivu ceded to Sri Lanka in 1974.

During the meeting with the Tamil nadu Chief Minister J.Jayalalitha, the leader of opposition party in Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj has asked for a copy of this historic resolution. On return to Delhi, Sushma Swaraj shall raise this issue in Parliament.

This is considered to be very significant on two accounts. First, any discussion in Indian parliament to retrieve katchatheevu at this stage can put a check to Srilankan Navy in this area. Second the political fall out of this important meeting. This may be the beginning of an alliance of AIADMK with BJP. If BJP returns to power in the next parliamentary election removing the Congress party which is close ally of Srilankan President Mahinda Rajapakse, retrieval of Katchatheevu shall be possible. Moreover the ill conceived foreign policy towards Srilanka followed by Congress party shall be reversed to the benefit of Srilankan Tamils.

Source (http://truthdive.com/2011/06/25/sushma-and-jayalalithaa-forge-alliance-to-retrieve-katchatheevu.html)

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Lift ban on LTTE, demand MDMK lawyers

A State-level lawyers' conference of the Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (MDMK), held here on Saturday called upon the Centre to lift the ban on the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

Terming the ban unjust, a resolution adopted at the conference attended by MDMK general secretary Vaiko urged the Centre to recognise the right to self-determination of Sri Lankan Tamils. The LTTE reflected the rightful aspiration for freedom of Sri Lankan Tamils. The demand and struggle for separate Eelam was taken forward by the organisation only after the situation deteriorated to a level where Tamils were not able to co-exist with the Sinhalese, the resolution stated.

The conference also demanded that India sever its diplomatic ties with Sri Lanka. India should no longer support the Mahinda Rajapaksa government, which is facing allegations of committing war crimes. All agreements with Sri Lanka should be annulled. India should take a stand against Sri Lanka in the United Nations, the resolution demanded.

The party also called for a change in the electoral system in the country and suggested moving over to a system of proportional representation as emphasised by former Chief Minister Anna.

Under the existing system, a candidate who gets the support of just 35 per cent of the electorate emerges victorious though more than 60 per cent of voters opt for other candidates. This, the resolution said, was not good for democracy and effectively denied a place for minorities and smaller parties with divergent views in the Legislature.

Through other resolutions the conference demanded changing the name of the Madras High Court into Tamil Nadu High Court; appointment of judges separately for the Madurai Bench instead of the current system of posting judges on rotation from the Madras High Court, permission for arguing cases in Tamil in the High Court and filling of all vacant posts of judges in various courts

Sushma meets JJ - Foundation for new alliance

Sushma and Jayalalithaa forge alliance to retrieve Katchatheevu

The leader of opposition in Lok Sabha and the BJP Leader Sushma Swaraj called on the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa after attending a party meeting in Chennai. The leaders discussed various matters for half an hour. The main issues included the atrocities of Srilankan Navy on the Indian fishermen.

Already in February 2011 Sushma Swaraj had condemned the casual attitude of Congress Government for the killing of Indian fishermen by Srilankan Navy. A group of concerned people had sent a detailed note to the opposition leader in this regard. http://www.savetnfishermen.org/?p=124

In total 543 Indian Tamil fishermen have been killed by Srilankan Navy, . 2000 fishermen have been disabled and 700 fishermen went missing. But the policy makers in Indian Government advise the Congress led Indian Government not to take action on Srilanka out of fear of alliance between China and Srilanka. The Congress party has not still come out of its historic mistake of following a wrong policy towards China as it followed in 1962. Just like ceding a large tracts of territory to China due to poor strategic planning the Congress Governments believe that they have done a right decision about ceding Katchathhevu to Srilanka.

The Katchatheevu which belongs to Tamil Nadu according to old revenue records was ceded to Sril anka without getting consent from the Government of Tamil nadu. Moreover the island was handed over to Srilanka illegally without the approval of Indian Parliament. The Indian fishermen have been fishing in the area for thousands of years. But after ceding the island to Srilanka Indian fishermen have been attacked and killed by Srilanka. Indian Government has not even condemned the Srilankan Government on such incidents . This has encouraged the racist Srilankan Government to continue its barbaric activities.

The previous DMK Government under the leadership of M. Karunanidhi was not able to influence the Congress party either to save srilankan Tamils or the Indian fishermen. Due to this the DMK and Congress alliance was defeated in the assembly elections held in 2011 and in a silent democratic revolution the AIADMK Leader J.Jayalalithaa captured power in the state with the overwhelming support of Fishermen community.

Immediately after assuming power the Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa passed a resolution in the state assembly on imposition of economic sanctions on the island nation and the retrieval of Katchathivu ceded to Sri Lanka in 1974.

During the meeting with the Tamil nadu Chief Minister J.Jayalalitha, the leader of opposition party in Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj has asked for a copy of this historic resolution. On return to Delhi, Sushma Swaraj shall raise this issue in Parliament.

This is considered to be very significant on two accounts. First, any discussion in Indian parliament to retrieve katchatheevu at this stage can put a check to Srilankan Navy in this area. Second the political fall out of this important meeting. This may be the beginning of an alliance of AIADMK with BJP. If BJP returns to power in the next parliamentary election removing the Congress party which is close ally of Srilankan President Mahinda Rajapakse, retrieval of Katchatheevu shall be possible. Moreover the ill conceived foreign policy towards Srilanka followed by Congress party shall be reversed to the benefit of Srilankan Tamils.

Source (http://truthdive.com/2011/06/25/sushma-and-jayalalithaa-forge-alliance-to-retrieve-katchatheevu.html)

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the meeting has set tongues wagging. looks like bjp has started reaching out to other parties.. they shld get jaya,cb naidu and naveen patnaik on to their NDA fold soon.

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Anything other than congress would be good for TN. But on TN fisherman issue, the present gvt also doing the same letter business like past gvt.

MDMK Nanjil Sampath has suggested to deploy armed TN police with the fisherman gang to protect them during fishing period since congress gvt never considered or going to consider the safety of TN fisherman for appeasing the Island.

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Strong religious belief and spirituality coupled with sky-rocketing demand from fashion-conscious Western women has made India the world-leader in the hair extension trade.

The South Asian country has long been the world's biggest exporter of human hair and companies involved in the sector estimate that the business is now worth up to 8.5 billion rupees (nearly $200 million) a year.

Hair is offered as a sacrifice to the hundreds of thousands of gods in the Hindu pantheon for reasons as diverse as wanting to ward off ill-health and misfortune or to bring luck and fortune.

The practice is common in southern India, especially at temples in Tamil Nadu state where people from all over the country come to be shaved.

But those in the hair trade that feeds off the ritual fear for the future, as modern India changes on the back of its recent economic boom, opening up the vast country to more secular, consumerist pursuits and outside influences.

"There has been a change or trend in the reduction of the younger generation going to the temple and tonsuring their hair," said George Cherian, chief executive of Raj Hair International in the state capital Chennai.

"They might cut their hair length half-way through but not necessarily fully shave their hair," he told AFP TV.

For now though, business remains brisk.

On a religious festival day, up to 1,000 people, including 50 to 60 women, undergo the ritual at the Tiruttani temple north of Chennai.

Indian women like Anandi Perumalswamy are the mainstay of the industry, even if their lives are a world away from the fancy salons in the United States and Europe, where demand for hair extensions is highest.

"Our favourite god is Lord Muruga. We had lots of problems, like debt, many types of problems," said Perumalswamy, a 45-year-old mother-of-two.

"I had prayed for my son to get married. I had promised that if he gets married, then I would offer my hair."

The marriage took place a few months ago and so she came to Tiruttani to uphold her part of the bargain.

Tonnes of tresses are cut every day and mostly sold at auction to wholesalers, which then prepare and export them for use across the world.

The practice has even become a lucrative sideline for temples, who use the money raised for charitable activities. Some suppliers have also gone into business themselves, cutting out the need for wholesalers.

The vogue for hair extensions among Hollywood actresses like Gwyneth Paltrow and other celebrities has pushed up demand for the beauty product.

Cheaper synthetic hair was popular in the 1990s and caused a slump in business for Indian firms but human hair is now favoured, adding to its market value.

Currently one kilogram of Indian hair fetches on average $250: 15 years ago the cost was $20 per kilo, said Cherian.

The most expensive type is "remy" hair, which is shaved directly from the scalp. It makes up 25 percent of the market; "non-remy" hair, which accounts for the rest, comes from comb waste.

"Indian hair is the most sought after for the only reason that it belongs to the same Caucasian race to start with," said Cherian.

"And the natural colour black matches the hair colour of the Africans as well as, when bleached... the colour of the Europeans or the Americans."

The end product is supplied to women like Fereena West, who goes to the ColourNation salon in central London, where a full head of natural Indian hair can cost more than $3,000 and take up to four hours to put in.

"The hair extensions that I get, they're quality. They're 100 percent human hair and they are quite expensive but you have to pay for what you get," said the 25-year-old part-time model.

At the exclusive michaeljohn salon, also in London, one client who gave her name only as Natasha said getting extensions was money well spent.

"It's about 600 pounds ($970), which includes the hair and the cost of the stylist, so for me, three times a year, it's worth it," she said.

"Hair extensions have become very popular because celebrities like (the singer and television presenter) Cheryl Cole have them and it's become more known.

"But I actually think it applies to an awful lot of people and not just celebrities. I think a lot of people have them because it's stylish and because it helps the hair look good."

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Anything other than congress would be good for TN. But on TN fisherman issue, the present gvt also doing the same letter business like past gvt.

MDMK Nanjil Sampath has suggested to deploy armed TN police with the fisherman gang to protect them during fishing period since congress gvt never considered or going to consider the safety of TN fisherman for appeasing the Island.

Good idea:) But if that is implemented then it will be a big shame for Indian costal guard. Also even after that if sri lankan navy fires at TN police then it will be a big shame for India and the diplomatic ties between India and sri lanka becomes problematic. To prevent such an unprecedented situation the congress govt tolerates these things

BTW whether the state govt has the power and authority to deploy its own forces in the international maritime boundary

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MDMK Nanjil Sampath has suggested to deploy armed TN police with the fisherman gang to protect them during fishing period since congress gvt never considered or going to consider the safety of TN fisherman for appeasing the Island.

Why SL Navy fires at Indian Fishermen is that they cross the Martime boundry and venture into Lankan waters. So sending TN police would be of no use, instead getting back Katchathevu ceded to Lanka is the only solution if the interest of fishermen need to be secured.

Regards,
Subbu

Why SL Navy fires at Indian Fishermen is that they cross the Martime boundry and venture into Lankan waters. So sending TN police would be of no use, instead getting back Katchathevu ceded to Lanka is the only solution if the interest of fishermen need to be secured.

Regards,
Subbu

International maritime boundary starts 10 or 15 kms from the coastline of a country. No army can claim anything in international maritime boundary. any country's vessels can enter that area. But from Indian coastline near Rameshwaram, this overlaps exactly at katchatheevu. As mentioned by subbu this is were the problem lies. Before katchatheevu was given there was no overlap for us, but it was for lanka.

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photo of candle light vigil currently on at marina .

meanwhile

An Indian Navy ship on a patrol turned out to be the saviour of a large group of fishermen from here when they were allegedly being chased by Sri Lankan naval men close to the International Maritime Boundary Line (IMBL), fisheries officials said in Rameshwaram.

The fishermen had put out to sea in more than 600 boats on Saturday after calling off their three-day old strike protesting detention of 23 fellow fishermen by Sri Lankan Navy on June 20.

As they reached the area close to IMBL, they were chased away by Sri Lankan naval personnel who came in their patrol boats, the officials said quoting the fishermen who returned to the shores in the wee hours on Sunday.

However, the Sri Lankan naval men retreated on seeing the Indian Navy ship, they said, adding that the fishermen also told them they were able to fish without any trouble thereafter.

"We could fish without any problem till midnight and return to the shore," one of the fishermen told officials.

The fishermen had a good catch as they put out to the sea after a gap of four days, officials said.

Navy and Coast Guard officials said they have intensified patrolling in the region in the wake of arrest of the 23 fishermen by Sri Lankan naval men.

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa had taken up the fishermen arrest issue with Prime Minister and sought his intervention following which Sri Lanka assured that the fishermen would be released soon.

The Rameswaram fishermen withdrew their strike after talks with district and fisheries officials on June 23.

Recurring attacks on Tamil Nadu fishermen allegedly by Sri Lankan Navy had been an issue for a long time. Sri Lanka accused the fishermen of crossing the IMBL and fishing in the island waters, offering rich fish wealth.


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there was message in twitter by a journos that fishermen in captivity were moved to anuradhapura frm vavuniya

Important speeches in Nellai DMK party meeting

Atendees: Former assembly speaker Avudiyappan, poongothai, malairaja, mayor L subramanian, karuppasamy pandian, TPM mohideen khan, Vagai muthalagan

1) Vagai muthalagan Stalin is getting old (60 years) so Kanimozhi will be the next CM :lol:

2) Congress responsible for DMKs defeat.

தேர்தல் தோல்விக்கு காங்கிரஸ் காரணம் : நெல்லை கூட்டத்தில் தி.மு.க., கடும் தாக்கு

""சட்டசபை தேர்தலில் தோல்விக்கு காரணம் காங்கிரஸ்தான். அந்த கட்சியை முன்பே கழற்றிவிட்டிருக்கவேண்டும்,'' என நெல்லையில் நடந்த ஆலோசனை கூட்டத்தில், தி.மு.க., நிர்வாகிகள் தெரிவித்தனர். திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்டத்தில் மொத்தமுள்ள 10 தொகுதிகளில், 9 தொகுதிகளில் தி.மு.க., அணி தோல்வியுற்றது.

தி.மு.க., முன்னாள் எம்.எல்.ஏ.,க்கள், மாவட்ட செயலர், கட்சி நிர்வாகிகளின் ஆலோசனை கூட்டம் நெல்லை சங்கீதசபாவில் நடந்தது. மாவட்ட செயலர் கருப்பசாமிபாண்டியன் தலைமை வகித்தார். முன்னாள் சபாநாயகர் ஆவுடையப்பன், முன்னாள் அமைச்சர்கள் மைதீன்கான், பூங்கோதை, எம்.எல்.ஏ.,க்கள் அப்பாவு, மாலைராஜா, மேயர் சுப்பிரமணியன் உள்ளிட்டோர் பங்கேற்றனர்.

மாநில பேச்சாளர் வாகை முத்தழகன்: வழக்கமாக எந்த கூட்டத்திற்கும் அனைத்து தலைவர்களும் வந்ததில்லை. தோல்விக்கு காரணம், கட்சித் தொண்டர்களுக்கு எதுவும் செய்யாததுதான். மாவட்டத்தில் குறிப்பிட்ட ஜாதியினருக்குத்தான் கட்சியில் அதிகம் முக்கியத்துவம் தரப்படுகிறது. மாவட்ட செயலர் கருப்பசாமிபாண்டியனின் ஆதரவாளர்கள் இன்றைக்கு நெல்லை மாவட்ட அமைச்சரான இசக்கிசுப்பையாவின் பின்னால் அணிவகுத்து செல்கிறார்கள். சபாநாயகர் ஆவுடையப்பனின் மகன் பிரபாகரன், கட்சிக்காரர்களை மதிப்பதில்லை. சங்கரன்கோவில் தங்கவேலுக்கு எம்.பி., பதவி வழங்கப்பட்டது. அவர், சங்கரன்கோவிலை விட்டு வேறு எங்கேயும் வருவதேயில்லை. பின்னர் எப்படி கட்சி வளரும். இளைஞர் அணி தளபதி என கூறும் ஸ்டாலினுக்கு 60 வயது ஆகிவிட்டது. கண் தெரியாதவர், காது கேட்காதவர்களையெல்லாம் இளைஞர் அணியில் வைத்திருந்தால் கட்சி எப்படி வளரும். சிறையில் இருக்கும் கனிமொழிதான் தமிழகத்தின் அடுத்த முதல்வர்.

கருப்பசாமிபாண்டியன்: இன்றைக்கு காங்கிரசார் நம்மை குறைகூறுகிறார்கள். நாம் அந்த கட்சியுடன் கூட்டணியில் தொடர்வதா இல்லையா என்பதை கட்சித் தலைமை முடிவெடுக்கும். இப்போது எடுக்கிற முடிவை கொஞ்சம் முன்பே எடுத்து காங்கிரசை கழற்றிவிட்டிருக்கலாம். இளைஞர் அணி, புண்ணாக்கு அணி என ஒன்றும் தெரியாதவர்களெல்லாம் தி.மு.க.,விற்கு அறிவுரை சொல்கிறார்கள். என் தொகுதியில், ஒரு பூத்துக்கு 75 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் பணம் கொடுத்தேன். ஆனால், பணம் வாங்கியவர்கள், மே 13ம் தேதி வரை ஆளையே காணோம். பல பூத்களில், நம் கட்சிக்கு ஏஜன்ட்டே இல்லை. வரும் உள்ளாட்சி தேர்தலில் தி.மு.க., போட்டியிட வேண்டாம் என்பதே என் கருத்து.

முன்னாள் சபாநாயகர் ஆவுடையப்பன்: நாம் பல திட்டங்களை செயல்படுத்தியிருந்தாலும் அதை மக்களுக்கு முறையாக சொல்லவில்லை. என் தொகுதியில் தி.மு.க.,வினர் பலர் எனக்கு எதிராக கட்சிப்பணிகளை செய்தார்கள். இதை தலைமைக்கு அனுப்பியிருக்கிறேன், நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கவேண்டும். இவ்வாறு அவர்கள் பேசினர்.

Source (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=264175)

http://www.bestmediainfo.com/2011/06/irs-q1-2011-top-10-dailies-in-tamil-nadu/

The first quarter results of Indian Readership Survey in 2010 have given a big relief to the Tamil newspapers where 6 out of top 10 dailies have registered growth over the last quarter; however, only one daily has shown growth in the state over the past one year. There are a couple of changes in the positions where Dinamani has taken over Malai Malar and The Times of India has replaced Deccan Chronicle to become 2nd largest read English daily in the state after The Hindu.

The largest read daily of Tamil Nadu ‘Daily Thanthi’ has retained its leadership and added 2.8% readers in the first quarter of IRS Q1 2011. The Tamil daily has registered an AIR of 69.86 lakh in IRS Q1 2011 as compared to 67.96 lakh in the last quarter and 71.95 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. Thus the paper has recorded a loss in its readership by 2.9% over the first quarter of last year.

The No.2 daily of the state ‘Dinakaran’ too has recorded 3.5% increase in its average issue readership (AIR) in the current survey. Its AIR now stands at 49.95 lakh as compared to 48.25 lakh in the previous quarter and 51.41 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. Overall, Dinakaran has also lost 2.8% readers over the last one year.

The 3rd major player in Tamil Nadu, ‘Dinamalar’ has also registered a marginal growth of 1.4% in the first quarter of IRS 2011. Its current AIR stands at 25.48 lakh as compared to 25.13 lakh in the previous quarter and 29.83 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. Thus, the paper has lost 14.5% readers over Q1 of IRS 2010.

Tamil Nadu as strong hold for ‘The Hindu’ has not been a fertile ground for the daily in the state for the consecutive 4 quarters. With a marginal loss of 1.6% readers, its AIR now stands at 10.65 lakh as compared to 10.82 lakh in the previous quarter and 11.54 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. The Hindu has seen an overall decline of 7.7% over the first quarter survey in last year.

The new No.5 daily of Tamil Nadu is ‘Dinamani’ which has replaced ‘Malai Malar’ by registering 19.6% growth in the first quarter of IRS Q1 2011. The newspaper has recorded an AIR of 4.76 lakh as compared to 3.98 lakh in the previous quarter and 5.36 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. Dinamani is still in the loss of 11% over Q1 2010.

Coming down to No.6 position, ‘Malai Malar’ has lost 4% readers in IRS Q1 2010. It has recorded an AIR of 4.11 lakh as compared to 4.28 lakh in the last survey findings and 6.06 lakh in IRS Q1 2010. It has recorded an overall loss of 32% over the past one year.

‘The Times of India’ has taken over ‘Deccan Chronicle’ to become the 2nd largest read English daily and No.7 newspaper of the state. TOI has recorded an AIR of 2.08 lakh as compared to 2.11 lakh in the previous quarter and 2.2 lakh in IRS Q1 2010.

At No.8 now, ‘Deccan Chronicle’ has seen a decline of 12.5% in the current survey. The daily has an AIR of 1.96 lakh readers in IRS Q1 2011 as compared to 2.24 lakh in the previous quarter and 2.70 lakh in Q1 2010.

The only newspaper in Tamil Nadu to register growth over the past one year is ‘The New Indian Express’ which has shown 20% growth in the current survey. Its current AIR stands at 1.32 lakh as compared to 1.1 lakh in the previous quarter and 1.12 lakh in Q1 2010.

‘Tamizh Murasu’ has an AIR of 1.14 lakh in IRS Q1 2011 as compared to 97,000 in IRS Q4 2010.

For moderator Attension.

My suggestion for some more modification in TN subforum.

Coimbatore:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Coimbatore Cityscapes, Coimbatore Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Madurai:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Madurai Views, Madurai Airport thread link as sticky no.1
3. Please unlock ring road thread and name it as Madurai Ring roads and Other roads Project updates

Trichy:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Trichy Cityscapes, Trichy Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Salem:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Salem Cityscapes thread link as sticky no.1
3. Please rename Infrastructure and Transportation thread as Salem City Transportation Updates (Railway, Bus and Airport)
4. Retail, Entertainment & Hospitality thread can have prefix Salem.

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Can we have separate flyover and bridges thread for these 4 cities?

Also on previous note, instead of grouping the thread in zone wise it can be done on the basis of previous unified district. i.e Namakkal thread can go to Salem forum and Tiruppur thread can go to Coimbatore forum. Erode/Thanjavur threads can stay in TN forum itself.

கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டத்தால் பலன் அடைந்தது தனியார்களே!: அன்புமணி
Source: Dinamani

சென்னை, ஜூன் 26: கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டத்தால் தனி நபர்களும், தனியார் மருத்துவமனைகளும்தான் அதிகமாகப் பயன்பெற்றன என்று முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சரும், பாமக இளைஞரணித் தலைவருமான அன்புமணி ராமதாஸ் கூறியுள்ளார்.

பாமகவின் அதிகாரப்பூர்வ தொலைக்காட்சிக்கு அன்புமணி ராமதாஸ் பேட்டி அளித்தார். அதன் விவரம்:

காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம்: கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம் நல்ல திட்டம். ஆனால் அதில் குறைகளும் உண்டு. என்னவென்றால் சுகாதாரம் என்பது மாநில அரசின் பொறுப்பு. அதில் காப்பீடும் அவசியம்தான் என்றாலும், எல்லாவற்றையும் காப்பீட்டிலேயே கொண்டு செல்ல முடியாது.

ஆயிரம் கோடி ரூபாய் நிதி ஒதுக்கப்பட்டால் அதில் 200 கோடி ரூபாயை மட்டும் காப்பீட்டுக்குக் கொடுங்கள். மீதி 800 கோடியை அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளில் முதலீடு செய்யுங்கள்.

அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளை நவீனப்படுத்தி, கருவிகள் கொடுத்து சிறப்பு நிபுணர்கள், மருத்துவர்கள், செவிலியர்கள் நியமனம் செய்து நவீன மருத்துவமனைகளாக மாற்ற வேண்டும். அதில் காப்பீடு ஓர் அங்கமாக இருக்க வேண்டும்.

ஆனால் கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம் முழுமையிலும் காப்பீடுதான். அதில் யார் அதிகமாகப் பயன்பெற்றார்கள் என்றால் தனி நபர்களும் தனியார் மருத்துவமனைகளும்தான். எங்களுடைய கருத்து என்னவென்றால் அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளில் அதிகம் முதலீடு செய்யப்பட வேண்டும், அதேசமயம் காப்பீடும் இருக்க வேண்டும்.

இலவச திட்டங்கள் ரத்து: நல்லவேளை 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டத்திற்கு கலைஞர் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டம் என்று பெயர் வைக்கப்படவில்லை. அதனால்தான் அந்த திட்டம் ரத்து செய்யப்படவில்லை. அது மத்திய அரசின் திட்டம். ரத்து செய்யவும் முடியாது.

எங்கள் கொள்கைப்படி இலவசங்கள் தேவையில்லை. இலவசங்கள் எங்கே இருக்க வேண்டும் என்றால் கல்வி, சுகாதாரம், விவசாயத்தில் இருக்க வேண்டும். :bash:

இந்த இலவசங்களைத் தவிர வேறு எந்த இலவசங்களும் மக்களுக்குக் கொடுக்கக் கூடாது. இலவச பிரிட்ஜ் கிரைண்டர், மிக்சி எதுவும் வேண்டாம். மக்களைச் சோம்பேறியாக்கும் திட்டங்கள் இவை. எனவே இலவசங்களை நிறுத்தி விடுங்கள் என்று நாங்கள் தொடர்ச்சியாகச் சொல்லி வருகிறோம்.:bash:


கோட்டைக்கு மாற்றம்: புதிய தலைமைச்செயலகம் கட்டுவதற்கு ரூ. 1,200 கோடி செலவு செய்யப்பட்டது. பிரம்மாண்டமான கட்டடம். அந்தக் கட்டடத்துக்கு நாங்கள் போகமாட்டோம் என்று அதிமுக அரசு சொல்கிறது. அதற்காகக் கூறும் காரணங்களும் சரியில்லை. இது மக்களுடைய வரிப் பணம். அதிமுகவுடைய பணமாக இருந்தால் போகவில்லை என்று முடிவு எடுக்கலாம்.

அதே சமயம், திமுக அரசு புதிய சட்டப்பேரவை கட்டிய இடம் சரியில்லை என்பது என்னுடைய கருத்து. சென்னைக்கு வெளியில் ஆயிரம் ஏக்கர் பரப்பளவில் சட்டப்பேரவை, முதல்வர் வீடு, அலுவலகம் மற்ற அமைச்சர்கள், அதிகாரிகள் வீடு, அலுவலகங்கள், அவர்களின் பிள்ளைகள் படிப்பதற்குப் பள்ளிக்கூடங்கள், கல்லூரிகள், விளையாட்டு மைதானங்கள் என எல்லாம் ஒரு மினி டவுன்ஷிப்போல செகரட்டேரியட் டவுன்ஷிப் மாதிரி கட்டியிருக்க வேண்டும். இது அடுத்த 100 ஆண்டுகளுக்குப் பயன் உள்ளதாக இருந்திருக்கும்.

குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனையாக்கலாம்: செயின்ட் ஜார்ஜ் கோட்டையில்தான் பேரவை நடைபெறும் என்றால், புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகக் கட்டடத்தை வீணடிக்கக் கூடாது. அதில் ஒரு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவனை, மகப்பேறு மருத்துவமனையைக் கொண்டு வரலாம். ஆசியாவிலேயே மிகப்பெரிய மருத்துவமனையாக அதைச் செயல்படுத்தலாம்.

சமச்சீர் கல்வியில் தரம் இல்லையா? நிச்சயமாகக் கிடையாது. எங்கேயாவது ஒரு தொடக்கம் வேண்டும் நமக்கு. இந்தக் கல்வித் திட்டம் நமக்கு ஒரு தொடக்கம். அதில் குறைகள் இருந்தாலும் அதைச் சரி செய்ய வேண்டும். அதை விடுத்து மொத்தமாக வேண்டாம் என்று சொல்லக்கூடாது. அரசாங்கம் நினைத்தால் செய்யலாம். சமச்சீர் கல்வி என்றால் அது ஒரு குறைவான தகுதி எனக் கூறுவதெல்லாம் தவறான கருத்து.

உறவு எப்படி? திமுகவுடன் உறவு சுமுகமாக உள்ளது. சட்டப்பேரவையைப் பொருத்தவரை பாமக நல்ல எதிர்க்கட்சியாகச் செயல்படும். எதிரிக் கட்சியாக இருக்க மாட்டோம்.

அரசாங்கம் நல்ல திட்டங்கள் கொண்டு வந்தால் வரவேற்போம். மக்களுக்கு எதிரான திட்டங்கள் கொண்டு வந்தால் போராடுவோம் என்றார் அன்புமணி.
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Anthar bulti by Chinna Maruthuvar Ayya.

கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டத்தால் பலன் அடைந்தது தனியார்களே!: அன்புமணி
Source:Dinamani

சென்னை, ஜூன் 26: கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டத்தால் தனி நபர்களும், தனியார் மருத்துவமனைகளும்தான் அதிகமாகப் பயன்பெற்றன என்று முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சரும், பாமக இளைஞரணித் தலைவருமான அன்புமணி ராமதாஸ் கூறியுள்ளார்.

பாமகவின் அதிகாரப்பூர்வ தொலைக்காட்சிக்கு அன்புமணி ராமதாஸ் பேட்டி அளித்தார். அதன் விவரம்:

காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம்: கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம் நல்ல திட்டம். ஆனால் அதில் குறைகளும் உண்டு. என்னவென்றால் சுகாதாரம் என்பது மாநில அரசின் பொறுப்பு. அதில் காப்பீடும் அவசியம்தான் என்றாலும், எல்லாவற்றையும் காப்பீட்டிலேயே கொண்டு செல்ல முடியாது.

ஆயிரம் கோடி ரூபாய் நிதி ஒதுக்கப்பட்டால் அதில் 200 கோடி ரூபாயை மட்டும் காப்பீட்டுக்குக் கொடுங்கள். மீதி 800 கோடியை அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளில் முதலீடு செய்யுங்கள்.

அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளை நவீனப்படுத்தி, கருவிகள் கொடுத்து சிறப்பு நிபுணர்கள், மருத்துவர்கள், செவிலியர்கள் நியமனம் செய்து நவீன மருத்துவமனைகளாக மாற்ற வேண்டும். அதில் காப்பீடு ஓர் அங்கமாக இருக்க வேண்டும்.

ஆனால் கலைஞர் காப்பீட்டுத் திட்டம் முழுமையிலும் காப்பீடுதான். அதில் யார் அதிகமாகப் பயன்பெற்றார்கள் என்றால் தனி நபர்களும் தனியார் மருத்துவமனைகளும்தான். எங்களுடைய கருத்து என்னவென்றால் அரசு மருத்துவமனைகளில் அதிகம் முதலீடு செய்யப்பட வேண்டும், அதேசமயம் காப்பீடும் இருக்க வேண்டும்.

இலவச திட்டங்கள் ரத்து: நல்லவேளை 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டத்திற்கு கலைஞர் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டம் என்று பெயர் வைக்கப்படவில்லை. அதனால்தான் அந்த திட்டம் ரத்து செய்யப்படவில்லை. அது மத்திய அரசின் திட்டம். ரத்து செய்யவும் முடியாது.

எங்கள் கொள்கைப்படி இலவசங்கள் தேவையில்லை. இலவசங்கள் எங்கே இருக்க வேண்டும் என்றால் கல்வி, சுகாதாரம், விவசாயத்தில் இருக்க வேண்டும். :bash:

இந்த இலவசங்களைத் தவிர வேறு எந்த இலவசங்களும் மக்களுக்குக் கொடுக்கக் கூடாது. இலவச பிரிட்ஜ் கிரைண்டர், மிக்சி எதுவும் வேண்டாம். மக்களைச் சோம்பேறியாக்கும் திட்டங்கள் இவை. எனவே இலவசங்களை நிறுத்தி விடுங்கள் என்று நாங்கள் தொடர்ச்சியாகச் சொல்லி வருகிறோம்.:bash:


கோட்டைக்கு மாற்றம்: புதிய தலைமைச்செயலகம் கட்டுவதற்கு ரூ. 1,200 கோடி செலவு செய்யப்பட்டது. பிரம்மாண்டமான கட்டடம். அந்தக் கட்டடத்துக்கு நாங்கள் போகமாட்டோம் என்று அதிமுக அரசு சொல்கிறது. அதற்காகக் கூறும் காரணங்களும் சரியில்லை. இது மக்களுடைய வரிப் பணம். அதிமுகவுடைய பணமாக இருந்தால் போகவில்லை என்று முடிவு எடுக்கலாம்.

அதே சமயம், திமுக அரசு புதிய சட்டப்பேரவை கட்டிய இடம் சரியில்லை என்பது என்னுடைய கருத்து. சென்னைக்கு வெளியில் ஆயிரம் ஏக்கர் பரப்பளவில் சட்டப்பேரவை, முதல்வர் வீடு, அலுவலகம் மற்ற அமைச்சர்கள், அதிகாரிகள் வீடு, அலுவலகங்கள், அவர்களின் பிள்ளைகள் படிப்பதற்குப் பள்ளிக்கூடங்கள், கல்லூரிகள், விளையாட்டு மைதானங்கள் என எல்லாம் ஒரு மினி டவுன்ஷிப்போல செகரட்டேரியட் டவுன்ஷிப் மாதிரி கட்டியிருக்க வேண்டும். இது அடுத்த 100 ஆண்டுகளுக்குப் பயன் உள்ளதாக இருந்திருக்கும்.

குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனையாக்கலாம்: செயின்ட் ஜார்ஜ் கோட்டையில்தான் பேரவை நடைபெறும் என்றால், புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகக் கட்டடத்தை வீணடிக்கக் கூடாது. அதில் ஒரு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவனை, மகப்பேறு மருத்துவமனையைக் கொண்டு வரலாம். ஆசியாவிலேயே மிகப்பெரிய மருத்துவமனையாக அதைச் செயல்படுத்தலாம்.

சமச்சீர் கல்வியில் தரம் இல்லையா? நிச்சயமாகக் கிடையாது. எங்கேயாவது ஒரு தொடக்கம் வேண்டும் நமக்கு. இந்தக் கல்வித் திட்டம் நமக்கு ஒரு தொடக்கம். அதில் குறைகள் இருந்தாலும் அதைச் சரி செய்ய வேண்டும். அதை விடுத்து மொத்தமாக வேண்டாம் என்று சொல்லக்கூடாது. அரசாங்கம் நினைத்தால் செய்யலாம். சமச்சீர் கல்வி என்றால் அது ஒரு குறைவான தகுதி எனக் கூறுவதெல்லாம் தவறான கருத்து.

உறவு எப்படி? திமுகவுடன் உறவு சுமுகமாக உள்ளது. சட்டப்பேரவையைப் பொருத்தவரை பாமக நல்ல எதிர்க்கட்சியாகச் செயல்படும். எதிரிக் கட்சியாக இருக்க மாட்டோம்.

அரசாங்கம் நல்ல திட்டங்கள் கொண்டு வந்தால் வரவேற்போம். மக்களுக்கு எதிரான திட்டங்கள் கொண்டு வந்தால் போராடுவோம் என்றார் அன்புமணி.
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Anthar bulti by Chinna Maruthuvar Ayya.

I know this guy belongs to caste based party...But points are gud

This thread is only for chatting and posting funny pics and saying some jokes...Not for discussing the flyovers or infra or airport on Madurai.

OK here we go

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It's a quite interesting thread...
But it should be in the Tamilnadu forum.

For moderator Attension.

My suggestion for some more modification in TN subforum.

Coimbatore:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Coimbatore Cityscapes, Coimbatore Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Madurai:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Madurai Views, Madurai Airport thread link as sticky no.1
3. Please unlock ring road thread and name it as Madurai Ring roads and Other roads Project updates

Trichy:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Trichy Cityscapes, Trichy Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Salem:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Salem Cityscapes thread link as sticky no.1
3. Please rename Infrastructure and Transportation thread as Salem City Transportation Updates (Railway, Bus and Airport)
4. Retail, Entertainment & Hospitality thread can have prefix Salem.

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Can we have separate flyover and bridges thread for these 4 cities?

Also on previous note, instead of grouping the thread in zone wise it can be done on the basis of previous unified district. i.e Namakkal thread can go to Salem forum and Tiruppur thread can go to Coimbatore forum. Erode/Thanjavur threads can stay in TN forum itself.

Arul,

I have added the word Salem in Salem threads.

There is not much support for a small reorg within TN forums.

Let us continue with the present set up and experiment for a month or so. If any good suggestion comes, we will take it up.

What happens when One Rupee = 45 dollars
Taken from web, searched b4 posting. If it is done already sorry for that.

What happens if 1 rupee = 45 dollars !
............ ......... ....
Scene 1

Venue : Microsoft Corporation, New York , US Some s/w
engineers are seeing some photographs.

s/w engg 1 : What's that?

s/w engg 2 : Bob's photographs from India .

s/w engg 1 : Wow. Let me see. Which is this place?

s/w engg 3 : (Sees the photo) This is IT park, madurai

s/w engg 1 : Fundoo yaar! And what is this? He got TVS 50 also.

s/w engg 2 : Let me see (sees). This guy enjoys life maan...

s/w engg 3 : You know how much an TVS 50 costs?
Nearly 28K.....
Say it in dollars... (28000*45 = 12, 60,000 dollars)

s/w engg 2: Oops. We can't dream of such a thing here.

s/w engg 1 : Let's go to India & try for a job.

[Everybody excited.]
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SCENE 2

Venue: Sun Microsystems, SanFrancisco , California, US

s/w engg 1: I'm with you man. My Visa is expected anytime. Soon I will
fly to India

s/w engg 2: Ohhh.... When is the party?

s/w engg 1: When I get it on hand.

s/w engg 2: Where will you be working?

s/w engg 1 : I'll be working in Anaiyur.

s/w engg 2 : Oh! Anaiyur. Great yaar. where it is...

s/w engg 1 : It is in madurai.

s/w engg 3 : Fundoo place yaar. Nice climate Not like California.
You'll love the weather yaar. One of my friends is in chennai...
He says it's the ultimate place to live in. Cool maan.

s/w engg 2 : Who is the client yaar?

s/w engg 1: You know Municipal Corporation of madurai?

s/w engg 3 : One of my friends is there in the Road Cleaning Division. Most challenging job yaar.
People are working in the cutting edge of technology there.

s/w engg 1 : I'll be writing software for the accounts department of the GCU.

s/w engg 2: GCU? what it means...?

s/w engg 1 : that is Garbage Collecting Unit.

s/w engg 3 : Great yaar. That's what I like about that country. You can get a job which requires all your skill.
Not like here. See I'm writing software for the space shuttle remote control. I hate this.

s/w engg 1 : Don't worry guys. I'll give you my
Hotmail id. You can send your resume to me and I'll forward it to the HRD.

[Everybody takes down his Hotmail id.]

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SCENE 3

Venue: Intel Corp. US

s/w engg 1: Great news guys. Our George has got
admission in the IGNOU with scholarship for B.A History. A great new field yaar...
All are excited...

George : Got my Visa yesterday. It's all finalized now.

s/w engg 2 : Congrats yaar. So you are out of this country.

s/w eng g 1 : B.A in Histroy...ohh. ..man, enjoy your life there!!

s/w engg 2 :Got full aid, eh?

George : Yeah. Got the UGC scholarship That will be 1200 Rupees / year.

s/w engg 1 : Great. Enjoy.

s/w engg 2 : (Thinking loud): 1200 Indian Rupees...!
that means 1200 * 45 = 54000 Dollars... with that amount I can buy an
three bed-room flat & a Mercedes here...!!!

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SCENE 4

A foreigner working in madurai as Software Engg gets a call from his Home ..

Father : What are you doing son ?

S/w Eng : Having breakfast ?

Father : what are you eating ?

S/w Eng: Coconut Sauce and Rice Bread i.e.,(Idli and Chutney)


LETS HOPE ONE DAY IT SHOULD BE LIKE THAT. JUST A THOUGHT.

For moderator Attension.

My suggestion for some more modification in TN subforum.

Coimbatore:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Coimbatore Cityscapes, Coimbatore Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Madurai:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Madurai Views, Madurai Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Trichy:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Trichy Cityscapes, Trichy Airport thread link as sticky no.1

Salem:

1. Please make the projects thread as sticky no.2
2. Salem Cityscapes thread link as sticky no.1

Kannanji, Could you please do something on this request...

Most of the TN forummers not knowing about the location of Airport threads and cityscapes..

Sunday special:
oru kozhiyin Kanneer:
"Kaalaiyil kokarakko
endraen...
Madhiyam
cookerukkul
vendhaen..."
Ena valka da idhu,..
GOOD NI8...& SWEET DREAMS..:)

^^
Yes, it will be easy to browse if there are shortcuts(links) to Cityscape,Airport threads in the sub forum for the above cities.

Arul,

I have added the word Salem in Salem threads.

There is not much support for a small reorg within TN forums.

Let us continue with the present set up and experiment for a month or so. If any good suggestion comes, we will take it up.

Kannan sir,

thanks.

But my request was not to move the entire thread.. I will create the thread in each sub forum for airport/cityscapes and provide the link in that thread, pls mark it as sticky and lock it... like the chennai sub forum link in TN forum and TN forum link in Chennai subforum.

We have such threads in Chennai subforum for airport, metro etc.,

Hope this makes my request clear. Even Bajk and KG is asking for the same if i am correct.... because many in our forum don't know there is separate airport and cityscapes thread running!

Can i go with creating that link threads?

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/reliance-groups-big-aims-to-open-8-animation-centres-in-tn/440619/

Big Animation Infotainment and Media School (Big AIMS), a training academy of Big Animation (India) Pvt Ltd under the Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani group, would open 7-8 learning centres in Tamil Nadu, as part of its plan to expand the number of centres from 16 at present to 25 by the end of December 2011.

Big Animation also has plans to introduce two of its animation series including super hero Shaktimaan and its feature film Hey Krishna, in next five to six months, said a senior executive from the company.

Speaking to the media on its tie-up with the Annamalai University, in Tamil Nadu, to offer a degree programme in animation and visual effects (VFX), film-making, Ashish S Kulkarni, chief executive officer, Big Animation, said that the company was planning to expand its learning centres from 16 to 25 by the end of 2011.

It plans to explore tier-2 cities for growth opportunities for training. On an average, it has so far invested around Rs 2.5-3 crore per centre, depending on the region it selects.

At present, it has six centres in New Delhi, one each in Jaipur, Indore, Sholapur, Mumbai, Kolkata and Pune apart from centres in south India. It has plans to open centres in Bangalore, Hyderabad and Nagpur, he added.

The company is in the final stage of developing animation series of Shaktimaan in collaboration with Chennai-based Accel group. It has a pipeline of television series including Big Bees in 3D, and Shaktimaan in 2D. Besides, feature film Hey Krishna, to be rolled out in five to six months.

As part of creating original content and properties, it is developing 16 properties including Big Bee, Mr D and Son of Monkey King. The company is also in talks with Indian and foreign companies for co-production of original content and properties.

Under the memorandum of understanding with the Annamalai University, the company would offer a Bachelor of Arts programme in Animation and VFX which would be under the guidelines of the univesrity.

“We have around 450,000 students in around 545 courses at present. With the tie-up, we would be offering courses using modern technology like animation,” said M Ramanathan, vice chancellor, Annamalai University.

The university would conduct examinations and collect the processing fee and examination fee, while Big AIMS would have the rest of the revenue, he said. The company expects to train around 500 student through the tie-up in the first year of operations.

Kannan sir,

thanks.

But my request was not to move the entire thread.. I will create the thread in each sub forum for airport/cityscapes and provide the link in that thread, pls mark it as sticky and lock it... like the chennai sub forum link in TN forum and TN forum link in Chennai subforum.

We have such threads in Chennai subforum for airport, metro etc.,

Hope this makes my request clear. Even Bajk and KG is asking for the same if i am correct.... because many in our forum don't know there is separate airport and cityscapes thread running!

Can i go with creating that link threads?

Arul,

We have sub forums for Airports, Railways etc in India Forum and the chance of hits are more there and we have viewers from other states also.

Probably we can give a link to that in Chennai and Tamilnadu Sub forums.

We want guys from one state to visit other states forums also (Not to post offending words but to understand what is happening there)

It is better if all the cities come under each category of infra. This will help anyone interested in any infra to go there and look.

Probably, links at Chennai & TN Forum may suffice.

I will discuss with other mods and revert.

Kannan sir,

thanks.

But my request was not to move the entire thread.. I will create the thread in each sub forum for airport/cityscapes and provide the link in that thread, pls mark it as sticky and lock it... like the chennai sub forum link in TN forum and TN forum link in Chennai subforum.

We have such threads in Chennai subforum for airport, metro etc.,

Hope this makes my request clear. Even Bajk and KG is asking for the same if i am correct.... because many in our forum don't know there is separate airport and cityscapes thread running!

Can i go with creating that link threads?

Yes, we just need link to Cityscape views and Airport thread in each sub forum.

Reshuffle in TN Cabinet; Mohammed Jaan appointed minister


Chennai,Jun27 (PTI) Tamil Nadu Governor Surjit Singh Barnala today appointed A Mohammed Jaan as Minister to fill the vacuum created by the death of Mariam Pitchai, Minister for Backward Classes and Minorities Welfare, who died in a road accident last month. He would be sworn-in on June 29 here,a Raj Bhavan communique said. The Governor had also effected changes in the portfolios of some of the Ministers on the advice of Chief Minister Jayalalithaa. Industries Minister C Shanmugavelu has been shifted as Rural Industries Minister, replacing M C Sampath. The new Industries Minister is SP velumani, whose portfolio- Special Programme Implementation- had been given to MC Sampath. Animal Husbandry Minister C Karuppasamy and Sports and Youth Welfare Minister NR Sivapathy have swapped portfolios. TKM Chinnaiah, who was given additional charge of Backward Classes and Minority Welfare, retained the Environment and Pollution Control portfolios.

^^
Industries Minister replaced in 40 days. He wouldn't have even familiarised with the working of a very important Ministry in this period. How about Mr Velumani.. very smart..?Someone need to stay long to build relationship with Industry Bodies.

^^
Industries Minister repalced in 40 days. He wouldn't have even familiarised with the working of a very important Ministry in this period. How about Mr Velumani.. very smart..?Someone need to stay long to build relationship with Industry Bodies.

Jaya gives national interview to TimesNow and one of the question which I paraphrase was with DMK so maligned because of corruption issue that they lost the assembly elections and still the Congress decided to stick with them and not take your offer on support, to which Jaya had no coherent answer.
I am not sure it was apparent to her that people would prefer to do deal with predictable people than finnicky ones with mercurial temperament.

செல்வ வரி கணக்கு:ஜெயலலிதா விடுவிப்பு

சென்னை : செல்வ வரி கணக்கை குறித்த காலத்தில் தாக்கல் செய்யத் தவறியதாக தொடரப்பட்ட வழக்கில் இருந்து, முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதாவை விடுவித்து சென்னை ஐகோர்ட் உத்தரவிட்டுள்ளது.தமிழக முதல்வராக 1991-96ம் ஆண்டு ஜெயலலிதா பதவி வகித்தார். 93-94ம் ஆண்டுக்கான செல்வ வரி கணக்கை குறித்த காலத்தில் தாக்கல் செய்யத் தவறியதாக, ஜெயலலிதா மீது எழும்பூர் பொருளாதார கோர்ட்டில் வருமான வரித் துறை, 97ம் ஆண்டு வழக்கு தொடுத்தது. இவ்வழக்கில் குற்றப்பத்திரிகையும் தாக்கல் செய்யப்பட்டது.வழக்கில் இருந்து விடுவிக்கக் கோரி, எழும்பூர் கோர்ட்டில் ஜெயலலிதா மனுத் தாக்கல் செய்தார். இம்மனு தள்ளுபடி செய்யப்பட்டது. இதை எதிர்த்து சென்னை ஐகோர்ட்டில் ஜெயலலிதா மனுத் தாக்கல் செய்தார்.ஜெயலலிதா சார்பில் வக்கீல் நவநீதகிருஷ்ணன், "வழக்கு தாக்கல் செய்ய அனுமதியளித்த அதிகாரியிடம், போதிய ஆதாரங்களை தாக்கல் செய்யவில்லை. மனதை செலுத்தாமல், வழக்கு தொடர அதிகாரி அனுமதியளித்துள்ளார். மேலும், வேண்டுமென்றே கணக்கு தாக்கல் செய்யாமல் இல்லை. வரியை செலுத்தி விட்டார். எனவே, வழக்கில் இருந்து விடுவிக்க வேண்டும்' என்றார்.மனுவை நீதிபதி சிவகுமார் விசாரித்தார். செல்வ வரி கணக்கை குறித்த காலத்தில் தாக்கல் செய்யத் தவறியதாக தொடரப்பட்ட வழக்கில் இருந்து விடுவித்து நீதிபதி சிவகுமார் உத்தரவிட்டார்.

Respected Moderators,

I used to have a favorite bookmark on the TN forum using the link

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1268

Now if I use the same bookmark all I could see on my screen are the 4 cities subforum and with 1 page down I see the sticky threads which mean little to me and the next page down will take me to the last updated threads... so in effect 1 click of my favorite is turned to 3 clicks which is annoying atleast to me.

I have a suggestion - in addition to the 4 subforums for the top 4 cities, can we add 2-3 subforums.
1. Other TN cities - This will contain all the other cities / towns individual forums like Tirunelveli, Erode, Tiruppur, Tuticorin etc
2. Infrastructure subforum - This will contain Projects, Road, Railways, Ports, Mega Power plants, Renewable Energy etc..
3. Discussion Forums - This will contain Arattai Arrangam, Photos of Historic Places, etc...

This way I can bookmark the Other TN Cities Forum to have a faster view to my hometown updates...

Please give this suggestion a thought.

Thanks & Best Regards!!!!

I am not sure if you are aware of Seinfeld's famous 'The Soup Nazi' episode. If so, you will hear the word 'Mulligatawny' many times.

I stumbled upon wiki to find that 'Mulligatawny' is translated literally from Tamil "pepper water"[2] ("Millagu" மிளகு means pepper and "Thanni" தண்ணீர் means water). :cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulligatawny

^^ Looks like its easy to make Tamil words sound 'cool' in English. :cheers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Indian_origin

Looks like most of these are from Hindi, Sanskrit and Tamil as compared to other Indian languages. :cheers:

Jaya gives national interview to TimesNow and one of the question which I paraphrase was with DMK so maligned because of corruption issue that they lost the assembly elections and still the Congress decided to stick with them and not take your offer on support, to which Jaya had no coherent answer.
I am not sure it was apparent to her that people would prefer to do deal with predictable people than finnicky ones with mercurial temperament.

i actually loved her interview she spoke with maturity and clearly showcased she is equi distant with all party and can go anywhere depending upon the events

Respected Moderators,

I used to have a favorite bookmark on the TN forum using the link

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1268

Now if I use the same bookmark all I could see on my screen are the 4 cities subforum and with 1 page down I see the sticky threads which mean little to me and the next page down will take me to the last updated threads... so in effect 1 click of my favorite is turned to 3 clicks which is annoying atleast to me.


Please give this suggestion a thought.

Thanks & Best Regards!!!!

+1, now too much of sticky threads in main forum of TN has pushed the active threads down. If Blackpearl suggestion cannot be implemented following two things can be done.

1. Make only ONE sticky thread in tn sub forum which can give link to all the pics thread link of tirunelveli, pondy french connection, then pic etc.,

2. The ad between cities folder and tn folder should be removed, which will give a continuity link.

As usual mods decision is final.

The Hindu (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2139905.ece)


The Madras High Court on Monday discharged Chief Minister Jayalalithaa from a wealth tax case against her.

The complaint against her was that she did not file the wealth tax returns for the 1993-94 assessment year within the due date. The case was pending before a magistrate court at Egmore. Ms. Jayalalithaa filed a petition seeking discharge from the case; but the court dismissed the application. She filed a revision before the High Court, through counsel A. Navaneethakrishnan. In his order, Justice P.R. Shivakumar set aside the lower court's order.

+1, now too much of sticky threads in main forum of TN has pushed the active threads down. If Blackpearl suggestion cannot be implemented following two things can be done.

1. Make only ONE sticky thread in tn sub forum which can give link to all the pics thread link of tirunelveli, pondy french connection, then pic etc.,

2. The ad between cities folder and tn folder should be removed, which will give a continuity link.

As usual mods decision is final.

Many thanks for the support!

Cheers!!!

Thats why I preferred to wait for a month or so.

Let us have all the feed back and do the changes in one go.

The emphasis should be on other state forumers also to see & comment on TN infra forums.

It is better if all general infra like Airport, Railway, NH Roads, Major Bridges, Ports etc are in All India Sub Forums with a link in TN sub forum.

How to place them - we will decide after running this for a month.

kannan

ஹிந்தி படிக்காததால் மதிப்பை இழந்தோம்: சாலமன் பாப்பையா
Dinamani,28 Jun 2011

மதுரை, ஜூன் 28: தமிழர்கள் ஹிந்தி படிக்காத காரணத்தால், வட மாநிலங்களில் மதிப்பை இழக்கும் நிலை ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது என, பேராசிரியர் சாலமன்பாப்பையா தெரிவித்தார்.


மதுரையில் ஞாயிற்றுக்கிழமை நடைபெற்ற டாக்டர் கு. கண்ணன் எழுதி தொகுத்த திருக்குறள் (தமிழ், ஆங்கிலம், ஹிந்தி உரைகள் தொகுப்பு) நூல் வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் பங்கேற்று, அவர் வழங்கிய வாழ்த்துரை:


தமிழகத்திலிருந்து வெளிநாட்டவர் மிளகு, முத்து ஆகிய பொருள்களையே தங்கள் நாட்டுக்கு எடுத்துச் சென்று வந்துள்ளனர். அவற்றையே, தமிழகத்தில் கிடைக்கும் அரிய சொத்தாகவும் அவர்கள் கருதி வந்தனர்.


ஆனால், தமிழகத்துக்கு வந்த வீரமாமுனிவர் மட்டுமே, திருக்குறளை லத்தீன் மொழிக்கு எடுத்துச் சென்றார்.


அதன்பிறகே, தமிழகத்தில் அரிய சொத்தாக திருக்குறள் போன்ற நூல்கள் இருப்பதை, வெளிநாட்டறிஞர்கள் தெரிந்து கொண்டுள்ளனர்.


அதன்பிறகுதான், பிரெஞ்சு உள்ளிட்ட வெளிநாட்டு மொழிகளில் திருக்குறள் மொழி பெயர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆங்கிலத்தில் 35-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட பதிப்புகளில் திருக்குறள் மொழி பெயர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.


தமிழை ஹிந்தி அழித்துவிடும் என நடந்த பிரசாரத்தால், தமிழகத்தில் ஹிந்தி கற்பது தடைபட்டது.


ஹிந்தி தமிழை அழித்துவிடும் எனக் கூறியே, ஹிந்தி எதிர்ப்பு பிரசாரம் நடந்தது. ஆனால், தற்போது ஆங்கிலம்தான் தமிழை அழித்து வருகிறது.


ஹிந்தியை, நமது தமிழர்கள் கடந்த 30 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பு கற்றிருந்தார்கள் என்றால், இப்போது வடஇந்திய அரசியலில் மதிப்பு மிக்கவர்களாக தமிழர்கள் விளங்கியிருக்க முடியும். ஹிந்தியை கற்காமல்போனது இழப்புத்தான்.


தற்போது திருக்குறள் உரை நூலில் தமிழ், ஆங்கிலம் ஆகியவற்றுடன் ஹிந்தி உரையைப் புகுத்தி இருப்பது சிறப்பாகும் என்றார்.
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Enough damage is already done, TN people have already realised this. Atleast the present Govt should introduce Hindi in Govt schools so that atleast basic level proficiency is attained by the students in Hindi.

i was to post this in education thread and cc one of our forumers. but since topic related here posting it

A few months ago, the then M. Karunanidhi government set the Centre a condition for opening Navodaya Vidyalayas in Tamil Nadu.

It was ready to provide land for these schools, the DMK government said, but only if they began teaching in English and Tamil and not in Hindi.

The Union human resource development ministry did not agree and dropped the proposal. Navodaya Vidyalayas continue to exist in all the states and Union territories except Tamil Nadu.

Yet the current trend of Tamil Nadu students increasingly choosing to learn Hindi, with some even opting for Hindi as the medium of instruction, appears to make nonsense of the erstwhile DMK government’s stand. (See chart)

More than four decades after the DMK rode an anti-Hindi agitation to power in Tamil Nadu, it seems the state’s people are increasingly jettisoning their perceived hostility towards India’s dominant language.

With Hindi not even taught as a subject in Tamil Nadu’s government schools, many people from the state are studying the language through courses offered by the Central Hindi Directorate (CHD) and the Dakshin Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha.

Even more surprisingly, many are opting to study university-level humanities courses offered by the Prachar Sabha — BA, MA, MPhil and PhD in political science or history as well as BEd — with Hindi as the medium of instruction.

While the CHD offers only correspondence courses on the Hindi language, the Prachar Sabha has a network of centres covering even small towns and villages in all the southern states and Puducherry. It has also engaged scores of voluntary organisations and thousands of volunteers to spread the teaching of Hindi in these states. The CHD provides the funds to the Prachar Sabha.

CHD director K. Vijaykumar confirmed the trend. “Of the Prachar Sabha’s 18 lakh students country-wide, nearly 10 lakh are from Tamil Nadu alone,” he said.

B.P. Sanjay, the vice-chancellor of the Central University of Tamil Nadu, suggested that one reason could be the increasing trend of people having to work outside their home states. “In the public domain, there is no visible sign of anti-Hindi dynamics. This may be because people have recognised the benefits of learning the language,” he said.

“They learn it to add value to their qualifications, keeping in mind the question of mobility in service and job opportunities in other states.”

Yet the Karunanidhi government’s stand had a historical basis. In 1965, the DMK had led a fiery students’ agitation against the “imposition” of Hindi as a compulsory school subject.

The students feared that from January 26, 1965 — that is, 15 years after the birth of the republic — Hindi would become the lone official language of India under the Constitution, with English losing its status as the associate official language.

Jawaharlal Nehru (who died in 1964) had got Parliament to pass the Official Language Act 1963 to allow the use of English beyond the cut-off date, but the DMK feared that future governments would not honour the commitment.

The DMK, which had 50 members in the Tamil Nadu Assembly, spearheaded the students’ agitation that began in Madurai on January 25, 1965, and spread through the state. Many students set themselves on fire.

The embattled Congress government of P. Bhaktvatsalam brought in the paramilitary, resulting in more bloodshed and nearly 100 deaths. The riots ebbed only after then Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri promised that English would continue as an official language as long as non-Hindi-speaking states wanted it to.

The agitation, though, took its toll on the Congress. The DMK swept to power in the 1967 Assembly elections, becoming the first regional party to rule an Indian state. Nearly half a century on, the Congress remains a relatively minor player in Tamil Nadu.

Subsequently, Indira Gandhi amended the Official Language Act to ensure that both Hindi and English continued as official languages indefinitely.

Even now the DMK keeps demanding that all the languages listed in the Constitution’s Eighth Schedule be declared official languages. But this has become more of an empty slogan.

The anti-Hindi feelings have been blunted by the arrival of satellite TV channels that have made linguistic boundaries irrelevant. Another factor has been the DMK and the AIADMK becoming partners in central governments after 1998.

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ஹிந்தி படிக்காததால் மதிப்பை இழந்தோம்: சாலமன் பாப்பையா
Dinamani,28 Jun 2011

மதுரை, ஜூன் 28: தமிழர்கள் ஹிந்தி படிக்காத காரணத்தால், வட மாநிலங்களில் மதிப்பை இழக்கும் நிலை ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது என, பேராசிரியர் சாலமன்பாப்பையா தெரிவித்தார்.


மதுரையில் ஞாயிற்றுக்கிழமை நடைபெற்ற டாக்டர் கு. கண்ணன் எழுதி தொகுத்த திருக்குறள் (தமிழ், ஆங்கிலம், ஹிந்தி உரைகள் தொகுப்பு) நூல் வெளியீட்டு விழாவில் பங்கேற்று, அவர் வழங்கிய வாழ்த்துரை:


தமிழகத்திலிருந்து வெளிநாட்டவர் மிளகு, முத்து ஆகிய பொருள்களையே தங்கள் நாட்டுக்கு எடுத்துச் சென்று வந்துள்ளனர். அவற்றையே, தமிழகத்தில் கிடைக்கும் அரிய சொத்தாகவும் அவர்கள் கருதி வந்தனர்.


ஆனால், தமிழகத்துக்கு வந்த வீரமாமுனிவர் மட்டுமே, திருக்குறளை லத்தீன் மொழிக்கு எடுத்துச் சென்றார்.


அதன்பிறகே, தமிழகத்தில் அரிய சொத்தாக திருக்குறள் போன்ற நூல்கள் இருப்பதை, வெளிநாட்டறிஞர்கள் தெரிந்து கொண்டுள்ளனர்.


அதன்பிறகுதான், பிரெஞ்சு உள்ளிட்ட வெளிநாட்டு மொழிகளில் திருக்குறள் மொழி பெயர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆங்கிலத்தில் 35-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட பதிப்புகளில் திருக்குறள் மொழி பெயர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.


தமிழை ஹிந்தி அழித்துவிடும் என நடந்த பிரசாரத்தால், தமிழகத்தில் ஹிந்தி கற்பது தடைபட்டது.


ஹிந்தி தமிழை அழித்துவிடும் எனக் கூறியே, ஹிந்தி எதிர்ப்பு பிரசாரம் நடந்தது. ஆனால், தற்போது ஆங்கிலம்தான் தமிழை அழித்து வருகிறது.


ஹிந்தியை, நமது தமிழர்கள் கடந்த 30 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பு கற்றிருந்தார்கள் என்றால், இப்போது வடஇந்திய அரசியலில் மதிப்பு மிக்கவர்களாக தமிழர்கள் விளங்கியிருக்க முடியும். ஹிந்தியை கற்காமல்போனது இழப்புத்தான்.


தற்போது திருக்குறள் உரை நூலில் தமிழ், ஆங்கிலம் ஆகியவற்றுடன் ஹிந்தி உரையைப் புகுத்தி இருப்பது சிறப்பாகும் என்றார்.
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Enough damage is already done, TN people have already realised this. Atleast the present Govt should introduce Hindi in Govt schools so that atleast basic level proficiency is attained by the students in Hindi.

I started my schooling post the famous Hindi Agitation and Hindi was banned from all Govt & Govt aided schools in TN. Even private tution was banned indirectly by threatening the Hindi teachers.

I manage my life somehow since I joined REC / NIT Trichy where 50% of students were from other states. I worked in Delhi & Orissa and I had to learn Hindi through a very hard way. Even now, I am not comfortable since I do not have the basics. Thanks to Amithab's movies, I can talk Mumbaiya Hindi.

If TN students have to excel at a higher level, they should be allowed to learn Hindi freely. I am against any enforcement by Govt. But one should be free to learn what ever language he / she wants to learn.

Of late, most of the business meetings are in Hinglish and sometimes I miss some finer points which are told in Hindi. Even Korean guys in Chennai are able to understand Hindi as most of the site workers speak Hindi. Of late, I generally recruit our site engineers only if they know Hindi / Telugu as most of the workers talk that.

Except KVs, I dont see many South Indian run CBSE schools supporting Hindi in a big way except what is in syllabus. Conversation is much less in Hindi.

I also help all our North Indian or other states employees to learn Tamil so that interaction is smooth.

It was ready to provide land for these schools, the DMK government said, but only if they began teaching in English and Tamil and not in Hindi.

The Union human resource development ministry did not agree and dropped the proposal. Navodaya Vidyalayas continue to exist in all the states and Union territories except Tamil Nadu.

Thats a very valid demand to teach in English than Hindi. Its shame that CG is so controlled by the UP Bhaiyyas.
If DMK is language chauvinists, then so are they for denying schools to TN just because of hindi and I wish thatha had taken the centre to task like the way he created drama for his daughters arrest.

i actually loved her interview she spoke with maturity and clearly showcased she is equi distant with all party and can go anywhere depending upon the events
Because she was neither with Cong or BJP and can go along with any party, in the last Lok sabha election she lost so many seats..
If she repeats her mistake, again she will not be in power in CG.

VS,

Thats pure bunkum. you didnt get the purport of article. What that muka wants is different. navodya schools operate as per three language formula.

It was pvnr idea and apt that today is his birthday.

This means three languages have to be learned, english, hindi and tamil is in tn. What the bugger muka doesnt want is hindi to be taught to all kids who are students of that school.

Just check what all benefits students get. TN is missing a lot by not allowing it,


One of our forumers studied there and he will be in a better position to eleaborate more.

What kannan says is true. my moms family friend was a hindi pandit. she was a tamilian not from north india. so mom used to speak hindi well and even did her hindi exams under her tutelage. in schools she used to stand first in tamil. When that tamil teacher came to know abt it, she failed her in continous exams and when questioned threatened her saying as long as you learn hindi, i will do it.

Then my sibling studied till 8th with tamil as 2nd language. also wrote the hindi exams privately.
But tamil teacher when she came to know once again started harassing. net result shifted second language to hindi from 9th.

This was one reason why they put me with hindi as second language.

I learned tamil at home and third language as tamil, which was enough for me to write and read tamil very well.
ofcourse i dont read tamil newspaper for paucity of time and quality, and read only if you guys post it here.

Most of these teachers are responsible for alienation towards tamil.

This bugger muka will let his entire family learn hindi but not the ones who may need hindi to make their mobility outside easy.

Its not hindi which is doing damage to tamil but english. because u wont mix hindi with tamil even if u know while speaking in tamil.

in Vijay tv there was a program. asked to tell tamil word for waterfalls ended up saying neervilchi an exact conversion. aruvi was there.

Its here where people like jayalalitha,gopinath and all need to be appreciated. They stick to tamil only if its tamil conv, english only when english, no mixing.

Similarly in north arun jaitley is an example. His speeches in hindi as good as he gives in english.

Just leave it to children and parents to decide what language they want to learn and how to learn that- thru school or privately.

krishnaswamy,

That interview had enough hints that she will support bjp in 2014 even if its narendra modi at helm. Her answers on many issues were rightist in nature as well. The sentence like country wants a change, a no nonsense govt,upright and one that deals hardly on national security and foregn policy with neighbhours.

This was enough a hint.

But for any party to align now with bjp given that there is vote loss among minorities an they vote as one block, they must be sure bjp will capture power.

BJP needs to put its house in order. at the moment its big mess. from now on all elections to lead up to 2014 has to be won by bjp. its their core areas.

In only punjab they can afford to loose decently. But look at their situation. When they need min 125 seats from up in 2012, their current situation is pitiful. will end up fourth.

Uttrakhand as it looks they r all set to loose. Himachal cant be gauged now, then comes karnataka,goa,mp,chhatisgarh,madya pradesh, rajasthan,delhi. barring gujarat none is a surity. They have to not only win but win handsomely. which will ensure they corner most seats in LS from there

Look at their state in maha, can they even win a pittance of 48 seats after the 15 yrs nonsense by cong? no. MNS shiv sena merger needed for that.

Only if BJP shows they are good to bet on, will jaya align. and if anger against con remains in tn she will stay alone in 2014 too and will take a call post elections.

VS,

Thats pure bunkum. you didnt get the purport of article. What that muka wants is different. navodya schools operate as per three language formula.

This means three languages have to be learned, english, hindi and tamil is in tn. What the bugger muka doesnt want is hindi to be taught to all kids who are students of that school

Kumar, Why does that third language have to be Hindi? Why doesn't the central government allow any other language to be learnt along with Tamil? Say Kannada, Telugu or Malayalam for majority of South students or Gujarati, Assamese, Bengali for North students. Hindi should be an option along with these languages. The logistics may not be in favor but that is for the parents to decide.

I agree it is good to learn other regional languages, just don't like that Hindi requirement. It is bull if you say that the colleagues talk in Hinglish so I need to learn it. It is imperative upon them to make sure they talk in a language both of us can understand. As for as I am concerned it is their failure to communicate. I am not afraid to bring it up in meetings, although a little more diplomatically.

Cheers to TASMAC (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Govt-owned-company-makes-a-killing-with-liquor-sale-in-Tamil-Nadu/articleshow/9020352.cms) :cheers:

Kumar, Why does that third language have to be Hindi? Why doesn't the central government allow any other language to be learnt along with Tamil? Say Kannada, Telugu or Malayalam for majority of South students or Gujarati, Assamese, Bengali for North students. Hindi should be an option along with these languages. The logistics may not be in favor but that is for the parents to decide.

Mr.Spiderman,

Hindi is spoken by 40% of the populace in India and it makes sense that Hindi can be a common media of communication for a diverse country like India with so many languages prevalent. Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

English does not have much penetration in the northern hinterlands and as Hindi speaking populace is the majority, it was chosen to be a common mode for communication. Hindi was adopted by all southern states except TN, do you think they have lost love for their native language....check out. They are more pationate than Tamils about their language.

TN government cancelled VAT on LPG resulting in revenue loss of 120 crore

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2142205.ece)

This cost will be borne by infrastructure spending cuts on non-metros of-course :lol: Instead I wish she cuts back on oc items

Mr.Spiderman,

Hindi is spoken by 40% of the populace in India and it makes sense that Hindi can be a common media of communication for a diverse country like India with so many languages prevalent. Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

English does not have much penetration in the northern hinterlands and as Hindi speaking populace is the majority, it was chosen to be a common mode for communication. Hindi was adopted by all southern states except TN, do you think they have lost love for their native language....check out. They are more pationate than Tamils about their language.

Hindi adopted by southern states? May be you are talking about Metro cities like Bengaluru and Hyderabad that does not mean entire pop of AP or KA or KL knows Hindi!

I used my Hindi in Kerala and hinterlands of AP and southern KA, opps they cannot answer or understand Hindi, but instead when i used tamil mixed with malayalam and tamil mixed with telugu, they can understand easily!

It is just another maya created that entire south adopted, understand, speaks Hindi and only TN does speak Hindi.. travel to hinterland of Gujarat, they cannot even understand Hindi, only Gujarati they speak! There are many such hinterland to length and breadth of the country.

And for this subbu,

Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

Why you questioned Kannada alone? I live in TN itself, what is the need of 3rd language for me?? what Hindi can also do wonders for me living in TN?

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With above debate, don't imagine i am with an attitude of anti-Hindi!

There are estimated 7lakhs tamils in National Capital teritory and another 5-6lakhs tamils in Mumbai, in which school these tamils learnt Hindi?

Leaving native tamils aside in Bengaluru, did Hindi helped the 1970-95's migrants or Kannada?

Or in which school the lakhs of gujaratis and marwaris in Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai, Erode, Salem learnt Tamil for doing business here?

When the need arise, they learnt the respective language, 3rd language policy does not going to have any effect on our day to day life! it is just another P.T or dance or craft class and those states having 3rd language leave that in school itself.

And i don't see any advantage of learning 3rd language when there is "NO USE"!! for the sake of few migrants, frequent traveling business people (may be less than 5-6% of one state population) there is no need for rest 95-96% to break their head for 3rd language (seeing it as compulsory and treating on par with 1st or 2nd language)

You cannot see, India like China here... pls compare it with Europe! None of the european countries might be serious with 3rd language, this does not stop their development or communication.

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Let the central gvt first treat all regional language like the another regional language Hindi in its office! The let them speak about 3rd language, national integrity, patritoism, security, indianness etc.,

Last month when i was in coimbatore passport office, in counters i could see info boards in Hindi and English.. but not in Tamil! This is how 99% of central gvt office will treat the regional language when they are non-hindi speaking state!

Even after 1965 riots, this is how CG treats regional language!!

Hindi adopted by southern states? May be you are talking about Metro cities like Bengaluru and Hyderabad that does not mean entire pop of AP or KA or KL knows Hindi!

I used my Hindi in Kerala and hinterlands of AP and southern KA, opps they cannot answer or understand Hindi, but instead when i used tamil mixed with malayalam and tamil mixed with telugu, they can understand easily!

It is just another maya created that entire south adopted, understand, speaks Hindi and only TN does speak Hindi.. travel to hinterland of Gujarat, they cannot even understand Hindi, only Gujarati they speak! There are many such hinterland to length and breadth of the country.

And for this subbu,

Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

Why you questioned Kannada alone? I live in TN itself, what is the need of 3rd language for me?? what Hindi can also do wonders for me living in TN?

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With above debate, don't imagine i am with an attitude of anti-Hindi!

There are estimated 7lakhs tamils in National Capital teritory and another 5-6lakhs tamils in Mumbai, in which school these tamils learnt Hindi?

Leaving native tamils aside in Bengaluru, did Hindi helped the 1970-95's migrants or Kannada?

Or in which school the lakhs of gujaratis and marwaris in Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai, Erode, Salem learnt Tamil for doing business here?

When the need arise, they learnt the respective language, 3rd language policy does not going to have any effect on our day to day life! it is just another P.T or dance or craft class and those states having 3rd language leave that in school itself.

And i don't see any advantage of learning 3rd language when there is "NO USE"!! for the sake of few migrants, frequent traveling business people (may be less than 5-6% of one state population) there is no need for rest 95-96% to break their head for 3rd language (seeing it as compulsory and treating on par with 1st or 2nd language)

You cannot see, India like China here... pls compare it with Europe! None of the european countries might be serious with 3rd language, this does not stop their development or communication.

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Let the central gvt first treat all regional language like the another regional language Hindi in its office! The let them speak about 3rd language, national integrity, patritoism, security, indianness etc.,

Last month when i was in coimbatore passport office, in counters i could see info boards in Hindi and English.. but not in Tamil! This is how 99% of central gvt office will treat the regional language when they are non-hindi speaking state!

Even after 1965 riots, this is how CG treats regional language!!

+1

krishnaswamy,

That interview had enough hints that she will support bjp in 2014 even if its narendra modi at helm. Her answers on many issues were rightist in nature as well. The sentence like country wants a change, a no nonsense govt,upright and one that deals hardly on national security and foregn policy with neighbhours.

This was enough a hint.

But for any party to align now with bjp given that there is vote loss among minorities an they vote as one block, they must be sure bjp will capture power.

BJP needs to put its house in order. at the moment its big mess. from now on all elections to lead up to 2014 has to be won by bjp. its their core areas.

In only punjab they can afford to loose decently. But look at their situation. When they need min 125 seats from up in 2012, their current situation is pitiful. will end up fourth.

Uttrakhand as it looks they r all set to loose. Himachal cant be gauged now, then comes karnataka,goa,mp,chhatisgarh,madya pradesh, rajasthan,delhi. barring gujarat none is a surity. They have to not only win but win handsomely. which will ensure they corner most seats in LS from there

Look at their state in maha, can they even win a pittance of 48 seats after the 15 yrs nonsense by cong? no. MNS shiv sena merger needed for that.

Only if BJP shows they are good to bet on, will jaya align. and if anger against con remains in tn she will stay alone in 2014 too and will take a call post elections.

Agree with most of your points. I made a post about this a while back also. I think the only true leader in the BJP who can take on Rahul Gandhi is Modi. If RG is not the PM candidate, then Jaitely should be OK.

But I think in the future assembly elections, I expect BJP to do well in Guj, Rajasthan, MP, & Chhatissgarh. They are on a weak wicket in Punjab & K'tka.

To compensate, they need strong allies in states where they don't have a strong organisation yet. These are Orissa, AP, and TN. BJP somehow needs to reach out to minorities (I don't expect this to yield strong results) but this gesture will get alliance offers from Jayalalithaa & CBN at least. Next, they need to convince the Thackerays to come under one platform in Maha. If Jaya & Vijaykanth can come together , I don't see why it is not possible. :)

In TN, I think the fact that Jaya won't align with Congress (at least for now) and in my opinion the DMK will get fewer seats in the next Lok Sabha elections should reduce the prospects of Congress coming to power in 2014 or sooner.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/hotel-radha-to-setfour-luxury-resorts/440792/

Chennai-based Hotel Radha Pvt Ltd, which owns Chariot Beach Resort at Mahabalipuram near Chennai, is planning to set up four high-end luxury resorts in various tourist destinations in Tamil Nadu with an investment of around Rs 65 crore.

It has identified land in Pondicherry and is finalising location close to Madurai, Coimbatore and Thanjavur for setting up resorts with 35-40 rooms each. The resort in Pondicherry would be ready for operation in a year's time while the rest of the three resorts are expected to come up in next two years, said R Ravi, director, Chariot Beach Resort.

With the setting up of new resorts, the company is planning to bring up Chariot as a brand of leisure group of hotels catering to tourists and corporate houses. Investment for the future projects would be generated internally, he added.

The company expects 50 per cent growth in operations by next year, with setting up of the Pondicherry project and plans are to augment the growth to 130 per cent in 2012-13. Its first resort in Mahabalipuram has a turnover of Rs 18 crore, at present.

It has announced the launch of an activity centre, an additional facility in the existing beach resort in Mahabalipuram, to attract corporate clients. With an investment of Rs 2.5 crore, excluding the land cost, the new centre would promote outdoor activities like kabaddi, kho-kho, baseball, basket ball, cricket, tennis along with several indoor activities.

The new addition is with a focus on the corporate clients, who could use the facility for enhancing human resource output through team building, said Ravi. The company expects 40 per cent more business from this segment in first year of operation.

Mr.Spiderman,

Hindi is spoken by 40% of the populace in India and it makes sense that Hindi can be a common media of communication for a diverse country like India with so many languages prevalent. Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

English does not have much penetration in the northern hinterlands and as Hindi speaking populace is the majority, it was chosen to be a common mode for communication. Hindi was adopted by all southern states except TN, do you think they have lost love for their native language....check out. They are more pationate than Tamils about their language.

Let me be clear. I am not against Hindi being taught in TN schools. I'm against making it mandatory to learn. That gives it a national status when in fact it is just another regional language. We already have a common language - English. I'm guessing it is known to more than 75% of Indians. Studying anything else including Tamil is for recreation . For the majority it is not going to help get a job, outside ones state based solely on that qualification. So treat every language equally and don't force the people out of choices.

EDIT: I just read Arul's post. Well put and my thoughts exactly.

Hindi adopted by southern states? May be you are talking about Metro cities like Bengaluru and Hyderabad that does not mean entire pop of AP or KA or KL knows Hindi!

I used my Hindi in Kerala and hinterlands of AP and southern KA, opps they cannot answer or understand Hindi, but instead when i used tamil mixed with malayalam and tamil mixed with telugu, they can understand easily!

It is just another maya created that entire south adopted, understand, speaks Hindi and only TN does speak Hindi.. travel to hinterland of Gujarat, they cannot even understand Hindi, only Gujarati they speak! There are many such hinterland to length and breadth of the country.

If you speak to a person in the hinterland who has not even completed his primary education, defenitely he cannot understand hindi and i am not sure you spoke in Hindi to them or Tam-hindi which many Tamils who have learned it half baked do.



Why you questioned Kannada alone? I live in TN itself, what is the need of 3rd language for me?? what Hindi can also do wonders for me living in TN?


From your argument, i can clearly conclude that you have not spent considerable period in any of the states after KA - AP belt.

You might live in TN itself and fortunate enough to land a lucrative job in Chennai, but in the current globalized world, people are forced to travel to the IT hubs of Gurgaon/Noida/Pune/Mumbai or Mfg hubs of Indore/Manesar/Rajkot/Faridabad/Pune/Jamshedpur etc for seeking employment opportunities in huge numbers which was not the case before 90's. Only people who have secured govt or Defense jobs used to migrate that too in small numbers to northern states till 90's.

So when a youth lands in said areas from TN, he finds himself severly handicapped as feels like landing in a alien country and with great difficulty learns Hindi and for that he has to struggle for 6+ months. Ask any of your friends who have migrated to above KA-AP states and the initial harship they faced due to lack of knowledge of Hindi. So, you will again ask, why only HINDI, i reiterate, its being spoken by 40% of Indian population and it can serve as a right means of communication between the diverse Indian population as penetration of English is not to that great extent except metros and big cities.


Now we will take the migrant Tamils to see where all they went, i am sure 90% of them went to big cities and towns (above AP - KA) where Hindi knowledge is a must. So do you want to argue that just becoz 10% landed in areas where Hindi is not prevalent, its not required. We as a country require one common language to communicate across the nation seamlessly.

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With above debate, don't imagine i am with an attitude of anti-Hindi!

You made my imagination very easy, you are one of them.




There are estimated 7lakhs tamils in National Capital teritory and another 5-6lakhs tamils in Mumbai, in which school these tamils learnt Hindi?

I was one of the 7 lac people you quoted for a good number of years i know how people suffer when they initially land in NCR or any region, obviously for survival they learn the language fast, do you want them to suffer.....





Leaving native tamils aside in Bengaluru, did Hindi helped the 1970-95's migrants or Kannada?

Have you ever interacted with Kearlites or Kannadigas ...i doubt. Even many of the auto fellows in Kerala can understand basic Hindi and i am not talking about Auto wallas of TVM or Cochin here but of even TierII towns.




Or in which school the lakhs of gujaratis and marwaris in Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai, Erode, Salem learnt Tamil for doing business here?


I dont see in what context you are arguing about northins learning south languages when they are here....:nuts:



And i don't see any advantage of learning 3rd language when there is "NO USE"!! for the sake of few migrants, frequent traveling business people (may be less than 5-6% of one state population) there is no need for rest 95-96% to break their head for 3rd language (seeing it as compulsory and treating on par with 1st or 2nd language)


Boy, its a globalized world and people have to move every nook and corner of the city, Chennai cannot give jobs all people of TN. People are learning Spanish and Japanese to get jobs and you are saying why should i learn Hindi as if you are being asked to learn Sinhalese (assuming you will never land in SL for sure)




You cannot see, India like China here... pls compare it with Europe! None of the european countries might be serious with 3rd language, this does not stop their development or communication.



This what CEO of Ford India told after he spent some time in India, "Indian is not a single country, its like Europe, i.e its like so many european countries put together, so diverse it is", you need a common language for people to communicate seamlessly. If you feel that common language should not be HINDI, then shall we have ENGLISH....:bash:



Finally this will be the bottom line of my argument

We need one common language to communicate seamlessly across the nation. Numbers prove that Hindi is most spoken language in India, then we have no other choice than learning it as it will helps easy communication. We have to accept this fact.
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Note: You will answer for sure to each and every argument of mine. Dont expect me to reply as i am done with mine.

Subbu,

Arul travels all over india, has spent lots of time in north india and its hinterland.

So Dont assume.

Its another matter that on this topic my views are quite divergent from arul's barring few point where CG organisations acts in insensitive manner.

In foreign countries if even 5% population speak a language u will have info board in that language as well.

Navodya schools in northern states have to learn one of the four southern languages.

may be navodya should give option of four northenr languages like marathi,gujarathi,punjabi, hindi.

I am sure that given few will opt other languages in that list and will zero in on hindi.

when other southern states including pondy(karaikal has this school) have no problem in using it and benefitting whats problem of TN?


Thats the crux of my argument.

Also i find it easier to pick up other languages when i know tamil and sanskrit.
These two form most words of the other 3 south indian languages. so i can easily understand and thats how i picked. Gujju can be easily picked up once u know any of this. So if i have to pick any one language of north from offered north languages i will pick up hindi. Ofcourse i want to learn pure hindi as we saw in chankya serial not local dialects.

Its time our budding brains learn Maths, science and other subjects well rather than wasting time in learning a useless 3rd lang..

It would be simple if they keep English and Tamil (its for TN.. replace Tamil with Telugu for AP and so on..).. Well thats the thing actually happening now in TN schools. Students would focus on subjects rather on learning a redundant 3rd language.

If someone wants to live in Delhi, they will learn hindi automatically.. there are institutions like prachar sabha doing those work on the background all over india.. same thing applies if u wanna live in other states.

Some people think of creating a common language to break the barriers. Well we already have English as common language.. Why try creating another common language and invite redundancy?

If someone thinks, we need one Indian lang to be a common one rather than english, those people have to grow up. We need to think a common language that can be used to communicate across the world. And what else other than English?

If you speak to a person in the hinterland who has not even completed his primary education, defenitely he cannot understand hindi and i am not sure you spoke in Hindi to them or Tam-hindi which many Tamils who have learned it half baked do.

Hindi pandit certificate is not needed to survive in Hindi speaking states i.e there is no need of 12year long Hindi course needed in school to learn a language in the name of "common language"

when english is learnt by a hinterland gvt school kid in TN and a kid in naxal/maoist affected chattisgarh, what else "commonness" one need? Going by your concept When the students of non-hindi speaking spending time in learning 3rd language which has to be treated on par with 1st and 2nd language, what the Hindi speaking students will do?


From your argument, i can clearly conclude that you have not spent considerable period in any of the states after KA - AP belt.

opps! thanks for your wonderful prejudice!:lol: I spent 1 1/2years in Rajasthan and another 1year in Gujarat. Do you think i used Tamil for interacting there?? I learnt Hindi(not for writing poem are writing literation, just for communication) in 8months! One of my colleague learnt in 5months!... this is how those 12-13lakhs migrants tamils learnt Hindi.

May be you have spent times in cities in north, but i have spent in rural and those hinterlands!

You might live in TN itself and fortunate enough to land a lucrative job in Chennai, but in the current globalized world, people are forced to travel to the IT hubs of Gurgaon/Noida/Pune/Mumbai or Mfg hubs of Indore/Manesar/Rajkot/Faridabad/Pune/Jamshedpur etc for seeking employment opportunities in huge numbers which was not the case before 90's.

Thats out of facts! Mumbai and Delhi migrants are not the recent ones, they migrated to these cities when Chennai or Bengaluru or TN is not in position to provide job! The rate of migration to Mumbai/Delhi from TN might have falled in 2011 compared to 1991! We can very well wait for official data.
Only people who have secured govt or Defense jobs used to migrate that too in small numbers to northern states till 90's.

So when a youth lands in said areas from TN, he finds himself severly handicapped as feels like landing in a alien country and with great difficulty learns Hindi and for that he has to struggle for 6+ months.

what ever you spoon feed for 12years in school, will help for migration and makes one to communicate is Hindi?? I can only tell this as fools paradise! The school Hindi helps you for reading Hindi and understand Hindi, it never gives any chance for spoken Hindi! Even those proclaimed Hindi pandits in TN i.e who ever claims i have completed all those 7-8 Hindi exams cannot speak Hindi.. then what is the use of it?

Be practical! Spoon feeding a 3rd language in school not going help anyway for spoken.

As if one speak fluent Hindi, do you think they will not see you as alien? even a fluent Hindi speaking Telugu/Mallu will be considered as Madrassi even now!! Don't make an imagination fort that learning Hindi at school will destruct that attitude.


Ask any of your friends who have migrated to above KA-AP states and the initial harship they faced due to lack of knowledge of Hindi. So, you will again ask, why only HINDI, i reiterate, its being spoken by 40% of Indian population and it can serve as a right means of communication between the diverse Indian population as penetration of English is not to that great extent except metros and big cities.

Now we will take the migrant Tamils to see where all they went, i am sure 90% of them went to big cities and towns (above AP - KA) where Hindi knowledge is a must. So do you want to argue that just becoz 10% landed in areas where Hindi is not prevalent, its not required. We as a country require one common language to communicate across the nation seamlessly.

So for the sake of those migrants, one wants rest 7.3crore people to learn a 3rd language! what a selfish attitude!

And my point is even if taught is schools it is not going to help! I myself seen how hinterland or non-metro students from AP or KL "learns" Hindi after landing in hindi speaking states! I have explained enough the school Hindi does not help for spoken Hindi after seeing many examples from KA/AP/KL. And still that 40% arguments thinks me to write Anna's example!


Then why need english, let us send it back to British and why we need regional language?

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You made my imagination very easy, you are one of them.

Thank you again for your pre-judice and under standing.


I was one of the 7 lac people you quoted for a good number of years i know how people suffer when they initially land in NCR or any region, obviously for survival they learn the language fast, do you want them to suffer.....

So again i have the same Q like above! FOr the selfish need of these migrants, why a whole state has to learn a 3rd language? i.e to overcome the suffering of these migrants, who state people has to suffer with 3rd language! superb logic!


Have you ever interacted with Kearlites or Kannadigas ...i doubt. Even many of the auto fellows in Kerala can understand basic Hindi and i am not talking about Auto wallas of TVM or Cochin here but of even TierII towns.

If you have read my post fully, you might have not asked this Q! I shared my Kerala exp where auto driver or taxi driver could not speak Hindi. I myself studied in a col where 30% of class mates are from Kerala, their school Hindi is used for seeing bollywood movie and not for spoken Hindi. Kerala people where ever they go, they can learn that language so fast that any other people! Travel to Kanara coast, you can count the no. of people talking in Hindi... North Karnataka is an exception, as it is totally different from south!



I dont see in what context you are arguing about northins learning south languages when they are here....:nuts:

You could not comprehend? northies when come down south learn southies language, like wise southies when travel to north learn northie language! Yes it takes time..... but again for these migrants, what a selfish logic that there should be a common language and it should imposed in school level which is not going be practically helpful.




Boy, its a globalized world and people have to move every nook and corner of the city, Chennai cannot give jobs all people of TN. People are learning Spanish and Japanese to get jobs and you are saying why should i learn Hindi as if you are being asked to learn Sinhalese (assuming you will never land in SL for sure)

Another prejudice! May be your view glass of Hindi covers entire India, but my view glass covers it to Hindi speaking states and rest shows me their respective regional language. When there is a need and arise, respective language has to be learnt not that 7.3crores people in TN will land in Hindi speaking state.

This what CEO of Ford India told after he spent some time in India, "Indian is not a single country, its like Europe, i.e its like so many european countries put together, so diverse it is", you need a common language for people to communicate seamlessly. If you feel that common language should not be HINDI, then shall we have ENGLISH....:bash:

English is there for corporate world! And those hinterlands also will leanr english soon.. so why one should cry?




Finally this will be the bottom line of my argument

We need one common language to communicate seamlessly across the nation. Numbers prove that Hindi is most spoken language in India, then we have no other choice than learning it as it will helps easy communication. We have to accept this fact.
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Note: You will answer for sure to each and every argument of mine. Dont expect me to reply as i am done with mine.

Already there is one common language making in due course! there is no need of 2nd common language for India.

Note: I am done with mine too.... I replied to your post since you had your own prejudice on me and wrote as you wished as if i never crossed the borders of TN or KA-AP otherwise, i don't want to spend replying this already enough grinded language debate.

These discussions remind me of 'Ek gaav mae...ek kissan' ... :rofl:

Its time our budding brains learn Maths, science and other subjects well rather than wasting time in learning a useless 3rd lang..

It would be simple if they keep English and Tamil (its for TN.. replace Tamil with Telugu for AP and so on..).
True!
Even the second language should be only till 8th. If some one wants to do M.A in Tamil/Hindi he/she can do it after 11th.

what ever you spoon feed for 12years in school, will help for migration and makes one to communicate is Hindi?? I can only tell this as fools paradise! The school Hindi helps you for reading Hindi and understand Hindi, it never gives any chance for spoken Hindi! Even those proclaimed Hindi pandits in TN i.e who ever claims i have completed all those 7-8 Hindi exams cannot speak Hindi.. then what is the use of it?.

Fully agree with you on this point. My sister completed all Hindi courses available up to the final examination (Praveen or whatever it's called), while I didn't know a single word of Hindi till I moved to Mumbai for job.

Fast-forward 1.5 years from the time I moved out then (well even now after 16 years) my spoken Hindi improved a lot and I am lot fluent and confident than her who still lives between Chennai or Bangalore where she has less necessity to speak Hindi. I used to make fun of her Hindi whenever she speaks. It sounds so artificial and has a "senthamizh" like touch to it ( might be a better Hindi but not spoken one).

Also like you said, after all we learn a new language only to speak to laymen in that part and not for any literature work. For that half-baked Hindi is sufficient and you can always progress as time gets by.

PS. Even when it comes to tamil. I love Namitha's tamil than regular spoken tamil nowadays :lol:

^^ Namitha Tamil thaan namma Tamil-nu sollunga. :lol: Appo, neenga enna solreenga - Namitha kooda padicha, any language ok? :lol:

These discussions remind me of 'Ek gaav mae...ek kissan' ... :rofl:

You missed quoting the funny part - "raghu thatha"

LOL (watch the comedy from 1.29)
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i was to post this in education thread and cc one of our forumers. but since topic related here posting it

A few months ago, the then M. Karunanidhi government set the Centre a condition for opening Navodaya Vidyalayas in Tamil Nadu.

It was ready to provide land for these schools, the DMK government said, but only if they began teaching in English and Tamil and not in Hindi.

The Union human resource development ministry did not agree and dropped the proposal. Navodaya Vidyalayas continue to exist in all the states and Union territories except Tamil Nadu.

Yet the current trend of Tamil Nadu students increasingly choosing to learn Hindi, with some even opting for Hindi as the medium of instruction, appears to make nonsense of the erstwhile DMK government’s stand. (See chart)

More than four decades after the DMK rode an anti-Hindi agitation to power in Tamil Nadu, it seems the state’s people are increasingly jettisoning their perceived hostility towards India’s dominant language.

With Hindi not even taught as a subject in Tamil Nadu’s government schools, many people from the state are studying the language through courses offered by the Central Hindi Directorate (CHD) and the Dakshin Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha.

Even more surprisingly, many are opting to study university-level humanities courses offered by the Prachar Sabha — BA, MA, MPhil and PhD in political science or history as well as BEd — with Hindi as the medium of instruction.

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This report is totally idiotic. It is published to substantiate a preset point of view... Nothing more than that. So why don't they compare people learning french in TN with respect to people learning Hindi in TN.

If people learning french is higher whether does it make any sense to implement french in govt schools in TN:nuts: This is how the report is misleading!

wikipedia la nami tamil nu oru slang ku page othukunga!

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CI,

On your link on tamil words in english, i guess even balcony can find place.

பலகனி become balcony?

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On this language i want to mention one last point! Common/National/Imposition of language only bring civil wars, our two neighbours were the example for the same... even in ancient India, though lot of kingdom snatched power from one other breaking geo boundaries, they never imposed one region language on other and they never tried for a common language for so called development or communication.. but still milk and honey ran through ancient India.

Let the central gvt first treat all regional language like the another regional language Hindi in its office! The let them speak about 3rd language, national integrity, patritoism, security, indianness etc.,

Last month when i was in coimbatore passport office, in counters i could see info boards in Hindi and English.. but not in Tamil! This is how 99% of central gvt office will treat the regional language when they are non-hindi speaking state!

Even after 1965 riots, this is how CG treats regional language!!

+1, Here in UK you can take driving theory tests in Tamil

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/TheoryTest/DG_4022538

But if you go to the Indian Consulate (atleast the one I went in Birmingham), they wont even talk in English... they will talk only in Hindi.

ஹிந்தி படிக்காததால் மதிப்பை இழந்தோம்: சாலமன் பாப்பையா

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Enough damage is already done, TN people have already realised this. Atleast the present Govt should introduce Hindi in Govt schools so that atleast basic level proficiency is attained by the students in Hindi.

People have different ideologies and i respect them. But no one should enforce their ideologies to others and make them follow that.


Subbu you have to remember one thing DMK was the first regional party to rule an Indian state kicking out congress. It was able to achieve that only because of anti-hindi agitation.

Going by your assumption if people want to learn Hindi, well congress or any other party, do they have the guts to face the election by showcasing in their election propaganda that "in government schools Hindi will be mandatory". If they do so it will be the end of road for that political party.

Secondly, how many of them have migrated out of TN to north indian states. May be 5%, for that 95% have to suffer learning hindi. I am damn sure that the % of people migrating to foreign countries from TN will be much greater than people migrating to north indian states.

Finally , English is a universal language. Even china and other non-native English speaking countries are switching over to English. They have realized building good interpersonal and communication skills in English will fetch jobs in global market. So it is retrospective to think about implementing hindi. We have to be prospective in looking forward for the future.

This whole conversation has gone off track. to me this is not about hindi or any language.

A good school is being missed by tn on a useless issue when all other states are making use of it

Navodyas are not kendriya vidyalayas. There are on 3 languages.

for that matter cbse is also three languages, except ur third language will be taught between 6th and 8th and its ur preference depedning on what a school offers.

Allow the school and if students are okay taking up hindi as one of the languages whats our problem?

As long as our students benefit and come out, we need not worry about them learning hindi. i just dont understand why we have no issues with school offerring non indian languages and see red moment its english.

come to chennai, no of people opting for french is far higher than those opting tamil in matric boards of private biards, despite knowing state wont recognize u as a rank holder. People dont see red over it, but see red over an indian language.


Just leave to students whether to use that school or not. why do you want to block a school on most silliest issue?


each private school has its own curriculum. Schools have so many extra curricular activities which are mandatory.

We had swimming, arts, cooking.health education and many more mandatory. here its another language. Even this can be waste of time and only main subjects be taught will be stupid idea.

as long as tamil too is mandatory, we should have no issues.

let the school come and students decide whether to go there r or not as certain things are mandatory. why should we decide on whether school come or not?


As regard being spoon fed, english too is same case. tamil too is same case. all language learning in schools is same case as our curriculum is hardly tuned towards listening and speaking skills.

in my school we had listening labs as well as marks for ur ability to speak.

Definitely language curriculum needs to involve leistening, reading and writing



On a side note,any language, the ability to read the script and understand it can be imparted in 6th class easily. One yr enough for a language.

hence ideally instead of all nonsense barring the medium of instruction, students can be trained in 3 indian langueges in just 3yrs between 6th and 8th when their understanding and grasping is at best and heaviness of other subject less. that should help them in their mobility issues easily.

Namitha kooda padicha, any language ok? :lol:

nalla velai, mudhalla naanu oru flowla thappa purinjikitten :lol:

Jokes apart basically I am okay with schools offering multiple language options and let the students (and parents initially) to choose what they want!! (And applies to state board schools of other states as well). And English or Tamil (or any language for that matter) shouldn't be graded unless it's part of higher studies. Instead why not bring in couple of papers on "thozhir kalvi" and grade them?

This whole conversation has gone off track. to me this is not about hindi or any language.



The gist of the article is misleading thats what my opinion.

If providing quality education is the only motto for central government with regard to Navodaya, why can't they go ahead without Hindi? What prevents them from doing so?

nalla velai, mudhalla naanu oru flowla thappa purinjikitten :lol:



Theiryume...:) neenga eppavume ippadithan esaman. Namitha manthram .Machan kiss sorry.... machan kis..kis... kiskaaan.

You missed quoting the funny part - "raghu thatha"

LOL (watch the comedy from 1.29)
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^^ I have shown this video and explained this to most of my Hindi friends and have told them that is what we do when we learn Hindi! :lol:

nalla velai, mudhalla naanu oru flowla thappa purinjikitten :lol:

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Megavum mosam aaya neer! :lol:

Nellai,

leave that artcile, i am not arguing it based on article. every school has its right to decide its curriculum, apart from mandatory one required as per syllabus.

When all other states have no issue why tn is creating a fuss?

if students dont want to learn hindi they wont enroll in the school. as simple as that.

no offence meant here to anyone--

There are n missionary schools were bible learning is compulsory, part of regular class. Now to say u can start school only if all are christians or no such class is foolish. They even have tests on it

Students enroll knowing that fully well. leave it to students thats it.

What right does state govt have to deny the opportunity? leave the student to decide.

that the crux of my argument.


KT is right, for language tests need to be only graded and not for marks and need not be part of totals. Its just must be under communication ability.

This reform needed. anyways cbse has moved to grade system.

KT,

whats this thozhir kalvi?

More than that i think all school must have basic health education, and most importantly basic law education.

What allows police to get away most dont even know basic law.

Introduce grade system like cbse till 10th and have this law education in 9th and 10th.

Many dont know whats wrong what right.

^^ Thozil kalvi is Vocational education.

Megavum mosam aaya neer! :lol:

ஆயா வா? :lol:

If you speak to a person in the hinterland who has not even completed his primary education, defenitely he cannot understand hindi and i am not sure you spoke in Hindi to them or Tam-hindi which many Tamils who have learned it half baked do.





From your argument, i can clearly conclude that you have not spent considerable period in any of the states after KA - AP belt.

You might live in TN itself and fortunate enough to land a lucrative job in Chennai, but in the current globalized world, people are forced to travel to the IT hubs of Gurgaon/Noida/Pune/Mumbai or Mfg hubs of Indore/Manesar/Rajkot/Faridabad/Pune/Jamshedpur etc for seeking employment opportunities in huge numbers which was not the case before 90's. Only people who have secured govt or Defense jobs used to migrate that too in small numbers to northern states till 90's.

So when a youth lands in said areas from TN, he finds himself severly handicapped as feels like landing in a alien country and with great difficulty learns Hindi and for that he has to struggle for 6+ months. Ask any of your friends who have migrated to above KA-AP states and the initial harship they faced due to lack of knowledge of Hindi. So, you will again ask, why only HINDI, i reiterate, its being spoken by 40% of Indian population and it can serve as a right means of communication between the diverse Indian population as penetration of English is not to that great extent except metros and big cities.


Now we will take the migrant Tamils to see where all they went, i am sure 90% of them went to big cities and towns (above AP - KA) where Hindi knowledge is a must. So do you want to argue that just becoz 10% landed in areas where Hindi is not prevalent, its not required. We as a country require one common language to communicate across the nation seamlessly.

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You made my imagination very easy, you are one of them.




I was one of the 7 lac people you quoted for a good number of years i know how people suffer when they initially land in NCR or any region, obviously for survival they learn the language fast, do you want them to suffer.....





Have you ever interacted with Kearlites or Kannadigas ...i doubt. Even many of the auto fellows in Kerala can understand basic Hindi and i am not talking about Auto wallas of TVM or Cochin here but of even TierII towns.





I dont see in what context you are arguing about northins learning south languages when they are here....:nuts:




Boy, its a globalized world and people have to move every nook and corner of the city, Chennai cannot give jobs all people of TN. People are learning Spanish and Japanese to get jobs and you are saying why should i learn Hindi as if you are being asked to learn Sinhalese (assuming you will never land in SL for sure)






This what CEO of Ford India told after he spent some time in India, "Indian is not a single country, its like Europe, i.e its like so many european countries put together, so diverse it is", you need a common language for people to communicate seamlessly. If you feel that common language should not be HINDI, then shall we have ENGLISH....:bash:



Finally this will be the bottom line of my argument

We need one common language to communicate seamlessly across the nation. Numbers prove that Hindi is most spoken language in India, then we have no other choice than learning it as it will helps easy communication. We have to accept this fact.
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Note: You will answer for sure to each and every argument of mine. Dont expect me to reply as i am done with mine.

I still cant believe people want to learn hindi in 21st century
For conversation you can pick any new Indian language in months or in 2 or 3 years why bother learning it in school all through 12 years ?

Infact for Upper class folks in any part of the country they can survive with English except to go into politics.

Will Jaya play a national role?

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முதல்வராக மூன்றாவது முறையாக பொறுப்பேற்றதற்கு, நடிகர் சங்கத்தின் சார்பில் பாராட்டு விழா நடத்த விரும்புவதாக தெரிவிக்கப்பட்ட கோரிக்கையை,முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா ஏற்க மறுத்துவிட்டார். தென்னிந்திய நடிகர் சங்கத்தின் தலைவர் மற்றும் நிர்வாகிகள், முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதாவை தலைமைச் செயலகத்தில் சந்தித்தனர்.அப்போது,"நடிகர்களுக்கு பையனூர் அருகே முந்தைய அரசு, 99ம் ஆண்டு குத்தகைக்கு நிலம் ஒதுக்கியது.அந்த இடம் தூரமாக இருப்பதாலும், சொந்தமாக வாங்க முடியாததாலும்,பலரும் அதை வாங்க முன்வரவில்லை. எனவே, அருகிலேயே குறைந்த இடமாக இருந்தாலும்,சொந்தமாக வாங்கும் வகையில் இடம் ஒதுக்க வேண்டும் எனக் கோரினர். இதை பரிசீலிப்பதாக முதல்வர் தெரிவித்தார்.

இந்த சந்திப்பு குறித்து சங்க நிர்வாகிகள் கூறியதாவது: இலங்கை அரசுக்கு, பொருளாதார தடை விதிக்க வலியுறுத்தி தமிழக அரசு நிறைவேற்றிய தீர்மானத்தை, பெரிதுபடுத்தும் வகையில்,சென்னையில் கவர்னர் மாளிகை நோக்கியோ அல்லது டில்லியிலோ நடிகர்கள் சார்பில் பேரணி நடத்த விரும்புவதாக தெரிவித்தோம். சிறப்பாக நடத்துமாறு முதல்வர் கூறினார்.

மூன்றாவது முறையாக முதல்வராக பொறுப்பேற்றதற்கு, நடிகர் சங்கத்தின் சார்பில் பாராட்டு விழா நடத்த விரும்புவதாக தெரிவித்தோம். அதற்கு முதல்வர், பட்ஜெட் தயாரிப்பு பணியில் தீவிரமாக இருப்பதாகவும், தினமும் ஆய்வுக் கூட்டங்களை நடத்த இருப்பதாகவும் கூறி, இப்போதைக்கு எந்த விழாவும் வேண்டாமென, தெரிவித்துவிட்டார். இவ்வாறு அவர்கள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

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Jaya refuses to participate in a function organized by the Cine Actors association. Very appreciable move and good to note her desire to prioratize her time for the right activities.

28June2011, The NewIE

CHENNAI: In an interview with an English TV News Channel on Monday, Chief Minister Jayalalithaa, responding to questions pertaining to a possible political realignment before the 2014 general elections, said that in politics, especially Indian politics, “anything can happen anytime.”


She added that in a scenario where equations were constantly shifting and changing, it becomes pertinent for all political parties to be flexible to fit into the scheme of things.

“To be successful, you have to be capable of flexibility … You should know what is best for your party and, more importantly, for the people who have reposed their faith in you,” was her take on the issue.

In the same breath, she did not rule out the possibility of a third front emerging ahead the 2014 general elections. “Anything can happen in the future,” she said.

Asked about her purportedly softening her stand towards the Centre, she said that at a time when Tamil Nadu was facing difficulty due to the “maladministration of the previous regime” the state now required the support of the Centre to come out of it.

Elaborating, she said Tamil Nadu was under a debt of Rs 1 lakh crore rupees in terms of bonds and market borrowings, and the Electricity Board had run up a debt of Rs 45,000 crore. There was deficit in almost every department, she said.

“I am the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu and it is my bounden duty to secure the best deal from the Centre for the State.”

Asked to why her government scrapped the populist schemes implemented by the DMK government that benefited people, Jayalalithaa said she did away with only those schemes that were unproductive, “a colossal drain on the state’s resources and those that were drawn up to benefit the DMK functionaries”.

Besides, she said her government had set up only one commission of inquiry-to probe the alleged irregularities in the construction of the new secretariat complex.

Embargo against Lanka

Strongly arguing her case for economic embargo against Sri Lanka, Jayalalithaa said that the Centre should push the neighbour to accord equal rights to Tamils and rehabilitate them to enable them to live with dignity.

She said she had brought in a resolution in the State Assembly demanding that those guilty of war crimes in Sri Lanka be declared war criminals by the United Nations and proceeded against at the International Criminal Court.

Till that was achieved, an economic embargo must be declared by the Indian government against Lanka.

Katchatheevu row

The other resolution pertained to the retrieval of Katchatheevu island. Jayalalithaa said she had filed a case at the Supreme Court seeking a direction to declare the ceding of island as null and void.

She recalled the proposal for ceding Berubari in West Bengal to Pakistan in the 1960s that was scuttled by the then West Bengal Chief Minister B C Roy.

He had approached the Supreme Court against the proposal, which ordered that for any part of Indian territory to be ceded to any other country, the proposal has to be placed before both Houses of Parliament, ratified by them and a Constitutional Amendment be adopted by both Houses.

Katchatheevu was ceded to Sri Lanka in 1974 without any such procedure and the then Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, Karunanidhi, did not do anything to stop it, Jayalalithaa charged. “Why didn’t he approach the Supreme Court?” she wondered.

“I have been urging the Government of India to do something about it or, at least, take Katchatheevu on lease in perpetuity so that our fishermen could fish around the island,” Jayalalithaa added.

Nellai,

leave that artcile, i am not arguing it based on article. every school has its right to decide its curriculum, apart from mandatory one required as per syllabus.

When all other states have no issue why tn is creating a fuss?

if students dont want to learn hindi they wont enroll in the school. as simple as that.

no offence meant here to anyone--

There are n missionary schools were bible learning is compulsory, part of regular class. Now to say u can start school only if all are christians or no such class is foolish. They even have tests on it

Students enroll knowing that fully well. leave it to students thats it.

What right does state govt have to deny the opportunity? leave the student to decide.

that the crux of my argument.


KT is right, for language tests need to be only graded and not for marks and need not be part of totals. Its just must be under communication ability.

This reform needed. anyways cbse has moved to grade system.


In TN nowadays even private schools in rural place have Hindi as 3rd language from 3rd to 8th std and those christian missionary schools are much more interested in teaching Hindi than sarada/ramakrishna type missionary school.

Most of here support for 3rd language but not to the status of 1st and 2nd language and no need fo govt to implement it for 12years with state board exams.

And next, the dicussion got off track because of common language stressed for usage for day to day life and that too with 3rd language which is practically impossible!

If it has to come for day to day life usage we have to abolish the regional language usage in house/public place, then only we can become that fluent in 3rd language and can be common language. MH/GJ/Orissa is different case as learning Hindi for them is easy because of the family of language. For one from TN learning/understanding/speaking Telugu/Malayalam would be much easier than learning Hindi.

bottom line: we have enough private school in nook and corner of the state teaching Hindi from 3rd to 8th standard. So there is no point in bashing Mu.Ka or other dravidian party leaders for the same.

ஆயா வா? :lol:
Sorry, oru typo aagivitadhu! :lol:

I still cant believe people want to learn hindi in 21st century


So true.

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Originally Posted by R2IChennai
I still cant believe people want to learn hindi in 21st century

So true.

Here in Doha , Even Arabs speak Hindi(due to business compulsions).
I could see Srilankan Tamil and Sinhale speaking in Hindi.

You like it or not, Hindi had arrived in big stage.

Even i leant speaking hindi by interacting with friends.
In places outside India, to bond with ur own country men there must be a common language(other than English).

I dont know is everyone feels the same way! But for Me Speaking in English gives me "Official" feeling. And iam not able to enjoy fun time with pals. I would rather speak Buggy Hindi and dance rather than speak in English and sit straight when drunk:cheers:.

Hindi adopted by southern states? May be you are talking about Metro cities like Bengaluru and Hyderabad that does not mean entire pop of AP or KA or KL knows Hindi!

I used my Hindi in Kerala and hinterlands of AP and southern KA, opps they cannot answer or understand Hindi, but instead when i used tamil mixed with malayalam and tamil mixed with telugu, they can understand easily!

It is just another maya created that entire south adopted, understand, speaks Hindi and only TN does speak Hindi.. travel to hinterland of Gujarat, they cannot even understand Hindi, only Gujarati they speak! There are many such hinterland to length and breadth of the country.

And for this subbu,

Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

Why you questioned Kannada alone? I live in TN itself, what is the need of 3rd language for me?? what Hindi can also do wonders for me living in TN?

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With above debate, don't imagine i am with an attitude of anti-Hindi!

There are estimated 7lakhs tamils in National Capital teritory and another 5-6lakhs tamils in Mumbai, in which school these tamils learnt Hindi?

Leaving native tamils aside in Bengaluru, did Hindi helped the 1970-95's migrants or Kannada?

Or in which school the lakhs of gujaratis and marwaris in Chennai, Coimbatore, Madurai, Erode, Salem learnt Tamil for doing business here?

When the need arise, they learnt the respective language, 3rd language policy does not going to have any effect on our day to day life! it is just another P.T or dance or craft class and those states having 3rd language leave that in school itself.

And i don't see any advantage of learning 3rd language when there is "NO USE"!! for the sake of few migrants, frequent traveling business people (may be less than 5-6% of one state population) there is no need for rest 95-96% to break their head for 3rd language (seeing it as compulsory and treating on par with 1st or 2nd language)

You cannot see, India like China here... pls compare it with Europe! None of the european countries might be serious with 3rd language, this does not stop their development or communication.

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Let the central gvt first treat all regional language like the another regional language Hindi in its office! The let them speak about 3rd language, national integrity, patritoism, security, indianness etc.,

Last month when i was in coimbatore passport office, in counters i could see info boards in Hindi and English.. but not in Tamil! This is how 99% of central gvt office will treat the regional language when they are non-hindi speaking state!

Even after 1965 riots, this is how CG treats regional language!!

Well said and Very true. I have met so many Tamil people who feel bad as they could not converse with Taxi drivers in GULF. They complain as if Anti CompulsoryHindi Agitation has taken away their privilege of Learning Hindi while conveniently forgeting that they would not have even landed in GCC (As they would not have learnt English).

Please Respect the People Who have lost their life in Anti - Compulsory Hindi Agitation. Please dont even pass any comments on doubting their intentions.

When Need arises the Individual will learn the language.

Arul,

I had asked quite a few of my friends for background info. Also checked their websites.

while state has to provide land and temp buildings they take care of rest of facilities,operation cost. The schools are mainly set in rural areas and are residential type schools.

They begin only in 6th. admission is possible in 9th and 11th also.

75% of seats reserved for rural students. min of 22% reserved for sc,st. if state has more population of sc st then that percentage is reserved.

33.33% of total intake reserved for girls. 3% for disabled.

From 9th fees of 200 per month is collected. This is waived off for sc,st, and girls, disabled.

BPL families also need not pay.

food stay, travel expenses are all free.

Ineffect an excellent scheme on the face of it.

also from std 9, schools have exchange program were 20 students sent to another school in another state and 20 from that school brought in here.

When I was told this, I smelt a rat. this stupid idea is where the whole catch is.

So i decided to check out kerala jnv and karaikal jnv.

karaikal had this listed

Science Quiz

02. 24-06-2006 elocution n in Hindi

03. 08-07-2006 recitation in Tamil

04 19-08-2006 Elocution in English

05. 26-08-2006 Story Telling in Tamil – Juniors

06. 09-09-2006 Story Telling in English - Juniors

07. 23-09-2006 General Quiz

08. 14-10-2006 Story Telling in Hindi - Juniors

09. 28-10-2006 Group Dance

10. 11-11-2006 Art Competition

11. 25-11-2006 Group Song and Fancy Dress

12. 10-12-2006 Mono Acting

13. 24-12-2006 Debate in Tamil - Seniors




This looks good. but no. a further digging reveals it.

The schools say regional language is the medium of instruction but the stupid scheme of transfer of students ensures a catch as i suspected.


I am quoting from kannur website

In view of the (act that most of the students admitted were taught earlier through the medium of the mother-tongue/regional language, instruction is provided through the same medium upto Class VIII during which time intensive teaching of Hindi & English both as language subjects and co-media are undertaken through skilful use of the media and modern techniques of teaching languages, so that switch over to Hindi/English after Class VII or VIII presents no difficulty. Thereafter the common medium in all Navodaya Vidyalayas is Hindi for Social Studies and Humanities and English for Mathematics and Science.

The Scheme of Navodaya Vidyalayas provides for implementation of the Three Language Formula.
The third language taught in Hindi speaking districts is linked with the migration of Students. In the Hindi speaking districts, the third language taught in a Navodaya Vidyalaya is the language of the 30% students migrating to that Vidyalaya from non-Hindi regions. This language is compulsory for all. In the non-Hindi regions, Navodaya Vidyalayas follow the normal Three Language Formula i.e. regional language, Hindi and English.

So prima facie, TN govt/muka is justified in rejecting it. I now wonder why our tamil forumer friend who studied there was pumping for it.

This is a clever way. why should we give land building, let them spend their cost and do it if they want. CG has enough funds, and is robbing the states nicely for sometime, let them spend from their own pocket if they want to bring that school to tn.

Well said and Very true. I have met so many Tamil people who feel bad as they could not converse with Taxi drivers in GULF. They complain as if Anti CompulsoryHindi Agitation has taken away their privilege of Learning Hindi while conveniently forgeting that they would not have even landed in GCC (As they would not have learnt English).

Please Respect the People Who have lost their life in Anti - Compulsory Hindi Agitation. Please dont even pass any comments on doubting their intentions.

When Need arises the Individual will learn the language.

All are against making Hindi compulsary. Please dont have any doubt on this matter.
But iam simply against over glorifieng English over Hindi. As for as ur point that without english u cannot be here in Gulf is wrong.
Just like 95% of Russians dont know English here 99% of locals dont even know a letter in English alphabet.

Here in ME right from Taxi drivers(mostly Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis and Srilankans) , Shop to any Govt-Business office u can finish ur work with decent Hindi. But With Only English u have to get the help of some Local or a person who can converse in Hindi/Urdu/Arabic to get ur work done.

Siruthai,
Not True

Please Whether you like it or not English is going to be there for sure. Even India cant forgo english in Present conditions. Please dont feel bad that you could not converse with Taxi driver or Bangladeshi workers as they never felt sorry for not knowing Malayalam (Widely spoken in ME). Have you ever any met any other People who has other mother feeling bad for doing not knowing your language. If you still feel otherwise keep that as your personal opinion but please dont advocate for others to learn.

All of you feeling and agitated that centre is encroaching on state domain read this

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/article2142475.ece


This govt has been bringing one scheme after another usurping the power of states.

Jaya rightly also opposed the cvb.

It has already played with finances to ensure states are begging the centre.

similarly i checked out samastipur,bihar website

Our Vidyalaya having Migration System from Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Valasapally, Distt. Chittoor, Andhra Pradesh (Hydrabad Region). Our Vidyalaya having the Telugu as a Third language. Students of our Vidyalaya migrated to above Vidyalaya in Std. IX and vice versa.


problem is having hindi as moi for humanities subjects from 9th. had it not been there, moi was english for all courses and both regional language and hindi were just treated as languages without naming them 2nd, 3rd,
this school was fine. else not ok.

excellent infra, and apart from intial building for few yrs, they build their own building. this samastipur one located on 38 acres in pucca rural area.

Arul,

I had asked quite a few of my friends for background info. Also checked their websites.

while state has to provide land and temp buildings they take care of rest of facilities,operation cost. The schools are mainly set in rural areas and are residential type schools.

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Its not Hindi vs Tamil or Tamil Vs Englsih or Hindi Vs Englisn. Its Being Practical. Our Human Brain can learn any number of languages. My uncle is 8th fail but can speak in almost 10 languages.
Chance to learn a new language shoulde be treated as a gift(any language).
It will just open up a new world of literature to entertainment.
Particularly childrens can learn easily. If learning hindi(also) can help practically in their life(outsideTN) why should we stop the childrens from learning it.

http://static.flickr.com/50/128077592_bfbb1b9fe0_o.jpg


Chennai, Jun 29 : Journalist and Popular TV Anchor A Williams Rabi Bernard was today nominated as the ruling AIADMK Candidate for the July 22 byelections to fill up the lone Rajya Sabha Seat from the Tamil Nadu Assembly.

The candidature of Mr Bernard was announced by Tamil Nadu Chief Minister and AIADMK General Secretary J Jayalalithaa in a statement here. A well-known journalist, Mr Bernard had served in various TV channels before he joined the Jaya TV in which he had been anchoring several programmes.

The candidature of Mr Bernard was decided at a meeting of the newly-constituted meeting of the Party's Administrative Committee, held at Ms Jayalalithaa's Poes Garden Residence.

The committee, headed by Ms Jayalalithaa, also comprised AIADMK Presidium Chairman E Madhusudhanan, Finance Minister and Party Treasurer O Panneerselvan, AIADMK Organising Secretary Dr Visalakshi Nedunchezhian, Animal Husbandry Minister and Party Organising Secretary C Karuppasamy, Former Rajya Sabha Member S P M Syed Khan and Party Minorities Welfare Wing President A Justin Selvaraj.

The seat fell vacant on May 20 following the resignation of AIADMK Member K V Ramalingam, who got elected in the Assembly Polls and became the Public Works Department Minister. The Election Commission had already announced the poll schedule and the notification for the polls would be issued on July five.

The last date for filing of nomination was July 12. The scrutiny would take place on July 13 and the last date for withdrawal of candidates was July 15. The elections, if necessary, would take place on July 22 between 0900 hrs and 1600 hrs.

Siruthai,
Not True

"What is Not True?"

Please Whether you like it or not English is going to be there for sure. Even India cant forgo english in Present conditions. Please dont feel bad that you could not converse with Taxi driver or Bangladeshi workers as they never felt sorry for not knowing Malayalam (Widely spoken in ME). Have you ever any met any other People who has other mother feeling bad for doing not knowing your language. If you still feel otherwise keep that as your personal opinion but please dont advocate for others to learn.

Please be kind enough to take my point as it is. I am not discrediting English. It has its well esatablished place in sciene world(almost comparable to Russian). Similarly in Literature(it is as good as French).

But Hindi as a language with 2 times the litterature(of age, qauntity and quality) and spoken by Indians(Gujrati, Marathi etc) , Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis in one form or other if thought in school as a 3rd language otherthan Tamil, English then what is wrong in it.
Having knowledge/Knowing Hindi is not going to harm once memory.
It is not that if u learn Hindi then u cannot learn English. Its not THIS or
THAT it can be BOTH.
Childrens brain is well adapted for learning ew languages. Iam not advocating every childrens should be thought Science in Hindi but atleast as a language untill class 6th to 9th is advisable.

Siruthai,

Did you even read my posts so far on this issue? its not as third language but as medium of instruction

Siruthai,

Did you even read my posts so far on this issue? its not as third language but as medium of instruction

I read ur post, Crust of the matter is

Thereafter the common medium in all Navodaya Vidyalayas is Hindi for Social Studies and Humanities and English for Mathematics and Science.

Overall with this program if our rural childrens are having an oppurtunity to have good education at a cheap cost then why should SG stop it.

SG should have initiated some sincere meetings and let the Navodaya Vidyalayas be started with English as a medium to all and Hindi as just a subject, If SG is not able to impress upon the CG reagardin this then they should have prompty aggreed to this.
Because at the end of the day its childrens of TN who lost not the SG or CG.

siruthai,

I would have condemned sg, if cg wanted to set shop and sg prevented.

here issue is sg has to provide land. sg cant provide land and buildings for an institution with moi as hindi given history of state.

if cg had told we will pay for land and buildings, then sg must not have had an issue.

siruthai,

I would have condemned sg, if cg wanted to set shop and sg prevented.

here issue is sg has to provide land. sg cant provide land and buildings for an institution with moi as hindi given history of state.

if cg had told we will pay for land and buildings, then sg must not have had an issue.

Yeah..I can understand...I know u r not opposing this program without any reasons..but i just got frustrated that an educational program got unnecessarily tangled in Language problem and voteless childrens being losers...
I still feel TN govt should have Negotiated and let the schools come(with Some +ves and -ves from CG, SG point of views).
Regarding allocating Land by SG. I find no fault in it. It is afterall for a noble purpose of school. It s a kind of investment.
(For Science and Maths English is used as MOI , Only for Social Studies and Humanities Hindi is MOI, I am happy that Science and MAths are in English...Half Glass full of Water concept.)

I hope you are not married yet. An average Tamil child in ME studies minimum five langauges
1) English
2) Hindi
3) Arabic
4) Tamil.

Because of this Their linguistic skill is not strong enough in any one language. Slowly they are relegated to secondary citizen.

Dear Siruthai,

Please CG is really wanted to help rural children in TN they should have allowed it in Tamail. But that is not the purpose of CG. It you feel Novadya vidyalay would be panacea for solving the problem of rural area let them prove the same in UP/Bihar. Please dont think that if our rural children study Hindi there life would change at once.

I hope you are not married yet. An average Tamil child in ME studies minimum five langauges
1) English
2) Hindi
3) Arabic
4) Tamil.

Because of this Their linguistic skill is not strong enough in any one language. Slowly they are relegated to secondary citizen.

U r true, that iam not yet married. i even dont have any long term plan here.
But i am not speaking for a child whose father is earning in lakhs.
Iam speaking for childrens from rural places whose fathers annual income will not touch 10,000 rs.
Please dont think with that income no one can survive. There are people in rural places who are still very poor and for those children of very poor people education is the only hope.
If with this program even if a handfull of childrens would have crossed the poverty line then its a sin to stop this educational program for political reasons.

Dear Siruthai,

Please CG is really wanted to help rural children in TN they should have allowed it in Tamail. But that is not the purpose of CG. It you feel Novadya vidyalay would be panacea for solving the problem of rural area let them prove the same in UP/Bihar. Please dont think that if our rural children study Hindi there life would change at once.

Do u want MOI as Tamil. I think its a flaw. there are very few scientific books in research subjects in Tamil. Tamil as a Language is our mother tongue and should be respected. But that does not mean using Tamil as MOI for Science(all branches) and Maths.
MOI i support only English. if there is no other way Hindi / Tamil / XYZ is of for Social science.

People have taken this Hindi debate in different directions of their choice, my view point is that we as a diverse country need one common language that need to be spoken across all states. This will help in seamless communication. and for this:

-- It need not be taught for all 12 years of school eduction.

-- Just 3~5 years of Hinid education should be sufficient and it should be designed in such a way that people dont learn prose or poety but emphasis should be more on spoken and wirtten skills.

Fortunately or Unfortunately Hindi is spoken by a majority and we need to accept the fact and just ensure that every citizen should learn it for the sake of national integration and not as any punishment. What CG tried in 60's should have been too much but, taking into current Globalized world, its a defenite advantage to have one common language cutting across all states a diverse country like India.

Siruthai I was a child of such father only. Please Change your focus Education is not something about learning Language it is about Understanding. A rural Child can understand better in its own language with school presently existing rural TN than in other Language in Navodlya. Please adovacte for increasing the quality of the Education.
Since My Daughter is studying here in UAE, Hindi is compulsory for them. Not Hurt others (Hindi Speaking People) there was no quality learning in Hindi.The learning that we had in our Primary schools Like Athichudi, Thirukural, Bharathiar Songs which are some extent guiding us still now. Do you want our children to be deprived of this Vazhivial Elakium.

My Daughter gets 98% in Tamil Exams which we have arranged privately and shows more inclination in learning but Hindi she gets less that 35% and gets fever during the Exam time.

I am not advocating this principle because of My daughter is suffering. I am just trying to put things in perspective. What Arul, Leo, are advocating is really good one.

People have taken this Hindi debate in different directions of their choice, my view point is that we as a diverse country need one common language that need to be spoken across all states. This will help in seamless communication. and for this:

-- It need not be taught for all 12 years of school eduction.

-- Just 3~5 years of Hinid education should be sufficient and it should be designed in such a way that people dont learn prose or poety but emphasis should be more on spoken and wirtten skills.

Fortunately or Unfortunately Hindi is spoken by a majority and we need to accept the fact and just ensure that every citizen should learn it for the sake of national integration and not as any punishment. What CG tried in 60's should have been too much but, taking into current Globalized world, its a defenite advantage to have one common language cutting across all states a diverse country like India.

In the Present Globalised Situation Let us have English as a common Langauage across all the state.

Do u want MOI as Tamil. I think its a flaw. there are very few scientific books in research subjects in Tamil. Tamil as a Language is our mother tongue and should be respected. But that does not mean using Tamil as MOI for Science(all branches) and Maths.
MOI i support only English. if there is no other way Hindi / Tamil / XYZ is of for Social science.

I have mentioned MOI as Tamil wherever CG has proposed Hindi. I want English to stay.

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I am very happy to accept because I learned my profession through English only

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this again underscores the point i made before. St georges for needs to be rapped with modern facilities,. what does it take to get better chair and atmosphere.

See where the chief sec is sitting

Not only Hindi is important TN boys should learn spanish and Portugese also.
The reason is there are some good spanish speaking chicks all round US so it will be of great help for TN boys if they want to hang out with spanish girls. Just kidding learning many languages will only help a person but it will not do any harm to any person. Recent research says learning a new language at old age pushes onset of Alzemair disease.

this again underscores the point i made before. St georges for needs to be rapped with modern facilities,. what does it take to get better chair and atmosphere.

See where the chief sec is sitting

When i saw the news in dd pothigai in afternoon, i was remembering your old post! The seats looks too cramped!

b/w this time computer is missing on the table, b/w 2001-2006 there use to one on the table... i guess the table is waiting for the free lappy..:nuts:

Atleast the laptop supplier can be pressurized to setup its unit at Nanguneri SEZ for south tn development? we have to wait and see!

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this again underscores the point i made before. St georges for needs to be rapped with modern facilities,. what does it take to get better chair and atmosphere.

See where the chief sec is sitting

Hope they will go for better seating for visitors..

Btw, In the photo description in tamil, Peugoet is pronounced as "ப்யுஜீயாட்"(direct transliteration) but is actually a french word and should be pronounced as "பெஜோ".. Even in english they have misspelled as Peugeout instead of Peugeot. Also Citroen should be pronounced "சிதொயென்" ('r' is less pronounced).. Not "சிட்ரியான்"..

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/indicus-analyticsother-growth-story/440919/

Many Indian infants are still shockingly undernourished, especially in rural areas.

The prevalence of malnutrition in India is among the highest in the world. Given its impact on health, education and productivity, persistent undernutrition is a major obstacle to overall growth, especially among the poor. Following the World Health Organisation (WHO) Child Growth Standards, malnutrition is generally measured by three parameters — stunted (low height for age), underweight (low weight for age) and wasted (low weight for height).

World Bank statistics show that in 2006 around 48 per cent of Indian children below the age of five were too small for their age and 44 per cent were underweight. The corresponding estimates for China were 11 per cent and five per cent. Looking at the trend of malnourished children in 1992-93, it is obvious that India lags countries with similar growth patterns.

The third National Family Health Survey (NFHS-3), carried out in 2005-06, showed that the proportion of stunted children below three years declined by 11 percentage points. And the proportion of underweight children declined by five percentage points from 1998-99 to 2005-06. Over the same period, however, there was an increase in the proportion of wasted children from about 20 per cent to 23 per cent.

The 2005-06 survey showed that in rural areas, half of the young children were stunted, almost half were underweight, and one out of every five was wasted, while in urban areas, 40 per cent of young children were stunted and 17 per cent were wasted. Interestingly, despite the strong preference for sons in India, boys are as likely as girls to be underweight, stunted and wasted. NFHS data, in fact, note a strong inverse relationship between all three measures of nutrition and the level of the mother’s education, clearly indicating the impact of female schooling on the country’s health status .

There is large inter-state variation in the patterns of malnourishment among children. Looking at the proportion of children below the age of three, at least one in two children in Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and Jharkhand is underweight. The situation is equally worrying in Chhattisgarh, Meghalaya, Uttar Pradesh and Gujarat where more than 40 per cent of the children are underweight. These states also stand out with a strikingly high prevalence of stunted children. The lowest proportion of underweight children is in Mizoram, followed by Sikkim and Manipur, while Punjab, Goa and Kerala also perform relatively well on this indicator. More than half the children below three years are stunted in Chhattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.

At the other end, the proportion of stunted children in the best performing states like Goa and Kerala is almost half of what it is in the worst performing states. Sikkim, Tamil Nadu and Manipur also show good scores with less than a third of the children estimated as being stunted.

Clearly, while aggregate levels of undernutrition are shockingly high, the picture is exacerbated by the significant inequalities across states. With numerous causes for malnutrition, it is only with a rapid scaling up of health and education interventions that the children of next generation India will lead healthier and more productive lives.

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Namma Tamilnadu government Marave maradha? endha govt vandhalume Yen chennaiya suthiye Industries ellam irukanum nu nenakiranga? yen southern districts'a pathi yarume nenakka matengiranga?By the way i am not interested to start a debate but it is an agony.
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^^^^ Ayyayo marupadiyma :) 75-100 pages before there was a discussion on the same topic and there was a discussion ~ for 5-8 pages.
Nalla vela neeenga inga post pannenga, chennai thread la post paniruntheenga bash panniye sachituvanga :)

NA tamil sanga thalaivar KT kitta kelunga antha moothara santhu kathaiya solluvaru :lol:

Namma Tamilnadu government Marave maradha? endha govt vandhalume Yen chennaiya suthiye Industries ellam irukanum nu nenakiranga? yen southern districts'a pathi yarume nenakka matengiranga?By the way i am not interested to start a debate but it is an agony.
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let us wait for another 5months to decide whether this new gvt also willl travel in same path of gvt from 1991 to 2011 to dump other parts of statement without any FDI or even IDI(India's direct investment) :lol:

If there is no road plan, then we can happily start bashing it.:nuts:

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Mr.Spiderman,

Hindi is spoken by 40% of the populace in India and it makes sense that Hindi can be a common media of communication for a diverse country like India with so many languages prevalent. Assume i live in TN and instead of learning Hindi as 3rd language, i learn Kannada, what good will happen....can you help me understand better on your argument.

English does not have much penetration in the northern hinterlands and as Hindi speaking populace is the majority, it was chosen to be a common mode for communication. Hindi was adopted by all southern states except TN, do you think they have lost love for their native language....check out. They are more pationate than Tamils about their language.

On what basis do you say so? Telugu/Kannadigas who I know always say they admire Tamils for their love of their language. Tamil film/music/TV is bigger than the other three south Indian languages.

Siruthai I was a child of such father only. Please Change your focus Education is not something about learning Language it is about Understanding. A rural Child can understand better in its own language with school presently existing rural TN than in other Language in Navodlya. Please adovacte for increasing the quality of the Education.
Since My Daughter is studying here in UAE, Hindi is compulsory for them. Not Hurt others (Hindi Speaking People) there was no quality learning in Hindi.The learning that we had in our Primary schools Like Athichudi, Thirukural, Bharathiar Songs which are some extent guiding us still now. Do you want our children to be deprived of this Vazhivial Elakium.

My Daughter gets 98% in Tamil Exams which we have arranged privately and shows more inclination in learning but Hindi she gets less that 35% and gets fever during the Exam time.

I am not advocating this principle because of My daughter is suffering. I am just trying to put things in perspective. What Arul, Leo, are advocating is really good one.


My question is simple:

1. The purpose of JNVs is to impart education, not teach Hindi. Why not allow JNVs that don't teach Hindi?

2. A few months back, Air India gave salary slips in Hindi to employees in Chennai. Why? If such incidents repeat, anti-Hindi feelings may again grow and CG cannot blame anyone but itself if it does.

3. Doesn't the state government have the funds to fund 30 JNVs out of its own resources? How much does it cost? Say Rs 4-5 crore for fixed and 2 crore for running expenditure, can't TN govt do it itself on PPP basis?

Not only Hindi is important TN boys should learn spanish and Portugese also.
The reason is there are some good spanish speaking chicks all round US so it will be of great help for TN boys if they want to hang out with spanish girls. Just kidding learning many languages will only help a person but it will not do any harm to any person. Recent research says learning a new language at old age pushes onset of Alzemair disease.

Jokes aside...Valid point...Bye the bye any luck with chick hunting...:)

On what basis do you say so? Telugu/Kannadigas who I know always say they admire Tamils for their love of their language. Tamil film/music/TV is bigger than the other three south Indian languages.

Its not THIS or THAT. Whats the harm in learning another language. I dont know why but have too much marathi frnds here. they also love Tamil Films.

Particularly "Boys", "7g Rainbow Colony", Raguvarans Action are very much favourite for them. Just by watching and speaking with me they learned Tamil.
They can understand 80% tamil and speak 40 to 50%.
That does not mean they started disliking Marathi and liking Tamil. For me my language Tamil is easy, old and more good and for them Marathi is very divine and as a marathi they are very proud that their ancesters broke the spine of mugal onslaught and saved the rest of country from destruction.
In our group every one knows others language(Hindi, Marathi and Tamil)to some length.

Now, Coming back to the education, What is the harm if one or two subject is thought in Hindi as long as science and maths are thought in English?
After all Languages can either grow or die, cannot stand still..just see how much Tamil as a script and spoken form had changed in last 1000yrs...There will be always changes..New words will/should be added to any language to sruvive.

30 Jun 2011 , The NewIE

NEW DELHI: Amid questions over his continuance in the Union Council of Ministers, DMK leader Dayanidhi Maran on Thursday met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh here.


It was not clear as to what transpired during the meeting which came ahead of the expected reshuffle of the Union Council of Ministers.

Mr. Maran termed it as a routine meeting.

“It is nothing... I am a minister,” he underlined and contended that the meeting was related to official work.

Mr. Maran, the Textiles Minister, has recently come under scrutiny over his role in the 2G spectrum issue. He was the Telecom Minister in UPA government's first term when

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Keezha vizhunthalum, meesaila manna ottala case!! :lol:

Its not THIS or THAT. Whats the harm in learning another language. I dont know why but have too much marathi frnds here. they also love Tamil Films.

Now, Coming back to the education, What is the harm if one or two subject is thought in Hindi as long as science and maths are thought in English?
After all Languages can either grow or die, cannot stand still..just see how much Tamil as a script and spoken form had changed in last 1000yrs...There will be always changes..New words will/should be added to any language to sruvive.
You are missing the point. The two subjects can be taught in Tamil in TN, Kannada in KA and so on. Your agenda seems to be about imposing Hindi one way or another. With English as an incentive you are forcing people to learn Hindi. This is like a needle through a banana. Without anyone realizing Hindi would be the defacto common language at the expense of other regional languages.

I think the issue got diverted somewhere.

As part of our work for Edu & Training company, We have collected lots of research papers done in TN and other southern, western & Northern states with some from North East.

MOTHER TONGUE:

Predominantly whole of India wants to learn through Mother tongue at least till Primary stage. Edu Experts also profess the same.

Getting teachers for other languages is the practical problem - for eg: finding Kannada teachers for all schools is not easy in Chennai. Most of the Kannada parents who wants Kannada education have to put their wards in T Nagar Kannada Assn school. But the school does not rank among the top schools in Chennai. So they are forced to put their children in CBSE / other popular schools. They miss out Kannada completely.

My cousins in Chandigarh took Tamil as their 3rd language and there was no Tamil teacher in Chandigarh to set question papers or correct the examn papers. Believe it or Not! Chandigarh Admin arranged question papers from GoTN for only 3 people every year for 11 years. Papers were sent to Chennai for correction. But the parents were asked to pay all the expenses for getting the question papers & for correction.

My cousins' Tamil Marks were not taken into consideration for ranking and they were ranked based on their subject marks & Hindi & English marks. Simple pass in Tamil was enough.

Can't we develop something like that now ? Since the numbers have grown tremendously of late, even finding a Tamil teacher (non professional) may be easy. In ME, I was told many house wives teach languages in schools since Teachers are not available.

In CBSE schools, I find many people ignore mother tongue and take up Sanskrit or French as third language to score high marks. If Language marks are not considered for Ranking (unless it is Pure Language courses @ a higher grade / level), then taking ones mother tongue and Hindi may not pose such a problem.

I had big arguments with my wife (My son was too small to understand) on this issue. Teachers indirectly forced him to take up Sanskrit instead of Tamil from 6th. We teach him Tamil @ Home for my sake and I encourage him to read Vikatan, Kumudham etc to keep track.


HINDI:

Many of the states have accepted Hindi as third language after Mother Tongue & English.

It is possible that Hindi may be made as the third language and need not be made compulsory for ranking but a mere pass is enough.

Making Hindi Compulsory is BAD. Should not be done. But denying students to learn Hindi is also BAD.

In Cities, there are many schools who offer Hindi but in smaller towns, there is no opportunity. In my native place - many of my SSLC classmates joined military after school. They had to suffer a lot in the initial few years since Tamil does not have any commonality with Hindi. many of them still stay at lower levels in military hierarchy not because of their valour but because they are not able to communicate well to others.
Even pronunciation is very difficult as we do not have much phonetic variations for each vallinam & mellinam.

Even I suffer because I was denied the chance of learning Hindi in my schooling 11 +1 years.

Dravidian Party came to power on Anti Hindi plank but that is only for the masses. The leaders sons & grandsons are tutored Hindi in Private tutions. This is a pure Hypocritical act. (I personally know the Hindi teacher who teaches them at home)

Kannan,

I understand ur son situation. contrary to your son i was the one who intiated the debate. i was already with hindi as second language and was bent upon taking sanskrit as 3rd in 6th. My parents protested. to me it was easy to score marks,easy to learn becos of hindi base,less pressure. Also feared tamil teachers are strict.

parents protested it vociferously.

Also i feared my class would be shifted and would miss friends. finally parents took me to principal who convinced me that its is important to learn mother tongue,and they encourage it and assured that class wont be disturbed so i need not fear losing my friends. it was only after that i relented.

but learning tamil was easy for me.

But nowadays untill 10th cbse is graded and not actual marks. so language not a big issue.

In state board in 11th 12 in chennai majority opt for french just for total sake.

to put a stop to that barring first language, rest of language must not be made part of total and be only graded.

Namma Tamilnadu government Marave maradha? endha govt vandhalume Yen chennaiya suthiye Industries ellam irukanum nu nenakiranga? yen southern districts'a pathi yarume nenakka matengiranga?By the way i am not interested to start a debate but it is an agony.
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Because, TN Govt is just for name. Actually it should be Chennai(Madras) state
govt.
Govt thinking is people from "Rest of TN" should expect no more than road and water at the maximum.:bash:

Is there any good private tamil medium schools in TN?

You are missing the point. The two subjects can be taught in Tamil in TN, Kannada in KA and so on. Your agenda seems to be about imposing Hindi one way or another. With English as an incentive you are forcing people to learn Hindi. This is like a needle through a banana. Without anyone realizing Hindi would be the defacto common language at the expense of other regional languages.

While i support that Hindi as language should be thought in schools i would any day advocate only English as MOI. Here my point is TN Govt should have negotiated and arrived at a amicable solution and made sure those CG schools got established in rural places.
Negotiation is a golden tool which if properly used can open any door. Failing which there is no shame in accepting schools as it is as long as it serves the purpose of giving education to rural children s.
I don't believe in conspiracy theories like "needle through banana" .That type of conspiracy theories are more suitable for our western neighbor who
will see US/MOSSAD/RAW conspiracy even when cricket ball broken the window panes.

^^ ada pongappa Tamizho, EnglishO, HindiyO. edho oru language-la modhalla pulla kuttingala padikka vayyunga. J/K :cheers:

^^ ada pongappa Tamizho, EnglishO, HindiyO. edho oru language-la modhalla pulla kuttingala padikka vayyunga. J/K :cheers:

Kongu,I always enjoy your posts:banana:...Your posts are very funny:lol:

^^ ada pongappa Tamizho, EnglishO, HindiyO. edho oru language-la modhalla pulla kuttingala padikka vayyunga. J/K :cheers:

neenga sonna sariya thaan irkum...naan idhai aamodhikiren..:booze: