# Topped Out / Condor / 88m / Residential

[Aussie Andrew]

Thought Id beat Chrisaus to start the thread :-)

25 levels, located on St Georges Tce, opposite the Governors building. This is going to have a great effect on the skyline to the East! Check the West today.

Cant be bothered scanning the rendering, but im sure someone will. Nice slender tower I think.

[NZer]

What is the Governors building?
Where do you mean?

[Dilaz89]

its replacing 22 st georges terrace! its on the site of 2 run down bldgs!

[Dilaz89]

Originally posted by Aussie Andrew
Thought Id beat Chrisaus to start the thread :-)

25 levels, located on St Georges Tce, opposite the Governors building. This is going to have a great effect on the skyline to the East! Check the West today.

Cant be bothered scanning the rendering, but im sure someone will. Nice slender tower I think.
please scan the rendering!

[23knots]

Get down to the display centre today and tomorrow 11am-6pm at level 17, 26 St g's T.

Prices from $195,000 - affordable inner city housing at last! Should shake these greedy developers up a bit (*cough* Westpoint).

[perthwa]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p8f32da71e5fff4e96a8556150fa2f62c/fa8f83ea.jpg

[perthwa]

some points
-from the pic looks like only the front tower the article said they were planning a 9 level one facing hay street?
-they will need to go back to council again to approve the changes
-they said 80% of the units had pre sold in that article
-its says completion early 2007 so construction wouldn't start for some time

this is a great project will really help push the skyline east and bring abit of style to that shabby area esp with the new law courts.

[Homeroids]

Wow, awesome news. This is like opposite the Duxton/Perth Concert Hall? The building next to the vacant lot has had like 3 fires or something. Something fishy happening there I think.

[NZer]

Looks pretty sweet,the back of it doesn't look much lower than 9 levels in that pic.

[Dilaz89]

shit it doesnt look half bad! id say it would be 80-90m in hieght!


















perthwa your chrisaus, its sooo obvious!:colgate:

[NZer]

In the brigg and still posting project info&pics,what would we do without you chris;)

[finn]

Originally posted by dilaz89
shit it doesnt look half bad! id say it would be 80-90m in hieght!


Yeah, it looks pretty good! Great to see some decent height on the eastern side...I though we were destined to be stuck with 10 storey East Perth towers down that end forever! ;)

What's next to the site - where they show the grassy bit? Cause Condor has a mighty big blank wall on that side...maybe they expect something else to be built there? Is it really an empty site? :?

[NZer]

I'd noticed that too,I geuss its just inevitable that another tower goes up next to it.Now we just have to hope it's sooner rather than later.

[perthwa]

its located at 22 St Georges Terrace on the northern side oposite the concert hall. the plan is, and im sure it hasn't changed is to fully upgade the current building and put 15 levels above to create a 25 level building. [between pier & victorian streets]
finn the site next door is vacant, its a different lot and its not on the market.

[23knots]

Well Chris dude the previous proposal was going to be 100m wasn't it? (largely due to the higher floor to roof heights of the office building).

[perthwa]

I count about 27 levels on the new proposal. see they have put the manhattan towers styled top on it [same developer]
23 knotts the other one had a spire so if it was 100m it would have been to the top of the spire. the office building appears to have a pretty small floor to roof height for office.
It will probably be around 80-85m.

[Dilaz89]

did this go to council 2nite?

[perthwa]

no...
read the agendas [www.perth.wa.gov.au] and you'll see when...

[23knots]

73% sold in the first week (the West). I know some article ages ago mentioned that 80% had already been sold, I think that must have been wrong, it would be impossible to sell so many with no marketing at all. Another tower crane or two for the city in 2005 - great!

[mikeyraw]

The best thing about these inner city residential towers is the fact that it might liven up the city. Perth is the only city that i have been to that is dead at night in the CBD. These devolopments may cause the hay street mall to open at night, instead of directing all the nightlife to northbridge.

[Homeroids]

73% seems high and they say in the advert that prices will rise after Nov 30th so it sounds like marketing manipulation. Anyway, it's all looking good for this one.

[Dilaz89]

73% is still enough to make it start!
all it needs is approval which is very likely!:)

[perthsmike]

nice lokoing tower. the design seems so basic but yet so classy and modern. the last project looked a little over complicated in terms of design, well i think so anyway.

mike

PS, can someone please tell me that the hell "briggs" is, where chris has gone and wats with perthwa!? :?

[Dilaz89]

Originally posted by perthsmike
nice lokoing tower. the design seems so basic but yet so classy and modern. the last project looked a little over complicated in terms of design, well i think so anyway.

mike

PS, can someone please tell me that the hell "briggs" is, where chris has gone and wats with perthwa!? :?
see "forum issues" or something. they are all back now!
is there a pic of the previous proposal?:?
post it plz

[phat>>]

Originally posted by dilaz89
see "forum issues" or something. they are all back now!
is there a pic of the previous proposal?:?
post it plz i think ure forgetting someone called um westside4life 91? hes still in the brig isnt he?

[Dilaz89]

oh yea he was BANNED cause the mods dont like him!:D

[chrisaus]

back on TOPIC
shite its almost 2004 already! so I would say give it 2 years for construction seems its converting an old building and all so It will take alot of work so many expect construction mid-late next year. [fingers crossed]
perth seems to not have a demand problem, more a supply one! we need more quality affordable units put on the market because with the recent amazing sales there is no reason to think they won't sell out pre-construction! people are just waiting for the right project!

[Dilaz89]

WEst point should make some of thweir emu brwery towers affordable! is cc tower affordable?
i hope to see something 100m+ one the rac site!
cant wait to see the final product in 2007

[phat>>]

[:)

[chrisaus]

okay heres the lowdown from wa businessnews

-80% of the main tower and smaller tower were pre sold [25 & 9 levels] like the initial west story said
-and what they have just launched is a 3rd low rise tower
-in total there are just over 180 apartments and most have been sold!
-500 people visited last week to the display office

[Aussie Andrew]

what I dont understand is if a project can sell out in 2 months, why not double or triple the size (and thus the height) and have it sell out in 6 months.

i really feel as if a lot of prime sites are being under developed.

thoughts?

[Dilaz89]

Originally posted by Aussie Andrew
what I dont understand is if a project can sell out in 2 months, why not double or triple the size (and thus the height) and have it sell out in 6 months.

i really feel as if a lot of prime sites are being under developed.

thoughts?
should make it 140m. i recon it would still be a sellout within a couple of months!

[chrisaus]

they obvisously made the development to fit in with the development scheme and what they felt would be a viable development. 182 apartments withing a 25, 9 level and a low rise tower, is a pretty reasonable development for the size of the site. flooding the market will risk 'overheating' the market, what aint a good thing.

[Dilaz89]

Originally posted by chrisaus
they obvisously made the development to fit in with the development scheme and what they felt would be a viable development. 182 apartments withing a 25, 9 level and a low rise tower, is a pretty reasonable development for the size of the site. flooding the market will risk 'overheating' the market, what aint a good thing.
true, but its obvious that this project will be a real sucess so why not add a 50 or so meters on to it?surely it would do no harm.

[chrisaus]

probably overshaddow on government house.

[Dilaz89]

who cares about that stingy old shitthole!?

[Homeroids]

I dont think there are problems with shadows on Govt house which contrary to some belief, is not a shithole :). I vaguely remember that the empty site next to this had approval for a +30 story building back in the late 80's so another 50m's on top of this proposed development would not seem unrealistic.

[chrisaus]

Originally posted by dilaz89
who cares about that stingy old shitthole!?

government house not parliment house, its a nice building!
www.govhouse.wa.gov.au

[Dilaz89]

oh that one. it is alreready overshadowed by trees.

[Dilaz89]

the site
http://home.iprimus.com.au/allyoop1/pics/thesite.jpg

[chrisaus]

the project has been officially launched with another ad in todays saturday west. its say expected completion early 2007 so that could mean construction gets underway late this year depending on how long they expect construction to take

[chrisaus]

22 St Georges Terrace, Perth CBD

-$30million Project
-6 level apartment building fronting hay street with 4 retail tenancies
-27 Level building fronting St georges terrace
-total development 182 dwellings
-92.8m main tower
[B]RECOMENDED REJECTION
[goes to next council meeting]

[Dilaz89]

if this tower gets rejected, im gunna kill whoever is responsible!:D

[NZer]

I'll help you dump the body into the Swan,up near Midland somewhere:cool:

[chrisaus]

no council in their right mind would say no to an extra few hundred residents for the CBD [considering its almost sold out] they go against recomendations quite ofter, though conservative, the council is quite pro residential. if it is rejected it will go back to council again. they council report sugested having the same amount of unit spread more evenly over the site, ie. the main tower is smaller. though that would be crap atleast we would have 2 nice sized tower fronting the terrace and hay street

[Homeroids]

What's the logic or reasoning in the council to have the 2 towers of a similar height? Is it just nimbyism?

[23knots]

Does anyone find the fact that this project has now been heavily re-advertised ("officially launched") odd? It was supposed to have sold 80% prior to any marketing. It is then officially launched (well before Christmas) and the advert claims that it is "73% sold". And now we have had 2 weekends of West adverts declaring an "official launch" again. Is this project really selling as well as the developers claim?:?

[chrisaus]

80% of the main st georges terrace tower did pre sell before marketing, then they publicly launched the project and started selling the smaller tower fronting hay street what sold 73%

[chrisaus]

it was refused by the planning and urban development committe, though its still to go to full council tonight for vote

[chrisaus]

WITHDRAWN FROM COUNCIL MEETING

[Dilaz89]

does this mean it has been canned? i sure hope not!

[23knots]

I thought the fffing authorities here approved of high-density resi! Scum! Let's all move to Brisbane.

[Dilaz89]

nah brizbane only has 3 nice looking towers :D

[perthguy78]

well they have been pissing around with this proposal for years...
it has been proven that there is a big demand for good inner city developments... get a move on and get this built..

i went past barrack plaza site yesterday and there is a big hole but nothing else.. so hopefully that plus cinema city will start soon.. it will really make barrack street so much better with more population and people... that part of perth is really looking seedy now..

[chrisaus]

the developer just withdrawled the application from being voted on by council at tonights meeting, nothing to do with the council, they might be just 'jazzing' up the proposal to get plot ration bonuses, or wasn't confident of it getting through, settle gretel! its done all the time!

btw... barracks plaza's application has been renewed I would say the legal dispute is still going on, legal things take time, hence the delay, there are BGC banners up on the site so they must be just waiting for the word

[Dilaz89]

the site has been like that forever it seems:D
this one is really pissin me off!

[chrisaus]

the other proposal was by a different developer....

[Dilaz89]

went to the marketing centre (lv 17 international house) but it was shut

[chrisaus]

see the ads in the west think its open sat/sun

[23knots]

Originally posted by chrisaus
the developer just withdrawled the application from being voted on by council at tonights meeting, nothing to do with the council, they might be just 'jazzing' up the proposal to get plot ration bonuses, or wasn't confident of it getting through, settle gretel! its done all the time! If you read the council minutes though, the recommendation for refusal is cos the proposal is "significantly higher" than other neighbouring buildings and will overshadow the Terrace and the Supreme Court gardens. There are clear references to the fact that it should not be higher than the International House building next door (70m) and that Condor should be able to allocate its apartments between two shorter buildings.

Still, I'm sure that Condor would not be happy with that as the price for units facing the river will obviously be higher than those fronting Hay St. Let's hope Condor can bribe these nimbys with something.

[chrisaus]

yeah I did read them, and I said heaps of project are approved against recomendations of refusals....

[23knots]

Well in reality there are no overshadowing issues.....I've checked this out just after lunch and during the evening. Not a trace of shadows from the 70m International House - the shadows fall towards the Adelaide Terrace side, along the line of buildings, and are very small. Hopefully you're right and this should go ahead.

[chrisaus]

you are staying in st goeorge and vic arnt you?
send a letter to the council in support ie. when the emu brewrey site was being debated local residents views were taken into consideration. best to try and send letters to the councilors. though thats debatable seems they didn't want it to go ahead and the council still approved it:D but all the nimby neighbours are the ones who comment so lets get an imbys views heard

[RocStar]

so the council wants to refuse this tower because it's higher than the surrounding buildings, well how the fuck can any building get any taller if they don't get approval.
...so does this mean that part of town will near have any decent highrisers?

[chrisaus]

well bankwest and central park got built

[RocStar]

I can't believe they were gonna refuse this because it's to tall!
....i wont be able to sleep tonite!...too pissed off:bleep: :bleep: :bleep:

[chrisaus]

pffft ill say it again THATS A RECOMENDATION from council staff based on how it fits in with the planning guidelines, THE COUNCILS HAVE THE FINAL SAY AND THEY CAN APPROVE OR REFUSE NO MATTER WHAT THE STAFF RECOMENDATION IS icon, emu brewery etc.. were all recomended to have a refusal and they were both APPROVED

[RocStar]

hur? so what your saying is the council can refuse its self:? :colgate:

[chrisaus]

the councilors have the final vote on approvals, the council staff give recomendations to the councilors in relation to how the fit in with the city planning scheme, the councilors can yes go agains the recomendation of council staff.

[RocStar]

so why do u think the developers withdrew their application?..
they might of got a bad vibe :?

[chrisaus]

Originally posted by RocStar
so why do u think the developers withdrew their application?..
they might of got a bad vibe :?

Originally posted by chrisaus
the developer just withdrawled the application from being voted on by council at tonights meeting, nothing to do with the council, they might be just 'jazzing' up the proposal to get plot ration bonuses, or wasn't confident of it getting through, settle gretel! its done all the time!

[RocStar]

i don't know man...sounds a bit sus.
maybe they want to make it taller!:yes:

[chrisaus]

remember they approved the other 25 level proposal for the site...

[RocStar]

can't recall that far back:colgate:
It just #:bleep:* better go ahead!

[chrisaus]

They Have Re-Worked The Design And Reduced To Ceiling Heights What Has Reduced To Building Hight By 5m . council staff still recoment refusal. goes to committee tomorow then to full council next week

[chrisaus]

turn to page 51 of todays saturday west for new angle rendering and info

[Dilaz89]

wish that marketing centre was open weekdays! im never in the city on sat+sunday

[chrisaus]

do you only go in when your wagging :)

condor didn't go to council again

[Dilaz89]

lol iv never wagged a day in my life!

[23knots]

56% sold, Condor hopes to get necessary 75% to go ahead by end of financial year (June 2004, subject to planning approvals).

[chrisaus]

Okay guys, the planning commitee has gone against staff recomendation and approved the project, so when it goes to full council the recomendation will be for approval instead of refusal, this is the re-worked design and should have no troubles being approved. it will be 88m to the roof

[chrisaus]

reading back that makes it less than 5m shorter than before, so thats only like loosing 1-2 levels

[finn]

Is the re-worked design all that different to the original? Is it possible for someone to post the rendering of the new design? Please? :)

[chrisaus]

my understanding is its the same just the floor heights reduced slightly

[23knots]

Thanks for the news Chris, a 90m building in that run-down area of the city is great news. International House next door looks quite impressive and Condor is going to be 20m higher. A victory for Perth's CBD residential development.

[Dilaz89]

wtf international house is a 70's shitbox!

[23knots]

QUITE IMPRESSIVE IN TERMS OF HEIGHT! Not anything else!

[Dilaz89]

ah ok lol

[chrisaus]

Hay Street Side
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p0c2c6ffa056759e7bdfd52ad3e535709/f8e11bc3.jpg

[Dilaz89]

i think it would be better if this was reversed so that the smaller building could enjoy some views!

[BrizzyChris]

Has anyone got a rendering? The pic on the 1st page isn't showing up.

[Dilaz89]

yep, fuck chris u are always deleting renderings and shit!:D

[chrisaus]

oh shit you might have to do something for yourself for once:)

[Dilaz89]

hey i do things! (sometimes)

[Dilaz89]

here


http://home.iprimus.com.au/allyoop1/pics/CONDOR2.jpg

chris had a more clearer one :(

[BrizzyChris]

Cheers. Doesn't look too bad, except for the blank side walls.

[NZer]

Yeah,I hope something is proposed for the site directly next to this one on it's East side within a year or two.

[Homeroids]

The vacant lot next door has had previous approvals for 30+ story buildings. Hopefully that too will be developed. This explains the plain sides because any building on the narrowish lot next door would make windows pointless on Condor Tower. In fact any future building would have minimal distance between - possibly wall touching wall.

[Dilaz89]

yep something will be proposed there im sure. probably around the 70m mark tho

i can see this tower going ahead and the only thing stoping it is the pcc. still 87m is a decent height for east perth, same height as ex-hartleys and higher than the sheraton!

[chrisaus]

I didn't get to the meeting so not sure if its approved, will find out when it goes online [minutes] but condor would set a precent in the area, and with the new law courts hopefully that end of the CBD will get the makeover it needs

[Dilaz89]

yep but most of the 60's and early 70's office buildings are around that area. it would be VERY nice if these monstroseties would be upgraded on the OUTSIDE! btw a bit of the mayholmann centre fell off :D (just near the top)

[chrisaus]

APPROVED :drunk:

[Dilaz89]

siiiiik!

[NZer]

Yey !!!

So,when does it start?

[Dilaz89]

i think it will in the 3rd quarter of 2005

[chrisaus]

pre start prices ending soon? could this mean construction is starting soon:)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid115/p3b20413e2d588f0b5c8ca65f2af9e8e6/f8bd0beb.jpg

[RocStar]

27 levels?? wasn't it 25 before?? wasn't it meant to be reduced?? :crazy2:

[chrisaus]

No just the floor to ceiling heighs were slightly reduced. it has a roof like manhatten towers

[Dilaz89]

manhattan should have been 3 times as high!!!

[chrisaus]

it was an office conversion too by the same developer

[NZer]

It is a nice looking building,one of my Perth Favourites.

Office conversions are cool.

[Dilaz89]

yeah, we don't get too many of them though. the only significant one i can remember is how duxton used to be the tax office.

[chrisaus]

st george and victoria apartments and mont clare are also conversions

[NZer]

Where is mont clare?

[chrisaus]

hay street east

[RocStar]

I took these from a carpark near RPH yesterday. It shows the hay st side of the existing building. Just think how it will over shadow the buildings either side!! :drunk:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/roc1/con1.jpg

http://home.iprimus.com.au/roc1/con2.jpg

[Dilaz89]

theres heaps of squatters in there! sometimes you can see their towles in the window. when did this become abandone?

[chrisaus]

this part of the CBD is going to get a huuuuuge boost with this and the new law courts, and hopefully a string of new projects from the precedent set!

[perthguy78]

its been abandoned for at least 5 years....
when will the law courts begin??? any news on the FESA HQ...

[Dilaz89]

this part of the CBD is going to get a huuuuuge boost with this and the new law courts, and hopefully a string of new projects from the precedent set!
is law courts part of that ugly 60s office tower? id love to see that fuken mofo fall down!

[perthguy78]

yeah.. the may holman center.... its looks like a prison... the family court and the federal court are ok... they are behind the duxton... they will stay there though... just the fugly one will go i think

[fandango]

central law courts and may holman centre are staying aren't they?

it's not just the exteriors that need renovation. these buildings have shoddy old lifts and not enough lifts, crap heating cooling. they're all built the requirements of 40 years ago. the best thing these buildings can become is apartment buildings. On the plus side these buildings all have views.

[chrisaus]

no courts are being demolished to my knowledge, a brand new courts complex is to be built on the corner of hay and irwin streets [currently a CPP] and some of the older courts will be upgraded

[Dilaz89]

fark!! i was up the mayholman centre the other day getting a few brochers for a scool assignemt and the lobby and lifts are fucken dodge as and went at like 2meters per second. one day ill become a developer and buy it and do someting good to it!:D

[chrisaus]

they are putting a tunnel under hay street I read to link the buildings

[chrisaus]

-Went Past Last Night And They Had 2 Security Guards At The Entry, Must Be Making Sure It Isn't destroyed by Squatters Before Construction, Another Good Sign Construction Isn't Far Off!!!

[perthguy78]

cool.. cant wait for this one and the peak :D....... will bulk up that area nicely

[Dilaz89]

who cares if squatters destroy it??

[perthguy78]

well they arent demolishing it... so if it catches fire or something it will end up costing alot more

[CULWULLA]

So im trying to decify Condors final height throughthese 6 pages. Will it be 88m/27storeys? Its 80m on ss.com. ill update if this is correct. Also this will make it the tallest apartment tower in WA?

[Dilaz89]

yup i think you are corrct about height. yes upon completion it will be the tallest

[CULWULLA]

i contacted Condor projects today and there getting back to me with precise height.i think it will be 88m. Thats a descent height for a resi.i wonder if Peak will be tallest if at all? There also getting back to me with height. i chatted to head architect today and he said he will work out absulute height because no-one actually knows yet.lol
He has sumbitted final plans now so it should be final. i reckon if roof is 62m then wavy fin will be approx-75m? so may miss out by inches on Crawley tower.

[perthsmike]

are these designers crazy? :dunno: if i was the head architect i'd be tracing its height millimetre by millimetre! great news though.

mike

[CULWULLA]

i was rang back today by a Condor spokesman and he wanted to know WHY i wanted exact height? I told him a needed to know because of the amount of dynamite ill require to implode its superstructure on completion!!! lol.
then i said i was wondering if it will have a place in Perths history as a 'tallest apartments" over time from lawson flats through to future. then he was interested and said he will ring me with dimensions later in week.lol

[Blend]

lolol. did u really say that? if so u r a complete winner lol.

[Homeroids]

i was rang back today by a Condor spokesman and he wanted to know WHY i wanted exact height? I told him a needed to know because of the amount of dynamite ill require to implode its superstructure on completion!!! lol.
then i said i was wondering if it will have a place in Perths history as a 'tallest apartments" over time from lawson flats through to future. then he was interested and said he will ring me with dimensions later in week.lol

You could have just told him the truth and tell him you are part of a skyscraper nerd forum that posts building heights on the walls of their bedrooms and tries to remember the top 1000 buildings heights :). Furthermore, that you are a moderator on that site :)

[CULWULLA]

official height- 80m!-recieved phone call back from Condor Developments and 80m it is. I told them it will be 3m higher than PEAK and they were happy.
so tallest list will go as follows>


LAWSON FLATS-1937 (40M/11ST)
MT ELIZA APTS, WEST PERTH, 1968 (58M/16ST)
STRATHBURN TOWER, CRAWLEY -1975 (76M/23ST)
THE PEAK, EAST PERTH 2005? (77M/22ST)
CONDOR, EAST PERTH 2006? (80M/27ST)
EMU BREWERY TOWER 1 2007? (161M/50ST)

[NZer]

lol
Perth will double the height of its tallest resi in one year from 2006-2007.
Condor 80m...........then Emu Brew #2 at 161m just one year after.............hopefully anyway!!

[Homeroids]

80m's is better than nothing. Would still like to see the 100m mark being cracked more often ;)

[perthguy78]

how tall is international house next door??

[Dilaz89]

internation hse is 70m

[CULWULLA]

quick comparison table
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/pcb0874452c139bf7101aa8da1a8f1b0a/f8413101.jpg

[finn]

^^For a "quick" comparison table that diagram looks bloody good Cul! :okay:

[chrisaus]

*See Page 17 Of Todays Saturday West Australian Newspaper For More Info
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p2363249261af69fef8739ae1c8c6b2ee/f7e99a1b.jpg

[RocStar]

Yeah I saw it. They claimed it to be Perth's tallest res tower...maybe from Cul advise:D

[chrisaus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/perthwa/3a2f121d.jpg

[Dilaz89]

it would be good if they puyt a billboard about condor outside that bldg to show tourists that its soon to be developed

[chrisaus]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/pa51db093dbdd66d2fc3a3fa9f9d017dc/f76bbe47.jpg

[Dilaz89]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/mdilaz/condorepth.jpg

[perthwa]

my cousin who works for condor says construction planed to start in december

[CULWULLA]

Yeah I saw it. They claimed it to be Perth's tallest res tower...maybe from Cul advise:D
when i was enquiring about there height they said it was going to be tallest mainly due to number of floors. they didnt actually know heights of other contenders-ie-23lev Strathburn tower
when i told them it was tallest by only a few metres they were happy.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid122/pcb0874452c139bf7101aa8da1a8f1b0a/f8413101.jpg

[Dilaz89]

big step from 80m to 150m

[CULWULLA]

any action yet guys?

[Dilaz89]

perthwa apparently has 'contacts' in this project. he should know

[perthguy78]

probably his mum is the new security :D

[Dilaz89]

haha i can imagine chris' mum bing one of those security guards with balls! and chris is the little bitch of the family!:D

[perthwa]

watch out you southern suburbs suburban git ill get my nothern burbs crew onto you, i live near whitfords shops dude you have no hope:D

[Dilaz89]

well i have the garden city clan! beat that or ill get them on ur turf!:D

[perthwa]

oh the people that think they are classy sorry guys garden city is a hole....:D

[Dilaz89]

fuck man whats there to be sorry about? its a shit heap!!!! i used to think it was kool but now i have advanced and fucking hate it!!!

[perthwa]

yeah I used to stay at karrinyup for hours the last time i went i was there for like 5mins then i realised im insane:D atleast there are no fast food stores there

[perthwa]

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/3930/150-5089_IMG.jpg

[Auxodium]

you are just so classy living in ........ :p (suburb reference removed by request. Please respect each other's privacy) :)Homer...

i can talk :D

[perthwa]

UPDATE>>>
in todays saturday west in tenders section they were tending on a large apartment project what I think is condor to start in APRIL 2005 with a MID 2007 completion! 5 months till construction!
http://www.mawson.iinet.net.au/swan/city/citypics/mews400264.jpg

[Dilaz89]

cool not long!!!! that means site works ect should start in say feb!!!

[Perth4life]

u dont have the garden city clan michael ----------------- Keep dreaming.

[Dilaz89]

Wtf????

[finn]

You guys should read the SPAM thread at the top of the posts. :|

[perthwa]

saw the ad again today the project was for 130 units this is over 180 units, so its not this project, so construction on condor could still start this year, also I think that project might be 996 hay street thats my guess, also there was an ad in the paper for leasing the retail space on hay street so a sign there is life in the project left

[Perth4life3]

i gotta question> do you find the advertisement for this tower and others in the real estate of the west?

[perthwa]

saturday west australian after the employment pages tenders section

[Perth4life3]

cant find it

[Perth4life3]

chris i looked in real estate and i found - altair and 128 but whatdu mean after employment (maybe a page number would help) ive looked and theres entertainment after employment.

[Dilaz89]

its like a small little notice.

[perthwa]

Page 149-150 In Todays Saturday West Australian, Tenders....

[Dilaz89]

Omg 2005 will be fucken huge for perth construction!

[perthwa]

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_24/300/CJ_24_34785_24096.jpg
http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CJ/CJ_24/300/CJ_24_34785_24097.jpg

Address: Condor Tower, 471 Hay Street, Perth

Price: $ 155,000 - $ 354,000 (AUD) GST Exclusive

BRAND NEW OFFICE SUITES
This is a rare opportunity to secure these highly sort after quality offices. Areas range from 43 sqm to 132 sqm.

Amenities include:
-gymnasium
-heated pool
-undercover security parking.
-Located next to the new central Law Courts, cafe strip, Hay Street Mall. It's the perfect CBD location.

It's never been easier to secure on 10% deposit with settlement due mid 2007.

BRAND NEW CBD RETAIL UNITS
Four magnificent street front retail units facing Hay Street. Perfect location next to the Mercure Hotel, Central Law Courts and the Hay Street Mall. All units service 182 apartments and 15 offices.

Areas range from 61sqm to 75sqm with prices ranging from $289,000 to $354,000.

[Homeroids]

This obviously is not referring to the tower we are mainly interested in fronting the Trc side but it's still interesting to know...

[Dilaz89]

it will probably all start construction at the same time so its relavent

[Perth4life3]

at least somethings on hay street

[Dilaz89]

http://img176.exs.cx/img176/677/1656527img9ib.jpg

[Dilaz89]

ok for those who dont know the above pic shows very early groundworks in progress.

[Perth4life3]

yey, its getting underway.

[perthguy78]

looks like a bunch of sand.. were there any workers there... i thought they were building ontot the top of the old building... are the groundworks for a crane base?

[Perth4life3]

im happy about condor, looks good, btw sorry for going off at u in the other thread perthguy78.

[Dilaz89]

the sand would be for the northern part of the site where they will build the 5lv component.

[CULWULLA]

let us know when you want to put Condor UC on ss.com.
cheers

[Dilaz89]

yeah probably by march/april things should start fully.

[Dilaz89]

"From Australia, Perth property marketers, Wayne Briggs and Janine Thomas, will be showcasing The Condor Tower – Perth’s Tallest Residential Tower, which will soon begin construction, after having receiving record “off the plan” sales enquiries."

http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news05/291-Property.shtml

[Dilaz89]

http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Perth/English/News_Content/Images/CondorCourt.jpg
Rare Opportunity to Purchase New CBD Strata Offices and Retail
A rare opportunity exists for businesses to purchase new strata office and retail premises in a prime CBD location. The premises are located at Condor Court, 471 Hay Street. Colliers International has been appointed as the selling agent for this unique opportunity to buy into one of Perth’s most exiting developments.

Whilst the sub-division of older CBD office buildings into strata titled office space has become more common in Perth there has not been any developments offering new strata titled offices developed in the CBD.

Martin Tavra, Executive, Commercial and Investment Sales, Colliers International said, “The advantages of purchasing office space within this building is that it has been carefully designed around the needs of strata office users it will offer brand new building services and a superior standard of communal facilities.”

“This is the first building that has been built in the CBD offering brand new purpose built strata office space.”

Mr Tavra commented that one of the issues of purchasing space in an older building is that you never know when building services such as lifts or air-conditioning will need substantial amounts of money spent on them. This can leave smaller owner-occupiers or investors very exposed.

“Condor Court offers brand new space and services which as well as coming with new warranties also offers attractive depreciation benefits.”

Condor Court is located close by the Hay Street Mall and Central Law Courts. It is also across the road from the proposed new $127 million dollar CBD courts complex which will be built on the corner of Irwin and Hay Streets. The new complex will include the District Court, Supreme Court and Criminal Court courtrooms and is due for completion in 2007 / 08. This new complex will increase the amount of legal activity in the area.

Mr Tavra said that strong interest was expected from owner-occupiers and investors keen to take advantage of the excellent location. We are also expecting strong enquiry from legal professionals looking for an office close to the Law Courts.

There are only 15 strata offices, which will range in size from 43 to 132 square metres and prices start at only $155,000 plus GST. All the office suits come with a minimum of one car bay. As well as the office suites there are just four retail shops with exposure to Hay Street, these range in size from 61 to 75 square metres plus an additional mezzanine area, these are priced from $289,000 plus GST.

The premises also give the owner or tenant access to facilities within the building, which include a heated swimming pool, gymnasium and secluded garden court area for relaxation. Many of the office suites have a balcony area with a pleasant outlook. This level of facilities cannot even be matched by Perth’s Premium office towers.

The space is being sold off the plans and will be completed in 2007. Purchasing now allows buyers to fix the price at today’s value but pay in 2007 and get the advantage of growth in the market between now and then. The current strong demand for CBD office space will mean that demand for this type of office space is likely to be strong once completed and the availability of quality office space in the CBD will be quite low. It also means that the new court complex will be completed not long after this building.
http://www.colliers.com/Content/Attachments/CondorCourt.jpg

[Blue_Copper]

....

[Auxodium]

damn it start digging guys! :p i can't wait for the foundations to be laid! :)

[CULWULLA]

any action yet guys. this thread was back 3 pages.

[Dilaz89]

i waked past wendesday and no action. tenders were going out and its set for an april start!

[Citystyle]

Good news its been so long. Never posted in condor before but it is all good.

[RocStar]

For those who didn’t see The West..45% of the office component SOLD..Good news!. Both office and apartments seem to be doing well. Should see some action real soon.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid127/p2363249261af69fef8739ae1c8c6b2ee/f7e99a1b.jpg Apartment tower.

[Dilaz89]

OMFG went to the marketing centre today fuken hell amazing view, its @ 26 st georges terrace on level 17 of international house, its has a model plus access to the roof omfg omfg omfg you have to get there fuking great view well worth a trip into the cbd, open 1pm - 5pm weekend and 12-2 weekendays, and when they get up to $55million in sales it will start i was told, and they are close to that and they said should start in 3 months

[Citystyle]

Been on sale for a while. Construction should start soon.

[Auxodium]

OMFG went to the marketing centre today fuken hell amazing view, its @ 26 st georges terrace on level 17 of international house, its has a model plus access to the roof omfg omfg omfg you have to get there fuking great view well worth a trip into the cbd, open 1pm - 5pm weekend and 12-2 weekendays, and when they get up to $55million in sales it will start i was told, and they are close to that and they said should start in 3 months


i will check it out then! :p

[CULWULLA]

soon?
lol

[Dilaz89]

the guy told us $55m in sale and so far around $45m (this was 3 weeks ago). He said in all, a start will probably be initiated in july/august.

[ninjamaster]

Looks like work has begun, they're tearing the insides out of the building.....

[Dilaz89]

yep, make it u/c now! pics tomoz! prob fone cam but eh!:D

[Dilaz89]

more in dilaz's post, went past tonite i new fence is up and looks like internal work mite be getting underway in preperation for full construction dont get to excited we'll update u tomorow

[Citystyle]

Thanks.

[Dilaz89]

scaffolding going up this eveing on teh aockleigh buildings (old one to be done up) construction is underway, whos knows if its the full go ahead of just pre works till they get full sales, but work is underway

[Dilaz89]

http://img71.echo.cx/img71/7788/dsc008418fw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Auxodium]

so i suppose the thread title can change to UC? :o

[CULWULLA]

thanks guys. ill update ss.com. any renders i can add also?
Perth has now 9 bldgs listed as uc. amazing!
all resi except the Allendale.
cheers

[ninjamaster]

I walked past at lunchtime and a rat almost ran up my fkn leg!!! There would be heaps in that relic!

Cant wait to see this place finished tho!

[Homeroids]

so i suppose the thread title can change to UC? :o

Is it truly U/C or is it just being demolished?

[Dilaz89]

the building isnt being demolished, its being converted into the lower portion of condor tower and the floors will be added to the top

[Homeroids]

with rats and all? urghhh!!! I'd want one of the newer levels :)

[Citystyle]

with rats and all? urghhh!!! I'd want one of the newer levels :)

You think there not going to change the current levels.

[Homeroids]

^

A poor attempt at humour on my behalf. :)

[Citystyle]

I know

[ninjamaster]

I have a friend who has purchased one of these, the fitout is going to be amazing, the views spectacular!! Bamboo floors, very high ceiling (which is another aspect many developer overlook), 2.5 storey grand hotel lobby, granite, marble you name it, its got it. With an address and location to match! On of Perth's best once completed! Besides the south perth esplande ones, mount st, and bellevue tce penthouses!

[Dilaz89]

only the lower levels and penthouses have high ceilings. they were all going to have ceilings the same height as the office building 3.5m or something but pcc rejected it sadly.

[ninjamaster]

I think levels 9 and above are 3 m, which is still pretty high.

Anyone seen any further developments? I haven't been past for over a week but have been told that the scaffolding goes almost to the top of the building, and trucks have been coming and going all day long..

Cheers.

[Dilaz89]

yeah just scaffoling ect.. ill take a photo tomorrow.

[Dilaz89]

http://img290.echo.cx/img290/4559/rimg04683rz.jpg

[Dilaz89]

http://img290.echo.cx/img290/4746/rimg04735ks.jpg

[CULWULLA]

^ so chris, did the height on the side total 80m?

[Dilaz89]

87 rl i think. ill check mayby next week, dont have a chance this one.

[Dilaz89]

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/5937/rimg04717zx.jpg

[CULWULLA]

yeah 87mRl rings a bell. so street must be only 7mRL, thus 80m above.
cheers

[Perth4life14]

im excited bout this :D 80m is alright, how tall is the one there now?

[CULWULLA]

looks 9 storeys going off plans or 28m..

[Perth4life14]

woah cool.

[Citystyle]

im excited bout this :D 80m is alright, how tall is the one there now?

Well it's not small esp for perth. :)

Largest biarch since woodside.

[Dilaz89]

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/1685/dsc010732dh.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/3129/dsc01071filtered7fq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/8027/dsc01070filtered1de.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/6807/dsc01068filtered0ms.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/2239/dsc01064filtered7vo.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img203.echo.cx/img203/6917/dsc01063filtered0rg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[CULWULLA]

lovely model.damn blank walls.
top is interesting.
now i see approx location on skyline. should standout over there. so where does PEAK go in that pic?
thanx

[CULWULLA]

http://img286.echo.cx/img286/8845/condormodel9ot.jpg

[Perth4life14]

the model looks aqesome.

[CULWULLA]

agree. the top2 floors look like a house. it is a double floor penthouse? what a great investment.

[Ipggi]

Are the render colours, actual colours?! I hope so, as it will help hide those plain side walls and make the whole look of the building a little more intersting and different. That penthouse reminds me of that really cool apartment building down on the terrance. Can't remember it's name tho.

[Citystyle]

Not bad not bad. i rather like it.

[NZer]

Are the render colours, actual colours?! I hope so, as it will help hide those plain side walls and make the whole look of the building a little more intersting and different. That penthouse reminds me of that really cool apartment building down on the terrance. Can't remember it's name tho.


Manhatten apartments ?

[Perth4life14]

i love those ones, the purple ones hey behind the altair site?

[Ipggi]

Yeah the 'Manhattan Towers'

[ninjamaster]

the same developer (condor projects) did the manhattan buidling..

the $5mil skyhome on the top of condor tower is already sold.. there are two penthouses below it. not sure if they're sold yet.

[ninjamaster]

oops repost

[Dilaz89]

i think 1 is sold. yes ipiggi, thats the actaull colours. i tihnk walls are blank because on the leftside, only a few meters will be exposed due to the connecting 72m international house and the other side is a developement site.

[Auxodium]

looks nice!

[Capn'Bluebeard]

was googling for condor tower and found this forum.. does anyone know if condor has a webpage??

Cheers

[Dilaz89]

nah but the have a marketing centre on lv18 26 st georges tce whats closing soon so youd better go and visit.....its open 7 days from 2-5pm.

[Dilaz89]

http://img235.echo.cx/img235/5838/dsc01327filtered0cx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Citystyle]

10:50 PM thats a bit late is it not.

Oh crap it's 3:30 AM bugger.

The images in the paper looked just like cove and it ends up fat and blue. Strange.

[Dilaz89]

With over 7,000 high-profile regional and international visitors, Dubai Property Investment Show has consolidated its position as the leading event for residential property investment in the region. The show concluded on February 3, 2005 on a resounding note with hundreds of Dubai and international properties sold and a number of million dollar deals signed.

Guy Guillemard, Marketing Director of The DOMUS Group said, “The success of International Property Week indicates that the event has filled a real need in the market. Visitors and real estate professionals from across the globe who converged at the show, were delighted with the choice and quality of international and regional projects on offer. Many of these investment opportunities had never been seen before.”

“Dubai is already seen as the driver of growth in the regional real estate industry. This helped the show attract professionals and investors from across the globe. Most of our exhibitors commented on the excellent profile of visitors at the show – serious buyers keen on doing business. This exceptional turnout confirms International Property Week as the leading international event for residential and property investment,” he continued.

Guillemard’s comments were echoed by exhibitors and visitors alike. Fereidoun Sanatti, Vice-President, Operations, Saba Real Estate commented, “The show attracted the right kind of visitors – professionals who were ready to discuss business. We met individual and professional buyers from across the GCC, European and Iran. It was an experience we’re definitely willing to repeat next year.” Saba Real Estate cited deals worth AED 5 million on the first two days of the show.

Sheffield Real Estate sold 70 per cent of the Supreme Residency, where each apartment costs between AED 100,00 and 200,000. Al Tameer Real Estate sold several apartments in the Princess Tower project to agents and private investors from the UK, Saudi Arabia and Russia.

Wally Hart, head of Special Projects at Better Homes said, “We found the show very busy and the quality of visitors was very professional. The Bonnington Towers project received a great deal of interest, as did the Al Fattan Marine Towers and Marine Pinnacle. Al Hamra Village of Ras Al Khaimah also closed over twenty sales.”

Several international exhibitors, seeking a foothold in the thriving Middle East were also pleased with their participation at the show. Dr. Wilfried Hake of BAYERNAREAL, Germany “This was one of the best show experiences we’ve had anywhere. It was well-organised, we made good contacts and have set up meetings to discuss further negotiations. We already sold nearly Euro 1 million worth and if our negotiations work out there may be up to Euro 10 million in store, as a result of the Show.”

From Perth, Australia, Wayne Briggs and Janine Thomas said, “We did business worth approximately US$ 33 million for our Condor Tower project, Perth’s Tallest Residential Tower. Dubai’s real estate industry is thriving and seems to hold the key for further growth in the region.”

Lloyd Johns of Lifestyles of New Zealand commented, “We chose the show as the launch pad for Lifestyles, as Dubai is a sophisticated market for property investment. We are delighted with the response especially from UAE nationals, and are in negotiations for our golf course project costing US$ 15 million dollars.”

Alongside the show was the ‘Property Forum’ of free seminars for private and professional investors and the MEED Real Estate Conference, addressed by prominent members of the international real estate industry. “The response to the seminars was very encouraging. Visitors were keen to learn about the challenges of property investment and management from experienced professionals. Overall we can say both exhibitors and visitors told us International Property Week had really exceeded their expectations.” added Dawood Al-Shezawi, Chairman, Strategic Marketing, The DOMUS Group’s partner for the show.

The 2006 Dubai Property Investment Show will take place between 21 and 23 February, 2006.

[Capn'Bluebeard]

From Perth, Australia, Wayne Briggs and Janine Thomas said, “We did business worth approximately US$ 33 million for our Condor Tower project, Perth’s Tallest Residential Tower. Dubai’s real estate industry is thriving and seems to hold the key for further growth in the region.”



There's no way they sold AUD$40+ million worth of property in condor @ Dubai. I spoke to them about two months ago and they'd sold about $50 mil in total, and that was after the dubai visit.