Project | Beachfront Developments

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Anything along the coast of the Perth metropolitan area...

old thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=366751

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http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=102522

High-rise part of Cockburn coastal plan
14th October 2008, 6:00 WST

High-rise apartment blocks could be built on the coastal strip between South Fremantle and Port Coogee as part of a plan to transform more than 300ha into a vibrant residential and commercial area similar to Melbourne’s St Kilda district.

The Cockburn Coast District Structure Plan makes provision for buildings up to 16 storeys along landmark sites within seven development precincts, with up to two 16-storey residential towers flagged in the south-eastern end.

At the heart of the plan, which would see 10,800 new residents in the area and the remaining industrial strip south of Fremantle developed, would be the redevelopment of the South Fremantle power station as a landmark feature of the town centre.

About 60ha would be set aside for residential use, with up to 6 per cent of the 5300 new dwellings single houses, 33-35 per cent low-rise and 31-37 per cent medium to high-rise, which is considered anything more than eight storeys. Mixed use development would comprise 42ha.

Under the plan, Cockburn Road would become a vibrant main street with cafes, offices and a minimum 5000sqm of retail outlets.

The plan adheres to former planning and infrastructure minister Alannah MacTiernan’s Network City policy, which favours higher density infill development around public transport routes.

A public comment period on the plan closed yesterday, with the Department for Planning and Infrastructure set to review submissions.

A WA Planning Commission spokesman said the State Coastal Planning Policy limited building heights to five storeys within 300m of the coast but suitable development could see up to eight storeys in areas such as the power station precinct. Taller buildings would be located outside this zone.

Fremantle and Cockburn council submissions to the plan both called for light rail along Cockburn Road linking to Cockburn Central and Fremantle train stations.

Cockburn council’s submission also supported taller buildings at gateway and landmark sites.

The plan provides for a high-activity beach area north of Port Coogee and 2.3ha of foreshore, with the former Robb Jetty to become public open space.

The power plant, which is interimlisted on the State heritage register, could provide for mixed uses such as boutique hotel accommodation, restaurants and retail.

BEATRICE THOMAS

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[Perth4life]

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i can see the crane from my house, so expect some updates from me when it gets going

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i just moved all but two of the last 56 posts to the Issues thread.

[Phoenix_1]

There is a full page ad in today's Worst for the second Mirvac development at Leighton's and that it will be going to sale in the next few weeks. Sorry, scanner isn't big enough to scan the ad in.

[crave]

any pics from tha development? i can't remember what it'll look like. doesn't appear to be anything on their website either.

[Dilaz89]

Legal bid over Scarborough high-rise risk

4th November 2008, 6:00 WST



A group of Scarborough residents have launched legal action against Stirling council and the State Government in a bid to prevent high-rise development in the area, saying the limestone their homes are built on is unstable and dangerous.

Fifty-six residents have filed an injunction against the City of Stirling and the WA Planning Commission, claiming the ground could not support the widespread eight-storey development allowed under a drawn-out rezoning decision by the former Carpenter government.

Ena Butler said she and her sister Frances had lived in her Harvest Terrace house for 50 years and cracks had appeared in the walls of her bathroom, kitchen and laundry. She said her whole property and others in the street appeared to be slipping down the hill.

“Apparently the limestone this house is built on, and which the entire area is built on, seems to be a very unstable base,” she said.

The problem had been exacerbated recently after heavy machinery was used in the area for several months when a local lake was drained, she said.

A spokeswoman for the parties to the injunction, Elaine McNeill, said the subsidence and cracking of bungalowstyle houses were evidence that highrise development should not be allowed in the area.

“In New York you have granite so you can go as high as you like but what you have here is sand and limestone and over time it cracks away,” she said.

An advocate for the claimants, Robert Lashansky, said locals had been “put on a road to hell” by the council and governments because no water and soil testing had been done before the rezoning — which he believed could lead to eight and 12-storey buildings suffering the same fate as Miss Butler’s house.

“The traditional thinking on limestone needs to be revisited,” he said.

“Before you go ahead and say you’re going to put eight and 12-storey buildings for kilometres along the coast, find out whether you can technically do it safely — firstly because of carbonic acid (a reaction of carbon dioxide and limestone) and secondly the structural stability of the limestone.”

In 2000, Mr Lashansky was suspended by the Legal Practitioners’ Complaints Committee after being found guilty of unprofessional conduct and, two years later, his appeal against that ruling was dismissed by the State Full Court.

The City of Stirling declined to comment. The injunction will go to the Supreme Court next Wednesday.

DANIEL HATCH

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Are they serious? If they can't build them they won't build them. If they can they will. No need for anyone else to try to tell them it's impossible. If your house is falling down it's because of the way your house was built, not some future development. A 50-year-old house with cracks in it, now I've heard everything.

[Auxodium]

that means all houses should be torn down as they are built on the sand plains of Perth...

[ryan79]

If its so dangerous all the residents should move out immediately.

[Dilaz89]

Well Observation city is 18 levels and that's still standing. Theres nothing that modern geotechnical engineering can't achieve and I'm certain the court will dismiss the case.

[aaronaugi1]

Well Observation city is 18 levels and that's still standing. Theres nothing that modern geotechnical engineering can't achieve and I'm certain the court will dismiss the case.

Exactly. 1km tall buildings, bridges spanning kilometers of sea, airport in the middle of the ocean.....if National Geographic channel has taught me anything, its that an limestone ridge poses little issues for the sophistricated construction techniques we have today.

Maybe when this old dogs house was built it was a different story.

[Scraperfan]

i actually couldnt believe what i was reading.

can people really be that stupid? oh wait, this is perth. i forgot for just one sweet moment.

[PD]

“Before you go ahead and say you’re going to put eight and 12-storey buildings for kilometres along the coast, find out whether you can technically do it safely — firstly because of carbonic acid (a reaction of carbon dioxide and limestone) and secondly the structural stability of the limestone.”


Noone is building 'kilometres' of highrise along the coast.

sigh, we wish

[ryan79]

Noone is building 'kilometres' of highrise along the coast.

sigh, we wish

I don't.

I'd rather denser clusters at certain areas around the beach but I would like most to be left alone.

I like that our beaches aren't completely surrounded by high rise.

[aaronaugi1]

I don't.

I'd rather denser clusters at certain areas around the beach but I would like most to be left alone.

I like that our beaches aren't completely surrounded by high rise.

exactly....

DIVERSITY DIVERSITY DIVERSITY. Suitable options that, somewhere along the line, achieve the needs and wants of everyone.

Perth coast should be a mix of high, medium, low and zero density development varying at the suitable locations.

Imposing a development ban on the entire coast is just stupidity.

[samboy]

56 residents. BIG F%&$G DEAL! I think one of them is probably the same person who attributed the drought to DLS.
Do we have the equivalent of suicide hill in Perth for these morons?

[aaronaugi1]

56 residents. BIG F%&$G DEAL! I think one of them is probably the same person who attributed the drought to DLS.
Do we have the equivalent of suicide hill in Perth for these morons?

Whats scary is this is only one area. Imagine if there were proposals up and down the coastline. The true number would then be exposed.

[PD]

I don't.

I'd rather denser clusters at certain areas around the beach but I would like most to be left alone.

I like that our beaches aren't completely surrounded by high rise.

What do you mean left alone?
Is a beach-front of 2 or 3 story homes any more left alone than a beachfront of 5 - 8 level high rise with street level activation?

[ryan79]

What do you mean left alone?
Is a beach-front of 2 or 3 story homes any more left alone than a beachfront of 5 - 8 level high rise with street level activation?

Yeah it is. Houses are very quiet and generally set back a fair distance from the beach.

I like my quiet peaceful beaches. Don't get me wrong I like my vibrant beach fronts too but I'd hate to see wall to wall beachfront activity.

[BartBart]

The Scarborough anti-development people are getting desperate. They lost the vote at the Council twice and are hoping against all hope that the new State Govt will be against the plans.

[perthgazer]

The new Liberal member for scarborough is pro development and high rise at scarbs as I would take is most of the Lib party

those groups disgust me, they lose it democratically twice and still try to weasel around it.

[aaronaugi1]

The new Liberal member for scarborough is pro development and high rise at scarbs as I would take is most of the Lib party

those groups disgust me, they lose it democratically twice and still try to weasel around it.

I don't think someone like Lisa Harvey would be pro-highrise if Scarborough, as it is, actually worked (ie; Hillarys). People like her and Bill Stewart (Council member for Coastal ward) only support development there becuase its a step towards something different to the shit hole it is atm.

[chrisaus]

haha great article hatchy

[RocStar]

How sweet would it be if the height limit was raised lol

[dazzyd]

dunno if this is the right thread to put it in but here goes

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/fremantle-misses-beach-market-boat-20081111-5m5x.html?page=1

Fremantle misses beach market boat
* Chris Thomson
* November 11, 2008 - 11:26AM

Port Beach has dipped out on a night market similar to Darwin's famous Mindil Beach market thanks to Fremantle council's inflexibility, a market developer says.

Natasha Atkinson, who in February started up the popular Mount Claremont Farmers Market on Saturdays, said she had been talking to the City of Fremantle since June.

"It took longer than I thought to go through Fremantle," Ms Atkinson said of her mooted markets, which would have operated each Wednesday night in summer on the car park beside the Oyster Bar on Port Beach Road.

"I cannot believe the difference between dealing with the City of Nedlands and dealing with Fremantle.

"I know that some councils get 'thingy' about markets and you've just got to go with the council that wants them."

Ms Atkinson said staff turnover at the council, and the fact she also needed to get Fremantle Ports and WA Planning Commission approval, helped sink the project.

The markets would have had 60 artisans' and food producers' stalls, and 20 hot food stalls.

Flame throwers, buskers, mime artists, a bandstand and cooking demonstrations would have enlivened the bland beachside car park.

But the council's planning committee, voting on a motion put by Mayor Peter Tagliaferri, scuppered the markets, saying they would take up too many car spaces and were not consistent with the car park's zoning as a reserve.

WAtoday.com.au has contacted Mr Tagliaferri and council CEO Graeme Mackenzie for comment.

Ms Atkinson says she has been sounding Town of East Fremantle mayor Alan Ferris out on a similar proposal on the riverfront there, in a park opposite Leeuwin Barracks.

"I think a lot of people don't know what they're missing, and you wait, when we do get it happening in East Fremantle or South Perth, another council will try to copy it," Ms Atkinson said.

She said that once given the nod, she could get markets similar to her Mt Claremont operation - which attracts 3000 people in four hours each weekend - set up in four weeks.

She said Mr Ferris had been "quite interested". But he refused to commit to any option when contacted yesterday.

"We are happy to look at anything, but there are hoops," Mr Ferris said.

"There is very strong community support for this thing and East Fremantle would consider this sort of development in our town.

"But there is a compliance issue with any application."

Ms Atkinson said she'd based her Port Beach Night Markets concept on the sunset markets at Mindil Beach in Darwin. For decades, those markets have been popular with tourists and locals alike.

"In other states, markets are embraced but here they're a little bit of an unknown quantity," she said.

"People tend to go there and hang out with their neighbours and relatives.

"It changes people's attitudes to life - they're just a little bit more relaxed."

Ms Atkinson said in order to inject life into their localities, councils needed to treat markets differently to other standard development proposals.

"I would encourage councils to get behind the concept, instead of saying it's too hard," Ms Atkinson said.

"Why can't they say 'yes', and we'll review it after six months instead of just saying 'no'.

"If they want to promote more of an atmosphere and get Perth away from its Dullsville tag, they need to think a bit more creatively."

[Scraperfan]

The Mayor of Fremantle has to die.

[aaronaugi1]

the "parking" arguement strikes again!

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http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=108841

Jindee beach proposal ready for council tick
19th November 2008, 6:00 WST

A new Cottesloe-style coastal village in Perth’s northern suburbs would feature commercial beachfront development under a proposal likely to be supported this week by the Wanneroo City Council.

The council was set to pass in-principle support last night for an amendment to the Metropolitan Region Scheme allowing Estates Development Company to build on 6.7ha of beachside land in front of its planned Jindee village, about 37km north of Perth.

The amendment would allow the developer to build within 200m of the beach, with Estates Development to give up 6.1ha for park and recreation use.

Jindee, on Marmion Avenue, would be built on 112ha of land and along a 1km stretch of coastline. The coastal village would house more than 3000 people, with a main boulevard to run from the estate to Brighton’s main street.

Carparks would be concealed behind beachfront development such as cafes, restaurants, retail outlets and accommodation in a move the developer claims will link urban areas directly with the coast.

Wanneroo mayor Jon Kelly said he had mixed views about reducing the development buffer but claimed Jindee would get people closer to the beach in an “active and positive way” without posing a risk to the environment. “I think you have to look at the development on balance and its overall commitment to maintaining the landforms and environmental quality of the subdivision,” Mr Kelly said.

“When you create a subdivision of this nature people are going to want to get close to the beach and they’re going to want to experience it.”

A landmark building similar to Cottesloe’s Indiana Teahouse would be built on a limestone outcrop as part of the project, which involves internationally renowned urban planner Ludwig Fontalvo-Abello.

Mr Kelly said it was obvious what type of development worked along Perth’s coastline.

“People definitely don’t like high rise,” he said.

“People definitely like to get as close to the beach in a manner that is tasteful and not destructive.”

Mr Kelly expected beachside development at Jindee would feature residential buildings. Housing options in the estate will include bigger rural blocks as well as suburban lots, townhouses and terraces.

A portion of Jindee, including the highest sand dune in the district, Eglinton Hill, would be retained. Other areas of native vegetation would also be conserved.

An Estates Development spokesman said the Wanneroo City Council’s support was in line with what had been received since the proposal was first put forward.

The council signed an innovation agreement with the developer and the WA Planning Commission in 2007 in a bid to progress Jindee.

“EDC would never pre-empt the council but will look forward to working with them and the WA Planning Commission in bringing Jindee to fruition,” the spokesman said.

The MRS amendment has been lodged with the WA Planning Commission, with the deadline for submissions closing on November 28.

DALE MILLER
Edited by CATHY SAUNDERS

[stadiumdesigner]

sprawl

[Scraperfan]

dude, i dont think you understand the significance of this. this planning decision is unprecedented in the northern suburbs for 20 years.

thank fuck theyve finally learned something.

[Ipggi]

What is so significant about it, because they are again allowing near beach (under) development? It doesn't really mean much if it is just going to be mcmansions running along a suburban road that faces the beach which houses a single restaurant, grass parks and bbqs. Sounds like 1980's beach sprawl to me, oh wait, I guess that is why it the most unprecedented development in the north for over 20 years? :)

[Auxodium]

just another suburb by the beach... more sprawl for more white pasty poms to come to retire to

[Scraperfan]

you guys suck. read the article again.

this is a major step in the right direction for the area and hopefully it sets a new precedent.

it will be on the scale of cottesloe, perhaps bigger.

[Auxodium]

you dont know how i want it to be that SF, but im not expecting anything of substance to be honest. Landcorp is basically a state land developer of teh same elk as Peet n Co. and Satterly etc

[stadiumdesigner]

cottesloe being low rise, maximum 3 story dwellings, with one cheeky 8 level or so building (obh). and this is the biggest planning feat in the northern suburbs for 20 years?

id much rather see 8lv+ at scabs first

[repi]

Who gives a toss about height? It's street activation that's important, and Marine Pde and the town centre in Cott are very active.

The vast majority of Northern Suburbs beachfront suburbs are not.

This new one will be. Hence, significant.

[Ipggi]

Who gives a toss about height? It's street activation that's important, and Marine Pde and the town centre in Cott are very active.

The vast majority of Northern Suburbs beachfront suburbs are not.

This new one will be. Hence, significant.

I guess your version of very active and mine are two different things :lol:

[ryan79]

I guess your version of very active and mine are two different things :lol:

Its hyperactive for Perth.

[PD]

Minister backs Scarborough high-rise development
Article from: PerthNow
November 25, 2008 12:30pm


PERTH'S iconic Scarborough Beach is about to change dramatically with the State Government approving high-rise development.

Planning Minister John Day has signed off on the City of Stirling's controversial new town planning scheme which allows 12 storey development on selected sites.

"Scarborough is a major metropolitan location and tourist destination that will benefit from revitalisation and improvement,” Mr Day said.

"It is envisioned that height across the area will generally be between four and eight storeys, with three sites awarded a bonus of four storeys to a maximum height of 12 storeys when additional public benefit is included.

"Two sites at the intersection of West Coast Highway and Scarborough Beach Road, currently occupied by the BP service station and Scarborough Fair Markets, are eligible for height bonuses if public parking facilities are provided on site.

"The third site, the White Sands Tavern, is also eligible for a height bonus if vehicle and pedestrian access is provided linking West Coast Highway and Hastings Street. The intended redevelopment of this site can now move forward.''

Mr Day said another significant development in Scarborough was the proposal to redevelop Rendezvous Observation City into residential apartments and to build a smaller hotel.

The application was being considered by the State Administrative Tribunal.

[Auxodium]

i think John Day should be taken to hospital... he is clearly not thinking like a liberal MP or someone from perth who is supportive of higher buildings...

[Scraperfan]

i highly support the redevelopment of rendezvous. the reduction of rooms would be made up by new developments coming onto the market because of the planning laws providing a good framework to allow such new developments.

there would only be a brief period where avaioable hotel room numbers would be lowered.

[samboy]

Well I guess the bloke isn't too bad after all. I just hope the ship hasn't almost sailed though. We had lots of opportunities during boom times to do some about scarbs and well and truly blew it.

[Phoenix_1]

As a Scarborough resident, all I can say is Woohoo!!!!!

Pity it's taken 3 years and it isn't the original 16 storeys I would have liked, but it's better than nothing. (That saying should be Perth's motto).

[Qbriserth]

Oh well least there is some kind of density going up.... Needless to say in 20 years time we might see some smaller kinds of Q1 kind of stuff with young people in power.... Unless the system is growing and nurturing nimbys of highrises through the generations....

I mean it is logical to say that horizontal development creates more issues than a vertical development.

[Bonga]

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/19809.asp

Cottesloe planning: non-residents also urged to have a say

Release date:25/11/08

Future building design controls, including building heights, for Cottesloe's beachfront hotels will be addressed in the next phase of an enquiry-by-design process to help shape future development at the popular beach.

The Town of Cottesloe and Department for Planning and Infrastructure are keen for the next meetings, to be held on Thursday and Friday, 27 and 28 November, to attract the regional community as well as Cottesloe locals.

"Since a high proportion of visitors to Cottesloe Beach come from outside the suburb, we would like to encourage all users of the beach and interested community members to take part in the enquiry-by-design process," Town of Cottesloe Mayor Mr Morgan said.

"The aim of enhancing the amenity and ambience of the suburb for the benefit of residents and visitors alike is long entrenched in Cottesloe's settlement and planning history. This latest planning and consultation exercise continues in this tradition."

The enquiry-by-design process involves professionals from the Town of Cottesloe, state government agencies and consultants, together with the community, coming together to tackle technical and planning considerations associated with the recreation, tourism and land use at Cottesloe Beach.

Workshops held earlier this month, which addressed future development potential for the railway lands west of the railway line and Curtin Avenue, attracted over 100 members of the public.

The enquiry-by-design process provides opportunities for community members to attend workshop sessions in the evenings, receive briefings on progress, ask questions and give comment.

"Under the State Government's Network City planning framework, Cottesloe's future planning needs to have regard for the regional demands for metropolitan growth," said Department for
Planning and Infrastructure Director General Eric Lumsden.

"The enquiry-by-design process aims to recognise and address these pressures without destroying the special character of Cottesloe."

Times for this week's enquiry-by-design public sessions are:

* Wednesday 26 November 5pm-7pm: Briefing on the enquiry-by-design process

* Thursday 27 November 6pm-8pm: Briefings, questions/comments

* Friday 28 November 6pm-8pm: Briefings, questions/comments

The sessions will be held in the Lesser Hall, Town of Cottesloe Civic Centre, 109 Broome Street, Cottesloe. Please call 9355 0300 to indicate your intention to attend.

[samboy]

lol that'll piss off the nimby cottesloe residents. How dare the rest of the Perth rif raf have a say in THEIR suburb :lol:

[Sanj]

nah they will remember it fondly as the day they roughed it when the pleb came to visit

remember that day when all "those people" came and actually thought their opinions mattered? hehe poor things never had a chance. so, see u at the blue duck for lunch?

[TRS-80]

I meant to mention the EBD at the FP meeting - is anyone going?

[Scraperfan]

http://www.thewest.com.au/getfile.aspx?Type=image&ID=446518&ObjectType=3&ObjectID=221360

Marina plan for Alkimos
12th November 2008, 6:00 WST

A new marina with 1000 pens that will aim to outclass the Hillarys precinct is on the cards for the long-awaited Alkimos development.

The marina has been mooted for the prime coastal node that will be the first development in the massive project by LandCorp and other players 40km north of Perth.

Alkimos is such a big enterprise that it is expected a new local government authority may be set up to oversee the proposed coastal city, which is now under the City of Wanneroo.

LandCorp chief executive Ross Holt said a new council could be required, considering Alkimos would cover about 2600ha, stretch along 7.5km of coastline and be home to more than 50,000 people in the next 25 years.

“As the City of Wanneroo grows and grows, there might be a need for a new City of Alkimos,” he said.

The master plan for Alkimos Eglington will provide 40 per cent of the land needed in Perth’s expanding north-west metropolitan corridor over the next 25 years.

Of the total land area, LandCorp owns 900ha of urban-zoned land and its first move is to plan and develop up to 710ha in a joint venture with a development partner. Mr Holt said the Alkimos coast, one of the few regional beaches along the WA coastline, had been described as a Scarborough or Cottesloe equivalent.

“It has a sweeping bay and is protected by the reef and headlands, so it is self-selecting as a major coastal node.”

The coastal strip would be the first section to be developed and was likely to include a marina to rival Hillarys.

He said Hillarys was a “bolt-on” that had been added later, with the marina, restaurants and carpark on one side of the road and suburbia on the other. But while it was originally controversial, it was now one of the most visited destinations in Perth after Kings Park.

But the Alkimos marina is expected to steal a march on Hillarys because it will be integrated into the city lifestyle.

“What we are saying is if we are going to have a major marina development, we have got to try to have high-density, with apartments that may be medium rise that take advantage of all the amenities and facilities,” Mr Holt said.

The multi-billion-dollar coastal city project will include the regional centre of Alkimos, a smaller district centre called Eglinton, three coastal villages, 11 schools, two service industry zones and more than 500ha of regional open space.

Alkimos is not as big as a strategic regional centre such as Joondalup but is more along the lines of the Claremont, Morley or Stirling hubs. It will have educational, health and government services as well as retail outlets. The aim is to create a community that is of top significance.

“It should become a reference point globally for high-quality, sustainable, benchmark developments,” Mr Holt said.

“The regional centre will be driven in part by population growth plus potentially by the rail extension, which will be a major catalyst,” Mr Holt said. “The extension will happen, it is just a matter of when.”

Alkimos will need the boost of a railway to add to the impetus given by the opening of the extension of Marmion Avenue through to Yanchep.

Lands Minister Brendon Grylls said the State Government had put the extension of the railway line to Butler on hold in the uncertain economic climate, but it would eventually go to Butler and Alkimos.

“There is no denying the railway will make its way north and find its way to Alkimos,” he said. In the meantime, Alkimos residents would have the use of a free CAT bus service taking them to and from Clarkson station.

“But the businesses that wish to come to Alkimos, to set up in the commercial precinct, actually don’t want the notion that everyone wakes in the morning, jumps on the train and heads south,” Mr Grylls said.

“We are looking at a master plan for 50,000 people and that becomes selfcreating. There are going to be many people who shop, go to school and tertiary education and everything else in that local community. The exciting thing for a business is that you have got a captive audience.”

Mr Holt said a new city was needed because Perth was forecast to grow strongly.

“This growth is going to happen so we can either plan for it or be overrun by it,” Mr Holt said.

“It is the Cottesloe or Scarborough of tomorrow. It is going to be a fantastic lifestyle.

“And people might work in Joondalup or Yanchep or the Neerabup Industrial Estate, plus there will be employment areas within the development itself.”

In fact, Alkimos is expected to provide a major fillip for Joondalup, which is 14km to the south.

The development partner will be able to influence the planning of the city as it evolves. And if the company has land in other parts of WA, it can potentially do a deal with LandCorp to swap some of it with Alkimos land. For example, Land-Corp would be keen to obtain land in other corridors such as in the north-east or south-east of Perth.

And the partner will have to be strong and green.

“We want someone who has got longterm financial capacity, experience in major developments with a sustainable bent, and similar values and shared vision with LandCorp,” Mr Holt said. “We want someone who believes sustainability is the way of the future.”

The project will be developed on five strategic themes — green energy, smart water, community well-being, including employment, connectivity and distinctive design.

The other landowners at Alkimos — Eglinton Estates, Peet and the Water Corporation — have agreed that the city should be less car-dependent and conducive to housing a walkable community that uses public transport.

It is hoped the coastal node will start within two years and the regional centre within five years.

Initial expressions of interest from prospective development partners close in December.

LandCorp’s major northern beachside development plans encompass homes for 50,000 and 1000 boat pens

CATHY SAUNDERS

[Scrawny]

What does this mean.

Mr Holt said the Alkimos coast, one of the few regional beaches along the WA coastline,

Project sounds awesome btw.

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Cottesloe plan reveals high-rise homes (http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=110438)
28th November 2008, 7:00 WST

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3213/54127072nn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Multi-million-dollar plans to redevelop two big Cottesloe pubs into eight-storey hotels and apartment buildings were unveiled last night as the beachside community met to decide what kind of development was appropriate.

Ocean Beach Hotel owner Stan Quinlivan and Martin Steens, director of Cottesloe Beach Hotel owner Multiplex, revealed scale models of their designs to crowds gathered at one of the Department of Planning and Infrastructure’s community consultation forums to help decide the buildings’ height limits.

Mr Quinlivan said his $250 million plan included a four-star hotel on the 1.2ha site with medium and high-density apartments and a replica of the original 1906 pub designed from original plans.

Penthouses would sell for $6 million to $8 million. The eight-storey sections of the development are set back from the road and the proposal is dependent on the community accepting it.

Multiplex’s plan for a $100 million, eight-storey redevelopment of the Cottesloe Beach Hotel includes upgrading the heritage-listed main building — which will stay as a hotel — with 20 short-stay units.

The rest of the 3330sqm site will have 45 to 50 apartments.

Mr Steens said both hotels were under significant pressure to reduce their patron numbers and the redevelopments offered that.

“Both developers are adamant if we can’t get eight storeys they won’t go ahead because this is what is required to make it a commercially viable business,” he said.

Mr Quinlivan also suggested a three-storey underground carpark beneath the current carpark between the two hotel sites, with cafes and restaurants on top to create an entertainment strip.

DANIEL HATCH

[Bonga]

...the proposal is dependent on the community accepting it.
:|

Need I say more?

[NailZ]

Mr Steens said both hotels were under significant pressure to reduce their patron numbers and the redevelopments offered that.


My blood is boiling. I'm just so angry from that statement that I cant even verbalize it...

[aaronaugi1]

:|

Need I say more?

Red tape red tape red tape red tape....

I have zero hopes what so ever this project will ever get off the ground. It's going to take one ballsy planning minister.

[docker]

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=110995

Doubts over future of $50m Rotto hotel
2nd December 2008, 6:00 WST

A planned $50 million hotel complex on Rottnest Island has become bogged down with contractual issues, sparking claims the development may not proceed.

Rottnest Island Authority chairman Laurie O’Meara has conceded that work on the 120-room complex on Mt Herschel, overlooking Longreach Bay, would not start before the end of the year.

However, he insisted an agreement could be reached with the developer.

Rottnest Society convener Sue Folks, who campaigned against the development, said she now had serious doubts the project would proceed. She urged the authority to say whether or not the project had “fallen over”.

A prominent Perth developer who lost the tender process to build the upmarket hotel described the delays in construction by Broadwater Hotels and Resorts and the authority as an “absolute disgrace”.

Tom Galopoulos, whose company Saruman Holdings was one of two final bidders which were overlooked in favour of Broadwater to develop and operate a world-class hotel on Rottnest, told The West Australian that if agreements could not be reached quickly on projects such as these, they were not likely to happen.

He said he did not believe constructing the hotel was viable in the current economic conditions but would consider “revisiting” the project if he was approached.

Mr O’Meara said contractual issues such as accommodation and lease arrangements had been “nutted out” but he understood the sticking point was that Broadwater was still organising finance.

He acknowledged the process had taken longer than expected but said it was a complex project. He was unable to give a starting point but expected the contract to be finalised “within a couple of months” with Broadwater then given a “reasonable time period to get up and going”.

“All I can say to you is that the negotiations are well advanced and we are still confident that the project is going to go ahead,” Mr O’Meara said.

“But due to the issue of finance being arranged like many things I don’t think people would be giving locked-in undertakings.”

Broadwater Hotels and Resorts was named as the preferred proponent in January last year but has yet to break ground on the project amid a range of issues with the island’s management plan allowing for a hotel, design changes and commercial negotiations.

In August, Broadwater chief executive Scott Cogar said he was confident construction would begin on the 4.5-star hotel by the end of the year, with the hotel open for visitors in 2010. Mr Cogar did not return calls yesterday.

BEATRICE THOMAS

[Qbriserth]

Are there any plans or renders around for this ^^ development? :)

[Ipggi]

http://www.longreachbay.broadwaters.com.au/ ?

[dallastexjr]

From WA Business News online

Perth coastal plan up for public comment
3-December-08 by Edited announcement

Planning Minister John Day is urging all users of Perth's coastline to have a say on the draft Perth Coastal Planning Strategy.

Mr Day said the aim of the strategy was to provide guidance and support to decision-making on the future land use, development and conservation of the Perth metropolitan coastline from Two Rocks to Singleton.

"The strategy is a draft, it is not a fixed Government approach and I invite the public to tell us how they see the coast developing in the future - how we can protect it from environmental harm as well as welcoming development," he said.

"The State Government needs a framework to work with, to help guide future management, balance competing interests and addressing the impacts of natural processes and climate change - this strategy is the basis for achieving this.

"Acknowledging that 'everyone wants a piece of our coast', the draft Perth Coastal Planning Strategy offers guidance for the location, scale and density of developments over the next 10 to 15 years.

"The four-wheel drive owners, the recreational fishers, the people on jet-skis, the surfers and the paddle sport enthusiasts and are as passionate about their right to use the coast as are the conservation-minded beachcombers, those who enjoy the view from beachside cafes and property developers.

"Some in the community want to recreate in marinas, while others want natural coastlines uninterrupted.

"We need input from all of these perspectives and will take every comment into consideration before finalising the strategy."

The document identifies 56 individual coastal precincts and examines each in terms of its existing environment, major issues and planning considerations, land uses, distinctive features and recommendations for future development and management.

The recommendations for future land use planning take into account the influence of the surrounding land; how to optimise the characteristics of the precinct and integrate the Perth Coastal Planning Strategy with the Network City policy.

The draft strategy conforms with State Planning Policy 2.6 (State Coastal Planning Policy) and supports limiting building height to five storeys except in clearly defined circumstances.

The outcomes of the Perth Recreational Boating Facilities Study have been incorporated into the strategy and it provides recommendations for potential boating facilities and marina development.

The Minister said that the public had already helped shape the draft strategy document through a long and extensive public consultation period that included reference groups, forums, workshops and surveys.

"The community of Perth has provided the vision for the strategy, its key guiding principles, and the basis for defining the appropriate character of precincts along Perth's coast into the future," Mr Day said

The draft Perth Coastal Planning Strategy is available from:
- The WAPC website at http://www.wapc.wa.gov.au/comment
- The Department for Planning and Infrastructure, 469 Wellington Street, Perth,
- coastal metropolitan local libraries.

[Dilaz89]

this our chance to get rid of labors 8lv state-wide cap. I hope JD has the balls to change this.

[RocStar]

This John Day is turning out to be an OK guy...for a liberal scum that is.

[Dilaz89]

He seems very receptive to ideas and fresh opinions. Although he's an oldie by political standards (served in both court governments) he is moving with the times.

[ryan79]

I'd say he has a vested interest. Not cos he's Liberal but cos he's a politician.

[Bonga]

Although he's an oldie by political standards (served in both court governments)
Nah, only in Richard's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Day_(Australian_politician)

[Sanj]

This John Day is turning out to be an OK guy...for a liberal scum that is.

why so bitter? u must be one of those blind labor voters who will back them no matter what. get used to the fact that this "liberal scum" is going to be around for a while.

ive been quite happy with what he has said so far, looking forward to speaking with him further.

[docker]

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/login.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wabusinessnews.com.au%2Fstory%2F1%2F68781%2FScarborough-high-rise-go-ahead

Scarborough high-rise go ahead
4-December-08
Written by Janelle Macri

Australasian Property Investments is going ahead with the development of Scarborough's first high-rise development after an amendment removing height restrictions received ministerial approval, while plans for high-rise apartments are underway in Cottesloe.

Last week, Planning Minister John Day approved amendment 458 to the City of Stirling town-planning scheme, which allows developments of up to eight stories in the scheme area around West Coast Highway and Scarborough Beach Road.


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[Scraperfan]

damn locked article.

im thinking we shoud purchase a wa business news online subscription using the funds we pooled for futureperth?

all committee members could have the login.

[perthgazer]

Scarborough high-rise go ahead
News: 4-December-08 by Janelle Macri


Australasian Property Investments is going ahead with the development of Scarborough's first high-rise development after an amendment removing height restrictions received ministerial approval, while plans for high-rise apartments are underway in Cottesloe.

Last week, Planning Minister John Day approved amendment 458 to the City of Stirling town-planning scheme, which allows developments of up to eight stories in the scheme area around West Coast Highway and Scarborough Beach Road.

Three sites - currently occupied by the BP service station, Scarborough Fair Markets and White Sands Tavern - have been given approval to go to a maximum height of 12 storeys, provided developments meet certain criteria for public space and access.

The approval is the culmination of almost 14 years of lobbying by business and interest groups, particularly the tourism industry, which has been working to remove planning restrictions on new developments designed to revitalise the area and enhance amenity.

Sunset Coast Tourism Association president Paul Regan applauded the approval of the amendment, but said the approval in itself would not lead to developments being built straight away.

"It doesn't mean immediate development, it allows for meaningful development to happen in the future," Mr Regan said.

But, he believes, the amendment doesn't go far enough, calling for further height allowances of up to 20 storeys to meet the current needs of the area.

"What was appropriate 14 years ago is no longer appropriate," he said.

"Scarborough is in a total commercial decline. Ten years ago there were 12 retail outlets in the lobby of Observation City hotel, today there are none," he said.

"Scarborough has been totally ruined by the inept, inadequate and incompetent regulation by the City of Stirling's planning department.

"Tall is not bad, bad architecture is bad."

While there are a number of site owners in the scheme area considering developments, the re-development of the White Sands Hotel site is likely to be the first to proceed.

Owner API is currently working with Daglish-based architect Oldfield Knott on design plans for the 12-storey development, which will include residential and short-stay apartments, as well as potential commercial and retail components.

The existing building will be demolished, with the development to include a rebuilt pub/bistro and TAB facilities, along with up to 160 residential units and 80 tourist accommodation units.

Submission to council of the development application is expected by April 2009.

API director Peter Hughes said the company had been waiting almost 17 months from when the City of Stirling passed the amendment to receipt of ministerial approval to proceed with its development plans.

"We couldn't arrange anything until we had planning certainty," he said.

Sites previously mooted for redevelopment include Scarborough Fair Markets, a residential and retail development by Peter's By the Sea owners the Kakulas family, Luna Maxi Mart, and a hotel on Scarborough Beach Road which currently houses hospitality group Seashells' head office.

The proposed conversion of Observation City into a residential apartment tower and eight-storey boutique hotel is to be determined by the planning minister, with a decision expected in the first half of 2009.

Meanwhile, development to a height of eight storeys is also being planned for Cottesloe, with the owners of the Ocean Beach Hotel and the Cottesloe Beach Hotel releasing plans for apartment and hotel complexes at their respective sites.

The $250 million development at the Ocean Beach Hotel includes plans for an eight-storey hotel and residential apartments.

Cottesloe Beach Hotel owner Multiplex is also planning a $100 million eight-storey development, which would include about 46 residential apartments and 20 short-stay units.

Both developers say the projects will only be viable if they're allowed to build to eight storeys.

[RocStar]

How sweet for the owners of the Cottesloe Beach Hotel and Ocean Beach Hotel after all the shite they went through with the Cottesloe council, trying to further reduce their height to what 12m? Now they can increase their heights from the previous rejected plans.. ha ha


why so bitter? u must be one of those blind labor voters who will back them no matter what. get used to the fact that this "liberal scum" is going to be around for a while.

ive been quite happy with what he has said so far, looking forward to speaking with him further.

Hardly. I voted for labor based on their plans and policies like most on here. I still need more from the Libs to see them in a positive light.

[Dilaz89]

API are good developers who churn out quality buildings. Looking forward to seeing their plans.

[Scraperfan]

i hope the site better interacts with west coast highway with the new development.

i would like the new building to be located much more towards the highway, or at least be lined with podium buildings, dont you agree?

[TRS-80]

A high-powered team of private and government planners has made it clear that eight-story developments of the Ocean Beach Hotel and Cottesloe Beach Hotel sites are not on.

From the front page, see http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20081206/20081206.pdf for the rest - they don't have HTML versions and copying and pasting from the PDF doesn't work right.

[Skyline Art]

From the front page, see http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20081206/20081206.pdf for the rest - they don't have HTML versions and copying and pasting from the PDF doesn't work right.

What about just print screening the PDF article into a blank document or paint picture, saving it as a JPEG image then uploading it to a photo bucket, Image Shack or something and then providing a source in the forums?, i do this a bit...:lol:

[TRS-80]

What about just print screening the PDF article into a blank document or paint picture, saving it as a JPEG image then uploading it to a photo bucket, Image Shack or something and then providing a source in the forums?, i do this a bit...:lol:
Yeah, ok:
http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/post-20081206-1.jpg

http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/post-20081206-96.jpg

[Dilaz89]

those planners need a good kick up the arse.

mind you, these are the same planners who have helped to shape the perth of today.

[city_thing]

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/login.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wabusinessnews.com.au%2Fstory%2F1%2F68781%2FScarborough-high-rise-go-ahead

Scarborough high-rise go ahead
4-December-08
Written by Janelle Macri

Australasian Property Investments is going ahead with the development of Scarborough's first high-rise development after an amendment removing height restrictions received ministerial approval, while plans for high-rise apartments are underway in Cottesloe.

Last week, Planning Minister John Day approved amendment 458 to the City of Stirling town-planning scheme, which allows developments of up to eight stories in the scheme area around West Coast Highway and Scarborough Beach Road.


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pfffft. Media beat-up.

Isn't the actual definition of High-rise something like 25 - 50 stories?

[Dilaz89]

the definition is 12 levels/35m according to emporis.

BTW that WABN article is incorrect. Amendment 458 allows for 12st east of W Coast hwy.

[urbanwriter]

It's not quite incorrect. While it is mostly east of WCHwy, it's also on the western side of it at the very north and south of the SEAS area (it wraps around 457)... and then it goes either side of Scarb Beach Road for some distance as well. It is hard to find a simple way to describe it for newspaper purposes.

[docker]

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8122/image003uk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Skyline Art]

if people are worried about "heights overshaddowing the foreshore" beaches etc, why not build these buildings further away from the beach. The rest of the complainers should move. :lol: If people want Cottesloe to be different to another beach. I.e. more vibrancy then the residents should just allow taller buildings regardless, as currently most beaches have nothing but mcmansions and nothing too outstanding there other than some parkland feature or heritage icon which isn't all that big.

:lol: i don't know if i am making sense, but my point is, Vibrancy and redevlopment = $ but in order to attract $ you need to have viable buildings. And the only way to get viable buildings is to get value for the dollar.
Another way around this would be only in a parrel universe atm, where there is no currency system and people just continue to allow buildings of 2-3 storeys which equal No change of the area. Then what would the point be of redevelopment as all that is there would be no change, just newer 2-3 story buildings. :bash:

[Scraperfan]

This is the preferred taller design for the OBH site in cottesloe, with a rebuild and refurbishment of the original hotel.

Stunning. Who can we lobby about this?

http://www.thewest.com.au//contentversion/-1515766334/images/cott.jpg

[TRS-80]

Council approves $172,000 pylon reprieve

COTTESLOE'S iconic ocean pylon will be restored at a cost of $172,000 after a public campaign convinced a reluctant council it was worth saving.
The council, which faced a community backlash for suggesting the decaying 1930s concrete pylon should be removed, last night voted to save the heritage-listed structure.

Decades of battering by the ocean has taken its toll on the pylon, which some councillors fear is now a danger to swimmers.

The council has agreed to set aside $122,000 from a Federal grant and $50,000 from Lotterywest to carry out restoration work.

The pylon was built to anchor a shark net following a fatal attack in 1925.

It has become a popular diving platform for beach users, many of whom lobbied the council to retain the structure.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24807990-2761,00.html

[ryan79]

Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!

What about the god dam hospitals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WAuzzie]

i think its horrible. that can buy some1 a house but no they need to spend that much on a peace of metal concreted into cement. ffs

[Sanj]

how can u compare a councils budget with the fact that it could buy someone a house? if u did that u could compare lots of things with the fact that it could buy someone a house.

like the council said, they had no other pressing matters, plus there was very strong support for it from the ratepayers so i can see why they decided to go down this route.

[WAuzzie]

wtf costs so much tho... concrete ... iron ? fuk ... they can build a child care centre or something for that much. if they want a jumping of platform get it ...

[acc521]

Well let's not save anything because the money could always be spent on housing, hospitals etc.

[WAuzzie]

save what ffs ... its a giant bullet in concrete ... think of the great anything that 177k could build, make, buy ... a giant flower, penis, donkey anything say on the beach ... more iconic then the 'bullet'

[acc521]

Given that it's heritage listed and clearly means a lot to many people in the area is, I would think, indicitive of the value of its preservation.

I can imagine when any one of our great buildings was knocked down - why would anyone want to keep it. It's old, run down, dangerous and expensive to repair. Why bother?

Awesome logic as always Goran.

[ryan79]

Well I wanted Cinema City saved and PEC and they are more worthy than this.

Anyway, they could replace it with something better but otherwise I don't see a problem with saving it. But seriously, what costs so much?

[WAuzzie]

well acc i dunno of any suburb who was pro anything ... course the nimbys wanna keep it ... they wouldnt change anything if it was up to them ..

its stupid. esp in the times we're in now. 177k on something so small and plain. buildings atleast have history, character, architecture etc .. this has nothing, besides being old.

[Sanj]

Well I wanted Cinema City saved and PEC and they are more worthy than this.

Anyway, they could replace it with something better but otherwise I don't see a problem with saving it. But seriously, what costs so much?

i do agree it seems like a lot and i was shocked to hear it would cost that much but then again i know nothing about it and we can only assume that is what it really costs. cinema city and pec or anything else like that are completely irrelevant as this is money the cott council has to spend in cott. other stuff doesnt concern them, nor should it.

well acc i dunno of any suburb who was pro anything ... course the nimbys wanna keep it ... they wouldnt change anything if it was up to them ..

its stupid. esp in the times we're in now. 177k on something so small and plain. buildings atleast have history, character, architecture etc .. this has nothing, besides being old.


in you opinion. i have no attachment to this either and frankly dont care what happens to it but its obvious that a lot of ppl do and at the end of the day the council is there to also represent the ratepayers.

u complain about nimbys goran but u are every bit as bad as them when it comes to only caring about what u want, thinking u know everything, not willing to concede points, not even wanting to listen to opposing points of view and the reasons for them etc.

u are just like a nimby, only u just happen to be on the other side of the fence.

[ryan79]

i do agree it seems like a lot and i was shocked to hear it would cost that much but then again i know nothing about it and we can only assume that is what it really costs. cinema city and pec or anything else like that are completely irrelevant as this is money the cott council has to spend in cott. other stuff doesnt concern them, nor should it.


I know, just like any opportunity to bring it up.

Nah point was everyone has things they want saved for various reasons and considering I wanted those things saved and everyone thought it was stupid its not for me to think its stupid about the concrete pile at Cott.

[Sanj]

ah ok yeah i get u now.

[Scraperfan]

.. this has nothing, besides being old.

and that right there is your answer. old is priceless, cos theres only one way to get that... being around for a long time.

not even a billian dollars can buy 85 years of history.

its inspiring to think soldiers who came back from world war one looked out on the beach and saw this thing.

[acc521]

^^That feeling is one of the most important things about protecting heritage - looking at something, a view, a landscape and knowing that someone standing where you are 100, 200, 500 years ago etc was seeing the exact same thing is great.

[WAuzzie]

oh my gawd sf .... old is not always good! that beautiful 'greater union' (the blue one) will soon be that old doesnt mean we should preserve it forever cos its old and " all those ww2 ppl and anzac day ppl have marched past it ever year" or wateva. its nothing but old! not enough of a reason to spend that much money (on a SHORT TERM fix too!)

there are people out there who need operations that cost way less but nooo ... council wont spend that money to save a life .. cos a life isnt worst as much as a giant bullet in a peace of concrete that ppl use to jump of .. pfft!

[Scraperfan]

its just a different context... a place like cottesloe is held in the hearts of so many.

a cinema complex in the city just isnt as romantic. its just the way people are goran.

its also unique. its the only one of its kind.

its basically the opera house of cottesloe beach. im sure in 20 years, this decision will be judged well.

the pylon is coming up to its 100th birthday, im sure it will be further refurbished at that time. they should put a flagpole and an aussie flag on it as well as solar power flood lights.

[jackso]

oh my gawd sf .... old is not always good! that beautiful 'greater union' (the blue one) will soon be that old doesnt mean we should preserve it forever cos its old and " all those ww2 ppl and anzac day ppl have marched past it ever year" or wateva. its nothing but old! not enough of a reason to spend that much money (on a SHORT TERM fix too!)

there are people out there who need operations that cost way less but nooo ... council wont spend that money to save a life .. cos a life isnt worst as much as a giant bullet in a peace of concrete that ppl use to jump of .. pfft!

Goran your comments are ridiculous. Why dont you email Lisa adn ask her to cancel next years pride festival and instead use the money on people 'who need operations that cost way less'. Im sure what they spend on the festival could buy a house too.
You are being so ignorant. Just because you do not apreciate one thing it doesnt mean it isnt important to thousands of other people who have memories of Cottesloe Beach.
You said that buildings at least have hitory and character. Any this doesnt? This one pylon has more history and character than most of the buildings in the entire city!

[WAuzzie]

what the hell can a pylon do?

the parade is a celibration, a protest, its for a fucking cause.
this things sole purpose is for ppl to jump of, that is it!

im trying to, but cant think of a historic importance .. besides simply having been there for a long time! most forests in the country have been there as long as the country has existed yet they get cut dowm .. some things just arent important to keep, esp spend $$ to prolong.
im sure the ppl of cottesloe can think of something else they need more then a restored metal penis in the water.

[Ipggi]

what the hell can a pylon do?

the parade is a celibration, a protest, its for a fucking cause.
this things sole purpose is for ppl to jump of, that is it!

im trying to, but cant think of a historic importance .. besides simply having been there for a long time! most forests in the country have been there as long as the country has existed yet they get cut dowm .. some things just arent important to keep, esp spend $$ to prolong.
im sure the ppl of cottesloe can think of something else they need more then a restored metal penis in the water.

I personally think the whole pylon issue is a bit of a wank to he honest. Specially considering the original wooden pylon was replaced over a decade ago with a concrete one. But to answer your question of the historic significance ...

The pylons origins date back to 1925, when Simon Ettelson died after being attacked by a shark while swimming at Cottesloe. In 1934 the Cottesloe Council decided to enclose the main swimming beach in a shark proof net.

Two pylons were built, an identical pylon to the existing one was built against a long jetty that ran out from the foot of Forrest Street. The masts were light poles, designed to light the pool for night swimming.

But things went wrong during construction of the enclosure. Winter storms in 1936 carried away the "twin" to the existing pylon off the foot of John Street, as well as wooden "dolphins" sunk into the reef and the project was abandoned.

The jetty was blown up in the 1950's, and the pylon off John Street remained as the sole remnant of the ill fated project. It was diminished in size during the 1995 storm. Cottesloe council replaced the pylon in 1996 with a new concrete mast.
http://www.swannysurfclub.iinet.net.au/members/photos/pylon/Pylonhistory.htm

[ryan79]

Well thats stupid then. Replace it with a proper platform then otherwise whats the point?

[Sanj]

like i said, i dont see the big deal with regards to why these should fix this, but at the end of the day if this is what the ratepayers and the council want, then they have every right to do so.

the cash they received didnt come with any strings attached so even if it was decided by the ratepayers and the council that they wanted to spend it fixing a pylon with absolutely no historical significance, i have no issue with it because ultimately councils are there to represent what the ratepayers want as well. it is their money, they can do what they want with it.

of course if they cry poor later on about something else i wouldnt have much sympathy as they chose to spend it on this, but at the end of the day, if a they are spending their own cash, in accordance to what the ppl there want, i have no issue

[Ipggi]

Cevue Scarborough, 22-Dec
http://www.cevue.com.au/

http://www.defacto2.net/x/cbsc.jpg

[Sanj]

i like the floorplans for cevue. quite similar to the ones for 18 the esplanade.

[Scraperfan]

the floor plans are excellent. like houses in te sky, i like all the cool corridors and turns. very imaginative.

[aaronaugi1]

I drive past/around the Cevue site almost every day. It is coming together well.

I'm very surprised how close it sits to West Coast Highway. There is going to be very limited pedistrian space on that side of the road.

I can't wait till they tear down sandcastles and the luna centre and do something productive, Coogee (Sydney) or Cavill Ave (GC) like.

[Phoenix_1]

I drive past/around the Cevue site almost every day. It is coming together well.

I'm very surprised how close it sits to West Coast Highway. There is going to be very limited pedistrian space on that side of the road.

I can't wait till they tear down sandcastles and the luna centre and do something productive, Coogee (Sydney) or Cavill Ave (GC) like.

Don't forget the White Sands as well.

[aaronaugi1]

Don't forget the White Sands as well.

The White Sands site has been cleverly included in Scarborough special beachfront planning area. Its such a huge site and has a lot of potential.

[Skyline Art]

^^ Cevue, from that photo it looks like this is a tilt and lift up concrete prefab job or what ever you call it... where they are just putting up the walls? If so this would be moving quite quickly than the convenctional bricky job or cement pours in?

[Phoenix_1]

The White Sands site has been cleverly included in Scarborough special beachfront planning area. Its such a huge site and has a lot of potential.
Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing Scarborough in 10 years time. Oh wait, this is Perth, it will be exactly the same.

^^ Cevue, from that photo it looks like this is a tilt and lift up concrete prefab job or what ever you call it... where they are just putting up the walls? If so this would be moving quite quickly than the convenctional bricky job or cement pours in?

Depends on what they are doing for the interior walls. I'm working on a similar appartment project at the moment that is using precast wall for all exterior surfaces and and insitu concrete wall for the interior walls. But if it is all precast then you are right, it should be pretty quick.

[aaronaugi1]

^^ Cevue, from that photo it looks like this is a tilt and lift up concrete prefab job or what ever you call it... where they are just putting up the walls? If so this would be moving quite quickly than the convenctional bricky job or cement pours in?

Don't worry, the insides are all poured cement and the West Coast Highway/Brighton Road sides of the development are all bricked or poured concrete too.

It is only the facade facing the ocean (the angle the photo is taken from) which has the pre-fab slab walls.... so far.

Its going up quite quickly though.

[Phoenix_1]

Don't worry, the insides are all poured cement and the West Coast Highway/Brighton Road sides of the development are all bricked or poured concrete too.

It is only the facade facing the ocean (the angle the photo is taken from) which has the pre-fab slab walls.... so far.

Its going up quite quickly though.

I walked past today on the way back from the beach and the front wall on W.C.H. is up and is precast as well.

[aaronaugi1]

I walked past today on the way back from the beach and the front wall on W.C.H. is up and is precast as well.

Only the first floor?