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docker
September 28th, 2008, 05:30 AM
old thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=502451



THE SPRINGS, RIVERVALE
http://www.landcorp.com.au/portal/page?_pageid=953,1&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

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Sparkling alongside the water playground of the Swan River The Springs, Rivervale will offer inner city living, featuring both residential, commercial and mixed-use choice and diversity.

This significant urban development will offer a colourful and pleasant backdrop to the buzz of river and parkland activity. While the Great Eastern Highway boundary will provide for a variety of commercial and mixed use activities.

There will be a range of building heights and housing types, with taller buildings associated with higher density living located predominantly along the Graham Farmer Freeway and Great Eastern Highway boundaries. Medium and lower density living in the central areas will also provide interesting and attractive streetscapes while maintaining the intimacy of the area.

By reducing traffic along Hawksburn Road, it is proposed to create a pleasant link through the heart of The Springs to Cracknell Park and the Swan River foreshore.

Easy access to walking and cycling paths will connect The Springs residents with the city and the Swan River. Catching a train or a bus will be easy, with major transport routes and the Burswood train station close by.

There will be a range of building heights and housing types, with taller buildings associated with higher density living located predominantly along the Graham Farmer Freeway and Great Eastern Highway boundaries. Lower density living towards the river will also provide interesting and attractive streetscapes while maintaining the intimacy of the area.

The draft structure plan and design guidelines propose building heights will vary from two to six storeys along Riversdale Road, up to four storeys for much of the internal area of the precinct and up to six storeys for the commercial mixed-use area along Great Eastern Highway. The landmark site on the corner of Graham Farmer Freeway and Great Eastern Highway has potential for up to 18 storeys. Apartments along the Graham Farmer Freeway can be up to nine storeys high.

The Springs is still in the planning phase of development and land is expected to be released to the developer market from 2008, depending on planning approval timeframes. There will be an ongoing development program over the following five years. Private landowners will develop their land within their own schedules.

The draft structure plan was submitted to the City of Belmont in May 2006. Following the City’s assessment of the plan, public comment will be sought during the statutory advertising period which is expected in early 2007. The draft structure plan and supporting built form guidelines will ensure quality development and design solutions.

To help achieve a coordinated approach to redevelopment of the area, the existing roads, services and streetscapes will be upgraded. It is proposed the landowners within The Springs development area will contribute to the cost of these improvements. This will be enabled through a landowner contribution scheme.

A Town Planning Scheme (TPS) amendment will provide the framework for administration of landowner contributions, with a separate schedule for infrastructure upgrades and improvements specific to The Springs. The draft TPS amendment, which includes the contribution plan for landowners within The Springs, was submitted to the City of Belmont in June 2006.



China Green (Subiaco Redevelopment)
http://www.sra.wa.gov.au/subicentro
http://www.chinagreen.com.au/ChinaGreen/
Community comment sought on ground-breaking China Green plans
12/12/07

Plans for a sustainable mixed-use development that will house up to 600 residents and deliver commercial space for about 2,800 workers in Subiaco are available for public comment.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the China Green development was set to transform the historic 4.2ha Australian Fine China site into a modern community utilising advanced energy and water-saving design.

“China Green responds to the increasing demand for more sustainable office and residential developments close to public transport, the services of Subiaco and strong cycle and pedestrian networks,” Ms MacTiernan said.

“As well as providing affordable housing, China Green capitalises on an increasing demand in Perth for more compact housing and single person dwellings.

“The State Government’s Subiaco developments have been leading the way in providing real housing choice in this increasingly bustling city.”

The project will be measured against 56 sustainability objectives jointly developed by the Subiaco Redevelopment Authority and City of Subiaco relating to social, environmental and economic outcomes, with a particular focus on solar orientation and targets for reducing energy and water usage.

Other key features of China Green include:

* a residential and commercial development based around Transit Oriented Development principles;

* buildings facing north to capture winter sun, avoid summer heat and provide central open space for passive surveillance to improve security;

* a central open space that will link Jolimont’s Daglish Park to the south of the site with Subiaco Common in the north;

* planning which prioritises pedestrian movement above cars.

The Minister said the unique heritage of the Australian Fine China Site would be interpreted through a range of initiatives, including the naming of streets, public art and design guidelines which required an industrial aesthetic.

Subiaco Mayor Heather Henderson said the China Green development would make a major contribution to the local community, with planning for the site complementing the existing diverse social fabric of the city.

“It is important that China Green provides new connections with the surrounding community linking the redevelopment precinct with existing commercial areas and public spaces,” Mayor Henderson said.



East Perth Redevelopment
this includes: http://www.epra.wa.gov.au/index.php
Creative Quarter
The New Northbridge
Claisebrook Cove
The Link (It's Own Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=621413))

Power Station Redevelopment
http://www.eastperthpowerstation.com.au/eastperthpowerstation/

THE East Perth Power Station is to get the ultimate makeover - from ugly ducking to cultural icon.

A tour of the spacious interior yesterday revealed its potential, with soaring cathedral ceilings and rays of sunlight filtering in from newly installed windows with river views.

"You can't build this kind of space these days,'' outgoing WA Museum chief executive Dawn Casey said.

Admitting it was love at first sight, Ms Casey said she jumped at the chance to move the museum's main home from Northbridge to the disused East Perth site.

With a sprawling interior of 25,000sqm, she said the extra space would allow the museum to show off its large exhibits, such as the ever-popular blue whale and Australian megafauna - extinct large mammals that once roamed WA.

Other possibilities included an Aboriginal heritage trail along the river forshore and archaeological digs in the power station's expansive 8.5ha grounds.

Some of the power station's pumps and boilers will be retained to show the history of power generation in Perth, when the station generated the city's electricity from 1917 to 1981.

On Friday, Premier Alan Carpenter announced the massive $500million transformation of the site, as well as the decision to build a $1.1billion sports stadium at Kitchener Park in Subiaco.

Once completed in 2015, the new museum would be a major tourist drawcard for Perth, said Minister for Tourism and Culture and the Arts Sheila McHale, who led media on a tour of the power station yesterday.

"Just like the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney and the Tate Modern in London, which were both built from former power stations, WA's museum will become an iconic cultural attraction for all visitors,'' she said.

The redevelopment includes plans to open a cafe and restaurant overlooking the river, with a ferry service to bring visitors to the front door.

The exterior walls have already been repaired and painted and will be shown off with floodlights switched on from this weekend.

Mr Carpenter said the new museum would be "a huge contributor to our state and our cultural life''.
"It'll be a showcase for the amazing stories of West Australians, our indigenous people and rich Aboriginal culture, sporting greats, rural families and leaders across our community,'' he said.

Ms McHale would not be drawn on exact plans for the existing museum site near the WA State Library and the Art Gallery in Northbridge.

But she said there was a need for more night-time use of the buildings in the cultural precinct.



Midland Urban Renewal
http://www.mra.wa.gov.au/

CLEAN-UP MOVES TO RAIL FORECOURT

The large clean-up of the former Railway Workshops has moved to the forecourt at the
entrance to the site.

Midland Redevelopment Authority CEO Kieran Kinsella said that most of the trains that
had been parked on the forecourt for some time had been relocated, clearing the way for
work to begin.

"In the heyday of the Workshops, the forecourt was where workers gathered to celebrate
major events and discuss industrial matters," Mr Kinsella said. "Our plans will restore it
as central Midland's main square, a place where residents, workers and visitors meet
and where large community events are held."

The forecourt is the large open area behind the Peace Memorial and the adjacent Chief
Mechanical Engineer's building. It was the former shunting yard for the Workshops.

Mr Kinsella said that the forecourt stage of the remediation involved demolishing minor
buildings, removing some railway lines, excavating unsuitable soil and replacing it with
clean fill, and relocating services. It was expected to take about six weeks, and would be
followed by subdivision and landscaping works for the first Workshops apartment and
terrace home sites.

Work on the clean-up began in August last year and the first stage was expected to be
completed by the end of April.

"The contractor will make every effort to minimise disruption to site tenants and
employees. This will include doing specific sections of the remediation at weekends to
ensure continued access to the buildings," Mr Kinsella said.

"Stringent dust, noise and vibration suppression measures will be taken and dust and air
monitoring stations set up to ensure air quality complies with public health standards.
The stations are monitored constantly to allow amendments to the work schedule if
necessary, for example due to extreme weather conditions."

Mr Kinsella said that the remediation was preparing the Workshops for more residential,
commercial and community facilities. The environmental cleanup of the site to allow new
uses of the land was the main reason the WA Government established the MRA in 2000.

People who have any questions or concerns about the remediation should call the
MRA's community feedback line (1800 224 552). The line was monitored 24 hours a
day, seven days a week, and queries answered within 24 hours.

A fact sheet on the remediation is available by calling the MRA on 9374 5500.

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Fremantle Harbour
Includes: http://www.fremantleports.com.au/CommercialProperty/index.asp
Fishermans Harbour
North Quay
Outer Harbour
Philmore Street Intergration

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Murdoch Activity Centre
http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cityregionalplanning/13999.asp

The Structure Plan has been developed for the Murdoch Activity Centre – an area bounded by Farrington Road, South Street, Kwinana Freeway, and Murdoch Drive and the Murdoch University campus in Murdoch.

The Structure Plan will guide the future development of the Murdoch Activity Centre – and ultimately determine the most appropriate subdivision of land – so the Department of Health can develop the Fiona Stanley Hospital and related health facilities.

The document has been prepared for the Department of Health and Department for Planning and Infrastructure by consultants GHD Pty Ltd, with input from a broad range of government and private stakeholders.

It proposes to establish several major land holdings for the purpose of public health, private health, education and residential and commercial development, and considers road networks, services, environmental issues, and transit oriented development.

The Structure Plan also identifies a mixed-use residential and commercial precinct adjacent to the Murdoch rail station and the South Street bus interchange – LandCorp is expected to facilitate the release of development opportunities within the mixed-use residential and commercial precinct in the second half of 2006.


Ashfield precinct plan
http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cityregionalplanning/19565.asp

Planning for a major activity centre around Ashfield train station is being investigated as part of the Maylands-Guildford activity corridor project, a Network City demonstration project.
GHD have been commissioned by the Department to produce the Ashfield precinct plan.

The project will involve the preparation of a precinct plan for the Ashfield Train Station precinct and a strategic implementation guide that will enable stakeholders to make informed decisions about the future use of land within and adjacent and connected to the study area. This will include an economic analysis of the study area, identification of the opportunities and constraints and wider regional issues, analysis of urban design, land use intensity and mix issues and investigation of the movement network and possible improvements.


Armadale Redevelopment
http://www.landcorp.com.au/portal/page?_pageid=89,1&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

The Armadale Redevelopment Authority (ARA) was established under the Armadale Redevelopment Act 2001 and began operations on 23 March 2002. Its' task is to plan, undertake, promote and coordinate the development and redevelopment of land in the ARA redevelopment areas.

The ARA has the power to deal in land and other assets, and to undertake works in the redevelopment areas.

The Redevelopment Scheme contains the statutory planning provisions for the redevelopment areas.

The revitalisation of Armadale-Kelmscott is one of Western Australia’s largest and most ambitious urban renewal projects.

acc521
September 28th, 2008, 09:12 AM
What's the status on China Green? There was all the fuss earlier this year with those people complaining but nothing seems to have moved on/been resolved since then.

aaronaugi1
September 28th, 2008, 09:27 AM
What's the status on China Green? There was all the fuss earlier this year with those people complaining but nothing seems to have moved on/been resolved since then.

Waiting for Lords to shut down i believe. Its been in the "shutting down" process for a while now. As far as i know theres still basketball, volleyball etc on almost every night.

Cygnet
September 28th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Waiting for Lords to shut down i believe. Its been in the "shutting down" process for a while now. As far as i know theres still basketball, volleyball etc on almost every night.
China Green does not include the Lords site.

Last I heard, Subi residents and/or the council were threatening to take legal action against the Government to have the plans scaled back... I'd say that's still going on.

Johnvb
September 28th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Correct, local residents formed an action group against it. Lords closes on 28th of December this year

TRS-80
September 30th, 2008, 04:10 AM
Should the Vic Park causeway precinct (http://www.vicpark.ws/promotion_news/index.cfm?link=609) and the Bentley Technology precinct (http://www.communityofminds.com.au/) be in this thread?

docker
September 30th, 2008, 04:17 AM
if it doesn't have it's own thread it can be in here... i just couldn't be bothered naming everything, i just brought over information on some of the bigger projects...

so yes

docker
October 19th, 2008, 03:00 PM
China Green
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Dilaz89
October 23rd, 2008, 05:27 AM
Calls for upgrade of ‘dangerous’ public space

23rd October 2008, 6:00 WST









The cultural centre in Northbridge was a dangerous and failed public space which should be upgraded urgently to improve safety and vibrancy, organisations and community groups said yesterday.

Reopening James Street between William and Beaufort streets and introducing small bars, cafes, a university and artists’ studios have been flagged as ways to reinvigorate the area. The calls to fast-track redevelopment come on the back of doubts the WA Museum will be moved and the warning from new Art Gallery of WA director Stefano Carboni that the gallery was “a fortress” and needed to be more inviting.

BLOG: Does Northbridge need attention?

Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the area had been “left to languish” and an interim upgrade including new lighting features, street furniture and improved markets was needed while the new Government decided its long-term plans, including the museum’s location. “Given the imminent opening of the new theatre, it is also timely to discuss this area now and plan for it so we have a schedule of works that should synchronise with the opening of the theatre and not work against it,” she said.

East Perth Redevelopment Authority chief executive Tony Morgan said master planning for the precinct was expected to begin next year.

CityVision chairman Ken Adam said consultants had repeatedly failed to come up with solutions to make the area successful. Institutional buildings created a “monoculture” and a variety of arts-aligned uses such as artists’ studios and student accommodation could be introduced to add diversity. FuturePerth chairman Sean Morrison said there needed to be more commercial space for cafes, boutiques and small bars and reopening James Street would “bring life to a very dangerous part of the city”.

But Business Improvement Group Northbridge chairman Paul Afkos said the area had enough cafes, bars and restaurants on its doorstep and better use should be made of the cultural precinct for regular events such as busking, parades and markets.

Planning Minister John Day said he was not convinced James Street should be reopened but was open to introducing cafes, small bars and lighting.

DANIEL HATCH

ryan79
October 23rd, 2008, 05:42 AM
Calls for upgrade of ‘dangerous’ public space

23rd October 2008, 6:00 WST









The cultural centre in Northbridge was a dangerous and failed public space which should be upgraded urgently to improve safety and vibrancy, organisations and community groups said yesterday.

Reopening James Street between William and Beaufort streets and introducing small bars, cafes, a university and artists’ studios have been flagged as ways to reinvigorate the area. The calls to fast-track redevelopment come on the back of doubts the WA Museum will be moved and the warning from new Art Gallery of WA director Stefano Carboni that the gallery was “a fortress” and needed to be more inviting.

BLOG: Does Northbridge need attention?

Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the area had been “left to languish” and an interim upgrade including new lighting features, street furniture and improved markets was needed while the new Government decided its long-term plans, including the museum’s location. “Given the imminent opening of the new theatre, it is also timely to discuss this area now and plan for it so we have a schedule of works that should synchronise with the opening of the theatre and not work against it,” she said.

East Perth Redevelopment Authority chief executive Tony Morgan said master planning for the precinct was expected to begin next year.

CityVision chairman Ken Adam said consultants had repeatedly failed to come up with solutions to make the area successful. Institutional buildings created a “monoculture” and a variety of arts-aligned uses such as artists’ studios and student accommodation could be introduced to add diversity. FuturePerth chairman Sean Morrison said there needed to be more commercial space for cafes, boutiques and small bars and reopening James Street would “bring life to a very dangerous part of the city”.

But Business Improvement Group Northbridge chairman Paul Afkos said the area had enough cafes, bars and restaurants on its doorstep and better use should be made of the cultural precinct for regular events such as busking, parades and markets.

Planning Minister John Day said he was not convinced James Street should be reopened but was open to introducing cafes, small bars and lighting.

DANIEL HATCH

Both. Except for re-opening James st. Don't see the need.

perthgazer
October 23rd, 2008, 05:54 AM
Enough cafes and bars and restaurants? sounds like someone doesn't want competition.

ryan79
October 23rd, 2008, 05:59 AM
Thats what I first thought. Typical anti-competitive rant.

Next IGA will be in there whinging that 10 customers are in the area on a Sunday when they could be shopping at IGA.

Bump
October 23rd, 2008, 06:19 AM
Yeah, don't open the street to cars. Just more diversity in terms of bars, cafes, markets, etc...

crave
October 23rd, 2008, 06:29 AM
definitely no to reopening of tha street...

Dilaz89
October 23rd, 2008, 07:21 AM
I actually support reopening james street. Pedestrian malls like this don't work properly without an intensity of uses at all hours of the day which creates problems of dead space at night.

aaronaugi1
October 23rd, 2008, 07:24 AM
Enough cafes and bars and restaurants? sounds like someone doesn't want competition.

if someone is willing to open a business there then there is obviously not "too many".

crave
October 23rd, 2008, 07:54 AM
I actually support reopening james street. Pedestrian malls like this don't work properly without an intensity of uses at all hours of the day which creates problems of dead space at night.

know what? you're probably right... i just don't wanna see bogans given an extra 300m to "roll" with their wheels on...


:p

Bump
October 23rd, 2008, 08:06 AM
It's in a great location with great connections to Perth Train Station. Murray Street Mall doesn't get used effectively at night either. Murray Street however, has the daytime retail component which brings in a lot of people that James Street doesn't.

Dilaz89
October 23rd, 2008, 08:30 AM
Yeah, the intense retail component of the malls is thier only saving grace really. It would be nice is more after hours uses such as cafes, bars and cinemas opened up in the malls and light rail down Murray Street mall wouldn't go astray either.

Auxodium
October 23rd, 2008, 09:09 AM
Enough cafes and bars and restaurants? sounds like someone doesn't want competition.

Afkos is a liberal numpty who stuffed up Perth Glory in the NSL era... plus his sone is a shit football player who missed the penalty to make us lose the 2000 grand final :lol: :bash:

Scraperfan
October 23rd, 2008, 09:39 AM
I actually support reopening james street. Pedestrian malls like this don't work properly without an intensity of uses at all hours of the day which creates problems of dead space at night.

i fear for my life every time i walk from perth central to the court.

you have to first get past the train statio entry, then the james street mall is full of "undesirables".

why must they make so much noise and yell?

acc521
October 23rd, 2008, 09:43 AM
You mean Murray St Mall right? It will be great to have some life injected into that area. At the moment anything East of William Street is shite after dark. It will be interesting to see if the new Exomod opens up 24 hours given where it is. It could encourage a bit more foot traffic through the mall and make the area safer.

Scraperfan
October 23rd, 2008, 09:45 AM
no i dont mean murray street at all. thats fine with the new lighting, cafe and station thats open all hours.

i mean the paved area of james street, proposed for re-opening. i just called it a mall cos its paved.

acc521
October 23rd, 2008, 09:48 AM
Oh, the Aboriginal domestic argument centre and fight club!

Other areas, such as Murray St mall at night make me feel a more aware of my surroundings and annoyed at dickheads but yes, the James St "cultural centre" area is the one place in Perth that I can genuinely say I have felt unsafe.

Scraperfan
October 23rd, 2008, 09:50 AM
exactly. :)

ryan79
October 23rd, 2008, 11:42 AM
I actually support reopening james street. Pedestrian malls like this don't work properly without an intensity of uses at all hours of the day which creates problems of dead space at night.

Thats really only true of Perth. Lots of cities have grand civic spaces without these issues.

I say make it vibrant and keep it closed off.

Sanj
October 23rd, 2008, 12:15 PM
i fear for my life every time i walk from perth central to the court.

you have to first get past the train statio entry, then the james street mall is full of "undesirables".

why must they make so much noise and yell?

undesirables, noise, yelling - u sure u arent talking about the scene that greets u @ the court not on the way there?

:lol:

Cygnet
October 23rd, 2008, 01:12 PM
I actually support reopening james street. Pedestrian malls like this don't work properly without an intensity of uses at all hours of the day which creates problems of dead space at night.
Agreed. I actually thought about suggesting this to Sean over on the FP forum. Looks like I didn't need to. :)

Another major problem with the area is the monolithic, uninviting Alexander Library. We'll probably be stuck with that for decades, but with a bit of creativity, it might be possible to build some small, active buildings around it. Perhaps the north-south walkway (between Museum St and James St) could be activated this way?

Auxodium
October 23rd, 2008, 01:43 PM
malls work if the areas surrounding it are dead 90% of the time... this James St mall is the same

crave
October 23rd, 2008, 01:47 PM
that corner lot across tha road from tha court, used to be rick hart/myer megamart or whatever, should be knocked down and made into apartments...

actually no. fvckrz will have tha court shut down.

hiss.

aaronaugi1
October 23rd, 2008, 03:42 PM
that corner lot across tha road from tha court, used to be rick hart/myer megamart or whatever, should be knocked down and made into apartments...

actually no. fvckrz will have tha court shut down.

hiss.

relocation ?

acc521
October 23rd, 2008, 05:05 PM
You're not kidding crave. That Rick Hart/Merry's furniture building always annoys me when I walk past it. Such a blinding mistake and waste of space so recently made.

Perth4life
October 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM
wasn't it Myer Megamart?

I think what has shown since those new shops were placed on the Central Perth Station's concourse a few years ago, is that this rid's of undesirables, there is much less space to loiter.

acc521
October 23rd, 2008, 06:24 PM
^^When it first opened yes, but that was a failure for Coles Myer.

gotime
October 23rd, 2008, 08:01 PM
i think it's inevitable that we will see the art gallery carpark developed into an extension of the gallery... although that is definately years/decades away.

it would be nice for the pedestrian only mall to remain. it is one of the few civic square type places we have in the city. and the current photography exhibition only highlights just how busy the area can be. perhaps the older people in this forum will remember the watershed (the predecesor to the current beck's music box, previously the beck's verandah).

what i'd like to see is some development on the grassed area opposite the entry to the art gallery (i think this was previously suggested by crave) and perhaps some small market style tenancies surrounding the lifts to the art gallery car park. additionally if some more storage space could be provided for PICA, the fuel bar / PICA bar could reopen (i have friends who work for PICA and i know that the reason for its closure is to do with the availablity of space).

the anti-pyramid museum building has got to go as well. hopefully any development would create a stronger north-south axis from the station to museum street. perhaps with development on top of the current pond near the library entrance. it really would only take a couple of bars opening in this area to make a huge difference.

if you think about it, it's the perfect spot. no risk of noise complaints (only museums and art galleries as neighbours) and it definately pushes the pro-public transport, anti-drink driving agenda by being virtually above the main railway station.

Swan
October 23rd, 2008, 10:40 PM
i think its inevitable that we wont see much change to perth in the years to come. i've been waiting patiently 20 years and it still looks the same except for the additional migrants.

Auxodium
October 27th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Poor Scan... apologies

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dazzyd
October 27th, 2008, 03:02 PM
well i hope they look at the good and the bad of east perth!!.. good its a classy place. the bad. its a frikkin dead zone at night. just another upperclass suburb.

chrisaus
October 27th, 2008, 04:56 PM
I agree with opening up james street to traffic, its unsafe and dangerous and night, and it sterile, would deff add some life imo

NailZ
October 28th, 2008, 01:47 AM
Option #3 (which is the preferred option) certainly looks the best to me. Option #1 is very underwhelming.

If they really revamp East Pde they can start by redeveloping the East Perth rail terminal. Quite simply the most disgusting building in Perth I reckon.

Sanj
October 28th, 2008, 02:21 AM
i agree with that. terrible building.

east pde is a great target. superb location let down by a lot of run down homes etc. some of the ROWs in that area are just shocking

chrisaus
October 28th, 2008, 08:36 AM
While its great news, they should be targeting developments like these in the inner to middle suburbs and having some mid-rise developments so close to the core of the CBD.

gotime
October 28th, 2008, 09:32 AM
If they really revamp East Pde they can start by redeveloping the East Perth rail terminal. Quite simply the most disgusting building in Perth I reckon.

i'd chain myself to that building if it were to be knocked down

urbanwriter
October 28th, 2008, 09:38 AM
I'm with you.

Scrawny
October 28th, 2008, 12:35 PM
i'd chain myself to that building if it were to be knocked down

Are you serious? Can you explain why?

PerthCity
October 28th, 2008, 12:54 PM
I think it's a very distinctive building that should be protected. Not everything in Perth has to be some bland concrete box.

crave
October 28th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Are you serious? Can you explain why?

i'm with tha others on this one. i actually worked in this building when i was with dpi and if it was given a spit and polish, it's actually a nicely designed building... tha energy of tha building actually works.

when i would walk to tha building you'd go "what an ugly heap of sh*t", but when you get closer and closer to it, it commands attention and stands on its own right without asking to be accepted.

a refurb on east perth could do well with a mixture of contemporary material finishes that is asthetically sensitive to tha style...

city_thing
October 28th, 2008, 01:20 PM
I love the East Perth terminal, it just needs a striking new addition beside it to provide for better bus arrivals/departures and transperth train services.

The building is a real tribute to brutalist architecture and I love it. It's iconic and very interesting for an otherwise dull area.

aaronaugi1
October 28th, 2008, 01:56 PM
uuuuummmmmmmmm!

chrisaus
October 28th, 2008, 04:54 PM
new office building in the Midland renewal area

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http://www.realcommercial.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=depi&t=com&id=5459773&img=m&c=1053219&p=30&s=wa&snf=as&tm=1225205070

crave
October 29th, 2008, 12:24 AM
ooo where is this?

PD
October 29th, 2008, 02:27 AM
i'd chain myself to that building if it were to be knocked down

Im with you, that building is bold, striking and *dare I say it in perth* URBAN.
It lets you know you are still in the city.

I can see why people hat it 1) its brown 2) NASA have stuck a communications centre on top of it, BUT not everything has to be pastel coloured concrete. This is a true piece of art from our past.


If anything needs to be demolished it is the ugly apartments that were recently constructed next door.

ryan79
October 29th, 2008, 05:07 AM
Its such a cool building that just needs a clean.

The station probably needs expanding.

Everyone is so fast to tear down Perth buildings. CC, PEC now this.

Dilaz89
October 29th, 2008, 05:08 AM
Everyone hearts the terminal.

BTW those apartments next door are commish.

chrisaus
October 29th, 2008, 08:45 AM
http://www.stirling.wa.gov.au/home/council/Publications/City+of+Stirling+Draft+Strategic+Plan+2009-2012.htm

Perth4life
October 29th, 2008, 10:15 AM
dunno if this is old news, but just saw on ch 10 that Barney wants to keep the musuem at the cultural centre and not develop east perth.

city_thing
October 29th, 2008, 10:36 AM
I don't think that space where the current museum is has enough room for anything decent. Especially considering the heritage building....

Where's Gehry with a design and a catchline when you need him?

samboy
October 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Doesn't have to be BIG just clever.

Dilaz89
October 29th, 2008, 02:51 PM
ABC said only 5% of government owned artefacts are currently on show at the WA museum.

BartBart
October 29th, 2008, 03:04 PM
ABC said only 5% of government owned artefacts are currently on show at the WA museum.

I've heard that before too. I think I heard Barnett suggesting that people wouldn't be unhappy to see the existing museum building get demolished and be replaced.

Dilaz89
October 29th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Subi Centro plans released
Property: 30-October-08 by Emily Piesse


SUBIACO-BASED property syndicator Australasian Property Investments Pty Ltd has released the plans for its $150 million Subi Centro development on the former site of refrigeration company, Arcus Australia.

Plans for the development, which have been lodged with the Subiaco Redevelopment Authority, include five buildings with 100 apartments, townhouses and two-storey studio apartments with mezzanine lofts.

About 10,000 square metres of office space will also be built, along with a 600sqm focal building with an open-air rooftop cinema, cafe and ground floor retail area.

API is also in discussions with the University of Western Australia to create an artist-in-residence program within the development, which would use a charitable foundation to provide affordable housing for students.

The fund, which is expected to be a one-off payment of about $750,000, would support the lease of five studio apartments for at least five years, according to API's economic modelling.

API director Adam Zorzi said the aim of the residence program was to get a diverse range of people living in the complex.

"What we propose is that the university create a foundation that we then contribute money to, including our [public] art contributions," he said.

"That foundation can then use the funds to subsidise rents in the development. We'll sell the apartments and studio units to investors, who can then sign long-term leases with the foundation."

Mr Zorzi said the accommodation would cater for a range of students, including post-graduates, across disciplines such as architecture, landscape architecture, creative writing and art.

In total, 30 per cent of the 10,000sqm site will be publicly accessible space.

Called the ARCUS quarter, the project is slated for completion in late 2011.

Elsewhere in Subi Centro, the ongoing standoff between the City of Subiaco and the Subiaco Redevelopment Authority (SRA) over the China Green site is yet to be resolved.

A redevelopment of the area has been on hold since a stalemate developed earlier this year between the two organisations, with the city opposed to the height and scale of buildings in the plans for the four-hectare site.

City of Subiaco Mayor Heather Henderson said the city was waiting to schedule a meeting with new Planning Minister John Day to resolve the issue

acc521
October 29th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Great news about the artists in residence programme.

chrisaus
October 29th, 2008, 03:45 PM
Perth cannot remain a city divided

October 29, 2008

Premier Colin Barnett reckons the sinking of the railway line between the Perth Central Business District and Northbridge has been 100 years in the waiting.

Even if he's stretching the statistics, it feels like a century of procrastination.

When I moved to Perth almost 40 years ago it was an issue crying out for action.

Since then it has become living proof that WA stands for "wait awhile".

How could any city claiming to be a serious contender for metropolis status have allowed this blight - a rusty scar on the landscape - to remain on view for so long?

Critics looking for ammunition to label Perth "hicksville" have only needed to point locals to this brown barrier that has divided the business and entertainment precincts.

Take a stroll from the Swan River north and there is an obvious decline in the standard of buildings until you cross the footbridge over the railway lines to Northbridge, a hotch-potch of garishly renovated premises that after midnight turns into a haven for street gangs, drunks, druggies and scared citizens trying to avoid being bashed and robbed.

The railway has disconnected the city from Northbridge, which has degenerated into a community embarrassment.

Successive state governments and the City of Perth are guilty of misleading the electorate over what is trendily called the "Northbridge Link".

Opposition Leader Eric Ripper has a hide criticising the current Government for giving it first priority in a list of projects it wants the Rudd Government to co-fund, after his government failed to turn a sod on the project during eight years in office.

Assuming Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is as good as his promise to back major state infrastructure projects, there is no reason why the sinking of Perth's worst eyesore should not start immediately the funds are available.

To delay it any longer would confirm WA's capital city and its government are both jokes.

Howard Satler

acc521
October 29th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Well if Howard Sattler is on side then you know all of the 6PR listeners will be on side as well.

perthgazer
October 29th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Pfft Howard Satler is one the reasons this place is called hicksville

since when did he become progressive?

chrisaus
October 29th, 2008, 04:00 PM
though I dont always agree with him i respect him because he is pretty fucking powerfull, when he campaynes for something alot of the times it actually happens. peter natrass refused to go on his show because he would get hammered.

acc521
October 29th, 2008, 04:03 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with you Sean (do you want to be called Sean or Perthgazer on here?). He very much takes whatever viewpoint he thinks either (a) the public supports or (b) will generate the most heated argument. Who knows what his personal stance is on anything really.

Doesn't change the fact that he's the kind of person you do want talking up such a project.

aaronaugi1
October 29th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Pfft Howard Satler is one the reasons this place is called hicksville

since when did he become progressive?

i find him to be a balance of progress on certain issues then highly conservative on the other. He's someone whos always middle ground for everyone across the issues; hence his success.

perthgazer
October 29th, 2008, 04:14 PM
thinking about it your actually right, he is generally pro development, but still way too socially conservative for me. Too much what-about-the-pensioners stuff

aaronaugi1
October 29th, 2008, 04:21 PM
i'm sure if teenagers widely listened to 6PR ("tallllkkkinngg Pppeeerrrttthhh!") then he'd be less socially conservative. He's got to appeal to his audience, yet manages to slip in a few less liberal comments. I guess hes bound by that.

Auxodium
October 29th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Sattler is pretty powerful... and to get him onside is a major boost for perth in general

Bump
October 29th, 2008, 04:39 PM
So, am I the drunk, scared citizen or part of a street gang?

chrisaus
October 29th, 2008, 05:59 PM
thinking about it your actually right, he is generally pro development, but still way too socially conservative for me. Too much what-about-the-pensioners stuff

you might be to if your were 70 not what about 19 or 20?:lol:

samboy
October 30th, 2008, 01:45 AM
thinking about it your actually right, he is generally pro development, but still way too socially conservative for me. Too much what-about-the-pensioners stuff

That's his audience what do you expect. He won't shit in the till.

Sanj
October 30th, 2008, 01:49 AM
shit in the till? ive never heard that but i might need to use it.

Nate Von Longneck II
October 30th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Northbridge, a hotch-potch of garishly renovated premises that after midnight turns into a haven for street gangs, drunks, druggies and scared citizens trying to avoid being bashed and robbed.


I am sooo moving to Northbridge.

Scraperfan
October 30th, 2008, 10:46 AM
shit in the till just made it into my venacular.

chrisaus
October 31st, 2008, 03:52 PM
See more articles from AAP General News (Australia)

WA: Premier to rid Perth of 'dullsville' tag by sinking railway

Article from:
AAP General News (Australia)
Article date:
January 21, 2005 | Copyright informationProvided by ProQuest LLC. (Hide copyright information)


AAP General News (Australia)
01-21-2005
WA: Premier to rid Perth of 'dullsville' tag by sinking railway

Western Australia Premier GEOFF GALLOP says a $190 million plan to put underground
a section of the rail line separating Perth from its main entertainment precinct will
rid the city of its dullsville tag.

Dr GALLOP, who's expected to call a state election within days, has revealed a plan
to put underground the Fremantle train line.

The move would open the area around the central train station to commercial, residential
and recreational development.

Similar proposals have been put forward several times previously, ...

Scrawny
October 31st, 2008, 03:53 PM
edit

chrisaus
October 31st, 2008, 03:56 PM
lol read the article date, i was piss taking

Scrawny
October 31st, 2008, 03:59 PM
lol read the article date, i was piss taking

Yep. should do that before replying really. :)

Auxodium
October 31st, 2008, 04:07 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/salem_saori/pwned-48495.jpg

PD
November 3rd, 2008, 08:57 AM
shit in the till just made it into my venacular.

Venacular just made it into my venacular.

TRS-80
November 3rd, 2008, 02:02 PM
shit in the till just made it into my venacular.

Venacular just made it into my venacular.

It's spelt vernacular :tongue2:

docker
November 22nd, 2008, 01:43 AM
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=109422

‘Time for action’ on cultural centre upgrade
22nd November 2008, 7:00 WST


Plans to upgrade the cultural centre in Northbridge needed to be fasttracked because the precinct lacked activity and was an area people avoided, Tourism WA chairwoman Kate Lamont said yesterday.

She said talk of redeveloping the area had gone on too long and it was time to get on with the job of making it attractive.

The State Government has indicated it favours rebuilding the WA Museum on its Northbridge site, located in the precinct, rather than in East Perth as proposed by the former Labor government.

Ms Lamont said small wine bars, a boutique hotel, artists’ studios and cafes needed to be incorporated into the planning to turn it into a family friendly area.

The well-known restaurateur believed that if the small business sector was given the opportunity it would invest in the area, which would also reduce Government infrastructure costs for the redevelopment.

She said if the area was transformed into a “strong cultural cluster” it would have the flow-on effect of making Northbridge a more attractive and safe place.

She said young people were leaving WA because it lacked “conviviality and vibrancy” and that was because arts and culture was not embedded in the city.

“It seems to me that (the precinct is) a place that people pass through, rather than spend time at and that’s because it’s cold and isolated and sometimes it feels a bit lonely in there,” she said.

“By revitalising the cultural precinct I believe there’s a real opportunity and that will have enormous flow-on benefits to the City of Perth because it means as visitors come in they can accidently discover the heart and soul of our town.

“I think we need to somehow bring some family-focused nightlife into that area . . . making it a place you are drawn to rather than want to steer around.

“It’s in the heart of our city and it should be a place that people flock to. Perth needs a strong cultural cluster to show that side of ourselves that we seem to have kept hidden away.”

The East Perth Redevelopment Authority has said master planning for the precinct was expected to begin next year.

Arts Minister John Day said last month he believed the cultural centre upgrade should occur at the same time as the Northbridge Link project.

Ms Lamont said Tourism WA had been briefed on plans for the area and was excited by them but wanted work to start as soon as possible.

“I’m just concerned that we are losing our sense of urgency over this,” she said.

JESSICA STRUTT

All4dev
November 26th, 2008, 03:04 AM
Wed 26 November, 2008

The Liberal-National Government has moved to progress two of Perth’s most important urban redevelopments - calling for public comments on plans for The Link and Riverside projects.

Riverside is bounded by Plain Street, Adelaide Terrace, the Swan River foreshore and Claisebrook Cove, East Perth.

The Link project involves sinking the Wellington Street Bus Station and the Fremantle rail line, from Perth station to Lake Street, opening up new land for development.

Planning Minister John Day today released the revised Riverside Masterplan and announced that scheme amendments for Riverside and The Link would be available for a nine-week public comment period.

“The revised masterplan for Riverside will transform Perth’s eastern gateway into a high-density, urban community with the creation of approximately 3,400 dwellings for about 5,800 residents and more than 30,000m² of commercial and retail floor space for about 1,700 workers,” Mr Day said.

“This project will provide exciting new residential and commercial opportunities for Western Australians.

“The original masterplan for Riverside was released in 2004. The new plan incorporates further input from stakeholders and considers new demographic information, expected population increases, improved sustainability initiatives and landowner proposals for their sites.”

The 40-hectare Riverside project is being delivered by East Perth Redevelopment Authority (EPRA) in collaboration with the City of Perth, WA Cricket Association, WA Trotting Association and Trinity College.

Under current plans The Link project would enable the development of 1,650 dwellings housing more than 3,000 residents and 244,000m² of commercial and retail floor space for approximately 13,350 workers. Plans for the 13.5-hectare Link site have been developed under a partnership between EPRA, the Public Transport Authority and City of Perth.

“The State Government sees Riverside and The Link as critical regeneration projects that will deliver much needed social and economic benefits to the community in the form of more housing, jobs and office space,” the Minister said.

“The release of the scheme amendments is a significant milestone for these projects and they represent the final stage of planning before the start of further development works and release of land for sale.”

Forward works and land sales for the Waterbank precinct, the next phase of the Riverside project, will commence next year. Construction of the first stage of residential development in the Queens precinct (located between Hay Street and Adelaide Terrace) is already underway following land sales in 2006.

Stage one of The Link project has commenced with site works for the Perth Arena already underway. Works will begin in 2009 on the Milligan Street precinct, which will deliver the first development site.

Mr Day said the Riverside and Link projects would provide an opportunity for the State and private sector to work together to deliver benefits for the city’s future.

“The delivery of these projects will bring vitality and activity to these under-utilised areas of the foreshore and city centre, with a combined total investment of $2.75billion expected by the private sector,” the Minister said.

Draft Design Guidelines have been prepared for The Link and the Waterbank precinct in Riverside to guide the developments and these are also available for public comment.

The Riverside Scheme Amendment and draft Waterbank Design Guidelines and The Link Scheme Amendment and draft Design Guidelines are available for community comment until January 28, 2009.

Scraperfan
November 26th, 2008, 03:08 AM
ok we need the pdf's.

Dilaz89
November 26th, 2008, 03:43 AM
He's on a roll :P

I can't find the plans anywhere.

dcmcd
November 26th, 2008, 04:03 AM
He's on a roll :P.

Don't you mean that Allanah was on a roll?

Dilaz89
November 26th, 2008, 04:06 AM
yeah ofcourse but I don't want to be accused of bias :)

Still can't find the plans :(

Dilaz89
November 26th, 2008, 04:28 AM
plans will be up in 15 mins.

crave
November 26th, 2008, 04:44 AM
*taps mouse*

15mins...

sandstorm6299
November 26th, 2008, 04:45 AM
Here's a question to pass the 15 minutes!

How does high rise development right next to the WACA work? I'm just afraid that we might get the same problem with Subi Oval and the Old Swan Brewery where events cannot be held beyond a certain time due to noise regulations. Or are my worries unwarranted?

Dilaz89
November 26th, 2008, 04:47 AM
should be ok with proper laws that prevent noise complaints.

Scraperfan
November 26th, 2008, 04:48 AM
^^ less talk, more plan posting.

*taps mouse*

desperaterobots
November 26th, 2008, 04:53 AM
Are any events held there late at night as it stands?

ryan79
November 26th, 2008, 04:55 AM
I'm seeing cricket balls flying through peoples windows. Symonds, Haydos etc.

crave
November 26th, 2008, 05:05 AM
HURRY UUPPPPPPPPP.

what was dilaz on about... is this on some website?

Sanj
November 26th, 2008, 05:08 AM
should be ok with proper laws that prevent noise complaints.

except this is perth and we have no such proper laws

crave
November 26th, 2008, 05:23 AM
hisssssssssssssss.

Scraperfan
November 26th, 2008, 05:27 AM
the 15 minutes has turned into 1 hour and counting.

acc521
November 26th, 2008, 05:31 AM
15 Perth minutes is not 15 Earth minutes.

Sanj
November 26th, 2008, 05:33 AM
hahaha nice

crave
November 26th, 2008, 05:34 AM
what are we waiting for?

are these plans being released to dilaz or publicly?

:p

i resent this 15 minutes wait...

x

Dilaz89
November 26th, 2008, 05:36 AM
the lady from epra said 15 mins as the files are large. What more do you want me to do?!

Scraperfan
November 26th, 2008, 05:43 AM
lol acc.

we expect you to open a can of whoop ass

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/2/L/bush_whoopass.jpg

crave
November 26th, 2008, 05:48 AM
the lady from epra said 15 mins as the files are large. What more do you want me to do?!

drive around over there and get em...

:p

:D :D :D

dallastexjr
December 3rd, 2008, 12:58 PM
From The West online

Positive outlook on property revamps
3rd December 2008, 6:00 WST


Two leading design firms remain optimistic about the demand for property refurbishments, with major projects still in the pipeline despite the economic downturn.

Both Woodhead and Hames Sharley voiced their confidence in the market this week, despite admitting the commercial property sector had quietened down in recent months.

An increasing number of companies are looking to revamp existing properties as a cheaper alternative to building new ones.

The $8 million upgrade of Perth’s Citigate Hotel and the fit-out of level six of the Public Transport Centre in East Perth are among projects being handled by Woodhead.

The ground floor of the 4 1 /2-star Citigate Hotel has been redesigned by Woodhead as part of the upgrade, which includes refurbishing the lobby, restaurant, function rooms and bar.

Guest rooms, corridors, lift lobbies and the roof terrace pool deck will also be overhauled, with the upgrade due to be completed by February.

Woodhead principal Jacqui Preshaw said it was inevitable there would be more refurbishment work occurring next year.

“Financially, it’s been very difficult for anyone to make anything stack up lately, but I am hoping that with our economic situation construction costs are going to come down,” she said. “I think it’s inevitable and I think people will start to look a little more seriously at doing some refurbishment work.”

Ms Preshaw said the firm was speaking with two other Perth hotels looking at refurbishments in the next two years.

She admitted that demand was quieter but claimed Woodhead had recently won refurbishment projects with the State Government and private sector despite the slowdown.

A major refurbishment of the Department of Corrective Services and Department of the Attorney General offices are among Woodhead’s list of projects.

Hames Sharley is providing pro-bono services to transform a disused engineering shed in Shenton Park into a new workshop and training facility for the Dreamfit Foundation, which designs recreational equipment for people with disabilities.

The upgrade to the 1500sqm workshop is expected to be completed early next year, with the building to house 150 University of WA engineering students.

Director Philip Parker, who confirmed Hames Sharley was looking after four other refurbishment projects in Perth, said the firm was receiving more inquiries about refurbishments, with companies increasingly considering re-fitting existing properties rather than building new ones.

DALE MILLER

GOR@N
December 3rd, 2008, 02:43 PM
citigate hotel .. anything on the outside?

Sanj
December 4th, 2008, 02:38 AM
is citigate the old grand chancellor?

miensie
December 4th, 2008, 02:52 AM
is citigate the old grand chancellor?

Correct.

docker
December 9th, 2008, 03:15 AM
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=112189

Vincent paints vision for power station
9th December 2008, 6:00 WST

Town of Vincent mayor Nick Catania wants to take on redeveloping the East Perth power station and will seek Federal Government money to turn it into an arts, dining and retail hub.

He said the State Government’s reluctance to commit to moving the WA Museum to the riverside site created an opportunity for a new entertainment and residential precinct in a prime location.

He hopes to win council support and develop a plan to put to the East Perth Redevelopment Authority, which manages the site, by March.

If the authority agrees, the partnership would apply for Federal funding from the $20 billion Building Australia Infrastructure Fund.

Mr Catania said the plan would include upgrading roads near the site, particularly East Parade.

“There is an opportunity with this money that the Federal Government has put at our disposal and surely it is one of the prime areas we should home in on,” he said.

Mr Catania said the plan would be similar to an entertainment precinct laid out by the EPRA in 2005, before the former Labor government said it would move the museum there.

He said the State Government’s push to return the power station to the heritage list would not be a hurdle.

“If the Government is not going to use it, then we should immediately see what we can do,” he said. “There is a responsibility to not let all the money that has been spent making the area safe go to waste.

“The East Perth power house is really primed to be developed and you just can’t have such a strategic site left in mothballs.”

EPRA chief executive Tony Morgan said because the location of the WA Museum was under review, planning for the project was on hold.

LINDSAY McPHEE

Sanj
December 9th, 2008, 03:17 AM
it is interesting that local governments are going to bypass state govt and go straight for federal funding. i briefly saw an article in the voice where city of bayswater was planning on doing something similar.

samboy
December 9th, 2008, 03:43 AM
hahaha This is Nick Catania we're talking about. I'd be more confident if my 5 year old nephew took on this task.

ryan79
December 9th, 2008, 05:42 AM
He will if theres some money in it for his mates.....and himself of course.

aaronaugi1
December 9th, 2008, 07:20 AM
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=112189

Vincent paints vision for power station
9th December 2008, 6:00 WST

If the authority agrees, the partnership would apply for Federal funding from the $20 billion Building Australia Infrastructure Fund.

LINDSAY McPHEE

God, this $20billion of federal money is going to have to stretch a long way.

Almost every state is asking for at least half of the amount. Not sure what Brumby was thinking when he announced $15billion of the VTP to be paid for by Infrastructure Australia.

Even WA's application for funds for NB Link, Stirling City Centre, Powerplant and Football Stadium is way too ambitious.

perthgazer
December 9th, 2008, 08:49 AM
i couldnt think of anything worse than giving over a massive redevelopment site to Vincent.

They cannot be trusted to do anything.

samboy
December 9th, 2008, 09:10 AM
but but but they've got a great track record. They've managed to spend 2 years resurfacing a 200meter stretch of road (William st) and still not complete by the way. And I'm sure they've planted a tree and plonked a roundabout somewhere.

docker
January 4th, 2009, 02:53 AM
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6641/muedy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

acc521
January 4th, 2009, 02:57 AM
Schools and hospitals :bash:

jackso
January 4th, 2009, 03:01 AM
Do we even have a museum at the moment? Isnt the one in the 'cultural centre' closed?
I really dont like the idea of a cultural centre. Its sort of like saying culture is to be contained to this particular area, and it seems to make it harder to spread culture throughout the city.

I really want to see a new museum that is appelaing to all ages. Lots of interactive exhibitions. The power station site is just such a good opportunity, but unfortunantly its location is not great.

Navman1
January 4th, 2009, 06:40 AM
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6641/muedy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The museum is low on his agenda too.

Is anything high?

Cygnet
January 4th, 2009, 07:16 AM
The museum is low on his agenda too.

Is anything high?
Yes:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1179/barnieym5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/barnieym5.jpg/1/w415.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img216/barnieym5.jpg/1/)

Navman1
January 4th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Yes:

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1179/barnieym5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/barnieym5.jpg/1/w415.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img216/barnieym5.jpg/1/)

what the hell do they feed that cat!

Scraperfan
January 4th, 2009, 07:38 AM
its photoshopped i cant tell if youre being sarcastic.

i hope he follows through with cat sterilisation legislation.

a recent article showing 4 kittens that were put down and that stated 130 a day will be euthenased between now and february broke my heart.

Cygnet
January 4th, 2009, 03:34 PM
its photoshopped i cant tell if youre being sarcastic.

i hope he follows through with cat sterilisation legislation.
Yes, I think that would be an excellent initiative too.

I was just poking fun by continuing the joke someone made about his top priorities for the State being cat sterilisation and Parliamentary dress standards. ;)

desperaterobots
January 4th, 2009, 03:51 PM
I don't understand this partisan rollback of every single labor initiative. In every single aspect it's a complete waste. It's just really astonishing, and I thought I was pessimistic to begin with.

Ari Gold
January 4th, 2009, 06:22 PM
The triangle between the museum, state library and train station is such a dump.



It has so much potential as so many people walk through it without doing anything.

Ipggi
January 4th, 2009, 09:25 PM
The triangle between the museum, state library and train station is such a dump.



It has so much potential as so many people walk through it without doing anything.

It is by a long shot the ugliest and most rundown 'cultural district' in the nation, at least for a capital city. It really gives credence to WA's reputation of being a cultural wasteland.

Though I do really blame the ALP for this as they had a long time to fix this but just kept procrastinating any work.

Bullswool
January 5th, 2009, 02:34 AM
X_X

Are they going to do anything?? Its like they see it as their duty to scrap everything labor, just because they are the opposition.

jackso
January 5th, 2009, 03:13 PM
From parliament house Wiki:


The Eastern (city) wing was constructed between 1958 and 1964. The building was extended to the south in 1978. In the 1980s numerous bold proposals were offered to extend the landscape eastwards by covering the Mitchell Freeway and reconnecting the Parliament House precinct with St Georges Terrace.

It seems ssc'ers were not the first with the idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_House,_Perth

sandstorm6299
January 5th, 2009, 04:02 PM
I remember someone posted a recent newspaper article on what the forecourt of Parliament House might have been, and FP had some input in that article.

jackso
January 5th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Yeah he idea was talked about on here alot, and if im not mistaken it was alvse who drew up the renders.

Cygnet
January 6th, 2009, 10:42 AM
I think Alvse did some aerial renders, but wasn't the main render actually from an older government proposal?

Swan
January 8th, 2009, 02:12 PM
I think Alvse did some aerial renders, but wasn't the main render actually from an older government proposal?

i posted these ages ago. it has all of the proposals from 1900 - 2000's

http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/visions/1990s.htm

sorry 1986 and 1988 was the land bridge proposals.

http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/visions/1980s.htm

docker
January 9th, 2009, 02:48 AM
^^ great website swan, this one looks cool,

1988
PROPOSED
Parliamentary Precinct
Developed by Cann Corporation Pty Ltd, Architects.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4646/19805it6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The St. George Place proposal created a direct link between the Parliamentary Precinct, St. Georges Terrace and West Perth. It established 13,000m2 of office facilities and the opportunity for access to the historically significant buildings of the Old Observatory and the old Hale School.

we so missed out on this one,
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6272/19006fb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

city_thing
January 9th, 2009, 03:21 AM
^^ Oh jesus....

Scraperfan
January 9th, 2009, 04:52 AM
i love the old classic grand civic proposals. if we had of gotten a building like that there, it would have been so spectacular.

perth has always had fantastic designs put forward. if we had followed through with them all, we would have the best city in australia by far.

not a fan of the bulky buildings on the hill there where dumas house is, would have been too dominating from many viewlines.

GOR@N
January 9th, 2009, 11:33 PM
we have the 2nd ugliest parliament house after sydney

Cygnet
January 10th, 2009, 03:28 AM
i posted these ages ago. it has all of the proposals from 1900 - 2000's
Great link. Thanks! I had only seen a few of those. The second 80's one (which Docker posted) is especially interesting.

aaronaugi1
January 10th, 2009, 08:32 AM
we have the 2nd ugliest parliament house after sydney

Personally i dislike Queenslands more.

Inflation is a major factor but Parliament House (Canberra) only cost AU$1bn. Could you imagine the cost of building those structures Docker/Bon posted if we had the chance to rebuild our parliament today!?

docker
February 26th, 2009, 08:51 AM
http://www.perth.wa.gov.au/documentdb/1157.pdf


PERTH PERFORMING ARTS PRECINCT MASTERPLAN - CAR PARK
FEASIBILITY STUDY
RECOMMENDATION: (INFORMATION)
That the report dated 16 February 2009, detailing information
contained in the Perth Performing Arts Precinct Masterplan -
Car Park Feasibility Study, be received.

BACKGROUND:
FILE REFERENCE: P1021693
REPORTING OFFICER: Robert Farley
RESPONSIBLE DIRECTOR: Peter Monks, Director Planning and Development
DATE: 16 February 2009
MAP / SCHEDULE: Schedule 1 - Perth Performing Arts Precinct Masterplan

At its meeting held on 18 September 2007, the Council adopted the Masterplan for the Perth Performing Arts Precinct. The Council’s resolution required, in part, that the Council proceed with Stage 1 of the Masterplan by appointing consultants to design the central lake and reconfigured car park and obtain the necessary approvals.

At its meeting held on 15 January 2008, the General Purposes Committee supported further investigation being undertaken into the design and feasibility associated with implementing the urban garden and pavilion buildings in the northern forecourt of the Perth Concert Hall.


At its meeting held on 3 June 2008, it was resolved that the Council:-

“1. retains its commitment to the Perth Performing Arts Precinct vision and, in
particular, for providing facilities for the West Australian Symphony Orchestra,
the WA Ballet, the WA Opera and a Lyric Theatre;

2. requests the Parking Committee to examine the feasibility of constructing a
multi-storey underground car park under the St Georges Terrace forecourt side
of the Perth Concert Hall;

3. requests that the report prepared by Hassell Ltd be reviewed in respect of the
staging of the works and content of the Master Plan;

4. does not commit to finalising the design of the lake for the Perth Performing Arts
Precinct until the completion of the Irrigation Needs Review and satisfactory
assessment of parts 2 and 3 above.”


DETAILS:
Masterplan

The key elements of the approved Masterplan are as follows:-

• Central irrigation lake.
• Amphitheatre and pavilion style function spaces on the southern forecourt of the
Concert Hall.
• Spoken word theatre and hospitality facilities on and adjacent to the Swan
River.
• New rehearsal space for the West Australian Symphony Orchestra (WASO).
• New homes for the West Australian Ballet and West Australian Opera.
• Potential for a Museum of Performing Arts and Indigenous Performing Arts
facility.
• 2,500 seat lyric theatre.
• Accommodation.
• A major expansion of the Supreme Court Gardens.
• Transformation of the northern forecourt of the Perth Concert Hall into an urban
garden, jazz club and café or BOCS ticketing outlet.


COMMENTS:
Northern Forecourt - the Masterplan

The Masterplan identifies the potential to create four levels of underground car parking spaces (330 bays). The Masterplan design also incorporates a new 500m² function space at the western end below the forecourt.

Aboveground, the Masterplan identifies two small buildings, each 60m² in size, being located on the eastern and western edges of the northern forecourt of the Perth Concert Hall. Potential uses of juice bar, café, jazz club, bar and alternative ticketing offices were identified, as well as incorporating pedestrian access to the car park.


Feasibility Study

In accordance with the Council’s resolution of 3 June 2008, the City has been investigating options for an underground car park. Three options have been identified:-

• Option 1: four levels, 568 bays.
• Option 2: four levels, 611 bays.
• Option 3: three levels, 424 bays.

These options include the area of land between the Perth Concert Hall site and St Georges Terrace (an 18 metre wide area of land taken as road widening in the early 1960’s). This land was not included in the Masterplan design. These design options will be presented to Elected Members at the General Purposes Committee Meeting.

The City will be seeking quantity survey advice on the three options in March 2009, which will identify the broad costs of constructing the three options. These costs will then be used to assist in identifying the likely 30 year revenue and net present value of a car park.


Issues

The construction of a multi-level underground car park in the northern forecourt area will need to consider:-

• impact on the operation of the Perth Concert Hall during the construction period,
including the impact on the existing 40 bay car park below the forecourt that is
used by the operators of the Concert Hall and WASO and also provides access
into the Concert Hall by members of the public who are mobility impaired;
• the extent to which the foundations of the Chevron Hilton Hotel will need to be
removed;
• whether the City can obtain State Government approval to close the section of
road reserve (approximately 22 metres deep) between St Georges Terrace and
the concert Hall; and if so, the cost of purchasing the land;

• the Perth Parking Policy which includes the subject land within the short stay
parking area;

Furthermore, all car park options will need to incorporate some form of ground level
activation of the forecourt space and incorporate pedestrian access to the car park.

dallastexjr
February 26th, 2009, 11:42 AM
An article in this week's Village Voice or Guardian Express indicated the carpark plans have been cancelled. I don't have a scanner to scan the article, but someone else might.

urbanwriter
February 27th, 2009, 04:12 AM
Yeah the Voice article is a total work of fiction. Not sure what happened there but it is wildly, and I mean wildly, inaccurate.

aaronaugi1
February 27th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Interesting they've chosen to progress with the car park study first.

I hope this doesn't turn into another botched job and all were left with is a few hundred extra bays.

Swan
February 27th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Interesting they've chosen to progress with the car park study first.

I hope this doesn't turn into another botched job and all were left with is a few hundred extra bays.

No need to hope....

docker
March 28th, 2009, 12:53 PM
EPRA have a new website

http://www.epra.wa.gov.au/index.php

and it seems each of Claisebrook Village, East Perth Power Station, The Link, Riverside, Cultural Centre and New Northbridge are getting new websites in April...

samboy
March 28th, 2009, 06:42 PM
excellent, looks like the 'marketing' team is working hard now we need the 'planning team to do the same ;)

dallastexjr
March 29th, 2009, 02:04 AM
From The West online

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=359&ContentID=132246

Go green now lawyers urge

28th March 2009, 6:00 WST


Taking advantage of government funding to retrofit office buildings now is a great way to protect the future value of commercial real estate, according to a team of WA lawyers.

And Minter Ellison Perth says landlords should get a move on to apply for Federal Government funding to green their buildings before the closing date of June 30.

AusIndustry’s $90 million Green Building Fund is aimed at helping owners to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by reducing the energy consumed in commercial office buildings.

They are eligible for grants of between $50,000 and $500,000, which will be allocated over four years for up to 50 per cent of the project costs.

The grants are available for retrofitting projects directly related to reducing greenhouse gas emissions and the energy consumption of the base building.

Some funding may also be made available to smaller property firms under the $1.4 billion Climate Change Action Fund (CCAF). According to a Federal Government white paper, part of the CCAF will be allocated to providing grants and incentives for small businesses to invest in energy-efficiency projects and low-emissions technologies.

Jillian Button, climate change and sustainability lawyer with Minter Ellison Perth, said the availability of government funding programs, plus changing consumer expectations, meant that greening existing buildings should be a top priority for owners this year.

“It is increasingly clear that building sustainability is vital to the lettability, and therefore value, of commercial property,” she said.

With mandatory disclosure of energy efficiency of commercial buildings proposed to be introduced next year, consumer preference for green buildings is likely to become an even more important factor in the rental market.

Commercial office buildings owners will be required to include the building’s energy star rating in any advertisement for the sale or lease of the building.

They will also need to provide a valid Building Energy Efficiency Certificate and Energy Efficiency Assessment Report to a prospective buyer or tenant. Both will need to be prepared by an accredited assessor.

“The commercial impetus to retrofit tired old buildings cannot be denied,” Ms Button said. “This is particularly pertinent in Perth, where over 85 per cent of buildings are over 20 years old.”

The aim of the Green Building Fund was to help owners with property portfolios that were ageing and not likely to gain good star ratings, she said.

CATHY SAUNDERS

ryan79
March 29th, 2009, 07:24 AM
“The commercial impetus to retrofit tired old buildings cannot be denied,” Ms Button said. “This is particularly pertinent in Perth, where over 85 per cent of buildings are over 20 years old.”


Wow, thats appalling considering how little heritage buildings we have.

Urbania
March 29th, 2009, 11:04 AM
Don't worry...in another few decades we will be in a mad panic trying to protect what few 1960's brutalism we have left...

crave
March 29th, 2009, 02:00 PM
hehe.

Skyline Art
March 29th, 2009, 03:37 PM
:lol: I know this is random, but i saw this on the first page by accident when browsing.....

How is the China Green Project comming along?

hack404
March 31st, 2009, 10:33 AM
It is by a long shot the ugliest and most rundown 'cultural district' in the nation, at least for a capital city. It really gives credence to WA's reputation of being a cultural wasteland.

Though I do really blame the ALP for this as they had a long time to fix this but just kept procrastinating any work.


Should reopen it to traffic and get some people back into the area.

exuro
May 2nd, 2009, 09:06 AM
The Perth Cultural Centre is currently taking suggestions on how it can be improved but is only doing so for 5 days (3 remaining!). You can obtain the survey form they are giving out on Saturday or Tuesday morning before they finish (locate at a desk setup in the Perth cultural Centre)

To help them a little bit with their woeful effort I've scanned in the survey form for your convenience :) These are located in the image section underneath this event.

Print them out, fill it out and either fax it to them on 92816020 or take a photo/scan each page and email it to them: reception@epra.wa.gov.au or you can email it to me (Steve!) and I'll hand it in (the cut off date is Tuesday Lunchtime 5/5/09! )

For those not in the know:

What Is the Perth Cultural Centre? It basically the area between Central Tafe, The State Art Gallery, State Library, Western Australian Museum, Blue room Theatre and PICA

What can be done with it? Use your imagination! If your not sure what can be done with this space there are heaps of possibilities. Check out Melbourne Federation Square for examples. Other suggestions we though of were:

*More Live gigs (like St. Jeromes Festival!),
*Free live gigs
*An Artist Run Space
*Anything your imagination can come up with - lets make Perth that much better!

Ok so get cracking people and fill out the attached survey forms. Also invite as many Perth people as possible for this cause.

Happy surveying!

Facebook event link: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=111614659096&ref=share

crave
May 2nd, 2009, 03:26 PM
thanks for linking... i sat down and put pen to paper... i'll scan and send off to you soon... i wanna put some justifications for ideas i had...

after reading your post i wondered whether epra are looking specifically for things to put on like cultural events/concerts/festivals etc...

one idea i'd like to put forward is having tha james st cul-de-sac closed off on tha w/end so street vendors can set up to sell street food. given that epra want to make this work, regulatory agencies need to give it a go... i often fear that tha overzealous "safety brigade" get in tha way of allowing perth to experience some street food grit in tha middle of tha city...

also one of things does my head in, is thinking about tha future... we have people in tha city dedicated to establishing a heart and pulse of tha city such as fed square... but i often feel conflicted becos it's possible that perth could have 3 adjacent "plazas" for cultural/community events... if and when celebration place gets built do we then pull tha heart and soul from cultural centre and move them to "celebration place"... atm, forrest chase is where tha buzz is... we're now trying to figure out how to pump blood into tha cultural centre... what happens when celebration place comes into tha picture... messy.

hehe.

Dilaz89
September 2nd, 2009, 12:05 PM
Public space overhaul planned
News: 3-September-09 by Dan Wilkie


AN ice rink next to the art gallery, a helipad by the river and new farmers' and artists' markets in the Cultural Centre are some of the innovative ideas being evaluated to enliven central Perth.

The East Perth Redevelopment Authority released a cultural centre discussion paper to selected stakeholders last month, highlighting some of the schemes aimed at transforming the amenity of the area.

Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi also promoted a few interesting ideas aimed at revitalising the city centre during a public speaking engagement last week.

Alongside a tourist helipad, which Ms Scaffidi said was an important facility for any capital city, she recommended a town square be established in West Perth and highlighted the need for establishing Forrest Place as the premier civic space within the city.

EPRA's document, the 'Perth Cultural Centre including October Activation Plan', collated by New York-based planning guru Fred Kent's Project for Public Spaces, contains detailed recommendations of innovative proposals designed to inject life into the under-utilised space.

Planning, Culture and the Arts Minister John Day told WA Business News the Kent document was just one of many sources the government was utilising to gather possible ideas for the revitalisation.

Mr Day said the government would release a plan for public comment once finalised.

Some of the notable recommendations in the paper were for the installation of an adaptable swimming pool/ice skating rink with a tiki bar and grill between the art gallery and Beaufort Street, a bocce court next to the Western Australian Museum, and regular temporary exterior art installations and exhibitions.

At the William Street end of the centre, the plan calls for the reactivation of the Pica bar with exterior cafe-style facilities and the establishment of a public square lined with restaurants and cafes from William Street to Pica.

Between the library and the museum, the Kent document recommends a "Perth Plage", a children's play beach and recreation area based around the concepts made popular by a seasonal public space in France, the Paris Plage.

On the roof of the library, the proposal advocates redevelopment of the terrace as an event space.

Near the art gallery, a farmers' market would be introduced under the proposal, while a Central Tafe student artists' market was also mooted.

The Kent document also recommended a redesign of the fountain at the front of the art gallery to incorporate a temporary sport and recreation plaza with cafe seating and a retail kiosk near a remodelled art gallery entrance.

The paper also suggested the name 'cultural centre' be re-evaluated to reflect its new image.

Ms Scaffidi said in a statement supplied to WA Business News the key challenge of revitalising under-utilised areas of the city was ensuring the commitment of individuals and businesses.

Bullswool
September 2nd, 2009, 12:39 PM
An ice rink would be awesome!! Something extra to do. Town Square in West Perth though :S Needs more than that to attract people to the area outside business hours (though perhaps they are just aiming for somewhere nice on weekdays).

Dilaz89
September 2nd, 2009, 01:19 PM
Town Square is years off. State government need to be involved.

crave
September 2nd, 2009, 01:38 PM
ice rink.

...

PerthCity
September 2nd, 2009, 01:57 PM
Well at least it would take all the bogan children off the malls and onto the other side of the tracks. :lol:

BartBart
September 2nd, 2009, 01:58 PM
That is as in "ice skating" - not the ice I think you are after crave.

jackso
September 2nd, 2009, 01:59 PM
The people we don't want are looking for a different type of 'ice' PC...

sandstorm6299
September 2nd, 2009, 03:27 PM
A helipad in the city? Didn't there used to be one near the Causeway?

jarkti
September 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM
I want a tall building with a big helipad, they look realy cool on aerial photos haha :)

But it would be cool to have a helicopter down near the causeway somewhere they gives you joy flights, like a loop around the city would be awesome, I'd go on it :D

Bullswool
September 2nd, 2009, 03:39 PM
We already have one, but I think it leaves from Burswood (?) but does more than just the city, also the suburbs.

jarkti
September 2nd, 2009, 03:49 PM
Oh, is there a website for it?'

-edit-

I found this, im going on it for sure!!
http://www.viator.com/tours/Perth/Perth-Helicopter-Tour/d389-3512FREFLY/photos

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 01:14 AM
i'm just baffled by tha ice skating rink idea... i mean how ridiculous. we don't even have a cold climate in perth, not to mention a non-existant ice skating culture... yes rockerfeller centre has a marvelous ice skating rink... but that's becos it snows in new york and therefore it's quite fitting to have a public space for ice skating!

it does nothing to endear to sustainability/enviro-conscious hippies... even if tha ice skating rink is only operable during winter, tha temperature barely even hits below 10 degrees.

ugh.

samboy
September 3rd, 2009, 02:18 AM
it's just pie in the sky stuff crave. There's no chance we'll get an ice skating rink in the middle of Perth. Don't read too much into 'options considered' 'recommendations' blah blah. It's just there to fill up 'reports' and go through the motions

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 02:29 AM
yah i know, but still people shouldn't spout dumb shit.

it's very discouraging.

it doesn't give me faith when you have people in charge of sifting thru all tha submissions and recommendations and they release some 'discussion paper' and they want 'key stakeholders' discussing dumb shit ideas! you'll get people and sections so polarised to tha idea that, you risk over looking really good things that would be complimentary to tha cultural centre...

anyway.

i'm feeling a bit polarised. haha.

samboy
September 3rd, 2009, 02:33 AM
hahaha yeah I'm one of them. You'll end up cynical and jaded.

Bullswool
September 3rd, 2009, 02:34 AM
Oh, is there a website for it?'

-edit-

I found this, im going on it for sure!!
http://www.viator.com/tours/Perth/Perth-Helicopter-Tour/d389-3512FREFLY/photos

you'd get some good construction updates from up there :)

ryan79
September 3rd, 2009, 02:42 AM
An indoor ice rink would be fine.

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 02:49 AM
why would you have an indoor ice rink at tha cultural centre?

ryan79
September 3rd, 2009, 03:05 AM
Why would you have an outdoor one?

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 03:09 AM
i've kinda alluded as to why you wouldn't have an outdoor one. read above.

now explain why you would have an indoor one...

:p

docker
September 3rd, 2009, 03:18 AM
well what if it was put into the Mega Mart Building across the road? can be used by ice hockey teams as well as anyone who wants to go ice skating...

Bullswool
September 3rd, 2009, 03:27 AM
screw hockey teams lol, they can play in the suburbs. Casual only :) outdoor one would look good in winter i think, out there in out 'cold' weather

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 03:34 AM
we want to liven up all main gateways to tha cbd...

beaufort street before tha bridge is dead.

prime real estate being used for ice skating rink? tha economics don't work.

Sanj
September 3rd, 2009, 03:39 AM
im with crave on this one.

samboy
September 3rd, 2009, 03:43 AM
i don't even know why we are even talking about this. There's more likelihood of crave going straight than an ice rink in the city

docker
September 3rd, 2009, 03:43 AM
you can also knock down one of the walls and make it glass, aswell as part of the roof, have street activation on all fronts and then build apartments above... who said it has to be a normal boring box?

Bullswool
September 3rd, 2009, 03:49 AM
i thought they wanted this in the cultural precinct anyway? Or did i read it wrong? I would like it in there, but not on a street. Though i don't know where you would put it come to think of it...

crave
September 3rd, 2009, 03:58 AM
when epra had that public submissions/consultation... they asked for ideas, i suggested council get involved and help to provide a platform for community groups around northbridge to use some of tha spaces at tha cultural centre... i suggested things like free dog training - allows dogs in built areas to socialise and first and foremost equips owners on how to deal with their dogs in busy living conditions. i also suggested free lifestyle programs like tai chi, yoga on tha grounds of tha cultural centre - it gets tha community to use tha space and make it their own. little things like this that encourage people to come out and take part in social things. but it also helps to activate spaces. .

etc etc

vic-k
September 3rd, 2009, 07:01 AM
The main thing I'd like to see is a proper farmer's market set up, as that would help boost the feeling of "community" within the city immensely. The helipad idea is cool, as it would help make Perth seem a bit more important. Hmm, if Seven were to build their studios on the old Entertainment Center site, would that include a helicopter?

The ice rink idea: awful, just plain awful. If anything I'd rather see a stretch of the river on Riverside drive blocked off, filtered, and turned into a small beach.

On a side note, I did hear/read somewhere that the Cockburn Ice Arena is possibly moving to somewhere around Adventure World. Possibly could have been in one of the local papers that I read when visiting my folks.

BartBart
September 3rd, 2009, 07:06 AM
p14 today's West


New library options

A new City of Perth library could be built as part of the redevelopment of Cathedral Square.

The option is one of two being considered after five years of talks. The other is redeveloping the old Savoy Hotel building in the Hay Street mall at a cost of $19 million,
A report tabled by the general purposes committee on Tuesday night said the Mirvac Group, which is heading a consortium developing the Old Treasury Buildings, indicated a stand-alone library could be built within the redeveloped Cathedral Square.

miensie
September 3rd, 2009, 07:13 AM
The main thing I'd like to see is a proper farmer's market set up, as that would help boost the feeling of "community" within the city immensely.

This.

Farmer's markets are one of the coolest places to wander through and buy fresh produce. I love this idea.

And adding on to that, there's no real 'Sunday market' in the city. That little strip they had near the Museum doesn't count.

It needs to be on a bigger scale because while there are a few people selling handmade items on blankets and sometimes fresh strawberries etc as you come across the bridge, there's nothing of real significance or permanence.

vic-k
September 3rd, 2009, 07:15 AM
p14 today's West

I hope like hell that the library development goes forward, even though it's little better than a whisper in the wind at this point. The State Library at this point is tiny, easily surpassed in quality just most, if not all of the university libraries. Now is the time for Perth to continue pumping money into the development of cultural institutions within the city.

vic-k
September 3rd, 2009, 07:22 AM
This.

Farmer's markets are one of the coolest places to wander through and buy fresh produce. I love this idea.

And adding on to that, there's no real 'Sunday market' in the city. That little strip they had near the Museum doesn't count.

It needs to be on a bigger scale because while there are a few people selling handmade items on blankets and sometimes fresh strawberries etc as you come across the bridge, there's nothing of real significance or permanence.

A couple times a year I visit Chicago on business, and it's visiting the market that is one of my favourite things to do. While it was the community factor that I highlighted, the added advantage is that you get more of the residents taking notice of the food they're eating, with the surrounding area becoming a hub of culinary excellence. Hmm, thinking about it now, if a farmer's market was established, I wouldn't mind seeing a proper culinary institute opening up, something akin to the fashion institute in Northbridge.

Sigh, I dream...

Chicago Farmer's Markets (http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/supporting_narrative/events___special_events/special_events/mose/chicago_farmers_markets.html)

miensie
September 3rd, 2009, 08:56 AM
^ That's cool. This is the one on Third and Fairfax in LA:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1697/2795415292f1b04e613e.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3638/fm2s.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8442/fm3.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1906/fm5n.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/928/fm7.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9302/fm8q.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8061/fm9.jpg

vic-k
September 3rd, 2009, 01:06 PM
:drool:

My heart breaks when I see places like this. Perth really needs to step up their game, as even the markets we do have set up (e.g. Freo Markets) are filled with too much kitsch. Everything and anything resembling what would be sold in a two dollar shop should be banned.

Even though it won't help me one bit, they are building a farmer's market in the new Coogee development, so at least that's getting the ball rolling, somewhat. I would dig up the PDF from the Cockburn website, but it's too much of a quagmire, and I'm too buggered to dig it up.

jddc7
September 3rd, 2009, 04:24 PM
i went to those markets in LA back in june. had lunch there was really nice. you grab what u want and pay by the weight

Urbania
September 4th, 2009, 02:26 AM
There's been a big farmer's market running for a couple of years now in East Fremantle...

miensie
September 4th, 2009, 03:15 AM
There's been a big farmer's market running for a couple of years now in East Fremantle...

Yeah, I believe we've brought that up already.

Perth really needs to step up their game, as even the markets we do have set up (e.g. Freo Markets) are filled with too much kitsch.

Sanj
September 4th, 2009, 04:05 AM
nah he's referring to the one in east freo near muzz buzz. different to freo markets.

miensie
September 4th, 2009, 04:13 AM
nah he's referring to the one in east freo near muzz buzz. different to freo markets.

Oh ok, I thought that was what he (vick) meant.

My apologies then, Urbania.

Urbania
September 4th, 2009, 09:39 AM
Oh ok, I thought that was what he (vick) meant.

My apologies then, Urbania.

No worries! :)

vic-k
September 4th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Urbania is right about that Farmer's market, and while it's nice, it still has some ways to go. Only problem is that it's too far away from me to make it there every week.

I was referring to the South Terrace markets. Actually, Fremantle as a whole has stagnated the past few years (the redevelopment around Gloria Jeans is nice, but there seems to be scant little work done anywhere else). Hopefully the proposed merger of Cockburn and Fremantle would help get things booming again.

commentking
December 13th, 2010, 08:05 AM
Now, here's a DA you don't see every day ...

http://www.oneperth.com.au/2010/12/13/seven-storey-asylum-for-joondalup/

... recommended for approval with nil public input.

CK

JWPJ
December 13th, 2010, 08:26 AM
I hope like hell that the library development goes forward, even though it's little better than a whisper in the wind at this point. The State Library at this point is tiny, easily surpassed in quality just most, if not all of the university libraries. Now is the time for Perth to continue pumping money into the development of cultural institutions within the city.

Just to be clear... the proposed library is separate from the State Library. This one would be a City of Perth library, rather like suburbs/councils have libraries dotted around Perth.

GAbE27
December 13th, 2010, 08:28 AM
I have never seen this thread before!

mental hospital FTW!!

docker
December 13th, 2010, 09:04 AM
I have never seen this thread before!

mental hospital FTW!!

this used to be the urban renewal thread...

vic-k
December 13th, 2010, 09:07 AM
Just to be clear... the proposed library is separate from the State Library. This one would be a City of Perth library, rather like suburbs/councils have libraries dotted around Perth.

Yeah, I know. I'd still like to see the State Library expanded though.

crazyknightsfan
December 13th, 2010, 09:11 AM
City of Perth library has a good local history collection - plenty of interest in there for you development nerds.

Unfortunately the opening hours are retarded - the local studies collection is only open from 10am to 5pm weekdays. The library itself is only open on Sat from 9-12am. Even libraries in suburban Sydney have better opening hours than this

vic-k
December 13th, 2010, 09:12 AM
Now, here's a DA you don't see every day ...

http://www.oneperth.com.au/2010/12/13/seven-storey-asylum-for-joondalup/

... recommended for approval with nil public input.

CK

Wow, that's the first time in my lifetime the word 'asylum' used in a serious manner. 'Psychiatric hospital' would be a vastly more appropriate a term to use.

Sanj
December 13th, 2010, 09:21 AM
City of Perth library has a good local history collection - plenty of interest in there for you development nerds.

Unfortunately the opening hours are retarded - the local studies collection is only open from 10am to 5pm weekdays. The library itself is only open on Sat from 9-12am. Even libraries in suburban Sydney have better opening hours than this

if you dont like it why dont you fuck off back to sydney?

hack404
December 13th, 2010, 09:27 AM
This.

Farmer's markets are one of the coolest places to wander through and buy fresh produce. I love this idea.

And adding on to that, there's no real 'Sunday market' in the city. That little strip they had near the Museum doesn't count.

It needs to be on a bigger scale because while there are a few people selling handmade items on blankets and sometimes fresh strawberries etc as you come across the bridge, there's nothing of real significance or permanence.

It would work best in one of the outer metropolitan appendages like Midland or Armadale.

if you dont like it why dont you fuck off back to sydney?

lol

crazyknightsfan
December 13th, 2010, 09:30 AM
Gosnells has a market in the old goods shed.

crazyknightsfan
December 13th, 2010, 09:34 AM
if you dont like it why dont you fuck off back to sydney?

come at me bro

vic-k
December 13th, 2010, 09:36 AM
Gosnells has a market in the old goods shed.

With the only problem being that it's located in Gosnells...

vic-k
December 13th, 2010, 09:37 AM
come at me bro

Wait, you're straight, right?

James
December 13th, 2010, 10:01 AM
With the only problem being that it's located in Gosnells...

It is very bogan i'll give it that - but there is a lot of potential for it though.

crazyknightsfan
December 13th, 2010, 12:46 PM
Wait, you're straight, right?

If I was gay I would've said "come on me bro" ;)

jarkti
December 13th, 2010, 01:05 PM
If I was gay I would've said "come on me bro" ;)

I didnt know you were from Tasmania:)

dallastexjr
December 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Inces is only illegal if you get pregnant.

vic-k
December 13th, 2010, 03:47 PM
If I was gay I would've said "come on me bro" ;)

:lol:

docker
January 7th, 2013, 09:44 AM
bump...

http://clients.weblink.com.au/clients/finbar/article.asp?asx=FRI&view=6619069 (pdf)


http://www.springsrivervale.com.au/News/View/?article_id=25855

Finbar to kick off Springs Rivervale redevelopment
http://www.springsrivervale.com.au/_news/10328/image?width=256&height=256&mode=c

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i345/Dan_Sheikh/Finbarspringsdevelopments_zps1ab2af2e.jpg

Finbar Group has announced it will construct a $128 million, 188-apartment and office complex at LandCorp's Springs Rivervale redevelopment site.

Finbar said today that it had received development approval to build a residential complex comprising a 16-storey tower and an 8-level building at Springs Rivervale, while a six-storey, 6,250 square metre office building was also approved.

The residential complex will comprise a range of one, two, and three bedroom apartments, and the entire development is expected to be complete by 2015.

FInbar, which led a joint venture to purchase the 7,441 square metre site located on the corner of Great Eastern Highway and the Graham Farmer Freeway, said the development would become the gateway to the Springs Rivervale redevelopment.

Managing director Darren Pateman said the approval was timed perfectly to coincide with Crown Perth's new $570 million six star luxury hotel plan and the state government's proposed $900 million new major stadium at Burswood.

“The whole Burswood precinct will be transformed over the next four years and the Springs is a key element with this renewal process,” Mr Pateman said in a statement.

“Our apartments will offer views of the river and city and their proximity to public transport, access to the CBD, the airport, and major arterial road systems will make this a very convenient and accessible development.

The 14 hectare Springs Rivervale redevelopment precinct, located across the Swan River from the Peninsula golf course in Maylands and adjacent to the Graham Farmer Freeway and Great Eastern Highway, is being managed by government agency LandCorp.

LandCorp's development plan calls for a mix of medium to high density housing to provide more than 1,000 dwellings along with office and commercial buildings.

jonwil
January 7th, 2013, 04:32 PM
The State Library at this point is tiny, easily surpassed in quality just most, if not all of the university libraries. Now is the time for Perth to continue pumping money into the development of cultural institutions within the city.
One thing the state library has going for it is that it has (as far as I know) the largest collection of sheet music in the state (and pretty much all of it is available to borrow too). Great for someone like me who plays the keyboard and wants to learn more songs without paying for expensive sheet music at music shops :)

Actually I don't know if the university music schools have larger collections but even if they do, you certainly cant just go in there and borrow them :)

dallastexjr
January 7th, 2013, 07:12 PM
Cool. Borrow the original version of Shaddap You Face ;]

docker
February 2nd, 2013, 04:09 AM
http://www.springviewtowers.com.au/

http://www.springviewtowers.com.au/img/img4.jpg

9WGvMF_zyVE#!

i like the fake grass
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jackso
February 2nd, 2013, 04:10 AM
Has the other land (grass, lol) been sold off, or just the Finbar site?

Skyline Art
February 2nd, 2013, 08:36 AM
:lol: @ comments between CKF, Sanj, jarkti and the others... re: library and bro etc...

also what a big bump between 2010 and today... thought i'd carry this over the page.

http://www.springviewtowers.com.au/

http://www.springviewtowers.com.au/img/img4.jpg

9WGvMF_zyVE#!

i like the fake grass
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5781/springviewimg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/springviewimg.jpg/)

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About time that corner of the river & highways has something decent being built there. Also :lol: @ the grass looking so lush in the pic.

Skyline Art
February 2nd, 2013, 08:43 AM
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AndyGM
February 4th, 2013, 12:34 AM
When the Springs was first planned they were estimating up to 700 apartments and 40,000m of office space across the whole project.

Finbar's two developments alone are proposed to have 458 apartments and around 10,000m of office space across only around 20 per cent of the sites.

Hopefully this means the projected number of apartments is now a lot higher, as the whole place will be pretty shitty if they only manage to add another 250 apartments and 30,000m of office space across the remaining sites.

Dilaz89
February 4th, 2013, 10:23 AM
I think a thread for this development is in order.

WA Holiday Guide
February 5th, 2013, 12:43 PM
The buildings depicted for this site on the corner in the first video 3d render are much shorter, so i'd say there is lots of scope for this to turn out denser across the whole plot than the original masterplan.

The marketing is complete BS though. Its definitely too far to walk to Burswood and if you did, you'd want your capsicum spray at the ready. Perth is also a decent freeway drive away, its hardly on the doorstep.

Dilaz89
February 5th, 2013, 12:46 PM
Eventually there will probably be a CAT/feeder style bus from the Springs to the station. Don't forget all the crappy industrial land around the station will be developed too.

Dazperth
February 6th, 2013, 03:38 AM
Eventually there will probably be a CAT/feeder style bus from the Springs to the station. Don't forget all the crappy industrial land around the station will be developed too.

This is true, all the old warehouses and scrap yards around Goodwood Parade are being pushed out in favour of residential development. The start of which is Origin Apartments, currently starting to have an impact when driving along Farmer Fwy.

Arkhitect
February 6th, 2013, 07:19 AM
With all this development coming online around Burswood, imagine what the peninsula will look like in 15-20 years?

fast_fokker
February 6th, 2013, 03:28 PM
With all this development coming online around Burswood, imagine what the peninsula will look like in 15-20 years?

It'll look like Chatswood in Sydney looked like 25 years ago in "15-20 years" Perth time :)

Arkhitect
February 6th, 2013, 04:27 PM
It'll look like Chatswood in Sydney looked like 25 years ago in "15-20 years" Perth time :)

You are probably right, although tbh I have never been there. At the end of the day though, and in comparison to larger cities like Sydney (with regards to development), we will always be behind the 8-ball.

I just think that in the greater scheme of things, these bits of inner-city development/in-fill are only little steps in a much greater evolution of Perth. Sure they aren't marvels of architecture by a long stretch, but in the long run, they're only going to aid in maturing the property market and assist in changing the mentality of developers and expectations of residents as the apartment lifestyle becomes more 'the norm'.

AndyGM
April 10th, 2013, 09:12 AM
I notice in the latest upcoming developments listed for DAP approval that there is a three building mixed use development for Cannington next to the railway station.

Any ideas what it will look like?

RallyOz19
April 10th, 2013, 12:47 PM
^^
p 342 in this
http://daps.planning.wa.gov.au/download.asp?filename=bWV0cm9wb2xpdGFuIGRhcHMvbWV0cm8gY2VudHJhbCBqZGFwL01lZXRpbmcgYWdlbmRhcyBhbmQgcGFwZXJzLzIwMTMwMzE5IC0gTWV0cm8gQ2VudHJhbCBKREFQIC0gQWdlbmRhIC0gTm8gMjMgLSBDaXR5IG9mIE1lbHZpbGxlIC0gQ2l0eSBvZiBCZWxtb250IC0gQ2l0eSBvZiBDYW5uaW5nLnBkZg

If there's a render in there I didn't see it.

PD
April 10th, 2013, 12:55 PM
I notice in the latest upcoming developments listed for DAP approval that there is a three building mixed use development for Cannington next to the railway station.

Any ideas what it will look like?

I've seen the render somewhere, I thought I may have even posted it on here but went through metropolitan thread and couldnt find it.

It was a pretty regular looking apartment building and had some sort of garden network (on the podium and maybe spreading to neighbouring buildings).

fastrak44
April 11th, 2013, 08:18 AM
Yay, actual density in (Somewhat) outer suburbs ^^

c_avdas
April 11th, 2013, 08:30 AM
I wouldn't describe cannington as an outer suburb but yes still promising

larapinta
April 12th, 2013, 07:23 AM
Don't know why Perth is compared with Sydney. Comparing Perth to a city with a population 3 times larger is pretty unrealistic I would have thought. I wonder what Sydney looked like when it had a population under 2 million. Bet Perth is a better planned city now than a Sydney with a similar population many many years ago.

JWPJ
April 14th, 2013, 05:02 AM
Does anyone know what became of the Little Creatures Hotel that was approved in 2011 in Freo?

eco186
April 14th, 2013, 08:18 AM
It's still going ahead, sometime in the next year.

RocStar
April 27th, 2013, 08:24 AM
Richmond Quarter East Fremantle. 45% sold.

http://www.richmondquarter.com.au/_asset/img/_file/gallery/richmond-quarter-gallery-003.jpg

http://www.richmondquarter.com.au/_asset/img/_file/gallery/richmond-quarter-gallery-006.jpg

http://www.richmondquarter.com.au/_system/website/theme/base/img/richmond-quarter-location.jpg
http://www.richmondquarter.com.au/

Scraperfan
April 27th, 2013, 09:40 AM
Bloody awesome.

Screams of quality.

ɴick
April 27th, 2013, 02:32 PM
Really like the look of that one.