What day?

naka limot naman ko....unsa day na date pag tke nimo photos?

Really?! Urban Dub in Cagayan de Oro?
THE URBAN DUB?
Hahaha, Maayo pod baya ang K9 and Tabularaza!




Yup...ila guitarist amo guitarist sa una..hehehe.:)

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/46/19/43889164/1_251035900l.jpg

Yup...ila guitarist amo guitarist sa una..hehehe.:)

Sa Urban Dub Bro? Or sa K9 or sa Tabularaza...

Barkada ko back-up guitarist sa K9... si Jopax...

Sa Urban Dub Bro? Or sa K9 or sa Tabularaza...

Barkada ko back-up guitarist sa K9... si Jopax...

^^Sa K9 og Tabularaza..si Bammers tanawa gani tong pic namo..:)

^^Sa K9 og Tabularaza..si Bammers tanawa gani tong pic namo..:)

bammers... naa na sya'y jamminganan ba? kay bukang bibig man pod iyahang ngalan sa akoang barkada kay gabanda man sila... they play well pero wala pa'y "break"... impt. kaau ang "break" sa usa ka banda, dba?

Sa mga moderators, announce lang po ako para sa mga hindi dumadayo sa Samahan forums, pasensya na po sa abala:

Project: Isang Bayan, Urbanidad! SSC Philippines National T-shirt design contest.


I think its time for the Skyscrapercity Philippines to have our own national t-shirt that would encompass all of the Filipinos of this archipelago, the OFWs, the immigrants, Fil-Ams and those who wish to be part of the Samahan of Skyscrapercity Pilipinas forumers (interested foreigners who want to have also their shirt) showcasing the artistry of the Filipinos in graphic t-shirt design.

Theme: Isang Bayan, Urbanidad!– Encompassing all of the aspects of urbanity of the Philippine cities and localities, as one nation in one t-shirt design. Being Filipino both here and abroad aiming for progress for the motherland.

Colour of Background:The design should be well incorporated in a black t-shirt.

The T-shirt Design
The proposal of the t-shirt design is open to all SSC Philippines forumers. The deadline for passing the t-shirt print design would be on December 05 2008. Have your t-shirt design posted in this thread link at the Samahan Forums entitled: Skyscrapercity Philippines/Pilipinas T-shirt Design Contest. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=742588)

You may submit print designs either for one side (front or back only) or for two sides (front AND back). Each forumer is entitled to submit a maximum of three designs.

For direct access to the thread, log on to this webpage:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=742588

So for those creative art designers out there, have your share here! J

The Polls for the T-shirt Design
Voting for the preferred design for the t-shirt would start at December 6, 2008 to January 7, 2009. After the selection, whoever has the highest votes from the forumers for the design shall be the official print design for the SSC Philippines t-shirt. By mid-January to February, we would have our t-shirts available!

To vote, just log on to this webpage to chose the preferred design starting December 6 2008: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=742588

T-shirt costs...
The t-shirt would cost approximately from PhP150 to PhP500...but I hope we could find an affordable yet quality t-shirt printers. There may be an additional shipping cost for those living outside Manila.

Another proposal is to have contact persons in cities outside of Metro Manila. We will be sending the said t-shirt design to these contact persons and will be the ones who will print it in their locality.*

*There should be a common consensus regarding the logistics of production and delivery by December 2, 2005.

For the winner of the contest…
He or she is entitled for his/her free t-shirt with his/her design printed on it.

For those interested in having a t-shirt:
Have your name listed in this thread starting December 26 and deadline would be January 15, 2009 for the first batch. There would be an announcement for the second batch of orders after January 15. :)




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For more information, suggestion and comments, please have it posted at the Skyscrapercity Philippines/Pilipinas T-shirt Design Contest thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=27606046#post27606046) or PM me.

Its time that we showcase to the Skyscrapercity world how talented and dedicated the Filipino forumers are for the aim of progress of Pilipinas!!

Salamat po, Mabuhay po Tayong Lahat at Maligayang Pasko sa inyong lahat!!!
:):)

Yes you are correct. But what I am saying here is that CARAGA people also come to CDO for their shopping needs (although not as frequent as our brothers from Lanao). I can attest to this point because I have friends from CARAGA (Butuan, Surigao).

I have also friends from Zambo Siay who are coming to CDO from time to time for their shopping needs (you know... like shoes).:)


rfm, you didnt make a mistake. there is a town in zambo sibugay called siay. ive been to siay more than 50 times already.

normin, as of today, only includes misor, misoc, camiguin province, lanao norte and bukidnon.


the stats that our friend presented to us was for normin only

For everybody's info. CITI HARDWARE, which has an outlet in Gusa Highway, is putting up a new store in Bulua near DPWH DEPO. This will be early next year. :banana:

thanks for the heads up. i love to hear good news for cdeo :) :banana:

bammers... naa na sya'y jamminganan ba? kay bukang bibig man pod iyahang ngalan sa akoang barkada kay gabanda man sila... they play well pero wala pa'y "break"... impt. kaau ang "break" sa usa ka banda, dba?

OT: Yup. naa xa jaminganan og recording studio...he's one of the best guitarists of CDO indie scene. d lugar kay amo xa guitarista. hehe..:)

Speaking of population per region... as you can see the stats from NSO.. looks like there is a big increase in population for R10 and there is a constant growth rate 1990-2007, looks like a lot of people are moving to region 10. IMO.

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp24/ejames2008/pop.jpg

The small land area of CdeO has 553,966 as of 2007, Aug.

Source

http://www.census.gov.ph/data/sectordata/2007/region%2010.pdf
http://www.census.gov.ph

this is really solid info. thanks and keep them coming. :banana:

OT: Yup. naa xa jaminganan og recording studio...he's one of the best guitarists of CDO indie scene. d lugar kay amo xa guitarista. hehe..:)


OT: would you believe me if i tell you that i use to be in a band before? we didnt make it big. we disbanded before we graduated from college. it was fun while it lasted. alternative and grunch raman to amo makaya saona

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2894324183_5c344c797c.jpg?v=0

A free weekend in Cagayan de Oro. So i try the White Water Rafting beginers course and the Canopy Tree climb/walk and zip line at Macahambus. This is a photo of a banca outrigger boat at the endline of the trip.


by manny_rule

OT: would you believe me if i tell you that i use to be in a band before? we didnt make it big. we disbanded before we graduated from college. it was fun while it lasted. alternative and grunch raman to amo makaya saona

OT: Haha! Yaw pag-ingana kay grunge japun mi nagsugod...during the alternative music explosion of the early 90's.:)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2894324183_5c344c797c.jpg?v=0

A free weekend in Cagayan de Oro. So i try the White Water Rafting beginers course and the Canopy Tree climb/walk and zip line at Macahambus. This is a photo of a banca outrigger boat at the endline of the trip.


by manny_rule

Yup...that bridge was made famous by the defunct show:) Extra Challenge, right?

Canopy Walk Bridge view

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2895163806_99fd79d364.jpg?v=0

A free weekend in Cagayan de Oro. So i try the White Water Rafting beginers course and the Canopy Tree climb/walk and zip line at Macahambus. a view from the tree tops

Canopy Walk Bridge at macahambus Cagayan de Oro

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2895120704_e8eaa43526.jpg?v=0


by manny_rule

more white water rafting pictures
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2841851783_83a16fb53c.jpg?v=0


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/2841852041_17db78c8bb.jpg?v=0

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by rim_pix

Yup...that bridge was made famous by the defunct show:) Extra Challenge, right?

maovah? i didnt know that

;27751928']act of cowardice IMO..use your orig SSC name if you want to deal with me bro :)

Waway ako ang imong konsensya...

hmmmmp.....:ohno::ohno::ohno:
hey yellow!....you and I are one...... konsensya mo nga ako eh..... basta be good always... make me proud... if you wanna be brave post your picture..:):):) maging modest ka lang sa lahat ng mga posts & quotes mo ay happy na ako...:):):)

White Water Rafting in Cagayan De Oro


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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2895179314_d97c4bedfe.jpg?v=0


by manny_rule

CDO Park Light

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2951474354_7d090c5b9c.jpg?v=0

by manny_rule

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trying out the zip line at Mapawa Nature Park in CDO

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by jonesyjonesy

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Rappel
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by jonesyjonesy

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Macahambus Cave, with 4th year students

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CDO Zip Line

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1116/611449556_3c400563bd.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/611449322_9ae8b810dd.jpg?v=0

by dannagirl_pasaway

zip line-macahambus park,CDO

UFu3TnuISHo

CDO - Zip Line Adventure

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Shortest Zipline in the World, CDO Free Beer

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Zip line 1

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zip line adventure

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;27759748']Waway ako ang imong konsensya...

hmmmmp.....:ohno::ohno::ohno:
hey yellow!....you and I are one...... konsensya mo nga ako eh..... basta be good always... make me proud... if you wanna be brave post your picture..:):):) maging modest ka lang sa lahat ng mga posts & quotes mo ay happy na ako...:):):)

:lol:

CDO Zipline (xca)

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rappelling at mapawa nature park CDO

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2840059708_d66f4d04fe.jpg?v=0

by bcbaby_eight

:lol:



i dont know who the guy is but im beginning to like him already. hehehe! :) :lol:

Speaking of population per region... as you can see the stats from NSO.. looks like there is a big increase in population for R10 and there is a constant growth rate 1990-2007, looks like a lot of people are moving to region 10. IMO.

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp24/ejames2008/pop.jpg

The small land area of CdeO has 553,966 as of 2007, Aug.

Source

http://www.census.gov.ph/data/sectordata/2007/region%2010.pdf
http://www.census.gov.ph

The stat will speak for itself. Region 10 population as shown in the above table plus CARAGA and parts of Zamboanga is the total market of CDO.:cheers:

..our Muslim brothers are also significant in Region 10.:) una, daghang namakwit tungod sa kagubot sa Lanao niadtong 1999.


pls mga impostor ayaw mo palabi sa inyong gibati..peace be In You!

this is really solid info. thanks and keep them coming. :banana:

Excuse me lang ha.... butt in lang ko
Dili man pud nimo ma base ang comparison sa data nga gi provide ani sa NSO
tungod kay naay mga changes aning mga clustering sa Davao Region..... take a look

February 23, 1995: Surigao del Sur removed from Region XI and Sultan Kudarat transferred into
Region XI by Republic Act No. 7901.
December 10, 1998: Sultan Kudarat removed from Region XI by Republic Act No. 8744.
September 19, 2001: Sarangani and South Cotabato removed from Region XI and,
Region XI renamed Region XI (Davao Region) by Executive Order No. 36.

Natural na ang data naga fluctuate...
Tan-awa ninyo

1990 - 4,006,731 (kasali ang Surigao del Sur)
1995 - 4,604,158 (kasali ang Sultan Kudarat)
2000 - 5,189,335 (Kasali ang Sarangani at South Cotabato)
2007 - 4,156,653 (Davao City, Davao Norte, Davao Sur, Davao Or. na lang ang natira)

projection

2008 - 4,222,800
2009 - 4,291,900
2010 - 4,362,400


The Comparison should start on 2007

NorMin Population

2007 - 3,952,437

projection

2008 - 4,174,100
2009 - 4,260,100
2010 - 4,349,300

Note:

Davao Region Population Growth - 1.71
North Mindanao Population Growth - 1.67

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CDO Rappelling

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by dannagirl_pasaway

those statistics were taken from the census office. try telling them that pwede? not us because we're just posting what they have gathered.

xu_pau, dont tell anyone about what i told you. ilang tolog nalang and its show time na dayon

xu_pau, dont tell anyone about what i told you. ilang tolog nalang and its show time na dayon

^^Uy, uy..tym pa ra gud..apila sad ko beh...hehe:lol:

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CDO Macahambus Rappelling
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by dannagirl_pasaway

cdo's talintos (psp - rap bisaya)

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i hope i got this right


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more cdo rappelling

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/610965391_a124b6860d.jpg?v=0

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by dannagirl_pasaway

Team Oro

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Kayak Domain Dagger RX-69

7sM-Vaxblek

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Pryce Plaza Grand Hotel
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2320549502_65bba1d6d3.jpg?v=0


by lumindbv

Looks nice without the sinage "Pryce Gas".:lol:

Kayak Domain Taguanao Rapids

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@ Macahambus Park
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/1874784436_4f95d53343.jpg?v=0

Kagay jeep!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/1874971988_306803c589.jpg?v=0

kagay tshirt
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2343/1874795168_07f50d0369.jpg?v=0

by wanderlusting muse

Kayak Domain Basic Rapids

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Kate and Axel Mistula - Kayak Domain

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;27665190']c'mon, sa tinood lang ta...sa Gateway Mall (Araneta ha) pa lang daan, layo na kaayo ang LKK..

the only thing nga common sa LKK and these 2 shopping complex kay ang concept lang nga mixed use development (sprawling commercial complex nga naay mga "side" stores like Robinsons and ang rumored SM daw) and the soon to rise LKK hotel..

If you look at the details (variety of shops and esp high end ones) , entertainment facilities, even ang overall "feel" sa mall, layo ra oi

sure patsadao paminawon nga comparable sya sa Araneta Center and Ayala Makati, but if we keep it real, layo ra oi

When was the last time that you've been to Limketkai Mall? Kanang tinuod ha? Walay atik2x gyud.

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by wanderlusting muse

gtg guys

gtg guys

^^Nyt pre.

those statistics were taken from the census office. try telling them that pwede? not us because we're just posting what they have gathered.

Tama man ang data sa NSO wala may problema ana...
Dili lang siya dapat i-compare kay naga usab usab ang clustering sa Davao Region (formerly Southern Mindanao).

Repost ko na lang:

1990 - 4,006,731 (kasali ang Surigao del Sur)
1995 - 4,604,158 (kasali ang Sultan Kudarat)
2000 - 5,189,335 (Kasali ang Sarangani at South Cotabato)
2007 - 4,156,653 (Davao City, Davao Norte, Davao Sur, Davao Or. na lang ang natira)

projection

2008 - 4,222,800
2009 - 4,291,900
2010 - 4,362,400


The Comparison should start on 2007

NorMin Population

2007 - 3,952,437

projection

2008 - 4,174,100
2009 - 4,260,100
2010 - 4,349,300

Note:

Davao Region Population Growth - 1.71
North Mindanao Population Growth - 1.67

Mura man gud ug nalipay sa j.walter nga nigamay ang lamang sa Davao Region, natingala lang ko nga gi-base niya ang data sa NSO for comparison with encircle pa nga fluctuating man ang mga figures sa Davao Region. Wala bay na-usab sa clustering sa Normin between 2000 to 2007?

Tama man ang data sa NSO wala may problema ana...
Dili lang siya dapat i-compare kay naga usab usab ang clustering sa Davao Region (formerly Southern Mindanao).

Repost ko na lang:

1990 - 4,006,731 (kasali ang Surigao del Sur)
1995 - 4,604,158 (kasali ang Sultan Kudarat)
2000 - 5,189,335 (Kasali ang Sarangani at South Cotabato)
2007 - 4,156,653 (Davao City, Davao Norte, Davao Sur, Davao Or. na lang ang natira)

projection

2008 - 4,222,800
2009 - 4,291,900
2010 - 4,362,400


The Comparison should start on 2007

NorMin Population

2007 - 3,952,437

projection

2008 - 4,174,100
2009 - 4,260,100
2010 - 4,349,300

Note:

Davao Region Population Growth - 1.71
North Mindanao Population Growth - 1.67

Mura man gud ug nalipay sa j.walter nga nigamay ang lamang sa Davao Region, natingala lang ko nga gi-base niya for comparison with encircle pa. Wala bay na-usab sa clustering sa Normin between 2000 to 2007?

Murag nalipay? Duh... sama ra gud na sa uban ninyo ka tropa na ikalipay ang manghilabot sa among thread, ang ikalipay na tawagon mi ug katkat, ang ikalipay na himoon among city as their laughing ground, ug tawagon na city of the tallest grass. You know what, that forumer just presented a data, a reliable data at that from an authorized agency. I am afraid that you have injected too much implications on it. Taking your point that there were places that were removed from your region, but with the advent of your new cities in region 11 and with the increasing urbanity of METRO Davao should have have addressed this matter. And take note, there are places too that were removed from region X like CARAGA and Butuan. Tsk tsk:ohno:

official count 2007

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/censusdvo.jpg
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/sectordata/2007/province.pdf

Murag nalipay? Duh... sama ra gud na sa uban ninyo ka tropa na ikalipay ang manghilabot sa among thread, ang ikalipay na tawagon mi ug katkat, ang ikalipay na himoon among city as their laughing ground, ug tawagon na city of the tallest grass. You know what, that forumer just presented a data, a reliable data at that from an authorized agency. I am afraid that you have injected too much implications on it. Taking your point that there were places that were removed from your region, but with the advent of your new cities in region 11 and with the increasing urbanity of METRO Davao should have have addressed this matter. And take note, there are places too that were removed from region X like CARAGA and Butuan. Tsk tsk:ohno:

Ayaw lang gud kasuko.... dili lang man gud siya dapat i-compare..... daghan baya nagabasa diri sa thread ninyo basi ma mis-interpret nila ang data.
Tung lurker pa ko kay sa SSC man ko nagapangitag latest development ug information busa tama dapat ang mga i-pang post. Ako lang man gi clarify.... ok

Really?! Urban Dub in Cagayan de Oro?
THE URBAN DUB?
Hahaha, Maayo pod baya ang K9 and Tabularaza!




Yeah, maayo g-hapon ang K9. I heard gubot ang K9 krn but I hope magpadayon pa japon sila. \m/ :)

official count 2007

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/censusdvo.jpg
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/sectordata/2007/province.pdf

Look at the annual growth rate from 2000 to 2007... :-)

Ayaw lang gud kasuko.... dili lang man gud siya dapat i-compare..... daghan baya nagabasa diri sa thread ninyo basi ma mis-interpret nila ang data.
Tung lurker pa ko kay sa SSC man ko nagapangitag latest development ug information busa tama dapat ang mga i-pang post. Ako lang man gi clarify.... ok

Mad? Not really. Alarmed? Yes. I am alarmed with the ongoing trend here in ssc wherein the real purpose of this forum has been defeated by certain fixated people who can't let go of their ID. It has never reached to my deepest neurons that some of us here are smart enough to clone certain genes of a forumer who has caused more banes instead of a boon. As to comparison sir, I don't see any harm on it as long as valid data are presented. Your fellow davao forumers are thirsty of it, right? And to set things clear, as I see invalid responses in the previous post, there was only a comparison of the population of NORTHERN MINDANAO and SOUTHERN MINDANAO as a whole, not between the cities of Davao and Cagayan de Oro. Let's stick on that premise.

ah grabe pati population pag awayan! :lol:

Look at the annual growth rate from 2000 to 2007... :-)
cities? thats about .13 diff for cdo.
within this period,
cdo gained = 92,079heads
dvo gained = 216,221

Excuse me lang ha.... butt in lang ko
Dili man pud nimo ma base ang comparison sa data nga gi provide ani sa NSO
tungod kay naay mga changes aning mga clustering sa Davao Region.....

Natural na ang data naga fluctuate...


why not? but you're right about fluctuation. if you are not aware of RX (that is Region 10) Butuan and Surigao were part of it before, minus Lanao del Norte. at present, both Butuan and Sugirao are in Caraga, and Lanao del Norte is part of RX. so that NSO data is just to present data for both regions and nothing else. unless you malign its intention, then its a different story. peace :)

cities? thats about .13 diff for cdo.
within this period,
cdo gained = 92,079heads
dvo gained = 216,221

Expected. Logically? It follows. Statistics? It's valid. Considering that DAVAO CITY is larger in terms of land area than Cagayan de Oro then that reason is good enough. So? Does having a bigger population means progress? You even have a bigger population than Cebu City but quite far behind on their progress. :)

ah grabe pati population pag awayan! :lol:

:lol: kasi binigyan agad ng meaning eh. who cares about population explosion? i dont, id rather have CDO to have less than a million. kasi, the more the population, the more squatters, bigger rate of crime, bigger traffic, bigger in everything! so id rather live in a barrio-esque like CDO, mas peaceful mas maigi. :)

OT: Haha! Yaw pag-ingana kay grunge japun mi nagsugod...during the alternative music explosion of the early 90's.:)

OT: i have no idea, grunge God pala si Darky before. :lol: oh man the 90's, that was epitome of good music, from grunge to alternative. i was never in a band, but more of a fan who loves good music. @Toymatz, uso pala ang indie scene dyan sa CDO. pareho pala tayo ng taste of music, love indie bands/music too.

wa pa day ni mahuman nga gubat. sige padayona na ninyo bai kay lingaw man sad. hehe j/k :lol:

Expected. Logically? It follows. Statistics? It's valid. Considering that DAVAO CITY is larger in terms of land area than Cagayan de Oro then that reason is good enough. So? Does having a bigger population means progress? You even have a bigger population than Cebu City but quite far behind on their progress. :)
what made you find land area has got to do with my post? and whats your logical reason to directly relate pop groth rate and land area? populantion issue was discuussed here for some dream of mtropolitan status. and allof a sudden thare was posted a comparative data of 2 regions. by me presenting another (but amore detailed) data, did i say anythig to get this Does having a bigger population means progress? You even have a bigger population than Cebu City but quite far behind on their progress. what do yo want to imply?

does populatio size here means small is progressive if by stats showing a city has no big dofference in employment and unemploymeent rate from a small city almost 3x smaller its pop size. if cdo has 1.3mil pop now, can its economy provid jobs at employment rate provided by davo city, with all yor hype of econommic activities?

based on nso davao, population rise in davao city was largely attributed to influx of economic migrants and those from conflict areas in mindanap. they came to davao city not bec they saw plenty of land there but opportunities of jobs for a better life. thay are asset to the economy. they grow the consumer market of the city. and for some reason, davos market base extended to as far as your city!

if cebu city is in the heartland of mindanao, do you think it would have the same level of progres it has today? cebu city may have smaller population but its human resources extends beyond its border. from across cities amd towns around it

Ayaw lang gud kasuko.... dili lang man gud siya dapat i-compare..... daghan baya nagabasa diri sa thread ninyo basi ma mis-interpret nila ang data.
Tung lurker pa ko kay sa SSC man ko nagapangitag latest development ug information busa tama dapat ang mga i-pang post. Ako lang man gi clarify.... ok

sagdi na lang bai, wala na ka naanadad ..dire basta patsada ang data/stat/article ok na na, dili na na tukion ngano in-ato ang data and anyone who does is considered nga KJ :lol:

sama gud atong tourism stats sauna nga misamis occ na daw ang (2nd?) leading tourist destination sa pinas without even checking kung unsa ang reasons behind the stats

ah grabe pati population pag awayan! :lol:

mao lagi,tingala pud ko ngano masuko si michael ray, wala man unta ngangaway si wadabboy...sigh. unsaon n lang diay ni? dili n b pwede magkaroon dito ng intelligent conversation, for a change?

kanang data, maski unsa ka reliable, there is always room for discussion.

I think this is a forum right ? , everyone is free to post any IMOs and be corrected here in an orderly manner I hope ?, anyway thanks for the clarification @Wadaboy regarding the fluctuation, it greatly explain the scenario, if we check the population of those removed from the 2007 data...

From 2007 data (Areas removed from Davao Region)

475,514 SARANGANI
767,254 SOUTH COTABATO *

If you add all those numbers, it reach near 1.2M, That explain the population drop from 2000 to 2007 Davao Region population.

Caraga is part of R10 also not until it was separated by the Republic Act 7901, removing Agusan del Norte, Agusan del, Sur, Surigao del Norte and the cities of Butuan and Surigao in 1995.

Since that time 1995 there is no changes for R10 clusters not until Lanao del Norte and Iligan was added to R10. I think this is the reason for the big (million) increase in R10 from 2000 to 2007 census which shows more than a million increase due to the newly added Lanao del Nortel and Iligan.

From 2007 (Areas added to Region 10)

538,283 LANAO DEL NORTE *
308,046 ILIGAN CITY

Note : IMO is an IMO.

Excuse me lang ha.... butt in lang ko
Dili man pud nimo ma base ang comparison sa data nga gi provide ani sa NSO
tungod kay naay mga changes aning mga clustering sa Davao Region..... take a look

February 23, 1995: Surigao del Sur removed from Region XI and Sultan Kudarat transferred into
Region XI by Republic Act No. 7901.
December 10, 1998: Sultan Kudarat removed from Region XI by Republic Act No. 8744.
September 19, 2001: Sarangani and South Cotabato removed from Region XI and,
Region XI renamed Region XI (Davao Region) by Executive Order No. 36.

Natural na ang data naga fluctuate...
Tan-awa ninyo

1990 - 4,006,731 (kasali ang Surigao del Sur)
1995 - 4,604,158 (kasali ang Sultan Kudarat)
2000 - 5,189,335 (Kasali ang Sarangani at South Cotabato)
2007 - 4,156,653 (Davao City, Davao Norte, Davao Sur, Davao Or. na lang ang natira)

projection

2008 - 4,222,800
2009 - 4,291,900
2010 - 4,362,400


The Comparison should start on 2007

NorMin Population

2007 - 3,952,437

projection

2008 - 4,174,100
2009 - 4,260,100
2010 - 4,349,300

Note:

Davao Region Population Growth - 1.71
North Mindanao Population Growth - 1.67

ah grabe pati population pag awayan! :lol:

na mao, kung ang mga first world countries ga try og control sa population, diri sa pinas naay mga cities nga proud sa population growth...:lol:

^^ All I know majority of the richer country has lower growth rate. IMO.

^^ All I know majority of the richer country has lower growth rate. IMO.

definitely. But why compare with population growth rate?

Ah, maybe because higher population growth rate = more people = more purchasing population + higher city categorization?

^^ Bigger population means bigger market, however purchasing power per region also matters.

^^ Bigger population means bigger market, however purchasing power per region also matters.
exactly especially if the region has high inflation rate levels

na mao, kung ang mga first world countries ga try og control sa population, diri sa pinas naay mga cities nga proud sa population growth...:lol:

Proud kay boot pasabot land of oppurtunities, meaning daghan eskwelahan, negosyo, kalingawan, hospital etc.... daghag managsa kung asa hayahay ang kinabuhi.

^^ All I know majority of the richer country has lower growth rate. IMO.

richer countries dagkog budget sa ilang population program.... bigger budget = effective population control

definitely. But why compare with population growth rate?

Ah, maybe because higher population growth rate = more people = more purchasing population + higher city categorization?

Wrong......

higher population means higher human resources to run city's major industries, without productive citizens land will continue to be undevelop... its the local government who will take care the needs of every citizens. Likewise its the citizens who will continue to fuel the city's growth which will eventually accomodate more people in the future.

na mao, kung ang mga first world countries ga try og control sa population, diri sa pinas naay mga cities nga proud sa population growth...:lol:
apparently to ratioalise category it is dying to want. and get there quickly to get even er to spruce up image it is fighting for. and seeing some desirable signs in figures give some euphoric effect of relief for those hopes and bitter desire.

Proud kay boot pasabot land of oppurtunities, meaning daghan eskwelahan, negosyo, kalingawan, hospital etc.... daghag managsa kung asa hayahay ang kinabuhi.



richer countries dagkog budget sa ilang population program.... bigger budget = effective population control



Wrong......

higher population means higher human resources to run city's major industries, without productive citizens land will continue to be undevelop... its the local government who will take care the needs of every citizens. Likewise its the citizens who will continue to fuel the city's growth which will eventually accomodate more people in the future.
right. otherwise filipinos, etc seeking jobs and citizenship overseas would nothave been allowed entry in countries they ta;ked about

^^ Well, sad to say i did not celebrate, i just presented the data with "IMO" remarks on the end. But what I can say now after the changes in clustering, R10 and R11 is at par in terms of population and market demands. Thank you. :)

like market demand of condominium units something?

With laugh pa jud imong comment...... hehehe


reminders lang sa inyo nga perte ninyo ug celebrate atung NSO figures nga hapit na maapsan sa Normin ang Davao..... wala pa mo kabalo nga fluctuated diay to nga data. :) smile lang



halay, oist kabiklan pa jud nang mga smileys. It's a matter of opinion lang naman to. NSO figures? fluctuate? kung fluctuate ang NSO figures then so do the figures you show with all your friends, kay kana tanan gkan man sa mga inila nato nga way klaro nga institutions.

Nganong vain man kaayo mog reaction oi nga comparing to first world countries ra man to in connection to some of us here nga proud sa population growth. Kamo man ang gaingon nga exchange of opinions lang ta diri then im just showing my opinion.

Ang ako ra man ato gikataw-an ang "irony" ba nga sa first world countries control sa population growth, unya ang Pinas 3rd world country, proud ang mga city sa population growth rate. Asa may negative ana beh? Ang funny nga gipoint sa "smiling" nga smiley kay ang "irony" ra man.

Ikaw jud, vain ra kaayo ka. Kung nag argue mo with another forumer ayaw pandamay og lain nga forumer. Alam mo consistent gyud kaayo inyong characteristics. It goes to show nga tanan posts tagaan ninyo og lain nga timplada.:ohno:

Nag cge man lang mo ug away basin sa inyong developments. Walay pilde sa inyong away kay puro man ALAS. Why not promote nalang sa kada city and region para mo samot og uswag. Help promote MINDANAO nalang! Like CARAGA the 2nd poorest region in the country kay bago lang sya... pero nangita og paagi to promote the region. tsk tsk tsk. Walay makuha sa AWAY. mag sakit lang inyong dughan basa sa mga comments and replies. Undanga ng sge ug away sa thread kay ang makabasa ani nga taga lain lugar maka ingon nalang noon nga unsa man ning DVO og CDO mga pala away man! naa ra ba sa inyong mga signature nga golden friendship and 5 rank most livable in asia tas palaway diay ug nahutdan og respeto! Ang mahimutang ana wala gi gamit ang inyong pag ka professional mga bright ra ba unta kay puro english. Nya mang gawas ra tungod sa away lang...sus haskang biliba nako ninyo.

Nag cge man lang mo ug away basin sa inyong developments. Walay pilde sa inyong away kay puro man ALAS. Why not promote nalang sa kada city and region para mo samot og uswag. Help promote MINDANAO nalang! Like CARAGA the 2nd poorest region in the country kay bago lang sya... pero nangita og paagi to promote the region. tsk tsk tsk. Walay makuha sa AWAY. mag sakit lang inyong dughan basa sa mga comments and replies. Undanga ng sge ug away sa thread kay ang makabasa ani nga taga lain lugar maka ingon nalang noon nga unsa man ning DVO og CDO mga pala away man! naa ra ba sa inyong mga signature nga golden friendship and 5 rank most livable in asia tas palaway diay ug nahutdan og respeto! Ang mahimutang ana wala gi gamit ang inyong pag ka professional mga bright ra ba unta kay puro english. Nya mang gawas ra tungod sa away lang...sus haskang biliba nako ninyo.

Na, sa una ra ko ana nga view @regjeex nga bag-o pa ko ato ga-lurk diri sa CdeO thread. Sa una, ga-lurk pud ko sa pikas pero daghan mga dili maayo nga post daun padungog-dungog pa. Bisan lurker ta, bati man gud nang ingon ana nga post. Usahay maka-apil na lang ta kay sobra naman gud ning uban diri. Perte ka perpekto pero tanan diay to mga maskara ra diay. Naa pay uban diri paminaw nila invincible og perfect na gyud sila. Mao nang giingon nako before nga tanan tawo sa net, pakitang tao ra og naay kaugalingon nga agenda nganong naa sila diri.:ohno:

Speaking of perpekto nga tawo, naa gani uban nga mas perpekto pa sa mga institutions nato nga mga "hiwi" usahay (kundili kanunay), nga moingon fluctuated daw ang data nato diri. Unsa sila? nanag-iya og mga statistical firm kay moingon sila og fluctuated data?

mao baya na nga taga survey naay "margin of error" pero kung moingon ka nga fluctuated ang data, then adto sa institution nga nag release ato nga data. Dili kay mo-post ka diri sa thread nga mao na, ang resulta ana nga view gibutang nimo nga tanan data nga gi-pang post sa mga tawo diri puro fluctuated. Kabalo ba ka unsay fluctuated? Ang fluctuated depende na kung unsay hinungdan sa pag fluctuate. Pwedeng gi-fluctuate or ni-fluctuate siya for some reasons.

Di ba @wadaboy? maayo nang klaro ta ba, kung reklamo kag fluctuated data, ayaw og reklamo diri, adto didto sa NSO aron maklaro imong pangutana. Dili kay magsige kag usig diri nga mura kag perpekto nga kabalo ka tanan.

Na, sa una ra ko ana nga view @regjeex nga bag-o pa ko ato ga-lurk diri sa CdeO thread. Sa una, ga-lurk pud ko sa pikas pero daghan mga dili maayo nga post daun padungog-dungog pa. Bisan lurker ta, bati man gud nang ingon ana nga post. Usahay maka-apil na lang ta kay sobra naman gud ning uban diri. Perte ka perpekto pero tanan diay to mga maskara ra diay. Naa pay uban diri paminaw nila invincible og perfect na gyud sila. Mao nang giingon nako before nga tanan tawo sa net, pakitang tao ra og naay kaugalingon nga agenda nganong naa sila diri.:ohno:

Speaking of perpekto nga tawo, naa gani uban nga mas perpekto pa sa mga institutions nato nga mga "hiwi" usahay (kundili kanunay), nga moingon fluctuated daw ang data nato diri. Unsa sila? nanag-iya og mga statistical firm kay moingon sila og fluctuated data?

mao baya na nga taga survey naay "margin of error" pero kung moingon ka nga fluctuated ang data, then adto sa institution nga nag release ato nga data. Dili kay mo-post ka diri sa thread nga mao na, ang resulta ana nga view gibutang nimo nga tanan data nga gi-pang post sa mga tawo diri puro fluctuated. Kabalo ba ka unsay fluctuated? Ang fluctuated depende na kung unsay hinungdan sa pag fluctuate. Pwedeng gi-fluctuate or ni-fluctuate siya for some reasons.

Di ba @wadaboy? maayo nang klaro ta ba, kung reklamo kag fluctuated data, ayaw og reklamo diri, adto didto sa NSO aron maklaro imong pangutana. Dili kay magsige kag usig diri nga mura kag perpekto nga kabalo ka tanan.

Suko lagi ka?

Nakasabot na man ang imong kauban nga si J.Walter gi explain pa gani niya maayo ang stats nga iyang gi pakita. Wala namay problema sa NSA nga stat.

Na unsa man ka oi.

copy/paste ko sa post ni j.walter (j,walter if you don't mind)

I think this is a forum right ? , everyone is free to post any IMOs and be corrected here in an orderly manner I hope ?, anyway thanks for the clarification @Wadaboy regarding the fluctuation, it greatly explain the scenario, if we check the population of those removed from the 2007 data...

From 2007 data (Areas removed from Davao Region)

475,514 SARANGANI
767,254 SOUTH COTABATO *

If you add all those numbers, it reach near 1.2M, That explain the population drop from 2000 to 2007 Davao Region population.

Caraga is part of R10 also not until it was separated by the Republic Act 7901, removing Agusan del Norte, Agusan del, Sur, Surigao del Norte and the cities of Butuan and Surigao in 1995.

Since that time 1995 there is no changes for R10 clusters not until Lanao del Norte and Iligan was added to R10. I think this is the reason for the big (million) increase in R10 from 2000 to 2007 census which shows more than a million increase due to the newly added Lanao del Nortel and Iligan.

From 2007 (Areas added to Region 10)

538,283 LANAO DEL NORTE *
308,046 ILIGAN CITY

so.... wala nay dapat lalisan.....

Suko lagi ka?

Nakasabot na man ang imong kauban nga si J.Walter gi explain pa gani niya maayo ang stats nga iyang gi pakita. Wala namay problema sa NSA nga stat.

Na unsa man ka oi.

wala ko nasuko oi. :lol:

dili man mi kauban ni j.walter og wala mi affiliation with each other. Ang ako lang to punto, kung panan-aw nimo fluctuated ang data nga preha sa imong giingon, ayaw diri og reklamo. Remember, ikaw baya nag point about sa fluctuated data in answer to my "laughing" smiley because of the population growth nga abi nimog gikataw-an taka mao nang nitubag kag "fluctuated" data to point out nga miserable ang data namo diri.

Im jst pointing out na go to a respective entity nga pwede nimo na i-ask like the institution kung asa gikan ang data and not here coz people are not here to answer you regarding the supposed "fluctuated" data.

Kay kung padayon pa ghapon ka or other forumers nga mag point nga fluctuated ang data dri, then some people would think the opposite nganong sige kag point nga fluctuated ang data diri. Then some forumers will think na gubot ang pangita nimo.

mao lang na aron mohunong na ang gubot.

wala ko nasuko oi. :lol:

dili man mi kauban ni j.walter og wala mi affiliation with each other. Ang ako lang to punto, kung panan-aw nimo fluctuated ang data nga preha sa imong giingon, ayaw diri og reklamo. Remember, ikaw baya nag point about sa fluctuated data in answer to my "laughing" smiley because of the population growth nga abi nimog gikataw-an taka mao nang nitubag kag "fluctuated" data to point out nga miserable ang data namo diri.

Im jst pointing out na go to a respective entity nga pwede nimo na i-ask like the institution kung asa gikan ang data and not here coz people are not here to answer you regarding the supposed "fluctuated" data.

Kay kung padayon pa ghapon ka or other forumers nga mag point nga fluctuated ang data dri, then some people would think the opposite nganong sige kag point nga fluctuated ang data diri. Then some forumers will think na gubot ang pangita nimo.

mao lang na aron mohunong na ang gubot.

Wala may problema ang NSO tama man to tanan
Ang boot naku gi ingon nga fluctuating kay ang saka naug nga figures tungod sa ga usab usab ang clustering sa Davao Region.... busa dili ko mo reklamo sa NSO kay tama man ilang data....

Na-a lay confusion sa interpretation gamay mao na ang gina explain ni j.walter... ok

peace na oi..... nag discussion ra man ta diri dba about population issues.....imbis lami na unta kaayo sigig banat ug mga ideas nagubot na inoon... sige clear na ni nga issue.

:lol:

^^I think the ideal scenario would be like this...Medium-sized population + High Gross Regional Product. This means that most people get High-Income because compeition for jobs/resources wouldn't be very tough. Like Switzerland, this country has a more efficient social services system & better standard of living than the U.S. even though the U.S. is the richest nation (This is because most of the wealth of the U.S. is monopolized by the Biggest Corporations while only a few of the wealth tricles down to the low-middle class).

In this aspect I think NorMin performs extremely well because even though its population isn't the largest in Mindanao it still has the Largest GRDP in Mindanao. This means the produce are shared by fewer people resulting in a higher standard of living.

Yeah, maayo g-hapon ang K9. I heard gubot ang K9 krn but I hope magpadayon pa japon sila. \m/ :)

Mao ba? I heard something about the gitarista nila or something.... kay gi-invite man akong barkada na mo-play with them on-behalf para sa concert sa Urban. Sana wala yung "rockstar" attitude... you know unsa na...

Hahay... Well, on the brighter side, na progressive tayong lahat, payts na na!

Help naman! Do you have any crack key for Adobe CS3? (In-design, ug photoshop, payts na... prive ko beh?)

Download diay sa internet? 42Mb na siya :)

For those who travel a lot like me.. here is your Smart Cellular Coverage..

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Source
http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=ph&net=s1

Some aspects are already showing positive, eg, PPA(Sea Ports) stats, # of subdivisions, # of cell sites, dsl, etc. , there is a great increase compared 10 years ago and the numbers are growing steady so far...

like market demand of condominium units something?

DOST-10 trains engineers on cleaner production technology

by Tess Superioridad Baluyos

Cagayan de Oro City (6 November) -- Safe disposal of wastes…energy conservation…. environmental management… these are the major concerns that can be achieved when cleaner production (CP) technologies are applied in production process.

Once again, the Department of Science and Technology (DOST) in Region 10, in cooperation with Xavier University College of Engineering and the Food Processors Association in Region 10 (FOPANORMIN), conducted two batches of seminars on cleaner production technology.

This time, the participants were engineers and those aiming to become cleaner production consultants/assessors.

Held last October 20-24, the participants will eventually become members of the Cleaner Production Assessment Team (CPAT) in Region 10.

Both seminars are aimed to improve the knowledge and skills of the engineers in the field of cleaner production technologies.

The knowledge and skills the participants gained from the seminars are needed in assisting the small and medium enterprises (SMEs) in improving productivity.

It will also help these SMEs conserve and protect the environment by minimizing wastes at source.

To date, several companies and businesses, mostly SMEs, have received CP technical and training assistance from the Department of Science and Technology (DOST).

These SMEs include VJANDEP (pastry), Darling Food Products (meat processing), Maestrado Tableya Products of Camiguin, to name only a few.

Source

http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=12&fi=p081106.htm&no=93

DOST grants scholarship to upcoming college students taking up science courses

by Tess Superioridad Baluyos

Cagayan de Oro City (6 November) -- At least 4,000 scholarship slots are to be awarded by the Department of Science and Technology (DOST) to qualified high school graduating students who wish to take up college courses in science, technology, and engineering.

The DOST undergraduate science scholarship program has two components: Program A, known as R.A. 7687, is designed for poor but bright students whose family annual gross income is less than 156,000 pesos.

On the other hand, those who have higher family income may apply under Program B (Merit).

Applicants under the Merit category are required to pay a non-refundable test fee of 200 pesos.

Qualified to apply for both scholarship programs are high school graduating students who belong to the upper five percent (5%) of the graduating class; must be natural-born Filipino citizen; must be a resident of the municipality/district for the last four years; of good moral character; of good health; and must have no pending application for resident/immigrant status in any foreign country.

Selection of DOST scholars is through a competitive examination which will be held on 09 November 2008.

Successful examinees will enjoy the following benefits: free tuition and other school fees; allowance for prescribed textbooks and essential school supplies; outright grant for prescribed military science/PE uniform (first year only); free transportation for one economy-class round-trip fare between the scholar's permanent residence and place of study; group health and accident insurance; and a monthly allowance of 3,000 pesos.

Deadline for submission of application is on September 30, 2008.

For further details, visit the DOST-10 regional office at Carmen (near City Hospital), Cagayan de Oro City, or its nearest provincial science and technology center in your area, or call telephone numbers (88)858-67-90; 858-39-31; (8822)72-38-02), or visit the DOST-10 website: region10.dost.gov.ph. (DOST-10)

Source

http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=12&fi=p081106.htm&no=92

Sweet sorghum one of high-yielding ethanol-producing feedstocks, says Sen. Zubiri

by Babes Jacob-Rebultan

Cagayan de Oro City (5 November) -- "Sweet Sorghum has been proven as one of the high-yielding ethanol-producing feedstock in the country," said Senator Juan Miguel Zubiri a recent press conference in Cagayan de Oro City.

The National Bio-fuels Program (NBP) has recommended sweet sorghum as a promising feedstock that can be used for the production of both bio-diesel and bio-ethanol, he said.

The NBP has recommended three feedstocks for ethanol production in the country and these are sugarcane, cassava and sweet sorghum, he reported.

He added that people always hear of Jatropha or sugar cane as source for the production of ethanol, but this time, a different alternative is being presented, which is Sweet Sorghum that can best be utilized as feeds for animals and for ethanol production for gasoline.

There are two different kinds of feedstocks: one is for diesel and the other is for ethanol for gasoline. Jatropha can produce bio-diesel, while sweet sorghum can produce bio-ethanol, he also said, adding that these two feedstocks have big potential and are competitive and viable.

He said farmers now have the option either to plant sugarcane, jatropha or sweet sorghum, depending on the soil area suitable for planting.

Sweet sorghum grows well in sharp and dry areas, while jatropha, in high sloping areas, and in cogonal lands, he explained.

"If you're a farmer and frustrated with corn and you want to change crop, you can plant sweet sorghum because this could be utilized for food or can be delivered to an ethanol plant for processing," Zubiri encourage stakeholders, especially the farmers.

He clarified that sweet sorghum, locally known as "batad," is edible, meaning these can be eaten by human beings, as well as animals.

According to the feedstock program focal person, President Marriz B. Agbon of the Philippine Agricultural Development and Commercial Corporation (PADCC), the Philippines now has two on-the-ground ethanol projects that use sweet sorghum.

One is an integrated bio-ethanol and bio-diesel project by the First Pampanga Biofuels Corporation and the other one is a government project imitated by the municipality of Cabiao, Nueva Ecija.

He said they are set to build their own ethanol distillery plants, which should be ready for the 2011 ethanol-mandated blend.

Senator Zubiri said this means that under the law, it is 1% blending, 1% biofuel and 2% blending by 2009.

So far, he clarified that our production is low, so that sometimes the country resorts to importation of biofuel blend.

The thrust of PADCC for sweet sorghum at present is to keep on promoting and convincing farmers and investors alike to put their efforts and money in sweet sorghum production, Marriz stressed.

Based on a report from PADCC, after extraction, sweet sorghum can produce up to 425 liters of juice per year, quite comparable to sugarcane's 444 liters.

This will then be distilled and processed to produce anhydrous alcohol amounting to 7,250 liters for sweet sorghum, 4,550 liters for sugarcane and 1,440 liters for cassava, which is starch-based feedstock.

He said that the biofuels industry may be the key to the country's goal of energy self-sufficiency, while protecting the environment and providing livelihood and profit for the rural Filipino. (PIA-MisOrOccCam)

Source

http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=12&fi=p081105.htm&no=66

Download diay sa internet? 42Mb na siya :)
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^^I think the ideal scenario would be like this...Medium-sized population + High Gross Regional Product. This means that most people get High-Income because compeition for jobs/resources wouldn't be very tough. Like Switzerland, this country has a more efficient social services system & better standard of living than the U.S. even though the U.S. is the richest nation (This is because most of the wealth of the U.S. is monopolized by the Biggest Corporations while only a few of the wealth tricles down to the low-middle class).

In this aspect I think NorMin performs extremely well because even though its population isn't the largest in Mindanao it still has the Largest GRDP in Mindanao. This means the produce are shared by fewer people resulting in a higher standard of living.

perfectly said and done. :) ^^

musta na ang ororama? kita gyud ko sa pagka sunog... mao gyuy pag-agi nako going to davao...

i went to nazareno church earlier this 7pm. Msgr. Monsanto celebrated the mass. before he ended the mass, he said that in a few years time the people with cars cannot park right outside nazareno church anymore. tinnex is planning on widening the road. monsanto also said that there will be a "building" right across nazareno church because you-know-who will put up a establishment there. furthermore, he also said that there is a plan to make the cm recto a commercial district. i wasnt able to comprehend all that he said but thats what he said.

i went to nazareno church earlier this 7pm. Msgr. Monsanto celebrated the mass. before he ended the mass, he said that in a few years time the people with cars cannot park right outside nazareno church anymore. tinnex is planning on widening the road. monsanto also said that there will be a "building" right across nazareno church because you-know-who will put up a establishment there. furthermore, he also said that there is a plan to make the cm recto a commercial district. i wasnt able to comprehend all that he said but thats what he said.

For now, rumors pa gihapon tanan gisulti ni Msgr. Monsanto kay wa man hard evidence to prove what he said is true... Chismoso diay gihapon ang mga pari, no? Joke lang, ha! He! He! He! :-)

For now, rumors pa gihapon tanan gisulti ni Msgr. Monsanto kay wa man hard evidence to prove what he said is true... Chismoso diay gihapon ang mga pari, no? Joke lang, ha! He! He! He! :-)

not to worry ill get all the necessary proof that we need.

by the way, asa dapit ng DBM dha sa bulua?

by the way, asa dapit ng DBM dha sa bulua?

Coming from the western part of the city (sentro Bulua), mga 100 to 200 meters lang from the intersection going to Patag... Right side ang DBM... Atbang ang lote na gi-kural... Medyo dako, Bai... :-)

ill try to find first the site of the 10 storey korean hotel/commercial bldg. then ill check out the one in bulua

ill try to find first the site of the 10 storey korean hotel/commercial bldg. then ill check out the one in bulua

OK, Bai... Hapit na pud mahuman ang pag-pintal sa Polymedic Medical Plaza... Naka-Aluminum Cladding sa front area... Basin maka-soft opening ra before the year ends... :-)

i noticed year after year that there are foreign concerts held in cdeo. there was one time that a dj from a local radio here said that cagay-anons are so choosy when it comes to concerts. basta daw local nga banda, gamay ra gapanan-aw pero basta foreigner pirmi puno bisan tood mahal. ambot ning mga cagay-anons oi! hehehe! :lol:

i noticed year after year that there are foreign concerts held in cdeo. there was one time that a dj from a local radio here said that cagay-anons are so choosy when it comes to concerts. basta daw local nga banda, gamay ra gapanan-aw pero basta foreigner pirmi puno bisan tood mahal. ambot ning mga cagay-anons oi! hehehe! :lol:

I wonder why mas mahal kon local artists (Sharon, Gary, etc...)... 3,000 o 3,500 gud ang pinakamahal and sa Corpus Christi pa gyud i-hold... Kon international artist, sa LKK Atrium gyud pero 1,500 o 2,000 ra ang pinakamahal... If I'm not mistaken, 1,000 lang ang pinakamahal na ticket for sale sa Toto Concert... Salamat sa producers... I think!?! :-)

I wonder why mas mahal kon local artists (Sharon, Gary, etc...)... 3,000 o 3,500 gud ang pinakamahal and sa Corpus Christi pa gyud i-hold... Kon international artist, sa LKK Atrium gyud pero 1,500 o 2,000 ra ang pinakamahal... If I'm not mistaken, 1,000 lang ang pinakamahal na ticket for sale sa Toto Concert... Salamat sa producers... I think!?! :-)


abi nako mas mahal ang foreign kay foreign man. sa ako nahibloan katong sila bamboo kay cheaper raman to.

what made you find land area has got to do with my post? and whats your logical reason to directly relate pop groth rate and land area? populantion issue was discuussed here for some dream of mtropolitan status. and allof a sudden thare was posted a comparative data of 2 regions. by me presenting another (but amore detailed) data, did i say anythig to get this Does having a bigger population means progress? You even have a bigger population than Cebu City but quite far behind on their progress. what do yo want to imply?

does populatio size here means small is progressive if by stats showing a city has no big dofference in employment and unemploymeent rate from a small city almost 3x smaller its pop size. if cdo has 1.3mil pop now, can its economy provid jobs at employment rate provided by davo city, with all yor hype of econommic activities?

based on nso davao, population rise in davao city was largely attributed to influx of economic migrants and those from conflict areas in mindanap. they came to davao city not bec they saw plenty of land there but opportunities of jobs for a better life. thay are asset to the economy. they grow the consumer market of the city. and for some reason, davos market base extended to as far as your city!

if cebu city is in the heartland of mindanao, do you think it would have the same level of progres it has today? cebu city may have smaller population but its human resources extends beyond its border. from across cities amd towns around it

What made me found land area had something to do with your post? It has something to do with you comparing the population of two cities (Cagayan de Oro and Davao City) that are totally a mismatch in terms of land area, coverage et al. Davao City is considered to be one of the largest cities in the world and considering that fact, it has the greater probability of owning a bigger population.

What made me relate population growth rate with land area? Did I? I was just trying to dig deeper on what lies beneath your point of comparing the population of two cities. I was trying to decipher if your post was a valid argument simply because the discussion was focused only on a single paradigm, a comparison of the population growth rate of NORTHERN MINDANAO AND SOUTHERN MINDANAO as a whole and not between the cities of Cagayan de Oro and Davao. The parameter was set and it seems that you've deviated from it.

Yes, the population issue was tackled based on a dream of a metropolitan status but what was clearly presented was the latest population census with emphasis on two regions, northern and southern mindanao, no more no less. And it is funny to hear and read Filipinos that are hooked into the celebrated debate of what is a metro when in fact a clear cut definition is stated in websters dictionary that a metro is pertaining to a metropolitan. And what is a metropolitan? It pertains to a characteristic of a metropolis. And what is a metropolis? A chief city of a country or region, any busy center of commerce etc. By virtue of this definition, Cagayan de Oro has long attained the status of a metro considering that it is the chief city of Northern Mindanao. It is no longer a dream and as a kagay-anon, I could safely say that I am from METRO CAGAYAN DE ORO.

And lastly, I agree that Davao market has reached Cagayan de Oro. But Cagayan de Oro's market has reached Davao too and it has reached the entire island considering that it is the gateway of Mindanao, the hub of domestic transhipment and a certified international shipping destination.The goods that are brought and displayed here are being transported to the rest of the island.

mao lagi,tingala pud ko ngano masuko si michael ray, wala man unta ngangaway si wadabboy...sigh. unsaon n lang diay ni? dili n b pwede magkaroon dito ng intelligent conversation, for a change?

kanang data, maski unsa ka reliable, there is always room for discussion.

I was not mad to wadaboy. Do not accuse me of something that I haven't commited. I was only pissed off with certain individuals here who are good in concealing their own personal motives.

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Let this policy remind everyone especially to that guy whos username starts with P. Your city is so nice, so great, so blessed but infected with selfish and arrogant people like you. And for that? Your place deserves isolation precaution, to isolate only those who deserves it most.

i noticed year after year that there are foreign concerts held in cdeo. there was one time that a dj from a local radio here said that cagay-anons are so choosy when it comes to concerts. basta daw local nga banda, gamay ra gapanan-aw pero basta foreigner pirmi puno bisan tood mahal. ambot ning mga cagay-anons oi! hehehe! :lol:

forgive me if i have to butt in.. arent you promoting local talents? i mean are there any movement or groups encouraging the locals to patronize cdo original music? by d way i wnt 2 cdo d past week, and will be coming over ds week again..ahihihihi ngita ko mga bars n ga tugtug ug original music not the covered ones... tapos ask lang pud unta ko unsa specialty fud sa cdo? i want to try ur dishes...tnx:)

na mao, kung ang mga first world countries ga try og control sa population, diri sa pinas naay mga cities nga proud sa population growth...:lol:

not always the case bai

in Singapore, they are actually encouraging nga mag anak ang mga tao kay naa silay ginaapas na population growth apan dili makaya kay dili tanan mag-anak or magpamilya

the Prime MInister even released "dating tips" para sa mga singles and daghan incentives para mag anak ang couples

ang explanation sa akoa kay kinahanglan ang large population to boost the economy kay kinsa may mugamit sa mga infrastructure (like MRT and buses and kung unsa pa nga ilang gigastuhan kung gamay ray tao)kinsa may mamalit sa mga tindahan ug mangaon sa mga kan-anan

ang problem lang siguro is sa mga first world countries hilabi na ang mga gagmay ug population, dili man gud priority ang mag-anak (as in the case sa mga kaila nako na SIngaporeans where theyd rather daw nga mag alaga ug iro than mag anak)

forgive me if i have to butt in.. arent you promoting local talents? i mean are there any movement or groups encouraging the locals to patronize cdo original music? by d way i wnt 2 cdo d past week, and will be coming over ds week again..ahihihihi ngita ko mga bars n ga tugtug ug original music not the covered ones... tapos ask lang pud unta ko unsa specialty fud sa cdo? i want to try ur dishes...tnx:)

no harm done. as to your queries, the city government has been planning to put back that tradition of having a mini concert in divisoria every sunday featuring local artists. For local kagay-anon cuisines? Try some dish made of ostrich meat for Cagayan de Oro has its own Ostrich farm, I think TOWN in THE SITE offers this. I am not sure, though.

What made me found land area had something to do with your post? It has something to do with you comparing the population of two cities (Cagayan de Oro and Davao City) that are totally a mismatch in terms of land area, coverage et al. Davao City is considered to be one of the largest cities in the world and considering that fact, it has the greater probability of owning a bigger population.
excuse me, did i say anything on the data comparing sizes of 2 populations? have you seen what were encircled in the table? those were annual population growth rate i gave emphasis. what are you talking about? and for being the premir urban centre of mindanao, youre right it is the main population centre. is there any other?

What made me relate population growth rate with land area? Did I?
really? how did you get to understand this post below? Was there any other tabulated data posted that i wasnt aware i did?

Expected. Logically? It follows. Statistics? It's valid. Considering that DAVAO CITY is larger in terms of land area than Cagayan de Oro then that reason is good enough. So?


I was just trying to dig deeper on what lies beneath your point of comparing the population of two cities. I was trying to decipher if your post was a valid argument simply because the discussion was focused only on a single paradigm, a comparison of the population growth rate of NORTHERN MINDANAO AND SOUTHERN MINDANAO as a whole and not between the cities of Cagayan de Oro and Davao. The parameter was set and it seems that you've deviated from it.
Yes, the population issue was tackled based on a dream of a metropolitan status but what was clearly presented was the latest population census with emphasis on two regions, northern and southern mindanao, no more no less.

really? scroll down to my post where you gave reaction. wasnt it regional figures in there? the cities were were framed to remind how far discussion have gone from where it started on poputlion growth of your city. were you not discussing “metropolitan“ of your city?

And it is funny to hear and read Filipinos that are hooked into the celebrated debate of what is a metro when in fact a clear cut definition is stated in websters dictionary that a metro is pertaining to a metropolitan. And what is a metropolitan? It pertains to a characteristic of a metropolis. And what is a metropolis? A chief city of a country or region, any busy center of commerce etc. By virtue of this definition, Cagayan de Oro has long attained the status of a metro considering that it is the chief city of Northern Mindanao. It is no longer a dream and as a kagay-anon, I could safely say that I am from METRO CAGAYAN DE ORO.
nobody will hold back your holding very tightly to that metro thing. you have all the rights to come up with your own interprtaions you want to keep to yourself. whats important, i and recognised institutional bodies know the defining difference.

And lastly, I agree that Davao market has reached Cagayan de Oro. But Cagayan de Oro's market has reached Davao too and it has reached the entire island considering that it is the gateway of Mindanao, the hub of domestic transhipment and a certified international shipping destination.The goods that are brought and displayed here are being transported to the rest of the island.
gateway of mindanao? how many flights services there are in cdo in a day? did you know davao get 65% of total air traffic to the island and cdo has only 24% share? is that a gateway? is there open gate for travelers from overeas direct into you city? if none can you call that a gateway? i know the davao internatioal seaport is the busiest. and i know domestic cargo sgipping is on regular calls to major cities in luzon and visayas. but i dint know cdo consumer market included davao city. what i knew, not long ago a truckload of imported steel products and construction matrials from davao bound for cdo was intercepted by cops before it could reach your city. it was known that your middle class were buying properties in davao, and many more like stories[/QUOTE]

Philippine Airlines features six places on its 2008 Calendar.

January and February - Tokyo It is said that on a clear day, one can see Mt. Fuji's omnipresence even from the remotest part of Japan. Mt. Fuji is worshipped and immortalized in songs and poetry. In art, it is the most drawn mountain in the world. Mt. Fuji can cast a spell with its beauty and symmetry. Changing colors with time of day and with the seasons. In winter, it is pure white, it turns bluish with a white crown of snow. And during every sunset, it glows red in a darkening horizon.

March and April - Laoag The La Paz sand dunes in Laoag, north of the Philippines, may look dry and arid, but these have fed the fertile imagination of local and Hollywood filmmakers alike. Among the classic films shot on this location were "Born on the Fourth of July" with Tom Cruise and "Mad Max" with Mel Gibson. Laoag is a picturesque city that threads the future with the past. Giant futuristic windmills dot her shores while centuries-old houses and churches fill her landscape; stretching all the way down to Vigan in Ilocos Sur. Many of these are now in the world Heritage list.

May and June - Sydney There is another face of Sydney that may be well more magnificent than her Opera House or Darling Harbour. It is the Blue Mountain, a World Heritage park less than an hour away from the city. The Blue Mountain is a dreamland covered in a deep blue haze not found in any opther parts of the world. It is where a biodiversity of plant and animal communities continues to thrive. And where legends continue to be told. More famous is the Three Sisters, a group of rock formations standing more than 3,000 feet high. It is said that these were once three beautiful women who were turned into stone as a disguise to keep them from harm's way.

July and August - Puerto Princessa Ecologist and explorer Jacques Cousteau described it as the most beautiful place he evere explored. So much so that its famous St. Paul subterranean river is now protected as a World Heritage Site. The place is Palawan, an island province south of the Philippines, with Puerto Princessa as its capital. Palawan is considered to be one of the last unexplored islands in the pacific. A haven for some of the world's most exotic flora and fauna.

September and October - Las Vegas Three hundred miles from Las Vegas is the largest footprint of Earth's history - the Grand Canyon. Selected as one of the seven natural wonders of the world and a World Heritage Site, the Grand Canyon took over 6 million years to create. Its exposed layers of rock, carved by the Colorado River, tell the story of the Earth's evolution dating as far back as 2 billion years. Majestic and overwhelming, the Grand Canyon is considered to be the most beautiful place in America.

November and December - Cagayan de Oro Cagayan de Oro is one of the premier cities in Mindanao, Philippines. And the gateway of the volcanic island of Camiguin. Considered as one of the Philippines' top 25 tourist destinations, Camiguin island is a concentration of hot and cold springs, waterfalls, lagoons, rainforest, coral reefs, and the tropical fruit Lanzones. More famous is the White Island that appears by day and vanishes by dusk. Blanketed by powdery white sand, White Island may yet rival world-famous sands of Boracay.

There you go folks. I just discovered this as I turned my calendar for the month of November and I was surprised that our very own Cagayan de Oro and Camiguin are one of places featured for its 2008 calendar. Included in the calendar are the pictures of Camiguin Island and the white water rafting adventure in CdeO. It is something to smile on before the year ends... :)

^^ Philippine airlines must be wrong to name us one of the premier cities in mindanao. shame on pal :D

according to atty so and so iisa lang talaga ang premier city :D

:ohno:^^^^^^

starting the flame agen.

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A population census between two regions was the only one that was presented. And the succeding arguments went as far as comparing population growth rate of Cagayan de Oro and Davao City. How far was that? As to the metropolitan discussion, they were based on the strategic plan being worked hand in hand by both the government and private sects here and that plan started since the 1990s. People here were just discussing on the developments of this project so what's the fuzz? And if you're affected with your daily flight schedules, we have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment. :) Yes, I recognize that your port is a premier international destination, that's why I haven't mentioned that our seaports here are the busiest though I mentioned they're one of the certified international destinations. Take note, the international shipping here has just started with the advent of MCT. And you know what, I live near Mindanao Container Terminal and loads of containers are increasing, with two more cranes to be added to the already existing two. This port complements with Oro Port that has been busy too with its daily economic contribution. And oh, may I know how much does your custom earn for shipping? :) And to address your perplexity whether CdeO has reached Davao Market, I suggest that you check the definition of a market using your own business dictionary. Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here. And hey, your fellow forumers have been crying out loud, don't compare your city with other medium sized cities like CdeO because we're not of the same level. But the thing is, who loves to visit our threads and make some comments and comparisons. Well... :) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros. We're just a medium sized city but we're very excited with our developments. Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao. We never thought that our city would transform into some sort of a metropolis. And we are amazed with the fact that our city has been a major concert destination in the country. :) They just came and they're blessings. :) I certainly understand some people who keep on suppressing the thought that other cities have been emerging to be progressive. Sigh... As psychology would say... The primary defense mechanism of humans is denial. Have a great night CdeO. Oh! My friends who are teachers of Sacred Heart of Jesus HS Cebu are coming this December to experience white water rafting. Nakz, lahi ra gyud ang original ba? Pilit na ginaya, hindi naman nakaya... Katkat CdeO! Umaakyat ka, hindi bumababa... :)Padayon CdeO! Padayon Normin!

I wonder why mas mahal kon local artists (Sharon, Gary, etc...)... 3,000 o 3,500 gud ang pinakamahal and sa Corpus Christi pa gyud i-hold... Kon international artist, sa LKK Atrium gyud pero 1,500 o 2,000 ra ang pinakamahal... If I'm not mistaken, 1,000 lang ang pinakamahal na ticket for sale sa Toto Concert... Salamat sa producers... I think!?! :-)

bitaw bisan asa man cguro... mahal ning mga sharon mga gary.... hahahaha.

nagconcert pud diay toto cdo? gituyok gyud diay niya ang pinas noh? concert pud xa sa tagum ug davao.. maypas toto gituyok ang mindanao. ang mga hilas na mga pinoy na beterano na kuno... once in a blue moon lang. hehe

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More concerts in CdeO...

November 19 - Toto
December 1 - Christopher Cross
December 5 - Apo Hiking Society

Thanks dark for the pm. So... something is coming this 2009... :) CdeO, you're a medium sized city. You don't deserve this! :)

Nice pics of CdeO you got there, Reancorbz! I might be in Davao City next weekend to visit my grandma and uncle sa davao memorial park. Wasn't able to visit 'em last undas. I'll stay with my cousin's house in Ladislawa in Buhangin. :)

oh nice michael_ray. hehehe. mangape ta..

Manileños really love CDO's nature adventure. here's another blog...

Kumareng Grace (http://kumarenggrace.i.ph/blogs/kumarenggrace/2008/04/26/adventure-in-cagayan-de-oro/)...

Tama man ang data sa NSO wala may problema ana...
Dili lang siya dapat i-compare kay naga usab usab ang clustering sa Davao Region (formerly Southern Mindanao).

Repost ko na lang:

1990 - 4,006,731 (kasali ang Surigao del Sur)
1995 - 4,604,158 (kasali ang Sultan Kudarat)
2000 - 5,189,335 (Kasali ang Sarangani at South Cotabato)
2007 - 4,156,653 (Davao City, Davao Norte, Davao Sur, Davao Or. na lang ang natira)

projection

2008 - 4,222,800
2009 - 4,291,900
2010 - 4,362,400


The Comparison should start on 2007

NorMin Population

2007 - 3,952,437

projection

2008 - 4,174,100
2009 - 4,260,100
2010 - 4,349,300

Note:

Davao Region Population Growth - 1.71
North Mindanao Population Growth - 1.67

Mura man gud ug nalipay sa j.walter nga nigamay ang lamang sa Davao Region, natingala lang ko nga gi-base niya ang data sa NSO for comparison with encircle pa nga fluctuating man ang mga figures sa Davao Region. Wala bay na-usab sa clustering sa Normin between 2000 to 2007?

Ay sori na wadaboy kay nakaligtaan lang naman na nawala sa inyo ang Gensan ug South Cotabato and others. Pero nawala man pod sa R10 ang 3 pRobinsya ug 2 ka siyudad nga maoy nagcompose karon sa kinabag-ang CARAGA region. hinoon sab napulihan ang paghawa sa Caraga ug usa ka probinsya ug syudad, ang LdN ug Iligan.


official count 2007

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/censusdvo.jpg
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/sectordata/2007/province.pdf

ah grabe pati population pag awayan! :lol:

Expected. Logically? It follows. Statistics? It's valid. Considering that DAVAO CITY is larger in terms of land area than Cagayan de Oro then that reason is good enough. So? Does having a bigger population means progress? You even have a bigger population than Cebu City but quite far behind on their progress. :)

Oo nga.

:lol: kasi binigyan agad ng meaning eh. who cares about population explosion? i dont, id rather have CDO to have less than a million. kasi, the more the population, the more squatters, bigger rate of crime, bigger traffic, bigger in everything! so id rather live in a barrio-esque like CDO, mas peaceful mas maigi. :)

Ok lang kung tourist arrival ang magdaghan, wag lang local population :)

na mao, kung ang mga first world countries ga try og control sa population, diri sa pinas naay mga cities nga proud sa population growth...:lol:

Dili gyod ko pabor anang daghan population ba. Proud ko kung pang record breaking pero sa ibang side hindi kailangan sa isang bansang katulad natin ang magtaas pa ng population. Dami na ng squatters :ohno:

^^ All I know majority of the richer country has lower growth rate. IMO.

Dahil busy sila sa work, dito sa Pinas, walang ibang mahibangan kundi pag gawa lang ng bata :lol::lol:

definitely. But why compare with population growth rate?

Ah, maybe because higher population growth rate = more people = more purchasing population + higher city categorization?

Depende ei kung walang mga trabaho papano na..? Yung higher city categorization na sinabi mo dahil sa dami ng population, well padagdag metro thingy lang otherwise politiko lang makinabang nyan... :)

^^ Bigger population means bigger market, however purchasing power per region also matters.

Correct ka jan...

i went to nazareno church earlier this 7pm. Msgr. Monsanto celebrated the mass. before he ended the mass, he said that in a few years time the people with cars cannot park right outside nazareno church anymore. tinnex is planning on widening the road. monsanto also said that there will be a "building" right across nazareno church because you-know-who will put up a establishment there. furthermore, he also said that there is a plan to make the cm recto a commercial district. i wasnt able to comprehend all that he said but thats what he said.

For now, rumors pa gihapon tanan gisulti ni Msgr. Monsanto kay wa man hard evidence to prove what he said is true... Chismoso diay gihapon ang mga pari, no? Joke lang, ha! He! He! He! :-)

Nagbinotbot kaha si Monsignor?

i noticed year after year that there are foreign concerts held in cdeo. there was one time that a dj from a local radio here said that cagay-anons are so choosy when it comes to concerts. basta daw local nga banda, gamay ra gapanan-aw pero basta foreigner pirmi puno bisan tood mahal. ambot ning mga cagay-anons oi! hehehe! :lol:

I wonder why mas mahal kon local artists (Sharon, Gary, etc...)... 3,000 o 3,500 gud ang pinakamahal and sa Corpus Christi pa gyud i-hold... Kon international artist, sa LKK Atrium gyud pero 1,500 o 2,000 ra ang pinakamahal... If I'm not mistaken, 1,000 lang ang pinakamahal na ticket for sale sa Toto Concert... Salamat sa producers... I think!?! :-)

Mao diay gamay lang gapanan-aw sa lokal ei mas mahal pala ang tickets...

What made me found land area had something to do with your post? It has something to do with you comparing the population of two cities (Cagayan de Oro and Davao City) that are totally a mismatch in terms of land area, coverage et al. Davao City is considered to be one of the largest cities in the world and considering that fact, it has the greater probability of owning a bigger population.

What made me relate population growth rate with land area? Did I? I was just trying to dig deeper on what lies beneath your point of comparing the population of two cities. I was trying to decipher if your post was a valid argument simply because the discussion was focused only on a single paradigm, a comparison of the population growth rate of NORTHERN MINDANAO AND SOUTHERN MINDANAO as a whole and not between the cities of Cagayan de Oro and Davao. The parameter was set and it seems that you've deviated from it.

Yes, the population issue was tackled based on a dream of a metropolitan status but what was clearly presented was the latest population census with emphasis on two regions, northern and southern mindanao, no more no less. And it is funny to hear and read Filipinos that are hooked into the celebrated debate of what is a metro when in fact a clear cut definition is stated in websters dictionary that a metro is pertaining to a metropolitan. And what is a metropolitan? It pertains to a characteristic of a metropolis. And what is a metropolis? A chief city of a country or region, any busy center of commerce etc. By virtue of this definition, Cagayan de Oro has long attained the status of a metro considering that it is the chief city of Northern Mindanao. It is no longer a dream and as a kagay-anon, I could safely say that I am from METRO CAGAYAN DE ORO.

And lastly, I agree that Davao market has reached Cagayan de Oro. But Cagayan de Oro's market has reached Davao too and it has reached the entire island considering that it is the gateway of Mindanao, the hub of domestic transhipment and a certified international shipping destination.The goods that are brought and displayed here are being transported to the rest of the island.

Very well said bro :okay:

;27801578']not always the case bai

in Singapore, they are actually encouraging nga mag anak ang mga tao kay naa silay ginaapas na population growth apan dili makaya kay dili tanan mag-anak or magpamilya


Busy man gud mga tao didto...

Philippine Airlines features six places on its 2008 Calendar.

January and February - Tokyo It is said that on a clear day, one can see Mt. Fuji's omnipresence even from the remotest part of Japan. Mt. Fuji is worshipped and immortalized in songs and poetry. In art, it is the most drawn mountain in the world. Mt. Fuji can cast a spell with its beauty and symmetry. Changing colors with time of day and with the seasons. In winter, it is pure white, it turns bluish with a white crown of snow. And during every sunset, it glows red in a darkening horizon.

March and April - Laoag The La Paz sand dunes in Laoag, north of the Philippines, may look dry and arid, but these have fed the fertile imagination of local and Hollywood filmmakers alike. Among the classic films shot on this location were "Born on the Fourth of July" with Tom Cruise and "Mad Max" with Mel Gibson. Laoag is a picturesque city that threads the future with the past. Giant futuristic windmills dot her shores while centuries-old houses and churches fill her landscape; stretching all the way down to Vigan in Ilocos Sur. Many of these are now in the world Heritage list.

May and June - Sydney There is another face of Sydney that may be well more magnificent than her Opera House or Darling Harbour. It is the Blue Mountain, a World Heritage park less than an hour away from the city. The Blue Mountain is a dreamland covered in a deep blue haze not found in any opther parts of the world. It is where a biodiversity of plant and animal communities continues to thrive. And where legends continue to be told. More famous is the Three Sisters, a group of rock formations standing more than 3,000 feet high. It is said that these were once three beautiful women who were turned into stone as a disguise to keep them from harm's way.

July and August - Puerto Princessa Ecologist and explorer Jacques Cousteau described it as the most beautiful place he evere explored. So much so that its famous St. Paul subterranean river is now protected as a World Heritage Site. The place is Palawan, an island province south of the Philippines, with Puerto Princessa as its capital. Palawan is considered to be one of the last unexplored islands in the pacific. A haven for some of the world's most exotic flora and fauna.

September and October - Las Vegas Three hundred miles from Las Vegas is the largest footprint of Earth's history - the Grand Canyon. Selected as one of the seven natural wonders of the world and a World Heritage Site, the Grand Canyon took over 6 million years to create. Its exposed layers of rock, carved by the Colorado River, tell the story of the Earth's evolution dating as far back as 2 billion years. Majestic and overwhelming, the Grand Canyon is considered to be the most beautiful place in America.

November and December - Cagayan de Oro Cagayan de Oro is one of the premier cities in Mindanao, Philippines. And the gateway of the volcanic island of Camiguin. Considered as one of the Philippines' top 25 tourist destinations, Camiguin island is a concentration of hot and cold springs, waterfalls, lagoons, rainforest, coral reefs, and the tropical fruit Lanzones. More famous is the White Island that appears by day and vanishes by dusk. Blanketed by powdery white sand, White Island may yet rival world-famous sands of Boracay.

There you go folks. I just discovered this as I turned my calendar for the month of November and I was surprised that our very own Cagayan de Oro and Camiguin are one of places featured for its 2008 calendar. Included in the calendar are the pictures of Camiguin Island and the white water rafting adventure in CdeO. It is something to smile on before the year ends... :)

Ay ako, kabalo nako nga sikat na ang CDO oi sauna pa:D

^^ Philippine airlines must be wrong to name us one of the premier cities in mindanao. shame on pal :D

according to atty so and so iisa lang talaga ang premier city :D

Dapat isa lang ang premier, aw hinoon sa pelikula nga ei pwede ilang beses mag premier :D

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oh nice michael_ray. hehehe. mangape ta..

Thanks @reancorbz84 sa mga tsadang litrato :cheers::cheers: Nia ka karon sa CDO?

Coops to launch ‘Obama-type’ campaign in bid for COWD (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/business/coops-launch-%E2%80%98obama-type%E2%80%99-campaign-bid-cowd)


By Cong B. Corrales

AFTER over a month-long hiatus, the consortium of cooperatives under the umbrella of the Regional Cooperative Development Council (RCDC) has spruced up its bid to take over the tax-plagued Cagayan de Oro Water District (COWD).

Anselmo Mercado, chair of the City Cooperative Development Council (CCDC)-a member council of RCDC, presented during the RCDC meeting in Deluxe Hotel Thursday the initial victories their consortium had won.

"The fire is already burning, so let's intensify our crusade," Mercado told attendees of the meeting.

Aside from its letter-reply addressed to Local Water Utilities Authority (LWUA) Chief Prospero Pichay, the group also sent letters to House Representatives Guillermo Cua, Rufus Rodriguez, and Rolando Uy asking for their support to RCDC’s cause.

Mercado reminded the group of the importance of an “Obama-type” on-the-ground organizing like their barangay pulong-pulong and massive education campaign directed towards coop members.

Bencyrus Ellorin, chair of the advocacy committee of CCDC, reported that he has also gained grounds in his rounds with local legislators.

"We have the numbers in the City Council," Ellorin said.

However, the group still wants COWD officials to be held accountable for the questioned disbursements in the past years that have, according to Director Orlando Ravanera of the Cooperative Development Authority (CDA 10), bled the water utility dry.

"We should issue a strong position paper, we want COWD officials to explain," Ravanera said.

Ravanera also reasoned that if Mayor Constantino Jaraula has admitted that "COWD is the weakest link in his governance," then he should be asked what he has done to strengthen it.

The consortium plans to further consolidate its legal options by expanding the membership of its legal committee.

A population census between two regions was the only one that was presented. And the succeding arguments went as far as comparing population growth rate of Cagayan de Oro and Davao City. How far was that? As to the metropolitan discussion, they were based on the strategic plan being worked hand in hand by both the government and private sects here and that plan started since the 1990s. People here were just discussing on the developments of this project so what's the fuzz? And if you're affected with your daily flight schedules, we have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment. :) Yes, I recognize that your port is a premier international destination, that's why I haven't mentioned that our seaports here are the busiest though I mentioned they're one of the certified international destinations. Take note, the international shipping here has just started with the advent of MCT. And you know what, I live near Mindanao Container Terminal and loads of containers are increasing, with two more cranes to be added to the already existing two. This port complements with Oro Port that has been busy too with its daily economic contribution. And oh, may I know how much does your custom earn for shipping? :) And to address your perplexity whether CdeO has reached Davao Market, I suggest that you check the definition of a market using your own business dictionary. Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here. And hey, your fellow forumers have been crying out loud, don't compare your city with other medium sized cities like CdeO because we're not of the same level. But the thing is, who loves to visit our threads and make some comments and comparisons. Well... :) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros. We're just a medium sized city but we're very excited with our developments. Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao. We never thought that our city would transform into some sort of a metropolis. And we are amazed with the fact that our city has been a major concert destination in the country. :) They just came and they're blessings. :) I certainly understand some people who keep on suppressing the thought that other cities have been emerging to be progressive. Sigh... As psychology would say... The primary defense mechanism of humans is denial. Have a great night CdeO. Oh! My friends who are teachers of Sacred Heart of Jesus HS Cebu are coming this December to experience white water rafting. Nakz, lahi ra gyud ang original ba? Pilit na ginaya, hindi naman nakaya... Katkat CdeO! Umaakyat ka, hindi bumababa... :)Padayon CdeO! Padayon Normin!


WELL SAID MICHAEL! AMEN!

WELL SAID MICHAEL! AMEN!
Perfect! Cheers!

“A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity.”

A population census between two regions was the only one that was presented. And the succeding arguments went as far as comparing population growth rate of Cagayan de Oro and Davao City. How far was that? As to the metropolitan discussion, they were based on the strategic plan being worked hand in hand by both the government and private sects here and that plan started since the 1990s. People here were just discussing on the developments of this project so what's the fuzz? And if you're affected with your daily flight schedules, we have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment. :) Yes, I recognize that your port is a premier international destination, that's why I haven't mentioned that our seaports here are the busiest though I mentioned they're one of the certified international destinations. Take note, the international shipping here has just started with the advent of MCT. And you know what, I live near Mindanao Container Terminal and loads of containers are increasing, with two more cranes to be added to the already existing two. This port complements with Oro Port that has been busy too with its daily economic contribution. And oh, may I know how much does your custom earn for shipping? :) And to address your perplexity whether CdeO has reached Davao Market, I suggest that you check the definition of a market using your own business dictionary. Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here. And hey, your fellow forumers have been crying out loud, don't compare your city with other medium sized cities like CdeO because we're not of the same level. But the thing is, who loves to visit our threads and make some comments and comparisons. Well... :) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros. We're just a medium sized city but we're very excited with our developments. Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao. We never thought that our city would transform into some sort of a metropolis. And we are amazed with the fact that our city has been a major concert destination in the country. :) They just came and they're blessings. :) I certainly understand some people who keep on suppressing the thought that other cities have been emerging to be progressive. Sigh... As psychology would say... The primary defense mechanism of humans is denial. Have a great night CdeO. Oh! My friends who are teachers of Sacred Heart of Jesus HS Cebu are coming this December to experience white water rafting. Nakz, lahi ra gyud ang original ba? Pilit na ginaya, hindi naman nakaya... Katkat CdeO! Umaakyat ka, hindi bumababa... :)Padayon CdeO! Padayon Normin!
True. We can't compare both cities. CDO is a humble, mid-sized city and I don't understand why some people from a big city bully this thread. Why don't they pick on other giants like Cebu and Metro Manila? That SHOULD be exciting. I don't understand why some people can be seething with insecurity over Cagayan de Oro's developments.

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plaza fair presents 5-day sale (http://mwamaarkhh.multiply.com/journal/item/713)
Advertorial for MINDANAO GOLD STAR DAILY by MARK D. FRANCISCO

PLAZA Fair Cagayan de Oro commenced its five day-sale starting yesterday, November 5. The sale will run up to Sunday, November 9, 2008.

The five-day sale is available both at Plaza Fair prominently located at Limketkai Mall as well as its satellite outlet, the aptly-named Fair Price Club which is right across Villa Ernesto Subdivision in barangay Gusa, this city.

Among the features of the five-day sale are buy-one take-one on selected department store items such as ready-to-wear, infants wear, baby shop, teens wear and toiletries along with a few goods at the grocery.

“Kagay-anons deserve an early noche buena,” Plaza Fair owner Danny Velasco was visibly happy upon seeing that many shoppers were queuing at the store.

“We are very thankful for this promo. I’m gonna fill my home with grocery goodies,” remarked shopper Rhea Ledesma.

“Ok kaayo ni, grabe among shopping karon,” added Kristine Ulla.

Celebrating 25 years in the business, Plaza Fair also offers discounts at the appliance store such as 20 percent off on home theater items, LCD television and furnitures like dining tables, cabinets and sala set.

For the month of November, there will be free gift-wrapping.

Plaza Fair management is also inviting working students to apply at the store. Qualified students will take entrance examinations before being accepted.

Plaza Fair (Limketkai Mall) caters customers from the western part of Northern Mindanao and neighboring provinces and cities such as Iligan City, Marawi City, Ozamiz City, Lanao del Norte, Lanao del Sur and Misamis Occidental.

Fair Price Club at barangay Gusa across Villa Ernesto Subdivision caters to customers from the eastern part of the region such as those coming from Bukidnon, the Surigao and Agusan provinces as well as Camiguin.

Have an early merry Christmas at Plaza Fair and enjoy shopping!

CDO Bloggers First Meet-Up (http://travelsandtours.dingexx.com/2008/11/07/cdo-bloggers-first-meet-up/)
Posted by dingdans on Friday, November 7th 2008

Cagayan de Oro is a growing and a blooming City. Aside on this, many investors and businessman who came in the city to invest there business. The city have already big malls which are the SM, Gaisano Mall, and Limketkai Mall, aside from the big malls in the city we have also big building for hotels in our very own city. There is a biggest hotel right now which is under construction; this hotel is the tallest hotel in Cagayan de Oro which is a 21 story hotel. Imagine how bloom is our city. Aside on this the CDO Bloggers will form a group in the city and we hope that it will be acknowledge for our local government.

Blogging is now popular in our modern days. Blogging is part of the media society already because you can express your feelings through blogging. You can give information to the people around you. In Mmindanao there are places already where bloggers have been organized and active to there community. Just like Davao, they have already Davao Bloggers Community the Gen. San bloggers Community, and many place in Mindanao. These two (2) places I mention are known where bloggers are so active and this place also is the place where Mindanao Blog Summit was held. The 1st Mindanao Blog Summit was held at Davao last year 2007 and the 2nd Mindanao Blog Summit was held at Gen. San in this year.

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In this time I think it is the time where Kagay-anons will organize a group of bloggers. The group will be called CDO Bloggers with the help of ChiQ Montes a word press designer and a popular blogger. Through the help of ChiQ the CDO Bloggers community is form and I’m so happy that we are one of those bloggers who form the community. Few days ago ChiQ launch the CDOBLOGGERS site and it that day she get a good feedback for the CDO Bloggers where in at the end of the day there are 50+ bloggers who register in that site, it is a good sign that bloggers in Cagayan de Oro is active. The 1st Meet-up of CDO Bloggers was so cool and excited.

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Around 7 o’clock in the evening last Nov. 7, 2008 at Mindy’s, one forth of the member of the site was meet and it is the initial members of the sites and an active bloggers in CDO. In this meet we just introduce our selves and the blogs that we maintain or let say the niche of our blog at off course we eat. For the next week we will meet again for the serious talk about the goals and objectives of the group. It is a brain storming to make our community organize and become solid. In this 2nd meet up of CDO BLOGGERS I’m sure 70-90% of bloggers who register to the site come in that meet-up. Did you know what is one of the reason why they will come? Because they would like to see ChiQ in personal..:-) So prepare Davao, Gen.San and Zamboanga CDO BLOGGERS in now online..:-)

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There are now 3 upcoming Swiss-Belhotels in the country...

Philippines
• Swiss-Belhotel Quezon City, Metro Manila (2009)
• Swiss-Belhotel and Convention Centre Cagayan de Oro (2010)
• Swiss-Belhotel Makati (2011)

source (http://www.swiss-belhotel.com/upcoming.html)

True. We can't compare both cities. CDO is a humble, mid-sized city and I don't understand why some people from a big city bully this thread. Why don't they pick on other giants like Cebu and Metro Manila? That SHOULD be exciting. I don't understand why some people can be seething with insecurity over Cagayan de Oro's developments.


:lol: :lol::lol:

^^No match kasi kaya dito na lang sa CdeO. :lol:

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True. We can't compare both cities. CDO is a humble, mid-sized city and I don't understand why some people from a big city bully this thread. Why don't they pick on other giants like Cebu and Metro Manila? That SHOULD be exciting. I don't understand why some people can be seething with insecurity over Cagayan de Oro's developments.

:lol: :lol::lol:

^^No match kasi kaya dito na lang sa CdeO. :lol:
could you cite my post comparing 2 cities starte by me? if you are asked whats with your claim, dont finger point it to the word comparison. dont made me compare davao with manlia cebu. if they will claim they are bigger, no one is interested to question bec they can show some substance to the truth. but if youer city claims to show deception based on false perception, and mislead people thats something else

could you cite my post comparing 2 cities starte by me? if you are asked whats with your claim, dont finger point it to the word comparison. dont made me compare davao with manlia cebu. if they will claim they are bigger, no one is interested to question bec they can show some substance to the truth. but if youer city claims to show deception based on false perception, and mislead people thats something else

duh....

Coops to launch ‘Obama-type’ campaign in bid for COWD (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/business/coops-launch-%E2%80%98obama-type%E2%80%99-campaign-bid-cowd)


By Cong B. Corrales

AFTER over a month-long hiatus, the consortium of cooperatives under the umbrella of the Regional Cooperative Development Council (RCDC) has spruced up its bid to take over the tax-plagued Cagayan de Oro Water District (COWD).

Anselmo Mercado, chair of the City Cooperative Development Council (CCDC)-a member council of RCDC, presented during the RCDC meeting in Deluxe Hotel Thursday the initial victories their consortium had won.

"The fire is already burning, so let's intensify our crusade," Mercado told attendees of the meeting.

Aside from its letter-reply addressed to Local Water Utilities Authority (LWUA) Chief Prospero Pichay, the group also sent letters to House Representatives Guillermo Cua, Rufus Rodriguez, and Rolando Uy asking for their support to RCDC’s cause.

Mercado reminded the group of the importance of an “Obama-type” on-the-ground organizing like their barangay pulong-pulong and massive education campaign directed towards coop members.

Bencyrus Ellorin, chair of the advocacy committee of CCDC, reported that he has also gained grounds in his rounds with local legislators.

"We have the numbers in the City Council," Ellorin said.

However, the group still wants COWD officials to be held accountable for the questioned disbursements in the past years that have, according to Director Orlando Ravanera of the Cooperative Development Authority (CDA 10), bled the water utility dry.

"We should issue a strong position paper, we want COWD officials to explain," Ravanera said.

Ravanera also reasoned that if Mayor Constantino Jaraula has admitted that "COWD is the weakest link in his governance," then he should be asked what he has done to strengthen it.

The consortium plans to further consolidate its legal options by expanding the membership of its legal committee.



CHANGE
we need


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could you cite my post comparing 2 cities starte by me? if you are asked whats with your claim, dont finger point it to the word comparison. dont made me compare davao with manlia cebu. if they will claim they are bigger, no one is interested to question bec they can show some substance to the truth. but if youer city claims to show deception based on false perception, and mislead people thats something else

Kindly re-phrase :lol:, so SSC tends to mislead people diay, tungod siguro sa SSC mi-daghan ang investments sa NM particularly CdeO:lol::lol:...Kidding aside, I really wish na sana magkaisa na yung mga forumers ng Davao & CdeO. Ang uban man gud maski gagmay lang nga mga butang, big deal na kaayo.

could you cite my post comparing 2 cities starte by me? if you are asked whats with your claim, dont finger point it to the word comparison. dont made me compare davao with manlia cebu. if they will claim they are bigger, no one is interested to question bec they can show some substance to the truth. but if youer city claims to show deception based on false perception, and mislead people thats something else

A big joke. :lol: Sa panahon ngayon, only people who do not have sound judgment are misled. Most of them are either bitter or insecure. :)

A population census between two regions was the only one that was presented. And the succeding arguments went as far as comparing population growth rate of Cagayan de Oro and Davao City. How far was that?
for your guidance here it is

The metro cagayan de oro concept...

http://www3.pids.gov.ph/ris/pdf/pidsdps9814.pdf
Some highlights of that pdf:

Providing a Metropolitan Perspective
to Development Planning: Cagayan de Oro
Ruben G. Mercado and Casimira V. Balandra1

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a metro area with more than half of the population living in a rural area :D

As to the metropolitan discussion, they were based on the strategic plan being worked hand in hand by both the government and private sects here and that plan started since the 1990s.
may i know if its officially working now. i read this sometime and it was only a paper published by "pids". there are other philippines cities with the same study

A big joke. :lol: Sa panahon ngayon, only people who do not have sound judgment are misled. Most of them are either bitter or insecure. :)
theres nothing to get bitter and insecure literally. what with the cdo? call it annoyingly irritating to keep us recieving info whats actually did exist

theres nothing to get bitter and insecure literally. what with the cdo? call it annoyingly irritating to keep us recieving whats actually did exist

Di ko po maintindihan...rephrase naman po...thanks in adv :)

People here were just discussing on the developments of this project so what's the fuzz? And if you're affected with your daily flight schedules, we have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure.
i was giving you a clue whats the substance of your "gateway of mindanao" did you get my point? what were you talikng about. whats with that flight frequency showing for? did it show number of flights jumped double, triple from what it used to have? i know some airline mounting new services went on and off. nothing new. if at the end of the day your pass traffic share is still 20%, that wont still change the equation. and does it mean opening ladp will transform the travel frequency of people and turn the airport into the something you would like to project

A big joke. :lol: Sa panahon ngayon, only people who do not have sound judgment are misled. Most of them are either bitter or insecure. :)

Tama ka bay...& if there's nothing to be insecure about, I think yung small issues including opinions ay di naman dapat palakihin. Ang rumors di rin dapat patulan kasi rumor pa naman. We all acknowledge that Davao City is still ahead of CdeO, pero yung the way other people use CdeO as a subject of ridicule, it just gives us a hint na na-threaten sila sa progress ng CdeO---sila yung mga INSECURE....:lol::lol::lol:

And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment. :) Yes, I recognize that your port is a premier international destination, that's why I haven't mentioned that our seaports here are the busiest though I mentioned they're one of the certified international destinations. Take note, the international shipping here has just started with the advent of MCT. And you know what, I live near Mindanao Container Terminal and loads of containers are increasing, with two more cranes to be added to the already existing two. This port complements with Oro Port that has been busy too with its daily economic contribution. And oh, may I know how much does your custom earn for shipping? :)
you talk like theres only macabalan port in existence in domestic shipping. is davao, zamboanga, general santos, using macabalan port? they all have regular freight connections to manila visayas. what made you say international shipping just started, were those pineapple of bukidnon shopped out domestically? and yes, davao port earned P188mil with no big ports sharing in for the toatal under its district. whats the income of macabalan port btw

There are now 3 upcoming Swiss-Belhotels in the country...

Philippines
• Swiss-Belhotel Quezon City, Metro Manila (2009)
• Swiss-Belhotel and Convention Centre Cagayan de Oro (2010)
• Swiss-Belhotel Makati (2011)

source (http://www.swiss-belhotel.com/upcoming.html)

Dati dalawa lang yan, so bago lang na-add yung sa Makati.

And to address your perplexity whether CdeO has reached Davao Market, I suggest that you check the definition of a market using your own business dictionary. Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here.
was you cousin on a wholesale purchase of collectors items? might make me crazy having her for a cousin too. i saw photos of mall stores displaying and selling those items in davao thread. but to buy some little items only, that is incomparable then people of cdo throwing money in the casinos of davao city. or made city a stop shop for their holiday trip to samal island and other resorts in the city.

i was giving you a clue whats the substance of your "gateway of mindanao" did you get my point? what were you talikng about. whats with that flight frequency showing for? did it show number of flights jumped double, triple from what it used to have? i know some airline mounting new services went on and off. nothing new. if at the end of the day your pass traffic share is still 20%, that wont still change the equation. and does it mean opening ladp will transform the travel frequency of people and turn the airport into the something you would like to project

This has been clearly answered by Michael as quoted below.

have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment.

In addition when I was a student in Cebu many years ago, My friends from Davao, Cotabato, etc. passed through CDO pier to go to Cebu, Bohol, and other Islands. And even now whenever we have conferences, people pass through CDO pier. Of course, people from Sothern Mindanao hasve the option to get out of their place through their own Airport and Seaport. But it is fact that many from Southern MIndanao travel through CDO pier.

HOPE THIS IS CLEAR.

THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY GATEWAY!!!!!!!:bash:

you talk like theres only macabalan port in existence in domestic shipping. is davao, zamboanga, general santos, using macabalan port? they all have regular freight connections to manila visayas. what made you say international shipping just started, were those pineapple of bukidnon shopped out domestically? and yes, davao port earned P188mil with no big ports sharing in for the toatal under its district. whats the income of macabalan port btw

Bai, it's like you're saying na Sasa wharf ra ba gud ang pier diha sa inyo... Unifrutti Services Inc. also has a big wharf there in Davao... Diha man gani daw ga-ship usahay ang Dole... My GF work at USI man gud... They ship millions of boxes of fresh fruits per year... Gamyan ka ana? Dako pud kita ang customs ani, uy...
Actually, di ko kasabot nimo... You really need to rephrase some of your statements... I think you want to compare the stats of Macabalan and Sasa... Am I right? Or, am I right? Mao gitukod ang MCT kay overloaded na kaayo ang Macabalan... Ang sulti sa PPA about 5 years ago, almost double na ang gina-cater sa Macabalan kay sa iya gyud capacity... Mao, gikinahanglan na ug expansion or dugangan kay di na kaya... Pero, numbers, wa ko mapakita... Sorry to disappoint those who want proof and nothing but proof... He! He! He! :-)

was you cousin on a wholesale purchase of collectors items? might make me crazy having her for a cousin too. i saw photos of mall stores displaying and selling those items in davao thread. but to buy some little items only, that is incomparable then people of cdo throwing money in the casinos of davao city. or made city a stop shop for their holiday trip to samal island and other resorts in the city.

Bai, daghan kaayo sakyanan diri na L gasugod ang plate number... Unsa kaha gibuhat nila diri? Labay lang? They also spend here... People going to Camiguin more often than not, drop by CdO... Wa moy Mags diha, Bai? Bigby's? Slers? Way Del Monte o Marca Leon products diha? All cities in our island are inter-dependent... If you can't accept this fact, I pity you! :-)

And hey, your fellow forumers have been crying out loud, don't compare your city with other medium sized cities like CdeO because we're not of the same level. But the thing is, who loves to visit our threads and make some comments and comparisons. Well... :) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros.
guess they love to kepp track on the progress of high rise building constructions:lol:
Whats a classy metro to you?

This has been clearly answered by Michael as quoted below.

have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment.

In addition when I was a student in Cebu many years ago, My friends from Davao, Cotabato, etc. passed through CDO pier to go to Cebu, Bohol, and other Islands. And even now whenever we have conferences, people pass through CDO pier. Of course, people from Sothern Mindanao hasve the option to get out of their place through their own Airport and Seaport. But it is fact that many from Southern MIndanao travel through CDO pier.

HOPE THIS IS CLEAR.

THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY GATEWAY!!!!!!!:bash:
gateway can be anyone of regional cities. but saying it a gateway of mindanao, should also have international connections for travellers. and theres only davao having that

A big joke. :lol: Sa panahon ngayon, only people who do not have sound judgment are misled. Most of them are either bitter or insecure. :)

^^And that was the worst joke I ever heard :lol::lol::lol:

for your guidance here it is






may i know if its officially working now. i read this sometime and it was only a paper published by "pids". there are other philippines cities with the same study

Excuse me. That's really working, kaya nagtatanong ako kung ilang porsyento naba ang narating ng Region 10 sa omprehensive plan na yun... kaya andito na yung LADP (progress ongoing), MCT (phase 1 completed), and so on...

Di ko po maintindihan...rephrase naman po...thanks in adv :)

:lol::lol::lol: galit na galit na yan...

Bai, it's like you're saying na Sasa wharf ra ba gud ang pier diha sa inyo... Unifrutti Services Inc. also has a big wharf there in Davao... Diha man gani daw ga-ship usahay ang Dole... My GF work at USI man gud... They ship millions of boxes of fresh fruits per year... Gamyan ka ana? Dako pud kita ang customs ani, uy...
Actually, di ko kasabot nimo... You really need to rephrase some of your statements... I think you want to compare the stats of Macabalan and Sasa... Am I right? Or, am I right? Mao gitukod ang MCT kay overloaded na kaayo ang Macabalan... Ang sulti sa PPA about 5 years ago, almost double na ang gina-cater sa Macabalan kay sa iya gyud capacity... Mao, gikinahanglan na ug expansion or dugangan kay di na kaya... Pero, numbers, wa ko mapakita... Sorry to disappoint those who want proof and nothing but proof... He! He! He! :-)
yes. macabalan which covers private prts within its vicinity. their taxes paid to macabalan is understood.

what did you mean overloaded? with the stat figures of teu capacity, it was nott as much as the amount of twenty footer vans loaded and unloaded in davao port.

gateway can be anyone of regional cities. but saying it a gateway of mindanao, should also have international connections for travellers. and theres only davao having that

i THINK I pointed out already what a gateway is. But if you insist that a gateway should have international access. THE DICTIONARY DEFINES "GATEWAY as Something that serves as an entrance or a means of access."
iT Does not say it should have an international access.. But don't you know that CDO seaport is visited regularly by foreign ships.

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, PLEASE WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE AUTHOR OF THE DICTIONARY! :nuts:

^^And that was the worst joke I ever heard :lol::lol::lol:



Excuse me. That's really working, kaya nagtatanong ako kung ilang porsyento naba ang narating ng Region 10 sa omprehensive plan na yun... kaya andito na yung LADP (progress ongoing), MCT (phase 1 completed), and so on...



:lol::lol::lol: galit na galit na yan...
you mean those rural towns in bukidnon and you province are now metros?

i THINK I pointed out already what a gateway is. But if you insist that a gateway should have international access. THE DICTIONARY DEFINES "GATEWAY as Something that serves as an entrance or a means of access."
iT Does not say it should have an international access.. But don't you know that CDO seaport is visited regularly by foreign ships.

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, PLEASE WRITE YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE AUTHOR OF THE DICTIONARY! :nuts:


did you get my point? zamboanga is also a gateway to mindanao jast as butuan, gen santos, surigao. gateway of mindabao is a subjective reference of main door from among many doorways. i can get to cdo by ship from singapore, but can i get there by plane

yes. macabalan which covers private prts within its vicinity. their taxes paid to macabalan is understood.

what did you mean overloaded? with the stat figures of teu capacity, it was nott as much as the amount of twenty footer vans loaded and unloaded in davao port.

We now have the MCT for that... This actually explains why nag-drop ang figures sa CdO with regards to PPA-ran ports... Yes, Bai! Overloaded kaayo sa una! Almost 200% sa berthing capacity niya, if I remember right... This was more than 5 years ago... I saw on TV the manager of PPA gigisa sa city council tungod kay di ipasulod mga private vehicles sa pier... Ang pagka-overloaded mao isa sa mga figures na iya gipakita... Thanks to the MCT, we don't have this problem now... :-)

Bai, daghan kaayo sakyanan diri na L gasugod ang plate number... Unsa kaha gibuhat nila diri? Labay lang? They also spend here... People going to Camiguin more often than not, drop by CdO... Wa moy Mags diha, Bai? Bigby's? Slers? Way Del Monte o Marca Leon products diha? All cities in our island are inter-dependent... If you can't accept this fact, I pity you! :-)
i dont know about shops but i know high end brands have shops in davao malls. so i guess they dont see them shopping in cdo with the wide choices in davao. does it mean davao travellers drive their cars than cdoers going down to davao?

did you get my point? zamboanga is also a gateway to mindanao jast as butuan, gen santos, surigao. gateway of mindabao is a subjective reference of main door from among many doorways. i can get to cdo by ship from singapore, but can i get there by plane

i am not saying you cannot go to places in Mindanao other than through CDO. What I am saying is that people prefer to travel through CDO pier because it is convenient for them. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM LUZON OR VISAYAS TO ANY POINT IN MINDANAO: You can actually go to Bukidnon through Butuan. Try it. No one will stop you. But people from Bukidnon prefer to travel through CDO. You can actually go to Iligan through Zamboanga City. But people prefer to to Iligan through CDO. You can go to Camiguin through Surigao or Butuan, but people prefer to go to Camiguin through CDO. You can go to Marawi City through Davao but people prefer to go to Marawi through CDO.

did you get my point? zamboanga is also a gateway to mindanao jast as butuan, gen santos, surigao. gateway of mindabao is a subjective reference of main door from among many doorways. i can get to cdo by ship from singapore, but can i get there by plane

A few years from now, may be... Pero, not CdO... Laguindingan, Bai... There are 3 international standard airports in Mindanao... Lumbia, sad to say, is not one of them... Di pwede maka-landing ang plane sa gabii o when baga ang fog... Gamay pud ang width sa runway... Di pwede ang big jets... Still, we have a relatively busy airport... Considering its only a major trunk and not an international standard airport... :-)

i am not saying you cannot go to places in Mindanao other than through CDO. What I am saying is that people prefer to travel through CDO pier because it is convenient for them. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM LUZON OR VISAYAS TO ANY POINT IN MINDANAO: You can actually go to Bukidnon through Butuan. Try it. No one will stop you. But people from Bukidnon prefer to travel through CDO. You can actually go to Iligan through Zamboanga City. But people prefer to to Iligan through CDO. You can go to Camiguin through Surigao or Butuan, but people prefer to go to Camiguin through CDO. You can go to Marawi City through Davao but people prefer to go to Marawi through CDO.

:lol::lol::lol:

We now have the MCT for that... This actually explains why nag-drop ang figures sa CdO with regards to PPA-ran ports... Yes, Bai! Overloaded kaayo sa una! Almost 200% sa berthing capacity niya, if I remember right... This was more than 5 years ago... I saw on TV the manager of PPA gigisa sa city council tungod kay di ipasulod mga private vehicles sa pier... Ang pagka-overloaded mao isa sa mga figures na iya gipakita... Thanks to the MCT, we don't have this problem now... :-)
whatever. but i know teus determins number of stackload capacity of the yard. and tonnage does not neccessarily mean it can occupy big space. where the port of cdo has got the tonnage figure

i am not saying you cannot go to places in Mindanao other than through CDO. What I am saying is that people prefer to travel through CDO pier because it is convenient for them. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM LUZON OR VISAYAS TO ANY POINT IN MINDANAO: You can actually go to Bukidnon through Butuan. Try it. No one will stop you. But people from Bukidnon prefer to travel through CDO. You can actually go to Iligan through Zamboanga City. But people prefer to to Iligan through CDO. You can go to Camiguin through Surigao or Butuan, but people prefer to go to Camiguin through CDO. You can go to Marawi City through Davao but people prefer to go to Marawi through CDO.

More often than not, people in the Visayas enter Mindanao via CdO... Naa gani mga taga-Davao na mag-via CdO... Rural Tours dayon... Mao bitaw naa CdO Hub ang Rural Transit Mindanao Inc... :-)

i am not saying you cannot go to places in Mindanao other than through CDO. What I am saying is that people prefer to travel through CDO pier because it is convenient for them. IF YOU ARE COMING FROM LUZON OR VISAYAS TO ANY POINT IN MINDANAO: You can actually go to Bukidnon through Butuan. Try it. No one will stop you. But people from Bukidnon prefer to travel through CDO. You can actually go to Iligan through Zamboanga City. But people prefer to to Iligan through CDO. You can go to Camiguin through Surigao or Butuan, but people prefer to go to Camiguin through CDO. You can go to Marawi City through Davao but people prefer to go to Marawi through CDO.
did you have base you it on data or talks on the street passed around by some people. whats the figures bet ozamis port and cdo port in terms of passenger traffic

i dont know about shops but i know high end brands have shops in davao malls. so i guess they dont see them shopping in cdo with the wide choices in davao. does it mean davao travellers drive their cars than cdoers going down to davao?

Yes, actually... We prefer to shop in Cebu... Pero, there are 2 things I love very much about your city... Going to Chimes and watching movies at NCCC... We also have high-end shops here... Mas daghan lang sa Davao... We have a Crocs store, a Sanük store, an Izod store, etc... Mas gwapo pud ang choices diri for Havaianas, Grendha, Ipanema, Fitflop, etc.. A lot of boutiques here also sell high-end brands... Di lang gyud shop... We don't have a Lacoste shop here... Pero, Spruce is a Lacoste Foowear authorized reseller... Wa mi DM Shop diri... Naa baligya sa Toby's and Seven-Seven... I hope you see the picture... :-)

More often than not, people in the Visayas enter Mindanao via CdO... Naa gani mga taga-Davao na mag-via CdO... Rural Tours dayon... Mao bitaw naa CdO Hub ang Rural Transit Mindanao Inc... :-)
if theirs some, that does not represent to whole seapass traffic from davao. they probly have reasons to dropby cdo

More often than not, people in the Visayas enter Mindanao via CdO... Naa gani mga taga-Davao na mag-via CdO... Rural Tours dayon... Mao bitaw naa CdO Hub ang Rural Transit Mindanao Inc... :-)

thats true. cdo has most number and bigger vessels,and frequency coming from visayas.

if theirs some, that does not represent to whole seapass traffic from davao. they probly have reasons to dropby cdo

sometimes CDO considered as transit to some mindanao destinations..

did you have base you it on data or talks on the street passed around by some people. whats the figures bet ozamis port and cdo port in terms of passenger traffic

Common, we are just discussing here based on personal observations and experiences. :ohno:

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM!

did you have base you it on data or talks on the street passed around by some people. whats the figures bet ozamis port and cdo port in terms of passenger traffic

in terms of traffic, ozamis has bigger numbers than cdo if we consider the ferry services to kulambogan port.:)

Common, we are just discussing here based on personal observations and experiences. :ohno:

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM!
its my choice wether to believe or not. i was finding out how much substamce thee is in the claim

We never thought that our city would transform into some sort of a metropolis.
this might help you enlightened. a work of the same person who did the paper on cdos

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/davao_world/metrodvo.jpg
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CDO ___ years from now...:lol:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/3015737993_6255ea4d6b.jpg

Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao.
were you clueless bec the mayor told you its ayala centre mall back in 2006?

Jollibee Vamenta

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photo by eschmai

CDO ___ years from now...:lol:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/3015737993_6255ea4d6b.jpg
thats grand regal horel at fron t of line. so its more like lanang davao city:banana:

CDO ___ years from now...:lol:
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Is that you GearX? a beautiful lady, dreaming and looking forward.:cheers:

Hi guyz! Hi MtApoStandard, nice to see you here.

By the way, need a little help here. I've been lurking around sites and cannot see one lechon houses with contact details. If you guys from CDO can recommend me at least 3 lechon houses from your area, I will truly appreciate it. If you can also recommend me some catering services, that would be great. Just don't forget to include their contact details and I'll take it from here. Salamat kaayo.

Ps: Pasensya na, I dunno where else to check. Thanks again!:cheers:

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flickr photo by arvin2006

A population census between two regions was the only one that was presented. And the succeding arguments went as far as comparing population growth rate of Cagayan de Oro and Davao City. How far was that? As to the metropolitan discussion, they were based on the strategic plan being worked hand in hand by both the government and private sects here and that plan started since the 1990s. People here were just discussing on the developments of this project so what's the fuzz? And if you're affected with your daily flight schedules, we have four flights daily for PAL, three to four flights daily for Cebu Pac, and two flights daily for Air Philippines. We also have flights Cebu-Cdeo-Cebu serviced by PAL, Cebu Pacific, and Asian Spirit. Not bad for a Domestic Airport, how much more if LADP opens. Would it change the Philippine skies? That's for sure. But for the meantime, we have to be contented with what we have. And we're very cool with that. And for your own sake, the shipping industry of Cagayan de Oro makes it the gateway of Mindanao since it is the hub of domestic transhipment. :) Yes, I recognize that your port is a premier international destination, that's why I haven't mentioned that our seaports here are the busiest though I mentioned they're one of the certified international destinations. Take note, the international shipping here has just started with the advent of MCT. And you know what, I live near Mindanao Container Terminal and loads of containers are increasing, with two more cranes to be added to the already existing two. This port complements with Oro Port that has been busy too with its daily economic contribution. And oh, may I know how much does your custom earn for shipping? :) And to address your perplexity whether CdeO has reached Davao Market, I suggest that you check the definition of a market using your own business dictionary. Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here. And hey, your fellow forumers have been crying out loud, don't compare your city with other medium sized cities like CdeO because we're not of the same level. But the thing is, who loves to visit our threads and make some comments and comparisons. Well... :) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros. We're just a medium sized city but we're very excited with our developments. Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao. We never thought that our city would transform into some sort of a metropolis. And we are amazed with the fact that our city has been a major concert destination in the country. :) They just came and they're blessings. :) I certainly understand some people who keep on suppressing the thought that other cities have been emerging to be progressive. Sigh... As psychology would say... The primary defense mechanism of humans is denial. Have a great night CdeO. Oh! My friends who are teachers of Sacred Heart of Jesus HS Cebu are coming this December to experience white water rafting. Nakz, lahi ra gyud ang original ba? Pilit na ginaya, hindi naman nakaya... Katkat CdeO! Umaakyat ka, hindi bumababa... :)Padayon CdeO! Padayon Normin!

yes, I hate paragraphs...damn paragraphs!
:lol:

its my choice wether to believe or not. i was finding out how much substamce thee is in the claim

ahem! "claims", "substance", "verified", "clarify"-- those are the words frequently used by you and your "kababayans" since time immemorial. I dont know why people keep on asking "verifications", "clarifications" and look for "substance" on claims and etc... Are we on court rule here? It seems as if almost all aspects of what were tackled in this thread are always faced with those kind of queries.

As I see it, it seems that what whatever is being tackled may seem so untrue to most of you from there.

You see, that alone can make this thread a mess as most people keep on "verifying", "clarifying" and "looking for substance" in every topic. For one thing, nobody even dares to ask the other thread the same thing. :ohno:

I wish we can be like the other threads in SSC where comparison has no mix of envy, bashing, and all those sort of destructive doings being done by other people on this thread.

The Macahambus Zip Line
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flickr by crisleo

13th Hole Pueblo de Oro Golf Course
Par 3 180 yards

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photo by crisleo

^^If you don't mind me asking @MtApoStandard, when was the last time you've been to Mindanao?

you mean those rural towns in bukidnon and you province are now metros?

In the article that I posted and to my follow up query, It's clearly bro on what's going on and your specific question is unnecessary. Maybe isa ka sa mga namislead, :lol:

ahem! "claims", "substance", "verified", "clarify"-- those are the words frequently used by you and your "kababayans" since time immemorial. I dont know why people keep on asking "verifications", "clarifications" and look for "substance" on claims and etc... Are we on court rule here? It seems as if almost all aspects of what were tackled in this thread are always faced with those kind of queries.

As I see it, it seems that what whatever is being tackled may seem so untrue to most of you from there.

You see, that alone can make this thread a mess as most people keep on "verifying", "clarifying" and "looking for substance" in every topic. For one thing, nobody even dares to ask the other thread the same thing. :ohno:

I wish we can be like the other threads in SSC where comparison has no mix of envy, bashing, and all those sort of destructive doings being done by other people on this thread.


^^Palusot lang yan sa mga taong nahihirapan na... :lol:

Rizal Monument
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Damn, I'm going crazy with my cousin who's in BSN 2 in ADDU who keeps on asking me to buy collector's items of havaianas and ipanema here.

well, if you look at it, baka nauubusan agad dito sa davao dahil madami bumibili???...i remember before when i was still hooked with toy collection, we go as far as pampanga or baguio, yes even bacolod/iloilo to source toys out...that is before we go to eBay as our last resort...

pero i admit, siguro the items for sale are almost the same between cdo and davao...meron lang siguro dito boutiques na wala sa cdo. but di siguro malayo.


:) You should compare your city to Metro Cebu and Metro Manila. Let's see what you got compared to these classy metros.

i wouldn't call Metro Manila a classy metro...in fact, baka mas magustuhan ko pa ang cdo compared to the degenerating capital of the philippines. :) ano p kaya ang davao.
its good though that people like Atienza, SB and BF are rebuilding their respective cities...BF being the architect of MM's resurgence.
pero opinion k lang yan. :)


We're just a medium sized city but we're very excited with our developments. Investments have been pouring here, we never thought that we would have the first ayala subdivision in Mindanao.

michael, as far as I know. the 1st ayala subdivision in Mindanao is in Davao, the Insular Village...built as early as the 60s or 70s ata...but I could be wrong.

peace pre!

ahem! "claims", "substance", "verified", "clarify"-- those are the words frequently used by you and your "kababayans" since time immemorial. I dont know why people keep on asking "verifications", "clarifications" and look for "substance" on claims and etc... Are we on court rule here? It seems as if almost all aspects of what were tackled in this thread are always faced with those kind of queries.

As I see it, it seems that what whatever is being tackled may seem so untrue to most of you from there.

You see, that alone can make this thread a mess as most people keep on "verifying", "clarifying" and "looking for substance" in every topic. For one thing, nobody even dares to ask the other thread the same thing. :ohno:

I wish we can be like the other threads in SSC where comparison has no mix of envy, bashing, and all those sort of destructive doings being done by other people on this thread.

bitaw, bahala na gud ug walay klaro or tikal ang storya basta patsada paminawon :)


bahala na nang credibility, bahala nag mag libaanay ta (sama anang magpanggap nga chiks kunohay)..ok ra na basta patsada lang paminawon :)

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Walkalator Entrance
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Meat Section
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Fish Section
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Vegetables
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Fruits
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Tiny Ponkan
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Apples/Pears
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Onions
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Fresh Fish
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ahem! "claims", "substance", "verified", "clarify"-- those are the words frequently used by you and your "kababayans" since time immemorial. I dont know why people keep on asking "verifications", "clarifications" and look for "substance" on claims and etc... Are we on court rule here? It seems as if almost all aspects of what were tackled in this thread are always faced with those kind of queries.

As I see it, it seems that what whatever is being tackled may seem so untrue to most of you from there.

You see, that alone can make this thread a mess as most people keep on "verifying", "clarifying" and "looking for substance" in every topic. For one thing, nobody even dares to ask the other thread the same thing. :ohno:

I wish we can be like the other threads in SSC where comparison has no mix of envy, bashing, and all those sort of destructive doings being done by other people on this thread.

i AGREE with you tonzi. That is why i stopped interacting with MtApo in regards to the "gATEWAY TOPIC" because he does NOT believe in personal observations and personal experiences. He wants figures based on study. :bash:

were you clueless bec the mayor told you its ayala centre mall back in 2006?

:rofl:

pero oks lang na bai, basta patsada paminawon, bahala nag way klaro, we should embrace it as gospel truth dayon..otherwise, insecure ta nga tawo and naay crab mentality

ahem! "claims", "substance", "verified", "clarify"-- those are the words frequently used by you and your "kababayans" since time immemorial. I dont know why people keep on asking "verifications", "clarifications" and look for "substance" on claims and etc... Are we on court rule here? It seems as if almost all aspects of what were tackled in this thread are always faced with those kind of queries.

As I see it, it seems that what whatever is being tackled may seem so untrue to most of you from there.

You see, that alone can make this thread a mess as most people keep on "verifying", "clarifying" and "looking for substance" in every topic. For one thing, nobody even dares to ask the other thread the same thing. :ohno:

I wish we can be like the other threads in SSC where comparison has no mix of envy, bashing, and all those sort of destructive doings being done by other people on this thread.
why are those words dreadful? this is not a court as you said. why most of you take all of them like youre guilty. this is a public forum give out your opinions. about what you know. and not start creating atmosphere like "watch out here they are again". dont make us believe youre katkat. it doesnt help to just post anything that attract unwelcoming reactions of people.

i AGREE with you tonzi. That is why i stopped interacting with MtApo in regards to the "gATEWAY TOPIC" because he does NOT believe in personal observations and personal experiences. He wants figures based on study. :bash:

kung gateway from cebu via ferry, eh talagang gateway ang CdO. :)

Spot the agayan de Oro Hub to many parts of Mindanao

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Panagatan
Opol

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Crabs
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Buttered Chicken
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Kinilaw
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Grilled Tuna Belly
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Lechon Kawali
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i AGREE with you tonzi. That is why i stopped interacting with MtApo in regards to the "gATEWAY TOPIC" because he does NOT believe in personal observations and personal experiences. He wants figures based on study. :bash:
go on. thats your way of seeing subjectivtryi and resonable objectivity. thats the way it is i realised

Cagayan de Oro Hub to many parts of Mindanao

http://www.negrosnavigation.ph/passage/promos/roro2007.jpg

via RORO diay...aw, agree pud ko ani

wow kalamia oi.. gigutom ko dah...

via RORO diay...aw, agree pud ko ani
correct me please. is this the ship thatwill take ove the service of aboitez ship between manla and davao? i read. and the roro for davao is via eastern highway by a manila davao bus service.

why are those words dreadful? this is not a court as you said. why most of you take all of them like youre guilty. this is a public forum give out your opinions. about what you know. and not start creating atmosphere like "watch out here they are again". dont make us believe youre katkat. it doesnt help to just post anything that attract unwelcoming reactions of people.

we dont take them like we're guilty. People react because of such connotations of your colleagues there give to Normin forumers. Even the newbies realize that.
im not trying to attract unwelcoming reactions here, its just that somehow not saying anything just makes some of you there do the thing the usual as no one is reacting.

Spot the agayan de Oro Hub to many parts of Mindanao

http://www.negrosnavigation.ph/passage/promos/roro2007.jpg

i nitce major cities are always written prominently in big bold letters. why is that

hi cdo pls welcome me back hehehe... busy so busy....mukhang maapoy talaga thread natin
sing init ng mga developments ng cdo and mis or.
ayo2x...

i nitce major cities are always written prominently in big bold letters. why is that

maybe the company doesnt realize that there other places other those places in bold letters. Mostly, companies only realize the usual cities and not the other cities that are gaining ground too.

we dont take them like we're guilty. People react because of such connotations of your colleagues there give to Normin forumers. Even the newbies realize that.
im not trying to attract unwelcoming reactions here, its just that somehow not saying anything just makes some of you there do the thing the usual as no one is reacting.
for each time you find one, confront him in the open board. you will be judged not by how well whinging attract sympathy but by your educated reasons. love sit and watch

^^Pretty obvious. Yong mga naka-bold, mga bagong desti yan. Dati hindi yan kabilang sa mga destinasyon. :)

i nitce major cities are always written prominently in big bold letters. why is that

I BEG TO disagree. The cities in bold letters are not all big. Please look carefully... Butuan and Cotabato. These are NOT MAJOR CITIES. :bash:

the ad says:

MGA BAGONG DESTINASYON

so the BIG LETTERS....

^^So naive. :bash:

^^Pretty obvious. Yong mga naka-bold, mga bagong desti yan. Dati hindi yan kabilang sa mga destinasyon. :)

:lol::lol::lol:Very obvious, kelangan pa bang i-memorize yan...Misled? :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:Very obvious, kelangan pa bang i-memorize yan...Misled? :lol:

whatever yaya...ur such a loser....hahhahahah...

In the article that I posted and to my follow up query, It's clearly bro on what's going on and your specific question is unnecessary. Maybe isa ka sa mga namislead, :lol:

firstly boju, it was my question to newyorker when he quoted metropilan discussion. and bec you got in, i assumed you knew what i meant. i reffered to the table of your original post to know more. and what are you talking about now

the ad says:

MGA BAGONG DESTINASYON

so the BIG LETTERS....

so be it!:lol::lol::lol:

Too much knowledge as dangerous as too little. :lol:

goin to manila via western side roro is good only for those coming from lanao and zambo peninsula but the rest cguro prefer to go via eastern side which took only twice on ferry boat in Liloan-surigao (3-4hrs) and Allen-San Isidro(2-3hrs) terminals.

I close ni inyong thread kay puro ra away... walay lami... walay hinungdan... hala undanga... dili maayo i promote ang city kung ing-ani ang sitwasyon... paskang brighta ninyo oi... gawas ng dili mao... Imbes nga mag promote sa kada City puro na hinuon away. moabot ug Thread 100 pas pas kaayo tas non sense walay hinungdan puro away. Bad promotion. ayaw nalang ninyo tubaga kay aron dili mo taas... ayaw nag pansina ng mga critics kay normal ra na...

I BEG TO disagree. The cities in bold letters are not all big. Please look carefully... Butuan and Cotabato. These are NOT MAJOR CITIES. :bash:
for all i knew only manila davao zambonga and maybe puerto princesa anre the only known everywhere.

so be it!:lol::lol::lol:
yea for negros navigation:lol:

for all i knew only manila davao zambonga and maybe puerto princesa anre the only known everywhere.

Fact or opinion? Basis?

Too much knowledge as dangerous as too little. :lol:

I beg to disagree...not too much knowledge..its simply arrogance...

I close ni inyong thread kay puro ra away... walay lami... walay hinungdan... hala undanga... dili maayo i promote ang city kung ing-ani ang sitwasyon... paskang brighta ninyo oi... gawas ng dili mao... Imbes nga mag promote sa kada City puro na hinuon away. moabot ug Thread 100 pas pas kaayo tas non sense walay hinungdan puro away. Bad promotion. ayaw nalang ninyo tubaga kay aron dili mo taas... ayaw nag pansina ng mga critics kay normal ra na...

Puro away ka dyan, nakaka-annoy ang puro ayaw pero ingon man daw gyud ani ang forum. Speaking of paspas ang forum tungod sa lalis, I remember a forumer from davao said that he's inclined to think na ang panagbangi daw is intentional para mupaspas ang thread:lol::lol::lol:
I replied na ang premyo ng may pinakamaraming thread ay trip to jerusalem....:lol::nuts::lol:

Fact or opinion? Basis?
i forgot to include boracay

i forgot to include boracay

ATTENTION: pls neglect baseless.....

Opinion lang na uy unless merong syang mai-present na data, otherwise na misled napud...:lol::lol::lol:

Fact or opinion? Basis?

Mt.Apo please answer this specific question: Fact or Opinion? Provide basis please as a support. Thanks! :nuts:

Puro away ka dyan, nakaka-annoy ang puro ayaw pero ingon man daw gyud ani ang forum. Speaking of paspas ang forum tungod sa lalis, I remember a forumer from davao said that he's inclined to think na ang panagbangi daw is intentional para mupaspas ang thread????:lol::lol::lol:I replied ang premyo ay trip to jerusalem....:lol::nuts::lol:
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Opinion lang na uy unless merong syang mai-present na data...

I think so! we also have rights to contest should this statement be construed true by readers of this thread...

^^ timer starts now.....:lol:

Mt.Apo please answer this specific question: Fact or Opinion? Provide basis please as a support. Thanks! :nuts:

it's a claim....:banana:

low-bat ang timer...:lol:

^^ timer starts now.....:lol:

We are all waiting for you to answer!:ohno:

low-bat ang timer...:lol:

The talk is over...the statement is based on presumed personal judgment...nothing to worry...

Mt.Apo please answer this specific question: Fact or Opinion? Provide basis please as a support. Thanks! :nuts:
so you found dent. for all i knew means my personal knowledge of the number of people i knew from everywhere who can name places in the philippines

^^ timer starts now.....:lol:

low-bat ang timer...:lol:

We are all waiting for you to answer!:ohno:
youre all lucky youre lazy just sitting around:lol:

so you found dent. for all i knew means my personal knowledge of the number of people i knew from everywhere who can name places in the philippines

Oic>>>

so you found dent. for all i knew means my personal knowledge of the number of people i knew from everywhere who can name places in the philippines

OKAY, The point at hand is closed!

Oic>>>
and your point?

and your point?

Let me paraphrase (sorry onlooker I might be mistaken but I will try... hehehe). OIC means: so is that all your point to the question raised (Fact or Opinion? Basis?).... You did not even answer squarely to the question....:bash:

Let me paraphrase (sorry onlooker I might be mistaken but I will try... hehehe). OIC means: so is that all your point to the question raised (Fact or Opinion? Basis?).... You did not even answer squarely to the question....:bash:

i was enlightened...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that...:ohno:

speaking of travel, I think Rural Transit is now the largest bus transport company in Mindanao, true?