Projects | Wheel Of Perth & Burswood Gondola | Observation Decks

[chrisaus]

when will the new ferris wheel be up?

[jackso]

I think i heard somewhere it will be november...(?)

[docker]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/76/image003yh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BartBart]

Why did the wheel source change from getting one that had been used in the eastern states to one from the manufacturer?

[thesmallprint]

Apparently it will be 50m in height, to give you an idea the bell tower is about 80m. Should be alright, I think it's a good idea. They should have done it like the Singapore one though, 170m!! :banana::banana:

Source: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/perth-to-get-giant-ferris-wheel-by-december-20081023-56zw.html

Perth to get giant Ferris wheel by December

* October 23, 2008 - 9:37AM

A supersized Ferris wheel will rise on the Swan River foreshore next to Barrack Square by the end of the year, its Birmingham-based builder says.

"If you can imagine a traditional Ferris wheel and supersize it, basically the one that we're bringing to Perth is about 50 metres in height," World Tourist Attractions Australia director Nigel Ward told Radio 6PR's morning program today.

"(It) has fully enclosed gondolas providing fantastic views out over the Perth city and out over your river frontage there from your foreshore.

"It is a very graceful machine."

Mr Ward said the giant wheel would have 36 air-conditioned glass gondolas, set at the end of 18 spokes.

The European-designed machine will be shipped from Zurich and arrive in mid-November.

Once it has passed customs and is on-site beside the Swan River, the wheel will only take five days to erect on its 25m x 25m concrete platform.

Mr Ward said he hoped the wheel would be up and running by early December.

He said the wheel would operate between 10am and 10pm seven days a week.

He foreshadowed the need for longer night time operations on Friday and Saturday evenings.

"It is really quite spectacular looking out over the city at night when it is all floodlit and lit up," Mr Ward said.

Mr Ward said an adult ticket would cost $15, and a child's ride will cost $7 or $8.

A special VIP gondola will offer well-healed wheelers champagne, leather upholstery and a plasma TV screen.

His company has a 12-month approval to operate the wheel, with another 12 month option if Perth City Council is happy with its performance.

The company operates six similar wheels in England, one in Brisbane, one in Belfast and is building one in Bangalore.

[ryan79]

I honestly believe something like this would be better in Kings Park.

[CULWULLA]

seems like evry oz city is a getting a wheel.

[Homeroids]

This is also equivalent to the Chris Hardy unit of height measurement.

[dazzyd]

supersized!! yes im a cynical bastard. this is not a supersized wheel!! why do they have to always blow their own trumpets!! supersized is the london eye and the singapore flyer and i have been on both.. !!

rant over

[thesmallprint]

How tall is the one at the royal show? Probably similar? The view should be great though, too bad it won't be up for the red bull air race!

Also site here http://www.worldtouristattractions.co.uk/index.php

[All4dev]

Great... so now perth will havea big ugly wheel to go along with the massive silver thong sitting on the foreshore.......

[Scraperfan]

whether wheels are ugly or not is open to debate.

i like the look of them at night if they are lit properly, which im looking forward to for perth.

[Dilaz89]

The wheel will be 60m high or as high as building like Ellement or Statton.

I can't wait to ride it.

[aaronaugi1]

Great... so now perth will havea big ugly wheel to go along with the massive silver thong sitting on the foreshore.......

its only temporary. Frankly, if it adds up financially, i'm fine with the CoP testing anything that MAY have a benifit for the foreshore. I'm not a fan of ferris wheels, but the fact its temporary allows it to at least be given a go. For all we know it could be a great success.

[crave]

monorail!

[Rezz]

supersized wheel... lol. But I suppose if the only thing you have to compare it to is a kids ride at the Royal SHow then yeah, good description.

[Auxodium]

I honestly believe something like this would be better in Kings Park.

i would love for this to be in Kings Park... i mean bushland is pretty bpring and to have a Ferris wheel in there will be another tourist attraction to the park

[Scraperfan]

ferris wheel on the foreshore is perfect. somehow a ferris wheel and the states best war memorial dont seem to go hand in hand.

may as well put other rides in there and call it memorial land. besides, the wheel complements the belltower.

[alvse]

lol... imagine if the gondolas where shaped like swans :lol:

[ryan79]

ferris wheel on the foreshore is perfect. somehow a ferris wheel and the states best war memorial dont seem to go hand in hand.

may as well put other rides in there and call it memorial land. besides, the wheel complements the belltower.

Would be cool to get a view of Kings Park as well as better birds eye view of the city.

The foreshore is ok but should be bigger. I'll reserve judgement till I see it I guess.

[Auxodium]

dont place it near the parklands by the cenotaph... it would have to be in a completely different area... so much bushland wasted

[Citystyle]

With the waterfront the backburner i find this proposal disturbing.

[samboy]

what's that got to do with the price of rice in china?

[docker]

what's that got to do with the price of rice in china?

are you trying to egg me on to close this thread?

[Dilaz89]

Docker, change the title to observation wheel. The capsules are enclosed.

Also, it is 60m high.

[Auxodium]

GW docks... it is fine as a short term thing... however if we were to have one in the long term... kings park would be magnificant

[Perth4life]

why does the news keep saying 50m?

[acc521]

Being Perth though, this "temporary" attraction will probably be around a lot longer than planned.

[Scraperfan]

The name of the project is "Wheel Of Perth".

[Ari Gold]

I like It.

Just a bit taller would of been nice.



ALso should be up in 5 days?? Are they sure?

[djmajah]

Dont worry about getting another one, you can have ours!

Please?

[samboy]

Within the context of Perth (where there's not much else to do) it would be a good thing. Something different, something that will bring people to that part of town.

[Scraperfan]

theres a photo floating around in the foreshore thread with this photoshopped next to the belltower.

i think it should be moved in here.

[Auxodium]

i like the location for now... but i would as mentioned before would like a more permanent structure in our prime attraction kings park... awesome views of the city and surrounds oin that

[acc521]

Is it just me or does Wheel of Perth instantly invoke memories of Wheel of Fortune. Can you imagine a giant clicker on the side of it and people can win prizes :)

[Citystyle]

Being Perth though, this "temporary" attraction will probably be around a lot longer than planned.

exactly and thats why im scared of the damn thing.

[timofperth]

monorail!

agreed.

[Auxodium]

Is it just me or does Wheel of Perth instantly invoke memories of Wheel of Fortune. Can you imagine a giant clicker on the side of it and people can win prizes :)

could replace ACA ;)

[hack404]

Monorail

Cable car?

[Qbriserth]

theres a photo floating around in the foreshore thread with this photoshopped next to the belltower.

i think it should be moved in here.

True, I spent some time looking for it today, however the "foreshore thread" doesn't exist, do you mean Perth waterfront or waterfront redevelopment?

I looked in the archives randomly every 10 pages http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=582708

[chrisaus]

just to start the debate again the idea has grown on me for a cable car down kings park to the foreshore

[aaronaugi1]

is the general cencus that the cable car idea is "tacky" i would have thought it would be rather discrete on the landscape and more of a tourist travel mechanism (rather then walking or taking a bus from the CBD) rather than just another gimmick.

[jackso]

Im pretty sure it was generally supported by most here on SSC when the waterfront plan was released.

[Auxodium]

Fuck it build a cable car... and build a permanent ferris wheel in Kings Park...

[chrisaus]

In regards to the tacky element of the debate, due to the natural setting of Perth I think it would be more of an asset and attraction for the city over being a tacky tourist grab, a mono-rail would definitely be in the tacky category but I think a cable car linking Kings Park which is arguably Perth number one tourist asset, to a revitalised foreshore, our new potential major tourism asset, would make Perth a real force in the tourism market in our sector of the world.

[aaronaugi1]

Exactly.

Where would the cable car start and end? In particular at the city end? Do we believe its something that could go ahead even if the foreshore plan is shelved? Orientated towards the convention centre site and surrounds rather then whats going on on the Esplanade?

[Ari Gold]

I dont care where it starts. I dont care where it ends. I just want the thing built so that we can say..

"Hi welcome to Perth. Weathers great, People r nice (be it slightly old and at times lacking common sense) but most of all visit our many tourist destinations including our world class cable car ride".


Like seriously give us something we can brag to the world about. I mean visit our Bell Tower isnt overly exciting is it.

[chrisaus]

I think a good starting point would be between the war memorial and the tree top walk ending around where the new wheel is going to go.

[aaronaugi1]

I dont care where it starts. I dont care where it ends. I just want the thing built so that we can say..

"Hi welcome to Perth. Weathers great, People r nice (be it slightly old and at times lacking common sense) but most of all visit our many tourist destinations including our world class cable car ride".


Like seriously give us something we can brag to the world about. I mean visit our Bell Tower isnt overly exciting is it.

It still has to have some kind of attraction at either end or they'll never find an operator willing to take it on. Kings Park is a big enough attraction but there is'nt really anything at the other end.

Could you imagine living in Subiaco going for a morning walk through Kings Park then catching the cable car down to work on SGT!

Imagine the photo opportunities (Docker and Alvse!)

[Ari Gold]

It still has to have some kind of attraction at either end or they'll never find an operator willing to take it on. Kings Park is a big enough attraction but there is'nt really anything at the other end.

Could you imagine living in Subiaco going for a morning walk through Kings Park then catching the cable car down to work on SGT!

Imagine the photo opportunities (Docker and Alvse!)

Yeah I know it has to have a good starting and ending point for the shit to work. Might as well start it in friggen south perth otherwise.

But yes it has all the potential to really jazz Perth up.

[sandstorm6299]

Definitely it should start in close proximity to the War Memorial and the Tree Top walk, and end on the foreshore near Esplanade train station.

[aaronaugi1]

Definitely it should start in close proximity to the War Memorial and the Tree Top walk, and end on the foreshore near Esplanade train station.

There needs to be more at the Esplanade end. I believe, currently, there'd be a large imbalance of people wanting to access Kings Park, but not many using it to access the Esplanade. I guess theres always return trips.

[hayds]

There needs to be more at the Esplanade end. I believe, currently, there'd be a large imbalance of people wanting to access Kings Park, but not many using it to access the Esplanade. I guess theres always return trips.

theyd use it to get to within short walking distance to the busport and train station prob.

Otherwise make it go up the terrace then it goes underground at barrack st where you go through an underwater aquarium, then it diverts to the airport, then comes back via burswood, stops off at perth arena then stops off in hay st mall, pops up in london court to really liven the joint up, then ducks back underground and pops up out of the water in front of the bell tower. It converts into a hovercraft and scoots across the river to south perth and back again. Then it turns back into a cable car and goes to kings park and it starts again.

that'd get some tourists onto it wouldnt it?

[Scraperfan]

There needs to be more at the Esplanade end. I believe, currently, there'd be a large imbalance of people wanting to access Kings Park, but not many using it to access the Esplanade. I guess theres always return trips.

youre totally forgetting people would be accessing the train on the esplanade to get to kings park via the cable car and return.

[hayds]

i have an echo? hah

[perth85]

i love my city and all, but come on now, this is so beyond lame! the big wheel now! so we'r trying to do what london , paris and singapore do!
the only view your going to see is of south perth, you can't see past the city to the north or across kings park, and you get the same view from kings park!

Plus if we are going to put it anywhere, it should be away from the city area, like south perth, or heirisson island (bring some life to the island).
we can do better then this perth come on!!

[nazor]

i love my city and all, but come on now, this is so beyond lame! the big wheel now! so we'r trying to do what london , paris and singapore do!
the only view your going to see is of south perth, you can't see past the city to the north or across kings park, and you get the same view from kings park!

Plus if we are going to put it anywhere, it should be away from the city area, like south perth, or heirisson island (bring some life to the island).
we can do better then this perth come on!!

negative nancy!

Perth can do A LOT better but we here have long learned to accept the mediocre crap that is dished out. its either this or nothing!

[perthgazer]

paris has cafes does that mean we can't have them too?

i can't see any problem with activating some dead space on the perth foreshore

[jackso]

Its temporary.
Also Herrison island development is in the consuptual planning stages so hopefully something will happen there in the near future.
There is value in having this on the foreshore. If it becomes a popular attraction it might strenghten the case for waterfront development.

[MelboyPete]

is there a pic on how this wheel will look like ?

[Qbriserth]

is there a pic on how this wheel will look like ?

^^ Apparently it would look the same as the one in Brisbane, as the Brisbane one came from the same place Perth is having there's built from.... :lol: It seems every city wants a wheel...

http://www.worldtouristattractions.co.uk/wta_wheels.php

[Auxodium]

Chicago built the first wheel in the 1800's so EVERYONE HAS COPIED CHICAGO!!!!



is there a pic on how this wheel will look like ?


oh yeah sure i can give you a pic on what it will look like! ;)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5489/wheelky4.jpg

[Sanj]

i love my city and all, but come on now, this is so beyond lame! the big wheel now! so we'r trying to do what london , paris and singapore do!
the only view your going to see is of south perth, you can't see past the city to the north or across kings park, and you get the same view from kings park!

Plus if we are going to put it anywhere, it should be away from the city area, like south perth, or heirisson island (bring some life to the island).
we can do better then this perth come on!!


heirisson island? if it is put there do u think the wheel will be used as much as it will in its current planned location?

that would not work at all. ppl would more likely than not put it in the too hard basket.

[Nate Von Longneck II]

Russell square is by far the best location for this so called "giant" wheel.

[TRS-80]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5489/wheelky4.jpg

Weirdest wikipedia article I came across today: Wheel of Fortune (The wheel's configuration) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_Fortune_(The_wheel%27s_configuration)).

[perth85]

location of the wheel is all wrong, it should be in south perth foreshore or harrision island, even kings park is better

[perth85]

if you think about it, tourist and even locals could see a giant wheel coming from the island, and in doing so, we could attach at river boat pier along the shore in front of it for people to come, think of what a grand vision that could be.

[Scrawny]

What about where DNA tower is right now in Kings Park? I always thought that location deserved something a bit more grand. You'd be able to see the ocean and freo, and you'd get a awesome view of the perth skyline coming over a kings park horizon!!

[Auxodium]

its temporary...

but if you are arguing about where a permanent oone should be then fair enough... i only support one in Kings Park...

[Ari Gold]

location of the wheel is all wrong, it should be in south perth foreshore or harrision island, even kings park is better

Now why the fuck would a tourist visit South Perth???


Wheel should be on the foreshore. Cars shpuld be stationed on the foreshore.

Have a viable and attractive ferry system that connects to Perth Zoo and boom that doesnt sound too bad.

[izza]

the zoo?

[MelboyPete]

Melbourne's Southern Star is due to open in November...interesting to see how many cities in Oz ends up with one.

[chrisaus]

I think the foreshore is def the best location for the wheel, its what the foreshore is crying out for, an attraction.

[WCG]

i think a wheel of the foreshore is oneof the crappiest stupist things i ever heard. is sooooooo perth, funny how all the stupid things get the go ahead and sensible inspirational thins get axed

[Sanj]

..

[acc521]

^^Whatever Sanj said before editing, I am confident in his judgment and will say I agree :)

[chrisaus]

i think a wheel of the foreshore is oneof the crappiest stupist things i ever heard. is sooooooo perth, funny how all the stupid things get the go ahead and sensible inspirational thins get axed

care to expand on that, i cant see what is wrong with it, all the top cities in the world are getting one, plus its something abit different, better than spending the weekend in currumbine going to red rooster

[BeeJAy]

I'm not entirely impressed by the height of the ferris wheel, it kinda says mediocrity, however I'm happy that we're getting one regardless.

[Ari Gold]

the zoo?

Ummm why else would you go to South Perth???


I'm not entirely impressed by the height of the ferris wheel, it kinda says mediocrity, however I'm happy that we're getting one regardless.

My thoughts exactly. But remember this is temporary so hopefully it will lead to bigger things like how Melbourne has a small wheel and now a big massive wheel.

[Skyline Art]

location of the wheel is all wrong, it should be in south perth foreshore or harrision island, even kings park is better

I know the Ferris Wheel is only temporary, but if it were to stay yeah it would be probably a good spot to put it on Herrison Island. But that island would have to have other facilities there too and not just a wheel otherwise it may as well stay where it is to be built, no point moving it, may just cost more rate payers money... now we wouldn't want to piss off the people now would we... :lol:

[chrisaus]

fuck some people arn't happy with anything "should be this" "should be that" just be happy we are getting something abit different and go and enjoy it and stop complaining about small things

[Ari Gold]

Like how the convention centre is a little bit different?


Forum like these are for discussion about whats good and whats shithouse.

[Auxodium]

sometimes it does border on frustrating say always bagging the PCEC etc etc... Perth is spoilt for choice on where to place a wheel... i want one and somewhere around the river is great

[sandstorm6299]

Anywhere along the river or in Kings Park would be good, preference goes towards the river though. If the foreshore plan (the good one, not the CV one) actually went through, the wheel would fit very nicely.

[izza]

Why would u put it on Herrison Island. There is nothing to sustain it there. You would ride the wheel, see how little depth the city CBD has, get off and than what? If it is going to stay and the sculpture island goes ahead, then yes it would be a good idea, but in its current form NO.

The foreshore is the best spot for it.

[Auxodium]

CR Hardy says...

"how awesome would the wheel be during the redbull air race?"

[RocStar]

Is that ur sugar daddy?

[crave]

lol. oh my god.

he wants it so much.

[Dilaz89]

where was that pic taken?

[Skyline Art]

Another random photo, is that the organiser of the Red Bull Compo?????

looks like it is behind or somewhere near the council offices, maybe?

[perthgazer]

Tis Cr Chris Hardy no less

[crave]

lol.

i almost choked on my apple. why he seems like a jovial fella.

[Sanj]

thats cos he was standing on part of the east west axis, none of that north south bullshit.

[crave]

hats off to tha man, he's definitely got more brave than me wearing that bright red candy striped... i'd like to have sit down over tea and scones with him, and solve tha mystery that is cr. christopher james hardy. (i just made up tha james part)...

anyway, any updates on this wheel? i hope it's up and running by xmas.

[RocStar]

You know you want him crave...

He's indicating the wheel of perth will be 5x the height of the belltower.

[jez_24]

I learned on a walking tour with some girls from COP who are also on the Young Australian Tourism Association. They were talking to the guides and I overheard that the foreshore could pose a problem... This wheel and its massive concrete base might be too heavy.

[tbor]

Chris Hardy = Harold from Neighbours?

[jez_24]

That's who I thought it was at first!!! lol

[Qbriserth]

Perth Better do better than Brisbane...
:lol: it turns out the Brisbane one is rarely ever used... If it fails to attract people in Brisbane, Imagine Perth could be the same??????

Brisbane's wheel of boredom
Darrell Giles and Samantha Healy
November 15, 2008 11:00pm

THE eye in the sky at Brisbane's South Bank has become a giant wheel of misfortune.

State Government sources said the 60m high Wheel of Brisbane had failed as a major tourist attraction and was now unlikely to last beyond the two-year trial.

The 42 airconditioned carriages can carry about 340 people but is rarely, if ever, full.

The South Bank Corporation last week refused to reveal user numbers.

A South Brisbane resident who regularly passed the wheel said it was often stationary.

"You hardly ever see more than a handful of people in the gondolas. It gets busier at weekends, but is very quiet during the week," she said.

A Sunday Mail survey on Thursday found numbers varied between nine and 11 people riding the wheel over a half-hour period.

Premier Anna Bligh announced Brisbane's own version of the London Eye observation wheel in March.

The Wheel of Brisbane – only half the size of its British sister – was scheduled to start turning in May to mark the 20th anniversary of World Expo '88, but did not debut until Riverfire in September.

Ms Bligh said the big wheel would be a big winner: "It brings a new attraction to the South Bank site and re-lives some of the fun of Expo," she said. "I am sure there will be mixed views, but by and large they should be favourable."

The South Bank Corporation said the wheel had not cost taxpayers a cent. About $50,000 had been spent upgrading the power supply and "on-site co-ordination".

"These costs have been retrieved within the first two months of operation as part of the corporation's commercial arrangements with the operator," a spokeswoman said.

"The Wheel of Brisbane is expected to be at South Bank for at least a two-year period and was introduced to coincide with the Q150 celebrations next year."

The current contract with supplier World Tourist Attractions Australia expires in August 2010.

The spokeswoman said the wheel had "already achieved great success".

"It has generated significant interest from Brisbaneites and visitors to the precinct and it is proving a popular attraction to date.

"Details of patronage figures are confidential for commercial reasons, however, it is predicted the interest in the wheel will continue throughout the summer and the duration of its contract."

The government source said the school holidays would be the "make-or-break" period for the wheel.

"It is anticipated that the upcoming school holidays and warmer weather will continue to build upon the success to date to make the Wheel of Brisbane another key contributor to the already vibrant and thriving South Bank precinct," the spokeswoman said.

A young couple from New Zealand visiting South Bank last week said the $15 per adult price of the 10-minute attraction was too much and deterred them from taking advantage of Brisbane's newest tourist ride.

A British holidaymaker, who went on one gondola with one child and one other adult, said the cost of the attraction was quite expensive, but "worth it for the views".

Troy Harrison, from Spring-wood, said the price was worth it, even if a little expensive.

He said: "It cost us $65, but it gave us a chance to check out where we wanted to visit next.

"It was my first time too and as a local, it was great to see the city. And $15 (per adult) isn't bad, especially considering some of the prices (for rides) you pay at the Ekka.

"We want to go up again at night . . . see the city lights.

"But I could see why the price might deter some people from going up. It's a bit steep."


http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24656949-952,00.html

[WAuzzie]

^^ exactly what will happan in perth. theres nothing to see!

unlike london ... 360 degree views of wowness.

[Dilaz89]

theres plenty to see in Perth from up high.

I see the wheel bieng popular with British and Asian tourists. $15 is bugger all for them.

[samboy]

yeah I reckon it'll do alright for a couple of years. You have to keep in mind that there's not much else to do in Perth so it'll draw the crowds similar to the Da Vinci crap that stayed on for much longer than anticipated and that was truly an overpriced scam imo.

[Auxodium]

so according to groan people pay top dollar to see... nothing... i like that concept...

there are things to see in Perth, my question is what do you classify as things worthy of being seen in Perth?

sure it isnt a big city like the ones across the world and the nation but i think its location is a great way of seeing the river and surrounds from a new perspective... one of Perth's major assets.

[PerthCity]

theres plenty to see in Perth from up high.


Which can all be seen from Kings Park.

[izza]

Which can all be seen from Kings Park.

no. i reakon from this thing you may be able to see the ocean. But remeber it a tourist attraction. Everything we take for granted, kings park, river, ocean, hills etc are all new to tourists. Its like a londoner saying "why build the eye you can only see london"

[crave]

i dunno if y'all been to that hare krishna joint on tha 2nd floor at bell towers pier. anyway... that level has an amazing view of tha city.

[repi]

^^ It's called Analakshmi, and is a Hindi restaurant that operates on a "pay what you think it's worth" basis. You just go in, find a table and eat from the buffet. Then you have to shuffle past the old lady as you leave, and you feel pretty guilty if you don't pay a reasonable price! The food's pretty good, although pretty samey day-to-day. I normally give $10.

You're right about the views.

Make sure you bring small notes when you go - you don't want to be stuck asking for change for a $50 ... bit embarrassing :lol:

[Dilaz89]

Which can all be seen from Kings Park.

Not true at all.

I can say that with confidence having been up every office building in the city.

[acc521]

You also can't discount that in a tourist brochure it will be another "thing to do" which is something in its own right to many people.

[Sanj]

woah, u were nearly on the end of a major rant from me repi. for some reason i thought u said u asked for change from a $10...

the rant was a pretty good one as well. lucky i re-read yr post just before sending it.

:lol:

[crave]

^^ It's called Analakshmi, and is a Hindi restaurant that operates on a "pay what you think it's worth" basis. You just go in, find a table and eat from the buffet. Then you have to shuffle past the old lady as you leave, and you feel pretty guilty if you don't pay a reasonable price! The food's pretty good, although pretty samey day-to-day. I normally give $10.

You're right about the views.

Make sure you bring small notes when you go - you don't want to be stuck asking for change for a $50 ... bit embarrassing :lol:

give tha fitty! :p

umm. wanna take tha boy there when we're in town. just dunno how to go about telling him they don't serve meat there. lol.

[repi]

Haha. And a rant would have been deserved, too. Has anyone been there in the evening? I've only ever been for a quick lunch (I work just up the road).

[crave]

evening is much better. city and pretty lights.

:p

[Scraperfan]

Which can all be seen from Kings Park.

the view will be totally dirrerent. the kings park view is forward facing only, this will be 360 degrees and much closer to the skyscrapers and water.

no. i reakon from this thing you may be able to see the ocean. But remeber it a tourist attraction. Everything we take for granted, kings park, river, ocean, hills etc are all new to tourists. Its like a londoner saying "why build the eye you can only see london"

see the ocean? not a chance.

you can only see the ocan from the top levels of central park and bankwest. the wheel would have to be over 200m high for you to see the ocean at the very top!

Burswood plans stationary hot air balloon
Big news is that burswood want to install a hot air balloon, which is tethered to the ground. youll be able to float up high aove the city for 10 minutes and down again!

heard it on the radio this morning, ill post a news article if it comes online today.

[urbanwriter]

see the ocean? not a chance.

you can only see the ocan from the top levels of central park and bankwest. the wheel would have to be over 200m high for you to see the ocean at the very top!

Burswood plans stationary hot air balloon
Big news is that burswood want to install a hot air balloon, which is tethered to the ground. youll be able to float up high aove the city for 10 minutes and down again!

heard it on the radio this morning, ill post a news article if it comes online today.

i had something in this morning's paper... not sure if we have it on our website. didn't know it had been picked up by the radio though. interesting.

[Scraperfan]

yeh it was on the 7am news on 94.5.

its not online yet, can you post the details you know dan? sounds awesome.

[Dilaz89]

you'll be able to see as far as fremantle from the wheel. Doubt you'll be able to see much ocean though.

[crave]

Burswood plans stationary hot air balloon
Big news is that burswood want to install a hot air balloon, which is tethered to the ground. youll be able to float up high aove the city for 10 minutes and down again!


who says we need foreshore development to turn perth into disneyland!!! :lol:

[acc521]

I thought we already had a stationary hot air balloon in Perth? I believe it's called Parliament House.

[NailZ]

I thought we already had a stationary hot air balloon in Perth? I believe it's called Parliament House.

Oh SNAP! Good one.

[urbanwriter]

Go here (http://www.vicpark.ws/pdf/081118%20EMBS%20Agenda%20.pdf) and down to item 1.9. That's all there is that is publically available, to my knowledge, at this stage. That's where I got the story from anyway.

[Scraperfan]

Awesome cheers.

The installation will consist of a large helium-filled passenger balloon, tethered by a
cable attached to a winch that is buried underneath a surface-level landing
platform.
The passenger gondola is broadly circular, allowing the main tether cable to pass
through to reach the balloon. When passengers have boarded the balloon, the
tether cable is paid out, allowing the balloon to fly. After a suitable interval, the
winch then retracts the cable, pulling the balloon back to surface level. The main
cable is under tension at all times.
Such tethered balloons systems are installed in many countries, and the new
location at Perth is seen as providing an exciting and unique facility to the area.
Planned operating hours will include night-time operation.
Components and Installation
Major components of the system are the envelope, the net, the gondola and the
winch plus tether cable.
The winch is electronically powered, with controls available to both an on-board
operator and a ground station. When not in use, the balloon envelope is pulled
downwards by a series of outer winches, to rest on the gondola. In this position, the
top of the balloon is approximately 80 ft from above surface level. When in flying
configuration, but restrained by the main cable at ground level, the top of the
balloon is approximately 120 ft above surface level.
In addition to the carriage of appropriate navigation lighting, the balloon envelope
can be illuminated by internal lighting.
Location
The site of the installation will be 4.1 miles west of the threshold of runway 06/24,
displaced 0.75 miles north of the extended centreline.
Proposed Maximum Operating Height
The stated Maximum Operating Height (MOH) of the balloon will be 150 metres
(500 ft) about surface level, but the likely MOH of this operation will be 120 metres
(400 ft) above surface level. The exact maximum height above the Australian
Height Datum is yet to be calculated, but it is anticipated that, when calculated, the
MOH will increase by less than 100 ft.
A small mobile crane will be used on site during the final stages of installation.
Investigations are currently being undertaken to ascertain if the operation of the
tethered balloon will lead to a penetration of the Approach Path for runway 06/24 or
the Obstacle Limitation Surface (OLS). Initial indications are that the balloon will not
penetrate either area.
Operating Standards
ELECTED MEMBERS BRIEFING SESSION
AGENDA –- 18 NOVEMBER 2008
Item
1. 9
- SD 101 -
Item
1. 9
The balloon will be operated by a company experienced in the operation of tethered
balloons, with fully trained staff. The balloon is built and maintained to aircraft
standards, and the installation will be conducted by Lindstrand Technologies Ltd, a
leading manufacturer of this type of equipment.
The operators acknowledge the proximity of Perth Airport, and offer a high level of
cooperation with the airport operating company.”
Planning Services sought additional information on the proposed tethered balloon from
Westralia Airports Corporation and the following information was received on 23 October
2008:
“What is the exact location of the balloon within the Burswood Complex?
I have attached two Google Map images for you, which show the location. Let me
know if the visuals are not sufficient, and I will get co-ordinates for you.
How will the balloon be tethered to the ground or the building?
The balloon is tethered by a steel cable, which is connected/wound to a large
electronic winch system. The winch, contained in a steel container, is either buried
beneath the landing platform or located within a building set to the side of the
platform. The ground works at the site are then finished to a high standard.
Will advertising be offered on the balloon and perhaps the gondola as shown
on the original graphic?
This is not certain at this time, but is very likely.
What are the intended operating hours for the balloon? Are night operations
to be considered?
It is likely that the balloon will operate in conjunction with the operating hours of the
various facilities at Burswood Park. Night operations are planned – the system is
totally silent in operation and this is unlikely to raise concerns in this respect.
What is the maximum number of occupants/passengers that can be carried at
any one time?
The maximum number is 30 per flight.
Was your intended 150m maximum height to be the level of the top of balloon
or the gondola level?
The top of the balloon.”
ELECTED MEMBERS BRIEFING SESSION
AGENDA –- 18 NOVEMBER 2008
Item
1. 9
- SD 102 -
Item
1. 9
Legal Compliance:
Town of Victoria Park Town Planning Scheme No. 1, Clause 4
Clause 4 of the Town Planning Scheme No. 1 states:
“This Scheme applies to the Scheme area which covers all the municipal district of
the Town of Victoria Park apart from the area comprising the land known as the
“Resort Lands” to which Section 7 of the Casino (Burswood Island) Agreement Act
1985 applies”.
In accordance with the above Clause, any proposed development located within the
Burswood Entertainment Complex is exempt from seeking Planning Approval from the
Town of Victoria Park. Furthermore, approval is not required from the Western Australian
Planning Commission under the Metropolitan Region Scheme.
This does not exempt the need for Burswood Entertainment Complex to seek a building
licence or a sign licence for the tethered balloon proposal.
COMMENT:
The Town of Victoria Park has no planning controls over the area commonly known as
Burswood Entertainment Complex and therefore any comments the Town would like to
include in a response to Westralia Airports Corporation should be confined to potential
building issues only.
Discussions with Council’s Manager of Environmental Health and Building has not
revealed any major building concerns with the proposal, however it has been highlighted
that any plans associated with a building licence application will need to be certified by a
structural engineer.
The only other concerns are in relation to comments from the applicant that the tethered
balloon is likely to be used for advertising purposes. The Town does not support third party
advertising as per Clause 11 (2), l, of the Signs Local Law 2006, which states that the “The
Town may refuse to approve an application for a licence, where the sign advertises goods
or services which are not displayed or offered for sale or otherwise available to the public
upon or from the land where the sign is erected”. Whilst the applicant is exempt from
seeking Planning Approval for signage, a sign licence is still required. It is recommended
to advise Westralia Airports Corporation of this fact upfront, with the intention that the
applicant be advised that any sign licence received in the future which demonstrates third
party advertising, will not be supported by Council.
The safety of the helium in the case of an accident or fire, both in the balloon itself and any
associated storage areas, and the potential privacy issues for nearby residents are
concerns that have been raised by staff. Information in relation to these issues has not
been provided with the documentation referred, nor is there an opportunity for Council to
undertake community consultation with adjoining property owners and occupiers as part of
this referral process. A comment conveying these concerns is included in the
ELECTED MEMBERS BRIEFING SESSION
AGENDA –- 18 NOVEMBER 2008
Item
1. 9
- SD 103 -
Item
1. 9
recommendation.
In conclusion, as Council has no planning controls which apply to the subject land, there
are no significant planning grounds for which this proposal should not be supported. The
proposal would be the first of its kind in Western Australia and could be an interesting
attraction located within the Town of Victoria Park.
In view of the above information, it is recommended that comments and advice notes be
forwarded to the Westralia Airports Corporation to recommend to the Commonwealth
Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government
(DoITRDaLG). However, further discussion on the proposal amongst Councillors is
encouraged prior to finalisation of the recommended response.
RESPONSIBLE OFFICER RECOMMENDATION:
In relation to the correspondence received from Westralia Airports Corporation
dated 23 September 2008, it is recommended that Council submit the following
comments to the Westralia Airports Corporation in response to the tethered balloon
proposal at Burswood Entertainment Complex:

1. A building licence is required to be submitted to the Local Government Authority for the tethered balloon proposal. Any plans associated with a building licence application will need to be certified by a structural engineer.

2. A sign licence is required if advertising is displayed on any part of the tethered balloon including the gondola. Please be advised that Council does not support third party advertising in accordance with the Signs Local Law 2006 and as such, the tethered balloon shall only advertise the Burswood Entertainment Complex or the services offered within.

3. Issues of noise from patrons, privacy of residents of adjacent towers, safety implications associated with the operation of the tethered balloon and associated helium storage and its potential flammability need to be considered particularly in light of there being no opportunity for community consultation with adjoining property owners and occupiers as part of this process.

[dallastexjr]

I went on a tethered balloon ride in Berlin. It was alright, I guess. Killed a few minutes, but don't remember too much about the view. Completely forgot about it 'til I read Dan's post.

[Sanj]

where's the gondola? i thought it was just a balloon?

[Dilaz89]

the part of the balloon people stand in is called the gondola.

[Scraperfan]

30 person capacity is awesome.

this will be great when lit at night too. very, very nice surprise today. views from 120m will be spectacular in that location, especially at night.

[Sanj]

the part of the balloon people stand in is called the gondola.

really? is that what it is going to be called? the burswood gondola?

[Dilaz89]

don't know. Docker named the thread.

I doubt it will be viable though. Burswood feels quite isolated from the CBD which is where all the tourists are.

[Sanj]

ah ok cool i understand now.

[Scraperfan]

the helipad at burswood for joy flights does very well michael.

they wont just be banking on walk on traffic, im sure it will be promoted. plus, its about a massive floating sign for the hotel and casino as well.

[docker]

in the article by Dan in the paper it says sky Gondola in the title so i copied it.

[urbanwriter]

I didn't call it that though. I think that was subbing. There is no title as far as I am aware. Closest thing to a title I've seen is "tethered helium-filled passenger balloon"... which might not be the most marketable of names.

[docker]

well it's either burswood gondola or balloon, i think gondola sounds better

[Sanj]

yeah but gondola is very confusing. i definitely thought there was going to be some tacky perth interpretation of venice, like a gondola on the swan river or something

[Auxodium]

if it is confirmed post it, if not welll dont announce it as it will happen in the thread :P

[Matt B]

yeah but gondola is very confusing. i definitely thought there was going to be some tacky perth interpretation of venice, like a gondola on the swan river or something

Sanj you need to think in terms of ironic postmodernism, not tacky...

[Perth4life]

im lost

[crave]

this will in actual fact be tha burswood dome that will be used.

[dcmcd]

What's next, a Monorail?

[crave]

yep all around burwood park.

[tayls84]

There is one of these things proposed for Burswood in Nusa Dua. Very tacky. http://www.balidiscovery.com/tickets/activity.asp?Id=581

[samboy]

I think we should get past the 'tackiness' tag every time something gets proposed. Perth lacks attractions and if this sort of staff will bring people/kids/families out then I don't see the harm. We need to offer something other than picnic spots and cycling paths for those who want something different. Also let's keep in mind that Perth is not some classy cultural hub anyway it won't be cramping any style. A little tackiness here and there adds a desperately needed dimension

[Sanj]

i do see what u are saying and ive got no issue with the balloon but i would have been really sceptical about a gondola on the river.

having said that tho, i believe brisbane has one and there is a guy in perth who has a company called gondola on the swan or somethign like this. i belive he charges $300 for an hour starting in east perth.

[Dilaz89]

yeah, he lives near the fwy around manning. I can see his advertisments from my car.

[Auxodium]

agreed samboy, if we think things like this is tacky then what would you (not you samboy but people in general who come up with the retort) consider to not be tacky for Perth?

sure it has been done before a zillion times but who cares if it is popular around the world why not do it?

[ryan79]

Mmm, I dunno. I don't see the need for Perth to be tacky really.

But I don't really have a problem with these proposals, if they are done properly and not half arsed attempts like every single other fucking thing in this city. It just makes it tacky and embarassing.

[Ipggi]

i do see what u are saying and ive got no issue with the balloon but i would have been really sceptical about a gondola on the river.

having said that tho, i believe brisbane has one and there is a guy in perth who has a company called gondola on the swan or somethign like this. i belive he charges $300 for an hour starting in east perth.

http://www.gondolasontheswan.com/

[B787-938]

A 30 person gondola, 120m in the air at night sounds like a good place for a piss-up, I wonder if it can be hired :cheers:

[tbor]

^^ Hahah nice idea but i reckon they'd never get insurance let alone a licence to do that I'm afraid

[Sanj]

haha yeah if they did the disclaimer would make for fun reading though

[crave]

http://www.gondolasontheswan.com/

lol.

on a mass expanse of water? come on!!!

i love how they fotoshoped a gondola in front of perth cbd...

[Scraperfan]

i dont think its very romantic when you have the 3rd person there "watching". i think its stupid, but its another depth to the cityscape which is very welcome.

would be more suited to a place like mandurah that has canals.

[tbor]

Hmmm gondola's on the swan... could be the scene of my next 'jellyfish fight' against a few mates. Reminds me of my year 11 Surf Cat lessons on Swan water :D

... don't be hating y'all.

[GanEden]

Any pics of this wheel then??

[Auxodium]

here is teh image from a few pages back....


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5489/wheelky4.jpg

[Australiasia]

:dance2: Today’s West

Ferris Wheel Rolls In

After months of delays, a Ferris wheel destined for the Swan River foreshore should arrive in WA Tomorrow.
The 50M diameter wheel has been stowed in 19 Containers for the sea voyage from Britain.
It will take two to three weeks to assemble. The owner, British firm World Attractions hopes it will be operating by early next year.
Perth City Council was originally told the Ferris wheel would be 60m high and have 42 capsules, but the wheel arriving tomorrow will be 10m lower and have only 36 capsules.

[Johnvb]

Oh.. 50m is not that high. Fingers crossed it will have a better reception than brissy

[WAuzzie]

no chance. its like going up and down in the bell tower lift. yawn

[Perth4life]

i havnt even been up the bell tower, what a waste of $5 or whatever it is.

[WAuzzie]

i think its like 8 or 9$

[sandstorm6299]

The wheel isn't going to be all that exciting. Probably great views of the western suburbs, maybe Freo, south of the river, up the river. Probably see nothing northwise, with the "traditional line of skyscrapers" blocking the view and all. Liven things up on the dead foreshore, maybe. At least it's much more interesting that the Bells.

[Skyline Art]

:dance2: Today’s West

Ferris Wheel Rolls In

After months of delays, a Ferris wheel destined for the Swan River foreshore should arrive in WA Tomorrow.
The 50M diameter wheel has been stowed in 19 Containers for the sea voyage from Britain.
It will take two to three weeks to assemble. The owner, British firm World Attractions hopes it will be operating by early next year.
Perth City Council was originally told the Ferris wheel would be 60m high and have 42 capsules, but the wheel arriving tomorrow will be 10m lower and have only 36 capsules.

:lol: ^^ PCC got jipped! Bet someone knew it was 50m and not 60m......... seriously how could they not know that it is only 50m with 36 capsuals and not 60m with 42 capsules?

[perthgazer]

oh oh, hardys measurements are going to be all out of whack now.

[WAuzzie]

The wheel isn't going to be all that exciting. Probably great views of the western suburbs, maybe Freo, south of the river, up the river. Probably see nothing northwise, with the "traditional line of skyscrapers" blocking the view and all. Liven things up on the dead foreshore, maybe. At least it's much more interesting that the Bells.

see freo? lol! if u cant see it from kings park, doubt u can from this thing!

[aaronaugi1]

see freo? lol! if u cant see it from kings park, doubt u can from this thing!

um. why not?

[WAuzzie]

see what? where the river meets the ocean at a distant blury hazy horizon line? not much of a view! may as well say u can see kalumunda cos u can see the hills ... from anywhere!

[Ipggi]

:lol: ^^ PCC got jipped! Bet someone knew it was 50m and not 60m......... seriously how could they not know that it is only 50m with 36 capsuals and not 60m with 42 capsules?

Eh well the news paper couldn't even report the name of the company right. It is WTA, World Tourist Attractions, not World Attractions.

http://www.worldtouristattractions.co.uk/

It is strange that Perth's wheel is smaller. Because according to their website ALL their other wheels are ...


The Wheel of Trentham
The Wheel of Paris
The Wheel of Greenwich
The Royal Windsor Wheel
The Wheel of Great Yarmouth
The Wheel of Brisbane
The Wheel of Hyde Park
The Wheel of Belfast in partnership with Ulster Bank
The Wheel of Manchester
The Norwich Union Yorkshire Wheel, York
The Wheel of Bangalore
The Wheel of Brussels
The Wheel of Braehead

Vital statistics
Each wheel boasts the following impressive specification:

60 meters high
365 tonnes, fully self supporting
42 capsules seating up to 6 Adults and 2 kids each
Fully enclosed, modern, air-conditioned and heated capsules
A true 360 degree panoramic view of the surrounding area
Graceful and awe inspiring design
Almost completely silent operation
High standards and professional operation.

http://www.worldtouristattractions.co.uk/wta_wheels.php

[exoz]

I went on the Hyde Park wheel on Saturday. It was disappointing compared to the London Eye, which has pods so big that you can walk around in them. The pods on the Hyde Park wheel were small, not much bigger than you'd get on a ferris wheel at the Royal Show. But I agree that a wheel will add some interested to an otherwise dead foreshore. If nothing else, it might help people to realise that the foreshore is a wasted asset that could be so much more exciting than it currently is.

[Bullswool]

Bell tower is nice. Good to go up to the top to have a look, read up on the bells etc.

[aaronaugi1]

see what? where the river meets the ocean at a distant blury hazy horizon line? not much of a view! may as well say u can see kalumunda cos u can see the hills ... from anywhere!

Fremantle isn't a one story town. The docking cranes, Maritime Museum, Port Authority building and probably a lot of the taller town structures should be visable. I think that constitutes being able to see Fremantle.

[Bonga]

Fremantle isn't a one story town. The docking cranes, Maritime Museum, Port Authority building and probably a lot of the taller town structures should be visable. I think that constitutes being able to see Fremantle.
Don't forget Johnston Court:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/52430903_f2fdffbbf4.jpg?v=0 (http://flickr.com/photos/45901728@N00/52430903)

:D

[Skyline Art]

The Port Authority Building has a few levels on it, come on sure most 2 level bldgs but there are a few multistorey stuff, just not really any big guys there.... will those man made islands be still built off the coast there? then the story changes... :lol:

[urbanwriter]

I'd like to point out that my original story had the name correct. When they cut it down to 3cm for the metro edition, they stuffed it up.

[Skyline Art]

:lol: ^^ Wonder if that is what they do all the time, cut stories back to save space and stuff up stories.... Im sure now that is what happens...

[Sanj]

the west stuff up a story? i refuse to believe it

[PD]

Don't forget Johnston Court:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/52430903_f2fdffbbf4.jpg?v=0 (http://flickr.com/photos/45901728@N00/52430903)

:D

Big lol.

[urbanwriter]

lol. thanks for the barracking guys.
in this instance, i have the evidence to prove it... it is correct in the country edition but wrong in the metro.

the mistake error where children aged 2-3 ride for $2 (it should be $3)... is all my own work, however.

[jez_24]

Off topic, but I've been loving the corrections and clarifications in the West lately :)

[Bonga]

lol. thanks for the barracking guys.
in this instance, i have the evidence to prove it... it is correct in the country edition but wrong in the metro.
I hadn't even realised there were two different versions. How long has this been the case?

What are the differences between them? I assume advertising would be the main one?

[Perth4life]

well the country one has more country related stories.

[urbanwriter]

They're the same basic paper. The advertising is the same, to the best of my knowledge. What makes them differ is the time they went on the presses. Country edition deadline is earlier because it has to be off the presses in time to travel (and hit the petrol stations in the metro area by about 10pm, etc).
The news isn't static so anything that needs updating is updated for the first metro edition and then the same process happens again for the second metro.
If a car bomb goes of at 8pm it will have missed the country edition but we might well run with it in the first metro edition and have even more information in the second metro, for instance.

[Bonga]

Thanks for the info.

I've always been impressed by how quickly newspapers are produced... even more so now.

[Auxodium]

well the country one has more country related stories.

lol and?

the west is the same anywhere in the state

[urbanwriter]

Most insightful.
And inaccurate. I just explained how it works. Seriously.

[samboy]

Big Wheel arrives in Perth
11th Dec 2008


The big Wheel of Perth, which is to be a spectacular new feature of the Swan River foreshore, has arrived –– albeit in pieces. The 50-metre wheel arrived at Fremantle on Wednesday 10 December in 19 sea containers.

The owners and operators of the Wheel of Perth, World Tourist Attractions, plan to have it operational by New Year.

Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi said the location for the Wheel of Perth is on the foreshore to the west of Barrack Square.

“This location will provide stunning panoramic views of the city and our Swan River,” Ms Scaffidi said. “The choice of this location will ensure people are easily able to access the Wheel via public transport and to enjoy other facilities in this general area, such as the Swan Bells and Barrack Square with its many dining facilities.”

“The Wheel of Perth will be a very welcome attraction on the foreshore.”

“I am amazed at how many people have been asking me when it would arrive. I can now say that it won’t be long until you can see the big wheel spinning.”

“The City of Perth is advised the installation process will take between two and three weeks, which in itself will be an interesting sight for city visitors and passers-by.”

The Wheel of Perth has 36 capsules and can simultaneously transport 288 passengers. The Wheel experience will last for about 12 minutes and include three full revolutions, including one stop at full height to allow guests to take photos of the spectacular views.

The pricing structure is set to be $15 for adults, $10 for children aged 4-12, $2 for children aged 2-3 and free for infants. Private capsules for up to six adults and two children will be available for $95.

“I look forward to seeing who the first couple are to propose on the Wheel and the sheer joy on the thousands of kids’ faces as they experience something unique for our city,” the Lord Mayor said.

Construction of the Wheel of Perth is subject to site approval from the Western Australian Planning Commission

[Sanj]

Construction of the Wheel of Perth is subject to site approval from the Western Australian Planning Commission

that is a bit scary. i know it is probably a formality but still to bring it over without site approval from WAPC...

[crave]

will tha wheel have lights on it?

[Skyline Art]

Big Wheel arrives in Perth


Construction of the Wheel of Perth is subject to site approval from the Western Australian Planning Commission

One would have thought WAPC would have already assessed it for approval before it even left the country of origin...

that is a bit scary. i know it is probably a formality but still to bring it over without site approval from WAPC...

Yeah it is a formality, but why ^^ leave it to now? Is it because they have to assess it against the exact location in relation to the river or a road, or parkland etc?? What gives? :poke: Blindfold U said you work at AFH what is your idea? :lol:

[samboy]

It's all about people feeling important. It will get approved.

[sandstorm6299]

It'll be hard to not approve it since it's already here, but hey, you never know what those crazy minds are thinking off. It'll be good to get it done by New Years. They could even sell packages for Australia Day celebrations. That will be a moneyraker.

[perthgazer]

has somebody mentioned that the ferris wheel is under construction?

the base of it anyway.

[Skyline Art]

has somebody mentioned that the ferris wheel is under construction?

the base of it anyway.

Cool, I thought they would do it after xmas; or was it they would have it completed by just the otherside after new years? Hope they have it up and running for new years' fireworks, it would be fun to watch it from up in the wheel... :lol:

[samboy]

It'll be ready just in time for when the kids go back to school and the 4 tourists go home. Typical Perth.

[Tyler]

Went past it yesterday arvo, it seems the structure is only on a platform and the poles aren't actually being dug into the ground.

[BartBart]

They said on the news yesterday it should be ready by Monday week (5/1/09).

[Scraperfan]

Courtesy of the worst.

http://www.thewest.com.au//contentversion/606989979/images/WAwheel.jpg

[Cambo]

They said on the news yesterday it should be ready by Monday week (5/1/09).

Right so the day after Summadayze has past perfect timing. :bash:

[WAuzzie]

Courtesy of the worst.

http://www.thewest.com.au//contentversion/606989979/images/WAwheel.jpg

hmmm thought it was on the big grass patch in eastern perth. looking tiny

[Phoenix_1]

hmmm thought it was on the big grass patch in eastern perth. looking tiny

Thats because it is small, compared to the other observation wheels (Southern Star, Singapore Flyer, London Eye etc).

[WAuzzie]

jee bell tower will have higher views. what a total waste of $

[jackso]

Im sure it wont cost that much to go on...

[WAuzzie]

Im sure it wont cost that much to go on...

i meant of getting the wheel to perth and all costs associated.

[jackso]

Well it didnt cost any money to us. If the operators make a profit off it, which no doubt they will then it is not a waste of money at all. Remember this is privately funded...

[WAuzzie]

well wateva.. pittyfull as a tourist to see. its like some sorta country fair with a ferriswheel.

[Ipggi]

well wateva.. pittyfull as a tourist to see. its like some sorta country fair with a ferriswheel.

Get over it Goran, the company operating this wheel also has near identical wheels in Paris, Brussels, Hyde Park London, Manchester, Glasgow, Belfast. Would you prefer the 3cm tall green grass instead?

[Bullswool]

I'm with Goran on this. It's tiny.... can get the same views from the Bell Tower. All the same, i will be there on the first few days wanting a ride :p

[Phoenix_1]

I'm with Goran on this. It's tiny.... can get the same views from the Bell Tower. All the same, i will be there on the first few days wanting a ride :p

I think it's tacky too and, to be honest, I feel observation wheels are an eyesore. But at least it will fit in between the convention centre and the bell tower. That part of Riverside Drive should be renamed eyesore alley.

[Bullswool]

I love tacky, so I love this. Just wished it wasn't so puny.

[Sanj]

I think it's tacky too and, to be honest, I feel observation wheels are an eyesore. But at least it will fit in between the convention centre and the bell tower. That part of Riverside Drive should be renamed eyesore alley.

im completely for anything that will bring ppl to this part of the city or to the city in general. i think once ppl start going there more often perhaps they will realise how good it would be if that whole area was something other than grass

[Bonga]

i think once ppl start going there more often perhaps they will realise how good it would be if that whole area was something other than grass
Nah... they'll start using it for picnics and family cricket, then become fiercely protective and resistant to any form of development whatsoever. ;)

[Scraperfan]

the belltowers viewing platform is at a height of around 35m and only has limited viewing.

The ferris wheel has uninterrupted 365 degree views from your capsule at a top height of 50m of which you get to sit down and you dont have to climb the stairs.

im hoping that if successful, we may be able to have our own 120m version, sometime in the future.

[WAuzzie]

the belltowers viewing platform is at a height of around 35m and only has limited viewing.

The ferris wheel has uninterrupted 365 degree views from your capsule at a top height of 50m of which you get to sit down and you dont have to climb the stairs.

im hoping that if successful, we may be able to have our own 120m version, sometime in the future.

try using the lift next time sf...

[Rezz]

After a lot of searching I've finally found the business plan for this new Perth wheel:

1) Observe how to properly design and implement a wheel in other countries
2) Take those findings and halve them, quarter them if feeling crap that day
3) Make sure its too late/small/expensive and put it in a stupid location
4) ????????????????
5) Profit

What was wrong with a 100m wheel? That's a nice round figure? Permanently dig the bastard in and put up with all the crying for about 2.8 years then viola! Perth has another halfway decent attraction that will draw tourists and the odd local to the foreshore.

Me for Premier? haha :)

[acc521]

I think people really fail to appreciate the fact that this is not costing the State or the City anything at all.

It is in no way comparable to something like the London Eye, Singapore Flyer or Melbourne Observation Wheel. There are countless cities who have small wheels like this. It is a completely different thing.

[Sanj]

After a lot of searching I've finally found the business plan for this new Perth wheel:

1) Observe how to properly design and implement a wheel in other countries
2) Take those findings and halve them, quarter them if feeling crap that day
3) Make sure its too late/small/expensive and put it in a stupid location
4) ????????????????
5) Profit

What was wrong with a 100m wheel? That's a nice round figure? Permanently dig the bastard in and put up with all the crying for about 2.8 years then viola! Perth has another halfway decent attraction that will draw tourists and the odd local to the foreshore.

Me for Premier? haha :)

what is wrong with the location? in what way is it a stupid location?

what was wrong with a 100m wheel? who knows? im sure they would have done it if it was financially viable. i think it is entirely simplistic to say they should have gone for a 100m wheel without having any idea of what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to organising something like this.

i think we also fall for the trap of politicians and real estate agents using words like world class and iconic. sometimes we just need something good to get the job done.

[docker]

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[Sanj]

They truly are working thru the holiday period like they claimed. I saw a fair few ppl working yesterdat around 7pm when I drove past

[aaronaugi1]

I like it, but i agree it could have been bigger.

I guess its temporary. If the trial goes well maybe we'll see a bigger one installed.

[jarkti]

bloody hell that was quick
id hate to be the blokes putting it up
for fellas dont get a holidays
wish it was bigger then we could have got a decent view but
its only a rental itll be gone soon trade in for a bigger one haha
cant wait to go on it.

[Perth4life]

360 degree views of what? Sorry but it's way too small to be able to see anything whatsoever, dissapointing...

[PerthCity]

It really does look tiny. I can't see why a view from the top would be of interest to any tourist.

[Phoenix_1]

Looks like an English county fair has come to town with the cirque de soleil tent next door.

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[alvse]

I dunno if that is the cirque de soleil tent... it's first night in perth isn't till the end of January... and they don't usually go for the plain white look....

but I could be wrong...

... on a side note... my sister got me tickets for the opening night :)

[docker]

its for the summadaze festival (music concert)

[jackso]

I dunno if that is the cirque de soleil tent... it's first night in perth isn't till the end of January... and they don't usually go for the plain white look....

but I could be wrong...

... on a side note... my sister got me tickets for the opening night :)

Yeah, ill be getting tickets soon. Ive been to all of them in Perth (except maybe one, i forget. They are all similar things but i cant get enough.

The tent is generally blue and yellow, allthough it was a plain white tent the first time they came to perth.

[ryan79]

its for the summadaze festival (music concert)

Already?? Thats not till next Sunday.

[Scraperfan]

Move it to Scarborough or Hillarys Marina in 2 years and get a 120m one put in.

[urbanwriter]

I dunno if that is the cirque de soleil tent... it's first night in perth isn't till the end of January... and they don't usually go for the plain white look....

but I could be wrong...

... on a side note... my sister got me tickets for the opening night :)

my invitation to opening night and the after party definitely says "under the blue and yellow grand chapiteau", so it's not the cirque tent.


and I totally posted that just to be a wanker. lol

[tayls84]

Cirque de Soleil is going at the Eastern end of Langley Park. They have been putting the hard stand down over the last few weeks.

[samboy]

360 degree views of what? Sorry but it's way too small to be able to see anything whatsoever, dissapointing...

360 degrees of whatever is around it :lol: but let's face it because of its position I don't think you'd see much more even if it was twice as high. The skyline can be seen from ground level anyway. Not sure what else is there in Perth to see.
It's going to be an upmarket version of what you get at the Royal show. As lisa said though, as long at it gets people into that area it's a win. We just want to build momentum and break down bshit paranoia.

[hack404]

Perth got stooged.

[scotdaliney]

360 degrees of whatever is around it :lol: but let's face it because of its position I don't think you'd see much more even if it was twice as high. The skyline can be seen from ground level anyway. Not sure what else is there in Perth to see.
It's going to be an upmarket version of what you get at the Royal show. As lisa said though, as long at it gets people into that area it's a win. We just want to build momentum and break down bshit paranoia.

Hmm, I doubt there will be many return visitors. :lol:

[Cambo]

Will be a great sight if this one is lit up with the bell tower at night. :)
Now if only Ill be around too see the waterfront cable car go up and if.

[WAuzzie]

this will steal any visitors to the bell tower. why put something like that so close to the tower? and as i said, this has like a few extra meters on the obv lvl of bell tower ... so pointless

[docker]

then don't ride it!

[desperaterobots]

What the hell were you all expecting from a temporary wheel? Seriously.

[WAuzzie]

how about something decent .. seriously.

[desperaterobots]

I'm failing to see your specific problems.

[hack404]

What the hell were you all expecting from a temporary wheel? Seriously.


The London Eye was built to be temporary.

[ryan79]

I think people should give it a go first before knocking it.

From photos it looks too small to get a decent view but have to try it first.

[Scraperfan]

goran, the belltower is more than the observation deck, for fuks sake man. im not even going to go into it if you dont have a full understanding by now.

the ob deck of the belltower is at a height of around 30m, so your 20m higher here and as i said yesterday, youre in an air conditioned pod with 360 views. the belltower only has fixed window views.

if this was a government project, i could take the whinging, but as a private project the company has obviously decided the size of the wheel based on a cost to profit ratio. if they think they can make money from a bigger one theyll bring one here eventually.

[acc521]

Exactly. For about the fourth time in a month - it's privately funded. Not costing the government, the council, the taxpayer, CoP residents a cent. Who cares that it's a tiny "fun fair" sized wheel.

The fact is it's something and if it only brings a small number of people into the city or gives a family a reason to go into the city to check it out then it has done it's job.

There is absolutely no downside to this so stop complaining. Of course a kick-ass big wheel would be better but guess what - it would require public funding and there are a number of projects that are more worthy of public funding in Perth atm than a big wheel.

[tayls84]

One would hope that the council is actually making a small amount from leasing the site to the operators.

[docker]

^^ i thought they were providing it for free.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=115308

Giant Swan River foreshore wheel ready to roll next week
30th December 2008, 6:00 WST
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Picture: Barry Baker

The first passengers should be able to ride the Wheel of Perth on the Swan River foreshore next week.

BLOG: Will you ride the Wheel? (http://blogs.thewest.com.au/news/news-blog-will-you-ride-the-wheel/)

Construction began on the 50m high attraction just before Christmas and a team of Dutch engineers has worked through the holiday season to erect the wheel.

They expect to install the last of its 36 passenger capsules this morning.

Jason Todd, a spokesman for World Tourist Attractions, which will operate the wheel, said that fully loaded with 284 passengers, the wheel would weigh 278 tonnes.

“You ride at a speed of about 1.5m a second which is, I guess, the pace of a brisk walk,” he said.

Each passenger gets three revolutions on a trip, which will last between 12 and 15 minutes.

Mr Todd said the wheel should look complete at some point today. The electrical fit-out and testing had to be done and staff were still being trained to operate the wheel and act as guides on the ride.

An official opening is planned where some guests will be treated to the VIP cabin, which is expected to become popular for marriage proposals and birthday celebrations.

“It’s more exclusive — it carries only four passengers and has leather upholstery,” Mr Todd said.

“In the UK there is a food and beverage package to go with it and we’re looking at how we can duplicate that here, but we have a fair bit of work to do to get a liquor licence.”

The company was negotiating with the organisers of Skyworks to take part in the annual Australia Day celebrations.

“We’re very keen to offer a special Skyworks experience because it’s called the Wheel of Perth, it’s meant to be a wheel for the people and we’re hoping to make it as accessible as possible,” Mr Todd said.

The wheel will stand between Mounts Bay Road and Barrack Square for two years. Mr Todd said it would initially operate between 10am and 10pm but hours would change according to demand.

Rides will cost $15 for adults, $10 for children aged four to 12 and $3 for children aged two to three.

DANIEL HATCH

[urbanwriter]

Does 278 tonnes seem like a lot to everyone else? I know that's full loaded with passengers but I was thinking about it after we went to print last night going "shit, I hope that's right, it seems like a lot".
Where do you think the weight it? I didn't question it yesterday because I didn't think about it until later.

[acc521]

Aren't CoP leasing the land out at $1 a year? I guess there needs to be a notional figure for tax or accounting purposes.

CoP will benefit for every person the wheel brings into the city who spends a bit of cash in the city itself who might of otherwise gone somewhere else like Hillarys or Freo for example.

I know you don't do the headlines Hatchy but "Giant" wheel? Maybe Giant refers to the weight :lol:

[jackso]

Youre right, CoP are leasing for $1 a year.

[PerthSM]

Why are they doing that...?

I wish they'd lease land to me for $1 a year!

[urbanwriter]

I know you don't do the headlines Hatchy but "Giant" wheel? Maybe Giant refers to the weight :lol:

I KNOW!!! I laughed my box off this morning when I saw that. And told the newsroom I was worried we'd get done for breaching the Trades Practices Act. lol

[desperaterobots]

But what will it look like at night? If it ain't covered in programmable LEDS, me and the giant wheel will be having talks.