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Francis20
March 21st, 2004, 02:14 PM
Let's start all over again....yeah, from the top. We can do this...i promise to do as much as i can to give u updates guys. Let's stand together to rebuild the forum. I'll manage the U/Cs...:D so help me out buds. Let's be happY! It's better to have the forum hacked than a u/c not to be constructed...hahaha...right? im not sure tho.

So let's keep it rolling....
Renell, what about our list?

Alvin
March 21st, 2004, 02:58 PM
I extend my sympathies to Phillipines forumers...

ryanr
March 21st, 2004, 03:05 PM
Thanks, Alvin...:)

Ok, Francis....The best thing is to rebuild. Why not give us the latest now? Since the original thread got deleted.

renell
March 21st, 2004, 05:02 PM
well i got some more renderings of Laguna Tower and The Residences at Greenbelt. i will post those soon, along with that list.

renell
March 21st, 2004, 07:45 PM
Buildings under construction/proposed without known official height
Last update 16 March 2004

+confirmed to be under construction
=still proposed, no construction reported
Name of Building/Number of Floors/Expected Date of Completion
1.+Laguna Tower 48 floors 2008
2.+The Eaton Makati 48 floors 2006
3.=The Marquee Tower III 47 floors
4.+The Shang Grand Tower 46 floors 2005
5.=Joya Lofts North Tower 46 floors
6.=Joya Lofts South Tower 44 floors
7.+Embassy Pointe 42 floors
8.+Manansala Tower A 41 floors 2005
9.=Eastwood Parkview Tower I 40 floors (Quezon City) 2008
10.=Eastwood Parkview Tower II 40 floors (Quezon City) 2008
11.=The Marquee Tower I 40 floors
12.=The Marquee Tower II 40 floors
13.+Robinsons One Adriatico Place 38 floors 2007
14.+The Grand Eastwood Palazzo 38 floors 2007 (Quezon City)
15.+One Orchard Road Tower 1 38 floors (Quezon City) 2006
16.+One Orchard Road Tower 2 38 floors (Quezon City) 2006
17.+One Orchard Road Tower 3 38 floors (Quezon City) 2006
18.=The Bellagio 38 floors 2008
19.+Greenbelt Parkplace 38 floors 2005
20.+Manansala Tower B 38 floors 2005
21.+Four Seasons Hotel 38 floors
22.=Fifth Avenue Place 37 floors
23.=The Metropolitan 35 floors
24.=Soho Central I 35 floors 2007
25.=Soho Central II 35 floors 2007
26.+The Eastwood Excelsior 34 floors (Quezon City) 2005
27.=Lancaster Suites 33 floors 2004
28.+Oriental Gardens Tower II 31 floors 2005
29.+Greenbelt Radissons 31 floors 2004
30.=Lancaster Suites 30 floors
31.+The Columns Tower 1 30 floors 2006
32.+The Columns Tower 2 30 floors 2007
33.+The Columns Tower 3 30 floors 2008
34.+Fairways Tower 28 floors 2006
35.+Le Mirage de Malate 28 floors 2004
36.+Robinsons One Gateway Residences 28 floors 2007
37.+Penhurst Parkplace Tower I 23 floors 2004
38.+Kensington Place 21 floors

Francis20
March 22nd, 2004, 03:30 AM
there's another u/c along EDSA, near GMA Kamuning. It's called Francesca Tower. It has about more than 20 levels. Not so special tho. plus there are a lot of undocumented u/cs in QC. Let's see if i can make a profile of them plus some updates.

Oh by the way, i passed by along EDSA yesterday and ive seen this not so big streamer on the gateway of Estrella going to Rockwell. It advertises the Joya Towers and Lofts (exact name?)...

I can remember it saying ... "Makati Skyline will change again..." (?) RockweLL with the the two L's being the two towers of Joya Lofts. With Joya, Metropolitan and Eaton place, seems like we'll going to see a continuum of makati skyline in the future!

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 06:20 AM
Guys, we are gonna change the system in this sub-forum. From now on this thread will only be for posting updates, u/c and proposal lists and opinions about the projects on the rise. Any specific proposal or underconstruction project should get its own thread. eg. "The residences thread" or "Manansala Project" etc... Thank you.

absent-minded
March 22nd, 2004, 06:45 AM
ok... that would be much better.

btw, what's that condo in Ortigas called? the Malayan or something?? Malayan Plaza??? I can't find it in Renell's list. It has, I think, already reached the top floor... passed by yesterday.

ryanr
March 22nd, 2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by absent-minded

ok... that would be much better.

btw, what's that condo in Ortigas called? the Malayan or something?? Malayan Plaza??? I can't find it in Renell's list. It has, I think, already reached the top floor... passed by yesterday.

ASB Malayan Plaza. Francis said that it is at is final touches.

absent-minded
March 22nd, 2004, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by GreyX

ASB Malayan Plaza. Francis said that it is at is final touches.

oh... I haven't seen any glass yet. they're going quite fast, aren't they...

renell
March 22nd, 2004, 05:59 PM
oh.. it's not in my list since that list only included buildings w/o the official heights. we know Malayan Plaza is 145m.

ryanr
March 23rd, 2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Francis20

there's another u/c along EDSA, near GMA Kamuning. It's called Francesca Tower. It has about more than 20 levels. Not so special tho. plus there are a lot of undocumented u/cs in QC. Let's see if i can make a profile of them plus some updates.

Oh by the way, i passed by along EDSA yesterday and ive seen this not so big streamer on the gateway of Estrella going to Rockwell. It advertises the Joya Towers and Lofts (exact name?)...

I can remember it saying ... "Makati Skyline will change again..." (?) RockweLL with the the two L's being the two towers of Joya Lofts. With Joya, Metropolitan and Eaton place, seems like we'll going to see a continuum of makati skyline in the future!

Thanks for that update, Francis:) You are the official U/C update Forumer;)

Edmundtanso
March 23rd, 2004, 07:54 PM
found this article about 5th avenue in BGC, maybe someone want to do a tread with a photo of it :) thanks

Stylish living at Fifth Avenue Place


The Philippine STAR 03/20/2004


The idea of a truly world-class residential lifestyle has long been associated with the prestigious name of Fifth Avenue in New York. Combining modern conveniences and unique lifestyles has began a trend in Manhattan that has resulted in the construction of lavish residences stretching as far as Central Park. Fifth Avenue has been the home of such prominent families such as the Vanderbilts, the Astors, the Belmonts, and the Goulds.

The city remains headquarters to much of finance, advertising, media, fashion, publishing and corporate law offices such as the Empire State Building, the New York Public Library, Rockefeller Center, Broadway theaters, Macy’s, Cartier and the finest dining, nightlife and entertainment in the world. Fifth Avenue is a premium address that offers privileged lifestyle not readily available elsewhere. Now you can… if you’re living in Fifth Avenue Place in Fort Bonifacio Global City!

Named after the famous boulevard in upscale Manhattan, the Fifth Avenue Place similarly offers the best of modern urban conveniences. Rising in 5th Avenue corner 21st Drive, its 38-story tower offers affordable lifestyle along millionaires row. Fifth Avenue Place is just right beside the renowned addresses of Essensa and Regent Parkway. Yes, yuppies and middle-income families can now live in style within their means and without even moving to Manhattan.

The Fifth Avenue Place is located right within the vicinity of other prestigious addresses like the Manila Golf Club, the Manila Polo Club, and Forbes Park. Living at Fifth Avenue Place gives you the chance to simply bask in the relaxing atmosphere of its spacious and charming gardens, which is reminiscent of the impressive gardens found in world’s best mansions like that of business magnate Andrew Carnegie at the southeast corner of Fifth Avenue, New York. Its refreshing ambiance is also perfect for that early morning jog or a power workout at the gym before rushing to work. A friendly match with your next-door buddies at one of the badminton courts or a romantic chat amid the moon and the clear night skies would be a great way to end the day. Weekends and late afternoons become perfect treats for the kids on the pool, at the children’s playground and at the game room.

Singles and young couples will find the executive studio units at the Fifth Avenue Place more cozy and spacious than the average studio. Families can choose from one to three bedroom suites depending on their needs. Units have been designed along contemporary lines, giving you a vantage point to your preferred orientation. For bigger families who need more space, the layout is flexible and allows combination of units that fits your lifestyle.

To know more about Fifth Avenue Place, call 636-0888, 395-2396 or text 0922-8380888.

Francis20
March 25th, 2004, 01:02 AM
seems like this one will sell like hotcake again, just like One Gateway Place in Mandaluyong.

Has anyone heard about Pioneer Pointe (Filinvest) of Mandaluyong? I think this project is somewhat similar to GA Tower whose target market are the middle-income buyers.

Now for another update...I forgot the name of the tower of AIC near Cityland Shaw...I think the 20th something level has been reached before and has been stopped for quite sometime. Last year, ive seen some cosntructions going on, but seems like this is not a vertical construction anymore. They are just trying to finish up what has been already done. So from the 40 or 50 something storey, it has been reduced to more than half of it. I guess this one will be an office tower, what d u think? The lower facade looks like NY Stock Exchange bldg. with those columns.

the other AIC tower has officially halted construction...no indication of any activity going on.

absent-minded
March 25th, 2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by renell

oh.. it's not in my list since that list only included buildings w/o the official heights. we know Malayan Plaza is 145m.

oh... I see...

renell
March 25th, 2004, 02:15 PM
so that AIC tower won't be that tall...? only 20 storeys...

Francis20
March 26th, 2004, 01:08 AM
yes Renell, im afraid that's true.
that'll be a bad news for all.
Hope ASB Twins will soon resume construction. i heard it
will be late this year (December). along with Legaspi
Place of Makati. Then again, we might see a construction
to start for SM-KS residential tower.
now time for some more updates...from several sources
i've scoured last night, if u find it interesting at all...

1. Cityland's Corithian Exec tower in Ortigas is now at
preselling stage. I dunno if construction is going on yet.
This is 39 storey. A photo of this has been posted before
...either by Thomasian or Lance.

2. After Essensa Twins, Century Properties and Meridien
has plans of building another residential tower. I dunno
if this would make another Fort Boni landmark. There's
not even a name for this one yet. What im sure about is that ...it's penthouse unit is at the 30th floor. (A subtler way of asking how many floor will it have is asking where the penthouse unit will be :D) So it will have at least 30
storey. maybe 31 or 32. Construction will start when 30
% of the units are sold out. Will took about 3 years to
construct.

3. After One Adriatico Place (38 storey), Robinsons Hi-
Rise Residential Div is set to launch the second one. Of
course it will be called Two Adriatico Place. I reckon this
will be a twin of the other. Thus the names One and Two.
Hehe...

4. Ayala Lands Inc. will increase its budget for this year
...a little higher than last year's. I guess this would mean
more constructions...including that of Serendra (which
was launched yesterday, i dunno where) and North
Something regional mall at North MRT Station (tied up
with MRT).

5. Torre de EDSA will be launched within two months from now.

P.S. Renell, I guess u missed Greenbelt Radissons on
your list. It's now at the finishing stage. Were gonna have a long list is all u/cs and proposals will be accounted :D
Seems like that prediction of all time hi demand of residential units is indeed true.


more updates next time.

Francis20
March 26th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Article i found on the net...

MANILA, PHILIPPINES | Thursday, March 11, 2004

Ayala Land to develop five hectares in Bonifacio Global City

Ayala Land Inc. (ALI) will start this year a five-hectare mixed-use property project within the Bonifacio Global City in southern Metro Manila.

"In April, we will start a project similar to what we did with the McKinley Business District. It will be a lots-only development with smaller lot sizes. It will be mixed-use and will be located near the schools," ALI president Francisco H. Licuanan III said in an interview.

He said this new development would compliment ALI's other projects in the Bonifacio area, including the 9.8-hectare Market! Market! shopping mall, the 12-hectare Serendra medium-rise residential area that was launched yesterday, and the two-hectare mixed-use McKinley Business District, formerly known as Fort Bonifacio's Embassy Row.

He added that lots at the McKinley Business District were already sold out. The district, located at the southern part of Bonifacio, is envisioned as an international business park due to its proximity to NAIA Terminal 3 and the Makati Central Business District.

"Retail and the middle-income market has always been a driver of growth, but we're seeing that the high-end residential market is doing just as well. Most of the money is in the high-end market but you have to find a product that is unique so the clients will place their money in the project," Mr. Licuanan said.

And Serendra is expected to cater to demand from the high- and middle-income markets, he added.

In 2002 ALI profits rose by eight percent to PhP2.71 billion because of imporved land sales. Consolidated revenues reached PhP14.62 billion, up by 20% from 2001. Residential units sales grew by 20% to PhP1.88 billion. -- Leilani M. Gallardo

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 04:35 PM
All nice news...

Any news of One ADB Tower??? Supposed to be quite tall (40+)...havent heard what happened to it. But it is afterall, and office tower though....all we are getting so far are residentials. Look at this forum, just lined with residentials.:D

renell
March 26th, 2004, 06:04 PM
i still haven't heard any new office proposals. but the residential boom looks like it's stopped now, the proposing, and the construction has been fast. i think we might see it, or not, in late 2004-early 2005.

ryanr
March 26th, 2004, 06:44 PM
I agree, residential boom is starting to slow down. While the office boom will only start after the May elections. Right now, offices are filling up at a steady rate in RCBC, GT, etc.. Vacancy is going down, so its all up to the May elections now; for an office boom or not?

Edmundtanso
March 26th, 2004, 08:53 PM
residential boom slowing down? i hope not :mad: i want to see more skyscrapers!

maybe developers are waiting for the outcome on the election. i really hope fpj wont win because a lot of business people would lose confidence to the country! sorry if anyone here like fpj ;)

ryanr
March 27th, 2004, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Edmundtanso

residential boom slowing down? i hope not :mad: i want to see more skyscrapers!

maybe developers are waiting for the outcome on the election. i really hope fpj wont win because a lot of business people would lose confidence to the country! sorry if anyone here like fpj ;)

Well, its a cycle. Right now the residential market is at its peak. And is starting to slow down, but that doesnt mean more proposals and u/c's will come, esp. after the elections. But the best part is, if the elections go well, the boom coming right after residential is office!!;)

Edmundtanso
April 3rd, 2004, 01:25 AM
yes i agree GreyX, the upcomming election will have a lot of effect on the economy. a lot of investors are waiting till aftre the election, i really hop we get the right president!

Francis20
April 3rd, 2004, 02:16 AM
I quoted Renell's previous post..and added up something. pls feel free again to comment on this.

Buildings under construction/proposed without known official height

+confirmed to be under construction
=still proposed, no construction reported

Name of Building/Number of Floors/Expected Date of Completion

1.+Laguna Tower 48 floors - construction at ground level
2.=The Marquee Tower III 47 floors
3.+The Shang Grand Tower 46 floors 2005 - contruction at the 11/12th levels
4.+Embassy Pointe/ Pearl of the Orient Tower 42 floors - topped off
5.+Eastwood Parkview Tower I 40 floors (Quezon City) 2008 - i dunno if these are really u/cs now
6.+Eastwood Parkview Tower II 40 floors (Quezon City) 2008
7.=The Marquee Tower I 40 floors
8.=The Marquee Tower II 40 floors
9.=Lee Gardens 40 floors
10.+Robinsons One Adriatico Place 38 floors 2007 - topped off, Two Adriatico soon to be launched
11.The Bellagio 38 floors 2008
12.+Greenbelt Parkplace 38 floors - The lower tower has been topped off, the higher one still going up. Second crane now down.
13.+Manansala Tower 38 floors to be finished 2005
- doing pretty fast

14.+Four Seasons Hotel 38 floors - topped off
15.=Fifth Avenue Place 37 floors
16.=The Eastwood Excelsior 34 floors (Quezon City)
17.=Regent Parkway 34 floors - this has been turned over already,make it a +, plus maybe remove it on the list. :D
18.+Galleria Regency 33 floors 2003
-
already turned over

19.=Lancaster Suites 33 floors 2004
20.=Espana Towers 32 floors
21.+Oriental Gardens Tower I 31 floors 2004 - already topped off
22.+Oriental Gardens Tower II 31 floors 2004
- construction at more than half way the other tower

23.+Greenbelt Radissons 31 floors 2003 - topped off
24.=Lancaster Suites 30 floors
25.+The Columns Tower 1 30 floors - nearing the 20th level.
26.+The Columns Tower 2 30 floors - might be at the 7th level now
27.+The Columns Tower 3 30 floors - i can't see any
28.=Renaissance 5000 30 floors
29.=Fairways Tower 28 floors - should be +, digging started since Feb 9
30.+Le Mirage de Malate 28 floors 2004 - let's ask the manileños
31.=Robinsons One Gateway Residences 28 floors 2007 - i can only see the mall podium
32.=Penhurst Parkplace Tower I 22 floors - should be +, also topped off. painting of exterior underway
33.+Bonifacio Ridge I 20 floors - topped off also, to be turned over soon
34.+Bonifacio Ridge II 20 floors - same
Let me add something
35. = Two adriatico Place - 38 floors
36. =Corinthian Executive Regency - 39, recently launched
37. +Cityland Vito Cruz 2- 34 floors -recently topped off
38. +Cityland Makati Exec Tower 1 - 32 floors, recently topped off
39. =Cityland Makati Exec Tower 2 - recently launched
40. = Forbes Town (low rise at maybe 20 each for the 5 or so towers)
41. + GA Tower (30 floors) - nearing the ground level
42. + Kensington Place (23F, not sure) - about the 10th level now
43. = Torre de EDSA (about 30F) - to be built somewhere along EDSA between Guadalupe and Ayala. That's quite a long way tho.
44. = Pioneer Pointe (27F?) - mandaluyong
45. + One Legazpi Park - 45 floors, 2005 - topped off
46. = Joya Towers and Lofts
47. = The Metropolitan - 45 floors
48. = Unnamed tower to rise at Fort Boni, 30 floors by Century Properties
49. + California Garden Square - a cluster of medium rise to hi-rise residential towers, lot of towers already topped off.
50. + Eaton Makati - 48+ storey- construction now at the ground level.

Edmundtanso
April 3rd, 2004, 03:07 AM
cool listing! anyone have more info about lee gardens. from the rendering i've seen it looks cool!

renell
April 3rd, 2004, 04:37 AM
cool listing indeed. when i go back to belgium ill try and sort it out.. it's still a puzzle of information to me..

ryanr
April 3rd, 2004, 05:17 AM
Great updates...:okay:

Yeah...so far our economy is really just on standby waiting for the elections to happen. It will determine our future for the next 6 or more years.

Francis20
April 3rd, 2004, 02:47 PM
so it depends who the next prez will be on whether OLP2 will be constructed or now? :D im sure that's indeed true. so expect lesser investments specially in the BPOs if FPJ wins the race. BPO investors perceive the present govt as investor-friendly.

ryanr
April 3rd, 2004, 03:33 PM
yeah i agree...the current admin should win!:D

what's OLP2?

Francis20
April 3rd, 2004, 04:00 PM
im sorry, it should be TLP. haha... Two Legaspi Park.
the good news is One Adriatico will have Two Adriatico soon to be launched!

ryanr
April 3rd, 2004, 05:04 PM
im sorry, it should be TLP. haha... Two Legaspi Park.
the good news is One Adriatico will have Two Adriatico soon to be launched!

any renderings?

yeah TLP might start after the elections. Is it currently pre-selling? OLP is almost done.

renell
April 3rd, 2004, 05:08 PM
i read one legaspi just topped off. i'll check tomorrow, when there's sun.

what will Two Adriatico Place look?

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 02:24 AM
maybe it will look like One Adriatico. :D LOL
there's no preselling for Two Legaspi yet. i dun think they are taking the risk right now. there are a lot of proposed residentials all over the metro. supply is high, so they might opt to build condos for the middle income market.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 02:56 AM
wasnt one adriatico like an X shaped building? where was that rendering?

renell
April 4th, 2004, 03:07 AM
btw, i saw something near the World Plaza in Buendia, looked like it was Four Seasons.. the crane is still there, and it looks like it's as tall as the World Plaza to the roof, not the spire..

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 03:12 AM
meaning you are in the Philippines Rennie boy?
4 seasons is definitely taller The world Center. i think its even taller than the spire.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 03:16 AM
meaning you are in the Philippines Rennie boy?
4 seasons is definitely taller The world Center. i think its even taller than the spire.

yep i am. im a very quick person, evading everythin:P

actually i just forgot to warn you guys, i thought ryan would tell u ppl..

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 03:19 AM
HAHA...cool! maybe u wanna drop by at Citibank rooftop. just make it sure im NOT there to tour you around. im afraid of strangers u know! hahaahha....

renell
April 4th, 2004, 03:22 AM
actually i was planning on going to the Nestle building rooftop... haha

anything interesting in manila or makati i shold be going to? u/c sites?

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 03:28 AM
ok, u go then give us some photos. its quite hazy today tho. then wave ur hand so i could see you from up there at Citibank.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 03:39 AM
ok, u go then give us some photos. its quite hazy today tho. then wave ur hand so i could see you from up there at Citibank.

yep, very hazy today... dont worry ill be taking pics:)

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 03:48 AM
come afternoon, it would be be the best time to take photos of Ortigas and Fort Boni. minutes after and before sundown, it would be best to take photos of makati CBD. imo. my idea.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 03:58 AM
hmm.. ok thanks for the tip. maybe this week i can do that. if not next week.. i got 12 days

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 04:10 AM
plus don't forget the night shots. be sure to use the best cam, and take shots on a friday night right after sundown, when makati towers are still busily lit up...when Rockwell CBD is burning like !@#$$ and when Pacific Plaza Towers are cool in blue & purple.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 04:14 AM
well i have a 3.2mb camera.. i think that's good enough right?

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 04:55 AM
yes, that's good enough...better if u have night modes on it. or better if its a digi-SLR, so u could set shutter speed, maybe to 2 seconds. the outcome would be brighter than what a human eye could see. hehe...that's what i think.

ryanr
April 4th, 2004, 10:28 AM
Use your dad's new camera for night shots, renell...
How does One Adriatico look like?

Both of you give us observation updates! Tell us how the u/cs look like and how they are going.

renell
April 4th, 2004, 10:59 AM
i doubt he'll let me use it, im already borrowing his Canon... :D

btw, i just had lunch in Robinsons Ermita, and i saw no One Adriatico place. but there was something u/c beside PGH i think...

Francis20
April 4th, 2004, 02:13 PM
read this one...this is the u/c across RCBC that kept me wondering what. now i figured out...

the E-Services Bldg by Ayala Land.
too bad it will only be a 5-storey bldg

The Philippines’ quest to be Asia’s hub for information technology-enabled services has taken a huge stride with the recent signing of a memorandum of agreement between Ayala Land, Inc. (ALI) and PeopleSupport (Philippines), Inc. for the construction of an e-services office building - the country’s first structure fully dedicated to call center and business process outsourcing operations - in the Makati Central Business District.

Under the agreement, ALI will construct a five-storey building - to be named PeopleSupport Center - at the corner of Amorsolo Street and Ayala Avenue in Makati City in just over a year. US-based PeopleSupport, on the other hand, will lease over 15,000 square-meters of office space in the building for 10 years. PeopleSupport Center will accommodate over 3,000 IT and call center professionals.

“This is a partnership of faith. Faith in ALI’s expertise in constructing state-of-the-art office buildings and capability to deliver on time, as well as faith in the reputation of PeopleSupport, now the Philippines’ most profitable and second largest call center enterprise,” says Francisco H. Licuanan III, ALI president. “Most significantly, the partnership is a show of faith in the resiliency of the Philippine economy.”

The Philippines is well placed to fill the vacuum being created by India in the Asian call center industry. After having captured a significant share of global outsourcing, India is now gradually moving away from mass-based support services and towards higher end services such as systems integration and software development. The Department of Trade and Industry under the Macapagal-Arroyo government has taken advantage of this development by creating favorable policies geared towards attracting overseas IT investment. The E-Commerce Act has also gone a long way to promoting the Philippines as an IT center in Asia. This augurs well for the labor sector, which is replete with high skilled and proficient IT and IT-driven professionals.

“We are very pleased to have involved Ayala Land in PeopleSupport’s expansion program in the Philippines,” Bong Borja, PeopleSupport (Philippines) president, says. “PeopleSupport is excited to be part of the country’s efforts to create more jobs and pour investments in the local IT-enabled services industry which has proven to be globally competitive.”

Targeted to break ground on March 2004, the e-services office building is a build-to-suit IT facility with a long-term lease. It will have a combination of over 15,800 sq. m. of office space and nearly 1,300 sq. m. of retail space at the ground floor. Leechiu & Associates served as property consultant for this agreement.

ryanr
April 4th, 2004, 03:32 PM
Aw, man!! That sucks! Such prime lot, in a great location! I wished the Gateway project pushed through, not this!:rant:

Has got to be one of the worst ALI projects, ever! Sure, its technologically advanced but still why waste this lot?!?

renell
April 4th, 2004, 05:59 PM
well it's a big one, therefore there's not much need for a scraper, from ALI's point of view.. but it sucks indeed..


anyways, some updates. that Legaspi Place has a crane, but no construction happening. 1322 DOES still have a crane on top, and Embassy Pointe is still u/c in the helipad.. Oriental Gardens number 2 is fast finishing. Greenbelt Radissons looks like it's done, but it's extremely ugly, it's smaller than Somerset Millenium

Francis20
April 5th, 2004, 12:48 AM
thanks for those updates Renell. you sure 1322 does still have a crane on it? its supposed to be turned over this June. the crane shouldnt be there nymore.
u must be talking about that thingy thats used as pulley or something for window washers or facade painters.

This E-Services bldg really sucks. it should be a tall skyscraper instead. i was dismayed when i visited the site yesterday and found this out. then i looked up at the net what this project is. but as what is already said...it's a build to suit bldg...so there. they got sure investments, maybe that's why. i think people support used to stay at Philamlife, then to Summit bldg...then to the E-Services bldg. and for 10 years? we have no chances of it being demolished soon and replaced by a taller one.
but who knows...itd just be a podium for something. but the foundation is too shallow for a tower. it's only about 7 or 8 feet. but there's some excavations or diggings happening at the section nearest the Burgundy side...hopefully, part of it would be a skyscraper.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 06:26 AM
Renell, Francis, Weirdo, Lance and Mhe-ann go there and protest!! hehehe:D

but i still prefer a skyscraper in the E-Services site than one near Burgandy (connected bare walls!). They should have stayed in Summit and Philam Life!!

Thanks for the update renell.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 06:27 AM
So does that mean no BPI building? :rant:

renell
April 5th, 2004, 10:49 AM
well there is some crane-like thing on top of 1322.. but you could be right.

other updates, i'll just post all here. been recently to makati

i went recently to the site of The Legaspi Place. i took a pic of the rendering on the site, i might be able to post it, providing i have enough time and patience in this modem:D

One Legaspi looks like the cladding is starting.. Greenbelt Parkplace looks like it's topped out. Four Seasons is quite tall, but no facading. The Columns has been going asss-slow compared to others. Residences@Greenebelt still on the ground floor, the podium still not done yet.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Thanks for that. Columns looks "heavier/beefier" than the other buildings, maybe thats why it is slower. I'm expecting Residences to be on the 3rd or 4th floor by the time i get there. Where is The Legaspi Place, again?

renell
April 5th, 2004, 12:44 PM
it's near One Legaspi, only a couple of blocks away. my cousin who works very near it said nothings been going on there for a long time.

i dunno about why the Columns is slow..

Francis20
April 5th, 2004, 01:07 PM
Legaspi Place is the other proj of ASB that has been halted due to bankruptcy. but they're planning to resume construction late this year. and tell me renell, isn't the rendering nice? i bet u will agree with me that it is. and it's tall. i cudn't count the floors, but im guessing its nearly 50.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 01:09 PM
50 floors? wow, pretty tall! Its residential right? Cant wait to see the renderings, and i hope it does start this year.

Francis20
April 5th, 2004, 01:14 PM
it's office and residential GreyX.
the contractor is EEI, the one who built RCBC. after RCBC took over the construction of ASB, it might do it again on this proj. but if 50-storey AsB was reduced to 38 or so, let's hope this one wouldn't be.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Ok, cool! We are starting to see a lot of mix-use buildings too..

Francis20
April 5th, 2004, 01:36 PM
im not really sure, but that's what i think.

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Yeah, i'm hoping the height for this one wont be reduced. Good news that RCBC took over and the developer is the one that built the RCBC building, then it is sure to be quite nice!;)

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Any news on this building? I only found this right now.
Kingswood Makati - Pasong Tamo cor. Vito Cruz
http://www.philonline.com.ph/~philprop/images/kingswood/front.jpg

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 02:52 PM
How about this?
Alpha Grandview
-33 floors
-5 star hotel
-located in Ermita
http://www.philonline.com.ph/~philprop/images/alphagrandview/building.jpg
http://www.philonline.com.ph/~philprop/images/alphagrandview/alphapic.jpg

Any news on this? Is it u/c?

renell
April 5th, 2004, 02:56 PM
ryan, both are done! i would reckon ud know the first one. wasnt queetz talking about that one a long time ago? anyways, the second one is done, and it looks uglier in real life. i don't think it's colored at all.. it's grey, and really ugly. and did i mention it's taller than Landbank? so tall and ugly..

carlo pontevedra
April 5th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Hi Francis,

Can you tell me where the Four Seasons (Bldg., Tower?) is located? And is it a hotel?

Thank you for your prompt reply.

Regards,


Carlo Pontevedra :applause: :applause:

ryanr
April 5th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Oops, my bad! I didnt know both were done:D too bad they are uglier in real life.

Carlo, in my understanding, Four Seasons is not a hotel. More likely a Luxury Serviced Apartment.

renell
April 5th, 2004, 03:19 PM
im not really sure, but that's what i think.

yep. Legaspi Place is indeed mixed-use.

'Multi-Storey Office Residential Condominium'

carlo pontevedra
April 5th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Francis, is it possible to state where each building is located? Thanks and more power!

renell
April 5th, 2004, 06:07 PM
Francis, is it possible to state where each building is located? Thanks and more power!

you mean you want a street address for each and every single building?

Francis20
April 5th, 2004, 11:50 PM
it's along Tordesillas and Toledo Streets of makati. it's facing that park in front of Regency at Salcedo. ill post the photo again next time.

renell
April 6th, 2004, 02:17 PM
Rockwell Update-

i just went to Powerplant today, and i saw a model of the planned Rockwell masterplan. Lopez Centre is there, but it has the weird thing design. Manansala is as tall, or taller than Rizal Tower, and Joya Lofts is taller than both. there's 3 more skyscrapers planned, one quite tall, and the other two not so.. they lok like offices..

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Cool! I hope they use the second design of Lopez (the SOM one). Where abouts in Rockwell are the other skyscrapers gonna be located? Rockwell is gonna be dense soon:okay: Thanks.

renell
April 6th, 2004, 03:05 PM
well it's to the left of Phinma and Manansala. there's one just across Manansala that looks like it's a Siamese-twin, and it's quite damn tall

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 03:16 PM
To the left...so meaning where the basketball, tennis courts, etc are? The entrance area of Rockwell if you're coming from EDSA?

sweet, the more talls the better:guns1:

renell
April 6th, 2004, 03:19 PM
yeah,that's it.

if anyone wants to see it, it's in the ground level of the Powerplant, near the fountain. it's near an end, the other end being the place with the bouncy thing

renell
April 6th, 2004, 03:20 PM
this might not be anything but, in the lot beside The World Centre, i saw some dudes putting up some poles, which i thought was fencing. is this the spot of the Westmont Bank building? queetz was just talking to me to keep an eye for that building, but i never knew where the exact location was:D

ryanr
April 6th, 2004, 03:28 PM
Yeah queetz said something about a office tower being built somewhere there. maybe Westmont.

hehe, i know the feeling. Even just a little activity in empty lots makes you start jumping into conclusions about something getting built there:D

Edmundtanso
April 6th, 2004, 07:49 PM
renell
it's funny! you are like a spy there =) i would another spy when i visit end of the month =)

Francis20
April 7th, 2004, 03:35 AM
LOL...Renell...the Spy.
now here comes Edmund, his kickback.
I'll do my own spying. hehe :D

ryanr
April 7th, 2004, 02:26 PM
haha...any more updates, renell, francis?:D

renell
April 7th, 2004, 05:54 PM
haha...any more updates, renell, francis?:D

well the Balintawak portion of NLEX is a huge construction site.. it's all bumpy and slow now, but the future looks good

Edmundtanso
April 7th, 2004, 08:20 PM
yeah i am the next one to be sent to spy! =) ofcourse we always have francis =)

ryanr
April 8th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Then its my turn. i'll be "spying" all through June, July and early August!!:D

Yep, NLEX maybe a mess now, but in a few months time it will be a great, functional highway.

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 06:19 PM
=) that's cool greyX, will you in manila for vacation or work? wish i could stay there for that long...

what are they doing in NLEX?

renell
April 8th, 2004, 07:16 PM
well it's a big construction site, they're building new toll exits, repaving the roads, things like that.



btw, there's something going up in Filinvest, Vivere Flats. it's just at the base. it's around 20 storeys..

Edmundtanso
April 8th, 2004, 07:20 PM
thanks renell. that's good they are redoing NLEX, wish they extend the existing highway though to boosts that region.

yeah i saw the rendering of vivere flats, nothing special =(

renell were you able to visit BGC office?

Edmundtanso
April 9th, 2004, 01:41 AM
Asia Tower & Union Church, Makati City (anyone know's about this?)
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/3350890-L.jpg

Lee Garden, Mandaluyong (u/c?)
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/3350894-M.jpg

Sommerset
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/3350895-L.jpg

unknown
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/2660537-L.jpg

Galleria Regency, Ortigas
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/3350893-L.jpg

renell
April 9th, 2004, 11:04 AM
ive seen all of those before. the first one is actually One Legaspis first renderings, but the real thing is very different. the unknown one, ive seen before, but i dont exactly know which. so nothing new

thomasian
April 9th, 2004, 06:05 PM
The first one is the first design of Ayala's One Legazpi Park together with two legazpi.

Lee Gardens is already topped off.
I think they're already in the cladding works.

Edmundtanso
April 9th, 2004, 08:15 PM
cool! i like Lee Garden design!

ryanr
April 10th, 2004, 07:03 AM
Cool, Lee Garden is nice! Yeah, Asia tower was the early design of One and Two Legapi Park.

That unknown builing is in Alabang. Forgot its name though.

Nice, how does vivere flats look like renell?

renell
April 11th, 2004, 05:06 PM
it's not that tall, and it's boxy. it's going to be built beside Aspen Tower

Edmundtanso
April 11th, 2004, 06:33 PM
renell which building would be built besides aspen tower? =)

renell
April 12th, 2004, 03:53 AM
vivere flats. it's near, but not side by side. Filinvest is like a mix between BGC and Rockwell.

ryanr
April 12th, 2004, 01:45 PM
=) that's cool greyX, will you in manila for vacation or work? wish i could stay there for that long...

what are they doing in NLEX?

I will be there for vacation...:) I always stay that long during the summer.

Edmundtanso
April 12th, 2004, 07:09 PM
renell
okay. are there a lot of developments in Filinvest? that's a also a vert well plan community!

Edmundtanso
April 12th, 2004, 07:11 PM
GeyX
cool! you must love your job for you being able to take a long vacaton =)

Francis20
April 13th, 2004, 12:12 AM
job? he's too young to have one.
or is that job of another kind?
it would be cool to have a compilation photo of all MM u/cs...what do you think guys?

Edmundtanso
April 13th, 2004, 12:51 AM
how old are you GreyX btw? =)

francis, yeah it would be nice to have compilation of MM u/c! we have some started already, we just have to keep on updating and aading new ones!

Francis20
April 13th, 2004, 02:35 AM
he's 16 i guess. my age when i was 2nd year college. and my age when my mom gave birth to my twin sisters. my age when i was dethroned of being the 'bunso' = (

Edmundtanso
April 13th, 2004, 04:57 AM
wow....they are so young but they see things very maturely! =)

Francis20
April 13th, 2004, 06:14 AM
yes you are right! most of them are teeners~!
i feel like im too old hanging around with these guys. so dun leave me alone here Edmund. how old are you btw? Mhe-Ann is also 22, Mike is also 20+. sometimes, its the 20+s that do think like we're teeners. haha...i missed being young...think like there's no tomorrow.

Edmundtanso
April 13th, 2004, 07:32 AM
=) i am 24

ryanr
April 13th, 2004, 12:35 PM
GeyX
cool! you must love your job for you being able to take a long vacaton =)

:lol: Yeah my job is being a student. LOL, im just a 16 year old:D

Absent Minded is 16, renell is 13. All three of us are too old for our age, hehehe. We know a lot, and are quite mature.

ryanr
April 13th, 2004, 12:36 PM
I forget but queetz is 28/29...

Edmundtanso
April 13th, 2004, 08:25 PM
yeah sheez i thought you guys were on your 20's or so, you guys know a lot! =) that's good!

Francis20
April 13th, 2004, 11:54 PM
they think like they're on their mid 40s. hehehe....now guess what...i got good news for you guys. after several attempts to top out PB Com as RP's tallest - Eaton which obviously didnt make it, Skycity, etc....this time, another ambitous project is on the blueprint. i forgot the name, but this info came from my informant of Eaton Place. This tower would be 70+ storey high, to rise along the busy Ayala ave...near Manila Penn. I haven't figured out yet where...maybe beside Tuscany or somewhere on the Ayala Triangle. construction will commence in 1 or 2 years from now. let's see. will give you more info next time. was just too sleepy last night to ask some more info.

Edmundtanso
April 14th, 2004, 02:08 AM
yeah francis they sound like very mature guys! =)

great news! i wonder who is the developer? hope it's a very nice design. any infor on the architect francis? =) thanks

Francis20
April 14th, 2004, 03:57 AM
id do inquire about that first thing tonight!
one thing is sure, it's 70 + storey.
but note this...contractor is a cousin of Eaton's contractor...so imagine 64 storey being reduced to 48, so we might see a 70+ reduced to 50 or something to that effect.

ryanr
April 14th, 2004, 08:49 AM
sweet. 70 storey building along Ayala ave would be awesome. I wonder where though. near Manila Pen, cant imagine where. Yes, please get us more info! much more, maybe even renderings. Commence in one or two years from now, pretty soon! Great. Is it office, mix-use or residential? thanks.

hehehe, yeah we do sound a lot older:D

renell
April 14th, 2004, 09:20 AM
probably between Manila Peninsula and Pacific Plaza. the place around there with blank lots.

sounds good

ryanr
April 14th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Sounds great. That would make a very interesting skyline. It would be quite "alone" in that area as most of the talls are further down the avenue.

renell
April 14th, 2004, 12:31 PM
it would be interesting if this 'future tallest' were built, since on the other side of Makati's CBD is another 'future tallest', Lopez Centre

renell
April 14th, 2004, 06:26 PM
i just checked that area around Manila Peninsula. there's no free lots in the Apartment Ridge, so this could be Ayala Tower 2 or 3..

Edmundtanso
April 14th, 2004, 10:47 PM
hope it wont be reduced floor wise francis! =)

now i am all excited! yeah a 70+ floor building would surely changed the cityscape of makati!

good news!

bagel
April 14th, 2004, 11:17 PM
I believe there are also a few more parking lots leftover in the area north of Ayala Ave, no?

Maybe if not in Ayala Triangle, they will build in those parking lots?

Francis20
April 14th, 2004, 11:54 PM
definitely it's not in Ayala Triangle. i have the name of the proj in my phone but im to lazy to wade along the messages right now. sounds like Gilarmi? it has nothing to do with the Ayalas so this is not at Ayala Triangle. im still trying to figure out where it would be built. but hey, this thing is definite - its a residential building! so maybe beside the cluster of Pacific Tower....Tuscany and Ritz Towers.

Francis20
April 14th, 2004, 11:57 PM
but i checked Gilarmi, and it's already an existing serviced apartment. so it's probably a cousin of this one.

Edmundtanso
April 15th, 2004, 01:49 AM
hmm...can't wait to get more info and renderings! thanks in advance francis! =)

renell
April 15th, 2004, 05:38 AM
but i checked Gilarmi, and it's already an existing serviced apartment. so it's probably a cousin of this one.

hmm.. well there is one small space near Manila Pen, but i thought that was landscaped areas.

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 11:43 AM
definitely it's not in Ayala Triangle. i have the name of the proj in my phone but im to lazy to wade along the messages right now. sounds like Gilarmi? it has nothing to do with the Ayalas so this is not at Ayala Triangle. im still trying to figure out where it would be built. but hey, this thing is definite - its a residential building! so maybe beside the cluster of Pacific Tower....Tuscany and Ritz Towers.

I think Ayala Tower 2 and 3 are cancelled already. So its definitely not them.

A 70 storey residential building...pretty cool. I hope there is still enough demand for this thing. If so, then we could have a new tallest soon! Did they say when exactly they will start construction? I wanna see some renderings!:D

renell
April 15th, 2004, 11:52 AM
maybe it will break up the 'middle finger' cluster. so it wont look like it's flicking you off..

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 12:00 PM
But it will prolly give you a even bigger middle finger!!:D depends on where it will be built.:D

renell
April 15th, 2004, 12:02 PM
nah, it's located at the extreme end that it wouldnt look like a middle finger at all

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 12:09 PM
So it will be built on Ayala Ave. corner EDSA?

Francis20
April 15th, 2004, 01:08 PM
haha...break the middle finger eh?
let's do guessing games at the moment.
what if it would be at at Ayala cor Makati ave?

renell
April 15th, 2004, 01:12 PM
i dont think so, all corner are occupied, arent they?

Francis20
April 15th, 2004, 01:16 PM
that one across Manila Penn is currently a parking lot renell. that's one of the corner angles of the Triangle.

Francis20
April 15th, 2004, 01:23 PM
renell, could you make a new thread for the Eaton Place project?

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 02:25 PM
But the corner of Ayala Ave. and Makati Ave. is Manila Peninsula. And across it is the old Makati stock exchange. Which, btw was rumored to be demolished for something taller. But the Ayala Triangle is Ayala land, i think if anyone is to build anything there, it would be Ayala.

Francis20
April 15th, 2004, 02:36 PM
errrr...bet Stock Exchange and Penn, there's this vacant lot. bu im guessing it would be somewhere bet EDSA and Pen.

ryanr
April 15th, 2004, 02:40 PM
But that vacant lot is owned by Ayala, and i think they will be the ones to build on that land if anything was to be built on that land.:D i dunno if im making any sense.

Same with me, i'm betting it will be between Makati Ave. and EDSA, along Ayala Ave. Get some more info for us, man:) So we can stop guessing.

Francis20
April 15th, 2004, 02:44 PM
hahahaha...ill contact the agent again tonight. but barely knows about this.

Edmundtanso
April 16th, 2004, 02:39 AM
francis, let us know if you got more info on this mysterious project! thanks

renell
April 16th, 2004, 03:23 AM
that one across Manila Penn is currently a parking lot renell. that's one of the corner angles of the Triangle.

but if im not mistaken, Nielsen's is close, and with it nearby, there's not much land area to build a tall one.


i will build an Eaton Place thread once im back in belgium. it's on the same progress as Laguna Tower.

weirdo
April 16th, 2004, 11:55 PM
ok some questions:

the orange and green small buildings in pic 1 & 2 indicates that it is sm. are they mall of asia? cos they seem really small. please enlighten me.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/pabf380de17878283b2110a94d2f11bfd/f8fcffab.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p01cfd67f5ae2a051bbb42f0e2b26eeef/f8fcffa9.jpg

and anyone knows this u/c? the pic was taken in bay city too:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p2642da91505102e5d2defcb9420cd341/f8fcffac.jpg

thanks :cheers:

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 04:00 AM
Ok. I know this. The long strip of orange and green SM buildings is not SM Mall of Asia. Believe it or not, it is actually SM's office headquarters. The also have some stores i think. But instead of building a skyscraper as their office, Henry Sy built this strip of orange/green buildings as their offices. SM Mall of Asia is supposed to be behind these buildings.

Why are there so many cars over there? Weird. Are they there because of the church?

Wow, thats a huge u/c! What is that? Looks big and great!

Francis20
April 17th, 2004, 06:01 AM
ok, here's an enlightenment regarding Gilarmi, the 70+ storey residential.
The old Gilarmi will be torn down and will be replaced by a taller one. so now, u got an idea if that f@ck like row will be broken or not. :D

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 06:09 AM
YAY!! I hate the old Gilarmi! Sweet. I hope the new 70 storey one will look awesome. Did u ask for renderings?:D

Thanks for the confirmation of the location, now we know. So when will they start? I hope soon coz they still have to tear down the old building.

Wish they changed the name too, Gilarmi is kinda wierd.

Francis20
April 17th, 2004, 07:18 AM
no problem. im a spy remember? im not sure if there are renderings as of now. the lot would be wide enough to accomodate a tall tower. construction is supposed to start 1 or 2 years from now. maybe that means start of demolition of the old one.

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 07:24 AM
thanks. I'll be waiting for renderings before i judge this. But so far, 70 storeys is pretty sweet.

Francis20
April 17th, 2004, 07:34 AM
what about a 70 storey version of Gilarmi? that would be a nightmare! :D

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 07:57 AM
Hahaha...that would be horror done to our skyline.

queetz
April 17th, 2004, 08:34 AM
If the Gilarmi is to be built in a site within the Ayala Centre area, it would really screw up the Makati City skyline. Right now, the Makati City Skyline is nearly perfect the way it is! PBCom being the tallest and the centre piece of the whole CBD is ideal and from GreyX's pic, it clearly shows Makati CBD skyline as domed shaped. If a 70 storey building is built in the Ayala Centre area, it would ruin the dome shape. :mad2:

Also, I find it disturbing that once again, the tallest building in the Philippines could be a residential. Ideally, an office tower should be tallest because it is the symbol of financial prestige and the "tower of commerce" centerpiece of any financial centre. A residential building as the tallest would imply the city's financial and corporate status is secondary and that the city is a mere "bedroom community" or resortified (cough...Vancouver....cough)! Makati City is the financial capital of the Philippines. Build it in Manila or even Ortigas for all I care but unless Makati City has a 70 office tower that is to be built soon to compensate for it, I do not support Gilmari! :puke:

absent-minded
April 17th, 2004, 09:01 AM
hahahaha.... Vancouver!!! I have to agree... its downtown area is full of residential scrapers. and, many buildings look very similar - as if there are only one or two architects within the city. if you look at the houses in Richmond, you can tell how old houses are by looking at the design. one year, one of the two architects come up with a design and every other new house looks almost exactly like it - only differing in size or color. next year, another architect comes up with common pattern...

well, that is a tiny bit of exaggeration (and there is probably more than two architects - just that they have no sense of creativity), but still... architecture in Vancouver is as boring as the city itself (and that should say a lot)...

anyway... what is the Gilarmi??? the name does sound weird... hehehe... queetz does seem to have a point in saying that a financial/commercial building should landmark any major city though... and I just found out now that Makati has a dome-shaped skyline! sounds so cool.... never noticed before though.

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 09:13 AM
I guess i can agree with you that a residential is not ideal for our "tallest skyscraper" but its still pretty cool that we are getting a 70 storey to beat PBcom. I just noticed makati's dome structure and it is pretty, but i think it will be quite interesting to have one building sticking out on the side:D

I'm pretty sure there WILL be office buildings in Makati, Rockwell (Lopez Center) and BGC that will be even taller. So this wont be our tallest for a long time as the office boom is just around the corner.

renell
April 17th, 2004, 10:59 AM
well im not against a residential as the tallest. i dont see what's bad about it. but hey, if you're really against it, just hope an office tower will beat it:D

ryanr
April 17th, 2004, 11:06 AM
I'm not against it either. But it does kinda make sense that an office tallest is better. I dont care, as long as we get taller buildings!:D

renell
April 17th, 2004, 11:11 AM
well it's not always the case. isn't South Koreas tallest a residential complex? as long as the design is superb and there's height, why not go for it.

Francis20
April 18th, 2004, 11:48 AM
ok ok...im sorry for bringing up the topic then. with what u said...u sure wouldnt hear anything about it from me again. we can do nothing about it, cud we?

Francis20
April 18th, 2004, 11:50 AM
forget Gilarmi then. what about shifting ur attention to this new Sojo Fort Boni. not sure about the order of the name. but that's the initial name. the one who will build Soho Central and Essensa will build this one.it's 35 storey high.

ryanr
April 18th, 2004, 12:01 PM
ok ok...im sorry for bringing up the topic then. with what u said...u sure wouldnt hear anything about it from me again. we can do nothing about it, cud we?

no. I thank you for bringing up the topic. Good job in finding out about Gilarmi. And please continue to give us updates should you find out more information:)

We cannot forget about Gilarmi. If it is to be our tallest, than no way we can avoid it. I support the construction of this building. but also encourage for taller ones to be built.

cool. Sojo Fort Boni, weird name though. I'd like to hear more news about this. and renderings, of course.

renell
April 18th, 2004, 05:11 PM
hmm.. finally something tall in BGC. all we've had in BGC are 20 storey condos.

ryanr
April 19th, 2004, 04:54 AM
Not really...Pacific Plazas are 55 storeys. And One McKinley is 30 something. 5th Ave will also be more than 30.

thomasian
April 19th, 2004, 11:01 AM
I thought Fifth Avenue Place is 46/47 stories high.

ryanr
April 19th, 2004, 11:41 AM
Yeah. I wasnt sure myself, thats why i said more than 30:D I think you are correct.

renell
April 19th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Not really...Pacific Plazas are 55 storeys. And One McKinley is 30 something. 5th Ave will also be more than 30.

i thought it was only 28 storeys? and Pacific Plazas are only 51 storeys, and One Mckinley has 41 floors.

Francis20
April 20th, 2004, 12:22 AM
i promised myself not to post again, but here you go...arguing about such things as ^
Fifth Avenue is 36 floors only. or maybe 37, but never 40+.
Renell, One Gateway is the one's that is 28 storey high.
One McKinley is 43 storey. pls correct me if im wrong.

ryanr
April 20th, 2004, 12:27 AM
my bad:D Thanks for the clarification.

Francis, why did you promise yourself not to post? We need you!:)
btw, can you check Ayala Gateway again. See if the 5 storey building is being built right on the corner of Ayala and Buendia or Ayala and Amorsolo (in front of MMC). The article you posted earlier says that it is on Ayala cor. Amorsolo, which is not the gateway site.

Edmundtanso
April 20th, 2004, 12:42 AM
great news about 70+ on the existing Gilarmi. does anyone have a photo showing the current Gilarmi? is is that ugly? =)

well, i beleive this 70+ would make makati skyline more interesting. i cant wait to see the renderings. i hope this project would push tru!

Francis20
April 20th, 2004, 06:28 AM
forget Gilarmi. im shutting my mouth about it okei?no to anything that spoils your day.

-article moved to BGC thread-

GreyX

ryanr
April 20th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Kuya Francis naman...You did not spoil anybody's day by mentioning Gilarmi. In fact you made things more interesting. So people (cough...such as Queetz) have their own opinions that they are entilted to. And that is what makes these forums great.
I'd love for you to keep us posted on the Gilarmi project, kuya.

I'm to lazy to read that BGC thing right now. I'll read it some other day.

Edmundtanso
April 20th, 2004, 09:41 PM
yeah francis, dont feel bad, pls keep up updated about this 70+ tower

lumpia
April 20th, 2004, 10:57 PM
yea.. me also curious on the Gilarmi.. can someone post a pic of the current gilarmi? i wanna see all the hubbub about it haha

renell
April 21st, 2004, 05:06 PM
5.3.5 Balconies are allowed and encouraged

hmm.. no wonder there's a lot of residentials there

Edmundtanso
April 21st, 2004, 10:52 PM
yeah, balconies on residential is always a + for the buyers

renell
April 22nd, 2004, 07:43 PM
5.3 FAÇADE
5.3.1 All building walls, including parking structures, shall be
designed with sufficient architectural details as to create identity
while still in harmony with the buildings/developments in immediate
vicinity

this is another of the tight rules i found. imagine this in Makati. with the different developers in the Makati CBD, this would have been hard

Edmundtanso
April 22nd, 2004, 08:22 PM
that's good though. i see a lot of plain and ugly parking garages.now i really want to see more renderings of 5th avenue place, because from the small rendering posted it looks so plain and simple.

renell
April 22nd, 2004, 10:01 PM
francis should return here and continue to update us. Gilarmi can go away for the moment, i'll be researching that when something in the net comes up..

Edmundtanso
April 23rd, 2004, 01:48 AM
yeah francis, we need you here to update us!

Francis20
April 23rd, 2004, 12:16 PM
im here...dun worry. di ko naman kau matitiis.

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 12:31 PM
Let me move that BGC article to the BGC thread. Its better suited there. And i'll comment about it over there.

good, you are still with us:)

Francis20
April 23rd, 2004, 12:52 PM
pero parang pagod na ako manggalugad ng updates.
anyone willing to do it instead? expect different reactions tho.
worse will be...i dunno. PEACE!

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 01:13 PM
ok, lang kuya. basta kung may oras at lakas ka.:D just try ur best, and it will be appriciated.

Francis20
April 23rd, 2004, 01:35 PM
by u? thanks GreyX.
ur comment keeps me going. what about starting off right now?
hahaha....too early. i have to rest. been a busy week, and looking forward to a busy weekend. i wanna go a watch Enchanted Kingdom's fireworks competition, but seems like i will be stucked at the office with tons of due files again.

thanks...have a nice weekends everyone!
btw, tomorrow's going to be Graduation Day at UPLB. a year since i marched.
off topic. more updates next time.
i got few at hand. but im too tired to post them.

ryanr
April 23rd, 2004, 01:40 PM
What are mods for?:D hehehehe...and what are friends for?;)

renell
April 23rd, 2004, 06:01 PM
hey look francis, ryan even spoke tagalog for ya :D

ryanr
April 24th, 2004, 04:27 AM
hey look francis, ryan even spoke tagalog for ya :D

:lol:

ryanr
April 24th, 2004, 04:28 AM
btw, can you check Ayala Gateway again. See if the 5 storey building is being built right on the corner of Ayala and Buendia or Ayala and Amorsolo (in front of MMC). The article you posted earlier says that it is on Ayala cor. Amorsolo, which is not the gateway site.

Francis or somebody, please answer this.:D

Francis20
April 24th, 2004, 05:07 AM
haha...great!
thanks.

ive been to Ortigas last thursday. had a joyride via MRT.
finally there's something sticking out of GA Tower's construction site. if im not mistaken ,there will be 8 basement parking levels. that should have taken them long before reaching ground level. im guessing Greenbelt Residences will be topped off first ahead of this one. can't wait to see a finished GA Tower. it has a nice top, plus spotlights on its side just like Tektite towers. plus there's this steel truss on top.

Francis20
April 24th, 2004, 06:10 AM
Francis or somebody, please answer this.:D

its along Buendia and Ayala Avenue.

renell
April 24th, 2004, 12:40 PM
in front of RCBC. you can clearly see it entering the intersection.

ryanr
April 24th, 2004, 01:53 PM
yeah but both sites are in front of RCBC. Queetz and i were discussing about this in msn and we were hoping that it would be on the Ayala cor Amorsolo lot. So that BPI can still be built on Gateway...but if it is on Gateway, we are hoping there is still space for BPI.

ryanr
April 24th, 2004, 01:56 PM
haha...great!
thanks.

ive been to Ortigas last thursday. had a joyride via MRT.
finally there's something sticking out of GA Tower's construction site. if im not mistaken ,there will be 8 basement parking levels. that should have taken them long before reaching ground level. im guessing Greenbelt Residences will be topped off first ahead of this one. can't wait to see a finished GA Tower. it has a nice top, plus spotlights on its side just like Tektite towers. plus there's this steel truss on top.

so does this mean that GA is back u/c? I like GA Tower, looking forward to it. There is a crane already, right?

Francis20
April 25th, 2004, 05:36 AM
the crane has been there long before. and it's officially u/c and i don't think it was ever halted. probably only when the mishap happened at the site last Nov 1.

Francis20
April 25th, 2004, 08:30 AM
based on the construction expanse, i don't think there's still room for the BPI project. unless they would put it over the 5-storey low rise. im not sure. i hope im wrong. but there's some digging behind the construction, probably for something taller. i don't think they need to dig deep for a 5-storey building. they just have to make the columns anchored deep into the ground.

ryanr
April 25th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Oh ok...thanks. So GA is still u/c? Any updates? It seems to be slower than other u/cs...

Hope they are digging deeper for something much taller;) And hope there is space for BPI. I'll check it out @ June. I'm really curious about this one.

renell
April 25th, 2004, 04:27 PM
well if the foundations are deep, this 5 storey building could be a podium of Ayala's next big thing. maybe they are anticipating the need for another office building in the coming years, and therefore are building a podium for it, but not going as far as building one yet.

ryanr
April 26th, 2004, 01:14 PM
renell, you could be right. And i hope you are. Since the foundations is taking such a long time, it could be that this 5 storey building is just a podium for a skyscraper. This could be just like "The Podium" in Ortigas which has a deep foundation for the anticipated SM-KS towers (70 storey and two 55 storey buildings)

Francis20
April 27th, 2004, 12:05 AM
GreyX, that would be wishful thinking for us....hahaha :D
podium at Ortigas has a real deep foundation...and parking level goes deep underground. while this one does not. ive seen one column anchored only about twice the height of man. i can visit the site again tho...and ask if there are more experts around.

eNoZ AnEWoR
April 27th, 2004, 07:57 AM
...i know this might not be for this thread..but what if they build this complex..minus..the gigantic eyesore...in the middle.... they should replace it...well i designed these buildings..like a long time ago(i wished it was bigger...cuz this damn imagestation shrinks it like a lot!!!!!) ...their kind of ugly i know.....the eye soar in the middle was inspired by a CD tower holder...its really big....its like 3 pbcom towers in width...and its definitely...a box!!!! the other 2 were just a creation...my fave is the CANON Centrepoint tower...i like the other one too..well...i was just imagining if they were to build this in the Philippines...wouldn't it be cool..the one that looks like the tower records building in hollywood..kinda looks like it...or does..but i think..we need more rounded buildings in the PHIL..they all look so boxy....don't you agree?


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pa73e0587ebb652434a71c8a00c9b68a5/f8dd9a71.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/pc60640d58931ff4ef16fa5e70ebb8577/f8dafb80.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p4e8c4be865a9d6f4c2c0831501624bc1/f8dafb84.jpg

renell
April 27th, 2004, 04:53 PM
hmm..what is this? a real building, or your creation? the middle looks ugly, like you said, but the smaller two are super :cheers:

Edmundtanso
April 27th, 2004, 11:26 PM
any update on Gilarmi guys?

Francis20
April 28th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Edmund, what is Gilarmi? pls refresh my memory.

Francis20
April 28th, 2004, 12:49 AM
nice towers there @ rowena. ive tried doing some sketches also, but not so good. plus i prefer skylines over detailed individual towers. quite amazing tho the middle one is quite massive. will that be twice the height of PB Com? im imagining of this real tall tower that would house all BPOs in the country...call centers, back room processing offices, etc...and it would light up brightly at night since most of these businesses work round the clock. and it would be built somewhere inside Ayala Triangle, would be 100 storey high, and it would be an IT Zone certified by PEZA...etc. that's be another wishful thinking tho. i can't wait to see a collosal U/c to rise at Ayala Triangle near Citibank. someone told me that something's gonna rise soon from that place. he's a secu guard atop Citibank...and i wasn't so convinced.

Edmundtanso
April 28th, 2004, 12:56 AM
francis, gilarmi (sp) is the 70+ proposed in ayala avenue remember? =)

Francis20
April 28th, 2004, 01:01 AM
ahh really? oh. im sorry. that must have slipped my notice. LOL
could u believe i dunno anything about this supertall?
let's forget it, doesn't make sense.

Edmundtanso
April 28th, 2004, 01:05 AM
forget it? why? is there such plan?

Francis20
April 28th, 2004, 01:08 AM
there is. but i lost interest with this one. construction will be underway within 2 years from now. that's all i know. the old gilarmi will soon be replaced. that is, if this project will materialize.

Edmundtanso
April 28th, 2004, 01:26 AM
cool! thanks

ryanr
April 28th, 2004, 11:33 AM
What are those Centerpoint towers, enoz? Please clarify. did you make them yourself or are those actual proposals? I like Centerpoint Tower 2 and 3:)

How come you lost interest in Gilarmi, Francis? I still wanna know about it.

eNoZ AnEWoR
April 28th, 2004, 12:08 PM
..oh their just my creations...srry i know they don't belong in this thread..but i was thinking..if we all created our own thing..what skylines we can create...i was just asking opinions..if they would look okay...or bearable...in like the Philippines..disregard..the ugly thing in the middle....what do you think about the ones to the side grey x?

ryanr
April 28th, 2004, 12:20 PM
No, its ok to post them here. I was just confused....
As i said, I like Centerpoint 2 and 3:) nice job.

renell
April 28th, 2004, 06:26 PM
right. this could be a Gilarmi expansion plan, to compete with the other serviced apartments in the CBD.. if im not mistaken it is one...

Francis20
April 29th, 2004, 12:40 AM
the old Gilarmi looks dull. i just hope this one would be something different. well, Eaton and Gilarmi developers (or contractors? im not sure) are in some way related with each other (cousins) so lets hope the towers will look like cousins as well. if this would be a services apartment, then it would sure have a big catch since its located right next to the key points of makati. then Oakwood will see a tough competition soon.

Edmundtanso
April 29th, 2004, 01:42 AM
i hope it would be as nice or nicer than the eaton makati!

Francis20
May 1st, 2004, 09:24 AM
i cud see Gilarmi from our office's lounge. partly.
it's quite dull...and boxy.

bagel
May 1st, 2004, 09:41 AM
I still don't know what this Gilarmi (old or new) is. Can't remember which building it is. Don't have an idea of what it looks like. Pics of old? Renderings of new?

renell
May 1st, 2004, 10:20 AM
old Gilarmi
http://www.asiatravel.com/hotelsystems/gilarmi/gifs/front.gif

new renderings, haven't seen any

Francis20
May 2nd, 2004, 12:20 PM
i haven't seen the new rendering either

JudeD
May 2nd, 2004, 02:19 PM
I stayed over at the Gilarmi a few times with a friend and inside it was so retro (translation: luma)! Like being transported to the 70s, the furniture, pool, and design were all very Brady Bunch. :-) The people who stay there like it though because it's cheap, private, and has a great location.

ryanr
May 3rd, 2004, 06:16 AM
yeah, its really old and dull. cant wait till they tear it down! for something much taller.

renell
May 4th, 2004, 06:08 PM
yeah, besides being ugly, it's small, and bigger buildings, more space, more profits. and they need to catch up with rivals.

ryanr
May 5th, 2004, 05:55 AM
I think it is time for new detailed updates...Francis?

ronnaveth
May 5th, 2004, 11:46 AM
wrong message

renell
May 5th, 2004, 05:57 PM
yeah, updated would be good at least monthly. and to save francis time, he could do all of the updates here, at let the people with more time spread the news to other threads. reminds me of jesus and his disciples now...:D

Francis20
May 5th, 2004, 06:53 PM
what does that mean Renell?
do the rundown here? :D so who is Jesus in this case?
im not holy hey...so it could not be me.

ryanr
May 6th, 2004, 01:37 PM
:? you guys arent making sense...:D

Now, can you give us detailed updates Francis?:)

Francis20
May 6th, 2004, 01:54 PM
not now GreyX. :D convince me there's indeed a need to do so...hahahaha...

ryanr
May 6th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Fine...not now. But give us updates this weekend;) You used to do it, why not now?:bleep: hehehe;):D Or else we will fire you and ask someone else to be the Philippine u/c guy. hahahahaha...

Francis20
May 6th, 2004, 02:18 PM
hahaha...i don't think someone is ready to assume the job GreyX. what about yourself? hahahaah...ok ok...i can do it this weekend. but hey, i dun have any news lately. ill try to go over the papers, dailies, etc. plus maybe i will use my cam, old cam, to give u idea what im talking about. tho i wont be able to post the photos till i got the money (midyear bonus...!!!)...so hold on a little bit...or what about checking out the u/cs yourself GreyX? it only costs a roundtrip ticket from here to there! right?

ryanr
May 6th, 2004, 02:39 PM
hahaha, you will always be the unofficial SSC Philippine forum U/C representative;)
What i mean by updates is by observation. You can tell us what you see when you see the construction sites. Just like before, remember?? If you can take pics, that would be better.

Yes, i will take pics of the u/c's when i get there.:) Its expensive to fly from here to there!! More expensive than Jakarta-Sydney, you know!!:rant:

Francis20
May 6th, 2004, 06:09 PM
GreyX, what about making me the official mod for the Proj on the rise subsubforum? ahahahaah...that's wishful thinking. forget it. sorry guys!

ryanr
May 8th, 2004, 04:05 PM
Nah, i dont think there could be a subsubforum mod;) My job already covers it, and there isnt really a need. sorry francis, you would just have to be our unofficial u/c man:D

Ok, its the weekend. Where's our updates?:D hehehe...

renell
May 8th, 2004, 05:01 PM
the building's websites aren't too updated that often. reliable, but slow.

Francis20
May 9th, 2004, 05:30 AM
so you're blaming for that???
hehe...i slept all day yesterday! so pls spare me...thanks! hehe...kidding there. it's that absent-minded is not in his good senses these past few weeks, so there...the bldgs updates isn't much updated.

lumpia
May 11th, 2004, 12:50 AM
On the Gateway Mall..
haha Forgive me if these were already posted on this thread.. only here since last month :D.. i do like these renderings. will it look this classy?.. take a look at these:

GRAND VIEW ALONG AGUINALDO AVE.
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/1.GRAND%20VIEW%20ALONG%20AGUINALDO%20AVE-%20MP%2001.jpg

GRAND VIEW ALONG ARANETA AVENUE
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/2.GRAND%20VIEW%20ALONG%20ARANETA%20AVENUE-MP%2002.jpg

ENTRANCE FROM
LRT 2
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/10.ENTRANCE%20FROM%20LRT-2%20-MP%2010%20REV%2003.jpg

MULTI LEVEL BRIDGEWAY
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/14.MULTI%20LEVEL%20BRIDGEWAY-%20MP%2014.jpg

THE GATEWAY EXPRESS FOODCOURT
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/15.THE%20GATEWAY%20EXPRESS%20FOODCOURT-%20MP%2015.jpg

SKYLIGHTED CINEMA LOBBY AND ATRIUM
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/16.SKYLIGHTED%20CINEMA%20LOBBY%20AND%20ATRIUM-MP%2016.jpg

HANGING GARDEN OF GATEWAY
http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/3.HANGING%20GARDEN%20OF%20GATEWAY-%20MP%2003.jpg

pau_p1
May 11th, 2004, 02:16 AM
wow... that looks nice.... it seemed that the Gateway would definitely add life to the old Araneta Center.... :D

SunKing
May 11th, 2004, 06:26 AM
It does look nice with all those greenery adorning the roads and the interiors.

bagel
May 11th, 2004, 07:41 AM
I'm not sure about the color choice... particularly the multicolored "Gateway" signs. Garish.

I hope those are just for the sketches and they go with classier hues to go with the classy mall. But it probably won't be as shiny and classy as Greenbelt since being the nexus for two railway systems will make extremely high traffic. It will definitely be better than MetroPoint, though.

Francis20
May 11th, 2004, 08:11 AM
yes, definitely better than Metropoint. hopefully, i would cater not only the C and Ds but the A and Bs as well. btw, the mall is already topped off. they used steel in constructing the framework. also with the Cyber Tower beside it. now, they're working on the facade. glass facade that is. seems like the opening date (July?) is not so impossible.

lumpia
May 11th, 2004, 08:34 AM
yes, definitely better than Metropoint. hopefully, i would cater not only the C and Ds but the A and Bs as well. btw, the mall is already topped off. they used steel in constructing the framework. also with the Cyber Tower beside it. now, they're working on the facade. glass facade that is. seems like the opening date (July?) is not so impossible.
actually being on the website http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph, the opening date is due in sept. :( no worries only 2 months after! :D:D

ryanr
May 11th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Sweet! :eek: Those are by far the best animated renderings of Gateway we've seen!:) It looks great. This will be one of the best malls in the country, for sure. Especially when other phases of the Araneta Center rehab is complete. I love its glassy and colorful exterior. Interior is very high-end as well. This mall is more of a A, B and C class mall.

This mall will also have the best cinemas, and the only I-MAX theatre in the country (although there are other proposals elsewhere, like in Mall of Asia).

thomasian
May 11th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Wow. Those renderings are much better than those i've posted before.

BTW, the Cyber Office Tower above gateway is really nice.

http://www.gatewaymall.com.ph/images/gateway/17.VIEW%20OF%20CYBER%20OFFICES%20FROM%20AURORA-MP%2017.jpg

thomasian
May 11th, 2004, 06:58 PM
yes, definitely better than Metropoint. hopefully, i would cater not only the C and Ds but the A and Bs as well. btw, the mall is already topped off. they used steel in constructing the framework. also with the Cyber Tower beside it. now, they're working on the facade. glass facade that is. seems like the opening date (July?) is not so impossible.

It would also definitely cater to class A and Bs because the existing Rustans Dept. store in Araneta center will transfer to Gateway once its completed.

ryanr
May 14th, 2004, 04:50 PM
So this Cyber Office will house call centers, IT firms, etc? cool.

bagel
May 14th, 2004, 05:26 PM
Too bad MRT3 doesn't look that sleek in real life. :(

BTW, what's going to happen to ALI Mall when Gateway opens? It will be like the ugly older brother that nobody wants to talk about. I hope they still keep it well-maintained.

renell
May 14th, 2004, 07:33 PM
those renderings sure are something...

when's Gateway gonna finish? better make sure i see that when i go back in a year or so...

ryanr
May 15th, 2004, 03:41 AM
Their website says September.

Jerico_08
May 15th, 2004, 09:16 AM
I hope all those green and blue sky would be visible when completed...:)

ryanr
May 17th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Guys, lets post in the individual u/c threads. Some of them are so inactive, they might get pruned. We wouldnt want that to happen, right?

renell
May 17th, 2004, 05:59 PM
well even this thread is dead.

francis keeps this subforum alive. that's a fact:D

bagel
May 17th, 2004, 06:57 PM
I would post except I'm not in Manila so I can't give any updates. OK I will post now.

renell
May 18th, 2004, 05:57 PM
I would post except I'm not in Manila so I can't give any updates. OK I will post now.


well we're just here to awe and ask questions...:D

Francis20
May 18th, 2004, 11:59 PM
well even this thread is dead.

francis keeps this subforum alive. that's a fact:D

im afraid i can't...ill be somewhat busy for the next 4 months including May. but im confident someone else could do the feeble job nyway. :D

Francis20
May 19th, 2004, 12:10 AM
i mean my feeble job.
but hey, ill keep u posted on NEW proposals on the drawing board and u/cs.
these are things to be excited about.

ryanr
May 19th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Thats fine, Francis...Just post whenever you can:) Pau, SunKing, Weirdo, thomasian can fill in and give us some updates too:)