Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Province - Compiled Threads

[rooster2369]

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agree ako diyan...........

there are things na meron sa iloilo na wala sa bacolod, just the same na meron ang bacolod na wala sa iloilo.

di naman kailangan magpataasan dito ng ihi just to determine kung alin sa dalawang cities ang mas progressive d ba?


shak.... !!!May Tama ka!!! :)

[Dinho]

when are you arriving?

Next week. This time next week.

[Dinho]

hayyyyy sa october pa ako mapuli.. sure na ako sang bacolod ko.. pero im still weghing things if ill get an iloilo/guinmaras side trip or dumaguete/bais side trip

since fiesta man sa dgte sa october.. its their buglasan festival (counterpart sang panaad sa negros) and peak season sang whale watching eh..

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hope to see uy all there mag masskara festival..


You should go for Dumaguete. Nice and pleasant place. Stay at Antulang Resort. Check out the Dumaguete/Negros Oriental thread.

[overtureph]

At Large : One family, one city

First posted 01:21am (Mla time) May 30, 2006
By Rina Jimenez-David
Inquirer



Editor's Note: Published on page A11 of the May 30, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

IN 1903, a 15-year-old boy in Fokien, China, who had been adopted by the Tan family, earning the name Tan Kit (kit being the Fookien word for “adopted”), hopped aboard a vessel bound for Silay, Negros Occidental.

Tan Kit had heard about Silay from other Chinese laborers and traders, who spoke of the many jobs available in the town where sugar production was making families wealthy. Once in Silay, Tan Kit joined a team of older carpenters who were building homes for Silay’s most prominent families. There Tan Kit’s brick-making skills came to the fore and he was never without a job.

Ten years later, Tan Kit had saved enough for a trip back to China and he traveled there with a grand plan, recruiting relatives and friends for his own house-building crew. While in Fookien, Tan Kit met Tio Sa, who struck him as excellent wife material, and who was willing to join him in Silay. They were married, and a few weeks later, they sailed to Silay with the new recruits.

Tan Kit had bet right on Silay’s prosperity, and soon he and his crew were constructing the mansions of Silay’s elite, including the Ledesma, Golez, Jison and Gamboa families. In 1920, Tan Kit was hired to construct portions of the base of the San Diego Church (now a pro-cathedral), under the supervision of its major sponsor, Jose Ledesma, and using the design of Italian architect Antonio Bernasconi. Later, Tan Kit established a lumberyard business did good business. On the personal front, he and Tio Sa also founded a family, with five natural children and two adopted ones. To blend in better among Silaynon families, Tan Kit adopted the Christianized name of Vivencio Tan Kit and sent his children to school in Silay, where they grew up among the children of haciendero families and other townsfolk.

* * *

THE younger of the Tan Kit daughters, Maria Corazon, left Silay at the age of 18 after a matchmaker was dispatched from Manila to accompany her so she could meet her prospective groom, Antonio Yu, the scion of wealthy business folk who were making money as dealers of “calesa” [horse-drawn carriage] accessories.

But because they were making the trip shortly after the close of World War II, Maria and her companion were trapped in a “batil” (a large cargo boat) on the open sea for more than a week. By the time they arrived in Manila, Maria’s delicate “China doll” complexion had roughened and darkened. It took the matchmaker many minutes of strenuous explanations before Yu could accept the new arrival as his prospective bride.

Still, they wed and it was only with much difficulty that Maria, the pampered and cosseted daughter of Silay gentility, adjusted to life as a wife and mother and the daughter-in-law of disapproving in-laws. But she inherited much of her father’s entrepreneurial instincts, and when the calesa accessories business she and her husband put up failed, she turned around and founded a laundry shop, which soon expanded into branches with the help of young women she recruited from Silay and Ilocos. It was mainly through her efforts that they were able to send through school their three sons, Robert, Edward and Charlie, who are all now successful businessmen in their own right.

* * *

I’M SHARING the story of Tan Kit and his daughter Maria Corazon (as retold by Silay City tourism officer Ver Pacete) because I spent much of last Sunday at the blessing, inauguration and turnover of the Silay City Women’s Center, whose construction was funded by the Tan Kit family, more specifically the children of Maria Corazon Tan Kit Yu.

Some months back, Charlie Yu paid a call on Silay City Mayor Carlo Gamban to tell him that he and his brothers wanted to fund a project in Silay. “I showed him an inventory of planned projects,” recalled Gamban in his message at the rites, mentioning that one of the projects he pushed was an “underground public toilet.” Charlie politely turned down the suggestion, explaining that “we want the project to be in memory of our late mother.”

It was then that Gamban remembered the proposed women’s center, for which Councilor Marie June Pavillar Castro, as chair of the committee on women and family, had managed to secure funding of P250,000 from the women’s party-list Abanse! Pinay. I remember Marie June telling me the amount fell far short of the construction cost when I unveiled the model at last year’s Women’s Day celebration, but that she had “faith that the needed money will be raised.”

* * *

SOON enough, Charlie and Robert Yu went to Silay to take a look at the proposed site of the Women’s Center, a government-owned lot in Hofilena Subdivision, where a Youth Training Center already stood. With the Tan Kit-Yu’s providing the money, the center, an impressive two-story structure, took shape in about three months. After a hurried landscaping job, members of the extended Tan Kit clan, many of them pillars of Silay’s business community, women-sector leaders of Silay, and visitors from Bacolod City and Manila, were sitting under white tents celebrating the concrete manifestation of Tan Kit’s role in Silay’s development, and his daughter’s and extended family’s continuing commitment to the city. (Abanse! Pinay’s money was used to buy furniture and equipment for the Center.)

Vice Mayor Jay Jalandoni, after reading the city council resolutions recognizing the Tan Kit-Yus’ philanthropy and naming the street in front of the Women’s Center “Tan Kit Road,” remarked with some irony that “we can’t seem to thank the Tan Kit family enough” for their generosity.

But as long as the Women’s Center stands, providing shelter, counseling, training and networking opportunities for Silay’s women, the gratitude of the city -- and of women everywhere -- will know no bounds.



Copyright 2006 Inquirer. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=77453&col=79

[kyle@1008]

THe IT centers and their locations..... dunno if anyone posted this yet.... :)





Project Name Lopue's San Sebastian I.T. Center
Location Corner Araneta and Sebastian Streets, Bacolod City
Area 5,824 square meter lot
15,280 gross floor erea
Estimated Project Cost existing
Preferred Industries IT related enterprises
Status Approved by the PEZA Board on 25 April
2006 under BR. No. 06-182

Documents to be submitted for the processing
of Presidential Proclamation:

a. Verified Survey Returns and Technical Description;
b. HLURB Zoning Certification;
c. ECC
Operator/Developer Lopue's San Sebastian Corporation
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Leonito D. Lopue
Chairman of the Board/President
Telephone Number (034) 433-3171
Fax Number (034) 433-1479

Project Name Lopue's East I.T. Center
Location Burgos Street corner Carlos Hilado Highway, Bacolod City
Area 20,000 gross floor area
10,000 square meter lot
Estimated Project Cost existing
Preferred Industries IT related enterprises
Status Approved by the PEZA Board on 27
February 2006 under BR No. 06-066

Documents to be submitted for the processing
of Presidential Proclamation:
a. Verified Survey Returns and Technical Description;
b. HLURB Zoning Certification;
c. ECC
Operator/Developer Marketing One Unlimited, Inc.
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Billy D. Lopue
President
Telephone Number (034) 435-2561 to 66
Fax Number (034) 435-2562 to 66

Project Name De La Rama Center
Location 12, Luzuriaga Street, Bacolod City
Area 2,474 square meter lot
10, 874.70 - gross floor area
Estimated Project Cost existing
Preferred Industries IT related enterprise
Status Approved by the PEZA Board on 28 March
2006 under Board Resolution No. 06-119

Documents to be submitted for the processing
of Presidential Proclamation:
a. Verified Survey Returns and Technical Description;
b. HLURB Zoning Certification;
c. ECC
Operator/Developer De la Rama Brothers Development Corporation
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Eduardo M. Alunan
President
Telephone Number (034) 441-1138
Fax Number (034) 441-1138

Project Name Bacolod Information Technology Park
Location Barangay Estefania, Bacolod City
Area 20,000 square meter lot
Project Cost (fully developed)
Status Approved by the PEZA Board on 28 November
2005 under B.R. No. 05-418
Documents to be submitted for the processing
of Presidential Proclamation:
a. Verified Survey Returns and Technical Description;
b. HLURB Zoning Certification;
c. ECC
Operator/Developer Sunimoh Incorporated
Contact Person Haris N. Nandwani
President
Telephone Number (034) 435-2568
Fax Number (034) 433-3352

Project Name The Block
Location Barangay Villamonte, Bacolod City
Area 11,655 square meter lot
Estimated Project Cost Php 53,997,000.00
Lot Owner Fernando F. Gonzaga, Inc.
Status Approved by the PEZA Board on
13 October 2005 under BR. No. 05-366

For Presidential Proclamation
Operator/Developer Fernando F. Gonzaga, Inc.
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Dennis Jalbuena
Vice President - Real Estate
Telephone No. 0920-9041922

Project Name Robinsons Metro Bacolod
Location Araneta Street, Singcang, Bacolod City
Area 10,000 square meter lot
17,767 gross floor area
Estimated Project Cost (fully developed)
Status Registered on 08 February 2006 under
Registration Certificate No. EZ-06-05

Proclaimed on 27 December 2005 under
Presidential Proclamation No. 963

Approved by the PEZA Board on 26 October 2005
under BR No. 05-391
Operator/Developer Robinsons Land Corporation
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Ms. Sonia Zabian
Telephone Number (02) 637-1670
Fax Number (02) 634-5277

Project Name Monfort Information Technology Building
Location 22nd Street, Lacson, Bacolod City
Area 780 - square meter lot
2,284 - square meter floor area
Estimated Project Cost existing
Preferred Industries IT related enterprises
Status Approved on 28 March 2006 under Board
Resolution No. 06-123

Documents to be submitted for the processing
of Presidential Proclamation:
a. Verified Survey Returns and Technical Description;
b. HLURB Zoning Certification;
Operator/Developer Monfort Motor Center Corporation
Equity Participation
(by Nationality) 100% Filipino
Contact Person Ricardo Enrique Cory S. Monfort
Chief Executive Officer
Telephone Number (034) 435-2089
Fax Number (034- 435-1684

[sugarboy]

^^NABANHAW si KYLE!

[Dinho]

^^NABANHAW si KYLE!

Good to see you back Kyle!!!

[chymera00]

Monday, May 29, 2006
Bacolod soon to have Special EcoZone
By Erwin Ambo S. Delilan

AMID the controversy hounding the Bacolod Real Estate Development Corporation (Bredco), its president Simplicio Palanca is embarking into another noble project that will ultimately make Bacolod City as one of the economic hubs in the country.

Palanca, in an interview last Saturday, revealed that he is now applying for a permit to build a special economic zone within the 80 hectares now being reclaimed at the northern portion of the Bacolod Reclamation Area.

Arroyo Watch: Sun.Star blog on President Arroyo


Palanca, a known real estate mogul, said his company aims at building numerous factories within the City to complement the establishment of SM City, which is being built at the reclamation area.

Establishing an ecozone, he added, will also generate more job opportunities for Bacoleños and Negrenses.

"Before this year ends, I assure Bacoleños that their City will have its special ecozone which is somewhat similar to that of the Calabarzon area in Luzon," he said.

Palanca said though this is not the first ecozone to be established in the province, its viability and operational effectiveness is novel.

This is because the reclamation area is a potential venue for an ecozone because of its existing port of international standard.

Aside from the port, a giant mall, a hospital, a condominium and a hotel will also rise at the site.

The reclamation area has a total 130 hectares titled land property with the Bacolod Pavillion Resort and Restaurant already in existence. It is also managed by Bredco.

He, on the other hand, said that if the City plans to push through with its plan in taking over the port operation of the Bacolod Port from Bredco then it should go to court.

Any negotiation or renegotiation move is futile, he said.

[BYAHILO]

thanks sa news chy...

its great to read news like that.. daw naga damo na rason ko mag pauli ako sa bacolod for good. aheheh

btw... dayun plano ta sa october ha...

[rooster2369]

PLAN FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL
OF THE CITY OF ILOILO, PHILIPPINES

I. Introduction

The city of Iloilo, capital of the province of Iloilo is situated in the southeastern part of the island of Panay. It is the commercial, administrative and cultural center for the Western Visayas region, which comprises the entire island and the neighboring island of Guimaras and province of Negros Occidental. The city is a major seaport with its excellent harbor protected by the island of Guimaras. It serves as a transit point for domestic shipping plying the central and southern islands of the Philippine archipelago. The city has no major industries. Its economy is chiefly dependent on the administrative, service and retail sectors. The population of the city is approximately 350,000 and that of the whole region is around 5,600,000 in 2000.


II. Objective

The master plan for the city calls for the enhancement of its capabilities as the administrative, commercial and cultural center of Western Visayas. It also calls for the creation of a sustainable light industrial base to provide jobs for the growing population.

Central to these aspirations are the creation and development of a large attraction area and a light industrial park, the construction of essential infrastructure and the improvement of existing ones, the development of attractive residential communities and squatter settlements, and the creation of new medical, educational and recreational facilities.

III. Major Developments

A. The Center
The attraction area, which is to be tentatively called as “The Center” will be designed as a pedestrian area with a central square as the anchor. Within walking distance from the center of the square will be a new city hall, hall of justice, government office buildings, a cultural center, a big library, a sports center, private office buildings, major banks, a convention center, hotels, and shopping malls.

B. Light Industrial Park
A light industrial park with its own port will be established on reclaimed land. The park’s focal point will be the processing of the products from large agricultural farms in the region, but it will also focus on the information technology-related industries.

C. Infrastructure
With the construction of a new international-standard airport outside the city, air travel will be more efficient to and from the city. The Port of Iloilo will be expanded with additional berthing and container handling facilities. A bulk handling terminal and a ferry terminal will also be constructed. A marina, which will shelter boats and yacht coming from beach resorts in Guimaras, will also be developed. A circumferential expressway, encircling the city limits, and a north-south expressway will be constructed. The north-south expressway will start from Zarraga and end in the Oton-Tigbauan boundary. The existing expressway (B. Aquino Avenue) will be upgraded and extended up to the new international airport in the Sta. Barbara-Cabatuan area. Other main arteries will be improved.

D. Communities
Strong control on the development of private villages will be implemented, while squatter communities will be provided with fully developed settlements by the city. Anti-squatting laws will be strictly imposed.

E. Other Facilities
A new medical center, an IT training institute and a sports complex will be constructed, while a park system will be established.

jubailo urban institute

[Sinjin P.]

Level 1 alert up over Kanlaon

The Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology raised Alert Level 1 over Mount Kanlaon in Negros Occidental Monday after the volcano showed signs of unrest, DZMM reported.

Neri Amparo of the Office of the Civil Defense said PHIVOLCS raised the alert after monitoring dark-colored clouds that went as high as 800 meters from the summit.

Amparo said the Provincial Disaster Coordinating Council has already warned residents from entering the volcano's four-kilometer danger zone.

The Kanlaon alert followed a similar warning over Mount Bulusan in Sorsogon after the volcano spewed ash last week.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?StoryId=40825

[J_lim2k2]

PLAN FOR THE URBAN RENEWAL
OF THE CITY OF ILOILO, PHILIPPINES

I. Introduction

The city of Iloilo, capital of the province of Iloilo is situated in the southeastern part of the island of Panay. It is the commercial, administrative and cultural center for the Western Visayas region, which comprises the entire island and the neighboring island of Guimaras and province of Negros Occidental. The city is a major seaport with its excellent harbor protected by the island of Guimaras. It serves as a transit point for domestic shipping plying the central and southern islands of the Philippine archipelago. The city has no major industries. Its economy is chiefly dependent on the administrative, service and retail sectors. The population of the city is approximately 350,000 and that of the whole region is around 5,600,000 in 2000.


II. Objective

The master plan for the city calls for the enhancement of its capabilities as the administrative, commercial and cultural center of Western Visayas. It also calls for the creation of a sustainable light industrial base to provide jobs for the growing population.

Central to these aspirations are the creation and development of a large attraction area and a light industrial park, the construction of essential infrastructure and the improvement of existing ones, the development of attractive residential communities and squatter settlements, and the creation of new medical, educational and recreational facilities.

III. Major Developments

A. The Center
The attraction area, which is to be tentatively called as “The Center” will be designed as a pedestrian area with a central square as the anchor. Within walking distance from the center of the square will be a new city hall, hall of justice, government office buildings, a cultural center, a big library, a sports center, private office buildings, major banks, a convention center, hotels, and shopping malls.

B. Light Industrial Park
A light industrial park with its own port will be established on reclaimed land. The park’s focal point will be the processing of the products from large agricultural farms in the region, but it will also focus on the information technology-related industries.

C. Infrastructure
With the construction of a new international-standard airport outside the city, air travel will be more efficient to and from the city. The Port of Iloilo will be expanded with additional berthing and container handling facilities. A bulk handling terminal and a ferry terminal will also be constructed. A marina, which will shelter boats and yacht coming from beach resorts in Guimaras, will also be developed. A circumferential expressway, encircling the city limits, and a north-south expressway will be constructed. The north-south expressway will start from Zarraga and end in the Oton-Tigbauan boundary. The existing expressway (B. Aquino Avenue) will be upgraded and extended up to the new international airport in the Sta. Barbara-Cabatuan area. Other main arteries will be improved.

D. Communities
Strong control on the development of private villages will be implemented, while squatter communities will be provided with fully developed settlements by the city. Anti-squatting laws will be strictly imposed.

E. Other Facilities
A new medical center, an IT training institute and a sports complex will be constructed, while a park system will be established.

jubailo urban institute

That's a great planning for Iloilo but I thought this thread is for BACOLOD and NEGROS OCC.??? arent you supposed to post that in the Iloilo thread? :)

[J_lim2k2]

Tuesday, June 06, 2006
Leonardia chooses donated lot for new City Hall
By Roberto L. Bacasong

THE Bacolod City Government has finally chosen the site of the new government center.

Mayor Evelio Leonardia disclosed that the one-stop government center will no longer be constructed in Barangay Taculing but in the five-hectare property owned by the Gonzaga family in Barangay Villamonte near the circumferential road.

Jose Ma. Zayco, vice president-external affairs of the Metro Bacolod Chamber of Commerce and Industry (MBCCI), lauded the decision, saying that the new city hall should not be placed in a crowded area.

Leonardia earlier wanted the city-owned lot in Barangay Taculing as the site for the new government center.

But it was met with protests from several city council members, the MBCCI and the Barangay Taculing officials themselves.

Former councilor Monju Guanzon also protested over the choice and even offered to donate their family-owned property in Barangay Mansilingan.

With his final choice, Leonardia got the nod of the business chamber.

Councilors Greg Gasataya and Homer Bais also said they will respect the mayor's decision.

Leonardia said the Angela Estate Inc., which is managed by the heirs of the late Fernando and Angela Gonzaga, donated the lot.

He said the City Hall committee headed by City Administrator Lorendo Dilag has visited the site for evaluation.

He also believes that within the week the City will able to complete the requirements by the Land Bank of the Philippines (LBP) for the proposed P400 million loan.

"The LBP promised us 45 days upon the submission of the requirements. When it will be approved by the members of the City Council the construction will start between the months of September and October," Leonardia said.

Businessman Jose Vicente Tanpinco, one of the heirs of Fernando Gonzaga, confirmed the donation of five hectares of the 18-hectare property.

As to accessibility, Tanpinco believe it's not a problem.

"The road can be widened to four to six lanes," he said.

City Councilor Dindo Ramos, chairman of the committee on traffic and transportation, said there is a pending road development project of the national government in the area.

That, as he said that there was an endorsement about the road-widening project at the circumferential road during the stint of former mayor Luzviminda Valdez.

He also said there will be jeepneys plying the Cabug and Mandalagan routes, among others.
Dilag, for his part, said the project is a giant step for Bacolod.

"The area was recommended by the committee when the City Planning and Development Office saw the potential of the area," he said.

He said the property is ideal for the new city hall, adding that there is no problem with the drainage system because there is a creek in the area.

Meanwhile, Yong Yong Cuenca, also a Gonzaga heir, said that the value of their lot is estimated at P140 million.

He said the lot where the Burgos Public Market is constructed was donated by their grandfather (Fernando) to the city.

The area at the East Block where the first call center, I/O Asia, is housed is also donated by their family, he said.

"It is also part of our sacrifice of donating the land property to the city but we believe in the leadership of our local politicians," said Cuenca.

Zayco supported the mayor's decision, saying that Taculing is just suitable as an academic area.
The Bacolod City National High School and the Bacolod City College are located in the area.

[Dinho]

Tuesday, June 06, 2006
Leonardia chooses donated lot for new City Hall
By Roberto L. Bacasong

THE Bacolod City Government has finally chosen the site of the new government center.

Mayor Evelio Leonardia disclosed that the one-stop government center will no longer be constructed in Barangay Taculing but in the five-hectare property owned by the Gonzaga family in Barangay Villamonte near the circumferential road.

Jose Ma. Zayco, vice president-external affairs of the Metro Bacolod Chamber of Commerce and Industry (MBCCI), lauded the decision, saying that the new city hall should not be placed in a crowded area.

Leonardia earlier wanted the city-owned lot in Barangay Taculing as the site for the new government center.

But it was met with protests from several city council members, the MBCCI and the Barangay Taculing officials themselves.

Former councilor Monju Guanzon also protested over the choice and even offered to donate their family-owned property in Barangay Mansilingan.

With his final choice, Leonardia got the nod of the business chamber.

Councilors Greg Gasataya and Homer Bais also said they will respect the mayor's decision.

Leonardia said the Angela Estate Inc., which is managed by the heirs of the late Fernando and Angela Gonzaga, donated the lot.

He said the City Hall committee headed by City Administrator Lorendo Dilag has visited the site for evaluation.

He also believes that within the week the City will able to complete the requirements by the Land Bank of the Philippines (LBP) for the proposed P400 million loan.

"The LBP promised us 45 days upon the submission of the requirements. When it will be approved by the members of the City Council the construction will start between the months of September and October," Leonardia said.

Businessman Jose Vicente Tanpinco, one of the heirs of Fernando Gonzaga, confirmed the donation of five hectares of the 18-hectare property.

As to accessibility, Tanpinco believe it's not a problem.

"The road can be widened to four to six lanes," he said.

City Councilor Dindo Ramos, chairman of the committee on traffic and transportation, said there is a pending road development project of the national government in the area.

That, as he said that there was an endorsement about the road-widening project at the circumferential road during the stint of former mayor Luzviminda Valdez.

He also said there will be jeepneys plying the Cabug and Mandalagan routes, among others.
Dilag, for his part, said the project is a giant step for Bacolod.

"The area was recommended by the committee when the City Planning and Development Office saw the potential of the area," he said.

He said the property is ideal for the new city hall, adding that there is no problem with the drainage system because there is a creek in the area.

Meanwhile, Yong Yong Cuenca, also a Gonzaga heir, said that the value of their lot is estimated at P140 million.

He said the lot where the Burgos Public Market is constructed was donated by their grandfather (Fernando) to the city.

The area at the East Block where the first call center, I/O Asia, is housed is also donated by their family, he said.

"It is also part of our sacrifice of donating the land property to the city but we believe in the leadership of our local politicians," said Cuenca.

Zayco supported the mayor's decision, saying that Taculing is just suitable as an academic area.
The Bacolod City National High School and the Bacolod City College are located in the area.

Great new J_Lim. Our new government center may be built on a loan but I am sure it will be very well worth it Since they won't be building a mere city government center. This would complement the present provincial government center at the lagoon area. Our provinical capitol may look small but its entire planning and landscaping is very well laid out and orderly unlike those of other provinces in region 6.

[rooster2369]

That's a great planning for Iloilo but I thought this thread is for BACOLOD and NEGROS OCC.??? arent you supposed to post that in the Iloilo thread? :)

:) Para magdamo-damo man ang posts dire. Ang Iloilo naka 19th thread na. :)

[Dinho]

:) Para magdamo-damo man ang posts dire. Ang Iloilo naka 19th thread na. :)

I guess most Bacolenos just don't give a heck whether Bacolod is bigger or better than its sister city in Panay. And yet Bacolod, which was nothing but a village when Iloilo was already a city over a hundred years ago, is now about the same as Iloilo in almost every aspect. Give it a few more decades and Bacolod might even grow faster due to its dynamic economy and its location in one of the most resource rich island in the country.

[sugarboy]

:) Para magdamo-damo man ang posts dire. Ang Iloilo naka 19th thread na. :)

ok lang na chief. amo man gid na ya ang mga taga negros....may pagka-apathetic. ti pa-kis-a kis-a lang kami ga post :) we'll get to our 19th thread in five years. :rofl:

[rooster2369]

ok lang na chief. amo man gid na ya ang mga taga negros....may pagka-apathetic. ti pa-kis-a kis-a lang kami ga post :) we'll get to our 19th thread in five years. :rofl:

:D :D :D

[J_lim2k2]

Great new J_Lim. Our new government center may be built on a loan but I am sure it will be very well worth it Since they won't be building a mere city government center. This would complement the present provincial government center at the lagoon area. Our provinical capitol may look small but its entire planning and landscaping is very well laid out and orderly unlike those of other provinces in region 6.


yes indeed. I was glad to hear the news that it would be build there instead of the taculing site. that would be a new growth really for Bacolod and Negros. the east side of Bacolod is now developing. you can see that on the lopues-east area.

This is something we can have not just dreams and plans. the opening of SM, the openings of more call center, the goverment center, the New Bacolod airport, the new power plant in Murcia town and more ... would jump start Metro Bacolod into a more Progresive Metro and as a Province.

[BYAHILO]

its a great news to hear that finally.... our leaders have selected an area for the new city hall. its good that the location is away from the "downtown" area, or the central business district. para t least mag lapta naman ang negosyo sa bacolod indi lang ara sa downtown tanan.

Next question now is.. What will they do to the existing city hall? what about the fountain of justice?

i hope they wont dare touch/remove that fountain of justice kay may heritage value ina.

[J_lim2k2]

:) Para magdamo-damo man ang posts dire. Ang Iloilo naka 19th thread na. :)

yeah, gani man... amo gid na di gro? lately daw indi active ang Bacolod-Negros Occ. thread. Because I guess daw wala man gid dalagko nga balita. except now be the new goverment center of bacolod. I heard daw maconstruct man ang Iloilo but medyo una lng kami(bacolod) construct. People in the this thread daw wala mn gid ga paki kung pila na ka thread.. is that true? ;)

[J_lim2k2]

I guess most Bacolenos just don't give a heck whether Bacolod is bigger or better than its sister city in Panay. And yet Bacolod, which was nothing but a village when Iloilo was already a city over a hundred years ago, is now about the same as Iloilo in almost every aspect. Give it a few more decades and Bacolod might even grow faster due to its dynamic economy and its location in one of the most resource rich island in the country.

there is this exhibit lately in bacolod showing old photos and history of Bacolod. there i read that during those time when bacolod was converted into a new city it was very difficult for the leaders to develop to what it is now. bacolod was rivaling Silay and Pulupandan which were more develop than bacolod during that time. people going north usually ducts at Silay from Manila or Iloilo while people going south usually ducts at pulupandan. During that time Bacolod was not the center of commerce and hub of Negros.

So I guess we can really be Proud of Bacolod and we can really give credit to our ancestors who worked hard for making Bacolod what it is now.

[J_lim2k2]

More details about the Goverment Center Site.




Gonzagas donate P140M
property for gov't center
BY CHRYSEE SAMILLANO

Bacolod Mayor Evelio Leonardia announced yesterday that he has chosen the 5-hectare property being donated by the Gonzaga family as the site of the new government center for Bacolod City.

Leonardia said the property, estimated to cost more than P140 million, is located along the circumferential road in Brgy. Villamonte and is approximately 500 meters away from Lopue's East Center in Burgos Extension.

"This is a major leap for Bacolod City because this project is something that we have dreamt of for so long and things will now push through because of this development," he said.

Leonardia said the Gonzaga property is something that the city has not considered before for the simple reason that it was not presented earlier. Had it been presented earlier together with the other possible sites, it would have been his number one choice, he said.

"This is a better site than Taculing and I believe this is a blessing for which I thank the Gonzaga family for," Leonardia said. I believe that within this week the requirements of Land Bank of the Philippines will be submitted and we hope to submit to the Sangguniang Panlungsod pertinent papers pertaining to the proposed loan of P400 million, he said.

Leonardia said LBP promised that upon submission of the papers it would release the loan in about 45 days.

He said the construction of the project is being estimated by City Administrator Lorendo Dilag to start in September or October considering that the city will get a loan and pass through the SP.

The Gonzaga family were represented yesterday by Jose Vicente Tanpinco and Jose Cuenca during a press conference at the City Hall.

To show you the sincerity of the family, they have already executed a draft of the deed of donation, and we have basically agreed on all the major points involved, Leonardia said.

Dilag said the City Planning and Development Office, based on its matrix, made a unanimous recommendation to the Mayor that the Gonzaga property is the best site for a government center over the other possible sites. He said the city also thanks all the owners who offered their properties to the city for the project.

Tanpinco said his family decided to donate 5 hectares of their 18-hectare land to the city after a meeting with Councilors Homer Bais and Jude Thaddeus Sayson last month.

He said the councilors asked him if the Gonzaga family can open up a road right of way at the Bacolod Murcia Milling Company property because it has an access to the circumferential road. He said the family corporation's board of directors decided to donate the 5-hectare property to the city after he discussed the matter with his cousins and sister.

Tanpinco said their grandfather Padoc Gonzaga donated the land being occupied by Burgos Market to the city and also the FF Gonzaga Elementary School. So there is no reason why we could not donate a property for the city hall since we believe in the leadership of the present mayor and members of the SP, he said. The property we are donating has a frontage of 160 meters, he added.

Cuenca said the price of their residential lots costs P2,800 per square meter so 5 hectares is about P140 million. But what we are donating to the city is a prime commercial property, he said.

Leonardia said the circumferential road is actually the EDSA of Bacolod so we are actually putting the new government center in the main artery that is going to serve the whole city of Bacolod.

Since the circumferential road is a national highway, the city will try to come up with its share for its development particularly on the areas proximate to the new government center, he said.

We will need the budget of the national government to totally develop the circumferential road which is supposed to connect the city to the new Bacolod airport in Silay, he added.

Councilor Dindo Ramos said there is a pending application for a developmental route along the area and when the government center pushes through, this will be realized.

Leonardia said he is appealing for the cooperation of the SP and asked the Council that the project be given top priority in their agenda. He said those present yesterday have already expressed their full support to the project referring to Councilors Ramos, Bais, Greg Gasataya and Jocelle Batapa-Sigue.*CGS

[J_lim2k2]

its a great news to hear that finally.... our leaders have selected an area for the new city hall. its good that the location is away from the "downtown" area, or the central business district. para t least mag lapta naman ang negosyo sa bacolod indi lang ara sa downtown tanan.

Next question now is.. What will they do to the existing city hall? what about the fountain of justice?

i hope they wont dare touch/remove that fountain of justice kay may heritage value ina.


I heard from the interview from the mayor that the City hall will remain the City hall. thats why they're Building a government Center not a City hall. meaning the office of the mayor will still be on the current city hall. only the government offices will move including the office of the vice-mayor and city councel, city enginners office, city health office, which will be separated from mixing people going to the health office and other offices, other offices etc... then the mayor will have a satelite office on the new government center. specialy for ceremonial purposes and receiving guest. I also heared that they will put up a park in the Government center like the park at the Capitol and they will also put up cultural center in the government center building and other facilities.

I just hope that everything that the mayor said will be put into reality not just simply PLANS as it always was.

[rooster2369]

yeah, gani man... amo gid na di gro? lately daw indi active ang Bacolod-Negros Occ. thread. Because I guess daw wala man gid dalagko nga balita. except now be the new goverment center of bacolod. I heard daw maconstruct man ang Iloilo but medyo una lng kami(bacolod) construct. People in the this thread daw wala mn gid ga paki kung pila na ka thread.. is that true? ;)

Hi, J lim... Basi mauna kami guro patindog city hall kay dugay na namon na identify ang site kag may design na kami. We are now in the process of looking for temporary offices for the city hall employees.

[J_lim2k2]

Hi, J lim... Basi mauna kami guro patindog city hall kay dugay na namon na identify ang site kag may design na kami. We are now in the process of looking for temporary offices for the city hall employees.


Hi rooster. thats good kay bati ko daw congested nagid da ang city hall nyo like ours. anyway let see lng if who's gona start first. I'll bet for Bacolod syempre... hehehe. bisan sin-o mag-una either way ok mn lng. whats important is my development sa aton lugar.

[Pacific_leopard]

helo bacolod! .... hehehe... nami guid da ya... specially sa mambukal kag hinigaran... i also like fortune towne... Bacolod is realy improving rapidly... like Iloilo too... ginprove gid sang two cities(Iloilo and Bacolod) that they are the orig "Twin Cities" of the Philippines... Go Bacolod!

[J_lim2k2]

helo bacolod! .... hehehe... nami guid da ya... specially sa mambukal kag hinigaran... i also like fortune towne... Bacolod is realy improving rapidly... like Iloilo too... ginprove gid sang two cities(Iloilo and Bacolod) that they are the orig "Twin Cities" of the Philippines... Go Bacolod!


Hello Pacific! nice to see you here visiting Bacolod-Negros Occ.

[Pacific_leopard]

Hello Pacific! nice to see you here visiting Bacolod-Negros Occ.


thanks... hehe like most people in Iloilo and Negros... half-negrense, half-Ilonggo ako...so almost every year naga visit ko da...

[J_lim2k2]

thanks... hehe like most people in Iloilo and Negros... half-negrense, half-Ilonggo ako...so almost every year naga visit ko da...


Ic... My ancestors are also from Panay.. Antique i think or Iloilo. and also China. hehehe I think almost evryone in Panay-Negros are relatives or has a relative living Across the two Island.

Taga diin kamo di sa Negros?

[lewdsaint]

It is nice to see Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread is in active right now. Let's help each other for progress.

Bacolod and Iloilo - The Twin Cities to progress

[lewdsaint]

Spain grants P14-M for Bacolod waste management

Bacolod City -- Spanish Ambassador to the Philippines Ignacio Sagaz visited the city as bearer of the good news and witness of the city's Grand Santacruzan.

Only three countries were chosen by the Spanish government to give the grant and Philippines is one other than Vietnam and China. The country was one of the priority areas in the South East Asian Region and Bacolod City was chosen through the initiative of Mayor Evelio Leonardia.

The P14 million grant was given to fund the solid waste management program of the city.

According to Ambassador Sagaz, only Bacolod City of all the LGU's in the Philippines submitted a proposal for the Solid Waste Management Program.

The grant will be given directly to a Spanish contractor who will perform the job on Solid Waste Management project and the city will benefit from the project after its completion.

Sagaz, who is married to a Filipina, appreciated the Grand Santacruzan thanking the Bacoleños and the Filipinos in general for preserving an important tradition handed down by the Spanish.

Leonardia on the other hand expressed that, Bacolod is very lucky to have the Ambassador join the celebration despite the fact that many cities in the country are also celebrating the Santacruzan.

"You have to make your city cleaner, so you will not experience what industrialized county like Spain, having polluted environment. Growth should be sustainable," Sagaz stressed.

In time for the awarding of the grant, a delegation of Barangay Captains from the Municipality of Mariveles in the Province of Bataan also visited the city for a study-tour on the city's existing solid waste management programs.

"We have chosen Bacolod City as one of our destinations because we have heard of its exceptional progress and development especially on economic growth," according to Mr. Jose C. Villapando, Sr., President of the Liga ng mga Barangay of Mariveles.

Link : http://www.thenewstoday.info/2006/06/07/spain.grants.p.14.m.for.bacolod.waste.management.html

[J_lim2k2]

It is nice to see Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread is in active right now. Let's help each other for progress.

Bacolod and Iloilo - The Twin Cities to progress

lets keep it active! post na kamo da... Mga resident posters di saku gro ky daw wala na sila lately ga post di. thats why the activity here slowed specially last time.

[lewdsaint]

J_lim..., your family name is Lim? My lola is also Lim from Negros Occ., her middle name is Quimsing. My grandparents and my father were all from Negros Occ., they were migrated to Iloilo after WWII. I don't know the specific place in Negros but my father was born in Sto. Nino. I will ask my titos what specific place in Negros.

[J_lim2k2]

J_lim..., your family name is Lim? My lola is also Lim from Negros Occ., her middle name is Quimsing. My grandparents and my father were all from Negros Occ., they were migrated to Iloilo after WWII. I don't know the specific place in Negros but my father was born in Sto. Nino. I will ask my titos what specific place in Negros.

Lim is my family name. I got few Lim relatives here in the Phils. coz my Grandfather was from the mainland, came here pre world war. hmm... probably our grandparents knew eachother?

[lewdsaint]

Basi pa man lang. Pero wala gid ako gawa may kilala nga mga relatives sang lola ko sa Negros, sa Iloilo lang siguro may pila pa ako nakilala. She also told us that her parents were from Fujian. Indi na 'ko kapamangkot sa 'ya kay wala na sya.

Lim is my family name. I got few Lim relatives here in the Phils. coz my Grandfather was from the mainland, came here pre world war. hmm... probably our grandfathers knew eachother?

[BYAHILO]

its really nice to see nga nabahnhaw na naman from hibernation ang Bacolod thread! ahaha

hala sige banat post!

[BYAHILO]

HELP NEEDED:

peeps, i need a complete list of Negros occidental's list of festivals with date when ti si held.. from san carlos city, down to hinobaan.

paki post lang diri tani.. thanks

i have been trying to access the Neg Occ's web site pero its seems nga down na ini dugay na..


THANKS GD!!!

[tigidig14]

wow its my first time seeing the intro for this thread. im really amaze, sinhino
good job :applause: im serious this time :)

[Christendom]

yeah, gani man... amo gid na di gro? lately daw indi active ang Bacolod-Negros Occ. thread. Because I guess daw wala man gid dalagko nga balita. except now be the new goverment center of bacolod. I heard daw maconstruct man ang Iloilo but medyo una lng kami(bacolod) construct. People in the this thread daw wala mn gid ga paki kung pila na ka thread.. is that true? ;)


yeheeeyyyyy....dats ryt...ang mportant s metro bacolod r well known to his prgressiv & development as being a 4th metropolitan n d philippines.

BACOLOD'S NIGHT LIFE'S
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bacolodcitynightlife.jpg
www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bacolodnytlyfgoldenfield.jpg

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)

[J_lim2k2]

Basi pa man lang. Pero wala gid ako gawa may kilala nga mga relatives sang lola ko sa Negros, sa Iloilo lang siguro may pila pa ako nakilala. She also told us that her parents were from Fujian. Indi na 'ko kapamangkot sa 'ya kay wala na sya.


So I guess they really knew eachother or mybe had met before guro. considering nga jutay population sg chinese community during those time. Distant relatives ta if your from fujian also. kay ang majority sg LIM ara sa fujian. medyo dominant ta sa fujian. there was even a time before that all 9 governors of fujian are Lims. My grandfather(Lim) is from Xiemen City, Fujian Province. decease naman both grandparents ko. so I guess we'll never know. anyway are you also a Filipino-chinese or na totally absorb kana sg Filipino blood?

[hezron]

wow! after seeing the introduction by sinjin, i agree bacolod could be well, the 4th major city in the philippines. cagayan de oro could not post something like that. they live and die with their limketkai only. nice job bacolod!

[J_lim2k2]

wow! after seeing the introduction by sinjin, i agree bacolod could be well, the 4th major city in the philippines. cagayan de oro could not post something like that. they live and die with their limketkai only. nice job bacolod!

Yow, thats right, Bacolod is not just a mid-sized highly urbanized city. It is Officially A metro, the 4th metro in the philippines. bounded by 3 cities and 2 Towns. Metro Bacolod is developing faster than the other Cities now. I jsut hope it would continue to develop that fast or even faster.

[J_lim2k2]

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1074/bacolod0113jo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9040/bacolod0171hu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8969/bacolod0275vj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9416/bacolod0280ps.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4192/bacolod0246fs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3002/bacolod0184aw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/258/bacolod0255rv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7092/bacolod0227rc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Just an update on:

the the Capitol Lagoon area. They have finish there cleaning and repair now or maybe almost finish. the statues there (the lady with a Carabao and the Man with a Carabao) is now restored to its original color which is Gold. the Pond last last time was evacuated, now its back with new Tilapia fish I guess.

the Fountain of justice fronting city hall is functioning again.

[Christendom]

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod.jpg [BR]
future improvement of hospital (at the back a 12/f building)
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod2.jpg

THE RIVERSIDE MEDICAL CENTER (DR. PABLO TORRE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL)

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)

[Christendom]

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_dbpbacolod.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_dbpbacolod1.jpg
DEVELOPMENT BANK OF THE PHILIPPINES

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_pnbbacolod.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_pnbbacolod1.jpg
PHILIPPINES NATIONAL BANK

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)

[Dinho]

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod.jpg [BR]
future improvement of hospital (at the back a 12/f building)
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod2.jpg

THE RIVERSIDE MEDICAL CENTER (DR. PABLO TORRE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL)

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)






That looks good. They should add two more floors so Bacolod could have a highrise...


Will be home tomorrow. Kyle, I really don't forget promises I've made so, just contact me so I could get in touch with you when I get home. Would be great to meet some of you guys too. Sugarboy, I am going straight to Bacolod and will be staying in Manila for a couple of hours only. Am not really fond of Manila but I'll look you up if I get another job soon.

[Dinho]

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_dbpbacolod.jpg
DEVELOPMENT BANK OF THE PHILIPPINES
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/bank_pnbbacolod.jpg
PHILIPPINES NATIONAL BANK

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)



At least in Region 6, PNB is still the tallest. I just wish they would clean and fix up the facade soon. They should have painted PNB instead of painting over those beautiful red bricks at the old TRB building in Lacson. I just hate what they did to that building. They should have replaced the glass instead of painting over the red bricks.

[J_lim2k2]

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod.jpg [BR]
future improvement of hospital (at the back a 12/f building)
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/hospital_riversidebacolod2.jpg

THE RIVERSIDE MEDICAL CENTER (DR. PABLO TORRE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL)

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)






are they gonna construct another building aside from the 8-floor Riverside Medical college building? no wonder ka mahal sg developmental fee namon sa riveride kay! anyway where are they gonna build the 12-floor? ang parking lot at the back of the medical arts dira nila iconstruct? i cant picture out the place eventhough riverside student ko.

[IAMME]

Congrats to Bacolod! Google Earth has just provided you with an excellent hi-res image of your city.:okay:

I'm not very familliar with Bacolod but I think this is Panaad Stadium.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/IAMME00/Google%20Earth/Panaad.jpg

[boybleauXx]

wow! after seeing the introduction by sinjin, i agree bacolod could be well, the 4th major city in the philippines. cagayan de oro could not post something like that. they live and die with their limketkai only. nice job bacolod!

:(
Limketkai is a homegrown talent in CDO, yet they are giving Manila or Cebu-founded malls a hell of a competition. I dont think Bacolod's homegrown Lopue's could come close to Limketkai's feat.

[Christendom]

Lopue's East Centre w/ the Annex- Bacolod City
Lopue's South Square- Bacolod City
Lopue's Mandalagan- Bacolod City
Lopue's San Sebastian- Bacolod City
Lopue's Araneta- Bacolod City
Lopue's Kabankalan- Kabankalan City
Lopue's Victorias- Victorias City
Lopue's Sagay- Sagay City
and other cities well be plan to rise on.


http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/malls_lopueseastcentrebacolod.jpg
LOPUE'S EAST CENTRE- Bacolod City

http://www.geocities.com/metropolitanbacolod/malls_lopuessoutsquarebacolod.jpg
LOPUE'S SOUTHSQUARE- Bacolod City

www.metrobacolod.cq.bz (http://www.metrobacolod.cq.bz)

[J_lim2k2]

Congrats to Bacolod! Google Earth has just provided you with an excellent hi-res image of your city.:okay:

I'm not very familliar with Bacolod but I think this is Panaad Stadium.


Yup, that is the panaad stadium. Nice shot..

[boybleauXx]

what happened to the pics?

[J_lim2k2]

:(
Limketkai is a homegrown talent in CDO, yet they are giving Manila or Cebu-founded malls a hell of a competition. I dont think Bacolod's homegrown Lopue's could come close to Limketkai's feat.


how many limketkai do you have there in CDO? im not familiar with CDO. Lopue's is not concentrated on one area thats why you might think it's small.

[IAMME]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/IAMME00/Google%20Earth/Bacolod/negocccapitol.jpg
Capitol(?)

[J_lim2k2]

what happened to the pics?


What pics? the riverside? it disappeared... heheh maybe the host temporarily stop it?

[boybleauXx]

Limketkai has a mall, and a commercial center, they are also into processing thru Limketkai and Sons.

Lopue's has several outside Bacolod branches indeed. But how's Lopues's Bacolod faring it with Gaisano and Robinsons?

Lopue's branches are department stores

[boybleauXx]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/IAMME00/Google%20Earth/Bacolod/negocccapitol.jpg
Capitol(?)

Bacolod has a well planned grids :)

[J_lim2k2]

Limketkai has a mall, and a commercial center, they are also into processing thru Limketkai and Sons.

Lopue's has several outside Bacolod branches indeed. But how's Lopues's Bacolod faring it with Gaisano and Robinsons?

Lopue's branches are department stores

Cant compare that much. Lopues is spread across Bacolod and negros where there is no Gaisano or Robinsons. and Lopues is not into a large mall business its more of a mini mall style.

[J_lim2k2]

Bacolod has a well planned grids :)

Thanks... Bacolod is a new City compare to the other City. maybe Thats why it has a better arteries of roads and structures compare to other cities.

[J_lim2k2]

the google pics is not that new... maybe mga 2004 below ni nga shots.

They even have hi-res shots for San Carlos City. updated Google Earth.

[BYAHILO]

very nice aerial photo of bacolod..

[c0kelitr0]

hi, can somebody make a screenshot of the whole stretch of lizares on google earth? two of my exes live there...i'm planning to bomb both houses hahaha :jk:

[chymera00]

Can anyone post google earth pics of Fortune City?

[J_lim2k2]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6696/sc3jp.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2851/sc17ks.jpg

San Carlos City

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8793/mc9fm.jpg

Murcia Town

[J_lim2k2]

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9008/dt5bu.jpg

Downtown Bacolod

[BYAHILO]

can anybody post a shot of southern bacolod..

sa may baranggay tangub nga area.. sa GSIS. that's 6KMs away from the Capitol

gusto ko makita itsura sang balay namon da as bacolod ehehhe Thanks

[tigidig14]

^^ kung san carlos yun nasan na yung island ng sipaway

[TJ]

yay i can finaly see me haus over the gogel... ehekzzz :P LOL

[J_lim2k2]

can anybody post a shot of southern bacolod..

sa may baranggay tangub nga area.. sa GSIS. that's 6KMs away from the Capitol

gusto ko makita itsura sang balay namon da as bacolod ehehhe Thanks


The area is covered with clouds. Sum-ag lng gid gro ang southern part.

[J_lim2k2]

^^ kung san carlos yun nasan na yung island ng sipaway

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8743/sc21tt.jpg

[c0kelitr0]

ang liit lang pala ng downtown san carlos...

[IMPRESARIO]

MABUHAY ANG REPUBLIKA NG PILIPINAS!!!
IKA-108 TAON NG KALAYAAN


“…but I rejoice more when I contemplate humanity in its immortal march, always progressing in spite of its declines and falls, in spite of its aberrations, because that demonstrates to me its glorious end and tells me that it has been created for a better purpose than to be consumed by flames; it fills me with trust in God, who will not let His work be ruined, in spite of the devil and of all our follies.” Jose Rizal, letter to Fr. Pablo Pastells, Nov. 11, 1892, while in exile in Dapitan

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7784/oyu7wg.png

how about cadiz city? may-ara man satellite pic?

[sugarboy]

hi, can somebody make a screenshot of the whole stretch of lizares on google earth? two of my exes live there...i'm planning to bomb both houses hahaha :jk:

so it was that bad @cokelitro huh?

[J_lim2k2]

MABUHAY ANG REPUBLIKA NG PILIPINAS!!!
IKA-108 TAON NG KALAYAAN


“…but I rejoice more when I contemplate humanity in its immortal march, always progressing in spite of its declines and falls, in spite of its aberrations, because that demonstrates to me its glorious end and tells me that it has been created for a better purpose than to be consumed by flames; it fills me with trust in God, who will not let His work be ruined, in spite of the devil and of all our follies.” Jose Rizal, letter to Fr. Pablo Pastells, Nov. 11, 1892, while in exile in Dapitan

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7784/oyu7wg.png

how about cadiz city? may-ara man satellite pic?


Only Bacolod and San Carlos pa lng ang may hi-res Shots.

[c0kelitr0]

so it was that bad @cokelitro huh?

i was just kidding...both were adorable...i was the biatch! ;)

[sugarboy]

well, when your heart is ready again, you should go back to bacolod and find someone from there. it's undeniable coke. you have a karmic link to that place.

[c0kelitr0]

^^ haha. i do believe so...i might have been a former sacada :lol: who was in love with an haciendero circa 1800's...

[sugarboy]

:lol: unrequited homosexual love in the 1800s! eat your heart out Brokeback Mountain!

[BYAHILO]

hahahaha


HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY EVERYONE!!!

[caloy]

same to you eric dee. we are celebrating it here as well. ugaling kinahanglan ko kwarta, so i have to work. di ako magattend.

and to all fellow ylonggos, happy independence day...

[dexter06]

Hi, i am new here.

Actually, i have been reading posts here a couple of months now. I have been searching the threads including that of "Project on the Rise" but i never read anything about the building being constructed in front of Robinson's Mandalagan. I have asked people around, some say it is a call center (i do not think so), another say it is a hotel and still another says, a condo. The building looks like it will be five to six stories high but the land area where the building stands is quite big, around 1500 to 2000 sqm perhaps (estimate lang).

Does anybody here know about this building?

[sugarboy]

^^the Gochangcos bought the property from the Borromeos. Hotel kuno.

[J_lim2k2]

Hi, i am new here.

Actually, i have been reading posts here a couple of months now. I have been searching the threads including that of "Project on the Rise" but i never read anything about the building being constructed in front of Robinson's Mandalagan. I have asked people around, some say it is a call center (i do not think so), another say it is a hotel and still another says, a condo. The building looks like it will be five to six stories high but the land area where the building stands is quite big, around 1500 to 2000 sqm perhaps (estimate lang).

Does anybody here know about this building?

Hello, Welcome.

the Ground floor of the building will be Apliance centrum i guess and above will will be a sort of hotel-condo-bording house style. unclear paman ang plan be.

[dexter06]

Thank you for the info. The construction looks imposing and not easy to ignore. Kadaku pa sang ino-occupy nga space, lot-wise. So in terms of floor-area, one storey is already big, almost like 2/3 of Robinson's one storey floor area. You don't get to see that kind of building construction often in Bacolod.

A lot of people are asking what it is. I thought it will be an office building. But i prefer it to be a hotel. The city's experience in the last SEAG made us realize that we need more of it. I hope it will not be a condo. With the city's vast space and the numerous "unhoused" subdivisions, i am inclined to believe that people would prefer to buy lots and build houses.

I really would like to see de luxe and first class hotels in Bacolod (belonging to international chains, kahit man lang 4 star chain lang - mercure or century hotel chain or even Days Inn). There has been a lot of business activity going on lately. With the four call centers plus Convergys also deciding on locating here (source: Visayan Daily Star), we expect more people coming to the city often. I really hope Bacolod and Negros attracts more job generating investors so people need not go out of the province to work.

[death327]

:lol: unrequited homosexual love in the 1800s! eat your heart out Brokeback Mountain!


Cool... I've been toying on that kind of idea for my novel.. :)

[sugarboy]

ahh yes soulmaker. you can have that as a topic. note though that it will take a lot of research to keep it within the norms and ongoing events of the period. anything less than the thorough research will make it too unbelievable. ;)

[chymera00]

Thank you for the info. The construction looks imposing and not easy to ignore. Kadaku pa sang ino-occupy nga space, lot-wise. So in terms of floor-area, one storey is already big, almost like 2/3 of Robinson's one storey floor area. You don't get to see that kind of building construction often in Bacolod.

A lot of people are asking what it is. I thought it will be an office building. But i prefer it to be a hotel. The city's experience in the last SEAG made us realize that we need more of it. I hope it will not be a condo. With the city's vast space and the numerous "unhoused" subdivisions, i am inclined to believe that people would prefer to buy lots and build houses.

I really would like to see de luxe and first class hotels in Bacolod (belonging to international chains, kahit man lang 4 star chain lang - mercure or century hotel chain or even Days Inn). There has been a lot of business activity going on lately. With the four call centers plus Convergys also deciding on locating here (source: Visayan Daily Star), we expect more people coming to the city often. I really hope Bacolod and Negros attracts more job generating investors so people need not go out of the province to work.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid208/p0e842dae01b557fd213388305dc73b5a/ee833752.jpg
is the building on the right the one you're talking about?

[c0kelitr0]

^^ and i've been thinking about a movie... :lol: let the novelist write his craft first...then the moviemaker shall get his ideas from it :D actually, it's playing in my mind now...less sex scenes though haha! it should be set in Silay with its great mansions...

questions that come to mind:

how were the sacadas really treated by their landlords?
was friendship between the two end poles of society really possible back then? how about a much intimate one?
---------------

[IMPRESARIO]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid208/p0e842dae01b557fd213388305dc73b5a/ee833752.jpg


almost looks like diversion road in iloilo, :)

[WawaY[625]]

hello bacolod. I was in your city May 28-Jun1 for my barkadas wedding. i like your city, d gaano ma traffic and almost everything is w/in a 5-10 mins drive. (unlike here in Durianburg where home to ofc or malls usually takes me 30 mins to an hour :( )

I enjoyed coffee at kuppa, Cake at Calea plus yung 30" pizza!!!
pos namit gid ang inasal and talaba :D

tapos coffee din pala dun sa isang coffee shop sa Robinsons kasi pwede mag smoke ( bawal kasi dito sa amin mag smoke sa establishements na may bubong :( )

thanks din to the torre family for being very accommodating, d ko alam illonggo pala si Joel torre haha, when we saw him i told my friend magpapicture kami with his tito.. :)

[sugarboy]

^^ and i've been thinking about a movie... :lol: let the novelist write his craft first...then the moviemaker shall get his ideas from it :D actually, it's playing in my mind now...less sex scenes though haha! it should be set in Silay with its great mansions...

questions that come to mind:

how were the sacadas really treated by their landlords?
was friendship between the two end poles of society really possible back then? how about a much intimate one?
---------------

that's not hard to imagine coke. note that the matriarchal figure in the clan often provoked homosexual tendencies in at least one of the sons. when the son would come of age, he would call on one of his childhood playmates to be a real "playmate" on that sensual plane. the subservient playmate would be left with no choice but to reciprocate whatever affection was shown to him as this in turn would provide food for the table of his family back in the hacienda while he....enjoys the luxury of the city. oh my....this tale could be....well, could it be reality? ....:hilarious .

o. enough na. my brain ought not be picked. i'm off to write a novel of my own. :runaway:

...how were the sacadas really treated by their landlords?
was friendship between the two end poles of society really possible back then? how about a much intimate one?
---------------
just a passing note. in the true sense of the word, sacadas do not have landlords. it is the attention to these kinds of details which may ruin the authenticity and veracity of a novel or movie set in good ole Negros :colgate:

[lewdsaint]

Expansion Plans in Bacolod
Teleperformance Meets With Philippines President

PARIS, June 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Teleperformance, a global leader in contact center management - a public company listed at Euronext, ticker symbol FR 0000051807 - Company executives met with Philippines President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and other Government officials on Friday, April 28th and today announced phased expansion plans to double U.S. offshore capacities within the country starting with a new state-of-the-art contact center facility in Bacolod City. Bacolod is located in the Negros Occidental Province of the Visayas Region. Teleperformance currently operates 2 contact center facilities in Metro-Manila comprised of approximately 2,200 workstations and over 3,400 total employees.

The new Bacolod facility will be implemented in August 2006 and is expected to grow to approximately 600 workstations and 900 employees within its first year of operation.

President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo commented: "Teleperformance is one of the most established and most respected contact center outsourcing companies in the Philippines. I believe I speak for all of us when I say we are delighted that, after an extensive evaluation process, a global industry leader of this caliber has made the wise decision to significantly expand operations in our country. Their decision is a direct reflection of the quality of our people, our infrastructure and our positive business climate."

Mayor Bing Leonardia, Bacolod City, added: "The decision by Teleperformance to launch operations in Bacolod underscores the great strengths of our community. This is truly a win-win situation. We provide Teleperformance a wonderful expansion location with many unique advantages to successfully serve their customers.......the world's largest companies. Bacolod City gets hundreds of excellent new job opportunities with an exceptional and financially strong global enterprise."

Dominic Dato, CEO of Teleperformance USA said: "We are very happy to officially announce our Philippines expansion plans starting with the new Bacolod facility. Teleperformance has had tremendous and sustained success serving our U.S. client base in our Metro-Manila operations and we also intend to continue our growth there. We have already previewed our Bacolod facility plans with several key clients and they absolutely love the location, demographics and overall amenities. We have operations in over 40 countries and we are not biased on where we place facilities. It all comes down to delivering the highest value to our clients. Teleperformance has been and continues to be committed to the Philippines based on tangible and significant client benefits and results."

David Rizzo, Teleperformance General Manager - Philippines, stated: "In addition, of course, to her Excellency, Mrs. President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and Mr. Mayor Bing Leonardia, we want to especially thank Mr. Mayor Diding Gamboa of E.B. Magalona, Mr. Vice Mayor Francis J. Jalandoni of Silay City, and Councilor Jocelle Batapa-Sigue, head of the Bacolod City IT Focus team for all of their wonderful insight, help and support in reaching this decision. It's a great day for Bacolod and Teleperformance. We could not have reached this point without the outstanding cooperation we received from all of these esteemed and distinguished representatives."

Daniel Julien, Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Teleperformance commented: "The Philippines is a wonderful place for U.S. offshore services. Our commitment to the country started almost a decade ago when we opened Teleperformance Philippines. We now employ more than 3,000 full-time equivalents. The Filipino people are smart, nice and well educated so it's a pleasure to work with such a quality workforce.

We plan to double our capacities here in the next two or three years and Bacolod has been selected to be one of our main hubs besides Metro-Manila. Mr. Mayor Bing Leonardia, his entire team and the Presidents of the local Universities have been very proactive. We also feel blessed and extremely honored for the visit and support of her Excellency, Mrs. President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. The work force is great and we are sure that Bacolod is going to become the tech support paradise for our agents and clients."


Source : http://www.sys-con.com/read/234367.htm

[lewdsaint]

It's time to create a new Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread!

Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread IV

Go WV!!!

[achernar]

http://sketches.kom.ph/albums/bacolod%20bus%20trip.dir/pc070015.jpg

http://sketches.kom.ph/albums/bacolod%20bus%20trip.dir/pc050002.jpg

bacolod peepz.... do you have pictures of ceres liner buses? pls post here...

[achernar]

here's another...

http://p.vtourist.com/1399601-Bus_to_Bacolod_from_Dumaguete-Bacolod_City.jpg

[dexter06]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid208/p0e842dae01b557fd213388305dc73b5a/ee833752.jpg
is the building on the right the one you're talking about?

Yes, i was referring to that. Its quite big, isn't it? Everybody's asking but nobody seems to know really.

[kyle@1008]

^^ hi dex are you an IS grad of batch 2001????

[sugarboy]

Post Away Folks!

Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301526)

Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=311875)

Bacolod City and Negros Occidental Thread III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=331428)


Maayong Adlaw Sa Inyo Nga Tanan!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/avenidalasalle/Bacolod%20Pics/0nogccpano1.jpg
Negros Occidental Golf and Country Club

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The Clubhouse at Town & Country Negros

[WawaY[625]]

i miss bacolod!!!!
i miss my newfound friends in sugarland!!!!

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[kyle@1008]

fourth thread... already?? I've been gone a long time haven't I..

[kyle@1008]

anyway this are the pics.....

the Places......
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the capitol lagoon at night

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bacolod convention plaza hotel

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the PNB building

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Northdrive

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Riverside Medical Center

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Sorrento

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Casino Filipino Hotel

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Robinson's Place

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Gaisano City

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the Negros Museum

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Lopue's Mandalagan

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Downtown

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Colegio de San Agustin

[kyle@1008]

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more of the lagoon

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Panaad

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the University Courtyard

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Cafe Bob's

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North Bar

[kyle@1008]

The Genteel....

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[kyle@1008]

and then of course, there's the people.....

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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/act8.jpg

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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/kyle_Lark/yan.jpg

Tawhay di Part

[sugarboy]

^^okay pictures mo kyle a! add these:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/p952c87368e3b2c0a6c6559c4dc022665/f401a2b0.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/avenidalasalle/Bacolod%20Pics/bacolodppol.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid169/pacb83e8621c0952e6fc6eb77197c75f0/f401832f.jpg

Other previous Bacolod Threads:

Bacolod and Negros Island Thread I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=190697)

Bacolod and Negros Island Thread II (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=271243&page=1)

[J_lim2k2]

press release:

PRESS RELEASE
Public Information Office-City Mayor's Office
Ref. No. 0606-0017
June 13, 2006

4 to 6-LANER ROAD TO BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG CIRCUMFERENTIAL ROAD
A four to six lane road will be constructed along the circumferential road as part of the plan of constructing the new government center according to Bacolod City Mayor Evelio R. Leonardia, Tuesday, June 13, 2006, during the Executive-Legislative Caucus held at the Bacolod Business Inn. Leonardia said that this would help reduce possible congestion of vehicles in the area.

The Mayor cited some makeovers in the landscape in terms of infrastructure, like the 800 sqm. road at the Doña Juliana Subdivision leading to the government center. Drainage will be no problem since there is a river beside the site, Leonardia said.

Mayor Leonardia suggested to the Gonzaga Family that a cafeteria and other food shops would be installed to cater to the needs of the employees. This will be a big help to our employees who will not have to go to other places to eat during their break, Leonardia added.

The Gonzaga’s offer is more superior in terms of location, shape of lot and value, said Leonardia. Bacolod City Administrator Atty. Lorendo Dilag presented a matrix comparing the other lot offers. The Gonzaga Family’s offer is the more viable, he said. (CMO-PIO/jpc)

[J_lim2k2]

PRESS RELEASE
Public Information Office-City Mayor's Office
Ref. No. 0606-0015
June 13, 2006

BRO. ROLY’S ECONOMIC & BUSINESS COUNCIL 100% BEHIND MAYOR’S CHOICE OF SITE FOR NEW GOV’T. CENTER
Brother Roly Dizon, FSC, Chairman of the Economic and Business Council of Bacolod said that the Council is 100% behind the Mayor’s choice of site for the new government center. This was during the Council’s meeting held at the Conference Room of the City Mayor’s Office, June 9, 2006.
City Mayor Evelio R. Leonardia has indicated his final choice for the site of the new City Hall which is the Gonzaga property 350 meters South of Lopue’s East. The site is a 5-hectare lot donated by the heirs of the late “Padoc” Gonzaga who also donated the lot for the Burgos Market.
Councilor Lyndon Caña suggested planning for a new public market in the vicinity of the new government center, also the rerouting of traffic and the diversion of some vehicles to avoid congestion that may happen later in the site.
The Mayor said that Bacolod might be the one city in the country with the most number of sister cities. He said, this will be a big help in the city’s development and progress. The Economic and Business Council may be an adviser to the Sister-City Council which the Mayor has organized. The city’s progress may be fast tracked with the help of the Economic and Business Council, Leonardia said.
The Council proposed the creation of a databank for the city with the help of some private schools in the locality. The “Night Market” concept was introduced by Bro. Roly and a committee to study its feasibility to be headed by James Chua of the Filipino-Chinese Chamber.
The “Night Market” concept is to give the sidewalk vendors a venue of their own to legitimately sell their wares to the public safely and in a more orderly manner. This concept is also deemed to be another tourist attraction for the city.
Architect Noli Puentevella offered the help of his group, the United Architects of the Philippines, to work hand in hand with the City Planning and Development Office in reviewing the city’s Master Plan.(CMO-PIO)

[kyle@1008]

^^ another market?? that area near Lopue's East is surely getting a lot of development,... haven't been there for a while though... but, two call centers are operating out of there...

[kyle@1008]

The B.C.
Apart from the place, it's the people

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[kyle@1008]

The B.C.
Apart from the place, It's the people

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[sugarboy]

Negros: Lovely, dark and deep

First posted 00:04am (Mla time) June 19, 2006
By Dexter R. Matilla
Inquirer



Editor's Note: Published on page C2 of the June 19, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

NEGROS OCCIDENTAL IS A province teeming with national treasures and cultural heritage sites. And it is for these reasons, among other things, that the region was chosen as special focus for this year’s National Heritage Month (NHM) Festival.

Journalists and National Commission for the Culture and Arts (NCCA) delegates from Manila were flown into the renowned City of Smiles via Air Philippines and billeted at the L’Fisher Hotel in Bacolod for the entire event.

Kicking off the festivities was the opening of the photo exhibit at the Robinsons Place Bacolod, which showcased vintage pictures of the entire province from the collection of longtime resident Joe Lopez.

In the afternoon, the “Aton Panublion (Our Heritage) Cultural Exhibit: Inside Ancestral Homes of Negros” was formally opened at the Sea Breeze Hotel.

On hand during the ribbon-cutting ceremony were NCCA chair Ambeth Ocampo, Tourism Undersecretary Edu Jarque, Negros Occidental Gov. Joseph Marañon and Bacolod Mayor Evelio Leonardia.

Distinguished personalities present include Spanish Ambassador Ignacio Sagaz, Belgian Ambassador Gregoire Vardakis, French Ambassador Gerard Chesnel, Gloria Angara, Tony and Armita Rufino, Melanie Villar, Carrisa Lebron, and C.J. Moreno and Josefa “Paching” Puentevella, wife of Rep. Monico Puentevella. Msgr. Guillermo Gaston led the invocation rites. It should be noted that it was the first time that three different ambassadors were at an NHM event.

Showcased were items from the yesteryears including furniture, framed pictures and traditional clothes. Also on display were photos of ancestral homes that belonged to Bacolod’s Don Mariano Ramos and Dr. Mariano Yulo, the Montillas of Pulupandan Town, and those of Doña Enrica Alunan Lizares, Don Simplicio Lizares, and Gen. Aniceto Lacson, whose manor was once considered the Malacañang of the South.

Heritage tour

The following morning, guide Ramon “Mon” Hofileña, himself a proprietor of a heritage house, treated the visitors to a heritage tour starting with the Bernardino-Jalandoni Museum in Silay City, which is also considered as the Paris of Negros Occidental.

The museum gives guests an idea of how the rich and elite lived during the earlier times and how the “Negros, Sugar Bowl of the Philippines” title came to be.

Next stop was the Church of Saint Joseph the Worker at Victorias City, home of the Victorias Milling Co. Inc. Built in the late 1940s through the efforts of the Ossorio clan, the church has features that represent true Filipino talent and are true cultural treasures.

According to Hofileña, broken glasses gathered by residents of the mill were used in designing the mosaics that decorate the exterior of the church.

Inside, sculptures by Benjamin Valenciano were also something that raised a few eyebrows, especially from religious groups, during the time. Saints were, for the first time, depicted as having Filipino features.

But what could probably be considered as the church’s biggest attraction is the “Angry Christ” mural of Alfonso Ossorio (1916-1990). The colorful artwork—with the majority of the figures in shades of red and yellow—shows Jesus Christ in the middle, with His heart in the middle ablaze and surrounded by thorns, and the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove descending upon Him. It the only one of its kind in the country; it was featured in Life Magazine.

In the afternoon, a short visit at Victorias Milling, which included a free taste of freshly milled sugar, preceded our visit to the Chapel of the Cartwheels in the town of Manapla. Just as the name implies, the chapel is composed mainly of cartwheels, including the cross where a Filipino-looking Jesus Christ is nailed with his hands slightly higher than usual.

It was then on to the Hofileña heritage house where Mon Hofileña’s collection of paintings by National Artists and one sketch of musical instruments—probably a school project by the looks of it—by Jose Rizal left us all in wonderment.

Following a quick printmaking workshop by Hofileña, the group moved on to the Balay Negrense Museum or the Don Victor F. Gastono Ancestral House.

Museum

Found in the heart of the small colonial city of Silay, the museum, entirely made of wood and stone, was constructed at the turn of the 20th century. A vast hall occupies the first floor and is connected with another large corridor in the second floor via a majestic stairway. Twelve bedrooms circle the space surrounded by shutters, hemmed in by carved transoms and permanently aired by trade winds.

In the dining room, the table of red narra is set with fine porcelain, French silver and orchids from the nearby garden. An epitome of the colonial lifestyle, it multiplies the effects with vegetable ornaments, leaf motifs and floral designs in sculpted wood against pale blue paneling.

After a hearty dinner at the museum compliments of Silay Mayor Carlo Gamban, a cultural presentation presented by very talented young performers ensued.

On the final day of the tour, the equally enchanting Silliman University Kahayag Dance Troupe treated the group to another cultural dance number at the Sylvia Manor where Mayor Leonardia hosted lunch afterwards.

As the sun began to set, the Tourism and Performing Arts Society (Tapas) Inc. staged the Ilonggo zarzuela “Dandansoy-Ang Gugma ni Dansoy kag Rosing” or Dansoy’s Love for Rosing. It is based on a true story that happened in the early 1900s when sugar was the prime economy of the island of Negros. Dansoy, a farm worker, meets Rosing, the daughter of an “encargado” (plantation manager) who fell in love despite their social status differences.

“The zarzuela is a wonderful thing,” said Bambi Harper. “Let us hope and pray that this tradition will continue to prosper.”

Capping the night off was the Governor’s Dinner at the Social Hall of the Provincial Capitol.

Although the activities-filled stay was short, the entire event allowed me to have a greater appreciation how wonderful Negros Occidental is. Because more than just a city of smiles, more than a city of cultural heritage, and more than just being a sugar bowl of the Philippines, Negros Occidental is a place that anyone anywhere could consider their home away from home.

E-mail the author at dxmatilla@yahoo.com


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sugarboy's notes : shown below is the residence of Mariano Ramos.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/avenidalasalle/Bacolod%20Pics/Burgoscombo4.jpg

we would always refer to this as "the big house"

[BYAHILO]

wow thread IV na ang bacolod.. mga mods, please make this thread sticky.. para ara pirmi sa ibabaw..

:)

[systematica]

Could someone please mark on a Google Earth map the location and extent of the SM development in Bacolod? I'm curious to see how it relates to the old Plaza.

Also does anyone know if they are planning a park or greenspace in the new reclamation area close to the waterfront? I think it would be nice if they had something at least as big as the Plaza and link the two spaces somehow, whether it's through a mall or galleria, or a linear park/promenade. It would be a shame if they just filled up the new area with buildings and cut the rest of city from the waterfront.

They should do something like the Ramblas in Barcelona, which links a huge plaza (Plaça de Catalunya) with the harbor:
http://www.upf.edu/materials/fhuma/portal_geos/bcn/t5/ramblas.jpg

[sugarboy]

The B.C.
It's not just the place, it's also the people

@kyle, i think it should read...

Apart from the place, It's the people!

[sugarboy]

wow thread IV na ang bacolod.. mga mods, please make this thread sticky.. para ara pirmi sa ibabaw..

:)

partner eric, ngaa daw ka-temprano sa imo subong haw?

[BYAHILO]

partner eric, ngaa daw ka-temprano sa imo subong haw?

sugarboy, naka nighshift ako amo na nga gabi ako naga pos diri.

=)

[sugarboy]

oh i see. what time ka nagatapos? bale nagapa-opisina pa lang ang kalibutan, ikaw going home na?

[BYAHILO]

oh i see. what time ka nagatapos? bale nagapa-opisina pa lang ang kalibutan, ikaw going home na?

korek...

i live in manila but i work US Time. 11:45AM-8:45PM EDT

aheheh

[sugarboy]

ti subong ya ara ka na sa balay mo?

[J_lim2k2]

Could someone please mark on a Google Earth map the location and extent of the SM development in Bacolod? I'm curious to see how it relates to the old Plaza.

Also does anyone know if they are planning a park or greenspace in the new reclamation area close to the waterfront? I think it would be nice if they had something at least as big as the Plaza and link the two spaces somehow, whether it's through a mall or galleria, or a linear park/promenade. It would be a shame if they just filled up the new area with buildings and cut the rest of city from the waterfront.

They should do something like the Ramblas in Barcelona, which links a huge plaza (Plaça de Catalunya) with the harbor:

keep on posting Guys kay daw inactive naman ang Thread naton liwat.

here's the Map:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1593/sm1qe.jpg

[BYAHILO]

ti subong ya ara ka na sa balay mo?


ari na naman ko office. ahehehe

pista gali sa mambukal sa weekend.. kung sino maka pa MudPack Festival post nyo pics di ha


TY

[TJ]

fiesta sa mambukal hmm ma mamasyar ko 2 guro ay.. hehe :)

[BYAHILO]

fiesta sa mambukal hmm ma mamasyar ko 2 guro ay.. hehe :)

hidlaw na ko sang mambukal ah.. i was there last year.. nag simhot lang.. nanyaga lang kag nag lakat man dayun.. wala ko man lang na explore bilog nga place.

hopefully ma include ko sya sa itinerary ko sa october. pero kung indi ti sa january 2007 na lang eh ehehe

[systematica]

here's the Map:
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1593/sm1qe.jpg

Is it really that big? Are they building over that entire site or just part of it? It seems overly massive for downtown Bacolod. If I compare the site scalewise to the Mall of Asia site, they are about the same size... :shocked:

[TJ]

it is big but only 2 stories tall... maybe with also huge parking areas... there will be about 200 stores in there i think with 100 in each building... :)

[kyle@1008]

@kyle, i think it should read...

Apart from the place, It's the people!

nice copy!!,... I'll edit it..... :cheers:

[kyle@1008]

Is it really that big? Are they building over that entire site or just part of it? It seems overly massive for downtown Bacolod. If I compare the site scalewise to the Mall of Asia site, they are about the same size... :shocked:

I don't care bout size.... it should be more about design,... I thank the mall gods, that finally SM has gotten away from it's old shoe box design... like SM baguio, Sta Rosa and MOA with it's innovative appearance,... hopefully SM city bacolod would be the same... :cheers:

[Coffee]

The topic title should read "Bacolod and Negros Occidental". Negros Oriental has a different thread. :)

[kyle@1008]

^^ mmmm... Coffee....

[J_lim2k2]

Is it really that big? Are they building over that entire site or just part of it? It seems overly massive for downtown Bacolod. If I compare the site scalewise to the Mall of Asia site, they are about the same size... :shocked:

the entire lot of SM bacolod is as large as the building of MOA(excluding parking area). but the entire lot will not be constructed with the building. large part of it will be parking spaces siguro. SM bacolod will really change the downtown area for sure.

[J_lim2k2]

Sonedco putting up
ethanol distillery, too

The Southern Negros Development Corp. is putting up an Ethanol Distillery Project in Barangays Camugao and Camansi in Kabankalan City within their sugar mill compound.

The proposed plant is designed to produce 150,000 liters a day of fuel grade anhydrous ethanol using sugarcane molasses as feedstock, a Kabankalan City government press release said yesterday. The product is suitable for gasoline blending to produce in consonance with DOE's Bioethanol program under House Bill 4629 that mandates blending gasoline with ethanol up to 10 percent by 2007, it said.

SONEDCO officials at a public consultation Monday announced the upgrading of their raw sugar to refine sugar after the construction of a refinery to be started in the next milling season.

Ramon Monton, SONEDCO general manager, welcomed the participants representing the DENR-Region VI, EIA Review Committee, Office of the City and Vice Mayor, Office of the Sangguniang Panlungsod, Office of the City Engineer/Building Official, City Planning and Development Office/Zoning Administrator, officials and stakeholders of Brgys Camugao and Camansi, Water District, J.G. Summit Holdings, Inc., Sugar Mill Division, WET Consultancy, Inc. and other institutions in the city.

Yvonne Faldas, DENR-EIA Division Chief gave the objectives and mechanics of the public consultation and an Overview of the Project was given by Jethro Alden Hipe, Jerome Tumaro and Andre Cerbo. An open forum followed.*

[J_lim2k2]

Bacoleños more adept in English
than counterparts in Metro Manila

An assessment conducted by Teleperformance shows that call center applicants from Bacolod have a higher proficiency in English compared to those from Metro Manila, Mayor Evelio Leonardia said in a press release yesterday.

Teleperformance Site Director Richard Loveland and Account Manager Jason Farman told Leonardia in their recent visit to Bacolod that applicants in the city scored higher passing rates compared to their Metro Manila counterparts. Loveland and Farman said that this is one of the reasons why Teleperformance is putting up their multi-million investment here, the press release said.

Leonardia said that one of the considerations for Teleperformance's preference for Bacolod was the study conducted by the Asian Institute of Management, showing the city as one of the top five most competitive cities in the country.

In terms of "infrastructure" and "quality of life," Bacolod even ranked number one.

The Teleperformance executives said that they also considered the peace and order situation and the cleanliness of Bacolod as major factors, the press release said, adding that their company plans to hire about 1,000 employees in the next two years.

Meanwhile, Loveland also spoke at the 6th Visayas Island Congress of the Philippine Councilors League Saturday during a technical session on "Strategies and Inputs for Creating Opportunities in the ICT and Business Process Outsourcing Industries."

At the gathering, Visayas councilors passed a resolution pushing for the creation of a Department of Information and Communications Technology to replace the current Commission on ICT as recommended by business experts, Bacolod Councilor Jocelle Batapa-Sigue, program committee chairman, said in a press release from her office.

She said that the PCL also asked for an increase in the education budget to enable the country to produce skilled and competent manpower for ICT and BPO industry, and for the immediate creation of a Visayas-wide body to address the concerns of ICT and BPO industry in the region, the press release added.*

[kyle@1008]

the entire lot of SM bacolod is as large as the building of MOA(excluding parking area). but the entire lot will not be constructed with the building. large part of it will be parking spaces siguro. SM bacolod will really change the downtown area for sure.
oh , it will.... this will restore Bacolod's ailing downtown area,.... since the mid 90's the focus has always been uptown towards Lacson Street.... SM will give downtown it's old glory, hopefully..... on a darker note SM might suck the business away from all the older structures within the downton area..... :cheers:

[BYAHILO]

oh , it will.... this will restore Bacolod's ailing downtown area,.... since the mid 90's the focus has always been uptown towards Lacson Street.... SM will give downtown it's old glory, hopefully..... on a darker note SM might suck the business away from all the older structures within the downton area..... :cheers:

SM bacolod has a large floor area pero up to 2 storeys lang sila since they are putting up their building on a reclaimed area... i dont think its a wise decision mag pataas bldg sa reclaimed area..

look at MOA. ive ben there.. kag.. well.. naga vibrate gid ya ang salog eh.. especially ang flooring lapit sa foodcourt beside the escalator.

and i have also heard reports nahulod daw ang kisame sang Bo's or Starbucks didto.. good luck na lang... i hope it wont happen to SM-B

kag tani lang.. it will REALLY open in time for the masskara.. hambal sang sis ko.. daw malabo kuno mag open october?? how true..

[sugarboy]

The topic title should read "Bacolod and Negros Occidental". Negros Oriental has a different thread. :)

okay. we'll do that on the next thread. the only way to change it now is to buzz the moderators.

[dexter06]

I really hope more job generating investments will come to Bacolod. I read in the Visayan Daily Star that in the meantime, Bacolod can absorb 5 call centers only. So, with the four call centers plus Convergys following suit, hold muna. I hope other types of investments will still come, such as factory type in the area of electronics and ICT. These types of jobs require skill and manual precision but not necessarily high English proficiency. Since we are pursuing ICT, i hope the local government covers this. The sacrifice in tax revenue through tax incentives will be offset by job creation, increased passenger traffic (more flight frequencies), increased demand for services (hotels, restaurants, malls, house rentals, pension houses, office supplies, computers, utilities, support services such as fastfood near the offices, etc. etc). But having said this, i commend the local government for the good job so far. This is just the start. Imagine what can be accomplished if we build this to further improve and grow our city and province.

As to SM Bacolod, tani may ara French Baker. I also wish other establishments will open at the said mall. Though i do not expect all, but i wish at least some of these will open a branch - Yellow Cab Pizza, Starbucks, Giftgate, Marks and Spencer, Tokyo Tokyo, Wendy's, Subway, Pancake House, Sugarhouse, Dulcinea.

[J_lim2k2]

SM bacolod has a large floor area pero up to 2 storeys lang sila since they are putting up their building on a reclaimed area... i dont think its a wise decision mag pataas bldg sa reclaimed area..

look at MOA. ive ben there.. kag.. well.. naga vibrate gid ya ang salog eh.. especially ang flooring lapit sa foodcourt beside the escalator.

and i have also heard reports nahulod daw ang kisame sang Bo's or Starbucks didto.. good luck na lang... i hope it wont happen to SM-B

kag tani lang.. it will REALLY open in time for the masskara.. hambal sang sis ko.. daw malabo kuno mag open october?? how true..

I think so, it will be in time for masskara. this is a private building not like government building nga if wala budget halt anay. the construction firm is i think also owned be SM and they're workin 3 shifts in 24hrs. the construction is goin smoothly so far so I think in time gid ni. not unless there would be technical problems.

we cant really compare MOA to the situation of SM-B. but I hope wala lng tani safety problem that would occur sa SM-B.

[J_lim2k2]

oh , it will.... this will restore Bacolod's ailing downtown area,.... since the mid 90's the focus has always been uptown towards Lacson Street.... SM will give downtown it's old glory, hopefully..... on a darker note SM might suck the business away from all the older structures within the downton area..... :cheers:

including traffic and human volume in the Downtown area would be increase. I hope they can push through building the proposed Coastal road and widening of the streets entering reclamation and specially the widening of San Juan street. we need more arteries in the Downtown area.

that's what in my mind also. those stores and shops, even the Lopue's department stores there, would be greatly affected and also the small ones in the downtown area would be greatly affected. some of them are more than 20yrs old stores but it might closed down because of competition againts SM. but anyway competitions is healthy and are pro-consumers.

[dexter06]

^^
Actually, that is the dilemma not only here in Bacolod, but in the Philippines and Asia as well. Maybe, in the first few months of SM-B's operation, the competition will be felt. But after a few, say 4 to 6 months, when the dust has cleared, some of the innovative and unique establishments downtown will survive. I am thinking, the downtown will house offices and discount stores while the retailers at SM will be specialty shops and even other out of town-based retailers. Come to think of it, if there are jobs that will be affected downtown, say 500 to 1000, but around 3000 new jobs will be created by an SM. Also, it will be a venue for the more innovative and forward thinking retailers. You see, some of the retailers in the downtown area are also traditional and just content with old style ways of retailing. New and younger entrepreneurs are more quality driven, cost conscious and love what they do rather than doing it to earn money fast. I know of young entrepreneurs who sell cool quality shirts and garments at Php 250 to 300 at a mall in Manila and Makati, the same price a more inferior shirt (quality and design) will cost in Baclaran. So, why is it that these retailers can sell at that price considering that they pay higher rents at the mall.

All i am saying is, there are pros and cons with the opening of the mall, but at the end of the day, it is the consumers that win. Remember when PAL monopolized air transportation. We were subjected to very expensive airfares. But with the entry of Cebu Pacific, only did we realize that puwede naman pala ang deeply discounted fares. Panalo consumers and even more people from different socio economic levels take the plane nowadays.

[BYAHILO]

including traffic and human volume in the Downtown area would be increase. I hope they can push through building the proposed Coastal road and widening of the streets entering reclamation and specially the widening of San Juan street. we need more arteries in the Downtown area.

that's what in my mind also. those stores and shops, even the Lopue's department stores there, would be greatly affected and also the small ones in the downtown area would be greatly affected. some of them are more than 20yrs old stores but it might closed down because of competition againts SM. but anyway competitions is healthy and are pro-consumers.


i just want to share to you what happened to Pure Gold lately in Pampanga..

they have a branch in Dau, mabalacat. and. Frankly, pirmi sila gutok since wala sila big competition.

but when SM Clark finally opened up last May, half of Pure Gold patrons have already moved to SM.

even on weekends diutay na lang ang naga park sa PureGold.

i hope this wont happen in Bacolod

[kyle@1008]

^^ or maybe the mall would..... bring in more customers to the downtown area... what is good with the place is the fact that it's pedestrian friendly and all the buildings are interconnected... :colgate:

[rooster2369]

Basi ang matabo sa Bacolod, baliskad sg natabo sa Iloilo. Sa Iloilo, tungod kay malayo ang SM City sa downtown, daw ghost town ang Calle real kun weekends. Siguro indi ini matabo sa Bacolod bangod lapit lang ang SM sa downtown Bacolod. Buot silingon, kun diin ang SM, didto ang tawo. No offense sa Robinson's...

[TJ]

i think that would never happen as bacolod has many neigboring towns and people from those towns always go to bacolod everyday or everyweekend. That's why even if bacolod has a lesser population density than iloilo but it's downtown area is always jampacked with lots of people compared to iloilo's downtown. And maybe SM could help lessen it :)

[IMPRESARIO]

Basi ang matabo sa Bacolod, baliskad sg natabo sa Iloilo. Sa Iloilo, tungod kay malayo ang SM City sa downtown, daw ghost town ang Calle real kun weekends. Siguro indi ini matabo sa Bacolod bangod lapit lang ang SM sa downtown Bacolod. Buot silingon, kun diin ang SM, didto ang tawo. No offense sa Robinson's...


Calle Real in iloilo is old but is still full of essential and specialized stores. stores/shops found there have there own niche (the area undergoing a revival thru ICCHC council), maayo gani na para ma decongest ang traffic in calle real, iloilo city is spreading further and further out, as evidenced by our 4th SM (supermarket) in Jaro Town Square in Quintin Salas Jaro (going to zarraga),etc..

Anyway good for Bacolod, hope SM bacolod would be a success and revive and improve the local economy. :)

[death327]

Basi ang matabo sa Bacolod, baliskad sg natabo sa Iloilo. Sa Iloilo, tungod kay malayo ang SM City sa downtown, daw ghost town ang Calle real kun weekends. Siguro indi ini matabo sa Bacolod bangod lapit lang ang SM sa downtown Bacolod. Buot silingon, kun diin ang SM, didto ang tawo. No offense sa Robinson's...

i think that would never happen as bacolod has many neigboring towns and people from those towns always go to bacolod everyday or everyweekend. That's why even if bacolod has a lesser population density than iloilo but it's downtown area is always jampacked with lots of people compared to iloilo's downtown. And maybe SM could help lessen it :)

Based from my experience in the city…. The reason why medyo ghost town, take note medyo but not totally ghost town, na ang downtown it was because there are also huge malls within the vicinity of downtown, we have the Marymart Mall and Robinson Mall in the area, including the Paseo sa Iloilo, where I think most people are going every weekend. Also, I don’t believe that the area would be a real ghost town because as far as I know there are churches within the city area, like Doane Baptist Church, San Jose Church and Santa Terisita church and most ilonggos are doing church routine every weekend and right after that they would spend their time in having some leisure trip in malls, in the downtown, in the parks, etc. I never ever encountered a dead (no activity) Calle Real even during weekends. Cguro patay lang Calle Real pag early in morning around 1:00 am to 4-5 am.

Good for Bacolod that you have already an SM there. :)

[daks2003]

Definitely ang daku nga maigo sini is Robinsons. In every place where there is a rob and an sm...dehado gid pirmi ang rob...maski nauna pa sya, once an sm mall operates...hatak gid dayon sang sm ang iya market

Basi ang matabo sa Bacolod, baliskad sg natabo sa Iloilo. Sa Iloilo, tungod kay malayo ang SM City sa downtown, daw ghost town ang Calle real kun weekends. Siguro indi ini matabo sa Bacolod bangod lapit lang ang SM sa downtown Bacolod. Buot silingon, kun diin ang SM, didto ang tawo. No offense sa Robinson's...

[tigidig14]

meron ba kayong picture ng port ng sancarlos, negros
thats the cleanliness port ive seen all through out pnas
i was really amaze, well, that was back in 02, i hope it didnt change

[nykz020732]

dako2 gid ya sm bacolod.. i was there last day and i saw the construction of sm bacolod.. its reli big! sabi nila 36 hectares daw ang land area.. WOW!!! now i hav d reason to visit bacolod again.. hehe.. Btw good day to all especially to all bacolod forumers.. kip posting! tnx sa lahat na nag post.. God Bless!

[c0kelitr0]

^^ SM Bacolod is actually small...it's just 59,000 sq meters. 36 hectares is too big, SM Mall of Asia is not even close to 36 hectares... ;)

[rooster2369]

^^ SM Bacolod is actually small...it's just 59,000 sq meters. 36 hectares is too big, SM Mall of Asia is not even close to 36 hectares... ;)

In that case, SM Bacolod would just be a neighborhood mall. It is only half the size of SM City-Iloilo (101,735 sq. m. versus 53,865 sq. m.). In terms of land area, SM City-Iloilo is slightly bigger (17.5 hectares as opposed to 16 hectares only for Bacolod).

Among the SM malls (supercenters not included) Bacolod is the smallest. Next is SM City-Lucena at 72,057 sq. m. SM Supercenter-Valenzuela, at 61,460 sq. m., is even bigger than SM Bacolod.

Pila kuno ka sinehan ang ma-accommodate ya?

[Dinho]

In that case, SM Bacolod would just be a neighborhood mall. It is only half the size of SM City-Iloilo (101,735 sq. m. versus 53,865 sq. m.). In terms of land area, SM City-Iloilo is slightly bigger (17.5 hectares as opposed to 16 hectares only for Bacolod).

Among the SM malls (supercenters not included) Bacolod is the smallest. Next is SM City-Lucena at 72,057 sq. m. SM Supercenter-Valenzuela, at 61,460 sq. m., is even bigger than SM Bacolod.

Pila kuno ka sinehan ang ma-accommodate ya?

At least the SM Bacolod will be known for being the smallest SM City. But I think that its foot print of 28,000 sq. m. will be bigger than SM City Iloilo's since its 101,000 sq. m. is divided up into at least four levels. When I arrived last June 8, I was actually surprised to see that the mall structure is taking up most of the present reclamation area.

I also heard that SM has also purchased the old Tasimico compound in Talisay City, Metro Bacolod for future development. I wonder when Ayala would build its own mall at the Talisay border? I just saw a Ford dealership going up near the Honda Car showroom. The Robinson's Metro Mall in southern Bacolod still has a Shakey's and some other shops. A call center is operating on the ground floor. Lopue's South Square is still very much open and is the best place to shop if you hate crowded shopping malls.

[WawaY[625]]

off topic

talisay city.metro bacolod? is that official already?

on topic

id rather have a mall with smaller total floor area but bigger footprint (like SM bacolod) than a bigger floor area (vertical devt) with small footprint (SM city Manila)

[Dinho]

off topic

talisay city.metro bacolod? is that official already?

on topic

id rather have a mall with smaller total floor area but bigger footprint (like SM bacolod) than a bigger floor area (vertical devt) with small footprint (SM city Manila)



"A metropolitan area is a large population center consisting of a large city and its adjacent zone of influence, or of several neighboring cities and towns and adjoining areas, with one or more large cities serving as its hub or hubs. The core cities in a polycentric metropolitan area need not be physically connected by continuous built-up development, distinguishing the concept from conurbation, which requires urban contiguity. In a metropolitan area, it is sufficient that central cities together constitute a large population nucleus with which other constituent parts have a high degree of integration."

from wikipedia.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/AyalaNorthpointNEW.jpg
border between Bacolod and Talisay

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/dinho1224/NORTHMETRObACOLODfinal3b.jpg

Based on the definition above, the area from Silay City up north and Pulupandan down south already makes up what is now Metro Bacolod. There is no need for the government to identify or declare it as such since the definition is clear. Pulupandan and Valladolid should be included as majority of the population on both towns commute daily to work in Bacolod. Pulupandan also functions as the secondary seaport of Metro Bacolod. It was the main entry point for freight before the Bacolod's Bredco port became fully developed. Bago is included since this is where some of the main industries that serves Bacolod are located. In fact the area between Bacolod and Bago is rapidly becoming built up so you could say that conurbation is also happening along this corridor. Some people might disagree because the highway to Bago City proper seems a bit rural because it veers away from Downtown Bago. Silay, Talisay and Murcia serve more as the dormitory communities for Metro Bacolod, though, soon enough Silay will be the air transport hub and Talisay will soon become one of the commercial centers for Bacolod. Murcia is the primary rest & recreation area.

One other thing I have noticed about metropolitan areas is the presence of at least one other city in its area of influence. This is true for Metro MAnila, Metro Bacolod, Metro CEbu, Metro Davao, and all the metropolitan areas in the USA as well.

The World Gazetteer website has already recognized Metro Bacolod as the 4th major metropolitan area because it fits the definition of what a metropolis should be. Iloilo and CDO could not yet be considered as such thought they are both comparable to Bacolod because they have no adjacent cities as yet.

http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&dat=32&geo=-171&srt=npan&col=aohdq&va=&pt=a (http://)

[WawaY[625]]

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[Dinho]

sorry dinho not hijacking your thread but in an urban planning book ive read, a metropolitan area has to have at least a million people...(or was that a metropolis..) plus in the philippines setting, for a place to be called metro (which i believe only CEBU and MANILA are metros since seamless ang transition between one city and another (ie;;manila, makati..cebu and mandaue..hindi mo mapapansin na nasa isang city ka na..) thats why i dont subscribe to the METRO DAVAO tag as the transition between davao and panabo city, sta.cruz, tagum isnt seamless..ive been to bacolod and so is the case (plus the fact that only cebu and manila have metropolitan authorities) :D

peace

Uh, there is no minimum population for a metropolis. I have read a lot of books and articles regarding this and I haven't yet come across anything saying that it should have at least 1m minimum population to be considered as such. The important thing is that a metropolis should be made up of at least one major city and another neighboring city plus towns. These towns and cities should function together in order for it to be a metropolitan area. Conurbation is not even a requirement for a metropolitan area to be considered as such so long as they all function together.

I think you were confusing the definition of a metropolis which is Metro Davao & Metro Bacolod, and megapolis which is Metro Manila & Metro Cebu to some extent.

[WawaY[625]]

well, ive read that one book, let me look for it though (college days pa kasi) and oh, only MM is mega, cebu isnt yet..DAVAO and BACOLOD arent there yet..they just dont have the metro feel.then again this is bacolod thread thats why i deleted my previous post..

[Dinho]

well, ive read that one book, let me look for it though (college days pa kasi) and oh, only MM is mega, cebu isnt yet..DAVAO and BACOLOD arent there yet..they just dont have the metro feel.then again this is bacolod thread thats why i deleted my previous post..

You didn't have to. I'm not upset with you at all. You seem to have that misconception that a metropolis should be a superbuilt-up, superbusy agglomeration when the definition of a metropolis doesn't even have require it to be built-up continously. Metro Manila isn't a metropolis anymore. It already belongs in the category of megapolises made up of metropolitan areas that are almost completely built up and with a population of more than 5 million. And I guess you are right about Metro Cebu belonging into the same category as Metro Davao and Metro Bacolod.

[WawaY[625]]

Glad youre not upset as i wasnt really picking up a fight :D,i just wanted to dicuss things about our perspective of when a city deserves to be called METRO.. its just that as i see it our cities arent there yet urbanity wise to be called metros

[Dinho]

Glad youre not upset as i wasnt really picking up a fight :D,i just wanted to dicuss things about our perspective of when a city deserves to be called METRO.. its just that as i see it our cities arent there yet urbanity wise to be called metros

I disagree. Bacolod, Cebu, and Davao are now recognized, together with Metro Manila, as the four major metropolitan areas in the Philippine Islands as based on the definition and all four are recognized as such by the business community and foreign "Urbanity" websites.

[WawaY[625]]

even so, we still dont see addresses (ie establishments, houses) written as Silay City, Metro Bacolod or panabo City, Metro Davao just yet..

so technically, Davao and bacolod may be metro bacolod and metro davao, but to the in practice (and in the view of most people) theyre still Davao city and bacolod City :D

[Dinho]

even so, we still dont see addresses (ie establishments, houses) written as Silay City, Metro Bacolod or panabo City, Metro Davao just yet..

so technically, Davao and bacolod may be metro bacolod and metro davao, but to the in practice (and in the view of most people) theyre still Davao city and bacolod City :D

Ayala Land, Active Land and residents in the residential communities of Ayala Northpoint, Ayala Plantazionne, Town & Country Windsor-Cambridge list their mailing address as Talisay City, Metro Bacolod especially because there is also a Talisay City, Metro Cebu. We already lost some documents because the insurance company sent it to Talisay City, 6115 Philippines.

[WawaY[625]]

what about other cities? Silay for instance?

[Dinho]

PROPERTY FOCUS
Real estate firm lauds
Negros family sanctuary
Posted: 2:59 AM (Manila Time) | Oct. 11, 2002
By Tessa R. Salazar
Inquirer News Service

Nature enthusiasts

HOME to nature enthusiasts where Mount Kanlaon rises 8,100 feet -- the highest in central Philippines -- Negros Occidental is also home to several marine sanctuaries and caves. It is also known as the sugar capital of the Philippines.

The provincial capital Bacolod is where one also finds several challenging golf courses, making it the golfing center in the Visayas. It was recently adjudged as the most competitive city in terms of quality of life. It is also described as the equivalent of Cebu 10 years ago. It has wider, cleaner roads with vast tracts of lands.




Bacolod is part of Metro Bacolod, which includes three other cities -- Talisay, Silayan and Bago. Talisay City, which is 2.5 km away from Bacolod, is making ripples lately as the "ultimate" retirement haven and family sanctuary.

Ayala Land Inc. (ALI) strokes its magic in Talisay. In 1997, a high-end residential project called Ayala North Point was launched. It became a sanctuary and retirement haven for the affluent. It has claimed at least 90 percent of the relative market share in the area. With Phase 1, the average lot cut was 515 sq. m and the average package price was 2.5 million pesos.

Of the buyers of Ayala North Point properties, 60 percent are based in Manila and abroad such as the United States, London and United Arab Emirates. Some buyers are Negrenses married to expatriates, investing in a probable retirement home.

"Negrenses from the AB market bought multiple lots, and the average purchase was 2.8 lots," said ALI division manager Tetta B. Baad. "Some buyers even bought eight to 11 lots and some bought 500-sq.-m lots only to be used as their garages," she observed.

But there would be another type of market, as ALI would later realize. A large segment described as "aspirational" also wanted to get an Ayala property in Talisay City but couldn't because the package price of Ayala Northpoint was beyond their means. Recognizing that, ALI decided that it would develop a more affordable residential project, which offers the same Ayala formula but at a more affordable range.

ALI developed the Plantazionne Verdana Homes situated beside the posh Ayala North Point to address the clamor for smaller, cheaper property. Plantazionne is located in a property fully owned by ALI. To date, it consists of 159 lots.

A physical demarcation line between Ayala Northpoint and Plantazionne is a river. ALI is building a four-lane 40-m private bridge that will connect Ayala Northpoint to Plantazionne.

The Northpoint is served by its own spine road and has its own gate. Northpoint and Plantazionne have separate clubhouses, amenities and leisure facilities. Plantazionne's 1.3-ha. Spanish Mediterranean-inspired clubhouse contains a swimming pool, basketball and volleyball courts, a function room and a kiddie playground.

This article is 4 years old already so there really is no point in trying to prove that Bacolod is not yet a metropolis as evidenced by this article from a national daily. Also, Ayala Land says so and this company would never make a statement which isn't true.

[WawaY[625]]

like i said, they are both metros, technically they are, its just although they are, most people wouldnt perceive them to be metros

[ritche]

@dinho you already in bacolod?

[Dinho]

@dinho you already in bacolod?

Yup! You planning to visit Bacolod?

[ritche]

be in dumaguete soon...dunno maybe i can make a side trip...

[rooster2369]

At least the SM Bacolod will be known for being the smallest SM City. But I think that its foot print of 28,000 sq. m. will be bigger than SM City Iloilo's since its 101,000 sq. m. is divided up into at least four levels. When I arrived last June 8, I was actually surprised to see that the mall structure is taking up most of the present reclamation area.

I also heard that SM has also purchased the old Tasimico compound in Talisay City, Metro Bacolod for future development. I wonder when Ayala would build its own mall at the Talisay border? I just saw a Ford dealership going up near the Honda Car showroom. The Robinson's Metro Mall in southern Bacolod still has a Shakey's and some other shops. A call center is operating on the ground floor. Lopue's South Square is still very much open and is the best place to shop if you hate crowded shopping malls.

Speaking about "footprints", the "footprint" of SM City-Iloilo is 180 meters x 200 meters. That makes it 36,000 sq. m.. That "footprint" is carried up to the second level only. The third level has a smaller area, while the fourth level has an even smaller area. So, if what you said about SM Bacolod's "footprint" is true, then SM City-Iloilo has a bigger "footprint than SM Bacolod.

[kyle@1008]

SM bacolod would have an innovative design compared to older SMs,... Henry Sy has finally realized that the old box design won't cut it.... SM city Sta Rosa as I have seen it was different so was SM city Baguio and MOA. Although SM city bacolod is albeit smaller its design is similar to MOA... Its like MOA with only two floors (yes, MOA only has two floors) with bridges interconnecting the different areas of the mall, the big difference is the fact that MOA consists of four buildings.... while dat in Bacolod has two.........

[blueguy]

SM bacolod has a large floor area pero up to 2 storeys lang sila since they are putting up their building on a reclaimed area... i dont think its a wise decision mag pataas bldg sa reclaimed area..

look at MOA. ive ben there.. kag.. well.. naga vibrate gid ya ang salog eh.. especially ang flooring lapit sa foodcourt beside the escalator.

and i have also heard reports nahulod daw ang kisame sang Bo's or Starbucks didto.. good luck na lang... i hope it wont happen to SM-B

kag tani lang.. it will REALLY open in time for the masskara.. hambal sang sis ko.. daw malabo kuno mag open october?? how true..


Well the vibration you felt at MOA is just but normal for a building with steel structure as reinforcements, especially the bridge area passing over the skating rink... The ceiling that dropped near Starbucks area was the fault of one tenant contractor, they did not coordinate with the admin to install pipes for the sprinkler, that's why the ceiling gave in.

SMBD will definitely not open on October...there are a lot of things pa to build...siguro the best guess would be December. (Is your sister working at SM? just PM me....)

[blueguy]

Speaking about "footprints", the "footprint" of SM City-Iloilo is 180 meters x 200 meters. That makes it 36,000 sq. m.. That "footprint" is carried up to the second level only. The third level has a smaller area, while the fourth level has an even smaller area. So, if what you said about SM Bacolod's "footprint" is true, then SM City-Iloilo has a bigger "footprint than SM Bacolod.


SMBD will have a bigger footprint than SMCI, but the bad thing is most of the lot at SM Bacolod will be developed only 4 ha remains as compared to Iloilo which has still bigger undeveloped area.

SM Bacolod will be similar to SM CDO in size but with innovative design. Unlike before when SM mall designs came by batch, this time, each mall will have its unique identity.

Other malls to watch out for. SM Pasig (Fonterra Verde), SM City Lipa, SM City Marikina, SM City Antipolo and SM City Muntinlupa....

[blueguy]

^^
Actually, that is the dilemma not only here in Bacolod, but in the Philippines and Asia as well. Maybe, in the first few months of SM-B's operation, the competition will be felt. But after a few, say 4 to 6 months, when the dust has cleared, some of the innovative and unique establishments downtown will survive. I am thinking, the downtown will house offices and discount stores while the retailers at SM will be specialty shops and even other out of town-based retailers. Come to think of it, if there are jobs that will be affected downtown, say 500 to 1000, but around 3000 new jobs will be created by an SM. Also, it will be a venue for the more innovative and forward thinking retailers. You see, some of the retailers in the downtown area are also traditional and just content with old style ways of retailing. New and younger entrepreneurs are more quality driven, cost conscious and love what they do rather than doing it to earn money fast. I know of young entrepreneurs who sell cool quality shirts and garments at Php 250 to 300 at a mall in Manila and Makati, the same price a more inferior shirt (quality and design) will cost in Baclaran. So, why is it that these retailers can sell at that price considering that they pay higher rents at the mall.

All i am saying is, there are pros and cons with the opening of the mall, but at the end of the day, it is the consumers that win. Remember when PAL monopolized air transportation. We were subjected to very expensive airfares. But with the entry of Cebu Pacific, only did we realize that puwede naman pala ang deeply discounted fares. Panalo consumers and even more people from different socio economic levels take the plane nowadays.


You are right...SM will set a new standard for the people of Bacolod City and will bring in a new shopping experience. Just take for exmaple what SM did with Iloilo City... right now they will again open the fourth SM Supermarket in the city, which will be a challenge for Iloilo Supermart, which is a local brand which continues to improve and compete head to head with SM...And look at Diversion road right now...Seven years ago, its just a vast land of salt fields, but right now...several establishments mushroomed...

[BYAHILO]

SMBD will have a bigger footprint than SMCI, but the bad thing is most of the lot at SM Bacolod will be developed only 4 ha remains as compared to Iloilo which has still bigger undeveloped area.

SM Bacolod will be similar to SM CDO in size but with innovative design. Unlike before when SM mall designs came by batch, this time, each mall will have its unique identity.

Other malls to watch out for. SM Pasig (Fonterra Verde), SM City Lipa, SM City Marikina, SM City Antipolo and SM City Muntinlupa....


both my sis and i are from manila pero shes not in any way affliated with SM.. shes was just there in BCd last week nag bisita.. and she saw nga daw alang alang gid kuno mag open ang mall sa masskara.

kanugon.. that would mean big business pa naman tani for the city...

[sugarboy]

hi van, ano na to gani ang email add ni shing defiesta?

[Dinho]

You are right...SM will set a new standard for the people of Bacolod City and will bring in a new shopping experience. Just take for exmaple what SM did with Iloilo City... right now they will again open the fourth SM Supermarket in the city, which will be a challenge for Iloilo Supermart, which is a local brand which continues to improve and compete head to head with SM...And look at Diversion road right now...Seven years ago, its just a vast land of salt fields, but right now...several establishments mushroomed...

I don't think that the presence of SM in Bacolod would drastically affect most of the existing businesses. Lopue's has survived and even expanded despite the presence of Robinson's and a new Gaisano City. Servando's has survived for a long time, though they are closing soon because of the fact that the owner is an aging spinster who doesn't have any close family relative that could continue the business.

[rooster2369]

I don't think that the presence of SM in Bacolod would drastically affect most of the existing businesses. Lopue's has survived and even expanded despite the presence of Robinson's and a new Gaisano City. Servando's has survived for a long time, though they are closing soon because of the fact that the owner is an aging spinster who doesn't have any close family relative that could continue the business.

Right, Dinho. The presence of SM will not drastically affect the existing businesses in Bacolod, because it is too small to do so. If ever, it can only accommodate half of what SMCI can accommodate.

[J_lim2k2]

High-end hotel being
eyed for Mambukal

The construction of a high-end hotel is being eyed at the Negros Occidental provincial government-owned Mambukal Resort in Murcia town, Gov. Joseph Marañon said yesterday.

"Investors have expressed interest in building a first class hotel near the resort and we will study the matter," he said. He added that it is likely that the Capitol will lease some property for the hotel, but this will all depend on the negotiations. Meanwhile, earnings at the resort rose by P2 million this year compared to last year, he said.

From January to May this year Mambukal earned P9.5 million, P7.8 million in 2005, and P7.5 million in 2004, he said. This year the resort earned P 1 million in January, P1.36 million in February, P1.32 million in March, P3 million in April and P2.7 million in May.

To address the problem of brownouts at the resort, Marañon said the provincial government is buying a 250-KVA generator for Mambukal.*CPG

[Dinho]

Right, Dinho. The presence of SM will not drastically affect the existing businesses in Bacolod, because it is too small to do so. If ever, it can only accommodate half of what SMCI can accommodate.

What exactly do you mean? Your sentence construction is too confusing.

[rooster2369]

What exactly do you mean? Your sentence construction is too confusing.

Right, Dinho. The presence of SM will not drastically affect the existing businesses in Bacolod, because it is too small to do so. If ever, it can only accommodate half of what SMCI can accommodate.

What I mean is, you are right in saying that the presence of SM will not drastically affect the existing businesses in Bacolod. Got it?

Then, I proceeded to qualify why it will not affect the existing businesses in Bacolod - because it is too small to affect the existing businesses in Bacolod. Can you follow me?

Then, I said that if ever SM Bacolod gets operational, it can only accommodate half of what SM City Iloilo can accommodate. Still confused?

Maybe you just chose to be confused. :D Peace man....

[WawaY[625]]

why is there such heated rivalry bet visayas' major cities bacolod vs iloilo and cebu vs iloilo..or now lang to?

[IMPRESARIO]

^^ Sibling Rivalry (IC and BC), just plain old sibling rivalry, at the end of the day,we're still family, a one big happy ilonggo family! heheh

[LordCarnal]

^^

The best explanation is there is no such rivalry between the cities...but there are rivalries between some forumers.

[death327]

why is there such heated rivalry bet visayas' major cities bacolod vs iloilo and cebu vs iloilo..or now lang to?


There is no rivalry between Cebu and Iloilo. Cebu has a different path in development while Iloilo will be threading a different path also.

I am not sure with Bacolod and Iloilo.

[Dinho]

Right, Dinho. The presence of SM will not drastically affect the existing businesses in Bacolod, because it is too small to do so. If ever, it can only accommodate half of what SMCI can accommodate.

Nope. The last sentence seemed like you were saying that Bacolod could only accomodate a small SM City.

Truth is, Metro Bacolod is very much capable of supporting bigger malls because of its big population, and its dynamic economy that is not dependent upon the remittances of OFW's. SM is said to have acquired the old Tasimico Compound for future development. Ayala is planning to put up its own shopping center as soon as its residential communities in Talisay City are filled up and sold out. Active has plans to build a shopping mall at the Active Center in Bacolod and at Trafalgar Square in Talisay City. The only setback has been the closure of Robinson's Metro and the pending closure of Servando's. Servando's is closing because the spinster owner is aging while the Robinson's Metro was built in a bad location for a shopping center and the fact that it did not have the drawing power of a big mall with complete facilities.

But then again, Negros Occidental has many shopping centers located outside the capital city unlike your home province where everything, but for UPV, is located in Iloilo City. Lopue's has branches in Kabankalan City, Sagay City, Victorias City, and another one seems to be under construction in Hinigaran. Gaisano has medium sized malls in Kabankalan City and San Carlos City. Dumaguete has several big malls going up for such a small city. And I don't even know what is going on in Cadiz City - the third biggest city in Negros Occidental. This is why Bacolod's malls are not as crowded as Iloilo's malls... but it doesn't mean that Bacoleno's don't have the money to spend, because if they don't, I am sure that Lopue's South Square would have closed a long time ago because the place is almost totally deserted but for a few customers. The few customers who go there are enough to support the entire complex because they spend more money than the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region.

[J_lim2k2]

Nope. The last sentence seemed like you were saying that Bacolod could only accomodate a small SM City.

Truth is, Metro Bacolod is very much capable of supporting bigger malls because of its big population, and its dynamic economy that is not dependent upon the remittances of OFW's. SM is said to have acquired the old Tasimico Compound for future development. Ayala is planning to put up its own shopping center as soon as its residential communities in Talisay City are filled up and sold out. Active has plans to build a shopping mall at the Active Center in Bacolod and at Trafalgar Square in Talisay City. The only setback has been the closure of Robinson's Metro and the pending closure of Servando's. Servando's is closing because the spinster owner is aging while the Robinson's Metro was built in a bad location for a shopping center and the fact that it did not have the drawing power of a big mall with complete facilities.

But then again, Negros Occidental alone has many shopping center located outside the capital city unlike your home province where everything, but for UPV, is located in Iloilo City. Lopue's has branches in Kabankalan City, Sagay City, Victorias City, and another one seems to be under construction in Hinigaran. Gaisano has medium sized malls in Kabankalan City and San Carlos City. Dumaguete has several big malls going up for such a small city. And I don't even know what is going on in Cadiz City - the third biggest city in Negros Occidental. This is why Bacolod's malls are not as crowded as Iloilo's malls... but it doesn't mean that Bacoleno's don't have the money to spend, because if they don't, I am sure that Lopue's South Square would have closed a long time ago because the place is almost totally deserted but for a few customers. The few customers who go there are enough to support the entire complex because they spend more money than the average customer in other malls and shopping centers.


in short Negros is not limited to bacolod alone. unlike in iloilo that most of the development is in iloilo city alone. thats why even upto now bacolod is not as congested as like to other cities in the phils. though Negros has the most number of cities second to NCR. Iloilo city have will more larger buildings in the future due to the fact that it is already congested while in the case of bacolod, vast of land is still available for development thats why investors probably think is best to have several small-medium sized business establishment spread across bacolod and negros than making one large establishment in one area.

for those watchdogs here. Iloilo is indeed congested:

Metro Manila- 41,014 people/km². most populated city in the world.
Quezon city- 13,492/km²
Makati city- 16,260/km²
mandaluyong city- 13,098/km²

Iloilo City- 6533/km²
Bacolod City- 2,657.6/km²
Cebu City- 2565.4/km²
Cagayan de oro City- 785/km²
Davao City- 540/km²

source wikipedia.

[valium]

why is there such heated rivalry bet visayas' major cities bacolod vs iloilo and cebu vs iloilo..or now lang to?

let history speak for itself. iloilo was once a superpower in the philippines, once called the queen city of the south. rivaling manila in many aspects. this is brought about by the higly profitable sugar industry, too much dependence in the sugar industry brought them the sweet blow that made them filthy rich. but ironically, this "sweet blow", the sugar industry, also brought their downfall.

at the time when iloilo is a bustling trade, commercial and educational center, cebu was just a small sleepy town. they cant grow any kind of crop because they are not blessed with the kind of soil that the ilonggos have back in iloilo. they only rely on trade with the visiting chinese merchants, barter trades, shellcrafts and a few corn plantation and some copra.

bacolod meanwhile is just an appendage of iloilo, though it gets a considerable amount of income from the sugar industry, this is nowhere near the amount of what its neighbor across the straight, iloilo, is enjoying, since iloilo has a major port, all goods are delivered to iloilo. bacolod was just a buffer, a vacation town, a "rest house" destination of the filthy millionaires from iloilo. literally, bacolod was overshadowed by the mighty iloilo.

this is where it gets interesting, at the turn of the century, the sugar industry collapsed. and who suffered the most? the highly sugar dependent iloilo, since the sugar industry is in the doldrums, activity in the port of iloilo almost came to a standstill, the few surviving "true" millionaires either went to manila, cebu or to other parts of the country to have a fresh start. put up business and forget about the bitter ending that they had in iloilo. at this time, since money is getting scarce in iloilo, politicians became suckers and acted like vultures to the dying economy of iloilo. graft and corruption became rampant and it sealed the coffin of the old glorious days of iloilo.

at this same time when iloilo was on a spiral downfall. merchants and traders looked for other means of economic survival. they started to notice the port of cebu. cebu became attractive since its people who are really not trained in crop, farming or any major agricultural product, are very much good and well trained in trading and retail. cebu started to gain solid footing in the philippine economic map. activity in the port of cebu became busier than the port of iloilo, the trade of copra spread to leyte and northern mindanao. the transport of people and goods became busier between cebu, eastern visayas and mndanao. businesses were put up since more and more people are beginning to set their base in cebu. chinese merchants who found cebu as an ideal trading place chose to stay and mingle with the locals. (as evidenced up to now, 1/4 to 1/3 of cebu city's population today are of chinese descent, the highest density in any philippine city outside manila). the spanish queen may have given the title the queen city of the south to iloilo, but since the people of the philippines doesnt find iloilo befitting to be called as such, with the presence of cebu, this title was give by the filipino people to cebu city, and this is in contrary to many who are giving reactions that cebu "grabbed" the title for herself.

the rest is what it is now...

but its not yet over for bacolod...

bacolod city, was just a small "town-city" and since iloilo's development almost came to a standstill for decades. bacolod learned from the mistake that its once mighty neighbor had. its people learned not to thread the same path that iloilo had. and it was just recently, 80's to 90's that bacolod started to do an upswing. (this is happening while its sleepy neighbor iloilo was.... well, sleeping) and bacolod is getting a bigger share of economic activity for western visayas. coming to a time that its almost at neck with iloilo, and rivaling iloilo in many ways (iloilo used to rival manila in many ways during her glorious days)

now back to where we are today....

analyze the history and see why iloilo is bitter with bacolod and cebu.

while bacolod and cebu may have been looking for ways and means to prosper even more and try to be more competitive, iloilo is looking at bacolod and cebu for a "take-me-back-to-where-i-belong" and the "i should be in your place" and the "yehey-i-got what-you-dont-have" attitude.

when we say iloilo'S approach to development is different from bacolod and cebu. i say.....

ITS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT!!!!!!

[WawaY[625]]

hmmm, i cant comment as i have no knowledge of this..

anyway, it was an interesting comment..and should i say, when valium speaks...the SSC community takes notice. :D

[Dinho]

let history speak for itself. iloilo was once a superpower in the philippines, once called the queen city of the south. rivaling manila in many aspects. this is brought about by the higly profitable sugar industry, too much dependence in the sugar industry brought them the sweet blow that made them filthy rich. but ironically, this "sweet blow", the sugar industry, also brought their downfall.

at the time when iloilo is a bustling trade, commercial and educational center, cebu was just a small sleepy town. they cant grow any kind of crop because they are not blessed with the kind of soil that the ilonggos have back in iloilo. they only rely on trade with the visiting chinese merchants, barter trades, shellcrafts and a few corn plantation and some copra.

bacolod meanwhile is just an appendage of iloilo, though it gets a considerable amount of income from the sugar industry, this is nowhere near the amount of what its neighbor across the straight, iloilo, is enjoying, since iloilo has a major port, all goods are delivered to iloilo. bacolod was just a buffer, a vacation town, a "rest house" destination of the filthy millionaires from iloilo. literally, bacolod was overshadowed by the mighty iloilo.

this is where it gets interesting, at the turn of the century, the sugar industry collapsed. and who suffered the most? the highly sugar dependent iloilo, since the sugar industry is in the doldrums, activity in the port of iloilo almost came to a standstill, the few surviving "true" millionaires either went to manila, cebu or to other parts of the country to have a fresh start. put up business and forget about the bitter ending that they had in iloilo. at this time, since money is getting scarce in iloilo, politicians became suckers and acted like vultures to the dying economy of iloilo. graft and corruption became rampant and it sealed the coffin of the old glorious days of iloilo.

at this same time when iloilo was on a spiral downfall. merchants and traders looked for other means of economic survival. they started to notice the port of cebu. cebu became attractive since its people who are really not trained in crop, farming or any major agricultural product, are very much good and well trained in trading and retail. cebu started to gain solid footing in the philippine economic map. activity in the port of cebu became busier than the port of iloilo, the trade of copra spread to leyte and northern mindanao. the transport of people and goods became busier between cebu, eastern visayas and mndanao. businesses were put up since more and more people are beginning to set their base in cebu. chinese merchants who found cebu as an ideal trading place chose to stay and mingle with the locals. (as evidenced up to now, 1/4 to 1/3 of cebu city's population today are of chinese descent, the highest density in any philippine city outside manila). the spanish queen may have given the title the queen city of the south to iloilo, but since the people of the philippines doesnt find iloilo befitting to be called as such, with the presence of cebu, this title was give by the filipino people to cebu city, and this is in contrary to many who are giving reactions that cebu "grabbed" the title for herself.

the rest is what it is now...

but its not yet over for bacolod...

bacolod city, was just a small "town-city" and since iloilo's development almost came to a standstill for decades. bacolod learned from the mistake that its once mighty neighbor had. its people learned not to thread the same path that iloilo had. and it was just recently, 80's to 90's that bacolod started to do an upswing. (this is happening while its sleepy neighbor iloilo was.... well, sleeping) and bacolod is getting a bigger share of economic activity for western visayas. coming to a time that its almost at neck with iloilo, and rivaling iloilo in many ways (iloilo used to rival manila in many ways during her glorious days)

now back to where we are today....

analyze the history and see why iloilo is bitter with bacolod and cebu.

while bacolod and cebu may have been looking for ways and means to prosper even more and try to be more competitive, iloilo is looking at bacolod and cebu for a "take-me-back-to-where-i-belong" and the "i should be in your place" and the "yehey-i-got what-you-dont-have" attitude.

when we say iloilo'S approach to development is different from bacolod and cebu. i say.....

ITS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT!!!!!!

Like "Our SM City is double the size of your SM City" and "We have more SM stores than any other city outside Metro Manila"?

HMMM... Bacolod would rather have the distinction of having the smallest SM City and we prefer to have it that way. What we want is for Lopue's to do what Limketkai has done in CDO and Gaisano in Cebu & Davao. We want to see a big Lopue's mall being built and thrive despite the presence of Manila based chains. What is a big SM and Robinson's mall if it is just drawing away the city's finances?

Look at Calea at Robinson's, it is busier than Red Ribbon. My cousins across the Guimaras Strait used to brag about their city having several Red Ribbon bakeshops when Bacolod didn't even have one several years ago. They were wrong to point it out because we were quite happy with having just Calea and Bob's. In fact, Red Ribbon shouldn't even have dared to set foot in Bacolod because Bacolod does have several cafe's and pastry shops that are far superior to it. Perhaps the best thing for them to do is to move their branches to Cadiz City, Kabankalan City, San Carlos City, and Sagay City... where they are sure to have a captive consumer base dure to the absence of Calea, Bob's and other Bacolod based restaurants.

Even Jollibee is struggling to get a bigger market share in Metro Bacolod because Bacoleno's prefer the American flavor over the Pinoy one. Just look at MacDonald's at Lacson St. When I went there last week, I was very surprised of it's interiors. It is the best MacDonald's I've ever seen and I've been to quite a few countries. The interiors were at par with that of five star hotel restaurants. I hope that BluePrint would come out with a feature about it. They even have a MC Cafe next door and WIFI for its very busy customers.

My point is, Bacolod can support any Manila based stores and chains but these Manila based stores should be careful when they invest here lest they suffer the fate of getting embarrassed for not doing as well as in any other Philippine City.

Bacoleno's do have the money but they are always mindful of supporting the best and their own home based businesses. Heck, most of Metro Manila's upscale and exclusive Subdivisions and Condominiums have many Bacoleno residents. Almost all my friends here have at least one condominium in Manila.

Metro Bacolod is not just any like any other Filipino city. It is big enough to be on listed as one of the four major metropolitan areas together with Metro Cebu, Manila, and Davao and yet it exudes a pleasant laid back and small town atmosphere as Gravy Addict has pointed out to us. Bacolod is not a tourist destination just yet because it lacks the "exotic factor" and "Asian factor" so prevalent in all other Filipino cities. Metro Bacolod doesn't need to be a tourist destination because it can stand on its own without relying upon OFW's remittances and Tourist's Dollars. I'd rather reside in a pleasant city than a city crowded with tourists or spoiled OFW's kids. Metro Bacolod is a metropolis that is built for the Negrense and any expatriate who chooses to live in the Philippines because of its relaxed and friendly environment and people.

[rooster2369]

Nope. The last sentence seemed like you were saying that Bacolod could only accomodate a small SM City.

Truth is, Metro Bacolod is very much capable of supporting bigger malls because of its big population, and its dynamic economy that is not dependent upon the remittances of OFW's. SM is said to have acquired the old Tasimico Compound for future development. Ayala is planning to put up its own shopping center as soon as its residential communities in Talisay City are filled up and sold out. Active has plans to build a shopping mall at the Active Center in Bacolod and at Trafalgar Square in Talisay City. The only setback has been the closure of Robinson's Metro and the pending closure of Servando's. Servando's is closing because the spinster owner is aging while the Robinson's Metro was built in a bad location for a shopping center and the fact that it did not have the drawing power of a big mall with complete facilities.

But then again, Negros Occidental has many shopping centers located outside the capital city unlike your home province where everything, but for UPV, is located in Iloilo City. Lopue's has branches in Kabankalan City, Sagay City, Victorias City, and another one seems to be under construction in Hinigaran. Gaisano has medium sized malls in Kabankalan City and San Carlos City. Dumaguete has several big malls going up for such a small city. And I don't even know what is going on in Cadiz City - the third biggest city in Negros Occidental. This is why Bacolod's malls are not as crowded as Iloilo's malls... but it doesn't mean that Bacoleno's don't have the money to spend, because if they don't, I am sure that Lopue's South Square would have closed a long time ago because the place is almost totally deserted but for a few customers. The few customers who go there are enough to support the entire complex because they spend more money than the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region.

Everything you said may be true. These may probably be the reasons why SM Bacolod cannot, in no way, affect the existing businesses in Bacolod. Bacolod would be the first area where SM cannot affect or influence, which is contrary to what is actually happening across the country: Cebu, Baguio, Davao, Lucena, San Fernando, Angeles, etc... That's a good point to ponder on.

"Lain gid ya sa iban ang Bacolod ya"....

[daks2003]

alter ego to the rescue!!! uso nga pala superheroes ngayon hehehe pero seriously......kaw man gihapon masabat sa pamangkot mo..so stop this crap...ok???


let history speak for itself. iloilo was once a superpower in the philippines, once called the queen city of the south. rivaling manila in many aspects. this is brought about by the higly profitable sugar industry, too much dependence in the sugar industry brought them the sweet blow that made them filthy rich. but ironically, this "sweet blow", the sugar industry, also brought their downfall.

at the time when iloilo is a bustling trade, commercial and educational center, cebu was just a small sleepy town. they cant grow any kind of crop because they are not blessed with the kind of soil that the ilonggos have back in iloilo. they only rely on trade with the visiting chinese merchants, barter trades, shellcrafts and a few corn plantation and some copra.

bacolod meanwhile is just an appendage of iloilo, though it gets a considerable amount of income from the sugar industry, this is nowhere near the amount of what its neighbor across the straight, iloilo, is enjoying, since iloilo has a major port, all goods are delivered to iloilo. bacolod was just a buffer, a vacation town, a "rest house" destination of the filthy millionaires from iloilo. literally, bacolod was overshadowed by the mighty iloilo.

this is where it gets interesting, at the turn of the century, the sugar industry collapsed. and who suffered the most? the highly sugar dependent iloilo, since the sugar industry is in the doldrums, activity in the port of iloilo almost came to a standstill, the few surviving "true" millionaires either went to manila, cebu or to other parts of the country to have a fresh start. put up business and forget about the bitter ending that they had in iloilo. at this time, since money is getting scarce in iloilo, politicians became suckers and acted like vultures to the dying economy of iloilo. graft and corruption became rampant and it sealed the coffin of the old glorious days of iloilo.

at this same time when iloilo was on a spiral downfall. merchants and traders looked for other means of economic survival. they started to notice the port of cebu. cebu became attractive since its people who are really not trained in crop, farming or any major agricultural product, are very much good and well trained in trading and retail. cebu started to gain solid footing in the philippine economic map. activity in the port of cebu became busier than the port of iloilo, the trade of copra spread to leyte and northern mindanao. the transport of people and goods became busier between cebu, eastern visayas and mndanao. businesses were put up since more and more people are beginning to set their base in cebu. chinese merchants who found cebu as an ideal trading place chose to stay and mingle with the locals. (as evidenced up to now, 1/4 to 1/3 of cebu city's population today are of chinese descent, the highest density in any philippine city outside manila). the spanish queen may have given the title the queen city of the south to iloilo, but since the people of the philippines doesnt find iloilo befitting to be called as such, with the presence of cebu, this title was give by the filipino people to cebu city, and this is in contrary to many who are giving reactions that cebu "grabbed" the title for herself.

the rest is what it is now...

but its not yet over for bacolod...

bacolod city, was just a small "town-city" and since iloilo's development almost came to a standstill for decades. bacolod learned from the mistake that its once mighty neighbor had. its people learned not to thread the same path that iloilo had. and it was just recently, 80's to 90's that bacolod started to do an upswing. (this is happening while its sleepy neighbor iloilo was.... well, sleeping) and bacolod is getting a bigger share of economic activity for western visayas. coming to a time that its almost at neck with iloilo, and rivaling iloilo in many ways (iloilo used to rival manila in many ways during her glorious days)

now back to where we are today....

analyze the history and see why iloilo is bitter with bacolod and cebu.

while bacolod and cebu may have been looking for ways and means to prosper even more and try to be more competitive, iloilo is looking at bacolod and cebu for a "take-me-back-to-where-i-belong" and the "i should be in your place" and the "yehey-i-got what-you-dont-have" attitude.

when we say iloilo'S approach to development is different from bacolod and cebu. i say.....

ITS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT!!!!!!

[daks2003]

Why dont you visit Iloilo and meet up with some of the Iloilo forumers...ano bi sa imo Din?

Like "Our SM City is double the size of your SM City" and "We have more SM stores than any other city outside Metro Manila"?

HMMM... Bacolod would rather have the distinction of having the smallest SM City and we prefer to have it that way. What we want is for Lopue's to do what Limketkai has done in CDO and Gaisano in Cebu & Davao. We want to see a big Lopue's mall being built and thrive despite the presence of Manila based chains. What is a big SM and Robinson's mall if it is just drawing away the city's finances?

Look at Calea at Robinson's, it is busier than Red Ribbon and my cousins across the Guimaras Strait used to brag about Their city having several Red Ribbon bakeshops. I think Red Ribbon shouldn't even have dared to set foot in Bacolod because Bacolod does have several cafe's and pastry shops that are far superior to it.

Even Jollibee is struggling to get a bigger market share in Metro Bacolod because Bacoleno's prefer the American flavor over the Pinoy one. Just look at MacDonald's at Lacson St. When I went there last week, I was very surprised of it's interiors. It is the best MacDonald's I've ever seen and I've been to quite a few countries. The interiors were at par with that of five star hotel restaurants. I hope that BluePrint would come out with a feature about it. They even have a MC Cafe next door and WIFI for its very busy customers.

My point is, Bacolod can support any Manila based stores and chains but these Manila based stores should be careful when they invest here lest they suffer the fate of getting embarrassed for not doing as well as in any other Philippine City.

Bacoleno's do have the money but they are always mindful of supporting the best and their own home based businesses. Heck, most of Metro Manila's upscale and exclusive Subdivisions and Condominiums have many Bacoleno residents. Almost all my friends here have at least one condominium in Manila.

Metro Bacolod is not just any like any other Filipino city. It is big enough to be on listed as one of the four major metropolitan areas together with Metro Cebu, Manila, and Davao and yet it exudes a pleasant laid back and small town atmosphere as Gravy Addict has pointed out to us. Bacolod is not a tourist destination just yet because it lacks the "exotic factor" and "Asian factor" so prevalent in all other Filipino cities. Metro Bacolod doesn't need to be a tourist destination because it can stand on its own and not rely upon OFW's remittances and Tourist's Dollars. I'd rather reside in a pleasant city than a city crowded with tourists or spoiled OFW's kids. Metro Bacolod is a metropolis that is built for the Negrense and any expatriate who chooses to live in the Philippines because of its relaxed and friendly environment and people.

[rooster2369]

[Qoute]This is why Bacolod's malls are not as crowded as Iloilo's malls... but it doesn't mean that Bacoleno's don't have the money to spend, because if they don't, I am sure that Lopue's South Square would have closed a long time ago because the place is almost totally deserted but for a few customers. The few customers who go there are enough to support the entire complex because they spend more money than the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region.[Qoute]

Maybe you don't know the fact that "..the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region." also includes a considerable number of your own. It's a known fact that a lot of Bacolenos go to Iloilo on the weekends just to shop in our malls and shopping centers. Mabal-an mo gid nga halin sila sa Bacolod kay daw manggaranon gid sila ya tulokon. Teh kabati kamo nga may taga-Iloilo nga nagapa-Bacolod para lang mag-shopping?

[valium]

alter ego to the rescue!!! uso nga pala superheroes ngayon hehehe pero seriously......kaw man gihapon masabat sa pamangkot mo..so stop this crap...ok???

how about doing an intelligent rebuttal?

[J_lim2k2]

I wonder why our cousins in cebu, davao and other places doesnt really care about Bacolod but our cousins across guimaras strait, whenver they hear the word BACOLOD they hear a tingling sounds?


Bacolod: we're putting up a SM mall
across guimaras strait: your SM is only half the sized of ours.

Bacolod: we're having a new Airport in Silay
across guimaras strait: we're also having a new Airport, in fact ours is bigger than yours.

Bacolod: we're the 4th metro in the Philippines recognized internationally.
across guimaras strait: No they're not! WE are the 4th. in fact we are already makin the plan of the development of W-City, X-town, Y-town and the Town of Z to become the Metro W.

Bacolod: we're developing.
across guimaras strait: we're developing faster!

Bacolod: our government center has now been approved.
across guimaras strait: our's is about to start! its a city hall and we're building it ahead of you!

bacolod: from a small settlement we're now a major city in the country.
across guimaras strait: when you we're a mere settlement, we are already in the same level competing with manila. We're even the Queen city of the south accourding to the King of Spain. so we're officially the Queen city of the south. cebu is a self-proclaimed!!!

any comment and critizism is welcome!

[WawaY[625]]

I wonder why our cousins in cebu, davao and other places doesnt really care about Bacolod but our cousins across guimaras strait, whenver they hear the word BACOLOD they hear a tingling sounds?


Bacolod: we're putting up a SM mall
across guimaras strait: your SM is only half the sized of ours.

Bacolod: we're having a new Airport in Silay
across guimaras strait: we're also having a new Airport, in fact ours is bigger than yours.

Bacolod: we're the 4th metro in the Philippines recognize internationally.
across guimaras strait: No they're not! WE are the 4th. in fact we are already makin the plan of the development of W-City, X-town, Y-town and the Town of Z to become the Metro W.

any comment is welcome!


this is the animosity i was talking about... i hope this kind of attitude is only prevalent here in SSC and with majority of bacolenos and ilonggos..

but yes i also encountered a similar (hopefully isolated) case when i was in bacolod, when our driver heard my plans to make a stopover to iloilo, instead of giving me good tips for my iloilo stay, he told me to avoid as its dirty and magulo..

and he even made a rather arrogant remark saying "kung mapapansin mo, dito sa bacolod konti lang taxi and jep, puro private cars, sa iloilo mas maraming jeep and taxi kaysa private cars" implying rich people live in bacolod while the case is opposite in iloilo..

[J_lim2k2]

Does this also happen in the other thread? like dgte talkin like this to cebu? CDO against Dgte and etc? or is this limitted on the bacolod thread lang?

Some even banned the city against city but still whos doin that?? right from thread 1 till now you can always read people across the guimaras strait clamouring but look at there threads! you cant find any Negrense clamouring. and if there is it, is an isolated incident.

Maybe its in there culture to be like that. no wonder they dont progress that much. it started lang when someone ask about SM bacolod then it went into a heated discussion. so whos fault is it??? cant they understand "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" why wont someone make Bacolod Vs. XXXX thread then post all you got!!!

SM lang gid lalisan ta pa!? hahaha what a joke! :)

[daks2003]

Why dont you try reading the much much earlier threads. Then you'll get an idea why it has come to this. If you have been here much earlier, na abtan mo tani nga ang duwa ka forumer diri may record na sa amo ni nga gimik. So di ka na magpadala sa propaganda nila kay may mga agenda na sila.



Does this also happen in the other thread? like dgte talkin like this to cebu? CDO against Dgte and etc? or is this limitted on the bacolod thread lang?

Some even banned the city against city but still whos doin that?? right from thread 1 till now you can always read people across the guimaras strait clamouring but look at there threads! you cant find any Negrense clamouring. and if there is it, is an isolated incident.

Maybe its in there culture to be like that. no wonder they dont progress that much. it started lang when someone ask about SM bacolod then it went into a heated discussion. so whos fault is it??? cant they understand "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" why wont someone make Bacolod Vs. XXXX thread then post all you got!!!

SM lang gid lalisan ta pa!? hahaha what a joke! :)

[WawaY[625]]

in short Negros is not limited to bacolod alone. unlike in iloilo that most of the development is in iloilo city alone. thats why even upto now bacolod is not as congested as like to other cities in the phils. though Negros has the most number of cities second to NCR. Iloilo city have will more larger buildings in the future due to the fact that it is already congested while in the case of bacolod, vast of land is still available for development thats why investors probably think is best to have several small-medium sized business establishment spread across bacolod and negros than making one large establishment in one area.

for those watchdogs here. Iloilo is indeed congested:

Metro Manila- 41,014 people/km². most populated city in the world.
Quezon city- 13,492/km²
Makati city- 16,260/km²
mandaluyong city- 13,098/km²

Iloilo City- 6533/km²
Bacolod City- 2,657.6/km²
Cebu City- 2565.4/km²
Cagayan de oro City- 785/km²
Davao City- 540/km²

source wikipedia.


sarap sana pakinggan na hindi congested ang davao city at 540/km2 pero ang habited area ng davao city is around 10% lang ng total area, yung 540 was total population over total area, so its highly inaccurate,most prolly DC's pop density is around 5400/km2 (or less, say 5000) since the area outside the 10% urban is barely populated..

[IMPRESARIO]

boy, things are heating up here! at tsaka medyo malakas ang hangin. ma sira ko anay ka mga bintana, ma air con na lang ako. :)

[Dinho]

[Qoute]This is why Bacolod's malls are not as crowded as Iloilo's malls... but it doesn't mean that Bacoleno's don't have the money to spend, because if they don't, I am sure that Lopue's South Square would have closed a long time ago because the place is almost totally deserted but for a few customers. The few customers who go there are enough to support the entire complex because they spend more money than the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region.[Qoute]

Maybe you don't know the fact that "..the average customer in other malls and shopping centers in the region." also includes a considerable number of your own. It's a known fact that a lot of Bacolenos go to Iloilo on the weekends just to shop in our malls and shopping centers. Mabal-an mo gid nga halin sila sa Bacolod kay daw manggaranon gid sila ya tulokon. Teh kabati kamo nga may taga-Iloilo nga nagapa-Bacolod para lang mag-shopping?

Thanks for pointing that out. If our people go to Iloilo to shop, you people should be thankful for that. If they could afford to go to Iloilo to shop, then they are not just "daw manggaranon gid sila ya tulokon"... They are indeed wealthy because they could afford to spend time and money to go to Iloilo... Bacoleno's are also known to go on shopping trips to other countries and not just Iloilo. I won't even say why most Ilonggo's could not go to Bacolod to dine and shop.

[Dinho]

Everything you said may be true. These may probably be the reasons why SM Bacolod cannot, in no way, affect the existing businesses in Bacolod. Bacolod would be the first area where SM cannot affect or influence, which is contrary to what is actually happening across the country: Cebu, Baguio, Davao, Lucena, San Fernando, Angeles, etc... That's a good point to ponder on.

"Lain gid ya sa iban ang Bacolod ya"....

You don't even need to ponder upon it because Bacolod has progressed quickly enough to catch up with Iloilo despite being a mere village when Iloilo was already the Queen City of the South. We do not need SM in Bacolod because is dynamic enough to progress on its own due to its abundant resources and not due to the much hyped presence of an SM Mall. In fact, a lot of Ilonggos were wondering why Bacolod had a construction boom in the 90's despite the absence of the said mall.

[WawaY[625]]

pssst ayaw sa mo away, post sa kamo sa top 3 favorite streets in your city thread. :D

[Dinho]

this is the animosity i was talking about... i hope this kind of attitude is only prevalent here in SSC and with majority of bacolenos and ilonggos..

but yes i also encountered a similar (hopefully isolated) case when i was in bacolod, when our driver heard my plans to make a stopover to iloilo, instead of giving me good tips for my iloilo stay, he told me to avoid as its dirty and magulo..

and he even made a rather arrogant remark saying "kung mapapansin mo, dito sa bacolod konti lang taxi and jep, puro private cars, sa iloilo mas maraming jeep and taxi kaysa private cars" implying rich people live in bacolod while the case is opposite in iloilo..

But what he said is true. Just try being late to any church here on a Sunday and you'll be sorry for yourself because you will need to park several blocks away. Robinson's Bacolod may not be as crowded as Robinson's Iloilo BUT it still needs more parking spaces despite having plenty of open parking lots at the front and back of the mall. Lopue's East purchased an adjacent lot at the back and had to build a rooftop parking facility just to cope with the parking needs of its customers - and it is quite a small mall by Iloilo's standards. Our neighbor had to purchase our house for a higher cost than its market value because he needed a bigger garage for his fleet of vehicles. Taxi drivers are indeed complaining here because they don't have enough business due to that fact that most Negrense families own a fleet of vehicles for different purposes and uses.

One would be for mom's use for her shopping and other everyday needs, another would be used to bring and fetch the kids from school, still another would be dad's work vehicle, another would just be used for special ocassions, and A pick up truck would also be essential for bringing heavier things from the gardens or farms. So in short, that would be a van for the kids, a car or AUV each for mom and dad, a Pick-up for utility use, and a fancy car or SUV for special ocassions... add to that a car for each kid when he/she reaches 18 Y.O.

The only problem with Bacolod is that it's Jeepney drivers are totally undisciplined and would sometimes wait for the ocassional passenger in the middle of an intersection... other than this problem, Bacolod is a great place to live in.

[Dinho]

Why dont you try reading the much much earlier threads. Then you'll get an idea why it has come to this. If you have been here much earlier, na abtan mo tani nga ang duwa ka forumer diri may record na sa amo ni nga gimik. So di ka na magpadala sa propaganda nila kay may mga agenda na sila.

Dak's, if they were to go over the previous threads, they would find your fellow Ilonggos too uncouth. They react badly when facing criticism and resort to making personal attacks. I do remember that when I mentioned about the congestion and pollutions problems besetting Iloilo. You must remember that even though you guys attacked me on a personal level, I never did the same thing to you guys. So please behave and we Bacoleno's always welcome criticism and suggestions so long as you listen to our explanation and answers.

[WawaY[625]]

haay instead na mag away kayo, post your three favorite street in your city na lang sa TOP 3 favorite city streets muna :D

[JudeD]

due to that fact that most Negrense families own a fleet of vehicles for different purposes and uses

Most? That I rather doubt. I don't think it's fair to label one's somewhat skewed perceptions as facts.

[IMPRESARIO]

....Maybe its in there culture to be like that. no wonder they dont progress that much.....

SM lang gid lalisan ta pa!? hahaha what a joke! :)


No wonder we dont progress that much??? , i highly doubt it sir, but of course thats your opinion and we are all entitled to our own opinion, views,analysis,etc etc., however surreal and incredulous it may be... :wink2:
so just post away. Mabuhay kita tanan! =)

[BYAHILO]

timeout ako anay... daw kabaskog gid sang bagyo..

mabalik lang ako kung tawhay na.. :)

peace all!

[death327]

I wonder why our cousins in cebu, davao and other places doesnt really care about Bacolod but our cousins across guimaras strait, whenver they hear the word BACOLOD they hear a tingling sounds?


Bacolod: we're putting up a SM mall
across guimaras strait: your SM is only half the sized of ours.

Bacolod: we're having a new Airport in Silay
across guimaras strait: we're also having a new Airport, in fact ours is bigger than yours.

Bacolod: we're the 4th metro in the Philippines recognized internationally.
across guimaras strait: No they're not! WE are the 4th. in fact we are already makin the plan of the development of W-City, X-town, Y-town and the Town of Z to become the Metro W.

Bacolod: we're developing.
across guimaras strait: we're developing faster!

Bacolod: our government center has now been approved.
across guimaras strait: our's is about to start! its a city hall and we're building it ahead of you!

bacolod: from a small settlement we're now a major city in the country.
across guimaras strait: when you we're a mere settlement, we are already in the same level competing with manila. We're even the Queen city of the south accourding to the King of Spain. so we're officially the Queen city of the south. cebu is a self-proclaimed!!!

any comment and critizism is welcome!

Excuse me... real Ilonggos who came from Iloilo are not doing this... in fact someone from the other island who started the "Comparison of Things".

People in Iloilo are so busy to deal with small things that don't matter at all... in fact people in Iloilo are busy in dealing with the issues of the region... take note... "Region" - as a whole... we are thinking of development not only of our own. We are thinking of the development of the whole Region....

I hope this is clear with you... but I cant believe that a true blood Ilonggo can do this "Comparison of Things"

Ay ambot na lang... as far as I know someone from the other Island started it all... I hope you will have tha last laugh... because I doubt if you can have it...

Also, another thing... we never ever did mention that Cebu took away the crown of being the Queen City of the South... it's natural and we accept that because after all life is a wheel... someone will rise... someone will fall... but someone will rise again. Cebu is Cebu and we know that... Iloilo is Iloilo and I think you also know that. If your city is having a great economic boom then let it be... but once you start to mention and to compare things between your city and Iloilo city... then I think we have a problem here....

We don't need to compare... and we don't need to mention the ugly sides of each city... because if we start doing this ... I don't know who will have the long list... :)

[IMPRESARIO]

timeout ako anay... daw kabaskog gid sang bagyo..

mabalik lang ako kung tawhay na.. :)

peace all!


gani man @eric, heheh, ano signal number? hehehe, btw, great pics of the independence day celeb last june 12!, kudos! :cheers2:

[death327]

You don't even need to ponder upon it because Bacolod has progressed quickly enough to catch up with Iloilo despite being a mere village when Iloilo was already the Queen City of the South. We do not need SM in Bacolod because is dynamic enough to progress on its own due to its abundant resources and not due to the much hyped presence of an SM Mall. In fact, a lot of Ilonggos were wondering why Bacolod had a construction boom in the 90's despite the absence of the said mall.

Let me quote this: "In fact, a lot of Ilonggos were wondering why Bacolod had a construction boom in the 90's despite the absence of the said mall"

How did you know that we, the Ilonggos were wondering those times?

As far as I know, we did not wonder... we did not even bother to ask because we knew and we were not new in encountering development. We knew why Iloilo was dormant since 1970's-1990's, and we basically understood the permise behind... it was the time of political monopoly of the city that eventually lead to economic monopoly.... investors were not allowed to invest in the city without giving a kickback to some politicians and this brought the economic dormancy of our city... with this we learned a lot...

But it is very unfair for you to claim that we were wondering. We are not that ignorant... of course we knew... and in all honesty we were never been awed by the development in your city... :)

[death327]

Dak's, if they were to go over the previous threads, they would find your fellow Ilonggos too uncouth. They react badly when facing criticism and resort to making personal attacks. I do remember that when I mentioned about the congestion and pollutions problems besetting Iloilo. You must remember that even though you guys attacked me on a personal level, I never did the same thing to you guys. So please behave and we Bacoleno's always welcome criticism and suggestions so long as you listen to our explanation and answers.

Because you are not giving constructive criticisms... you are posting it with arrogance and pride... if you were to check your postings you will realize that you were demeaning and making other cities small....

When do you criticism... make it very constructive... post the problem and offer a solution... take note.. post the problem... analyze and offer solution... that's the criticism we need.

Anyway... there is a good part in your criticism... we learned that not all of the outsiders will like Iloilo... and we get to learn the ways to improve our city.

[J_lim2k2]

No wonder we dont progress that much??? , i highly doubt it sir, but of course thats your opinion and we are all entitled to our own opinion, views,analysis,etc etc., however surreal and incredulous it may be... :wink2:
so just post away. Mabuhay kita tanan! =)

What i meant was Iloilo could've progressed much more faster than the current one. maybe you could've been 2nd to manila in terms of development instead of the current one which your just competing with Bacolod.

[daks2003]

Is there a reason why we should go to bacolod just to dine and shop??? :)

Simple man lang na ang sabat why some bacolodnons go to Iloilo and shop..coz you dont have an SM yet. Same thing when Iloilo didnt have a robinsons mall yet...I got a lot of friends who go on trips to rob-bacolod to shop on some specific stores. So basically, people go to other places to shop in stores that they dont have in their place.

Now that bacolod has an SM, you think bacolodnons would go across the guimaras straight just to visit and shop @ sm iloilo???

Thanks for pointing that out. If our people go to Iloilo to shop, you people should be thankful for that. If they could afford to go to Iloilo to shop, then they are not just "daw manggaranon gid sila ya tulokon"... They are indeed wealthy because they could afford to spend time and money to go to Iloilo... Bacoleno's are also known to go on shopping trips to other countries and not just Iloilo. I won't even say why most Ilonggo's could not go to Bacolod to dine and shop.

[BYAHILO]

gani man @eric, heheh, ano signal number? hehehe, btw, great pics of the independence day celeb last june 12!, kudos! :cheers2:


Thanks gid.. i might be back in Pampanga again on july7-8-9 tapos mapa baguio ako july 18-23 or basi until 23.. mahapit ako banaue.. and if time permits ma drop by ako dagupan pangasinan.

ehehe kung si Chymera kag pacific leopard invades the panay island, diri lang ko ya anay sa luzon. eheheh

[BYAHILO]

gani man @eric, heheh, ano signal number? hehehe, btw, great pics of the independence day celeb last june 12!, kudos! :cheers2:

samtang makusog pa ang bagyo.. ehhee wala lang.. post ko lang ang interview sang manila bulleting sa akon last october. eheheheh

http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2005/10/11/TECH2005101146378.html

[J_lim2k2]

Excuse me... real Ilonggos who came from Iloilo are not doing this... in fact someone from the other island who started the "Comparison of Things".

People in Iloilo are so busy to deal with small things that don't matter at all... in fact people in Iloilo are busy in dealing with the issues of the region... take note... "Region" - as a whole... we are thinking of development not only of our own. We are thinking of the development of the whole Region....

I hope this is clear with you... but I cant believe that a true blood Ilonggo can do this "Comparison of Things"

Ay ambot na lang... as far as I know someone from the other Island started it all... I hope you will have tha last laugh... because I doubt if you can have it...

Also, another thing... we never ever did mention that Cebu took away the crown of being the Queen City of the South... it's natural and we accept that because after all life is a wheel... someone will rise... someone will fall... but someone will rise again. Cebu is Cebu and we know that... Iloilo is Iloilo and I think you also know that. If your city is having a great economic boom then let it be... but once you start to mention and to compare things between your city and Iloilo city... then I think we have a problem here....

We don't need to compare... and we don't need to mention the ugly sides of each city... because if we start doing this ... I don't know who will have the long list... :)

busy in regional issues? like what for example? and how'd you knew that? are you workin in the regional offices? or are you just tellin us that you are the "regional center"?

how many queen city of the south do we have? and supposed to have?

Dont take this as a personal attack. I dont intent do personal attacks to anyone. If I did, it was not what I was tryin to do. so I apologize if I did.

I fully agree with you to stop comparing. it has started lots of heated discussion and the end result is always "we agree to disagree"

[death327]

busy in regional issues? like what for example? and how'd you knew that? are you workin in the regional offices? or are you just tellin us that you are the "regional center"?

how many queen city of the south do we have? and supposed to have?

Dont take this as a personal attack. I dont intent do personal attacks to anyone. If I did, it was not what I was tryin to do. so I apologize if I did.

I fully agree with you to stop comparing. it has started lots of heated discussion and the end result is always "we agree to disagree"

Ei, I also apologize for being quite rude in some of my statements.

Basically, region six right now is facing several issues... most important of all is competitiveness in terms of sustainable economic set-up... in short we basically don't have a core economic niche which could kick a quantum leap in our economic status. Imagine this... people of the world know Boracay but they dont know much about Iloilo, Negros or even Aklan. We are known for oursugar... but this is not a good economic thrust. So basically, what is our main economic agenda that will bring us all once again in the map of the world? For now... nada

Another issue is Child labor... both Iloilo province and Negros Occidental is having severe cases of child labor.

Another one Ecological preservation and forest degradation... the islands of negros and panay were once mostly covered by virginial forest, but now only 10% remained as virgin forest... and it is constantly threatened by unchecked development and urbanization.

Poverty... how many provinces of our region are still under lower income bracket? How many children are malnourished... etc...

So many issues to mention....

We always think of development and we always try to compare things that we have here in Iloilo and that you have there in Bacolod... but we are not checking our common grounds... we just all came from one lineage... your forefathers are relatives of our forefathers here...

As far as I can see... if we continue this... nothing will happen to Region VI.
Being Queen City or not it doesn't matter... what matters most is the welfare of the people living in that city... each should have a fair share of knowledge, of wealth, of life, and of comfort.... we, the Ilonggos, "is" the most important economic ingredient of our Region...

[BYAHILO]

Ei, I also apologize for being quite rude in some of my statements.

Basically, region six right now is facing several issues... most important of all is competitiveness in terms of sustainable economic set-up... in short we basically don't have a core economic niche which could kick a quantum leap in our economic status. Imagine this... people of the world know Boracay but they dont know much about Iloilo, Negros or even Aklan. We are known for oursugar... but this is not a good economic thrust. So basically, what is our main economic agenda that will bring us all once again in the map of the world? For now... nada

Another issue is Child labor... both Iloilo province and Negros Occidental is having severe cases of child labor.

Another one Ecological preservation and forest degradation... the islands of negros and panay were once mostly covered by virginial forest, but now only 10% remained as virgin forest... and it is constantly threatened by unchecked development and urbanization.

Poverty... how many provinces of our region are still under lower income bracket? How many children are malnourished... etc...

So many issues to mention....

We always think of development and we always try to compare things that we have here in Iloilo and that you have there in Bacolod... but we are not checking our common grounds... we just all came from one lineage... your forefathers are relatives of our forefathers here...

As far as I can see... if we continue this... nothing will happen to Region VI.
Being Queen City or not it doesn't matter... what matters most is the welfare of the people living in that city... each should have a fair share of knowledge, of wealth, of life, and of comfort.... we, the Ilonggos, "is" the most important economic ingredient of our Region...

i certainly agree with you..

frget those titles, those monickers attached to our city. whether u are the quuen city, or the city of love, or the city of smiles or kung ano pa man... it doesnt matter...

what is important is... as citizens of this city should unite and work hand in hand for the progress and development of our city.

bisan gamay-gamay lang nga development, later on makibot ka na lang kung ano na kadako ang imo na buhat for the city.

so please.... lets stop comparing one city from another.

personally i get hurt makita ko ni... i was born and raised in bacolod.. pero i have also stayed for quite a while in iloilo...

ti mag binaisay diri.. mahipos na lang ako... wala ko apinan..

hopefully this will be the last city-bashing...

peace! \m/

[TJ]

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Bacolod hehe :)

[TJ]

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me haus hehe :)

[TJ]

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Golden fields :) hehe

[TJ]

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Panaad istidyeum hehe :)

[J_lim2k2]

Ei, I also apologize for being quite rude in some of my statements.

Basically, region six right now is facing several issues... most important of all is competitiveness in terms of sustainable economic set-up... in short we basically don't have a core economic niche which could kick a quantum leap in our economic status. Imagine this... people of the world know Boracay but they dont know much about Iloilo, Negros or even Aklan. We are known for oursugar... but this is not a good economic thrust. So basically, what is our main economic agenda that will bring us all once again in the map of the world? For now... nada

Another issue is Child labor... both Iloilo province and Negros Occidental is having severe cases of child labor.

Another one Ecological preservation and forest degradation... the islands of negros and panay were once mostly covered by virginial forest, but now only 10% remained as virgin forest... and it is constantly threatened by unchecked development and urbanization.

Poverty... how many provinces of our region are still under lower income bracket? How many children are malnourished... etc...

So many issues to mention....

We always think of development and we always try to compare things that we have here in Iloilo and that you have there in Bacolod... but we are not checking our common grounds... we just all came from one lineage... your forefathers are relatives of our forefathers here...

As far as I can see... if we continue this... nothing will happen to Region VI.
Being Queen City or not it doesn't matter... what matters most is the welfare of the people living in that city... each should have a fair share of knowledge, of wealth, of life, and of comfort.... we, the Ilonggos, "is" the most important economic ingredient of our Region...

I agree. with the intense competion in locally and between across the strait we have forgotten our common problems. like what you have mention above. let this be a lesson to all of us and avoid bashings. anyway, region 6 has a very large contribution to the countries economy.

we, the Ilonggos, and the Negrenses "are" the most important economic ingredient of our Region...

[rooster2369]

But what he said is true. Just try being late to any church here on a Sunday and you'll be sorry for yourself because you will need to park several blocks away. Robinson's Bacolod may not be as crowded as Robinson's Iloilo BUT it still needs more parking spaces despite having plenty of open parking lots at the front and back of the mall. Lopue's East purchased an adjacent lot at the back and had to build a rooftop parking facility just to cope with the parking needs of its customers - and it is quite a small mall by Iloilo's standards. Our neighbor had to purchase our house for a higher cost than its market value because he needed a bigger garage for his fleet of vehicles. Taxi drivers are indeed complaining here because they don't have enough business due to that fact that most Negrense families own a fleet of vehicles for different purposes and uses.

One would be for mom's use for her shopping and other everyday needs, another would be used to bring and fetch the kids from school, still another would be dad's work vehicle, another would just be used for special ocassions, and A pick up truck would also be essential for bringing heavier things from the gardens or farms. So in short, that would be a van for the kids, a car or AUV each for mom and dad, a Pick-up for utility use, and a fancy car or SUV for special ocassions... add to that a car for each kid when he/she reaches 18 Y.O.

The only problem with Bacolod is that it's Jeepney drivers are totally undisciplined and would sometimes wait for the ocassional passenger in the middle of an intersection... other than this problem, Bacolod is a great place to live in.

One of the most abundant but untapped resources of Bacolod is Wind Power. Imagine if we can develop this resource, just like what they did in Ilocos Norte? The energy generated supplies 60% of Ilocos Norte's requirements. I'm sure, with the kind of wind we have in Bacolod, we can generate electricity enough to power the whole Visayas grid.

[J_lim2k2]

One of the most abundant but untapped resources of Bacolod is Wind Power. Imagine if we can develop this resource, just like what they did in Ilocos Norte? The energy generated supplies 60% of Ilocos Norte's requirements. I'm sure, with the kind of wind we have in Bacolod, we can generate electricity enough to power the whole Visayas grid.


I think we have already a pilot project in Pulupandan. I saw it last time on tv a group of NGO studying and expermenting the wind on Pulupandan town. I saw they have prototypes of windmill that is designed for local use. but that was about 5 yrs ago. I dunno the updates.

[J_lim2k2]

News


Guv hopes mega regions
will spur bridges
INTERCONNECTING PANAY, NEGROS, CEBU
BY CARLA GOMEZ

Gov. Joseph Marañon yesterday said he hopes the President's plan to create mega regions will spur the proposal to interconnect Panay, Negros and Cebu with bridges.

The governor had earlier proposed the interconnection of the three island to boost tourism and the economy through easier access. However, Marañon said no one from the national government has discussed with the provincial government officials the plan for the mega regions yet.

We do not know yet what their structure will be like and the mechanics of their creation, he said.

Malacañang had earlier announced that mega regions would be created as part of efforts to spur growth in the country's regions and boost their economic potential.

The "mega-region" concept divides the country into four multi-regional "investment and development areas": North Luzon (Regions 1, 2 and Cordillera Autonomous Region, plus Aurora and Nueva Ecija); Metro Luzon (Regions 3, 4A, and the National Capital Region); Central Philippines (Regions 4-B, 5 to 8); and Mindanao (Regions 9 to 13 and the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao).

Arroyo will soon draft an executive order outlining the boundaries of the development areas and the mechanisms by which local government units will participate in implementing the concept, a Malacañang press statement said. The new groupings will allow regional leaders and sectors to participate more intensively in planning, monitoring, and fine-tuning development programs and projects in their regions, the palace announced.

"The President's idea is to move toward larger groupings that will boost economic and market potentials beyond what each region can generate, with economies of scale, synergies, and complementation that will be more attractive to investors," Secretary to the Cabinet Ricardo Saludo said.

"In addition, a larger resource base of each mega-region will be available for the provision of social services and pump-priming infrastructure, particularly the poorer provinces," he added.

Saludo said planning discussions will be held among the regional development councils executive committees, governors, and mayors of regional capital cities.*CPG

[kyle@1008]

.....my oh my... bickering has not ended yet...

Oh well.... oh Btw Robinsons Metro is now hosting an operating call center,... Teletech is now recieving calls from the states and so far has hired three batches of employees...their offices have occupied half the first floor,.. and according to management since the call center has more than 500 employees,.. it is feasible for other businesses to start operating there... to cater to the new batch of yuppies with money to spend...

:colgate:

[valium]

yup! the bickering and bashing has not yet ended. too bad they dwell too much on what has been said here. instead of bickering with bacolod, why dont they translate their frustrations into positive attitude, focus and plan for their city across the strait, its their city anyway, isnt it sad the the once premiere city outside manila is fuming and mudslinging at bacolod, which was once a just mole in the giant and mighty iloilo of yesteryears? why do they always freeze and shoot everytime developments about bacolod are posted here, HERE in the bacolod thread, i dont think the people of bacolod are trying to compete with them, or with any other city for that matter, the problem here is whenever developments in and around bacolod are published here, they see it as a form of intimidation. insecurity take you nowhere. its an open game, i dont think bacolod is trying to compete with them, but if they feel it that way, let them compete with bacolod. they choose to compete then let them play bacolods game!

[WawaY[625]]

hala kayo, you better stop the bickering na, naasar na si valium sa inyo.hehe
when valium speaks, everbody takes notice pa naman

[J_lim2k2]

anyway, enough with bashings. to start a new. what do you think the impact if the Cebu-Negros-Panay bridges are build? what economic impact do you think it can do to Negros island? and if it is build where would the 2 bridges be built?

[Ady001]

lets not fight.... our cities are unique.. like what i said in the CDO thread

[daks2003]

YUP! We will play bacolod's game but we dont wanna play your game.


yup! the bickering and bashing has not yet ended. too bad they dwell too much on what has been said here. instead of bickering with bacolod, why dont they translate their frustrations into positive attitude, focus and plan for their city across the strait, its their city anyway, isnt it sad the the once premiere city outside manila is fuming and mudslinging at bacolod, which was once a just mole in the giant and mighty iloilo of yesteryears? why do they always freeze and shoot everytime developments about bacolod are posted here, HERE in the bacolod thread, i dont think the people of bacolod are trying to compete with them, or with any other city for that matter, the problem here is whenever developments in and around bacolod are published here, they see it as a form of intimidation. insecurity take you nowhere. its an open game, i dont think bacolod is trying to compete with them, but if they feel it that way, let them compete with bacolod. they choose to compete then let them play bacolods game!

[daks2003]

Dont worry gravy...majority of the forumers are ignoring him...he thrives on that crap.

Sa mga bago rito...dont be falling on his(and *****) trap...he(and *****) has done nothing but promote animosity between cities.

hala kayo, you better stop the bickering na, naasar na si valium sa inyo.hehe
when valium speaks, everbody takes notice pa naman

[chymera00]

Dont worry gravy...majority of the forumers are ignoring him...he thrives on that crap.

Sa mga bago rito...dont be falling on his(and *****) trap...he(and *****) has done nothing but promote animosity between cities.
So true,

While the forumers have already moved on with this issue, he's still stuck behind his own little shell, still stuck behind issues that have really no relevance to people from those cities anymore. It's only him who starts and sensationalizes the "bickering" that supposedly goes on.

And the nerve of this guy, to take the moral ascendance to tell people to channel focus into positive attitude .... he should really talk to a mirror one of these days.

[WawaY[625]]

yeah he knows how to get into our nerves , pero minsan may point cya,minsan nga lang masakit pakinggan yung point nya :)

i dont mind having him around though, he adds spice to the SSC forums

[daks2003]

yups...boring naman kung walang clown eh hehehe

yeah he knows how to get into our nerves , pero minsan may point cya,minsan nga lang masakit pakinggan yung point nya :)

i dont mind having him around though, he adds spice to the SSC forums

[BYAHILO]

Hello all!

can somebody please post a hi-res photo ph bacolod GSIS area, its in tangub, south portion sang bacolod lapit sa airport. i jaz want to see kung ano itsura sa balay namon sa likod GSIS. hehehe

i cant DL the google earth diri sa office eh.

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CHYMERA> musta na da? sako ka pa? eheheh mapa baguio ko next week. pero im still thinking kung after baguio mapa banaue ako or vigan/laoag.

jul18 akon departure.

basi next week may food tour ako with some peeps from manila bulletin. ehehe wish ko lang indi na nila pag i post ang nawong ko sa newspaper. jaz like what they did last year. kahuluya ahahahahha

[TJ]

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/1773/gs9ed.jpg (http://imageshack.us) GSIS :)

[TJ]

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A divided city between Super rich and the super poor... where the harsh utter reality of poverty, drugs and crime and the extravagant luxury lifestlyes of rich socialeros and socaileras mix everyday.. :)

[WawaY[625]]

nice catch TJ!

how sad naman....

[Jimbu]

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A divided city between Super rich and the super poor... where the harsh utter reality of poverty, drugs and crime and the extravagant luxury lifestlyes of rich socialeros and socaileras mix everyday.. :)

i've stayed in Bacolod and have been in major cities in our country. to tell you there's not much difference and it's even worst in some places.

[sugarboy]

Wow, it's been a long time since I've posted on this thread. Good to know that there's a fair amount of activity happening on the Bacolod thread. Keep it up guys :okay:

A divided city between Super rich and the super poor... where the harsh utter reality of poverty, drugs and crime and the extravagant luxury lifestlyes of rich socialeros and socaileras mix everyday.. :)

On TJ's note, I respect TJ's observation but this statement and those sounding like it is so passé. We've heard that before and yes, I do not refute that. There is truth in that statement. But that is not gospel truth. The said division only exists in the minds of those who want to see a dividing wall between rich and poor. What we haven't heard too often are bold statements like this:

A fair portion of the poor deserve to be poor because of their laziness, indolence and refusal to break free from their situation arising from a mindset that says, this is how we were born...and this is how we will carry on with our meager existence on this earth.


I know my statement will draw a lot of reaction and so, I wouldn't be surprised if a heated discussion ensues. But that's just how it is folks. If people were more industrious, there would be no reason why a large majority would have to be poor. ;)

[WawaY[625]]

A fair portion of the poor deserve to be poor because of their laziness, indolence and refusal to break free from their situation arising from a mindset that says, this is how we were born...and this is how we will carry on with our meager existence on this earth.




harsh..but true

[BYAHILO]

THANKS SA HI-RES PHOTO SANG gsis.

ahaha nakita ko na balay namon. its nice to see that familiar building, i used to see everyday when i was still in bacolod.

[sugarboy]

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[Dinho]

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A divided city between Super rich and the super poor... where the harsh utter reality of poverty, drugs and crime and the extravagant luxury lifestlyes of rich socialeros and socaileras mix everyday.. :)

Is that Mountainview Subdivision TJ? That's not as bad as Sta. Clara which is right next door to Banago. But TJ, this condition is common everywhere in the world. There will always be poor people and there will always be rich and filthy rich people.

To really think TJ, would you rather have the rich spending and giving all their money thru dole-outs or even through some irresponsible NGO's who do nothing but give the money and resources to the poor but have never thought of empowering them?

If the rich were to stop spending their money, how would our economy survive? Even the poor who are hardworking would lose their jobs if that should happen.

Take Bob's for example, you may hate the people who go there. You may think they are just showing off or being extravagant when they go there. But the reality is that whole enterprise called Bob's is providing good jobs for over a hundred people in Metro Bacolod and when I say good jobs, I mean that their employees are paid well I think and treated well too because they stay. Some of their waiters and crew have been there since my younger brother was born in 1980. I've been away for two years and I was surprised to find all but one of the crew present and working happily there.

You should take notice when visiting other places in the P.I. Try to see whether your local host is recognized by the waiters in that establishment, chances are that he wouldn't be because of the high turnover of employees in other parts of the country. Most people in other areas tend to just get employed and leave as soon as they gain experience and get a job opportunity to work abroad. It doesn't mean that they are content to be where they are now because it usually doesn't mean you'll have much money when you work abroad with all the expenses involved and the high cost of living there.

Most of the working people who stay in the Philippines are blessed to be able to have a stable job and help support their family so that their children and siblings could go to school. It may take a while before their situation improves, but it will gradually happen.

I know of a family whom I've helped by helping their eldest son who was a classmate of mine, get a well paying job elsewhere and they are now looking for a decent home... a big imrpovement from their lean-to behind one of the bigger malls in Bacolod. The mother runs a carinderia where the staff of that mall eats to save some money. They lived this way for many years and it's such a good thing to see them moving up.

People may be criticizing Bacolenos for being an uppity crowd, but without this culture, our people would just be a sorry bunch. It's better to see people strive to be better than they currently are and see them actually reach their goal of providing a decent home and a better living and lifestyle for their families.

[FrancisXavier]

is that a slum area? side by side with (high end) community?