Any chance anyone would be kind enough to post english summary of the Thuglak reports? (Can post in the Gujarat Discussions thread if not here)

But just to clarify an issue that seem to have come up:

As far as Nuclear plant is concerned, they are probably talking about the upcoming 6000MW nuclear plant at Mithi Virdi nr Bhavnagar link (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/surat/Centre-state-plan-rehab-package-for-Mithi-Virdi-N-plant/articleshow/9582972.cms)

Much like in TN, after the Japan tsunami, there had been an agitation against this project led by a Congress sponsored "rebel" BJP leader who describes industrialisation as "Asura Shakti" (demon power) :ohno: But, nonetheless, the link posted from Aug 2011 is the most recent news I am aware of regarding the project (until Thuglak it seems?)

Forget about thuglak supports bJP, Modi mastan etc...
1.but how many villages in TN have better facilities when compared to GJ?
2. How many cities has better power than Gujarat cities?
3. what is the cost of school education in GJ vs TN?
4. since in TN, we had good TNSTC...that is not only the "golden" point...(though some of the key cities are not connected by 4 lane, still we can reach any part of TN for 24 hrs.)
5. How many railway projects GJ has got inspite of Modi is cornered by left, central..etc..

My final conclusion is TN is having
TN has good talented human resources.
well connected by road..
unfortunately both the parties DMK/ADMK ruined has. still we are developing because "change is the one which we could not control". they are forced to do few things and those few things helping us to develop.
TN has not grown to its full potential. the growth we are seen is just because of 10 to 15% good things they need to do..

does this demand include or exclude power thiruttu and transmission loss?

That 8240 figure also includes both.

சங்கரன்கோவில்: மதிமுகவை "தோற்கடிக்கவே' திமுக போட்டி!
வைகோவின் சொந்த ஊரான கலிங்கப்பட்டியை உள்ளடக்கிய சங்கரன்கோவில் தொகுதியில் மதிமுகவுக்கு கணிசமான வாக்கு வாங்கி உண்டு.

கடந்த 1996 சட்டப் பேரவைத் தேர்தலில் மார்க்சிஸ்ட், ஜனதா தளம் ஆகிய கட்சிகளுடன் கூட்டணி அமைத்து போட்டியிட்ட மதிமுக சுமார் 30 ஆயிரம் வாக்குகளைப் பெற்றது. அடுத்து 2001 சட்டப் பேரவைத் தேர்தலில் தனித்து போட்டியிட்டு சுமார் 21 ஆயிரம் வாக்குகளை பெற்றது.

இப்போதைய இடைத்தேர்தலில் இரண்டாவது இடத்தையாவது பெற்று தனது பலத்தை நிரூபிக்க வேண்டும் என்பதில் மதிமுக தலைமை தீவிரமாக உள்ளது. அவ்வாறு நிரூபித்தால்தான் 2014 மக்களவைத் தேர்தலில் பெரிய கட்சிகளுடன் கூட்டணி அமைக்கவும், கணிசமான தொகுதிகளைப் பெறவும் தளம் கிடைக்கும் என கருதுவதாகத் தெரிகிறது.

திமுகவின் அடுத்த தலைவராக ஸ்டாலினை ஏற்க மறுத்து அக்கட்சியிலிருந்து வெளியேறிய வைகோ, அதன் பின்பு திமுகவுடன் கூட்டணியும் வைத்துக் கொண்டார்.

எனினும், இரு தரப்புக்கும் இடையிலான "கசப்பு' மறைந்து விட்டதாக கருத இடமில்லை. எனவே, மதிமுகவின் அரசியல் வளர்ச்சியை திமுக ஒருபோதும் ஏற்காது என்பது அரசியல் நோக்கர்களின் கருத்து.

அதேபோல், சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத்தேர்தல் வெற்றி உறுதியில்லை என்றாலும் இரண்டாவது இடத்தைப் பெற்று மதிமுகவை ஓரங்கட்ட வேண்டும் என்பதில் திமுக தலைமை உறுதியாக இருப்பதன் வெளிப்பாடே போட்டி முடிவு என்பது அக்கட்சியினரின் கருத்து.
Even though all parties are contesting alone and without any alliance, this can not be gauged for strength of each party.
Because it is a By-election. ruling party will use all its machines to win this. People will also vote for ruling party only to get some benefits.
so if opposition parties contesting alone, will not be useful at all..
Both Vaiko and Cap10 has to be realistic and sensible. They can not form the govt until they are united.
they need to form an alliance to collect all the votes which are against DMK/ADMK.
but that is also not possible between Vaiko and Cap10.
so 2016..will be Stalin again..

krishnasamy,

What is TN vs GJ in the following

IT export

Auto mobile production share

Auto mobile component share

Tire Manufacting share

Electronic Manufacturing(EMS)

Engg./Medical colleges capacity

Boiler manufacturing capacity (Trichy is overflowing with them but power is issue)

Pumps/Grinder/Textile - Coimbatore/Tiruppur belt

Renewable energy - Wind power highest in India

Tourism - Highest in India though not high end

Movies/Entertainment industry

There could be many more I missed..

when thuglak writter can travel 2000KM+ from Chennai to dig out 6000MW power plant u/c in GJ.. I wonder how long it will take for them to dig out such project u/c/planned in TN.
It is just a BJP tamil mouth piece, nothing special about it.:)
Arul,
these words are not expected from you..since you oppose Thuglak, you should not oppose the facts.
If you claim TN is better in wind energy, solar energy, then why the hell we are having power cuts for most part of the day?
Be open minded to accept the facts...whether it is from Thuglak or murasoli..

No doubt, GJ is moving forward and we are struggling back due to our politicians.
Our TN politicians are not willing to do constructively for the development of state, except "TASMAC".

When a article is written like this the intention is not to compare based on facts.
These articles are to highlight the problem like power cuts.

I don't have any problem with this article glorifying GJ. What frustrated me is the gross misrepresentation of facts like 6000MW nuclear power plant and 14 airports. Plus the stats thrown about GJ contributing 35% of India's petrochem and 30% gas, all that were there even before Modi was in the scene. As a person who has been watching GJ's industrial scenario for years, GJ was the undisputed leader in Petrochem and Pharma since long back. Showing that as Modi's achievement is highly condemnable.

If thuglak wants to give any credit to Modi, they should have given credit for being competitve(considered rat race by some friends here) in getting auto investments by showering huge sops on investors.

when thuglak writter can travel 2000KM+ from Chennai to dig out 6000MW power plant u/c in GJ.. I wonder how long it will take for them to dig out such project u/c/planned in TN.

It is just a BJP tamil mouth piece, nothing special about it.:)

I don't have any problem with this article glorifying GJ. What frustrated me is the gross misrepresentation of facts like 6000MW nuclear power plant and 14 airports. Plus the stats thrown about GJ contributing 35% of India's petrochem and 30% gas, all that were there even before Modi was in the scene. As a person who has been watching GJ's industrial scenario for years, GJ was the undisputed leader in Petrochem and Pharma since long back. Showing that as Modi's achievement is highly condemnable.

If thuglak wants to give any credit to Modi, they should have given credit for being competitve(considered rat race by some friends here) in getting auto investments by showering huge sops on investors.
sir,
Please look at the stats of GJ before Modi and After Modi..

Renewable energy - Wind power highest in India
yes ..yes.. Wind power is highest in TN.. that is why we are having powercuts for 12 hrs..:lol::lol::lol:

Kaathu adikka mattenguthe...

but ella kaathum GJ pakkam poiduchu athu than..
who is having better life?
1. comman man in chennai or Ahmedabad?
2. farmer in TN village or Farmer in GJ?
3. industrialist in GJ or industrialist in TN?
4. corruption in TN or corruption in GJ?
5. Railway projects in TN or railwayprojects in GJ?
6. Still we are recovering from Sunami whereas GJ recovered from massive earthquake in Bhuj..
7. merchants in Surat or merchants in Tiruppur?

there are few more samples.

attitude is the problem in lot of people. they will not accept the facts and instead of it shouting high about their past glory.

We(TN) are failed to take our advantages., whereas GJ is developing inspite of their minus points.

none of them are past glory..everything happened in the past decade or two..come out of the shell and smell some fresh air..

Agreed power is the issue now (hoping by 2013 we should be surplus if atleast half of the projects from arul's list is complete) and
so is the water as pakkathu manilam not obeying SC verdict..

I dont want to fight.. but after going through the few posts, it looks people are just raising their voice because it is from "thuglak" and it is about "BJP".

Magazines duties are talking about good and bad.. it does not mean that they need to write only about bad against government.

Obviously Hindu will not write about it, because they are commies.
Dinakaran will not write about it because they are DMK mouthpiece.
Dinamani or Indian Express will not write about it, because as per their agreement, they should not touch "West" region..
Dinamalar.. crap in TN.. how they can cover indiawise?
daily thanthi.: no comments..
TOI: paid news paper. If there is sign of BJP comes to central, they will start writing about BJP.. till now they are stopping with cong only.
So we do not have any body who can write about good things in other states...
what is wrong in Thuglak writing about it?

GJ was a industrialized state before Modi and
but Modi's achievement is in getting 4% growth in Agri and good water and power management and achieving all this without liquor revenues is indeed an achievement

2013 la power sector theruma?

Supply side incentives(Gj) vs Demand side incentives(TN)

Can someone(economics expert) analyze/compare Supply side incentives as provided by GJ (Interest free loans, deferred taxes etc) or Demand side incentives as provided by TN(free tv, mixie,grinder etc) has helped spur manufacturing. In the long run which will be better model for development ?

Is there any examples we can look at around the world to get a better understanding of the 2 models ?

hmm, i thought someone will try summarize, these are the takeaways from this, these are the points or lessons from their experience, we must strive to go one up on that aspect while ensuring we continue to stay one up on things we r already.

instead it is always wasting energy.sad.

that man takes state forward because, if he saw even in good idea in a north east state he takes it and adopts it. this vetti ego doesnt helps.

No doubt, GJ is moving forward and we are struggling back due to our politicians.
Our TN politicians are not willing to do constructively for the development of state, except "TASMAC".
TASMAC is awesome. Otherwise half of Chennai will be in Sulurpettai and Tada just like the probation days... I can post cartoons from late 60s and early 80s that critise TN govt for inaction in power sector. But we were power surplus from late eighties to mid 2000. Thinking all is lost in just 3 years is not correct.

these are the reports collected from the people. they might not know who has done it..
anyway there are lot of +ve things right.. why not look into this?
could we imagine mineral water in village?
could we imagine 100% water supply to village?
Atleaset, TN can install meters for farmer's electricity and regulate it? no way....
For the highlighted part only people are responsible not govt. Its a well known fact how free current was(still is) misused in the heydays.

But we were power surplus from late eighties to mid 2000. Thinking all is lost in just 3 years is not correct.
both DMK and ADMK did not do anything after 2001.
at the same time, we have opened up lot of industries...
both DMK and ADMK responsible for power situation. ADMK can not wash their hands...
At the same time, DMK is more responsible, because
it is in power in SG and CG did not do anything for the power.

"In the power, but not for the power.":lol:

Only naysers like me and Arul discussed Port economics which shows how open we are to learn from other states esp. Guj.

In Yesterday's Talk show..Dr.Pranoy Roy asking Salman khursid..
"Why this Kolaveri..?"..

@KT - Hope you can recover soon from your personal issues and be able to actively participate in this forum.

DMK confident of Vijayakanth tie-up

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/south/dmk-confident-vijayakanth-tie-897

both DMK and ADMK did not do anything after 2001.
at the same time, we have opened up lot of industries...
both DMK and ADMK responsible for power situation. ADMK can not wash their hands...
At the same time, DMK is more responsible, because
it is in power in SG and CG did not do anything for the power.

"In the power, but not for the power.":lol:
Since 2002 TNEB is an illegal organisation per some Electricity act. Both govts resisted its bi/trifurification. That is a big story and I will try to post news article related. For sometime TN concentrated on renewable resources but something happened after '05 which will be evident starting next year. Everyone goes through lean patches but damning this much is overreacting. And this is because of fear of loosing tags like motor city, number one state etc etc which has no real value.

Supply side incentives(Gj) vs Demand side incentives(TN)

Can someone(economics expert) analyze/compare Supply side incentives as provided by GJ (Interest free loans, deferred taxes etc) or Demand side incentives as provided by TN(free tv, mixie,grinder etc) has helped spur manufacturing. In the long run which will be better model for development ?

Is there any examples we can look at around the world to get a better understanding of the 2 models ?

Sarava Nash
Free culture will kill motivation.

^^The above result maybe true for both models as far as killing motivation.


But I'm more interested in economic analysis of the above models.

Tamil Nadu sets the pace in community radio

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2909881.ece

Tamil Nadu has a clear lead over other States with respect to the setting up of community radio stations in the country, with 20 channels operating in the southern State. Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra and Karnataka are the other States where a number of these stations are operating.

The policy guidelines for setting up of Community Radio Stations (CRS) in India allows setting up of CRS by educational institutions, civil society and voluntary organisations, State Agriculture Universities (SAUs), ICAR institutions, Krishi Vigyan Kendras, registered societies, autonomous bodies and public trusts registered under Societies Act.

So far 913 organisations including universities and colleges have applied for setting up CRS in the country. According to government officials, of these letters of Intent have been issued to 349 (of which 150 organisations have signed Grant of Permission Agreement) while 295 applications have been rejected so far. A total of 269 applications are pending for grant of permission to set up community radio station for want of requisite information from the applicant institutions or clearances from concerned ministries.

Community radios in some areas are doing pioneering work in spreading rights awareness, tackling health and education issues, concerning themselves with community problems and trying to empower the local population with relevant information.

Though community radio engages with specific issues that have social impact, mainstream radio too is witnessing an upward surge with new markets and new technologies making their presence felt. May 2012 will see an India Radio Forum meet playing out in Mumbai. It will be discussing key issues including the future of radio in the country, how it can be used for social change and whether it has become less relevant in the age of social media over the Internet. To make it economically viable, the forum will thrash out questions regarding advertising on the medium. According to the forum, last year radio media gained in media share of total advertisement spends and peaked at 3 per cent. However, retail advertising is yet to take off and that is what the forum intends to do. It will try to push its share of advertising to 7 per cent with Phase 3 of FM auctions around the corner.

I am not against TN and its people learning good practices from where ever we can and that includes Gujarat.
However, I would rather live in a TN with stinking Coovums than in a TN that is highly developed but its people live in fear of each other and spew hatred against each other or even kill each other through instigation of a plotting politician or a political party.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/20120218_WOC597.gif

For the highlighted part only people are responsible not govt. Its a well known fact how free current was(still is) misused in the heydays.

Gujarati farmers are not saints, misuse of free electricity was going on in Gujarat too, but the govt had the political will to force them to change their behaviour. That is whats lacking in TN.

Not many know that guj has lot of people from GUj cadre ias and ips who are tamils.

Modi has lots of confidants from south esp tn origin officers. Hence he very well knows the good schemes of south.

But unfortunately, aapicers in our state dont implement if they get to know good ideas and even if they want to, our politicos wont allow.

All in all it boils down to leadership. There are many things that man does to lift it in areas where they are poor. he recognizes they are poor in skills so lot of emphasizes goes for skill building, take security, he realizes in this modern world for cracking cases quickly forensic experts are needed and has a forensic sciences university set up, a first in country. Its opposite in TN. if someone read the report in DC month back you will know there are just 6 forensic surgeons and even less opt for it every year in TN. this is surgeon side only.
Its a shame that for everything, things get delayed going to hyderabad or a bureau in chennai for firngerprint and so on.

Multiple agri univs have been set up. We have one and branch in mdu. we hardly hear any noise from branch in mdu. isnt it time that one agri univ was established in each zones like one in central, south, and north.

how much of cooperation is there between agri univs of diff states and icar so that we dont reinvent god only knows.

Only now we read of a erode farmer making huge windfall in yield of sugarcane using drip irrigation. The moment he saw success in trial programme, Modi has extended to ensure his states entire sugarcane cultivation is done thru drip irrigation.

He saw his state had a good coastal line, took adv of it, similarly various schemes unleashed to take advantage of its strength diary. Go take a look at the agri vision document of theirs.

Similarly, he took farmers market concept in TN, improvised it and they now have a farmers supermarket coming up. its in the background of this he says i dont need fdi, i need our own model for retails.

here we had vision for farmers market thanks to the concept of weekly sandhais we already had, but did nothing to improvise and make it better. worst we have possibly only 150 odd such things if i am right in so many years and this lady doesnt even go anywhere near farmers market.

Infact chandra babu had copied the same.

If modi was there he would have improvised weekly shandai/shandy as it sustain local economy and would have given better facilities and tools for them.

That is leadership. This lacks in TN whoever comes to power.

One area I havent yet heard about guj is pds. he has an excellent in house system from chatissgarh, some e improvements from himcachal and off all knowledge from TN pds. yet i havent heard. but guess he is about to do something as pds wallahs revolted with his own brother being head of those pds shop operators. he had put it down. so guess some plan coming

The other is their inter city transport sector.

Education guy is taking personal effort by making his entire machinery involved during school opening times. He himself leads from front on that.

Ippave kannak Kattudhe ! :lol:

First of all, it was me who asked KS / KT to post the Thuglak articles since I know many of you do not read them. I dont subscribe to the Online version.

Just posting some news / press note, does not mean that the person who posted / who asked him to post have the same believe in it - 100% or partially.

I deliberately posted the articles to incite a healthy debate. I expected a much more mature response from the forumers.

I am disappointed.

You Guys missed all the cues:


Gujarat EB Reforms
Let us learn from this that Reforms are possible in Indian States, if the leader is capable.

Why we should respect Gujarat’s governance and economic achievements

It has facilitated combining knowledge, resources, energies and management skills of public, private and not-for-profit sectors for addressing specific public policy challenges.

Gujarat is among the handful of states where the state government has framed clear policies in vital areas such as agriculture, ports, power, roads and education.

(CHumma Chumma compare panni Chandai podaradha vida, avanga pannina nalla plans a namum E adichan Kaapi adicha kooda, nalla progress varalam.

I like the Caption GROWTH WITH DISCIPLINE

Learning from Gujarat's port-led development
More feed for thought & replies

Without tagging along with the Central Govt, Gujarat Govt has direct interaction with NRIs community from Gujarat.

Please read my post
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88662631&postcount=15443

TN Govt also have lots of similar programs in many sectors. The major differences are that in Gujarat

- The allotted money is well spent on these initiatives.

- Constant Monitoring is done wrt to growth & mid way course corrections are done based on the feedback.

- Decision Making Process has been restricted to very few levels (at the lower end).

- The overall Macro Plan is always in sight while implementation of projects at local levels.

I hope JJ will learn from her friend NaMo and implement similar reforms in TN.

But the whole thing was hijacked to Gujarat vs TN issue, personal nitpicking, sly remarks.

When Thuglak publishes something, the wrong facts if any can be highlighted; but my focus & query here were what TN can learn from Gujarat.

Many of you missed that and went tangential. :bash:

Kannan! Why such a sudden fascinaton for one of the most Industrailised States in India?
Has anyone else in other States bother to collect all the best things that have happened in MH,TN,Punjab,Haryana etc.

I come across so many statistics in India and find TN amongst the best, along side MH and Guj.

Under no circumstances ,I am going to believe that TN has to catch up with GJ..
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I work with many investors and see from the close quarters how they assess each location.

We cry when ever somebody moves out. I find that more investors are impressed by GJ reforms than other indian states.

Why they selected GJ over TN ? What GJ has / gives which TN does not have / give ?

I am looking at it from a positive mindset willing to learn from others to excel further and give a tough competition to them also.

My posts are supposed to start a healthy debate on these lines.

IMHO, Admin Reforms seem to be the basic need, which may correct many other issues / problems.

When GJ could implement Admin reforms, why not TN ?

TN has implemented some reforms and have come out successful in the past.
IT Policy, Auto Industry policy, Rain Water Harvesting, Sales Tax (by Rajaji during war times), Mid Day Meal Scheme, Wind Energy, Reservation (To some extent), Slum Clearance & Rehabitation (though not maintained well), Education & Training (though wanting in some spheres).

As Kumar said, NaMo as CM is only the catalyst. I met a few Tamil / South Indian IAS officers in GJ and they are the ones, who have implemented these reforms. When they can do it in GJ, why not in TN ?

Please take things in positive manner.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88721066&postcount=3516

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மெழுகுவர்த்தி தந்த மேதையே ...
ஃப்ரிட்ஜையே அழ வைத்த பேதையே!!

வெளிச்சம் குறைத்த வெள்ளை எல் ஈ டி யே!!!
எங்களின் எமெர்ஜென்சி லாம்பே!!!

பன்னிரண்டு செல் டார்ச்சே!!!
அரைக்காது நின்ற கிரைண்டரே !!!

ஓடாது நிற்கும் மிக்சியே!!
காணாமல் போன கரண்ட்டே!!

காற்றை தொலைத்த விசிறியே !!

எங்கள்
மூச்சை அடைத்த முதல்வரே !!!
கொடநாட்டில் குளிர் காய்ந்த நிலவே !!!

யு பி எஸ் நாயகியே ...!!!
ஜெனரேட்டர் தந்த ஜெயா வே !!

இப்படி எல்லாம் கூட இனி பேனர்ல அடிச்சுக்கோங்க !!
படிக்க கிரீன் சாண்ட்ஸ் நாங்க இருக்கோம்ல !!

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^^^^

Adada!

Enna oru karpanai.

Namma Alungala Adichukka mudiyadu Adichukka mudiyadu Adichukka mudiyadu :lol:

TNN | Feb 20, 2012, 03.05AM IST

NEW DELHI: Two Italian naval personnel have been arrested and charged with murder four days after two Indian fishermen were shot dead by the crew of an Italian ship. The arrest comes after the Indian government told Italy that the law would take its course against the Italian crew, because the fishermen were unarmed.

An official and legal delegation from Italy arrived on Sunday for talks with Indian officials to try to delay the arrest of their naval personnel, but Indian officials insisted that the crime had occurred on an Indian vessel which means India had jurisdiction over prosecution and investigation of the crime.

The accused were brought to Kochi by the police on Sunday. Earlier, the crew members of Enrica Lexie were interrogated by the police and were asked to surrender by 8 am on Sunday. They will be produced before the magistrate in Kochi in 24 hours.

Ajesh Binki, 25, from Tamil Nadu and Gelastine, 45, from Kerala, were mistaken for pirates and shot dead by the crew of an Italian ship on Wednesday evening about 14 nautical miles off Alappuzha.

The meeting between the two sides happened hours after Krishna publicly urged the Italians to cooperate in the ongoing investigations. "I have been in talks with the Italian foreign minister and the Kerala chief minister... the law of the land will have to take its own course, we have advised the Italians to cooperate with the Kerala law agencies to achieve an amicable solution. I am expecting the Italian foreign minister to come on the 28th," Krishna said.

On Saturday, the minister said the loss of "innocent lives" could have been avoided had the naval personnel onboard Enrica Lexie been careful and exercised restraint.

The death of the fishermen is now a major diplomatic incident between India and Italy, and comes hot on the heels of yet another ship incident by Italian luxury liner, Costa Concordia, which was embarrassing to the Italian authorities.

Italian officials took the view that the incident had happened in international waters and took recourse to the UN law of the seas to make the case that Italy should do the prosecution. The Indians contended that since the crime had happened on an Indian vessel, India retained jurisdiction and had the responsibility to prosecute.

When the Italian officials contended that they had out-of-area jurisdiction of their vessel, the Indians countered with the same argument. As a last resort, the Italians pleaded diplomatic immunity for the naval personnel, which the Indians argued did not apply in a third country. The Italian delegation will now head to Kochi.

The Italians were asked to submit to the legal process and make the case to the magistrate, who would rule on the matter.

In Bangalore, Krishna said the law of the land would take its own course. "We have advised the Italians to cooperate with the Kerala law agencies to find an amicable solution," he said. Krishna said he has been in talks with Italian foreign affairs minister Giulio Maria Terzi and Kerala chief minister Oommen Chandy on the issue. The minister said he was looking forward to Terzi's visit to India on February 28.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/11956335.cms


How come CG is so active on this including our Pannayar ?

Oh! This is not Rameswaram coast !!!

Leadership of TN and GJ are what it is; We cannot change it by making NaMo CM of TN. Only thing we can do is to discuss/compare cause and effect analysis as shyam says and learn from the findings.

If GJ is superior in a particular domain for ex ports, electricity, education, agriculture etc., then please indicate the following where they are better

(1) exact policy statement (cause)
(2) better implementation method with reasons (cause)
(3) result - economic gain with statistics if available (effect)
(4) sustainability - if applicable (effect)

How come CG is so active on this including our Pannayar ?

Oh! This is not Rameswaram coast !!!

these ppl are Italians..konjam naal vachitu they will send back..

CNR Rao apologises to science journal

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/CNR-Rao-apologises-to-science-journal/articleshow/11965854.cms

NEW DELHI: India's top scientist and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's advisor CNR Rao had to apologise to a leading scientific journal for reproducing text of other scientists in his research paper.

"The corresponding authors sincerely apologise to the readers, reviewers, and editors for this oversight and for any miscommunication," Rao and his co-author SB Krupanidhi said in an apology to 'Advanced Materials', a peer-reviewed journal covering materials science.

The July issue of the journal had carried a research paper titled 'Infrared Photodetectors Based on Reduced Graphene Oxide and Graphene Nanoribbons' authored by Rao, Krupanidhi, Basant Chitara and L S Panchakarla.

The scientists belong to Indian Institute of Science and the Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advanced Scientific Research.

The authors admitted that some part of the research paper was reproduced from an article that had appeared in Applied Physics Letters written by S Ghosh, B K Sarker, A Chunder, Lei Zhai and S I Khondaker.

"The corresponding authors regret the reproduction of text from an article that appeared in Applied Physics Letters in their paper," Rao and Krupanidhi said.

The apology was published in the online edition on November 29 last year and was carried in the December 1, 2011 print edition of the weekly.

Rao was unavailable for comment as he was out of the country.

Plagiarism - Sorry state of Indian Scientific research

Machan! Tamil is too cool da

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloid/chennai/machan-tamil-too-cool-da-081

Kolaveri Di, Whistle Podu and Chammak Challo played a pivotal role in the popularity of Tamil.

It’s been hard to live down the image of the quintessential Tamilian, that Mehmood so kindly immortalised as the dhoti-wearing, nammam-sporting, tum kya bolta ji-spewing Brahmin from Madras in the 1968 hit Padosan.

But those days of suffering were long before Kareena Kapoor gyrated in titillating red to Chammak Challo, taunting her robot lover with Kannil kannai pooti vital, sirikka matiya.

And, not without good reason. From our Chennai Super King's Whistle Podu number to Kolaveri Di, Tamil has gone from being just about ‘mind it’ jokes to a lingo that youth across the nation don’t mind interspersing with dialogue-baazi.

The catty idli-dosa references and appadiya clichés have given way to more hip usage of words like machan, dai and paavum.

And with folk artiste Chinnaponnu sharing the stage with Shaan and B’town hotties grooving to her rustic live performance or Ranbir and SRK mouthing-off lines in Tamil at a recent awards function, it’s telling of the fact that Tamil is the new language of cool.

Suddenly, Tamil is all pervasive! Says Chanrachoodan Gopalakrishnan, who hosts photo walks in Chennai and is involved with Puram, a podcast on Tamil Nadu’s political scenario, “What’s been happening over the last few years is that people from Madras have been migrating everywhere.

Old bastions and boundaries have fallen. As more and more people marry outsiders the scope and reach for all things Tamil grows. Tamil classical music (Pittsburg tyagarajar festival etc.) and folk music have now become viral on the concert circuit globally. Be it Shankar Tucker’s Shruti Box or the Chennai Super Kings campaigns, Twitter — largely populated by people from Chennai — has taken things from here and turned them into a national phenomenon.”

Ushering in the change, rapper BlaaZe says, “It’s a great time for Tamil music and Tamil art to really reach out to the world. As a member of a diverse society, when we are exposed to different languages and cultures, it’s only natural to be amused at first, accept it next, and then grow fond of it,” he smiles.

But the syntax and rich phonetic collection of the language surely do make it unique? Says lyricist Madhan Karky, “I’ve studied different languages in the course of my work and find that Tamil is very beautifully designed. A lot of thought has gone into its construction. It has a big range of phonetics and sounds. From a musical and lyrical point of view especially it’s very pleasing.”

Tamil may very well soon be the language of Gen Y, but actress Shruti Haasan believes that Tamil has never had to fight a popularity contest. "Tamil is such an ancient language, it has nothing to prove to anyone. Having lived in America and later Mumbai too, I've always held my mother tongue in high regard and believe that no one can mock something that one is proud of,” says the actress who has a vernacular tattoo on display.

I deliberately posted the articles to incite a healthy debate. I expected a much more mature response from the forumers.

I am disappointed.

You Guys missed all the cues:

But the whole thing was hijacked to Gujarat vs TN issue, personal nitpicking, sly remarks.

When Thuglak publishes something, the wrong facts if any can be highlighted; but my focus & query here were what TN can learn from Gujarat.

Many of you missed that and went tangential. :bash:
You are 100% correct sir...
Instead of appreciating lot of good things in GJ implementation, few people nit picked few wrong data in Thuglak and start questioning them.
சாத்தான் ஓதினாலும் வேதம் வேதம் தான்.
since it has come from thuglak.. jalra ...appadinu solrathu too much...there might be 1 or 2 things that beyond reporter's knowledge. We see everyday all the magazines is reporting incorrect data.
the debate went on Thuglak authenticity, Chos's creditional, what is TN's past glory, instead of how those reforms can be done here..
lot of forum members forget 1 good thirukural
"எப்பொருள் யார்யார்வாய் கேட்பினும் அப்பொருள் மெய்பொருள் காண்பது அரிது"

Also few people nit picked the person who has posted which is totally unfair.

I am sorry from my part, if some of my posts taken discussion in wrong direction..

Not many know that guj has lot of people from GUj cadre ias and ips who are tamils.

Modi has lots of confidants from south esp tn origin officers. Hence he very well knows the good schemes of south.

But unfortunately, aapicers in our state dont implement if they get to know good ideas and even if they want to, our politicos wont allow.

Kumar sir: you are correct. most of the GJ officers are from TN only. In CG too has good talented, honest IAS/IPS officers in key post.
both DMK/ADMK parties shown the doors to them who are not adjusting to their "personal" demands.that is why frequent transfer of IAS/IPS in TN regime.
When JJ visited Delhi, i remember she had meeting with those officers to come back to TN, but none of them accepted her demands.
I dont know much about Vijayakumar IPS... but i feel, he is the one that TN missed a good IPS officer..

No tie-up, DMDK to go it alone in bypoll

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/no-tieup-dmdk-to-go-it-alone-in-bypoll/914541/

Belying speculation about a possible realignment of forces in the opposition camp to take on the AIADMK, led by Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa, the main opposition party, DMDK, announced its candidate for the coming bypoll in Sankarankoil, making it a multi-cornered contest with at least four parties having jumped into the fray so far.

The seat went vacant after the death of state minister C Karuppasamy barely five months after winning the Assembly polls last year.

Following the bitter spat between one-time allies, Jaya and DMDK founder Vijayakant, both sides had challenged each other to prove their mettle in the coming election by contesting without being part of any alliance.

What gave rise to the speculation about a possible joining of forces between the DMK and DMDK was a chance meeting between Vijayakant and former deputy CM M K Stalin at the Madurai airport a week ago, where they spoke in private before leaving for Chennai.

Though premature, the rumour was not baseless as DMK chief M Karunanidhi tacitly explored the opportunity by stating on Sunday that his party would consider the possibility of fielding a common candidate if other parties were on board. This despite the DMK interviewing and finalising J Jawahar Suryakumar as its prospective candidate on Friday.

The election on March 18 has S Muthuselvi of the AIADMK, Jawahar Suryakumar of the DMK, K Muthukumar of the DMDK and former MLA Sathan Thirumalaikumar of the MDMK pitted against each other.

Krishnaswamy: its not they are not willing to come back, they are, but parent ministry cg minister and mainly ministry of personnel not willing to relieve them.

wanted game.

Vaiko confident of MDMK winning by-poll

Former MLA T. Sadan Thirumalaikumar is the Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (MDMK) candidate for the by-election to Sankarankoil (reserved) constituency.

Talking to reporters, MDMK general secretary Vaiko said as many as eight persons had applied for the seat and the party's administrative council had unanimously chosen Dr Thirumalaikumar.

A medical doctor by profession, 59-year-old Thirumalaikumar was elected to the Assembly in 2006 from Vasudevanallur (reserved) constituency, defeating CPI(M)'s Krishnan over a margin 7,621 votes. He was the leader of the MDMK group in that House.

Expressing confidence that his party would win the seat, Mr Vaiko said MDMK's victory would be a warning bell to the ruling AIADMK, which he said had been functioning in an arbitrary manner with scant regard for democracy Mr Vaiko said Chief Minister Jayalalithaa's assertion in the Assembly that her party would retain the Sankarankoil constituency despite the increase in milk price and bus fare showed that she did not respect the people's feelings.
An alternative

“We will project MDMK as an alternative to the AIADMK as well as the DMK, which is part of the anti-Tamil Congress-led UPA at the Centre. We will approach voters with a request to give us representation in the Assembly,” he said.

Mr. Vaiko said if the MDMK won the by-election, it would be a “turning point” in Tamil Nadu politics that would lead to the emergence of a political system under which there will be a clean administration.

It would free the State from the evil of State-run retail liquor shops and people's dependence on freebies.

He said Mr. Thirumalaikumar would file his nomination on February 24 and the campaign would begin the next day.

Asked about DMK president M. Karunanidhi's remarks in Tiruchi that his party would consider the possibility of avoiding splitting of opposition votes, if other parties too had the same idea, Mr. Vaiko said he was not aware of it.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2910801.ece)

Krishnaswamy: its not they are not willing to come back, they are, but parent ministry cg minister and mainly ministry of personnel not willing to relieve them.
wanted game.
Oh..ok.. thanks

Vaiko confident of MDMK winning by-poll

Mr. Vaiko said if the MDMK won the by-election, it would be a “turning point” in Tamil Nadu politics that would lead to the emergence of a political system under which there will be a clean administration.

It would free the State from the evil of State-run retail liquor shops and people's dependence on freebies.

Source (http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2910801.ece)

At last, some one is anti-freebie and anti-liquor (not that it should be banned but it should be strictly regulated and not promoted as a revenue-generator). I have always admired Vaiko's sincerity even if I disagree with some of his views. Sad that his party has not taken off.

Waterfalls see high visitor footfall

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/chennai/waterfalls-see-high-visitor-footfall-198

The weekend gone by witnessed unprecedented rush at over eight prominent waterfalls in Tamil Nadu bringing back the smile on the faces of traders and hoteliers. After the monsoon and the gradual receding of the nippy weather, visitors are heading for the waterfalls and boating yards across the state.

With vibrant western ghats and ecological hotspots, Tamil Nadu accounts for 47 waterfalls located in 12 districts spread across the state. “The period from February attracts huge crowds and the activity is sustained till the onset of summer.

Last year, many who had turned up at the Courtallam falls during peak summer were disappointed when the thundering cataract became a trickle,” an official said.

The rumbling Hogenakkal falls bordering Karnataka and situated about 46 km from Dharmapuri had lured huge crowds last weekend.

“The tourism season at the falls has commenced and it will peak during summer vacation,” an official said.

Closer to the city, the Jalagamparai falls in Yelagiri and the Akash Ganga falls in Kolli hills too have started receiving scores of visitors.

However, Chennaiites who got to experience waterfalls during summer had to forfeit it.

The massive artificial waterfalls put up during the Kodai Thiruvizha (Summer fest) at the Island Grounds here was dismantled.

The project had run into rough weather and the TTDC, which has established the 50-foot high waterfalls — Ayyan Aruvi - on revenue sharing basis shelved the Rs 2 crore project.

However, the water-based theme parks on the fringes of the city have planned it big to attract visitors this summer.

The number of visitors would swell when families descend at the falls once the final examinations of children are over in April.

ASad that his party has not taken off.
yea.. because he did not voice for any of TN problems except Sterlite. most of the times, he fought for Sri Lankan tamils.
so he himself kept some distance from TN people and their issues.
looks he wants to come back.. lets see..

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சென்னை:சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத் தேர்தலுக்கு கூடுதலாக, ஒன்பது பேரை தேர்தல் பணிக்குழு பொறுப்பாளர்களாக, முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா நியமித்துள்ளார். இவர்களில் ஐந்து பேர் அமைச்சர்கள், இருவர் பார்லிமென்ட் உறுப்பினர்கள்.சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத் தேர்தலுக்காக அ.தி.மு.க., அமைத்துள்ள தேர்தல் பணிக் குழுவில், 26 அமைச்சர்கள் உட்பட, 34 பேர் பொறுப்பாளர்களாக நியமிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தனர். மொத்தமுள்ள அமைச்சர்களில், ஆறு பேர் மட்டுமே விடுபட்டிருந்தனர். விடுபட்டிருந்த அமைச்சர்கள் பழனியப்பன், மூர்த்தி, ஜெயபால், முக்கூர் சுப்ரமணியன், முகம்மத் ஜான், ஆனந்தன் ஆகியோரும், பொறுப்பாளர்களாக தற்போது சேர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர்.இவர்களுடன், எம்.பி.,க்கள் தம்பிதுரை, செம்மலை ஆகியோரும் பொறுப்பாளர்களாக நியமிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர். இவர்களைச் சேர்த்து, 43 பேரை தேர்தல் பணிக்குழு பொறுப்பாளர்களாக, ஜெயலலிதா நியமித்துள்ளார்.
JJ ordered all the ministers and 2 MPs to work on sankaran koil by election...

if she is good in the last 9 months, she would have won comfortably..why this much fear?
anyway all opposition parties are standing alone to gauge their strength. so if any anti-incumbency will be split...
another waste election..

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சென்னை:சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத் தேர்தலுக்கு கூடுதலாக, ஒன்பது பேரை தேர்தல் பணிக்குழு பொறுப்பாளர்களாக, முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா நியமித்துள்ளார். இவர்களில் ஐந்து பேர் அமைச்சர்கள், இருவர் பார்லிமென்ட் உறுப்பினர்கள்.சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத் தேர்தலுக்காக அ.தி.மு.க., அமைத்துள்ள தேர்தல் பணிக் குழுவில், 26 அமைச்சர்கள் உட்பட, 34 பேர் பொறுப்பாளர்களாக நியமிக்கப்பட்டிருந்தனர். மொத்தமுள்ள அமைச்சர்களில், ஆறு பேர் மட்டுமே விடுபட்டிருந்தனர். விடுபட்டிருந்த அமைச்சர்கள் பழனியப்பன், மூர்த்தி, ஜெயபால், முக்கூர் சுப்ரமணியன், முகம்மத் ஜான், ஆனந்தன் ஆகியோரும், பொறுப்பாளர்களாக தற்போது சேர்க்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர்.இவர்களுடன், எம்.பி.,க்கள் தம்பிதுரை, செம்மலை ஆகியோரும் பொறுப்பாளர்களாக நியமிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர். இவர்களைச் சேர்த்து, 43 பேரை தேர்தல் பணிக்குழு பொறுப்பாளர்களாக, ஜெயலலிதா நியமித்துள்ளார்.
JJ ordered all the ministers and 2 MPs to work on sankaran koil by election...

if she is good in the last 9 months, she would have won comfortably..why this much fear?
anyway all opposition parties are standing alone to gauge their strength. so if any anti-incumbency will be split...
another waste election..


Whether Ministers are there to serve for the people or work for their party to win the by-poll. One thing is clear! whichever constituencies facing a bye election will be the richest and will get all the long pending issues be resolved (similar to muthuku muthaka pada comedy :lol:).

Moreover DMDK is standing in this election just because to split the votes of MDMK, but eventually all other parties will also split the votes of DMDK and it would eventually be cornered to take the 4 th position unless communists support DMDK.

Furthermore, MDMK's candidate is well known to the public in sankarankovil constituency,he might not win but may end up taking the second position.

Guys I am happy to say I got hold of some important data. The data we always wants to know about different states but it is only upto 2006 still the most important data we always talk about.

Stay tuned.

Furthermore, MDMK's candidate is well known to the public in sankarankovil constituency,he might not win but may end up taking the second position.

Even though the fight is for 2nd place..
DMK will still be ahead of race because DMK+Cong..
for 3rd place it is between DMDK & MDMK..Even though MDMK might finish 3rd, they can not take big political mileage out of it, because MDMK considered to be strong in it.
I dont think DMDK will come beyond MDMK in all the constituency.
so it should be DMK Vs MDMK for 2nd place.
1st and 4th place is decided.
but being prime opposition party in assembly and finishing 4th,will be a problem for DMDK.

Even though the fight is for 2nd place..
DMK will still be ahead of race because DMK+Cong..
for 3rd place it is between DMDK & MDMK..Even though MDMK might finish 3rd, they can not take big political mileage out of it, because MDMK considered to be strong in it.
I dont think DMDK will come beyond MDMK in all the constituency.
so it should be DMK Vs MDMK for 2nd place.
1st and 4th place is decided.
but being prime opposition party in assembly and finishing 4th,will be a problem for DMDK.

Let us see what happens as these are our predictions. Anything may happen :)

இத்தாலி எச்சரிக்கை

இரு இந்திய மீனவர்கள் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்ட விவகாரத்தில் இந்தியாவுடன் "குறிப்பிடத்தக்க சட்ட ரீதியான வேறுபாடுகள்' இருப்பதாக இத்தாலி வெளியுறவு அமைச்சர் கிலியோ டெர்ஸி திங்கள்கிழமை எச்சரித்தார்.

இந்திய மீனவர்களைச் சுட்டதாகக் கைது செய்யப்பட்டிருக்கும் இத்தாலி கப்பலைச் சேர்ந்த இரு காவலர்களுக்கும் இந்தியச் சட்டத்திலிருந்து "பாதுகாப்பு' இருப்பதாகவும் அவர் கூறியுள்ளார்.

"இப்போதைக்கு இருநாடுகளுக்கும் இடையே சட்ட ரீதியான வேறுபாடுகள் உள்ளன. இந்த விவகாரத்தில் விரைவான தீர்வை எட்டுவதற்குத் தேவையான ஒத்துழைப்பு எதுவும் இந்தியாவுக்கும் இத்தாலிக்கும் இடையே இல்லை' என்று அவர் தெரிவித்தார்.

நீதிமன்றக் காவல்: இந்திய மீனவர்கள் ஜலஸ்டீன், பிங்கி ஆகியோர் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்ட சம்பவம் கேரளத்தை ஒட்டிய கடல் பகுதியில் கடந்த 15-ம் தேதி நடந்தது. கடற்கொள்ளையர்கள் என்று கருதி இத்தாலி கப்பலில் இருந்த காவலர்கள் அவர்களைச் சுட்டதாகக் கூறப்படுகிறது. இந்தப் பிரச்னை இரு நாடுகளுக்கும் இடையேயான விவகாரமாக உருவெடுத்ததால், சுட்டவர்களைப் பிடிப்பதற்கு நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்பட்டது.

4 நாள் பேச்சுக்குப் பிறகு, இத்தாலியின் "என்ரிகா லெக்ஸி' கப்பலில் இருந்த லதோர் மாஸிமிலியனோ, சல்வதோர் ஜிரோன் ஆகிய இரு காவலர்களும் கொல்லத்துக்கு அழைத்து வரப்பட்டனர். ஞாயிற்றுக்கிழமை இரவில் அவர்கள் மீது கைது நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்பட்டது.

இதையடுத்து, கொல்லம் முதல்நிலை மாஜிஸ்திரேட் கே.பி.ராய் முன்னிலையில் திங்கள்கிழமை அவர்கள் இருவரும் ஆஜர்படுத்தப்பட்டனர். மகா சிவராத்திரிக்காக திங்கள்கிழமை நீதிமன்றங்களுக்கு விடுமுறை என்பதால் மாஜிஸ்திரேட்டின் வீட்டுக்கு அவர்கள் அழைத்துச் செல்லப்பட்டனர். அவர்கள் சார்பில் வழக்குரைஞர் வி.ஜே. மாத்யூஸ் ஆஜரானார். சம்பவம் நடந்த இடம் இந்திய எல்லைக்கு உள்பட்ட பகுதி இல்லை என்பதால், இந்தியச் சட்டம் அங்கு செல்லுபடியாகாது என்று இத்தாலி காவலர்கள் சார்பில் வாதிடப்பட்டது. ஆனால், இதை நிராகரித்த மாஜிஸ்திரேட், அவர்கள் இருவரையும் மார்ச் 5-ம் தேதிவரை நீதிமன்றக் காவலில் வைக்கும்படி உத்தரவிட்டார்.

3 நாள் போலீஸ் காவல்: இத்தாலி காவலர்களை போலீஸ் காவலில் விசாரிக்க வேண்டும் என்று கேரளப் போலீஸôர் சார்பில் வழக்குரைஞர் அனில்குமார் மனு தாக்கல் செய்தார். இதையடுத்து, முதல் 3 நாள் போலீஸ் காவலுக்கு அனுமதி வழங்கப்பட்டது.

பின்னர் செய்தியாளர்களிடம் பேசிய குமார், "தேவைப்பட்டால் மேலும் சில நாள்கள் போலீஸ் காவலை நீட்டிக்கக் கோருவோம்' என்றார்.

90 நிமிடம் நடந்த விசாரணை: மாஜிஸ்திரேட் முன்னிலையில் நடந்த விசாரணை,90 நிமிடங்கள்வரை நீடித்தது. இத்தாலி காவலர்கள் இருவரும் சீருடையிலேயே வந்திருந்தனர். அவர்கள் இருவர் மீதும் இந்திய தண்டனைச் சட்டம் 302-ன் படி கொலைக் குற்றம் சுமத்தப்பட்டிருக்கிறது.

குற்றம்சாட்டப்பட்ட காவலர்கள் அவர்களுக்கான மொழிபெயர்ப்பாளர் ஆகியோர் விசாரணையின்போது இருந்தனர்.

காங்கிரஸ், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் போராட்டம்: விசாரணை நடந்து கொண்டிருந்தபோது,இத்தாலிக் காவலர்களுக்கு அதிகபட்ச தண்டனை வழங்க வேண்டும் என்று கோரி, மாஜிஸ்திரேட் வீட்டுக்கு வெளியே காங்கிரஸ், மார்க்சிஸ்ட், மார்க்சிஸ்ட் இளைஞர் அணி போன்ற அமைப்புகளைச் சேர்ந்தவர்கள் போராட்டம் நடத்தினர். அவர்களைப் போலீஸôர் கலைத்தனர். பாதுகாப்புக்காக ஆயுதமேந்திய கமாண்டோ போலீஸôர் அங்கு குவிக்கப்பட்டனர்.

எண்ணெய் இறக்கும் பணி பாதிப்பு: இத்தாலிக் கப்பல் கொச்சி துறைமுகத்தின் எண்ணெய் முனையத்தில் நிறுத்தி வைக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. இதனால் வழக்கமாக எண்ணெய் ஏற்றிவரும் கப்பல்களிருந்து சரக்கை இறக்கும் பணி பாதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதையடுத்து, இத்தாலிக் கப்பலை துறைமுகத்துக்கு உள்பட்ட வெளிப்பகுதியில் நிறுத்த முடிவு செய்யப்பட்டிருப்பதாக கொச்சி துறைமுகப் பொறுப்புக் கழகம் தெரிவித்திருக்கிறது.

எனினும் அந்தக் கப்பலின் நடமாட்டத்தை கொச்சி கடலோரக் காவல் படையினர் தொடர்ந்து கண்காணித்துக் கொண்டிருப்பார்கள் என்று கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

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You are 100% correct sir...
Instead of appreciating lot of good things in GJ implementation, few people nit picked few wrong data in Thuglak and start questioning them.
சாத்தான் ஓதினாலும் வேதம் வேதம் தான்.
since it has come from thuglak.. jalra ...appadinu solrathu too much...there might be 1 or 2 things that beyond reporter's knowledge. We see everyday all the magazines is reporting incorrect data.
the debate went on Thuglak authenticity, Chos's creditional, what is TN's past glory, instead of how those reforms can be done here..
lot of forum members forget 1 good thirukural
"எப்பொருள் யார்யார்வாய் கேட்பினும் அப்பொருள் மெய்பொருள் காண்பது அரிது"

Also few people nit picked the person who has posted which is totally unfair.

I am sorry from my part, if some of my posts taken discussion in wrong direction..
Its not like no one works in a factory opened say in 1960s. So past glory is applied to Chera Chola Pandiya Kingdoms only. Not to TN. Oorula irrukura ella companyum inga varnumunu ninaikirathu enna nyamunu puriyala. Please chk the posts to know who posted against the poster first. Some people are very happy to play the victim part and I dont know what they get out of it. People who picked wrong data actually were acting per the kural posted above. Cho himself said he is a broker so I just quoted him.

புலிகள் அமைப்பு மீதான தடையை வைகோ எதிர்க்க முடியாது: தமிழக அரசு பதில் மனு தாக்கல்

விடுதலைப் புலிகள் அமைப்பு மீதான தடையை எதிர்த்து ம.தி.மு.க. பொதுச் செயலாளர் வைகோ வழக்குத் தொடர முடியாது என்று தமிழக அரசு தெரிவித்துள்ளது.

விடுதலைப் புலிகள் அமைப்பை சட்ட விரோத அமைப்பு என்றும், அது இந்தியாவில் தடை செய்யப்பட்ட இயக்கம் என்றும் கூறி மத்திய அரசின் உள்துறை அமைச்சகம் 14.5.2010 அன்று அறிவிக்கை வெளியிட்டது. இதனையே தமிழக அரசு 17.5.2010 அன்று தனது அரசிதழில் வெளியிட்டது.

சட்ட விரோத அமைப்புகளை தடை செய்வது தொடர்பான வழக்குகளை விசாரிக்கும் மத்திய தீர்ப்பாயம், புலிகள் அமைப்பின் மீதான இந்தத் தடை பற்றி விசாரித்து 12.11.2010 அன்று தீர்ப்பளித்தது.

அதில் புலிகள் அமைப்பின் மீதான தடை சரியே என்று உத்தரவிட்டது. மேலும், இந்த வழக்கில் தன்னையும் ஒரு தரப்பாக சேர்த்து விசாரிக்க வேண்டும் என்ற வைகோவின் கோரிக்கையை தீர்ப்பாயம் நிராகரித்தது.

இந்நிலையில், புலிகள் அமைப்பின் மீதான தடையை உறுதி செய்த தீர்ப்பாயத்தின் உத்தரவை எதிர்த்து சென்னை உயர் நீதிமன்றத்தில் வைகோ மனு தாக்கல் செய்தார். இது தொடர்பாக மத்திய உள்துறை அமைச்சகம் கடந்த ஆண்டு ஜனவரி மாதம் தனது பதில் மனுவை தாக்கல் செய்தது.

சட்ட விரோத அமைப்புகளை தடை செய்யும் சட்டத்தின் அடிப்படையிலேயே விடுதலைப் புலிகள் அமைப்பு தடை செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதனால் தனிப்பட்ட முறையில் வைகோவுக்கு எந்தப் பாதிப்பும் இல்லாத நிலையில், அவர் இந்தத் தடை உத்தரவை எதிர்த்து வழக்குத் தொடர முடியாது என்று மத்திய அரசு தனது மனுவில் கூறியிருந்தது.

இந்நிலையில், இந்த வழக்கு நீதிபதிகள் எலிபி தர்மாராவ், கிருபாகரன் ஆகியோரைக் கொண்ட அமர்வு முன்னிலையில் திங்கள்கிழமை விசாரணைக்கு வந்தது. மனுதாரர் தரப்பில் வைகோ நேரில் ஆஜரானார். அப்போது தமிழக அரசு சார்பில் பதில் மனு தாக்கல் செய்யப்பட்டது.

இந்தப் பிரச்னை தொடர்பாக மத்திய உள்துறை அமைச்சகம் ஏற்கெனவே தனது பதில் மனுவில் கூறியுள்ள கருத்துகளையே தமிழக அரசின் கருத்துகளாகவும் நீதிமன்றம் எடுத்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டும் என்று அந்தப் பதில் மனுவில் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இதன் மூலம் விடுதலைப் புலிகள் அமைப்பு மீதான தடை குறித்து வைகோ கேள்வி எழுப்ப முடியாது என்ற மத்திய அரசின் நிலைப்பாட்டை மாநில அரசு ஆதரித்துள்ளது.

இதனைத் தொடர்ந்து வழக்கின் விசாரணையை ஏப்ரல் 9-ம் தேதிக்கு ஒத்திவைத்து நீதிபதிகள் உத்தரவிட்டனர்.


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சங்கரன்கோவிலில் நான்கு முனைப் போட்டி

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சங்கரன்கோவில் சட்டப்பேரவை இடைத்தேர்தலில் அதிமுக, திமுக, மதிமுக, தேமுதிக ஆகிய கட்சிகளிடையே நான்கு முனைப் போட்டி ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.

சங்கரன்கோவில் (தனி) சட்டப்பேரவை இடைத்தேர்தல் மார்ச் 18-ம் தேதி நடைபெறுகிறது. இதற்கான வேட்புமனு தாக்கல் பிப்ரவரி 22-ம் தேதி தொடங்குகிறது.

சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத்தேர்தலில் வெற்றிப்பெற்றுவிட வேண்டும் என்கிற முனைப்பில் அதிமுக தீவிர தேர்தல் பணியில் ஈடுபட்டு வருகிறது. அதிமுக வேட்பாளர் முத்துச்செல்வி தொடர் பிரசாரத்தில் ஈடுபட்டு வருகிறார். அமைச்சர்கள் உள்பட மொத்தம் 43 பேர் கொண்ட தேர்தல் பணிக்குழு அதிமுகவால் அமைக்கப்பட்டு அவர்களும் தேர்தல் பணியில் ஈடுபட்டு வருகின்றனர்.

திமுக சார்பில் ஜவகர் சூரியகுமார் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டு, அவரும் பிரசாரத்தில் ஈடுபட்டு வருகிறார். மதிமுக வேட்பாளராக சதன் திருமலைக்குமார் நிறுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளார். பிப்ரவரி 24-ம் தேதி வேட்புமனு தாக்கல் செய்வதுடன், அவர் 25-ம் தேதி பிரசாரத்தைத் தொடங்க உள்ளார்.

சவால் ஏற்பு: இந்தத் தேர்தலில் தேமுதிக போட்டியிடும் எண்ணத்தில் இல்லாமல் இருந்து வந்தது. இந்த நிலையில் கடந்த சட்டப்பேரவைக் கூட்டத்தொடரில் தேமுதிக உறுப்பினர் சந்திரகுமார் பேசும்போது, "பால் விலை, பஸ் கட்டணத்தை உள்ளாட்சித் தேர்தலுக்குப் பிறகு அரசு ஏற்றிவிட்டது. இதைத் தேர்தலுக்கு முன்பு செய்திருந்தால் அதிமுகவின் பலம் தெரிந்திருக்கும்' என்று பேசினார்.

இது தொடர்பாக முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கும், விஜயகாந்த்துக்கும் இடையே விவாதம் ஏற்பட்டது.

அப்போது ஜெயலலிதா, "சங்கரன்கோவில் இடைத்தேர்தலில் தேமுதிக தனித்துப் போட்டியிட திராணி இருக்கிறதா?' என்று சவால் விடுத்தார். இதில் ஏற்பட்ட விவாதத்தால் மோதல் ஏற்பட்டு தேமுதிகவினர் வெளியேற்றப்பட்டனர்.

பின்னர் சட்டப்பேரவைக்கு வெளியே விஜயகாந்த் பேட்டி அளித்தபோது, "6 மாத காலம் ஆளுநர் ஆட்சி நடைபெற வைத்து, அதற்குப் பிறகு அதிமுக தேர்தலைச் சந்திக்குமானால் நாங்களும் போட்டியிடத் தயார்' என்று கூறியிருந்தார். இப்போது அந்தச் சவாலை ஏற்கும் வகையில் விஜயகாந்த் வேட்பாளரை அறிவித்துள்ளார்.

இந்தக் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சி இந்தத் தேர்தலில் போட்டியிடப் போவதில்லை என அறிவித்துள்ளது.

மார்க்சிஸ்ட் கம்யூனிஸ்ட் கட்சியின் மாநில மாநாடு பிப்ரவரி 22-ம் தேதி கூடுகிறது. இந்த மாநாட்டிலேயே தேர்தலில் போட்டியிடுவது தொடர்பாக விவாதிக்கப்படுகிறது. பாஜகவும்போட்டியிடப் போவதாக அறிவித்து வேட்பாளர் தேர்வில் கவனம் செலுத்தி வருகிறது.

பல கட்சிகள் போட்டியிட்டாலும் அதிமுக, திமுக,மதிமுக, தேமுதிக இடையேதான் போட்டி ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.

இரண்டாவது இடம்: இந்த இடைத்தேர்தலைப் பொருத்தவரை அதிமுகவைத் தவிர மற்ற கட்சிகள் முதலிடம் என்பதைவிட இரண்டாம் இடத்தைப் பிடிப்பதிலேயே குறியாக இருக்கின்றன.

சங்கரன்கோவில் வைகோவின் சொந்தத் தொகுதி என்பதால் எப்படியும் இரண்டாவது இடத்தைப் பிடிக்க வேண்டும் என்பதற்காக அவர் போராடுவார் என்கின்றனர். மதிமுக சார்பில் போட்டியிட 8 பேர் மட்டும் விருப்பமனு தாக்கல் செய்திருந்தனர். இருப்பினும், சதன் திருமலைக்குமாருக்கு வாய்ப்பு அளிப்பதற்கு கடும்போட்டி நிலவியது.

எட்டு மணி நேர காரசார விவாதங்களுக்குப் பிறகே அவருக்கு வாய்ப்பு அளிக்கப்பட்டது. அந்தப் பகுதி மக்களுக்கு சதன் திருமலைக்குமார் நன்கு அறிந்தவர் என்பதாலேயே அவருக்கு வாய்ப்பு அளிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

சட்டப்பேரவை பொதுத் தேர்தலில் திமுகவுக்கு எதிர்க்கட்சியாகக் கூட வரமுடியாத நிலை. இந்தத் தேர்தலில் இரண்டாம் இடத்தைக் கூட பிடிக்காமல் மூன்றாவது நிலைக்குத் தள்ளப்பட்டால் மக்கள் மத்தியில் செல்வாக்கு இழந்ததைப்போல் தோன்றும் என்பதாலும், தொண்டர்கள் உற்சாகம் இழந்துவிடுவார்கள் என்பதாலும் இரண்டாம் இடத்தைப் பிடிப்பதற்கு மல்லுக்கட்டத் தொடங்கியுள்ளது.

ஜெயலலிதா விடுத்த சவாலால் தேமுதிகவும் தேர்தலில் குதித்து உள்ளதில் திமுகவுக்கு ஒருவகையில் மகிழ்ச்சி என்றே கூறப்படுகிறது. மதிமுகவின் வாக்குகளை தேமுதிக பிரிக்கும் என்று கருதுகிறது. அப்படிப் பிரித்தால் திமுக எளிதில் இரண்டாம் இடத்தைப் பிடிக்கும் என திமுகவினர் கருதுகின்றனர்.

தேமுதிகவைப் பொருத்தவரை ஜெயலலிதாவின் சவாலால் தேர்தலில் போட்டியிட வேண்டிய கட்டாயம். அவர்களின் இலக்கு முதலிடத்தைப் பிடிக்க வேண்டும் என்பது. ஆனால் அந்த இலக்கை அடைவது என்பது சுலபமில்லை.

My prediction for Sankarankoil (descending order)

AIADMK, MDMK, DMK, DMDK

Nice Thread


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=804176

Nice Thread


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=804176

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While issuing notice to the Tamil Nadu CM, a bench of justices Altmas Kabir and S S Nijjar, however, refrained from staying the September 30, 2011 judgement of the Madras High Court, delivered on a plea by Jayalalitha for quashing the FIR against her.

The case of the CBI is that Jayalalitha had received a remittance of three lakh US dollars in 1992 through a demand draft issued by banker's trust company in New York, drawn on ANZ Grindlays bank, St Helier Jersey.

According to the CBI, the receipts of such a huge money was part of an illegal transaction, which was being probed.

Jayalalitha was the chief minister of the state at the time of the alleged offence.

The high court had quashed the proceedings against Jayalalitha on her plea that that there was an inordinate delay in the investigation and trial.

The CBI, in its appeal, however, has defended the delay on the ground that the alleged offence which took place in 1992 came to the IT department's notice only in 1996.

It further argued that the investigation process took considerable time as the same had to conducted in the US, UK and UAE.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5864378

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அம்மா சொன்ன இட்லி கதை. இந்த பகிர்ந்து உண்ணும் கதை சம்சாரத்துக்கு மட்டும் தானா இல்லை மின்சாரத்துக்கும் பொருந்துமா?
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சென்னையில் 64 ஜோடி திருமண விழாவில் முதல்மைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதா சொன்ன இட்லி கதை !

’’புரிதல் என்கிற ஒரு வார்த்தையில்தான் மண வாழ்க்கையின் வெற்றி என்பது உறுதியாகிறது. அந்தப் புரிதலைத் தருவது அன்பு. உண்மையான அக்கறையில் எழுகின்ற அன்பு. இதற்கு ஒரு சிறு கதையை இங்கே நான் உங்களுக்கு சொல்ல விரும்புகிறேன்.

வேலைக்கு சென்ற கணவனை எதிர்பார்த்து மனைவி வீட்டில் காத்திருக்கிறாள். இருக்கின்ற இருவருக்குமாக தயார் செய்திருந்த மாவை வைத்து கணவனுக்காக இட்லி ஊற்றுகிறாள். மொத்தமாக 12 இட்லிகள்தான் அந்த மாவில் இருந்து அவளால் தயாரிக்க முடிந்தது.



சரி, கணவன் சாப்பிட்டது போக மீதம் இருப்பதை நாமும் சாப்பிட்டு இன்றைய பொழுதை கழித்துவிடலாம் என்று எண்ணியவாறே அவள் எதிர்பார்த்துக் காத்திருந்த வேளையில், கணவன் தனது பால்ய சிநேகிதன் ஒருவனை கூடவே அழைத்துக் கொண்டு வீட்டிற்கு வருகிறான்.

அப்படி அழைத்துக் கொண்டு வந்தவன் 'எனக்கும் என் நண்பனுக்கும் உணவு எடுத்து வா' என்று கூறினான். பின்னர் இருவரும் சாப்பிட அமர்கிறார்கள்.

அடுப்பறையில் இருப்பது 12 இட்லிகள்தான் என்பதை எப்படி கணவனுக்கு தெரிவிப்பது என்று குழம்பிய நிலையிலேயே இரண்டு தட்டுகளை எடுத்து வந்து கண வனுக்கும், அவனுடைய நண்பனுக்கும் வைத்து அதில் ஆளுக்கு நாலு இட்லியை வைத்தாள்.


மீதம் இருப்பது நாலு மட்டுமே என மனதுக்குள் படபடப்போடு கணக்கு வேறு போட்டுக்கொள்கிறாள். வைத்த வேகத்தில் நான்கு இட்லிகளையும் கணவன் வேகவேகமாக சாப்பிட்டுவிட பதற்றம் கொண்டவளாய் இரண்டு இட்லியை எடுத்து கணவனுக்கு வைப்பதற்காக குனியும் வேளையில், கணவன் சொன்னான் 'எனக்குப்போதும்.

நாலு இட்லிக்கு மேலேயா சாப்பிடுவது...?' என்று சொல்ல; அருகில் ரசித்து, ருசித்து இன்னும் சில இட்லிகள் சாப்பிடலாம் என எதிர்பார்த்திருந்த விருந்தாளி நண்பனுக்கோ வெடுக்கென்று ஆனது! அந்த நேரத்தில் இவளோ 'அண்ணா உங்களுக்கு...' என கணவனின் நண்பரை நோக்கிக்கேட்க, 'போதும்... போதும்... நான் எப்போதுமே மூன்று இட்லிதான் சாப்பிடுவேன். இன்று உன் கைப்பக்குவம் நான்கு இட்லிகளை சாப்பிட்டு விட்டேனம்மா...' என்று கூறி எழுந்தான் அந்த விருந்தாளி நண்பன்.


கை கழுவச் செல்லுகையில் மனைவியை கடக்கின்றபோது 'மீதமுள்ள நான்கை நீ சாப்பிட்டுவிடு' என்று கணவன் சொல்ல, தன் இதயத்தில் மட்டுமல்ல தான் சமைத்த பாத்திரத்தில் கூட எத்தனை இட்லிகள் இருக்கின்றன என்பதை பார்க்காமலே, தன் பார்வையைக் கொண்டே கணக்கிட்டுக் கொண்டதோடு; அந்த இக்கட்டில் இருந்தும் அழகாக தன்னை காத்திட்ட தன் கணவனை நினைத்து ஆச்சரியப்பட்டு மகிழ்ந்தாள் அந்தப் பெண்!

ஜெயலலிதா சொன்ன தோப்பு கதை
அதே விழாவில் அவர் சொன்ன இன்னொரு கதை..

’’ஒற்றுமையாய் வாழ்வதாலே உண்டு நன்மையே! வேற்றுமையை வளர்ப்பதனாலே விளையும் தீமையே, என்ற வரிகளை மனதில் வைத்து நீங்கள் ஒற்றுமையுடன் இருந்தால் அது வீட்டிற்கும், நாட்டிற்கும் நன்மை பயக்கும்.


ஒரு சமயம் சுற்றுலாப் பயணிகள் இயற்கை எழில் மிகுந்த ஓர் இடத்தை பார்வையிட்டு சென்று கொண்டிருந்தனர். பயண வழிகாட்டி ஒருவர், ஒவ்வொன்றைப் பற்றியும் அவர்களிடம் விரிவாக எடுத்துக் கூறினார்.

அப்போது, மிக உயரமான பெரிய மரங்கள் நெருக்கமாக அடர்த்தியாக வளர்ந்திருப்பதை சுற்றுலாப் பயணிகள் கண்டு வியப்புடன் நின்றார்கள். அது குறித்து வழிகாட்டியிடம் வினவினர்.


அதற்கு அந்த வழிகாட்டி, “வானம் தொடும் வரை வளரும் இம்மரங்கள் பெரு மழை மற்றும் சூறாவளிக் காற்று அடித்தாலும் விழுந்து போகாமல் அப்படியே இருக்கும். இந்த மரங்களின் வேர்கள் பூமியில் ஆழமாகக் கூட செல்வதில்லை; சில அடி தூரம் தான் செல்கின்றன என்று கூறினார்.


அது எப்படி முடியும்? இவ்வளவு பெரிய உயரமான மரத்தை அந்த சிறிய வேர்கள் எப்படி தாங்கிக் கொள்ளும்? சூறாவளிக் காற்று அடித்தால் நிச்சயமாக மரம் வேரோடு சாய்ந்து விடும் என்று ஒரு சுற்றுலாப் பயணி கூறினார். அதற்கு அந்த வழிகாட்டி அந்த மரம் தனித்தனியே வளருவது இல்லை.


அருகருகே வளர்ந்து ஒரு தோப்பை போன்று காட்சி தருகின்றது. ஒவ்வொரு மரமும் பார்ப்பதற்கு தனி மரமாக தெரிந்தாலும் அதன் வேர்கள் ஒன்றுடன் ஒன்று, பின்னிப் பிணைந்து இருக்கின்றன. அதனால் சூறாவளிக் காற்று வீசினாலும் ஒவ்வொரு மரத்தின் வேர்களும் தன் அருகில் இருக்கும் மரங்களின் வேர்களை அணைத்து இறுக்கிப் பிடித்துக் கொள்கின்றன என்று கூறினார்.


இந்த இயற்கையின் படைப்பாற்றலை நீங்கள், உங்கள் இல்லங்களில் பின்பற்றினால்; ஒற்றுமையை நிலைநாட்டினால்; அன்புடன் ஒருவருக்கு ஒருவர் விட்டுக் கொடுத்து வாழ்ந்தால்; சோதனைகள் சாதனைகளாகும்; தடைக் கற்கள் படிக்கற்களாகும்; உங்களுடைய வாழ்க்கை அமைதியானதாக, மகிழ்ச்சிகரமானதாக அமையும் என்பதைத் தெரிவித்துக் கொண்டு;

எம்ஜிஆரால் தோற்றுவிக்கப்பட்ட அனைத்திந்திய அண்ணா திராவிட முன்னேற்றக் கழகம் என்னும் இந்த மாபெரும் பேரியக்கத்தில் உறுப்பினர்களாக உள்ள என் உயிரினும் மேலான எனதருமைக் கழக உடன்பிறப்புகள் ஒவ்வொருவரும் இந்த ஒற்றுமையை, இந்த அன்பினை உங்களுடைய பொது வாழ்க்கையில் அரசியல் வாழ்க்கையில் கடைபிடித்து மக்கள் பணியாற்றினால்;

வருகின்ற நாடாளுமன்றப் பொதுத் தேர்தலில் 40 தொகுதிகளிலும் மக்கள் நமக்கு மகத்தான வெற்றியைத் தருவார்கள் என்பதைத் தெரிவித்து; அதற்கான பணியினை நீங்கள் இப்பொழுதே துவக்க வேண்டும் என்று உங்களை யெல்லாம் அன்போடு கேட்டுக் கொண்டு; முதியோருக்கு தேவையானவற்றை உங்கள் அன்புச் சகோதரியின் அரசு செய்து கொடுக்கும் என்பதையும் தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறேன்’’என்று கூறினார்.

I think in Sankarankoil, the opposition should have got united and fielded a common candidate. This four way contest is going to help ADMK and I think DMK will loose deposit.

No more waiting for chocolating.

Here you go guys the one most important data the whole SSC wants to see.

State-wise and District-wise and component wise GDP of Indian states(But only upto 2006 data)

http://planningcommission.nic.in/plans/stateplan/index.php?state=ssphdbody.htm

Enjoy and please write your opinions and start the discussions about cities and states in a healthy way. If Indicus does not gives us free we can get it from Planning commission.

Any reason GJ is not included ? If i say anymore it will end up in controversy.

No idea I relly wanted Gujarat data.

No idea I relly wanted Gujarat data.

Arul had posted recent data for tn somewhere where virudhunagar came top at 91k percapita

Arul had posted recent data for tn somewhere where virudhunagar came top at 91k percapita

It was just reverse calculation I did using state's total gdp.

chennaidesi

thank you very much.

Even in 2006, virudhunagar tops the gdp per capita!! which proves my reverse calculation might be close the actual results of 2010.

Salem/Coimbatore have very poor no. in railways..:nuts:

I had wanted to reply to kannan sir that day itself. was waiting for this.


Kannan sir had said italian people action taken against but tamil fisherman issue cg didnt bother.

He was wrong. among dead was one tamil and one mallu. Had it not been for Mohan das of the hindu organization who filed the petition in court, the bjp agitating, some pretty good coast guard officer, and most importantly the all crucial piravom bypoll, by now italians would have been free.

How can indian govt taken any action against italy people for killing indian people in indian water and try to escape.

Italian sphinx is there in delhi. kerala saint in delhi will do as ordered, navy forced to go slow.

anyother country wouldnt have taken so many days. straight away the ship would have been raided and the 2 who shot including captain who tried to escape without informing would have been arrested.


That navy wasnt even allowed to check what ship had, why it was so close to indian coast. no not done.

infact today magistrate had to order to search ship and recover gun used to shoot.

Now comes the comedy, but I am going to post as next reply as i dont want length of this post make people miss out on next part.

Now recently 3-4 days back father from kerala was made cardinal by pope. he is there in rome for that.

he now tells he has spoken to all christian leaders in india and to kv thomas food min of india, so that a peacefully sorted out./


wtf what peaceful sort? they have to go thru the law.

remember norway didnt mind india for 2-3 months and even when they decided to give child they have imposed consition on their parents indian citizens of how many days they visit india and once in how many yrs.

We saw in kudankulam this padre network against indian interests. Now again. The networks loyalty is to italy and usa depending on who their headquarter is.

shame.

I dont know how kannan sir forgot italy connection other day.

DMK’s MoS sought to derail 2G probe

http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-newspaper/44600-dmks-mos-sought-to-derail-2g-probe.html

CBI has lodged a strong protest with CVC on the “dirty tricks” of certain Income Tax officials to intimidate crucial witnesses in the 2G case allegedly at the behest of DMK’s Minister of State (Finance) SS Palanimanickam.

During the past five months, Income Tax officials have been serving regular notices to the relatives of around 10 2G case witnesses, who have deposed against DMK patriarch Karunanidhi’s daughter Kanimozhi. Pressure has been put on them to retract statements given to the CBI during the trial in the Special Court.

According to sources, CBI sleuths aired their displeasure to CVC on “back stabbing” by Income Tax officials especially from Tiruchirappally region of Tamil Nadu to derail the 2G case. The CBI approached the CVC since it has been empowered by Supreme Court to monitor the probe conducted by all investigative agencies, including Enforcement Directorate and Income Tax. Sources said the CBI has also alerted the top CBDT officials in New Delhi about the intimidation of the witnesses by Investigation Wing of Income Tax in Tamil Nadu.

Palanimanickam, who is a trusted lieutenant of Karunanidhi, has been in-charge of Income Tax and Revenue Department for the past eight years. He is alleged to be giving instructions to Deputy Director level officers in the Investigation Division to carry out raids and issue notices to the relatives of the crucial witnesses in 2G scam and force them to go back on their statements, said sources.

The dubious role played by the MoS Finance came out in open when Kanimozhi got a chance to stay in Chennai for three days, during the counting of State Assembly election in May 2011.

For ensuring that the Special trial court in Delhi permitted her to travel to Chennai during the poll results, the I-T department in Chennai all of a sudden sent her a notice to report to them in the city. Kanimozhi used this notice to obtain leave from the Special Court.

What is giving nightmares to the CBI is the fact that the same Tiruchirappally Division of Income Tax is also probing the money trail of jailed former Telecom Minister A Raja and his close relatives in 2G scam and illegal amassment of wealth by them. The probe has so far reached nowhere.

Meanwhile, 2G crusader and Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy on Tuesday demanded Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee shift Palanimanickam from the portfolio with immediate effect.

“I am getting reports that on the directions given by Palanimanickam, the officers of the Income Tax Department are harassing the witnesses of the 2G Spectrum Case.

Incidents have come to my knowledge that officers have gone to the residences and work places of the relatives of the witnesses with a message that these relatives should give statements against the witnesses to the effect that the witnesses hold income excess to their known sources of income. The officers of Customs & Central Excise Department have also been misused by Palanimanickam to threaten the relatives of Witnesses who are doing businesses in various places,” said Swamy in a petition to PM and Mukherjee.

“These acts of Palanimanickam appear to be to help Kanimozhi, daughter of Karunanidhi. By putting pressure on the witnesses he wants to derail the process of fair trial in the 2G Spectrum Case. Under these circumstances, I think it appropriate that Palanimanickam is unfit to be in your Council of Ministers. At least he should be shifted from the Ministry of Finance to any other portfolio where he cannot misuse the official machinery for intimidating the witnesses ,” Swamy said, adding that he would approach Supreme Court on this matter.

DMK was blackmailing lot of important people using this guy(income tax).

It was just reverse calculation I did using state's total gdp.

chennaidesi

thank you very much.

Even in 2006, virudhunagar tops the gdp per capita!! which proves my reverse calculation might be close the actual results of 2010.

Salem/Coimbatore have very poor no. in railways..:nuts:
For the past two days I am totally into different states gdp and trying to understand the strong areas of their gdp.(components).:)

Hope you are going to light up this thread based on your findings:lol:

DMK’s MoS sought to derail 2G probe
DMK was blackmailing lot of important people using this guy(income tax).
Ofcourse.. they are doing this..SG threatens the people to come out against DMK partymen. Immediately, those people are handed with IT raid..courtesy mr. ssp..
because of him only, Tamil cine industry people are not opening their bad mouth against DMK's arrogance in the last 5 yrs.
he is the guy behind Maran's ED case.. Thatha does not want maran to be forgiven and used SSP.

Why TN is silent on the Italian issue? Make some noise and get something (our share) to shut up instead of keeping mum.

Atleast they can pay more to the victim's family.

And USA. People like me travel multiple times a year (business, leisure etc).

Mr. Shyam:

Why do you throw cold water on everything?

Why not just accept the fact that Chennai is great in spite of a myriad of little minds waiting to pull it down?

Ved

Namma makkal response parthu Naan almost hope a vittutten.

Nobody responded from TN in TN as well as India threads.

Even now only Kumar has responded.

When & what & how the local Congies responded to Rameswaram Fishermen killing so far ?

How a TN Central minister have responded (since he is the Shipping Minister) to this west coast incident ?

Why the Italian marines are housed in CRPF guest house and not in a Jail ?

Why they are given the specially ordered italian food from a 5 star hotel ?

How the External Affairs ministry of Italy is acting (in comparison with ours in Rameswaram issue) to help their nationals ?

What it has to do with a particular religion and why the religious heads are involved ?

Lot of unanswerable questions.

A new Water issue crops up again... Its like a curse.. :(

TN farmers upset over Karnataka move

Farmers optimism on the state government giving a new lease to the Palar river has come a cropper with media reports suggesting that the Karnataka Government plans to block the flow of water to the Pennaiyar River altogether. Farmers here were optimistic that the state government would take up with the Union Ministry of Water Resources, the proposal to divert the excess flow of water from the Thenpennaiyar River below Krishnagiri reservoir to the water-starved Palar basin through a Pennaiyar-Palar link project. This would have given the Palar river and the northern districts of Tamil Nadu a new lease of life. The proposal to divert the excess water from Karnataka was made by the National Water Development Agency.

R Mullai, state executive member of the All India Kisan Sangh said that the proposed move is a gross violation of the Inter-state water agreement signed in 1892 and 1954. If implemented, it would mean immediate ruin for Krishnangiri, Dharmapuri and Tiruvannamalai districts and besides shattering hopes of making use of the excess water from the Pennaiyar river to replenish Palar.

Quoting the news reports, Mullai said that a ` 36 crore project aimed at blocking the Pennaiyar which originates from the Nandi hills in Karnataka and drains into Kodiyalam and KRP reservoirs in Krishnagiri. Pennaiyar currently supports farming activities on over 36,000 acres in the district.

The water thus blocked is planned to be diverted to replenish some 160 tanks in the Malur taluk in Karnataka, which is emerging as a ‘vegetable basket’ in the region. A number of corporates have established their farms here and they reportedly grow vegetables that are marketed through their� supermarket chains in Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu. “A part of the Thenpennai river extends even up to the Sathanur dam in Tiruvannamalai irrigating some 30,000 acres. It is also the main source of drinking water for many villages in the district,” added Mullai.

The Pennaiyar-Palar canal link as an Intra-State project was one of the 36 proposals received from seven states including Maharashtra, Gujarat, Jharkhand, Orissa, Bihar, Rajasthan and Tamil Nadu, which are being actively considered by the NDWA through the Ministry of Water resources.

Once the excess water from the Pennaiyar is diverted to the Palar, it would replenish the dry Palar basin and the hundreds of irrigation tanks en route that sustain the underground water table in the district.

While it is hoped that the TN government would pressurise the central government to implement the Pennaiyar-Palar link, news about the water diversion and the deprivation of it would cause in the districts of Krishnagiri and Vellore should be taken seriously and efforts must be initiated to stop� Karnataka’s move to cut water supply from the Pennaiyar.

Various associations in the district have also demanded a white paper on the issue from the Tamil Nadu State Government.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/tn-farmers-upset-over-karnataka-move/232600-60-118.html

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Namma makkal response parthu Naan almost hope a vittutten.

Nobody responded from TN in TN as well as India threads.

Even now only Kumar has responded.

When & what & how the local Congies responded to Rameswaram Fishermen killing so far ?

How a TN Central minister have responded (since he is the Shipping Minister) to this west coast incident ?

Why the Italian marines are housed in CRPF guest house and not in a Jail ?

Why they are given the specially ordered italian food from a 5 star hotel ?

How the External Affairs ministry of Italy is acting (in comparison with ours in Rameswaram issue) to help their nationals ?

What it has to do with a particular religion and why the religious heads are involved ?

Lot of unanswerable questions.

Italy connection is everywhere in India. Where were these so called priests when TN fishermen are hounded and killed by Lankan navy? From Quattrocchi in the top to this shooting. It seems one of the fisherman is Christian and there are efforts to silence him using the powerful arm of the churches by paying him. I think most TN fisherman also are of the same religion, in that case where were these fathers, Bishops and churches? I think for them job is done after converting them until they are from Italy or rich.

Life of a poor fisherman is nothing big for our government. Killing fisherman is like "kavau kodukurathu" for our governments to maintain peace with Lanka. Imagine if a minister's son is killed in this incident?

The stupid Udhayakumar should know that more fisherman will be killed if the killing spree continues by the Lankan navy than the dangers they list because of the atomic plant. He doesn't care about that .

I think the government will release them citing some laws (the vessel was on international water) and will say Italy's court will take care of the case. When some top Church official from Italy calls/meets Sonia the whole stuff ends there and families of the two, will be silenced by money power from churches. When that day arrives it will be shame on us. There wont be any difference between Pakistan and us. I think the reaction would have been totally different if Vajbai/BJP was in the power.

Mallus are up in arms with us for everything, Lets see what they are doing with this?

Kannan, when thousands of Tamils were killed we didn't care about that, do you think our people will worry when fisherman is killed?

Kannan, after writing all these I went to Kerala forums and searched for "fisherman", "italy" but could not find anything? Wondering what happened to Mallus?

The stupid Udhayakumar should know that more fisherman will be killed if the killing spree continues by the Lankan navy than the dangers they list because of the atomic plant. He doesn't care about that .



Well said. :applause:

Kannan, when thousands of Tamils were killed we didn't care about that, do you think our people will worry when fisherman is killed?

Agree with everything except this..

The comparison u made is not right.. One is citizens of a foreign country and the other i.e fishermen are citizens of my country..

P.S: Of course, my humanitarian side makes me sad to see any killings..

Agree with everything except this..

The comparison u made is not right.. One is citizens of a foreign country and the other i.e fishermen are citizens of my country..

P.S: Of course, my humanitarian side makes me sad to see any killings..

This is what differentiates Indians specially Tamil's from others. See When an Italian Christian is arrested, the church, fathers are coming out in public to diffuse that. Religion unites them. For us Religion, culture, Language or ethnics, nothing unites us. Can you tell me why the local fathers/Bishops are caring for some foreign citizens, when they are not caring for our citizens?

Don't we have Language, culture, Religion(mostly) in common with the so called foreign citizen? Are they same to you like people killed in Libya, Palestine and pakistan?

This is what differentiates Indians specially Tamil's from others. See When an Italian Christian is arrested, the church, fathers are coming out in public to diffuse that. Religion unites them. For us Religion, culture, Language or ethnics, nothing unites us. Can you tell me why the local fathers/Bishops are caring for some foreign citizens, when they are not caring for our citizens?

Don't we have Language, culture, Religion(mostly) in common with the so called foreign citizen? Are they same to you like people killed in Libya, Palestine and pakistan?

Of course the acts of the some fathers/bishops are despicable and I completely agree with u..

But, aren't u doing the same mistake in this Tamil issue?? For u, its ethnicity.. For them, its religion ( most times, huge sums of money they receive as donations)..

If u say what they are doing is wrong, then this tamil brotherhood concept of urs is wrong too.. And this is similar to the Muslim 'Ummah' concept which is one of the reasons for their jihad..

Of course the acts of the some fathers/bishops are despicable and I completely agree with u..

But, aren't u doing the same mistake in this Tamil issue?? For u, its ethnicity.. For them, its religion ( most times, huge sums of money they receive as donations)..

If u say what they are doing is wrong, then this tamil brotherhood concept of urs is wrong too.. And this is similar to the Muslim 'Ummah' concept which is one of the reasons for their jihad..
So what is nationality then?

Yes.. nationality too..

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ஒரு வாகனத்தின் பதிவு எண்ணைக் கொண்டு, அதன் உரிமையாளர் பெயரை உடனே தெரிந்துகொள்ளலாம். மத்திய அரசால் சமீபத்தில் கொண்டு வரப்பட்ட இந்தத் திட்டம், சட்ட விரோதமாகப் பயன்படுத்தப்படும் வாகனங்களை உடனே அடையாளம் கண்டுகொள்ள உதவும்.

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Kannan ayya thanks for that link. Very useful. Our car sold last year is still registered in my father's name. Is it possible to get the new owners to change it? Is there a way to notify the RTO?

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Any idea which year this bridge was build?

This is going viral...
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^^ I thought this is going viral.. probably both

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^^ Yeah but the girl in pink is not there in the second one :colgate:....

A rip off from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0

Oil production is still not reached its peak, there are plenty of oil resources which can be tapped (oil sands of alberta etc)for next 100 years but we still need to focus on renewable energy right now to reduce the dependency on oil imports.

Well here is the actual production figures for the last 16 years. Note the rapid increase when there was actual spare capacity till 2004. Also note the tight production band between 73 to 74.5 mbpd which has held on for about 7 years now when the spare capacity has existed only on paper.

http://www.scitizen.com/cacheDirectory/HTMLcontributions/img/Conventional%20Oil%201.gif

And oil sands is not even "oil" sands. That is just a wordy mumbo jumbo made up by commercial interests to lull people into complacency. It has a chemical called kerogen which can be converted to synthetic oil which has nowhere near the calorific content of conventional crude.

but i heard, America has huge Oil resources. but they are not going to drill it till the other resources dry..

Will Jaya bat for Stalin to see the back of Vijayakanth?

http://www.sify.com/news/will-jaya-bat-for-stalin-to-see-the-back-of-vijayakanth-news-columns-mcvu3Sihfcj.html

Weird as it may seem, the AIADMK is more keen than the DMK even to see Karunanidhi's son and arch rival M K Stalin take over the mantle of Opposition Leader in the Tamil Nadu Assembly.

The AIADMK alliance with the DMDK lasted just a few months and although the tie-up was extremely successful in the May elections, events in the last session have set the two parties on a bitter collision course. At the end of the May polls, the DMDK had notched up 29 seats and its leader Vijayakanth came out as the Leader of the Opposition in the State Assembly.

The suspension of Vijayakanth, at the instance of the ruling AIADMK, and the sharp exchange of words between Chief Minister J Jayalalithaa and the actor, the attack on posters of the two parties and the occasional physical clash between their supporters have all led to a critical end point.

The AIADMK leadership is keen on snatching the post of Opposition Leader from Vijayakanth and handing it over to DMK’s Stalin. Under the old maxim of picking your enemy wisely, the AIADMK now sees Vijayakanth as far worse than Stalin.

The secret plan hatched by the AIADMK is to break the DMDK and wean away at least 8 MLAs to reduce the DMDK to third position in the Assembly. The DMK, with just 23 MLAs, could well end up as the main opposition in the House, thanks to the AIADMK.

AIADMK sources say that Jaya is extremely upset over the tone and tenor of Vijayakanth's accusations against the AIADMK.

No one even in the DMK has spoken to Jayalalithaa in the manner that Vijayakanth has done in the last few weeks, they claim. This is something that the AIADMK cannot digest. The strategy is not just to teach the "ungrateful" Vijayakanth a lesson but also to cut the DMDK down to size and belittle it in the eyes of the public so that the actor cannot position himself as an alternative to Jayalalithaa.

The problem for the AIADMK is that although certain fringe leaders of the DMDK have quit the DMDK and joined Amma's party, there has been no success so far in their plan to target the DMDK MLAs.

Sources say that the DMDK is proving a hard nut to crack, especially since Vijayakanth had given tickets by and large to activists of his fan clubs (rasikar manrams). These fans-turned-MLAs are extremely loyal to Vijayakanth and have so far turned down offers of power and money.

It would be a windfall gain for Stalin if the AIADMK's plan succeeds. Firstly, it would provide Stalin the ideal platform to project himself as the chief ministerial aspirant in the next Assembly elections. Secondly, he would acquire status and an eminent position in the Assembly since the Leader of the Opposition could get up at any point of time and be heard in the House as a matter of right.

Thirdly, the DMDK would be pushed to third position, behind the DMK. At present, the DMK finds itself in an embarrassing position of being seen as third in the Assembly so it becomes a matter of pride for the DMK to ensure AIADMK's plan unfold.

One reason why the AIADMK has no inhibitions in elevating Stalin is that the ties between Jayalalithaa and Stalin are much better than that between the AIADMK and the DMK. Man to man, AIADMK leaders concede that Stalin had been decent even when the DMK was in power and he was its Deputy Chief Minister.

They point out that Stalin wanted to personally invite Jayalalithaa to the opening of the new Secretariat building during DMK rule but his father prevented it since he felt it would provide an opportunity for Jayalalithaa to meet UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Stalin was also responsible for the odd friendly gesture of the House granting Jayalalithaa permission to stay away from the Assembly for a long period on grounds of ill-health.

Stalin's speeches, even though directed against the AIADMK, were not marked by rancour. Personal barbs were rare. During the campaign for the May 2011 elections, the AIADMK guns were trained more at Karunanidhi’s other son, M K Azhagiri, rather than Stalin.

It is under this context that Jaya's secret moves are gaining momentum. It is therefore no surprise that Jayalalithaa should now choose to bat for Stalin.

Of course the acts of the some fathers/bishops are despicable and I completely agree with u..

But, aren't u doing the same mistake in this Tamil issue?? For u, its ethnicity.. For them, its religion ( most times, huge sums of money they receive as donations)..

If u say what they are doing is wrong, then this tamil brotherhood concept of urs is wrong too.. And this is similar to the Muslim 'Ummah' concept which is one of the reasons for their jihad..

You are talking about extremism. Madha verikum, Mada patrukum there is a lot of difference. When you kill somebody in the name of language its called Mozhi veri. Whatever Tamils faced in SL is Mozhi veri + madha veri. Beleive me, I have see this lot in real life not through papers and news. Please dont compare Muslim 'Ummah' with this. Its like degrading ourselves. Ummah was not born out of brotherhood, it was born from the wrong preachings/or wrong understand of perching. Ummah tells to kill anybody, who dont beleive in Islam, even if the person is a muslim. I dont know how to relate this to Tamil issues.

There is no concept of Tamil brotherhood here, its just Tamil, the reason we are in this forum.

One question, so what unite us as Tamils? as Indians ? If we take your logic in real life you should not have any friends at all.

but i heard, America has huge Oil resources. but they are not going to drill it till the other resources dry..

Athellam summa lolalaaye. If they have "huge" reserves, there is no reason to do fracking of shale formations and go kilometres deep for drilling in the gulf of Mexico. American production peaked in 1970 at 10 million barrels per day. After that, it has been on a continuous decline. They had a temporary relief when Prudhoe bay brought some relief in the eighties but that too was short lived. Now they are producing a little more than 5.5 mbpd.

Here is the American production graph

http://www.getreallist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/US_crude_production_1900-2007.jpg

The pink colour is the Prudhoe bay (northern Alaska) production.

but i heard, America has huge Oil resources. but they are not going to drill it till the other resources dry..


Wait for the North Dakota drilling to bear fruits

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/energy/article/U-S-oil-output-set-to-boom-3345237.php

leave that, then big rumour during election time was stalin lost but jaya ensured he won.

Bogus Benami Transactions-Scam of “108 Ambulance Service”

NRHM Scam of Chidambaram Family

The Congress-UPA Government at Centre and Gehalot Government of Rajasthan are indulged into cover up operation to protect Ziqitza Health Care Limited, a company of son’s of Congress Leaders. Dr. Kirit Somaiya, BJP National Secretary and Chairman Scam Expose Committee today released around 150 pages of documentary evidences of NRHM Scam of Ziqitza. The evidences also include the cover up operation issuing instructions to the Health Ministry to stop investigation and action.

The “108 Ambulance Service” National Rural Health Mission Scheme of Government of India is jointly run by the State and Central Government. This is same scheme under which the NRHM Scam of Uttar Pradesh took place. Ziqitza is a Company having Directors/Share holders of Sons and Son-in-law of Congress leaders.

Karthi Chidambaram, son of P Chidambaram
Ravi Krishna, son of Vayalar Ravi
Sweta Mangal


Ziqitza has been awarded contract in non-transparent manner have raised crores of rupees bills in scandalous manner with the help of benami and bogus trips of ambulances, carrying patients to and fro hospitals in Rajasthan.

Observations of the Health Ministry:-

Ziqitza has been allotted contract without having transparent competitive bidding.
The company has been awarded execution of NRHM project in States like Rajasthan, Maharashtra.
The project is going on for two years.
Queries consistently raised by officials at District level, State level and Directors, NRHM.
Bills have been raised for the ambulances which do not exist/off the road, e.g. thousands trips of 50 ambulances (which were of the road) in the bill of September, 2011.
Double billing of the same trips, e.g. Ramdev Mala, Jodhpur.
Ziqitza has shown 55,326 trips in September, 2011 while the actual trips found 37,458.
Bogus phone calls/trips observed by Ministry.
The daily statement/bill of Ziqitza shows
Trips No.

Date

Call Time

On Scene Time

85078

3 Sep 2011

2.26am

2.20am

87420

4 Sep 2011

2.17am

2.15am

89659

5 Sep 2011

12.41pm

11.20am

92295

6 Sep 2011

06.50pm

16.30pm

The arrival time of the ambulance on site is shown before the time of the phone call.

10. In the similar manner bogus entries have In the similar manner

Trips ID

Date

Time of Call

Time Ambulance Reaches

82493

2.09.11

1.01am

22.25pm

89246

5.09.11

1.27am

18.08pm

89337

6.09.11

1.58am

5.45am

In spite emergency ambulance services, ambulance reached the site after 10 to 22 hours.

11. Double trips have been shown

Sr No

Trip ID

Patient Name

Telephone No.

1

71438 & 70737

Santosh/ Santosh

01464222067

2

91272 & 91038

Maya / Maya

01575699600

3

182270 & 182446

Alissa/ Alissa

02942100108

12. The officials at NRHM took strong objections and initiated action against the company.

13. Cover up operations initiated Chief Secretary; Health Secretary held urgent meetings and issued directives to stop investigation and action.

Dr. Kirit Somaiya demanded investigation of NRHM Scam by Special Investigation Team. Dr. Somaiya also produced the copies of official documents of Health Ministry, NRHM, investigation, action, cover up operation and the records of the company including names of Directors/Share Holders.

http://www.bjp.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7690:press-shri-kirit-somaiya-on-nrhm-scam-of-chidambaram-family&catid=68:press-releases&Itemid=494

The BJP on Tuesday claimed to have unearthed an “ambulance scam” in Rajasthan, involving sons of union home minister P Chidambaram and minister for Oversees Indian Affairs Valayar Ravi.

BJP’s national secretary Kirit Somaiya said there were documentary evidence of the National Rural Health Mission Scam (NRHM) that reveal the scam involving Ziqitza Health Care Limited, a company which has Chidambaram’s son Karthi Chidambaram, Vayalar Ravi’s son Ravi Krishna and one Sweta Mangal as stake holders.

He alleged that Ziqitza was awarded contract to operate ambulance service in a non-transparent manner and the company earned crores of rupees in scandalous manner —fake bills and bogus trips of ambulances, carrying patients in Rajasthan.

He alleged that bills were produced for the ambulance vans that did not exist or were off the road.

When DNA tried to contact Vayalar Ravi for reaction, he was in a meeting. Though his aide told the reporter that the minister would call DNA up after the meeting, there was no response till the time of filing of the report.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_bjp-digs-up-scam-against-pc-vayalar-sons_1653324

108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டம்: கார்த்தி சிதம்பரம் பார்ட்னராக உள்ள நிறுவனம் மீது ஊழல் புகார் (http://tamil.oneindia.in/news/2012/02/22/india-somaiya-alleges-corruption-rajasthan-aid0091.html)
லக்னோ: மத்திய அமைச்சர்கள் ப.சிதம்பரம், வயலார் ரவி ஆகியோரின் மகன்களான கார்த்தி சிதம்பரம், ரவி கிருஷ்ணா ஆகியோர் பங்குதாரர்களாக உள்ள நிறுவனத்தின் ஒப்பந்தத்தின் கீழ் ராஜஸ்தான் மாநிலத்தில் இயக்கப்பட்டு வரும் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டத்தில் மாபெரும் ஊழல் நடந்துள்ளதாக பாஜக குற்றம் சாட்டியுள்ளது. இதுதொடர்பாக விரிவான விசாரணை நடத்த வேண்டும் என்றும் அக்கட்சி கோரியுள்ளது.

இதுதொடர்பாக பாஜக தேசியச் செயலாளர் கிரிட் சோமையா என்பவரது தலைமையில் ஊழலை வெளிப்படுத்தும் குழு ஒன்று அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. அந்தக் குழு தேசிய கிராமப்புற சுகாதார இயக்கத் திட்டத்தின் கீழ் ராஜஸ்தான் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் திட்டத்தில் நடந்து வரும் ஊழல் குறித்து 150 பக்கம் கொண்ட அறிக்கையை வெளியிட்டுள்ளது.

இதை டெல்லியில் வெளியிட்டுப் பேசிய சோமையா கூறுகையில்,

மத்தியில் காங்கிரஸ் தலைமையிலான ஐக்கிய முற்போக்குக் கூட்டணி அரசும் ராஜஸ்தான் மாநிலத்தில் அசோக் கெலோட் தலைமையிலான காங்கிரஸ் அரசும் சேர்ந்து காங்கிரஸ் அமைச்சர்களின் மகன்கள் அங்கம் வகிக்கும் நிறுவனத்தைப் பாதுகாக்கும் முயற்சியில் ஈடுபட்டுள்ளன.

தேசிய கிராமப்புற சுகாதார இயக்கத் திட்டத்தின் கீழ் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் சேவையை மத்திய அரசும் ராஜஸ்தான் மாநில அரசும் இணைந்து செயல்படுத்துகின்றன. இத்திட்டத்துக்காக ஜிகிட்ஜா ஹெல்த் கேர் நிறுவனம் ஆம்புலன்ஸ்களை இயக்கி வருகிறது. ஆனால், வெளிப்படையற்ற முறையில் பினாமியாகவும் இல்லாத பயணத்துக்கு நோயாளிகளை அழைத்துச் சென்றது போலவும் கணக்குக் காட்டப்படுகிறது. இதன் மூலம் பல கோடி ரூபாய் ஊழல் நடைபெற்றுள்ளது.

இந்த நிறுவனத்தில் இயக்குநர்களாகவும் பங்குதாரர்களாகவும் மத்திய அமைச்சர் ப. சிதம்பரத்தின் மகன் கார்த்தி சிதம்பரம், மத்திய அமைச்சர் வயலார் ரவியின் மகன் ரவி கிருஷ்ணா, ஸ்வேதா மங்கள் ஆகியோர் உள்ளனர். இந்த நிறுவனத்துக்குப் போட்டியின்றி வெளிப்படையற்ற முறையில் ஒப்பந்தம் அளிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

ராஜஸ்தான், மகாராஷ்டிரம் ஆகிய மாநிலங்களில் 108 ஆம்புலன்ஸ் சேவை வழங்கும் பணியில் இந்த நிறுவனம் இரண்டு ஆண்டுகளாக ஈடுபட்டுள்ளது. இந்த நிறுவனத்தின் செயல்பாடு தொடர்பாக மாவட்ட, மாநில அளவிலும், தேசிய கிராமப்புற சுகாதார இயக்க திட்ட இயக்குநர்கள் மூலமும் பல முறை விளக்கம் கோரப்பட்டுள்ளது. உத்தரப் பிரதேச மாநிலத்தில் இதே திட்டத்தில்தான் ஊழல் நடைபெற்றது.

இல்லாத ஆம்புலன்ஸ்கள் செயல்படுவதாக ரசீது பதிவு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. உதாரணமாக கடந்த செப்டம்பர் மாதம், 50 ஆம்புலன்ஸ்கள் 55,326 முறை சேவை வழங்கியதாகக் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆனால் ஆய்வு செய்தபோது, 37,458 முறைதான் அவை இயக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.

இது பற்றித் தகவல் கிடைத்தும் சம்பந்தப்பட்ட நிறுவனம் மீது தேசிய கிராமப்புற சுகாதார இயக்க திட்ட அதிகாரிகள் நடவடிக்கை எடுத்துள்ளனர். இந்த நிலையில், ராஜஸ்தான் மாநில தலைமைச் செயலர், மத்திய சுகாதாரச் செயலர் அவசரக் கூட்டம் நடத்தி விசாரணை நடவடிக்கையை நிறுத்திவிட்டனர்.

இந்த ஊழல் விவகாரம் குறித்து உடனடியாக சிறப்பு புலனாய்வுக் குழு அமைத்து விசாரிக்க வேண்டும். சர்ச்சைக்குரிய நிறுவனத்தின் இயக்குநர்கள், பங்குதாரர்கள் மீது நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும் என்றார்.

Kumar,
as per your source, UP is heading for presidents rule?
both cong and BJP are not going to support SP, BSP?
Cong will not support SP. but are they ready to take the support of SP,BSP to form Govt?

This North Dakota (Bakken formation) is another myth bandied about in media. Worldwide existing fields are declining at about 4.5 mbpd. North Dakota is producing at about 400K mpd (with little scope for going higher). Somehow for the media, this is the solution for the world's energy problems. Infact it is the combination of discoveries like these which maintains the production at 74 mbpd. Otherwise it will be decreasing at around 4 mpd per year. The oil industry is running furiously just to stay still.

Otherwise it will be decreasing at around 4 mpd per year. The oil industry is running furiously just to stay still.
Already there are marked cry in u.s to use public transport, car pooling..
but in India.. just opposite.. we are encouraging tom and dick to buy a car without expanding roads..India is becoming the culprit for oil wastage.

Already there are marked cry in u.s to use public transport, car pooling..
but in India.. just opposite.. we are encouraging tom and dick to buy a car without expanding roads..India is becoming the culprit for oil wastage.

The biggest encouragement is the subsidy on diesel. Link it to the market rates and that will solve most of the problem.

This North Dakota (Bakken formation) is another myth bandied about in media. Worldwide existing fields are declining at about 4.5 mbpd. North Dakota is producing at about 400K mpd (with little scope for going higher). Somehow for the media, this is the solution for the world's energy problems. Infact it is the combination of discoveries like these which maintains the production at 74 mbpd. Otherwise it will be decreasing at around 4 mpd per year. The oil industry is running furiously just to stay still.

Did you join Obama 2012 campaign team? ;) We can continue in energy thread if you want to

do we have a energy thread?

do we have a energy thread?

ஒரு ஜீரோ வாட்ட் குண்டு பல்பு எரிய கூட பவர் இல்லாத ஊருல "மெகா பவர் ப்ராஜெக்ட்" பத்தி பேச ஒரு கடை போட்டிருக்கோம் இல்ல அந்த டீ கடைய தான் சொன்னேன். இதுக்கு பேரு தான் ஆளே இல்லாத கடைல டீ ஆத்துறதோ?, anyway ciao there or AA

KT: Shoot

all bank 5 robbers shot dead and booty recovered/../

continued from IR thread

This North Dakota (Bakken formation) is another myth bandied about in media. Worldwide existing fields are declining at about 4.5 mbpd. North Dakota is producing at about 400K mpd (with little scope for going higher). Somehow for the media, this is the solution for the world's energy problems. Infact it is the combination of discoveries like these which maintains the production at 74 mbpd. Otherwise it will be decreasing at around 4 mpd per year. The oil industry is running furiously just to stay still.


To quote Jeff Siegel "the numbers coming out of ND don't lie and in just five of the largest oil and gas deals of 2011, major oil and gas companies spent more than $105 billion to get their hands on these domestic properties. That's billion with a 'b'".

North Dakota is now producing 510,000 barrels a day

10 percent of all rigs drilling in the U.S. have been deployed to North Dakota

North Dakota surpassed Ecuador (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-10/north-dakota-oil-production-jumps-42-as-shale-drilling-expands.html)(OPEC member) already in oil production

yep, as I have said, these just helps oil industry stay where they are. There is absolutely no increase in the total crude produced over the 7 years.

yep, as I have said, these just helps oil industry stay where they are. There is absolutely no increase in the total crude produced over the 7 years.

Well it just began. You got to wait for results. We had egypt, libya crisis too and I don't have a stat on how much impact it had on productivity

If reports are to be believed, US could be the largest oil and natural gas producing country by end of 2017 (just because of this ND exploration) and could end the dependency on middle east

http://news.thomasnet.com/green_clean/2011/10/07/oil-boom-good-for-north-dakota-bad-for-green-tech/

Extremely high paying jobs are available, executives are sleeping in mobile homes, parking lots not because they are broke, just because the area in the state has no homes :-))


http://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140784004/new-boom-reshapes-oil-world-rocks-north-dakota

Well it just began. You got to wait for results. We had egypt, libya crisis too and I don't have a stat on how much impact it had on productivity

If reports are to be believed, US could be the largest oil and natural gas producing country by end of 2017 (just because of this ND exploration) and could end the dependency on middle east
KT,
I heard that West Virginia has lot of crude depositories..around the "Golden temple" by ISKON

USGS says there is around 3-4.3 billion barrels (http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911) of technically recoverable oil in Bakken formation. Hmmm impressive but how long will 4 billion barrel last with the current pace of global consumption? 48 days! How long will it last if US consumes fully from the bakken? 240 days!! Do you think this is a saviour?? Infact Prudhoe bay was 6 times larger than this bakken formation.

US will eventually have energy independence not because ND will shoot up but because the prices will climb up so high that demand will fall towards 5 or 6 million bpd.

krishnaswamy,

Cong will opt for president rule. change in strategy i think. if president rule comes, then elections have to be held in 6 months as if both bjp cong dont support, assembly in suspended animation will have to be disssolved as parliament wont give extension.

once they do that elections again will be around NOv. and guess what the most charged up election after UP - GUJ 2012 due in nov. so UP, guj and himachal will go in nov.

cong wants that as modi talk will be big, modi cant find time to campaign in UP, this time he not being there is straegic and sanjay joshi plants are delibrate.

now if mamta pulls plug or even rahul decides, General elections -2012 in NOV.

Modi cant campaign all over india as he has state polls. huge objective achieved.

He cant be projected PM or be chairman campaign comm.

This is scenario 1.

This scenario is when BJP gets 100-110

scenario 2.

while BJP is likely to get 140, there are close to 70-80 seats where very very close contests expected. bjp is mostly 2nd or 1st in these.

This could mean bjp could end up with 110 on lower spectrum while also ending up with 170 on higher spectrum.

if they finish anywhere between 160-165, section of bsp will break and also peace party will offer support. yes peace party.

There is utter confusion among caste votes as they differ district by district and not enbloc over whole up as it used to be.

I wont be surprised if bjp forms govt. in 2007 pundits said bjp getting 125 maya 130 but you know bjp got 50, maya 200 odd.

If scenario 1 happens i expect cg to pump crores into UP for governor to show some development- visible development like roads.

other states can go to hell.

in scenario 1 rahul may or ,may not call for gen elxn depending on sonia.

All in all mar 6th will most likely decide whether we have next gen elxn this yr or not.

I hope BJP doesnt allow presidents rule, as once you have presidents rule, in genral election cong will do really well in UP.

take with a pinch of salt as I could go horribly wrong. btwn delhi rumours say yogendra yadav advising the crown prince as strategist for UP going to street level caste calculus.

krishnaswamy,
while BJP is likely to get 140, there are close to 70-80 seats where very very close contests expected. bjp is mostly 2nd or 1st in these.

This could mean bjp could end up with 110 on lower spectrum while also ending up with 170 on higher spectrum.
BJP with 110 to 170?
I have 2 things to say:
Case 1: are you sure?
because i was watching shows on IBN,ndtv.
both yogendra or Pranoy Roy did not give any chance to BJP...
when Sudheendra kulkarni of BJP told "there is an under current", Pranoy made fun of him..."tell me how deep it is.. we could not find any under current"

Case 2:My gusty feeling supports BJP to win nearly 150 to 170 seats. because they know that muslim votes will be split between SP & cong. Also Peaceparty will dent SP, Cong to a extent in terms % of votes.
so SP & cong will defeat each other. Maya may not get all OBC votes.
So BJP is trying to Woo those OBC votes +non muslim votes+brahmin votes..

but JD(U) contesting independently.. how significant they will be to split BJP votes?

all bank 5 robbers shot dead and booty recovered/../


Good Job by Chennai police :applause:. This will prevent such incidents in future.

all bank 5 robbers shot dead and booty recovered/../
where you got this news?

jdu? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

there is pic of sharad yadav rally with just 10 people in huge ground. nitish kumar stopped rally after phase 1 when he had sparse crowds and same place sushil modi was drawing huge crowds.

i wont comment anything abut these super pundits who predicted dmk win. that yogendra yadav had date for 165 as all delhi people told that but his super brain meant he applied corrections and said 132.

he said mosi will loose guj 2007, bjp will get 125 in up 2007. he said in guj 2007 he travelled full of saurashtra bjp was loosing big time, patels upset and other nonsense. BJP swept saurashtra completely.

all in all just take a look at this bjpup2012.blogspot.in

its just a pics only blog.

there are adiitional two pics. see priyanka crowd in rae bareilly and mms crowd in kanpur. tell if media told you that.

or media told you that rajnath addresses 6-8 rallies every day and even addresses in small villages. none will tell you. they say bjp leaders not campaigning.

tomorrow bundelkhand will be swept by bjp. varun gandhi will be sweeping 12 seats allotted to him probably as for last one month even kuk gramam he is holding a meeting.

similarly yogi adityanand will sweep gorakhpur area.

jdu? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

there is pic of sharad yadav rally with just 10 people in huge ground. nitish kumar stopped rally after phase 1 when he had sparse crowds and same place sushil modi was drawing huge crowds.

all in all just take a look at this bjpup2012.blogspot.in
there are adiitional two pics. see priyanka crowd in rae bareilly and mms crowd in kanpur. tell if media told you that.

or media told you that rajnath addresses 6-8 rallies every day and even addresses in small villages. none will tell you. they say bjp leaders not campaigning.
i did not have much idea about impact of JD(U) in UP. so i have asked. i did not know they are like BSP in TN :lol::lol:
you are right..that none of the media covers BJP campaigning. I think they decided that BJP will loose because they have put Ram manthir in their manifesto..
thanks for the info..

where you got this news?


http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/news/tnnews/1202/23/1120223006_1.htm

leave that, then big rumour during election time was stalin lost but jaya ensured he won.

Wasn't sure whether JJ (or) sasi someone made sure stalin is not defeated eventhough he was trailing badly in the initial rounds. So DMK made sure saidai duraisamy didn't have any issues in getting elected as chennai mayor.

but bjp has lot of infights between Kalraj Misra, Uma Bharathy...that is why they are yet to name their CM candidate..
Also inducting Kushua dent their images badly. Also Elevation of Rajnath singh's son also not liked by lot of BJP leaders..
1 thing i noticed is media is terribly underplaying BJP and even BJP leaders are also silently agreeing to it..
i did not see any show where they claim that they will win 200 seats. they keep on saying they will win more than 100 and none of the show anchors are not believing it.. Sagarika, Rajdeep, now Pranoy Roy too.. Sekhar did not open his mouth on it...
how is Sekhar of indian express? is he also big guy like prabhu chawla?

Wasn't sure whether JJ (or) sasi someone made sure stalin is not defeated eventhough he was trailing badly in the initial rounds.
quite possible. jaya and stalin ve some understanding. jaya sees stalin as an appavi.



So DMK made sure saidai duraisamy didn't have any issues in getting elected as chennai mayor.

no, the secret understanding is only between jaya and stalin, not with dmk.

Stalin or JJ will be CM for the next 20-30 years?

Stalin or JJ will be CM for the next 20-30 years?
both of their health will not permit..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UKyN1r_yCZM/Tz9K5sLos3I/AAAAAAAABTY/am_v5cSfTaQ/s320/Priyanka%2Bgandhi%2Bin%2BRaebareli%2Bvia.jpg

That is priyanka rally in raebareli. pic posted by ndtv hindi part time reporter in her twitter account.

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singhu un kadamai unarchai parattaren, yarume illadha kootathuku ippadi kai attaraye


This is how media has been coopted.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IIO0vGEYt9w/Tz0O29meK_I/AAAAAAAABSU/gk_0WkoR-Uw/s320/download.jpg

no no this is not usual tasmac biriyani crowd.

and yogen and prannoy have audacity to say he sees bjp nowhere.

worst prannoy was doing show from jhansi capital of UP bundelkhand and bjp is sweeping it.
No no I am not claiming out of thin air, now even hindi media acknowledges it. those who know hindi can read title.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5MBrbnGaHEA/T0UE0zt4thI/AAAAAAAABY4/RgnVFQQ6ywE/s320/BP114811-large.jpg

The national media is prostitute or as some one put presstitute.

I repeat, you believe in english language media you will be biggest fools. they will never say truth but do what cong wants with a mix of either side thrown in.

best example i have seen till date was anchors of english media questioning, on gujarat issue,

riots broke out on feb 28 afternoon, army was in only on march 1st after 3 days.

year :2002. month feb. last date :28. next day : mar 1st. but for that intelligent media fellow mar 1-feb28 is 3days.

army was asked for in morning of feb 28 as precautionary measure and had started landing in their local unit by feb 28 night and mar 1st morning and by afternoon after clearance from local army unit was deployed. n

That was the best nonsense i have seen till date in national media.

What health problems? With the kind of money they have it will be taken care..remember MGR could live longer with ill health for a long time..

but none of the BJP top leaders questioned the big media about it. not even the spokeperson asked why they did not cover BJP..
media cover even, Salman khursid,Beni prasad varma,

Krishnaswamy,

kushwaha ? dent image? that was kick ass street smart politicking from Nitin Gadkari and Sanjay Joshi. Kushwaha is the one pushing BJP tally up and has completely created confusion in mbcobc votes. its not 4% as english media tell, its a cool 12% block

only english language media will tell kushwaha nonsense because in urban india bjp image needs to be dented else in 2014 100 seats will be from urban seats itself for bjp.

none will tell you that its only in bjp there is internal protest mechanism to stall a move of party president. imagine what congress does if sonia takes a decision.

Kalraj mishra uma bharthy?

media hyped. kalraj mishra lost elections and was surviving in just rajya sabha. his term ends. He was well told what his role was before. BJP allowed that hype to create impression for brahmins he is incharge.

BJP wants underplay as now no one will think bjp can do decently well and there wont be anti bjp voting. that why modi didnt campaign and vaarun didnt get out of the 12 seats or lka did only 5 rallies.

3 chota mota leaders quit bjp for elevation of rajnath singh. in 2007 these leaders lost assembly elections failing to recover deposit.

rajnath has addressed max rallies drawing superb crowds and thakurs are flocking to bjp. thakurs with sp due to amar singh are going back to bjp as sp further kicked out only other thakur their speaker, before election for speaking against akilesh decision.

So these media created nonsense can go take hike.

in congress

beni prasad and pl punia - a kurmi and dalit fought each other on polling day and ensured both their people lost.

Salman khurshid, rita bahuguna dont get well. each cm aspirant. diggy plays his own game.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-14O06svkT2w/Tz9MjLyEFqI/AAAAAAAABTw/CsDfX_XYKqI/s320/h2lxo.jpg

btwn this is kushwaha rally in support of BJP


now decide about media created mirages.

krishnaswamy,

media will cover cong chamchas as they are paid to do that and not cover bjo. cong didnt want because then M may vote enbloc for SP. BJP said thank you congress.

btwn no media will talk about baba ramdev rally. past one month he is holding his camps in UP. besides his huge loyal following he is also a YADAV. no media would even discuss that. for them the effect is nonexistent.

remember in UP even 1 % up or down can have huge effects.

hm.. .Vinod mehta and other editors claiming that BJP is defeated themselves by taking Kushwaha..
interesting..lets see..on March 6.. lets see on March 3rd on the project numbers..
if BJP winning in UP means, uttarakhand and Punjab it might be sweep there also..

uttarakhand and punjab are dicey and can go either way. Nishank has tried damaging 6 seats in LS where Khanduri stands.

since this is not usual khanduri seat and stood from nishank loyalist seat he has tried to defeat khanduri himself. whichever way these 6 seats go, will determine the election in UK.

Punjab can be anything from sad-bjp win to cong win to hung assembly with manpreet badal to decide with his 2 seats who will rule.

KT,
I heard that West Virginia has lot of crude depositories..around the "Golden temple" by ISKON

Are you talking about Marcellus shale?

Are you talking about Marcellus shale?
i could not remember the source. one of my friend told me..i did not dig deep into that time..
found that most of WV is reserved.

hm.. .Vinod mehta and other editors claiming that BJP is defeated themselves by taking Kushwaha..
interesting..lets see..on March 6.. lets see on March 3rd on the project numbers..
if BJP winning in UP means, uttarakhand and Punjab it might be sweep there also..

After seeing BJP performance in Assam & WB, I don't think they will get second spot in UP. Anyway is Maya better than mulayam and fool Rahul?

You are talking about extremism. Madha verikum, Mada patrukum there is a lot of difference. When you kill somebody in the name of language its called Mozhi veri. Whatever Tamils faced in SL is Mozhi veri + madha veri. Beleive me, I have see this lot in real life not through papers and news. Please dont compare Muslim 'Ummah' with this. Its like degrading ourselves. Ummah was not born out of brotherhood, it was born from the wrong preachings/or wrong understand of perching. Ummah tells to kill anybody, who dont beleive in Islam, even if the person is a muslim. I dont know how to relate this to Tamil issues.

There is no concept of Tamil brotherhood here, its just Tamil, the reason we are in this forum.

One question, so what unite us as Tamils? as Indians ? If we take your logic in real life you should not have any friends at all.

Dude..

I was just pointing out to the discrepancies in ur argument..

On one hand, u blame the fathers/bishops etc while in the next few lines, u adopt the similar methods in the tamil issue..

Ummah concept is that all muslims are brothers and sees the entire Muslim world as one community or nation... It doesn't tell anybody to kill or anything.. Get ur facts right.

Ummah is why, the attacks on Palestine ( major issue) is seen as an attack on the whole Muslim world and Al Qaeda and taliban(based in Afghan) attacked US. Or else, why should someone from Afghan or Saudi get riled up over Palestine.. Coz it is seen as an attack on their Muslim brothers and not on a freedom struggle of Palestine people.

Similarly, we tamils in TN see tamils of SL as our brothers and the emotional connect.

I don't understand how u don't see the connection btwn Ummah and SL tamil issue.

Palestine = Eelam

US, Israel = Sinhala army

Muslims = Tamils

P.S: I may come across as a total insensitive jerk but I assure u that I am not. Just stating the facts.. Again, am repeating, killings of Tamils in SL saddens me.

After seeing BJP performance in Assam & WB, I don't think they will get second spot in UP. Anyway is Maya better than mulayam and fool Rahul?
BJP was never big in WB...
Mamata was ex-congress.
Assam:Gagoi: is ruling for 3rd time..and this time anti incumbency votes split between 3 different parties..
we should not compare BJP in WB, TN, KE.
see BJP Performance in Bihar in 2010 Elections. they got nearly 91/105 seats, more than expected.

Surya plays Football without a Ball -SOK



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Are you talking about Marcellus shale?

Also alaska was sold by russia to US. But then i heard that they found many oil reserves there? Is it?

Kannan ayya thanks for that link. Very useful. Our car sold last year is still registered in my father's name. Is it possible to get the new owners to change it? Is there a way to notify the RTO?

Two years back my friend sold his bike unfortunately the the present owner didn't change it to his name. My friend received a call from Police due to an accident. It took him one week to resolve the issue. Take immediate action to prevent these kind of issues.

If reports are to be believed, US could be the largest oil and natural gas producing country by end of 2017 (just because of this ND exploration) and could end the dependency on middle east





I have also heard that even Canada has a lot of reserves in alberta/northern territories which it is stocking up for future. Do you know anything about that?

Will Jaya bat for Stalin to see the back of Vijayakanth?
They point out that Stalin wanted to personally invite Jayalalithaa to the opening of the new Secretariat building during DMK rule but his father prevented it since he felt it would provide an opportunity for Jayalalithaa to meet UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Stalin was also responsible for the odd friendly gesture of the House granting Jayalalithaa permission to stay away from the Assembly for a long period on grounds of ill-health.

http://www.sify.com/news/will-jaya-bat-for-stalin-to-see-the-back-of-vijayakanth-news-columns-mcvu3Sihfcj.html

See Amma supporters, even Jaya is batting for Stalin!!!

See Amma supporters, even Jaya is batting for Stalin!!!
both of them do not want Cap10 to grow..:lol:
Its upto Cap10 to see how he can positionhimself.
If he goes with DMK..he will become another PMK/Commies
TMC got 39 seats in 1996. but it merged again with Cong.. apart from that no 3rd party got more than 25 seats...

^^ Yeah but the girl in pink is not there in the second one :colgate:....

Anyhow the bride entrance has more viewer-ship :colgate:

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Na apdiyae shock ayitaen...:P

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all bank 5 robbers shot dead and booty recovered/../

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article2922641.ece

What kind of government kills people for robbery? Where are the human right activists?

The robbers shot first and the police shot back for self defense..

The robbers shot first and the police shot back for self defense..

From Hindu...how is this possible?

//None of them were also aware of the gunfight. They all slept peacefully and woke up on Thursday morning to find their neighbourhood teeming with police personnel.//

what if these robbers killed the innocent people for looting money..which is far worse..

armed robbers all over the world get killed..just google it..

Largest encounter in terms of fatalities in Tamil Nadu.. Thought more Naxals were killed by Devaram in the eighties..

Once robbers have the arms the benefit of doubt is always in favor of cops..they can't be calling the judges/govt. officials when their life is in danger..

Once robbers have the arms the benefit of doubt is always in favor of cops..they can't be calling the judges/govt. officials when their life is in danger..
Had if they failed we would be seeing posts calling for 'modernization', and comparisons with police forces around the world...

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One more thing two mistakes in job that you have little to do, your boss blasting you and your customer thinks you are useless will you not be little fired up? In that situation one should appreciate if the person acts per rules and forget spirit of game or whatever the hell is it..

From Hindu...how is this possible?

//None of them were also aware of the gunfight. They all slept peacefully and woke up on Thursday morning to find their neighbourhood teeming with police personnel.//

Dunno whether what Hindu reported is true or not..

I saw Sun Tv today where neighbours said they heard the gun shots..

Dunno whether what Hindu reported is true or not..

I saw Sun Tv today where neighbours said they heard the gun shots..
Watching puthiyathalaimurai TV.. they have interviewed neighbours.
lot of person came out after initial shots. Police asked them to go back and switch of their lights..
Entire house is now gardened off. Court magistrate is going to examine the crime scene.
what happened to the money they have looted?

10 lakhs recovered from that house

Changed to 14 lakhs so IOB money recovered..

BTW this is the second major incident involving ex SRM students.. guess police added few in their watch list after the first one...

Had if they failed we would be seeing posts calling for 'modernization', and comparisons with police forces around the world... .

+1 and they wud critised jayalaitha too.

This encounter will be lesson for others to dare such crime. It is high time to all universities to screen students background especially from those state before giving admissions. My relative narrowly escaped unhurt without loosing her chain when young guys in bike attempt to snatch it around 7Pm in Kandanur(Karaikudi). They are college students.

+1 and they wud critised jayalaitha too.

Had caught them alive media would have got news for the next 2 months now only 2 days :ohno:

The police should show the same courage against ruling party politicians and other big shots who has no respect for the law and are corrupt to the core. Can they? or they will continue acting like coolies for the ruling party.

Had caught them alive media would have got news for the next 2 months now only 2 days

A small correction. Media would have given news once in every 2 months if they had been caught alive and when their case is proceeded in court.

I guess that the policemen show their personal anger by killing these kinda people because they make their work load very big by continuous robbing and all (I recently came across some articles in Tamil on the stress faced by police dept people.) Any comments?

The police should show the same courage against ruling party politicians and other big shots who has no respect for the law and are corrupt to the core. Can they? or they will continue acting like coolies for the ruling party.

appuram...they should also shoot common people do drive without license, those who not follow traffic rules, those who do not register their property/land at market price...

politicians panna thappu..atha nama panna thappu illa..

I guess that the policemen show their personal anger by killing these kinda people because they make their work load very big by continuous robbing and all (I recently came across some articles in Tamil on the stress faced by police dept people.) Any comments?

It was neither a personal or stress induced anger. They were planned and encountered to prevent further robbery by other gangs. They would have had the permission from CM office before executing or even before finding them. These kind of cases will make the police job interesting and challenging.

Today, there were hectic parleys in the secretariat wrt the shoot out.

Not all the real info has been published.

Fantastic efforts by TN Cops. But they also need to be more planned - intelli wise.

Future similar ops have to be prevented. This shoot out has shut a few avenues.

They have to be more careful next time.

A good Article in Tamil

எல்லாம் ஒரு நாள் முடியும்!


இது வரை படித்த பாடங்கள் எல்லாம் வெற்றிகரமாகவும், சிறப்பாகவும் வாழ வழி காட்டுபவை. நிறைவாகவும், மகிழ்ச்சியாகவும் வாழக் கற்றுக் கொடுப்பவை. இந்த பாடங்களைப் புரிந்து கொள்வது சுலபம். ஆனால் இவற்றை வாழ்ந்து காட்டுவது சுலபமல்ல. பெரும்பாலானோரும் சில பாடங்களில் தேர்ச்சி பெற்று விடுகிறோம். சிலவற்றிலோ பற்பல முறைகள் சறுக்கி விடுகிறோம். எல்லாவற்றிலும் தேர்ச்சி பெற்று சிறப்பு பெறுவது யதார்த்த உலகில் அவ்வளவு எளிதான விஷயமல்ல என்பதை வாழ்ந்து பார்க்கும் போது தான் நமக்குப் புரிகிறது. எல்லாப் பாடங்களையும் கற்று கடைபிடிக்க ஒரு வாழ்நாள் போதுமானதாக இருப்பதில்லை என்பதையும் பலர் உணர்கிறார்கள்.

இந்தக் கடைசி பாடம் வெற்றிகரமான சிறப்பான வாழ்க்கைக்கல்ல. வெற்றியோ, தோல்வியோ, நிறைவான வாழ்க்கையோ, குறைவான வாழ்க்கையோ, மொத்தத்தில் மன அமைதியை உணர வைக்கும் பாடம். அது தான் எல்லாம் ஒரு நாள் முடியும் என்றுணர்வது!

மஹாராஸ்டிர மாநிலத்தில் ஏகநாதர் என்ற ஞானி வாழ்ந்து வந்தார். அவர் முகத்தில் எப்போதும் அமைதியும், புன்னகையும் தவழும். அவரை நீண்ட நாட்களாகக் கவனித்து வந்த ஒரு மனிதருக்கு ஆச்சரியமாக இருந்தது. அவர் பல ஆன்மிகவாதிகளைப் பார்த்திருக்கிறார். ஆனால் இந்த அளவு தொடர்ந்து அமைதியாக இருக்க முடிந்த ஆட்களைப் பார்த்ததில்லை. ஒரு முறை அமைதியாக இருக்க முடிந்த நபர் இன்னொரு முறை அமைதியாக இருப்பதில்லை. இப்படி எதிலேயும் பாதிக்கப்படாமல் தொடர்ந்து அமைதியாக இருக்க முடிவது என்றால் அதில் ஏதோ ரகசியம் அல்லது சூட்சுமம் இருக்க வேண்டும் என்று நினைத்தார்.

ஒரு நாள் அதை அவர் ஏகநாதரிடம் சென்று கேட்டே விட்டார். “சுவாமி உங்களால் எப்படி இப்படி அமைதியாக, எதிலும் பாதிக்கப்படாமல் இருக்க முடிகிறது? இப்படி முடிவதன் ரகசியம் என்ன?”

ஏகநாதர் அவரையே உற்றுப் பார்த்து விட்டு ”நீ உன் கையைக் காட்டு” என்றார்.

அந்த மனிதரும் தன் கையை நீட்டினார்.

அவரது ரேகைகளை ஆராய்ந்த ஏகநாதர் “உனக்கு இன்னும் ஏழு நாட்கள் ஆயுள் தான் பாக்கி இருக்கிறது”

அந்த மனிதருக்கு அதிர்ச்சி. ஏதோ கேட்க வந்து ஏதோ கேட்க நேர்ந்ததே என்று மனம் நொந்தார். ஏகநாதரின் அமைதியின் ரகசியம் தெரிந்து கொள்ளும் ஆர்வத்தை விட அதிகமாய் சுயபச்சாதாபம் அவருக்குள் வந்தது. ஞானிகள் எக்காலத்தையும் அறிய வல்லவர்கள் என்பதால் அவருக்கு ஏகநாதர் சொன்னதில் எந்த சந்தேகமும் இல்லை. அவசரமாக வீட்டுக்குச் சென்றார். மனைவி மக்களிடம் தகவலைச் சொன்னார். குடும்பம் அழுதது. அவரும் வருத்ததில் ஆழ்ந்தார். ஆனால் அழுது புலம்பி எந்தப் பயனும் இல்லை என்பதை உணர்ந்த அந்த மனிதர் வருத்தத்தை எல்லாம் சீக்கிரமே மூட்டை கட்டி வைத்து விட்டு சாவதற்குள் செய்து முடிக்க என்னென்ன செய்ய வேண்டுமோ அதையெல்லாம் செய்ய ஆரம்பித்தார்.

ஏகநாதர் சரியாக ஒரு வாரம் கழித்து அந்த மனிதரை அவர் வீட்டில் சந்தித்தார். அந்த மனிதர் மிகுந்த அமைதியுடன் இருந்தார். ”நான் செய்ய வேண்டியதை எல்லாம் செய்து விட்டு மரணத்திற்காகக் காத்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறேன்.”

ஏகநாதர் சொன்னார். “நீ இப்போது எந்த மனநிலையில் இருக்கிறாயோ அதே மனநிலையில் நான் என்றும் இருக்கிறேன் மகனே. மரணம் வரும், எல்லாம் முடிந்து போகும் என்ற உண்மையை உணர்வதால் கிடைக்கும் அமைதியே அலாதியானது. அதற்குப் பிறகு எதுவும் பெரிய விஷயமாகத் தோன்றுவதில்லை. எதுவும் அதிகமாக பாதிப்பதில்லை. இதைச் சொன்னால் புரியாது, அனுபவத்தில் மட்டுமே உணர முடியும் என்பதற்காகத் தான் நான் உன் கேள்விக்குப் பதிலாக உன்னிடம் ஏழுநாட்கள் மட்டுமே ஆயுள் பாக்கி உள்ளது என்றேன். உண்மையில் உனக்கு தீர்க்காயுள் இருக்கிறது. நீ நீண்ட காலம் வாழ்வாய்” என்று சொல்லி விட்டு வாழ்த்தி விட்டு சென்றார்.

ஏகநாதர் சொன்னது உண்மையே. மரணம் என்னேரமும் வரலாம் என்று தத்துவம் பேசுகிறோமே ஒழிய, அந்த உண்மை நம் அறிவிற்கு எட்டுகிறதே ஒழிய, அது நம் ஆழ்மனதிற்கு எட்டுவதில்லை.

வாழ்ந்த காலத்தில் எப்படி உயர்ந்தோமோ, எப்படி தாழ்ந்தோமோ அதெல்லாம் மரணத்தின் கணக்கில் இல்லை. மரணம் போன்ற சமத்துவவாதியை யாராலும் காண்பதரிது. இருப்பவன்-இல்லாதவன், உயர்ந்தவன்-தாழ்ந்தவன், ஆள்பவன்-ஆண்டி போன்ற பேதங்கள் எல்லாம் மரணத்திடம் இல்லை. எல்லோரையும் அது பேதமின்றி அது கண்டிப்பாக அணுகுகிறது.

அது போல மரணத்தைப் போல மிகப் பெரிய நண்பனையும் காணமுடியாது. நம் தீராத பிரச்னைகள் எல்லாவற்றையும் ஒரே கணத்தில் தீர்த்து விடுகிறது.

ஆதி அந்தம் இல்லாத கால விஸ்தீரணத்தில் நாம் வாழும் காலம் ஒரு புள்ளியளவும் இல்லை. நம் காலமே ஒரு புள்ளியளவும் இல்லை என்கிற போது அந்தக் காலத்தில் வாழும் உயிரினங்கள் அடையாளமென்ன, அந்த கோடானு கோடி உயிரினங்களில் ஒரு இனமான மனித இனத்தின் அடையாளமென்ன, அந்த பலகோடி மனிதர்களில் ஒரு தனி மனிதனின் அடையாளம் என்ன?

இப்படி இருக்கையில் வெற்றி என்ன, தோல்வி என்ன? சாதனை என்ன? வேதனை என்ன? எல்லாம் முடிந்து போய் மிஞ்சுவதென்ன? எதுவும் எத்தனை நாள் நீடிக்க முடியும்? இதில் சாதித்தோம் என்று பெருமைப்பட என்ன இருக்கிறது? நினைத்ததெதுவும் நடக்கவில்லை என்று வேதனைப்பட என்ன இருக்கிறது? இதை வேதாந்தம், தத்துவம் என்று பெயரிட்டு அலட்சியப்படுத்த வேண்டாம். இது பாடங்களிலேயே மிகப்பெரிய பாடம்.

வாழ்க்கையில் உங்களுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்பட்டிருக்கும் பாத்திரத்தை சிறப்பாக வாழுங்கள். செய்வதை எல்லாம் கச்சிதமாகச் செய்யுங்கள். ஆனால் அந்த பாத்திரமாகவே மாறி என்றைக்கும் நிரந்தரமாக இருப்பது போல பாவித்து விடாதீர்கள். நீங்களே நிரந்தரமல்ல என்கிற போது உங்கள் பிரச்சினைகளும் நிரந்தரமல்ல அல்லவா? இருந்த சுவடே இல்லாமல் போகப்போகும் வாழ்க்கையில் வருத்தத்திற்கு என்ன அர்த்தம் இருக்கிறது? வெறுப்பிற்கும், கோபத்திற்கும், பேராசைக்கும், சண்டைகளுக்கும் என்ன அர்த்தம் இருக்கிறது?

நாம் வழிப்போக்கர்கள். அவ்வளவே. வந்தது போலவே இங்கிருந்து ஒருநாள் சென்றும் விடுவோம். அதனால் இங்கு இருக்கும் வரை, முடிந்த வரை எல்லாவற்றையும் முழு மனதோடு செய்யுங்கள். இது வரை சொன்ன பாடங்களைப் படித்துணர்ந்து சரியாகவும் முறையாகவும் வாழும் போது வாழ்க்கை சுலபமாகும், நாமாக விரித்துக் கொண்ட வலைகளில் சிக்கித் தவிக்க நேராது. அது முடிகிறதோ, இல்லையோ அதற்குப் பின் வருவதில் பெரிதாக மன அமைதியிழந்து விடாதீர்கள். ஏனென்றால் எல்லாம் ஒரு நாள் முடியும்!

நன்றி வாசகர்களே. வாழ்ந்து படிக்கும் பாடங்கள் ஏராளமாக இருப்பினும் இந்த அதிமுக்கிய பாடத்தோடு இந்தத் தொடரை முடித்துக் கொள்கிறேன்.


-என்.கணேசன்

Today, there were hectic parleys in the secretariat wrt the shoot out.

Not all the real info has been published.

Fantastic efforts by TN Cops. But they also need to be more planned - intelli wise.

Future similar ops have to be prevented. This shoot out has shut a few avenues.

They have to be more careful next time.

+1. Even private organizations especially banks, gold shops etc needs to implement the required security measures like CCTV and security which would have prevented these type of crimes.

appuram...they should also shoot common people do drive without license, those who not follow traffic rules, those who do not register their property/land at market price...

politicians panna thappu..atha nama panna thappu illa..

They did a good job in this case, but what i meant is they should show the same courage in other areas including punishing those who are corrupt and close to the ruling party and also the signal crossing big shot's vehicle with party flags. I have never seen such incidents here.

It was neither a personal or stress induced anger. They were planned and encountered to prevent further robbery by other gangs. They would have had the permission from CM office before executing or even before finding them. These kind of cases will make the police job interesting and challenging.

+1. For same reason they encountered in coimbatore case as well to prevent such incidents (rape and murder of children) and that was much appreciated by the public.

I guess after that such kind of abducting/rape/murder of children must have reduced considerably if not abolished.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426145_391245780890941_134113386604183_1765591_1923592972_n.jpg

Just for fun :lol:

+1. For same reason they encountered in coimbatore case as well to prevent such incidents (rape and murder of children) and that was much appreciated by the public.

I guess after that such kind of abducting/rape/murder of children must have reduced considerably if not abolished.

But this tecnique wont work with crosss border terrorists who mostly come on a suicide mission. Kasab didnt come with the idea of killing people and go back to Pakistan and have a good life.

I wonder how the migrant workers in TN will see this encounter.

Terrorism is a policy of some (with a sole purpose of killing innocent civilians)..so different ball game..different techniques needs to be followed like in Israel which is surrounded by hostile countries but still very tough to penetrate the security..

+1. For same reason they encountered in coimbatore case as well to prevent such incidents (rape and murder of children) and that was much appreciated by the public.

I guess after that such kind of abducting/rape/murder of children must have reduced considerably if not abolished.

Robbery and rape/murder are NOT same. People in this forum asked for general amnesty for killers and aides invovled in murder citing humanitarian reasons. People question the motives when terrorists are killed and glorify them as martyrs. If that is the case why not apply that logic here, after all it's robbery which is minor offence compared to murders and rapes.

If police had identified the offenders, why didn't they use rubber bullets, tear gas or some other means to paralyze them? What if someone who is not related to the crime is struck on that house (even if he/she knew about the robbery)?

All these questions are based on grey areas in media reporting. Had the police tried all methods to capture them alive and the house-mates fired at the police they I agree and support their action. My post is based on the lack of clarity that surrounds the incident. Media reporting didn't help to add clarity.

few more ambiguity that police has to answer. before pounding on me, I am not saying what police did is wrong. But they definitely owe few explanations.

http://www.savukku.net/home1/1472-2012-02-23-09-16-24.html

சம்பவம் நடந்த வீட்டின் அருகே உள்ள மக்கள், காவல்துறையினர் பெரும் எண்ணிக்கையில் இரவு 10 மணி முதலே அந்த இடத்தைச் சூழ்ந்துள்ளதாகத் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். பத்து மணி முதல் அந்த இடத்தில் குவிந்த போலீசார், அருகாமையில் உள்ள வீட்டில் இருந்தவர்களை வீட்டினுள் செல்லுமாறு அறிவுறுத்தியுள்ளனர். இரவு 12.30 முதல் 1 மணிக்குள் துப்பாக்கிச் சத்தம் கேட்டதாக அப்பகுதி மக்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றனர். திரிபாதி சொல்வது போல வெறும் விசாரணைக்காக அந்த வீட்டுக்கு சென்றவர்கள் இது போல பெருமளவில் ஆயுதங்களோடு சென்றது ஏன் என்பது இயல்பான கேள்வி. கொள்ளையர்கள் வங்கிகளை கொள்ளையடித்தபோது ஆயுதங்கள் வைத்திருந்ததால் காவல்துறையினரும் ஆயுதங்களை எடுத்துச் சென்றனர் என்று சொல்லும் திரிபாதி இத்தனை போலீசார் அங்கே ஏன் சென்றனர் என்பதை விளக்கவில்லை. சாதாரண விசாரணைக்காகத்தான் காவல்துறையினர் அங்கே சென்றார்கள் என்றால், “ஆபரேஷன் டீமின் ஹெட்” என்று அடையாறு துணை ஆணையரை குறிப்பிடுவது ஏன் ? சாதாரண விசாரணையைத்தான் “ஆபரேஷன்” என்று அழைப்பார்களா ? மேலும் சாதாரண விசாரணைக்கு துணை ஆணையரை நள்ளிரவில் அனுப்ப வேண்டிய காரணம் என்ன ?

அருகாமையில் குடியிருந்த பொதுமக்கள் அத்தனை பேரையும் வீட்டுக்குள் செல்லுமாறு இரவு 10 மணியிலிருந்தே காவல்துறையினர் மிரட்டியதிலிருந்தே இது எப்படிப்பட்ட ஒரு மோசமான படுகொலை என்பது தெரிகிறது. என்கவுண்டர் நடந்த உடனே ஒரு பத்திரிக்கையாளரிடம் பேசிய இணை ஆணையர் ஒருவர், இரண்டு காவல் அதிகாரிகளுக்கும் எப்படிக் காயம் ஏற்பட்டது என்று கேட்டதற்கு, அவர்கள் இருவரும் ஜன்னல் வழியாக எட்டிப்பார்த்த போது, உள்ளே இருந்தவர்கள் அரிவாளால் வெட்டியதால் காயம் ஏற்பட்டது என்றார். ஆனால் திரிபாதியோ, காயமடைந்த இரண்டு ஆய்வாளர்களும், கொள்ளையர்கள் துப்பாக்கியால் சுட்டதில் காயம் ஏற்பட்டது என்றார். இது போன்ற போலி என்கவுண்டர்களில் காவல் துறையினருக்கு ஏற்படும் காயம் அத்தனையுமே, வயிற்றிலோ, தோள்பட்டையிலோ தான் ஏற்படுகிறது. இந்தச் சம்பவத்திலும் காயம் ஏற்பட்ட இரண்டு ஆய்வாளர்களுக்கும் தோள்பட்டையிலும், வயிற்றிலும், நெற்றியிலும் காயம் ஏற்பட்டிருக்கிறது. இறந்து போன ஐந்து இளைஞர்களுக்கு மட்டும் நெஞ்சில் குண்டு பாய்ந்திருக்கிறது. இந்த மர்மத்திற்கு காரணம் என்ன என்பதற்கு திரிபாதி விளக்கம் ஏதும் அளிக்கவில்லை.
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இறந்து போன ஐந்து பேரும் கொள்ளையர்கள் என்றே வைத்துக் கொள்ளலாம். அவர்கள் கொள்ளையடிக்கும் போது, எந்தவிதமான வன்முறைச் சம்பவத்திலும் ஈடுபடவில்லை என்பதை பார்க்க வேண்டும். ஆளில்லாத வங்கிகளாகப் பார்த்து 30 லட்ச ரூபாயை கொள்ளையடித்திருக்கிறார்கள். இவர்கள் செய்தது இவ்வளவு பெரிய தவறென்றால், பல கோடி ரூபாய்களை கொள்ளையடித் தவர்கள்தானே நமக்கு ஆட்சியாளர்களாக இருக்கிறார்கள் ? 66.5 கோடியோடு ஒப்பிடும்போது 30 லட்ச ரூபாய் ஒன்றும் பெரிய தொகை இல்லையே

^factually incorrect. I think both times there were armed and both times by gunpoint (is gunpoint/holding bank staff/customer hostage not terrorizing?).

http://expressbuzz.com/states/tamilnadu/bank-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-chennai/365278.html

Maybe they forgot to pay the usual 40% to the ruling party, 30% to the opposition and 20% to cops.

^^ Agreed holding at gunpoint is terrorizing. Had police shot at them at crime scene at that time your arguement is valid. But not now

Few more questions

- There is absolutely no blood on side walls. Is it possible that in a shoot-out walls stays clear of blood? (Refer to the picture from hindu)

- Why two high ranking police officials gave two different accounts of same incident? (one says police got injured from aruval vettu and tripathi says gun shot)

- Also some media says that neighbours said they didn't hear any and some says they did, which is accurate?

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00932/IN23_BANK_932426f.jpg

now who will rent this flat? pavam andha property owner.

now who will rent this flat? pavam andha property owner.

And many good bachelors won't be getting flats for rent that easily :ohno:

Its interesting to find arm chair human right activists pouncing in support of armed robbers. We do not have tasers or even the drdo developed chilli bomb available to counter such threats.. disable the aggressors.

While it will be gravely wrong to have a fake encounter, it will be a perfectly ok scenario to take out armed gunmen, especially after being shot at first. Why should such selfish armed robbers be shown mercy..

We are such a hypocritic nation, one end we talk of mercy and delay the hanging of Ajmal Kasab, who is a proven terrorist just to play fence politics in the name of justice.. on the other hand, the government will release the italian marines from the safehouse after few parleys of talks ...

One common thread be it the rapist or these robbers or Kasab, is lack of resentment.. lack of a change of heart.. they are super motivated by either money or selfish needs at the cost of hurting others or some ideology.. Prison should be a place where a person can become reformed.. not sit and plot..

Hitler was in prison.. Mein Kempf was written... world saw WWII.. Tilak and Gandhi were in.. they wrote commentaries of Gita.. The prison system also the judiciary system is not aimed at reforming.. if proper retribution is the reason for all these, then somewhere law and order need to be restored.. for people cannot live in fear.. also the economy and future can be at stake..

As long as the future bandits are kept at bay due to fear of strong action, it is fine.. but fear cannot be the motivation.. hence the soceity as such as to stand unified... we have to condemn injustice in one voice...

It is always like people who criticize Lord Krishna for inciting Arjuna to war conveniently forget he was first the emissary of peace to a dumbo who was so egotistical,.. Crime needs to be put down with firm hand.. else Government is failing in its duty.. as long as it is done in fair and constitutional means.. and also for future plan to have more advanced tech like tasers etc to take out such rotten scoundrels in a more fair manner..

Whilst, all the hype of recovering the 14 lakhs.. I am wondering what happened to the earlier loot.. If it is the same gang.. how did they dispose the earlier amount.. which means there must be more darkness lurking around.. They are critical to silence not the critics, but to restore total faith.

Maybe they forgot to pay the usual 40% to the ruling party, 30% to the opposition and 20% to cops.

Kabilan, AsaiThambi, Punk Kumar, Welding Kumar, Veermaani all had a long list of crime and support of the ruling party politicians, and they were killed soon after the change of govt.

Were these guys also linked to the previous ruling party or had some other high-end connections? Or is it a warning signal to other new migrant criminal gangs based in TN.

Its interesting to find arm chair human right activists pouncing in support of armed robbers.

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One common thread be it the rapist or these robbers or Kasab, is lack of resentment.. lack of a change of heart.. they are super motivated by either money or selfish needs at the cost of hurting others or some ideology.. Prison should be a place where a person can become reformed.. not sit and plot..



No one supported their action. I am not a human right activists either, and okay if murderors or terrorists are dealt this way. Where I don't agree is murderers, robbers and rapists should be treated on the same platform. Of the ones you mentioned one is less henious and deserve lesser punishment.

While it will be gravely wrong to have a fake encounter, it will be a perfectly ok scenario to take out armed gunmen, especially after being shot at first. Why should such selfish armed robbers be shown mercy..

This is what I am trying to say too. But did the gunshots really happen?

We are such a hypocritic nation, one end we talk of mercy and delay the hanging of Ajmal Kasab, who is a proven terrorist just to play fence politics in the name of justice.. on the other hand, the government will release the italian marines from the safehouse after few parleys of talks ...

+1

Whilst, all the hype of recovering the 14 lakhs.. I am wondering what happened to the earlier loot.. If it is the same gang.. how did they dispose the earlier amount.. which means there must be more darkness lurking around.. They are critical to silence not the critics, but to restore total faith.

What should we do about the politicians and officials who loot in crores? Why not kill them too?

Its interesting to find arm chair human right activists pouncing in support of armed robbers. We do not have tasers or even the drdo developed chilli bomb available to counter such threats.. disable the aggressors.

While it will be gravely wrong to have a fake encounter, it will be a perfectly ok scenario to take out armed gunmen, especially after being shot at first. Why should such selfish armed robbers be shown mercy..

We are such a hypocritic nation, one end we talk of mercy and delay the hanging of Ajmal Kasab, who is a proven terrorist just to play fence politics in the name of justice.. on the other hand, the government will release the italian marines from the safehouse after few parleys of talks ...

One common thread be it the rapist or these robbers or Kasab, is lack of resentment.. lack of a change of heart.. they are super motivated by either money or selfish needs at the cost of hurting others or some ideology.. Prison should be a place where a person can become reformed.. not sit and plot..

Hitler was in prison.. Mein Kempf was written... world saw WWII.. Tilak and Gandhi were in.. they wrote commentaries of Gita.. The prison system also the judiciary system is not aimed at reforming.. if proper retribution is the reason for all these, then somewhere law and order need to be restored.. for people cannot live in fear.. also the economy and future can be at stake..

As long as the future bandits are kept at bay due to fear of strong action, it is fine.. but fear cannot be the motivation.. hence the soceity as such as to stand unified... we have to condemn injustice in one voice...

It is always like people who criticize Lord Krishna for inciting Arjuna to war conveniently forget he was first the emissary of peace to a dumbo who was so egotistical,.. Crime needs to be put down with firm hand.. else Government is failing in its duty.. as long as it is done in fair and constitutional means.. and also for future plan to have more advanced tech like tasers etc to take out such rotten scoundrels in a more fair manner..

Whilst, all the hype of recovering the 14 lakhs.. I am wondering what happened to the earlier loot.. If it is the same gang.. how did they dispose the earlier amount.. which means there must be more darkness lurking around.. They are critical to silence not the critics, but to restore total faith.

Absolutely agree. Robbers think they can do anything if they have arms and get away with it. They tried with the same with cops and failed miserably.

^^ Agreed holding at gunpoint is terrorizing. Had police shot at them at crime scene at that time your arguement is valid. But not now




Appo CBE cops should have shot the criminal at the time of Rape/murder (crime scene) ??

@ KT - first off I didnt direct the comments at you.. it was at those newpaper reports which are now even coming from BBC .. those two minute fame mongering arm chair human rightists.. why can they not defend the rights of the society at large and not these thugs..

Again, all crime are not the same.. I agree.. but my point is, we are very hypocritical.. we follow wierd standards of mercy.. yea.. italian murderers will go scot free.. kasab will hang after he gets grey hair.. rapists will get rigorous imprisonment.. for what..

at the same time.. theft used to be very simple 20-30 years ago.. just imagine.. day light robbery in chennai.. we can call it advancement in one sense.. am not advocating that train bandits be bundled with such armed robbers for instance..

while i agree lots of unanswered questions exist.. crime can only be put down with firm fist.. does the robber show mercy that you are his victim and not shoot .. (may be in this case no killing was involved.. but the potential was still there if things went wrong at the bank)

police must not take justice in their hands... but they must protect the law and order..

@ politicians... hey unless mass awareness comes in... nothing will happen.. if not fixed properly through peaceful means, these corrupt politicians can end up as what happened in the arab spring revolution..

No one supported their action. I am not a human right activists either, and okay if murderors or terrorists are dealt this way. Where I don't agree is murderers, robbers and rapists should be treated on the same platform. Of the ones you mentioned one is less henious and deserve lesser punishment.


Yes and i don't know what the human rights people doing on this.


ரயிலில் இளம் பெண் பாலியல் பலாத்காரம் செய்து கொலை பண்ண படு பாவி ஜெயிலுக்கு போனதுகப்புரம் எப்படி கொளுத்து போய் இருக்கான் பாருயா!

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Yes and i don't know what the human rights people doing on this.



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This is a classic case of gore injustice.. not only to the lady.. but also to the society at large.. If proven 100% guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.. why should such heinous remorseless creatures be fed on taxpayers money.. where is the case for mercy.. i am telling this for no hate for this criminal.. but where is justice in society.. yes.. law of karma will catch up.. but why should he still fed in a cosy prison... for his safety..

Thats why justice has to be served equally to all.. killing this criminal will not bring back the dead lady alive.. so will keeping this criminal alive for 15 years in jail.. make him a saint.. or atleast a decent human being.. who can repent for his mistakes.. ???!!!

Mr. Shyam:

Why do you throw cold water on everything?

Why not just accept the fact that Chennai is great in spite of a myriad of little minds waiting to pull it down?

Ved


Well Said .I also inferred this many times in this thread . if any stats put Chennai on top than Bang,Mum,Hyd ,people waiting to find reasons to make the stat false or contradict that or blame the stat.

JJ is happy..the Police are happy...law abiding citizens like us are happy...over the elimination of these criminals..

Why are savuku and activists like our "me different na?" are worried about the many unanswered questions?

I simply do not mind if Police or any other rebels kill such criminals in day light or in the night...I am very sure,I will never be killed in an encounter.

Yes and i don't know what the human rights people doing on this.



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Entha kai vachukittae settaiya? Atleast in first pic he was feeling remorse. In the second he is happy/smiling :bash:..

Entha kai vachukittae settaiya? Atleast in first pic he was feeling remorse. In the second he is happy/smiling :bash:..
evanugalukku ellam Vivek treatment than better..
மைனர் ..... சுட்டுட்டேன்

Entha kai vachukittae settaiya? Atleast in first pic he was feeling remorse. In the second he is happy/smiling :bash:..

Notable changes in skin tone, hairstyle, dress and physique also :ohno:

JJ is happy..the Police are happy...law abiding citizens like us are happy...over the elimination of these criminals..

Why are savuku and activists like our "me different na?" are worried about the many unanswered questions?

I simply do not mind if Police or any other rebels kill such criminals in day light or in the night...I am very sure,I will never be killed in an encounter.

These people themselves publish factual errors and question that different cops told different version instead of going with commissioner's statement.

Any updates on sasikala's court appearance today? she just answered 60 questions..900 questions to go.. and then Ilavarisi, Sudakaran(?) needs to be questioned, final judegement.
Apr 2012 Govt kavurathu pola irukke?

Were these guys also linked to the previous ruling party or had some other high-end connections? Or is it a warning signal to other new migrant criminal gangs based in TN.

The point being they may simply be unaligned criminals. I am sure you are fully aware that had they been aligned with AIADMK, they would have never been shot!

While we may have temporary pleasure that alleged "criminals" are dead, its a slippery slope from here on when police determines who is guilty and who gets the bullet.

JJ is happy..the Police are happy...law abiding citizens like us are happy...over the elimination of these criminals..

Why are savuku and activists like our "me different na?" are worried about the many unanswered questions?

I simply do not mind if Police or any other rebels kill such criminals in day light or in the night...I am very sure,I will never be killed in an encounter.

This is how "me same na?" reacted to a terror attack earlier. Why me same na changed to me different na now? Why is he na (not) happy with the fact that these kind of robbery happens only once in a while as it is not a everyday affair?

Was he scared about being encountered then?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83610050&postcount=7141

Within next two weeks,Delhi Police will arrest few men from UP and build a story line around them, keeping the Media very busy.Enter October, every thing will be a past, and life will go on smoothly till something recurs!

But,I believe. terror attack in India can not be prevented as they can choose the place,day and time . With such a mixed population and every one angry with someone or other, we should be happy, attacks happen once in a while and not a every day affair.

Pl don't bring in the case of USA like many.. There are very valid reasons for their success.

The point being they may simply be unaligned criminals. I am sure you are fully aware that had they been aligned with AIADMK, they would have never been shot!

While we may have temporary pleasure that alleged "criminals" are dead, its a slippery slope from here on when police determines who is guilty and who gets the bullet.

Its never a pleasure to see someone gets killed. I don't think cops will go this route forever.

This is just a deterrent for such future happenings.

^^ Oh I am sorry for not being a Santa Claus and having a sense of reality. I neither jump up and down like I am on crack when there is a favourable stat nor whine when some unfavourable report comes up. Also,I am not an insecure idiot who wants skewed stats to reassure me every day.

Chennai is high up on that list largely because of the number of Tamil diaspora from Srilanka and other countries visiting Chennai for cultural and business purpose. It is not my fault if you cant handle the facts. So stop being judgmental and go get a life.

This is how "me same na?" reacted to a terror attack earlier. Why me same na changed to me different na now? Why is he na (not) happy with the fact that these kind of robbery happens only once in a while as it is not a everyday affair?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83610050&postcount=7141

நெத்தி அடி KT இப்ப புரியுது இவனுங்க ஏன் ரவுண்டு கட்டுரனுவன்னு. i cannot resist posting this after watchin the forum for last few days. remember you asked whatz the urge for few to pee on posts? ever heard of dog & electric post syndrome? dog peeing on electirc post is not fault of post.

ஒரு நாள் இல்ல ஒரு நாள் மழையில போஸ்ட் கம்பி அறுந்து விழுந்தா அன்னிக்கு இருக்குடி. excuse me 4 any tamil typo, I am still practising tamil typing

excuse me 4 any tamil typo, I am still practising tamil typing

polachi po (excused) :lol:

ஒரு நாள் இல்ல ஒரு நாள் மழையில போஸ்ட் கம்பி அறுந்து விழுந்தா அன்னிக்கு இருக்குடி.
அண்ணா! நீங்க கொங்சம் அடக்கி வாசிச்சுருக்கலாம். ரொம்ப உணர்ச்சி வசப்படரீங்க!
KT-ye இன்னிக்கு நேத்தா round கட்டறாங்க! Its for many days. அவரும் வலிக்காத மாதிரியே நடிக்கறாரு.

^^+1

HP you didn't have to do that. It will make us appear like we are doing the same thing that we are fighting against (groupism).

PS> hotpotato and I work for same client. adhu than konjam unarchi vasa pattutaaru :)

^^+1

HP you didn't have to do that. It will make us appear like we are doing the same thing that we are fighting against (groupism).

PS> hotpotato and I work for same client. adhu than konjam unarchi vasa pattutaaru :)

rendu perum ore client.. groupism illenu solrenga ;)

@Krishnaswamy.. just imagine arattai arangam without KT for 1 week.. I bet you will be the first to petition him to come back.. hehe..

அனுப்புனர்,
http://us.f394.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1728064%5fAAzvXkIAAPlGT0YZtQGt5lVjVjM&pid=1.2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeoCL
தமிழ்நாட்டு மக்களின் சார்பில் (புன்னகை)
பெறுனர்,

http://www.newsreporter.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Jeyalalitha1.jpg

மாண்புமிகு முதல் அமைச்சர்,
தமிழ்நாடு அரசு.

மதிப்பிற்குரிய தமிழக முதல் அமைச்சர் அவர்களுக்கு,

மிக அருமையாக ஆட்சி நடத்தி வரும் உங்களுக்கு முதலில் எனது நன்றிகளைத் தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறேன். உங்கள் நற்பணி மென்மேலும் சிறக்க வாழ்த்த வயதில்லை ஆகவே வணங்குகிறேன்... நீங்கள் கொடுப்பதாக அறிவித்திருந்த மிக்சி, கிரைண்டர், லேப்டாப் , பசு மாடு மற்றும் அரிசி இது போன்ற இன்னும் பல அத்தியாவசியப் பொருட்கள் எல்லாம் இலவசமாக வழங்கும் திட்டம் மக்கள் இடையே மிகுந்த வரவேற்பைப் பெற்றுள்ளது...ஆனால் ஒரு சின்ன நிபந்தனை இதில் எங்களுக்கு எதுவுமே தேவையில்லை இதற்குப் பதிலாக.....
http://www.indiaprwire.com/downloads/photo/201008/15932.jpg

வீட்டிற்கு ஒரு UPS கொடுப்பதாய் அறிவித்தால் எம்மக்கள் சந்தோசத்தின் உச்சத்திற்கே சென்றிடுவார்கள்.
24 மணிநேரத்தில் பாதி நேரம் மின்சாரம் இல்லாமல் திண்டாடும் என் தமிழ்த் தாயக மக்கள் கொஞ்சம் பிழைத்துக் கொள்ளட்டும்...
http://us.f394.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1728064%5fAAzvXkIAAPlGT0YZtQGt5lVjVjM&pid=1.2.4&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeoCL
http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/03/images/2005110315690501.jpg

என்போன்று வேற்று மாநிலத்திலும் நாடுகளிலும் வசிக்கும் நண்பர்கள் தம் சொந்தத் தாய்மண்ணிற்கு செல்வதற்கு 1 வாரத்திற்கு முன்பும் பின்பும் சந்தோசத்தில் தூக்கம் வராமல் தவிப்பார்கள், ஆனால் இப்போது தமிழகம் சென்ற பிறகும் நிம்மதியாகத் தூங்க முடிவதில்லை...

என்ன கொடுமை சார் இது ....
http://us.f394.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f1728064%5fAAzvXkIAAPlGT0YZtQGt5lVjVjM&pid=1.2.5&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeoCL


மின்சாரம் இருக்கிறதில்லை இந்த லட்சணத்துல மிக்சி, கிரைண்டர்,
லேப்டாப் எல்லாத்தையும் வச்சி கூழ்ப்பானைல காய்ச்சியா குடிக்க முடியும்?
http://i44.tinypic.com/2isxt2b.jpg
படித்ததோட நிறுத்திக்காம உங்களுக்கு தெரிஞ்சவங்க, தெரியாதவங்க
நம்மள மாதிரி பாதிக்கப்பட்டவங்க ஒருத்தர் விடாம எல்லாருக்கும் அனுப்பிடுங்க..

http://www.tubetamil.com/watch-daily-tamil-news-online/news-23-02-2012.html

First news : Encounter in Velachery

Second news : Attmepted Bank robbery in Madurai and Radhapuram

Third news: North indian migrants suspected in the theft of 45kg gold and 2kg diamond from Joy Alukkas store.

(first 14 seconds is for comic relief i think)

Normally, When JJ comes into power, law & order will be good..
but this time, too many looting incidents...
is that because she is not allowing his party members to loot money this time? :lol: :lol:

+1

HP you didn't have to do that. It will make us appear like we are doing the same thing that we are fighting against (groupism).

PS> hotpotato and I work for same client. adhu than konjam unarchi vasa pattutaaru


KT neenga sonna correct'a than irukkum. It only appears like groupism and peeing on lamp posts and not real groupism or actual peeing itself as others do. enna unga oor karavangalukku unarchi irukku athanala unarchi vasa padalam mathavangalukku illa entha unarchiyum.

@Krishnaswamy.. just imagine arattai arangam without KT for 1 week.. I bet you will be the first to petition him to come back.. hehe..
கரெக்டா சொன்னீங்க! ஒரு வாசகம் சொன்னாலும் திருவாசகம் ஐயா!
KT மட்டும் அல்ல! Arul-m தான். இரண்டு பேரும் இருந்தா தான் கச்சேரி களை கட்டும்.
have f(b)un!..

as usual, M.K playing "Brahmin" caste politics.. when Raja was arrested, he told Raja was Dalit, that is why he is arrested...
He is the nut and curse in present Day's TN Politics.
somebody can clarify me..
did ever Kamraj, Anna,M.G.R, opened their voice so badly against Brahmins?
பார்ப்பனக் கூட்டம் நடுங்க வேண்டும்!': கருணாநிதி உருக்கமான வேண்டுகோள் (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=412586)
சென்னை: "உங்கள் உற்றார், உறவினர், பந்து மித்திரர், தோழர், தோழியருக்கெல்லாம் சொல்லி, விளக்கி, கட்சியில் அங்கத்தினராகச் சேருங்கள். கட்சிப் பத்திரிகைகளைப் படியுங்கள். நம் பத்திரிகைகள் வளர்ந்தால் தான், நம் எதிர்க்கட்சியான பார்ப்பனக் கூட்டம் நடுங்கும்' என, தி.மு.க., தலைவர் கருணாநிதி அறிவுறுத்தி உள்ளார்.

KT neenga sonna correct'a than irukkum. It only appears like groupism and peeing on lamp posts and not real groupism or actual peeing itself as others do. enna unga oor karavangalukku unarchi irukku athanala unarchi vasa padalam mathavangalukku illa entha unarchiyum.

நான் சொன்னா சரியா இருக்கும்னு எல்லாம் யோசிக்க வேண்டாம் பாஸு, இவன் சொன்னா ஒரு வேளை சரியா இருக்குமோனு யோசிச்சாலே போதும். அப்படி யோசிச்சாலே எதிர்க்கணும்னு முடிவு பண்ணிடாலும் கருத்த தான் எதிர்பீங்களே ஒழிய கழுத்த குறி வெக்க மாட்டீங்க (ஹிஹி பர்சனல் attacks இருக்காதுன்னு சொல்ல வந்தேன் )

Anyways to answer your question, yes it can be called as "appears" only (yet) because

- It is not repeated
- It is not encouraged (I immediately asked to stop)
- It is not silently watched
- No pattern set yet
- No particular person targeted or picked upon yet

adhu seri oru postukkae ippadi unarchi pathi ellam pesureengalae, ennikachum ovvoru postukkum pannuratha pathi yosichirukeengala? :)

நான் சொன்னா சரியா இருக்கும்னு எல்லாம் யோசிக்க வேண்டாம் பாஸு, இவன் சொன்னா ஒரு வேளை சரியா இருக்குமோனு யோசிச்சாலே போதும். அப்படி யோசிச்சாலே எதிர்க்கணும்னு முடிவு பண்ணிடாலும் கருத்த தான் எதிர்பீங்களே ஒழிய கழுத்த குறி வெக்க மாட்டீங்க (ஹிஹி பர்சனல் attacks இருக்காதுன்னு சொல்ல வந்தேன் )

Anyways to answer your question, yes it can be called as "appears" only (yet) because

- It is not repeated
- It is not encouraged (I immediately asked to stop)
- It is not silently watched
- No pattern set yet
- No particular person targeted or picked upon yet

adhu seri oru postukkae ippadi unarchi pathi ellam pesureengalae, ennikachum ovvoru postukkum pannuratha pathi yosichirukeengala? :)

This is not the only post KT, you are fueling it by keep harping on me vs them. Not sure what you gain by creating more and more enemies.

This is not the only post KT, you are fueling it by keep harping on me vs them. Not sure what you gain by creating more and more enemies.

So what you want me to do? Sit idle and take abuses? I am taking it so far. I am stating it again, I have no problem when someone opposes my POV and harsh on my views, but I have a problem when it gets personal. I have a problem when you gang up. Few folks from selected group gets personal and gangs up(IR thread from today for most recent example). It is the same group doing repeatedly. Not only with me. Part of the same group also used to throw monkey wrench at madurai and bangalore threads

Are you really reading the posts by selected few here and still think that group ism here is something I am imagining in my mind?

^^^^

ayyayooo.... groupism.... boss ungal bashayila veli nattu sathi... athaane :lol:

@vicin86:

Read this one from dinamani

http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Editorial&artid=557340&SectionID=132&MainSectionID=132&SEO=&Title=

......................................................"கூடங்குளம் இன்று குழம்பிய குளமாக இருக்கிறது. அரசியல்வாதிகளும் போராட்டக்காரர்களும் தங்கள் ஆதாயத்துக்காக அந்தக் குளத்தில் மீன்பிடித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள்' என்று பொதுமக்கள் பரவலாகப் பேசத் தொடங்கிவிட்டனர். குழம்பிய குளம் விரைவில் தெளிந்த குளமாக வேண்டும். பிரச்னையை நீடிக்காமல் உடனே தீர்வுகாண வேண்டும் என்பதே மக்களின் எதிர்பார்ப்பு. மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகள் இதைக் கவனத்தில்கொண்டு செயல்பட வேண்டும்................................

So what you want me to do? Sit idle and take abuses? I am taking it so far. I am stating it again, I have no problem when someone opposes my POV and harsh on my views, but I have a problem when it gets personal. I have a problem when you gang up. Few folks from selected group gets personal and gangs up(IR thread from today for most recent example). It is the same group doing repeatedly. Not only with me. Part of the same group also used to throw monkey wrench at madurai and bangalore threads

Are you really reading the posts by selected few here and still think that group ism here is something I am imagining in my mind?

I'm not asking anyone to give (or) take abuses; Just trying to figure out how to get out of this never ending loop of group clashes before it becomes gang warfare.

as usual, M.K playing "Brahmin" caste politics.. when Raja was arrested, he told Raja was Dalit, that is why he is arrested...
He is the nut and curse in present Day's TN Politics.
somebody can clarify me..
did ever Kamraj, Anna,M.G.R, opened their voice so badly against Brahmins?
பார்ப்பனக் கூட்டம் நடுங்க வேண்டும்!': கருணாநிதி உருக்கமான வேண்டுகோள் (http://www.dinamalar.com/News_Detail.asp?Id=412586)
சென்னை: "உங்கள் உற்றார், உறவினர், பந்து மித்திரர், தோழர், தோழியருக்கெல்லாம் சொல்லி, விளக்கி, கட்சியில் அங்கத்தினராகச் சேருங்கள். கட்சிப் பத்திரிகைகளைப் படியுங்கள். நம் பத்திரிகைகள் வளர்ந்தால் தான், நம் எதிர்க்கட்சியான பார்ப்பனக் கூட்டம் நடுங்கும்' என, தி.மு.க., தலைவர் கருணாநிதி அறிவுறுத்தி உள்ளார்.

His last effort to retain remaining DMK thondars!! vere enna pannamudiyum avarala
ozhunga katchiya stalin kitta kuduthutu kathai ezhuthapola,

Surya plays Football without a Ball -SOK



LaSJFKQgWQE

Enga college ground! Also during the shooting, the gallery structure coming in Munbe Vaa song fell down and they had to build it again.

We all know that this is a staged encounter. All were in a single room apartment. They could have been smoked out and arrested. They have not killed or hurt anybody in the 2 robberies. The day you give police powers to determine guilt or not, use deadly force when not needed etc. it is very dangerous. We know the quality of our commissioners and how they get their posting. No need to say any more.

@vicin86:

Read this one from dinamani

http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Editorial&artid=557340&SectionID=132&MainSectionID=132&SEO=&Title=

......................................................"கூடங்குளம் இன்று குழம்பிய குளமாக இருக்கிறது. அரசியல்வாதிகளும் போராட்டக்காரர்களும் தங்கள் ஆதாயத்துக்காக அந்தக் குளத்தில் மீன்பிடித்துக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள்' என்று பொதுமக்கள் பரவலாகப் பேசத் தொடங்கிவிட்டனர். குழம்பிய குளம் விரைவில் தெளிந்த குளமாக வேண்டும். பிரச்னையை நீடிக்காமல் உடனே தீர்வுகாண வேண்டும் என்பதே மக்களின் எதிர்பார்ப்பு. மத்திய, மாநில அரசுகள் இதைக் கவனத்தில்கொண்டு செயல்பட வேண்டும்................................

10 mani nera powercut panra velai ithu, There is one awesome Tamil proverb that explains this situation. But their cartoons and editorials had no factual info which cannot be absolved by posts blaming central govt not doing enough..

We all know that this is a staged encounter. All were in a single room apartment. They could have been smoked out and arrested. They have not killed or hurt anybody in the 2 robberies. The day you give police powers to determine guilt or not, use deadly force when not needed etc. it is very dangerous. We know the quality of our commissioners and how they get their posting. No need to say any more.
i think there might be some other reasons on security... lot of times, both CG and SG will close those files like this only...
Else by this time, Cong home ministry or DMK would have opened their bad mouth..

like how they have put some "junk" case against Mannargudi mafia to enquire about Container...

NRI's Pl excuse or reflect upon!!!

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5772/kalam.jpg

repost from chaibar.

We all know that this is a staged encounter. All were in a single room apartment. They could have been smoked out and arrested. They have not killed or hurt anybody in the 2 robberies. The day you give police powers to determine guilt or not, use deadly force when not needed etc. it is very dangerous. We know the quality of our commissioners and how they get their posting. No need to say any more.

Chennai Bank Robbery Case : Engineering college dropout among those killed (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Engineering-college-dropout-among-those-killed/articleshow/12012666.cms)


CHENNAI: Vinod Kumar, one of the five suspects killed on Thursday, was a dropout of an engineering college in the city's suburbs. Kumar, caught doing a recce in a CCTV grab, was involved in sourcing students from the northern states for a commission from private colleges.

On Thursday, as students of colleges in Potheri and Kattankulathur gathered around tea shops and eateries, speaking about the encounter, Vinod Kumar was remembered as "a quarrelsome guy, who was fond of money."

Some students said they knew Vinod Kumar as a brash man who wielded tremendous clout. "He was feared in this area, where hundreds of students resided. These gangs used to settle personal scores, whether it was related to admissions or love affairs," said Akhil Gupta (name changed), owner of a dhaba in the area.

"They lived the high life, flew down expensive call girls from Mumbai and Bangalore and zipped around in flashy cars that they hired on a daily basis. Every other day there was a brawl near the entrance of the SRM University campus. The boys' hostel and the residences of students, if checked, would yield a major cache of drugs and arms," said Gupta.

Autorickshaw drivers in the area who saw the television grab of Vinod Kumar said, "He was a frequent visitor to a posh apartment complex in Potheri, where he and his friends used to drink and party."

Another shopkeeper, who did not wish to be identified, said, "It was surprising that students had so much money to blow up every day. Now people know where that money came from. Crime has never paid and I hope this incident will open the eyes of other youngsters.''

The source of this income, students say, is the admissions racket that yields around Rs 50,000 or more for every student these "agents" bring from their states. In many cases, it is a percentage of the money (fees plus donation) paid by a student to the college. It can be as high as 10%. Since so much money is involved, many "gangs" have sprung up and frequent clashes break out among them, other students said.

Vinod, dhaba owner Gupta said, had once brandished a weapon in a fight between two gangs - one from UP and the other from Bihar. Other residents of the suburbs, including Guduvanchery and Maraimalainagar, where a large of number of these students reside said it was time police kept tabs on these students.

"Five of them get together and rent a house for Rs 20,000. The owner has no clue about them. The real estate brokers are to be blamed as they jack up the rents for their benefit and crooks become tenants in the neighbourhood," said Salim Pervez, a resident of Potheri.


This guys seems to be a 100% Anti-Social ... a potential dada, rowdy politican in the making......i suppose 'rudely' cut short with a literal nethi-addi kunguma-pottu shot from a Chennai Police inspector.

Would be interesting to know who his Father in Bihar is and whether he has any brothers. That might give a better understanding of this guy.

NRI's Pl excuse or reflect upon!!!

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5772/kalam.jpg

repost from chaibar.

correct'a solli irukaaru, thats why we see people falling for people like Anna Hazare, Lok Paritran guys, Sarathbabu to clean the system.

I donno if he really said that, but he cud have be avoided using the word rape.

THis is not in Marina......

http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/NEWS/jayalalithalifeinpics/ammabirthdaynew.jpg

THis is not in Marina......



It was done at Puri beach

correct'a solli irukaaru, thats why we see people falling for people like Anna Hazare, Lok Paritran guys, Sarathbabu to clean the system.

I donno if he really said that, but he cud have be avoided using the word rape.

I guess even he got disheartened by seeing everything that is going on around and out of depression he uttered the word. It is hard to control but yes, the visionary could have avoided.

Does have this photo in his facebook..

http://i39.tinypic.com/34gq0oy.jpg

It was done at Puri beach

Some Naveen Patnaayak of Orissa? The one well versed in sand art?

Some Naveen Patnaayak of Orissa? The one well versed in sand art?


by students of Sudarshan Sand Art institute, set up by noted sand artist Sudarshan Patnaik.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/jayalalithaa-at-64-she-is-the-voice-of-indian-federalism-224201.html

The central govt needs some serious clipping of the wings. It should forego the central sales tax to start with and give up income tax too in favour of the states.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/jayalalithaa-at-64-she-is-the-voice-of-indian-federalism-224201.html

The central govt needs some serious clipping of the wings. It should forego the central sales tax to start with and give up income tax too in favour of the states.

TN has not received its dues from Planning Commission

The Allocation was Rs. 23000 Cr (for Fin Year 2011-12

TN have received only Rs. 5000 cr for this fin year and we are already in Feb'12 End and only one more month to go.

Arm Twisting :bash:

TN has not received its dues from Planning Commission

The Allocation was Rs. 23000 Cr (for Fin Year 2011-12

TN have received only Rs. 5000 cr for this fin year and we are already in Feb'12 End and only one more month to go.

Arm Twisting :bash:

Can TN Govt not go to court?

News from That's tamil site. Surprise to see Manmohan Singh talking like a Man:

கூடங்குளம் போராட்டத்திற்கு அமெரிக்க என்.ஜி.ஓ.க்களே காரணம்: மன்மோகன் சிங்
வெள்ளிக்கிழமை, பிப்ரவரி 24, 2012, 15:49 [IST]


டெல்லி: அமெரிக்காவைச் சேர்ந்த சில என்.ஜி.ஓ.க்கள் தான் கூடங்குளம் அணுமின் நிலையத்தை திறக்க இடையூறு செய்து வருவதாக பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங் குற்றம் சாட்டியுள்ளார்.

கூடங்குளத்தில் ரஷ்யா உதவியுடன் அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள அணுமின் நிலையத்தை செயல்படவிடாமல் அப்பகுதி மக்கள் தொடர் போராட்டம் நடத்தி வருகின்றனர். அணுமின் நிலையத்தை மூடும் வரை போராட்டம் ஓயாது என்றும் தெரிவித்துள்ளனர். இந்நிலையில் போராட்டக்காரர்களுக்கு வெளிநாடுகளில் இருந்து பணம் வருவதாக குற்றச்சாட்டு எழுந்தது. அதை போராட்டக்குழு தலைவர் உதயகுமார் மறுத்தார். இந்நிலையில் அமெரிக்காவைச் சேர்ந்த சில என்.ஜி.ஓ.க்கள் தான் கூடங்குளம் அணுமின் நிலையத்தை திறக்க இடையூறு செய்து வருவதாக பிரதமர் மன்மோகன் சிங் குற்றம் சாட்டியுள்ளார்.

இது குறித்து அவர் அமெரிக்க பத்திரிக்கையான சயின்ஸுக்கு கூறியதாவது,

அமெரிக்காவைச் சேர்ந்த சில என்.ஜி.ஓ.க்கள் தான் கூடங்குளம் அணுமின் நிலையத்தை திறக்க இடையூறாக உள்ளன. இந்தியாவில் மின் உற்பத்தி அதிகரிப்பதை அவை விரும்பவில்லை. சிந்தித்து செய்ல்படும் மக்கள் அனைவரும் அணு சக்திக்கு ஆதரவாக உள்ளனர். விஞ்ஞானிகளை சும்மா உட்கார வைக்க முடியாது. அவர்கள் பல மாதங்களாக வேலையின்றி இருக்கின்றனர்.

அமெரிக்கா மற்றும் ஸ்கான்டினேவியன் நாடுகளைச் சேர்ந்த என்.ஜி.ஓ.க்களுக்கு இந்தியாவின் வளர்ச்சி பிடிக்கவில்லை என்றார்.

Can TN Govt not go to court?

The problem is that CG can cite 1000s of silly reasons like some report not filed or not complete.

JJ's PR with CG also is not very good. Thatha was an expert and he followed a policy of offering a cut for this also. :lol:

SGs in India are totally dependent on CG's alms and CG is forcing TN Govt to be dependent on TASMAC income more. :bash:

GJ is able to prosper in spite of much worse treatment (& without TASMAC income also) since they are cash surplus; do not have freebies culture; all services are charged & taxed; Siphoning & pilferage much less; long term sustainable plans etc.

JJ has to learn a few tricks to deal with CG.

News from That's tamil site. Surprise to see Manmohan Singh talking like a Man:



Are you serious ?

If he is a man, he should blame those who funded / are funding the NGOs. But that will hit finally somebody nearer to him.

He is a small pawn in the hands of world biggies. :bash:

Are you serious ?

If he is a man, he should blame those who funded / are funding the NGOs. But that will hit finally somebody nearer to him.

He is a small pawn in the hands of world biggies. :bash:

Well... When Jaya didn't utter a word against them, I think MMS saying this much is a big thing for me.

Well... When Jaya didn't utter a word against them, I think MMS saying this much is a big thing for me.

US used NGOs & IM to scuttle Russians. CG used MP Dam issue to scuttle JJ. JJ used KK issue to scuttle CG on MP.

(Please note: CG is different from UPA ... err.. S...G...)

Nobody has the countries welfare in mind. :bash:

^^

Row over Manmohan’s anti-Kundankulam funding remark

Even as PMANE, the principal body against the nuclear power plant cries foul in the Prime Minister’s claim, Minister V. Narayanaswamy has a Home Ministry inquiry report to back the claim

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s charge that foreign NGOs were stoking protests at the Kudankulam nuclear plant triggered a row, with the Home Ministry endorsing the claim and activists spearheading the stir dismissing it as “baseless”. BJP demanded that facts on the “very important” statement by Dr. Singh be made public.

The statement by Dr. Singh was endorsed by Congress which said it was given on the basis of the reports given by the intelligence agencies. “Party supports his statement”, Congress spokesman Rashid Alvi said in New Delhi.

“Foreign NGOs behind protests”

Minister for State in the PMO V. Narayanasamy said three NGOs were found to be diverting foreign funds for the anti-nuclear campaign in Kudankulam and their licences cancelled.

The cancellation followed a Home Ministry inquiry that the NGOs were using funds meant for social causes to fuel the protests, he said.

Mr. Narayanasamy said the government had taken action after it found that some NGOs, receiving funds from the U.S. and Scandinavian countries, were spending huge amounts of money on the agitation.

“These NGOs were receiving funds from foreign countries for social service causes like helping the physically handicapped and eradication of leprosy but these were used for anti-nuclear protests,” he told PTI.

“In fact, the people who are agitating near the plant have been continuing their agitation for the past three months. People are being brought there in trucks from various villages, they are being given food,” he claimed.

Mr. Narayanasamy said three NGOs were found to be violating the FCRA guidelines by not using the funds for the cause they were received for.

He said the Prime Minister’s observation on anti-nuclear activists using foreign funds came from the inquiry.

Cont....

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2928785.ece?mod=igoogle_news_gadget

^^

Prove your charge or quit: Kudankulam activist to PM

nti-nuclear activist Uday Kumar on Friday criticised Prime Minister Manmohan Singh over the his statement that the NGOs based in the United States are fuelling the Kudankulam nuclear plant protests, and asked the Prime Minister either to prove the charge or step down.

"The Prime Minister should take back his statement. If the Prime Minister can't prove his charge then he should step down. The Prime Minister is not an elected PM but a nominated one, that's why he is insulting the people of India," said Kumar.

"It is nonsense to say that NGO's from the US and Scandinavian countries are funding the Kudankulam protest," he said.

"The Prime Minister, who is the head of the country, can't make such remarks. He has no sympathy. Lakhs of people are struggling and instead of acknowledging, he is accusing us of receiving money. We are not receiving money from any NGO," said Kumar.

"His ministerial colleague Narayansamy said the same thing. Why can't he produce some evidence to prove his charge? The Prime Minister insults the people of the country," said the activist.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/prove-your--charge-or-quit-kudankulam-activist-to-pm/233367-3.html

:wtf:

:down:

Avanga PM kitta " Neenga Nejamana Ambilayana nu proof Pannunga" nnu demand pannina, avar enna pannvuru, Paavam. :lol:

Union Finance Ministry has the full dossiers on them and they can be taken to task, if Annai allows (Which is unlikely).

As I had mentioned earlier, the route has been Bible Society and the like, hiding the funds as religious.

Post the findings, the chiefs of the churches have stopped helping directly.

But the local Mineral Mafia man took over for his own nefarious designs. SG did not take action against his activities till recently and now things seem to have come to a conclusion.

Let us all hope that the Generation of Power starts early.

I agree with Uday Kumar on this one.

TN has not received its dues from Planning Commission

The Allocation was Rs. 23000 Cr (for Fin Year 2011-12

TN have received only Rs. 5000 cr for this fin year and we are already in Feb'12 End and only one more month to go.

Arm Twisting :bash:

Sad.. such things were happening for a long time.. I hate to think like victim mentality.. but.. one more case of CG treating TN differently to say the least.., especially when their fave party is not at SG

Is there a website (CG planning commission) that can provide the details such as how much is alloted, how much is released, status (pending such and such document) etc..

State Govt.'s should force CG to make the details public and transparent..

Just bcos coalition party is not ruling in the state, this kind of withholding is not fair.

Can State govt. file a RTI against CG on this?

Are you serious ?

If he is a man, he should blame those who funded / are funding the NGOs. But that will hit finally somebody nearer to him.

He is a small pawn in the hands of world biggies. :bash:

Just as an indirect proof of where money is coming from..

In 200-year tradition, most Christian missionaries are American (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/20/us-missionary-massachusetts-idUSTRE81J0ZD20120220)

Time for another Vivekananda to arise to share the real wisdom