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Insane alex November 11th, 2008, 10:52 PM Alviks torn
http://peab.capitex.se/CapitexResources/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile.dbfile.aspx?g=3IPA3GR7G4UV1ENL&t=CBild&dc=2008-11-05 08:29:24&width=631&height=444&q=120&ScaleAndClipMode=OnlyScaleDown
http://peab.capitex.se/CapitexResources/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile.dbfile.aspx?g=3IPA3IC0E4UV1ERF&t=CBild&dc=2008-11-05 08:33:49&width=631&height=444&q=120&ScaleAndClipMode=OnlyScaleDown
http://peab.capitex.se/CapitexResources/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile/Capitex.Datalager.DBFile.dbfile.aspx?g=3IPA3HDI84UV1EPJ&t=CBild&dc=2008-11-05 08:33:49&width=631&height=444&q=120&ScaleAndClipMode=OnlyScaleDown
-21fl
- Completion in 2012
- C.F.Möller/Berg Arkitektkontor.
Peabs site: http://www.peabbostad.se/listsearch
staff November 12th, 2008, 05:14 PM I really like it. Is it two towers (as the model kinda indicates) or one?
Vormek November 12th, 2008, 06:48 PM Looks good too me. But completion in 2012? That's a bit extreme.
Insane alex November 12th, 2008, 07:49 PM Its one tower. :)
Boscorelli November 12th, 2008, 10:26 PM ^^
But the lower half is part of that building right?
If it isn't it's a shame!
Insane alex November 12th, 2008, 10:36 PM Yes, it is.
Ingenioren November 12th, 2008, 10:45 PM Brilliant tower! (And buildings) Where's it at?
Insane alex November 13th, 2008, 12:31 AM Alvik, Bromma.
Swede November 13th, 2008, 09:22 AM ^Which is just west of Kungsholmen, three stations out from the edge of the really urban inner city.
@Vormek - I'm thinking that includes time for appeals against it by nimbys. Almost ALL projects here get nimby-storms against them, costing millions of SEK and possibly years.
Boscorelli November 13th, 2008, 03:29 PM Another picture, this time from above.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1848/modellbild2bb0.jpg
AW November 13th, 2008, 10:51 PM Typical danish design. :) = crooked and asymmetrical. Sometimes it works but it's getting old. Nice height sure, but uninteresting location and ugly design. As usual in Stockholm.
safta20 November 13th, 2008, 10:53 PM I like danish design. Please import more Danes to Stockholm!
AW November 13th, 2008, 10:58 PM No thank you! Import more people from outside the nordic please, both swedish and danish architects sucks compared to what's out there! ;)
EDIT: Well, not that I would mind more danish people moving to Sthlm. Aaa you get my point.. :)
Boscorelli November 13th, 2008, 11:57 PM Typical danish design. :) = crooked and asymmetrical. Sometimes it works but it's getting old. Nice height sure, but uninteresting location and ugly design. As usual in Stockholm.
I like it and I definitely don't think the location is uninteresting!
On the contrary I think it could be a real bost to the area with a highrise on just that location.
Insane alex November 14th, 2008, 12:29 AM I think it looks great! And what's wrong with the location?
AW November 14th, 2008, 12:35 AM Sure it'll be a boost for the area, but uninteresting as in 'far away from the urban inner city'. I guess I should've said "uninteresting project" instead; another lonely suburban highrise residental tower. Sure better than nothing but.. still boring as hell.
Boscorelli November 14th, 2008, 12:43 AM ^^
Well it is not far away from the urban inner city it's just on the other side of the bridge from Kungsholmen. A bit lonely yes, but nothing is as it is forever.
But it's ok if you don't like it! ;)
AW November 14th, 2008, 01:24 AM Well, I still consider it far away from any continuous urban areas, since it's most likely one of those places I'll never set foot in. :)
Don't get me wrong, I still think they should build it. I'm just bitter that Stockholm never gets an interesting highrise proposal.. ever.
Þróndeimr November 14th, 2008, 10:44 PM But completion in 2012? That's a bit extreme.
Thats just 3 years, pretty muchy the same as everything else around here.
Very nice tower actually, but want to see some realtime renderings first. :)
khaan November 18th, 2008, 02:03 AM Nice tower! Love it. While there are som towers with this kind of "danish" design by now, we don't have much of it in Stockholm, so I think it will make a great addition indeed! (Well, if it ever gets built that is... this is Stockholm after all, the mother of cancelled projects... )
khaan November 18th, 2008, 02:07 AM Well, I still consider it far away from any continuous urban areas, since it's most likely one of those places I'll never set foot in. :)
I have to disagree with you there. It's rather close to areas in Kungsholmen going through heavy urbanisation right now, and Alvik in itself also has some urbanity that can be built upon. This will be a great addition to the area, and hopefully the start of a redefinition of what Alvik is. This is precisely what I want to see much more of in Stockholm, more interresting projects in the inner suburbs, expanding the urbanity and the city core, creating a bigger urban landscape.
safta20 November 18th, 2008, 12:32 PM There is potential to build a village in this area. There is already a small village of modern and old buildings. There is space along Mälaren and there is a big road and a metro train depot that we hopefully can cover with residentials in the future. The public transport is excellent with 1 metro line and 2 LRT lines.
But there is one of Europes biggest biggest family house areas and a "hus i park" area from the 40s-50s that surround Alvik. And I do not believe that they will let us urbanisize these areas. Especially not the family house area that I guess is considered as historically too important to urbanisize.
Parzival November 18th, 2008, 10:02 PM I don't think this tower is approved..
khaan November 18th, 2008, 10:04 PM No. An admin needs to change this to PRO.
Edit: Swede to the rescue! :)
AW November 18th, 2008, 10:20 PM I have to disagree with you there. It's rather close to areas in Kungsholmen going through heavy urbanisation right now, and Alvik in itself also has some urbanity that can be built upon. This will be a great addition to the area, and hopefully the start of a redefinition of what Alvik is. This is precisely what I want to see much more of in Stockholm, more interresting projects in the inner suburbs, expanding the urbanity and the city core, creating a bigger urban landscape.
Be that as it may, I still stand by my comments. :) Ugly design and a location I'll never set foot in. But I agree that it'll be a good addition for the area. I just think it's another boring and ugly proposal.
fetg_ November 28th, 2008, 12:58 AM I like danish design. Please import more Danes to Stockholm!
I really like this project, but I don't want to have too much of this design all over Stockholm.
safta20 November 28th, 2008, 10:35 AM ^^ Don't worry Fet G. Out of millions of houses.... We do not have any architecture of this style in this town yet.;)
khaan November 28th, 2008, 10:44 AM I could easily envision a bunch of buildings with this architectural style in Stockholm. They will hardly be seen anyway, in the midst of all "big-windows-and-white-facades"-nyfunkis...
safta20 December 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM Here are more renderings from Möllers (http://www.cfmoller.com/siteCFM/projectdetail.asp?x=&langcurr=2.1.1&detail=2366)site:
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevarintranet.asp?id=13781&w=530&h=579&type=D
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevarintranet.asp?id=13779&h=575&w=800&type=D
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevarintranet.asp?id=13780&h=750&w=687&type=D
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevarintranet.asp?id=13801&h=372&w=800&type=D
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevarintranet.asp?id=13809&h=532&w=800&type=D
Insane alex December 20th, 2008, 06:03 PM I just love this one!
AdnanPD December 20th, 2008, 11:45 PM This one is a beauty. Hope it would get aproved and U/C soon ;)
Boscorelli November 13th, 2009, 06:28 PM Länsstyrelsen in Stockholm want the house lowered to 17 floors because of Bromma airport.
Länsstyrelsen anser att det höga husets föreslagna höjd 21 vån/+68,8 m (RH70) skulle störa inflygningen till riksintresset Bromma flygplats och att hushöjden därför måste begränsas till den gällande hindersfrihöjden +59, 4 (RH70), vilket motsvarar ca +59 m i stadens höjdsystem.
Det föreslagna höghuset på Racketen 11 föreslås sänkas till +59
m/ca 17 våningar och i samband med det bör det också studeras om övriga hus skall sänkas från 9 till 8 vån, för att få bättre balans mellan höga och ”låga” hus.
Sänkning av husen kan ge något färre lägenheter, vilket ev kan vägas upp av nya bostäder på Nätdomaren 1.
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanDocuments____2811.aspx#bookmarkB14
Insane alex November 13th, 2009, 07:05 PM I hate länsstyrelssen!
Swede November 13th, 2009, 07:22 PM Varför är det någopt som Länsstyrelsen ska bry sig om? Har vi inte Luftfartsverket till detta? Dom kan ju säga till om sånt. Därför ser jag detta uttalande som lite suspekt. Har dock inte koll på om detta är normalt förfarande.
Sänkning av höghuset och låghuset ("balans"? bullshit, dom vill ha låga hus helt enkelt, blir fin balans ändå) skulle IMO motivera en radikalare ändring av planen. Dags då för en ny urbanare plan för platsen.
Joney November 14th, 2009, 10:47 PM Länsstyrelsen, The last stand of old communist sweden.
11433 November 15th, 2009, 01:49 AM Transportstyrelsen is responsible for development of the rules regarding everything around our airports and sadly länstyrelsen is the one for implementing them in real life.
I would love to seen this go up as 21 story or even higher but aslong as we keep bromma opperational is seems a bit risky to put up building that is taller than the safety recomendations allow.
As for länstyrelsen in generall ( I tend to agree with them on this rare occasion). They are a bunch of incompetent f++king clowns, the absolute most braindead of all covernment employees.
Joney November 15th, 2009, 05:52 AM Transportstyrelsen is responsible for development of the rules regarding everything around our airports and sadly länstyrelsen is the one for implementing them in real life.
I would love to seen this go up as 21 story or even higher but aslong as we keep bromma opperational is seems a bit risky to put up building that is taller than the safety recomendations allow.
As for länstyrelsen in generall ( I tend to agree with them on this rare occasion). They are a bunch of incompetent f++king clowns, the absolute most braindead of all covernment employees.
However it's weird scince no flights are entering from that side of bromma. It's not logical at all.
MicaelJ November 15th, 2009, 12:54 PM However it's weird scince no flights are entering from that side of bromma. It's not logical at all.
You tend to want a bit of leeway around airports in case of unforeseen circumstances.
11433 November 15th, 2009, 01:07 PM However it's weird scince no flights are entering from that side of bromma. It's not logical at all.
Are you sure? The last couple of times that I have flewn to Bromma we came in over the city and passing kungsholmen and tranebergsbron on the way to the airfield.
Joney November 15th, 2009, 03:12 PM Are you sure? The last couple of times that I have flewn to Bromma we came in over the city and passing kungsholmen and tranebergsbron on the way to the airfield.
What I have heard flights enter from north side of Traneberg and maybe north side of kungholmen then. but I may be wrong.
Boscorelli November 27th, 2009, 06:35 AM I think it can be changed from 21 to 17 floos now since Peab who's building it has changed it to 17 floors on their site.
I really think that the danish firm C. F. Møller should redesign the highrise now, because it simply won't look good as it has turned out now, when shortened four floors!
http://peab.capitex.se/intro.aspx?guid=3F3BKBBQFM5HNM4J&typ=CMNyProd&county=Stockholm
Boscorelli December 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM New pictures on the architects site now of Alviks torn as a 17 floor building instead of 21 floors, it says 18 storeys on the site but perhaps it is because they count the bottom floor in Denmark? :dunno:?
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8913/alvik.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4205/alvik5.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3506/alvik6.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5200/alvik2.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2770/alvik3.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/505/alvik4.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3936/alvik7.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6799/alvik8.jpg
Alviks torn is a sculptural housing complex designed to bring identity to the district - and thereby, to Stockholm. The site lies in a prominent location towards the archipelago, and forms a transition zone between the city and the landscape, which has inspired the architecture. The development - a fractured block of approximately nine storeys and a landmark 18-storey tower divided into two parts - draws its shape and lines from the steepness and structure of the mountains bordering the lake Mälaren.
The form secures each residence a maximum of daylight and view. At the same time, the solution provides free areas which can be used as squares or open spaces – such as a viewing level near the water, and a central square oriented towards the city. The open spaces unite the life of the city with transparent, public-oriented areas at street level.
http://www.cfmoller.com/siteCFM/projectdetail.asp?x=&langcurr=2.1.1&detail=2366
AW December 3rd, 2009, 11:58 AM ^^ Don't we count the bottom floor here as well? :) In that case they lowered it by three goddamn floors..? LOL
Boscorelli December 3rd, 2009, 12:06 PM ^^
Well I don't know I just thought about us saying "Bottenplan" then "1:a våningen" or "en trappa upp" or whaterver we say ;)
Lest's hope for 18 but the city and the builder says 17 floors.
Boscorelli December 26th, 2010, 10:41 PM Please Insane Alex can't you updated the first post with the renders above for instance? :)
Boscorelli April 13th, 2011, 12:48 AM Sorry forgot that Racketen 11 has got it's own thread.
Racketen 11 has reached the exhibition stage!
Utställning 2011-04-13 - 2011-05-11
http://insynsbk.stockholm.se/Byggochplantjansten/Pagaende-planarbete/PagaendePlanarbete/Planarende/?JournalNumber=2009-06788
And 18 floors seems to be what it is.
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