I've read a few articles about a new baseball stadium in Rome (Italy, not the home of the Braves farm team). Has anyone seen the renders of this?

http://baseballdeworld.com/2010/02/22/rome-plans-new-baseball-stadium/
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/sports/rome-mayor-plans-baseball-stadium/360115

Haven't heard of it but if it's for the Olympics why would they need a baseball stadium baseball is no longer in the Olympics. But any way it could be a good plan.

it would be as logical as building flying hill in the middle of sahara

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/3/33/Cagliaristemma.png
Cagliari Calcio

1x Campionato di Serie A: 1970

1x Coppa Italia di Serie C/Lega Pro: 1989

http://www.cagliaricalcio.net/home.html

http://it-it.facebook.com/pages/Karalis-Arena-Cagliari-Calcio/109592549063584?sk=photos#!/pages/Karalis-Arena-Cagliari-Calcio/109592549063584?sk=photos

nice to see at least some of these Italian clubs doing something about their stadia

The Arena
http://blog-admin.cagliaricalcio.net/medias/u/l/ultimissime/gallery/IMAGE/uid_1312e3db3c7.r.640.360.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216850_240510092638495_109592549063584_827917_6709544_n.jpg

What the hell happened to this vision?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2586920478_c08509170e_o.jpg

It looked a lot better...

What the hell happened to this vision?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2586920478_c08509170e_o.jpg

It looked a lot better...
http://static5.depositphotos.com/1000128/425/i/950/depositphotos_4255385-Bunch-of-dollars-and-euro.jpg

^Lol well put.

Make it out of cardboard boxes, anything is better than whats there. Really good to see a wave of new proposals in Italy...Juve may have actually started a movement.

beautiful but low-capacity stadium

Now Juventus has there own stadium, other Italian teams are planning or thinking of building there own stadium :

Roma - Palermo - Calgiari

Are there any other teams that plans to build there own stadium?

I think Udinese and Napoli have plans.

There is always talk about Inter but nothing concrete seems to come out.

What about Lazio's Stade delle Aquile ?

a promise...just a promise

Udinese's plan, I think:

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6956/nuovostadiofriuli5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/nuovostadiofriuli5.jpg/)

I think Udinese and Napoli have plans.

There is always talk about Inter but nothing concrete seems to come out.

i hope inter stays in san siro

Who stay at San Siro, I think depends of the question :

- which team has the money to build a new stadium or buy San Siro
- which team necessarily need a new stadium (maybe both)
?
That's my idea, but I can be wrong or...

For the rest of Italy, I hope teams build there own stadiums or buy the stadium they play now and renovate.
Italy need this for there own future !

Inter could have built a stadium 3 times over with the amount of money they throw on transfers and wages. They are not a club that is run prudently. And both Inter and AC need new stadiums so they can have autonomy in how its run, and drastically increase matchday revenue. Not to mention, the San Siro is far too big for these clubs. Its not the 1970's anymore. 50-60,000 is adequate.

No serious world power in football should be renting anymore. It's time for the big clubs in Italy to modernize.

are most stadiums in italy state owned?

are most stadiums in italy state owned?
Almost all of them are. Mostly because of World Cup '90. For Italy to become a top three league again, the clubs will have to build and operate their own stadiums.

are most stadiums in italy state owned?

Yep. Outside of Juve now, all of them are I think. Clubs have no incentive to contribute to improve stadia as long as they don't own the stadium. And councils sure as hell won't care about refurbishing. That's why infrastructure is in such a sorry state in Italy.

Inter could have built a stadium 3 times over with the amount of money they throw on transfers and wages. They are not a club that is run prudently. And both Inter and AC need new stadiums so they can have autonomy in how its run, and drastically increase matchday revenue. Not to mention, the San Siro is far too big for these clubs. Its not the 1970's anymore. 50-60,000 is adequate.

Both Milan and Inter have averaged over 60k more than once in the past 10 years, and Inter were pushing 70k just 12 years ago. Crowds were on a general decline until about 2006; there has been a modest up swing since so we could be witnessing a new trend.

That being said I agree, a 55-60k ground is fine for the immediate period, but they should make potential expansion easy like Juve have. The San Siro could be reduced just by an internal renovation giving larger Wembley-sized seats as they still have those crappy ones (despite getting a larger lower tier the Maracana isn't having its capacity increased, in fact I think it is losing between 1-3k seats)

Almost all of them are. Mostly because of World Cup '90. For Italy to become a top three league again, the clubs will have to build and operate their own stadiums.



Yep. Outside of Juve now, all of them are I think. Clubs have no incentive to contribute to improve stadia as long as they don't own the stadium. And councils sure as hell won't care about refurbishing. That's why infrastructure is in such a sorry state in Italy.

i knew many were state owned but not that many

we have the same crap in iran, and aside that, most of our clubs are owned by the regime! :bash:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FqSoLdgnks0/TjkuxHslIaI/AAAAAAAAC40/71E51O3NoRU/s1600/bbbbp.jpg

First time I've seen this concept:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9372/captureinter.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/captureinter.jpg/)

bad concept not covering everybody :lol:

Both Milan and Inter have averaged over 60k more than once in the past 10 years, and Inter were pushing 70k just 12 years ago. Crowds were on a general decline until about 2006; there has been a modest up swing since so we could be witnessing a new trend.

That being said I agree, a 55-60k ground is fine for the immediate period, but they should make potential expansion easy like Juve have. The San Siro could be reduced just by an internal renovation giving larger Wembley-sized seats as they still have those crappy ones (despite getting a larger lower tier the Maracana isn't having its capacity increased, in fact I think it is losing between 1-3k seats)

Yeah that would be ideal. My only concern with 60k stadia for the massive European clubs would be penis envy when they compare with others have. But as you say, leaving the option of expansion would put a rest to clubs like Inter overestimating the size of the any new stadium.

Ever increasingly I become attracted to the idea that clubs should build stadiums that suffocate their supporter base, creating an environment where attendance is paramount and season ticket waiting lists (however esoteric and useless a measure) skyrocket. It goes against everything that supporting is for, but I think it has beneficial side effects.

The most important sight for a football league is a full stadium I think. Doesn't matter if its 90,000 or 12,000, a full stadium impresses upon you the idea that what is happening is relevant. And there's no better way to sell a league than that - not even better quality on the pitch.

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http://pesfan.it/immagini/2011/08/stadio-juventus.jpg


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http://cafe.daum.net/stade/Italy_future (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5SJw/13)


http://cafe.daum.net/stade/Italy (http://cafe.daum.net/stade/5BHs/27)



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the zone surrounding is truly big! do they plan to build hotels & offices?

It's too small. Cagliari will be cut off in case of Euro or WC, for this reason in Cagliari asked 30.000.

In Mainz are realizing a stadium with 33,500 seats, in Cluj 30,500, in Lvov 33,500, in Grozny 30,000 and go on.

For a big event UEFA ask you a stadium of 30,000.

That's not true. Cagliari wont be cut off in case of Euro or WC, because in 2 months of work will have a 30.000-seats stadium. It's a modular steel project (already U/C in Rome).

:)