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Obelixx
October 28th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Where exist subways and tramways which crosses borders of countries?

lightrail
October 29th, 2008, 04:59 AM
Where exist subways and tramways which crosses borders of countries?

Until the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Berlin U-bahn operated in two different countries - but trains only operated through East Germany to another western station - the East German stations were closed and patrolled by armed guards.

I don't know of any today.

flierfy
October 29th, 2008, 12:58 PM
There used to be a tram line between Basel(CH) and Lörrach(D) which might be re-established again.

Augusto
October 29th, 2008, 03:06 PM
There is already a thread about this somewhere.
Basel (CH) tram has a short section in France.
Bratislava and Wien will soon have a subway or a tram link between them.
There is a project to extend the Lille (F) métro to Mouscron (B).
Singapore and Johore Bharu (Malaysia) will be connected by MRT one day but due to their bad relations it may take some time.

zaphod
October 29th, 2008, 03:55 PM
if I am not mistaken, there was once a streetcar between El Paso, Texas and Juarez, Mexico.

It closed a long time ago I am sure though.

RzgR Spijkenisse
October 30th, 2008, 12:40 PM
There is this Tram/Train system bertween the Geman city of Saarbruecken en the French city of Sarreguemines. It is called Saarbahn. It uses its own infrastucture in the city like all other trams. Once it crosses the border it will use the train infrastructure of the German DB and the French SNCF. It is an interesting piece of public transport.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saarbahn

There is this other plan of extending the Belgian CoastTram toward the Dutch village Breskens and the French village of Dunkirk. Once completed they will have a tramline that will cross two borders from the Netherlands to France. :cheers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Coast_Tram

city_thing
October 30th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Until the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Berlin U-bahn operated in two different countries - but trains only operated through East Germany to another western station - the East German stations were closed and patrolled by armed guards.

I don't know of any today.

Really? I ignorantly assumed that East Germany probably would have blocked the U-bahn and S-bahn tunnels - they would have been a good way for people to smuggle stuff and themselves between the two halves of Berlin. Plus it would have been a way for East Berlin to try and cripple West Berlin by cutting public transport links....

You learn something new everyday!

Petr
October 30th, 2008, 12:52 PM
They're planing a new tram line which will connect German Görlitz and Polish Zgorzelec.

Slartibartfas
October 30th, 2008, 09:32 PM
There are plans to reconstruct the light rail from Bratislava to Vienna. This would especially serve those small villages which are right next to Bratislava but already in Austria. The rail connection had been cut off in the last century. (Its just a matter of a few km). One would have to add two gauge rails on Bratislava territory as well, to lead a possible new connection right into the city center of Bratislava.

While it is rather certain that the gap will be closed its not sure that the light rail scenario will be chosen however, maybe its just going to be an S-Bahn. We will see.

http://www.kurier.at/mmedia/2007.12.27/1198766503_5.jpg
This map shows the current S-Bahn going to Wolfsthal, where the gap in the network is located. The ligh rail scenario would see this S-Bahn turned into a lightrail and the gap being closed.

If this light rail should get built, it might be actually the sole one operating between two different national capitals.

urbanfan89
October 31st, 2008, 01:10 AM
The Hong Kong MTR East Rail has two stations in the north which connect directly to the border with the mainland and the Shenzhen metro system. You can consider them countries due to the strict immigration checks involved.

Aydin1
October 31st, 2008, 02:38 PM
Yes, very efficient connection from Shenzhen Metro, walk through customs, and board HK MTR. I believe it's the busiest border crossing in the world.

snupix
October 31st, 2008, 02:44 PM
A bit OT, but since I'm planing to visit China next year and fly out from HK - is there really a border crossing and is another visa needed for entering Hong Kong?

city_thing
October 31st, 2008, 02:48 PM
I don't think you need a visa to get into HK, but I entered on a British passport so it could be different for you.

If you enter from HK, you can get a special visa that only allows you entry into Shenzhen. Or, you can apply for a visa to get past Shenzhen and into Guangdong. It takes a few days to get the visa from memory; but it's worth it. Bypass Shenzhen, I hated it there. Every second person was trying to sell me something, usually sex. Guangzhou was much, much more pleasant.

snupix
October 31st, 2008, 04:02 PM
Thank you! :)

Filip
October 31st, 2008, 05:39 PM
Geneva: The loop for one of the lines in halfway into France, in Annemasse.

starsailor82
October 31st, 2008, 05:50 PM
there's a plan for a light rail connection between hasselt (be) and maastricht (nl)

Dothog
October 31st, 2008, 08:03 PM
There’s a local light railway from San Sebastian in Spain to Hendaye in France.

Gil
October 31st, 2008, 08:38 PM
How long before Tijuana gets developed enough that the San Diego system will continue across the border?

Gag Halfrunt
October 31st, 2008, 10:39 PM
How long before Tijuana gets developed enough that the San Diego system will continue across the border?
The San Diego Trolley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_Trolley) runs right up to the border at San Ysidro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro,_San_Diego,_California), which is the busiest land border in the world (50 million people crossed it in 2005). Economic development and traffic levels, therefore, are not an obstacle to extending the line across the border. The border itself is the obstacle - everyone is subject to strict immigration and customs checks, so extending the Trolley into Mexico would probably not be practical. If border controls were relaxed in future, it might become possible.

EricIsHim
October 31st, 2008, 10:52 PM
The Hong Kong MTR East Rail has two stations in the north which connect directly to the border with the mainland and the Shenzhen metro system. You can consider them countries due to the strict immigration checks involved.

But they are different totally systems operated by different operators.
Yes, you can take the train to end of the line; then walk through the boarder control through immigration and customs; and then walk to the station for the other system. The stations and the tracks aren't physically connected; and the trains don't cross the boarder either.

inthejungle
November 2nd, 2008, 11:35 PM
There is a plan to build a BRT on Cúcuta (Colombia) the plan included lines to San Antonio and Ureńa (Venezuela), but i don't know when it is going to be built.

IIRC it is the busiest border cross on South America