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N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 07:47 AM
tweet of rahul kanwal editor of headlines today

This wk Headlines Today will take u into Internally Displaced Tamil People's camps in N Sri Lanka. 1st intl channel to do so

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 08:55 AM
BJP state president Pon Radhakrishnan ferried in sea along with six other supporters and stayed in Indian waters for six hours without the knowledge of the Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police on Sunday.

The BJP called for a state-level sea picketing agitation in Rameswaram on Sunday to draw the government’s attention to bring traditional fishing rights for fishermen. Hence, the BJP cadre came to Rameswaram from different parts of the state. However, Pon Radhakrishnan and a few functionaries were missing from the beginning. Then, they appeared at the meet where some cadre carried him on their shoulders.

An uneasy calm prevailed when the cadre rushed towards jetty along with Pon Radhakrishnan after pushing down police barricades. However, they were prevented by police personnel before they reached the jetty. It is said, Pon Radhakrishnan had gone to sea in a country boat along with six functionaries at 5 am and stayed there till 11 am. Then, he alighted from the boat near the fishing jetty at 11.45 am.

Though, tight police security arrangements were made to prevent the entry of BJP leaders into sea at Rameswaram, the leaders got success in their agitation. The Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police could not trace the country boat which was floating in sea for six hours. Even, Kaliraj Maheskumar, SP, was not aware of their venture

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/midsea-picketing-by-bjp-leader/173876-60-118.html

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 10:03 AM
BJP state president Pon Radhakrishnan ferried in sea along with six other supporters and stayed in Indian waters for six hours without the knowledge of the Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police on Sunday.

The BJP called for a state-level sea picketing agitation in Rameswaram on Sunday to draw the government’s attention to bring traditional fishing rights for fishermen. Hence, the BJP cadre came to Rameswaram from different parts of the state. However, Pon Radhakrishnan and a few functionaries were missing from the beginning. Then, they appeared at the meet where some cadre carried him on their shoulders.

An uneasy calm prevailed when the cadre rushed towards jetty along with Pon Radhakrishnan after pushing down police barricades. However, they were prevented by police personnel before they reached the jetty. It is said, Pon Radhakrishnan had gone to sea in a country boat along with six functionaries at 5 am and stayed there till 11 am. Then, he alighted from the boat near the fishing jetty at 11.45 am.

Though, tight police security arrangements were made to prevent the entry of BJP leaders into sea at Rameswaram, the leaders got success in their agitation. The Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police could not trace the country boat which was floating in sea for six hours. Even, Kaliraj Maheskumar, SP, was not aware of their venture

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/midsea-picketing-by-bjp-leader/173876-60-118.html

Congress is never going to take up TN issues to national Level. Only hope is BJP. If BJP takes TN issue it will be a win-win situation for both TN and BJP..:banana:

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 10:07 AM
BJP state president Pon Radhakrishnan ferried in sea along with six other supporters and stayed in Indian waters for six hours without the knowledge of the Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police on Sunday.

The BJP called for a state-level sea picketing agitation in Rameswaram on Sunday to draw the government’s attention to bring traditional fishing rights for fishermen. Hence, the BJP cadre came to Rameswaram from different parts of the state. However, Pon Radhakrishnan and a few functionaries were missing from the beginning. Then, they appeared at the meet where some cadre carried him on their shoulders.

An uneasy calm prevailed when the cadre rushed towards jetty along with Pon Radhakrishnan after pushing down police barricades. However, they were prevented by police personnel before they reached the jetty. It is said, Pon Radhakrishnan had gone to sea in a country boat along with six functionaries at 5 am and stayed there till 11 am. Then, he alighted from the boat near the fishing jetty at 11.45 am.

Though, tight police security arrangements were made to prevent the entry of BJP leaders into sea at Rameswaram, the leaders got success in their agitation. The Indian Navy and Coastal Security Group police could not trace the country boat which was floating in sea for six hours. Even, Kaliraj Maheskumar, SP, was not aware of their venture

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/midsea-picketing-by-bjp-leader/173876-60-118.html

When i informed this news to one of my friend, who is a strong BJP supporter(me too).
his answer is simple "Well, Pon RadhaKrihsnan Ji is RSS functionary...That sounds it all"

rsubbu.mdu
August 8th, 2011, 10:14 AM
When i informed this news to one of my friend, who is a strong BJP supporter(me too).
his answer is simple "Well, Pon RadhaKrihsnan Ji is RSS functionary...That sounds it all"

Dhanapani had posted few pics of his weekend Rameswaram trip, i was bit curious to see so many BJP flags fluttering on the Pamban - Road bridge. Now i know...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rtM21NJ-oV4/Tj6mf2YYX_I/AAAAAAAACD8/1n1ZD_Aqdww/IMG_2728.jpg

rsubbu.mdu
August 8th, 2011, 10:19 AM
6Aug2011

KARIAPATTI:The practice of government distributing various items free of cost to the people, would make the beneficiaries lazy, former President A P J Abdul Kalam said during an interaction with college students here on Friday.


During an interaction programme with the president, Aiswarya of Devangar College asked the former President what was his opinion about the provision of freebies to the people by the government.

Abdul Kalam replied that freebies would only make people lazy. Everyone should work hard and with that earning purchase all that he or she needed. 'Only food bought with one's earnings would assimilate in his system', he said.

Abdul Kalam said that there were 75 crores of people living in six lakh villages in India. Only if the younger generation becomes literate, the country would progress.

Expressing the hope that India would emerge as a developed nation within nine years, he said that during the next 10 years, the nation's economic growth would reach ten percent. Individual income should also keep pace with this growth, he added.

College Secretary K S Savundaya presided and Principal Ravikumar welcomed the gathering.

Indian Sun
August 8th, 2011, 10:39 AM
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Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Search for platinum leaves TN hamlets in turmoil

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Search-for-platinum-leaves-TN-hamlets-in-turmoil/articleshow/9523434.cms

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 12:12 PM
what is devaprasnam? mai pottu pakaratha?

Looks in 6th room of the padmanabaswamy temple, it is written.. if this room is opened the world will be destroyed!

rsubbu.mdu
August 8th, 2011, 12:23 PM
what is devaprasnam? mai pottu pakaratha?



Its far ahead of Mai pottu Parkarathu ..... Devaprasnam is peformed to know the views of the presiding detity in a temple. Usually i have seen this being done before performing the Kumbaabhishekam of a temple to know what corrective actions need to be carried out in the temple and its practices ...

to know more ... (http://www.jyothishakalalayam.net/Deva_Prashna.aspx)

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Its far ahead of Mai pottu Parkarathu ..... Devaprasnam is peformed to know the views of the presiding detity in a temple. Usually i have seen this being done before performing the Kumbaabhishekam of a temple to know what corrective actions need to be carried out in the temple and its practices ...

to know more ... (http://www.jyothishakalalayam.net/Deva_Prashna.aspx)

thanks... heard of some people going to Kerala even to know their kula deivam... due to their fore fathers got disconnected from the clan chain.

wlbkng
August 8th, 2011, 12:37 PM
'Will abide by SC verdict on UES': Jaya

The Tamil Nadu Government will abide by the Supreme Court verdict on the Uniform Education System (UES), Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa told the State Assembly today.

Intervening Mr Gunasekaran (CPI) during the debate on the budget, Ms Jayalalithaa said the Supreme Court order on the UES was expected any moment and the government will abide by it.

''We are expecting the verdict from the Supreme Court. Once the Court pronounces its orders, the Government will abide by it,'' Ms Jayalalithaa said. Earlier, during the debate, Mr Gunasekaran referred to the UES and said confusion prevailed among the students and parents over the system of Education to be pursued by them after the State Government had deferred the UES and sought the Government's stand on it.

The CPI member also requested the government to implement the UES this year itself after removing the errors in the syllabus. The State Government had moved the Apex Court challenging the Madras High Court order upholding the UES and directing the government to implement it for all classes from the current academic year.

The High Court had also struck down as invalid, the amendments made to Sec 3 of the Tamil Nadu Uniform System of School Education Act, 2010, seeking to postpone the UES launched by the previous DMK Regime and directed the government to implement it for classes one to Ten.

The Government challenged in the Supreme Court which had reserved its orders after the arguments were completed.

http://news.chennaionline.com/chennai/-Will-abide-by-SC-verdict-on-UES---Jaya/f2c11639-381d-4373-9859-f7858961eaa2.col

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 12:40 PM
We may not be able to comprehend many things and they may even look silly to many.
But in Kerala, this method is widely followed from time immemorial. Even in TN, Kerala Astrologers are invited to do this (Srirangam , Triplicane etc).

Personally, our family had to use it once as we had no clue and the result was 100% correct. Even now, I am not able to believe it - how it could be so perfectly right.

rsubbu.mdu
August 8th, 2011, 12:45 PM
We may not be able to comprehend many things and they may even look silly to many.
But in Kerala, this method is widely followed from time immemorial. Even in TN, Kerala Astrologers are invited to do this (Srirangam , Triplicane etc).

Personally, our family had to use it once as we had no clue and the result was 100% correct. Even now, I am not able to believe it - how it could be so perfectly right.

+++1, i have the experience too (heard from my father) when they performed this process for my family deity temple. The local villagers who were present were stunned to hear the various acts of immorality, that had happened prior, came out in the Prasnam 100% perfect.

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Rajapakse asks Jayalalitha to mind her own business.'Jaya's stand is only for political gain. She doesn't know facts.' @9PM - tweet of rahul kanwal

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 01:06 PM
Rajapakse asks Jayalalitha to mind her own business.'Jaya's stand is only for political gain. She doesn't know facts.' @9PM - tweet of rahul kanwal

M or G Rajapakse?

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 01:11 PM
We may not be able to comprehend many things and they may even look silly to many.
But in Kerala, this method is widely followed from time immemorial. Even in TN, Kerala Astrologers are invited to do this (Srirangam , Triplicane etc).

Personally, our family had to use it once as we had no clue and the result was 100% correct. Even now, I am not able to believe it - how it could be so perfectly right.

Eppidi Kannan sir, neengaleva......ennala nambave mudilla. I some how feel they are using the unlimited freedom provided by our religion to trap unsuspecting persons.

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Where is KT. i have a special edition of Namitha for akila ulaga namitha rasikar mandra thalaivar. came across link in tweetar.


looks like momentum is being built for rahul gnadhi to ascend the throne as pm

A fake survey by one channel. Expecting moodisuttu vizha post election to punjab,uttrakhand,goa in may 2012 where BJP is expected to be reduced to some waste party.

Anniyan,

They are also being taken on a guided tour of camps. so i bet its M.

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Siruthai,

While that happens on one side, there other proper incidents too.

my relatives in karnataka were witness to a deva prashna held in their village before renovation started.

Prashna refused permission and asked to find first rama lakshmana sita buried in the village.

after 6 mnth search ,they did find it in one of the farms buried deeply. Proper permissions were taken and temple built. experts had placed the idols in vijayanagara period.

In many temples renovation not undertaken without devaprashna

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Rajapakse asks Jayalalitha to mind her own business.'Jaya's stand is only for political gain. She doesn't know facts.' @9PM - tweet of rahul kanwal

when thatha was cm, malaysia said mind your own business... now rasapakse says! can we expect a tandav speech from amaiyar?

but even if rasapakse asks singham and raja matha to mind your own business.. india will be silent...:bash:

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Eppidi Kannan sir, neengaleva......ennala nambave mudilla. I some how feel they are using the unlimited freedom provided by our religion to trap unsuspecting persons.

Actually I was a non believer in my school days. Mainly because of Family putting so much pressure and enforcing orthodox issues on me. I hated Sanskrit so much then. I took up Tamil with vengence :lol:

As I grew up, I could see things with more clarity. I also joined MA Astrology just for the fun of learning. But it was like a treasure trove. Every thing is Math and calculation and the philosophy has both FOR & AGAINST arguments.

Many astrologers, who are practising now a days may be misusing as you opined and so we believe that the science itself is a farce one. It is not.

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 01:32 PM
when thatha was cm, malaysia said mind your own business... now rasapakse says! can we expect a tandav speech from amaiyar?

but even if rasapakse asks singham and raja matha to mind your own business.. india will be silent...:bash:

yes, else China will enter SriLanka.

Vicvin86
August 8th, 2011, 01:33 PM
^^ As if they haven't.

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Anniyan,

They are also being taken on a guided tour of camps. so i bet its M.

Whats the point in covering a guided tour?

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 01:57 PM
^^ As if they haven't.

Last month, we received detailed quotes (without any enquiry going from us) for air compressors & pumps for Effluent / Sewage treatment plants from a Chinese company.

Their price was so impressive.

Their Clients List was so impressive.

But as a policy decision, we did not favour.

Aggressive Marketing & Pricing seem to be their hallmark.

They may economically smother India very soon. Already Power projects are all going to them.

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 02:15 PM
Rajapakse asks Jayalalitha to mind her own business.'Jaya's stand is only for political gain. She doesn't know facts.' @9PM - tweet of rahul kanwal

kumar, any link for news? i guess it may be strategy of congress to bash amaiyar thro sl leaders! read news that congie is not happy on tn gvt approach on eelam and also their resolution in tnla over economic ban and kachateevu... also last week amaiyar bashed cg, congie and pm on price rise, riots bill etc., so it should be the shameless party goes to this level!

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 02:21 PM
Last month, we received detailed quotes (without any enquiry going from us) for air compressors & pumps for Effluent / Sewage treatment plants from a Chinese company.

Their price was so impressive.

Their Clients List was so impressive.

But as a policy decision, we did not favour.

Aggressive Marketing & Pricing seem to be their hallmark.

They may economically smother India very soon. Already Power projects are all going to them.

not only power projects, they have entered into many industry! Industries are going to policy of use and throw! since they get two-three chinese products(equipments) for the same cost what can be supplied from europe. And india does not have potential to manufacture many of these products inspite of having of engineering offices in india... they are mere out sourcing offices like IT companies! this is true right from automobile/transporation engineering to many processing plant engineering!

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 02:28 PM
kumar, any link for news? i guess it may be strategy of congress to bash amaiyar thro sl leaders! read news that congie is not happy on tn gvt approach on eelam and also their resolution in tnla over economic ban and kachateevu... also last week amaiyar bashed cg, congie and pm on price rise, riots bill etc., so it should be the shameless party goes to this level!

I am sure CG must be pissed off with Jaya's secret order to Police to not let SL pilgrims stay in Chennai.

Trichy_Arun
August 8th, 2011, 02:30 PM
not only power projects, they have entered into many industry! Industries are going to policy of use and throw! since they get two-three chinese products(equipments) for the same cost what can be supplied from europe. And india does not have potential to manufacture many of these products inspite of having of engineering offices in india... they are mere out sourcing offices like IT companies! this is true right from automobile/transporation engineering to many processing plant engineering!

China is the manufacturing power house of the world, we India are long long back as compared to china in manufacturing. Our govt need to prevent entry of the chinese companies to some extent otherwise India will become like US where most of the items are imported from China.

Atleast we the local people should prefer to buy local products rather than attractive foreign products.

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Last month, we received detailed quotes (without any enquiry going from us) for air compressors & pumps for Effluent / Sewage treatment plants from a Chinese company.

Their price was so impressive.

Their Clients List was so impressive.

But as a policy decision, we did not favour.

Aggressive Marketing & Pricing seem to be their hallmark.

They may economically smother India very soon. Already Power projects are all going to them.

Good Thing u had done Kannan Sir, But many of my frnd are doing business by importing items from China.
Last vacation iam surprized to see how they tagged the prizes in items like Satin, Collar Labels, Toys etc.
Literally speaking me and 3 or 4 friends are sitting, Every item are taken one after one and prized with no basics(some times prizes are aggreed based on lucky numbers!) .
Even then ther aggree they are getting almost 400% profit.
China is just mass producing all consumer and industrial items in huge quantity , with its inherent cheap labour products are coming dead cheap.

In a free trade world, China has the muzzle power to kill local industries.
US and other Western countries have Knowledge based Innovative industry to survive.

I am not an expert in any thing but just a small time pety programmer, I feel we should do a hybrid of Western and Chinese Ideas.

Every Industry should form one big association amonth themselves and collectively sponcer innovative research process. As it is an amalgamation of many industries fund will not be a problem. Resulting innovative solutions should be shared by the members.

Wil it work?

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM
China is the manufacturing power house of the world, we India are long long back as compared to china in manufacturing. Our govt need to prevent entry of the chinese companies to some extent otherwise India will become like US where most of the items are imported from China.

Atleast we the local people should prefer to buy local products rather than attractive foreign products.

We cannot prevent, at the best we can increase duty showing anti-dumping rules. But that is not solution. we should really develope infrastructure,
power and innovative cheap solutions in many industries and develop knowledge based industries at the same time.

There are many Quality Japanese (now a days Chinese also) fabric machines are coming, But Japan does not even have its own Garments industry. We are lucky that we have big garment industries in Mumbai, Gujrat, Banglore and TN.
So, our Machinery industry(particularly in chennai and coimbatore) should put lot of money in research and increase the reputation as destination for trusted Source of Machineries.

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 03:05 PM
@ China:

Though I could take a decision on those equipments - not to buy, I liked a table I saw, which was imported from China and I bought that. It is really good. (Not for the price but for the Design & looks)

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Kannan sir,

there is talk of china giving big loans to india instead and get contract for their own companies on such projects and finally tie us up.

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Kannan sir,

there is talk of china giving big loans to india instead and get contract for their own companies on such projects and finally tie us up.

That is the normal practice in the world.

When somebody offer us grant or low price or low interest loans, generally, it is tied to the supplies from their country or contracts to their country's companies.

Japan will supply the electric engines for the Metro Rail or so. Britain or US supply war equipments / crafts in similar terms.

Even India does that with African & South Asian countries.

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 03:21 PM
yes kannan, thats normal practice. japan agreed to fund dedicated corridor only after we accepted it with electrification for japanese locos.

issue though is with world over most countries toed financially, india may have to finally accept chinese loans. we have so far avoided it.

7 yrs of dandam with this govt and the dandam in 1980-90 will ensure we never reach the full potential. how long tamasha is going to go no one knows.

i am pessimistic even abt nxt gen elxns/.

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 03:28 PM
@ China:

Though I could take a decision on those equipments - not to buy, I liked a table I saw, which was imported from China and I bought that. It is really good. (Not for the price but for the Design & looks)

Chinese has no regards to Copyrights and Original Equipment Manufacture Clauses. they are just copying the Western and Russian technology(reverse engr) and mass producing with cheap Labour.

In defense they are very notorious for reverse eng..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575646472655698844.html

EU and US has lot of restictions on exporting technology to China, still they manage to steal and reverse engr, But with this much engrs why India is falling behind in atleast reverse engr..

kannan infratech
August 8th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Chinese has no regards to Copyrights and Original Equipment Manufacture Clauses. they are just copying the Western and Russian technology(reverse engr) and mass producing with cheap Labour.

In defense they are very notorious for reverse eng..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575646472655698844.html

EU and US has lot of restictions on exporting technology to China, still they manage to steal and reverse engr, But with this much engrs why India is falling behind in atleast reverse engr..

Don't you know what happened in Ludhiana and Coimbatore regions ?

What do DAE & DOS do ?

It is going on in India also. But we consume locally, whereas China took it to export levels in a big way.

rsubbu.mdu
August 8th, 2011, 03:47 PM
பேருந்து ஜன்னல் வழி தாவி ஏறும் பெண் -தமிழகத்தின் பரிதாப நிலை

http://www.ethirinews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/B5-150x150.jpg

http://www.ethirinews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/B3-150x150.jpg

http://www.ethirinews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/B4-225x300.jpg

Source (http://www.ethirinews.com/?p=13233)

The bus in photo is a Valapari - Hi-Forest service!! It seems Dhandapani sir has given good training to his area people :)

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Chinese has no regards to Copyrights and Original Equipment Manufacture Clauses. they are just copying the Western and Russian technology(reverse engr) and mass producing with cheap Labour.

EU and US has lot of restictions on exporting technology to China, still they manage to steal and reverse engr, But with this much engrs why India is falling behind in atleast reverse engr..

in china, the graduated engineers get into reseach i.e reverse engineering technology or they occupy some top post soon in their industry. 2nd grade workers in industry i.e (shift engineer, supervisor position in India) are handled by skilled people coming out of experince and not from engineering col.

in India, the graduated engineers get into outsourcing job be it IT or other core engineering offices... the 2nd grade level in industry is looked after by engineers.

In gvt offices at India we can see only old people above 40 yelling at us always! In China, gvt job is still a pride and we could see more than 70% would be very young!

Arul Murugan
August 8th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Equations! - from mail

Equation 1

Human = eat + sleep + work + enjoy
Donkey = eat + sleep

Therefore:
Human = Donkey + Work + enjoy

Therefore:
Human-enjoy = Donkey + Work

In other words,
A Human that doesn't know how to enjoy = Donkey that works.

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ ++ ++

Equation 2

Man = eat + sleep + earn money
Donkey = eat + sleep

Therefore:
Man = Donkey + earn money

Therefore:
Man-earn money = Donkey

In other words
Man who doesn't earn money = Donkey

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +

Equation 3

Woman= eat + sleep + spend
Donkey = eat + sleep

Therefore:
Woman = Donkey + spend
Woman - spend = Donkey

In other words,
Woman who doesn't spend = Donkey

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +

To Conclude:
From Equation 2 and Equation 3

Man who doesn't earn money = Woman who doesn't spend

So Man earns money not to let woman become a donkey!
And a woman spends not to let the man become a donkey!

So, We have:
Man + Woman = Donkey + earn money + Donkey + Spend money

Therefore from postulates 1 and 2, we can conclude

Man + Woman = 2 Donkeys that live happily together

siruthai
August 8th, 2011, 04:23 PM
in china, the graduated engineers get into reseach i.e reverse engineering technology or they occupy some top post soon in their industry. 2nd grade workers in industry i.e (shift engineer, supervisor position in India) are handled by skilled people coming out of experince and not from engineering col.

in India, the graduated engineers get into outsourcing job be it IT or other core engineering offices... the 2nd grade level in industry is looked after by engineers.

In gvt offices at India we can see only old people above 40 yelling at us always! In China, gvt job is still a pride and we could see more than 70% would be very young!

So a recession, that slows down the IT industry will be a blessing in disguess for other fields as many bright young minds might get into other industries and do real research and development?

sarathy
August 8th, 2011, 05:15 PM
Sharukh Khan to open new five-star hotel in Kollam

Why this soft-corner for sharukh khan towards kerala?

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article2322581.ece

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Sharukh Khan to open new five-star hotel in Kollam

Why this soft-corner for sharukh khan towards kerala?

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article2322581.ece

Your question doesnt make sense.

Indian Sun
August 8th, 2011, 05:49 PM
Sharukh Khan to open new five-star hotel in Kollam

Why this soft-corner for sharukh khan towards kerala?

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/marketing/article2322581.ece

Ippo enna ? You want him to open in K-K-K-Kandanchavadi ?

wlbkng
August 8th, 2011, 05:54 PM
From when, Kollam (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=kollam&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x3b05fc5bdda9c621:0x8bf03195267372f7,Kollam,+Kerala,+India&gl=uk&ei=pwZATqD9B5SZhQe7_oSNAg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=3&ved=0CD4Q8gEwAg) is a part of Tamil Nadu?

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Ippo enna ? You want him to open in K-K-K-Kandanchavadi ?

If you give money he will open even in Kulanchavadi, no need for any soft corner to do that.

sarathy
August 8th, 2011, 06:01 PM
I mean to say, leaving Tier-II cities, he is starting there. Is kollam developing that much to have a 5 star hotel. I believe, even most of the Tier-II cities in TN & KL doesn't have 5-star hotels. Just a curiosity. Anyone from that area?

Anniyan
August 8th, 2011, 06:19 PM
I mean to say, leaving Tier-II cities, he is starting there. Is kollam developing that much to have a 5 star hotel. I believe, even most of the Tier-II cities in TN & KL doesn't have 5-star hotels. Just a curiosity. Anyone from that area?

SKhan is not the developer, he has been invited just to cut the ribbon like how our Sneha and Namitha are invited to open a Saree shop.

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2011, 06:24 PM
SKhan is not the developer, he has been invited just to cut the ribbon like how our Sneha and Namitha are invited to open a Saree shop.

eppo? enga? is that the news that nkumar have for me? :)

josephantony
August 8th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Oru chinna payyan sikkittaan nu ethana peru verithanama pottu thakureenga..

Pavam andha payyana comedy piece ah use panreenga.. idhu theriyama andha pullayum kettu kettu mokkai vangudhu.. :lol:

haiyo haiyo.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuPBKqZbDMABuuyt--EhNBSCTw_KIUSo_z823cfIdkeDsHA4PJTg

Mudiyala....

ceeznic pirate
August 8th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Is kollam developing that much to have a 5 star hotel.

nope. Its a small city. Dont have any large scale industries or companies. An IT park was planned 2 years before(Technopark phase III). Not sure what its status now.

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2011, 06:29 PM
nope. Its a small city. Dont have any large scale industries or companies. An IT park was planned 2 years before(Technopark phase III). Not sure what its status now.

vara vara naatula indha IT park tholla thanga mudiyalai :) In my front yard at my home in CBE, we have approx 10 X 12 space with lawn and few chedis and solar lamps that gives a park-like-impression. How to convert that to IT park? Ideas and suggestions welcome and yeah I want to put it on OPS's road show to develop my Tier - III house :)

josephantony
August 8th, 2011, 06:30 PM
To Conclude:
From Equation 2 and Equation 3

Man who doesn't earn money = Woman who doesn't spend

So Man earns money not to let woman become a donkey!
And a woman spends not to let the man become a donkey!

So, We have:
Man + Woman = Donkey + earn money + Donkey + Spend money

Therefore from postulates 1 and 2, we can conclude

Man + Woman = 2 Donkeys that live happily together

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Can't stop laughing.....Great one! :okay:

sarathy
August 8th, 2011, 06:33 PM
vara vara naatula indha IT park tholla thanga mudiyalai :) In my front yard at my home in CBE, we have approx 10 X 12 space with lawn and few chedis and solar lamps that gives a park-like-impression. How to convert that to IT park? Ideas and suggestions welcome and yeah I want to put it on OPS's road show to develop my Tier - III house :)
^^
Please dont give it to our govt. Then your house will also become mandabam. Hope you understood.:lol:

sarathy
August 8th, 2011, 06:38 PM
nope. Its a small city. Dont have any large scale industries or companies. An IT park was planned 2 years before(Technopark phase III). Not sure what its status now.


True. There is a link in youtube about Technopark Phase II or III. If any investor could see that will prefer that closing the eyes [If location is not a constraint]. See how TN govt. is marketing? pity!!! Lets see how this road-show scheme picks up for marketing IT parks in Tier II.

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Please dont give it to our govt. Then your house will also become mandabam. Hope you understood.:lol:

My park (which I want to convert to IT Park) already have Tier II infrastructure in place like no power for 8-10 hours per day, water supply once or twice a week, sakkadai on road that overflows at times providing a stream front view etc., And yeah we are in most urbanized state of planet earth.

I just want to add a word IT to my park to hop in on OPS road show. Pleaje help me :)

josephantony
August 8th, 2011, 06:43 PM
vara vara naatula indha IT park tholla thanga mudiyalai :) In my front yard at my home in CBE, we have approx 10 X 12 space with lawn and few chedis and solar lamps that gives a park-like-impression. How to convert that to IT park? Ideas and suggestions welcome and yeah I want to put it on OPS's road show to develop my Tier - III house :)

:?

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Arul,

You had in tn projects thread asked how they r planning these roads show, how going to attract.

The secret is out in thsi thread. They have planned to contact Akila ulaga namitha "YOUTH' rasigargal manra thalaivar KT, to get namitha for road shows and attract to tier 2 companies

In turn KT house will be promoted as IT park. KT will say he has invested in tier 2 city coimbatore

Btwn now on the link i came across in twitter. Its from cheap andhra website.


Namitha andru Indru

http://www.greatandhra.com/newphotos/namitha_now_previous1312789069.jpg


Pattimanram thodangattum

PS: such images have been posted earlier, hence no offence meant.

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2011, 09:16 PM
^^ hmm everyone wants to post Nami's picture and get a killu killupu. adhukku yenpa Nami fan club president peru solli post pannureenga?

That's okay. naalu perukku nallathu nadantha edhuvum thappu illa :lol:

wlbkng
August 8th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Faced with the grim prospect of the state’s outstanding debt touching over Rs 1.18 lakh crore by the end of 2011-12, Tamil Nadu government on Monday indicated there was nothing to worry as it would be lesser than 13th Finance Commission norms.

“The debt situation would be only 20.39 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product (GSDP).” Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa told the Tamil Nadu Assembly.

Intervening during a discussion on the budget, presented last week by Finance Minister O. Panneerselvam, Ms. Jayalalithaa insisted that this was lesser than the 24.50 benchmark set by the 13th Finance Commission.

Presenting the Budget, Mr. Panneerselvam had also made a similar argument, saying the debt ratio to GSDP was lesser than Finance Commission norms.

The AIADMK government, which assumed power in May, had started with an opening debt of Rs 1,01,349 crore which is projected to touch Rs 1,18,610 crore by the end of 2011-12.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2337073.ece

-

kongutamizhan
August 8th, 2011, 10:13 PM
^^ Don't know how much of transperency we have in such reports. Whatever, if I were heading a state or country I wouldn't be sounding so confident right now. That doesn't mean that I am against government spending. I am okay with it as long as it introduces jobs and creates hard and soft infrastructure. With US credit rating gone a notch down everyone will feel the ripples in near term.

Also things doesn't look rosy for India on our core strength for now (IT)

IT Article 1 (http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/it-hiring-may-fall-25-on-us-ratings-downgrade-167051?pfrom=home-Business)

IT Article 2 (http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/us-downgrade-indian-it-industry-keeping-their-fingers-crossed-167094?pfrom=home-Business)

Plus S & P says (http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/another-slowdown-might-hit-india-others-harder-s-p-167037?ch=jkrghl&pfrom=home-Business)fiscal capabilities of countries including India shrunk to pre-2008 levels.

What government can do now is increase government spending in IT / automation instead of oc's. (I know it's gone case in TN, atleast other states in India can). Not only this spending will help to negate the loss (or increase profits if this panic is without basis), it will also increase the much needed efficiency and transperency.

It's high time that the IT companies also tap into the local market instead of just being dependent on US. There is lot that needs to be done in-house.

Probably one thing out of this global drama is inflation might come down.

N.kumar
August 8th, 2011, 10:47 PM
remember anbazhagan giving same reason to jaya criticism.

Arul Murugan
August 9th, 2011, 03:31 AM
:eek:

what is the amount of freebies declared in the budget?

8900crores approx including all usual subsidies followed in other states.

break up

1. free cow - 56crores
2. free goat - 135crores
3. free fan, mixer, grinder - 1250crores
4. free laptop for students - 912crores
5. free gold for mangal sutra - 514crores
6. food subsidy - 4500crores
7. free dhoties, sarees, napkins for girls, uniform, shoes for students - 310crores approx
8. free bus pass subsidy for students - 304crores
9. free cycles for students - 43crores+112crores
10. free scholarship for students -90crores

comes around 8200crores approx... interest free subsidy loan, subsidy for agriculture, subsidy for 60,000 solar green house etc., will sum it up to 8900crores.

Arul Murugan
August 9th, 2011, 07:17 AM
game ends!

Samacheer kalvi in 10days - SC order

10 நாட்களில் சமச்சீர் கல்வி : சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்

புதுடில்லி : 10 நாட்களில் சமச்சீர் கல்வியை அமல்படுத்த வேண்டும் என சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் இன்று தீர்ப்பு வழங்கி உள்ளது. சமச்சீர் கல்வி தொடர்பாக தமிழக அரசு செய்திருந்த மேல்முறையீடு மனுவை சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் தள்ளுபடி செய்துள்ளது. இவ்வழக்கில் ஐகோர்ட் அளித்த தீர்ப்பில் சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் தலையிடாது எனவும் நீதிபதிகள் தெரிவித்துள்ளனர்.


Dinamalar!!

Arul Murugan
August 9th, 2011, 07:23 AM
I mean to say, leaving Tier-II cities, he is starting there. Is kollam developing that much to have a 5 star hotel. I believe, even most of the Tier-II cities in TN & KL doesn't have 5-star hotels. Just a curiosity. Anyone from that area?

Hope you know the tourism potential of Kollam... In TN, most of tourist places are well connected on road and the foreigners will make one day visit with hub stay at Madurai, Trichy, Chennai etc.,

ceeznic pirate
August 9th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Jaya calls for new microphones so that ''men can talk like men'' :lol:

Chennai, Aug 9 (PTI) Tamil Nadu Assembly today witnessed some light moments when Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa told the Speaker that the microphones attached on members'' desk were non-adjustable and said he should ensure they are replaced so that "men could talk like men". Intervening during the question hour when Electricity Minister R Viswanathan was making a reply, Jayalalithaa told the Speaker D Jayakumar that the mnicrophones were not adjustable. "It is ok for for others. But the Electricity Minister is a tall man and he has to bend over to talk on the microphone. So is the case with some others too. Men should talk like men," (standing tall) she said to peels of laughter and loud thumping of benches by the AIADMK members. A smiling Jayakumar said he will look into the matter and take action.

IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/jaya-calls-for-new-microphones-so-that-men-can-talk-like-men/781506.html)

:doh:

Arul Murugan
August 9th, 2011, 10:45 AM
nkumar,

doubt in your pic! I hope KT can explain better!!

yellow pic is indru and orange pic is andru.... am i right?

Anniyan
August 9th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Tamil Nadu government charges the Centre with not responding to its demand for special assistance of Rs one lakh crore.

- headlines today

mentor008
August 9th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Supreme Court gives big "Aaappu" to JJ. It bleeds like hell......

Anniyan
August 9th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Should the Rajapakse brothers be tried for war crimes?
Yes
No
Can't say

http://headlinestoday.intoday.in/site/headlines_today/

Anniyan
August 9th, 2011, 11:46 AM
New Delhi-based news channel, Headlines Today, which has brought wide media focus in India on Sri Lankan war crimes after broadcasting the Channel 4 documentary, Sri Lanka's Killing Fields, followed with a debate recently, on Monday said it was to broadcast an exclusive documentary of its own on Tuesday, titled "I witnessed Genocide: Inside Lanka's Killing Fields" . The new documentary to be aired on Tuesday will feature eyewitness accounts of shelling and aerial bombardment of designated safe zones, hospitals and other civilian targets, rape, sexual harassment at IDP camps, use of chemical bombs, use of cluster munition, denial of food and medicines to civilians etc., according to media sources in New Delhi

Arul Murugan
August 9th, 2011, 11:54 AM
Tamil Nadu government charges the Centre with not responding to its demand for special assistance of Rs one lakh crore.

- headlines today

Centre not responding to TN demand for spl assistance: Jaya

PTI | 02:08 PM,Aug 09,2011

Chennai, Aug 9 (PTI) Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalitha today charged the Centre with not responding to the state government's demand for special assistance of Rs one lakh crore. Intervening during a discussion on the budget in the Assembly, she said that despite repeated attempts, the Centre had not responded so far on Tamil Nadu's demand. "There has been no reply to our demands," Jayalalitha said. Jayalalitha had made a plea to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during her visit to New Delhi in June seeking special package for the state. The list of her demands included assistance for implementation of the Mono Rail Project in Chennai costing Rs 16,650 crore and an amount of Rs 10,200 crore over the next five years to provide laptops to students studying in government and government aided schools. She had also sought special package for modernising fishing sector and early completion of Koodangulam Atomic Power Station and Neyveli Thermal Station II.

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/centre-not-responding-to-tn-demand-for-spl-assistance-jaya/781592.html

N.kumar
August 9th, 2011, 12:09 PM
centre gave special package to west bengal. that state is just not productive and rots and states like, ap,guj,tn,maha has to fund states like bengal and delhi while we dont get a good proportion of our money.

10000cr more.

deepu051993
August 9th, 2011, 02:23 PM
game ends!

Samacheer kalvi in 10days - SC order

10 நாட்களில் சமச்சீர் கல்வி : சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்

புதுடில்லி : 10 நாட்களில் சமச்சீர் கல்வியை அமல்படுத்த வேண்டும் என சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் இன்று தீர்ப்பு வழங்கி உள்ளது. சமச்சீர் கல்வி தொடர்பாக தமிழக அரசு செய்திருந்த மேல்முறையீடு மனுவை சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் தள்ளுபடி செய்துள்ளது. இவ்வழக்கில் ஐகோர்ட் அளித்த தீர்ப்பில் சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் தலையிடாது எனவும் நீதிபதிகள் தெரிவித்துள்ளனர்.


Dinamalar!!

In a setback to the Jayalalithaa government in Tamil Nadu, the Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected its plea for scrapping the uniform education system brought in by the earlier DMK government and directed its immediate implementation.

A three-judge bench of Justices J.M. Panchal, Deepak Verma and B.S. Chauhan dismissed the state’s plea that the Uniform System of School Education (Amendment) Act brought into force by the DMK government was sub-standard, lacked quality and was politically motivated.

The apex court also ordered that the act be implemented within 10 days.

Immediately after assuming power, the Jayalalithaa government had moved an amendment to the act on the ground that it was sub-standard and the syllabus prescribed was essentially done to promote the political interest of the then DMK government.

The Madras High Court’s order had struck down the amendment moved by the Jayalalithaa government.

The Tamil Nadu government had defended its decision to defer the implementation of the Act on the ground that it suffered from serious deficiencies.

Senior counsel P.P. Rao, appearing for the state, had said that the curriculum introduced by the previous DMK government “lacked quality, standard and did not conform to the parameters fixed by the NCERT.”

The counsel had said that former Vice-Chancellor of Bhartidasan University Prof Muthukarupan, on whose recommendations the Act was formulated, had complained that the syllabus lacked quality and did not fulfil the suggestion and guidelines prescribed by him.

The state had challenged the high court’s order on the ground that it was “illegal and erroneous.”

The high court had also directed the state government to distribute the textbooks printed under the Uniform System of Education to enable teachers commence classes and to complete the exercise by July 22.

Tamil Nadu has over 1.2 crore students in four streams of school education -- 45,000 state board schools, 11,000 matriculation schools, 25 oriental schools and 50 Anglo-Indian schools, all with separate syllabus, textbooks and schemes of examinations.

‘Samacheer Kalvi’ scheme, aimed at bringing about uniform education, was shelved by Ms. Jayalalithaa in one of her first acts after returning to power.

sarathy
August 9th, 2011, 02:58 PM
ஈரோடு: "விக்கிலீக்ஸ்' இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுக்கப்பட்டதாகக் கூறி, தி.மு.க., - காங்கிரசார் பெயர்கள் அடங்கிய, சுவிஸ் வங்கியில் பணம் முதலீடு செய்தோர் பட்டியல் நகல் வினியோகிக்கப்படுகிறது. சுவிஸ் வங்கியில் முதலீடு செய்துள்ளோர் பட்டியலை வெளியிட வேண்டுமென, இந்தியா உட்பட பல்வேறு நாடுகளில் உள்ளோர் குரல் எழுப்பி வருகின்றனர். அப்பட்டியலை, "விக்கிலீக்ஸ்' இணையதளம் சிறிது சிறிதாக அவ்வப்போது வெளியிட்டு, அமளியை ஏற்படுத்தி வருகிறது. "இப்பட்டியல் சரியானது' என, சுவிஸ் வங்கியும், "இப்பட்டியல் தவறானது' என, சம்பந்தப்பட்டோரும் கூறி வருகின்றனர். ஆனாலும், இந்த இணைய தளத்தில் வெளியான பட்டியல் ஒரு சிலரைக் கூட சென்றடையாமல், இணைய தளம் தடை செய்யப்பட்டது. இந்த இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து பதிவிறக்கம் செய்யப்பட்டதாகக் கூறி, தி.மு.க., - காங்., பிரமுகர்கள், அமைச்சர்கள், வி.ஐ.பி.,க்கள் பெயர், அவர்கள் முதலீடு செய்துள்ள தொகை ஆகிய விவரங்கள் அடங்கிய நகல்கள், ஈரோடு மக்களிடம் நேற்று வினியோகிக்கப்பட்டது. அதில், நிரா ராடியா, முன்னாள் பிரதமர் ராஜிவ், நரேஷ்கோயல், கருணாநிதி, ஸ்டாலின், ஆ.ராஜா , எஸ்.எஸ்.பழனிமாணிக்கம், லாலு, உட்பட பலரது பெயர்கள் இடம்பெற்றுள்ளன. இந்த நகல் உண்மையானதா என்பதை விட, இந்த நகல்கள் அதிக அளவில் ஜெராக்ஸ் எடுத்து மக்களுக்கு வினியோகிக்கப்படுவதால், தி.மு.க., - காங்., பிரமுகர்கள் அதிர்ச்சியடைந்துள்ளனர்.

A list so said to be downloaded from wiki-leaks contains the Congress and DMK Top-guns name who holds their accounts in swiz bank and their account details were taken print-outs and distributed in Erode to public. DMK and Congress leaders were shocked!

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=291071

kongutamizhan
August 9th, 2011, 03:36 PM
centre gave special package to west bengal. that state is just not productive and rots and states like, ap,guj,tn,maha has to fund states like bengal and delhi while we dont get a good proportion of our money.

10000cr more.

Don't worry. Plan is to make Delhi and WB as model city and state of the world. Let's showcase them, get more money and spread the wealth to other states from there. We want all states in India to grow including the state of Chennai. Just be patient and it will happen.

The above is what MMS told aatha as per the grapevine news from my-dubakkoor.com :cheers:

N.kumar
August 9th, 2011, 03:56 PM
minor clarification

mean 10000cr more was for bengal.

yes as promised already kolkat/wb has become london. i london now = kolkata

Anniyan
August 9th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Looting in London must be a reminder for TN police to chalk out plans to prevent a similar situation in TN when the old one drops his head.

kannan infratech
August 9th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Thanks N.Kumar.

Ungalukku Thonriya Yosanai Ennaku varavillai.

Ore oru photo post panni, KT Sir a cool panni off pannitengale.

KT

Before Namitha photo :horse: :madwife:

After Namitha photo : :D

Vicvin86
August 9th, 2011, 05:50 PM
Looting in London must be a reminder for TN police to chalk out plans to prevent a similar situation in TN when the old one drops his head.

Less police numbers make London situation worse. Remember one interview by ADGP Radakrishnan. In that he mentioned how police officers in Europe surprised to hear number of policemen deployed after CBE bombings.

vs007
August 9th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Centre not responding to TN demand for spl assistance: Jaya

Chennai, Aug 9 (PTI) Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalitha today charged the Centre with not responding to the state government's demand for special assistance of Rs one lakh crore. Intervening during a discussion on the budget in the Assembly, she said that despite repeated attempts, the Centre had not responded so far on Tamil Nadu's demand.
She goes swinging to Delhi attacking Chidambaram and doing BJP's bidding and she expects the centre govt to bail her out? Only a 5 year old would have such expectations.

kongutamizhan
August 9th, 2011, 08:32 PM
^^ sari sari vidungappa arasiyilla idhellam sagajam.

stalin seoul poyi woo senja korea companies ellam chennaikku move senjiruvanga-nu silla perukku expectation illaya? andha madiri than :lol:

BTW oru doubt: If someone denies chocolates to a kid, kid can complain to mommy. andha mummy-kae chocolate kidaikalaenna?

N.kumar
August 9th, 2011, 10:03 PM
was pleasantly surprised. heard recently that varun gandhi recently visited ramnad dist and even spoke in a meeting from my sources. also heard sushma visited thrice to tn after elxns. somehow media didnt sense it up.

now i noticed he has asked a qn on tamil nadu


Shri FEROZE VARUN GANDHI

Will the Minister of

HOUSING AND URBAN POVERTY ALLEVIATION

be pleased to state:-


(a) Whether Tamil Nadu has the highest number of urban homeless in India;

(b) If so, the details thereof;

(c) Whether there are any Government run shelters for the homeless in the cities;

(d) If so, the details thereof; and

(e) If not, the reasons therefor ?

ANSWER

THE MINISTER OF HOUSING & URBAN POVERTY ALLEVIATION (KUMARI SELJA)

(a): As per the Census 2001 data available the State of Tamil Nadu does not have the highest number of urban homeless in India . It has 57,128 urban houseless population.

(b): The details as per Census 2001 are annexed. (see link down)

(c) to (e): Ministry of Housing & Urban Poverty Alleviation does not maintain data of night shelters in various states and cities.

‘Housing’ and ‘colonization’ being State subjects, the primary responsibility of providing shelter lies with the State Governments. Central government however, provides financial assistance to States through various schemes. It is currently supporting states to provide shelter, tenure security and basic amenities to slum dwellers, under Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM), create affordable housing stock through the ‘Affordable Housing in Partnership’ Scheme and reduce cost of home loans with 5% interest subsidy under Interest Subsidy Scheme for Housing the Urban Poor (ISHUP) Scheme.

Earlier, from 1988-89, the Ministry provided financial support to states to create shelter for the houseless under the scheme for ‘Night Shelter for Urban Shelterless’. Cumulatively, under the erstwhile scheme of Night Shelter for the Urban Footpath Dwellers, 97 schemes seeking inter alia 17341 beds, 15603 toilet seats, 2015 baths and 2102 urinals were sanctioned covering 15 States/Union Territories. The scheme was transferred to the state sector in 2005-06, and financial assistance from the Center was discontinued.

annexure link

http://164.100.47.132/Annexture/lsq15/8/au339.htm

Anniyan
August 9th, 2011, 11:24 PM
Inside Sri Lanka's killing field

http://headlinestoday.intoday.in/site/headlines_today/programme/sri-lanka-army-war-against-civilians-ltte/1/147526.html

Arul Murugan
August 10th, 2011, 02:26 AM
thank god! thatha haven't printed his pic with manja thundu in front page for samaseer kalvi books

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/1082011/FE_1008_MN_01_Cni02.jpg

dailythanthi

satishanu
August 10th, 2011, 02:35 AM
A leading Indian American entrepreneur, Rajan Natarajan has been named deputy secretary of state for policy and external affairs in Maryland state.

Natarajan, 51, was appointed to this highest administrative office held by any Indian American to date in the state by Democratic Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley.

Natarajan's responsibilities include representing the governor or secretary of state at designated public and community outreach events, advising the secretary on external affairs, planning and strategies, fostering and promoting international diplomatic relationships.

Rajan brings a wealth of corporate business and industry experience to my administration," said O'Malley, noting "he has spent much of his professional life in the corporate world, helping companies grow."

Natarajan also "has significant experience in the technology sector and is used to thinking out-of-the box to deliver innovative solutions, commercialisation of technologies and business development," he said.

Born in Pudukkottai district, Tamil Nadu, Natarajan came to the US in 1989 to pursue post-doctoral research at the Michigan State University after completing his doctoral degree in bioscience at the University of Madras.

After completing his MBA in 1999 at Michigan, he became a technology entrepreneur and business leader.

src: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-08-04/news/29850806_1_external-affairs-secretary-entrepreneur

kongutamizhan
August 10th, 2011, 02:40 AM
thank god! thatha haven't printed his pic with manja thundu in front page for samaseer kalvi books

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/1082011/FE_1008_MN_01_Cni02.jpg

dailythanthi

And I thank god that thatha didn't give out free condoms with a picture of his face on the latex :lol:

Otherwise his face used to be everywhere on everything government :)

vs007
August 10th, 2011, 04:36 AM
BTW oru doubt: If someone denies chocolates to a kid, kid can complain to mommy. andha mummy-kae chocolate kidaikalaenna?
if others are getting chocolates except this mummy, then questions needs to be raised about her attitude due to which the kids are starving.

Arul Murugan
August 10th, 2011, 05:19 AM
if others are getting chocolates except this mummy, then questions needs to be raised about her attitude due to which the kids are starving.

You are much correct! mummy should go and sit in Delhi and woooooo them like stalin/maran use to do in korea or other countries.:lol:


in other words... amma thaiyae. ithaly deivamey pichai podunga.:lol:

rsubbu.mdu
August 10th, 2011, 06:02 AM
Its far ahead of Mai pottu Parkarathu ..... Devaprasnam is peformed to know the views of the presiding detity in a temple. Usually i have seen this being done before performing the Kumbaabhishekam of a temple to know what corrective actions need to be carried out in the temple and its practices ...

to know more ... (http://www.jyothishakalalayam.net/Deva_Prashna.aspx)

Devaprasnam continues to reveal disturbing signs
10 Aug 2011 , TheNewIE (http://expressbuzz.com/states/kerala/devaprasnam-continues-to-reveal-disturbing-signs/302758.html)

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Unpleasantness continued to cloud over the temple affairs on the second day of Devaprasnam at Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple here on Tuesday. Lord’s displeasures poured out aplenty similar to the first day.


The Devaprasnam found out that the revelation of treasures has seriously discomfited the God since the treasures are inexorably linked to the preservation of ‘Chaitanya’ and hence they should have a secret nature.

Referring to the unopened ‘B’ vault, the astrologers said that the chaitanya of the temple is closely associated with the ‘B’ vault and disturbing certain rooted traditions could unleash the wrath of God.

Since the temple is of extreme national significance, any such inauspicious signs related to temple could also affect the nation and even the existence of administrative set-up. The curses of Brahmin society who once took care of the temple and who were later evicted still linger over the temple, indicated the astrologers.

The rituals and customs in the temple were found to have long lost the sanctity with which such rituals ought to be performed. “There is something called ‘ Fear of the God’. All those who look after the temple affairs have unfortunately come to dispossess the fear of god,’’ said Madhur Narayana Rangabhattu, the chief astrologer.

It was also pointed out that the people on duty in the temple have profaned the ambience of the temple. The astrologers said that those associated with temple affairs have indulged in activities so unsuited to a temple including immoral activities and that too inside the temple. Meanwhile, the Devaprasnam also listed out certain special poojas to be performed to cleanse the temple and to appease the Lord. The final judgement will be taken on Wednesday.

Leo_r
August 10th, 2011, 11:29 AM
^^
Very Funny. Astrologers,Govt, Supreme Court all in the game of making a sensational drama.

A few years ago, one Karnataka Actress said she was inside the temple and they did the same "Prasanna Jothidam".. National media had a field day then..nothing else.

It should have been just an administrative decision by the Govt. to audit the wealth of the temple.

I tell you, Heaven will not fall on us if you open the room "B". Kerala will see only more prosperity.

vs007
August 10th, 2011, 12:29 PM
You are much correct! mummy should go and sit in Delhi and woooooo them like stalin/maran use to do in korea or other countries.:lol:


in other words... amma thaiyae. ithaly deivamey pichai podunga.:lol:
Hope her actions and the rulings on samacheer kalvi teaches her lesson that its not the goal, but her style is causing the pain and hardships to others. But then if she had that much introspection, she would have been an undisputed leader of TN from 1994 onwards itself.

krishnaswamy
August 10th, 2011, 01:54 PM
But then if she had that much introspection, she would have been an undisputed leader of TN from 1994 onwards itself.
1991 onwards..
Atlast you have accepted the fact... Thatha did not come on his own merits..
Since JJ was not strong, people have voted for other option....
but lets see what are the options we have @ 2016

ceeznic pirate
August 10th, 2011, 02:14 PM
HC orders notice to Stalin over electoral victory

The Madras High Court on Wednesday ordered issue of notice to DMK leader MK Stalin on a petition challenging his election to the assembly from Kolathur, filed by the AIADMK candidate who lost by 2,600 votes.

When the petition, filed by Saidai Duraisamy, came up for hearing, Justice K Venkataraman issued a notice to the former deputy chief minister returnable in four weeks.

In his petition, Duraisamy had alleged that Stalin abused his position as the deputy chief minister and misused official machinery during the April 13 Assembly polls.

The judge also issued similar notices to former DMK minister AV Velu, whose election from Tiruvannamalai had been challenged by his AIADMK rival S Ramachandran and to G Anbazhagan of the DMK (Kumbakonam), whose election had been questioned by his AIADMK rival Rama Ramanathan.

Notices were also issued to DMK's KR Periyakarruppan (Tirupattur) and Nallathambi (Egmore SC), whose elections had also been challenged by independent candidates.

Source (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hc-orders-notice-to-stalin-over-electoral-victory/174647-62-128.html)

kannan infratech
August 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM
What JJ has asked for is the Additional Funds from the Central Govt apart from what was planned (CG has sanctioned what was asked as planned funds)

For any additional funds, details and approvals are needed from GOM at CG. Her top priority is the Power Infrastructure and unofficially the Freebies. CG does not accept the freebies portion, I think. Unless TNEB & other arms of Power Dept complete the reforms as demanded by the lending agencies, funds for this will be difficult.

Already the TNEB & its arms owe so much to suppliers & contractors and it is having a negative balance of more than Rs. 1 lakh crores. If TN Govt does not pay them, TNEB may be forced to wind up soon and the private sector will not come forward to set up new power units in TN.. She needs funds for the same.

She has settled some very old dues so that the atmosphere has not been worsened.

For getting the funds, TN Govt has to be pro active including building a bridge with the concerned people at CG. Posturing is going on from both sides. Congress has taught a lesson to MK @ Kanimozhi issue and may extract political concessions from JJ for this additional funds. On Srilanka issue, she has put CG in docks and the US downgrade has forced the biggies to fly out to take care of their priorities.

TN Power crisis is not their priority.

Anniyan
August 10th, 2011, 11:41 PM
இலங்கையில் தமிழர்கள் கொல்லப்பட்ட விவகாரம் தொடர்பாக பார்லிமென்டில் நடைபெறவுள்ள விவாதம் குறித்த அறிவிப்பில், அடுத்தடுத்து மாற்றங்கள் செய்யப்பட்டன. இதன் பின்னணி குறித்து சந்தேகம் கிளம்பியுள்ளது. இலங்கை போர் நடைபெற்ற போது, அப்பாவி தமிழ் மக்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டது குறித்து ஐக்கிய நாடுகள் சபை வெளியிட்டிருக்கும் அறிக்கை தொடர்பாக பார்லிமென்டில் விவாதம் நடத்த, தமிழகத்தைச் சேர்ந்த அ.தி.மு.க., - தி.மு.க., - கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சிகளின் சார்பில் நோட்டீஸ் அளிக்கப்பட்டது. லோக்சபாவில், விதிஎண் 193ன் கீழ், பொது விவாதமாக நடைபெறவுள்ள இலங்கை தமிழர் பிரச்னை, கடந்த வாரமே நடைபெற்றிருக்க வேண்டும். ஆனால், நடக்கவில்லை. இந்நிலையில், லோக்சபா அலுவல்கள் குறித்த கையேடு நேற்று காலை வழக்கம் போல அனைவருக்கும் வினியோகிக்கப்பட்டது. அதில், இலங்கையில் தமிழர்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டது குறித்து ஐ.நா., சபை வெளியிட்டுள்ள அறிக்கையை மையமாக வைத்து பொது விவாதம் நடைபெற உள்ளதாக அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது. அ.தி.மு.க., சார்பில் தம்பித்துரை மற்றும் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சிகள் சார்பில் சிலர் இதுகுறித்த நோட்டீஸ் அளித்திருந்தாலும், தி.மு.க.,வின் பார்லிமென்டரி கட்சித் தலைவர் டி.ஆர்.பாலு அளித்த நோட்டீஸ் மட்டுமே பட்டியலாகியிருந்தது. இவரோடு சேர்ந்து சமாஜ்வாடியின் சைலேந்திர குமாரும் இந்த பிரச்னையை கிளப்புவதாக கூறப்பட்டிருந்தது. அதாவது, Discussion under rule 193 shri T.R.BAALU, shri SHAILENDRA KUMAR to raise a discussion on alleged killing of Sri Lankan Tamils by Sri Lankan army in the year 2009 as recently revealed in a United Nations Report என்ற வாசகங்கள் இடம்பெற்று இருந்தன. இந்த லோக்சபா குறிப்பேடு, பத்திரிகையாளர்கள் மற்றும் எம்.பி.,க்கள் என, அனைவருக்குமே காலையிலேயே வினியோகிக்கப்பட்டது. ஆனால், பா.ஜ.,வினர் அமளி காரணமாக சபை ஒத்திவைக்கப்பட்ட நேரத்தில், எம்.பி.,க்கள் மத்தியில், திருத்தப்பட்ட ஒரு லிஸ்ட் வினியோகிக்கப்பட்டது.
அதில், இலங்கை தமிழர்கள் கொல்லப்பட்ட விவகாரத்தின் விவாதம் குறித்து, காலையில் அளிக்கப்பட்டிருந்த குறிப்பேடு வாசகங்கள் அப்படியே மாற்றியமைக்கப்பட்டிருந்தன. ஒரு சில எம்.பி.,க்கள் இதை கண்டு ஆச்சரியமும், குழப்பமும் அடைந்தனர். அதாவது, ரிவைஸ்டு லிஸ்ட் ஆப் பிசினெஸ் என, தலைப்பிட்டு அதில், இலங்கையில் வாழும் தமிழர்களின் புனர்வாழ்வுக்கு இந்தியா செய்து வரும் உதவிகள் மற்றும் நடவடிக்கைககள் மீதான விவாதம் நடைபெறவிருப்பதாக தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது.

அதாவது, shri.T.R.BAALU, shri SHAILENDRA KUMAR to raise a discussion on the steps taken by Government of India for relief and resettlement of Tamils in SriLanka and other measures to promote their welfare என்று வாசகங்கள் மாற்றம் செய்யப்பட்டிருந்தன. ஒரே விவாதம் குறித்து காலையில் அளிக்கப்பட்ட அலுவல் குறிப்பேட்டில் ஒருவிதமாகவும், மதியம் அளிக்கப்பட்ட குறிப்பேட்டில் மற்றொரு விதமாகவும் மாற்றம் செய்யப்பட்டது ஏன்? என்பது மர்மமாக உள்ளது. இரண்டிலுமே பார்லிமென்ட் செகரட்டரி ஜெனரல் டி.கே.விஸ்வநாதன் கையொப்பமுள்ளது. போரின்போது அப்பாவி தமிழர்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டனர் என்பதே பார்லிமென்டில் விவாதமாக வரக்கூடாது என கருதப்பட்டதா என்ற சந்தேகம் எழுந்தது. இருப்பினும், இந்த விவாதம் டி.ஆர்.பாலு அளித்த நோட்டீஸ் அடிப்படையில்தான் ஏற்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. அப்படியானால், டி.ஆர்.பாலு அளித்த நோட்டீசில் இருந்த வாசகங்கள் ஏன் மாற்றம் செய்யப்பட்டன? அப்படியே மாற்றுவது என்று முடிவு செய்திருந்தாலும்கூட டி.ஆர்.பாலுவிடம் தகவல் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டதா, இல்லையா என்பது தெரியவில்லை. இந்த திடீர் மாற்றத்தை, அ.தி.மு.க., உள்ளிட்ட பிற கட்சிகள் இன்று அவையில் எழுப்பலாம் என்று தகவல்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.

-dinamalar

Mr.Nellai
August 11th, 2011, 04:46 AM
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Mr.Nellai
August 11th, 2011, 04:48 AM
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August 11th, 2011, 04:49 AM
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Mr.Nellai
August 11th, 2011, 04:54 AM
The bus in photo is a Valapari - Hi-Forest service!! It seems Dhandapani sir has given good training to his area people :)

:lol: ! subbu ithu konjam over!

Arul Murugan
August 11th, 2011, 05:50 AM
crossposting

5 Coimbatore companies get order for manufacturing free grinders of TN gvt scheme.

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/08/11/20110811a_005104008.jpg

DKN

but the above news is like complaining, how all 10 companies can be selected from Coimbatore? Since CBE is the hub for this product they have selected five from here and 5 others gone to Erode, Tirunelveli and Chennai.

kvijayasundaram
August 11th, 2011, 07:07 AM
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/aiadmk-mla-takes-sycophancy-new-level-937

Amma, Gandhi was born and ahimsa was born; Buddha was born and wisdom was born; Prophet Mohamed was born and amity was born; Anna was born and love was born; Mother Theresa was born and compassion was born; Oh mother, you were born and all these great qualities were born. In all, you are Tamil Nadu and there’s no India without you’. :bash:

No, this is not some stage rhetoric from a besotted cadre trying hard to impress his all-powerful party chief. It was AIADMK’s T’Nagar legislator V. P. Kalairajan singing paeans of praise of chief minister Ms Jayalalithaa in the state Assembly on Wednesday. She was present in the House. The second-term MLA spent a good part of his speech on eulogising his leader, hailing her as the beacon light of Tamil Nadu and swearing his loyalty not only through his present lifetime but also in the next birth.

“Amma, the sun (DMK) set when you rose; kingdoms looked in awe when you rose; the entire nation greeted you when you str-ode; you assumed leadership and Tamil Nadu stood proud; you became the chi-ef minister and the entire world turned towards Tamil Nadu, dazed by your English..”, said Mr Kalairajan. He declared with gusto that there “is no India without Amma” who is comparable to Plato, Socrates, Magini and Bernard Shaw.

The ruling party legislator said ten crore Tamils thanked Amma for protecting their interests when she got the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to accept her suggestion and impose economic sanctions against the Sri Lankan government for war crimes. On the other hand, DMK leader M. Karunanidhi had betrayed the Tamils, he said. Mr Kalairajan has long been

dhandapanik
August 11th, 2011, 11:43 AM
President rejects mercy plea of Rajiv Gandhi's assassins | ராஜிவ் கொலை: கருணை மனு நிராகரிப்பு
புதுடில்லி: ராஜிவ் கொலை குற்றவாளிகளின் கருணை மனுவை ஜனாதிபதி பிரதிபா பாட்டீல் நிராகரித்துள்ளார். முன்னாள் பிரதமர் ராஜிவ், கடந்த 1991ம் ஆண்டு மே 21ம் தேதி, ஸ்ரீபெரும்புதூர் பொதுக்கூட்டத்தில் நடந்த தற்கொலைப்படை தாக்குதலில் உயிரிழந்தார். இச்சம்பவம் தொடர்பாக, விடுதலைப்புலிகள் இயக்கத்தைச் சேர்ந்த முருகன், சாந்தன், பேரறிவாளன் மற்றும் நளினி ஆகியோருக்கு, கடந்த 1999ம் ஆண்டு சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட்தூக்கு தண்டனை விதித்தது. பின்னர், இவர்களில் நளினியின் தண்டனை ஆயுள் தண்டனையாக குறைக்கப்பட்டது. மீதமுள்ள மூன்று பேரும், ஜனாதிபதியிடம் கருணைமனு தாக்கல் செய்தனர். இவர்களின் மனு ஜனாதிபதியால் நிராகரிக்கப்பட்டதாக, ஜனாதிபதி மாளிகை செய்தித்தொடர்பாளர் தெரிவித்தார்.

Source: http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=292938

Arul Murugan
August 11th, 2011, 11:50 AM
தமிழகத்தை இழிவுபடுத்திய கோத்தபயாவை இந்தியா கடுமையாக கண்டிக்க வேண்டும்- ஜெயலலிதா ஆவேசம்

சென்னை: தமிழக சட்டசபையில் நிறைவேற்றிய தீர்மானத்தை இழிவுபடுத்திப் பேசியுள்ளார் கோத்தபயா ராஜபக்சே. அவரது பேச்சுக்கு இந்தியா, இலங்கை தூதரை நேரில் வரவழைத்து கடும் கண்டனம் தெரிவிக்க வேண்டும் என்று முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா ஆவேசமாக கூறியுள்ளார்.

இலங்கையில் தமிழர்களை கொடூரமாகக் கொல்ல உத்தரவிட்டவர் கோத்தபயா. இந்த நிலையில் தமிழக சட்டசபையில் கடந்த மாதம், ஈழத் தமிழர்களைக் கொன்று குவித்த இலங்கைக்குப் பாடம் கற்பிக்கும் வகையில் அந்த நாட்டின் மீது பொருளாதார தடை விதிக்க வேண்டும் என்று கோரி ஏக மனதாக தீர்மானம் நிறைவேற்றப்பட்டது. இந்த தீர்மானத்தை திமுக தலைவர் கருணாநிதி உள்பட அனைத்துக் கட்சியினரும் வரவேற்றிருந்தனர்.

இந்த நிலையில் தமிழக சட்டசபைதீர்மானத்தையும், தமிழக அரசியல் தலைவர்களையும், முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதாவையும் கடுமையாக விமர்சனம் செய்து பேட்டி அளித்துள்ளார் கோத்தபயா. இதற்கு திமுக தலைவர் கருணாநிதி கடும் கண்டனம் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.

இந்தநிலையில் இந்த விவகாரம் இன்றுசட்டசபையில் எதிரொலித்தது. சட்டசபையில் எதிர்க்கட்சிகள் ஒரே குரலில் கோத்தபயாவுக்குக் கண்டனம் தெரிவித்தனர். கோத்தபயாவின் விஷமப் பேச்சுக்கு இந்தியா கடும் கண்டனம் தெரிவிக்க வேணடும் என்று உறுப்பினர்கள் கோரிக்கை விடுத்தனர்.

அப்போது முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா பேசுகையில், தமிழக சட்டசபையில் இலங்கை மீது பொருளாதார தடை விதிக்கக் கோரி வலியுறுத்தி நிறைவேற்றப்பட்ட தீர்மானம் இதுவரை இந்திய அரசு நடவடிக்கை எதையும் எடுக்கவில்லை. இதுதான் இன்று கோத்தபயா ராஜபக்சே அந்தத் தீர்மானத்தை இழிவுபடுத்திப் பேசும் அளவுக்குப் போயுள்ளது.

கச்சத்தீவு அருகே தமிழக மீனவர்கள் மீன்பிடிக்கக் கூடாது என்று கூறியுள்ளார் கோத்தபயா ராஜபக்சே. இது இந்தியா இலங்கை இடையே கச்சத்தீவு தொடர்பாக ஏற்படுத்திக் கொள்ளப்பட்ட ஒப்பந்தத்தை மீறும் வகையில் உள்ளது.

தமிழக மீனவர்களுக்கு கச்சத்தீவு அருகே மீன்பிடிக்க முழு உரிமையும் உள்ளது. இதை இந்திய அரசு, இலங்கையிடம் தெரிவித்து கோத்தபயாவின் பேச்சுக்குக் கடும் கண்டனம் தெரிவிக்க வேண்டும்.

தமிழக சட்டசபை தீர்மானத்தை இழிவுபடுத்திப் பேசிய கோத்தபயாவுக்கு இந்தியா கடும் கண்டனம் தெரிவிக்க வேண்டும். டெல்லியில் உள்ள இலங்கை தூதரை நேரில் அழைத்து இந்தியா தனது கடுமையான கண்டனத்தை தெரிவிக்க வேண்டும்

தமிழக சட்டசபையில் நிறைவேற்றப்பட்ட தீர்மானம் மீ்து மத்திய அரசு உடனடியாக நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும் என்று ஆவேசமாகப் பேசினார் முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா.


Topics: sri lanka, jayalalitha, கோத்தபயா ராஜபக்சே, இலங்கைத் தமிழர், tn assembly
English summary
CM Jayalalitha has strongly condemned Gotabaya Rajapakse for his comments on resolution on Sri Lanka passed last month in TN assembly. Jayalalitha said, Indian govt should condemn Gotabaya for his comments. Gotabaya has said that TN fishermen have no rights to fishing near Kachatheevu. This is a violation of the pact signed between India and Sri Lanka. Opposition parties also condemned Gotabaya

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/08/11/cm-jayalalitha-strongly-condemns-gotabaya-rajapakse-aid0091.html

Anniyan
August 11th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Ok, now CG will send Sivasankara Menon to Colombo to have a cup of tea with Rajapaksas

sarathy
August 11th, 2011, 01:07 PM
crossposting
Their concern is different. They have not worried because they got 50%. 50% is not bad. But govt had selected only 5 companies out of 500 companies running in cbe,and only those 5 companies will be benefited.

They feel it would be better that if govt had selected more companies [say not 5 but 50+] so that 25 companies will be benefited.

rsubbu.mdu
August 11th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Good article by Gurumurthy Ji in the NewIE exposing the Sickulars with regards to the Sohrabuddin case:

Link (http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/columnists/sohrabuddin-interrogating-the-media/303033.html)

siruthai
August 11th, 2011, 01:21 PM
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Kodi kaatha Kumaran therium! Idenna Pudusa, Kudai Kaatha Sardara?:lol:

sarathy
August 11th, 2011, 03:05 PM
http://www.flixya.com/files-photo/s/a/n/sandeepr2257310.jpg

N.kumar
August 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM
i stumbled upon some old files describing sangam age karur.

Shall post in history thread, if kongu nadu people interested.

N.kumar
August 11th, 2011, 03:08 PM
sarathy

how many times this fake thing will get posted. you even had media articel on erode distribution.

And then yesterday parliament distribution.

kongutamizhan
August 11th, 2011, 03:10 PM
Amma, Gandhi was born and ahimsa was born; Buddha was born and wisdom was born; Prophet Mohamed was born and amity was born; Anna was born and love was born; Mother Theresa was born and compassion was born; Oh mother, you were born and all these great qualities were born. In all, you are Tamil Nadu and there’s no India without you’.

Wow!!! speechu sooper. ennikaachum indha forum-la Nami'kku use senjikkiren :lol:

siruthai
August 11th, 2011, 03:16 PM
i stumbled upon some old files describing sangam age karur.

Shall post in history thread, if kongu nadu people interested.

There is no question "if", Plz Post.

rsubbu.mdu
August 11th, 2011, 03:17 PM
President rejects mercy plea of Rajiv Gandhi's assassins | ராஜிவ் கொலை: கருணை மனு நிராகரிப்பு

Why suddenly President is acting on the mercy peitions of Rajiv Gandhi and Parliament attack case convict.

and see how our so called intellectuals Kashimi peace makers responded to the Afzal guru news...

Govt's decision on Afzal Guru badly timed: Dilip Padgaonkar :bash:

NDTV NEWS Link (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/govts-decision-on-afzal-guru-badly-timed-dilip-padgaonkar-125853)

siruthai
August 11th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Why suddenly President is acting on the mercy peitions of Rajiv Gandhi and Parliament attack case convict.

and see how our so called intellectuals Kashimi peace makers responded to the Afzal guru news...

Govt's decision on Afzal Guru badly timed: Dilip Padgaonkar :bash:

NDTV NEWS Link (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/govts-decision-on-afzal-guru-badly-timed-dilip-padgaonkar-125853)

This Dilip Padgaonkar is linked to ISI, When ISI Agent Fai was arrested by
America, his name propped up. Then media was silenced by Govt and
other agencies,

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_dileep-padgaonkar-should-resign-over-ghulam-nabi-fai-links-panun-kashmir_1568690

http://post.jagran.com/search/news-on-gulam-nabi-fai-link-with-isi/Nation

In 1947, Nation had paid by Blood and land due to minority appeasement by erstwhile congress. Todays congress is also no different. Same minority appeasement!

Secularism has failed in India, Lets accept the fact ! Reason is blatant minority appeasement!

rsubbu.mdu
August 11th, 2011, 03:32 PM
http://www.dinamani.com/Images/article/2011/8/11/NEXTtarget.JPG

:lol:

Source: Dinamani Photoon...

Malaysia Mustafa
August 11th, 2011, 06:46 PM
http://www.dinamani.com/Images/article/2011/8/11/NEXTtarget.JPG

:lol:

Source: Dinamani Photoon...

That is in B & C Mill's wall, Perambur.

bonoslack7
August 11th, 2011, 07:36 PM
http://www.mydigitalfc.com/news/laptop-makers-dither-joining-tn-freebie-plan-390

Computer makers are wary of the staggered payment system in the Tamil Nadu government scheme to honour the AIADMK poll promise of giving free laptops to higher secondary school and college students.

Their other worry is over branding issues. Manufacturers have been told not to print their logos on the laptops.

The tendering process for the first phase was initiated in July and the successful bidders are yet to be announced. Though major manufacturers have participated in the initial process, they have reservations about payment and branding clauses, according to officials of some of these companies.

As part of its poll promise, AIADMK had announced plans to distribute about 6.8 million free laptops over five years. This will cost the state Rs 10,200 crore.

The scheme is said to have created India’s single largest captive market for laptops. The overall market in India, about 10 million PCs in 2010, is expected to reach 13.2 million this year. Gartner expects sales to grow by about 61 per cent over last year to about 5.9 million mobile PCs/ laptops, not counting the Tamil Nadu government.

The state invited tenders for the first phase of the free laptop scheme in July. This was to buy 912,000 laptops. In the revised budget estimates, Rs 912 crore has been provided for the scheme. Companies had placed technical bids, with price bids coming later. Supplies are expected to begin on September 1. The scheme will be launched on September 15.

According to a person in the know, companies, including Samsung, ASUS and Dell, have placed bids. The state is said to prefer brands that have service centres in all districts.

Officials at the Electronics Corporation of Tamil Nadu (Elcot) refused to comment as the process is under way. The minimum specifications required include the Windows or Linux operating system, wireless 2 GB RAM and 320 GB hard disk.

“We have no issues with meeting the technical specifications. Our problem is with the payment clause. To our understanding, the government will pay in installments over a three-year period. We have doubts about being paid on time and don’t want to involve our partners, who may lose heavily,” the national head of a big multinational laptop maker told Financial Chronicle.

Manufacturers also have issues with branding of the laptops. They are not allowed to display their logos on devices. This was done when free TV sets were distributed by the DMK regime. “One of our concerns is branding. Our logos will not appear anywhere on the laptops. The government wants only its logo to appear when the laptops are booted,” said a spokesperson of another company, which has a large manufacturing base in India.

Government sources said that its logo has been mandated on the laptops to prevent resale of the freebies. During the last regime free colour TVs ended up being sold in the open market for anywhere between Rs 600 and Rs 1,000. The current government believes that bar on branding will deter resale.

krishnaswamy
August 11th, 2011, 08:23 PM
Source (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/software/nandan-nilekanis-uidai-and-census-npr-in-role-overlap-for-fingerprinting-and-other-biometric-data/articleshow/9560067.cms)
Nandan Nilekani's UIDAI and Census' NPR in role overlap for fingerprinting and other biometric data

could anyone help me out.. why we need both UID and NPR card? why there were duplicate efforts and cost?

kongutamizhan
August 11th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Source (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/software/nandan-nilekanis-uidai-and-census-npr-in-role-overlap-for-fingerprinting-and-other-biometric-data/articleshow/9560067.cms)
Nandan Nilekani's UIDAI and Census' NPR in role overlap for fingerprinting and other biometric data

could anyone help me out.. why we need both UID and NPR card? why there were duplicate efforts and cost?

That doesn't make any sense to me either!! Why can't they capture all details they want against UID?

Arul Murugan
August 12th, 2011, 10:02 AM
Earthquake at Salem, Perambalur, Cuddalore and Villupuram districts....

Anniyan
August 12th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Does a State Govt has a jurisdiction to decide whether to ban Capital punishment in the state?

We know DMK is against capital punishment, what is ADMKs view on this?

Seeman has request Jaya to pass a resolution in the Assembly to ban death punishment and set an example for other states to follow.

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 03:22 PM
This is why I love captain :)

Source (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/08/12/samacheer-kalvi-can-produce-clerks-not-kalams-aid0128.html)

சமச்சீர் கல்வியைக் கற்றால் கிளர்க் ஆகலாம், கலாம் ஆக முடியாது- விஜயகாந்த் தாக்கு

சென்னை: சமச்சீர் கல்வியைப் படித்தால் கிளர்க்குகளை தான் உருவாக்கலாம். அப்துல் கலாம் போன்றவர்களை உருவாக்க முடியாது என்று தேமுதிக தலைவரும், எதிர்கட்சித் தலைவருமான விஜயகாந்த் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.

சட்டசபையில் இன்று பட்ஜெட் மீதான விவாதத்தில் கலந்து கொண்டு எதிர்க்கட்சித் தலைவர் விஜயகாந்த் பேசினார். அப்போது அவர் கூறியதாவது:

நகர்ப்புறங்களில் வசதிகள் அதிகமுள்ள பள்ளிகளில் படித்த பிள்ளைகள் கூறுகையில், நாங்கள் 4-ம் வகுப்பில் படித்தது தான் தற்போது 8-ம் வகுப்பு பாடத்தில் உள்ளது. இதில் என்ன புதிதாக கற்றுக்கொள்ளப் போகிறோம் என்கின்றனர்.

இது ஒரு புறம் இருக்க மறு புறம் கிராமப்புற பள்ளிகளில் படித்த மாணவர்களுக்கு 8-ம் வகுப்பு பாடப்புத்தகம் படிப்பதற்கு கடினமாக உள்ளது. பொதுப்பாடத்திட்டதின்படி தேர்வு வைத்தால் நகர்ப்புற மாணவர்கள் எளிதில் தேர்வாகி மேல் படிப்புக்குச் சென்றுவிடுவார்கள். ஆனால் கிராமப்புற மாணவர்களால் அது முடியாது. இதை சமூக நீதி என்று எவ்வாறு கூற முடியும்?

தற்போதுள்ள பாடத்திட்டத்தை படித்தால் கிளர்க்குகளை உருவாக்கலாம். ஆனால் அப்துல் கலாம் போன்றவர்களை உருவாக்க முடியாது.

உண்மையான சமச்சீர் கல்வியைக் கொண்டு வர வேண்டுமானால் முதலில் பள்ளிகளில் அடிப்படை வசதிகள் செய்ய வேண்டும். அதற்கான திட்டங்களை வகுக்க வேண்டும்.

வண்டிக்கு முன்புதான் குதிரையை மாட்ட வேண்டுமே தவிர, குதிரைக்குப் பின்னால் வண்டி இழுத்துக் கொண்டு ஓடுவது சரியாக வராது. தற்போதைய பொதுப் பாடத்திட்டம் முன்னுக்குப் பின் முரணாக உள்ளது.

நில மீட்பு நடவடிக்கைளால் மக்கள் நிம்மதி பெருமூச்சு

கடந்த ஆட்சியில் திமுகவினர் சட்ட விரோதமான முறையில் மக்களை பயமுறுத்தி மக்களின் சொத்துக்களை பறித்தனர். இப்போது இத்தகைய சொத்துக்களை மீட்டு உரியவர்களுக்கு தர முன் வந்து இருப்பது தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்கள் அனைவராலும் வரவேற்வேற்கப்படுகிறது.

ஆனால் முன்னாள் முதல்வர் கருணாநிதி பழிவாங்கும் நடவடிக்கை என்கிறார், பொய் வழக்கு போடுவதாக குற்றம் சொல்கிறார். அப்படி என்றால் நீதிமன்றம் சென்று தங்களை விடுவித்துக் கொள்வது தான் முறையே தவிர திமுகவினர் ஆர்ப்பாட்டம் அமளி என்று நடத்துவது போடப்பட்டது பொய் வழக்கு அல்ல என்பது வெட்ட வெளிச்சமாகிறது.

அரசின் நில மீட்பு நடவடிக்கையால் மக்கள் நிம்மதியுடன் இருக்கிறார்கள். தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்கள் ஆதரித்து வெற்றி பெறச் செய்துள்ள கூட்டணியால் உருவான இந்த ஆட்சி அனைவருக்கும் சம வாய்ப்பு அளிக்கும் சமுதாயத்தை உருவாக்கும் வகையில் நிதி நிலை அறிக்கை திருப்பு முனையாக அமைந்துள்ளது.

கண்ணை மூடிக் கொண்டு பாராட்டலாம்

தமிழக அரசு ஒரு சிறப்பான பட்ஜெட்டை தாக்கல் செய்துள்ளது. பல்வேறு இலவச திட்டங்கள் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.

பல்வேறு உதவிகளும் அதிகமாக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. அனைவரும் பாராட்டும் வகையில் சிறந்த பட்ஜெட் அமைந்துள்ளது. இதில் புதிய திட்டம் எதுவும் இல்லை என்று சிலர் கூறுகிறார்கள். அவர்கள் கண் இருந்தும் பாராத கருத்து குருடர்கள். இது கண்ணை மூடிக்கொண்டு பாராட்டக் கூடிய பட்ஜெட்.

அந்த அளவுக்கு ஏராளமான சலுகைகள் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டு உள்ளன. ஏழை நடுத்தர மக்களை விலைவாசி உயர்வு தாக்கத்தில் இருந்து மீட்பதற்கு புதிய திட்டங்கள் உதவும். ரூ.8 ஆயிரத்து 900 கோடி அளவுக்கு புதிய திட்டங்களும், சலுகைகளும் அளிக்கப்பட்டு இருப்பது சமுதாயத்தின் அடித்தள மக்களின் வாழ்க்கை தரத்தை உயர்த்தும்.

ஏழைகளை அடையாளம் காண்பித்து அவர்களுக்கு ஏற்படும் குறைகளைகளைய அடையாள அட்டை வழங்க வேண்டும். ஏழைகளுக்கு உதவிகள் முழுமையாக கிடைக்க இடையூறாக இருந்து தவறு செய்யும் அதிகாரிகள் மீது கடும் நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும். இளைஞர்களின் வேலை வாய்ப்பு அதிகரிக்க கல்லூரிகளிலேயே, அவர்களுக்கு வேலை வாய்ப்பு பயிற்சி அளிக்க வேண்டும்.

திமுக ஆட்சியில் இதற்கான அக்கறை செலுத்தப்படவில்லை. விவசாயிகளுக்கு இப்போது சலுகைகளை அரசு அறிவித்து உள்ளது. அவர்கள் பயிரிடும் விளை பொருட்களுக்கு உத்தரவாதம் கிடைக்க அரசு நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும்.

பெண்களுக்கு இந்த பட்ஜெட்டில் பல்வேறு சலுகைகள் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டு உள்ளன. பெண்கள் நாட்டின் கண்கள் என்ற திட்டத்தை நான் எனது சொந்த பணத்தில் செயல்படுத்தினேன். எல்.ஐ.சி. மூலம் ரூ. 10 ஆயிரம் முதலீடு செய்தால் திருமண வயதை எட்டும் போது அந்த பெண்ணுக்கு ரூ.2 லட்சம் கிடைக்கும். இது போன்று ரூ.30 ஆயிரம் போட்டால் 18 ஆண்டில் ரூ.3 லட்சம் கிடைக்கும் திட்டம் எல்.ஐ.சி.யில் உள்ளது. இதனை அரசு பரிசீலிக்க வேண்டும்.

கடந்த திமுக ஆட்சியில் சுய உதவிக் குழுக்கள் அரசியல் நோக்கத்திற்காக பயன்பட்டு வந்தன. சமூக நலத்துறையில் இருந்த சுய உதவி குழுக்கள் மு.க.ஸ்டாலினிடம் உள்ளாட்சி துறை இருந்ததால் அந்த துறைக்கு மாற்றப்பட்டது. எனவே, சுய உதவிக் குழுக்களை மீண்டும் சமூக நலத்துறைக்கு மாற்ற அரசு நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும் என்றார்.

English summary


DMDK chief Vijayakanth has told in the TN assembly that Samacheer Kalvi can give clerks and not great people like Abdul Kalam. He highly doubts the effectiveness of this system of education. He appreciates the TN budget as it has lots of good things for the poor.

murlee
August 12th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Thank God someone realised this and brought this out... I am sure Jaya would change the current samacheer system by next academic year for schools..

Hope, plans start for that soon and good standard of syllabus is laid out!

Anniyan
August 12th, 2011, 03:38 PM
Thank God someone realised this and brought this out... I am sure Jaya would change the current samacheer system by next academic year for schools..

Hope, plans start for that soon and good standard of syllabus is laid out!

You want the system to be changed or the syllabus?

murlee
August 12th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Syllabus in the short run ( i.e next year), System in the long run...

Anniyan
August 12th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Syllabus in the short run ( i.e next year), System in the long run...

Some argue against the syllabus but nobody opposes the system except Matric schools owners.

why are you against the samacheer kalvi system?

murlee
August 12th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Some argue against the syllabus but nobody opposes the system except Matric schools owners.

why are you against the samacheer kalvi system?

I am not against samacheer...

By change in the system, I meant changing this emphasis on rote learning and putting more focus on a practical system that triggers creativity in a child.. Sorry for not putting it well in my 1st post..

That is why I said change in the system in the long run..

Arul Murugan
August 12th, 2011, 05:18 PM
sema kaalai... manada mayila vijay tv la otturanga...

onnu kala master, innunu namitha va ila ramba va ila kushbuva?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaTNJhmbWk0

v=aaTNJhmbWk0

georgenadar
August 12th, 2011, 05:33 PM
ஈரோடு: "விக்கிலீக்ஸ்' இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுக்கப்பட்டதாகக் கூறி, தி.மு.க., - காங்கிரசார் பெயர்கள் அடங்கிய, சுவிஸ் வங்கியில் பணம் முதலீடு செய்தோர் பட்டியல் நகல் வினியோகிக்கப்படுகிறது. ஆனாலும், இந்த இணைய தளத்தில் வெளியான பட்டியல் ஒரு சிலரைக் கூட சென்றடையாமல், இணைய தளம் தடை செய்யப்பட்டது. விவரங்கள் அடங்கிய நகல்கள், ஈரோடு மக்களிடம் நேற்று வினியோகிக்கப்பட்டது. அதில், நிரா ராடியா, முன்னாள் பிரதமர் ராஜிவ், நரேஷ்கோயல், கருணாநிதி, ஸ்டாலின், ஆ.ராஜா , எஸ்.எஸ்.பழனிமாணிக்கம், லாலு, உட்பட பலரது பெயர்கள் இடம்பெற்றுள்ளன. இந்த நகல் உண்மையானதா என்பதை விட, இந்த நகல்கள் அதிக அளவில் ஜெராக்ஸ் எடுத்து மக்களுக்கு வினியோகிக்கப்படுவதால், தி.மு.க., - காங்., பிரமுகர்கள் அதிர்ச்சியடைந்துள்ளனர்.

A list so said to be downloaded from wiki-leaks contains the Congress and DMK Top-guns name who holds their accounts in swiz bank and their account details were taken print-outs and distributed in Erode to public. DMK and Congress leaders were shocked!

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=291071

For Your Information :lol::lol::lol::lol:
http://i53.tinypic.com/dnjcsx.jpg

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 05:53 PM
devuda, this keeps coming again and again.

Btwn India today ac nielson nationwide polls.


Best cm - narendra modi.

2. Nitish kumar

3. Jayalalitha

Jayalaitha popularity at all time high all over India.

Survey also says Narendra Modi is BJP truimph card, his popularity among muslims high contrary to popular belief.

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 05:57 PM
I am not sure whther it is true survey, as it gives BJP a whopping 34% in UP which means its all set to return to power.

Now this runs contrary to popular belief, but Gadkari and rss are silently working.

This while poll could be fake poll of congress as well as any poll that says BJP return in UP will lead to consolidation of muslim voteswith most possible winner.

In 2007 rajdeep sardesai exit poll and ndtv went to town claiming a remarkable comeback by bjp in up after 1st phase. when results came they did as predicted in first phase, flunked the rest 6. Mayawati who was tipped to win no1 slot, got a good wave.

So could be congress strategy also.

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 06:07 PM
Centre not allowing tamilnadu to survive - Jaya :lol:

Even state government doesn't allow us to survive. Vaalpaarai valarchikku mannenaiyam. endha kaalathula irukaanga ivanga? :) oru naal ingayeum telungana vedikkum. annikku irukku koothu.

Source (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/08/12/centre-not-allowing-tamil-nadu-survive-alleges-jaya-aid0091.html)


சென்னை: தமிழகத்தை வாழ விடுவதில்லை, அதை அனுமதிப்பதில்லை என்று மத்திய அரசு தீவிரமாக செயல்பட்டு வருகிறது. ஆனால் தமிழகத்திற்கு மத்திய அரசு இழைத்து வரும் அநீதியை தகர்த்து தமிழக மக்களுக்கு நாங்கள் நன்மை செய்வோம் என்று முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா ஆவேசமாக கூறியுள்ளார்.

தமிழக சட்டசபையில் இன்று பட்ஜெட் மீதான விவாதம் நடந்தது. அப்போது சிபிஐ உறுப்பினர் ஆறுமுகம் பேசுகையில்,

வால்பாறையில் இரவில் யானைகள் பயம் உள்ளது. தீப்பந்தங்களை காட்டினால் யானைகள் ஓடிவிடும். இதற்காக அங்குள்ள மக்களுக்கு கூடுதல் மண்எண்ணெய் வழங்க வேண்டும் என்றார்.

அப்போது எழுந்த முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா, மத்திய அரசு என்ன காரணத்தினாலோ கடந்த ஜூன் மாதத்திலிருந்து தமிழகத்துக்கு வழங்கும் மண்ணெண்ணெய் அளவை குறைத்து வருகிறது. இது தொடர்பாக பிரதமருக்கு கடிதம் எழுதினோம். நேரிலும் வலியுறுத்தினோம்.

ஆனால் என்ன காரணத்தினாலோ நமக்கு வழங்கப்படும் மண்ணெண்ணெய் அளவு குறைந்து வருகிறது என்றார்.

பின்னர் தொடர்ந்து பேசிய ஆறுமுகம், தமிழகத்தின் வளர்ச்சிக்கு இதன் மூலம் மத்திய அரசு தடையாக இருப்பதாகத்தான் தெரிகிறது. இதை எதிர்த்து இடதுசாரிகள் போராடி வருகிறோம். மக்கள் தான் வருவதில்லை என்றார். மக்கள் வருவதில்லை என்று அவர் கூறியதைக் கேட்டு உறுப்பினர்கள் வாய் விட்டுச் சிரித்தனர்.

பின்னர் பேசிய சிபிஎம் உறுப்பினர் பாலபாரதி, உறுப்பினர் ஆறுமுகம் சொல்வது தவறு. இடதுசாரிகள் கடந்த 5 ஆண்டுகளாக மக்களை திரட்டி போராடி வந்ததால்தான் ஆட்சி மாற்றமே ஏற்பட்டது. எனவே மக்கள் வரவில்லை என்று கூற வேண்டாம் என்றார்.

மீண்டும் தனது பேச்சைத் தொடர்ந்த ஆறுமுகம், நாம் எதிர்பார்த்த அளவுக்கு மக்கள் வரவில்லை என்று தான் கூறினேன். ஆட்சி மாற்றத்துக்கு முக்கிய காரணம் உச்சபட்ச இமாலய ஊழலும், முறைகேடுகளும்தான் என்றார்.

இதையடுத்து குறுக்கிட்ட முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா, மக்களின் உரிமைக்காக மத்திய அரசை எதிர்த்து நாங்களும் போராடுகிறோம். நீங்களும் வாருங்கள். நீங்கள் எதிர்பார்ப்பதைவிட அதிகமாக மக்கள் நிச்சயம் வருவார்கள் என்று தெரிவித்தார்.

இதைடுத்துப் பேசிய ஆறுமுகம், இதைத்தான் நாங்கள் எதிர்பார்த்தோம். இடதுசாரிகளுடன் முதல்வர் சேர்ந்து போராடினால் நிச்சயம் வெற்றி பெறுவோம் என்றார்.

பின்னர் பேசிய சிபிஎம் தலைவர் செளந்தரராஜன், மத்திய அரசு தொடர்ந்து தமிழகத்தை பாரபட்சத்துடன் நடத்துகிறது என்றார்.

அப்போது குறுக்கிட்ட முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா, மண்ணெண்ணெய் அளவை மத்திய அரசு குறைத்து வருவது மட்டுமல்ல, நமது தேவைக்கு வெளியில் வாங்க விரும்பினாலும் அதற்கு அனுமதி வழங்குவதில்லை.

மண்ணெண்ணெய் மட்டுமல்ல தமிழகத்துக்கு தேவையான டி.ஏ.பி. உரத்தையும் போதுமான அளவுக்கு வழங்க வில்லை. பிரதமரிடம் வலியுறுத்தியும் கூட மத்திய அரசு இந்த வகை உரத்தை குறைத்துதான் வழங்குகிறது.

நான் பலமுறை தெரிவித்து விட்டேன். மாநில அரசின் நிதி ஆதாரம் மிகக் குறைவாக இருக்கிறது. அதை வைத்து எவ்வளவு முடியுமோ அந்த அளவுக்கு செய்து இருக்கிறோம். மத்திய அரசும் போதிய நிதி வழங்கவில்லை. நிதி பிரச்சனை மட்டுமல்ல மாநில அரசின் பல்வேறு அதிகாரங்களை வருவாய்களை அத்தனைஇனங்களிலும் மத்திய அரசு பறித்துவிட்டது. தற்போது மாநில அரசுக்கு வருவாய் வரக்கூடிய ஒரே இனம் வாட் வரி விதிப்பு தான்.

இதை வைத்துக்கொண்டு இத்தனை திட்டங்களையும் உருவாக்கி செயல்படுத்தி வருகிறோம். இதை விட கூடுதலாக செய்ய வேண்டும் என்ற மனமும் ஆசையும் எங்களுக்கு உண்டு. நீங்கள் முன் வைக்கிற கோரிக்கைகளை விட ஆயிரம் மடங்கு அதிகம் செய்ய வேண்டும் என்று எண்ணம் உண்டு. ஆனால் நிதி தட்டுப்பாடு காரணமாக எங்கள் கைகள் கட்டுப்பட்டுள்ளன. அந்த கட்டுப்பாட்டை தகர்த்து பகீரத முயற்சி செய்து தமிழக மக்களுக்கு நிச்சயம் நன்மை செய்வோம்.

மத்திய அரசு எத்தனை தடைகளை விதித்தாலும் அந்த தடைகளை எல்லாம் தகர்த்து தமிழக மக்களுக்கு நன்மை செய்வோம்.

தமிழ்நாட்டை வாழ விடுவதில்லை என்று மத்திய அரசு செயல்பட்டு வருகிறது. இதை சொல்வதற்கு நான் வேதனைப்படுகிறேன். ஆனால் அதுதான் உண்மைா. தமிழகம் வாழக் கூடாது என்று மத்திய அரசு கருதுகிறது. அப்படித்தான் அது செயல்படுகிறது.

எனவே ஜனநாயகத்துக்குட்பட்டு தமிழக மக்களுக்கு நிச்சயம் நன்மை செய்தே தீருவோம் என்றார். இதைக் கேட்டதும் அதிமுக கூட்டணிக் கட்சிகளின்

உறுப்பினர்கள் மேசைகளைப் பலமாக தட்டி முதல்வரின் பேச்சை வரவேற்றனர்.

அடுத்தடுத்து மத்திய அரசுக்கு கடும் கண்டனம்

நேற்றுதான் சட்டசபையில் கோத்தபயாவின் பேச்சைக் குறிப்பிட்டு முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா மிகக் கடுமையாக பேசினார். அப்போது மத்திய அரசு வாய் மூடி மெளனமாக இருப்பதால்தான் கோத்தபயா போன்றவர்கள் தமிழகத்தை இழித்துப் பேசும் நிலை ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது என்று மத்திய அரசை மிகக் கடுமையாக சாடியிருந்தார்.

இந்த நிலையில் மத்திய அரசு தமிழகத்தை வாழ விடக் கூடாது என்று செயல்பட்டு வருவதாக மிகக் கடுமையான குற்றச்சாட்டை அவர் வைத்துள்ளார். இதனால் பெரும் பரபரப்பு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.

murlee
August 12th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Centre not allowing tamilnadu to survive - Jaya :lol:

Even state government doesn't allow us to survive. Vaalpaarai valarchikku mannenaiyam. endha kaalathula irukaanga ivanga? :) oru naal ingayeum telungana vedikkum. annikku irukku koothu.

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Annaiku than ungaluku unmaiya Deepavali nu nenaikiren!! :)

Arul Murugan
August 12th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Even state government doesn't allow us to survive. Vaalpaarai valarchikku mannenaiyam. endha kaalathula irukaanga ivanga? oru naal ingayeum telungana vedikkum. annikku irukku koothu.



vedikum pothu, tn would be a developed state... so vedikathu....

it is like vedikum aana vedikathu... :lol:

wlbkng
August 12th, 2011, 06:19 PM
devuda, this keeps coming again and again.

Btwn India today ac nielson nationwide polls.


Best cm - narendra modi.

2. Nitish kumar

3. Jayalalitha

Jayalaitha popularity at all time high all over India.

Survey also says Narendra Modi is BJP truimph card, his popularity among muslims high contrary to popular belief.

Not to be surprised if Jaya becomes No.1 CM sending Modi & Nitish down in the rankings in the next two years.. Everyone only wants her to be less egoistic.

Nevertheless, she can speak and act bold. Not like puppet govts.

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 06:23 PM
^^ In my view Nitish might be more acceptable within NDA than Modi or Jaya.

My order of preference is Modi, Nitish, Jaya

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 06:26 PM
vedikum pothu, tn would be a developed state... so vedikathu....

it is like vedikum aana vedikathu... :lol:

appadinna ippa namma developed stateu illiya?

ennapa neenga oru naalu GDP figureu, namitha figureu ellam post senji indha number, size ellam parunga evvalavu bramandama irukku namma than developedn-dreenga innoru naal future-la develop aagumndreenga. Idhukku mela develop aana vedichidum (naan GDP number development / economy overheating pathi sonnen. Neenga vera yedhavathu ninaichidatheenga)

yen ippadi pottu oru manushana confuse pannureenga? Mudeeva enna than solla vareenga? :lol:

Anniyan
August 12th, 2011, 06:28 PM
^^ In my view Nitish might be more acceptable within NDA than Modi or Jaya.

My order of preference is Modi, Nitish, Jaya

Leave your preference. Whom do US prefers? Whom did Hillary come and meet?

Arul Murugan
August 12th, 2011, 06:29 PM
^^

past two days she is bashing the cg in the sattasabhai, it is going to bring problem in getting the funds for the state and CG's role on project clearance. But it would not be a big deal as many of the investment is not from CG(but silaruku, ellamey CG thaanu nenapu :P), but CG may ditch TN in water sharing, power issues etc., now congress man rosaih going to be tn governor to torture the gvt!

better she should stop attacking dmk, and concentrate on wiping out congress from tn in politics front!

Arul Murugan
August 12th, 2011, 06:32 PM
appadinna ippa namma developed stateu illiya?

ennapa neenga oru naalu GDP figureu, namitha figureu ellam post senji indha number, size ellam parunga evvalavu bramandama irukku namma than developedn-dreenga innoru naal future-la develop aagumndreenga. Idhukku mela develop aana vedichidum (naan GDP number development / economy overheating pathi sonnen. Neenga vera yedhavathu ninaichidatheenga)

yen ippadi pottu oru manushana confuse pannureenga? Mudeeva enna than solla vareenga? :lol:

weekend:drool:

vs007
August 12th, 2011, 06:41 PM
English summary


DMDK chief Vijayakanth has told in the TN assembly that Samacheer Kalvi can give clerks and not great people like Abdul Kalam. He highly doubts the effectiveness of this system of education. He appreciates the TN budget as it has lots of good things for the poor.
Thx for the translation!
He is absolutely right, her intentions were right though.


past two days she is bashing the cg in the sattasabhai, it is going to bring problem in getting the funds for the state and CG's role on project clearance.
Amma's finickiness is causing the kids to be deprived of the chocolates.

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 06:42 PM
Leave your preference. Whom do US prefers? Whom did Hillary come and meet?

oruvar iyengar penmani, inorutharu catholic christian penmani. avanga rendu peru yedhukko meet senjittu poranga namakku enna? namakku kalaigner policy than :)

krishnaswamy
August 12th, 2011, 06:46 PM
namakku kalaigner policy than :)
kalaigner policy? you mean "maanada mayilada"

krishnaswamy
August 12th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Its Weekend! time for fun!Read & Relax:
Source (http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/08/11/pmk-first-duty-eliminate-dravidian-parties-ramadoss-aid0091.html)
திராவிடக் கட்சிகளை ஒழித்து விட்டுத்தான் மறு வேலை-டாக்டர் ராமதாஸ் பேச்சு

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 06:55 PM
but silaruku, ellamey CG thaanu nenapu :P!

A sumall correctsion

ellamae CG-thannnu nenappu illai. enga ooruku rejent-a senjathu ellam CG thanu nenapu :)

vs007
August 12th, 2011, 06:56 PM
Its Weekend! time for fun!

The entire TN forum of Chennai autos, Coimbatore Textile city are all having fun with Namitha, SamJoker Anderson.... I am afraid we would be having a long loong weekend in absence of any new projects.

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Anniyan,

They have relationship with bjp. They have relationship with Modi too. wikileaks revealed. now ford has gone there.

Modi is pragmatic politician. doesnt allow past to interfere future. In past smriti irani wanted him removed, and LKA had to shut her up. Now she is actively defending him, became rajya sabha mp from gujarat recently.

Krishna iyer was big time critic of his. When he came for his pa's son marriage in kerala, he visited krishna iyer at his house,

Now krishna iyer praises Modi. So US doesnt need to do anything special for modi, if he becomes pm.

But jaya is total new entity for them. they have to open a channel in case she becomes. hence Hillary visit.

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 06:59 PM
Arul,

Biggest nuisance is Environmental ministry. This ministry can be used to scuttle projects, delay projects, extract funds from onvesting companies.

Its modern version of license quota raj.

Unfortunatley its Jayanthi natarajan in envi ministry now, a close associate of Chidambaram.

This is the issue. her relation with rest of cong guys is fine.

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 07:00 PM
But jaya is total new entity for them. they have to open a channel in case she becomes. hence Hillary visit.

pombalainga pecha ottu ketteengala? #anaagarigam

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 07:01 PM
Kongu,

Since u have not made the remark in this thread so far, I had not replied yet. The idea or notion that whatever coimbatore got is from CG only is wrong one to put it in mild terms.

N.kumar
August 12th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Leaders of various political parties, including the BJP, on Friday expressed solidarity with Tamils in Sri Lanka, saying they will continue to raise their voice until everyone responsible for the “genocide” there are brought to justice.

At a protest rally here organised by MDMK chief Vaiko to protest the Centre’s “silence” on the U.N. report, BJP’s Yashwant Sinha and LJP chief Ram Vilas Paswan criticised the government for citing China’s growing influence as a reason for India’s engagement with Sri Lanka.

Mr. Sinha, who was External Affairs Minister during the NDA regime, criticised Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for his reported remarks that India cannot impose economic sanctions against Sri Lanka as it would encourage China to displace it as a strategic and trading partner of the island nation.

“This shows mere helplessness that we have lost all out clout and friends and that we have to surrender ourselves to China. It is a matter of shame for our country and it is matter of greater shame for the government,” he said.

Dr. Singh, the BJP leader said, made the remarks when Mr. Vaiko met him last week demanding economic sanctions against Sri Lanka.

Mr. Sinha suggested to Mr. Vaiko to organise a rally in Tamil Nadu in which he would also participate.

“I will also join you and we will all set sail for Sri Lanka and go there and tell the world that India is with you.

We will mount an unarmed attack on Sri Lanka. We would like to tell the world that Indians are solidly behind the Eelam Tamils,” he said.

“We are not going to give up till all those people involved in genocide are brought to justice,” Mr. Sinha said.

Ecohing his views, Mr. Paswan said the LJP would raise its voice for the cause of Sri Lankan Tamils both inside and outside Parliament

source http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2350369.ece

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Kongu,

Since u have not made the remark in this thread so far, I had not replied yet. The idea or notion that whatever coimbatore got is from CG only is wrong one to put it in mild terms.

You are partially correct, not everything is because of CG.

Me too putting it mild, more often than not WE (CBE-Tiruppur belt) are self-made :)

SG, hmm does it even exist in true sense?

krishnaswamy
August 12th, 2011, 07:32 PM
in the latest Kumudam-Reporter, "Solvathellam unmai" is about Spectrum-raja
http://www.kumudam.com/magazine/Reporter/2011-08-18/pg6.php
கடந்த இதழில் நம்மிடம் பேசியவரின் மனசாட்சியின் வாக்குமூலம்தான் இந்த இதழிலும் தொடர்கிறது. குறுகிய காலத்தில் நீண்ட வரலாறு படைத்துவிட்டவராதலால் வாக்குமூலமும் நீண்டிருக்கிறது. குடும்பப் பிரச்னையில் உருவாகி, கோஷ்டிப் பூசலாக உருவெடுத்து தேசத்தின் பொருளாதாரப் பிரச்னையாக மாறிவிட்ட நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் இவர்தான் நாயகன். ஒரு நகரச் செயலாளரின் நிழலில் வளர்ந்து நாட்டையே அழிவுப் பாதைக்கு அழைத்துச் சென்ற நல்லவர் இவர். இதோ அவரின் மனசாட்சியின் வாக்குமூலம் தொடர்கிறது.

‘எங்கள் கட்சியைப் பொறுத்தவரை மாவட்ட மந்திரியைவிட மாவட்டச் செயலாளருக்கே மவுசு அதிகம். ஆகவே, மா.செ. போட்டிக்குத்தான் அனைவரும் மல்லுக்கட்டி நிற்பார்கள். அந்தப் பதவி எனக்கு சாதாரணமாகக் கிடைத்தது. வட்டச் செயலாளர் பதவிக்கே வாழ்நாள் முழுவதும் காத்திருக்கும் பலரிருக்க, மாவட்டச் செயலாளர் பதவி என் மடியில் வந்துவிழுந்தது. விடுவேனா? துள்ளிக் குதித்தேன். மற்றவர்களை துவள அடித்தேன். எனவே, எனக்கு எதிரான புகார் மனுக்கள் புறப்படத் தொடங்கின. ஒரு மா.செ.க்கு எதிராக தலைமைக்கு புகார் மனுக்கள் வரலாம். ஆனால், என்னைப் பற்றி புகார் மூட்டைகள்தான் வந்து குவிந்தன. இதுகுறித்து, விசாரிக்க காலஞ்சென்ற ஒலிமுரசு, மூன்றுபேர் கொண்ட ஒரு குழுவை அனுப்பினார்.அந்தக் குழு என் யோக்கியதைகளைப் பட்டியலிட்டுக் கொண்டுவர என்னை மாவட்டத்திலிருந்து மட்டுமல்ல கட்சியிலிருந்தும் நீக்கலாம் என்று எழுதி தலைமைக்கு அனுப்பி வைத்தார். அதுதான் எனக்கும் அந்தக் குடும்பத்திற்கும் முதலில் பகைமை உண்டான பாதை. அன்று முதல் அது அதிகரித்துக் கொண்டே வந்தது. நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் அது விஸ்வரூபமெடுத்து இன்று கட்சியையே கவிழ்த்துப் போட்டிருக்கிறது.

இந்த நிலையில், எங்கள் ஊரைச் சேர்ந்த என் நண்பர் ரயில்வே துறையில் வேலைக்கு ஆட்கள் எடுக்கும் பகுதியில் பணிபுரிந்து வந்தார். ஆசீர்வாதமான அவரை அழைத்து வந்து எனது உதவியாளராக வைத்துக் கொண்டேன். சுமார் பத்து வருடங்கள் எனது ஆசீர்வாதத்தில் வாழ்ந்த அவர், கடைசியில் எனக்கு சாபம் கொடுத்துவிட்டுப் போய்விட்டார். இதற்கிடையில், வாரிசு என்னிடம் அறிமுகமானதும், அவருடன் எனக்கு ஏற்பட்ட நெருக்கமும் ஆசீர்வாதத்திற்குப் பிடிக்கவில்லை. வாரிசுக்கும் ஆசீர்வாதம் தேவைப்படவில்லை. எனவே, அவரை கழற்றிவிடச் சொன்னார். நான் அவரின் வார்த்தைகளை தட்டியதே இல்லை என்பதால், அதையும் செய்தேன்.

நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் கொடுக்கல், வாங்கல் என அனைத்தையும் கவனித்துவந்த அவருக்கு எதுவும் கொடுக்காமல் விரட்டிவிட்டேன். கோபத்துடன் வெளியேறிய அவரின் வாக்குமூலம்தான் இன்று என்னையும் வாரிசையும் வில்லங்கத்தில் மாட்டியிருக்கிறது.

சட்டப்படி ஒன்று, ஜாதகப்படி நான்கு என்பதாக என் இல்லற வாழ்க்கை இயங்கிக் கொண்டிருந்தது. ஏன் இயங்கிக் கொண்டிருந்தது என்று குறிப்பிடுகிறேனென்றால் என் அனுபவம் என்னை அப்படிச் சொல்ல வைக்கிறது. ஒன்றோடு நின்றால்தான் வாழமுடியும். இரண்டு, மூன்று, என்று போய்க்கொண்டிருந்தால் இயங்கிக் கொண்டிருக்கலாமே ஒழிய இனிமை இருக்காது.

இவை ஒருபுறமிருக்க, எங்கள் ஊரில் மத்திய அரசு உதவியில் சிறப்புப் பொருளாதாரத் திட்டம் கொண்டுவர ஒரு திட்டம் போடப்பட்டது. அதாவது, எனக்கு அறிமுகமாகியிருந்த ஐயாகண் என்பவருக்காக இந்தத் திட்டம் நகர்த்தப்பட்டது. அதில் முக்கியமாக இருந்தவர் ஒரு ஐ.ஏ.எஸ். அதிகாரி. அவர் விருப்ப ஓய்வில் ஓடிப்போனதெல்லாம் ஒரு தனிக்கதை. அதைப்பற்றி தனியாகவே உங்களிடம் அவர் பேசுவார்.. அவரின் கைங்கரியத்தில் சுமார் இரண்டாயிரத்தைந்நூறு ஏக்கர் நிலம் ஐயாகண் கம்பெனியின் பெயரில் வாங்கிக் கொடுக்கப்பட்டது. இதுபோன்ற நலத்திட்டங்கள் தேசிய நெடுஞ்சாலையை ஒட்டியே இருக்க வேண்டும் என்பது விதி. ஆனால், இந்தத் திட்டத்திற்கான நிலமோ எட்டு கி.மீ. உள்ளே வாங்கப்பட்டது. காரணம், எனது சகோதரரின் பெயரில் ஏற்கெனவே நாற்பது ஏக்கர் நிலத்தை அங்கே நான் வாங்கிப் போட்டிருக்கேன். எனவே, என் வார்த்தைக்கெல்லாம் சட்டம் வளைந்து கொடுத்த காலமது என்பதால் இதிலும் வளைந்தது. அதேபோல் ஐயாகண்ணுக்கு நான் இந்தத் திட்டத்திற்கான காண்ட்ராக்ட் எடுத்துக் கொடுத்ததற்கு அவரிடம் கட்டிங்காக, இரண்டாயிரத்தைந்நூறு ஏக்கர் நிலத்தில் தனித்துண்டாக இருந்த 194 ஏக்கர் நிலத்தை என் பெயருக்கு எழுதித்தரும்படி கேட்டேன். அவர் மறுக்கவே, சர்ச்சைகள் உருவானது. ஆனாலும் மும்பையில் வைத்து மேற்படி 194 ஏக்கர் நிலத்தை எனது கம்பெனியின் பெயரில் பதிவு செய்து கொண்டேன்.

இது தொடர்பாக பல்வேறு புகார்கள் மத்திய அரசுக்கு அனுப்பப்பட்டது. மத்திய அரசின் அங்கீகாரத்திற்கு முன்பாகவே இப்படி நிலப் பரிவர்த்தனை எதுவும் நடக்கக்கூடாது என்பதால், அந்தத் திட்டம் கிடப்பில் போடப்பட்டது. ஆனால், திட்டத்திற்காக ஏற்கெனவே பணத்தை கோடிக்கணக்கில் அள்ளிக் கொடுத்திருந்த ஐயாகண்ணு அதை திருப்பித் தரும்படி கேட்டார். நம்ம ரூட்டுதான் ஒன்வே ஆச்சே. பணத்தை திருப்பித் தரமுடியாது என்று கூறிவிட்டு, அதை ஈடுகட்ட ஒரு நூற்றியெட்டை அவர் கையில் கொடுத்து, ஓடச் சொல்லிவிட்டேன். அவரின் கம்பெனியின் பெயரில்தான் அவை இயங்கிக் கொண்டிருக்கின்றன.



அடுத்து, தாய்லாந்தில் உள்ளதுபோல் துறைமுகத்துடன் கூடிய கடல் நகரம் ஒன்றை உருவாக்க கோவளம் அருகில் முந்நூறு ஏக்கர் நிலத்தை வாங்கினேன். இறந்துவிட்ட இஸ்லாமிய நண்பர்மூலம் அந்தத் திட்டத்தை அமல்படுத்த நினைத்தேன். அதற்கு மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகள் அனுமதி கொடுக்கவேண்டும். மாநிலத்திலும், மத்தியில் சுற்றுப்புறத்திலும் அனுமதி வாங்கியாகிவிட்டது. ஆனால் கப்பல் துறை மட்டும் அதற்கு மறுப்புத் தெரிவித்தது. காரணம், அந்தத் துறையை கவனித்து வந்தவருக்கும் எனக்கும் டி.ஆர்.பி ரேட்டிங்கில் ஒத்துவராது. எனவே, அதையும் கிடப்பில் போட்டாகிவிட்டது.

அதேபோல் அம்மாவிடமிருந்து ஐயாவிடம் வந்த முன்னாள் சுழல்விளக்கு, எங்கள் ஊரில் ஒரு கல்லூரி நடத்தி வருகிறார். இங்கேயும் அவருக்கு சுழல்விளக்கு வேண்டுமென்று அவர் ஒரு கோரிக்கை வைத்தார். அதற்கு காணிக்கையாக அவரின் கல்லூரி கோரப்பட்டது.அதுகுறித்து பேச்சுவார்த்தை நடத்த நாள் குறித்தோம். அப்போது சுழல்விளக்கின் சார்பாக நானும் கல்லூரி கோரியவர்களின் சார்பாக வாரிசும் பேச்சுவார்த்தையில் உட்கார்ந்தோம். அதுதான் அந்த வாரிசை நான் தனிமையில் நேருக்குநேர் சந்தித்தது. கல்லூரி பேரம் முடிந்த பிறகும் சுழல்விளக்கு கிடைக்காமல் போனதெல்லாம் வேறு கதை. அந்த இடத்திலிருந்து சுமார் மூன்று கி.மீ. தூரத்தில் நான் பெரிய இடத்தை வாங்கிப்போட்டேன். அதில் வாரிசுடன் விளையாடி மகிழ மூன்று கோடியில் வசந்த மாளிகையொன்றைக் கட்டி வைத்தேன். ஆனால், அதில் பால் காய்ச்சும் முன்பே சி.பி.ஐ. எங்களை காய்ச்சி எடுத்துவிட்டது. தெற்கில் செட்டிலாக நினைத்த எங்களை வடக்கிற்கு இழுத்துச் சென்றுவிட்டார்கள்.

நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் ஒரு பக்கம் கோடி, கோடியாக பணம் கொட்டத்தொடங்க, இன்னொரு பக்கம் நான் ரியல் எஸ்டேட்டில் முதலீடு செய்து வந்தேன். முதலில் லோக்கலில் ஆரம்பித்து, பின்னர் ஐதராபாத், டெல்லி என முன்னேறி கடைசியில் ஹாங்காங், பாங்காக், தாய்லாந்து, சிங்கப்பூர், மலேஷியா என என் வியாபாரம் விருத்தியடைந்தது. பசுமையான வீடுகள், சமமான வியாபாரம் என எத்தனையோ பெயர்களில் பிஸினஸ் செய்தேன். இறந்துபோன இஸ்லாமிய நண்பர் மற்றும் என் சகோதரர்கள் ஆகியோரை நிர்வாகிகளாக்கினேன். எனது ரியல் எஸ்டேட் வியாபாரம் உலகில் பல்வேறு நாடுகளுக்குப் பரவ, உலகின் பல்வேறு நாடுகளைச் சேர்ந்த ரியல் எஸ்டேட் வியாபாரிகளின் அறிமுகம் எனக்குக் கிடைத்தது. எனவே, அவர்களையும் நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் பங்கு கொள்ள வைத்தேன். அதாவது, அவர்களின் ரியல் எஸ்டேட் கம்பெனிகளின் பெயரில் நிறமாலைப் பங்குகளை வாங்கி வைத்துக் கொள்வது பின்னர் வேறு கம்பெனிகளுக்கு கொள்ளை லாபத்திற்கு விற்று, லாபத்தை பங்கு போட்டுக் கொள்வது இதுதான் எங்களின் ஓரம்சத் திட்டம். பின்னாளில் எல்லாமே வெளிச்சத்துக்கு வந்தாலும், நிறமாலை விவகாரத்தில் ரியல் எஸ்டேட் வியாபாரிகள் நுழைந்தது எப்படி என்று பலரும் மண்டையைப் பிய்த்துக் கொள்ளும் கேள்விக்கு விடை இதுதான்.
நான் டெல்லிக்குப்போன புதிதில் கையில் சில ஆயிரங்கள் மட்டுமே இருக்கும். அப்போது மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி அனுமதிக் கடிதத்தை டெல்லியில் இருந்து சென்னைக்கு எடுத்து வந்தேன். அந்த வேலைக்காக டெல்லி சுழல் விளக்கின் உலக ரட்சகன் எனக்கு ஒரு லட்ச ரூபாயை எடுத்துக் கொடுத்தார். நான் முதன்முதலில் ஒரு லட்சத்தை முழுசாகப் பார்த்தது அப்போதுதான். அதன்பிறகு, நான் கோடிகளையே லட்சக்கணக்கில் பார்த்த பிறகும்கூட இப்போதும் அந்த ரட்சகனுடன் உற்சாக பானம் அருந்தும்போதெல்லாம் ‘‘அண்ணே நீங்கதாண்ணே எனக்கு முதன் முதலில் பணத்தைக் கொடுத்து ஆசிர்வதிச்சீங்கன்னு’’ சொல்வதை இன்றும் பலர் சொல்லி கேலி செய்வார்கள். சென்னையில் வீடு வாங்க இனிஷியல் பேமெண்டுக்கு ஐந்து லட்ச ரூபாயை அவரிடம் கடனாகக் கேட்டபோது அவர் கொடுக்க மறுத்துவிட்டார் என்பதெல்லாம் பழைய கதை.

அதுமட்டுமின்றி மேடைகளில் பெரியாரிஸ்டாக காட்டிக் கொள்ளும் நான், எந்த மேடையிலேறினாலும் பெரியாரின் கொள்கைகளை மூச்சைப் பிடித்துக்கொண்டு முழங்குவேன். ஆனால், எங்கு வீடுகட்டினாலும் சரி வாஸ்து கரெக்டாக இருக்கும்படி பார்த்துக் கொள்வேன். என் வீட்டிற்குள்ளும் எல்லா சாமிகளின் படங்களும் இருக்கும். எப்போது வெளியில் புறப்பட்டாலும் ரகசியமாக சாமி கும்பிட்டுவிட்டுத்தான் வெளியிலேயே வருவேன். அதாவது, நான் எப்போதும் வெளியில் ஒரு மனிதனாகவும் உள்ளே ஒரு மனிதனாகவும் இருப்பேன் என்பதற்காக இதைக் கூறுகிறேன்.

அதேபோல் இப்போதும் வெளியில் வேறு மனிதனாக வாழ்ந்த என்னை உள்ளே வேறு மனிதனாக வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள்.

ஒரு பக்கம் என்னை எங்கள் சமுதாயப் பிரதிநிதியாகக் காட்ட தலைமை முயற்சித்துக் கொண்டிருக்க, மறுபக்கம் என்னை கட்சியிலிருந்து கழற்றிவிடவே காய்கள் நகர்த்தப்படுகின்றன. என்னால்தான் அவமானம், என்னால்தான் தோல்வி என்பதாக சித்திரிக்கப்படுகிறது. ஆனால், வசூலான பணத்தையெல்லாம் கட்சியின் கருவூலத்தில்தான் கட்டியிருக்கிறேன். போக்குவரத்து செலவுக்காக நான் எடுத்த தொகையே சில ஆயிரங் கோடிகளைத் தொடும், அவ்வளவுதான். இந்த நிலையில் நான் வெளியில் வந்தால் என்ன செய்வது என்பதைவிட வந்தால் வாழமுடியுமா? என்பதே என்முன் நிற்கும் கேள்வி. என் நண்பரைப்போல் சர்ச்சைக்குரிய மரணம் எனக்கும் வந்துவிட்டால் என்ன செய்வது என்ற அச்சம் அடிக்கடி எனக்கு வந்துபோகிறது. ஆனாலும் ஏதோ ஒரு நம்பிக்கையில் எதிர்காலத்தை நோக்கி நகர்ந்து கொண்டிருக்கிறேன்.

தகவல் நேரத்தில் படு பிஸியாக இருந்தாலும் ‘ராஜா... ராஜாதி ராஜனிந்த ராஜா’ என்ற பாடலை சத்தமாகப் பாடிக்கொண்டிருப்பேன்.இப்போதோ ‘ராஜா என்பார், மந்திரி என்பார்’,

பாடலைத்தான் முணுமுணுத்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறேன்.’

Mr.Nellai
August 12th, 2011, 10:46 PM
oruvar iyengar penmani, inorutharu catholic christian penmani. avanga rendu peru yedhukko meet senjittu poranga namakku enna? namakku kalaigner policy than :)

2 wives :lol:

Mr.Nellai
August 12th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Leaders of various political parties, including the BJP, on Friday expressed solidarity with Tamils in Sri Lanka, saying they will continue to raise their voice until everyone responsible for the “genocide” there are brought to justice.

At a protest rally here organised by MDMK chief Vaiko to protest the Centre’s “silence” on the U.N. report, BJP’s Yashwant Sinha and LJP chief Ram Vilas Paswan criticised the government for citing China’s growing influence as a reason for India’s engagement with Sri Lanka.

Mr. Sinha, who was External Affairs Minister during the NDA regime, criticised Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for his reported remarks that India cannot impose economic sanctions against Sri Lanka as it would encourage China to displace it as a strategic and trading partner of the island nation.

“This shows mere helplessness that we have lost all out clout and friends and that we have to surrender ourselves to China. It is a matter of shame for our country and it is matter of greater shame for the government,” he said.

Dr. Singh, the BJP leader said, made the remarks when Mr. Vaiko met him last week demanding economic sanctions against Sri Lanka.

Mr. Sinha suggested to Mr. Vaiko to organise a rally in Tamil Nadu in which he would also participate.

“I will also join you and we will all set sail for Sri Lanka and go there and tell the world that India is with you.

We will mount an unarmed attack on Sri Lanka. We would like to tell the world that Indians are solidly behind the Eelam Tamils,” he said.

“We are not going to give up till all those people involved in genocide are brought to justice,” Mr. Sinha said.

Ecohing his views, Mr. Paswan said the LJP would raise its voice for the cause of Sri Lankan Tamils both inside and outside Parliament

source http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2350369.ece

So finally the momentum starts to build on!

kongutamizhan
August 12th, 2011, 11:05 PM
2 wives :lol:


ahhheemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm #perumoochu

chokka enakillai #thiruvilayadal, #nagesh

wlbkng
August 12th, 2011, 11:06 PM
2 wives :lol:

technically isnt it 3?

Mr.Nellai
August 12th, 2011, 11:46 PM
technically isnt it 3?

Ok :) > 2. Ulakathukku therinju 3, theiryama ethanaiyo? :lol:

Mr.Nellai
August 12th, 2011, 11:56 PM
ahhheemmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm #perumoochu

chokka enakillai #thiruvilayadal, #nagesh

Petcha maathatheenga :)

athu irukkattum chennai la oru paalam katti mudichum innum opening function vaikaama irukkangalaam, sattu puttunu namma namitha ta date vaangi oru functionku erpaadu pannunga:)

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 12:04 AM
^^ petcha mathurana?

oru aanoda manasu innoru aanukku theriyumnu ninaichanae. enakku appadi chance illandra vaitherichal ungallukku puriyalaya?

aiyyago gooopaaaaal

krishnaswamy
August 13th, 2011, 12:17 AM
technically isnt it 3?
unofficially it is more than that!:lol::lol::lol:

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 03:22 AM
The entire TN forum of Chennai autos, Coimbatore Textile city are all having fun with Namitha, SamJoker Anderson.... I am afraid we would be having a long loong weekend in absence of any new projects.

santhula sindhu paduringa...

:lol: for few, projects started by stalin and maran only visible... rest others are nami and sam!

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 03:33 AM
guys get ready for voting Chennai banner coming up on 15th August for Indian Independence day.

Siruseri banner.... owner is our forumer Vicvin86 a.k.a Vinoth.

^^ Cool -
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/15.jpg

we need to do voting here...

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=banner

today kamyanets-podilskiy is there (one can see in the top of the page, which changes everyday), but on 15th aug Chennai will be there... so don't forget to vote.

Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:23 AM
^^ petcha mathurana?

oru aanoda manasu innoru aanukku theriyumnu ninaichanae. enakku appadi chance illandra vaitherichal ungallukku puriyalaya?

aiyyago gooopaaaaal

anni kitta itha solliye aakanum :)

Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:25 AM
^^^^

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:29 AM
Superb cartoon from dinamani

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Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:33 AM
Special court rejects JJ's plea

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Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:38 AM
General opinion poll for Tamil eelam - Vaiko

Paswan: Special ralies will be conducted by his party in in UP, Bihar

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Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 04:43 AM
irukurathu naalu peru; ithu oru katchi? ithula veli nadappu vera?; ivanunga veli nadappu senji enna nadakka pothu :bash:

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thillai_selvan
August 13th, 2011, 07:28 AM
guys get ready for voting Chennai banner coming up on 15th August for Indian Independence day.

Siruseri banner.... owner is our forumer Vicvin86 a.k.a Vinoth.



we need to do voting here...

http://xl.skyscrapercity.com/?page=banner

today kamyanets-podilskiy is there (one can see in the top of the page, which changes everyday), but on 15th aug Chennai will be there... so don't forget to vote.

Aug 15th? OMG! Its a holiday. I can't visit SSC. Like me many of us will not be able to visit SSC. And can't see our chennai banner in SSC. Will it be postpone to the next day? So that every one can see and vote.

murlee
August 13th, 2011, 07:39 AM
Aug 15th? OMG! Its a holiday. I can't visit SSC. Like me many of us will not be able to visit SSC. And can't see our chennai banner in SSC. Will it be postpone to the next day? So that every one can see and vote.

It can't be postponed.. But, don't worry.. U can see the banner on 16th also by clicking the Previous banner option in that page and vote for Chennai banner on that day!

P.S: Give a 5 ;)

thillai_selvan
August 13th, 2011, 07:59 AM
^^ Wow thanks! sure 5+ :cheers:

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 10:17 AM
In what comes as a diplomatic shocker, according to media reports, the Vice-Consul of the US Consulate in Chennai -- Maureen Chao made racist remarks on Friday (August 12) when she narrated to a group of students her experience of a train journey in India two decades ago, when she was a student herself.

According to The New Indian Express in Chennai, while addressing the Semester Abroad Programme orientation in SRM University, Maureen reportedly said, "I was on a 24-hour train trip from Delhi to Orissa. But, after 72 hours, the train still didn't reach the destination.... and my skin became dirty and dark, like the Tamilians." :bash:

The report also added that these remarks from the US diplomat was received with cheers and claps from the students, many of whom were reportedly from the northern states of India. :bash:

Chao reportedly added, "Some 20 years ago, I was a student like you and had an opportunity to do a semester abroad. I chose to come to India, fascinated by the culture and religion. I travelled across villages to understand the culture better. I was amazed at the graciousness and friendliness of the people."

US regrets but no apology

Reacting to the ‘racial’ slur the US expressed regret over Chao’s comments, however, did not apologise for her comments. A statement issued said, “Miss Chao made inappropriate comment and the remark was not intended.â€


http://www.timesnow.tv/US-diplomats-race-shocker/articleshow/4381200.cms

Anniyan
August 13th, 2011, 11:21 AM
No one in the hall had the guts to stand up and object her remarks?

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 11:32 AM
IMO her remark was misinterpreted quite badly.

josephantony
August 13th, 2011, 11:39 AM
GUYS!!!!!!

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Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Alex Chennai banner was selected and it will be up on Aug 15th.

I sent both. The admins selected the one adjusted by Nandan.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/15.jpg

thillai_selvan
August 13th, 2011, 11:48 AM
^^ Vinoth I saw the poll result. But the siruseri is having less number of votes than Ladakh and Gurgoan, Then how it got selected?

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 11:56 AM
^^ That poll is not official I suppose. It was decided that Chennai banner will be in place. However some members were not happy with Chennai and came up all sorts of arguments.

Typical. Its hard to satisfy everyone.

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 12:01 PM
@Thilai Selvan : Its a big story. If you have free time go through this thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=507099&page=149

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 12:04 PM
The report also added that these remarks from the US diplomat was received with cheers and claps from the students, many of whom were reportedly from the northern states of India. :bash:
http://www.timesnow.tv/US-diplomats-race-shocker/articleshow/4381200.cms

Example of Ooru rendu patta koothadiku kondattam. BTW looks like this part has been edited out now.

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Example of Ooru rendu patta koothadiku kondattam. BTW looks like this part has been edited out now.

Govt responds if some one was racially attacked in Australia. But if an US diplomat utters racist comment against Indians in our country, we have to be calm.

Lets see how CG & SG takes up this issue.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 12:22 PM
Could you give a chance to the lady to explain herself before passing judgment? I find it very hard to believe that a diplomat would intentionally insult her own audience, especially when the subject of her talk was about her positive experiences in India.

I think what she meant was that her skin had become dark due to the well-known grime that is part of any railway journey in India, and as a result she thought she had started to look like a "Tamilian". Now this is definitely an ill-thought-out remark, but not necessarily racist. Unless you consider dark skin by itself a bad or negative thing.

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 12:50 PM
^^

dark skin is neither bad nor evil. but whether you accept it or not, it will be projected as racist comment. The difference is that this streotyping was existing within India, now it is used by a U.S diplomat and as usual the central gvt ruled congress gvt will not open its mouth in this issue and they may give bharat ratna award for them in the future.:lol:

Example of Ooru rendu patta koothadiku kondattam. BTW looks like this part has been edited out now.

:lol: yes north indian word is missing in the orginal link now!

Subra
August 13th, 2011, 12:51 PM
Govt responds if some one was racially attacked in Australia. But if an US diplomat utters racist comment against Indians in our country, we have to be calm.

Lets see how CG & SG takes up this issue.

See the disgusting comments from fellow Indians in Times of India. Out country itself is filled with many racists.

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Could you give a chance to the lady to explain herself before passing judgment? I find it very hard to believe that a diplomat would intentionally insult her own audience, especially when the subject of her talk was about her positive experiences in India.

I think what she meant was that her skin had become dark due to the well-known grime that is part of any railway journey in India, and as a result she thought she had started to look like a "Tamilian". Now this is definitely an ill-thought-out remark, but not necessarily racist. Unless you consider dark skin by itself a bad or negative thing.

She is a diplomat in other words spy. Its stupid to think that she has no idea about the audience she addressed. She or none of the embassy officials will be giving any explanation. Instead she will be preparing a report about how polarized the society is how US can exploit it. This will make her a section chief.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 12:57 PM
She is a diplomat in other words spy. Its stupid to think that she has no idea about the audience she addressed. She or none of the embassy officials will be giving any explanation. Instead she will be preparing a report about how polarized the society is how US can exploit it. This will make her a section chief.

Okay. Nice conspiracy theory :)

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Okay. Nice conspiracy theory :)
So you believe she is just a random clerk? Every nations embassy workers are tasked to collect info about the place they are posted. She probably knew the exact number of non-Tamils in the room before uttering those comments.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 01:04 PM
FYI, the embassy has issued an apology as follows:

"During the speech Ms. Chao made an inappropriate comment. Ms. Chao deeply regrets if her unfortunate remarks offended anyone, as that was certainly not her intent".

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 01:11 PM
See the disgusting comments from fellow Indians in Times of India. Out country itself is filled with many racists.

few example.... name is sundaram a typical tamil name!!:lol::lol::bash::ohno:

but these coments are usual one in online words when there is war of words among Indians.

I myself am a native of Kolkata, Bengal (now stationed in Mumbai), fair skinned and am really grateful to Ms Chao for echoing a view which has always been in the minds of us Non-Tamilians (read as True Indians / Aryans) for many decades, which we couldnt express due to dirty political correctness. Tamilians are indeed black and dirty. In my view Tamil Nadu is dirty because its full of Tamilians. Infact the Black Dirty Dravidian Tamilians are the Rakshasas referred to in our Historical Texts.

TShyam
August 13th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Okay. Nice conspiracy theory :)

Thats what every embassy in the world do!! It is naive to think otherwise. As far as the actual controversy goes, the embassy has regretted it and it is good to bury the issue. Continuing it will make us sore losers.

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 01:13 PM
@ comment posted by Arul ^^ I bet that guy makes a living in TN under Tamil superiors.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Anyways, if anyone takes comments on youtube/news websites seriously or replies to them, then I guess they will lead a very unhappy existence :lol:

Usually people who are frustrated with their own lives try to feel better by intentionally offending/insulting. We have a name for it here on SSC - it's called "trolling"

Anniyan
August 13th, 2011, 01:18 PM
See the disgusting comments from fellow Indians in Times of India. Out country itself is filled with many racists.


What do you say about this? See the 4th line.

http://i56.tinypic.com/6ns8l0.jpg

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Example of Ooru rendu patta koothadiku kondattam. BTW looks like this part has been edited out now.

Why was that sentence put there in the first place? Which state were the "North Indians" from? Maharashtra? MP? UP? West Bengal? J&K? Chhattisgarh? Are all the people in all those states white skinned or something?

Looks like the reporter was from Tamil Nadu himself/herself, and put in that sentence as an emotional reaction.

TShyam
August 13th, 2011, 01:24 PM
IBN, Indian express all have that sentence. Actually only Times now has deleted it!

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 01:26 PM
That probably means they all copied the same report, from PTI (?)

joefernando
August 13th, 2011, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=Arul Murugan;82840250]guys get ready for voting Chennai banner coming up on 15th August for Indian Independence day.

Siruseri banner.... owner is our forumer Vicvin86 a.k.a Vinoth.



we need to do voting here...


^^this building is behind our university AMET , its in muttukad. 28 floors are there in the building.. and this is the tallest building in chennai..

TShyam
August 13th, 2011, 01:36 PM
That probably means they all copied the same report, from PTI (?)

Maybe.. But the wordings are different. Humans are inherently racist, so I am not at all surprised. Anyway, lets move on..

Subra
August 13th, 2011, 01:48 PM
What do you say about this? See the 4th line.

http://i56.tinypic.com/6ns8l0.jpg

An other racist comment. These guys create Kashmirs in every corner of this country. Ordinary people trun racist after reading these comments. It will very difficult for this country to prosper or be united if this situation continues.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Really? Some online comment will create a "Kashmir"? I don't think you understand the gravity of what you're saying here.

Raji7373
August 13th, 2011, 02:25 PM
Alex Chennai banner was selected and it will be up on Aug 15th.

Though I voted for Chennai banner, I feel it does not look stunning.

Because of the unfinished building & also TCS does not look that great in this photo...when compared to other TCS photos which are in our forum..

Why can't they select some stunning photos ...which has appered in Chennai forum..

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 02:27 PM
You know, there is real injustice happening in this country. Protesting farmers are being shot, people are being denied basic rights and services, criminals are being protected and honest people are being jailed/beaten up/murdered.

Perhaps people who are getting all insulted should focus on real issues rather than get involved in meaningless controversies.

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 02:31 PM
You know, there is real injustice happening in this country. Protesting farmers are being shot, people are being denied basic rights and services, criminals are being protected and honest people are being jailed/beaten up/murdered.

Perhaps people who are getting all insulted should focus on real issues rather than get involved in meaningless controversies.

Just as frustrated IT workers take up blogs, interviews etc, the remaining frustrated in their own job should take up the issues mentioned above.

Brand coimbatore
August 13th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Govt responds if some one was racially attacked in Australia. But if an US diplomat utters racist comment against Indians in our country, we have to be calm.

Lets see how CG & SG takes up this issue.

We should see to that this lady is ousted from chennai embassy. she has no justification for being in tamil land and dirt her white skin:bash::bash:

Indian Sun
August 13th, 2011, 02:49 PM
What's the brouhaha about ?

Just because some maida-maavu made an ignorant crack about us, we have to get worked up ?

We are one of the most developed states of India. Also much cleaner than many other states (I hate to compare). We really need not be affected by these people and their in-house chamchas.

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 02:49 PM
I really need to know what happened in SRM during her speech. None of people known to me currently study there. I will try to get some info though..

If anyone's friends/relatives are studying there, please gather the information.

Indian Sun
August 13th, 2011, 02:54 PM
What's the brouhaha about ?

Just because some maida-maavu made an ignorant crack about us, we have to get worked up ?

We are one of the most developed states of India. Also much cleaner than many other states (I hate to compare). We really need not be affected by these people and their in-house chamchas.

I don't fancy fair skin, I'd rather be dark and dirty, thank you.

Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 03:14 PM
What's the brouhaha about ?

Just because some maida-maavu made an ignorant crack about us, we have to get worked up ?

We are one of the most developed states of India. Also much cleaner than many other states (I hate to compare). We really need not be affected by these people and their in-house chamchas.

I don't fancy fair skin, I'd rather be dark and dirty, thank you.

+1
:applause:

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 03:18 PM
We are one of the most developed states of India. Also much cleaner tha

n many other states (I hate to compare).

aaha !! kilambitangayya kilambitaanga :)

satishanu
August 13th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Surprising to see the comment from her at the time when US itself ruled by a Black president. If she made that comment in US, she would be certainly ousted.

+1 @ Indian_Sun comment.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 03:50 PM
...some maida-maavu...

This is racist. You should apologize to all fair-skinned people. :ohno:

ceeznic pirate
August 13th, 2011, 04:10 PM
England won by an innings and 242 runs :bash:

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 04:12 PM
^^ It would have been Innings and 400 runs. Indian batting is improving, we are going to thrash them in the last test and may be get the No 1 title.

ceeznic pirate
August 13th, 2011, 04:17 PM
^^
very optimistic! lets see :)

N.kumar
August 13th, 2011, 04:19 PM
as per news reports atheist Periyardasan has now converted to islam in saudi arabia.

is he still coming in vanga pesalam vanga in vijay tv?

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 04:19 PM
^^ Indian team plays well when most of us switch off TV sets...

Indian Sun
August 13th, 2011, 04:35 PM
This is racist. You should apologize to all fair-skinned people. :ohno:

Offend and let offend, that's my policy.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 04:40 PM
Tell me Indian Sun. You spent time in Rajasthan. Did you find the people there - common people - to be especially fair?

Indian Sun
August 13th, 2011, 04:43 PM
^^ No. The common people are pretty sun burnt. The opulent are fair-skinned.

But friendly people. There was a massive attitude transition from Delhi to Haryana to Rajasthan. (ehhrr)

Just my opinion.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 04:47 PM
There is this whole mythology being developed that people living above a certain latitude are clones of snow-white, all look like Katrina Kaif etc. etc. :lol:

This is gives a decent idea of what the average farmer person in Maharashtra looks like.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2373/1716326101_bef9d82f0f_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5263903642_a2e0179451_z.jpg

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 04:52 PM
as per news reports atheist Periyardasan has now converted to islam in saudi arabia.

is he still coming in vanga pesalam vanga in vijay tv?

very old news. he converted long back (atleast a year back if not longer)

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 05:03 PM
@MM leave that issue.

Fair skinned or dark skinned? who is more corrupt in India now? We've got battle of equals here, with slight advantage to fair skinned ones :lol:

Indian Sun
August 13th, 2011, 05:13 PM
@MM leave that issue.

Fair skinned or dark skinned? who is more corrupt in India now?

Point.

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 05:39 PM
ok this is the version I heard from a friend in India who heard it from his friend who heard it from someone that actually heard the speech :)

Initially many in the auditorium didn't take it an offense as they got the gist of what she was trying to convey. Even SRM university vice-chancellor says the same (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/us-diplomat-regrets-her-dirty-dark-remark-on-tamilians/articleshow/9592511.cms)

My personal opinion, media tweaked the phrase, removed the punctuation and blew it to out-of-proposition if those reports are to be believed. Definitely we got to give the benefit of doubt in favor of Maureen here.

What she quoted as per that source was "that she became dirty with dust, and dark like Tamils". I for one don't find anything wrong in this comment. Please read the phrase carefully again and again with emphasis on the punctuations. That's what I think she meant. Having enough experience working with offshore teams I completely understand how the communication works here on both sides :lol:

And for our media, hey they got few days worth material here for debate. C'mon Nidhi, Barka, Rajdeep, Gopinath & Co., I am expecting more from you folks..

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM
^^That's what I thought :)

Also, a lot of people in India consider it insulting to be called "dark". That's thanks to our pervasive obsession with looking fair and being identified as fair. That is what gave rise to the misinterpretation, IMO.

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 06:08 PM
as per news reports atheist Periyardasan has now converted to islam in saudi arabia.

is he still coming in vanga pesalam vanga in vijay tv?

from seshachalam to periyardhasan to siddarthan(buddhism) to dr.abdullah..

seems very confused in his ideologies. nevertheless i have been to some of his speeches, was interesting.

yet it is his own right..

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 06:17 PM
^^That's what I thought :)

Also, a lot of people in India consider it insulting to be called "dark". That's thanks to our pervasive obsession with looking fair and being identified as fair. That is what gave rise to the misinterpretation, IMO.

We got to ban fair & lovely and likes (beauty products) ads first. They have racial tone and intention and are more dangerous to the society than a light-hearted / jovial speech

ranga
August 13th, 2011, 06:25 PM
ok this is the version I heard from a friend in India who heard it from his friend who heard it from someone that actually heard the speech :)

Initially many in the auditorium didn't take it an offense as they got the gist of what she was trying to convey. Even SRM university vice-chancellor says the same (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/us-diplomat-regrets-her-dirty-dark-remark-on-tamilians/articleshow/9592511.cms)

My personal opinion, media tweaked the phrase, removed the punctuation and blew it to out-of-proposition if those reports are to be believed. Definitely we got to give the benefit of doubt in favor of Maureen here.

What she quoted as per that source was "that she became dirty with dust, and dark like Tamils". I for one don't find anything wrong in this comment. Please read the phrase carefully again and again with emphasis on the punctuations. That's what I think she meant. Having enough experience working with offshore teams I completely understand how the communication works here on both sides :lol:

And for our media, hey they got few days worth material here for debate. C'mon Nidhi, Barka, Rajdeep, Gopinath & Co., I am expecting more from you folks..

OK she became dirty with dust and dark at this place WHY should she say "Like Tamils".This is a derogatory statement against the tamils.Will she be able to get away making such racist comments against her own country's black population.she would have been pulverised.Offshore rubbed guys like Kongutamizhan would try to explain away lightly but majority of the tamils like me will not just swallow such insults.

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Maybe because she was in Tamil Nadu and most of the audience were probably Tamils? :|

Again, your feeling of being insulted is based on the assmption that being dark is a negative thing.

If that is the case, then perhaps it would be better to correct your own biases before accusing others, isn't it?

Secondly, this:

her own country's black population.

is rubbish. Tamils are not analogus to African Americans any more than Biharis or Oriyas or Bengalis or Marathis are.

murlee
August 13th, 2011, 06:34 PM
ProudArabian would have loved this!!

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 06:36 PM
OK she became dirty with dust and dark at this place WHY should she say "Like Tamils".This is a derogatory statement against the tamils.Will she be able to get away making such racist comments against her own country's black population.she would have been pulverised.Offshore rubbed guys like Kongutamizhan would try to explain away lightly but majority of the tamils like me will not just swallow such insults.

Look at the intention behind the speech and what kind of forum the speech was made. For god's sake understand that it was meant to be speech about her positive experiences here and she is a diplomat working on our soil and not a fool to make such open insults.

Yes she said "dark like tamils". Why is that offensive? Are we not? If the intention was to insult us by using the word "dark" I see your point. In this case the intention is not to insult us. Also like MM said dark is not an insult. We are made to think so, again thanks to our commercial ads and our obsession with fair skin.

Of-course being a diplomat she should have been conscious about the words she uses in public and should have sensed mis-interpretation at the first place and could have avoided that entirely. That's a different issue.

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Punctuations! A very easy excuse to get rid of whatever comments made.

Trying to defend the incidents by giving a justification is mere downplaying.

Calling dark skinned may or may not be offensive to someone. Why she has to mention about cleanliness - colour - "particular community" in a same sentence?

Again do not try to justify by punctuations. She is American. She is a diplomat. She knows how to speak English and how to frame a sentence. If some one of us justifies it, we are trying to make fool of ourselves.

I cannot lose my self respect and identity trying to defend her words. Neither I can rub off the comments and move on as I cannot act as having 5 senses only in this issue.

She owes an apology and should be transferred elsewhere. Wondering if she would have guts to talk the same thing in Alabama or North Carolina?

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 06:51 PM
According to her story she didn't even travel to TN. Her train journey was from Delhi to Orissa. So perhaps you should be concerned about the cleanliness of the people between Delhi and Orissa.

That's another reason why the "dirty" part couldn't have applied to Tamils.

It was clearly a joke regarding her own appearance after a long train journey in India's grimy trains, though perhaps in poor taste.

But it definitely doesn't merit the kind of outrage and accusations of racism. That is a purely media-concocted controversy of the day.

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 06:57 PM
^^ Obviously I am concerned. A foreign person has no rights to comment about cleanliness of anyone in our country. But does that mean people from all over India(or at the least from her story of Delhi to Orissa) get concerned and appeal for her removal?

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 07:03 PM
Again do not try to justify by punctuations. She is American. She is a diplomat. She knows how to speak English and how to frame a sentence. If some one of us justifies it, we are trying to make fool of ourselves.


You would be surprised to know how bad Americans are in communicating especially in a diversified environment. This is despite that their first language is English and they are communicating in English.

They are doubly cautious in making remarks on African-american population in US or in Africa because they are raised that way (and because of the history). They don't excercise such caution when it comes to others even Hispanic

If you want to lose sleep over the lost self-respect and feel insulted because of this statement how about the explicit racist statements of our ex-CM in open? What about the explicit actions like building a wall within same city / ward like this (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2266854.ece)? Did we every try to make an issue out of it with a nation (or statewide) debate? Did you ever lose sleep over a lost self-respect when it comes to such issues?

Forum, background and intention matters. If I were a diplomat I would have avoided that remark at the first place and would have been more careful. She needs a class in communication and not bashing!!

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 07:07 PM
An other racist comment. These guys create Kashmirs in every corner of this country. Ordinary people trun racist after reading these comments. It will very difficult for this country to prosper or be united if this situation continues.

Really? Some online comment will create a "Kashmir"? I don't think you understand the gravity of what you're saying here.

few personal experience will definetly put the state hood(though created from 1950) or language or regional feelings above the 1947 derived nationality!

I guess subra meant the same.

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Look at the intention behind the speech and what kind of forum the speech was made. For god's sake understand that it was meant to be speech about her positive experiences here and she is a diplomat working on our soil and not a fool to make such open insults.

Yes she said "dark like tamils". Why is that offensive? Are we not? If the intention was to insult us by using the word "dark" I see your point. In this case the intention is not to insult us. Also like MM said dark is not an insult. We are made to think so, again thanks to our commercial ads and our obsession with fair skin.

Of-course being a diplomat she should have been conscious about the words she uses in public and should have sensed mis-interpretation at the first place and could have avoided that entirely. That's a different issue.

dark might have not triggered the issue! It is about the dirt...:nuts: b/w aal manasula irukaruthu thanae veliya varum! she meant karuppa irukuruvanga ellam dirtya irupanganu! nama climate ku karuppo velaiyo, daily kulichaganum! but cold countries la velaiya iruntha thevaiya illai... avangellam athai thanae seiyuranga, then how come black = tamils = dirty??:lol:

and I like your post as justification view from americal diplomat side. :)

Marathaman
August 13th, 2011, 07:15 PM
few personal experience will definetly put the state hood(though created from 1950) or language or regional feelings above the 1947 derived nationality!

Incidentally, this happened only a few days back:

Australian radio host calls India 'shit hole', Ganga a 'junkyard' (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-01/other-news/29838011_1_radio-station-junkyard-sacred-river)

I don't recall any outrage in Arattai Arangam :dunno:. So perhaps the 1950-derived statehood is above 1947-derived nationalism already! :|

Perhaps if some people don't want to be a part of India then they should come out and say it openly.

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 07:24 PM
and I like your post as justification view from americal diplomat side. :)

if I ever get into TN politics you now know how to oppose me. you can call me a CIA agent :)

Arul Murugan
August 13th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Incidentally, this happened only a few days back:

Australian radio host calls India 'shit hole', Ganga a 'junkyard' (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-01/other-news/29838011_1_radio-station-junkyard-sacred-river)

I don't recall any outrage in Arattai Arangam :dunno:. So perhaps the 1950-derived statehood is above 1947-derived nationalism already! :|

You got it wrong... the patriotism towards the nationalism is no way less in tn comparing to other states. For kargil fund or GJ bhuj earthquake the donation collection from tn was the highest in terms of money.

the context of statehood above 1947 nationalism is under different condition... thats why i have mentioned about personal experiance. To be frank, now I dont have the same LEVEL of affinity or patriotism on the nationality like the one in school days!

wlbkng
August 13th, 2011, 07:38 PM
You would be surprised to know how bad Americans are in communicating especially in a diversified environment. This is despite that their first language is English and they are communicating in English.

First, just because she has done this mistake, its not fair to brand Americans as a whole are poor in communicating among a diversified environment.

If you want to lose sleep over the lost self-respect and feel insulted because of this statement how about the explicit racist statements of our ex-CM in open? What about the explicit actions like building a wall within same city / ward like this (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2266854.ece)? Did we every try to make an issue out of it with a nation (or statewide) debate? Did you ever lose sleep over a lost self-respect when it comes to such issues?

A perfect example is Uthapuram. Wasn't that wall demolished? Was not there very wide spread debate and support from all parts of TN? No wonder this will also get solved.

I am concerned about all these inequality issues, I have openly expressed it through my blog. (Though I don't want to talk about my personal blogs, but still an answer to your question regarding my stand on such issues. I can also talk to you through PM if you would like regarding the other things which I do on my part to eliminate social inequalities in and around my neighbourhood and family in TN, though i'm in early 20s- just to mention that I don't just talk in public forums but also do something meaningful on the background)

Forum, background and intention matters. If I were a diplomat I would have avoided that remark at the first place and would have been more careful. She needs a class in communication and not bashing!!

Perhaps a bashing and then a class in communication.

Sometimes, you have to be tough in teaching lessons so that we are indirectly teaching to others who are ignorant and illiterate about behaving in a foreign land.

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Couldn't stop laughing after reading this :lol:

Source (http://www.vikatan.com/article.php?aid=9170&sid=255&mid=1)

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வெள்ளியங்கிரியை ஞாபகம் இருக்கிறதா? நம்ம வடக்கலூர் வெள்ளியங்கிரி. இன்னமும் தெரியலையா? அட, 'ஜெயலலிதா’ வெள்ளியங்கிரி? ஆங்... அவரேதான்!

''வணக்கம் சீமான். நான் ஜெயலலிதா பேசுறேன். உங்க சமீபத்திய நடவடிக்கைகள் எல்லாம் மிகச் சிறப்பாக இருக்கின்றன. நீங்க நடிச்ச 'மாயாண்டி குடும்பத்தார்’ படத்தை இப்போதான் பார்த்தேன். மிகச் சிறப்பாக நடித்துஇருந்தீர்கள். என் வாழ்த்துக்கள்!''என்று அச்சு அசல் ஜெயலலிதா குரலில் சீமானுக்குப் பேசி பரபரப்பு கிளப்பிய பார்ட்டி. இப்போது என்ன செய்கிறார் வெள்ளியங்கிரி?

''நான் அ.தி.மு.க. இளைஞர் பாசறையில் வடக்கலூர் பகுதிச் செயலாளராக இருக்கேங்க (பார்றா... இது அம்மாவுக்குத் தெரியுமா?) ஊர்ல கேபிள் டிவி லைன் மேனா இருக்கேன். அம்மா ரெண்டாவது தடவையா முதல்வரா இருந்தப்போ, அவங்க பேச்சை ஜெயா டி.வி-யில் கேட்டுக் கேட்டு, அதேபோல பேசிப் பயிற்சி எடுத்தேன். வாய்ஸ் நல்லா வொர்க் அவுட் ஆச்சு. சீமான் நம்பர் கிடைக்கவும் சும்மா அவருக்கு போன் போட்டேன். அம்மா வாய்ஸ்ல பேசவும் பதறிட்டாரு. குழம்பிட்டே இருந்துருப்பாராட்டம் இருக்கு. மூணு நாள் கழிச்சு திரும்பக் கூப்பிட்டார். 'சொல்லுங்க சீமான்... ஏதாவது முக்கியமான விஷயமா?’னு கேட்டதும் எதுவும் பேசாம டக்குனு வெச்சிட்டாரு. சீமான்கிட்ட நம்பர் வாங்கி, பாடகி சித்ரா எனக்கு போன் பண்ணாங்க. 'ஜெயலலிதா ஹியர்’னு நான் சொன் னதும் சித்ராவுக்கு வார்த்தையே வரலை. 'அம்மா ரெண்டே ரிங்ல போனை எடுப்பீங்கனு நான் நினைக்கவே இல்லை’னு படபடப்பாப் பேசினாங்க. 'எத்தனை ரிங்னு நான் எண்றது இல்லை சித்ரா. நீங்க பேசினது சந்தோஷமா இருக்கு’னு சொன்னேன். அதுக்கு மேல என்ன பேசுறதுனு தெரியலை. 'இன்னிக்கு சண்டேங்கிறதால நான் கார்டன்ல ரெஸ்ட் எடுத்துட்டு இருக்கேன். இன்னொரு சந்தர்ப்பத்துல பேசுங்க’னு சொல்லி வெச்சுட்டேன். சில நம்பர்ல இருந்து மிஸ்டு கால் வரும். திருப்பிக் கூப்பிட என்கிட்ட பேலன்ஸ் இருக்காது. அதுவும் இல்லாம, மிஸ்டு கால் பார்த்துட்டுத் திரும்பக் கூப்பிட்டா, எப்படி அம்மானு நம்புவாங்கனு கண்டுக்காம விட்டுருவேன்!''

''கட்சிக்காரங்க யாராவது பேசுவாங்களா?''

''ஏகப்பட்ட பேர்கிட்ட என் நம்பர் போயிருச்சு. ஆனா, பயமோ என்னமோ... யாரும் போன் பண்ணலை. 'குட் மார்னிங் அம்மா’, 'குட் நைட் அம்மா’னு மெசேஜ் மட்டும் வரும். எழுத்துக் கூட்டிப் படிக்கவே எனக்குக் கஷ்டம். அப்புறம் எங்கே நான் பதில் அனுப்புறது? திருநெல்வேலியில இருந்து ஒருத்தர் மட்டும் தைரியமா போன் பண்ணி, மாவட்டச் செயலாளர் பத்தி புகார் சொன்னாரு. 'எனக்கு இப்படி எல்லாம் நேரடியா போன் பண்ணக் கூடாது. எந்தப் புகாரா இருந்தாலும், கார்டனுக்கு அனுப் புங்க. நிச்சயம் நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கிறேன். இனி போன் பண்ணினா, உங்களைக் கட்சியைவிட்டே நீக்கிடுவேன்’னு சொன்ன தும் பதறி அழுதுட்டாரு. அப்புறம் தினமும் நாலு 'ஸாரிம்மா’ மெசேஜ் அனுப்பிட்டே இருந்தாரு.

விழுப்புரத்துல இருந்து ஒன்றியச் செயலாளர் 'அம்மா..’னு நடுங்கிகிட்டே பேசினார். சிரிச்சுக்கிட்டே 'சொல்லுங்க ரத்தத்தின் ரத்தமே’னு பேசினேன். கொஞ்ச நேரம் அந்தப் பக்கம் இருந்து எந்தச் சத்தமும் வரலை. 'என்ன ஆச்சு?’னு கேட்டதும், 'அம்மா உங்க குரலைக் கேட்டதும் போனை கீழே வெச்சு சாஷ்டாங்கமா விழுந்து கும்பிட்டுட்டு இருந்தேன்மா’னு சொன்னாரு. 'உங்க சேவை கட்சிக்குத் தேவை. உற்சாகமாக வேலை பாருங்க’னு சொல்லி வெச்சுட்டேன்!''

''போலீஸ் விசாரணையில் என்ன நடந்தது?''

''எல்லா அதிகாரிங்களும் சுத்தி நின்னுக்கிட்டு அம்மா மாதிரி பேசிக் காட்டச் சொன்னாங்க. 'தம்பி வெள்ளியங்கிரி, என் மீது உள்ள பற்று காரணமாக இப்படிப் பேசிவிட்டார். அவரை மன்னித்து, ரெண்டு போண்டாவும், டீயும் வாங்கிக் கொடுத்து, உடனே வீட்டுக்கு அனுப்பிவைக்க உத்தரவிடுகிறேன். தேவைப்பட்டால், அவருக்கு வழிச்செலவுக்குப் பணம் கொடுக்கவும் ஆணை இடுகிறேன்’னு பேசினதும் எல்லாரும் சிரிச்சுட்டாங்க. போண்டாவும் டீயும் வாங்கிக் கொடுத்தாங்க.

'ரொம்ப நல்லவங்களா இருக்காங் களே’னு சந்தோஷப்பட்டேன். 'இனிமே, அம்மா வாய்ஸ்ல யாருக்கும் போன் பண்ண மாட்டேன்’னு எழுதி வாங்கிட்டு, என்கிட்டே இருந்த மொபைல் போனைப் பிடுங்கிட்டாங்க. இப்போ வரை செல் வாங்கக் காசு சேரலை. அம்மாவே செல்போன் வெச்சுக்கிறது இல்லையாம். அப்புறம் நமக்கு மட்டும் எதுக்கு செல்போன்னு பேசாம இருக்கேன்!''

''கல்யாணத்துக்கு பொண்ணு பார்க்கிறாங்களா?''

''அந்தக் கொடுமையை ஏன் கேட்குறீங்க? சில இடங்களில் பொண்ணு பார்க்கப் போனப்ப, என்னை அம்மா மாதிரி பேசிக் காட்டச் சொன்னாங்க. நானும் விவரம் இல்லாம, பொண்ணுக்குப் பிடிக்குமேனு பேசிக் காட்டினேன். எல்லாரும் கை தட்டிட்டு, சொல்லி அனுப்புறோம்னு அனுப்பிடுறாங்க. அப்புறம் எந்தத் தகவலும் வர்றதில்லை. இப்போதைக்குக் கல்யாணம் ஆகாதுனு தோணுதுங்க. எனக்கு ஒரே ஒரு ஆசை தான். அம்மாவை ஒரு தடவை நேர்ல பார்த்து, அவங்க முன்னாடியே அவங்க குரலில் பேசிக் காட்டிச் சிரிக்கவைக்கணும். அது போதும் எனக்கு!''

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Perhaps a bashing and then a class in communication.

Sometimes, you have to be tough in teaching lessons so that we are indirectly teaching to others who are ignorant and illiterate about behaving in a foreign land.

hmm what about local leaders who are fanning racist thoughts and not behaving in public / media releases? no tough action or communication classes needed?

So you accept motivated mollamarithanam, mudichavukkithanam and racism if done by a person speaking your language against the sub-divisions of those that speak your language. In those scenarios I haven't seen you voice your opinions here. Why? Is it because the perpetrators belong to your "linguistic" group? But you never hesitate to point out anything outsider (a non-tamil) does against your language speaking people in this forum (even if it is difficult to prove the motivation). Are you against racism or only against racism perpetrated by folks outside your "linguistic" group?

For you language groupism might be important. Likewise for others it is nationalism, regionalism, religion, casteism. Different strokes different folks.

Above all these groups what matters is applying rational thoughts before arriving at conclusions. And that rationalism is definitely not dravidian pagutharivu. I am talking about the true rationalism :)

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 08:19 PM
hmm what about local leaders who are fanning racist thoughts and not behaving in public / media releases? no tough action or communication classes needed?


I am not defending them but there is a difference between them and a foreign spy.

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 08:27 PM
^^ local racists are more dangerous because they affect you and me directly and they are in power.

And how did you come to a conclusion that she is a foreign spy?

Mr.Nellai
August 13th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Incidentally, this happened only a few days back:

Australian radio host calls India 'shit hole', Ganga a 'junkyard' (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-01/other-news/29838011_1_radio-station-junkyard-sacred-river)

I don't recall any outrage in Arattai Arangam :dunno:. So perhaps the 1950-derived statehood is above 1947-derived nationalism already! :|

Perhaps if some people don't want to be a part of India then they should come out and say it openly.

Once again repeat audience ah:) We had the discussion few pages back.

Vicvin86
August 13th, 2011, 08:32 PM
^^ We have control over the locals. They get screwed in elections.
She works in an Embassy and hope you know what the tasks of those who work there.

kongutamizhan
August 13th, 2011, 08:35 PM
^^ We have control over the locals. They get screwed in elections.

hah!! elections in TN are hardly won by exposing racist remarks. In fact they are won by fanning and dividing people by race.

And what control we exercised against MK or kunju mani? And what for PMK shouted against Amitabh's movie today? Didn't it all have racial overtones?