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Kunil143

November 3rd, 2011, 09:20 AM

சென்னை : தமிழகத்தில் 60 ஆண்டுகளுக்குப் பின், குழந்தைகளுக்காக மீண்டும் ஒரு அரசு மருத்துவமனை அமைக்கப்படுவதை, மருத்துவத் துறையினரும், பெற்றோரும் வரவேற்றுள்ளனர்.

சென்னை, கோட்டூர்புரத்தில் உள்ள அண்ணா நூற்றாண்டு நூலகத்தை, நுங்கம்பாக்கம் டி.பி.ஐ., வளாகத்துக்கு மாற்றிவிட்டு, அந்த இடத்தில் உயர் சிறப்பு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனை அமைக்கப்படும் என, முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா அறிவித்துள்ளார். முதல்வரின் இந்த அறிவிப்பை, மருத்துவத் துறையினர் வரவேற்றுள்ளனர். தற்போது எழும்பூரில் உள்ள குழந்தைகள் நல அரசு மருத்துவமனை, 1948ல் துவக்கப்பட்டது. 60 ஆண்டுகளுக்குப் பிறகு, அரசு சார்பில் இப்போது தான் குழந்தைகளுக்காக தனி அரசு மருத்துவமனை துவக்கப்படுகிறது.

சென்னை மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி முதல்வர் கனகசபை இது குறித்து கூறியதாவது: தேசிய அளவில் ஒப்பிடும் போது, தமிழகத்தில் குழந்தைகளின் இறப்பு விகிதம் மிகக் குறைவாக உள்ளது. இதை மேலும் குறைப்பதற்கு, இந்த புதிய உயர் சிறப்பு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனை மிகவும் உதவியாக இருக்கும். பச்சிளம் குழந்தைகளைத் தாக்கும் நோய்களுக்கு, சிறப்பு சிகிச்சை வசதிகள் அவசியம். எழும்பூரில் உள்ள அரசு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனை 60 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன் அமைக்கப்பட்டது. ஆனால், இப்போது மக்கள் தொகை அதிகரித்துள்ளதோடு, சென்னை நகரமும் விரிவாக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. எனவே, இந்த வெற்றிடத்தை நிரப்ப புதிய மருத்துவமனை உதவியாக இருக்கும். தமிழகம் மருத்துவத் துறையில் முன்னணி மாநிலமாகத் திகழ்கிறது. அதற்கு, இப்புதிய மருத்துவமனை மேலும் சிறப்பு சேர்க்கும். இவ்வாறு கனகசபை கூறினார்.

கீழ்ப்பாக்கம் மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி முதல்வர் கீதாலெட்சுமி கூறும்போது, "பெரியவர்களைப் போலவே குழந்தைகளுக்கான சிறப்பு சிகிச்சை பிரிவுகளும், நாளுக்கு நாள் கூடிக் கொண்டே வருகின்றன. நல்ல சுற்றுச்சூழலில், குழந்தைகளுக்கு இதுபோல சிறப்பு மருத்துவமனை வருவது வரவேற்கக் கூடியது' என்றார்.

குழந்தை நல மருத்துவமனை முன்னாள் இயக்குனர் டாக்டர் கோபால் கூறும் போது, "எழும்பூர் மருத்துவமனையில் உள்ள நெரிசலைக் குறைக்க, புதிய மருத்துவமனை மிகவும் உதவியாக இருக்கும். சிறப்பு சிகிச்சை வசதிகள் செய்யும் போது, மாநிலத்தில் உள்ளவர்களுக்கு மட்டுமல்ல, அண்டை மாநிலத்தவருக்கும் பயனுள்ளதாக இருக்கும்' என்றார்.

பெயர் வெளியிட விரும்பாத மருத்துவ அதிகாரி ஒருவர் கூறியதாவது: மேலும் ஒரு அரசு குழந்தைகள் மருத்துவமனை வேண்டும் என்பது உண்மை தான். ஆனால், தேர்வு செய்துள்ள இடம் சரியா என்பது விவாதத்துக்குரிய விஷயம். எழும்பூர் குழந்தைகள் நல மருத்துவமனைக்கு, வட சென்னை மற்றும் எல்லைப் பகுதியில் உள்ள ஆந்திர மாநிலத்தவர்களே அதிகம் வருகின்றனர். இவர்கள் கோட்டூர்புரம் சென்று வர, போதிய போக்குவரத்து வசதிகள் இல்லை. மேலும், இப்போதுள்ள நூலக கட்டடத்தை, மருத்துவமனையாக மாற்றுவது எளிதான காரியம் அல்ல. இவ்வாறு அவர் கூறினார்.

எழும்பூர் அரசு மருத்துவமனைக்கு சிகிச்சைக்காக, குழந்தையுடன் வந்த திரவியம் கூறும் போது, "நூலகத்தை மாற்றலாமா, கூடாதா என்பதெல்லாம் எனக்குத் தெரியாது. ஆனால், குழந்தைகளுக்காக, இன்னொரு அரசு மருத்துவமனை கண்டிப்பாக வேண்டும்' என்றார்.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=342309

Translation : Paediatric Hospital to be established in Tamilnadu after 60 years is welcomed by Parents and Doctors.

sarathy

November 3rd, 2011, 11:42 AM

பெண்கள் மீது ரொம்ப அக்கறை தமிழக அரசுக்கு ! - இலவச நாப்கின் வழங்கும் திட்டம் ஜெ., அறிவிப்பு

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=342782

Mad 4 Madras

November 3rd, 2011, 11:58 AM

Is that wrong? Ilavasa TV, Grinder, Mixie, Washing machines.......all are bad.

sarathy

November 3rd, 2011, 01:16 PM

Is that wrong? Ilavasa TV, Grinder, Mixie, Washing machines.......all are bad.
This is just 44 Crores. Seems to be dust when compared to TV, mixi, grinder, fans, laptop etc.

Day by day freebee list increases

N.kumar

November 3rd, 2011, 01:20 PM

this was annouced in budget, allocation made thattime itself. its was already subsidised and just made free like rs 2 or rs 3 i think. check budget speech.

satchitananda

November 3rd, 2011, 04:01 PM

krishnaswamy

November 3rd, 2011, 04:42 PM

Mukkesh

November 3rd, 2011, 04:57 PM

+1. really it is a good initiative. Let them distribute it atleast for 50% of the funds.

Good scheme announced by Ammaiyar.

kongutamizhan

November 3rd, 2011, 05:00 PM

^^ I still don't understand how giving anything for free can be good.

Creating awareness is good, empowerment is good, education is good, providing accessibility to feminine hygiene products and baby care products at public places and restrooms, vacation / tourist spots etc., by having vending machines (by constantly replinishing it) is good. But giving it for free? C'mon why do we have to take that route?

Freeies are good only in cases of education or calamities (manmade or natural). For all the others we don't need freebies. What we need is awareness and accessibility (and ofcourse availability)

kannan infratech

November 3rd, 2011, 05:21 PM

Actually the Sanitary Napkins Scheme was started off with a different objective but now made into a freebie scheme - to impress the womenfolk for votes.

The women Self Help Groups were encouraged to manufacture the napkins and market the same in rural areas at a much cheaper cost than the MNC branded ones. I think that it was started in Coimbatore only.

The SHGs were also asked to do awareness programs in Rural areas and Govt schools on Personal Hygiene. They were earning good money through the schemes.

But now it is being hijacked to be included in Freebie scheme - which may result in increasing the purchase price (for middlemen commission) and misuse of funds allocated for the same.

But the concept of supplying napkins to rural girls / women is good. Giving it free is not. They can subsidise to promote sales.

sarathy

November 3rd, 2011, 05:56 PM

Anything is good, if it really meant to be given for serving purposes. But these all are vote hunting tatics [ Both the parties ].
If they wanted to give really free, they could give

1.Free Computer Coaching for students instead of laptop.
2.Free Electricity/Water to BPL instead of TV.
3.Can construct parks.

Instead of giving this short-span products. They could think something innovative.

Even in this scheme - instead of free, govt could have charge re.1 or 2 as in North India and enhance the business opportunity for those who manufactures it, or even govt can take it.

satchitananda

November 3rd, 2011, 05:57 PM

Freebies are definitely the bane for any society. The decline of democracy begins when the citizens figure out that they can order the freebies of their choice with the tax money.

Having said that I think, the Indian society as a whole has some stigmas, especially focussed on women. Spreading the awareness at different levels is the key for any change - Physical hygiene is something our society has lost over a period of time (be it using public site as urinal/defecation or spitting etc). I believe to raise the awareness level, all of the stakeholders must be in the play - government, SHG, NGO's, but most importantly common man.

As politician every government will try to hijack certain ideas for their ego sake or publicity stunt. But much more work needs to be done for education, women and society as a whole. Never forget, we all have a part to play and it all begins there.

kvijayasundaram

November 3rd, 2011, 06:31 PM

^^ Culturally promoting feminine hygiene will pay big dividends to the society. If you educate a guy, you educate one person. If you educate a girl, you educate a family. The society's development can be measured in the way it treats women and weaker sections of the society (I am not inferring women as weaker definitely).

This is any day more welcome than goats and tv and mixie. Hope money will be spent on such long term dividend projects rather than useless votebank politics.

How can providing free Napkins bring in long term dividends. I can understand to some extent that there is some validity in Kannan's argument that It can help self help groups economically. Other than that, how does it educate women and her family in general. What kind of special knowledge are we imparting to women that they dont know already by providing nappies. Can you pls elaborate. Very eager to hear from you.

murlee

November 3rd, 2011, 06:48 PM

Not sure but..

It would definitely help the rural girls to stay in better health as without using them, it is unhygienic which could result in problems.

Remember, a healthy adolescent girl means a healthy mother in future which means a healthy child born. Which would mean a productive child..

India faces acute child malnutrition and stunted children.. This, I believe is due to the deplorable health of the mother too apart from poverty... If a child is breast-fed well in its early stage, there are high chances that child will grow healthy.. Thus,A mother's health is extremely crucial for the entire society itself..

A lot hinges on the health of a women in the society. It is a pity that not enough care is given to that.

kannan infratech

November 3rd, 2011, 06:49 PM

How can providing free Napkins bring in long term dividends. I can understand to some extent that there is some validity in Kannan's argument that It can help self help groups economically. Other than that, how does it educate women and her family in general. What kind of special knowledge are we imparting to women that they dont know already by providing nappies. Can you pls elaborate. Very eager to hear from you.

Sorry to barge in.

The awareness of being clean / more hygienic esp during periods is gaining ground in Rural areas only now. They still use old used clothes in many villages. This leads to infections and other diseases.

So educating rural women to use napkins is a good idea. But it has to be within their means. More over the MNC products are more synthetic than cotton, where in India, synthetic itself seems a main reason for more complications due to tropical weather and poor hygiene.

They can get two mangoes with one stone if they buy only from rural SHGs and supply to rural women at a cheap affordable price.

satchitananda

November 3rd, 2011, 06:59 PM

^^ By and large sanitary napkins is an imported concept. The conventional methods are too gross for this platform to discuss. So switching to napkins provide a first step towards feminine hygiene. I remember the vintage DD ads (think Carefree) was still creating the market via awareness. Kannan's view point is the practical focus, as usual bang on the money.

Affordability is definitely the key here. Again the real use may be appreciated many times more by a woman than us guys. Again more in the rural areas than in cities (though we may be mostly an urban state).

My view point was increasing awareness of feminine hygiene will bring long term dividends, not napkins per se. But this is a small step in that direction. Again its the gesture towards women that matters more in mind.

Comparing with US, most decent restrooms offer separate disposal mechanisms for feminine products. (This may be quite a stretch where finding a usable decent restroom itself is a herculean task).

Again I am thinking more in terms of empowering women as they have a multiplying effect, especially when anything good happens to them.

kongutamizhan

November 3rd, 2011, 07:14 PM

Comparing with US, most decent restrooms offer separate disposal mechanisms for feminine products. (This may be quite a stretch where finding a usable decent restroom itself is a herculean task).
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may be a herculean task. don't u think that it is a fundamental problem? without fixing that first no matter what you do, you are only window dressing.

you can give it for free, but what if they don't have it wherever they go or insufficient? that's why vending machines (access when needed) matters

kvijayasundaram

November 3rd, 2011, 07:19 PM

All, these arguments stem from the misconception that women in TN have poor awareness about hygiene.

Common, I think your folks are still frozen in time. Come to my village and I can bet every woman would know how to use one. Womefolk in village watch more tv( thanks to high TV penetration) than us in general and more aware of how to protect them and their children.

Sure there may be still some tribal and underdeveloped pockets which may be behind in usage of nappies. What is really required here is general education about hygiene to them and making nappies affordable to those target areas. Not freebies like this to general popultion, which I think is a colossal waste.

I would anyday wish this money was spent on some decent toilets.

kongutamizhan

November 3rd, 2011, 07:23 PM

All, these arguments stem from the misconception that women in TN have poor awareness about hygiene.
.......

I would anyday wish this money was spent on some decent toilets.

My point exactly. Accessability, availability of women (and baby which is missing) hyegine products and cleanliness of restrooms are more important. You can spend that money on subsidizing local made ones and on having an efficient supply chain to get it to wherever needed (Like tourist spots or public restrooms)

satchitananda

November 3rd, 2011, 07:37 PM

I agreed at the outset itself that freebie culture is a definite bane. While every Re. can be spent in so many ways, there will always be argument on how and why it cannot be spent in a particular way - read lobbies.

Assume if the money was spent on Restrooms along the road, definitely the next critic is going to say we donot even have proper roads everywhere. Come to my village or town and see. Being a critic of everything and anything robs the pleasure of admiring the good even in the evil. (While admiring the beauty of a hooded snake, make sure you dont get in its way.. :D )

If the argument is if the money can be well spent on other agenda, I bet we can list a big inventory (Guess I can beat you on that list KT .. hehe) . Remember JJ came to power based on her countering the prev. govt. freebie policy. It was already downhill.

@kvijayasundaram

We are still ways to go sir. Look at the folks urinating/defecating in public (including college educated). So its not mere awareness. Its also affordability, compliance..

But I 100% agree that decent public toilets is definite need of the hour. Any government that does will get more than brownie points in the next election. (If implemented scandal free and efficiently)

kvijayasundaram

November 3rd, 2011, 07:50 PM

I agreed at the outset itself that freebie culture is a definite bane. While every Re. can be spent in so many ways, there will always be argument on how and why it cannot be spent in a particular way - read lobbies.

Assume if the money was spent on Restrooms along the road, definitely the next critic is going to say we donot even have proper roads everywhere. Come to my village or town and see. Being a critic of everything and anything robs the pleasure of admiring the good even in the evil. (While admiring the beauty of a hooded snake, make sure you dont get in its way.. :D )

The question here is not about being a critic/admiring good or bad. Its about misplaced priorities and pointing out how the Govt is being cluless on what to do and what is really needed.

If the argument is if the money can be well spent on other agenda, I bet we can list a big inventory (Guess I can beat you on that list KT .. hehe) . Remember JJ came to power based on her countering the prev. govt. freebie policy. It was already downhill.

@kvijayasundaram

We are still ways to go sir. Look at the folks urinating/defecating in public (including college educated). So its not mere awareness. Its also affordability, compliance..

yes, we are way to go again, not much in napkin usage but more so in providing decent toilets and preventing public urination and defection. Thats what I am trying to stress here.

But I 100% agree that decent public toilets is definite need of the hour. Any government that does will get more than brownie points in the next election. (If implemented scandal free and efficiently)

Thank you for that.

kongutamizhan

November 3rd, 2011, 07:54 PM

Assume if the money was spent on Restrooms along the road, definitely the next critic is going to say we donot even have proper roads everywhere. Come to my village or town and see. Being a critic of everything and anything robs the pleasure of admiring the good even in the evil.

Nope!! I don't think anyone will say that because this is also equally important. Look at it from issue based perspective. If you want to tackle problems in silos and then integrate them then one has to consider hygiene as a silo (independent / basic plug and play component).

Restrooms are directly connected to hygiene than roads and hospitals are to it. The latter ones fall under infrastructure tower / component of which hygiene is a sub-component. Ofcourse it is important to have cleanliness in roads and hospitals. But how are you going to keep hospitals or roads clean without a rest / wash rooms as part of it? That's where the integration of both silos are key. So you see the connection here?

My next point is the government is prioritizing on giving it for free. They think that giving it for free will solve cleanliness issue. Like I said before it won't. Instead they should be focusing on availability when required.

Final point is to have nominal charge for those local made products.

Doing this will not only ensure that you are working from ground-up, it creates employment too starting from women empowerment to supply routes. Now see what the government missed by giving it for free?

kannan infratech

November 3rd, 2011, 08:10 PM

On Public Rest Rooms:

A few years back, I was intrigued by the fact that why Shulab Public toilets are not to be seen in TN but are working so well in other states.

As I could not get a proper reply from local corporations, I wrote to Shulab International HO. The reply I got was shocking.

They offered to build toilets free of cost all over TN. Only running cost is to be borne by TN Govt. They were made to run from pillar to post but without any proper reply or guidance.

Then I came to know that there is a big mafia behind this operation. Money is shown as spent but not actually done. They are showing old ones as new ones and pocketing the money.

Last year I lobbied for Ecosan type of toilets (less water usage and Dry toilets). But again, a big obstacle from authorities.

We implemented on trial basis at Yelagiri villages using locally available materials and using ash as dumping chemical and cuddappah stone. We could do it within Rs. 4000 per toilet against Rs. 12000 for Ecosan. They are still working well.

I suggested similar ones for Bessy Beach, Chennai. Still to get a reply.

I have suggested the same to the new Mayor last week and let us see what he does.

gvijayan

November 3rd, 2011, 08:30 PM

But I 100% agree that decent public toilets is definite need of the hour. Any government that does will get more than brownie points in the next election. (If implemented scandal free and efficiently)

+1.
And it needs to be absolutely free of cost to the public. In developed countries we can see every fuel station, restaurant, store, mall have a very well maintained rest rooms that are free to use.

What we have in our bus stations and railway stations are ugly looking rest rooms that charge you 2-3 rupees to answer nature's call.

The government should think about addressing this very basic fundamental problem.

Even if we have a shiny rest room in every public place, majority of our people will not be ready to spend even 1 rupee to use the toilets, and they will think that they can get a candy for that rupee - and go to a corner/santhu. This has been the mentality of our public for a long time now, and it will require a lot of education and awareness for a change to take place.

I seriously wish such a change happens very soon, and we see a more clean environment everywhere in our country.

gvijayan

November 3rd, 2011, 08:36 PM

N.kumar

November 4th, 2011, 12:42 AM

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full details on napkin issue

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 04:04 AM

Go to google.com and type "Do a barrel roll" #timepass

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2011/11/do-a-barrel-roll-google-channels-apple-and-nintendo/

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 04:12 AM

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Here is the political picture of the day :)

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karthikarthik

November 4th, 2011, 04:41 AM

http://www.techsangam.com/tag/self-help-group/

Read more about Muruganantham and Women hygienic story...

murlee

November 4th, 2011, 04:45 AM

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/932/adwgpawcqaagbr7.jpg

Geography and Java..

What a strange combo!

karthikarthik

November 4th, 2011, 05:00 AM

Geography and Java..

What a strange combo!

Google maps Mobile is a Geography+java based application and Google Maps is javascript+geography :)

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 05:02 AM

Geography and Java..

What a strange combo!

Why so?

http://resources.esri.com/help/9.3/arcgisengine/java/concepts_start.htm

murlee

November 4th, 2011, 05:11 AM

Oh Well.. Yeah!!

Silly of me!!

Thanks!

thillai_selvan

November 4th, 2011, 05:52 AM

Why the petrol price in Salem and Nellai alone are less than other cities??? any one can answer.... Why within TN itself different cities having diff prices? :ohno:

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/11/04/20111104a_001107004.jpg

Vicvin86

November 4th, 2011, 07:09 AM

^^ Mannapuram gold loan ad...

thillai_selvan

November 4th, 2011, 09:34 AM

^^ Yup in Dinakaran news paper some times a news items' image will contain ad as a part like this

Arul Murugan

November 4th, 2011, 10:32 AM

ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை

இந்திய குடிமக்களுக்காக இலவசமாக வழங்கப்படும் 12 டிஜிட் எண் கொண்ட ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டையை பதிவு செய்து பெற்றுக்கொள்ளலாம். பாஸ்போர்ட் இருக்கிறதோ இல்லையோ இந்த கார்டு ஒவ்வொரு குடிமகனுக்கும் அவசியம்.

இன்று முதல் (27.10.2011) அண்ணாசாலை தலமை தபால் நிலையத்தில் மட்டும் உங்கள் அப்ளிகேஷனைபுர்த்தி செய்து, உங்கள் பத்து விரல் கை ரேகை பதிந்து, புகைப்படம் எடுத்த பிறகு உங்களுக்கு தற்காலிக ஐடி கொடுப்பார்கள். 30 - 60 நாட்களுக்குள் வீட்டுக்கு உங்களுக்கு ஒரிஜினல் கார்டு கிடைக்கும். உங்களுடைய கார்டு ஸ்டெட்டஸை ஆன்லைன் மூலம் உங்களிடம் ஒருக்கும் தற்காலிக ஐடி மூலம் தெரிந்து கொள்ளலாம். இதற்க்கு கட்டணம் ஒன்றும் கிடையாது. இந்த கார்டு மூலம் உங்கள் வங்கி கணக்கும் இனைக்கபடும். இது தான் நமது நாட்டின் பாஸ்போர்ட்டுக்கு அடுத்த பெரிய ஐடி. இதை வைத்து நேபாலுக்கு கூட பாஸ்போர்ட் இல்லாமல் செல்லலாம்.

நவம்பர் 1-ம் தேதி முதல் மயிலாப்பூர், தியாகராய நகர் மற்றும் பூங்கா நகர் ஆகிய பகுதிகளில் உள்ள தலைமைத் தபால் நிலையங்கள் மூலம் அடையாள அட்டை பதிவுப் பணி தொடங்க உள்ளது. நவம்பர் 21-ம் தேதி முதல் 31 மாவட்டங்களில் உள்ள தலைமைத் தபால் நிலையங்களில் அடையாள அட்டை பதிவுப் பணி தொடங்கவுள்ளது.

கார்டு பெற அப்ளிகேஷனை இங்கு டவுன்லோடு செய்யலாம். - http://uidai.gov.in/images/FrontPageUpdates/uid_download/enrolmentform.pdf

கார்டு பெற தேவையான டாகுமென்ட்ஸ் இங்கு பார்த்து தெரிந்து கொள்ளலாம். - http://uidai.gov.in/images/FrontPageUpdates/proof_of_identity_documents_supported.pdf

PLEASE SHARE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

வணக்கம்

kannan infratech

November 4th, 2011, 10:33 AM

In the last few months I have seen many instances / photos of people using iron boxes for purposes other than clothes ironing

Are the bachelors not able to buy a hot plate or trades a sealing m/c ?.

Even Forgery people seem to use iron box to remove the plastic coating in passports and credit cards.

krishnaswamy

November 4th, 2011, 01:57 PM

ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை
கார்டு பெற அப்ளிகேஷனை இங்கு டவுன்லோடு செய்யலாம். - http://uidai.gov.in/images/FrontPageUpdates/uid_download/enrolmentform.pdf

கார்டு பெற தேவையான டாகுமென்ட்ஸ் இங்கு பார்த்து தெரிந்து கொள்ளலாம். - http://uidai.gov.in/images/FrontPageUpdates/proof_of_identity_documents_supported.pdf

PLEASE SHARE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

did the Govt funding this project fully? i heard that few CG ministries stopping this project. Already census dept is also collecting the bilogical identification of people...
so lot of duplication efforts...

dineshderick

November 4th, 2011, 04:15 PM

Chennai, Nov 04 : In a major reshuffle of her Cabinet, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa today dropped six Ministers and replaced them with new faces.

Three days after a meeting of the State Cabinet, the Chief Minister sacked Minister for Rural Industries C Shanmugavelu, IT Minister R B Udhayakumar, HR and CE Minister S P Shanmuganathan, Animal Husbandry Minister N R Sivapathy and Law and Information Minister G Senthamizhan and Food Minister Budhichandran.

The new faces were S Damodaran, R Kamaraj, Dr S Sundararaj, M Paranjothi, V Moorthy and K T Rajenthra Bhalaji. Mr Paranjothi was rewarded with a Cabinet berth after he won the Trichy West Bypolls last month, defeating Former Minister K N Nehru of DMK. A Raj Bhavan release said on the advice of the Chief Minister, Governor K Rosaiah approved the dropping and induction of the Ministers.

krishnaswamy

November 4th, 2011, 04:20 PM

CIT Minister R B Udhayakumar, Law and Information Minister G Senthamizhan and Food Minister Budhichandran.

Udhyakumar:on expected line.. He is the guy who did not wear chappals in front of JJ. Also he was blasted heavily by JJ for asking small kids to stand in line for 3 hrs during JJ's campaign for Trichy-West. Also this idiot arranged tube lights for 2-3 km in Trichy...

Senthamizhan: expected.. since JJ is getting beaten up from high court to Supreme court

Budhichandran: lot of cases against him.. his poor performance resulted in poor results in local body elections.

Arul Murugan

November 4th, 2011, 04:23 PM

he he he udayakumar seruppu ku parisu!:lol:

looks eddapadi and transport ministers have escaped this reshuffle. Though amaiyar is known for frequent re-shuffle of ministers and IAS, i am happy to see that it minister got sacked.:banana:

Leo_r

November 4th, 2011, 08:53 PM

Supreme Court refuses to exempt Jayalalithaa from personal appearance...

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2597903.ece?homepage=true

wlbkng

November 4th, 2011, 09:10 PM

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/dynamic/00827/Petrol_Price_Table_827586e.jpg

The petrol price hike benefits State Governments more than the oil retailers.

On every litre of petrol purchased in Chennai at the current price of Rs 72.73 a litre, the State earns Rs 15.93 and the Centre earns Rs 14.78.

The reason lies in the base for taxation, a senior Government official said. States levy tax on base price and the Central duties such as custom and excise on the motor fuel.

If the public sector oil retailers hike price, automatically the base for the States to levy value-added tax or sales tax goes up.

“Ultimately, it is the State Governments which get maximum value out of the price increase,” he said.

At present, the State tax component is highest in Andhra Pradesh followed by Punjab and Karnataka. On the recent price increase, the official said, it is too early to ascertain the exact gain for each State.

There have been instances earlier when due to political pressure some of the States, the Congress-ruled ones, had announced that the increased part of the retail price will be spared from the higher tax.

But will the States fall in line this time?

With the fall in the growth of revenue, various State Governments will find it hard to take such a step, the official said.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas has come in support of the oil retailers – Indian Oil Corporation, Hindustan Petroleum Corporation and Bharat Petroleum Corporation.

The oil retailers incur revenue loss due to selling auto and cooking fuel below the market price. To worsen the situation rupee has depreciated from Rs 45 versus dollar to over Rs 49 versus dollar.

The revenue loss for the oil retailers has increased by Rs 8,000 crore on account of every Re 1 depreciation against the dollar.

On the other hand, the average price of Indian basket of crude has gone up from $85.09/barrel in 2010-11 to $110/barrel this year, showing a growth of 30 per cent.

An increase of $1 adds Rs 3,000 crore to the revenue loss suffered by the retailers.

The total revenue loss for the current fiscal is estimated at Rs 1,29,989 crore. The combined losses of Hindustan Petroleum and Bharat Petroleum for the first half of the current fiscal are more than Rs 12,000 crore and Indian Oil is also likely to be in red, if Government does not give cash subsidies.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/article2598350.ece

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 09:31 PM

^^ It's freakin expensive man. Comes to over $5.75 / gallon. $2 more than average US price. I filled the tank just today for $3.40.

satishanu

November 4th, 2011, 09:37 PM

How much is cost of milk per litre in India?

It's funny that milk procured directly from cow costs more or less the same price of Gas (petrol) that undergoes lot of refinery process from crude in U.S!

R2IChennai

November 4th, 2011, 09:42 PM

^^ It's freakin expensive man. Comes to over $5.75 / gallon. $2 more than average US price. I filled the tank just today for $3.40.

Lucky you its 3.85 here

wlbkng

November 4th, 2011, 09:49 PM

^^ It's freakin expensive man. Comes to over $5.75 / gallon. $2 more than average US price. I filled the tank just today for $3.40.

Lucky you its 3.85 here

Gaandu ethareenga sir.. I filled just 11 litres of petrol two days before and it costed me £15 :(

My colleague used to say this.. "Americans are born with petrol in their golden spoons"

How much is cost of milk per litre in India?

I think 18 rupees per litre.. Is that correct guys?

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 09:52 PM

Milk is somewhere between Rs.18-20 / litre depending on if you have the card or not. Amounts to $1.57 / gallon in India. Costco or Sams have it for $2.57 here. The difference is it undergoes pasturization here and it doesn't in India. I'm not knowledgeable on that front about how much pasturization process would add to cost

satishanu

November 4th, 2011, 09:59 PM

Even with Pasteurization of milk in India, I guess it would be about 1/3rd the price of Petrol per liter which seems logical. Atleast in my place the price of Gas and Milk per gallon is almost same and sometimes milk cost little bit(in pennies) more than Gas :nuts:. Also in India I am sure Petrol would most likely be contaminated compared to here..

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 10:02 PM

So what's the point you are trying to make? An average american earns $2000 / - month. How about that in India? And the inflation in India is in double digits

sshivakumar

November 4th, 2011, 10:09 PM

satishanu

November 4th, 2011, 10:11 PM

The cost of milk is expensive in US relative to petrol when compared to India.

May be India has abundant cows and human labor is cheap to extract it..:lol:

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 10:31 PM

Okay let's remember this

Let's be liberal and say that average indian salary is $5 / day amounts to $150 / month. Average american salary is $2000/month.

Milk is not the only commodity that humans use. Please check Indian commodity market (http://www.mcxindia.com/SitePages/realtimedata.aspx)and compare with Chicago commodity exchange for veggies and meat prices and calculate the usage yourself. And keep in mind the income while doing it. Also don't forget that we have subsidized diesel. Government takes hit which means that tax-payer takes hit. Despite that let me know if we control the price efficiently.

Other than rice which we even get it for free, most of them when stacked up against income a common man in India will be spending substantial amount of his salary for food and it will leave less in his pocket for other expenses including education and home

satishanu

November 4th, 2011, 10:34 PM

I am not all looking at the macro level. Just comparing the price of Milk vs Petrol in India & US. That's it.

kongutamizhan

November 4th, 2011, 10:45 PM

^^ Well that's why I said I don't know what's the point you are trying to drive at by taking up Milk and gas for comparison. If you are trying to prove that despite high gas prices we manage to keep price in check (with milk example) then it's wrong. You have to do that with broad range of commodities and not just milk.

Further an fyi. Milk production and consumption by-large is local in India. I don't have any stats and might have to google, but I can say with fair level of confidence that 75% of our milk consumption are from locally produced milk through milkmen. Hence impact of gas prices on milk might be less compared to veggies or meat.

satishanu

November 4th, 2011, 10:52 PM

Well, keeping low milk price is important to poor people than the keeping the low petrol price (increasing petrol does impact everything). Just imagine if both price are same as in US.

Anyways my comparison is not at the macro level. <End of topic>

geico2000

November 4th, 2011, 11:09 PM

In US tax on the petrol is negligible, where in India the tax on 1L of petrol is nearly 50% of the price.

Arul Murugan

November 5th, 2011, 03:16 AM

Sengodaiyan gets IT ministry!!

http://epaper.dinamani.com/epaperimages/5112011/05112011-cni-mn-07/2327734.JPG

source-Dinamani

R2IChennai

November 5th, 2011, 03:22 AM

On PPP basis I use to put1$= 10Rs but talking to my parents these days i figured its more or less 1$= 20Rs now with inflation rate in india
People R2Ied quote about 40% of what they spend here and atleast they are lucky to be in IT field who get 40% of US salary most likely.

Arul Murugan

November 5th, 2011, 07:07 AM

keeping fingers crossed....

:colbert:

http://i43.tinypic.com/15s8mmu.jpg

cc:vadaipochae

krishnaswamy

November 5th, 2011, 11:56 AM

^^Excellent

kannan infratech

November 5th, 2011, 12:13 PM

During my Chennai to Rohtang Pass tour in TVS Suzuki bike (year 1987). Average Price across India

Water - Free. Milk - Rs. 1.20 per litre. Petrol - Rs. 9.00 per litre.

In 2011

Water - Rs. 15.00 per litre, Milk - Rs. 20.00 per litre. Petrol - Rs. 75.00 per litre.

Arul Murugan

November 5th, 2011, 12:17 PM

^^

so milk cost increased by 16times and petrol cost just by 8times.

singham gvt can have these types of stats to justify the petrol hike and they can stablize the petrol cost at 150 rupees per lit.:lol:

kannan infratech

November 5th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Petrol cost is subsidised and water & milk cost is not subsidised. Is it not weird ?

arun82

November 5th, 2011, 01:05 PM

Lenovo, lowest bidder for free laptops scheme

The Indian unit of Lenovo Group Ltd. has emerged as the lowest bidder for the Tamil Nadu Government's laptop scheme, under which nine lakh students of government and state-aided colleges and high schools would be given free laptops.

Given the size of the order, the government has decided to distribute it among six successful bidders.

The government recently floated tender inviting bids from laptop manufacturers worldwide. Official sources said Lenovo quoted a price of around Rs.13,939 per laptop, which is lower than its market price by Rs.10,000. The second lowest bid of Rs.14, 452 was made by HCL Infosystems.

Though no agreement has been signed, the sources said Lenovo has been asked to provide nearly three lakh laptops to start with. According to the tender documents, the lowest bidder is given first preference to supply at least 60 percent of the total volume. Acer, Wipro and HP will also be given the order, but in fewer numbers.

Since the State Government had planned to begin distributing the promised laptops on September 15 to mark the birth anniversary of former chief minister C.N. Annadurai, a short-term tender was floated at the time, and HP and Acer had won that bid to supply 6,600 laptops at an estimated price of Rs.14,040 per unit. The remaining machines must be delivered by the winning bidders in the next five months, the sources said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2600334.ece

doccbe

November 5th, 2011, 01:57 PM

^^

Oh no! Chinese again!.....

kongutamizhan

November 5th, 2011, 04:36 PM

keeping fingers crossed....

:colbert:

http://i43.tinypic.com/15s8mmu.jpg

cc:vadaipochae

:lol: :lol: SSC - TN sectiona veraivil hospital discussion forum-a matha try pannikittu irukanganum oru patchi solludhu

wlbkng

November 5th, 2011, 06:27 PM

See this video..

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=314384435242929

I cant find this in youtube... But really a sad thing.

Arul Murugan

November 5th, 2011, 06:37 PM

See this video..

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=314384435242929

I cant find this in youtube... But really a sad thing.

pathetic... it should be 100% true.

10days before I came across(heard) very similar case on cell phone issue. But in that case cops applied different strategy to milk money.. looks they have a regular thief who will steal the mobile phones from house, but the cop will get hold some other person for this theft... this person have to spend 3-4k for these cops for 1-2days right from food to their house need then he will be let free without any case! Now to please the public they will get hold another person and repeat the same drama for next 2-3days and the orginal theif will escape to some other place to convert those mobs to money and later that will be shared among cops. Ithula kollai karangakellam andhra thappi odditanga nu amaiyar nalu masathuku munadi sonnanga..:lol:

Vicvin86

November 5th, 2011, 06:39 PM

See this video..

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=314384435242929

I cant find this in youtube... But really a sad thing.

sK5NS_ix40s

sshivakumar

November 6th, 2011, 05:00 AM

no comments....

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7962/38094424122407926661010.jpg

Indian Sun

November 6th, 2011, 06:35 AM

no comments....

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7962/38094424122407926661010.jpg

Things haven't changed much, no ?

logan_square_guy

November 6th, 2011, 07:03 AM

^^
Lets just say they are getting good exercise.

Leo_r

November 6th, 2011, 07:36 AM

Second one from the right is the best!. Y.day the newly inducted Ministers met her at her house.. Protractor again showed an angle of 70 degrees.

"Mayir neepin uyir vaazha kavarimaan" s.

ceeznic pirate

November 6th, 2011, 07:38 AM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

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N.kumar

November 6th, 2011, 08:15 AM

must must read article from Gurumurthy.

This is part 2, you can read part 1 too.

Any discussion on contemporary US economy will remain incomplete without reference to Alan Greenspan, who headed the US Fed for 19 years till 2006, and was revered as the ‘Money God'. In 2007, he wrote a book, The Age of Turbulence, in which he theorised that people in developing economies needed to save, but, not those in advanced economies, because they enjoy state-provided social security.

He wrote: “Despite their lower incomes, households and businesses in developing countries save a greater share of their income than do households and businesses in developed countries. Developed countries have vast financial networks that lend to consumers and businesses, most often backed collateral, enabling a significant fraction to spend beyond their current incomes. Far fewer such financial networks exist in developing nations to entice people to spend beyond their current incomes. Moreover, most developing nations are still so close to bare subsistence that households need to secure against future contingencies. They seek buffer against feared destitution, and since few of these countries have government safety nets adequate to protect against adversity, the only way for the households to do so is to set money aside. People are forced to save for a rainy day and retirement.”

GREENSPAN'S THEORY

It was Greenspan's theory that directed the very course of the US economy, and of the globe, for two decades, till the 2008 crisis questioned it. See how the social security programmes celebrated by Greenspan as sparing the Americans from the need to save, and enticing them to spend instead, did the US economy in.

The ever-expanding US social security schemes, theoretically framed to protect families, practically ended up breaking them, besides bankrupting public finances of US. Even as far back as 1970, the perverted effect of social security and welfare schemes on families didn't escape watchful eyes. The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) in the US brought out a book titled “The US Economy in transition”, in 1980.

It contained prophetic views of experts, including Milton Friedman, on US social security. Martin S. Feldstein, Professor of Economics at Harvard University, and President of NBER, wrote, in his introduction to the NBER work, that ‘welfare programmes introduced and expanded to help poor families might weaken the family structures'; that ‘in more subtle ways, government programmes that substitute the state for the family, cause behaviour that weakens the development of future population; fewer births, more unmarried individuals, more unmarried couples and more divorced parents; that medicare and medicaid introduced to help the elderly and poor might lead to an explosion in health care costs.'

Milton Friedman declared that ‘as children stopped contributing voluntarily to the support of their parents and began contributing through a system of government fiat, a serious erosion of family values became inevitable' and saw ‘social security system as a detrimental influence on social patterns'. The NBER work also pointed out how ‘family functions such as production of food, clothing and fuel and some other staple items were taken over by business firms, and responsibilities such as education, childcare, and social insurance have been assumed by the state.' What the NBER meant here is that business firms and the state had, together, robbed the families of their functions, leaving them functionless, therefore, dysfunctional.

Conceding that ‘the market system is the most efficient, and most conducive to individual freedom yet devised', NBER pointed out that the market itself ‘doesn't provide for the organisation of the society' but its ‘success during the last 200 years is attributable in good part to the existence of strong non-market institutions such as the family; also adding that the ‘decline of the family and the growth of the government will jeopardise the market system and associated social, political and cultural freedoms.'

It concluded: ‘In the long run, a healthy economy requires a healthy society.'

PROPHECY FULFILLED

Each one of these warnings came true sooner than later. Here is a look at US families before the expansion of social security in 1960s and after. US homes had an average of 4.5 persons in 1930; this came down to 3.5 per home in 1950, and now to 2.6. This alone cost 88 million additional houses, valued at $16 trillion at current prices!

In 1940, the marriage rate was 24.2 per 1000; it declined to 21.2 in 1970; 19.6 in 1990; 14.4 in 2009. The divorce rate per 1000 rose from 9.2 in 1970 to 16.9 in 2008, though less than the peak of 22.6 in 1980. Between 1970 and 2008, the US marriage rate declined from 63.4 to 37.4 marriages per 1,000 unmarried women. As compared to 1960, in 2008, households with children less than 18 declined from 49 per cent to 31 per cent; children living with single parents rose from 9 per cent to 26 per cent; unwed motherhood rose from 5 per cent in 1960 to 40 per cent.

Whatever NBER had prophesied 30 years ago — less marriages, more divorces, more unmarried women, more unwed mothers, more single parent homes — has come true. While social security programmes caused the decline of families first, later, such decline in turn led to more and more social welfare spend to support the weakening families, thus feeding each other.

US families reel under debt. The home loans of households top $10 trillion. More than a third of these loans weren't incurred to buy houses. According to studies by Greenspan himself, households borrowed $3.2 trillion against the security of appreciation in their home values (called ‘home equity cashed out') during 2002 to 2007, and splurged it on consumption! Further, the 111 million US households use 1.2 billion credit cards, on which they owe $2.5 trillion. So, not just families, their finances too are broke, thanks to the financial networks of the US praised by Greenspan, having ‘enticed' and made the US families profligate.

SOCIAL SECURITY

The state-provided social security that has replaced the families and made them state-dependent is stressed and potentially bankrupt. Richard W. Fisher, President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, has estimated the present value of future social security obligations at close to $100 trillion unrepresented by assets — meaning that the government will have no money to pay them when they fall due in future.

Tailpiece: Here is the Indian equivalent of Greenspan's economics — the economics of Bahuka. Bahuka figures in the Bhagawata Purana, and was the advisor of Jarasandha, who was Kamsa's father-in-law. Kamsa, who regarded Sri Krishna as his enemy, asked Bahuka's advice on how to make his subjects state-dependent. Bahuka told him: “Open your treasury to the people. Make the people eat, drink and enjoy themselves. Bring up children to look upon parents as old and useless. That will make them laugh at those who talk of duty, love and compassion. Like well-fed cattle at the mercy of the cowherd, the people will be completely dependent on you.”

Rejecting the sage advice of the likes of Milton Friedman and Martin Feldstein, decades ago, the US opted to follow the economics of the likes of Greenspan. The result: Half of American families are state-dependent. But fortunately, Bahuka's economics, close to Greenspan's, was ignored by Indians thousands of years ago, though, of late, some Indian politicians seem influenced by Bahuka's economics.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/article2598383.ece?homepage=true

dineshderick

November 6th, 2011, 08:25 AM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

jqBiR96lUq8

:applause:

wlbkng

November 6th, 2011, 10:23 AM

Kalam backs Kudankulam nuclear plant

The father of India's missile programme, former President APJ Abdul Kalam, who visited the upcoming Kudankulam nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu on Sunday, has said he is fully satisfied with the safety aspects of the plant.

Kalam reached Madurai on Saturday evening and assured locals who are opposed to the project that he would meet them on Sunday evening.

This has come at a time when the protests have intensified for the closure of the plant.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tn-kalam-backs-kudankulam-nuclear-plant/199772-62-128.html

Mukkesh

November 6th, 2011, 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=wlbkng;85421116]Kalam backs Kudankulam nuclear plant

The father of India's missile programme, former President APJ Abdul Kalam, who visited the upcoming Kudankulam nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu on Sunday, has said he is fully satisfied with the safety aspects of the plant.

:):)

Thanks Abdul Kalamji

georgenadar

November 6th, 2011, 03:40 PM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

Great....:applause:

kongutamizhan

November 6th, 2011, 04:07 PM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

:applause:

Not for speaking in Tamil, but going beyond emotion and really speaking for her constituents about addressing need for local infrastructure and local jobs so that people don't have to go to Toronto for work :)

kongutamizhan

November 6th, 2011, 04:24 PM

must must read article from Gurumurthy.

This is part 2, you can read part 1 too.

I differ from few things that Gurumurthy said. The article only has partial truth.

First of all it gives an impression that as a country people here are encouraged to be dependent on social security. Absolutely NO. Social security income here is regarded only as the supplementary income and people are encouraged to save through 401k's, IRA's and other retirement plans.

Secondly when it comes to personal / retirement savings people respect likes of Warren Buffet and Jack Bogle more than Alan Greenspan. Agreed that people started buying homes beyond their capability encouraged by his policy of keeping interest at low.

Coming to social fabric of America, only the low-income groups are totally dependent on social security which is no different than in India where the same grouplook up to government to do something. The main difference is unlike in India (especially TN) nothing is free. The person who depends on social security also contributed to it and should have earned minium eligibility requirements (credits) by paying taxes for over "n" number of years. So it's not free like our social fabric.

Then comes the talk of families, supporting parents and marriage divorce rates. From US perspective, even from the data the article provides, the country has been pretty much stable except for 1930's where great depression probably provided the necessity to stick together. The article confuses family values with independence in parts. It conviniently neglects the fact of rising old-age homes in India where the old are increasingly being seen useless both by their kith and kins and the government. I have more to write on this topic and will write later based on reactions to this post :)

N.kumar

November 6th, 2011, 05:27 PM

KT,Did you read part 1?

anyways

In an article in The New York Times (October 5, 2011) titled “Nearly half of US lives in household receiving government benefit” on how US families had become increasingly dependent on federal support, Ms Sara Murray wrote: “Families were more dependent on government programmes than ever last year. Nearly half, 48.5 per cent, of the population lived in a household that received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2010.”

According to her, since the third quarter of 2008, when 44.4 per cent households had state-supported beneficiaries, the number has risen. They have been on the rise continuously and since long. State-dependent households were less than 30 per cent in 1983; the dependency steadily rose year after year — never fell except just in one year, 1995 — to the present level. The dependency has risen by almost two-thirds — from less than 30 per cent to 48.5 per cent — between 1983 and 2010.

Ms Sara Murray says that in 2010, 34.2 per cent Americans lived in households that received food stamps, subsidised housing, cash welfare and medicaid; 14.5 per cent lived in households where someone was on medicaid; 16.5 per cent of the households received social security. While the percentage of Americans on state aid rose, the percentage of Americans paying tax declined from 46.4 per cent in 2007 to 39.9 per cent. Also, 18.1 per cent of the household paid neither income tax nor payroll tax.

This had happened, not when the US economy was failing or falling, but, when it was on the rise, and was even seen as the model for everyone. The US GDP had risen from $2.8 trillion in 1980 to $14.5 trillion — by 5.2 times. Per capita GDP in the US in 1980, which was $12,530, is now $47,200 in 2010 — up by 3.8 times. Citing these numbers, the CIA Fact Book proudly claims: “The US has the largest and most technologically-powerful economy on earth, with a per capita GDP of $47,200.”

FEWER TAX-PAYERS

Yet, it was when the US GDP rose by 518 per cent and its GDP per capita by 377 per cent, the number of state-dependent households rose by two-thirds, to almost half the US families, and the number of tax-paying Americans dropped by one-seventh. Today, if eight Americans pay tax, 10 Americans not only don't, but live on the state.

How come even when the US economy was regarded as the most prosperous and powerful on earth, more and more people queued up for food stamps, subsidised homes, cash welfare, medicare-medicaid and the like and still do?

Troubling contradiction indeed. Mere economic analysis cannot unravel or answer this. It needs socio-cultural and socio-political audit of economics and US economic policies.

State support to distressed families emerged in the US during the Great Depression. In 1935, the Social Security Act to hedge against families in distress, provided for retirement and unemployment benefits and for lump-sum payment on death.

The scheme worked, and still does; thus, all employed Americans compulsorily pay payroll tax, their employers paying matching sums, to the government; and from out of the national pool continually funded thus, all those who retire or are unemployed, or the families of the dead, are regularly paid out. Social security is, in substance, dedicated tax. The concept expanded later, for worse.

COSTLIEST GOVT PROGRAMME

Subsequently, from the 1960s, the US government began providing for medicare, medicaid, education and other social welfare programmes, which kept increasing. Till 1960, medicare and medicaid were non-existent.

In 1950, the social security spend was 0.3 per cent of GDP; in 2010, it is 4.8 per cent of GDP. Today, the US Social Security is largest government programme and accounts for one-fifth of the federal spend. Medicare-medicaid account for another one-fifth.

In 1970, medicare provision in the budget was 0.7 per cent of GDP; now it is 2.7 per cent; in 1970, medicaid provision was 0.2 per cent of GDP; today it is 1.8 per cent. In 2010, the social security spend out of payroll tax was $695 billion, and medicare and medicaid $753 billion; education and social welfare $571 billion.

The total social security, medicare-medicaid, education and social welfare cost in 2010 — an extraordinary year — is $2.029 trillion. This accounts for almost 15 per cent of the US GDP, and accounts for 57.7 per cent of the federal revenue.

STATE AS FAMILY

Milton Friedman, regarded as the most influential economist of the second half of the 20{+t}{+h} Century and a Nobel Laureate, denounced social security as creating entitlement for all based on merely age, not an economic or poverty index. It is therefore not an anti-poverty measure. And what started off as support to families slowly expanded to supplant the families themselves.

The result: by such welfare schemes, the US government gradually took over the responsibilities and burdens of US families, and rendered them duty-free and functionless. By taking over normal functions of almost half the US households, the state has virtually replaced the household — that is, nationalised the families. While the next part of this article will be on the causes and consequences of this fundamental shift in the state-society relation, here is a brief on how this shift seems set to dynamite the US economy itself.

The greatest challenge of the US Treasury today is how to fund or how to reduce, the galloping social security-health care cost.

The 125-year projection (1962-2075) of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) made in July 2002 — that is, before the financial meltdown in 2008 — saw social security, medicare-medicaid cost leaping to 11.3 per cent of US GDP in 2020, to 13.9 per cent in 2030, to 15.5 per cent in 2040, to 16.7 per cent in 2050, to 18.1 per cent in 2060, to 20 per cent in 2070 and to 21.1 per cent in 2075.

Against this, the total revenue of the US government would be 19.2 per cent of GDP in 2010; and it would remain constant at 19 per cent till 2075. The message is: the entire revenue of the US would be inadequate for the obligations resulting from financial nationalisation of families alone!

GLOOMY PROJECTIONS

According to the CBO, if things continued unattended, the budget deficits in 2050 will be 7.9 per cent of GDP; in 2060, 12 per cent; 2070, 17.5 per cent and in 2075, 20.7 per cent. This projection was made when the US was better off, and on the basis that US would post budget surpluses year after year, during 2000 to 2030.

But the prognosis now is that there would be no surplus between 2009 and 2019, and till 2019 the federal deficit would top $9.5 trillion! The gloomy projections of 2002 look gloomier after 2008.

Even as families were being actively nationalised in the 1980s, another movement started in the late 1980s in the reverse direction — namely, privatisation of the state.

Yes, it was then that, for the first time, the US President constituted a Commission on Privatisation, in 1987, to divest the state of its functions.

The Commission targeted low-income housing, home-loans, air traffic control, postal service, prisons, federal assets such as Amtrak, naval petroleum reserves, medicare, urban mass-transit and the like, for privatisation.

Why did the state in the US assume family functions from households and divest its own functions to corporates? Obviously, the state, overburdened by nationalisation of family functions, had to unburden itself by privatising its functions in exchange.

But, why did the US nationalise family functions? What principle of socio-economics caused this shift and to what effect? More on this tomorrow.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/article2595181.ece

inchennai

November 6th, 2011, 05:28 PM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL,

Nice good going... but her dressing is not so good. :)

Kongutamil,

Coming to social fabric of America, only the low-income groups are totally dependent on social security which is no different than in India where the same grouplook up to government to do something. The main difference is unlike in India (especially TN) nothing is free. The person who depends on social security also contributed to it and should have earned minium eligibility requirements (credits) by paying taxes for over "n" number of years. So it's not free like our social fabric.

I donot agree with the FREE=Socialsecurity part of your post... do you think the FREE things given by the people really benefit the low income groups? here the Corrupt Rich only enjoys everything and they want to keep the system corrupt like now.
The poor only gets very very minor benefits compared to those in the top.

N.kumar

November 6th, 2011, 05:35 PM

Kannan sir,

Are you sure petrol is subsidised? I had in the past to posted on this, refering to Aj speech

petrol output price including commisiions for retailers, transport cost is arnd 40-41. This after so called subsidising

We get it arnd 23 rs. Then besides manuf cost and all there is the customs and excise on import of crude. There central govt gets money. this should take it to 38 or 30. then other costs of refining and costs i refered above.

Close to 32 rs of 72 is then tax. 15 rs central and 16 rs state share.So overall inclusing the other we have close to 38 to 40 rs as tax itself.

Last year alone i think 1 lakh 50000 cr was collection for centre alone. Its from this money then they give cash incentive for oil companies to keep their prcie less. so what would have been probably a base price of 46, they are forced to sell at 41.

On this base price is the tax. net result looks like subsidising but no.

here is related artcile that came friday

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The petrol price hike benefits State Governments more than the oil retailers.

On every litre of petrol purchased in Chennai at the current price of Rs 72.73 a litre, the State earns Rs 15.93 and the Centre earns Rs 14.78.

The reason lies in the base for taxation, a senior Government official said. States levy tax on base price and the Central duties such as custom and excise on the motor fuel.

If the public sector oil retailers hike price, automatically the base for the States to levy value-added tax or sales tax goes up.

“Ultimately, it is the State Governments which get maximum value out of the price increase,” he said.

At present, the State tax component is highest in Andhra Pradesh followed by Punjab and Karnataka. On the recent price increase, the official said, it is too early to ascertain the exact gain for each State.

There have been instances earlier when due to political pressure some of the States, the Congress-ruled ones, had announced that the increased part of the retail price will be spared from the higher tax.

But will the States fall in line this time?

With the fall in the growth of revenue, various State Governments will find it hard to take such a step, the official said.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas has come in support of the oil retailers – Indian Oil Corporation, Hindustan Petroleum Corporation and Bharat Petroleum Corporation.

The oil retailers incur revenue loss due to selling auto and cooking fuel below the market price. To worsen the situation rupee has depreciated from Rs 45 versus dollar to over Rs 49 versus dollar.

The revenue loss for the oil retailers has increased by Rs 8,000 crore on account of every Re 1 depreciation against the dollar.

On the other hand, the average price of Indian basket of crude has gone up from $85.09/barrel in 2010-11 to $110/barrel this year, showing a growth of 30 per cent.

An increase of $1 adds Rs 3,000 crore to the revenue loss suffered by the retailers.

The total revenue loss for the current fiscal is estimated at Rs 1,29,989 crore. The combined losses of Hindustan Petroleum and Bharat Petroleum for the first half of the current fiscal are more than Rs 12,000 crore and Indian Oil is also likely to be in red, if Government does not give cash subsidies.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/article2598350.ece

kannan infratech

November 6th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Kumar

The basic price is low due to govt subsidies given indirectly to oil majors.

but duties & taxes esp by SGs are high and in the end customer may not enjoy the benefits fully.

If they are also removed end price may touch 100 soon.

wlbkng

November 6th, 2011, 06:19 PM

Crossposting from TN Economy thread:

http://i.imgur.com/J8iY8.png

State domestic product data are sourced by RBI(Reserve Bank of India) website:

Constant Price NSDP - http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Publications/PDFs/005T_HBS120911.pdf

Current Price NSDP - http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Publications/PDFs/004T_HBS120911.pdf

Literacy data source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_literacy_rate

HDI Index data (More the score, better is HDI): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index

Urbanisation level data: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_territories_of_India_by_population

kongutamizhan

November 6th, 2011, 06:26 PM

KT,Did you read part 1?

Yes I did read it now :)

Well my point is he is squarely blaming Social security for the entire situation. Neither he sees the other side of social security nor he sees the other side of our "supposed" family values. His entire argument seems to be centered around family values. Looks like he wanted to write the article in favor of a per-conceived notion of family values and that's why he took strong references from the best while arguing for that side (Milton Friedman) where as the best he could get to support the opposite side was Alan Greenspan? Of-course family values does contribute to it but there are many factors beyond that which countries including India will not be able to escape from in the future

Agreed, Social security in US (even more importantly in Europe) is nowhere close to perfection, but simply there are no better options available for any country as of now. If this system is projected as junk, then our system has to be ridiculed too. Ours provides no-security whatsoever for non-public sector employees. We place too much assumption that our family values will take care of it. While it might have been true in the past, we no longer can afford to place that as a safe-bet. Also the divorce rate is bound to go up in India as the women are more independent. It might not be comparable to the west in our lifetime, but it will get there slowly sometime in future and we should plan for it.

No one denies that social security reforms are necessary and should be on top of priority for any nation that practices it. But portraying it as a total failure with limited knowledge and information is dangerous.

PS> I hold very high respect for Gurumurthy and when I said limited knowledge I didn't mean to question his knowledge. I am questioning the basis of the article, based on the limited exposure he might have had with respect to such matters.

@inchennai,

Technically I agree with you that freebies are not equivalent to social-security. I took that example for comparison sake because that's how they are projected as by certain section of politicians and media. Also that's the closest to social security that we have to compare. Other than that I'm in complete agreement with what you said.

kongutamizhan

November 6th, 2011, 07:15 PM

Seeman deported back from Newyork airport - News

Canada did that once already. Idlyvadai comment about it.

http://idlyvadai.blogspot.com/2011/11/06-11-2011.html

அமெரிக்காவில் நடைபெற்ற உலகத்தமிழர் பேரமைப்பு மாநாட்டில் பங்கேற்பதற்காக *நியூயா*ர்*க் செ*ன்ற நாம் தமிழர் கட்சி தலைவர் சீமான், *திரு*ப்*பி அனு*ப்*ப*ப்*ப*ட்டா*ர். தமிழ் நாட்டில் செய்ய முடியாத செயலை அமெரிக்கா செய்ததற்கு அவர்களைப் பாராட்ட வேண்டும். உணர்ச்சியைத் தூண்டும்விதத்தில் பேசிவிட்டு, தூண்டப்பட்ட இளைஞர்கள் தீக்குளித்தபின் மலர் வளையமும் வைக்கும் இது போல போல (தறு)தலை-வர்களிடம் தமிழக இளைஞர்கள் எச்சரிக்கையாக இருக்க வேண்டும். இந்தத் தலைவர்கள் வீட்டுக் குழந்தைகளோ உறவினர்களோ ஒருபோதும் உணர்ச்சிவசப்பட்டு தீக்குளிப்பதே இல்லை என்பதை, தமிழ் இளைஞர்கள் கவனிக்க வேண்டும் என்று ஒரு முறை ஞாநி எழுதியதை இங்கே சொல்லியே ஆகணும்

ganie006

November 6th, 2011, 08:15 PM

Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

jqBiR96lUq8

gr8 :applause:

Arasu

November 6th, 2011, 09:58 PM

^^
Such openness to embrace minority people and cultures in Canada deserves appreciation.
Contrast this with the situation in Srilanka or even India where even a cabinet minister would have issues to speak in any other language than English or Hindi.

Arul Murugan

November 7th, 2011, 01:35 AM

Looks puthiya thalaimurai got the no.1 position among the tamil news channels.

They coverage is impressive! they make live coverage from important cities and dt HQ in the state compared to other news channel which is mere state capital centric.

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/7112011/slm0711fe01pgpanel08.jpg

gvijayan

November 7th, 2011, 02:42 AM

wlbkng

November 7th, 2011, 05:57 AM

Looks puthiya thalaimurai got the no.1 position among the tamil news channels.

They coverage is impressive! they make live coverage from important cities and dt HQ in the state compared to other news channel which is mere state capital centric.

arul am hearing it for the first time.. is it a 24 hour news channel? who are the owners..

vgraja

November 7th, 2011, 06:48 AM

arul am hearing it for the first time.. is it a 24 hour news channel? who are the owners..

SRM group

Arul Murugan

November 7th, 2011, 07:01 AM

^^ Great! I didn't know that they have live streaming available over the interner.

http://www.puthiyathalaimurai.tv/

This is the first time I am watching this channel. This will be yet another channel I will frequent from now on.

arul am hearing it for the first time.. is it a 24 hour news channel? who are the owners..

yes it is 24hours channel. And even the link was posted here some time ago.

wlbkng

November 7th, 2011, 07:20 AM

SRM group

yes it is 24hours channel. And even the link was posted here some time ago.

Thanks guys,, I somehow missed the conversations before..

Edit:

Their logo seems to be slightly modified version of Google Chrome logo :lol:

ceeznic pirate

November 7th, 2011, 08:33 AM

8 charred to death in bus-truck collision

ERODE: Eight persons, including a two-year-old child, burned to death when a long-distance private transport bus rammed into the rear left side of a tanker lorry carrying aviation turbine fuel from Chennai to Coimbatore airport, near Kumilamparappu in Chithodu near here, on National Highway 47 at about 3.30 am on Sunday.

Bus driver Sasikumar, 28 of Chinnasalem; S M Kevalchand Jain, 61, a businessma*n of Chikmagalur, Karnataka; his wife Kiranbai, 54; K Muth*ukumar, 56, regional manage*r of Indian Overseas Bank, Visakhapatnam; his wife Shanmugavadivu, 50; Jayalakshmi, 60 of Bengaluru and her granddaughter Kamalika, 2, perished in the fire that engulfed the bus as the fuel spilled into it on collision.

Ilavarasan, 50, a hotel owner from Rathnapuri, Coimbatore who was admitted to hospital in critical condition, later died. Dineshbalaji, 25, a software engineer, is being treated at private hospital in Coimbatore.

The 23 other passengers escaped with minor injuries as they jumped out through the emergency exit at the back of the bus. They were treated at various private hospitals in Bhavani and Erode.

The mishap occurred when the sleeper bus, proceeding from Bengaluru to Coimba*tore with its full capacit*y of 32 persons, rammed into the lorry’s tail end while trying to overtake it from the left. The highly inflamm*able fuel in one section of the tank spilled into the bus, and it was soon engulfed in flames.

IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/8-charred-to-death-in-bustruck-collision/199956-60-118.html)

Bus driver blamed for mishap

IBN (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bus-driver-blamed-for-mishap/199958-60-118.html)

:ohno:

sshivakumar

November 7th, 2011, 09:12 AM

SRM group

I don't think it is the SRM Group, this was discussed earlier also. Refer to my earlier post.

It is someone called T.R.P.Sathyanarayana Udayar (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=T.R.P.Sathyanarayana+Udayar).

http://puthiyathalaimurai.com/about-us/about-us.htm

vgraja

November 7th, 2011, 10:37 AM

I don't think it is the SRM Group, this was discussed earlier also. Refer to my earlier post.

T R P Sathyanarayana Udayar - son of the Founder - SRM groups

Leo_r

November 7th, 2011, 10:52 AM

T R P Sathyanarayana

That is why Puthiyathalaimurai 'TRP' is high!

Vicvin86

November 7th, 2011, 01:50 PM

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VTSTV

Arul Murugan

November 7th, 2011, 02:07 PM

Floods in Noyyal river at Tiruppur... Many parts of the city is surrounded by flood waters.

20 people are washed way along the flood water of Noyyal.

kannan infratech

November 7th, 2011, 02:16 PM

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VTSTV

Super tracking. :)

Arul Murugan

November 7th, 2011, 02:21 PM

This is the first time I am seeing Noyyal got flooded. CBE/Tiruppur members can correct if it saw any such floods in recent times!

I guess the polluted Noyyal might got cleaned just with such one heavy rain on a single day, but people life is the price for such rain. Let their soul RIP

Flood pics of Noyyal

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/coimbatore/7112011/epaperimages/7112011/7112011-md-co-1/153045953.jpg

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/coimbatore/7112011/epaperimages/7112011/7112011-md-co-8/154745859.jpg

Vaigai dam, Periyar dam is nearing to its full capacity and flood warning is issued. Mettur dam at 101 feet, 19 feet to reach its full capacity.

I guess there would be 2 more rounds of rain before the monsoon sets by Dec mid.

inchennai

November 7th, 2011, 03:39 PM

murlee

November 7th, 2011, 08:01 PM

India Manufacturing: Destinations Performance Opportunities

http://kfreport.dytelworld.com/default.aspx

About This Report:
This Knight Frank India report reviews the manufacturing sector in India and analyzes manufacturing industry in top five industrialized states of the country. This report aims to serve as a handbook for anyone who wants to know more about manufacturing sector in India. The report presents an overview of the manufacturing sector in India and delves into topics such as driver industries, industrial policies, FDI and SEZ policies, fiscal and tax environment, incentives to industries and proposed taxes at the national level.

A more exhaustive analysis has been done at the state level where we have identified Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Karnataka, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu as the top five manufacturing states of India. Each state chapter introduces the manufacturing sector and identifies the largest industries in that state. This is followed by discussions on the industrial promotional bodies, state level policies, thrust areas and key initiatives by the state government along with details about setting up a business.

The state chapter also includes an in depth inter temporal performance analysis of the major industries. Industrial output and future land requirement over the next five years have been forecasted. Case studies pertaining to the most prominent state owned industrial estates have been carried out to highlight the availability of infrastructure, setup and operating costs with a mention of the operational sectors.

Seems to be a good report..

But, Twist ennana

Price: INR 45,000/- (India) :nuts:
Price: USD 950/- (outside India)
Pages: 160

Kaasu ullavargal udane vaangi pathiyungal!! Engalodum share pannungal.. :lol:

murlee

November 7th, 2011, 08:05 PM

A 4min analysis of the report

6hB-4hvSM08&feature=youtu.be

Arul Murugan

November 8th, 2011, 01:50 AM

Arul,

One day rain was the cause? or some dam opened at the wrong time?

This year the monsoon is behaving erratic, the two low pressure zones in the Arabian sea was the villains. The november rains could be lesser than the expected.

Let us see... but usually NE monsoon sets by Dec mid and one time it got extended even till Pongal and I remember it was in 2005 our semester exams got postponed 4 times and finally Anna Univ postponed to Feb.:lol:

that time water was flowing to full extent in Kollidam and Mettur dam all 16 eyes were opened.

It looks to be one week rain that has flooded Tiruppur's Noyyal. This week data is not released, but looking at the past week ending on Nov 2nd Tiruppur received the highest rainfall and excess by 254%

http://www.imdchennai.gov.in/wi_tn_wk.htm

And over all NE monsoon are excess in the state.

http://www.imdchennai.gov.in/wi_tn_snl.htm

some more pics of Noyyal floods - at Tiruppur

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/slm0811pag1firstmina4.jpg

Flood waters at Kodiveri

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/CBEFE0811PG02PH2.jpg

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/cbe0811pg13%20tprph-1.jpg

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/cbe0811pg13%20tprph-3.jpg

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/cbe0811pg13%20tprph-5.jpg

Tiruparapu falls-Kumari dt

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/cbe0811pg14%20sulurph-3.jpg

Noyyal near Kovai

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/CBE0811FEPG16Po1.jpg

Flood waters in Vaigai at Madurai

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/FEMDU0811PG01PH2.jpg

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/NLF7P01.jpg

Looks Cauvery has escaped from flood this time. There might not be much damage to Delta TN...

ganie006

November 8th, 2011, 04:33 AM

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4448/86863085.jpg

vgraja

November 8th, 2011, 08:57 AM

http://www.facebook.com/groups/saidaiduraisamy/

manikandanb

November 8th, 2011, 10:31 AM

^^
Rathika Sitsabaiesan Canadian MP speaks in TAMIL @ Parliament

Great to know...& Congrats.
But don't understand her claim that she's the 1st elected Tamil community member to parliament other than in SriLanka & India.
Does she know about Singapore, Malaysia?!.....there are so many elected reps with Tamil origin. Even the past Singapore President is from Tamil origin. Many other countries should also have elected Tamil reps...i guess, she's not the 1st.

kannan infratech

November 8th, 2011, 02:46 PM

For all Rajni Fans

ENSOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ytUOoa1SBE&feature=player_embedded#!

staravindan

November 8th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Let us see... but usually NE monsoon sets by Dec mid and one time it got extended even till Pongal and I remember it was in 2005 our semester exams got postponed 4 times and finally Anna Univ postponed to Feb.:lol:

that time water was flowing to full extent in Kollidam and Mettur dam all 16 eyes were opened.

It looks to be one week rain that has flooded Tiruppur's Noyyal. This week data is not released, but looking at the past week ending on Nov 2nd Tiruppur received the highest rainfall and excess by 254%

http://www.imdchennai.gov.in/wi_tn_wk.htm

And over all NE monsoon are excess in the state.

Flood waters in Vaigai at Madurai

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/FEMDU0811PG01PH2.jpg

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/8112011/NLF7P01.jpg

Looks Cauvery has escaped from flood this time. There might not be much damage to Delta TN...

Dear Friends
Correct me if iam wrong

One of above img of vaigai river has a caption" vaigai atrillu vellam".... wat does this implies vellam =water or vellam= flood , from that img i dont feel the river is overflowing.

kannan infratech

November 8th, 2011, 03:12 PM

Dear Friends
Correct me if iam wrong

One of above img of vaigai river has a caption" vaigai atrillu vellam".... wat does this implies vellam =water or vellam= flood , from that img i dont feel the river is overflowing.

In Tamil, Vellam is Floods. In Malayalam, Vellam is water.

The news report refers to floods. It is overflowing above the shoreline.

staravindan

November 8th, 2011, 04:19 PM

In Tamil, Vellam is Floods. In Malayalam, Vellam is water.

The news report refers to floods. It is overflowing above the shoreline.

:)

krishnaswamy

November 8th, 2011, 08:48 PM

http://www.dinamalar.com/cartoon.asp

krishnaswamy

November 8th, 2011, 09:54 PM

who is this "DD" medical college belongs too?
சென்னை : வருமான வரித்துறை சோதனையின் தொடர்ச்சியாக, கடந்த மூன்று ஆண்டுகளுக்கான பண வரவு கணக்குகளை கேட்டு, "டிடி' மருத்துவக் கல்லூரிக்கு, அத்துறை நோட்டீஸ் அனுப்பி உள்ளது. சென்னையை அடுத்த திருவள்ளூர் மாவட்டம், குன்னவலத்தில், "டிடி' மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி மற்றும் மருத்துவமனை இயங்கி வருகிறது. ஆறாயிரம் கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில், 141 துறைகளைக் கொண்டு இக்கல்லூரி கட்டப்பட்டு வருவதாக, இக்கல்லூரி நிர்வாகம் அறிவித்தது. இந்நிலையில், "டிடி' மருத்துவக் கல்லூரி மற்றும் மருத்துவமனை,கல்லூரி நிர்வாகி டி.டி.நாயுடுவின் வீடு மற்றும் அலுவலகங்களில் கடந்த ஆகஸ்ட் 4ம் தேதி, வருமான வரித்துறை திடீர் சோதனை நடத்தியது. இதில், நகை, பணம், வரவு செலவு கணக்கு குறித்த ஆவணங்கள் கைப்பற்றப்பட்டன.சோதனையின் தொடர் நடவடிக்கையாக, மூன்று ஆண்டுகளுக்கான பண வரவு குறித்த கணக்கு விவரங்களை சமர்ப்பிக்கும்படி கல்லூரி நிர்வாகத்திற்கு வருமான வரித்துறை நோட்டீஸ் அனுப்பி உள்ளது. குறிப்பாக, கல்லூரி அறக்கட்டளை நிதிக்கு, 2010ம் ஆண்டில் வந்துள்ள, 1,004 கோடி ரூபாய் மற்றும் நிர்வாகி பெயரில் தரப்பட்டுள்ள, 210 கோடி ரூபாய் நிதி ஆகியவற்றிற்கு கணக்கு காட்டும்படி நோட்டீசில் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.

kongutamizhan

November 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM

Website for Basic Amenity Reporting System launched in Krishnagiri

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2609270.ece

With a view to improve the basic amenities in rural and urban areas in the district and to know the status of the amenities and grievances, a dedicated website called Basic Amenity Reporting System (BARS) was launched in Krishnagiri on Tuesday.

Collector C.N. Maheshwaran launched the website at the meeting adjoining his chambers in the presence of the Assistant Director (Panchayat) Veerabadran and other officials from National Informatics Centre. He also claimed that this is first of its kind in the state.

Launching the programme as part of the e-Governance, Mr. Maheshwaran the development of villages is of paramount important for the overall development of the nation. Keeping this in mind, BARS, a monitoring system is being implemented in a phased manner to cover the entire 333 village panchayats and urban local bodies in the district.

Launching the programme as part of the e-Governance, Mr. Maheshwaran the development of villages is of paramount important for the overall development of the nation. Keeping this in mind, BARS, a monitoring system is being implemented in a phased manner to cover the entire 333 village panchayats and urban local bodies in the district.

Under the BARS system, every streetlamp, bore well pumps and motors for pumping drinking water would be given a unique identification number. Public can inform the local panchayat about the defect or damage in any one of the system. In turn it would be entered into the website by the concerned panchayat clerk. The complaints recorded in the website would be accessed by the Block Level Officials, the Assistant Director (Panchayat) and the District Collector to know the status of the grievances redressal etc. It is a centralized communication system which connects every panchayat to the collectorate, the collector adds.

An official from the NIC said that the BARS system was introduced in 10 to 15 villages initially, the required training for BDOs and other low level officials were given. All the electric pumps used for pumping drinking water, street light poles and bore wells in seven villages were given a unique identification number.

After the success of the trial, it would be extended to all the 333 village panchayats in the district in a phased manner. Anybody can access the features of the new website at the http://www.krishnagiri.tn.nic.in In future, the BARS system would be upgraded in such a way that even the public can access the website and enter their grievances pertaining to water supply motors, street lights and bore wells.

Mr. Maheshwaran also stated that the district has 10227 bore well hand pumps, 5862 electric motors for pumping drinking water and 50440 street lights. Assistant Director (Panchayats) Mr. Veerabadran and Mr. Sathiq, District Officials at National Informatics Centre accompanied the collector during the press briefing.
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nalla initiative than, aana idha enga poyi report seyya? :lol: Seriously so much of imperfections. oru velaya kooda perfect-a seyya naadhi illadha geverment employees:bash: Press releasekku mattum avasaram. I thought it might be a hiccup and tried at 2-3 different times, same result

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6060/screenshot20111108at401.png

wlbkng

November 8th, 2011, 11:26 PM

Website for Basic Amenity Reporting System launched in Krishnagiri

nalla initiative than, aana idha enga poyi report seyya? :lol: Seriously so much of imperfections. oru velaya kooda perfect-a seyya naadhi illadha geverment employees:bash: Press releasekku mattum avasaram. I thought it might be a hiccup and tried at 2-3 different times, same result

There seems to be issue with krishnagiri.tn.nic.in but if you use /profile.htm then you get into one of their pages.

http://i.imgur.com/26xsM.png

All the links on the left hand side (profile, history, police... etc) are working.. only the home page has listing issue.

wlbkng

November 8th, 2011, 11:46 PM

From FB

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377345_10150359675210825_592505824_8409673_1125164162_n.jpg

N.kumar

November 9th, 2011, 01:43 AM

wlb, thats modi response to pranab statement

Voicing the common man’s concerns over persistently high inflation, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi took a dig at Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for allowing petrol prices to be raised. Addressing a rally during BJP leader L K Advani’s Jan Chetana Yatra in Surat district recently, Modi said inflation is rising because the prime minister sees India’s GDP increasing. But to the PM, said Modi, GDP means (prices of) gas, diesel and petrol

MA Eswaran

November 9th, 2011, 06:37 AM

ceeznic pirate

November 9th, 2011, 09:13 AM

Over 12,000 workers appointed by DMK govt sacked

Chennai: Scrapping yet another scheme of the erstwhile DMK regime, the AIADMK government has sacked over 12,000 village-level public welfare workers appointed during the tenure of the Karunanidhi government.

A government order issued late Tuesday night directed District Collectors to remove all the workers, employed at a monthly consolidated amount of Rs 5,000 during the erstwhile regime.

It said there is enough staff in the Rural Development department to handle works assigned to these workers and hence there was no need for them.

The Jayalalithaa government has reversed most decisions of the DMK regime, including converting the new secretariat complex into a hospital, scrapping a health insurance scheme and distribution of free colour television sets.

The latest in the series is the Jayalalithaa government's decision to convert Anna Centenary library into a multi-speciality children's hospital, which has set off a controversy.

The DMK government had introduced the public welfare workers scheme in 1989 soon after it came to power, but the workers under the scheme were sacked by the Jayalalithaa government in 1991.

DMK, which again came to power in 1996, reinstated them but they were sent packing in 2001, when AIADMK captured power. In 2006, DMK appointed additional public welfare workers.

When introduced in 1989, the scheme met with stiff resistance from opposition parties who alleged that it was only meant to help ruling partymen.

Source (http://zeenews.india.com/news/tamil-nadu/over-12-000-workers-appointed-by-dmk-govt-sacked_740792.html)

Maybe we can have a separate thread for 'Scrapped Projects' :lol:

Arul Murugan

November 9th, 2011, 09:54 AM

^^

This is right decision... 1.2crores can be saved by removing there brokers every month.

note: they are not full time employers, they are mere brokers who enjoys 1000rupees per month from the gvt and do other business. They are engaged for broking in the name of social workers for reaching the schemes like aged pension etc., they make money from every broking work!

why such gvt brokers are needed?

to make the fact simple: 1000 rupees was going to dmk party men from gvt pockets every month. i.e is the meaning of broker.

1.2crores*12*5=72crores!!!

vs007

November 9th, 2011, 12:25 PM

When I was young, my father would tell me that you could tell which government ruled Tamil Nadu by the color of the street lights on a five-kilometer stretch of beach road in Chennai. If the lights were white, Karunanidhi’s DMK was the ruling party. If they were yellow, Jayalalithaa’s AIADMK was in power.
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/11/09/india-journal-tamil-nadus-petty-politics/?mod=google_news_blog

Vicvin86

November 9th, 2011, 01:33 PM

Dinamani (http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Latest%20News&artid=504424&SectionID=164&MainSectionID=164&SEO=&Title=%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A3%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%8A%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%92%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%88:%20%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%20%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81)

குன்னூர், நவ.9: குன்னூர் ராணுவ குடியிருப்புப் பகுதிகளில் 2 தீவிரவாதிகள் ஊடுருவியதாக தகவல் பரவியதை அடுத்து ராணுவ வீரர்கள், குன்னூர் காவல் துறையினர், அதிரடிபடை வீரர்கள் என்று அனைவரும் ஒன்றுசேர்ந்து தேடுதல் வேட்டையில் ஈடுபட்டதால் மூன்று மணி நேரத்திற்கும் மேலாக குன்னூரில் பரபரப்பு நிலவியது.

இன்னும் ரெண்டு நாள்ல வெல்லிங்டன மூட சொல்லி உண்ணாவிரதம் இருப்பாங்க

krishnaswamy

November 9th, 2011, 02:21 PM

kongutamizhan

November 9th, 2011, 02:32 PM

^^ unakku 60 enakku 40 :)

60-40 used to be the trend

arun82

November 9th, 2011, 02:51 PM

Traders forum defends building violations

CHENNAI: Coming out in defence of the building violations at T Nagar, the Tamil Nadu Vanigar Sangankalin Peravai has sought the State Government to initiate steps for regularising the sealed buildings instead of razing them down.

“If you start demolishing buildings for violations, most of the shops in commercial areas across Tamil Nadu would have to be pulled down,” Velliayan, State president of the forum said in a press conference

here on Tuesday, “In turn, this would put retail trade at stake, at a time when Foreign Direct Investments are threatening to do away retail trade from the country,” he added.

Stressing that the livelihood of 25,000 employees working in the sealed buildings at T Nagar, was hanging in the balance, he said, the Government may penalise the buildings constructed with violations.

However, the leader of the one of largest traders forum in Tamil Nadu did not have an answer when the scribes quizzed him why it (traders forum) failed to highlight the plight of the workers in the past. On October 31, about 25 multi-storied buildings in T Nagar were sealed by the Chennai Corporation along with CMDA for various violations

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/traders-forum-defends-building-violations/200631-60-120.html

arun82

November 9th, 2011, 02:58 PM

TN, AP switch to leaky cash payouts for NREGS

New Delhi: Tamil Nadu has stopped using banks to pay workers employed under the National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme (NREGS), turning the clock back on the programme that was expected to eliminate layers of middlemen in reaching money to the poor. Rural development ministry officials at the Centre confirmed the development, but termed it “a temporary setback”. However, Tamil Nadu is not alone. Andhra Pradesh too has asked some of its poorest districts to revert to cash payments instead of routing wages to savings accounts.

As per NREGS rules, workers must be paid within 15 days of completing a work programme. Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh — which have used the job scheme extensively in rural areas — have found lack of banking facilities and poor telecom networks delaying payments.

Said BK Sinha, secretary, ministry of rural development: “Key stakeholders like the Reserve Bank of India, banks and post offices are revamping and expanding their networks to pay wages through savings bank accounts.” He said once these systems are in place, cash payment of wages, which are highly prone to leakages, will disappear. However, he could not say by when the financial system would be able to get its house in order, since it is the domain of the finance ministry. Meanwhile, the example of a leading state like Tamil Nadu could be a serious dampener for the rural development ministry in expanding and streamlining the presence of NREGS across India.

“Due to lack of connectivity and reluctance of some states in following the rules, we are still paying wages in cash in many parts of the country,” Jairam Ramesh, rural development minister, told FE, without naming states.

For remote and hilly areas lacking bank networks, the government has proposed business correspondents and smart card-based solutions for payments.

For quick wage disbursals and better transparency, the NREGA legislation was amended in February 2009 to allow payments through banks and post office accounts. According to the rural development ministry, 83,000 rural public sector bank branches and 1.5 lakh rural post offices currently operate over 10 crore NREGS-linked accounts.

According to a rural development ministry official, over 84% of all wage payments under NREGS is made through banks and post offices. He could not say by how much that percentage would dip after Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh exit the model.

The ministry had pegged Rs 80 per account per year as fee to be paid to banks for running the business correspondent model. These charges had to be incurred from the 6% administrative expenses admissible under NREGA.

For this fiscal, the government has allocated Rs 40,100 crore for implementing NREGS. However, thanks to legal backing, the NREGS allocation does not lapse like allocations for other social schemes. Close to four crore families are engaged in NREGS which guarantees 100 days of manual work for each rural household

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/tn-ap-switch-to-leaky-cash-payouts-for-nregs/872910/0

arun82

November 9th, 2011, 03:09 PM

Priests told to keep off anti-nuclear stir

The Tuticorin diocese in Tamil Nadu has instructed its parish priests to distance themselves from the agitation against the Kudankulam nuclear power plant.

The diocese has also instructed its parishes in the region to maintain a distance from the protesters.

The move has come after allegations that the agitation was drawing support from the Church and a predominant Christian population in Kudankulam and surrounding hamlets.

“I have told the parish priests that they are not supposed to lead the protests, but may express their solidarity with the people,” said Bishop Yvon Ambrose of Tuticorin.

His intervention is seen as a move intended to help break an impasse, which has led to multiple delays and now threatens to prevent the commissioning of the project in December.

Meanwhile, the anti-nuclear protests showed further signs of toning down as the leaders of the agitation met a 15-member central committee in Kudankulam and agreed to allow maintenance work to proceed at the nuclear plant provided state Chief Minister Jayalalithaa gave her approval.

The activists, who were till now insistent that all work on the project should halt immediately, have instead demanded a “white paper” on the Kudankulam plant seeking clarifications on issues ranging from land acquisition to handling of nuclear waste.

http://www.cathnewsindia.com/2011/11/09/priests-told-to-keep-off-anti-nuclear-stir/

arun82

November 9th, 2011, 03:11 PM

States want petrol price to be cut but refuse to slash taxes levied on the fuel

NEW DELHI: West Bengal chief minister, Mamata Banerjee, who is leading the demand for rolling back petrol prices , has it within her powers to mitigate the impact of the last two price hikes for consumers in her home state.

West Bengal has one of the highest state levies on petrol and a reduction on local taxes, bringing them on a par with Delhi's state taxes, will offset the Rs 4.50 price increase effected over the two recent price revisions.

Banerjee's Trinamool Congress has been very vocal in her opposition to last week's petrol pice hike and had even threatened to pull out from the UPA.

Senior BJP leader Ravi Shankar Prasad said the Trinamool Congress needed to look at their state levies if they were serious about the problems of the common people, though he said the centre needed to do more than just raise prices.

The pump price of petrol at present is Rs 73.15 in West Bengal while it is Rs 68.64 in Delhi. West Bengal imposes special state levies on petrol like toll taxes, delivery charge and a special surcharge on sales tax - charges that are absent in most other states.

States like Kerala have recently slashed levies to cushion consumers from the steep hike in petrol prices. Bengal under the Left Front government, last year, had also adopted similar steps to protect the consumer.

An IOC official said if the West Bengal government did away with special levies and reduced sales tax to 20% from 25%, it would be able to reduce petrol prices by 6 per litre.

Around 40% of what consumers pay as retail prices for petrol nationally goes to the government in the form of tax revenue. On every litre of petrol sold, the centre collects Rs 14.78 as taxes and cess. In states like Bengal, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, the states' share of taxes on petrol is more than the centre's. So while Bengal collects Rs 16.01 every time a litre of petrol is sold, Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu rake in Rs 16.85 and Rs 15.94 a litre.

A former oil ministry official said he was surprised at the opposition to petrol price hike. "Petrol prices do not impact the poor, and the state can reduce some levies to provide relief to consumers," he said. The numbers also show that petrol consumption is far less than diesel consumption. While the average monthly petrol sales in the state totals 45,890 kilo litres, diesel sales are 1,66,204 kl.

According to a Planning Commission member, the Trinamool Congress had raised the ante on petrol prices as a bargaining chip to secure a lucrative financial package for the states. "This is a political game and the entire opposition against the petrol price by Bengal is more to do with the financial package that they are demanding," he added.

IOC chairman R S Butola said that the sales tax structure in some states could be looked into. The center had slashed customs and excise duties in July forgoing Rs 49,000 crore by waiving customs duties on crude and lowering it on petroleum products, and sates could look at similar options.

Brinda Karat of the CPM, West Bengal's principal opposition party says it is for the centre to slash duties as the states are starved of resources.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/energy/oil-gas/states-want-petrol-price-to-be-cut-but-refuse-to-slash-taxes-levied-on-the-fuel/articleshow/10661396.cms

arun82

November 9th, 2011, 03:15 PM

Maoists fan out to N-E, Gujarat
Hit hard by the increasing presence of security forces in their key states of Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand, the Maoists are now silently trying to spread base in northeastern states of Arunachal Pradesh, Assam and in the unaffected regions of western Odisha and also from Gadchiroli in Maharashtra to parts of Vidarbha including Gondia, Bhandara, Chandrapur, Budhana and Yavatmal districts.

According to a paper prepared by the Joint Intelligence Committee chief Ajit Lal circulated to the top government offices, Maoists have also formed a Golden Corridor Committee to build a strong base in the industrial areas of Gujarat and Maharashtra.

Besides, there are efforts to develop an armed struggle in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Kerala and develop the trijuction as an operational base.

“This we can attribute to the change in Maoist strategy that is being chalked out more vigorously after their organisation has come under intense pressure in the central regions of Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand,” sources told the DNA.

A case in point that suggests Maoists trying to spread their area of influence in the northeast is the arrest of Aditya Bora from Rourkela in Odisha and his five accomplices from Lohit district in Arunachal Pradesh.

Documents in possession of DNA claim Bora, a member of Upper Assam Leading Committee (UALC) was trying to set up base of the CPI (Maoists) in Assam and to recruit cadres for the party was using Mega Dam Resistance Forum (MDRF).

“UALC is also targetting activists of Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti and Adivasi Cha Janagosthi Surakshya Samiti for induction and indoctrination,” the document says.

The UALC with other outfits, claim intelligence inputs, even conducted a training camp for the new Maoist recruits at Sising Wingko in Lohit district of Arunachal Pradesh this February.
Similarly, the inputs suggest Maoists trying to spread their area of influence, for the first time in Sonepur district in Odisha where presence of 15 armed cadres, including 5 females, was reported a couple of months ago. “Besides Chhattisgarh based Dandakarnya Special Zonal Committee of the CPI (Maoist) is also trying to penetrate western Odisha by making regular incursions,” sources said.

Terming the developments as dangerous in nature, the MHA has asked states to ensure that all out efforts are made to oppose efficiently against any bail plans to the arrested Maoist leaders.
The MHA has also impressed upon the need for better inter-state coordination in cases against Maoists on timely and regular basis to secure their conviction and inform every arrest of a suspect without delay to it.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_maoists-fan-out-to-n-e-gujarat_1609679

dpitchai

November 9th, 2011, 03:16 PM

From FB

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377345_10150359675210825_592505824_8409673_1125164162_n.jpg

I am not fan of Congress or Vatican troop but honestly shouldn't the government adjust the fuel price if it increases world wide? In U.S the price of fuel change every day.

Mad 4 Madras

November 9th, 2011, 03:19 PM

Website for Basic Amenity Reporting System launched in Krishnagiri
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6060/screenshot20111108at401.png

I get this screen when I opened:
See (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9540/krishnagiri.png)

sarathy

November 9th, 2011, 04:55 PM

An Article from Hindu

S. Pandiyarajan was fiddling around with his shortwave radio set one hot summer evening at Villupuram, Tamil Nadu, when he stumbled upon a strange station.

At first listen, it was a language he couldn't identify. It sounded like Tamil, but spoken in an accent he could not recognise. He listened on, straining his ears. To his surprise, he discovered that the voices were coming from faraway China.

“I could hear two Chinese people speaking in perfect Tamil!” he said. “And this was Sentamizh [classical Tamil], which you never hear anywhere, anymore, even in Tamil Nadu.”

That evening, Mr. Pandiyarajan became the latest member of China Radio International's fast-growing overseas fan base. The station, run by the Chinese government, has, for more than six decades, been tasked with carrying news from China — from politics to arts and culture — to boost the country's image overseas.

With humble beginnings in the civil war-torn China in the 1940s, CRI today is at the centre of a massive multi-billion dollar effort to boost rising China's “soft power” overseas, sending out daily broadcasts in 63 languages, 24 hours a day, from its expansive multi-storey headquarters in west Beijing.

Remarkably, CRI's Tamil station enjoys the widest reach of all its channels. Its popularity underscores the quiet success China's “soft power” push is having in unlikely locations. The Tamil station, which broadcasts every day from a modest 12th floor office, has more than 25,000 registered listeners — besides thousands of others who tune in casually every day — in Tamil Nadu and the rest of India, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Singapore, South Africa, Germany, the United States and Japan.

The Tamil station started broadcasting in 1963. Since then, it has continued to beam its shows uninterrupted, building up an almost cult following overseas, with its fans even organising themselves into a network of listeners' clubs.

Leading the station is Zhu Juan Hua, from Shanghai, who prefers to go by the Tamil name Kalaiarasi. Ms. Zhu has been with CRI Tamil since its launch, among the first group of students in this country who were trained in Tamil.

“When I joined CRI, the situation was far different,” said Ms. Zhu. “We had few speakers. Today, we have 15 highly trained Chinese Tamil-speaking staff, and plan to hire six more this year. We have been growing, and growing.”

Speaking in fluent Tamil, she says the station receives more than 450,000 letters every year, accounting for 30 per cent of all the letters CRI's more than 60 channels receive.

CRI, along with China Central Television and the Xinhua news agency, is now in the middle of an $8.7-billion “soft power” push to boost Chinese media overseas.

The station is on a drive to purchase prominent slots on local AM and FM channels in many countries. Earlier this year, CRI's Urdu channel launched FM broadcasts in Pakistan. CRI Tamil has also launched FM broadcasts in Sri Lanka, and is now in talks with stations in Tamil Nadu. CRI's Tamil shows are currently broadcast in India, on shortwave, every evening for two hours, starting at 7.30 p.m.

This month, the station invited the heads of some of its listeners' clubs in Tamil Nadu to visit its Beijing headquarters, part of an effort to engage more with listeners.

S. Selvam, head of the All-India Listeners' Club, said the station's popularity was driven by its novelty. “The first thing that strikes you is, why are these Chinese people learning Tamil, and speaking perfect Sentamizh?” he said. “You think, if they are making such an effort, we have to reach out to them.”

Mr. Pandiyarajan agreed. “This is something completely new,” he said. “We have Villupuram Tamil, Chennai Tamil, Puducherry Tamil. But I never thought I would discover that there would also be a Cheena [Chinese] Tamil.”

http://www.thehindu.com/arts/radio-and-tv/article2308735.ece
http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/phorum/read.php?1,110381,110381

RajBang

November 9th, 2011, 06:44 PM

kongutamizhan

November 9th, 2011, 07:20 PM

^^ Is it fake or real? Is this fever (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/fever-keeps-sonia-from-rally-but-speech-sends-message-to-anna-148115?pfrom=home-lateststories) due to this?

murlee

November 9th, 2011, 07:22 PM

Fake

kannan infratech

November 9th, 2011, 07:28 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/305186_315922818421850_185487144798752_1531905_1302283421_n.jpg

let us continue voting for p chidambaram,M k, rahul gandhi, a raja i mean dmk & congress.

Photocopy revolution is complete. Fake letters such as this keep getting circulated.

I laughed when I saw figures in Crores. No bank outside india uses the term. Even in INR, they mention as millions only.

The letter is addressed to Indian Govt - which dept ?

Poor laymans job. They can not be perfect even in this.

kongutamizhan

November 9th, 2011, 07:43 PM

^^seri adha vidunga!! SSC'la Sneha kalyana kondattam ellam eppadi nadathalamnu irukeenga? plan and task allocation please

kannan infratech

November 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM

^^seri adha vidunga!! SSC'la Sneha kalyana kondattam ellam eppadi nadathalamnu irukeenga? plan and task allocation please

Signature mattum than mathiteengannu nenaichen. Namithavaiyum kai vittuteengale.

Pavanga Punjab ponnu. illa Gujaratha ?

kongutamizhan

November 9th, 2011, 07:53 PM

^^ Sneha kalayatha nadathi vekkuratha pathi ketten sir, nirutharadha pathi illa.

Enna than irundhallum enga aaloda bestu friend (http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2011/10/25-namitha-is-my-best-friend-says-sneha-aid0091.html) illa, idha kooda seyyalanna eppadi? naan than mappillai thozhan :lol:

wlbkng

November 9th, 2011, 08:39 PM

Navy to issue question papers in Tamil during recruitment

For the first time Indian Navy will issue question papers in Tamil during the sailors recruitment test next year in Tamil Nadu. "The question papers which has to be answered by the candidates is going to be also converted into the local language and vernacular.

So that their understanding is easier and we can can have a larger induction of people from this state," Commodore Amar K Mahadevan, Naval Officer-in-charge, Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry said. "This time, we have requested Delhi to give us the original question papers in the local language. And they will feel more comfortable attending the question which is in the local language. The answers can be given in local language and we will evaluate accordingly. This is intended to draw more people from the state," Commodore Mahadevan said.

The next sailor recruitment will be during January-February next year, he said. Asked about the alleged reports of Tamil fishermen straying into the Sri Lankan waters, he said, "Many of them (fishermen) as claimed by Sri Lanka and as confessed by some of our fishermen, they do stray into the Sri Lankan waters. But this does not have any still condone the actions of any violence against our people." "So, we reach out to the fishing population along the coast, we educate them on the dangers of crossing the International Maritime Border Line," he said.

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/navy-to-issue-question-papers-in-tamil-during-recruitment/893766.html

bonoslack7

November 9th, 2011, 09:59 PM

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 01:18 AM

^^ Is it fake or real? Is this fever (http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/fever-keeps-sonia-from-rally-but-speech-sends-message-to-anna-148115?pfrom=home-lateststories) due to this?

Fake

looking at the pic one can easily tell that is 100% fake. I wonder how people believe such photoshop stuffs and post in FB with note: if you are real Indian pls share it.:lol:

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 01:22 AM

1)Meghalaya
2)Tripura
3)Uttarkhand
4)TN
5)Orissa
6)Manipur
7)Mizoram
8)Karnataka
9)Kerala
10)Maharashtra

http://business-standard.com/india/news/indicus-analytics-urban-sanitation-goes-downdrain/454974/

Kerala in 9th position? I could not believe this!!

Kerala will anyday find place in top 3 when it comes to sanitation.

R2IChennai

November 10th, 2011, 01:33 AM

Kerala in 9th position? I could not believe this!!

Kerala will anyday find place in top 3 when it comes to sanitation.

Me too, I dont know on what basis they do it , I always found kerala and even Karnataka cities (except Blore) cleaner with less open drainage etc

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 01:37 AM

Me too, I dont know on what basis they do it , I always found kerala and even Karnataka cities (except Blore) cleaner with less open drainage etc

I agree on Karnataka. But that fit only for their coastal cities/towns and Mysore. Interior/North Karantaka is same as rest of the country.

In TN, Villages are far better in sanitation than towns/cities and first spoiler in urban areas are railway tracks.

R2IChennai

November 10th, 2011, 01:58 AM

Photocopy revolution is complete. Fake letters such as this keep getting circulated.

I laughed when I saw figures in Crores. No bank outside india uses the term. Even in INR, they mention as millions only.

The letter is addressed to Indian Govt - which dept ?

Poor laymans job. They can not be perfect even in this.

please make it more credible, its funny A.Raja's name is at no 2, so some people seriously believed that A.Raja is capable of swiping that much money for himself...

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 02:07 AM

looking at the pic one can easily tell that is 100% fake. I wonder how people believe such photoshop stuffs and post in FB with note: if you are real Indian pls share it.:lol:

freeya vidunga bossu. namma sanitation'la firstu, ulagathula urbanisasionla firstunnu ellam pottukaradhu illaya :lol:

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 02:16 AM

freeya vidunga bossu. namma sanitation'la firstu, ulagathula urbanisasionla firstunnu ellam pottukaradhu illaya :lol:

:hilarious Ippo puriyuthu neenga eppadi post ellam purinchikaringanu...

satishanu

November 10th, 2011, 02:21 AM

Arul, this one and the India today ranking are done using by Indicus Analytics (http://www.indicus.net/) data not by any kuppan/suppan
and their research articles are expensive to get.

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 02:30 AM

Arul, this one and the India today ranking are done using by Indicus Analytics (http://www.indicus.net/) data not by any kuppan/suppan
and their research articles are expensive to get.

I agree, indicus datas are very costly to get. Infact once Vijayan had negotiation with them for getting data on exact detailed GDP of every dt of TN, the amount they asked was huge.

But Kerala at 9th place is some what hard to believe. At the same time I guess the quotes from you are not direct to me alone. ;):lol:

satishanu

November 10th, 2011, 02:35 AM

Well I don't know why it was ranked lower (I have seen a video where a man bathing from the dirty water on the main road and also dumping their garbage in TN border)
and read kuppan/suppan as Govt. data or any uninformed layman :)

krishnaswamy

November 10th, 2011, 03:05 AM

Open letter to Gandhi scion as India enters ‘Rahul Kaalam’ (http://www.firstpost.com/politics/open-letter-to-gandhi-scion-as-india-enters-rahul-kalam-126714.html)

Dear Rahul,

I hope congratulations are due. In what is the country’s worst-kept secret, we all know you are the Congress’s heir-apparent and that you will become the next prime minister if the UPA comes back to power in 2014 – or even earlier. In the run-up to the big job, you are expected to play the role of party head – possibly by being anointed working president.

Most newspapers on Wednesday quoted your party general secretary Janardhan Dwivedi about your future role. Here’s what The Indian Express said, quoting him: “There is no suspense about it. He has a role, which is increasing constantly. In natural course, his role will go on increasing. This is what Congressmen want and this is what in their opinion is natural. There is no doubt about it that Congressmen want his role to increase.”

It would be good if you actually take charge, for the country needs someone to be in charge – we cannot afford to have a hand-wringing PM who takes no responsibility for anything. But permit me to be critical: you yourself have shown no great inclination to take charge so far, as you have been dashing off to political trouble-spots for photo-ops but have proffered no concrete solution to any of the critical issues facing the country – barring one, which is poverty.

However, you should also know that you can’t eradicate poverty with pre-election giveaways. Poverty can only be eradicated if there is a growing economy generating enough jobs and wealth for you to redistribute. In the first four years of the UPA, the economy was at least generating lots of tax revenues, but now it is not. The growth rate is slowing, revenues are slowing, and inflation is roaring. This means, your anti-poverty programmes cannot be funded without giving serious thought to economic issues.

You may not be a believer in astrology. But many Indians believe that you should not start important things when the time is inauspicious — in rahu kalam. The economy is entering one such inauspicious period thanks to UPA-1’s karma of overspending. You should not be starting anything important in UPA-2 till the bad phase passes.

The Gandhi scion has shown no great inclination to take charge so far, as he has been dashing off to political trouble-spots for photo-ops but has proffered no concrete solution to any of the critical issues facing the country – barring one, which is poverty. Kamal Kishore/PTI

The Indian political-economy is entering a bad period. Your government has been caught with its pants down on corruption. Your ministers are doing questionable things (Read this, and this, and this). Even your PM is no saint. Almost nothing on the economic front is going right, and your mother, and her bad advisors on the National Advisory Council, are planning more deadbeat schemes to ruin things. You should tell her to hold off for a while.

Here are the top five things you need to address as soon as you become the party’s working president – or whatever.

Reform one should be electoral reform. You have been talking about giving the Lokpal constitutional status, saying that would be a “game-changer.” But the real game-changer would be electoral funding reform. Black money is generated primarily by the political need to spend so much on electoral reforms – this means corruption is rooted in electoral politics. If you don’t agree — ask Andimuthu Raja and his political benefactor M Karunanidhi, whose daughter is in jail for trying to raise funny money to run his TV channel.

If you can scrap the nonsensical (and much misused) MP Local Area Development Scheme (MPLADS), you will find enough funds – Rs 4,000 crore every year — to finance all candidates’ election funding without seeking additional money from the exchequer. If you are not afraid of your own MPs, this is the sensible thing to do.

Reform two concerns energy policy. The fiscal situation is sinking primarily because your government is unable to reform the one thing we need in plenty: energy. India is grossly underpricing energy – whether it is petroleum products or coal or power. Only the poor should get energy subsidies, but currently everyone enjoys it. The rich buy diesel cars, and rich farmers use subsidised diesel pumps and cheap agricultural power. The less rich middle-class Indians drive two-wheelers that use costly petrol. Mamata Banerjee is fighting the wrong cause.

Indian coal is priced at one-third the international price – which is why we are going to become huge coal importers over the next few years. Look at the idiocy of this policy. We will make our own coal unviable, but we will import costly coal to fuel our power plants. We will not raise power tariffs, and our state electricity boards are becoming sick.

The PM’s biggest achievement was the nuclear deal, which was sold to us as important for our energy future, but in the name of people’s movements — and you have been talking up their cause — both Jaitapur and Kudankulam are in trouble. Do you see the mess our energy sector is in? We need an integrated energy policy – and this calls for pricing reforms.

Reform three is budget reform. For too long politicians in this country – and your party is a prime example of it – have treated the exchequer and taxpayer revenues as personal loot that can be used to fund re-election campaigns. The NDA left you an economy with rising revenues. But after seven years of UPA, we are running a huge fiscal deficit that will cross 5 percent of GDP for sure this year, and will get worse next year – unless you do something about it.

Overborrowing by the government is making money costly for everybody, and raising interest rates. Businessmen are not investing any more. Ask the RBI. In the name of helping the poor, your government has made housing unaffordable for everybody but the super-rich. Clearly, you need to rein in irresponsible spending. A simple rule will help: if every new spending idea is accompanied by a special tax to fund it, it will serve as an automatic check on fiscal irresponsibility.

Reform four is to reduce the social initiative overload. We know you heart bleeds for the poor, but the poor would be better off if we also use our heads. Your government has tried to solve all the evils of the past in a few years – usually before elections – and has legislated the Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme (or NREGA), the Right to Education, the Right to Information, and now the Food Security Bill. One is told that your government is also planning a Universal Health Insurance legislation. You also want to help farmers by raising minimum support prices just before the elections.

Of these initiatives, only the RTI and NREGA make enormous sense. This is not to say that food security is not needed. We do need it. But your scheme is a disaster waiting to happen. If you want to know why, read this. It is best to use NREGA as your flagship, keep improving and extending it, and then think about food security. Just think about it: if people have money (which is NREGA’s basic intention), they can buy food without your Food Security Bill.

But the more important point is this: legislating something is not the same as implementing it well. Peter Drucker said that any organisation that tries to achieve more than one or two important objectives will probably fail. Given the sheer inefficiencies inbuilt into government, how do you expect it to deliver on so many schemes with such large outlays and with such potential impact?

I can guarantee you, most of the money will go down the drain. The country would respect you more if you tried to do one thing really well for which you will be remembered. The Left Front did one thing well – land reforms – and ruled for more than three decades. Your government will fail if it tries a hundred different things and implements all of it poorly.

Reform five is most important – and only you can do it. Once you become working president, you should give yourself a specific term – say five years – and announce that after five years you will do only social work in a personal capacity. It does nobody any good to have a permanent dynasty to rule India. You yourself would have noticed, your party has only sycophants and time-servers because the Gandhi family places a glass ceiling for promising politicians. No worthwhile politician can hope to rise to the top as long as you are there.

The best thing you can do is announce the end of dynastic politics. I am not sure you will like this advice, but remember, the political economy is entering rahu kalam. It’s going to be a crown of thorns even for you.

There is only one letter difference between rahu kalam and Rahul kalam.

Your Sincerely

A Critic of Dynasty Politics Who Will Only Tell You the Truth

logan_square_guy

November 10th, 2011, 05:30 AM

^^

These people complain only when the government implements pro poor programs.
There is scope for abuse in any entitlement program and this true all over the world. That does not mean we should stop trying. The writer seems to place so much faith in the 'trickle down effect'. It just does not work. Not in India, not anywhere else.

We have one of the worst social security systems is the world and implementing some of these schemes will go a long way in eradicating the acute poverty that prevails in the country

thillai_selvan

November 10th, 2011, 07:06 AM

Got from Google Buzz :lol:
:rofl:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2_47SDg7JXo/TrtSPoZ-D2I/AAAAAAAAJ94/PFbwSRhVkVE/s600/310380_2362639118927_1638826629_2243317_1743767840_n.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 07:08 AM

^^

:rofl:

appadiyae kooda 4 ministers kallula irukara mathiri potturukalam.

Mad 4 Madras

November 10th, 2011, 07:49 AM

Ida pathu oru nimisham nan apdiye 'shock agiten'.. :rofl:

Leo_r

November 10th, 2011, 08:21 AM

read kuppan/suppan as Govt. data or any uninformed layman :)

I think it is similar to usage of ' Tom,Dick and Harry'.. But our media has started using 'kuppan/suppan' in a derogatory sense. Even upto 1950, many in TN used these native sounding names. My 8th class teacher's name was Subbaiar and the name of Father of Kazhiyur Padmanathan/Narayanan was Kuppaier.

Native Tamils had such names and first migrants to Tamil area assumed those names to be part of the local society.

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 10:00 AM

We all know paid media, dalal media and was exposed big time by radia tapes. all the national media do the biding of congress and 10 janpath.

We have seen 3 channels at same time having the same person in a debate and all 3 callling it live and not telling it to be recorded

This is the height. what happened yesterday. When caught by people, that lady has gut to come claim, error, mistake bug on a well planned third rate fraud on audience.

4ktaoMnAcIw

Sagarika ghose has/gets a prerecorded interview from Sri sri ravishankar, edits and makes the program as live dicussion participation by him with other panelists.

.........................
a write up on it

Sack Sagarika

Dan Rather, an internationally acclaimed journalist, was the first to break the assassination of John F Kennedy. He also covered Watergate and many wars. In 2004 he ran a report about military records of George W Bush using documents which later turned out to be forged. Rather did the morally right thing, he quit CBS in 2007. His only fault was that he hadn’t fact-checked the story and the documents, although there is still no concrete evidence that the documents were unreliable. That was probably a rare mistake from Rather in career spanning over five decades. What does it say about journalists in India who continue to not only hold on to their jobs but continue to sermonise the nation as if their character were soaked in the purest of waters?

We first had Barkha Dutt, the Radiagate hero, stringing along a lobbyist and indulging in power-brokering who continues to moralise the nation. We now have Vir Sanghvi, another Radiagate hero, who now claims the tapes were doctored and he is innocent. This is the same brazenness with which politicians hang on to office despite being tainted with acts of corruption. If I have consistently maintained that a corrupt media is more dangerous to democracy than corrupt politicians then the media doesn’t stop providing more evidence to that belief.

Most Indian businesses are family-run and owned. But it is a common practice among many corporate entities to not employ two or more members from the same family, at least not in the same department. There is no particular reason behind this practice except for the belief that all the acts of the members may not be free from prejudice if they were from the same family. And what if your spouse also happens to be your boss in a news media enterprise? It then makes it all the more likely that sometimes even trash can be passed off as journalism. In all the posts on this site I have never once referred to Sagarika Ghose as the wife of Rajdeep Sardesai. I have always referred to her as the deputy editor. However, now I do believe the deputy editor must go. That any other Managing Editor in the seat of Rajdeep Sardesai would not tolerate the outright rubbish that Sagarika churns out so frequently. The latest one really has to be the last straw. That Rajdeep himself has a lot to answer for is another story.

Media is not a private body as the Editors Guild would have the Standing committee on Lokpal believe. The power to influence people, opinions and even elections is not in the private domain. There is a strange streak in Sagarika Ghose that leads her to believe that people are idiots and can be fooled all the time. That there are ordinary people and there are elites and she stands independently as an observer. Her boss should have repeatedly told her that she was part of the elite. On 9th November on her programme ‘Face the nation’ Sagarika ran the debate “Sri Sri on 4 day yatra in UP: should spiritual leaders take part in anti-corruption campaigns? FTN 10pm”. There were a few usual panellists along with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Except, SriSri wasn’t there!

First of all, the clear answer to SG’s question is anybody in this country is free to run a campaign against corruption at any place and at any time of his or her choice. Sagarika doesn’t have any moral business to question the rights of SriSri. This country’s values have been built on the spiritual cleanliness which outsiders find easier to recognise than people like Sagarika. The right question would now be: Does Sagarika have any moral right to continue as a journalist?

Sagarika Ghose conducted the debate as if SriSri were live on the programme and was responding to the comments made by other panellists. That wasn’t all, when panellists made a comment she even turned to SriSri to seek his response. What was being used was footage from a previously recorded interview with SriSri and suitably edited to make it appear as if he was responding live. This is nothing short of blatant mischief and fraud on the viewers. This is something CNN-IBN’s Cyrus Broacha does on his comedy show where the viewers are aware of the interviews being fake.

Some days back SG ran a debate on whether Justice Katju, the new PCI chairman, should apologise for calling journalists “uneducated”. I hope she now realises what exactly Katju was referring to. Not done with that, she frequently passes judgements on judges of High courts and Supreme Court some of which may actually be an act of contempt. In a recent article, ‘The Elite’s on trial’, here is what she wrote:

“The 2G trial too is one of India’s “million mutinies”. The overthrow of bail jurisprudence, the CBI’s failure to provide comprehensive evidence so far, the many weaknesses of the case beyond its rhetoric, have been highlighted by several legal experts. It is no longer even clear how much “loss” there was to the exchequer, with the CAG’s R1.76 lakh crore figure now being systematically questioned. Yet the 2G accused, before the trial, before proof of the money trail, appear to already have been declared guilty”. This not only reflects her terrible lack of understanding of the law but it also appears the article was written without a thorough scrutiny of the judgement by Judge O.P.Saini which denied bail to Kanimozhi and others. She probably implies that Indians simply want to hang the rich regardless of evidence or sense of justice.

I have said often that it’s not possible to hide in the tech-age. Faster than she could say SriSri people on Twitter quickly pointed out the recorded interview of SriSri being misused by Sagarika on her programme. She later tweeted that it was a bug and that FTN will carry a full apology to the viewers and to SriSri. I believe one can apologise for a mistake or an error. This was neither a mistake nor an error but wilful deception. The apology can pass but if Rajdeep Sardesai has any moral decency left in him he has to let his deputy editor go. Willingly perpetrating a fraud on the viewers is not a mistake that can be covered up by an apology. It is far too serious a crime. It is time for Rajdeep, the Managing Editor, to sack Sagarika.

http://www.mediacrooks.com/2011/11/sack-sagarika.html?spref=tw

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 10:06 AM

All these debates are manufactired, manipulated to the do the biding of people who the owners and editors want to help. In our country entire english media does it for congress. more people who have similar opinion called, they are allowed to talk for longer time, will never be asked tough question while trashing the other person or angle they target. and if one panelist askstough qn, or take thwem to cleaners, interrupt,change topic,announce a break.

its no longer facts as news, its views as news. news is reporting as it is.

They never write anything about the fraud committed by their peers. they bury the news. You will never see the media fraternity exposing the corruption in their industry. manipulate news for financial interest.

More than any arm, a compromised, corrupt but acting sanctimonious fiurth estate -media is bigger danger to our country than other three armsof nation.

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 10:26 AM

radia tapes stung journo vir sanghvi writing on this type in 2010

I don’t know if you watch Cyrus Broacha’s weekly satirical show on CNN-IBN. Cyrus is a very funny guy but for me the highlight of the show is often the mock interview with a celebrity. The way it works is this. Cyrus (or his producers) take clips from a genuine interview with a celebrity and then splice in bogus questions that Cyrus asks.

For instance, if a celebrity cricketer is asked why there is such a fuss over the IPL and responds, “It is all a question of money”, Cyrus’s producers delete the question but keep the answer. Then, Cyrus asks a bogus question, say, something like “Why is Sharad Pawar so fascinated by cricket?” The cricketer is then shown answering, “It’s all a question of money”. (This is a hypothetical example to illustrate the point. As far as I know, no such question and answer session has taken place on Cyrus’s show.)

For me, the most frightening aspect of the mock interview is how well it works. Only rarely does there seem to be a disconnect between the made-up questions and the answers.

There is a reason for this and it is one of the dirty secrets of Indian television.

The term ‘sim-sat’ probably means nothing to most viewers but everybody in TV knows exactly what it involves. An anchor interviews a guest off camera, perhaps on a satellite link. But when it is time to go on air, the anchor will not show the interview as it was recorded. Instead, he or she will pretend that the guest is actually live on air. The questions will be asked again live and the old answers will be replayed. Often, there will be a super saying Live, which I guess, is half-true because the anchor is live even if the guest is not.

"So, why do we do it in India? Is there no alternative? And shouldn’t there be a debate about the practice?"

These days, anchors have got more ambitious. They splice in these pre-recorded interviews when live discussions are taking place. Assume that an anchor has interviewed, say, Shankar Menon before the show went on air. Menon has been asked whether talking to Pakistan is a good idea. He has responded that we have no choice but to talk, that we will focus on terror, etc.

A skillful anchor will steer the live discussion on to the subject of talks and will then say something like, “Let me bring in the National Security Advisor here. Mr Menon, you have heard our guests say that talking to Pakistan could be a mistake. Why do you think that we should talk?”

And then, they will play Menon’s pre-recorded answer.

Once you understand how the sim-sat works, many of TV’s mysteries will be cleared up. How, for instance, do the same people manage to turn up on different channels simultaneously? Why is it that even when panelists ask pointed questions of each other, some of them are never answered? In our hypothetical example above, if a panelist were to say something like, “I know that the National Security Advisor is an American stooge who misleads the Prime Minister”, you would expect the anchor to turn to Shankar Menon and ask him to defend himself. But in the case of a sim-sat, this is not possible. So, the allegation would probably go unanswered.

I pass no value judgements about the sim-sat phenomenon. As far as I know, every single television channel does it. It is part of the everyday routine of news television. In some cases, I am pretty sure that the anchors phrase their questions much more aggressively when they repeat them live to make themselves look good. That, too, is part for the course.

My experience of international TV is limited but I doubt if the BBC would do this. Nor do I think that sim-sats are common on American television.

So, why do we do it in India? Is there no alternative? And shouldn’t there be a debate about the practice?

kannan infratech

November 10th, 2011, 01:48 PM

^^^^

Worst part is selective editing to suit their line of thought.

Many times, the person who was interviewed might have made the comments under a different context.

It happened even to me once. The reporter from a leading newspaper from Bangalore took the interview and recorded it. Generally I never ask for a copy of the recording.

But when it was published as part of a write up, my quotes were edited and was quoted at wrong places giving almost the exact opposite view of what I was trying to prove.

I objected to the editor and demanded a copy of the recording. No response at all. I stopped allowing the reporter from that day.

Another incident of manipulation by a leading supreme court lawyer and also a minister - He came to my client (whom he is arguing against) just before entering the court in full view of the TV cameras and asked How are you and Dont Worry kind of questions. But when he argued in front of the Judge, he told that my client actually confessed to him just before entering the court that only his lawyer was dragging the issue and he was ready for a compromise.

In courts, nobody can interfere just like that. It took a few days for my client to file an affidavit that he has not talked like that at all.

But the entire TV media & newspaper media went to town saying that he agreed for compromise. Damage was fully done. He lost his standing in public.

I have only this to say - We all are fed manufactured & set up News.

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 02:08 PM

^^ Of-course this happens in every media and often happens at neeya naana in vijay tv week after week on serious issues. Gopinath is a master at it.

quoting out of context happens a lot in our forum too :) whatever happens in media is beyond our control. however in this forum you can. :)

Arul Murugan

November 10th, 2011, 02:28 PM

^^

athavathu naan ippo quota pannurathu mathiriyum, Kezhae quote kula irukura mathiriyum.:)

freeya vidunga bossu. namma sanitation'la firstu, ulagathula urbanisasionla firstunnu ellam pottukaradhu illaya :lol:

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 02:40 PM

^^ exactly there u go

That comment was made in context of humour, nakkal or whatever you want to call. worst case context would be bad-humor

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 02:41 PM

arul ,

Eppidiyalam marketing panranga parungaya.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2614127.ece

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 02:51 PM

KT,

there is a difference. I dont think many deliberately quote it out of context here, where as it happens in media.

kannan infratech

November 10th, 2011, 02:53 PM

Kumar,

Neenga Guj news pottu pottu Udambellam Ranakalam akkittenga.

Ithu Ratha Bhoomi. Eppo edhu vedikkumnu theriyadhu.

Slow Pannunga.

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 02:57 PM

KT,

there is a difference. I dont think many deliberately quote it out of context here, where as it happens in media.

Disagree. There is selective, deliberate, out-of-context quoting here and has been pointed out several times.

Ippo neenga Gujarat pathi potta news-a kooda sila vaaram kazhichi naan sonna madhiri oru context-la vandhalum aachariya pada onnum illai. Oh wait a minute, in that case wouldn't it be in the context of nyabaga maradhi? Never mind :)

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 03:33 PM

Kumar,

Neenga Guj news pottu pottu Udambellam Ranakalam akkittenga.

Ithu Ratha Bhoomi. Eppo edhu vedikkumnu theriyadhu.

Slow Pannunga.

enna panradhu arul nambha TNoda chinesse and guj ambassador. adhan avaroda discuss pannalamnnu.

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 03:34 PM

Disagree. There is selective, deliberate, out-of-context quoting here and has been pointed out several times.

Ippo neenga Gujarat pathi potta news-a kooda sila vaaram kazhichi naan sonna madhiri oru context-la vandhalum aachariya pada onnum illai. Oh wait a minute, in that case wouldn't it be in the context of nyabaga maradhi? Never mind :)

may be neenga anubhava saali. naanga controversy varrumna odhigiduvomvla. anda pakkame varamattom

cactus_54

November 10th, 2011, 05:46 PM

Halting the Nuclear power project just on the verge of commissioning by the christian groups supported by Bishop councils and lead by the Bishop of Tuticorin is a serious matter in a secular country.Despite assurances from experts like Dr.Abdul Kalam who belongs to that place and acting on behalf of christian countries like USA,France,Finland and Australia to sabotage the project is an anti national activity indulged by this minority group enjoying free licence to convert people by inducements and thereafter representing such converts to thwart developments.Why Religious head should involve in these matter.Are there no elected representatives,CM ,PM and scientists of India in this country.You don't trust your fellow Indians but trust your faith people from other countries.Is it not anti national activity.If in a similar situation if Hindus provoked by their Religious heads are involved against opening of the project police force would have been used including tear gas shelling and firing to disperse the gatherings indulging in forceful stoppage and vandalism.But the state govt is treating u with velvet glouse.If this adamancy continues this will lead to a bloody comunal clash.See the news about the Bishop involvement.Is he not getting money from Vatican.Is it due to Eorozone crisis and Italy's deep debt burden of Euro two trillion.

Kudankulam protesters deny climbdown on issue

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Activists protesting the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant on Wednesday dismissed suggestions that they were ready to allow work to restart at the plant's first unit, if the Chief Minister approved such a measure.
In a statement, the People's Movement Against Nuclear Energy (PMANE), which is spearheading the agitation, said its Struggle Committee member M. Pushparayan denied having made any statement to that effect. “We want the KKNPP project to be scrapped completely.”
The PMANE also said it continued to enjoy the support and solidarity of the Bishop and the Tamil Nadu Bishops' Council.
It accused the Tirunelveli Congress MP, S.S. Ramasubbu, of leading a small group of detractors against the PMANE and “causing confusion in society”.
As he also represented the people who opposed the KKNPP, he should resign his elected office before taking sides on an issue such as nuclear policy.
Meanwhile, the Bishop of Tuticorin, Yvon Ambroise, in a separate statement, clarified that there was no change in his stand in support of the people's struggle against the KKNPP. “
As per the Catholic Church's teaching and the Tamil Nadu Bishops' Council resolution, I continue to show my solidarity with my people, who are under great fear and anxiety concerning the Kudankulam nuclear plant,” Bishop Ambroise said.
“I stand united with the people morally and spiritually,” he added.

wlbkng

November 10th, 2011, 08:07 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/386531_179752582113677_100002368083689_394572_1755161485_n.jpg

No idea about the source and authenticity. From FB.

Mr.Nellai

November 10th, 2011, 09:17 PM

முதல்ல மக்கள் நலப் பணியாளர்கள்......... அடுத்தது சாலை பணியாளர்களா? :bash: காலம் தந்த படிப்பினை போதாது போல............

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 09:31 PM

may be neenga anubhava saali. naanga controversy varrumna odhigiduvomvla. anda pakkame varamattom

naanga ellam prachanaya porvaiya porthikittu thoonguravanga, venumna nellai kitta kettu parunga :lol:

@nellai, welcome back

N.kumar

November 10th, 2011, 10:01 PM

Start meesic

The textile manufacturing industry, the largest employer in Gujarat, after agriculture, is slowly losing its sheen in the state, according to a research study by Knight Frank India.

The report provides extensive scenario of states of Gujarat, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka that are identified as leaders in manufacturing capabilities.

According to the study, released recently, the textile industy employs close to two lakh people accounting for 18% of total manufacturing workforce in Gujarat. The share of textile in the state's total manufacturing output has come down to 6% from 12 in the last ten years, it said. It further said that even the number of factories has decreased by 22% to 1,523 from 1,957 a decade ago.

This is in sharp contrast to Tamil Nadu where the number of factories in textile sector has increased by more than 1.5 times in the last 10 years. According to the Knight Frank Output Specialisation Matrix, textile is placed in the 'Lost Opportunity' quadrant meaning that the state is losing its specialisation in the sector compared to rest of India. Talking to PTI today, Dr Samantak Das, National Head, Research, Knight Frank India said, "The erstwhile textile hubs of Ahmedabad and Surat are gradually losing out to Tirupur and Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu.

Going forward textile sector output will grow annually by 12% in next five years. However this will still be lower than Tamil Nadu's 14% growth," Das said. He however said the loss of textile in the state will be compensated by gains in emerging sectors such as Automobile and Engineering.

"Gujarat has attracted huge amount of investment in the Automobile sector with companies such as Tata Motors, Peugeot and Ford setting up large production facilities in the state," he said.

gvijayan

November 10th, 2011, 10:26 PM

முதல்ல மக்கள் நலப் பணியாளர்கள்......... அடுத்தது சாலை பணியாளர்களா? :bash: காலம் தந்த படிப்பினை போதாது போல............

But I welcome these activities. Those Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal did not do any Makkal Nala Pani. They were just getting paid for doing nothing.

They are shouting as if they were working hard for the welfare of public.

kongutamizhan

November 10th, 2011, 11:14 PM

Start meesic
"The erstwhile textile hubs of Ahmedabad and Surat are gradually losing out to Tirupur and Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu.

indha news-a ulagathukku arivicha punniyavan yaaru?:lol:

It's possible that A'bad and Surat are losing out gradually in textiles. But losing to Tirupur and CBE? enagala vechi kamedy keemady pannaliyae?

muthu_krish

November 10th, 2011, 11:34 PM

But I welcome these activities. Those Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal did not do any Makkal Nala Pani. They were just getting paid for doing nothing.

They are shouting as if they were working hard for the welfare of public.

Agreed but its not every one of them was doing nothing... Government could have made them work for what they are paid instead of sacking thousands of them in one go...

If it is any other industry we would have complained about the employer for such a decision!!!

Sacking these many people at one go and making them unemployed will have a ripple effect on the society!!!

R2IChennai

November 10th, 2011, 11:36 PM

indha news-a ulagathukku arivicha punniyavan yaaru?:lol:

It's possible that A'bad and Surat are losing out gradually in textiles. But losing to Tirupur and CBE? enagala vechi kamedy keemady pannaliyae?

En sir nallathe nadakathunu nenaikrenga, Pessimisthukum oru alavu irukanum
after all in 90s textile industry was growing in 30-40% now it has come down to 14% Santhoshama ippo

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 12:37 AM

^^ that's not my point.

The fact is every textile hub in India including the ones in gujrat and cbe / tiruppur are losing out to china and Bangladesh. Bangladesh to be more specific.

idhula guj is losing to cbe /tirupurnu sollurathu vedikkaya irukku.

appadi nadantha santhosham than. aana nadakkalayae pa naddakklalaye (read it in sivaji style)

Arul Murugan

November 11th, 2011, 01:21 AM

முதல்ல மக்கள் நலப் பணியாளர்கள்......... அடுத்தது சாலை பணியாளர்களா? :bash: காலம் தந்த படிப்பினை போதாது போல............

ellam therincha neengalae ippadi solluratha?

makkal nalla paniya? appadi enna senchanga ivanga?

corrupter broker from political parties ku evalo mathipana varthal "makkal nala paniyalargal"

satishanu

November 11th, 2011, 01:45 AM

^^

http://i.imgur.com/IMGlN.jpg

Src: Dinamalar.com

gvijayan

November 11th, 2011, 02:39 AM

Arul Murugan

November 11th, 2011, 03:17 AM

Agreed but its not every one of them was doing nothing... Government could have made them work for what they are paid instead of sacking thousands of them in one go...

If it is any other industry we would have complained about the employer for such a decision!!!

Sacking these many people at one go and making them unemployed will have a ripple effect on the society!!!

1. This so called "makkal nalam" is not the primary jobs of those who got sacked.
2. This is a part time job for those so called "makkal nala panniyalargal"
3. They get money from every beneficiary. i.e if a aged person want to avail the 1000 pension scheme of TN gvt for life time, she has to pay 5000 as bribe to these so called makkal nala panniyalar. (In 1 year, if they catch 50 such aged people, then 250000 goes to these brokers pocket every year)
4. The above example is only on one of the scheme, there are lot many job for them like free tv, loans, 100days job scheme etc.,
5. I do agree some geniune person would be there among those 12000 might have got affected, but above 90% will fall in above categories.

And above all why there should be a official broker business by gvt? Protest pannuravangala parrunga, ellorum tata sumo, periya veedu vechirupanga... ivangala ripple effect ellam agathu.

gvijayan

November 11th, 2011, 03:49 AM

^^ And All I could do was to laugh when the protesting ladies and gentlemen were talking on the TV. They were making a scene as if they born to serve the public.

None of them looked really public serving. All were looking like day time robbers.

Leo_r

November 11th, 2011, 08:10 AM

indha news-a ulagathukku arivicha punniyavan yaaru?:lol:

It's possible that A'bad and Surat are losing out gradually in textiles. But losing to Tirupur and CBE? enagala vechi kamedy keemady pannaliyae?

May be that is why Mr Modi made a 'Textile' visit to Coimbatore last year days before thier 'usual mela' and invited Industrialists here to move to Gujarat!!!

He said, ' Gujrat produces maximum cotton in India,but then, they move all cotton to Tamil Nadu for the Spinning Mills, and again all threads made in TN move back to Gujarat for making Fabrics, and then again most of fabric move back to TN to make vests,T shirts etc..'

So it is time for our Industrialists to set up fabric manufacturing centres in TN to make dress materials to complete the cycle...

Mr Velumani along with Industrialists should visit Gujarat and invite all leading fabric manufacturers there to come to TN and even visit Japan and Korea for relocating Dress making factories there to TN.

Opportunities still exist!

dhandapanik

November 11th, 2011, 10:07 AM

http://dinamani.com/Images/article/2011/11/10/cartoon.jpg
நன்றி தினமணி

kannan infratech

November 11th, 2011, 10:13 AM

muthu_krish

November 11th, 2011, 12:56 PM

Aiyaa.. avangaluku defined ah entha velayum kidayaathu.. chumma poyitu sambalam vaangarathu thaan..
For that matter, more than 70% of the govenrment oppicers sitting in departments like revenue, TNEB etc are not doing anything at all.

If all the oppicers do at least 50% of their work, namma TN would have been a great state now.

yes I too felt the same when people are passing their time and getting paid as part of 100 Naal Velai Vaippu Thittam... but I think the intention to provide employment to masses is good but the implementation is not right...

They should make the people work for NGO's and get paid through them... As you mentioned we dont have independent regulatory body to overlook the performance of any government scheme and even if there is one - the head of that body will be a politically nominated person...

cactus_54

November 11th, 2011, 01:01 PM

Indian Govt and esp Commerce & Textile Ministries have been very insensitive to traditional Indian Textile Industry which is mainly based on Cotton for a decade or two.

Introduction of Polyester by a leading Textile group actually started the slide and they made the CG to to change policies.

Guj & TN and Maha were leading in Textiles based on cotton and entycee (NTC) meddled with policies and killed the enterprise.

If they ban cotton export and give incentives for local manufacture and allowing only the end finihed product for exports, it will revive the industry.

We have a peculiar situation where in we export cotton from some states and import cotton as there is a severe shortage.

Srilanka & Bangla Desh are also emerging and friendly policy reforms towards Cotton Farmers, Ginning factories, Weaving factories and knitting factories will only save the industry.
Cotton growers in Vidharba region of maharashtra and telengana region of A.P are not getting remunerative price and the price fixed by the procuring agency like the cotton corporation of India is putting cotton growing farmers to losses owing to increasing input costs and uncertain rains or lack of rainfall is leading to low yields.The suicide among these farmers here is very high and P.sainath of "The Hindu"covered a lot about this which no paper has done.Therefore there was demand for lifting export curbs on cotton to enable them to a better price.Therefore even cotton growers are put to loss and not just cotton textile companies

N.kumar

November 11th, 2011, 01:13 PM

Also add gujarat. They produce in bales and feel they are not llowed to get good prices at international markets.

The other side of the argument which make is, why should we pay for the textile industries not innovating and moderising themselves and keeping costs low. They export a lot to china and saythat if china can offer higher price and yet lower finished product price, then its not our fault.

So govt to balance it allows for certain quantum of export.

cactus_54

November 11th, 2011, 01:14 PM

http://dinamani.com/Images/article/2011/11/10/cartoon.jpg
நன்றி தினமணி
Fishermen from TN only are attacked but not fishermen from Kerala.After the defeat of LTTE income from smuggling of kerosene,medicines,and drugs which was indulged by fishermen in the rameswaram coast has completely dried up.Now fishemen from the north and east of srilanka are fishing freely without the fear of the LTTE.Trespassing the territorial waters by the rameswaram fishermen is frequent as they go to Kutcha theevu to dry fishing nets oblivious of the fact that they are in Srilankan territory and that is the problem.There are cases of our fishermen dramatising the issue and even a fight among themselves in the high seas are reported as attack from the srilankan navy.Srilankan tamil fishermen also attack our fishermen and there is a wrong notion that they simply love and adore their tamil brethern from India.

sudheeshnairs

November 11th, 2011, 01:51 PM

Kerala in 9th position? I could not believe this!!

Kerala will anyday find place in top 3 when it comes to sanitation.

I would say it is more of some ‘Technical’ reason, the ‘indices’ which are based to arrive at this figure.

Sometime back there was some report which said Mysore, Bangalore etc topping the list of clean cities and cities of Kerala down the list. Also Kerala is always ranked lower in such reports when it comes to ‘Watersupply’. Having lived in those places, I wonder how would Kerala cities be less cleaner than Mysore or Bangalore.

I think these are based on the size, extent and expenditure on ‘public water supply and sanitation’ systems undertaken by the state Govt. Also the percentage of population covered by such schemes. As usual, Kerala is totally different from other states in this regard. Here water supply and sanitation are more of ‘individual’ in nature rather than a centralized system. And the whole population of the state is spread across the state (barring the estates/forests area on the east), which results in less urban population density.

For example most of the homes would be having their own sources of water, good potable water is obtained from the compound itself. It was the norm for long in most places, even the houses in city have their own wells. And when it comes to sanitation, it is independent septic tanks. If you take the count of toilet availability per household, Kerala tops the list. Trivandrum would be the only exception with a centralized sewerage system and water supply aided by two dams.

Take the case of my native place, Kollam,. Our ancestral home is within the corporation limits, but there is no public supply of water or drainage connection. There were wells abundant with water and septic tanks are used for toilet discharge.

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 03:06 PM

corrupter broker from political parties ku evalo mathipana varthal "makkal nala paniyalargal"

+1

indha polappukku gevermentu aalukku oru photo album, maruthi omni + cell-phone kuduthu ulagathulla pazhamayana thozhilayachum encourage pannalam. Adhuve unmayana makkal nala pani :)

Mr.Nellai

November 11th, 2011, 03:07 PM

But I welcome these activities. Those Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal did not do any Makkal Nala Pani. They were just getting paid for doing nothing.

They are shouting as if they were working hard for the welfare of public.

ellam therincha neengalae ippadi solluratha?

makkal nalla paniya? appadi enna senchanga ivanga?

corrupter broker from political parties ku evalo mathipana varthal "makkal nala paniyalargal"

Not all those makkal nala workers are not brokers from political parties. There are of-course people like the one you mentioned. When it comes to panchayat level there are many good people working as makkal nala paniyaalargal. They don't earn much from the job and at the same time their salary is their only source of income (for their livelihood ) . There are many communists in that group of workers. On the other hand, there are several commitees in the govt such as neerpasana thurai, velanmai etc for individual dams in each dist which are funded by govt, the amount of money that is funded there (for entire TN ) is huge (much higher than what the govt spends on makkal nala paniyaalargal) and all those who are close to the ruling party occupy that position. The irony is that govt has IAS officers and other grade officers, but a politician with 10 th standard or even lesser chairs these committees. if the govt abolishes these committees then there is a rationale! Places were govt/ public money is looted is untouched , but the govt can easily lay off its hand only on the common man.

In the previous DMK rule, social workers were allotted flats in TN housing board, guess who got those flats, collector of nellai dist, all DMK politicos as well as some from ADMK. Till now she (JJ) hasn't taken any action on this, although there were numerous complaints that have been filed under it.

Even if you go by your argument, what for saalai paniyalargal were dismissed during the previous ADMK rule?

p.s: i don't support MK here for his appointment of these workers in his previous rules. He did so only for gaining political mileage and not on humanitarian basis. Also what he mentioned regading makkal nala paniyalargal (MNP), that these MNPs reach the public to advise them about the ill effects of drinking is absolutely hilarious :) No one does that...:) In-fact the govt expanding its TASMAC business and this point doesn't sink at all. But what infact, that is true is - last time when the govt dismissed both MNPS and saalai paniyaalarkal most of them lost their livelihood.

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 03:10 PM

May be that is why Mr Modi made a 'Textile' visit to Coimbatore last year days before thier 'usual mela' and invited Industrialists here to move to Gujarat!!!

He said, ' Gujrat produces maximum cotton in India,but then, they move all cotton to Tamil Nadu for the Spinning Mills, and again all threads made in TN move back to Gujarat for making Fabrics, and then again most of fabric move back to TN to make vests,T shirts etc..'

So it is time for our Industrialists to set up fabric manufacturing centres in TN to make dress materials to complete the cycle...

Mr Velumani along with Industrialists should visit Gujarat and invite all leading fabric manufacturers there to come to TN and even visit Japan and Korea for relocating Dress making factories there to TN.

Opportunities still exist!

Agreed that opportunity still exists, especially in internal market for finished products like you said. Amma Modikku oru phone pottu pesunanganna nallathu. Modi sir-kku oru vella color kurtha parcel :)

Whether IT or textiles partially our businessmen and their strategy also has to be blamed. Sometimes we want to make quick money that exporting gets us and when export policies are screwed we make such a hue and cry.

The need of the hour is to balance between internal and external markets. We are a country of 1.2 billion all willing to cover up our puppy-shames :lol:

gvijayan

November 11th, 2011, 03:25 PM

Not all those makkal nala workers are not brokers from political parties. There are of-course people like the one you mentioned. When it comes to panchayat level there are many good people working as makkal nala paniyaalargal. They don't earn much from the job and at the same time their salary is their only source of income (for their livelihood ) . There are many communists in that group of workers. On the other hand, there are several commitees in the govt such as neerpasana thurai, velanmai etc for individual dams in each dist which are funded by govt, the amount of money that is funded there (for entire TN ) is huge (much higher than what the govt spends on makkal nala paniyaalargal) and all those who are close to the ruling party occupy that position. The irony is that govt has IAS officers and other grade officers, but a politician with 10 th standard or even lesser chairs these committees. if the govt abolishes these committees then there is a rationale! Places were govt/ public money is looted is untouched , but the govt can easily lay off its hand only on the common man.

In the previous DMK rule, social workers were allotted flats in TN housing board, guess who got those flats, collector of nellai dist, all DMK politicos as well as some from ADMK. Till now she (JJ) hasn't taken any action on this, although there were numerous complaints that have been filed under it.

Even if you go by your argument, what for saalai paniyalargal were dismissed during the previous ADMK rule?

p.s: i don't support MK here for his appointment of these workers in his previous rules. He did so only for gaining political mileage and not on humanitarian basis. Also what he mentioned regading makkal nala paniyalargal (MNP), that these MNPs reach the public to advise them about the ill effects of drinking is absolutely hilarious :) No one does that...:) In-fact the govt expanding its TASMAC business and this point doesn't sink at all. But what infact, that is true is - last time when the govt dismissed both MNPS and saalai paniyaalarkal most of them lost their livelihood.

In my panchayath, NONE of the makkal Nala Paniyaalargal are going any kind of Makkal Nala Pani.

They just get the money for being a Makkal Nala Paniyaalar and continue doing their regular work.

Same is the case in all the neighbouring villages and panchayaths. Not even a single person really doing anything.

You can count the number of people that really do justice to this work. 99% are just not doing anything.

Why should the government spend our tax money on these people?

There is no need of such a job if the government officers do their work.

Something has to be done to increase the efficiency of the government officers.

When Amma tries to do something like that she gets the blamed of being hard against 'Arasu Oozhiyargal'. Thaathaa doesnt care what each Arasu Oozhiyar does.

Mr.Nellai

November 11th, 2011, 03:43 PM

In my panchayath, NONE of the makkal Nala Paniyaalargal are going any kind of Makkal Nala Pani.

They just get the money for being a Makkal Nala Paniyaalar and continue doing their regular work.

The 100 days employment scheme in rural parts as well as women self help groups are effectively co-ordinated only by these MNPs.
It is true that the system is not working effectively but this is not the case only with makkal nala paniyaalarkal. Even other govt employees do the same. Why this govt is not taking any action on other employees?

You can count the number of people that really do justice to this work. 99% are just not doing anything.

If that is the case then u have to dismiss all the govt employees ( almost the same % :)) who don't do anything. Why just makkal nala paniyaalarkal?..... And what is the case with salaipaniyaalarkal? ...... Do you say that even salai paniyaalarkal don't work for the salary they receive? :)

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 04:07 PM

The 100 days employment scheme in rural parts as well as women self help groups are effectively co-ordinated only by these MNPs.

If that is the reason why makkal nala paniyalargal exist then what-ever doubt I had in mind is cleared now. These posts deserve aatha treatment.

These makkal nala paniyalargal also get a cut of the wages that they give to the workers benefited on 100 days employment scheme. In return they negotiate with them that they don't have to work. Total unproductive labour and loss of tax payers money

gvijayan

November 11th, 2011, 04:11 PM

Dinamalar Vaasagar Comments on the dismissals of Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal:

Sivakumar Manikandan - uae,ஐக்கிய அரபு நாடுகள்
2011-11-11 19:50:58 IST Report Abuse
மக்கள் நலப் பணியாளர்கள் என்றால என்ன? அவர்களுடைய பணிகள் என்ன? வீணாக மாதம் ்மூணு கோடியே முப்தி எழு லட்சத்து இம்பதஎரம் ரூபா வீனா போகுது .................................
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Rams - tlr,இந்தியா
2011-11-11 19:17:39 IST Report Abuse
It is a criminal waste of money. All these peoples are from DMK cadres and heir relatives. They dont do any job for the welfare of the people. It is criminal waste of money. What CM did is right.
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k.vijayalakshmi - cuddalore,இந்தியா
2011-11-11 17:53:34 IST Report Abuse
இவர்கள் நியமனமே முறைகேடானது இவர்களை பணிநீக்கம் செய்ததால் அரசு ஒன்றும் தவறு செய்யவில்லை. மிகவும் சரியான நடவடிக்கையே. இவர்கள் என்ன வேலை செய்தார்கள் என்று கிராமங்களில் பொய் கேட்டல் தெரியும். தி மு. கவினரால் தன்னிச்சையாக பனி வழங்கப்பட்டவர்கள். அவர்கள் கட்சி பணி செய்துகொண்டிருந்தார்கள்.
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Ramamoorthy Muneeswaran - thiruvadanai,இந்தியா
2011-11-11 17:24:31 IST Report Abuse
இவர்களது பணி என்ன என்பதே இவர்களுக்கு தெரியாத போது இவர்களின் பணி நீக்கம் சரியானதே .......
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jay jay - tirunelveli,இந்தியா
2011-11-11 17:06:01 IST Report Abuse
1 .சமசீர் கல்வியை அடுத்த ஆண்டு அறிமுக படுத்துகிறோம் , பாடங்களை சீர்படுத்த 1 ஆண்டு அதிகம் தேவைபடுது என்று தமிழக அரசு கேட்டால் , அதற்க்கு தடை.. உங்கள் ஆட்சி காலத்தில் ஐந்தாவது ஆண்டில் தானே சமசீர் கல்வியை கொண்டு வந்தீர்கள்; இந்த ஆட்சியில் அதிகம் ஒரு வருடம் தானே கேட்கின்றனர் என்று எதிர்கேள்வி கேட்காதது ஏனோ? இந்த 1 வருடம் சமசீர்ர் கல்வி கற்க வில்லையென்றால் குடியா முழுகி விடும்? 2 . நூலகம் இடம் மாற்ற பிரச்சினையில் , மருத்துவமனை கட்ட வேறே இடமே இல்லையா என கேட்டுள்ளது? நம் நாட்டில் 172 கோடி செலவு பண்ணி நூலகம் தேவையா? நூலகம் 10 கோடியில் கட்டலாமே? 10 கோடியில் புத்தகங்கள் வாங்க என்றாலும் மொத்தம் 25 கோடிக்கு மேலே அதிகம் ஆகாதே... ! மருத்துவமனைக்கு வேறே இடம் இல்லையா என கேட்ட்கும் கனவான்களே, உங்கள் வீட்டு குழந்தைகளுக்கு உள்ளது அப்போல்லோ போன்ற 5 ஸ்டார் மருத்துவமனை ..ஆனால் ஏழைகளுக்கு ? அதை தானே ஜெயலலிதா செய்ய நினைக்கிறார்..3 ,00000 சதுர அடி நூலகம் என்றால் அதை கட்ட 60 கோடி போதுமே? மீதம் 100 கோடி போனதெங்கே என்று ஏன் கேள்வி கேட்கவில்லை ? 172 கோடியில் சட்டமன்றம் வேண்டுமானால் கட்டலாம்...நூலகம் எதற்கு ? ஆனால் கருணாநிதி 1000 கோடிக்கு சட்டமன்றம் கட்டியுள்ளார்...பணத்தை விரயமாக்க ஒரு அளவில்லையா? கருணாநிதி விரயமாக்கிய பணத்தை நல்வழியில் மருதுவமனைகளுக்காக திருப்பிய செயல் வேண்டுமானால் தப்பாக தெரியலாம்? ஆனால் பாமரனுக்கு தப்பாக தெரிய போவது இல்லை என்பது தான் ஜெயலலிதாவின் பலம்..3 ,. இன்று மக்கள் நல பணியாளர்கள் நீக்கத்துக்கு தடை? ஏற்கனவே 2 முறை இருந்த அந்த ஆட்சியில் ஏன் பணி நிரந்தரம் கேட்டு போராடவில்லை ? 2500 சம்பளத்தில் என்ன வேலை செய்ய முடியும் ? வேலையே இல்லாததால் தான் 2500 மாதம் பெற்று கொண்டு சும்மா தண்டத்துக்கு, இவர்கள் பொழப்பு நடந்திருக்கும் ... வேலை ஒழுங்காக செய்திருந்தால் கருணாநிதி காலத்தில் பணி நிரந்தரத்துக்கு இவர்கள் போராடாமல் இருந்திருப்பார்களா? அவர்களை தானே டிஸ்மிஸ் செய்தார் ஜெயலலிதா..... இதில் என்ன தப்பு ? மேற்கூறிய 3 விஷயங்களிலும் ஜெயலலிதா நல்லது தான் செய்துள்ளார்...! சமசீர் கல்வி பற்றிய விழிப்புணர்வு இன்னும் அதிகரித்துள்ளது...கருணா நூலகம்/ சட்டமன்றம் என்று அதிகம் விரயம் பண்ணிய பணம் ஜெயலலிதாவால் சரியான பாதைக்கு திருப்பி விட போக உள்ளது...அடுத்து வெட்டி சம்பளம் வாங்குபவர்களுக்கு பயம் வர ஆரம்பித்துள்ளது ...!

gvijayan

November 11th, 2011, 04:13 PM

The 100 days employment scheme in rural parts as well as women self help groups are effectively co-ordinated only by these MNPs.
It is true that the system is not working effectively but this is not the case only with makkal nala paniyaalarkal. Even other govt employees do the same. Why this govt is not taking any action on other employees?

If that is the case then u have to dismiss all the govt employees ( almost the same % :)) who don't do anything. Why just makkal nala paniyaalarkal?..... And what is the case with salaipaniyaalarkal? ...... Do you say that even salai paniyaalarkal don't work for the salary they receive? :)

Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal is a temporary job. Government reserves the right to dismiss any time. This would have been a clause in their appointment orders itself. Government Oppicers' case is different.

And it is a very well known fact that, these Makkal Nala Paniyaalargal are all DMK pro's and friends and were appointed by the DMK politicos. No proper recreuitment was done. They were just elected at the wish of DMK Maavattams, Vattams, Sathurams and Sevvagams.

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 04:25 PM

As if MNP emosions are not enough, now vikatan emotionalizing on T.Nagar vyaabarigal and their employees issue

ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவா இது?!

http://www.vikatan.com/article.php?aid=12485&sid=340&mid=1

தமிழகத்தின் அங்காடித் தெரு களையிழந்து கிடக்கிறது!

வியப்பும் ஆச்சர்யமும் கலந்த பார்வைகள் மட்டுமே பரவிக் கிடந்த ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவை இப்போது ஏக்கமும் தவிப்பும் நிறைந்த கண்களே வெறித்துப் பார்க்கின்றன. தி.நகரின் அந்த அங்காடித் தெருவுக்குள் தங்கள் அன்றாட வாழ்க்கையைப் புதைத்து வைத்திருந்த உதிரித் தொழிலாளர்களின் பார்வை அது!

நெருக்கடி மிகுந்த இந்தத் தெருவில் உள்ள சில கட்டடங் களில் முறையான அனுமதி பெறாமல் நிறையத் தளங்கள் கட்டப்பட்டு இருக்கின்றன. இவற்றில் ஒரு சின்ன தீவிபத்து நடந்தால்கூட மக்கள் வெளியேற வழி கிடையாது. நெரிசலில் சிக்கிக்கூட அசம்பாவிதங்கள் ஏற்பட வாய்ப்பு உண்டு. எந்தக் கட்டடத்திலும் பார்க்கிங் வசதி கிடையாது. சென்னை மாநகராட்சியும், சென்னை பெருநகர வளர்ச்சிக் குழுமமும் 64 கட்டடங் களுக்கு சீல் வைத்து இழுத்து மூடிவிட்டன. வணிகத்தின் ஒரு பகுதி பாதிக்கப்பட்டது பெரு நிறுவனங்களின் முதலாளிகளைக் கவலையில் ஆழ்த்த... ஜவுளிக் கடைத் தொழிலாளர்கள், டெய்லர்கள், நடைபாதை வியாபாரிகள் ஆகியோர் பிழைப்பே பறிபோன பதற்றத்தில் இருக்கிறார்கள். ''இதனால் 20,000 தொழிலா ளர்கள் பாதிக்கப்பட்டு இருக்கிறார்கள்'' என்கிறார் வணிகர் சங்கத் தலைவர் த.வெள்ளையன்.

பரபரப்பாகவே பார்த்துப் பழக்கப்பட்ட ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவுக்குள் ஆட்டோவோ காரோ... ஏன், ஒரு பைக்கூடச் செல்ல முடியாது. ஆனால் இன்று... ''என் இத்தனை வருஷ அனுபவத்துல பகல் 11 மணிக்கு இந்தத் தெருவுக்குள்ள ஒரு கார் போனதைப் பார்த்ததே இல்லை!'' என்று அங்கலாய்க்கும் விஜயலட்சுமி, ''நான் பீஸ் புடிக்கிற வேலை பார்க்கிறேன். பீஸ் புடிக்கிறதுன்னா... சுடிதார் மெட்டீரியல் வாங்குறவங்களை கேன்வாஸ் பண்ணி டெய்லர் கடைக்கு அழைச்சுட்டுப் போற வேலை.. ஒரு பீஸ் புடிச்சுக் கொடுத்தா, பத்து ரூபா கிடைக்கும். ஒரு நாள் பூரா அலைஞ்சு திரிஞ்சா, இருநூறோ முந்நூறோ கிடைக்கும். ஆனா, அதுலயும் இப்போ மண்ணு விழுந்திருச்சு'' என்றார்.

சுடிதார்கள் தைத்துக்கொடுக்கும் தையல்காரர்கள் நிலைமை இன்னும் கொடுமை. அவர்கள் வேலை செய்துகொண்டு இருந்த கட்ட டத்துக்கு மொத்தமாக சீல் வைத்து விட்டதால், 'இன்றாவது திறப்பார்களா?’ என்று ஒவ்வொரு நாளும் பூட்டிய கடை முன் வந்து நின்று ஏமாந்து திரும்புகிறார்கள்.

''எங்க குடும்பம் எல்லாம் இப்போ நடுத்தெருவுல நிக்குது. ராத்திரி பகல் பார்க்காம தீபாவளிக்குச் சம்பாரிச்ச காசுல ரெண்டாயிரம் ரூபா மிச்சம் இருக்கு. அது தீர்ற வரைக்கும் வண்டி ஓடும். அப்புறம் என்ன பண்றதுனு தெரியலை. வேற எங்கேயாவது வேலைக்குப் போகலாம்னா, சென்னை யில எல்லா ஏரியாவிலும் ஏற்கெனவே ஆளுங்க இருக்காங்களே. அப்புறம் இங்க கிடைக்குற வருமானம் அங்க கிடைக்காது. ஒரு சுடிதார் தைச்சா 25 ரூபா கிடைக்கும். முதலாளிகிட்ட நான் வாங்கின முப்பதாயிரத்தைக் கழிக்கிற வரை வேற எங்கயும் வேலைக்குப் போக முடியாது. போறதா இருந்தா, அந்தப் பணத்தை எண்ணிவெச்சுட்டுத்தான் போகணும். திடீர்னு அவ்வளவு பணத்துக்கு எங்கே போவோம் நாங்கள்லாம்?'' என்ற கேள்விக்கு யாரிடமும் பதில் இல்லை.

ஜவுளிக் கடைகளில் வேலை பார்த்தவர் களின் கதி இன்னும் பரிதாபம். அவர்களில் பெரும்பாலானவர்கள் வெளியூர்களில் இருந்து வந்து தங்கி வேலை செய்தவர்கள். ஓரிரு நாட்களுக்கு அவர்களுக்கு உணவளித்த கடை முதலாளிகள், உடனடியாகப் பிரச்னைக்குத் தீர்வு எட்டப்படும் சாத்தியம் இல்லாததால், அவர்களை ஊருக்குக் கிளம்பச் சொல்லி விட்டார்கள். வருமானம் இழந்து எதிர் காலம் புரியாமல் விக்கித்துப்போய் இருக் கிறார்கள் அவர்கள். இப்படி வேலையையும் இழந்து, ஊருக்குப் போகும் மனமும் இல்லாமல் ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவிலேயே அலைந்துகொண்டு இருந்த ஓர் இளைஞ ரிடம் பேசினேன்.

''தங்கச்சிக்குக் கல்யாணம் வெச்சிருக்கு. ஆனா, இப்போ என்ன செய்றதுன்னே தெரியலை. அம்மா நாலு வீட்டுக்குப் போய் வேலை செஞ்சுக்கிட்டு இருந்தாங்க. நான் தான் இனிமே நீ வேலைக்குப் போக வேண்டாம்னு சொல்லி நிப்பாட்டினேன். இப்போ வேற வழி இல்லாம அவங்க திரும்ப வீட்டு வேலைக்குப் போக ஆரம்பிச்சுட்டாங்க. எனக்கு என்ன செய்யிறதுன்னே தெரியலை. திரும்பவும் எங்களைக் கூப்பிடுவாங்களா?' - அவரது ஒவ்வொரு வார்த்தை களிலும் இயலாமையும் கழிவிரக்கமும். தன் கல்யாணத்துக்கு தானே பணம் சேர்க்கும் இளம் பெண்களும் குடும்பத்தில் சம்பாதிக்கும் ஒரே நபராகவும் இருக்கும் பெண்களுக்கும் வறுமை இப்போது இரட்டிப்பாகி இருக்கிறது.

பொதுவாகவே, ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவுக்கு வருபவர்களை நம்பியே உள்ள நடைபாதை வியாபாரிகளின் வருமானத்திலும் இப்போது மண்!

ரெங்கநாதன் தெருவின் நடுவில் பேச்சுலர்களின் பேரடைஸாக இருக்கும் 'அன்னம்மாள் பில்டிங்’கில் தங்கி இருக்கும் புகழேந்தி, அன்றைய தின நிகழ்வுகளைப் பகிர்ந்துகொண்டார்.

''அன்னைக்கு அதிகாலையில ஒரு நிமிஷம்கூட அவகாசம் கொடுக்கவில்லை போலீஸ். கட்டின கைலி, பனியனோட வெளியே துரத்திட்டாங்க. துணிமணி, சர்டிஃபிகேட், பாஸ்போர்ட், பணம்னு எதையும் எடுக்கவிடலை. சீல் வெச்சுட்டுப் போயிட்டாங்க. பரீட்சை எழுதற ஹால் டிக்கெட்டைக்கூட எடுக்க முடியாம தவிச்சுப் போயிட்டான் என் நண்பன். சில பசங்க ஊருக்குப் போயிட்டாங்க. பலர் கிடைச்ச இடத்துல ஒண்டிக்கிட்டு இருக்காங்க. ஏதோ குற்றவாளிகளை விரட்டுற மாதிரி எங்களை போலீஸ் விரட்டி அடிச்சதை எப்பவும் மறக்க முடியாதுங்க!'' - ஆற்றாமையுடன் புகழேந்தி சொல்வதை ஆமோதிப்பதுபோல காற்றில் அசைந்தாடின மாடிக் கொடியில் காய்ந்துகொண்டு இருந்த, சேகரிக்கப்படாத அவர்களின் துணிகள்!

கடை முதலாளிகளின் கவனமோ, குறைந்துவிட்ட லாபத்தில் இருக்கிறது. அரசின் கவனமோ, பொது நல வழக்கின் நடவடிக்கைகளை முடுக்கிவிடுவதில் இருக்கிறது. ஆனால், உதிரித் தொழிலாளிகளின் கவனமோ அடுத்த வேளை சோற்றுக்கு என்ன செய்வது என்பதில் இருக்கிறது!

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அம்ம கவின் மலர் அவர்களே,

உங்கள் கட்டுரை நன்றாக இருந்தது. உங்கள் எழுத்து திறமைக்கு பாராட்டுக்கள்.

பாதிக்கப்பட்ட தொழிலாளர்களுக்காக வருத்தப்படுகிறேன். அதே நேரத்தில் சில உண்மைகளைக்கூற ஆசைப்படுகிறேன்.

1986 முதல் ஏப்ரல் முதல் 1995 ஜுலை வரை இதே ரெஙநாதன் தெருவில்தான் ஒரு அறையில், லாட்ஜில் மாத வாடகைக்கு தங்கியிருந்தேன்.

எம்.ஜி.ஆர். இறந்தபோதும், ராஜிவ் காந்தி மரணத்தின்போதும் சாப்பாட்டிற்க்கு வழியில்லாமல் பட்டினி கிடந்திருக்கிறோம்.

இதே நடை பாதை வியாபாரிகள்தான் எம்.ஜி.ஆர்.இறந்த நாளில் ஒரு பச்சை வாழைப்பழம் பத்து ரூபாய்க்கு விற்றார்கள். நினைவில் வைத்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள் (எம்.ஜி.ஆர். இறந்த நாளன்று ஒரு வாழைப்பழம் பத்து ரூபாய்).

ஹிந்து பேப்பரின் அத்தனை இணைப்புகளையும் எடைக்குப் போடுவதற்க்கு எடுத்து கொண்டு 1.85 க்கு விற்க வேண்டிய பேப்பரை 3 ரூபாய்க்கு விற்றுசில்லரை இல்லை என்று கொள்ளையடித்தார்கள்.(இவர்கள் திடீர் செய்தித்தாள் வியாபாரிகள் ஆனார்கள்).

இந்த காலகட்டத்தில் தான் ஒரு முறை தீபாவளிக்கு இரண்டு நாள் முன்பு, மாம்பலம் இரயில் நிலையத்தை ஒட்டி இருந்த ஆர்.ஆர். ஸ்டோர் அருகே ஒரு திடீர் பட்டாசுக்கடையில் தீ விபத்து நடந்தது. தீயணைப்பு வண்டி மேட்லி சாலை வழியாக வந்து தீயை அணைப்பதற்க்குள் அங்கே குடியிருந்தவர்கள்தான் உதவி செய்தோம். இந்த நடை பாதை வியாபாரிகள் யாரையும் காணவில்லை.

இங்கே கடைகள் வைத்திருப்பவர்களும், விடுதிகள் வைத்திருப்பவர்களும் பாதிக்கப்பட்டவர்களைப்போல நினைக்காதீர்கள். உண்மையில் பாதிக்கப்பட்டவர்கள் வயிற்றுப்பிழைப்புக்காக வந்தவர்கள்தான். இங்கே உள்ள விடுதிகளில் கழுவுவதற்க்குக்கூட தண்ணீர் வசதி கிடையாது. அதிக பட்சம் அரை மணி நேரம் தண்ணீர் திறந்து விடுவார்கள்.அ

இம்பது அறைக்கு 3 பாத்ரூம்கள். 3 கழிவறைகள். அரை மணி நேரமே தண்ணீர் சப்ளை. இந்த லட்சணத்தில் குடிமகன்களின் கொட்டம். வீக் எண்ட் குடிகாரர்களின் அட்டகாசம். அவர்களிடம் காசு வாங்கிக் கொண்டு கமிஷன் பெற்றுக் கொண்டு கண்டுகொள்ளாதிருக்கும் விடுதி உரிமையாளர்கள். குடிப்பழக்கம் இல்லதாவனுக்கு இந்த விடுதி உரிமையாளர்கள் வைத்திருந்த பெயர் கற்புக்கரசர்கள். நீங்கள் குறிப்பிட்டிருக்கும் விடுதியும் அதற்க்கு விதிவிலக்கல்ல.

ஒரே ஒரு ஆறுதல் சரவண பவன் ஓட்டலில் மட்டும் ராஜிவ் காந்தி இறந்த அன்று பணியாளர்களுக்கு சமைத்திருந்த உணவை,ரெகுலராக அங்கே சாப்பிட்டுக் கொண்டிருந்த விடுதிவாழ் இளைஞர்களுக்கு காசு வாங்கிக் கொள்ள மாட்டோம் என்று சொல்லி சாப்பிடக்கொடுத்தார்கள். சாப்பாடு பொட்டலமும் கட்டிக் கொடுத்தார்கள்.

மற்றபடி அத்தனை நடை பாதை வியாபாரிகளும், மற்ற வியாபாரிகளும் அடித்த கொள்ளை சொல்லிமாளாது.

அந்த நான்கு நாட்களும் ரெஙநாதன் தெரு இரண்டாவது படத்தில் உள்ளது போலத்தான் இருந்தது.

kongutamizhan

November 11th, 2011, 04:39 PM

அரை கொத்தரிசி அன்ன தானம் . விடிய விடிய மேள தாளம் .

By the way, what does your signature mean? just curious

Mr.Nellai

November 11th, 2011, 08:21 PM

By the way, what does your signature mean? just curious

It can be interpreted in 2 diff ways

in ancient period people used to give annadhaanam to temple (even now people give but rarely) during kodai vila. The one who donates more will be more humble and will be silent, but the one who gave just a half ulakku/pakka rice will inform to everyone that he had done something that no one else has done . Literally iravumuluvathum melathaalam means showing a boastful behavior for a trivial thing.

In santhanam pashai " பச்ச தண்ணி குடிச்சிட்டு பாயாசம் குடிச்ச மாதிரி சமாளிக்கிறது" (:lol: it closely matches the actual meaning but still worth to mention)

The second interpretation is close to the previous one, here people do something trivial, they get something unexpected and they boast themselves for the achievement. even in some cases torture others with this achievement :lol:. This way of interpretation fits well with aatha.

In villages they use the same saying in 2 or more different circumstances than the one mentioned above.

muthu_krish

November 12th, 2011, 12:50 AM

It can be interpreted in 2 diff ways

in ancient period people used to give annadhaanam to temple (even now people give but rarely) during kodai vila. The one who donates more will be more humble and will be silent, but the one who gave just a half ulakku/pakka rice will inform to everyone that he had done something that no one else has done . Literally iravumuluvathum melathaalam means showing a boastful behavior for a trivial thing.

In santhanam pashai " பச்ச தண்ணி குடிச்சிட்டு பாயாசம் குடிச்ச மாதிரி சமாளிக்கிறது" (:lol: it closely matches the actual meaning but still worth to mention)

The second interpretation is close to the previous one, here people do something trivial, they get something unexpected and they boast themselves for the achievement. even in some cases torture others with this achievement :lol:. This way of interpretation fits well with aatha.

In villages they use the same saying in 2 or more different circumstances than the one mentioned above.

:applause:

Arul Murugan

November 12th, 2011, 01:22 AM

Vicvin86

November 12th, 2011, 11:29 AM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=303037673058522&set=a.303037239725232.90768.100000568766953&type=1&ref=nf
I dont think login is required to view..

kannan infratech

November 12th, 2011, 08:08 PM

Nellai

Enna vaiko or nanjil sampath kathu unga pakkamum adikutha ?

Pinni pedal edukkerangale

kongutamizhan

November 12th, 2011, 08:33 PM

new samsung 10.1 galaxy tab or ipad 2.0? #an undecided consumer which is me:)

inputs please..

bonoslack7

November 12th, 2011, 10:21 PM

^^ http://reviews.cnet.com/apple-ipad-2-review/

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-10/4505-3126_7-34505338.html?tag=rb_content;contentBody

bonoslack7

November 12th, 2011, 10:23 PM

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/massive-collections-in-swiss-black-money-probe/874976/0

Investigations say they have already mopped up a “massive amount” — running into “hundreds of crores” — as unpaid taxes from among the 700 numbered bank accounts held by Indians in HSBC Bank in Geneva in the ongoing scrutiny of what is considered a sprawling black money trail.

In fact, Rs 40 crore has been recovered from Delhi-based account holders and Rs 60 crore from just one account holder in Chennai alone.

As reported first by The Indian Express (August 8, 2011), it was in July that French authorities passed on details of these accounts to India.

Of the total list, 70 account holders were based in Delhi and 18 of them were searched while six account holders volunteered to pay their tax dues.

To date, the HSBC Delhi list has yielded unpaid taxes to the tune of Rs 40 crore with account holders understood to have been holding between Rs 7 crore and Rs 40 crore in their accounts. Said a key official: “It is only in two cases that investigation showed taxes had been paid as per norms. Over 95% of the deposits can be described as black money. The case, we hope, will be a deterrent for others who are holding huge deposits in banks abroad.’’

Significantly, officials said that while only unpaid taxes have been collected so far, once the entire exercise is over, penal action and a possible routing of the banking details to the Enforcement Directorate (ED) will follow.

The information on the numbered accounts posed a challenge since in a third of the 700 cases, complete data was not available.

The information supplied is in the form of name of account holder; the beneficiary; the name of the person who opened the account; the passport number; the name of the banker; date of opening and closing the account and the balance (till year 2007, but not in all cases). There are no signatures of either the account holder or beneficiaries of the numbered accounts.

The I-T authorities, thus, decided to first search those account holders where all the details had come in from France. Communiques have also been sent to the HSBC Bank to furnish all transaction details for the 700 accounts but no response has been received as yet.

Sources said the bank has alerted all its account holders that their confidentiality clause had been violated on account of data theft by an ex-employee.

Mr.Nellai

November 13th, 2011, 04:38 AM

Nellai

Enna vaiko or nanjil sampath kathu unga pakkamum adikutha ?

Pinni pedal edukkerangale

Avunga rendu perum palam thinnu kottai potta arasiyal vaathinga. Nan etho valanthukittu varutha arasiyal vaathi :lol: enna poi avanga kooda compare panreengale :)

Kunil143

November 13th, 2011, 06:24 AM

சென்னை:ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை குறித்து பொதுமக்களிடையே விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்த, 15 லட்சம் துண்டு பிரசுரங்களை வினியோகிக்கும் பணியை தமிழக தபால் துறை துவக்கியுள்ளது.இந்திய பிரத்யேக அடையாள அட்டை ஆணையத்துடன் மேற்கொண்ட புரிந்துணர்வு ஒப்பந்தத்தின் கீழ், இந்திய தபால் துறை, அடையாள அட்டை வழங்குவதற்கான பதிவு செய்யும் பணியை மேற்கொண்டுள்ளது.தமிழக தபால் வட்டம், கடந்த அக்., 25ம் தேதி, அடையாள அட்டை பெற பதிவு செய்யும் பணியைத் துவக்கியது.

சென்னையில், கடந்த நவ., 1ம் தேதி முதல், அண்ணா சாலை, மயிலை, தி.நகர் மற்றும் பூங்கா நகர் பகுதிகளில் உள்ள தலைமை தபால் நிலையங்களில் பதிவு செய்யும் பணியை விரிவுப்படுத்தியது.தமிழகத்தில், அடையாள அட்டை பெற பதிவு செய்யும் பணியை மூன்று கட்டமாக செயல்படுத்தும் பணியை, தமிழக தபால் வட்டம் விரைவுபடுத்தியுள்ளது.
இந்நிலையில், வரும் நவ., 21ம் தேதி முதல், தமிழகத்தில் உள்ள 31 மாவட்ட தலைமை தபால் நிலையங்களுக்கும், "ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை' பெற பதிவு செய்யும் பணி விரிவுப்படுத்தப்படுகிறது.

சென்னையில் வரும் 30ம் தேதி முதல், மேலும் 50 தபால் நிலையங்களில் அடையாள அட்டை பெற பதிவு செய்யும் வசதியைப் பெற முடியும். "ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை' மூலம் பல்வேறு பணிகள், பயன்களைப் பெற முடியும். வங்கிக் கணக்கு துவக்கவும், மருத்துவத்துக்கும், மொபைல் போன் இணைப்பு பெறவும், இந்த ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை பயனுள்ளதாக இருக்கும்.அடையாள அட்டை பெற பதிவு செய்யும் வசதியை விரிவுப்படுத்தும் முன், அந்தந்த பகுதியைச் சேர்ந்த தபால்காரர்கள் மூலம், பொதுமக்களிடையே ஆதார் அடையாள அட்டை குறித்து விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்தும் துண்டு பிரசுரங்களை வினியோகிக்க, தபால் துறை முடிவு செய்துள்ளது.
தமிழகத்தில், 15 லட்சம் துண்டு பிரசுரங்கள் மூலம் விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்தும் பணியை துவக்கியுள்ளது.

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=347912&Print=1

bonoslack7

November 13th, 2011, 04:21 PM

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/software/blackberry-bullish-on-mobile-apps-development-market-in-india/articleshow/10714790.cms

Research In Motion India (RIM), the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, has said it sees huge opportunities in mobile applications development in India.

The Canada-headquartered RIM currently has over 55 million BlackBerry subscriber accounts, and BlackBerry AppWorld is available in over 100 markets worldwide.

"We see huge opportunity in mobile application development. BlackBerry App World currently has 26,000-odd registered developers from India, against 5,000 two years ago, with the applications numbering over 40,000," RIM India head of alliance and developer relations Annie Mathew told PTI.

The company, in a pilot project in Tamil Nadu, is also training engineering students to help them develop applications. "We have commenced pilot project in Tamil Nadu for applications created by youths for youths. We are keen to take this project across the country," Mathew said.

The company has a 70:30 revenue share, where the app developer gets the major chunk. Over 80 percent of these apps are developed by partners, the rest are in-house. RIM is also working with the government's E-governance projects for health and education, she said.

RIM is launching NFC (near field communications) wireless technology in the country. "We are looking at launching the NFC application here by November-end, which will benefit the domestic healthcare industry immensely. Through NFC, pharma companies will be able to get data from consumers instantly.

RIM sees NFC powering various kinds of apps. For instance, at workplace, NFC could transfer the credentials stored on an ID card to a BlackBerry, allowing user to ditch the card and just carry the phone. It could also let users wirelessly exchange business cards.

kongutamizhan

November 13th, 2011, 06:36 PM

http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=348045

கோவை : தமிழக வனத்துறை ஊழியர்கள் பெரும்பாலானோர், உடல் தகுதியின்றி இருப்பது, வனத்துறை விளையாட்டுப் போட்டியில் அம்பலமானது. தமிழக வனத்துறை ஊழியர்களுக்கான விளையாட்டுப் போட்டி, ஆண்டுதோறும் கோவையில் உள்ள மாநில வனக்கல்லூரி விளையாட்டுத் திடலில் நடத்தப்படுகிறது. இந்த ஆண்டில், 19வது மாநில விளையாட்டுப் போட்டிகள், நேற்று துவங்கி, இன்று முடிவடையவுள்ளன. தமிழகத்தில், சேலம், தர்மபுரி, மதுரை, வேலூர், கோவை, விருதுநகர், திருநெல்வேலி, திருச்சி, திண்டுக்கல், சென்னை, விழுப்புரம் மற்றும் ஈரோடு என 12 வன மண்டலங்கள் உள்ளன. அந்த மண்டலங்களில் உள்ள வனக்கோட்டங்களைத் தவிர்த்து, ஆனைமலை, முதுமலை மற்றும் களக்காடு முண்டந்துறை புலிகள் காப்பகங்களும் உள்ளன. இந்த வனப்பகுதிகளிலும், வன அலுவலகங்களிலும் பணியாற்றும் ஊழியர்களில் 809 பேர், விளையாட்டுப் போட்டிகளில் பங்கேற்க கோவை வந்துள்ளனர். இவர்களில், 45 வயது வரையிலான ஆண்கள், 40 வரையிலான பெண்கள், 45லிருந்து 53 வயது வரையிலான ஆண்கள் மூத்தோர் பிரிவு உட்பட 5 பிரிவுகளாகப் பிரித்து, விளையாட்டுப் போட்டிகள் நடத்தப்படுகின்றன. வழக்கம்போல், ஒவ்வொரு ஆண்டும் விளையாட்டுப்போட்டி துவங்குவதற்கு முன்பாக நடக்கும் வனத்துறை அலுவலர்களின் அணி வகுப்பும் நேற்று நடந்தது. வனத்துறை அமைச்சராகப் பொறுப்பேற்ற பின், முதல் முறையாக கோவை வந்த பச்சைமால் உள்ளிட்டோருக்கு, மண்டல வாரியாக வந்து சீருடை ஊழியர்கள் அணி வகுப்பு மரியாதை செலுத்தினர். காலை 9.00 மணிக்கு, விழா துவங்குவதாக அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தது. அணி வகுப்பில் பங்கேற்கும் விளையாட்டு வீரர்கள் (!?), சீருடை சகிதமாக 8.30 மணிக்கெல்லாம் மைதானத்துக்கு வந்து விட்டனர்; அமைச்சர்கள் பறக்க விடும் பலூனைக் கட்டிக் கொண்டு, வனத்துறையின் கீழ் மட்ட ஊழியர்கள் சிலர், காலை 7.30 மணிக்கே அங்கு வந்து விட்டனர். ஆனால், அமைச்சர்கள் அங்கு வந்த போது 9.45 மணிக்கு மேலாகி விட்டது. அணி வகுப்பு துவங்க, 10.00 மணிக்கு மேலாகி விட்டது. அமைச்சர்கள், வன அதிகாரிகள் பேசி முடிக்க, 11.30 மணிக்கு மேலாகி விட்டது. அதன் பின்பே, விளையாட்டுப் போட்டிகள் துவங்கின.

காலையிலிருந்து காத்துக்கிடந்த வன ஊழியர்களைப் பார்த்தபோது, அவர்கள் மீது பரிதாபம் ஏற்படுவதற்குப் பதிலாக, தாங்க முடியாத சிரிப்புதான் வந்தது; காரணம், அணிவகுப்பில் அந்த ஊழியர்கள் பலரையும் முந்திக்கொண்டு வந்த அவர்களின் வயிறுதான். பரந்து விரிந்த காட்டைப் பாதுகாக்க வேண்டிய பொறுப்பிலுள்ள வன அலுவலர்கள் பலரும், உடல் தகுதியின்றி இருப்பது, அந்த அணிவகுப்பில் அம்பலமானது. டி.எப்.ஓ., மற்றும் வனப்பாதுகாவலர், தலைமை வனப்பாதுகாவலர் போன்ற பொறுப்புகளில் உள்ள ஐ.எப்.எஸ்., அதிகாரிகள் பெரும்பாலானவர்கள், நல்ல உடல் தகுதியுடன் காணப்பட்டாலும், அவர்கள் உள் அரங்க விளையாட்டுகளில்தான் காணப்பட்டனர். ரேஞ்சர் அந்தஸ்துக்கு வருவதற்குள், வயதாகி, பலவித வியாதிகளையும், பெருத்த வயிறையும் சுமக்கும் இவர்களால், பரந்த காட்டை எப்படிக் காப்பாற்ற முடியும் என்பதுதான் கேள்வி; நல்ல உடல் திறனுள்ள இளைஞர்களை சீருடைப் பணியாளர் தேர்வாணையம் மூலமாக வனப்பணிக்கு எடுத்தால் மட்டுமே வனத்துறை, வலுவுள்ள துறையாகும்; வன ஆண்டில் இதுபற்றி அரசு யோசிப்பது நல்லது.