Okay, I'll try. :)

What's this hi-rise that's fast rising along Shaw Blvd., at foot of the flyover off-ramp I believe.

Hey thomasian! please update this list
SO WHRE IS IT @

^^ I think he is still working on it. Patience, its not an easy task.

@ Rmn, you must be referring to Lancaster Suites...

Ayala Land is planning of building a residential condo (might be a complex) near SM San Lazaro. This is confidential but i heard it from someone. The features are not yet final. They are targetting the Chinese market around the area. Are there lots of them there?

I don't think this is a big secret. They announced discussions with Ayala a while ago. SM gets the mall, Ayala gets the residential.

With all this condo construction boom , I wonder if they're sourcing all their materials and supplies fr. the PHilippines.I hope they're getting local architects too as this can have a good multiplier effect on the economy.

@ Rmn, you must be referring to Lancaster Suites...

Ayala Land is planning of building a residential condo (might be a complex) near SM San Lazaro. This is confidential but i heard it from someone. The features are not yet final. They are targetting the Chinese market around the area. Are there lots of them there?

Plenty of Chinese in that area. Yung simpleng rich tsinoys.

@ Rmn, you must be referring to Lancaster Suites...

Ayala Land is planning of building a residential condo (might be a complex) near SM San Lazaro. This is confidential but i heard it from someone. The features are not yet final. They are targetting the Chinese market around the area. Are there lots of them there?


I already mentioned that project early this year including the details.
Now I can't remember all of the details, and I can't find that post containing the info about it.
All I can remember is that this will be developed under Ayala Land subsidiaries CII (Community Innovations Inc.) and LPHI (Laguna Properties Holdings Incorporated).
There will be two components, the condominium buildings (which I believe will be handled by CII) and the townhouses (which I believe will be handled by LPHI).

I See. so this is no more a secret. hehe...:D
anyway...@ marites, someone from a research company said one of the plus factors for buyers in choosing a residential unit is...believe it or not...whether the architect is a well-known international archi firm...maybe the likes of SOM or KPF? or perhaps the famous local ones like Philip Recto, Recio + Casas, etc.
Another colleague said we used to import steel from other countries...few years back. this one i will confirm with him next time. he's just 2 aisle away from me tho.

we still import most of our steel. our steel industry is emaciated with the only billet plant (national steel) producing only part of our requirement (if it's producing at all - it's gone bankrupt several times with our government , hence us paying for it). And this is for long (rebars) not flats (plates), we don't have a flat plant.

Some interesting news.

Spoke with an out of town architect and someone is planning to build the Philippines tallest building in the empty lot on Ayala Ave. besides the unfinished Jaka Tower. It's still in the planning stages but the requirement is for 56 stories with minimum 4.2 meters, floor to floor. This is supposed to be Manila's first triple grade A building better than anything built so far. Conceptual design is almost finished and will move on to detailed design soon. Definitely they know how high PBCOM is and have plans to exceed this. So we may have a new tallest building in the works soon, cross your fingers. Unless of course SM continues with it's 70 floor SMKS finally or someone finishes Jaka which is a 70 stories (but not really nice).

^^ :eek2: Hope what you heard is true! This is exciting!

If things remain positive, we should be able to get more details by next year, eh? Its about time a new office building gets built...and a triple grade A, wow! This should fill some of the demand that is tightening up.

Isnt Standard & Chartered Bank building right next to Jaka? or is there an empty lot between them, suitable for this new project?
EDIT: Nevermind, in my picture of the skyline it shows and empty lot between them

Here is roughly how the skyline would look like once its built...no more dome like appearance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/GreyX/P1010274new.jpg

I See. so this is no more a secret. hehe...:D
anyway...@ marites, someone from a research company said one of the plus factors for buyers in choosing a residential unit is...believe it or not...whether the architect is a well-known international archi firm...maybe the likes of SOM or KPF? or perhaps the famous local ones like Philip Recto, Recio + Casas, etc.
Another colleague said we used to import steel from other countries...few years back. this one i will confirm with him next time. he's just 2 aisle away from me tho.
Damn, too bad. With all these condos going up if we were sourcing our own steel then that would surely help the economy. I guess Korea is getting the benefit.

Okay, I found out the article about this ALI project in San Lazaro that I posted earlier this year.

ALI to Build Condominium, Townhouses in Manila
Business World - 02/11/05

Two subsidiaries of Ayala Land, Inc. plan
to build residential condominiums and
townhouses on the 6.47-ha. property of
Manila Jockey Club, Inc. in Sta. Cruz, Manila.
Ayala Land’s Community Innovations,
Inc. and Laguna Properties Holdings, Inc
proposed the development that will be a
combination of residential condominium
buildings and townhouses. However, the
groups are still in the discussion and finalization
stage. The proposal remains
subject to the fulfillment of certain conditions
precedent including the execution
by the parties of the relevant agreements.
It was referred to lawyers after it was
approved by the jockey’s club board. The
club also wants to put up an intermodal
bus terminal in line with the mixed-use
real estate development plan for its proposed
San Lazaro Town Center. Last
year, the club had said the 3.3-ha. bus terminal
would have bus and jeepney loading
slots, booking and ticketing offices,
food and gift outlets, as well as a cargo
center. The jockey club would provide the
land while Ayala Land units would provide
financial and technical resources for
the project. If approved, the proposed
joint development will be the two Ayala
Land subsidiaries’ first project in Manila.

Some interesting news.

Spoke with an out of town architect and someone is planning to build the Philippines tallest building in the empty lot on Ayala Ave. besides the unfinished Jaka Tower. It's still in the planning stages but the requirement is for 56 stories with minimum 4.2 meters, floor to floor. This is supposed to be Manila's first triple grade A building better than anything built so far. Conceptual design is almost finished and will move on to detailed design soon. Definitely they know how high PBCOM is and have plans to exceed this. So we may have a new tallest building in the works soon, cross your fingers. Unless of course SM continues with it's 70 floor SMKS finally or someone finishes Jaka which is a 70 stories (but not really nice).

wow, all i can say is let them fight for it. well never heard of smks where will it be built. maybe mr yap will surpass him by building another airport

^^ :eek2: Hope what you heard is true! This is exciting!

If things remain positive, we should be able to get more details by next year, eh? Its about time a new office building gets built...and a triple grade A, wow! This should fill some of the demand that is tightening up.

Isnt Standard & Chartered Bank building right next to Jaka? or is there an empty lot between them, suitable for this new project?
EDIT: Nevermind, in my picture of the skyline it shows and empty lot between them

Here is roughly how the skyline would look like once its built...no more dome like appearance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/GreyX/P1010274new.jpg

Not bad and pretty fast!

I've actually been shown a render recently, apparently even if Jaka gets built it's still taller as the 70 story Jaka has lower floor to floor I htink the standard 3m sot he 16 floor diff is negligible. (Sorry can't post the render as it's propietary and shown in confidence would have wanted to post it here to get our spirits up) I hope it pushes soon.

Some interesting news.

Spoke with an out of town architect and someone is planning to build the Philippines tallest building in the empty lot on Ayala Ave. besides the unfinished Jaka Tower. It's still in the planning stages but the requirement is for 56 stories with minimum 4.2 meters, floor to floor. This is supposed to be Manila's first triple grade A building better than anything built so far. Conceptual design is almost finished and will move on to detailed design soon. Definitely they know how high PBCOM is and have plans to exceed this. So we may have a new tallest building in the works soon, cross your fingers. Unless of course SM continues with it's 70 floor SMKS finally or someone finishes Jaka which is a 70 stories (but not really nice).

my fingers are crossed (pati sa paa) from now on. i hope it will have a very modern design.

Some interesting news.

Spoke with an out of town architect and someone is planning to build the Philippines tallest building in the empty lot on Ayala Ave. besides the unfinished Jaka Tower. It's still in the planning stages but the requirement is for 56 stories with minimum 4.2 meters, floor to floor. This is supposed to be Manila's first triple grade A building better than anything built so far. Conceptual design is almost finished and will move on to detailed design soon. Definitely they know how high PBCOM is and have plans to exceed this. So we may have a new tallest building in the works soon, cross your fingers. Unless of course SM continues with it's 70 floor SMKS finally or someone finishes Jaka which is a 70 stories (but not really nice).

was jaka tower suppose to be 70 stories high? i dont thnink so

^ Yeah, i thought it was 48 or 50 something.

Original design of Jaka was to be a "tallest building of the phil.". It was advertised as having over 70 stories!

Ah, okay, so Emporis is wrong. I hope Jaka gets built.
Is anyone here connected to Emporis?
It's pretty outdated now, it should be updated ASAP.

Emporis lacks local editors thats why they are outdated in many cities, including MM.

^ Tell me about it... :rant:

As for the proposed tallest, I actually don't like the site. What if for some bizarre reason, they actually start up and complete Jaka Tower at its full height? You think Burgundy/West of Ayala is bad? Imagine the tallest buildings in the country sticking to each other like that! The mere thought of it is very disturbing... :shocked:

I think the best site to build the tallest would be on the Westmont Bank site. Just imagine the beauty of the Makati City skyline if it can somehow maintained its distinct dome shape like how it is right now. Besides, it feels that there is a gap between PBCom and Robinsons Summit... :yes:

yeah btw, what's the update with jaka tower? they should continue and finish this project because the foundation is done....

haha, a wall-to-wall tallest towers would'nt look so nice.

As for the proposed tallest, I actually don't like the site. What if for some bizarre reason, they actually start up and complete Jaka Tower at its full height? You think Burgundy/West of Ayala is bad? Imagine the tallest buildings in the country sticking to each other like that! The mere thought of it is very disturbing... :shocked:


In that case, we have to hope that Jaka Tower wont resume construction;) This new proposed tallest (if true) sounds a lot better than Jaka (design and office facilities wise). They should prolly tear down Jaka anyways, exposed structural material like that wouldnt be good if they decide to continue with its construction.

I think these are not really true tallest tower type structures. They just try to go for it because it does not take much to go for it at 270 m . Wall to wall tall buildings are very common. Obviously downtown newyork and park ave come to mind same thing with HK central or specially wanchai. The ones that really stick out go over 300 m on a big lot which allows them to set back in a big way from all sides. In other words a really big building.

By the way it's in the papers today that skycity just won it's case versus east greenhills in the CA, so one more level up to supreme court but the SC seldome reverses CA judgements on things like this. We may see it restart the project soon, perhaps even next year or 2007. So you will still get your tall building, albeit in ortigas area or shall we say greenhills.

wow! very nice update there Bustero. Too bad for the residents. Good for everybody else. hehe...So are we finally expecting to see the Philippines' supertall rise from that deep hole? One good thing is...nothing has been laid there yet, like no solid foundations, etc. just the plain hole. i wonder where all those unearthen soils went to.

as for Jaka, I have a copy of the Newsweek magazine featuring the proposal. It was indeed proposed to have around 49 something floors only, but clailing itself to be the tallest. I'm not sure. I lost that copy. I think that was 1996 issue. It claimed itself to be the tallest tower in the country...and the rest is history. On the close look (from GT's foodcourt) you would notice that parking level is till the 12th floor. For a Phil standard on parking slot to total leasable space ratio...i think that would be enough for a 49 storey high tower. Not so sure on this. Citibank (34F) has till the 7th floor parking (5 basement levels). PB Com I guess has til 7th? LKG til 11th? PB Com has wider base. Anyway, enough with the explanation. Hehe...

And i would agree, that PB Com - Summit gap should be filled up. Too bad Wesmont did not materialize. I was able to peek into the construction area. And it has reached the ground level already. That is probably one of the reasons why the side of PB Com facing summit has somewhat a bare wall on it. but not really ugly imo. I just discovered it's made up of aluminum...parang cladding lang. Maybe there's concrete underneath?

That lot beside Jaka u/c is not so wide. As of now, it's being used as parking lot.
But if they decide to make it a little wider, they could occupy the whole block til dela rosa st., then we would still get a not so thin supertall, what do you think? tho that side facing ayala will be narrower than most supertalls nearby.

they should fasttrack construction if they are really serious of getting a market.
if Empire State was done in 2 year time, i guess we can also do it here...tho not as large scale as Empire.

by the way, 56 floors will not be too many floors. they should add more to beat the supposedly 85 (?) floors of SKycity just in case it materializes.

By the way it's in the papers today that skycity just won it's case versus east greenhills in the CA, so one more level up to supreme court but the SC seldome reverses CA judgements on things like this. We may see it restart the project soon, perhaps even next year or 2007. So you will still get your tall building, albeit in ortigas area or shall we say greenhills.

gud news, is it gonna be the same height?

I never thought I'd say this but minsan kawawa rin yung mga taga East Greenhills kasi dati those places were considered suburbia, now, panay high-rise na. Wala na silang open view. That's it for Greenhills suburban living.

In our neighborhood here in Park Slope, Brooklyn, the community is very active in pushing for zoning laws to give height restrictions on the newly sprouting edifices here. It's a very in demand place especially for hipsters and yuppies, and the community members would like to preserve their quality of lives and the historic value of the neighborhood.

wow this is great news. :master: but yes the fact that it is beside this.... 10 year old artifact of failure is not good. bustero do you know who owns the jaka tower lot? is it still enrile? anyways... what could the owner possibly do considering it's been a long time since last real construciton was done in Jaka tower, which btw i heard was only 49, this is the first time i heard it was 70. :?

That's what I remember lang, I'm probably wrong if Francis is looking at a newspaper article. But when they were building it, lot's of big building were going up too. I really remember it was 70 but don't trust my memory.

Jaka building is in limbo. Enrile can not pay. the banks are afraid to foreclose so they're looking for some sort of deal to sell it together. The building can still be continued. they would just need to do a strucutral audit and see if there are corrosion on the rebars. I did not see them do any preparations kasi to keep it in that state like corrosion prevention and the like. At worst probably retrofit.

I think Mr. Guanzon will still try to build the skycity at the same height if he can find the money. Parang landmark ng matanda iyan, his legacy, that's why he's been patiently battling it out in court.

Re Greenhills and in fact all the plush villages along EDSA. My take on this is that there are probably only about 1000 to 2000 rich familes living there occupying around 800 to 1000 hectares. Imagine if you could build high rises on these. The common people woul d have an easier time commuting. And the ironic part is that all of these homeowners would actually become richer as the value of property would go up with the abitliy to create greater value for everyone. If I was in charge of MM city planning I would actually have it rezoned or at the very least taxed because of the opportunity cost for the greater good for the greater number of people. That way you dont need to build more expensive infrastructure going all the way to the south.

If my my memory serves, JAKA Tower was supposed to be around 59 storeys, but when the asian crisis hit, they scaled it down to 40+ until it was put on hold entirely. Original project cost was pegged at 2B and then it ballooned to 4B

But I do recall the print ads they published then: they had a rendering of the building rising amidst the clouds! :D

Oh yeah. It was during the go-go years, when the Jaka Tower was being proposed, that Jackie Enrile, then CEO of the Jaka Group, bought a Ferrari F50 for over 100m! *shock*

Well now that Enrile is senator again Doesn't that mean they'll have enough funds again to finish the Jaka Tower.

The rumored tallest tower!! :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/jafhoy/TallestTower.jpg

^^ that's an 80-storey all-glass and steel tower (that's 1033 ft)

I think with 56 stories it's really only marginally taller than PBCOM. I don't think it'll touch 300 m. Maybe around 280 or something like that.

Well now that Enrile is senator again Doesn't that mean they'll have enough funds again to finish the Jaka Tower.

like "diversion of funds" or some sort? hehe

I think with 56 stories it's really only marginally taller than PBCOM. I don't think it'll touch 300 m. Maybe around 280 or something like that.

Yeah, the one Fhoy posted is very tall. But the design is awesome, why dont you show this to your connections at that architectural firm, bustero and it may get them some ideas:D

looks like one of the renderings for the replacement of WTC. or no?

i didnt like the coke design, it seems like a broken broom or stick. dont u think so

i didnt like the coke design, it seems like a broken broom or stick. dont u think so
:lol: now that u mention it

LOVE IT! i thought that was the actual design, lets hope it's a good looking one

Damn, too bad. With all these condos going up if we were sourcing our own steel then that would surely help the economy. I guess Korea is getting the benefit.

I read somewhere that back in the late 60's or early 70's Philippines was on the verge of becoming a major steel producer. I believe it was either thru Jacinto or Ysmael Steel but of course Marcos confiscated or somehow put an end to this development.

We could have been second in Asia to Japan in steel production and conceivably would be one of the top 5 steel producers today.

^ so what happened to it, No investors tried to revive the project.

Some interesting news.

Spoke with an out of town architect and someone is planning to build the Philippines tallest building in the empty lot on Ayala Ave. besides the unfinished Jaka Tower. It's still in the planning stages but the requirement is for 56 stories with minimum 4.2 meters, floor to floor. This is supposed to be Manila's first triple grade A building better than anything built so far. Conceptual design is almost finished and will move on to detailed design soon. Definitely they know how high PBCOM is and have plans to exceed this. So we may have a new tallest building in the works soon, cross your fingers. Unless of course SM continues with it's 70 floor SMKS finally or someone finishes Jaka which is a 70 stories (but not really nice).


Do you know where on ayala? it's not related to the Raya Suites project is it? I know Raya Suites is projected to be taller than PBCom.

Anyone know this???

Triple Tower Condominiums, Malate, Manila
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/triple_tower.jpg

I counted roughly 38-storeys on the center tower.

I maybe wrong but isn't this the project of Elena S. Lim's
Solid Group, Inc.? Because of the slump in the local electronics sector, she decided to venture in condominum development and announced a three-tower project in Malate.

Do you know where on ayala? it's not related to the Raya Suites project is it? I know Raya Suites is projected to be taller than PBCom.

That reminds me...whats the status on Raya Suites?

To answer my own question...

Solid Group pools funds for
Manila tri-tower development


SOLID Group Inc. (SGI) aims to pool internally generated funds to finance the construction of a thirty-story tri-tower in Manila.

The P1-billion project is aimed at providing affordable condominium facilities for the mid-income market.

David Lim, SGI president and chief executive officer, said the 5,000-square-meter Zen tower project will be completed after 18 months to two years of construction.

Work will begin in September, while bidding for the structure would be done this month. The building’s foundation, Lim said, is in place.

The first tower, which has 200 units, would require P350 million.

“The only thing moving in the market [these days] are mid-income [homes],” said Lim. “As long as we have the cash, we will finance the whole project,” he said.

The towers would have a small studio, one bedroom and two bedroom-type condominiums. Each studio unit would be 26-square-meters while the others would be larger.

Owing to the size of the units, a minimalist design will be used for the model units, Lim said.

“Our target market’s budget [for the units] fit into their Pag-Ibig loans, [which is] around P1 million to P2 million,” he added.

Preselling for the units will begin by the second semester. Other properties up for future development include prime commercial properties in Ermita and T.M. Kalaw streets.

Last year the company posted a net income of P88.24 million, from a net loss of P298.54 million in 2003, due to gains in its broadband and real-estate businesses.

Destiny Cable and Global Destiny increased revenues by 16 percent to P191 million, from its broadband and internet services.

Starworld Corp., its real-estate business, increased its sales of industrial-estate properties and reported revenues of P225.55 million while Solid Manila Corp., another real-estate subsidiary, posted P112 million in revenues last year.
--Cai U. Ordinario

Raya Suites is still very much a paper project like this one. But I know this one is moving, the Raya one was in a much more conceptual stage without an architect picked. This one has a paid foreign architect. Lot is along ayala right beside Jaka on the western side.

Re. Steel. Jacinto Steel put up an integrated steel plant in the late 60's - early 70's. This was actually one of the first huge economic debacles of the Marcos era. Jacinot claimed that like Lopez , marcos was just confiscating their company. In reality a credible third party group with SGV people had an investigation and it was found that the group had actually diverted a portion of the money. Eventually the plant was foreclosed and turned into National Steel Corp. Roberto Ongpin then Marcos Trade Minister dreamed up 11 huge Industrial Projects one of which was this. So more money was poured into it to form the backbone of the Philippine Steel Industry, unfortuantely like many projects of the government it did not do well. This sordid company is actually on it's 4th life with the Mittal group, previously with the Malaysians in the 90's and gov't in the 70's and 80's.

so this one along ayala beside Jaka has greater possibilities of getting built?
if raya materializes, it would be taller than both pb com and that one beside jaka imo.

re. steel, the major steel players in the world export market now are Russia and India. China also produces a lot and has Russia as its source, but they only manufacture just enough to sustain its self developments. few is left for export. Russia is a big player, no question on that. They have the resources. I dont know where on earth does India get its irons. we get our supply from there countries. too bad.

so this one along ayala beside Jaka has greater possibilities of getting built?
if raya materializes, it would be taller than both pb com and that one beside jaka imo.

re. steel, the major steel players in the world export market now are Russia and India. China also produces a lot and has Russia as its source, but they only manufacture just enough to sustain its self developments. few is left for export. Russia is a big player, no question on that. They have the resources. I dont know where on earth does India get its irons. we get our supply from there countries. too bad.
oh, I always thought it was Korea. Maybe they used to be.

I think with 56 stories it's really only marginally taller than PBCOM. I don't think it'll touch 300 m. Maybe around 280 or something like that.

Does anybody know what the name of this office-tower would be? Could it be THE BINAY TOWER? He is, after all, the Philippines' richest mayor!

Binay Tower ?? Not for anything else , it does not matter if it is the surname of the mayor , but what the heck, it really it does not have any prestige to it naming it Binay Tower , maybe a better sounding name will do.

*shudders* indeed, it's a what the heck kind of name. :bash:

damn, we forgot about the Raya Suites. haha so much 50+ storey projects in paper.

Does anybody know what the name of this office-tower would be? Could it be THE BINAY TOWER? He is, after all, the Philippines' richest mayor!
Hahaha, but are you serious , there was supposed to be a project like this!

Hahaha, but are you serious , there was supposed to be a project like this!

Sorry, but I was just joking - but who knows? Considering the tons and tons of money, the vast track of lands here and there, condominium units over at Rockwell and elsewhere in this universe Binay and his family have amassed/acquired as Makati's political kingpins for decades, building that kind of tower could be chickens for them.

I just read the Manila Tribune today. It mentions of The Columns along Arnaiz st., one block away from greenbelt. Where could that be? It will be a composed of 41-storey bilevel twin towers.

arnaiz is pasay road right??

I just read the Manila Tribune today. It mentions of The Columns along Arnaiz st., one block away from greenbelt. Where could that be? It will be a composed of 41-storey bilevel twin towers.

The rumored tallest tower!! :D

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/jafhoy/TallestTower.jpg



i wish they would start building taller towers in metro manila like 300m high and above to make our skylines much livelier...

I just read the Manila Tribune today. It mentions of The Columns along Arnaiz st., one block away from greenbelt. Where could that be? It will be a composed of 41-storey bilevel twin towers.

huh?... my office is on Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road).. a block away from Greenbelt.... there will be another Columns on this street?... I don't know if there is a big lot on this stretch to allow that.... unless they'd demolish the Goldilocks building and the building beside it... but the lot is still quite narrow... and is directly adjacent to San Antonio village...

Sorry, but I was just joking - but who knows? Considering the tons and tons of money, the vast track of lands here and there, condominium units over at Rockwell and elsewhere in this universe Binay and his family have amassed/acquired as Makati's political kingpins for decades, building that kind of tower could be chickens for them.
hehe buk buk buk

for the others

yes Arnaiz is Pasay road

and yes you're talking about the new columns legaspi , i think we have a thread on it already , at least it was announced here

yes, it's arnaiz rd. would it be on Sn Antonio or GB side? what do you think guys? there's not much free space on the greenbelt side. so i'd guess its across the street where the structures are more demolishable.

and it was indeed announced here, but very limited details...only mentioning that it will have loft levels. i thought it would be another trio like their cousins at Buendia. Pero twins pala. Sana it would be another nice addition.

maybe don sa corner nang makati ave and pasay road.. parang sinarado na yung rows of resto don?

yes, it's arnaiz rd. would it be on Sn Antonio or GB side? what do you think guys? there's not much free space on the greenbelt side. so i'd guess its across the street where the structures are more demolishable.

and it was indeed announced here, but very limited details...only mentioning that it will have loft levels. i thought it would be another trio like their cousins at Buendia. Pero twins pala. Sana it would be another nice addition.

the lot facing New World Renaissance Hotel?... I don't think it would fit there... unless the japanese/seafood restaurant there is demolished....

yes, it's arnaiz rd. would it be on Sn Antonio or GB side? what do you think guys? there's not much free space on the greenbelt side. so i'd guess its across the street where the structures are more demolishable.

and it was indeed announced here, but very limited details...only mentioning that it will have loft levels. i thought it would be another trio like their cousins at Buendia. Pero twins pala. Sana it would be another nice addition.

I think there is some confusion here: I believe you meant SAN LORENZO - not San Antonio Village. I hope I have clarified the issue. Thank you.

OO nga yata. Bk san Lorenzo, di ba nga San Lorenzo Tower yung Residences 2nd tower? bec it's facing San Lorenzo Vill? And Laguna bec it's facing Laguna ba? hehe...
Anyway, basta one block away from GB. I dunno kung GB 2 or 3.

The lot of the former International School in Makati ave. is for sale.
Rumors had it that ALI is looking into buying that lot... could be another condo if it pushes-thru.

How big is that lot?

Pretty big, considering it was a school with facilities like a field. If ALI builds condos there, they may be able to fit 3-5 towers. It should be good for the skyline, making the northern Makati skyline denser. They should make sure the improve road access first, since Makati Ave in that area gets really jammed.

not a good location tho.. it will have the south cemetary as view..

The lot of the former International School in Makati ave. is for sale.
Rumors had it that ALI is looking into buying that lot... could be another condo if it pushes-thru.

How big is that lot?

yep. cemetery is not that far. it's also few meters away from makati avenue. by the way, improvements are now underway. i mean the road itself. thus the traffic jam everyday, worse than ever. int'l school lot is really huge, and it will be beside San Miguel village (?) and Bel Air Village. the very big plus will be a panoramic view both of manila and makati also of rockwell. If A-venue gets built, that area would become really dense. they should consider building a commercial building on that area.

I think the biggest problem there will be the access / traffic. The view perse is no big deal for many people and it's only on one side. Many people will still be happy to pay for the accesibility, & of course location location, location

it's really not along Makati Ave right? but it's on Kalayaan..

location is accessible. Manila and Mandaluyong area are not that far. And yes, it's technically along Kalayaan ave.

heard today from bdo that smks is still very much a paper project with no go ahead. so much for the articles.

At least one tower is completed up to the podium level so once it gets back on track, it will surely be a speedy construction.

the podium mall is getting luma. :( once they get started, we'd wait for another what? 1-2 years? tsk tsk..

What's up with this one? Haven't heard anything from it lately.

Megaworld to build P15-billion, 6000-unit Condo Project in Araneta Center, Cubao

http://www.megaworldcorp.com/_data/news/ACFCygf2D.jpg

Megaworld Corporation and Araneta Center, Inc. have joined hands in a P15-billion residential project that is the first of its kind to be integrated with the MRT-3 and LRT-2 mass transit systems that connect in Cubao, Quezon City. Under a joint venture agreement the two companies signed in August this year, Megaworld will build 17 buildings that host around 6,000 residential condominium units on a 4.2-hectare property owned by the Araneta Group at the 35-hectare Araneta Center. Transit-oriented Village The Megaworld –Araneta mega project is inspired by successful transport-oriented projects in Hong Kong and Tokyo. These are residential and leisure hubs built around major subway stations, offering unparalleled ease in mobility The project will offer fast and safe access to more places in Metro Manila than ever before as it will be only a few minutes away from all key points from north to south and east to west of Metro Manila along the service routes of the MRT-3 and LRT-2. The MRT-3 runs from North Avenue to Taft Avenue along EDSA while the LRT-2 is an eleven station , 14-kilometer line linking the east and west sides of Metro Manila. Both lines carry an average of 1.2 million passengers a day. Both systems also connect to the first LRT-1, which runs from Monumento in Caloocan to Baclaran in Parañaque. The LRT-1 joins with the MRT-3 at Taft Avenue in Pasay and the LRT-2 at Doroteo Jose in Recto. Pedestrian- and nature-friendly A focal point of the Megaworld –Araneta project is a three-story elevated walkway that will interconnect all 17 buildings & bring residents within walking distance to thr MRT-3 and LRT-2. The walkway will be the first in the country to feature garden-style landscaping and benches - making a walk to the train stations feel likea walk in a park. And with hundred of trees to be planted at the site, the project will highlight the Araneta Center as a scenic garden city. New Araneta Center Built by the Araneta family as the country’s first leisure and lifestyle complex in the 1960s, the Araneta Center is in the middle of redevelopment. In the pipeline are new residential and office buildings to be built around the P2.5 billion Gateway mall beside the Araneta Coliseum. Gateway was completed late last year by the Araneta Group of companies, which is into property development as well as food and beverage and leisure and entertainment. A top-notch architectural team led by US-based RTKL international designed the mall as a modern shopping and leisure hub. Among its chief attractions is the Oasis, an indoor hanging garden open to the sky that boasts 50-foot royal palm trees. It also hosts a state-of-the-art, 10 theatre Cineplex equipped with Dolby EX Digital Surround system and the country’s first and only La-Z- Boy cinema.

6000 units and 17 condo buildings? what a massive project. :eek:
I like how it will be integrated with the transportation infrastructure in the area. And its good that Megaworld and the Aranetas teamed up on project to fulfill Araneta Center's new vision to revitalize as a modern retail, commercial and transportation hub. And i'm glad they are envisioning a lush garden-style concept, with more trees...something MM needs:okay:

I hope these condos wont be generic and dull like Sao Paulo or Seoul's apartments. They should make each of the 17 buildings exciting and unique. Hope we get renderings soon.

and I hope they would prefer having underground parking areas with gardens or parks on top....

Good news, but the pollution along EDSA and Aurora Boulevard may be a problem. The first phase will rise beside the soon-to-be renovated New Frontier.

That's what I remember lang, I'm probably wrong if Francis is looking at a newspaper article. But when they were building it, lot's of big building were going up too. I really remember it was 70 but don't trust my memory.

Jaka building is in limbo. Enrile can not pay. the banks are afraid to foreclose so they're looking for some sort of deal to sell it together. The building can still be continued. they would just need to do a strucutral audit and see if there are corrosion on the rebars. I did not see them do any preparations kasi to keep it in that state like corrosion prevention and the like. At worst probably retrofit.

I think Mr. Guanzon will still try to build the skycity at the same height if he can find the money. Parang landmark ng matanda iyan, his legacy, that's why he's been patiently battling it out in court.

Re Greenhills and in fact all the plush villages along EDSA. My take on this is that there are probably only about 1000 to 2000 rich familes living there occupying around 800 to 1000 hectares. Imagine if you could build high rises on these. The common people woul d have an easier time commuting. And the ironic part is that all of these homeowners would actually become richer as the value of property would go up with the abitliy to create greater value for everyone. If I was in charge of MM city planning I would actually have it rezoned or at the very least taxed because of the opportunity cost for the greater good for the greater number of people. That way you dont need to build more expensive infrastructure going all the way to the south.

Eighth division of Supreme Court rules in favor of EGI on Skycity project; Greenhills East Association to appeal.

What's up with this one? Haven't heard anything from it lately.

Megaworld to build P15-billion, 6000-unit Condo Project in Araneta Center, Cubao

http://www.megaworldcorp.com/_data/news/ACFCygf2D.jpg

Megaworld Corporation and Araneta Center, Inc. have joined hands in a P15-billion residential project that is the first of its kind to be integrated with the MRT-3 and LRT-2 mass transit systems that connect in Cubao, Quezon City. Under a joint venture agreement the two companies signed in August this year, Megaworld will build 17 buildings that host around 6,000 residential condominium units on a 4.2-hectare property owned by the Araneta Group at the 35-hectare Araneta Center. Transit-oriented Village The Megaworld –Araneta mega project is inspired by successful transport-oriented projects in Hong Kong and Tokyo. These are residential and leisure hubs built around major subway stations, offering unparalleled ease in mobility The project will offer fast and safe access to more places in Metro Manila than ever before as it will be only a few minutes away from all key points from north to south and east to west of Metro Manila along the service routes of the MRT-3 and LRT-2. The MRT-3 runs from North Avenue to Taft Avenue along EDSA while the LRT-2 is an eleven station , 14-kilometer line linking the east and west sides of Metro Manila. Both lines carry an average of 1.2 million passengers a day. Both systems also connect to the first LRT-1, which runs from Monumento in Caloocan to Baclaran in Parañaque. The LRT-1 joins with the MRT-3 at Taft Avenue in Pasay and the LRT-2 at Doroteo Jose in Recto. Pedestrian- and nature-friendly A focal point of the Megaworld –Araneta project is a three-story elevated walkway that will interconnect all 17 buildings & bring residents within walking distance to thr MRT-3 and LRT-2. The walkway will be the first in the country to feature garden-style landscaping and benches - making a walk to the train stations feel likea walk in a park. And with hundred of trees to be planted at the site, the project will highlight the Araneta Center as a scenic garden city. New Araneta Center Built by the Araneta family as the country’s first leisure and lifestyle complex in the 1960s, the Araneta Center is in the middle of redevelopment. In the pipeline are new residential and office buildings to be built around the P2.5 billion Gateway mall beside the Araneta Coliseum. Gateway was completed late last year by the Araneta Group of companies, which is into property development as well as food and beverage and leisure and entertainment. A top-notch architectural team led by US-based RTKL international designed the mall as a modern shopping and leisure hub. Among its chief attractions is the Oasis, an indoor hanging garden open to the sky that boasts 50-foot royal palm trees. It also hosts a state-of-the-art, 10 theatre Cineplex equipped with Dolby EX Digital Surround system and the country’s first and only La-Z- Boy cinema.

it's still in planning stage...don't worry, this project will push through.

Yeah, I know it will push-thru, being backed by Megaworld and Araneta Center, it surely will be brought to life.

where would be the exact location??? is it beside the square overpass?

I think it's here, where I placed the arrow and box.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/araneta-center_megaworld.jpg

^^ I dont think 17 buildings can fit there.

They can fit-- but they have to be reeeaaaallly tall and narrow and have 32 sub basements.

I just realized that if that's really the place, then Megaworld wouldn't need to do some extensive excavations because that lot has already been dug-up as a foundation before, but was filled with water to look like a lake.

That would probably make construction faster.

I just realized that if that's really the place, then Megaworld wouldn't need to do some extensive excavations because that lot has already been dug-up as a foundation before, but was filled with water to look like a lake.

That would probably make construction faster.

That site your talking about, the one filled with water, is the site of the shelved Manhattan Towers Condo project that was supposed to rise in the late eighties I believe. :)

Maybe it includes the new frontier theater lot, together they can fit in a lot of those california garden type condo's , medyo dikit dikit lang nga. Those buildings don't look very wide and if they're only 12 meters at it's width plus 6 meters in between , you can easily fit 11 in a 200 meter long lot and the lot there looks longer lenghtwise.

yes, it's arnaiz rd. would it be on Sn Antonio or GB side? what do you think guys? there's not much free space on the greenbelt side. so i'd guess its across the street where the structures are more demolishable.

and it was indeed announced here, but very limited details...only mentioning that it will have loft levels. i thought it would be another trio like their cousins at Buendia. Pero twins pala. Sana it would be another nice addition.

sa latest info, they said its a lot occupying a caltex gas station, so san ba merong caltex sa arnaiz? & the twins will be slightly taller than columns I, parang 38-40 stories as far as i can remember...nwaiz, pakigoogle nalang if u have d time :)

ehh yung corner nang amorsolo at arnaiz yata eh caltex.. tapat nang st. john bosco church??

sa latest info, they said its a lot occupying a caltex gas station, so san ba merong caltex sa arnaiz? & the twins will be slightly taller than columns I, parang 38-40 stories as far as i can remember...nwaiz, pakigoogle nalang if u have d time :)

It's on the corner facing racks right by the flyover. Good frontage on pasay and another street(delarosa???) with a back entrance to legazpi village. If it's 38 stories it will be much taller as it's supposed to be lofts from what i read here.

ohh.. yeah I heard that there will be a high rise that will replace that Caltex station at the corner of Arnaiz Ave and Amorsolo St.. that's why they have blocked off the Benavidez entrance.... wow.. 38 storeys.. that's tall....

Maybe it includes the new frontier theater lot, together they can fit in a lot of those california garden type condo's , medyo dikit dikit lang nga. Those buildings don't look very wide and if they're only 12 meters at it's width plus 6 meters in between , you can easily fit 11 in a 200 meter long lot and the lot there looks longer lenghtwise.

I don't think that the lot of the New Frontier will be included... they are renovating the theatre to become a newer moviehouse..:D

hindi kaya magka oversupply tayo ng condos pagdating ng 2008-2012?

kulang pa nga yan.. sa dami nang population nang Metro Manila..

hindi kaya magka oversupply tayo ng condos pagdating ng 2008-2012?

true that.. migration from the provinces still continues on... 15 million in MM by 2010 is a possibility, what's the current population now, 12m? add to that the overseas pinoys who love to own a residence during their visits back home.

Though I do wish we can instead develop the provincial capitals, or major cities in Visayas and Mindanao. So that they can migrate to their regional hubs.

It's a great investment these. And with the positioning of many, it beats the traffic.

uhmmm... as of to-date.. MM is 15million strong already....

are you guys talking about the price of the condo or the population. now im confused.

population....

off the topic, but my relatives is getting into some bizznez about buying some house or condo, and rent it to the foreigner for a week or so, because they bought some houses in orlando and lasvegas and rent it to the foreigner or whoever for a moment of time. i dont know, just wondering can they do that over there. kasi nga masmura bahay eh

yup.. pwede..

check mo sa www.housinginteractive.com (http://www.housinginteractive.com)

daming condo units dyan for rent.. Essensa condo's for 140T-150T a month.. Boni Ridge condos for 80T - 100T a month..


off the topic, but my relatives is getting into some bizznez about buying some house or condo, and rent it to the foreigner for a week or so, because they bought some houses in orlando and lasvegas and rent it to the foreigner or whoever for a moment of time. i dont know, just wondering can they do that over there. kasi nga masmura bahay eh

Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214800

Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs II: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214804

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List of Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs:

+ = u/c
++ = u/c, topped-off

1. ++Malayan Plaza, Ortigas Center - 38 floors
2. NorthPointe Residences Tower I, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
3. NorthPointe Residences Tower II, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
4. NorthPointe Residences Tower III, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
5. NorthPointe Residences Tower IV, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
6. ++The Columns Tower I, Makati - 30 floors
7. ++The Columns Tower II, Makati - 30 floors
8. +The Columns Tower III, Makati - 30 floors (u/c at podium level)
9. +The Saint Francis Tower I, Ortigas Center - 60 floors (excavation)
10. +The Saint Francis Tower II, Ortigas Center - 60 floors (excavation)
11. ++The Shang Grand Tower, Makati - 46 floors
12. The Metropolitan at Metroclub, Makati - 48 floors
13. +Anaheim Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
14. +Anaheim Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
15. +Anaheim Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
16. +Anaheim Tower IV of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
17. +Burbank Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
18. +Burbank Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
19. +Burbank Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
20. +Carlton Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
21. +Carlton Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
22. +Carlton Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
23. +Dayton Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
24. +Dayton Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
25. +Dayton Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
26. +Fairfax Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
27. +Fairfax Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
28. +Fairfax Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
29. +El Dorado Tower I of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
30. +El Dorado Tower II of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
31. +El Dorado Tower III of California Garden Square, Mandaluyong City
32. +G.A. Tower I, Mandaluyong City – 30 bilevel floors = 60
33. G.A. Tower II, Mandaluyong City – 30 bilevel floors = 60
34. Gateway Garden Ridge, Mandaluyong City - 15 bilevel floors = 30
35. Gateway Garden Ridge Tower 2, Mandaluyong City
36. Gateway Garden Ridge Tower 3, Mandaluyong City
37. Gateway Garden Heights North Tower, Mandaluyong City
38. Gateway Garden Heights South Tower, Mandaluyong City
39. Gateway Garden Heights East Tower, Mandaluyong City
40. Gateway Garden Heights West Tower, Mandaluyong City - 15 bilevel floors = 30
41. +Laguna Tower of The Residences at Greenbelt - 48 floors
42. San Lorenzo Tower of The Residences at Greenbelt
43. Tower III of The Residences at Greenbelt - <48 floors
44. +One Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
45. Two Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
46. Three Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
47. +One Gateway Place, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors (excavation)
48. +One Corporate Center, Ortigas Center (excavation)
49. ++Xavier Hills Tower I, San Juan - 12 bilevel floors = 24
50. ++Xavier Hills Tower II, San Juan - 14 bilevel floors = 28
51. ++Xavier Hills Tower III, San Juan - 19 bilevel floors = 38
52. ++Robinsons Cybergate Center, Mandaluyong City - 18 floors
53. Robinsons Cybergate Center Two, Mandaluyong City - 25 floors
54. +Joya Lofts at Rockwell Center North Tower - 46 floors (excavation)
55. +Joya Lofts at Rockwell Center South Tower - 44 floors (excavation)
56. ++The Manansala at Rockwell Center - 41 floors
57. +SOHO Central, Mandaluyong City - 35 floors (excavation)
58. +SOMA Tower I at BGC - 38 floors (excavation)
59. +SOMA Tower II at BGC - 38 floors (excavation)
60. +The Millenia Tower, Ortigas Center - 30 floors (excavation)
61. +Lancaster Suites Tower I, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
62. Lancaster Suites Tower II, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
63. Lancaster Suites Tower III, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
64. ++Lee Gardens Tower I, Mandaluyong City
65. ++Lee Gardens Tower II, Mandaluyong City
66. Lee Garden Binondo Tower I
67. Lee Garden Binondo Tower II
68. Dansalan Gardens Tower II, Mandaluyong City (u/c on-hold at 2nd level)
69. Dansalan Gardens Tower III, Mandaluyong City (u/c on-hold at 2nd level)
70. +Eastwood Parkview Tower I - 40 floors (basement-level works)
71. +Eastwood Parkview Tower II - 40 floors (basement-level works)
72. +One Central Park at Eastwood City - 38 floors (basement-level works)
73. Eastwood Hotel and Residential Suites - 38 floors (basement-level works)
74. +The Grand Eastwood Palazzo - 38 floors
75. +One Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
76. ++Two Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
77. ++Three Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
78. West Parque at FCC
79. Vivant Flats at FCC
80. Pioneer Pointe, Mandaluyong City - 30 floors
81. +The Bellagio Tower I - 38 floors (excavation)
82. The Bellagio Tower II - 38 floors
83. The Bellagio Tower III - 38 floors
84. The Icon Residences at BGC - 33 floors
85. Possible Twin of Icon
86. +Skyline Tower at Andrea North Complex (beside Nestlé along Aurora blvd.), QC - 33 floors
87. +The Mondrian Residences at FCC
88. +The Capitol Plaza, QC - 33 floors (almost topped-off, but on-hold
89. The Capitol Place at BGC (multiple towers)
90. ++The Regalia Parkplace Tower I, QC - 33 floors (exterior painting works)
91. ++The Regalia Parkplace Tower II, QC - 33 floors
92. Serendra at BGC (excavation)
93. ++Agoho Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
94. ++Bauhinia Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
95. ++Cambridge Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
96. +Dorchester Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
97. +Evergreen Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
98. +Florida Tower of Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center, BGC
99. +Fairways Tower at BGC - 33 floors (excavation)
100. Hamptons Place at BGC - 20 floors
101. +Kensington Place at BGC - 21 floors (excavation)
102. The Marquee Tower I, Makati - 40 floors
103. The Marquee Tower II, Makati - 40 floors
104. The Marquee Tower III, Makati - 47 floors
105. ++Golden Bay Condominium Washington Tower at Asiaworld City
106. ++Golden Bay Condominium Cleveland Tower at Asiaworld City
107. +Golden Bay Condominium McKinley Tower at Asiaworld City (on-hold at approx 2/3 of its height)
108. +Golden Bay Condominium Marina Tower at Asiaworld City (almost topped-off, but on-hold)
109. Burgundy Crowne, Katipunan Ave., QC
110. +St. Luke's BGC Nursing Tower (excavation)
111. +St. Luke's BGC Medical Arts Tower (excavation)
112. +The Eaton Makati - 48 floors (u/c at basement-level)
113. The A.venue Makati - North Tower
114. The A.venue Makati - South Tower
115. +Cityland Corinthian Executive Regency, Ortigas Center - 38 floors
116. Cityland Pacific Regency, Vito Cruz, Manila
117. +Cityland Makati Executive Tower II
118. +One Aeropolis, Parañaque - 12 floors
119. Two Aeropolis, Parañaque - 12 floors
120. Aeropolis 2 New Manila Tower I
121. Aeropolis 2 New Manila Tower II
122. Aeropolis 2 New Manila Tower III
123. Aeropolis 2 New Manila Tower IV
124. Aeropolis 2 New Manila Tower V
125. +Torre Venezia, Quezon City - 33 floors
126. +AIC Empire, Ortigas Center
127. AIC Crowne Suites, Ortigas Center
128. +AIC Grande, Ortigas Center
129. Raya Suites by Discovery Suites (replacement for Gilarmi) - 70+ floors
130. +Amvel Mansions, Parañaque (several towers, varied heights)
131. Net Two Center at BGC - 18 floors
132. Viera at Brittany Bay, Parañaque
133. 1880 Eastwood Avenue
134. Federal Land's Bay Condo Tower I beside Bay Gardens
135. Federal Land's Bay Condo Tower II beside Bay Gardens
136. Ayala Land's San Lazaro Condominium Complex under CII and LPHI.
137. The Quadrilion Plaza, Ortigas Center (on-hold at 3rd level)
138. Manila Tower, Araneta Center (proposed communications tower)
139. Proposed Business Hotel at the current site of the Araneta Residence in Araneta Center
140. Manila Tower at Araneta Center
141. Raphael Condo at Ortigas Center
142. Legaspi Tower, Makati (on-hold at x level)
143. Jaka Tower, Makati (on-hold at x level)
144. SM-KS, Ortigas Center (on-hold at podium level)
145. One ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center - 41 floors (on-hold)
146. Lopez Center at Rockwell Center - 55 floors (on-hold)
147. Ritz Carlton Hotel at Rockwell Center - 55 floors (on-hold at podium level)
148. EGI Skycity, EDSA - Ortigas (on-hold)
149. The Columbarium - 12 floors
150. SSS IT Center Tower I - 33 floors
151. SSS IT Center Tower II - 33 floors


where's the updated part of this?

Wah! :cry: I'm so busy in school... but I'm still working on it. ;)

^^ Its alright:) Take as much time as you need. School goes first.

the tallest tower in the philippines will be the residence at greenbelt, the san lorenzo tower... kewL...

is that just tallest for residential or commercial too.

both....

^ by commercial, do you mean office? If so, then no...because PBcom will still be taller.

Skycity legality upheld
HIDDEN AGENDA By Mary Ann LL. Reyes
The Philippine Star 10/16/2005

We’ve just learned that the Court of Appeals has dismissed for lack of merit a motion for reconsideration filed by the Greenhills East Association against property developer E. Ganzon Inc. paving the way for the much-delayed construction of a 77-storey building at the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue. The said homeowners‚ association sought a reconsideration by the CA on a decision of the Office of the President and the Housing and Land Use Regulatory Board (HLURB) which found that the Skycity project of E. Ganzon does not prejudice anyone. In sustaining the decision of the OP and the HLURB, the CA noted that there are applicable and specific rules governing appeals from the decisions of the HLURB, adding that the rules of the National Labor Relations Commission or general administrative rules will not apply in the determination of appeals since the HLURB already provides for such rules. Clearly, the decision was based on a technicality. The real concerns of the homeowners‚ association pertaining to the possible adverse effects of the project were not addressed, but what can we do?

i apologize if this has been posted somewhere already. thanks.

Wow! if this was posted somewhere, I read it here anyway. so it's all right.
So...are we expecting a new supertall on the u/c list in few months?
Then these mushrooming residentials will have to beat Skycity as the tallest building in the country. If 1CC (One corporate Centre) gets built, it will hold the title for only little time. Thanks for that ka Tyronne.

no problem, ka francis. hindi ko na hinanap kung napost na to sa ibang thread kasi excited ako sa news hehe!

What are their concerns? The homeowners, I mean. I don't think their property values will go down as more commercial development happens around them. (or does it?) I thought that increasing urbanization only makes urban residential areas more expensive?

I have always thought of Greenhills East as the least desirable Greenhills anyway. With La Salle and Santuario de San Jose there, it's always been a busy subdivision. But SkyCity will be built outside of Greenhills East. You don't even need to go into the village to get to it.

Someone here posted a while I go if I'm not mistaken , that Skycity was a hoax. which is it. So it's real then?

What are their concerns? The homeowners, I mean. I don't think their property values will go down as more commercial development happens around them. (or does it?) I thought that increasing urbanization only makes urban residential areas more expensive?

I have always thought of Greenhills East as the least desirable Greenhills anyway. With La Salle and Santuario de San Jose there, it's always been a busy subdivision. But SkyCity will be built outside of Greenhills East. You don't even need to go into the village to get to it.

The building is so tall that it would cast a shadow on their homes. This concern is common in any high rise development that is built near the proximity of old farts, which a lot of East Greenhills people are. But that is the price of progress so if they don't want shadows casting on their homes, then they should move away to less civilized areas. Besides, I think its just an excuse since rich Filipinos don't like the sun that much anyway.

Another concern is the proximity of the building to the subdivision, they fear that it would drain the water before it reaches their homes. This is silly since there are other developments, one across EDSA that can use up as much water as Skycity but still not affect an adjacent subdivision. Robinsons Galleria is right across Corinthian Gardens but I do not know of instances or protest that mixed used commercial development drained their water supply.

And finally, there is the increased in traffic. But then again, that happens with or without Skycity and Metro Manila is endeavouring to alleviate that by improving its roads and mass transit systems. Increased in traffic due to Skycity is a good thing since it provides so many jobs and economic opportunities for thousands upon thousands of Filipinos, more so than their fancy mansions.

^^ so pwede pa ba to i-elevate sa SC o final na?

so what the difference casting a shadow in someone's building and casting shadows in someone's house. Doesnt ert goes around?

Uh ibib mo ba sabihim bilog ang mundo!

My sentiments exactly with the people livng along the exclusive villages along EDSA. Most of them are just obstructionist who want things done their way and are not looking at the greater good.

In this case they're using the fact that the corner was not classified C3 before whcih would allow a tall building along EDSA. This goes all the way from Anapolis to Shaw. The old classification still stands and in fact there are several cases for this. The area was rezoned. The association basically said that it was spot zoned and that was illegal, of course mandaluyong would not have an easy time rezoning the whole place to begin with. In any case while it's obvious to anyone there that it is easily C3 classification, the association sued on the grounds on technicality. Well hopefully the whole case will be done and will serve as future jurisprudence for things like this.

so Skycity is still alive? But will there be enough demand and interest in this that it is still worth it's 77 floors? I hate to see a rotting 77 storey buildings, or a halfway built concrete Jaka Tower like in the middle of EDSA

Of course Renell. It would be the tallest building on the country. That'd be a big plus in marketing the structure for possible tenants. Besides, we have a boom of office space demand now. I now believe that Skycity will be official. I've seen another article at Businessworld (Fri-Sat issue). It says construction will resume next year and that the tower will be 335 m high.

I would love to see Skycity rise, and I hope it would spur a really big competition between Ortigas and Makati on which area will build the "tallest tower in the Philippines". Kinda like the one between Chrysler Building and 40 Wall Steet (? not sure name) in New York, nung dinagdagan ng Chrysler ng spire yung kanya?

Of course Renell. It would be the tallest building on the country. That'd be a big plus in marketing the structure for possible tenants. Besides, we have a boom of office space demand now. I now believe that Skycity will be official. I've seen another article at Businessworld (Fri-Sat issue). It says construction will resume next year and that the tower will be 335 m high.

Francis, is it possible for you or someone to scan that article of Business World and post it here?

Of course Renell. It would be the tallest building on the country. That'd be a big plus in marketing the structure for possible tenants. Besides, we have a boom of office space demand now. I now believe that Skycity will be official. I've seen another article at Businessworld (Fri-Sat issue). It says construction will resume next year and that the tower will be 335 m high.

Awesome, that made my day....(especially after a dissapointing F1 race in Shanghai, eh renell?)

Yeah I hope it pushes trought that will be a very nice addition. Sometimes these exclusive subdivisions can be so arrogant.

Of course Renell. It would be the tallest building on the country. That'd be a big plus in marketing the structure for possible tenants. Besides, we have a boom of office space demand now. I now believe that Skycity will be official. I've seen another article at Businessworld (Fri-Sat issue). It says construction will resume next year and that the tower will be 335 m high.

wow, san daw pala itatayo, is it gona cluster w/da the rest of the bilding of ortigas or its standing by itself

Sa kanto ng Edsa at Ortigas. Kung saan dati ay merong Tropical Hut supermarket (northwestern corner of the intersection) na ngayon ay isang napaka lalim na butas sa lupa. Kaya ito'y nasa labas ng Ortigas CBD-- sa tapat ng POEA building sa Ortigas Ave, La Salle Greenhills side. Mag isa lang siyang nakatayo, isang higanteng walang kasama, parang si Benjie Paras sa tabi ni Mahal.

^okey na rin kahit na nagiisa, sana gawan na lang ng skydeck para makita lahat ng manila

yeah a view deck and a restaurant on top. I'm sure that'll be a hit with Pinoys penchant to eat.

taken from emporis.com

- The project is planned to sit on a 4,000 square metre site with the tower providing commercial, residential and hotel uses (220 rooms).
- The tower will also feature a podium plaza with a movie theatre complex, podium vehicle parking and a shopping mall on eight levels situated below ground level.
- Also featured, is an observation area known as 'Skyview', the highest occupyable space in the capital.

Do any of you remember when the Meralco Building was the tallest building in the country and the top floor was a restaurant called The Lighthouse? Should be something like that... a nice classy place that plays up its status as highest in the nation-- kind of like the old Windows on the World in the World Trade Center.

^^ so pwede pa ba to i-elevate sa SC o final na?

if they elevate it to the supreme court theres a possibility that they will ask for tro to stop the construction of the tower , the sc i beleive may or may not accept the case depending on its merit or legal issues, if the court rejects the appeal then the coa decision is final

oh.. this is good news.. I hope that Skycity would really push through this time... I would like to see any future collapse on their big hole on that corner of EDSA....

Small Skycity update....

Below is the article from Business World that is now posted in the Colliers International Website. It also includes how the project will be financed. One thing interesting is the deadline for the Supreme Court application, which is 60 days. I strongly request for the local forumers to keep us updated on this, whether those East Greenhills NIMBYs were to actually file it....

Homeowners Lose Suit Vs Skyscraper Project
Business World 9/29/05

The developer of the 77-storey Skycity project at the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue has scored a victory over a homeowners’ association protesting construction of the country’s tallest building. In a resolution
promulgated last September 14, the Court of Appeals said it threw out the
Greenhills East Association’s bid to prevent Skycity’s proponents from proceeding with the project, citing no new arguments were presented. Greenhills East’s only recourse is to elevate the matter to the Supreme
Court. Work on the Skycity will resume if no Supreme Court appeal is filed within 60 days. This project has already been delayed for 10 years. The company has already lost around P500 million over the 10-year delay in construction. The proponents of the project hope to be able to
reactivate funding sources for the project, originally set to be built via supplier’s credit and the Bank of China. A joint venture between E. Ganzon and Sam Buena Realty Corp., the owner of a 4,119-square meter property, Skycity was envisioned to be the country’s tallest building at a
height of 335 meters. The project, located on the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue and beside the Philippine Overseas Employment Administration, will have 210,000 square meters of leasable space, inclusive of a 25-storey five-star hotel. It will also have an eight-level basement and
a top floor with a view of over 100 kilometers.

^WOW 500MILLION lost, ofcourse theyre gonna take it out easliy from the tenants.

Small Skycity update....

Below is the article from Business World that is now posted in the Colliers International Website. It also includes how the project will be financed. One thing interesting is the deadline for the Supreme Court application, which is 60 days. I strongly request for the local forumers to keep us updated on this, whether those East Greenhills NIMBYs were to actually file it....

Homeowners Lose Suit Vs Skyscraper Project
Business World 9/29/05

The developer of the 77-storey Skycity project at the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue has scored a victory over a homeowners’ association protesting construction of the country’s tallest building. In a resolution
promulgated last September 14, the Court of Appeals said it threw out the
Greenhills East Association’s bid to prevent Skycity’s proponents from proceeding with the project, citing no new arguments were presented. Greenhills East’s only recourse is to elevate the matter to the Supreme
Court. Work on the Skycity will resume if no Supreme Court appeal is filed within 60 days. This project has already been delayed for 10 years. The company has already lost around P500 million over the 10-year delay in construction. The proponents of the project hope to be able to
reactivate funding sources for the project, originally set to be built via supplier’s credit and the Bank of China. A joint venture between E. Ganzon and Sam Buena Realty Corp., the owner of a 4,119-square meter property, Skycity was envisioned to be the country’s tallest building at a
height of 335 meters. The project, located on the corner of EDSA and Ortigas Avenue and beside the Philippine Overseas Employment Administration, will have 210,000 square meters of leasable space, inclusive of a 25-storey five-star hotel. It will also have an eight-level basement and
a top floor with a view of over 100 kilometers.


Thanks for the article, Wally:) Great news...I hope they will still be able to fund it.

uhmm.. wouldn't they be able to file any civil case against the Greenhills homeowners because of the financial losses they got from their project being delayed?...

If you pass by the site on MRT, you can see that an Underground-Jungle has already grown on the foundations. Baka mamaya mga environmentalist naman ang umalma sa construction ha. :D

taken from emporis.com

- The project is planned to sit on a 4,000 square metre site with the tower providing commercial, residential and hotel uses (220 rooms).
- The tower will also feature a podium plaza with a movie theatre complex, podium vehicle parking and a shopping mall on eight levels situated below ground level.
- Also featured, is an observation area known as 'Skyview', the highest occupyable space in the capital.

As far as I know, they changed the plans for the underground levels, and it will not be for a mall anymore, and I'm still not sure about that movie theatre complex.

hey, sorry for the delayed reply. do you still want me to scan the business world article? iuwi ko na lang kaya? kasi andito sa lounge/library ng office. not really sure if it was businessworld.

wow, another article, that would surely help. :okay:

can u jst imagine hundreds of people will get employed out of this big project plus a lot more when the builiding becomes operational sayang talaga its our chance to have at least a 1000 ft skyscraper, ortigas district im sure will be a nice postcard some day with sm-ks, skycity and st francis square together plus of course the whole other existing scrapers around

Consortium Sets $2-B Development Near NLEX
Business World - 9/14/05

A group led by Universal LRT Corp., Ltd.
(ULC) is planning to develop a 194-hectare
idle estate in Caloocan City near the
North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) for
some $2 billion. The estate will be developed
into a residential and commercial
zone by a consortium that includes Henry
Sy’s SM Investments Corp. and BDO Capital
and Investment Group, and Yuchencgoowned
EEI Corp. and PentaCapital Management
Corp. ULC said development will
start next year, with completion seen before
2010. SM Investments Corp. SM, will
build a shopping compound on a 10-hectare
lot. Adjacent to the mall will be a 20-
hectare commercial zone for buildings targeted
at companies engaged in outsourcing
and call center operations. Indian venture
capitalists will lease commercial spaces.
Class C and D residential areas patterned
after mass housing projects in Hong Kong
will also be spread over the estate. The
residential area will have 20,000 to 30,000
units that could house at least 500,000
individuals. Over time, the number of
units will be increased to 80,000.

wow.. that is going to be a very big project huh....

I think that's the mixed-use component of the MRT line-7 where it is connected to the final station in the north by a highway-road.

The TOP TEN 2005 awards recognize architectural firms and design institutes in eight key Asian markets making the greatest contribution to the built environment this year.

Winning firms were objectively identified by BCI Asia according to the aggregate value of their projects under design or breaking ground in 2004. BCI Asia's researchers interviewed 100,000 architects and other building professionals while compiling the data for these awards.

PHILIPPINES TOP 10, FOR 2005 (not in ranking order)

ASYA (Albert S. Yu & Associates) Design Partner
Edward Co Tan + Architects
GF & Partners, Architects, Co.
Jonathan O. Gan and Associates
Nestor S. Mangio & Associates
Palafox Associates
R. Villarosa Architects
RMJM Philippines, Inc.
Recio + Casas Associates
WV Coscolluela & Associates


hmmmm what about guys behind Projects like Hamptons, Penshurst And Kensington...i reckon they deserve to be in the top 10...

hey, sorry for the delayed reply. do you still want me to scan the business world article? iuwi ko na lang kaya? kasi andito sa lounge/library ng office. not really sure if it was businessworld.

Is it the article Wally posted? since it is from businessworld too.

The guys behind, Hamptons, Penhurst and Kensington are GW Architects.

If you pass by the site on MRT, you can see that an Underground-Jungle has already grown on the foundations. Baka mamaya mga environmentalist naman ang umalma sa construction ha. :D

:lol: gud 1

actually it's also in that Manila cam website.

yeah, where's the link again. I already lost it.

yeah, where's the link again. I already lost it.

http://www.manilaview.com/

Is it the article Wally posted? since it is from businessworld too.

no, this one is more recent. but it's more about the company rather than the project. i can't scan it...so im quoting an excerpt from businessworld - october 10, 2005. they have a copy online but it seems like you have to be a sign up for fee? before you could access them.

here it is...

Property developer E. Ganzon allots P800 million as capital expenditure
Businessworld 10.10.2005
by Jennee Grace U. Rubrico

Property developer E. Ganzon, Inc., has allocated P800 million for projects that it will be working on for the next year, a company official said.

(mentions their properties like EGI City hotel in Lapu-Lapu city...etc...
Then a Baguio project...an 11-storey condominium in Baguio city.)

Then towards the end...it says...

He said the capital expenditure allocation could increase if the firm finally gets to resume works on the 77-storey Skycity project.

The project, which is going to stand on a 4119-sq.meter property on the corner of ... will be the country's tallest at 335 m from the ground.

Construction is suspended pending the resolution of a dispute involving the developer and Greenhills East homeowners association.

"If we can push thru with that next year, the capex will increase. That is P5 billion over five years. That's going to be P1 billion a year," he said.

etc.../end.

yun lan. so uncertain pa ata. but there is high chances now that court ruling has already been released.

Hopefully they would still have the money to build it.

335 meters.. that's 35 meters more than I bargained for :D they must have loads of cash, not to mention patience and determination to stick with this lot for years ongoing

^^ i remember someone posted the rendering of SkyCity. i'd appreciate if someone can repost the photo for me :D

I wonder if it will have a spire. I dont remember if i saw one in the rendering.

wow this is such an old project I don't know if we can still find the render.

well he's an old man with a wish to leave a legacy, so he has tons of patience:)

let's all keep our fingers crossed na matuloy na ito!

^^ i remember someone posted the rendering of SkyCity. i'd appreciate if someone can repost the photo for me :D

this one, right? i haven't seen any other than this one. it's from www.rmjm.com -- the architect for skycity.

http://www.rmjm.com/web/image.asp?imageid=263

greyX, it looks like it has a spire.

335 meters.. that's 35 meters more than I bargained for :D they must have loads of cash, not to mention patience and determination to stick with this lot for years ongoing

335 x 3.3 = 1105 feet, this tower will have an observation deck to watch the whole of mm, sana matapos na yng legal issue pra walang nang hadlang at maumpisahan na, maybe the owner has this dream , a vision or even an obsession to build this tower

^so owns this chinoy or swedish?

this one, right? i haven't seen any other than this one. it's from www.rmjm.com -- the architect for skycity.

http://www.rmjm.com/web/image.asp?imageid=263

greyX, it looks like it has a spire.

So if you include the spire, it could be taller than 335m.:D Or is 335 including the spire?

OMG!!! did you guys just said "observation deck"? sweet!!! is that the first in the metro???

they just have just build it right away even w/o permission.. i love that building!!! i hope itll be approve right away and finish it very soon..

well usually they include the spire now in official measurements;) I wish we have a different view of it though, I've seen that so much:D

this one, right? i haven't seen any other than this one. it's from www.rmjm.com -- the architect for skycity.

http://www.rmjm.com/web/image.asp?imageid=263

greyX, it looks like it has a spire.

cool. thanks a lot! looks great! :D

^yes, they probably might alter the design since its been awhile

My dad, I think, knows E. Ganzon. Yes, I believe he does. Hmmm...

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?13318370

THEY said that skycity is only 300m, so the rest shoulf be the poll then

"They" get their info from us;)

but you guys said 323m, anyway besides all our insightful commotions, i dont wanna be a sourgrape here but i completely beleive that it wont be that high anymore since of the never ending rallies over there. those investors probably had backed-out 10 yrs ago.

I would agree on you on that, but.... this thing has been on hold for quite a long time. If this Ganzon bloke is trying to push it even after all that commotion, he must have strong backing, or a lot of suitcases full of Benignos.

it will be nice to see a building in the philippines over a 1000 feet. not many countries in the world that got a building over a 1000 feet.

I would agree on you on that, but.... this thing has been on hold for quite a long time. If this Ganzon bloke is trying to push it even after all that commotion, he must have strong backing, or a lot of suitcases full of Benignos.
just hoping, they push this project though. we should all add this to our night prayer because lopez tower is still a farth

how much would such a height of a building cost?

^atleast 55billion pesos

about 1 billion us dollars? how much of that money can they recoup.

^ Are you guys sure about that figure? I would agree that 5 billion Philippine pesos, which is the amount that they seem to be budgeting for, may not be enough since it would amount to almost $100 million USD. And some existing Makati City skyscrapers do cost around that much and they aren't nearly as tall. And if I recall, RCBC Plaza cost around $360 million USD. But a billion dollars is way too much for any Philippine skyscraper. The costs would depend on numerous factors but since labour costs isn't really an issue and I think the construction materials are produced locally anyway, the thing to watch out for is the sheer size and complexity of the building itself (and height alone is not the size determinant). The question really is whether five to seven billion pesos is enough to complete Skycity or will EGI still allocate and raise more funds...

aren't most raw materials imported fr somewhere else?

I'd say remove all existing senators from office and get their pork barrels to build a supertall! Or else use all of our country's putrid politicians' pork barrels to build a nice scraper!

haven't yuchengco allegedly spent Php 7 billion to build RCBC? or was it 12? It's around those figures.

I'd say remove all existing senators from office and get their pork barrels to build a supertall! Or else use all of our country's putrid politicians' pork barrels to build a nice scraper!
I'm all for this. All they build with those damn porkbarrels are waiting sheds and basketball courts. Consuelo de bobo for their constituents. hooray for the elite oligarchs who's fighting for control to keep the masses dumb and uneducated. hhe he hu hu

I'm all for this. All they build with those damn porkbarrels are waiting sheds and basketball courts. Consuelo de bobo for their constituents. hooray for the elite oligarchs who's fighting for control to keep the masses dumb and uneducated. hhe he hu hu

I second the appeal!

aren't most raw materials imported fr somewhere else?

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Philippines exports raw materials themselves. Perhaps some but not all.

haven't yuchengco allegedly spent Php 7 billion to build RCBC? or was it 12? It's around those figures.

It was around 12 billion, which at that time would translate to the USD figure that I provided.

I think steel is imported from somewhere else, like China.

^i thought they get it from japan.

If its Japan, then it would be very expensive....
We do produce our own steel, there are three major corporations that do that (forget their names but a friend of mine works in one). But there is still a bulk of steel that we import.

^wont they just use concrete, it wud be more feasible.

oh yeah forget it, earthquake pala 'ups

Even when you build with concrete, you still need steel for the framework.;)

For columns and beams which means less steel more concrete :okay:

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Philippines exports raw materials themselves. Perhaps some but not all.



It was around 12 billion, which at that time would translate to the USD figure that I provided.

pb com at 850 ft was built at a cost of 60 million usd at that time, so il would assume that a 1000 skyscraper with high class materials to be built in the philiipines including labor would cost more than 100 million usd

Can you use concrete for a building that high? I thought it's only conducive for low rise or mid rise.

pb com at 850 ft was built at a cost of 60 million usd at that time, so il would assume that a 1000 skyscraper with high class materials to be built in the philiipines including labor would cost more than 100 million usd

Also note that RCBC Plaza is just huge and is a more complex design than PBCom. PBCom has a much more simplier design and as a matter of fact, the end result is a simplified version than the original design. You can see the original design on the banner of Makati City page in Emporis (of all places...). The highest floors are a bit fancier than what you see today (similar to Torre Mayor in Mexico City) and I believe, it was intended as a two storey penthouse office.

Skycity's design seems fairly simple so I doubt it would be super expensive anyway, despite its height. Also, the excavation and the strengthening of the surrounding walls (to prevent collapse) have been done already.

Can you use concrete for a building that high? I thought it's only conducive for low rise or mid rise.

Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur is a concrete building as well so if they can do it, I'm sure Skycity can.

Why didnt the penthouse office go through?

And i can understand why PBcom was fairly inexpensive...even its interior (i've been inside to the 20 something floor) isnt impressive.

so whts the most expensive building ever built in the philippines is is the gt tower

Can you use concrete for a building that high? I thought it's only conducive for low rise or mid rise.


^as far as I know, they use a lot of concrete for petronas, so it is possible
but i assumed they decided that because KL is not an earthquake prone, unlike us.

so whts the most expensive building ever built in the philippines is is the gt tower
i would say the bataan nuclear plant;)

^ yeah , that's true specially Metro Manila is due for another earthquake all these buildings, kind of scary.

Reinforced concrete is just as good as steel as long as it's designed properly, most if not all new skyscrapers will have at least a reinforced concrete core after 9/11. This is specially in the case where they used to use a lot more steel, and this is more because it's cheaper for them. Building with Concrete is mor labour intensive that's why you see or of it in Asia than in the US.

In buildings here, both concrete and rebars can be locally procured and are manufactured locally. In certain projects it still might be cheaper to import both (our cement is actually quite expensive). The thing that really brings up costs are finishings which in general are imported as most of the local industry caters to the mass market not to the high end. Curtain glass, elevators , mechanical systems, etc all imported.

RCBC was expensive because as a project it's the largest office complex in the country. It's actually 2 class a buildings with a big podium and auditorium. At 12 billion Php with 180,000 sq.m. on the office alone (the leasable), not counting the others thats Php 66.000 per sq.m if you factor in the gfa and cfa, it'll probably go down to 50,000 per sq.m. which while high for the Philippines is not that high at all compared to worldwide standards.

The biggest determinant for EGI's building will be it's size in cfa. This determines the total factors to be spent and should they choose high end materials it increases on a per sq.m. basis. The height while more getting more difficult as it goes higher only plays a small part. Since the site is big and wide there is no need to build a superstrong pencil thin structure so a more stable wide skyscraper can be built. Structural Cost will be less than 10k/per sq.m. for sure, (I would budget 7k/sq.m) THe other thing that goes up with height is inefficiency due to the elevators unless he double decks them. The rest is a function of space. So Php 5 billion could do it but it would not be grade A like RCBC baka more like Cityland (just joking - can you imagine all of us having to look at a giant cityland everyday from everywhere haha).

The place where it'll get really expensive for him is his hotel as this is on a per room basis not per sq.m. (the per sq.m. cost is irrelevant as the it's fully finished and furnished kasi). As a comparison if he put the four seasons there they budget 400,000$ per room like in NY. hehe food for thought. A giant cityland with a four seasons inside . haha.

^THANKS FOR GREAT ELABORATION ESPECIALLY THE FIRST PARAGRAPH

I guess one critical financing resource that EGI would need to overcome, not now but later in the future, would be securing an anchor tenant for the hotel portion of the project. I still think 5 billion pesos is still too low but 7 billion might be doable. And since the construction timeline is spread from 5 to 7 years and he would allocate a billion a year, it can possibly be done. Securing a hotel tenant would seal the deal and shorten the construction period.

The building is very glassy so he may not need to fill the outer skin of the building with Italian Marble or some fancy material that you see in other high end buildings. Note that Amberland is able to erect wonderful skyscrapers due to simplistic but cool designs despite the lack of "high end materials". And note that the lower commercial floors is practically like a mall/high tech industrial facility and I don't see any of the mall developers balking at the costs of their mega projects, no matter how fancy the building is.

Thanks to bustero's explaination, its beginning to understand why EGI is optomistic on funding the project by itself (assuming the creditors allow him too, which is something EGI is planning on working on once the court situation is resolved 100%) as oppose to the more speculative pre-leasing or pre-selling practice from less stable developers (cough...ASB Realty) that you see in other projects across the metropolis.

OMG, please, not a Baiyoke Tower part two.
It would be better if they just lower the height in order to maintain quality.
An aesthetically pleasing midget would be better than a hideous giant.

What's wrong with Baiyoke Tower? That is an amazing building! And for the love of God, the Philippines desperately needs a super tall for once. Note that Skycity is probably the ONLY project that is taller than PBCOm at the moment that has a chance of being built. First Philippine Holdings (for Lopez Centre) is probably still in dire financial straights to justify building their legacy tower and I have yet to see ANY new project in this particular forum that is taller than the current tallest in the Philippines other than Skycity.

view of Mandaluyong's skyline.... with Lancaster at the left and Lee Gardens at the right...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid191/pcd0dfa8185ee915b0b56f044a1b24ee3/f1c656e2.jpg

you can see Shang Grand Plaza at the left side of the picture...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid191/p8cda8b6c4dd5bcc9b2143ec95621d263/f1c656a4.jpg

SM Mall of Asia.. taken last Aug28 from a balcony of Westin Philippine Plaza
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid191/p838a49293fd6af1abf6b3450a4582557/f1c65655.jpg

^nice pics, pau

Thanks for the explanation bustero.:okay: And why wont Skycity be Grade A?

Can;t they just use Romblon marbles instead of Italian marbles

there's another mystery project on the corner of julia vargas and emerald...half of the former parking lot is now fenced. hope it's a nice project.

Makro Makati (buendia) is opening tomorrow (Oct. 25) already.

there's another mystery project on the corner of julia vargas and emerald...half of the former parking lot is now fenced. hope it's a nice project.

Oooh! Mystery project... Is it the one beside the old CityTrust building or Taipan Place?

Makro Makati (buendia) is opening tomorrow (Oct. 25) already.

Theres a Makro in Makati? where in buendia? in the financial district? dont really like the idea of a Makro in Makati.

there's another mystery project on the corner of julia vargas and emerald...half of the former parking lot is now fenced. hope it's a nice project.

Cool...and its in the center of Ortigas, hope its tall. It will give the skyline a good shape.

along south super highway.. besides Innodata building..

Theres a Makro in Makati? where in buendia? in the financial district? dont really like the idea of a Makro in Makati.

^^ Oh thats good. I thought it was somewhere around the financial district. That makes sense though, as there isnt enough space for a Makro in the financial area anyways.

i hope this will make Cash and Carry think and maybe do some renovations.. lumang luma na kasi ang Cash and Carry..

I hope the SM hypermart at the old SM ACA pushes thru as well.. para madami nang choices for groceries..

^^ Oh thats good. I thought it was somewhere around the financial district. That makes sense though, as there isnt enough space for a Makro in the financial area anyways.

Thanks for the explanation bustero.:okay: And why wont Skycity be Grade A?
Well we're not sure but if he's budgeting Php 5,000,000,000 and lets assume that the projet is 70 stories at 2,857sq.m. per floor for a total of 200,000 sq.m. then the budget is 25,000 per sq.m. This is not low but considering the height plus the fact that he's building a hotel( which I'm assuming is within the budget- though this remains to be verified). The actual finishing cost will be less. He can afford curtain glass surely. Hopefully it will get built sooner so we can behold it's actual beauty.

Aaron not to worry, I'm just joking on the Cityland aesthetics, I'm sure if a 80 year old builds a monument to himself it's going to look great. It may look strange but not cheap:)

makro in makati is at the buendia-slex/osmeña intersection. just across cityland exec tower. ive just seen this last week. medyo hideous kasi medyo di mo kita dahil sa flyover ng osmeña sa buendia.

hmm... near the Cash and Carry, or has it taken over the whole lot of it?

on the opposite side of Cash and Carry.. across buendia..

hmm... near the Cash and Carry, or has it taken over the whole lot of it?

Oooh! Mystery project... Is it the one beside the old CityTrust building or Taipan Place?

it's near taipan place...there's a parking lot in between this and taipan place. I'm not sure though what it is but i happened to have a peek and there seems to be construction guys inside the fenced up lot.

hm...I seem to know that. But i haven't seen it fenced before. What must that be for?

Do we have a thread on robinsons gateway, considering the size of the building with the mall plus the fact that they plan to build a bigger building beside it would warrant. I'm curious as to the specs of the building , specially in services, just in case anyone knows.

You mean Robinsons Cybergate Center A.K.A. Cyberzone? or Robinsons One Gateway Place?

We have individual threads for all of the buildings there. But we don't have a thread for the whole complex.

cybergate, meron ba. Haven't found it , i see the gateway stuff of robinsons though. will look again. ty

Cybergate I
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=191760&highlight=Cybergate

Cybergate II
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=269913&highlight=Cybergate

hey thomasian. where's d updated u/c list? hehe :D

second emotionless

Maybe I'll try (I'll try, as in try lang, dami school works eh) doing it this weekend.

sabi nga ni Yoda: "Do or do not, There is no try" hehe :jk:

okay, I already uploaded the list into my PDA, I'll start updating it tonight but it'll take a few days before I finish it.

pambihira kayo , give the guy a break or do it yourself , aaron magaral ka muna, but after araw ng patay updated na iyan ha :) ty for the links!

pambihira kayo , give the guy a break or do it yourself , aaron magaral ka muna, but after araw ng patay updated na iyan ha :) ty for the links!

naks naman may tagapagtanggol pa ako, thanks po. ;)

yup. after ng araw ng mga patay.

pambihira kayo , give the guy a break or do it yourself , aaron magaral ka muna, but after araw ng patay updated na iyan ha :) ty for the links!

I agree! Aaron has priorities he has to finish. SSC and the work related to SSC is a hobby which is done in your spare time. Let Aaron have some time whenver he can to do an update on the list. We should be thankful he made the old list in the first place.

come to think of it, we should charge for your services aaron:D lol of course you keep the profits;)

oops teka sobra na iyan haha :horse:

ei.. just like to re-post Asraz's post of this Ayala Masterplan (from the Serendra thread) here since it covers the different Ayala project aside from the ones in BGC...

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Here is a News Article about Ayala's Masterplan for Fort Bonifacio Global City
Pleasantly pedestrian
First posted 09:48pm (Mla time) Aug 20, 2005
By Linda Bolido
Inquirer News Service


TO MANY Filipinos, Ayala has become almost synonymous with class—in capital letters.

So why is Jim Ayala, the 43-year-old president of Ayala Land Inc. (ALI), talking about “pedestrianizing” not just the Makati commercial center (MCC) but even the Bonifacio Global City at The Fort in Taguig, Metro Manila?
But then pedestrianizing for ALI is a far cry from slumming. What Ayala (despite his family name he is not related to ALI’s owners) is talking about is simply making it easier and more pleasant for people who live, work, and visit the two sites to go on walkabouts—whether for shopping, dining or entertainment.

The idea is not only some kind of public service. It actually makes good business sense, especially if you are trying to draw people who really do not have a compelling reason to go to the MCC or the Fort, like non-residents or non-employees.

“The nice thing is, since we did the bridgeways, you can go almost from the Makati Medical Center (MMC) all the way to the MRT (Metro Rail Transit) station on Edsa,” points out Miriam Katigbak, executive vice president and head, Commercial Centers Group. She adds the plan for the network of covered overpasses, underpasses and street-level pedestrian pathways has been with the company since 1990.

Big difference

Though people were really able to walk from the MRT station to MMC starting only last year, Ayala says, “It has really made a very big difference. Where before you have a lot of traffic on the ground floors (of malls), you now have a lot more traffic on the upper levels so all of our merchants had to adjust. It also eased our parking. (Parking demand) went down a lot because people now walk, which is good.”

So good that it has made the idea worth replicating elsewhere.

“We want to take that to a whole new level at Fort Bonifacio,” says Ayala, “because it will be a mix of uses (unlike Makati where things are separate-offices, commercial establishments, etc.). We want to make it a more integrated, mix-use, pedestrian-oriented place.”
He says the Fort is geared towards a mix market. “It is a large area, too big to be totally high end.”
He adds, “The problem when you have a setup where you only have business offices sa gabi patay…You want something that is alive all the time, that is very safe and very pedestrian-friendly.” What ALI plans for the Global City is a “retail promenade with landscaping.”

Not just buildings

Both Ayala and Katigbak stress that ALI always makes its plans as comprehensive as possible, anticipating every possible use and service and facilities that may be required. “There is so much more to real estate (development) than just putting up building,” Katigbak points out.

Ayala adds time frame should be at least 20 years since “we’re studying this… to make the project sustainable. We all exist in a broader community. We cannot ignore, in fact, we have an obligation to, use resources sustainably.”

If he sounds like an environmentalist, that is because Ayala is a member of the board of the World Wildlife Fund in the Philippines. He finds no conflict between his pro-environment sentiments and ALI’s goals, saying the company has always been environment conscious.

After the award-winning redevelopment of Greenbelt, ALI is now reviewing plans for Glorietta. “It’s a prime piece of property. We always try to make each (redevelopment) something to look forward to,” says Katigbak. The InterContinental Hotel, a major landmark in that part of Makati is definitely part of the redevelopment.

But ALI is not completely done with Greenbelt. Katigbak says some pretty serious redevelopment is being planned for Greenbelt 1 to make it seem bigger than it is now.

Ayala says, “Positioning-wise, it really provides services to office workers.” Katigbak points out it is closest to the Legazpi Village offices. “Lunch time maraming tumatawid (for) grocery, services, etc.” So she adds they will keep much of the services available but “we may change the side facing the park, and organize the second and third floors a
little bit more.”

The movie theaters may have to go as Greenbelt 3 already has several.

Family affair

Ayala says Glorietta, having everything for everyone, is geared toward the whole family while people go to Greenbelt to eat, celebrate, pamper themselves. The place that makes them feel good inside and out.

Even as ALI is busy with the development of the Global City and redevelopment of Glorietta, it is also getting ready for the 2007 opening of what is dubbed as “a super regional mall in northern Metro Manila” in the North Triangle in Quezon City, a joint venture with ALI owning 50 percent.

Ayala says it is going to be very large, 200,000 square meters, “Glorietta without the ‘afters.’”

Katigbak says this is their first entry to Quezon City and they studied the area very carefully. “We would like to give the market something that they have not seen before—and don’t have. So we actually would like to combine Glorietta and Greenbelt and provide Quezon City that kind of ambience.”

Greatest hits

Ayala says, “It will be a super regional mall addressing a number of different segments so it will be in a way a mixture of Ayala’s ‘greatest hits’… We have to organize the mall in a way that different segments have their areas because we are serving a number of different needs.” The challenge, he says, is to make everything cohesive.

Given the current political upheaval, is ALI being overly optimistic?

Ayala, who worked with a multi-national company and was based overseas for several years, shares the company’s faith in the country and its people. He says businesses can do well “if they do things right, if they understand the market. I don’t think the Philippines is so far gone… that the whole place is corrupt (but) the private sector has to show leadership.” It is a matter of knowing where to focus energy, identifying growth areas despite circumstances.

The company’s faith in the country seems well-placed. Newspapers report that in the second quarter of the year ending in June, ALI’s net profit rose by 4.4 percent—P640 million from P613 million for the same period last year. The increase was attributed primarily to sustained rise in mall rentals and property sales despite political and economic uncertainties.

Ayala attributes the company’s robust “health” to integrity and commitment, as well as innovativeness. “Sigurado ka sa Ayala,” he says.

Aside from Metro Manila, where it also has the Ayala Alabang development project, ALI has commercial and residential development projects in Laguna, Bataan, Cebu, and Bacolod. Very few people probably realize that the Pavilion Mall in Biñan, Laguna, and Metro Point Mall at the corner of Taft Avenue and Edsa where the MRT and Light Rail Transit systems meet, are also Ayala projects.

Sounds great!:okay: They didnt really get into more details and info on what they are gonna do with BGC, but its business...:D So many new projects and its nice to see the will redevelop Glorietta and InterCon.

slunds good, hopefully is for real

come to think of it, we should charge for your services aaron:D lol of course you keep the profits;)
oops teka sobra na iyan haha :horse:


hehe, donation na lang kaya, para voluntary at walang pilitan. :D anyone? :jk:

whoops...gotta close.

Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214800)
Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=214804)
Metro Manila Proposals and U/Cs III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=275552)

We can start this thread by posting a picture of RCBC and GT when they were u/c...

Originally posted by sugarboy
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/avenidalasalle/Skyscrapers/delacostatriangle2000.jpg

Hopefully Aaron can post an updated list in this new thread.

Update: November 2005

+ = u/c
++ = u/c, topped-off

1. ++Malayan Plaza, Ortigas Center - 33 floors
2. NorthPointe Residences - Tower I, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
3. NorthPointe Residences - Tower II, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
4. NorthPointe Residences - Tower III, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
5. NorthPointe Residences - Tower IV, SM North Edsa - 16 floors
6. ++The Columns Ayala Avenue - Tower I, Makati City - 30 floors
7. ++The Columns Ayala Avenue - Tower II, Makati City - 30 floors
8. +The Columns Ayala Avenue - Tower III, Makati City - 30 floors
9. +The Saint Francis Tower I, Ortigas Center - 60 floors (u/c at ground level)
10. +The Saint Francis Tower II, Ortigas Center - 60 floors (u/c at ground level)
11. ++The Shang Grand Tower, Makati City - 46 floors
12. Metropolitan at Metroclub, Makati City - 48 floors
13. +California Garden Square - Anaheim Tower I, Mandaluyong City
14. +California Garden Square - Anaheim Tower II, Mandaluyong City
15. +California Garden Square - Anaheim Tower III, Mandaluyong City
16. +California Garden Square - Anaheim Tower IV, Mandaluyong City
17. +California Garden Square - Burbank Tower I, Mandaluyong City
18. +California Garden Square - Burbank Tower II, Mandaluyong City
19. +California Garden Square - Burbank Tower III, Mandaluyong City
20. +California Garden Square - Carlton Tower I, Mandaluyong City
21. +California Garden Square - Carlton Tower II, Mandaluyong City
22. +California Garden Square - Carlton Tower III, Mandaluyong City
23. +California Garden Square - Dayton Tower I, Mandaluyong City
24. +California Garden Square - Dayton Tower II, Mandaluyong Ciy
25. +California Garden Square - Dayton Tower III, Mandaluyong City
26. +California Garden Square - Fairfax Tower I, Mandaluyong City
27. +California Garden Square - Fairfax Tower II, Mandaluyong City
28. +California Garden Square - Fairfax Tower III, Mandaluyong City
29. +California Garden Square - El Dorado Tower I, Mandaluyong City
30. +California Garden Square - El Dorado Tower II, Mandaluyong City
31. +California Garden Square - El Dorado Tower III, Mandaluyong City
32. ++G.A. Tower I, Mandaluyong City – 30 bilevel floors = 60
33. +G.A. Tower II, Mandaluyong City – 30 bilevel floors = 60
34. Gateway Garden Ridge, Mandaluyong City - 15 bilevel floors = 30
35. Gateway Garden Ridge - Tower II, Mandaluyong City
36. Gateway Garden Ridge - Tower III, Mandaluyong City
37. Gateway Garden Heights - North Tower, Mandaluyong City
38. Gateway Garden Heights - South Tower, Mandaluyong City
39. Gateway Garden Heights - East Tower, Mandaluyong City
40. Gateway Garden Heights - West Tower, Mandaluyong City - 15 bilevel floors = 30
41. +The Residences at Greenbelt - Laguna Tower, Makati City - 48 floors
42. +The Residences at Greenbelt - San Lorenzo Tower, Makati City - 58 floors
43. The Residences at Greenbelt - Tower III, Makati City - 48 floors
44. +One Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
45. +Two Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
46. Three Adriatico Place, Manila - 38 floors
47. +One Gateway Place, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
48. +One Corporate Center, Ortigas Center (excavation)
49. ++Xavier Hills - Tower I, San Juan - 12 bilevel floors = 24
50. ++Xavier Hills - Tower II, San Juan - 14 bilevel floors = 28
51. ++Xavier Hills - Tower III, San Juan - 19 bilevel floors = 38
52. ++Robinsons Cybergate Center, Mandaluyong City - 18 floors
53. +Robinsons Cybergate Center Two, Mandaluyong City - 28 floors
54. +Joya Lofts at Rockwell, North Tower - 46 floors (u/c at ground level)
55. +Joya Lofts at Rockwell, South Tower - 44 floors (u/c at ground level)
56. +SOHO Central, Mandaluyong City - 35 floors (u/c at parking level)
57. +SOMA - Tower I at BGC - 38 floors (u/c at parking level)
58. +SOMA - Tower II at BGC - 38 floors (u/c at parking level)
59. +The Millenia Tower, Ortigas Center - 30 floors (excavation)
60. ++Lancaster Suites Tower I, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
61. Lancaster Suites Tower II, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
62. Lancaster Suites Tower III, Mandaluyong City - 33 floors
63. ++Lee Gardens Tower I, Mandaluyong City
64. ++Lee Gardens Tower II, Mandaluyong City
65. Lee Garden Tower - Binondo, Manila
66. EGI Skycity, EDSA-Ortigas – 77 floors
67. Dansalan Gardens - Tower II, Mandaluyong City (u/c on-hold at 2nd level)
68. Dansalan Gardens - Tower III, Mandaluyong City (u/c on-hold at 2nd level)
69. +Eastwood Parkview - Tower I - 40 floors (basement-level works)
70. +Eastwood Parkview - Tower II - 40 floors (basement-level works)
71. +One Central Park at Eastwood City - 38 floors (basement-level works)
72. Eastwood Park Hotel and Residential Suites - 38 floors (basement-level works)
73. +The Grand Eastwood Palazzo - 38 floors
74. +One Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
75. ++Two Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
76. ++Three Orchard Road at Eastwood City - 38 floors
77. West Parc at Filicity - Alder Tower – 15 floors
78. West Parc at Filicity - Birch Tower – 15 floors
79. West Parc at Filicity - Cedar Tower
80. Vivant Flats at Filicity – 17 floors
81. La Vie Tower at Filicity – 22 floors
82. Pioneer Pointe, Mandaluyong City - 30 floors
83. +The Bellagio at BGC - Tower I - 38 floors
84. The Bellagio at BGC Tower II - 38 floors
85. The Bellagio at BGC Tower III - 38 floors
86. The Icon Residences at BGC - Tower I - 33 floors
87. The Icon Residences at BGC - Tower II - 33 floors
88. +Andrea North Condominiums - Skyline Tower, Quezon City - 33 floors
89. +The Mondrian Residences at FCC
90. +The Capitol Plaza, QC - 33 floors (topped-off, but on-hold)
91. The Capitol Place at BGC (multiple towers)
92. ++The Regalia Parkplace - Tower I, QC - 33 floors
93. ++The Regalia Parkplace - Tower II, QC - 33 floors
94. Serendra at BGC
95. ++Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Agoho Tower, BGC
96. ++Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Bauhinia Tower, BGC
97. ++Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Cambridge Tower, BGC
98. Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Dorchester Tower, BGC
99. +Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Evergreen Tower,
100. +Forbeswood Heights at Forbes Town Center - Florida Tower, BGC
101. +Fairways Tower at BGC - 33 floors (excavation)
102. Hamptons Place at BGC - 20 floors
103. +Kensington Place at BGC - 21 floors (excavation)
104. +The Marquee - Tower I, Makati - 40 floors
105. +The Marquee - Tower II, Makati - 40 floors
106. +The Marquee - Tower III, Makati - 47 floors
107. ++Golden Bay Condominiums - Washington Tower at Asiaworld City
108. ++Golden Bay Condominiums - Cleveland Tower at Asiaworld City
109. +Golden Bay Condominiums - McKinley Tower at Asiaworld City (on-hold at approx 2/3 of its height)
110. +Golden Bay Condominiums - Marina Tower at Asiaworld City (almost topped-off, but on-hold)
111. Burgundy Crowne Tower, Quezon City
112. +St. Luke's Hospital at BGC, Nursing Tower (excavation)
113. +St. Luke's Hospital at BGC, Medical Arts Tower (excavation)
114. +The Eaton Makati - 48 floors (u/c at basement-level)
115. +The A.venue Makati - North Tower
116. +The A.venue Makati - South Tower
117. +Cityland Corinthian Executive Regency, Ortigas Center - 38 floors
118. Cityland Pacific Regency, Vito Cruz, Manila
119. ++Cityland Makati Executive Tower II
120. ++Aeropolis Sucat - Tower I, Parañaque - 12 floors
121. +Aeropolis Sucat - Tower II, Parañaque - 12 floors
122. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower III, Parañaque - 12 floors
123. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower IV, Parañaque - 12 floors
124. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower V, Parañaque - 12 floors
125. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower VI, Parañaque - 12 floors
126. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower VII, Parañaque - 12 floors
127. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower VIII, Parañaque - 12 floors
128. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower IX, Parañaque - 12 floors
129. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower X, Parañaque - 12 floors
130. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower XI, Parañaque - 12 floors
131. Aeropolis Sucat - Tower XII, Parañaque - 12 floors
132. Aeropolis New Manila - Tower I
133. Aeropolis New Manila - Tower II
134. Aeropolis New Manila - Tower III
135. Aeropolis New Manila - Tower IV
136. Aeropolis New Manila - Tower V
137. +Torre Venezia, Quezon City - 33 floors
138. ++AIC Empire, Ortigas Center
139. AIC Crowne Suites, Ortigas Center (on-hold)
140. ++AIC Grande, Ortigas Center
141. Raya Suites by Discovery Suites (replacement for Gilarmi) - 70+ floors
142. +Amvel Mansions, Parañaque (several towers, varied heights)
143. +Net Square at BGC - 18 floors
144. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 1, Parañaque
145. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 2, Parañaque
146. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 3, Parañaque
147. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 4, Parañaque
148. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 5, Parañaque
149. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 6, Parañaque
150. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 7, Parañaque
151. Viera at Brittany Bay – Tower 8, Parañaque
152. 1880 Eastwood Avenue
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Mixed-use residences - Da Vinci Tower, Parañaque – 5 floors
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Mixed-use residences - Rembrandt Tower, Parañaque – 5 floors
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Garden Condo residences - Michelango Tower, Parañaque - 10 floors
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Garden Condo residences - Picasso Tower, Parañaque - 7 floors
153. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Garden Condo residences - Monet Tower, Parañaque - 12 floors
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Renoir Tower, Parañaque
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bellini Tower, Parañaque
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Tower 8, Parañaque
Presidio at Brittany Bay - Tower 9, Parañaque
154. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 1, Parañaque
155. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 2, Parañaque
156. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 3, Parañaque
157. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 4, Parañaque
158. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 5, Parañaque
159. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 6, Parañaque
160. Presidio at Brittany Bay - Bayview Prime Addresses - Tower 7, Parañaque
161. 3388 Quadrilion Plaza Hotel, Ortigas Center (on-hold at 3rd level)
162. Proposed Business Hotel at the current site of the Araneta Residence in Araneta Center
163. The Columbarium, Quezon City - 12 floors
164. Manila Tower at Araneta Center
165. Raphael Condo at Ortigas Center
166. Legaspi Tower, Makati City (on-hold)
167. Jaka Tower, Makati City (on-hold)
168. SM-KS Tower 1, Ortigas Center (on-hold at podium level)
169. SM-KS Tower 2, Ortigas Center (on-hold)
170. SM-KS Tower 3, Ortigas Center (on-hold)
171. One ADB Avenue, Ortigas Center - 41 floors (on-hold)
172. Lopez Center at Rockwell Center - 55 floors (on-hold)
173. Ritz Carlton Hotel at Rockwell Center - 55 floors (on-hold at podium level)
174. SSS Center - Office Tower I, Quezon City - 33 floors
175. SSS Center - OfficeTower ll, Quezon City - 33 floors
176. SSS HQ Tower, Quezon City
177. SSS Center - Condominium Tower I, Quezon City
178. SSS Center - Condominium Tower II, Quezon City
179. SSS Center - Condominium Tower III, Quezon City
180. 2301 Civic Place at Filicity – 12 floors
181. Celadon Residences San Lazaro, Manila (by Ayala Land, under subsidiary Community Innovations Inc.)
182. Avida Towers, Manila (Ayala Land)
183. Robinsons East of Galleria Tower - 45 floors
184. Robinsons McKinley Place Tower - 43 floors
185. The Columns Legazpi Village - Tower I, Makati - 41 floors
186. The Columns Legazpi Village - Tower II, Makati - 41 floors
187. Gateway Call Center Tower at Araneta Center - 26 floors
188. Centerpointe Residences - Tower I, Quezon City - 17 floors
189. Centerpointe Residences - Tower II, Quezon City - (18-26 floors)
190. Centerpointe Residences - Tower III, Quezon City - 27 floors
191. Centerpointe Residences - Tower IV, Quezon City - 27 floors
192. Centerpointe Residences - Tower V, Quezon City - (18-26 floors)
193. Centerpointe Residences - Tower VI, Quezon City - 17 floors
194. SM-ACA Residences
195. One Rockwell - Tower I, Makati - 46 floors
196. One Rockwell - Tower II, Makati - 52 floors
197. One Rockwell - Tower III, Makati
198. Forbeswood Parklane at Forbestown Center, BGC - 42
199. Great Eastern Hotel - West Wing, Quezon City - 25 floors
200. Cityland Rada Regency, Makati - 27
201. Ansons Commercial Building, Ortigas Center - 12 floors
202. Winville Tower at BGC - 43 floors
203. Bay Gardens - Mactan Tower I, Pasay City
204. Bay Gardens - Mactan Tower II, Pasay City
205. Bay Gardens - Mactan Tower III, Pasay City
206. Bay Gardens - Mactan Tower IV, Pasay City
207. Robinsons Cybergate Center - Tower III, Mandaluyong
208. Robinsons Cybergate Center - Tower IV, Mandaluyong
209. Robinsons Cybergate Center - Tower V, Mandaluyong
210. Cyber Two at Eastwood City
211. Cyber Three at Eastwood City
212. Sun Plaza, Mandaluyong (by Fil-Estate Land, on-hold)
213. Shell Maya project, Makati (Fil-Estate Land)
214. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 1
215. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 2
216. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 3
217. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 4
218. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 5
219. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 6
220. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 7
221. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 8
222. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 9
223. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 10
224. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 11
225. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 12
226. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 13
227. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 14
228. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 15
229. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 16
230. Araneta-Megaworld Residences - Tower 17
231. Francesca Tower, Quezon City
231. La Salle - General Education Building - 12 floors

nice pics there.. when was this taken?

EDIT - found on the other thread that it was taken in 1999

We can start this thread by posting a picture of RCBC and GT when they were u/c...

Originally posted by sugarboy
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/avenidalasalle/Skyscrapers/delacostatriangle2000.jpg

Hopefully Aaron can post an updated list in this new thread.

Wow nowadays it's hard to think Buendia corner Ayala WITHOUT RCBC and GT. Also expect something going up in that Shell station in the upcoming years

hey guys, found this one when surfing 15 mins ago, a number of great sounding projects for the metro, its a long list but its a treasure, hehehe

http://www.fala2005.com/projects.htm

Quite a long list but it's worth reading. :okay: