- Independent „Switzerland“ forum under Euroscrapers, Schweiz subforum is moved there
- Arc Lémanique subforum is created in this independent Switzerland forum
- threads on projects are in the local language + English
- threads on regions can be language-specific (French, Italian, German)

The idea is good but unfortunatly you can't see it in one poll...

The idea is good but unfortunatly you can't see it in one poll...

What do you mean? The split up in various threads for each suggestion?

It's like the countersuggestions in the public votes.

You prefer to have it all in one single poll?

Es geht auch so, man kann es ausrechnen: Nach aktuellem Stand steht es 7 zu 5 für Variante D im Vergleich mit A, B un C werden abgelehnt. Geben wir 48 Stunden Zeit? Bis dann sollten alle abgestimmt haben.

Es geht auch so, man kann es ausrechnen: Nach aktuellem Stand steht es 7 zu 5 für Variante D im Vergleich mit A, B un C werden abgelehnt. Geben wir 48 Stunden Zeit? Bis dann sollten alle abgestimmt haben.

okay

Also damit es genau stimmt, sollte man es so ausrechnen:

Yes, for sure = 2 Punkte dafür
Rather yes = 1 Punkt dafür
Rather no = 1 Punkt dagegen
No, for sure not = 2 Punkte dagegen

Bis Freitagmorgen um 10:00 Uhr hat man Zeit zum abstimmen. Dann wird das Ergebnis ausgerechnet und Küsel und Erbse präsentiert.

Alle einverstanden?

I think this is the best way to have the Swiss forum united and not exclude minorities, and I say that as a Romand.

now:

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» Nordic & Baltic Forum | German | Belarus | Ukraine | Belgium | Turkey | Hellenic Agora | Serbian | Bulgaria | Romania | Slovakia | Czech Republic | Albanian | Hungary | Slovenia | Croatia | Bosnia and Herzegovina | Makedonski

Urban in German
» Deutschland | Österreich | Schweiz

Basel
Zürich
Swisslounge

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» Nordic & Baltic Forum | German | Switzerland | Belarus | Ukraine | Belgium | Turkey | Hellenic Agora | Serbian | Bulgaria | Romania | Slovakia | Czech Republic | Albanian | Hungary | Slovenia | Croatia | Bosnia and Herzegovina | Makedonski

Urban in German
» Deutschland | Österreich

Switzerland
Schweiz Suisse Svizzera

Basel
Zürich
Swisslounge
Romandie / Arc Lémanique
(Ticino)

@ steve 5: this suggestion sticks with the metropolitan regions - so, Zurich, Basel, Arc Lémanique. You mixed it up with suggestion D.

@ steve 5: this suggestion sticks with the metropolitan regions - so, Zurich, Basel, Arc Lémanique. You mixed it up with suggestion D.

Es geht nur noch um die Frage unabhängiges Forum oder Umbenennung. B und C werden jetzt kaum noch aufholen. Ob A oder D gewinnt, die Mehrheit hat bereits für ein Westschweizer Forum gestimmt, das Tessiner Forum wird sowieso in den nächsten Jahren nicht genehmigt. Egal ob wir es Arc Lémanique oder Romandie nennen, die Westschweizer werden auf jeden Fall eine Romanide draus machen und alle französischen Posts dort eröffnen.

What do you mean? The split up in various threads for each suggestion?

It's like the countersuggestions in the public votes.

You prefer to have it all in one single poll?


I think we should now have a poll to directly decide between the 2 remaining options (A and D).

I think we should now have a poll to directly decide between the 2 remaining options (A and D).

Yeah, that seems like a good idea!

I think we should now have a poll to directly decide between the 2 remaining options (A and D).

That's not necessary, you can vote for each suggestion and that one with the most points wins.

That's not necessary, you can vote for each suggestion and that one with the most points wins.

It is necessary. Maybe someone voted just for suggestion B and declined the others. If there are just A and D remaining he should also have the possibility to decide between these two options!

Also because it's that tight between A and D it's better if people who voted yes to both now can decide between them!

But I don't know how to open a poll, so somebody else will have to do it... :colgate:

Es geht nur noch um die Frage unabhängiges Forum oder Umbenennung. B und C werden jetzt kaum noch aufholen. Ob A oder D gewinnt, die Mehrheit hat bereits für ein Westschweizer Forum gestimmt, das Tessiner Forum wird sowieso in den nächsten Jahren nicht genehmigt. Egal ob wir es Arc Lémanique oder Romandie nennen, die Westschweizer werden auf jeden Fall eine Romanide draus machen und alle französischen Posts dort eröffnen.

You're probably right with this.

But before we make this final poll, shouldn't we check first if the German and Austrian users would be fine with the option "Renaming" at all, because in this case it would be their forum as well which is renamed.

The other possibility is to do our poll first and the following way:

- Suggestion A better
- Suggestion D better
- Suggestion A only
- Suggestion D only

Everybody who votes for one of the first two options agrees with the other option in case the preferred option cannot be realised (eg. because German and Austrian users are against it).

I would be gratefull if you could give up "Arc lémanique" and keep only "Romandie" as a section name. Because many others cities in the Romandie have towers (Neuchâtel, La Chaux-de-Fonds, Fribourg, Crans-Montana, etc..).

Romands from NE, JU, FR and VS would come more easily under the name Romandie than Arc Lémanique, which is too exclusive

@ steve 5: this suggestion sticks with the metropolitan regions - so, Zurich, Basel, Arc Lémanique. You mixed it up with suggestion D.

forget Arc lémanique

"Romandie"

arc lémanique is too exclusive, and wouldn't include the rest of the french speaking in switzerland.

forget Arc lémanique

"Romandie"

arc lémanique is too exclusive, and wouldn't include the rest of the french speaking in switzerland.

Basel and Zurich Metro Areas are also exclusive and don't include the rest of (german-speaking) Switzerland. That's how we have structured it:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18071749&postcount=1

From the point of view of urban development and daily life, Annemasse (F) is much more belonging to Geneva, than Delémont. The latter is even rather tending towards Basel. There is no S-Bahn from Geneva to Delémont. From Basel, there is one. With the new NEAT-tunnel, the orientation of the Valais towards Bern has increased a lot. Etc.

Plus, like Küsel and el-tico, I am also of the opinion, we should communicate more inside the country. That's why I would prefer to keep the structure of the forum by topics and not by people. And to do this from a geographical/urban perspective and not from a political, religious or linguistic point of view. Urban development doesn't stop at national, cantonal or language borders. A city and its urban area is a melting pot that unites people of different nationality, language and religion in one place. For me, this is an inherent idea of urbanity and of an urban forum.

Still, 95% of dicussions concerning projects in french-speaking Switzerland would be in Arc Lémanique. But the other 5% might be also a reason for Romands to join the rest once in a while in the general part of the Switzerland forum. I am aware, it might not work out one-hundert-pro, but we could at least give it a shot. ;)

Basel and Zurich Metro Areas are also exclusive and don't include the rest of (german-speaking) Switzerland. That's how we have structured it:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18071749&postcount=1

From the point of view of urban development and daily life, Annemasse (F) is much more belonging to Geneva, than Delémont. The latter is even rather tending towards Basel. There is no S-Bahn from Geneva to Delémont. From Basel, there is one. With the new NEAT-tunnel, the orientation of the Valais towards Bern has increased a lot. Etc.

Plus, like Küsel and el-tico, I am also of the opinion, we should communicate more inside the country. That's why I would prefer to keep the structure of the forum by topics and not by people. And to do this from a geographical/urban perspective and not from a political, religious or linguistic point of view. Urban development doesn't stop at national, cantonal or language borders. A city and its urban area is a melting pot that unites people of different nationality, language and religion in one place. For me, this is an inherent idea of urbanity and of an urban forum.

Still, 95% of dicussions concerning projects in french-speaking Switzerland would be in Arc Lémanique. But the other 5% might be also a reason for Romands to join the rest once in a while in the general part of the Switzerland forum. I am aware, it might not work out one-hundert-pro, but we could at least give it a shot. ;)

Vergiss es Railcity, das funktioniert nicht! Auch auf SSC wird es einen Röstigraben geben, egal ob mit Arc Lémanique oder Romandie. Was gehört denn zu Arc Lémanique? Nur Genf und Lausanne mit Vororten? Oder alle Orte am Genfersee? Und dann wie weit ins Land hinein? Bei Basel und Zürich ist es klar, Kanton Zürich und Kanton Basel Stadt und Land und dann noch Städte die nur wenig ausserhalb der Kantonsgrenze liegen. Die Entscheidung liegt bei den Westschweizer-Mitgliedern, und von denen hat sich bisher noch keiner für Arc Lémanique geäussert, aber schon mehrere für Romandie.

VOTE NOW (within the next 7 days)!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=724934
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