Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Province - Compiled Threads

[Dinho]

^^ the name is already recognized by real estate devlopers and business leaders... that's why they named the Rob in front of the airport as ... : Robinson's Metro bacolod and Silay airport is named as the New Bacolod airport... :colgate:

How is Robinson's Metro and Lopue's South Square doing? Do you know anything about what happened with the supercats between Bacolod and Iloilo. Daily Star mentioned that they pulled out. Is this true?

[kyle@1008]

^^ robinson's metro is turning into an offcie building .... Generali Pilipinas and some call centers are putting their offices there.... Lopue's south is more of a sports center than a shopping complex.... as for supercat, I don't know... I'm not sure bout that, the last time I travelled to Iloilo was last year pa...

[Dinho]

From the Center
with Rolly Espina

A cure for 'oil addiction'

The recent call of US President George Bush to be less dependent on oil and instead look for alternative fuels has elated our own solons, particularly Bukidnon Rep. Juan Miguel Zubiri, the principal proponent of our own ethanol bill.

Zubiri issued a statement calling on the Senate to prioritize the bill that had been given the nod by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo herself but which has taken a backseat as our Senate has been more engrossed in probing scandals like misuse of government funds.

Zubiri is acting on sentiments prevailing in the Senate, many of whom have no love lost for President Arroyo, maybe because of the Cha-cha endorsements. "If they won't listen to their own president, maybe they would like to listen to the American one," he said.

Indeed, if nations like the US are already concerned about the dwindling oil supply in the country, ours should start acting now since we have the resources to push for ethanol production in this country.

And Zubiri is right in his view that the signal from Bush should be a "cue for our senators to work on the bill now."

More so now with the possibility of US embargo against Iran because, according to the young congressman, "one in every four barrels of oil that enter our country comes from Iran and if there's an embargo we will have a hard time finding a substitute."

Zubiri's bill aims to jumpstart through the grant of tax and financing incentives a "national biofuels program" aimed at replacing within four years a tenth of national gasoline consumption with a "VAT-free cheap clean gas" produced from the likes of cane and coconut.

The bill provides for the "mandatory blending of gasoline with five percent bioethanol" within two years after the approval of the law.

This will lead to annual foreign exchange savings of P40 billion, Zubiri said, basing his estimate on the country's daily consumption of 320 thousand barrels of oil, at $65 a piece, using a P53 to US$1 exchange rate.

I hope the Senate heeds the call of Zubiri before it's too late and we find ourselves lagging behind other countries again.


I hope Zubiri will be successful. It'll mean that I will either have to buy a new car or replace the engine onmy current car if it happens. It'll be good for our province and city especially if we start building plants for the processing of these fuels.

[kyle@1008]

^^ the bill has been passed... an ethanol plant is already being built in San carlos to be completed by 2007.... two others in negros Occidental are planned...

[Dinho]

^^ the bill has been passed... an ethanol plant is already being built in San carlos to be completed by 2007.... two others in negros Occidental are planned...

That's great. With the dwindling oil resources here in the Middle East, Negros could recover quickly.

[daks2003]

im not sure if this was posted or discussed here already but this news was from 2004, could anyone shed a light on this...maybe sugarboy knows why this project didnt push thru in negros...some people are saying that this project is scaring the top man of the SRA so much, he's putting effort to block this project to push through...could this be the reason why the chan family opted to put up the project in passi city?


GMA hails proposed plan to set up P1.6-B sugar central in Negros Occidental

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s today hailed the proposed construction of a state-of-the-art, P1.6-billion sugar refinery project in Negros Occidental province which will boost her job generation and investment attraction programs geared at helping turn around the national economy and improve the people’s quality of life.

Ms. Teresa Chan called on the President in Malacanang this afternoon and showed to the President the blueprint of the proposed P1.6 billion Central Azucarera de San Antonio that their family plans to put up in Negros Occidental.

Ms. Chan, sister of the famous singer-composer Jose Mari Chan, was accompanied by Senate President Franklin Drilon who hails from Iloilo, in the visit to the Palace.

Mrs. Macapagal-Arroyo, who has just arrived from a short visit to Iloilo and Bacolod City, received them at the Music Room of Malacanang.

"Our family will be investing P1.6 billion fresh capital and we will be creating employment opportunities in line with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s program to create jobs," Ms. Chan said.

"We will be having right away about 8,000 new jobs created," Ms. Chan said. This sits well with the President’s priority agenda of creating one million jobs a year over the next six years if given a fresh mandate by the people.

Ms. Chan said the proposed sugar central would be equipped with a sophisticated filtering system, capable of high extraction rate of sugar, and environment-friendly. The facility is expected to be operational next year.

Early on, the President drew up a road map with the representatives of the sugar sector for the recovery of the sugar industry. The strategy boosted the domestic production and improved its prices in the world market to the benefit of some five million Filipinos dependent on the sugar industry.

[Dinho]

im not sure if this was posted or discussed here already but this news was from 2004, could anyone shed a light on this...maybe sugarboy knows why this project didnt push thru in negros...some people are saying that this project is scaring the top man of the SRA so much, he's putting effort to block this project to push through...could this be the reason why the chan family opted to put up the project in passi city?


GMA hails proposed plan to set up P1.6-B sugar central in Negros Occidental

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s today hailed the proposed construction of a state-of-the-art, P1.6-billion sugar refinery project in Negros Occidental province which will boost her job generation and investment attraction programs geared at helping turn around the national economy and improve the people’s quality of life.

Ms. Teresa Chan called on the President in Malacanang this afternoon and showed to the President the blueprint of the proposed P1.6 billion Central Azucarera de San Antonio that their family plans to put up in Negros Occidental.

Ms. Chan, sister of the famous singer-composer Jose Mari Chan, was accompanied by Senate President Franklin Drilon who hails from Iloilo, in the visit to the Palace.

Mrs. Macapagal-Arroyo, who has just arrived from a short visit to Iloilo and Bacolod City, received them at the Music Room of Malacanang.

"Our family will be investing P1.6 billion fresh capital and we will be creating employment opportunities in line with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s program to create jobs," Ms. Chan said.

"We will be having right away about 8,000 new jobs created," Ms. Chan said. This sits well with the President’s priority agenda of creating one million jobs a year over the next six years if given a fresh mandate by the people.

Ms. Chan said the proposed sugar central would be equipped with a sophisticated filtering system, capable of high extraction rate of sugar, and environment-friendly. The facility is expected to be operational next year.

Early on, the President drew up a road map with the representatives of the sugar sector for the recovery of the sugar industry. The strategy boosted the domestic production and improved its prices in the world market to the benefit of some five million Filipinos dependent on the sugar industry.

You here to make us feel bad? I wouldn't be surprised that they built it in Passi. They might have approached the Pres. only to kiss up knowing that the president has strong ties to Negros Occidental. But since they are from Iloilo, why would they build it here? Of course they would only have it in their heart to help their own place.

[daks2003]

Whats wrong with my question? You gonna accuse me of instigating trouble here? You have a serious insecurity problem my friend.

If i will follow your analogy....since the Chans are from Iloilo, they must put up businesses in Iloilo. The last time i checked, Binalbagan,Isabela, and Bais are still part of Negros Occidental.

Didnt you remember that the chans also owns Binalbagan-Isabela Sugar Company and Central Azucarera de Bais?

Anyway, I asked this question because this sugar central project is best suited for negros than iloilo. Sugar is the core economy of negros and its just fitting that this project should have fitted well in the economic set up of Negros. It just boogles my mind why the project was suddenly transported to passi. Some people are saying that some personalities in the SRA are opposing this project to push through in negros. Thats why im asking if this is the reason why the chans opted to put up the project in passi.

You here to make us feel bad? I wouldn't be surprised that they built it in Passi. They might have approached the Pres. only to kiss up knowing that the president has strong ties to Negros Occidental. But since they are from Iloilo, why would they build it here? Of course they would only have it in their heart to help their own place.

[sugarboy]

the people in the SRA are just the scapegoat. there are other entities who will push much harder to oppose this. without naming names, we all have to realize that there are a few mills in negros which spent so much for rehabilitation and they have hardly recovered whatever was invested. hence, news of a new mill scares them sh__less.

planters will not oppose this as this may increase their efficiency in terms of turn-around time, extraction, and planter benefits.

i think it's as simple as that.

[ramvingar]

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those are referred to as ventanillas.... small windows with intricate designs, like the one above the doorposts.... they are placed to facilitate airflows between room and temperature could be adjusted by sliding panels that could shut down rooms,... and usually they are found on the second level,.. 1st level is reserved for the kitchen and cuadra.... the reason for these is to catch cooler breezes from the top,... that's why dining rooms and the larger ante-sala are often on the second level as well......

aside from that all the bedrooms are often interconnected by doors,... like one giant maze....



Great Kyle! thanks for that! They should use that even for modern houses now. It is a very smart idea. Don't know why no one has thought of using it now. I probably will if ever I build a house in the Phils.

[sugarboy]

THE MEN OF THE SUGAR INDUSTRY. MYTH AND POWER
(second part continued)


MARCOS AND MARTIAL LAW: THE YEARS OF BETRAYAL

As previously mentioned in the text (click here for the first part) (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=311875&page=2&pp=20) , the betrayal of sugar interests was effected by Marcos even though the bloc had played a large part in putting him within reach of the presidency. Lopez admitted that he could really have been a potential standard bearer against Marcos. In fact, Lopez was a presidential nominee of the Nacionalista party in 1965, "but the 'sugar bloc' abandoned me....they (the bloc) thought the only one who could defeat Macapagal was Marcos. So they were able to get what they wanted”. Lopez added, "That is why in the convention, I got only third place. First, it was Marcos, then Pelaez, and I”. Nanding confessed that he only agreed to be the running mate of Marcos because of Imelda's emotional blackmail. The former First Lady sought him out at his suite in the Manila Hotel at an unholy hour and remained inconsolable until he pledged his candidacy.

Lopez proceeded to dissect the character of Marcos: "... if not for the sugar bloc, (Marcos) would not have won. You know, the most ungrateful man that you could see is Marcos. The first thing that he did when he was already powerful (was) to go against (me and) my brother."

With the declaration of Martial Law in September 1972, Marcos effectively shifted the balance of power in his favor. In particular, sugar industry leaders, generally identified with the opposition in the mid-1960s, were left without a power base once the Philippine Congress closed.

The strong individualism of the sugar elites proved to be their undoing under the Marcos regime. For Marcos, the strong man, capitalized on the "crab mentality" of the Negrenses as described by Ledesma, to hack at the base of their political power. Ironically, he used one of their own kind, albeit a small landowner on whom he vested unlimited power, to bring the country's and premier primary industry under his control.

Under Roberto S. Benedicto's adroit maneuvering the economic climate of the 1970s allowed Marcos's deadly blow on the political clout of the sugar elites to hit the mark. During the 1970s, the sugar industry faced the most severe crisis since its establishment. Specifically, in 1974 after five decades of favored standing at the American domestic market, the Philippines lost its choice US quota. Prior to the expiration in 1974 of the Laurel-Langley Trade Agreement, the United States absorbed almost all of Philippine sugar exports. While the United States remained the single largest destination of Philippine sugar exports, in the succeeding years its share declined drastically.

Pampered for nearly half a century by its privileged status among all Philippine agricultural industries-most importantly, easy loans from the government-owned Philippine National Bank - the Philippine sugar industry was utterly unprepared for its entry into the world market. Beset with an inefficient production system with one of the highest costs of production among the world's sugar producers, the industry buckled under world pressures in the '70s. Sugar producers were caught in the vise of the spiralling prices of oil and other production inputs, and the plummeting of sugar prices (Sugarland 1977, 26-7). From a historic high of 67 cents per pound in 1974, the price of sugar dived to as low as 7 cents per pound in 1975, because of world market price movements. It was at this point of economic collapse that Marcos through Benedicto nationalized the sugar export trade, and imposed a heavy production tax on the planters. As a further political maneuver, Marcos endorsed the sugar cane workers' demands for increased wages.

Pressed doubly by the political pressures from the center and the rapidly declining income, the "sugar bloc" readily disintegrated, and the planter politico-elites of old became mum and obeisant under Marcos's Martial Law regime (cf. Montelibano interview 1986). This notwithstanding the systematic plunder of their earnings through the National Sugar Trading Corporation controlled by Marcos through Roberto Benedicto. Interestingly, the few planters who dared protest against the punitive measures of Marcos were led by two women - Corazon Zayco and Hortensia Starke. Under their leadership, supported by an articulate lawyer, Brick Reyes, a significant minority of aggrieved small and medium scale planters were organized into the New Alliance of Sugarcane Planters (NASP). The NASP became the only organized planters’ voice of opposition against the NASUTRA and the Philippine Sugar Commission (PHILSUCOM) headed by Roberto S. Benedict (cf P.O. Notes and NASP Document File 1983-84). One courageous gentleman who openly criticized the PHILSUCOM and NASUTRA for anomalies and the plunder of the sugar industry was Bago planter Glicerio Javellana. Notwithstanding their kinship relations, Javellana, a cousin of Benedicto, was sued by the latter in a thirty million-peso libel case at the height of the protest against the sugar monopoly in 1983. Five years after the libel case was filed before the Bago City Fiscal's Office, the libel suit was dismissed without any objection, on the part of Benedicto (cf. Visayan Daily Star, March 17,1989).

Marcos's coup-de-grace against the Negrenses was the partitioning of the control of the province among three of his strongmen - Armando Gustilo in the north, Roberto Benedicto and Eduardo Cojuangco in the south. To seal this distribution of the provincial political spoils, Marcos went to the extent of decreeing the division, of the province into Negros del Norte and Negros Occidental. It must be pointed out, however, that for Cojuangco, the authority vested to control the south-central regions of Negros Occidental was primarily in terms of land acquisition and consolidation.

In a short span of time from the early 1980s through 1985, Eduardo Cojuangco, Jr. and Sons Agricultural Enterprises acquired a total of 5,024.94 hectares of prime agricultural land Himamaylan, San Enrique, Pontevedra, La Carlota, Isabela, m, I La Castellana (cf. SRC-HSF Survey 1985, and DAR Negros Occidental records of sequestered lands 1989). Apart from inherited landholdings, Benedicto further enlarged his holding, as much as 1,311 hectares through his corporations' aggressive buy plan of forecloseable and foreclosed lands.

[ramvingar]

Thanks for that sugarboy. It is a pity that an actual president would be willing to sabotage an entire industry just for the sake of politics. I have a question though. How did the Phils lose its US quota in 1974? Was it because the USA started favoring Central and South American growers? There was a also a mention of a drop in sugar prices all over the world. What was the cause of that?

I suppose that it was not only Marcos to blame though. There was a mention of high production costs too, as well as the oil crisis of the 1970's. Am I correct in understanding that worldwide sugar prices also dropped? What was the reason for that?

I was able to see that Cojuangco property while in Negros. It's Charlie Cojuangco who owns or at least runs it now, right? It really is a huge tract of land. Literally goes on as far as the eyes can see.

*I just realized that I asked so many questions in this post. Sorry about that :)

[sugarboy]

Thanks for that sugarboy. It is a pity that an actual president would be willing to sabotage an entire industry just for the sake of politics. I have a question though. How did the Phils lose its US quota in 1974? Was it because the USA started favoring Central and South American growers? There was a also a mention of a drop in sugar prices all over the world. What was the cause of that?

I suppose that it was not only Marcos to blame though. There was a mention of high production costs too, as well as the oil crisis of the 1970's. Am I correct in understanding that worldwide sugar prices also dropped? What was the reason for that?

I was able to see that Cojuangco property while in Negros. It's Charlie Cojuangco who owns or at least runs it now, right? It really is a huge tract of land. Literally goes on as far as the eyes can see.

*I just realized that I asked so many questions in this post. Sorry about that :)


It'll take quite some time to expound on that but offhand, the loss of the sugar quota was mainly pegged on the expiration of various agreements under what is known as the U.S. Sugar Acts, beginning with the Jones-Costigan Act of 1934, which enacted the sugar quota system. Through the years, amendments were made as a product of the Bell Trade Act (or the Philippine Trade Act) and the Laurel-Langley Agreement as seen in the history books. There were set timetables for these but again, these timelines had to be adjusted because of World War II. Furthermore, we must bear in mind that it was during the middle of the century that the Philippines was in transition from a Commonwealth government to an independent country. By this, tarrifs were gradually imposed on our sugar exports as we began to be fully identified as an independent nation.

Simply put, there was a set timetable for the "mutual free trade" enjoyed by the 2 countries. The sugar quota was to expire even sooner and in fact was merely extended to 1974.

Lesson learned, I think the sugarmen should have prepared more intensely for these eventualities. The writing was on the wall so to speak. They should have prepared for all these eventualities way earlier. The fact that the sugar quota was extended to 1974 (through the amendments) even gave everyone a greater grace period to do the necessary adjustments. The sad thing is that everyone was so complacent thinking that all these would be renewed. There was also the complacency in thinking that since the US would never buy sugar from Cuba/Fidel Castro, we would be perfectly fine. History tells us otherwise.

To date, our efficiency is way below other sugar producing nations. The problem lies in the fact that during the boom years, little money was reinvested into upgrading the mills etc.

More for the other questions at another time but at least it gives you an idea of all the factors involved and the powerplay behind the scenes. That's why they call it Sugar Politics. :)

[ramvingar]

It'll take quite some time to expound on that but offhand, the loss of the sugar quota was mainly pegged on the expiration of various agreements under what is known as the U.S. Sugar Acts, beginning with the Jones-Costigan Act of 1934, which enacted the sugar quota system. Through the years, amendments were made as a product of the Bell Trade Act (or the Philippine Trade Act) and the Laurel-Langley Agreement as seen in the history books. There were set timetables for these but again, these timelines had to be adjusted because of World War II. Furthermore, we must bear in mind that it was during the middle of the century that the Philippines was in transition from a Commonwealth government to an independent country. By this, tarrifs were gradually imposed on our sugar exports as we began to be fully identified as an independent nation.

Simply put, there was a set timetable for the "mutual free trade" enjoyed by the 2 countries. The sugar quota was to expire even sooner and in fact was merely extended to 1974.

Lesson learned, I think the sugarmen should have prepared more intensely for these eventualities. The writing was on the wall so to speak. They should have prepared for all these eventualities way earlier. The fact that the sugar quota was extended to 1974 (through the amendments) even gave everyone a greater grace period to do the necessary adjustments. The sad thing is that everyone was so complacent thinking that all these would be renewed. There was also the complacency in thinking that since the US would never buy sugar from Cuba/Fidel Castro, we would be perfectly fine. History tells us otherwise.

To date, our efficiency is way below other sugar producing nations. The problem lies in the fact that during the boom years, little money was reinvested into upgrading the mills etc.

More for the other questions at another time but at least it gives you an idea of all the factors involved and the powerplay behind the scenes. That's why they call it Sugar Politics. :)

I was thinking that as I was reading the first part of the post.

Thank you Sugarboy for having the patience and generosity to answer my questions. :)

[sugarboy]

You're welcome ram. Gotta go for now. Have to bring my daughter to school.

[ramvingar]

Bye sugarboy! :wave: Drive safely!

[daks2003]

thanks sugarboy!


the people in the SRA are just the scapegoat. there are other entities who will push much harder to oppose this. without naming names, we all have to realize that there are a few mills in negros which spent so much for rehabilitation and they have hardly recovered whatever was invested. hence, news of a new mill scares them sh__less.

planters will not oppose this as this may increase their efficiency in terms of turn-around time, extraction, and planter benefits.

i think it's as simple as that.

[jayzee25]

^^ robinson's metro is turning into an offcie building .... Generali Pilipinas and some call centers are putting their offices there.... Lopue's south is more of a sports center than a shopping complex.... as for supercat, I don't know... I'm not sure bout that, the last time I travelled to Iloilo was last year pa...

is robinsons metro has a department store and a supermart? ireretain pa ba nila kaya after the invasion of call centers?

[Dinho]

is robinsons metro has a department store and a supermart? ireretain pa ba nila kaya after the invasion of call centers?

I think that with the coming of this call centers, Bacolod is ready to build more medium and high rise office buildings. I just hope that Bacolod will be able to provide more good english speaking people. It really is a shame that our government has insisted on having Filipino (Tagalog in disguise) as our national language. Australia, S.Africa, New Zealand, Canada could have insisted on having a different tongue for a national language and yet they haven't. This doesn't diminish their being patriotic in anyway. All of them are progressive countries despite not having so much resources. S. Africans are in demand here in the Gulf region because they speak good English and they come from British accredited schools. Filipinos here can hardly speak good English. I know of only 8 filipinos here out of 100's that I know that can speak fluent English. Good thing that Bacolod's upper class insist on teaching their children english from the very moment the child starts learning how to speak. Men from other parts of the P.I. won't even speak English because they think it would make them look gay if they do.

[TJ]

To me it is indeed so gay and over sa ka sosyalan to speak english in public if your friend could only speak ilongo.. lol

[daks2003]

hehehe u funni mhan! hehehe

To me it is indeed so gay and over sa ka sosyalan to speak english in public if your friend could only speak ilongo.. lol

[c0kelitr0]

To me it is indeed so gay and over sa ka sosyalan to speak english in public if your friend could only speak ilongo.. lol

what's so gay with english???????

[sugarboy]

^^ exactly! what's so gay with english and ilonggo?

i object to the earlier statement and concur with cokelitro for the simple reason that you can quickly switch between ilonggo and english without sounding gay nor "sosyal".

i guess the important thing is that when one speaks english, the ilonggo intonation shouldn't creep over.

[Dinho]

^^ exactly! what's so gay with english and ilonggo?

i object to the earlier statement and concur with cokelitro for the simple reason that you can quickly switch between ilonggo and english without sounding gay nor "sosyal".

i guess the important thing is that when one speaks english, the ilonggo intonation shouldn't creep over.

Good to see you guys here again. I use Ilonggo when speaking with a fellow Ilonggo, or Filipino - if he cannot speak English. I can understand Tagalog, Cebuano, even some Karay-ah but I cannot speak those tongues because I am not used to it. That is why I am saying that our national language should have been a neutral tongue that had some influence on our country. It could either be Espanol or English, but English would have been more beneficial. Good thing we Bacolenos know how to speak and write English well. I think TJ's english is good enough - a lot better than other Filipinos in some other provinces and cities who do not even know the difference between Dessert and desert. We Bacolenos and Negrenses should keep using English for our own benefit.

TJ, please stop thinking of yourself as belonging to the underclass. I do not consider myself as part of the elite of Bacolod but I know that it is important to know how to behave and interact with them. That is part of the culture of Bacolod and Negros. If you know how to behave with people who are in a better position than you are, you will find more opportunities to improve your own situation. If you befriend those people whom you had been criticising, you will find out most are not the snobs you think them to be. They have changed a lot after the 80's when the plight of the people in Negros had been exposed to the world. I know of some hacienderos who are spearheading forays into the poorer areas of the Island to help the people.

[boybleauXx]

Good to see you guys here again. I use Ilonggo when speaking with a fellow Ilonggo, or Filipino - if he cannot speak English. I can understand Tagalog, Cebuano, even some Karay-ah but I cannot speak those tongues because I am not used to it. That is why I am saying that our national language should have been a neutral tongue that had some influence on our country. It could either be Espanol or English, but English would have been more beneficial. Good thing we Bacolenos know how to speak and write English well. I think TJ's english is good enough - a lot better than other Filipinos in some other provinces and cities who do not even know the difference between Dessert and desert. We Bacolenos and Negrenses should keep using English for our own benefit.

TJ, please stop thinking of yourself as belonging to the underclass. I do not consider myself as part of the elite of Bacolod but I know that it is important to know how to behave and interact with them. That is part of the culture of Bacolod and Negros. If you know how to behave people who are in a better position than you are, you will find more opportunities to improve your own situation. If you befriend those people whom you had been criticising, you will find out most are not the snobs you think them to be. They have changed a lot after the 80's when the plight of the people in Negros had been exposed to the world. I know of some hacienderos who are spearheading forays into the poorer areas of the Island to help the people.

.....thats good news....I would really love to hear that the wealth of the land should not end amongst the elite few.....

I believe, but I stand corrected that Negros with Bacolod in particular has an unusual economic demographics.....in fact extremes......there's the very rich elite group....but then there are the very poor. The big distance and disparity in between them is the one that provides the embers of social unrest among the hacienda tillers and workers.

I hope the scenario has changed....and I am glad to hear this news/inputs from you.

because they say....if the wealth of the land is possesed by only those of the influential and elite few......that place is heading for trouble.

[Askal82]

English is gay? Come over to NY and let me see you gettin beating the crap outta ya. :okay:

[sugarboy]

...TJ, please stop thinking of yourself as belonging to the underclass. I do not consider myself as part of the elite of Bacolod but I know that it is important to know how to behave and interact with them. That is part of the culture of Bacolod and Negros. If you know how to behave people who are in a better position than you are, you will find more opportunities to improve your own situation. If you befriend those people whom you had been criticising, you will find out most are not the snobs you think them to be. They have changed a lot after the 80's when the plight of the people in Negros had been exposed to the world. I know of some hacienderos who are spearheading forays into the poorer areas of the Island to help the people.

I wish to add that there are many other people from the upper class who did not have to go through the humbling experience of the 80's sugar crisis in order to be kinder to ordinary folk. They were already good natured to begin with.

Ever heard of the term "bueno"? There are so many Bacolenos who fall under this category. Which is why Bacolenos are really known for their warmth and hospitality. I guess it's just that our human nature tends to highlight the wrongdoings of people rather than see their better traits. For this reason, what sticks to our minds are images of hot-tempered, Spanish type hacenderos who supposedly kick or slap their farmworkers. We hardly see these types nowadays. More often, these are just figments of our imagination after watching too much FPJ films where he gets beat up many times prior to avenging the brutality inflicted on him.

I'll tell you what is more oppressive than that..and this is reality: without trying to demean our Chinese friends in this forum, so many Chinoy businessmen underpay their maids and houseboys, having them double as househelps by night and factory workers or storekeepers by day.

[TJ]

English is gay? Come over to NY and let me see you gettin beating the crap outta ya. :okay:

your so gay... waaah!!!

[Askal82]

Read below:

[Askal82]

Yeah and you're flaming.

[TJ]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah and you're flaming.

[Dinho]

I wish to add that there are many other people from the upper class who did not have to go through the humbling experience of the 80's sugar crisis in order to be kinder to ordinary folk. They were already good natured to begin with.

Ever heard of the term "bueno"? There are so many Bacolenos who fall under this category. Which is why Bacolenos are really known for their warmth and hospitality. I guess it's just that our human nature tends to highlight the wrongdoings of people rather than see their better traits. For this reason, what sticks to our minds are images of hot-tempered, Spanish type hacenderos who supposedly kick or slap their farmworkers. We hardly see these types nowadays. More often, these are just figments of our imagination after watching too much FPJ films where he gets beat up many times prior to avenging the brutality inflicted on him.

I'll tell you what is more oppressive than that..and this is reality: without trying to demean our Chinese friends in this forum, so many Chinoy businessmen underpay their maids and houseboys, having them double as househelps by night and factory workers or storekeepers by day.

You are right Sugarboy. I know that there are a lot of good people from the Negrense upperclass. I've met them and some are even my friends. The problem these days is really with the Chinese-Filipino group. There are some good Chinese-Filipinos especially among the Christians. Just as there are some good Spanish HAcienderos before.

But majority of this group is so greedy. They have dozens of cars in their garage and yet their employees could hardly afford motorbikes. It is a good thing that their homeland is not yet a true superpower. Imagine a world full of greedy chinese businessmen.

Filipinos would not have a chance to improve their lot by working outside the country if the chinese were the superpower instead of the USA and the UK. The policies of the host countries would be radically different and unfair to expatriates if not for the influence of Americans and the Brits. China would never have cared for the welfare of the people. They even use their own people as cheap labourers just to get their own industrial power going.That is why I admire and respect the Americans and Brits. They respect their employees well. They pay their employees well because they find it embarrassing if their employees do not live well. Of course, there are some greedy Americans too, but most are not.

[Dinho]

Daily Star - 14 Feb. 2006

Bacolod wins AIM award

Bacolod, Batangas, Iligan, Iloilo and San Fernando-Pampanga cities topped the 2005 survey conducted by the Asian Institute of Management, in cooperation with the USAID, the Asia Foundation and the German Technical Cooperation during the awarding rites held at the Grand Ballroom of the International Hotel in Makati City yesterday.

Bacolod City Mayor Evelio Leonardia received the plaque of recognition from AIM president Roberto de Ocampo at the ceremonies for the Philippine Cities Competitiveness Ranking Project 2005 awards. Assisting de Ocampo were USAID Mission Director Jon Lindborg, Asia Foundation County Representative Steve Rood, and German Technical Cooperation Program Manager Martina Vahlaus.

Bacolod ranked Number One in the areas of Quality of life and Infrastructure. Other criteria were: Cost of Doing Business, Human Resource and Training, Responsiveness of Local Governance, Dynamism of Local Economy and Linkages to Major Urban and Growth Centers.

Guest speaker was Senator Francis Pangilinan. Present at the rites were members of the diplomatic corps, local government officials, businessmen, executives and representatives of the academe. "The results of the survey and this recognition by these prestigious institutions validate our claim that indeed Bacolod is 'back on track'" Leonardia said after accepting the award.

"This should serve as our source of inspiration and guidance to continue moving our city towards progress and prosperity," he also said, adding "This will also remind our city officials that if we work together, we can go a long, long way. Most of all, I salute the people of Bacolod who are responsible for putting Bacolod where it is today", he said.*

[Dinho]

Daily Star - Saturday, February 11, 2006

SP sets Feb. 15 hearing
on site of new city hall

A public hearing on the proposed new City Hall site will be held by the Bacolod Sangguniang Panlungsod Feb. 15 at 3 p.m. at the Liga ng mga Barangay Hall in Bacolod City.

Bacolod Mayor Evelio Leonardia said he will hold a caucus next week with the SP members and, after the first meeting, they could zero in on which proposals to focus on.

"We have to consider the time frame since out term of office is until 2007," he said. "If we do not start this year, we might have difficulty pursuing our plans especially because prices of materials are increasing," he added.

Leonardia said he was informed by Talisay Mayor Eric Saratan that Iloilo Mayor Jerry Treñas has sent a team to visit their city hall because Iloilo is now considering putting up a new government center. "If we cannot put our acts together, Iloilo might be able to put up a new city hall ahead of Bacolod and we do not want that to happen," he said.

Leonardia said he is encouraging a build-operate-transfer scheme for other big projects of the city, like the bus terminal, slaughterhouse and other projects, which can generate income. If the city has to obtain a loan, it should only be used for the new city hall, he said. The new city hall is a project that will last for centuries and is something that can be considered a gift to the people because they deserve it, he added.

The SP has set the final deadline for all offers for a new city hall site for Bacolod on Monday.*CGS

[Dinho]

Saturday, February 11, 2006

Purchase of airport site
in Kabankalan set: Zayco
BY CARLA GOMEZ

The Kabankalan City government is preparing to buy a 60-hectare property in Barangay Hilamonan, Kabankalan, as the site of an airport estimated to cost P200 million, Acting Negros Occidental Gov. Isidro Zayco said yesterday.

He said the sugarland to be purchased at Voluntary Offer to Sell rates is expected to cost about P12 million.

The 60-hectare property belongs to about 25 owners who have agreed to sell and a meeting is set between them and Mayor Pedro Zayco Wednesday, Zayco said.

The survey of the land to be purchased has already been completed so the landowners will be informed of what is to be purchased from them, he said.

The site is located on a plateau so it will be flood free, Zayco added.

The building of the airport, which location and design has been approved by the Air Transportation Office, is expected to take three years, Zayco said.

The new airport, that will initially allow the landing of small aircraft, is expected to boost tourism and economic activity in southern Negros, he said.

The new airport will enable faster transport of tourists and cargo in and out of southern Negros, Zayco said.

The ATO, our consultant, said they will be the ones to eventually look for the flights, he added.

Gov. Joseph Marañon has committed a counterpart fund for the project, Zayco said.*CPG

[Dinho]

Daily Star- Saturday, February 11, 2006


Schools vow to strengthen
workforce for IT companies
ITS-NET unanimously supported Tuesday the move of the Bacolod City IT Focus Team to fully expand the manpower supply required by existing and future IT-related service companies, such as call centers and medical transcription firms.

Meanwhile, educational institutions in Negros Occidental and Bacolod City belonging to the Information Technology Schools Network have vowed to strengthen the local workforce for IT locators.

Councilor Jocelle Batapa-Sigue, chairperson of the IT Focus Team, said ITS-NET committed to share modules and curriculum with all schools to improve the foundation of graduates in written and oral English as well as computer skills, collate data on all qualified graduates and students in the schools level and submit these to the IT Team.

She said this shows that the academic environment is ready for the influx of call center manpower requirements.

She said that the Sangguniang Panlungsod passed a resolution yesterday favorably endorsing the application of Lopue's East IT Centre in Brgy. Villamonte for registration as an IT park with the Philippine Economic Zone Authority. This brings the number of IT parks endorsed by the SP to three, to include the Bacolod City IT Park in Brgy. Estefania, The Block, also in Brgy. Villamonte and the Robinsons Metro Bacolod building at Araneta Street.*CGS

[blueguy]

How is Robinson's Metro and Lopue's South Square doing? Do you know anything about what happened with the supercats between Bacolod and Iloilo. Daily Star mentioned that they pulled out. Is this true?

Well din, according to my brother who works there at the Bacolod Airport.. The Palancas who owned Bredco (?) did not allow supercat to operate at the pier anymore due to unpaid rents. And also supercat has huge overhead expenses.

And also if I may ask... Do you have any idea if the city government has existing traffic ordinance, banning provincial jeepneys from entering the city? Specifically the reclamation area?

[Dinho]

Well din, according to my brother who works there at the Bacolod Airport.. The Palancas who owned Bredco (?) did not allow supercat to operate at the pier anymore due to unpaid rents. And also supercat has huge overhead expenses.

And also if I may ask... Do you have any idea if the city government has existing traffic ordinance, banning provincial jeepneys from entering the city? Specifically the reclamation area?

Dunno, I could actually count the number of times I've ridden a jeepney in Bacolod since grade 1. Its 6 times. That is why I don't know much about the public transport system and routing in Bacolod. But I think they have banned Provincial Jeepney from entering downtown Bacolod. There are not much provincial jeepneys to speak of in Negros Occidental anyway because of the presence of the sleek Ceres buses that take the commuters to the various towns and cities of Negros Island. So I guess, SM will have to take that into account too. I don't think SM will be able to have decent sized provincial bus terminal in their premises at all. too few jeepneys and very big buses would be difficult to deal with and it won't probably be cost effective with the need for more space for big buses and the low volume of jeepney passengers. I know Iloilo has lots of these jeepneys because of the lack of good buses in that province. I think the same thing applies to Cebu too. I noticed that the only good buses on that island about two years ago were the ones that came from Negros Island.

[TJ]

Dunno, I could actually count the number of times I've ridden a jeepney in Bacolod since grade 1. Its 6 times. That is why I don't know much about the public transport system and routing in Bacolod.

Dinho, siguro isang kang principe.. lol

[sugarboy]

Dinho, siguro isang kang principe.. lol

Amo gani. You mean to tell me Dinho that all the time you were in LCC you were always riding a car? Just wondering. :)

[kyle@1008]

..... Hi.... teleperformance will be renting a portion of BCPH for it's offices and robinson's metro will host teletech... IO asia will be in Villa angela... don't know for the rest... ma enter pa daw Syke's Asia and Convergys,.. but no premises yet... TC... :colgate:

[Dinho]

Amo gani. You mean to tell me Dinho that all the time you were in LCC you were always riding a car? Just wondering. :)

TJ, a lot of students nowadays have cars for their own personal use. Some were given a personal car by their parents. Others are just using their dad's car because the dad is working outside the country. It does not mean that they are rich or that they belong to the elite. You could get good old cars for as low as Php 50,000 these days.

A lot of Negrense kids have personal cars too, just check out the parking lot of USLS and the parking spaces in front of LCC-Main and LCC-Architecture. At USLS, they even had to segregate the staff parking zone and guard it because the students don't have enough parking space. My dad had to get me one because I was responsible for a lot of things whenever he left the country for a couple of months. I also had asthma, so I could not take the jeepney because the smoke and exhausts from other vehicles triggers an attack.

I had late onset asthma. Started in Iloilo. I often rode the jeepneys in Iloilo because we didn't have a driver there when I was in High School. Mom wanted us to experience the tough life. I even rode on the jeepney's bumper often because there are never enough jeepneys in Iloilo. I think that going to downtown Iloilo too often in Jeepneys was what caused my asthma. By the time I went back to Bacolod for college, I could no longer expose myself to too much fumes. And why ride jeepneys when there were extra vehicles at home?

[Dinho]

..... Hi.... teleperformance will be renting a portion of BCPH for it's offices and robinson's metro will host teletech... IO asia will be in Villa angela... don't know for the rest... ma enter pa daw Syke's Asia and Convergys,.. but no premises yet... TC... :colgate:

Which portions of BCPH? I hope that you mean only the ground floor area where the SM supermarket was located before.

[MarkiiBoi]

Philippine Cities Competitiveness Ranking Project (PCCRP) 2005:
[Alphabetical Order]

Metro: Davao, Las Piñas, Makati, Marikina, and Muntinlupa

Mid-size: Bacolod, Batangas, Iligan, Iloilo, and San Fernando, Pampanga

Small: Dagupan, Koronadal, Legaspi, Naga, Olongapo, San Fernando (La Union), Sta. Rosa, Surigao, Tagbilaran, and Tagum

FULL STORY (http://www.aim.edu.ph/home/announcementc.asp?id=721)

[Dinho]

Philippine Cities Competitiveness Ranking Project (PCCRP) 2005:
[Alphabetical Order]

Metro: Davao, Las Piñas, Makati, Marikina, and Muntinlupa

Mid-size: Bacolod, Batangas, Iligan, Iloilo, and San Fernando, Pampanga

Small: Dagupan, Koronadal, Legaspi, Naga, Olongapo, San Fernando (La Union), Sta. Rosa, Surigao, Tagbilaran, and Tagum

FULL STORY (http://www.aim.edu.ph/home/announcementc.asp?id=721)

Thanks for the link! I had been spending hours looking for it yesterday.

[Dinho]

Congratulations to Bacolod and Iloilo for making it to the top 5 medium sized cities in the country.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/pccrpmidcity.jpg

If computed, the ranking would come out this way:

1. Bacolod City
2. Iloilo City
3. Batangas City
4. San Fernando City
5. Iligan City

At least the two major cities of Region 6 got the highest ranking. Bago City, Silay City, and San Carlos City were also considered alongside Roxas City in the Small Cities category despite being only subsidiary cities not like Roxas City, which is a provincial capital.

Bacolod again ranked first in AIM’s 2005 PCCRP survey in the mid sized city category.
The survey was done with the help of the several organizations including the USAID and some of the best universities in the country. Bacolod was able to retain the highest rank in infrastructure and quality of life. For the 2003 PCCRP survey, Bacolod also got the highest rank for “Human Resources and Training” category. The city’s ranking in this category went down and the award was given to Iloilo City which has 3 more universities and probably 30% more colleges.

The city gained the highest ranking in the “Infrastructure Adequacy and Quality” category. This signifies that the city has sufficient physical, technological, and knowledge support services that are required in transacting business such as: road infrastructure, telecommunications, production factors and transport systems. This criterion includes the number of banks, road density, vehicle density, number of internet service providers, well-managed road network and traffic, road clearance during peak hours, reliability of electric power services, abundance of water supply, easy connection of telephone lines from other service providers, adequate cellular phone signals, reliability of internet service providers, and adequate garbage management.

The city also ranked FIRST in the "Quality of Life" category. This criterion which determine the quality of environment and life in the city is based on the incidence of theft per 100,000 population, incidence of murder per 100,000 population, hospital beds per 100,000 population, life expectancy at birth, cleanliness of roads and public open spaces, adequacy of rest and recreational facilities, conduciveness of the security environment to businesses. This category should also consider the availability and quality of residential structures and the capability of the city to provide jobs to its residents. Quality and Availability of Housing is an important consideration because it shows how the populace is living as well as their life style. Employment and job generation is also an important factor in view of the fact that the happiness and contentment of each family hinges on the presence of both parents in families with dependent children. A higher average income in a particular city does not really mean much for the “Quality of Life” if a high percentage of the population is working outside the city since money does not buy happiness.

[ferrersky]

:cucumber: :applause:

Yey!!!! We are the best!!! The best among the rest!!!! And they cannot defeeeeeeaaaaat us!!!!!!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Jimbu]

Congratulations to Bacolod and Iloilo cities.

[sugarboy]

.....And why ride jeepneys when there were extra vehicles at home?

Noted your point of view. I do not share the same sentiment though. I will leave a vehicle at home or wherever and go by public transpo if I feel that it is more practical to do so.

That still holds true even today here in Metro Manila. I have a driver who drives me around in a German car but I will not think twice about leaving him and going on my own if I can go by jeepney or tricycle. It just freaks him out when I call him on his cellphone to pick me up at a certain place and when he asks me how I got there, I tell him, "by jeepney of course". :)

[TJ]

Noted your point of view. I do not share the same sentiment though. I will leave a vehicle at home or wherever and go by public transpo if I feel that it is more practical to do so.

That still holds true even today here in Metro Manila. I have a driver who drives me around in a German car but I will not think twice about leaving him and going on my own if I can go by jeepney or tricycle. It just freaks him out when I call him on his cellphone to pick me up at a certain place and when he asks me how I got there, I tell him, "by jeepney of course". :)

Even though we have an extra car, i still always commute through jeepney when going to school and sometimes i use the scooter coz you can save more money when you do that. lol

I bet most people here are very rich that they even don't understand the value of how much you can save when using the jeepney for commuting.

[sugarboy]

^^ ok gid sa akon mag jeep. bisan pasakyon mo pa ko sa de carga sang tubo ok lang. i will do things in the least conventional ways if it means being practical. i will also make it a point to let my kids learn to use public transpo at the earliest possible time.

[Dinho]

Even though we have an extra car, i still always commute through jeepney when going to school and sometimes i use the scooter coz you can save more money when you do that. lol

I bet most people here are very rich that they even don't understand the value of how much you can save when using the jeepney for commuting.

Maybe that is true with a lot of the rich families in Negros. My asthma prevents me from taking the jeepneys because of the exhaust fumes from other vehicles. Though, our pollution is not as bad as other cities in the Philippines, it could still trigger an attack. I also had responsibilities then. It wouldn't be practical going around in a jeepney when you have to attend classes and attend to business in between breaks. I did take the jeepneys in Iloilo and I still might be able to remember the routes in Iloilo City, but I have to stick to taking cabs these days since the pollution level is too high to risk exposing myself to the exhaust fumes, smoke and othere pollutants for extended periods.

Hey, were supposed to be discussing things about Bacolod here, not about me. Since the topics are about jeepneys, I remember that a couple of years ago there were some airconditioned jeepneys in Bacolod but I guess it turned out to be unprofitable that the owners decided to strip the units.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ buti nga kayo nagjejeep, ako naglalakad LOL. there are days when i don't feel like driving and that i'd rather walk. and i never bring my car on first dates, gusto ko kasi di maarte yung guy...gusto ko malaman if okay ba sa kanya nagjejeep or nagbubus...kung may kotse sya, sinasabi ko, magcocommute na lang muna kami :D and natuturn off ako sa mga guys na di marunong mag-MRT.

[Dinho]

^^ buti nga kayo nagjejeep, ako naglalakad LOL. there are days when i don't feel like driving and that i'd rather walk. and i never bring my car on first dates, gusto ko kasi di maarte yung guy...gusto ko malaman if okay ba sa kanya nagjejeep or nagbubus...kung may kotse sya, sinasabi ko, magcocommute na lang muna kami :D and natuturn off ako sa mga guys na di marunong mag-MRT.

I love to take a walk too... but only inside Windsor or the Lagoon where there is sufficient protection against pollution caused by the jeepneys and other vehicles. Good thing Bacolod does not have Tricycles too because they would have added noise pollution too. If Bacolod had a subway or Loop like Chicago and MAnila, I guess it would be good for a lot of people since they would be shielded from pollution. I myself would take them. But some people will still have to take their cars because a lot of areas would be too far from the terminals.

Don't get me wrong here. Bacolod is not as polluted as the rest of the cities in the country except Subic. It's just that wherever there are cars, you are bound to inhale some of the exhaust they are generating when they pass by.
Bacolod is still a pleasant place. I think that Bacolod really deserves getting the award for Quality of Life because of the presence of good parks, less pollution and less traffic, as well as the availability of jobs in the city.

I noticed on another thread that a lot of hospitals and hospital extensions are being built and proposed. It may sound like good news to some but I think that the continuing need for more hospitals and mental health facilities only signifies that the city and area is starting to become unhealthy. Good thing that Bacolod has no need for bigger hospitals.

[sugarboy]

that's the spirit coke! there was an instance when i freaked out some of my classsmates at LCC (the ones who came from La Salle and St. Scho) by bringing to school a rickety jeep with an open back used to carry fertilizer. we were supposed to go to the beach that day and i promised to bring the transpo having in mind all along this hip vehicle. they initially frowned when we converged at LCC seeing the jeep but they eventually got warm to the idea of riding it with a mix of reluctance and resignation. at the end of it, they thanked me for having one helluva carefree ride :)

[Dinho]

that's the spirit coke! there was an instance when i freaked out some of my classsmates at LCC (the ones who came from La Salle and St. Scho) by bringing to school a rickety jeep with an open back used to carry fertilizer. we were supposed to go to the beach that day and i promised to bring the transpo having in mind all along this hip vehicle. they initially frowned when we converged at LCC seeing the jeep but they eventually got warm to the idea of riding it with a mix of reluctance and resignation. at the end of it, they thanked me for having one helluva carefree ride :)

I also heard that somebody brought a farm tractor because he was tired of competing for having the best car. Is this true?

[sugarboy]

I also heard that somebody brought a farm tractor because he was tired of competing for having the best car. Is this true?

I heard that too. That was long before my time.

[c0kelitr0]

LOL...Sugarboy, i could just imagine their faces! nowadays, it's not very practical to bring cars if you're not going anywhere very far or inaccessible to public transportation.

when i'm in FBGC and i want to go to Makati, i just take a leisurely walk through McKinley...when i'm in ortigas, i just walk from home to the malls...and i take the MRT when i want to go to Makati from there...and i get so many compliments like how nice my legs are, very firm daw :D

[Dinho]

that's the spirit coke! there was an instance when i freaked out some of my classsmates at LCC (the ones who came from La Salle and St. Scho) by bringing to school a rickety jeep with an open back used to carry fertilizer. we were supposed to go to the beach that day and i promised to bring the transpo having in mind all along this hip vehicle. they initially frowned when we converged at LCC seeing the jeep but they eventually got warm to the idea of riding it with a mix of reluctance and resignation. at the end of it, they thanked me for having one helluva carefree ride :)

You also went to LCC? Which course did you take? I wasn't reading the whole message. I just assumed you went to La Salle. Showing off is more of a La Sallian habit though. At LCC, most people would never know you had a car the whole time. I had a female classmate who was rather homely. We thought she was from some middle class family. Nobody ever saw her driving a car for about 3 year up to the time that we were required to go surveying, and researching outside the school. We later found out that she came from one of San Carlos' richest families - after the Ledesma's of course.

[Dinho]

LOL...Sugarboy, i could just imagine their faces! nowadays, it's not very practical to bring cars if you're not going anywhere very far or inaccessible to public transportation.

when i'm in FBGC and i want to go to Makati, i just take a leisurely walk through McKinley...when i'm in ortigas, i just walk from home to the malls...and i take the MRT when i want to go to Makati from there...and i get so many compliments like how nice my legs are, very firm daw :D

ah Coke, we are talking about Bacolod here. In Bacolod, you could still find enough parking spaces to warrant frequent use of your car. Bacolod is not exactly a pedestrian friendly city so it is best to take a car to most places. Downtown is a bit more difficult though. Sometimes, you have to go around thrice to be able to get a parking space. At LCC, I was often late because LCC only has five parking slots for the whole campus.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ LCC ka rin? my grand-aunt studied there...i forgot kung high school sya dun or nung college na...may mga foreign students pa ba dyan sa LCC?

[sugarboy]

You also went to LCC? Which course did you take? I wasn't reading the whole message. I just assumed you went to La Salle. Showing off is more of a La Sallian habit though. At LCC, most people would never know you had a car the whole time. I had a female classmate who was rather homely. We thought she was from some middle class family. Nobody ever saw her driving a car for about 3 year up to the time that we were required to go surveying, and researching outside the school. We later found out that she came from one of San Carlos' richest families - after the Ledesma's of course.

LCC gid lang ko. daw nalipat ka na haw? nastoryahan ta gid lang ni sang una :)

[sugarboy]

ah Coke, we are talking about Bacolod here. In Bacolod, you could still find enough parking spaces to warrant frequent use of your car. Bacolod is not exactly a pedestrian friendly city so it is best to take a car to most places. Downtown is a bit more difficult though. Sometimes, you have to go around thrice to be able to get a parking space. At LCC, I was often late because LCC only has five parking slots for the whole campus.

i'm fine with walking around downtown.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ ako rin dati, tapos kumain ako ng fried chicken na binibenta sa kalye malapit sa gonzaga st. yata yun i forgot LOL...di ko sinabi kay you know kasi baka magalit hehehe.

naabutan nya ako sa downtown nanunuod ng cock fight!! :lol:

[Dinho]

Here is a map of the built up areas of Metro Bacolod. Bacolod does has some problem in the interior portion because from the golf course, you would have to go back to Downtown Bacolod so you can proceed to Granada. Pulupandan and Bago should also be linked directly. A bigger outer circumferential road encompassing San Enrique - La Carlota City, Bacolod, Murcia, Talisay, and Silay will help with the development of the interior portion of the region and cut travel time to Bacolod. This is why it is essential that the Bacolod and the neighboring towns and cities start planning to have a metropolitan development authority. Even Roxas City is planning to create a sort of metropolitan authority though much of their surrounding areas are still a too rural to qualify it as a metropolitan area.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/NORTHMETRObACOLODfinal3b.jpg

[renell]

Righto, guys I've decided to stick another Visayan city and province :) :cheers:

[Dinho]

LCC gid lang ko. daw nalipat ka na haw? nastoryahan ta gid lang ni sang una :)

Sorry, can be so absent minded at times. Having a car while in school can be a disadvantage too because all these other kids would think you have lotsa money. You never know which girls really like you for who you are. I was afraid some of the girls just liked the idea that they are dating somebody who had a car.

[Dinho]

Righto, guys I've decided to stick another Visayan city and province :) :cheers:

Which city is that? Would like to check it out too.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ renell said, sticky na ang bacolod thread :D

[sugarboy]

Sorry, can be so absent minded at times. Having a car while in school can be a disadvantage too because all these other kids would think you have lotsa money. You never know which girls really like you for who you are. I was afraid some of the girls just liked the idea that they are dating somebody who had a car.

what year did you enter LCC if i may ask?

[Dinho]

^^ renell said, sticky na ang bacolod thread :D

So, what he meant to say was he decided TO STICK TO ANOTHER VISAYAN city thread? Uh, well, we are getting a bit boring here with no new pictures of Bacolod and the metropolitan area, as well as other cities. What could we do? the three of us are outside Bacolod right now. I guess we need Kyle here and even TJ too!

But TJ, please be more constructive. Stop bashing your hometown. Sure it has a little less of everything as compared to the regional capital, but hey, they can hardly keep ahead of us.

Sugarboy, I think I started in '96. We were the first batch to use the ugly new ARFIEN building.

[c0kelitr0]

^ :lol:

hindi...he meant to Stick the Thread of another Visayan City...not stick to another visayan city! notice mo ba na may Sticky na nakalagay sa thread na to?

[Dinho]

^ :lol:

hindi...he meant to Stick the Thread of another Visayan City...not stick to another visayan city! notice mo ba na may Sticky na nakalagay sa thread na to?

heheh... forgive me for my ignorance! Didn't get what he meant.

[sugarboy]

....Sugarboy, I think I started in '96. We were the first batch to use the ugly new ARFIEN building.

Naabtan mo pa gali manghod ko. Galing kay pa-graduate na siya at that time.

[Dinho]

Naabtan mo pa gali manghod ko. Galing kay pa-graduate na siya at that time.

I think so. I've heard of your family name mentioned at school several times but I never knew your brother. Been too busy then. Even needed my classmates' help to finish my plates then.

[sugarboy]

I think so. I've heard of your family name mentioned at school several times but I never knew your brother. Been too busy then. Even needed my classmates' help to finish my plates then.
Manghod ko babaye. Fine Arts sila.

[Dinho]

Manghod ko babaye. Fine Arts sila.

Ah, now I remember. Her name sounds like Joy or Jocelyn right? If I may ask, is your whole family with you in MAnila? It's a good thing that I don't have my own family yet because leaving behind family just to earn more bucks is never a good thing. It is good that Bacolod provide decent jobs for its residents an they don't have to leave the country like what most Filipinos from other cities are doing these days. Do you plan to move back to Bacolod? I had been telling a friend who is working at a call center in MAnila that she now has the opportunity to move back to Bacolod because new call centers are opening soon.

It would really be a great boost for our economy if the Negrenses start moving back to Metro Bacolod where they'll be healthier and be able to relax. People like the Cojuancos should seriously consider moving their offices to other major cities in the country to lessen the congestion of Metro Manila and to enable their employees to live better lives in a better work environment.

[TJ]

I graduated in lcc too.. lol batch 2002 hehe

[Dinho]

I graduated in lcc too.. lol batch 2002 hehe

Which course did you take up?

[c0kelitr0]

^^ totoo ba yung pinalabas na listahan ng DepEd ng mga schools na dapat daw isara...nasama yata LCC-Bacolod dun eh...

[TJ]

Which course did you take up?

elementary at H.S. lang ako dun... hehe

[TJ]

Anyone noticed the tall building inside LCC the old canteen is now a big tall building. Im not sure how many storeys coz all i can see is the top of it but maybe 6 - 8 storeys probably.. maybe 6.

Bakit isasara ang LCC sayang naman yung mga building nila... hehe

[Dinho]

^^ totoo ba yung pinalabas na listahan ng DepEd ng mga schools na dapat daw isara...nasama yata LCC-Bacolod dun eh...

What could be their reason for planning to close off LCC? LCC is one of the better Architectural schools in the country and they want it closed! I am starting to grow suspicious of the various government agencies. First, ATO accused Sugarland hotel of going over the height limit (which was later proven wrong), then WNC nursing students were the next target but it is a good thing that it is being resolved now (I am not saying they did not do anything wrong but rather, it seems to be the agency's lapse and they threaten to prevent these students from ever taking the board exam again), and now LCC? Is Manila and the National Government nursing a grudge against Negrenses and the Negrense interest?

[TJ]

What could be their reason for planning to close of LCC? LCC is one of the better Architectural schools in the country and they want it closed. I am starting to grow suspicious of the various government agencies. First, ATO accused Sugarland hotel of going over the height limit (which was later proven wrong), then WNC nursing students were the next target but it is a good thing that it is being resolved now (I am not saying they did not do anything wrong but rather, it seems to be the agency's lapse and they threaten to prevent these students from ever taking the board exam again), and now LCC? Is Manila and the National Government nursing a grudge against Negrenses and the Negrense interest?

Hmmm.. a conspiracy against us you say :) hehe

[sugarboy]

What could be their reason for planning to close off LCC? LCC is one of the better Architectural schools in the country and they want it closed! I am starting to grow suspicious of the various government agencies. First, ATO accused Sugarland hotel of going over the height limit (which was later proven wrong), then WNC nursing students were the next target but it is a good thing that it is being resolved now (I am not saying they did not do anything wrong but rather, it seems to be the agency's lapse and they threaten to prevent these students from ever taking the board exam again), and now LCC? Is Manila and the National Government nursing a grudge against Negrenses and the Negrense interest?

Close LCC? Susginoo! Magagalit sa kanila si Susan Roces! Alma mater din yun ni Da Queen! :lol:

[sugarboy]

Ah, now I remember. Her name sounds like Joy or Jocelyn right? If I may ask, is your whole family with you in MAnila? It's a good thing that I don't have my own family yet because leaving behind family just to earn more bucks is never a good thing. It is good that Bacolod provide decent jobs for its residents an they don't have to leave the country like what most Filipinos from other cities are doing these days. Do you plan to move back to Bacolod? I had been telling a friend who is working at a call center in MAnila that she now has the opportunity to move back to Bacolod because new call centers are opening soon.

It would really be a great boost for our economy if the Negrenses start moving back to Metro Bacolod where they'll be healthier and be able to relax. People like the Cojuancos should seriously consider moving their offices to other major cities in the country to lessen the congestion of Metro Manila and to enable their employees to live better lives in a better work environment.


Si Joyce ang ngalan nya. Kyle even met her twice. She's still in Bacolod while kami ya diri sa Manila.

Not for me for now. No plans of going back and permanently resettle in Bacolod. I would love to start new enterprises there though, but only the type which I could run from Manila.

[sugarboy]

I graduated in lcc too.. lol batch 2002 hehe
diin ka ya subong ga eskwela TJ?

[TJ]

Sa CPAC an adventist college taking up nursing... lol hehe

[Dinho]

Close LCC? Susginoo! Magagalit sa kanila si Susan Roces! Alma mater din yun ni Da Queen! :lol:

Who is she? Is she a senator or Congresswoman? If she could help keep LCC going and even improve the rest of the school, then her help would surely be appreciated.

[c0kelitr0]

Close LCC? Susginoo! Magagalit sa kanila si Susan Roces! Alma mater din yun ni Da Queen! :lol:

ay talaga? dun ba si Da Queen nag-aral? LOL...gosh...i thought she studied abroad...

@Dinho, kilala ko yan si The Queen... ;)

[sugarboy]

Sa CPAC an adventist college taking up nursing... lol hehe

Yes I know CPAC. I know a lot about the land it stands on.

Isn't it hard for you to commute from the south of Bacolod to Murcia?

[TJ]

No the nursing school for cpac is in taculing in the sanitarium hospital compound. Only the other courses are up there in alegria murcia. The school is located nearly halfway up in the mountain very nice but lonely and sad if your a city kid.

[sugarboy]

No the nursing school for cpac is in taculing in the sanitarium hospital compound. Only the other courses are up there in alegria murcia. The school is located nearly halfway up in the mountain very nice but lonely and sad if your a city kid.

If it's in Taculing then it's convenient. I thought you had to go up to Murcia everyday.

[TJ]

Yup it's hard to go up there and if you own a car i suggest don't bring it becoz the is road very very rough. Only SUV's and pick-ups, m-bikes can take the crap out that road. We were stranded in that road several times coz the car could just not take it. lol

[sugarboy]

@TJ can you find out kun tuod gid man that Siliman is planning to have an extension school in the Murcia Campus of CPAC? Would appreciate any feedback on this.

[TJ]

I haven't heard of this, but since siliman is not an adventist school it's probably not true.

[sugarboy]

Well, they don't have to be Adventists. I just heard that they are planning to make that area in Murcia a new University belt or more appropriately, Campus belt of sorts. Palihog abi confirm `migo :)

CPAC doesn't own all the property around that area so definitely the current owners can sell to Siliman, La Salle, or any other educational institution for that matter.

Also, hope you can post more info about CPAC particularly the Murcia Campus. Salamat in advance.

[TJ]

Maybe if they sell it it is possible but siliman within the cpac campus side by side i think not, becoz i know personally that adventists only associate themselves with only adventists and since they are unsecular these matter extends to all things even in buisness. Since Siliman is kinda catholic there is a vague possibility of that to happened but if they sell the land then maybe it is. But why would they sell the land the cpac is doing great the student population is at a record high.

[TJ]

@TJ can you find out kun tuod gid man that Siliman is planning to have an extension school in the Murcia Campus of CPAC? Would appreciate any feedback on this.

Maybe what youre saying is that siliman is planning to make a new University belt beside cpac and not to have it's extension school within the Murcia Campus of CPAC but beside it. Yes it could be if the Extension would be live up to the original siliman standards i bet all the cpac students would transfer there. lol

Cpac is nice too, it has a big swimming pool, to big dormitories, 2 tennis courts, a gym and decent school buildings. But i havent been there in 2 years already nor i heard any news. The only problem there is the damn road from murcia to there.

[sugarboy]

^^ Siliman is not catholic. Anyway, I was not referring to CPAC selling their property to Siliman and allowing Siliman to have an extension campus within their property. CPAC will always be Adventist all throughout. What I wanted to know if whether it was true that Siliman wanted to buy the property next to CPAC in order to create an extension school. Pamati-i abi. That's what I heard. They want to buy the property adjacent to CPAC from the current owners in order to create that new "Campus belt".

Apologies. I did mistype my first statement which read:
@TJ can you find out kun tuod gid man that Siliman is planning to have an extension school in the Murcia Campus of CPAC? Would appreciate any feedback on this.

It should have been:
@TJ can you find out kun tuod gid man that Siliman is planning to have an extension school beside the Murcia Campus of CPAC? Would appreciate any feedback on this.

[TJ]

lol, okay i will find out if it's true. If it is then it's great there will be siliman murica thats niceee.

[sugarboy]

lol, okay i will find out if it's true. If it is then it's great there will be siliman murica thats niceee.

Salamat TJ!

[Dinho]

lol, okay i will find out if it's true. If it is then it's great there will be siliman murica thats niceee.

Wouldn't that be great to have a Silliman University in Metro Bacolod? I wouldn't think it'd be exactly a university belt if there are only two universities there. I know that USLS is planning to transfer its campus to its Granada property. Is there a road going from Granada to Murcia. It would be great if they can link these two communities with a good road so that the future universities would be closer together. TJ, is there any possibility that CPAC could eventually be upgraded into a university? I heard that Doctor's college is applying to get a university status. Couldn't Riverside, WNC, and CSA-Bacolod get upgraded too? They are a lot bigger than most universities in Iloilo.

[makoantz]

I heard that Doctor's college is applying to get a university status. Couldn't Riverside, WNC, and CSA-Bacolod get upgraded too?

CHED has some guidelines and requirements on how a college can apply for a university status, like for example having at least two graduate-level courses leading to doctoral degrees, and should be able to maintain a level III accreditation for at least a minimum number of undergraduate programs it offers. Probably this is one reason most colleges shy away from moving up in status. The size of the college does not necessarily matter as long as the college meet the requirements.

[Dinho]

CHED has some guidelines and requirements on how a college can apply for a university status, like for example having at least two graduate-level courses leading to doctoral degrees, and should be able to maintain a level III accreditation for at least a minimum number of undergraduate programs it offers. Probably this is one reason most colleges shy away from moving up in status. The size of the college does not necessarily matter as long as the college meet the requirements.

Thanks for the info. I guess that is why WNC wasn't able to get an upgrade though they tried almost half a decade ago. They even bought a hospital for that purpose but they had to sell it off later on. I just hope that the Agustin's will be able to get their act together for the improvement of their school and the city's people.

[chymera00]

any recent developments with the new SM City in Bacolod?

[Dinho]

any recent developments with the new SM City in Bacolod?

The only rumor I've heard so far is that SM Prime bought the Sea Breeze hotel so they could have access to the downtown area. It would indeed be very sad if they demolish what is probably the oldest hotel in Bacolod City. If they do that, I think Gaisano would be a more responsible company because they ddin't do that to the unfinished Tatsuo Hotel. The Gaisano's finished the construction of the hotel and renamed it the Grand Regal Hotel Bacolod. Probably the 2nd or 3rd hotel of the group.

[TJ]

If the hotel was in front of gaisano city they would have that hotel demolished. But it is across the street so instead of demolishing they took advantage of it and resumed the half-way built hotel in which they saved a lot of money coz the hotel was already built. But if the hotel was in a way blocking one of their strategic areas no doubt it will demolished. Same with sea breeze it is blocking the access from the downtown area so it will be demolished and the hotel look kinda ugly anyway i hope they built a new one.

[Dinho]

If the hotel was in front of gaisano city they would have that hotel demolished. But it is across the street so instead of demolishing they took advantage of it and resumed the half-way built hotel in which they saved a lot of money coz the hotel was already built. But if the hotel was in a way blocking one of their strategic areas no doubt it will demolished. Same with sea breeze it is blocking the access from the downtown area so it will be demolished and the hotel look kinda ugly anyway i hope they built a new one.

You are right about the Grand Regal Hotel. Good thing they finished it as a hotel instead of using it as an additional commercial building. I heard that the Gaisano's bough most of the land around Gaisano City and that they are just waiting for the airport to get relocated so they can finish the work. Is this true?

I do not think that the SeaBreeze hotel is ugly. Just because it is old doesn't mean it is ugly. If only I had the money to buy the hotel and thoroughly refurbish it, upgrade it, and expand it. I think it'd be a worthwhile investment.

[TJ]

I heard in the radio that there will be two high-rise condo's to be built in the reclamation area near pavilion.

[Dinho]

I heard in the radio that there will be two high-rise condo's to be built in the reclamation area near pavilion.

Saw it on the paper just this morning. It being at the reclaimation area, they should use piling since a reclaimed land suffers a process called liquefaction during an earthquake. The press release said it'll be located near the SM City and it'll have about 56 units in two structures. I reckon it to be about ten storeys... which is still in the medium rise category.

In fact, all building of 2 storeys and above should have piling to ensure safety. The same holds true for Iloilo's swamp lands. I try to avoid Iloilo's Gaisano City because I know that they never used piling. I was living at Iloilo when they started construction. Gaisano City Bacolod is a lot better because it is a low building and a lot better planned.

Another good news is that though teleperformance will be renting part of the BCPH, the hotel itself will continue operating. I think Luxur should really think about building a new structure for this call center on its big parking lot and tennis courts at the back. They should relocate the Tennis courts though and start improving their services.

Hey Kyle, Sugarboy, Coke where are you guys?

[sugarboy]

ari lang ko di. ano balita dira sa imo?

[rustyboi]

I heard in the radio that there will be two high-rise condo's to be built in the reclamation area near pavilion.

that's good to know. is there an existing or proposed business district in bacolod city? something like a business park? is the reclamation area gonna be developed to a multi-zoned property?

by the way, will those condos be the first of its kind in the region? thanks.

[Dinho]

ari lang ko di. ano balita dira sa imo?

Nothing much. You should try take a look at all the construction going on in Qatar. When I arrived here about two years ago, there were roughly 20 high rise offices and 2 high rise condos here. Right now they are building about triple that number at the CBD. Amazing. The current construction Boom in Bacolod and Iloilo seems very puny in comparison to what is going on here.


Good news is that BCPH is not gonna close down and that a call center will be renting some portions of the hotel only.

[sugarboy]

Nothing much. You should try take a look at all the construction going on in Qatar. When I arrived here about two years ago, there were roughly 20 high rise offices and 2 high rise condos here. Right now they are building about triple that number at the CBD. Amazing. The current construction Boom in Bacolod and Iloilo seems very puny in comparison to what is going on here.


Good news is that BCPH is not gonna close down and that a call center will be renting some portions of the hotel only.

Ara ka gali sa Qatar? Ti indi man dira subo?

[Dinho]

that's good to know. is there an existing or proposed business district in bacolod city? something like a business park? is the reclamation area gonna be developed to a multi-zoned property?

by the way, will those condos be the first of its kind in the region? thanks.

There is already a 3 or 4 storey condominium in Bacolod located behind Mayfair Mall on Lacson St. But it will be the first medium rise condominium building in Region 6 I think. Bacolod does have two business parks. One is the Reclaimation Area and the other Active Center which is near Robinson's Place. The roads at Active Center are already in place though the project is stalled due to some problem which I think Sugarboy knows more about.

Another area that would be a good place for CBD would be at the border of Bacolod and Talisay. Ayala is planning to build a Mall there and SM reportedly bought the TASIMICO complex for future development. Uniwide also started a project there but it is stalled because UNIWIDE was severely affected by the ASIAN Economic crisis during the late 90's. The Uniwide development includeda retail area, a big mall (visible in satellite pictures) and a residential area.

You can check out the PAlafox website to see their plans for the Reclaimation Area.

[Dinho]

Ara ka gali sa Qatar? Ti indi man dira subo?

Nope. Not in my case. For most Filipinos, it is but not me. Can hardly get enough rest. I don't have many Filipino friends here though. Most of my friends are from S. Africa, USA, UK, Canada, Nepal, Negros Island and India.

[sugarboy]

Nope. Not in my case. For most Filipinos, it is but not me. Can hardly get enough rest. I don't have many Filipino friends here though. Most of my friends are from S. Africa, USA, UK, Canada, Nepal, Negros Island and India.
Ok. split ko anay kay tagpalanyapon na di. :)

[c0kelitr0]

Hey Kyle, Sugarboy, Coke where are you guys?

sorry, my days off now are wednesdays and thursdays :D

wow...midrise condos in bacolod! these are what TJ has been waiting for all his life! :D

[TJ]

sorry, my days off now are wednesdays and thursdays :D

wow...midrise condos in bacolod! these are what TJ has been waiting for all his life! :D

lol... finalllyyyyy :cucumber:

[kyle@1008]

I'm here ..... alive,.. I've been visiting the SM contruction site... everything's moving well... I think seabreeze would be reconstructed as a new entrance or something...

[TJ]

I'm here ..... alive,.. I've been visiting the SM contruction site... everything's moving well... I think seabreeze would be reconstructed as a new entrance or something...

thats what i said a long long time ago somewhere back in 2005... but some of you would not believe me... :tongue3:

[kyle@1008]

^^ nah just something I thought,.. ooh the demonic trinity as an avatar...

[kyle@1008]

Si Joyce ang ngalan nya. Kyle even met her twice. She's still in Bacolod while kami ya diri sa Manila.

Not for me for now. No plans of going back and permanently resettle in Bacolod. I would love to start new enterprises there though, but only the type which I could run from Manila.

Guwapa!!!! sis niya....:colgate: :banana:

[kyle@1008]

Thanks for the info. I guess that is why WNC wasn't able to get an upgrade though they tried almost half a decade ago. They even bought a hospital for that purpose but they had to sell it off later on. I just hope that the Agustin's will be able to get their act together for the improvement of their school and the city's people.

that family has their own internal problems to take care of first....

[slerz]

sorry, my days off now are wednesdays and thursdays :D

wow...midrise condos in bacolod! these are what TJ has been waiting for all his life! :D

what do you mean by your sig @coke? you will be in Cebu this sept?

[c0kelitr0]

^^ moving to Cebu this september...nagkaka heart attack ako dito manila :D

[sugarboy]

moving as in goodbye manila?

[c0kelitr0]

yup! as in goobye manila! hehehe...that's the plan for now so far :D

[sugarboy]

yup! as in goobye manila! hehehe...that's the plan for now so far :D

di pa nga tayo nag-meet, aalis ka na. don't worry, you can stop by bacolod anytime you want. it's just a bus ride away.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ LOL i sure do enjoy that bus ride from cebu-toledo-negros or cebu-escalante-bacolod.

[kyle@1008]

^^ oh yeah.... half a day....

[sugarboy]

^^ LOL i sure do enjoy that bus ride from cebu-toledo-negros or cebu-escalante-bacolod.

judging from the little that i know about you through this forum, you're the type who'd be pensive all throughout the journey staring out that bus window looking at the endless rows of half grown sugarcane as the sun sets in its orange glory, thinking of what was and what could be. :)

[kyle@1008]

^^ mmm coke's a daydreamer..... are you sure that's the only thing he'll think about? :naughty:

[c0kelitr0]

^^ you are definitely right sugarboy...what i enjoy most about travelling is the "travelling" part so if i'm given a choice to ride between a bus and a plane...i'd go for a bus ride...the negros countryside is very unique...instead of rice paddies, sugarcanes...iba pakiramdam ko pag nasa negros ako...i feel so at home...it feels like i had lived there before...

[sugarboy]

^^ you are definitely right sugarboy...what i enjoy most about travelling is the "travelling" part so if i'm given a choice to ride between a bus and a plane...i'd go for a bus ride...the negros countryside is very unique...instead of rice paddies, sugarcanes...iba pakiramdam ko pag nasa negros ako...i feel so at home...it feels like i had lived there before...

who knows, if you turned that around, it may also mean that you might be living there in the future.

[kyle@1008]

.... that will be nice for coke..... some parts of Negros could even be used as sets for middle-earth.... :colgate:

[c0kelitr0]

bacolod is a perfect place for retirement...i have already been thinking about it...

[slerz]

^^ LOL i sure do enjoy that bus ride from cebu-toledo-negros or cebu-escalante-bacolod.

kuyog nya ta padong sa iloilo og bacolod @coke... thanks ;)

[c0kelitr0]

slerz, sige ba...hehehe...lingaw kayo bus ride hehehe...

[overtureph]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Sep10h.jpg

I'm not sure if this is in Negros but since Negros is noted for sugar or sugarcane plantations, I thought of posting it here.

[Dinho]

^^ you are definitely right sugarboy...what i enjoy most about travelling is the "travelling" part so if i'm given a choice to ride between a bus and a plane...i'd go for a bus ride...the negros countryside is very unique...instead of rice paddies, sugarcanes...iba pakiramdam ko pag nasa negros ako...i feel so at home...it feels like i had lived there before...

Since you feel at home in Negros, why don't you move to Bacolod or one of Metro Bacolod's cities?

[Dinho]

bacolod is a perfect place for retirement...i have already been thinking about it...

As someone from Iloilo said, we Bacolenos seem to be living in Pleasantville. AIM proved the statement true. Bacolod has been consistently ranked first in "quality of life" among the cities of its size for years now. Just don't bring the bars you were talking about in the CEbu thread to BAcolod!

[sugarboy]

Also to add hindi lang naman si GMA ang problema kundi lahit ng mga korakot sa bansa.. mayors, congressmen, governors, senators, generals... and its a bit unfair na si GMA lang ang nakikita. The only solution is that GMA should expose this individuals so she could redeem and save herself and gain the trust of the people in her. What is the use if you have all the strategy for economy but you are so afraid to go against these crocodiles that eat the benefits of the economy.

If this is so, TJ, what is the latest news on the politicians in Bacolod? Start from the highest official. Please fill us in on the latest from Bacolod :)

Thanks in advance.

[c0kelitr0]

@Dinho

LOL...there's already quite a few in bacolod... ;) but they're still underground unlike in Malate where the bars are screaming GAY :lol:

[TJ]

lol, piho naman ni ang city hall nga gina pilit gid nila e construct bisan it is irrelevant kay may current city hall naman di ba ang its nice. siguro ang rason nga gina pilit gid nila e kwaon ang convention plaza kag e renovate kay it is the most expensive option of rather building a new city hall coz the more expensive the more nga ma ka-kaltas naman sila. And buidling a new city even makes no sense at all the moeny could go to better use.

example ang materials nga 100php ang cost himuon nila 800php sometime goes as high as 8000php ti lantawa bala ang ratio amu na ila gina himo pirmi kapin na gid sa road construction kag iban pa nga mga projects. Have you heard of fertilizer issue?? lol pirti.. hehehe grabe nga valor ila gina kaltas indi na na sila buwaya kundi mga dinosaur.. T-rex kun kulang pa ti Godzilla eh lol...

[sugarboy]

anything else apart from the city hall issue?

how about the fertilizer issue? what have prople been saying there?

[TJ]

@Dinho

LOL...there's already quite a few in bacolod... ;) but they're still underground unlike in Malate where the bars are screaming GAY :lol:

coke can u tell me where this bars are?? i havent gone out for a looong time. lol hehehe

[sugarboy]

coke can u tell me where this bars are?? i havent gone out for a looong time. lol hehehe

nano ka TJ man? i thought you hated coke for being gay? now you want to go to his kind of bars? ano man....gina pa -confuse mo ko haw? :lol:

[TJ]

Monico involved in fertilzer scandal, the highway project not a kilometer completed despite 4 years of construction. Baragay health centers have no supplies despite there are funds specificaly directed to provide them(i learned it on our community outreach). All the government can do is built basketball courts and conduct sports tournaments and it is hailed as a great gradues project plus many more i think you should listen to the radio there are tons of issues. they do nothing except sit down and relax and make small things with no relevance sound like big things and they make big things sounds like a very very big things and they take credit for it even when they have nothing to do with it.

[sugarboy]

Monico involved in fertilzer scandal, the highway project not a kilometer completed despite 4 years of construction. Baragay health centers have no supplies despite there are funds specificaly directed to provide them(i learned it on our community outreach). All the government can do is built basketball courts and conduct sports tournaments and it is hailed as a great gradues project plus many more i think you should listen to the radio there are tons of issues. they do nothing except sit down and relax and make small things with no relevance sound like big things and they make big things sounds like a very very big things and they take credit for it even when they have nothing to do with it.

Which Hiway Project is this?

[TJ]

nano ka TJ man? i thought you hated coke for being gay? now you want to go to his kind of bars? ano man....gina pa -confuse mo ko haw? :lol:

i dont hate gays or coke for being gay.. i find them kinda amusing. I dont wanna go to this bars.. lol i just want to tell my classmates to go there coz most of them are gays. but i tell u im not.. really lol

[TJ]

Which Hiway Project is this?

the highway in tangub starting at the airport that goes all the way to kabangkalan.

[sugarboy]

i dont hate gays or coke for being gay.. i find them kinda amusing. I dont wanna go to this bars.. lol i just want to tell my classmates to go there coz most of them are gays. but i tell u im not.. really lol

ok. i just thought you hated gays coz in the first Bacolod thread, you did come close to bashing him online :)

[sugarboy]

the highway in tangub starting at the airport that goes all the way to kabangkalan.

so he's supposed to work on tangub up to sum-ag i guess?...or even all the way to the bacolod-bago border?

[c0kelitr0]

amusing?? what's so amusing with gay men?

[Dinho]

lol, piho naman ni ang city hall nga gina pilit gid nila e construct bisan it is irrelevant kay may current city hall naman di ba ang its nice. siguro ang rason nga gina pilit gid nila e kwaon ang convention plaza kag e renovate kay it is the most expensive option of rather building a new city hall coz the more expensive the more nga ma ka-kaltas naman sila. And buidling a new city even makes no sense at all the moeny could go to better use.

example ang materials nga 100php ang cost himuon nila 800php sometime goes as high as 8000php ti lantawa bala ang ratio amu na ila gina himo pirmi kapin na gid sa road construction kag iban pa nga mga projects. Have you heard of fertilizer issue?? lol pirti.. hehehe grabe nga valor ila gina kaltas indi na na sila buwaya kundi mga dinosaur.. T-rex kun kulang pa ti Godzilla eh lol...

TJ, I've been following the local news. I don't think they are interested in buying BCPH. I am sure Arch't. Garcia would vehemently object to that. If they get the BCPH, They will need to reconfigure a lot of things and renovation would be too costly and time consuming. In fact, reconfiguring it would probably cost more than building a new structure of that size. Daily Star reported that BCPH is not selling it and is instead renting a portion out to a Call Center operation and at the same time continue operating the HOtel. This is a win-win situation which is beneficial to the hotel owners, the call center and Bacolod City. This will mean that Bacolod is still the Convention Center for REgion 6 as Iloilo just recently cancelled a proposed Convention Center there.

[Dinho]

I deleted this cause I thought you might get offended. Anyway, I am only disgusted with gay people who dress weirdly. I don't think you are one of them. There are so many of them here in the Middle East that I wonder why the government doesn't deport them.
The presence of these drag queens here is so annoying to the point that Pakistanis think that all filipino men are fags and they are equally blatant in wooing any Pinoy who gets into their cabs. They keep sayin "Filipino number 1" - absolutely disgusting.

[c0kelitr0]

lol yeah i know what you mean...i also find crossdressers...well, out of this world...

yeah im not like that, i look and act as straight as a cowboy ;)

[TJ]

TJ, I've been following the local news. I don't think they are interested in buying BCPH. I am sure Arch't. Garcia would vehemently object to that. If they get the BCPH, They will need to reconfigure a lot of things and renovation would be too costly and time consuming. In fact, reconfiguring it would probably cost more than building a new structure of that size. Daily Star reported that BCPH is not selling it and is instead renting a portion out to a Call Center operation and at the same time continue operating the HOtel. This is a win-win situation which is beneficial to the hotel owners, the call center and Bacolod City. This will mean that Bacolod is still the Convention Center for REgion 6 as Iloilo just recently cancelled a proposed Convention Center there.

good then, i wonder who was behind that idea of renovation bcph.

[Dinho]

sorry, my days off now are wednesdays and thursdays :D

wow...midrise condos in bacolod! these are what TJ has been waiting for all his life! :D

Me too! In fact I had been rather depressed for weeks that Bacolod still doesn't have high rises. I hope that work on the Active Centre and Uniwide Harbour City would be resumed soon... even if some other companies take over the projects. Sugarboy, what has been happening at Active. Do you know the details as to what has been causing the delay with Active Center? I only heard about the about the farmers lawsuit... but I find it ridiculous that they would insist on farming in the city center. Kyle, good to find you here again! Did you take any pictures of the SM City construction? Could you post it here please? I had been looking for a rendering but I couldn't find anything on both the SM City and the residential Condominium on Google and the Palafox website. Do you have any idea which architectural firm is doing the design?

[Dinho]

good then, i wonder who was behind that idea of renovation bcph.

I dunno. You might be laughing at this... but I had been praying that it would not be sold to the city hall and that it would continue operating as a hotel and convention center. Seems like my prayer has been answered...

[TJ]

amusing?? what's so amusing with gay men?

i dunno, at first i seem to dislike gays my impression is that they are manyakis, vulgar, shameless but when i got to college i have some gay classmate that became my friends it seems that some of them aren't like that.

I find them amusing coz i can tease them anytime i want and they never get mad at me specially my friends. lol :)

[Dinho]

What's the point of teasing them if they don't get angry? Enough of this please. TJ, do you have any pictures of new buildings in Bacolod?

[TJ]

LOL... no i dont have scanner or blue tooth. But there is lot of medium buildings and warehouses sprouting everywhere nowadays. CDO hotdogs has a factory here too near the ice storage.

[TJ]

What's the point of teasing them if they don't get angry? Enough of this please. TJ, do you have any pictures of new buildings in Bacolod?

Lol, coz it's fun... :)

[Dinho]

LOL... no i dont have scanner or blue tooth. But there is lot of medium buildings and warehouses sprouting everywhere nowadays. CDO hotdogs has a factory here too near the ice storage.

What? The Ice plants should have been moved to either Alijis or Bago City since they should be in the industrial area and now CDO is located there as well? You mean medium rise buildings of between 7 to ten storeys? That would be good news. Hope they are well designed and sturdy. About time to purchase a digital camera TJ?

[Dinho]

SunStar - Friday, February 24, 2006
Condo construction starts next month

THE construction of the first ever high-rise condominium in Bacolod City will begin next month, Simplicio Palanca, chair of the Bacolod Realty Development Corporation (Bredco) said Thursday.

He said he has already outlined the program of works for the said project which will be financed also by Bredco.

The area where the condominium will be erected is now being cleared, he said adding that it will also take 20 days for curing.

The condominium will have 56 units.

Originally the plan called for two eight-storey condo buildings. Each building is completely autonomous and rearing skyward side by side.

Later, however, it was re-designed into just one high-rise building for economic reasons.

Palanca is targeting to finish the project by the end of the year.

The condominium is set to compliment with the rise SM Mega Mall that is being constructed now also within the sprawling 16-hectare area of the reclamation site fronting the Bacolod Plaza.

It's construction, however, is expected to stimulate the transformation of the Reclamation area into a bustling commercial and business area or an economic zone, Palanca said.

Palanca, on the other hand, projects that soon foreign investors and businessmen will be inclined to stay for good in Bacolod with the prospect in living in a place where they can reside with a mega mall within walking distance and can view both the mountain and sea without obstruction.


Its great that they are finally building residential condos in Bacolod soon. It must indeed be expensive to build two medium rise structures at the reclamation area because they will have to use piles for the foundations of two buildings. I hope that they will build a true high rise this time as they could save on the cost of piling. 56 units on a single high rise building could mean anywhere between 8 storeys to 16 storeys. I hope that the Yanson's, Cojuanco's, Ledesma's, Ocana's would follow suit with medium to high rise office buildings to house their company's HQ's.

[sugarboy]

here's my ten-cents worth on medium rise residential condos in Bacolod:

how much will it cost to build a condo in bacolod? break this up into the number of units to be sold as divided on a per sq meter basis. this will give you an indication as to how much a unit will cost. surely, the cost of one unit cannot go so low because it does not enjoy the economy of scale as in the case of high rise condos.

for a 1 bedroom 40 sqm condo unit, i wouldn't be surprised if the developers will be forced to sell the unit at a price ranging between 1.2M to 1.5M.

now, if you had 1.2M to spare in bacolod, will you still use that money just to buy a condo?

mga pards, daku na na nga lote ang mabakal mo (trans=you can buy a big lot already). or, makabakal ka na sang "heliconia" nga balay sa town and country. even if that's a small house, it beats living in a condo.

knowing people in the province, people would still opt for their own lot/land rather than be in a high-rise/medium-rise.

anyway, that's just my opinion. i'm not much of a condo dweller anyway.

so i guess, the real question is...is bacolod ready for a medium rise condo project? i've said my piece, TJ, Dinho, Coke, kamo naman discutir. :)

[c0kelitr0]

i don't think it is...i guess puro mga single rich brats lang bibili nyan...

[Dinho]

here's my ten-cents worth on medium rise residential condos in Bacolod:

how much will it cost to build a condo in bacolod? break this up into the number of units to be sold as divided on a per sq meter basis. this will give you an indication as to how much a unit will cost. surely, the cost of one unit cannot go so low because it does not enjoy the economy of scale as in the case of high rise condos.

for a 1 bedroom 40 sqm condo unit, i wouldn't be surprised if the developers will be forced to sell the unit at a price ranging between 1.2M to 1.5M.

now, if you had 1.2M to spare in bacolod, will you still use that money just to buy a condo?

mga pards, daku na na nga lote ang mabakal mo (trans=you can buy a big lot already). or, makabakal ka na sang "heliconia" nga balay sa town and country. even if that's a small house, it beats living in a condo.

knowing people in the province, people would still opt for their own lot/land rather than be in a high-rise/medium-rise.

anyway, that's just my opinion. i'm not much of a condo dweller anyway.

so i guess, the real question is...is bacolod ready for a medium rise condo project? i've said my piece, TJ, Dinho, Coke, kamo naman discutir. :)

I think that the going price for super luxury condos would be around Php 60,000/sq.m. Anyway, I think that there will be enough people who will be able to buy condos in Bacolod. In fact, a lot of my friends and acquaintances own condos in Metro MAnila. I am sure that people in Bacolod could afford to get one. They could use it as a sort of guest house if they already have a big residence. Condo living is also less expensive I think so long as it is not fully enclosed and sealed in with glass. Living in a single detached house would mean you have to get a gardener once in a while, clean up the yard and pay a heftier water bill as well.

[Dinho]

here's my ten-cents worth on medium rise residential condos in Bacolod:

how much will it cost to build a condo in bacolod? break this up into the number of units to be sold as divided on a per sq meter basis. this will give you an indication as to how much a unit will cost. surely, the cost of one unit cannot go so low because it does not enjoy the economy of scale as in the case of high rise condos.

for a 1 bedroom 40 sqm condo unit, i wouldn't be surprised if the developers will be forced to sell the unit at a price ranging between 1.2M to 1.5M.

now, if you had 1.2M to spare in bacolod, will you still use that money just to buy a condo?

mga pards, daku na na nga lote ang mabakal mo (trans=you can buy a big lot already). or, makabakal ka na sang "heliconia" nga balay sa town and country. even if that's a small house, it beats living in a condo.

knowing people in the province, people would still opt for their own lot/land rather than be in a high-rise/medium-rise.

anyway, that's just my opinion. i'm not much of a condo dweller anyway.

so i guess, the real question is...is bacolod ready for a medium rise condo project? i've said my piece, TJ, Dinho, Coke, kamo naman discutir. :)

Talking about high rise buildings. I think that it would have been better if the transport magnate built a medium rise office building instead of a very expensive house. The cost of that house would be enough for a moderately finished medium rise office building.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ magkano ba bahay nila?

[Dinho]

^^ magkano ba bahay nila?

I heard it costs over Php 150,000,000.

[c0kelitr0]

omg...a $3-million home in bacolod must be very huge!

[Dinho]

omg...a $3-million home in bacolod must be very huge!

Nope. There are a lot of other houses of about the same size. I think that it was the materials they used that made it very expensive. They also had to buy some old houses and lots whose owners are relatively wealthy that they could afford not to sell their properties. In fact several houses are surrounded by the Yanson's palace on 3 sides because the owners wouldn't sell.

[sugarboy]

ok, what about kyle and TJ....abi may 1.5M kamo. will you bury your 1.5M in a condo in bacolod?

[TJ]

No, i will rather buy a house and lot or start a small buisness. Pero kung 500k and below yung price ng condo pwedeng pwede.. hehehe

[sugarboy]

noted. o kyle, ikaw naman...

[Dinho]

UNIVERSITY TOWN

Dumaguete City is known as a University Town with the presence of old quality universities (with two schools having already celebrated its 100 years of existence) despite of just being a small city. More aptly called a town rather than a city when some years back industrialization hadn't hit the place. A better testament of this will be during vacation time as the place metamorphosed from a city filled with students to a ghost town (i might be exaggerating but the place really suddenly becomes quiet). Students from all over the country and different parts of the world have come to study in this city. A clean and environment friendly place, very low crime rate, has rustic and layback lifestyle (where it has a life on its own and deprived from the chaos that are besetting this country), and most importantly the quality education it offers makes Dumaguete City an ideal and conducive place for learning.





SILLIMAN UNIVERSITY
founded 1901
- oldest American founded university in Asia and the first school outside Manila to be given a university status.
- 66-hectare campus (excluding other assets) and has a community on its own. It has a church, hospital, zoo, farm, powerhouse, beach, water pumping station, fire truck, auditorium, village, and used to own a radio station (first campus radio in the country).
- declared as a national historical landmark by the National Historical Institute by being the oldest American founded school in the country and with the presence old American architecture that has withstood the test of time.


Silliman Hall
built in 1903
(oldest building in the campus)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/ped39d169391ec5c5b4d57088a9dc0da2/f00c9fb1.jpg


Oriental Hall
built in 1920
(oldest dormitory now functioned as a classroom)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/pe39e49f927b25b48b94eb2769f5de03a/f02c5522.jpg

Katipunan Hall
built in 1915
(used to be a hospital now houses the Languages Department)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p2bbfe0ad494c695fb76e8e9cda513549/f02c5524.jpg

Guy Hall
built in 1918
(used to serve as a Japanese garrison, there said to be torture chamber somewhere in the underground although they close it from the public)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p7dbaf415caf0cf9ea0fac6d1f01390c9/f02c552c.jpg

There is also a chapel that is said to be designed by I. M. Pei but I still have to confirm it.






ST. PAUL UNIVERSITY OF DUMAGUETE
founded 1904
- the mother school of all St. Paul schools in the country
- founded by 7 French nuns (there also 2 americans and 1 chinese) from the congregation Sisters of St. Paul of Chartres which are originally from France on board on a small boat
- granted Full Autonomy by CHED
- component of the first university system recognized by CHED (this includes SPU- Manila, Tuguegarao, Quezon City, Iloilo, and Surigao City)
- one of the best nursing schools in country as recognized by PRC
- first ISO 9000 certified school in the country (as part of the St. Paul University system)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p18b5755383b18d0b84fbef2ed49e625e/f02b9693.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p41f9115f35b5db2c242ba8a6be029382/f02c550e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/pac7bfb368ea6012a4efef7811a502315/f40a30d6.jpg
(courtesy of JudeD)
The marker depicting the arrival of the French nuns. Declared as a national historical landmark by the National Historical Institute during its Centennial Celebration in recognition to the congregation's contribution to education, medicine (they also run several hospitals), and other humanitarian services in the country.





FOUNDATION UNIVERSITY
founded 1949
- founded by former University of the Philippines president Vicente Cinco
- the region's first non sectarian, non stock and non profit educational institution
- excell in sports, IT, education, and agriculture courses
- within the school is an outsourcing industry for medical transcription, animation, and architecture design

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/pf6ae9c612dd14d604bb776aef527b410/f4e6085e.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p28a4c24ac97dcfe799399be3353b1187/f4e605dc.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/pe7d10c39582d140997f22eba2d8a6a8e/f4e6043b.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/pc1cc8a6b786179551dca3d9bdd70701d/f4e60390.jpg






NEGROS ORIENTAL STATE UNIVERSITY
founded in 1927 as a trade school but its history started in 1907
- the state university of Negros Oriental
- excell in engineering courses and consistent producer of topnotchers in engineering board exams
- largest population of students and having the largest area with 9 satellite campuses all over the province
- first internet service provider of Negros Oriental

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p9b4a8e0e1c21e5b58d0c8f2b43053c7b/f4e601cc.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p227bba57405199077fd1a7c5e8b5d34f/f00c8548.jpg





There are also colleges in Dumaguete that's why it is appropriately called as University Town.

Could somebody dig up and post something about the 3 universities in Metro Bacolod? This one was posted at the Dumaguete thread. It is very informative. I wonder why Negros Occidental still doesn't have a State University of its own? I'd also like to know what is keeping San Agustin from becoming a university. I won't ask anymore about WNC... I just hope they get over this situation well because I know a lot of people studying nursing at that school.

[lewdsaint]

You heard it from where? Show your facts.

I heard it costs over Php 150,000,000.

[hezron]

Talking about high rise buildings. I think that it would have been better if the Yansons built a medium rise office building instead of a very expensive house. The cost of that house would be enough for a moderately finished medium rise office building.



I heard it costs over Php 150,000,000.


grabeng tikal mo bro! 3 million dollar house in bacolod. not that i don't believe it but the owner is either dumb or just plain tikalon. coz i'd rather build a strip mall with that or buy 15 high class condos in makati. or maybe buy a 100 sq.m lot for 2.99 million dollars coz the rich owner won't sell it and then build .01 million dollar bahay kubo, to make me even more dumber. so many lucio tans in this area. if i were a bacolodnon, i will vanish you!

[Marley]

Kamusta na ang Bacolod? May bago-o kamo da nga pictures?

[overtureph]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Negros.jpg

[Marley]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/overtureph/Negros.jpg

Thanx guid sang postcard. Pero may mga bag-o kamo da nga pictures sg. Bacolod? May ara na billboard ang SM City kag ang guina hambal ni Dinho nga ipatindog ni Palanca nga High Rise Condos sa Reclamation Area?

Salamat guid.

[sugarboy]

grabeng tikal mo bro! 3 million dollar house in bacolod. not that i don't believe it but the owner is either dumb or just plain tikalon. coz i'd rather build a strip mall with that or buy 15 high class condos in makati. or maybe buy a 100 sq.m lot for 2.99 million dollars coz the rich owner won't sell it and then build .01 million dollar bahay kubo, to make me even more dumber. so many lucio tans in this area. if i were a bacolodnon, i will vanish you!

I agree P 150M would be too high. I feel though that since these are unverified reports, what we do not know is whether the P 150M includes the furnishings. But even then, P 150M is too high indeed.

[Marley]

grabeng tikal mo bro! 3 million dollar house in bacolod. not that i don't believe it but the owner is either dumb or just plain tikalon. coz i'd rather build a strip mall with that or buy 15 high class condos in makati. or maybe buy a 100 sq.m lot for 2.99 million dollars coz the rich owner won't sell it and then build .01 million dollar bahay kubo, to make me even more dumber. so many lucio tans in this area. if i were a bacolodnon, i will vanish you!

I agree P 150M would be too high. I feel though that since these are unverified reports, what we do not know is whether the P 150M includes the furnishings. But even then, P 150M is too high indeed.

Siguro chakto ka. I also heard the same stories. Hambal nila and original estimate was 50,000,000 pesos lang pero tungod gusto sang owners ang pinakamaayo nga materials, ang project nag lapaw katama ang cost. Siguro ang 150,000,000 dala na da ang price sang tupad nga mga balay na guin pang demolish. Sin-o ni si Hezron man? Ga panuya sya sang mga Bacolodnon haw? Hambal ni Dinho "I heard", daw wala man sya nag hambal nga amo guid na ang presyo. May ara da kamo pictures sini nga balay?

Daw kadyutay guid di tawo sa thread sang Bacolod haw? Sako guid guro obra mga Bacolodnon? Mayo na, productive manga tawo sang Bacolod.

[sugarboy]

Daw kadyutay guid di tawo sa thread sang Bacolod haw? Sako guid guro obra mga Bacolodnon? Mayo na, productive manga tawo sang Bacolod.

Indi na sako ang mga Bacolodnon, apathetic lang. Pawala bala haw! :lol:

Welcome to the forum hezron!

[Dinho]

grabeng tikal mo bro! 3 million dollar house in bacolod. not that i don't believe it but the owner is either dumb or just plain tikalon. coz i'd rather build a strip mall with that or buy 15 high class condos in makati. or maybe buy a 100 sq.m lot for 2.99 million dollars coz the rich owner won't sell it and then build .01 million dollar bahay kubo, to make me even more dumber. so many lucio tans in this area. if i were a bacolodnon, i will vanish you!

Hey, This is the first time I've ever encountered you and you are already attacking me personally. Since you also speak Ilonggo and you are not Bacoleno, I take it that your from Iloilo. I only said that I heard that it was the final cost of the house. The owner may have other reasons why he would build such an expensive house. I know that many Houses in Manila costs more than that. I have never encountered anybody yet who says that the Yanson's are "tikalon".

[Dinho]

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[Dinho]

Indi na sako ang mga Bacolodnon, apathetic lang. Pawala bala haw! :lol:

Welcome to the forum hezron!

Just imagine what Bacolod could achieve if the people are as passionate about their place as the Ilonggos of Iloilo City are. Despite its apathetic residents, Bacolod is still progressing rapidly despite not being a regional capital.

[kyle@1008]

^^ from what I know the house costed 100 million pesos,... and to add, .. yes tikalon gid ang owner... .... ,... if you know the yansons,... this sort of attitude is expected to them...

[kyle@1008]

noted. o kyle, ikaw naman...

maybe,... and Ill have it rented out.... not to live though

[Dinho]

double posting

[Dinho]

^^ from what I know the house costed 100 million pesos,... and to add, .. yes tikalon gid ang owner... .... ,... if you know the yansons,... this sort of attitude is expected of them...

Kyle, Good to see you here again. I wouldn't use the word "Tikalon" though because they are indeed very wealthy in the first place. As I understand it "Tikalon" means someone who is boasting about something which he doesn't have. This means that word is not applicable. Maybe haughty is more appropriate. But they are not the only ones in Bacolod who are haughty. It seems that there are a lot of people here who are like that... heheh... myself included - at times.

[kyle@1008]

^^ huh like what?? no tuthfully man... I don't like the yansons,... everyone knows how they got rich anyway.... but, I do know their filthy rich owning buses all over the nation,...

ditto,....

[Dinho]

Where have you been all this time?

[kyle@1008]

^^ yes, but let's cut this topic short,... I was taught that it was impolite to talk bout money.... I merely told what I knew.... anyways ,. :colgate:

[kyle@1008]

I've been out with friends..... a lot... too busy to come here, :colgate:

[Dinho]

^^ yes, but let's cut this topic short,... I was taught that it was impolite to talk bout money.... I merely told what I knew.... anyways ,. :colgate:

That's right. The topic was about the cost of high rise buildings and company HQ's anyway, we just got manipulated into discussing something else. I still do hope the big companies based in Negros and owned by Negrenses would build their own HQ's here instead of Manila.

[kyle@1008]

^^ that would take a while..... Negrenses prefer to do business elsewhere and unwind in their home town..... think of it like Maine...

[TJ]

Dinho iloilo gid dayon imu tirada ba.. :lol: ma sulod naman na di karon mga taga iloilo.. :lol:

[kyle@1008]

.... well, just be tactful,... :colgate:

[Dinho]

Dinho iloilo gid dayon imu tirada ba.. :lol: ma sulod naman na di karon mga taga iloilo.. :lol:

That was totally unintentional. I merely reacted to a question posed by one of them regarding the statement of the European Envoy who visited Iloilo recently. Sad thing is they cannot accept facts. They've done this twice already... last time it was a Cebuano named Eazyboy who himself went so far as to say some bad things. But mind you, the Ilonggos were very nasty with him. A lady there even called him an animal at some point. Check out Iloilo City and Province Thread VII (But I think that lady had since deleted her statement).

[Dinho]

.... well, just be tactful,... :colgate:

Yes. I will do my best to cut on being too frank.

[Dinho]

.... well, just be tactful,... :colgate:

Where is Coke and Sugarboy? Oh, by the way, you should check out the Cagayan De Oro Thread too. They also went there to try to discredit me.

[chymera00]

That was totally unintentional. I merely reacted to a question posed by one of them regarding the statement of the European Envoy who visited Iloilo recently. Sad thing is they cannot accept facts. They've done this twice already... last time it was a Cebuano named Eazyboy who himself went so far as to say some bad things. But mind you, the Ilonggos were very nasty with him. A lady there even called him an animal at some point. Check out Iloilo City and Province Thread VII (But I think that lady had since deleted her statement).
Are you likening yourself to eazyboy? you seem like a big fan of his

[Dinho]

Are you likening yourself to eazyboy? you seem like a big fan of his

Nope. I'm not. I just couldn't comprehend how a lady could call someone else an animal. I just mentioned that here so that my fellow Bacolodnons would understand how high strung some of your chums in Iloilo are. Enough of that. I don't want any more trouble.

By the way, I saw on Emporis that the Iloilo Corporate Tower is already under construction. Is that true? Seems like Iloilo and Bacolod are both booming right now. The Palancas are also planning a medium rise condominium tower at the Reclamation area. Originally the plan was for two 8 storey buildings but the latest press release was that it will be consolidated into one to save on piling costs. This means it could be anywhere from 8 to 16 storeys. Great news huh? Hope that both cities could keep the momentum going.

[Dinho]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/bacolod.jpg

This is where the condominiums are going to rise.

The rendering was done by Palafox and Associates.

[chymera00]

Nope. I'm not. I just couldn't comprehend how a lady could call someone else an animal. I just mentioned that here so that my fellow Bacolodnons would understand how high strung some of your chums in Iloilo are. Enough of that. I don't want any more trouble.

By the way, I saw on Emporis that the Iloilo Corporate Tower is already under construction. Is that true? Seems like Iloilo and Bacolod are both booming right now. The Palancas are also planning a medium rise condominium tower at the Reclamation area. Originally the plan was for two 8 storey buildings but the latest press release was that it will be consolidated into one to save on piling costs. This means it could be anywhere from 8 to 16 storeys. Great news huh? Hope that both cities could keep the momentum going.
I think your fellow Bacolodnons know exactly what's going on ...

The Iloilo Corporate Tower together with the Iloilo Corporate Center are not going to push through because of the some controversies with the owner (or some say the 1997 Asian Financial crisis). There was a billboard when the project started but it was removed and its been 9 years now ...

As for highrises in Iloilo, investors are still waiting for the airport to be transferred.

[Marley]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/bacolod.jpg

This is where the condominiums are going to rise.

The rendering was done by Palafox and Associates.

May ara pa da bag-o nga snapshots sang Bacolod? Chymeraoo, ano ang gaka tabo haw? Daw mga taga didto man to ang nagabinastos sa Iloilo X? Bwas tan-awon ko ang siling ni Dinho nga Iloilo VII.

[Marley]

I think your fellow Bacolodnons know exactly what's going on ...

The Iloilo Corporate Tower together with the Iloilo Corporate Center are not going to push through because of the some controversies with the owner (or some say the 1997 Asian Financial crisis). There was a billboard when the project started but it was removed and its been 9 years now ...

As for highrises in Iloilo, investors are still waiting for the airport to be transferred.

Daw ka layo man sang Airport sa Iloilo nga downtown. Daw may ara na guid lang da mga tag-as nga buildings sa may SM City Iloilo? Bacolod gani balda man tungod sang Crisis sang 1997. Damo dlagko katama nga projects nga wala natapos.

[lewdsaint]

I agree with you, kyle! I already advised Dinho several times to be tactful.

.... well, just be tactful,... :colgate:

[shatorre]

one should be sensitive man...ako i'm from iloilo but damo guid ko da family sa bacolod... :) sino may update dira about sa riverside hospital?last ko nga visit dira...family reunion namon sang december 2001 :)

[Dinho]

one should be sensitive man...ako i'm from iloilo but damo guid ko da family sa bacolod... :) sino may update dira about sa riverside hospital?last ko nga visit dira...family reunion namon sang december 2001 :)

You could probably drive to the place and check it up yourself since you're located in Bacolod... But I wonder how you know Wecky so well? And 2 posts only? Are you also from CPU?

[shatorre]

You could probably drive to the place and check it up yourself since you're located in Bacolod... But I wonder how you know Wecky so well? And 2 posts only? Are you also from CPU?
yup from CPU...ari ko singapore subong (na edit ko na).

[Marley]

yup from CPU...ari ko singapore subong (na edit ko na).

Daw gina pa sala mo kami haw? nyway's welcome guid. Better guid mag halong halong sang mga commentar ta. Taga CPU ka nga daan.

[shatorre]

Daw gina pa sala mo kami haw? nyway's welcome guid. Better guid mag halong halong sang mga commentar ta. Taga CPU ka nga daan.
ayte...tao lang po...i'm still finding my way sa forum settings... :) .indi man tanan taga cpu malain...kag damo man taga negros ga eskwela sa cpu... :) ...also damo man ko da relatives sa bacolod...mga 1st cousins sang father kag mother ko...so "peace"...avoid ta lang ang mga unnecessary comments ah...bad na. :)


btw plugging gali:

kung gusto nyo mapa cater...sa "Golden Table" lang ha...hahaha :)..may discount...

[Dinho]

ayte...indi man tanan taga cpu malain...kag damo man taga negros ga eskwela sa cpu... :) ...damo man ko da relatives sa bacolod...mga 1st cousins sang father kag mother ko.


btw plugging gali:

kung gusto nyo mapa cater...sa "Golden Table" lang ha...hahaha :)..may discount...

Welcome to Bacolod Mr. Torre. Seems like we might have bumped into each other at CPU since I am about your age? So what is your job in Singapore? Which building is your office located? Were you referring to me as one of the "malain" nga Centralian. I just mentioned the problem of congestion and pollution in Iloilo and that I started having asthma while I was there and hell broke loose. I must say there are a few good men there too like Chymera. I wonder if you know him. Hey, why don't you buy property and invest in Metro Bacolod since you have a lot of relatives here and AIM did say that Bacolod is number one in Quality of Life and Infrastructure among cities its size. Iloilo was number one in human resources and training so you could live in Bacolod and send your kids to study at CPU. Just rent them a small place. Uh, but you are still looking for a wife right? I must say that Iloilo ladies are nice... why look in Cebu?

[shatorre]

Welcome to Bacolod Mr. Torre. Seems like we might have bumped into each other at CPU since I am about your age? So what is your job in Singapore? Which building is your office located? Were you referring to me as one of the "malain" nga Centralian. I just mentioned the problem of congestion and pollution in Iloilo and that I started having asthma while I was there and hell broke loose. I must say there are a few good men there too like Chymera. I wonder if you know him. Hey, why don't you buy property and invest in Metro Bacolod since you have a lot of relatives here and AIM did say that Bacolod is number one in Quality of Life and Infrastructure among cities its size. Iloilo was number one in human resources and training so you could live in Bacolod and send your kids to study at CPU. Just rent them a small place. Uh, but you are still looking for a wife right? I must say that Iloilo ladies are nice... why look in Cebu?

ahihi...dont know but i like cebuana...but biskan ano lang ok man...i don't know nga centralian ka man gali...i'm a nurse and a recruitment officer (sideline) sa singapore (but i usually don't collect fees sa mga pinoys..only chinese and other nationalities)...i'm connected with stamford management international kag located office namon sa international plaza sa anson road.may mga investment naman da mga pamilya namon sa bacolod ah...sa healthcare, restaurants kag construction...dire na ako siguro ma stay sa singapore for now...maybe mag retire puli ko sa pinas... :)

[Dinho]

ahihi...dont know but i like cebuana...but biskan ano lang ok man...i don't know nga centralian ka man gali...i'm a nurse and a recruitment agent (sideline) sa singapore (but i usually don't collect fees sa mga pinoys..only chinese and other nationalities)...i'm connected with stamford management international kag located office namon sa international plaza sa anson road.may mga investment naman da mga pamilya namon sa bacolod ah...sa healthcare, restaurants kag construction...dire na ako siguro ma stay sa singapore for now...maybe mag retire puli ko sa pinas... :)

Yuh, CEbuanas are indeed beautiful. Light skinned too. Do you plan to visit Bacolod anytime soon? I'm also planning to make a roadtrip to Cebu when I get home. You should see the Ayala development in Bacolod. It is splendid... Nothing like it in all Region 6.

[shatorre]

Yuh, CEbuanas are indeed beautiful. Light skinned too. Do you plan to visit Bacolod anytime soon? I'm also planning to make a roadtrip to Cebu when I get home. You should see the Ayala development in Bacolod. It is splendid... Nothing like it in all Region 6.

maybe kung maka puli ko this march... :)

[Dinho]

This March already? Roadtrip to CEbu is the best. Try to do that.

[TJ]

I was surpissed when i went to iloilo this thursday to visit my bro and sis... it has finally beaten bacolod as the cleanest and greenest highly urbanized city for 2005.. i saw it on a big billboard. I also noticed that bacolod is busy building 2-3 storey buildings while there in iloilo they are busy buidling 4-7 storeys. I have also photograhped some of the many midrise buldings there between 6-8 storeys but i still don't know how to transfer this pics from my cellphone to the pc.. i dont even know how to attach pics in the post. :lol:

[sugarboy]

^^ bro and sis mo work in iloilo?

[TJ]

they study there not work.. :lol:

[sugarboy]

mga manghod mo sila?

[c0kelitr0]

TJ, Bacolod is already a Hall of Famer...excluded na yata ang Bacolod sa Cleanest and Greenest competition as far as what I have heard...

ano phone mo? if you don't have a cable, you can send the pics to your email via MMS (magastos na paraan)...or if your PC has a bluetooth/infrared port, you can transfer the pics that way...

[TJ]

mga manghod mo sila?

yes :)

[sugarboy]

^^ they stay in a dorm?

[TJ]

TJ, Bacolod is already a Hall of Famer...excluded na yata ang Bacolod sa Cleanest and Greenest competition as far as what I have heard...

ano phone mo? if you don't have a cable, you can send the pics to your email via MMS (magastos na paraan)...or if your PC has a bluetooth/infrared port, you can transfer the pics that way...

ahh ganun pla... coz i surprised to see that billboard.. :lol:

My phone is 3220 with no infra or bluetooth.. suxx :cry:

[TJ]

no in an apartment there, my mom works there too..

[sugarboy]

ayte...tao lang po...i'm still finding my way sa forum settings... :) .indi man tanan taga cpu malain...kag damo man taga negros ga eskwela sa cpu... :) ...also damo man ko da relatives sa bacolod...mga 1st cousins sang father kag mother ko...so "peace"...avoid ta lang ang mga unnecessary comments ah...bad na. :)


btw plugging gali:

kung gusto nyo mapa cater...sa "Golden Table" lang ha...hahaha :)..may discount...

I've heard of Golden Table. Is that a caterer in Iloilo or Bacolod?

[TJ]

golden table is in bacolod i have eaten there once.. or maybe twice but only take out. :lol:

[sugarboy]

where is golden table in bacolod?

[TJ]

somwhere quite near the bonifacio elementary school...

[sugarboy]

i can't recall. :(

[c0kelitr0]

@sugarboy, oh my god he's here...in SSC...

[TJ]

who's here??

[Coffee]

I was surpissed when i went to iloilo this thursday to visit my bro and sis... it has finally beaten bacolod as the cleanest and greenest highly urbanized city for 2005.. i saw it on a big billboard.

Bacolod isn't a highly urbanized city, so it's probably in a different category. :)

[c0kelitr0]

^^ LOL...Bacolod is highly urbanized! :bash:

[sugarboy]

@sugarboy, oh my god he's here...in SSC...you mean HIM?

[c0kelitr0]

^^ yeah, him. :runaway:

[TJ]

who's him?? :lol:

[c0kelitr0]

@TJ, never mind, di mo kilala :D

[TJ]

@TJ, never mind, di mo kilala :D

ok, :)

bakit parang nagulat ka kay :lol:

[Marley]

you mean HIM?

Si Coffee? Sin-o sya haw?

[TJ]

i wanna ask how tall exactly is the medium rise condo to rise in the reclamation?? coz i havent yet seen them starting to work the site.

it has 56 units with 2 buildings which is 23 uints in each building right?? In my estimate it would be a slender condominium between 6 - 7 storeys.

[Marley]

i wanna ask how tall exactly is the medium rise condo to rise in the reclamation?? coz i havent yet seen them starting to work the site.

it has 56 units with 2 buildings which is 23 uints in each building right?? In my estimate it would be a slender condominium between 6 - 7 storeys.

pina ka ulhi ko bati 1 highrise nalang kuno. pero 56 units gihapon.

[c0kelitr0]

Yeah TJ, they scrapped the two-tower plan. it's gonna be just 1 tower...so taller i guess...