View Full Version : #Greenpoint Stadium - 69,070 - Cape Town [Part 3]
dysan1 October 21st, 2008, 05:32 PM Guys lets carry on where we left off in Part 2
Click on the link below to go to the start of part 2
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=503967
Mo Rush October 21st, 2008, 06:02 PM Please rename: Green Point Stadium - 69,070 - Cape Town [Part 3]
shacky October 21st, 2008, 08:11 PM ^^ :lol:
Inertia October 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM What about the hash? tsk tsk; #Green Point Stadium - 69,070 - Cape Town [Part 3]
Lydon October 21st, 2008, 09:48 PM Our baby is growing up :( and with it comes a new thread!
Durbsboi October 22nd, 2008, 09:26 AM 69 070 :?
annman October 22nd, 2008, 10:02 AM ^^ Think the 68,000 number was just an original estimate, now that tiers and seating are being finalised, assume that is the actual total number of seats now.
Mo Rush October 22nd, 2008, 11:19 AM ^^ Think the 68,000 number was just an original estimate, now that tiers and seating are being finalised, assume that is the actual total number of seats now.
Design Report: May 2007
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/GreenPointCapacity.jpg
Lydon October 22nd, 2008, 12:03 PM Thanks for the rename Dysan :)
Durbsboi October 22nd, 2008, 03:48 PM So whats Moses gonna be? 73 021 :?
Martsbra October 22nd, 2008, 08:18 PM cant they find space for an extra 930 peeps. surely.
Mo Rush October 22nd, 2008, 09:07 PM just got home from 3 hour stadium tour and presentation!
where on earth do you get to talk to world class architects, urban designers, planners!
amazing!
Mo Rush October 22nd, 2008, 09:20 PM i also touched many of the compression ring structures!
took a pic of where the truss will be attached. even took a pic of the code of the compression ring structure.
ImNOTyourBABYDaddy October 23rd, 2008, 05:42 AM post the pix of the pix
brasil2014 October 23rd, 2008, 05:48 AM I don´t know because I never went to South Africa. How is the autumn-winter (the stations of the next cup) in the host cities. is so cold? Is warm? Is true that in Durban the temperature in winter is of 25 degrees in the afternoon? Sorry, but, I don´t know it. and is interesant know more about the climate during the cup.
Some world cup stadium will have a light effect how the allianz arena maybe?
Hunterdry October 23rd, 2008, 08:24 AM Hi Brasil2014. Depend where you going. most host city dont snow during winter but yeah it cold. Actually Durban is the warmest city where the weather never freeze, actually during winter in durban in morning we have average 15 degree and afternoon 22-25 degree. Also you may able to swim in Indian Ocean during winter time :).
As light effect? I'm sure there will be. i'm sure you have see the picture of durban stadium.
Durbsboi October 23rd, 2008, 08:33 AM Mo you basturd, if only we had stadium tours here too :ohno:
post them pictures!!!!
annman October 23rd, 2008, 08:45 AM I don´t know because I never went to South Africa. How is the autumn-winter (the stations of the next cup) in the host cities. is so cold? Is warm? Is true that in Durban the temperature in winter is of 25 degrees in the afternoon? Sorry, but, I don´t know it. and is interesant know more about the climate during the cup.
Some world cup stadium will have a light effect how the allianz arena maybe?
The Cape Town (Green Point Stadium) looks most like the Allianz Stadium, but most stadia in S.Africa will be spectacular and I'm sure all will have very impressive lighting, especially Durban's stadium with it's 100m high arch.
Cape Town has weather like central Chile in winter. Cool, windy and wet in winter usually, with bright, still, cool days interspersed in between. No snow on ground, snows often on mountains. Min: 6ºC/Max:16ºC
Port Elizabeth, similar to Cape Town, but less rain and slightly warmer. Wind is a problem.
Min: 6ºC/Max:18ºC
Durban, warm and subtropical, very few rain days, mostly sunny (like southern Brazil) Min: 15ºC/Max:23ºC
Johannesburg/Pretoria area: Jo'burg is always 2 degrees colder than Pretoria, both have a continental climate, like Curitiba, but Jo'burg is maybe cooler. Dry, sunny, crisp winters. Seldom snows.
Min: 0ºC/Max:15ºC
Bloemfontein: Similar to Johannesburg, nights are colder. Almost always dry and sunny in winter. Seldom snows.
Min: -3ºC/Max:15ºC
Just an estimate and quick synopsis. :)
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 10:31 AM [QUOTE=annman;27000186]The Cape Town (Green Point Stadium) looks most like the Allianz Stadium, but most stadia in S.Africa will be spectacular and I'm sure all will have very impressive lighting, especially Durban's stadium with it's 100m high arch.
/QUOTE]
Green Point stadium is a combination of:
Emirates Stadium
Berlin Olympic Stadium
Its lighting is not meant to be like Allianz. The stadium will glow from the inside like a lantern rather than shine. Its meant to be elegant rather than "pop" like Allianz. It is also larger than Allianz in width and length and capacity.
and to those "pro Newlands" people, take a visit to Green Point. The atmosphere at night for any rugby match would be electric.
With Green Point stadium you literally are on top of the field. Its so intimate the stadium actually feels small.
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 05:30 PM Source: Flickr, flxy
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/2966670848_fa77976c2a_b.jpg
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM Green Point Stadium naming rights to go on sale post-2010
The City of Cape Town has come up with several clever ideas to cover its budget deficit and deal with the escalating construction costs of Green Point Stadium, writes Michael Appel.
The metropolitan municipality, like every other 2010 FIFA World Cup host city, has had to deal with rampant increases in the costs of transport, labour and goods since on-site construction began on 22 March 2007.
The city's 2010 spokesperson, Pieter Cronje, explained that since February this year they have been facing a budget deficit of R580 million.
"We are facing a funding gap of about R580 million, but our own plan to cover that shortfall is the sale of corporate suites, as well as the sale of the naming rights of the stadium to a commercial entity.
"Green Point is just a location and there is no branding attached to it, so we are planning to sell the right to brand the name of the stadium after the World Cup," he said.
Mr Cronje added that the municipality was just one of many who were facing similar challenges.
"We believe the funding gap is a problem facing all host cities, but we [as the City of Cape Town] have certainly not sat on our hands, we actually also have a plan to do our bit."
Speaking to BuaNews, Mr Cronje highlighted that when they submitted their initial proposed budget to the National Treasury they allowed for a conservative 10 percent for escalation in costs and 5 percent as emergency funds. However, supply and demand have outstripped those parameters.
"The City of Cape Town is contributing R500 million, the Western Cape Provincial Government about R212 million and national government just over R2 billion, and we have also received smaller amounts from the Development Bank of South Africa (DBSA)," Mr Cronje said.
He explained that their estimates of public sector investment in Cape Town which are linked to the world cup were in excess of R8 billion, but more likely to be R10 billion, while the cost of the actual stadium is estimated to be about R4.5 billion.
"Some of the biggest challenges facing us are time and money, because when you have various role players you have to manage the money and the time very carefully, and you can never drop your guard," he said.
The stadium's site-specific cost is about R800 million because of the location of the stadium, that they hit bedrock at about 8 to 10 meters. Drilling or blasting was not an option as surrounding buildings would have been damaged.
"While we are happy we have a solid foundation, unlike other stadiums, we couldn't excavate but had to go higher up and that's where your costs start to rise due to more crane work," Mr Cronje explained
He said they had to make sure the stadium did not increase the traffic flow due to the proximity of surrounding residential and commercial areas, hence the requirement about public transport, noise levels and unsightly lighting.
Had the stadium been built on a neutral piece of land without any of the above restrictions placed on it, Mr Cronje said the stadium would effectively be R800 million cheaper.
The city faced steep challenges before construction even began, said Mr Cronje, explaining that Green Point Stadium was to be built in the middle of a commercial and residential area.
"We had a legal challenge in the High Court trying to stop us form building this, and we had to go through several public approval and appeal processes, but despite that we have caught up and are currently ahead of the game," said the city's 2010 spokesperson.
With its serene views, diverse fauna and flora and most-recognisable symbol in South Africa, Table Mountain, Mr Cronje told BuaNews that they estimate that every four out of five tourists visiting South Africa will visit the city.
"We are a long haul destination so we expect fewer people will come but they will stay longer with four out of five visitors coming to Cape Town, spending an average of R800 a day," he said.
As Cape Town is not hosting any Confederations Cup matches, the city will be using next year's tournament to test their Public Viewing Areas (PVAs) in the Central Business District (CBD).
There are plans for one official FIFA Fan Park, Mr Cronje said, which has as its centre the Grand Parade and will extend through the CBD and the waterfront right up to the stadium.This idea was based on the FIFA Fan Mile in Berlin which proved to be popular among fans.
There will be three PVAs which will not be under FIFA regulation to be held in Swartklip Sport Centre, Athlone Stadium, and the Belville Velodrome.
Mr Cronje said the city was confident the 68 000 capacity stadium, to be reduced to a 55 000 seater post-2010, is four days ahead of schedule and on track to be completed by the 14 December 2009 deadline. - BuaNews
RavenX October 23rd, 2008, 05:59 PM Yo Mo,
What's with the control tower?
http://i35.************/2lbgphv.jpg
Cheers
RavenX
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 06:06 PM http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/2966956404_9fb3d1be9a_o.jpg
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 06:06 PM Yo Mo,
What's with the control tower?
http://i35.************/2lbgphv.jpg
Cheers
RavenX
measures tolerances. aka zille's seat.
Mo Rush October 23rd, 2008, 11:42 PM I prefer this music when the Green Point stadium video is played.
http://www.zoopy.com/video/detail/id/12681
The music with the animation on youtube is not africany enough.
Lydon October 24th, 2008, 12:14 AM The animation on youtube's music is awesome. It's really dramatic and "WOW-inducing."
Durbsboi October 24th, 2008, 08:00 AM Yo Mo,
What's with the control tower?
http://i35.************/2lbgphv.jpg
Cheers
RavenX
Da plunger :crazy:
Mo Rush October 25th, 2008, 09:41 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/2966070881_bc0b00ea79.jpg?v=0
Mo Rush October 25th, 2008, 09:44 AM http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_75aEzCkyh5Y/SQAl8rEfNSI/AAAAAAAAASg/CnoMAKBx1L8/s1600/greenpoint%2Bstadium%2B151008.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_75aEzCkyh5Y/SQAl85wGqMI/AAAAAAAAASo/c8ZUdErZjUw/s1600/greenpoint%2Bstadium%2B231008.JPG
Mo Rush October 26th, 2008, 06:00 PM http://imod.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/greenpoint-stadium-waterfront.jpg
cthighflyer October 28th, 2008, 06:14 AM i wonder if that macdonalds will stay,such i nice location for a hard rock cafe or something really special.Not worthy of macdonalds
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 07:09 AM i wonder if that macdonalds will stay,such i nice location for a hard rock cafe or something really special.Not worthy of macdonalds
yes, its a heritage building.
Durbsboi October 28th, 2008, 08:18 AM And I re-iterate my statement before. That owner is going to make a killing in 2010!
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 01:03 PM And I re-iterate my statement before. That owner is going to make a killing in 2010!
unless MCDEE is a FIFA sponsor/partner it will be closed.
annman October 28th, 2008, 03:53 PM ^^ I actually think they are... they have FIFA 2010 countdown clocks in some of their CT outlets, saw one prominently in the TygerValley Restaurant.
RavenX October 28th, 2008, 04:20 PM These are the 15 Official Sponsors for the 2010 World Cup...
FIFA Partners:
Adidas
Emirates
Sony
Coca~Cola
Hyundai/Kia
Visa
FIFA World Cup Official Sponsors :
Budweiser
Continental
MTN
Castrol
McDonald's
Satyam
National Supportors
FNB
Telkom
Official Campaigns
20 Centres for 2010
And no Mo, FIFA cannot close down Outlets / Businesses that are in the Advertising Zone around the Stadiums ~ Thanks to our constitution. ~ Only the so-called "Pariah" Advertising thereof by non-official FIFA Partners & Sponsors ~ (and even that now is in dispute here at the Constitutional Court)
To make this clear, we have Nando's / Steers / KFC already allocated for a number of our food and beverage outlets within the New Durban Stadium for the FIFA games.
Cheers
RavenX
herb21 October 28th, 2008, 05:17 PM i wonder if that macdonalds will stay,such i nice location for a hard rock cafe or something really special.Not worthy of macdonalds
I love that mac donalds, Such great and wierd memories from concerts
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 06:50 PM [/LIST]And no Mo, FIFA cannot close down Outlets / Businesses that are in the Advertising Zone around the Stadiums ~ Thanks to our constitution. ~ Only the so-called "Pariah" Advertising thereof by non-official FIFA Partners & Sponsors ~ (and even that now is in dispute here at the Constitutional Court)
To make this clear, we have Nando's / Steers / KFC already allocated for a number of our food and beverage outlets within the New Durban Stadium for the FIFA games.
Cheers
RavenX
Ill check with a few sources, but a far as I know those nandos, steers, kfc inside the stadium will close during the world cup. mcdees would close to prevent crowds around a major access point i.e. the main concourse
DennisRodman97 October 28th, 2008, 07:40 PM why would kfc and mickey dees close ...they pose to provide food for the spectators?
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 07:51 PM why would kfc and mickey dees close ...they pose to provide food for the spectators?
according to the host city agreement signed by each city, the stadium must be presented as a "clean" stadium. FIFA essentially uses the stadium and its space as it wishes for its world cup, its not the city hosting the world cup at the stadium, but FIFA with its own security team, its own sponsors, suppliers.
restaurants around the stadium of course are not within FIFA's control
e.g. cticc is the venue, each conference at the venue is run by the conference organizers not the cticc. cticc is the space
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 07:58 PM http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/1-11.png
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 08:02 PM To make this clear, we have Nando's / Steers / KFC already allocated for a number of our food and beverage outlets within the New Durban Stadium for the FIFA games.
Cheers
RavenX
I assume the city of Durban has entered into negotations with FIFA/LOC to allow Nandos/KFC to operate because this is what they signed.
Extract: Stadium use agreement signed by the City of Durban and FIFA
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/exclusiveuse.jpg
Mo Rush October 28th, 2008, 10:51 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2981470997_ded563224f_o.jpg
DennisRodman97 October 29th, 2008, 12:20 AM according to the host city agreement signed by each city, the stadium must be presented as a "clean" stadium. FIFA essentially uses the stadium and its space as it wishes for its world cup, its not the city hosting the world cup at the stadium, but FIFA with its own security team, its own sponsors, suppliers.
restaurants around the stadium of course are not within FIFA's control
e.g. cticc is the venue, each conference at the venue is run by the conference organizers not the cticc. cticc is the space
i see
Ron2K October 29th, 2008, 06:42 AM That photo two posts above is absolutely awesome.
mandana October 29th, 2008, 07:22 AM mo that pic is incredible!
Lydon October 29th, 2008, 10:44 AM I love that mac donalds, Such great and wierd memories from concerts
Amen :cheers:
Mo Rush October 29th, 2008, 06:14 PM Amen :cheers:
esp robbie williams concert and 46664
Mo Rush October 29th, 2008, 06:40 PM Stadium to be completed next December
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By Gabi Khumalo
Cape Town - Green Point Stadium, which is currently being upgraded to host 2010 FIFA World Cup matches, is scheduled to be completed by 14 December 2009, Cape Town Mayor Helen Zille announced on Wednesday.
Speaking at a council meeting held at the Cape Town Civic Centre on Wednesday, Mayor Zille said the stadium would be ready to host matches by 2010 and that the city's preparations were well organised.
The concrete works will be completed at the end of October, and then the main tasks will be to complete the roof and facade, laying the grass pitch and installing the seating and fittings.
"Work on the podium and the precinct is underway and on schedule, the compression beams of the roof are going up at a steady rate and more than two dozen are already resting on the 72 columns," Ms Zille said.
Two members of the city's 2010 Project Team recently returned from visits to specialist contractors in Germany and Poland, where components of the roof and facade are being manufactured.
They reported that the work was proceeding on schedule and some of the items were already in the process of being shipped to Cape Town.
"Virtually all the sub-contracts for the stadium will have been awarded by the end of this year and negotiations with the preferred bidder for the operating contract (a consortium of Stade de France and Sail Group) are continuing.
"Apart from the stadium itself, reconstruction of Green Point common, the golf course and local roads are all expected to commence shortly," Mayor Zille informed the council.
She further announced that Cape Town will host the final draw for 2010 on 4 December 2009 adding that the city is expecting a major international television coverage and an influx of the world's soccer fraternity.
The re-construction of Koeberg Interchange and Table Bay Boulevard has also started with both projects expected to be finished by March 2010.
"Our planning for the fan park, fan mile and public viewing sites is reaching completion and we are now entering the implementation phase, in which we will be putting out tenders for service providers.
"We are working closely with the SAPS on the safety and security aspects, the disaster management and emergency services have been reviewed and adequate resources will be made available to ensure that 2010 will be a safe and successful event," Mayor Zille said.
President Kgalema Mothlanthe is also expected to visit Cape Town on 8 November to be briefed on the city's readiness for 2010 and visit Green Point stadium. - BuaNews
Durbsboi October 30th, 2008, 08:36 AM Ill check with a few sources, but a far as I know those nandos, steers, kfc inside the stadium will close during the world cup. mcdees would close to prevent crowds around a major access point i.e. the main concourse
Other food outlets are allowed even tho they not sponsor's BUT the person is NOT allowed to take the food into the stadium seating area. It was like that in the Cricket WC, other food outlets inside the stadium were selling but we were'nt allowed to eat it on our seats... so something similar could be in place.
Mo Rush October 30th, 2008, 10:13 AM Other food outlets are allowed even tho they not sponsor's BUT the person is NOT allowed to take the food into the stadium seating area. It was like that in the Cricket WC, other food outlets inside the stadium were selling but we were'nt allowed to eat it on our seats... so something similar could be in place.
I have the stadium use agreement cities sign with FIFA and thats not how things work. Cities provide FIFA with an empty clean stadium space, then FIFA decides what to do with the space. Of course cities can enter into negotiations but if FIFA wants the KFC space to be replaced with Budd then thats going to happen.
haggiesm October 30th, 2008, 11:19 AM urgh. so we have to get used to budd :(
JohanSA October 30th, 2008, 12:00 PM American beers taste awfull!
annman October 30th, 2008, 01:47 PM "Like making love in a canoe... F%cking close to water!" :lol:
JohanSA October 30th, 2008, 02:53 PM haha classic . I love my Windhoek :cheers1:
herb21 October 30th, 2008, 03:00 PM esp robbie williams concert and 46664
Nah the first coke concert. The most amazing preformances!
Lydon October 30th, 2008, 04:51 PM Nah the first coke concert. The most amazing preformances!
Agreed. I stood next to Leonardo Di'Caprio when I went to the VIP booth for a chat with some peoples - he was on holiday :) Not that I care but it was really random.
Martsbra October 30th, 2008, 06:58 PM haha classic . I love my Windhoek :cheers1:
So they have very little water in namibia. recycled toilet water baby! yeah! :banana:
Mo Rush October 30th, 2008, 11:49 PM I touched the compression ring and I liked it.
Lydon October 31st, 2008, 12:12 AM I touched the compression ring and I liked it.
Was it wearing cherry chapstick?
Mo Rush October 31st, 2008, 12:17 AM Pics from the tour I went on:
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/themule/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2984191689_2c40eca2b8_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2985054460_80e7d51a97_b.jpg
Mo Rush October 31st, 2008, 12:22 AM Was it wearing cherry chapstick?
nope. ill show you in a sec.
Mo Rush October 31st, 2008, 12:32 AM Was it wearing cherry chapstick?
Where will the steel roof trusses be attached???
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2987047131_c15b14771a.jpg?v=0
Compression ring component code
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2987897470_74885dec61.jpg?v=0
Compression ring wearing blue
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2387/2987892368_b0db2a87bd.jpg?v=0
Angh October 31st, 2008, 02:41 AM That compression ring looks sexy in blue, but l think she'll look better with nothing on.
Durbsboi October 31st, 2008, 08:09 AM I have the stadium use agreement cities sign with FIFA and thats not how things work. Cities provide FIFA with an empty clean stadium space, then FIFA decides what to do with the space. Of course cities can enter into negotiations but if FIFA wants the KFC space to be replaced with Budd then thats going to happen.
Screw bud, we want da fried sheeken!
JohanSA November 1st, 2008, 11:30 AM So they have very little water in namibia. recycled toilet water baby! yeah! :banana:
Wondered why there beer is cheaper than water lol. A draught is R5 in Nam :cheers:
Mo Rush November 1st, 2008, 03:09 PM more pics from my tour of stadium
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/1-12.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0156.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0168.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0172.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0173.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0174.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0175.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0176.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0179.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0180.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0181.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0188.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0187.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0195.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0192.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0198.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Image0196.jpg
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 12:01 AM 23 October
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_23_08_b.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_23_08_d.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_23_08_a.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_23_08_c.jpg
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 12:06 AM 24 October
Temporary seating tier installation
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_24_08_a.jpg
Compression ring installation
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_24_08_b.jpg
View of Harbour
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_24_08_e.jpg
Stadium Bowl progress
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_24_08_i.jpg
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 12:38 AM 28 October : woooow!
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_28_08_a.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_28_08_b.jpg
crazyloca November 2nd, 2008, 08:34 AM Lovely pics.... :) One&Only Hotel coming along nicely in the background there too...
SA BOY November 2nd, 2008, 10:33 AM fuck me those are amazing pictures , what a stunning day and might I add city
haggiesm November 2nd, 2008, 10:37 AM goooood stuff :D
Cape Town Guy November 2nd, 2008, 03:07 PM can't wait to hold my ticket for the big day of the first match. Going to spectacular. From a well educated guess i'd love to own one of those apartments, they cant be feeling the recession to bad or am i wrong?
Great updates guys.
Lutzno November 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM 24 October
Temporary seating tier installation
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Oct_24_08_a.jpg
Explain??
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 08:42 PM Explain??
The thinner white steel supports are for the temporary seating of the third tier.
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 09:59 PM Green Point Stadium: First Concept Design
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/ctstadiuminitial-1.png
Cape Town Guy November 2nd, 2008, 10:10 PM Not sure if I like that at all or what. For me there's some real elegance about the final design which suits CTs character 100%.
Lydon November 2nd, 2008, 10:31 PM Yeah, I prefer the final design. The concept design is a little "look at me! I'm trying to be different but failing!"-ish.
Lutzno November 2nd, 2008, 10:59 PM The thinner white steel supports are for the temporary seating of the third tier.
why doesnt have the "stair/step/jagged thing" on top and why is it not connected to the bottom, or the column
Inertia November 2nd, 2008, 11:10 PM why doesnt have the "stair/step/jagged thing" on top and why is it not connected to the bottom, or the column
If you look, the steps will be welded onto the beams, and the concrete will be cast around the rebar in place below the beams. I guess they were a bit eager to get the beams in place.
Lutzno November 2nd, 2008, 11:19 PM it still doesnt reach the coloumn
Lutzno November 2nd, 2008, 11:23 PM very important question: which side will the cameras be on, i think its so important that they on the golf course side, so they will face table mountain/city/harbour, even if you wont be able to see it
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 11:30 PM it still doesnt reach the coloumn
it will be completed in stages. i
Mo Rush November 2nd, 2008, 11:39 PM very important question: which side will the cameras be on, i think its so important that they on the golf course side, so they will face table mountain/city/harbour, even if you wont be able to see it
TV camera positions are integrated into the stadium bowl design for optimum viewing angles in terms of the basic geometry of the stadium.
The following platforms for cameras are planned:
- 3 main cameras on grandstand
- 2 in goal cameras
- 3 reverse angle cameras on opposite stand
- 1 mobile cam in front of opposite stand
- 4 high 16' cameras on upper stand
- 2 bench cameras
Final selection of camera platforms is based on a decision by FIFA and HBS (host broadcaster services).
http://www.hbs.tv/2010fwc-60.html
Inertia November 2nd, 2008, 11:45 PM it still doesnt reach the coloumn
Have faith
Lutzno November 2nd, 2008, 11:52 PM which is the grandstand?
Mo Rush November 3rd, 2008, 12:10 AM which is the grandstand?
green point common side.
hbs were responsible for cameras zooming through the gap of the berlin olympic stadium during the final and onto the field. I really dont think we have to be worried about the location being exploited.
Mo Rush November 5th, 2008, 05:15 PM there was a strike...and then there was no strike
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/3002918269_22f9739bf2_o.jpg
Mo Rush November 5th, 2008, 05:33 PM :)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_75aEzCkyh5Y/SRA8xlQMu_I/AAAAAAAAATw/N5TuPUyLnk0/s1600/greenpoint%2Bstadium%2B41108
herb21 November 5th, 2008, 06:25 PM The compression ring really allows one to get a sense of the stadiums finished mass and flow
annman November 5th, 2008, 07:28 PM ^^ Zille-Magi-GrowTM: For all your "quick-strike-ending" needs!
Okay, I'll stop, I know this is getting... :old:
herb21 November 5th, 2008, 07:45 PM but its still cool
Durbsboi November 6th, 2008, 07:58 AM We so need more pic's of MM from the sea :(
haggiesm November 6th, 2008, 09:40 AM stunning pic that:applause:
RavenX November 7th, 2008, 08:05 AM Something I picked up on very early...
Has anyone else noticed how neat & orderly the Greenpoint Site is as compared to that of Moses Mabhida Stadium in Durban.
Also, the safety measures at Greenpoint far exceed that of Durban's.
The Building, Site & Safety Inspectors of eThekweni need a huge Sutcliffe Size boot up their asses.
Well Done Cape Town, I salute you all.
I'll post some comparison shots over at the New Durban Stadium thread, later on today.
Cheers
RavenX
Mo Rush November 7th, 2008, 12:44 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/3009249086_6be98bf5c3_o.jpg
Cape Town Guy November 7th, 2008, 01:33 PM wow! almost looks like its completed with something happening! awesome pic.
haggiesm November 7th, 2008, 01:35 PM stunning^^
Mo Rush November 7th, 2008, 01:38 PM 6 out of the 8 matches take place at 20:30
Cape Town’s match schedule is as follows:
Date Match Time
Friday 11 June Group A 20:30
Monday 14 June Group F 20:30
Friday 18 June Group C 20:30
Monday 21 June Group G 13:30
Thursday 24 June Group E 20:30
Tuesday 29 June Round of 16 20:30
Saturday 3 July Quarter final 16:00
Tuesday 6 July Semi-final 20:30
Mo Rush November 7th, 2008, 01:47 PM 6 out of the 8 matches take place at 20:30
Cape Town’s match schedule is as follows:
Date Match Time
Friday 11 June Group A 20:30
Monday 14 June Group F 20:30
Friday 18 June Group C 20:30
Monday 21 June Group G 13:30
Thursday 24 June Group E 20:30
Tuesday 29 June Round of 16 20:30
Saturday 3 July Quarter final 16:00
Tuesday 6 July Semi-final 20:30
Using the 2006 FIFA WC matches. These types of teams would form the final
match schedule.
Friday 11 June Group A 20:30 Poland v Ecuador
Monday 14 June Group F 20:30 Brazil v Croatia
Friday 18 June Group C 20:30 Argentina v Serbia & Montenegro
Monday 21 June Group G 13:30 Switzerland v Togo
Thursday 24 June Group E 20:30 Czech Rep. v Italy
[LIST]
Tuesday 29 June Round of 16 20:30 Spain v France
Saturday 3 July Quarter final 16:00 England v Portugal
Tuesday 6 July Semi-final 20:30 Germany v Italy
Mo Rush November 9th, 2008, 02:02 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3013461058_fa4d67a928_o.jpg
Mo Rush November 9th, 2008, 02:21 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/3009249162_ffa0e8111c_o.jpg
Lutzno November 9th, 2008, 08:47 AM mo, cant you get any pics or info on the green point circle?
Mo Rush November 9th, 2008, 10:07 AM mo, cant you get any pics or info on the green point circle?
i know its over budget. im sure there was a render somewhere here. not sure when i can get pics of the circle. not much happening above ground level yet.
annman November 9th, 2008, 11:29 AM Saturday Argus from yesterday...
New Stadium Price Tag: R4.5billion
haggiesm November 9th, 2008, 11:41 AM still amazing value for money, compared to stadiums abroad.
briker November 9th, 2008, 04:00 PM a billion is LOOOT of money! I still can't see how one structure can cost so much. The waterfront (R7bln) must have been a steal then compared to.
annman November 9th, 2008, 04:27 PM Do redo the Waterfront from scratch today would probably be a lot more expensive. Inflation and all and all... :)
Mo Rush November 9th, 2008, 05:30 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3015371147_9d31bdff4f_b.jpg
Bevski November 9th, 2008, 09:02 PM I'm loving this stadium, can't wait to pay her a visit next April! :)
One question I have, in aerial pics I see stands being biult next to the staduim in a semi-circular pattern? What are these for? Athletics track?
Lutzno November 9th, 2008, 09:08 PM its the old green point stadium. they left the grandstand and its now a museum for the history of the green point common, and it also acts as the new stadiums visitors centre. the workers also use it for when they take their breaks.
herb21 November 9th, 2008, 09:13 PM ^^ Mo what happens to it once the stadium is fully complete?
Mo Rush November 9th, 2008, 09:27 PM ^^ Mo what happens to it once the stadium is fully complete?
It will remain and be upgraded as part of the new urban park, along with an athletics track. The remainder of the previous stadium bowl will become a grass embankment, and landscaped urban edge.
herb21 November 10th, 2008, 09:06 AM Awsome. hmm that might in many ways make a better concert venue than the new satadium.
haggiesm November 10th, 2008, 10:35 AM Sound might be a problem because it's so open and the new stadium is state of the art in that regard.
Mo Rush November 10th, 2008, 11:28 AM Sound might be a problem because it's so open and the new stadium is state of the art in that regard.
The new stadium operator will make sure the new stadium is used for concerts. The sound levels will be much lower than concerts at the previous stadium.
herb21 November 10th, 2008, 11:59 AM ^^ That much I agree with up till the point that concert operators want a "greenfield site" or second stage. Also it would be more suitable for smaller capacities imo.
Dames November 10th, 2008, 01:02 PM Presentation on stadium roof
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/PublishingImages/News%20Images/GP_satd_roof_Oct_08_s.jpg
A German structural engineer is to give an insider’s perspective on the design and construction of the Green Point Stadium roof.
As the first elements of the roof of the new Green Point Stadium start to take shape, the next presentation for the 2010 Lecture Series will feature a once-off presentation by German roof structural engineer Knut Goeppert.
Goeppert will give his audience an insider’s perspective on the design and construction of the unique roof, which will take nearly a year to complete.
He is the managing director of the Stuttgart-based Schlaich Bergermann und Partner - a company that has been involved in 15 Soccer World Cup stadia over the last 10 years. He is currently working on four of South Africa’s 2010 stadiums.
“The Green Point Stadium is special”, Goeppert says. “We see it in the same league as our Olympic Stadium designs in Munich (1972) and Berlin (refurbishment for the World Cup Final 2006). It is different from many recent large scale stadia, and will be an elegant and sustainable solution, structurally sound and unique.”
The 36 000 square metre hanging roof is curved to give the stadium a flowing look from every perspective. It will be translucent to take full advantage of natural light and will be weighted down with 3500 tons of steel and 1000 tons of glass, to cope with Cape Town’s strong winds.
Construction on the new roof started in September, with the erection of the first compression ring.
The 2010 Lecture Series is a bi-monthly series of lectures presented by speakers who are integrally involved in the planning and implementation of national projects towards the 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup, whose views are of special interest to the public.
DATE: Thursday 13 November 2008
VENUE: Green Point Stadium Visitor Centre, Vlei Rd, Green Point
TIME: 17:15 for 17:30
PROGRAMME: Guided stadium walk by stadium construction expert. Drinks and presentation
COST: R100.00
RESERVATIONS: Lana on 021 430 0410 / lana@greenpointstadiumvc.co.za
Mo Rush November 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM Presentation on stadium roof
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/PublishingImages/News%20Images/GP_satd_roof_Oct_08_s.jpg
A German structural engineer is to give an insider’s perspective on the design and construction of the Green Point Stadium roof.
As the first elements of the roof of the new Green Point Stadium start to take shape, the next presentation for the 2010 Lecture Series will feature a once-off presentation by German roof structural engineer Knut Goeppert.
Goeppert will give his audience an insider’s perspective on the design and construction of the unique roof, which will take nearly a year to complete.
He is the managing director of the Stuttgart-based Schlaich Bergermann und Partner - a company that has been involved in 15 Soccer World Cup stadia over the last 10 years. He is currently working on four of South Africa’s 2010 stadiums.
“The Green Point Stadium is special”, Goeppert says. “We see it in the same league as our Olympic Stadium designs in Munich (1972) and Berlin (refurbishment for the World Cup Final 2006). It is different from many recent large scale stadia, and will be an elegant and sustainable solution, structurally sound and unique.”
The 36 000 square metre hanging roof is curved to give the stadium a flowing look from every perspective. It will be translucent to take full advantage of natural light and will be weighted down with 3500 tons of steel and 1000 tons of glass, to cope with Cape Town’s strong winds.
Construction on the new roof started in September, with the erection of the first compression ring.
The 2010 Lecture Series is a bi-monthly series of lectures presented by speakers who are integrally involved in the planning and implementation of national projects towards the 2010 FIFA Soccer World Cup, whose views are of special interest to the public.
DATE: Thursday 13 November 2008
VENUE: Green Point Stadium Visitor Centre, Vlei Rd, Green Point
TIME: 17:15 for 17:30
PROGRAMME: Guided stadium walk by stadium construction expert. Drinks and presentation
COST: R100.00
RESERVATIONS: Lana on 021 430 0410 / lana@greenpointstadiumvc.co.za
I'll be there!
Lydon November 10th, 2008, 02:33 PM I love that picture!
Hunterdry November 10th, 2008, 03:42 PM nICE ONE MO, Hope the MM stadium will do the same thing.
Mo Rush November 11th, 2008, 03:21 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/3013447177_3f7b0131f5_o.jpg
DennisRodman97 November 11th, 2008, 05:38 AM what a pix big Mo.....keep it rolling homie
Mo Rush November 11th, 2008, 08:50 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3021959123_64831aede7_o.jpg
tadpolefarm November 11th, 2008, 09:41 PM http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/CTsection.jpg
Bevski November 12th, 2008, 08:01 AM Holy mackerel, thats impressive!!
Although, the people sitting right at the top of the third tier might feel a bit boxed in with the roof sloping diwn like that
haggiesm November 12th, 2008, 09:30 AM great progress on the roof columns:banana:
Mo Rush November 12th, 2008, 01:19 PM Holy mackerel, thats impressive!!
Although, the people sitting right at the top of the third tier might feel a bit boxed in with the roof sloping diwn like that
thats strangely enough the intention. to direct attention towards the field of play.
Lutzno November 12th, 2008, 02:24 PM the wind mustve stopped major contruction work, especially sompression ring, in th last few days.
Lydon November 12th, 2008, 02:26 PM This wind has been very hectic indeed. Seems like everything wants to blow away.
lukus November 12th, 2008, 02:49 PM The wavy motion of the top tier is nearly complete!
annman November 12th, 2008, 07:09 PM This wind has been very hectic indeed. Seems like everything wants to blow away.
This bloody Black Southeaster is flooding our farm, breaking our plants and flooding our river again... Wake me up, I'm dreaming it's June! :nuts:
Bevski November 12th, 2008, 08:03 PM thats strangely enough the intention. to direct attention towards the field of play.
Makes sense to me, it does give the stadium a slim elegant feel looking from the outside which is great!
Mo Rush November 12th, 2008, 11:14 PM and in other news, SAIL, the largest sports management company in RSA, the operator for Green Point stadium owns a quarter of WP rugby...
haggiesm November 13th, 2008, 07:01 AM and in other news, SAIL, the largest sports management company in RSA, the operator for Green Point stadium owns a quarter of WP rugby...
interesting... since when?
Mo Rush November 13th, 2008, 11:22 AM interesting... since when?
since always. they also own half the blue bulls...the other half of the consortium, stade de france, manage 5 stadia across the world.
we're pretty darn lucky if we get them to operate our stadium and urban park. seems like negotiations will be complete next month!!!
haggiesm November 13th, 2008, 12:10 PM indeed.
Lutzno November 13th, 2008, 04:30 PM http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/Pages/StadiumConstructionProgress14.aspx
You guys are going to love these new official photos. They've come up with a big batch this time =D
Mo Rush November 13th, 2008, 04:43 PM http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/Pages/StadiumConstructionProgress14.aspx
You guys are going to love these new official photos. They've come up with a big batch this time =D
add them all here!
Mo Rush November 13th, 2008, 04:51 PM not sure if anybody feels the same way, and absolutely no disrespect to any other stadia, but Green Point, ignoring the location has a certain X-factor to it. I don't know what it is, I'm pretty unbiased and frank when it comes to the architecture of stadia but this one is really something else. All the details really make sense.
RavenX November 13th, 2008, 04:57 PM Images courtesy of the City of Cape Town ~ http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/Pages/default.aspx
The following images were taken by City of Cape Town, & resides at & is the property of the City of Cape Town.
Copyright of the City of Cape Town - © City of Cape Town 2008. All rights are reserved.
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_a.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_b.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_c.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_d.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_e.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_f.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_g.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_5_08_h.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_a.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_b.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_c.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_d.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_e.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_f.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_g.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_h.jpg
RavenX November 13th, 2008, 05:33 PM not sure if anybody feels the same way, and absolutely no disrespect to any other stadia, but Green Point, ignoring the location has a certain X-factor to it. I don't know what it is, I'm pretty unbiased and frank when it comes to the architecture of stadia but this one is really something else. All the details really make sense.
Unbiased opinion here as well, she does, most certainly rival Moses Mabhida Stadium, in her design, as well as being totally unique in her look.
It does have a certain je-ne-sais-quoi to it.
One thing I'd like to mention that will only be experienced by those that sit on the upper tier, is that your view of the field will feel very wide screen cinematic, due to the line of the roof overhead, a totally unique & awesome experience I believe.
Cheers
RavenX
Lutzno November 13th, 2008, 05:39 PM i have to agree with you Mo and Raven, i also, however, for some reason, am incredibly attatched to the Peter Mokaba Stadium. I dont really know why, but i feel its something special. and also Mo, there is a terrible thing in this country, and its called a bandwidth cap. worst thing ever, i prey that by 2010, the international demand will mean no cap for the general public, and then i can actually post the pictures and not just the link!
wobdog November 14th, 2008, 07:31 AM i have to agree with you Mo and Raven, i also, however, for some reason, am incredibly attatched to the Peter Mokaba Stadium. I dont really know why, but i feel its something special. and also Mo, there is a terrible thing in this country, and its called a bandwidth cap. worst thing ever, i prey that by 2010, the international demand will mean no cap for the general public, and then i can actually post the pictures and not just the link!
Seacom lands on 17 June 2009 - don't worry about bandwidth caps!
Durbsboi November 14th, 2008, 07:53 AM Ini loh?
http://i35.************/653g5g.jpg
Hunterdry November 14th, 2008, 07:59 AM Seacom lands on 17 June 2009 - don't worry about bandwidth caps!
Indeed i believe SA bandwidth will more 10x faster. so you can view this in matter of second.
Lydon November 14th, 2008, 12:45 PM Seacom lands on 17 June 2009 - don't worry about bandwidth caps!
Seacom may land then, and they'll be able to provide much cheaper bandwidth, but remember that prices aren't going to fall overnight. You can be sure as hell that if our wonderful government has anything to say they're going to try and regulate prices as a sudden drop in prices would mean the end of their precious Telkom.
hsark November 14th, 2008, 01:03 PM well prices are starting to go down thanks to neotel and the fact that ivy and her friends lost that case last month
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 01:42 PM Green Point stadium is going to be our number one stadium - Managing Director of SBP
By Clayton Barnes
Elegant and respectful to its surrounding beauty. That's how award-winning structural engineer Knut Goeppert on Thursday described what Cape Town's multimillion-rand 2010 World Cup stadium will be once completed.
Goeppert, managing director of the structural engineering company Schlaich Bergermann and Partner, is responsible for the spokewheel-shaped stadium roof.
Goeppert said the Green Point stadium was the only stadium in the country that was complemented by internationally renowned landmarks.
"The most challenging aspect of deciding on a roof design for Cape Town was the site and location," said Goeppert. "All the other stadiums in the country were away from the city and on flat land, but in Cape Town we had a challenge. The stadium was in the middle of the city and we had a huge mountain in the background."
Goeppert said in the end, he and his team decided on the spoke-wheel structure.
"This shape has been used before, but it will be elegant in Cape Town because of the location," he said. "I'm confident that Green Point stadium is going to be our number one stadium. A true winner."
Goeppert added that Green Point stadium was set to become one of the most recognised stadiums in Africa after the 2010 World Cup.
Goeppert is an award winning structural engineer. He has been involved in building 15 World Cup stadiums across the world.
"Different from many recent large-scale stadiums, the 2010 Green Point stadium will be an elegant and sustainable solution, structurally sound and unique.
"The 36 000m2 roof is curved to give the stadium a flowing look from every perspective. It will be translucent to take full advantage of natural light."
Because of Cape Town's notorious south-easter, the roof will be weighted down using 3 500 tons of steel and 1 000 tons of glass. Construction of the roof, which started in September, will take almost a year.
http://www.animago.com/animago/2007/animago/high/0777.jpg
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM double post
Hunterdry November 14th, 2008, 02:08 PM nice one mo :). i hope MM stadium gonna be 1.
haggiesm November 14th, 2008, 02:25 PM "Goeppert added that Green Point stadium was set to become one of the most recognised stadiums in Africa after the 2010 World Cup."
that's a given. it gonna be one of the most recognisable stadiums in the world.
Lydon November 14th, 2008, 02:50 PM well prices are starting to go down thanks to neotel and the fact that ivy and her friends lost that case last month
Definitely, but I'm just saying that it's not going to suddenly happen overnight. It's going to take time. Hopefully not much!
haggiesm November 14th, 2008, 02:53 PM http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_a.jpg
what's this?
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 03:17 PM http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_4_08_a.jpg
what's this?
city of cape town substation, cooling towers and electrical plant room.
haggiesm November 14th, 2008, 03:18 PM aaaaah.
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 03:23 PM aaaaah.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Coolingtowers.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/SouthAfrica003.jpg
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 03:38 PM more interesting of course is the fact that the stadium has a
1. FIFA Mascot Dressing and Waiting Room
2. Corpse in waiting room
3. Ball Boy Dressing Room
tadpolefarm November 14th, 2008, 04:36 PM more interesting of course is the fact that the stadium has a
1. FIFA Mascot Dressing and Waiting Room
2. Corpse in waiting room
3. Ball Boy Dressing Room
1 and 3 are FIFA requirement. 2 must be CT funny
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/organisation/documents/
Fifa downloads
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 04:46 PM 1 and 3 are FIFA requirement. 2 must be CT funny
of course they are requirements. its just funny to see. a whole 6 by 4 m room for the Mascot. Or as they say on SABC 1 MUS-SCOTT
Mo Rush November 14th, 2008, 05:09 PM Major site with Liebherr Tower Cranes
The new construction project at the Green Point Stadium in Cape Town for the 2010 Football World Cup at present has a total of 19 Liebherr top-slewing cranes in operation.
In summer 2007 Liebherr-Werk Biberach GmbH supplied twelve brand-new tower cranes for the Green Point Stadium project in Cape Town, South Africa. The delivery included eight top-slewing cranes of types 200 EC H 10 and 280 EC H 12 Litronic, as well as four 200 EC B 10 Litronic Flat-Top cranes.
With an investment volume of 285 million €, the old Green Point Stadium, which only had capacity for 18,000 spectators, is being replaced by an entirely new structure in preparation for the 2010 Football World Cup. The overall project also includes improvements to the stadium infrastructure, such as additional parking space, catering areas, VIP sections, and events offices. Green Point Stadium is located in the famous Victoria and Alfred Waterfront district, in a spacious and attractive park. Completion of the conversion and new construction project is scheduled for November 2009.
Liebherr-Werk Biberach GmbH frequently feature in projects of this scale not only as crane suppliers but also as service providers for the engagement project planning of the installed crane park. Liebherr were already providing the know-how gathered over the decades for the 2006 World Cup, skills gained from the project planning of extremely difficult crane operations in numerous stadium construction situations, among others the Allianz-Arena in Munich.
For the construction of the Green Point Stadium in Cape Town, Liebherr-Werk Biberach GmbH were again able to offer an economical and complete solution. The equipping and positioning of the twelve new cranes being used in the construction of the stadium was planned as a project in Biberach and the statics carefully calculated. This included the selection of the cranes as well as the ideal individual configuration of each individual equipment unit, with the aim of creating a technically co-ordinated and economically optimised total crane park.
Mo Rush November 16th, 2008, 04:36 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/3035123612_3296d98e09_b.jpg
Cape Town Guy November 16th, 2008, 05:14 PM Green Point, if you look here, (http://www.animago.com/animago/2007/animago/high/0777.jpg) really reminds me of Arsenal's stadium, with that wave effect:
http://chasseurdestades.com/photos/Arsenalengland1.jpg
Very sexy :)
Mo Rush November 16th, 2008, 05:20 PM Green Point, if you look here, (http://www.animago.com/animago/2007/animago/high/0777.jpg) really reminds me of Arsenal's stadium, with that wave effect:
http://chasseurdestades.com/photos/Arsenalengland1.jpg
Very sexy :)
It is nice, but its not a design feature. Its a necessary shape to achieve the best sight lines in a compact and feasible way. No point in paying R1500 to watch a world cup match you can't really see.
Green Point combines Emirate, Allianz and Berlin's Olympiastadion with the facade material similar to the the Birds Nest inner roof and facade membrane.
Cape Town Guy November 16th, 2008, 05:41 PM Makes a lot of sense. Put most people in the best areas. Learn something new every day.
Lutzno November 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM i thought that the wave effect at the emirates was to leave the gaps in the corners to allow for wind flow to the pitch and more light, so the field wouldnt become dead or shitty, like at old trafford, the sight lines also makes sense though.
tadpolefarm November 16th, 2008, 05:52 PM Aresenal/Emirates site had a tough total height restriction. This pushed the roof trusses down and required the roof to slope inwards. The gutters are on the inside rim. The rainwater pipes have to run uphill from there. Downpipes at the corner flags are a no-no! After the flow has been started artificially the siphon effect takes over and no problem, water flows uphil. A similar problem occurs at Dortmund.
Unlike Greenpoint the Aresenal stands are rectangular. The outer facade is an ellipse so the top of the ellipse is the very pleasing wave and more pronounced because of the rectangle.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/arsenal.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/gutter.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/outside.jpg
Dortmund upper tier. Notice the rainwater pipes running uphill. Also notice the very steep terraces. So steep railings are required and in this case built into each seat and with its very tight bowl and reverse roof it has the nickname the volcano. Greenpoint will not be this steep.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/dortmund-1.jpg
tadpolefarm November 16th, 2008, 06:40 PM Arsenal are very proud of their pitch and win awards for it. Their grounds staff has a vital tool . The lights are by a Dutch company and are rolled out during the notorious London sunless days. The pitch boss maintain he could grow a perfect pitch indoors with these lights and the correct ventilation.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/turf.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/lights.jpg
Lutzno November 16th, 2008, 07:35 PM apparetnlly thay cost an absolute fortune.
tadpolefarm November 16th, 2008, 07:53 PM The opposing curves of Greenpoint compression ring and bowl rim are going to make a stunning stadium. GMP Architects have been perfecting on this in past stadiums. Their Foshan stadium has the same swooping curve. Unlike the ellipse of Greenpoint Foshan has perfectly circular compression ring.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/foshan-1.jpg
Notice the PE seat pattern and colour.
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/foshan-2.jpg
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/foshan-3.jpg
Mo Rush November 16th, 2008, 08:07 PM Makes a lot of sense. Put most people in the best areas. Learn something new every day.
Green Point stadium fits nicely into the optimal geometry of a football stadium to achieve the best sightlines.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/sightlines.jpg
lukus November 17th, 2008, 04:05 PM http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/foshan-3.jpg
Wow!!!!
Mo Rush November 17th, 2008, 05:43 PM http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/CTsection.jpg
tad ..do you have a seating plan please?
christos-greece November 17th, 2008, 07:50 PM http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/foshan-3.jpg
Awesome pic
Lutzno November 17th, 2008, 09:11 PM The new Green Point Stadium is not only altering the city’s skyline and providing Cape Town with a valuable new asset - it is also creating thousands of new jobs, with a positive spin-off for the city’s economy.
According to a special report prepared for Council, 2,143 on-site jobs have been created to construct the stadium, and 1,179 artisans have received training from the contractors. This will enable them to find jobs easily once construction is complete.
This has had a significant impact on skills creation, reducing unemployment, and boosting the local economy.
The stadium, which will host eight games during the 2010 FIFA World Cup™, including a semi-final, is on track for completion in December 2009.
The contractor, a joint venture between Murray & Roberts and WBHO, currently has 1,271 staff and 872 contractors employed on site.
Of these, 99% are local residents, 88% are black, and 35% are under 35 years of age. Only four percent are women.
There is also significant BEE and SMME involvement - 57% of procurement has been sourced from Black Economic Empowered (BEE) companies, and 65% from Small, Micro & Medium Enterprises. Ninety percent of the procurement is from suppliers within the municipal area.
As part of its overall broad-based BEE programme, the contractor has established an on-site training centre to develop the skills and abilities of all the employees not only to enhance their performance, but also to assist in advancing their careers within the industry.
This includes the training and qualification of tradesmen as steelfixers, shutterhands, scaffold erectors, concrete hands, bricklayers, plasterers, crane operators and health & safety officers. There is also ABET (Adult Basic Education Training); computer skills training; construction supervisor training and management development and training.
Programmes are also in place for the training of undergraduates and graduates in relevant construction related qualifications, such as civils and building.
All the training is accredited to the relevant SETAs, or sector education and training authorities.
For Similo Baba, who works as a supervisor at the construction site, this is a dream job. “When I’m asleep I’m still thinking of the bricks and the concrete,” he jokes.
Although he’s been in the industry for over 30 years, he has received additional training for this project, and says it’s good to see lots of young people being trained. “We are all very glad to have these jobs, it’s good for our families,” he says.
“It’s so exciting to be part of this, I’m really proud of the stadium, and am looking forward to 2010. I want to see Zidane playing here,” he enthuses.
An added incentive for the construction workers is that they will each receive two free World Cup tickets, courtesy of FIFA.
Local charities have also benefited from the construction, with the contractor making monetary donations as a result of the contract. Shawco, Dinaledi Adopt-a-School, Carehaven and the Sports Trust are beneficiaries.
Mo Rush November 18th, 2008, 04:00 AM oi.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3030717338_fed7eda0f5_o.jpg
haggiesm November 18th, 2008, 10:59 AM very nice. compression ring is coming along.
Mo Rush November 20th, 2008, 04:55 AM Source: flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/warrenski/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/3044522410_b4712ef8d1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/3044520532_368134069b_b.jpg
lukus November 20th, 2008, 07:51 AM The wavy motion of upper tier and compression ring is very apparent now
haggiesm November 20th, 2008, 08:07 AM amazing pics - stunning.
shacky November 20th, 2008, 12:08 PM yeah looks great - its a pity it wont look like that after the world cup..same with MM :ohno:
Mo Rush November 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM yeah looks great - its a pity it wont look like that after the world cup..same with MM :ohno:
only the grand stand seats will be removed, from about the 5th row onwards, the rest of the "wave" remains in place.
haggiesm November 20th, 2008, 12:49 PM kewl. not too much of a change then.
Dames November 20th, 2008, 07:49 PM Its hard to believe that those compression ring beams are the only things connecting the stadium to that heavy roof.
Mo Rush November 20th, 2008, 11:32 PM apparently gvt is adding another R1.4 billion for world cup stadia! :)
DennisRodman97 November 21st, 2008, 03:08 AM fuk u Mo...for not wishing me happy bday...
Mo Rush November 21st, 2008, 05:09 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/3047110632_36c583bc87_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/3047111638_d85e127d94_o.jpg
Durbsboi November 21st, 2008, 07:08 AM ^^They have too, seeing that Durbs completed their's ages ago =P
haggiesm November 21st, 2008, 07:35 AM WOW :applause: roughly half way i'd say
Mo Rush November 21st, 2008, 11:36 AM ^^They have too, seeing that Durbs completed their's ages ago =P
you mean 11 days ago....
even though construction started 6 months before green point.
Durbsboi November 21st, 2008, 11:49 AM Well we had too, seeing the size of our stadium is bigger than the bird nest ;)
Lutzno November 21st, 2008, 11:50 AM why is the circle taking so long :( looks like nothings happened in like a month! :(
Mo Rush November 21st, 2008, 11:53 AM Well we had too, seeing the size of our stadium is bigger than the bird nest ;)
you wish.
Mo Rush November 21st, 2008, 11:54 AM why is the circle taking so long :( looks like nothings happened in like a month! :(
dunno. not sure what they doing there! not like they have any interruptions.
Durbsboi November 21st, 2008, 12:11 PM you wish.
size not capacity
Hunterdry November 21st, 2008, 12:32 PM Well we had too, seeing the size of our stadium is bigger than the bird nest ;)
really? i tho Bird nest is bigger. maybe it my eye or the picture? what the compare size of GP & Bird nest?
haggiesm November 21st, 2008, 01:09 PM According to all the info I've read the bird's nest capacity is around 91,000. do you mean durbs would be be bigger should you get the olympics, when they're planning extra seating?
Sand-Shark November 22nd, 2008, 07:25 PM Stadium looking great. Looks just like MM minus the arch. ;)
annman November 22nd, 2008, 07:39 PM ^^ Or looks just like Soccer City minus the calabash! :lol:
Mo Rush November 22nd, 2008, 07:49 PM Stadium looking great. Looks just like MM minus the arch. ;)
M&M is a modified version of a failed GMP competition entry for the St. Petersburg stadium.
Sand-Shark November 23rd, 2008, 02:35 AM M&M is a modified version of a failed GMP competition entry for the St. Petersburg stadium.
Well then, this looks like a modified version of a failed GMP competition entry for the St. Petersburg stadium (minus the arch) :lol:
annman November 23rd, 2008, 07:46 AM ^^Oy Vey!
lukus November 23rd, 2008, 03:55 PM I think western province rugby would be dead stupid not to move into this stadium. It puts newlands to shame
Lutzno November 23rd, 2008, 05:54 PM i think the most important question has still not been answered. where are the seating categories in terms of green point stadium? is cat. 4 strictly corner upper tier? is cat 3 strictly behind the goal? whats it gonna be like?
Mo Rush November 24th, 2008, 11:58 AM Well then, this looks like a modified version of a failed GMP competition entry for the St. Petersburg stadium (minus the arch) :lol:
Luckily I've spoken to the architect twice, who is passionate about Green Point beyond words. Thats one of the reasons he is based in Cape Town, keeping an eye on every aspect of the stadium. So if there is any "rip off"....
tadpolefarm November 24th, 2008, 05:31 PM i think the most important question has still not been answered. where are the seating categories in terms of green point stadium? is cat. 4 strictly corner upper tier? is cat 3 strictly behind the goal? whats it gonna be like?
Ticket categories. Cat 4 is for SA tickets
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/ticketclasses.jpg
Lutzno November 24th, 2008, 06:03 PM thats not greenpoint stadium?
Lutzno November 24th, 2008, 06:06 PM New Official Stadium Pics:
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/Pages/StadiumConstructionProgress15.aspx
Mo Rush November 24th, 2008, 06:30 PM these pics are similar to the renders:
http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_capetown_08.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_19_08_a.jpg
http://www.macina.com/typo3temp/pics/gmp_stadion_capetown_03.jpg
http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/2010/gallery/PublishingImages/Stadium%20construction/Nov_19_08_c.jpg
haggiesm November 24th, 2008, 07:10 PM that stadium with zones looks like royal bafokeng.
tadpolefarm November 24th, 2008, 08:36 PM thats not greenpoint stadium?
No it is not Cape Town, it is one of the WC 2006 stadiums as example of ticket categories that will apply for 2010.
Mo Rush November 25th, 2008, 01:15 AM Luckily I've spoken to the architect twice, who is passionate about Green Point beyond words. Thats one of the reasons he is based in Cape Town, keeping an eye on every aspect of the stadium. So if there is any "rip off"....
The stadium architect, Robert Hormes from GMP,takes you on a tour.
Describing him as being passionate about Green Point stadium would be an understatement.
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Vrystaat November 25th, 2008, 06:23 PM This is a fantastic forum with lively discussion. You guys are very well informed and passionate. I am glad I discovered this. Great!!
The digram below is a comparison of seating arrangements of Soccer City, Durban, PE and Cape Town are displayed. The red lines are Cape Town superimposed on the other 3. Seeing as Rugby will be the most well attended game in these stadiums post 2010 the green lines for the Rugby pitch are included. Rugby rules!!
Hopelik is daar n bietjie Afrikaans hier. Duban se uitleg pla my. Die sitplekke gaan te ver van die game af wees.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/3051982901_5d70bfa2ec.jpg?v=0
Bevski November 25th, 2008, 06:32 PM Very interesting Vrystaat, thanks for sharing.
I'm amazed at how compact Soccer City is!
Vrystaat November 25th, 2008, 06:38 PM Soccer City is compact especially considering it holds a lot more spectators than the others. I dont know why the goal ends of PE are so far from the game?!.. It is almost half the size of Soccer City
annman November 25th, 2008, 07:02 PM Welkom Vrystaat. Daar is 'n hele paar Afrikaansprekendes hierso, maar ons hou normaalweg by Engels om al die buitelanders en ander-taliges in RSA te akommideer. But welcome and we all look forward to your contributions.
That diagram you posted is really cool. The reason MM Stadium in Durbs is so far from the pitch is to accommodate an athletics track.
Vrystaat November 25th, 2008, 08:09 PM Ok, I will stay English.
Yes Durban has a running track so they can be in the running for 2020. What a crazy idea. If Cape Town couldn't win the rights to the Olympics with Mandela at the height of his buzz, I cant see Durban's ever getting it. ..
annman November 25th, 2008, 08:19 PM I think Durban has potential, but not until it's inner-city is up to scratch at least to Cape Town's level and their public transit is also the least effective in the country (Jo'burg - ReaVaya/Gautrain; CT - BRT System/MetroRail upgrades). Their weather is great (but too humid from Nov-Mar), but much needs to be done to Durban in general to make an Olympic dream viable. Also post-Beijing, hosting the Olympics may be much more effort than its worth :).
I wish them the best, but in seems unrealistic for the next 20 years or so. Ct wasn't ever really ready for the 2000 Games.
Vrystaat November 25th, 2008, 08:37 PM Ticket categories. Cat 4 is for SA tickets
http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq159/tadpolefarm/ticketclasses.jpg
This is seating plan for Rustenberg Royal Bafokeng.
Ron2K November 25th, 2008, 08:54 PM ... and their public transit is also the least effective in the country (Jo'burg - ReaVaya/Gautrain; CT - BRT System/MetroRail upgrades).
Remant Alton. 'Nuff said. :bash:
Mo Rush November 25th, 2008, 09:58 PM Ct wasn't ever really ready for the 2000 Games.
The Cape Town 2004 bid plan was exceptional if not a miracle and feasible. It even surprised the IOC.
Also, before commenting about the potential quality of a possible bid, please refer to the IOC technical evaluation criteria at www.olympic.org which ranges from transport to environment to revenue potential to venues.
By 2012 Cape Town should have about 22 of the 32 venues required to host the Games.
Full breakdown of existing venues on request.
Mo Rush November 25th, 2008, 10:20 PM Green Point Stadium operator to be finalized this week!!!
By Lindsay Dentlinger
The city of Cape Town's bid adjudication committee on Monday failed to finalise a decision it took some time ago to award a 30-year operating lease for the Green Point Stadium and adjacent urban park, having not been given enough time to consider two reports placed before it.
Executive Director of Service Delivery Integration Mike Marsden told the committee that, as a "critical issue" for the city, it was working on a tight deadline and wanted to finalise the operating agreement and the lease agreement in the next two days.
In August, the bid adjudication committee named a joint venture by rugby great Morne du Plessis's sports marketing company Sail, and Stade de France, owner of a stadium in Paris, France, the preferred bidder to manage the stadium during the World Cup and for up to 30 years afterwards.
Since then the consortium and the city have been locked in negotiations with the view to finalising the contract before the end of October.
The city had advertised for a stadium operator, but non-compliant bids forced it to revise the tender specifications and the process of award.
Director of supply chain management Leonard Shnaps said on Monday that documentation related to the preferred bid was received by his office too late on Friday afternoon for it to be distributed to the committee.
Chairperson of the bid adjudication committee Wouter Loots said the committee would try to schedule an extraordinary meeting in the next two days to consider the matter.
The Sail-Stade de France consortium beat another consortium, exhibition and events group Thebe and Intelligent Venue Solutions, whose tender remains open until December 31, 2008, to be the preferred bidder.
The Sail-Stade de France bid has at least two letters of support from major premier league soccer clubs Ajax and Santos to host games at the new stadium.
The consortium has made requests to the city to fit the stadium with a disaster-management control room at a cost of R5-million, a pitch protection system to allow concerts to be staged on the field at a cost of R7,6m and two replay screens at a cost of R12m.
Sail owns equity stakes in WP Rugby, Blue Bulls and Saracens and it established the Vodacom Challenge.
Mo Rush November 25th, 2008, 11:05 PM http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/83803114.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193003A50471BAAE0D5F5BB134CE99120CAE30A760B0D811297
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/83803107.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193003A50471BAAE0D527B882E9C602C65FE30A760B0D811297
Mo Rush November 26th, 2008, 08:20 AM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/3059166391_f889241434_b.jpg
Mo Rush November 26th, 2008, 11:58 AM CONSCIOUS OF ITS CONTEXT
Through careful urban design, the stadium and common at Green Point will enrich Cape Town’s cityscape.
So often, when it comes to the design of a sports stadium, the focus is solely on the iconic and impressive structure itself. Although stadiums are only used intermittently for big events, the surrounding communities have to live with the massive monoliths towering above their neighbourhoods.
However, in the case of Green Point, the urban design team is going out of its way to ensure the stadium is revealed in layers of discovery. The stadium is carefully positioned on Green Point Common; off-centre so as not to dominate the view of the ocean when approaching from the city.
The designers are also cognisant of the fact that most Capetonians will never see the photogenic stadium from the air, except on TV screens, during the 2010 FIFA World Cup. So the emphasis is on a layered and varied experience with the stadium as the crescendo of an extended approach that passes through a series of intermediary spaces between city and stadium.
The stadium is positioned on top of a podium, which responds to the historic fabric of the city and the stadium itself. It acts as a scaling device; mediating between the bold stadium and the fine-grained surrounding urban fabric. Vertical walls are extended in defined positions to act as public space-framing devices and to direct pedestrians towards the three grand stairways onto the podium.
Although the stadium is far from complete, and construction work on the surrounding urban precinct and park is only about to begin, Urban Green File believes the designers of the Green Point stadium already qualify for an “inspiration award”.
The urban design team comprises Comrie Wilkinson Architects & Urban Designers, as lead consultant, working with Jakupa Architects & Urban Designers and OvP Landscape Architects.
The stadium itself is being designed by Gerkan, Marg & Partners (gmp) in joint venture with local partners (Comrie Wilkinson, Jakupa, Munnik Visser and Paragon; also jointly known as Point Architects, led by Louis Karol Architects).
Lutzno November 26th, 2008, 03:29 PM Mo, what happens after the completion of the compression ring?
Die Kapenaar November 26th, 2008, 08:03 PM 2010 stadium to be managed for R110 million
Cape Argus
2008-11-26 12:00:01 Edition 2
The City of Cape Town today awarded a contract worth R110.5 million, excluding VAT, for the management of the 2010 Green Point Stadium between January next year ... [ Full Story... ]
haggiesm November 26th, 2008, 08:35 PM Mo, what happens after the completion of the compression ring?
my guess would be the facade...?
Die Kapenaar November 26th, 2008, 11:35 PM http://www.cbn.co.za/images/cbn_logo.jpg
27 Nov 2008 : Green Point Operator Appointed
The City of Cape Town’s Bid Adjudication Committee approved the award of the service contractor for the operation of the new Green Point stadium to the consortium of Stade de France and South Africa’s SAIL Group. The legal entity formed by the consortium is Business Venture Investments 1317 (Proprietary) Limited.
The award includes for the consortium to be involved with the management of the Green Point stadium from January 2009 to help ensure the successful hosting of eight World Cup matches. The City will pay the consortium to manage the stadium up to and during World Cup 2010 as a 68 000 seater stadium.
Thereafter the consortium will lease the stadium from the City for a period of not less than ten and not more than thirty years with review periods at certain points. The City will receive 30% of Earnings before Tax (inclusive of municipal rates) on a fixed percentage basis. Thus, if the stadium becomes very successful, the City’s returns rise significantly. The approval of the lease of the stadium resides with Council and will be considered on 3 December 2008.
After 2010, the stadium will be reduced to a 55 000 seater. The stadium can cater for rugby, soccer and other sport events, music concerts, major events and spectaculars. It will have, amongst others, corporate hospitality suites, medical, training, conferencing and banqueting facilities. The consortium will operate the stadium as well as manage and maintain the defined areas of the surrounding urban park and sport precinct on the 85 hectare Green Point Common from stadium revenue.
Mike Marsden, Executive Director of Service Delivery Integration of the City of Cape Town, said: “The City is very pleased that this comprehensive and detailed negotiating process has come to fruition. Cape Town is gaining a world-class, purpose-built stadium in arguably the most beautiful setting in the world. It is getting a team with an international and local track record of experience and success to maximize the value, revenue and viability/sustainability of its stadium.
“Cape Town residents and visitors are getting a world-class facility which will host prime sports matches and spectacular events as well as gaining an upgraded sport and recreation precinct. This is very good news for Cape Town,” said Marsden.
The in principle agreement provides for a detailed contract to be signed between the parties which will describe the roles and responsibilities of the City and the operator in terms of aspects such as maintenance, parking, informal trading, insurance for eventualities and sureties. The operator has offered sureties totaling R10 million.
Stade de France is a successful and profitable 80 000 seater multi-purpose stadium in Paris, France that hosted the 1998 FIFA World Cup™ and the Rugby World Cup in 2007. SAIL is one of the largest sport marketing companies in South Africa.
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 03:45 AM http://www.cbn.co.za/images/cbn_logo.jpg
27 Nov 2008 : Green Point Operator Appointed
The City of Cape Town’s Bid Adjudication Committee approved the award of the service contractor for the operation of the new Green Point stadium to the consortium of Stade de France and South Africa’s SAIL Group. The legal entity formed by the consortium is Business Venture Investments 1317 (Proprietary) Limited.
The award includes for the consortium to be involved with the management of the Green Point stadium from January 2009 to help ensure the successful hosting of eight World Cup matches. The City will pay the consortium to manage the stadium up to and during World Cup 2010 as a 68 000 seater stadium.
Thereafter the consortium will lease the stadium from the City for a period of not less than ten and not more than thirty years with review periods at certain points. The City will receive 30% of Earnings before Tax (inclusive of municipal rates) on a fixed percentage basis. Thus, if the stadium becomes very successful, the City’s returns rise significantly. The approval of the lease of the stadium resides with Council and will be considered on 3 December 2008.
After 2010, the stadium will be reduced to a 55 000 seater. The stadium can cater for rugby, soccer and other sport events, music concerts, major events and spectaculars. It will have, amongst others, corporate hospitality suites, medical, training, conferencing and banqueting facilities. The consortium will operate the stadium as well as manage and maintain the defined areas of the surrounding urban park and sport precinct on the 85 hectare Green Point Common from stadium revenue.
Mike Marsden, Executive Director of Service Delivery Integration of the City of Cape Town, said: “The City is very pleased that this comprehensive and detailed negotiating process has come to fruition. Cape Town is gaining a world-class, purpose-built stadium in arguably the most beautiful setting in the world. It is getting a team with an international and local track record of experience and success to maximize the value, revenue and viability/sustainability of its stadium.
“Cape Town residents and visitors are getting a world-class facility which will host prime sports matches and spectacular events as well as gaining an upgraded sport and recreation precinct. This is very good news for Cape Town,” said Marsden.
The in principle agreement provides for a detailed contract to be signed between the parties which will describe the roles and responsibilities of the City and the operator in terms of aspects such as maintenance, parking, informal trading, insurance for eventualities and sureties. The operator has offered sureties totaling R10 million.
Stade de France is a successful and profitable 80 000 seater multi-purpose stadium in Paris, France that hosted the 1998 FIFA World Cup™ and the Rugby World Cup in 2007. SAIL is one of the largest sport marketing companies in South Africa.
That price is absolutely correct,given that the city will earn some of their profits and was asked to install a pitch protection system for concerts, video screens and a disaster control room.
This is very very good news.
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 03:56 AM Source: flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96408836@N00/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/3061058951_847801c38a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/3061059399_911784236c_o.jpg
Durbsboi November 27th, 2008, 07:40 AM looking good Mo!
haggiesm November 27th, 2008, 08:59 AM sweetnes!!! so the white panels are going up, but what are the blue clamps on the roof trusses for?
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 09:36 AM sweetnes!!! so the white panels are going up, but what are the blue clamps on the roof trusses for?
those panels arent the facade. the facade is installed at the end.
lukus November 27th, 2008, 09:55 AM I would assume the roof trusses will be attached onto the compression ring once it is complete, creating the spokes of the bicycle wheel
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 11:04 AM I would assume the roof trusses will be attached onto the compression ring once it is complete, creating the spokes of the bicycle wheel
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/rooftruss.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/roofshape.jpg
haggiesm November 27th, 2008, 03:04 PM those panels arent the facade. the facade is installed at the end.
aaah. so what are blue gadgets for?
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 04:22 PM aaah. so what are blue gadgets for?
prob to use during the roof construction.
Dames November 27th, 2008, 04:35 PM What are the metal bars between the columns for? They seem to follow the contour of the seating stands.
Mo Rush November 27th, 2008, 04:51 PM What are the metal bars between the columns for? They seem to follow the contour of the seating stands.
i dont know
Mo Rush November 28th, 2008, 07:12 AM Source: flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96408836@N00/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/3064156976_9ec8b80127_o.jpg
Mo Rush November 28th, 2008, 08:33 AM Terry February: Green Point Stadium Collection
The Luminous Landmark
18 October 2008
moved to SSC online gallery (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=28655332#post28655332)
see Shebeen
haggiesm November 28th, 2008, 08:46 AM WOW:applause:
Mo Rush November 28th, 2008, 01:49 PM I've just read through some of the details of the new stadium operator bid i.e. Stade de France/SAIL and it looks good.
The city will form a new partnership in early 2009 with the operator to bid for events and to help attracts events to the stadium. The Chief Technical manager of the Stade de France consortium would also act as the General Manager of Green Point Stadium for the first two years.
In the event that the 2010 FIFA World Cup does not take place in South Africa, the operator will continue to manage the stadium and urban park.
annman November 28th, 2008, 01:58 PM In the event that the 2010 FIFA World Cup does not take place in South Africa, the operator will continue to manage the stadium and urban park.
^^ When it snows in Harare!
Mo Rush November 28th, 2008, 02:11 PM ^^ When it snows in Harare!
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/1-17.jpg
haggiesm November 28th, 2008, 02:43 PM ^^ When it snows in Harare!
well said :lol:
annman November 29th, 2008, 08:51 PM http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc40/andresannman/100_3707.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc40/andresannman/100_3708.jpg
Green Point Stadium from the N1/N2 approach into the CBD...
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc40/andresannman/100_3696.jpg
DennisRodman97 November 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM you guys are building quality stadiums with less price.....the cowboys here just spent 1 billion on a stadium thats not all that.
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