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[stadiumdesigner]

here is the old thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=711574)

Well im not sure if this is just gross promotion or what...but it is kind of lifestyle so here i go!

My band (Place of Indigo) is playing on Thursday night @ the Swan Basement. We are an Indie band with good solid tunes (we think :P) and our supporting bands are very good as well!

Doors open at 8pm, we play at 11.05...and its a lot more fun than waiting in the line at clubba!

Check us out anyway...tell us what you think!

www.myspace.com/placeofindigo

[Auxodium]

now lets move away from indian for now and are there any decent mexican joints worth a go, i really want to have some mexican food :)

[alvse]

Panchos

[Auxodium]

and where would they be alvse mate? :o any others? i have tried santa fe and annies and they are so so but looking for others

[acc521]

http://www.panchos.com.au I assume?

[Sanj]

santa fe and annies are pretty shit in my opinion.

the tacos arent bad at panchos actually and for the typical mexican food i would say panchos is better than the other 2.

my favourite would still have to be flying taco, but it is a much more limited menu there.

the little mexican place is too inconsistent for me to recommend, but some of the food is pretty good there.

[alvse]

santa fe and annies are pretty shit in my opinion.

the tacos arent bad at panchos actually and for the typical mexican food i would say panchos is better than the other 2.

my favourite would still have to be flying taco, but it is a much more limited menu there.

the little mexican place is too inconsistent for me to recommend, but some of the food is pretty good there.



have you ever thought of taking up a career in the area of food critic :lol:

[Sanj]

haha i suppose i can always dream. unfortunately i dont think i have the writing skills needed. it does break my heart tho when i read some shocking reviews by ppl who dont have a clue what they are on about. community newspapers are the best example of this.

what i actually would like to do in a few years is to perhaps invest in the food industry and be involved in the conceptuaising phase of ventures but not do the day to day running of it.

[stadiumdesigner]

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.

what a bloke! incredible!

[miensie]

That is fantastic news, hope they are spending enough on the fitout ;)

You don't read my posts John! See below re fitout:


31/10/2008 "FORREST CHASE"
419-447 Wellington Street
PERTH WA 6000
Shop fit-out and new roller shutter to
shop front for Levis (shop 8)
150,000.00
DA 2008/2342



04/09/2008 "CARILLON CITY"
680-692 Hay Street Mall
PERTH WA 6000
Retail Fitout to Shop H4 -
'Style Bar'
110,000.00 BA-RF 2008/387


Style Bar is open.

[crave]

NO MCDONALDS!

what about kfc? gotta let kfc in... :p

great news...

[tbor]

santa fe and annies are pretty shit in my opinion.


Santa Fe is awful. They use generic tomato sauce (ie. ketchup) and dont use frijoles in their dishes. Its not mexican IMO, its something else entirely.

[miensie]

Ketchup? Who says ketchup, tbor?

Then again, I do say gas station...:D

[acc521]

Ketchup is more vinegery (not a real word I know) than Tomato Sauce.

[Sanj]

really? i always thought ketchup was just what americans called tomato sauce.

learn something new everyday.

[miensie]

ARE YOU SURE, ACC521? :lol:

I'm with Mr Critic on this one.

[acc521]

Yes. Technically it's essentially tomato sauce but with more sugar and vinegar. If you try both side by side you will notice the difference.

There are a lot of people who use the terms interchangably though.

[Sanj]

a quick search on the net reveals that it is quite a difficult thing to work out. if the explanation of ketchup vs tomato sauce is written by an american then they say different things to what someone in england of aust would say by the looks of it. in my opinion the only way to tell for sure would be to look at the ingredients list on the back of a bottle of tomato sauce Vs ketchup.

it is interesting tho acc. how did u figure this out?

[acc521]

The evidence is conflicting however for me actual experience of the taste of various brands has been enough to confirm the difference.

[Sanj]

fair enough.

it is interesting tho cos tomato sauce happens to be one of those products with a fair bit of umami in it which is why it is used in some dishes as well (often without ppl originally knowing about umami etc).

[alvse]

You know what is awesome... Banana Ketchup.... I bought a bottle home from the philippines... I still havent been able to find any in Perth... I love the stuff more than tomato sauce/ketchup

[miensie]

Banana Ketchup, alvse? Is that just the brand?

There's lots of things that you can't get here. There's an Indonesian sambal that I'm yet to see here. Awesome stuff.

I was going past the Dragon Palace the other day alvse. It looks...kinda dodgy?

[alvse]

Banana Ketchup, alvse? Is that just the brand?

There's lots of things that you can't get here. There's an Indonesian sambal that I'm yet to see here. Awesome stuff.

I was going past the Dragon Palace the other day alvse. It looks...kinda dodgy?




Dragon Palace... or Dragon Seafood?

[miensie]

Erm...that place you went to with your misses to celebrate your 6th month anniversary?

[alvse]

Erm...that place you went to with your misses to celebrate your 6th month anniversary?

Dragon Palace is the big arse one on Francis street with Karaoke and shit next door... looks very fancy

Dragon Seafood is on James st and looks like a dump... great place for dim dum though


I went to Dragon Palace with the misses

[miensie]

Dragon Palace is the big arse one on Francis street with Karaoke and shit next door... looks very fancy

Dragon Seafood is on James st and looks like a dump... great place for dim dum though


I went to Dragon Palace with the misses

I'm confused.

Dragon Palace is the one I'm referring to in terms of dodgyness (?). It's a yuck brown colour and they've got weird and wonderful flags hanging.

Dragon Seafood is next to the Tea Cafe, yes? Green marble place? I think that looks nicer.

Maybe we have different taste :lol:

[Sanj]

i went for dim sum to dragon palace. was quite disappointed. the wuality of the prawns etc was very good but every single one of their fried dishes were disappointing and they didnt have yam dumplings. dium sum for me is incomplete without yam and pork dumplings

[miensie]

I don't like yam. Especially yam basket.

[Sanj]

great news!


*Hot off the press*

It's now, well, semi-official: Star Anise's David Coomer will be opening his new restaurant, tentatively named Pata Negra, in Nedlands next February.

"It will be Moorish-inspired, so will have a tapas focus," David told me today. "But it won't be exclusively tapas. There'll also be quail, octopus, tajines and vegetables roasted in the massive wood-fired oven. Most of the influences will be coming from Spain, Morocco and the Middle East. Our sous chef, Matt Stone, will be heading over there to run it and will be joined by Kurt Sampson. It will have a more casual, user-friendly feel than Star Anise".

Stay tuned..

[Sanj]

I don't like yam. Especially yam basket.

dont worry miensie, no one is perfect

[alvse]

great news!


*Hot off the press*

It's now, well, semi-official: Star Anise's David Coomer will be opening his new restaurant, tentatively named Pata Negra, in Nedlands next February.

"It will be Moorish-inspired, so will have a tapas focus," David told me today. "But it won't be exclusively tapas. There'll also be quail, octopus, tajines and vegetables roasted in the massive wood-fired oven. Most of the influences will be coming from Spain, Morocco and the Middle East. Our sous chef, Matt Stone, will be heading over there to run it and will be joined by Kurt Sampson. It will have a more casual, user-friendly feel than Star Anise".

Stay tuned..




Do I smell an SSC meet :lol:

[miensie]

dont worry miensie, no one is perfect

LOL man you are a royal pain in the rear end, aren't you Sanj? :lol:

- EDIT -

Alvin, it was meant to be at your place, no?

[Perth4life]

Ketchup? Who says ketchup, tbor?

Then again, I do say gas station...:D

thats almost as bad as cell phone!

shame on you.

[ryan79]

I've never been to Dim Sum before.

Am I missing out?

[samboy]

One way to find out. Why don't you and Minsie hook up and check it out for yourself :lol:

[stadiumdesigner]

how old is minsie? ill beat you to it :P

[ryan79]

:lol:

Funny people.

I don't meet people of the internet :D

[ryan79]

Actually, I just looked it up. I've been to similar where everyone orders a dish then we all have a bit of that dish.

Similar?

[tbor]

Ketchup? Who says ketchup, tbor?

Then again, I do say gas station...:D

Ha! I wanted to avoid ambiguity of the term "Tomato sauce", even good mexican restaurants use 'Tomato Sauce', just not the table variety I'm talking about :eat:


Pfffttt, gas station, c'mon who says that :nuts:

[miensie]

This is gonna be a crazy post again...apologies people.

thats almost as bad as cell phone!

shame on you.


Pfffttt, gas station, c'mon who says that :nuts:

LOL I know. I get flack for it all the time. I tried to stop saying it but it's like a reflex. Automatic.

There's something wrong with cell phone, P4L? o_0 I say that too sometimes.

how old is minsie? ill beat you to it :P

Samboy, stop calling me minsie! MIENSIE is 24 SD.

:lol:

Funny people.

I don't meet people of the internet :D

A weird bunch aren't they Ryan? :rofl:

Actually, I just looked it up. I've been to similar where everyone orders a dish then we all have a bit of that dish.

Similar?

Erm...kinda. But not quite. That's the general gist of it but the reality is quite different. Hard to explain. Like samboy said, try it.

[Sanj]

Actually, I just looked it up. I've been to similar where everyone orders a dish then we all have a bit of that dish.

Similar?

i suppose different cultures have something similar, but nothing beats dim sum for the instant gratification etc.
u should check it out.

i wouldnt go with miensie, she doesnt like yam. although we did collectively establish she was hot and/or a ballbreaker.

[Auxodium]

santa fe and annies are pretty shit in my opinion.

the tacos arent bad at panchos actually and for the typical mexican food i would say panchos is better than the other 2.

my favourite would still have to be flying taco, but it is a much more limited menu there.

the little mexican place is too inconsistent for me to recommend, but some of the food is pretty good there.

thanks mate, if there are any more places that would be great, i wanna try new places and all :)

Ketchup? Who says ketchup, tbor?

Then again, I do say gas station...:D

ARRRGH!!! gas station WTF? it is petrol damn it! :P:bash:

[Blindfold]

We know that Woolworths are the major retail tenant anchoring this development and I'm quite sure this is also the case for Raine Sq. Surely three Woolie's and no Coles is not ideal and not good for competition for the growing city market. Unless Raine Sq is a Big W which could be interesting. I know Brisbane has a Big W in the CBD.

[samboy]

I wish they'd get rid of Target and convert it to BigW

[miensie]

Difference, samboy?

[repi]

I think the current Woolworths on Murray St (I forget the name of the building it's in) would be perfect expansion space for Myer. They could knock a hole in the walls to make it contiguous with the ground floor of the current Myer space.

[Hossen27]

Difference, samboy?

Big W sell for less

[Blindfold]

I think the current Woolworths on Murray St (I forget the name of the building it's in) would be perfect expansion space for Myer. They could knock a hole in the walls to make it contiguous with the ground floor of the current Myer space.

Myer should bring back their foodhall that they used to have in the basement. Would be good competition for DJ's foodhall. Maybe they should have it with a cafe/restaurant on the top level with windows and views. Bit like Peter Jones, Harvey Nichols or John Lewis in London.

[ryan79]

Why is it even called gas, its liquid? Petrol, short for Pertoleum - makes sense.

And its a Servo not a Gas or Petrol station :)

Cell phone at least kinda makes sense but Mobile sounds better.

[ryan79]

i suppose different cultures have something similar, but nothing beats dim sum for the instant gratification etc.
u should check it out.

i wouldnt go with miensie, she doesnt like yam. although we did collectively establish she was hot and/or a ballbreaker.

Yeah I will definitely check it out. Recommendations?

Yeah definitely one or the other I reckon. Best to stay away from her. :lol:

[Perth4life]

cell phone is uber american

[ryan79]

DJs has a cafe on the top level too.

Honestly, I don't rate the cafes in department stores. Food halls on the other hand....

[ryan79]

I wish they'd get rid of Target and convert it to BigW

I dunno, I think a K-Mart might suit that site better.

[miensie]

Yeah definitely one or the other I reckon. Best to stay away from her. :lol:

Just you wait Ryan :crazy2:

[miensie]

Big W sell for less

LOL

Big W. We Sell For Less. The Brands You Know and Trust. Everyday Low Prices :D

[Blindfold]

Food halls on the other hand....

What we really need is a Marks & Spencer's Foodhall in the city. Anyone who has ever lived or spent time in the UK will know eaxactly what I mean. Would do well with our high percentage of Brits in Perth. Never gonna happen though.

[ryan79]

What we really need is a Marks & Spencer's Foodhall in the city. Anyone who has ever lived or spent time in the UK will know eaxactly what I mean. Would do well with our high percentage of Brits in Perth. Never gonna happen though.

Just don't talk to me about it!!

I would kill for one, I lived in those when I was there.

[Sanj]

guys there is a party happening in wolfe lane on sat night. apparently it started out as an exhibition organised by subway dc and wasteland but it has now included the move crew who put on gigs and happened to have a gig organised for that night anyway.

so basically, laneway party on saturday night, with license til 2am.

it is called the blackspot laneway party. i think tickets are available from the usual places like planet etc.i'll be going to check it out.

[Auxodium]

I wish they'd get rid of Target and convert it to BigW

they are the same but different 'stables'

i wouldnt mind seeing either of them in a nice department store location with smaller tennants and a nice ground leve atmosphere

[samboy]

Why is it even called gas, its liquid? Petrol, short for Pertoleum - makes sense.

And its a Servo not a Gas or Petrol station :)

Cell phone at least kinda makes sense but Mobile sounds better.

gas = gasoline
petrol = petroleum

essentially the same thing. both are liquids and both are abbreviated. Depends on where you live :)

[samboy]

Difference, samboy?

Target is more 'clothing' oriented whereas BigW/Kmart have a wider range of everything else. Even BigW is better than Kmart when it comes to variety. In fact Kmart has started copying BigW in many ways (recent shop refurbishments and changes in stock and more focus on 'bulk' items etc) as in recent times Big W's model has been more successful than Kmart.

[alvse]

Alvin, it was meant to be at your place, no?

How about something after new years....?

[ryan79]

gas = gasoline
petrol = petroleum

essentially the same thing. both are liquids and both are abbreviated. Depends on where you live :)

Ok now at least gas makes sense.

But gasoline doesn't.

[Dilaz89]

Target is slightly higher brow than Big W and K-Mart. It just needs a good makeover and expansion.

[acc521]

guys there is a party happening in wolfe lane on sat night. apparently it started out as an exhibition organised by subway dc and wasteland but it has now included the move crew who put on gigs and happened to have a gig organised for that night anyway.

so basically, laneway party on saturday night, with license til 2am.

it is called the blackspot laneway party. i think tickets are available from the usual places like planet etc.i'll be going to check it out.

I might check it out if you don't need tickets.

[Smeg]

Target is slightly higher brow than Big W and K-Mart. It just needs a good makeover and expansion.

Quite right Dillaz. It is interesting to note the changes happening right now with these major players. Target is trying to position itself above Kmart and Big W, closer toward the Myer level without actually getting there. You will see that through the odd "exclusive designer offers" they are beginning to play with.

Myer on the other hand are actually actively reducing the prestige level of their stores in an attempt to stop competing directly with DJs as they have realised it is a battle they will not win. Do not be surprised if in a few years time Myer and Target get close to meeting in the middle.

Having said that, the most successful of the lot is Big W which prides itself on its position as the lowest rung on the ladder. Cheap product, low prices. Its what they do and they do it well.

As for Kmart, they don't even know where they want to be (or even IF they want to be) but they take position a little bit above Big W and a little bit below Target. Many consider this the dead zone of large scale retail and I would not be surprised to see Kmart as a brand exit the market in the very near future.

But I agree with Dillaz in regard to the City Target, it just needs a reno to spruce it up and my intel says it's going to get it in the near future (as well as the rest of Perth Central).

My 2c worth anyway. :nuts:

[acc521]

With Myer now being its own entity, Target is the "high end" retailer in the Coles group and K-Mart the "low end" retailer. I think you will see Target move up a notch and K-Mart more closely aligned to compete with Big W.

I don't agree with your comments about Myer unless you know something I don't. Everything I have read since Myer became its own entity was that they wanted to compete with DJ at the high end.

[Bonga]

From memory, I once read about a plan to turn K-Mart stores into something like "Coles Superstores" (can't remember the exact name) that include both traditional K-Mart lines and groceries. No idea when that is supposed to occur, or if it is still even under consideration.

[izza]

Wal-Mart!!!!

[Auxodium]

Walmart sell good stuff there! nothing wrong with them! :P

as for the target city store.... i would like that to be spruced up to reflect the flagship store for target, that is what the city should be like with department stores, no matter which one...

[izza]

Good stuff? They sell EVERYTHING. One stop shopping at its best :) nothing wrong with a walmart or 5 in perth

I hate the city target. to narrow.

[Scrawny]

Walmart is evil!!

[izza]

no its not. Id be happy if they came and gobbled up all the IGAs and corner shops. If i wanna go to the shop at 2am and buy bubble warp i should be able to

[Auxodium]

yeah found plenty of what i wanted... id prolly only allow a walmart but nothing else... there has to be control the WA way ;)

[Ipggi]

Wal-Mart!!!!

Maybe a Wal-Mart clone, but Wal-Mart proper has been aligned with Woolworths for many many years.

[Scrawny]

no its not. Id be happy if they came and gobbled up all the IGAs and corner shops. If i wanna go to the shop at 2am and buy bubble warp i should be able to

If you've got the time, this might be worth a read.

http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/192

[izza]

i want the important parts highlighed and a one parragraph summary by tomorrow!

No i kid, ill read it:)

[Scrawny]

Haha. Nah i'm all for choice so I know where you're coming from, but walmart basically comes into an area, run at a loss for 5 or 10 years until all competition (like hardware stores, delis, anything locally owned) in the area is dead and buried.

All the money gets sucked up from the area around it and sent back to arkansas or wherever the headquarters is, and helps the walton family keep 5 places in the top 20 richest people in the world, whilst local working in the store get very ordinary pay and conditions.

[Hossen27]

The moment they combine a Woolworths and a Big W is the day we will have a Wal-Mart. Big W looks so similar to Wal-Mart they are almost indistinguishable. Definitely some cross business relations going on. I actually felt at home in a Wal-Mart cause it was so similar. Though I do not like what Wal-Mart does to communities and small businesses, not that coles and Woolworths are much better.

[Hossen27]

watch this describes very nicely what Wal-Mart does to communities.

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[Dilaz89]

thats sums it up pretty well.

The woolworths business model is comparable to that of Wal Marts. Former CEO Roger Corbett was good mates with the CEO of Wal Mart.

Smeg- a DA was lodged with the PCC for the refubishment of City Central and that included the opening up of more floors.

[Ipggi]

The woolworths business model is comparable to that of Wal Marts. Former CEO Roger Corbett was good mates with the CEO of Wal Mart.

Not only good mates. Since leaving Woolworths the former CEO Roger Corbett is now on the board of directors with Wal Mart.

[miensie]

How about something after new years....?

Sounds good - keep me posted! :)

[Sanj]

I might check it out if you don't need tickets.

im pretty sure u do need tickets as there is some dj from warp records playing as well. im sure they will be available at the door for around 20 bucks.

we always see things like this happening in places like melbourne and say why dont we have it in perth, so i think we should support it.

[miensie]

alvse, I'm thinking of getting a new camera. My current one is a Sony one that's a few years old and was a gift.

My mum has a Nikon Minolta (I think) which is really cool. I would double check but it's in Thailand at the moment.

I want one with a big screen. Other than that, I'm pretty clueless. Pixels, zoom blah blah de blah. Either that or a Sony with a cover that slides up/down.

Can you help?

[acc521]

alvse, I'm thinking of getting a new camera. My current one is a Sony one that's a few years old and was a gift.

My mum has a Nikon Minolta (I think) which is really cool. I would double check but it's in Thailand at the moment.

I want one with a big screen. Other than that, I'm pretty clueless. Pixels, zoom blah blah de blah. Either that or a Sony with a cover that slides up/down.

Can you help?

http://www.canon.com.au/images/big_products/870_is_gold_silver_angle.jpg

http://www.canon.com.au/products/cameras/digital_compact_cameras/digitalixus870is.aspx

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/digitalcameras/0,39005881,44043613p,00.htm

This is the replacement for the camera I bought at the beginning of this year. You can't tell so much from the holiday pics I have posted on here because they are resized and downgraded but it is an excellent camera. I researched extensively and this consistently came up to be the best option.

Small, stylish, big 3" screen, good feature set, simple to use, excellent quality, and a good 28mm wide zoom lens which comes in very handy (that most cameras in this price/size range don't have). If you give me your e-mail I can send you some proper photos to show you what it can do.

From what I can tell, the replacement has actually improved on the one I bought. This just came out about a month ago so you might even be able to get one like mine (860 IS) for quite a bit cheaper if anyone is trying to clear out old stock.

Also keep in mind Canons use SD cards (can get a 4gb for $22 from JB) as opposed to Sony's that use a memory stick (4gb costs $60)

[acc521]

im pretty sure u do need tickets as there is some dj from warp records playing as well. im sure they will be available at the door for around 20 bucks.

we always see things like this happening in places like melbourne and say why dont we have it in perth, so i think we should support it.

Yeah that's what I meant. At the "door" sales are fine. Good chance I'll make it.

[miensie]

Thanks for the suggestion acc :)

Hmmm...giving out my email...are you gonna use it properly? :shifty: LOL is it possible to just PM me some links or photos?

I prefer something a bit more sleek looking, which is why I favour Sony designs. I have a Sony laptop so I know just how annoying/expensive their products can be. But I'm willing to give it a look over, if you say it's really good.

Most photos don't turn out perfect - that's why Photoshop exists :okay:

[alvse]

Nikon Minolta

:lol: funniest thing I've heard all day... you've mixed up 2 competeing brands there :lol:



anyways... if you are looking for a sony (point and shoot I would guess) with a big screen and a slide lens cover... take a look at this one...


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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyt300/

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyT300/Images/sony_t300_3qtr-001.jpg

The Cybershot DSC-T300 is the second generation of touch-screen ultra compacts from electronics colossus Sony. Because it is built around a very small 1/2.3" sensor, Sony has been able to cram a 5x zoom into the slimline body without it ever having occasion to protrude. It's also packed full of the latest special modes and functions, including 'smile shutter,' that only takes a photo once your subject is smiling. The real stand-out feature of this camera is the huge, 16:9 aspect ratio touch screen that covers the entire reverse of the body. So is this beginning of the revolution that will free us from the the hegemony of the four-way controller, or is there a good reason that most cameras are covered in buttons?

Before getting on to that question, let's start with the headline features:

- 10.1 Megapixels and 5x zoom
- Super Steady Shot image stabilization
- Dynamic range optimization
- 3.5" touch-screen control system

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyT300/Images/allroundview-001.jpg

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyT300/Images/sony_t300_inhandfr-001.jpghttp://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyT300/Images/sony_t300_inhandRr-001.jpg

It's refreshing to encounter a 5x zoom camera that has no aspirations to looking like a DSLR. Instead the T300 is one of a handful of 'card' cameras that make perfect sense sitting in a pocket or handbag, but make you look a bit funny when held aloft to compose a shot. In fact, "Are you sure that's a camera?" was one of the comments that it prompted and, in fairness, it doesn't look like, and can't readily be held like, a traditional camera. It feels remarkably solid and well built considering its size though. That huge touch screen will leave you as adept at polishing as at taking photographs, however.


The T300 has a lot of features that will benefit its target audience. Image stabilization and dynamic range optimization will help produce better photographs for the user that is thinking more about capturing the moment rather than assessing the implications of the scene's lighting. There are also some useful post-processing effects (In-camera unsharp masking), as well as the flagrantly gimmicky ones (Apply 'Happy faces').

The touch screen interface has had a lot of thought put into it and, although it takes a little practice, doesn't leave you hankering for a four-way controller. The touch detection autofocus mode is also excellent, giving a high degree of speed and flexibility without having to leave the comfort of the point-and-shoot face detect mode. Unfortunately, its carry-anywhere, seize-the-shot credentials are severely undermined by its poor flash range/metering that can leave your friends looking like tomatoes nailed to a blackboard and a battery life that will have you constantly searching for somewhere to charge it.

[alvse]

my P&S camera is a sony... one of the main reasons is cause it uses the same memory as my DSLR... and previous cameras I have owned in the past.

[acc521]

dpreview is a great site - use it all the time.

These are the main things that turned me off the Sony:
# expensive memory sticks
# Noise reduction that reduces image quality at all settings
# Terrible battery life
# lack of wide angle lens (seriously you don't realise just how much this expands your shooting options until you use it)
# T500 (which has replaced the T300 and is the IS870's equivilent) is $150 more than the Canon

[alvse]

dpreview is a great site.

These are the main things that turned me off the Sony:
# expensive memory sticks
# Noise reduction that reduces image quality at all settings
# Terrible battery life
# lack of wide angle lens (seriously you don't realise just how much this expands your shooting options until you use it)




depends on the camera you are looking at.... I mean... you could say the same things about every other brand out there too... although I would have to agree with you on the memory stick pricing... but that what you get when you buy sony... :lol:

lol...

I guess I am a bit of a sony fanboi :lol:


my first P&S camera was a Canon

Canon IXUS v3 - 2003
Sony H1 - 2006
Sony W80 - 2007
Sony A100 - 2007
Sony A700 - 2008

[miensie]

:lol: funniest thing I've heard all day... you've mixed up 2 competeing brands there :lol:


:tongue2:

Did I not say I was clueless about this? LOL glad I could prove to be of some entertainment value to you, alvse :D


http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyT300/Images/sony_t300_3qtr-001.jpg

The Cybershot DSC-T300 is the second generation of touch-screen ultra compacts from electronics colossus Sony. Because it is built around a very small 1/2.3" sensor, Sony has been able to cram a 5x zoom into the slimline body without it ever having occasion to protrude. It's also packed full of the latest special modes and functions, including 'smile shutter,' that only takes a photo once your subject is smiling. The real stand-out feature of this camera is the huge, 16:9 aspect ratio touch screen that covers the entire reverse of the body. So is this beginning of the revolution that will free us from the the hegemony of the four-way controller, or is there a good reason that most cameras are covered in buttons?

Before getting on to that question, let's start with the headline features:

- 10.1 Megapixels and 5x zoom
- Super Steady Shot image stabilization
- Dynamic range optimization
- 3.5" touch-screen control system


I'm in love. That is perfect. I like the smile function and I like the way it looks. Definitely gonna be checking it out. Early Christmas present to myself? :banana:

Thank you, alvse :hug:

[acc521]

The Canon's noise reduction issues don't really hit until ISO400 and greater though.

I'm not a Canon fanboy either lol, pretty much everything I own is either Sony or Canon. Love both brands.

[Mat_351]

NO MCDONALDS!

what about kfc? gotta let kfc in... :p

great news...

I heard that no new KFC franchises will be issued in WA and existing licenses will not be renewed when they expire...there have already been 3 or 4 close and eventually they will all go.

[acc521]

^^There is a whole story behind that. KFC is not exiting the WA market.

[Auxodium]

lol KFC is removing places? why would that be...

[alvse]

:tongue2:

Did I not say I was clueless about this? LOL glad I could prove to be of some entertainment value to you, alvse :D



I'm in love. That is perfect. I like the smile function and I like the way it looks. Definitely gonna be checking it out. Early Christmas present to myself? :banana:

Thank you, alvse :hug:




If you goto the Sony Central store in the city, they will let you play with one... :)

[Sanj]

^^There is a whole story behind that. KFC is not exiting the WA market.

yup. from what i know kfc are not renewing the franchise agreements they have with the guy who owns hungry jacks and who also has most of the wa kfc franchises. basically they are letting all the agreements run down and then will do it themselves i believe. the franchisee over here even tried to convince the government to get involved.

[Auxodium]

ixus 80IS is good :)

[ryan79]

I can't see KFC dissapearing.

Thats ridiculous.

[acc521]

http://www.smartcompany.com.au/Free-Articles/The-Briefing/20071105-Jack-Cowin-inspires-WA-franchise-inquiry-.html

Jack Cowin inspires WA franchise inquiry
Monday, 5 November 2007

Jacqui Walker

The Western Australian Government has announced the terms of reference for the inquiry into franchising in WA.

The inquiry, which will be chaired by franchisee Chris Bothams, manager of the South East Metro Small Business Centre, follows cries for help from Jack Cowin’s Competitive Foods.

Competitive Foods, worth an estimated $350 million, operates 46 KFC franchises in Western Australia, four in the Northern Territory, as well as 300 Hungry Jack’s outlets around Australia.

SmartCompany reported last week that the world’s biggest fast-food company, US-based Yum Foods International, which owns the KFC brand, is refusing to renew the franchise licenses held by Competitive Foods in Western Australia.

Labor MP Paul Papalia told WA Parliament last week that Yum Foods had offered to buy Competitive Foods’ KFC licences for “significantly less than their market value”.

A spokesman for Competitive Foods told SmartCompany that the offer was rejected but negotiations are continuing. If a deal can’t be reached, Yum will take control of each outlet as its franchise agreement comes to an end. The first licence to expire is the KFC in Rockingham on 19 November.

WA Small Business Minister Margaret Quirk announced the terms of reference of the franchising inquiry on Friday.

The inquiry's terms of reference are to:

* Review the adequacy of existing legislative provisions, both state and federal.
* Identify whether emerging trends in the franchising industry disclose patterns of unconscionable conduct that may not be covered under existing laws.
* Examine whether existing remedies available to franchisees are adequate and, where appropriate, recommend changes.
* Review existing practice in other jurisdictions, Australia and internationally, on unconscionable conduct and renewal of licences.

The inquiry would invite written public submissions, with public hearings scheduled for metropolitan and regional areas over the coming months.

"This inquiry is about fairness in franchise arrangements," Quirk said in a media statement. "I am concerned that existing franchise arrangements in WA may not offer sufficient protection or information to franchise operators who may find themselves in a similar situation.”

David Beddall, chair of the Franchisee Association of Australia, says it is interesting that when a large multi-outlet franchisee asks for action it gets some. “Small individual franchisees face these problems on a daily basis.”

His organisation wrote to Labor and the Government on the day the election was called, seeking a federal parliamentary inquiry into franchising.

He says state law reform would create a situation where each jurisdiction has its own laws. “We don’t want to follow US model where there is different laws in different states, adding to complexity.”

The franchising industry is currently subject to the mandatory Franchise Code under the Trade Practices Act. Earlier this year, the Federal Government accepted some of the recommendations of the Matthews inquiry.

Chris Bothams, the chairman of the inquiry, has twice been awarded the Western Australian Franchisee of the Year, and in 2002 was named the National Franchisee of the Year.

The inquiry will report on 31 March.

Jack Cowin’s dispute with Yum Restaurants over the future of the KFC franchises in Western Australia is not the first time that he has fought an international franchisor for the right to keep operating his franchise business in Australia.

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Cowin went into battle with Burger King, the owner of the Hungry Jack’s franchise in Australia. Burger King tried to enter Australia in its own right selling Burger King franchises to third parties and seeking to terminate its franchise agreement with Cowin.

After years of litigation, in mid-2003 Cowin and Burger King settled, with Burger King agreeing to re-brand 81 Burger King restaurants in New South Wales, Australian Capital Territory and Victoria as Hungry Jack's to create a national network of about 300 restaurants.

[Ipggi]

^^There is a whole story behind that. KFC is not exiting the WA market.

The KFC's in WA and 4 in the NT are owned by Jack Cowin's Competitive Foods. That is same owner/operator of Hungry Jacks, Domino's Pizza, Lone Star Steakhouse and surprisingly Yoshinoya (which he has let idle with 1 store). Jack went up against Burger King a while ago and caused Burger King USA to start operating their own stores on the east coast to compete directly against Hungry Jacks.

Well I guess Yum Restaurants (owner of KFC) have learned from BK's mistakes and are instead just going to let the KFC franchises expire and buy out each WA store individually as they come on the market.

[miensie]

If you goto the Sony Central store in the city, they will let you play with one... :)

I'll be able to take photos and stuff?

Acc, in reply to your PM (I've reached the 100 limit), try Photoshop CS3. That's what I use and it's fantastic. Doesn't reduce the quality of your images and if you know how to use it properly, your photos can look really awesome. Take a look at alvse's stuff for example. That kind of clarity and sharpness in colour can be achieved through PS CS3.

And in regards to the camera, I will check out both. Don't hate me if I end up getting the Sony ok :lol:

[alvse]

I'll be able to take photos and stuff?



Yes... when I bought my P&S W-80 there... the staff let me take the camera and play with it... shoot stuff, go through the options and shit... was really good service imo :lol:

[ryan79]

Take a look at this one.

http://www.sony.com.au/dis/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=34410#

Comes with inbuilt 4gb internal memory. No memory stick needed.

Be great if it had wi-fi for easy transfer of pictures.

I really need a digital photo frame. I have so many photos sitting on my computer at home from Europe and no way to show them. The Sony photo frames look nice. Yeah, I'm a bit of a Sony fanboy.

[acc521]

I'll give it a shot Miensie.

[jez_24]

Sanj what time are you going on Sat?

After last night hearing you and the two Ryans talking about supporting stuff like this I feel like I should go. Plus its something different for me.

[miensie]

Take a look at this one.

Comes with inbuilt 4gb internal memory. No memory stick needed.

Be great if it had wi-fi for easy transfer of pictures.


What is wi-fi, Ryan? Layman terms please :D

Hmmm...not bad but I like this one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Miensie/DSCT77S.jpg
10.1MP 4X OZ 3" TOUCH LCD OIS SILVER DSCT77S

alvse, the one you recommended is not on the website? How does that one ^^ rate?

I'll give it a shot Miensie.

:okay:

[Sanj]

i just spoke to a friend of mine and apparently the exhibition starts at 6 but he seems to think it might be VIP entry from 6-8. then it goes from 8-2am. we'll probably get there sometime between 9 and 10. let me know when u are planning on going, have u got my number?

if i can be arsed ill have a couple of ppl around for some drinks beforehand, will let u know if i do. the music side of things is being put on by a friend of mine so i try and support his gigs when possible.

[alvse]

What is wi-fi, Ryan? Layman terms please :D

Hmmm...not bad but I like this one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Miensie/DSCT77S.jpg
10.1MP 4X OZ 3" TOUCH LCD OIS SILVER DSCT77S

alvse, the one you recommended is not on the website? How does that one ^^ rate?



:okay:



or there is this one...

10.1MP 4X OZ 3.5" TOUCH 4GB OIS SILVER DSCT700S

The T700 is a feature packed camera with a slim and sophisticated design. Featuring 10.1 megapixel resolution, a beautiful wide 3.5" touch-screen LCD, optical SteadyShot and 4GB internal memory, this camera has it all.

http://www.sony.com.au/objects/600x400/DSCT700S.jpg
http://www.sony.com.au/objects/600x400/DSCT700S_3.jpg
http://www.sony.com.au/objects/600x400/DSCT700S_4.jpg

which is essentially the same... has 4GB internal memory... like the one ryan pointed out, but in the slim sexy form you want...

[samboy]

It has some gay sounding foreign name on it. It must be good :lol:

This chair by "Antonio Fettucini'

[nazor]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG SPAMMMMMMMMMMM!

now not only am i pissed off that i clicked this thread thinking there was an update im REALLY hungry for KFC now!

thanks a lot guys! :lol::lol:

[miensie]

I like that one too, alvse :) Will have to print it out so I don't forget :okay:

What are you going on about, samboy?

You mean Carl Zeiss? That's the lens. Sony is the camera.

[samboy]

yeah yeah I know. Just being stupid. But don't underestimate the power of obscure names on merchandise ;)

[alvse]

Carl Zeiss is far from obscure.... well... at least to people into photography :lol:

[Sanj]

It has some gay sounding foreign name on it. It must be good :lol:

This chair by "Antonio Fettucini'


hahahaha samboy with the laughs once again.

i know exactly what u mean tho. there are aussie brands which have italian names and fool ppl into thinking they are from italy.

[miensie]

Carl Zeiss is far from obscure.... well... at least to people into photography :lol:

If you like Sony, you'll most probably know Carl Zeiss :)

[alvse]

The Carl Zeiss company is a German manufacturer of optical systems, industrial measurements and medical devices originally founded in Jena in 1846 by Carl Zeiss, Ernst Abbe, and Otto Schott. Due to the results of World War II there are currently two parts, the Carl Zeiss AG located in Oberkochen with important subsidiaries in Aalen, Göttingen and Hallbergmoos (near Munich) and Carl Zeiss GmbH located in the foundation city Jena.

The organisation is named after one of its founders, the German optician Carl Zeiss (1816–1888).

Carl Zeiss is the premier company of the Zeiss Gruppe, one of the two large divisions of the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung. The Zeiss Gruppe is located in Heidenheim and Jena.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/Zeiss_logo.svg/205px-Zeiss_logo.svg.png


Carl Zeiss is one of the oldest existing optics manufacturers in the world.

[alvse]

I want this lens for christmas... someone buy it for me!!!!

CZ 85MM F1.4 PLANAR T LENS SAL85F14Z $2,299.00

http://www.sony.com.au/objects/600x400/SAL85F14Z.jpg

A brilliant lens for portraits, low light and midrange telephoto shooting. It's a beautiful piece of glass and for intimate or low-light portraits, fashion shots, and quick candid photographs with superior visual accuracy, this professional lens will satisfy the most uncompromising demands. Its performance at fully open aperture is astonishingly precise and its 35mm-equivalent 125.7mm focal length gives you sharp midrange close-ups and natural, distortion-free portraits at relaxed distances.

[jez_24]

Yup Sanj :) I have your number. That would be awesome, thanks. I'll raid your fridge & cupboards while I'm there :lol:

I promise I wont

[miensie]

$2,299 JUST FOR A LENS? :nuts:

You've got to be kidding me.

I would if I had that kinda money to throw around, alvse :D

[ryan79]

What is wi-fi, Ryan? Layman terms please :D

Hmmm...not bad but I like this one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Miensie/DSCT77S.jpg
10.1MP 4X OZ 3" TOUCH LCD OIS SILVER DSCT77S

alvse, the one you recommended is not on the website? How does that one ^^ rate?



:okay:

Wireless networking. So your laptop or wireless home network can pick up your camera and you can transfer files. No wires!

[ryan79]

yeah yeah I know. Just being stupid. But don't underestimate the power of obscure names on merchandise ;)

Or clothes that are 'Made in Italy'

Well umm yeah they could still be shit clothes.

Gotta love marketing. (psst.. they told me to say that)

[jez_24]

I love the way they use french words in cosmetics... then you read the ingredients list and its all industrial silicones and such. Oh lol. A past CEO of Revlon is famous for saying "We don't sell makeup, we sell hope in a bottle"

;) I learnt that in Marketing 100 Ryan79

[miensie]

Wireless networking. So your laptop or wireless home network can pick up your camera and you can transfer files. No wires!

Ah. So like infrared on a mobile. Similar, yes?

[alvse]

Ah. So like infrared on a mobile. Similar, yes?




ummmm.... ok... no... :lol:

[miensie]

ummmm.... ok... no... :lol:

Gah! I give up!

:(

Do I get points for the shot?

:lol:

[alvse]

Gah! I give up!

:(

Do I get points for the shot?

:lol:

ummmm.... ok... no... :lol:

[Auxodium]

can we clean up this thread plz and place the off topic convo in the right place then?

[acc521]

Like your wireless internet.

If was going to buy a Sony I would get the T77. Supposedly it has the best image quality that the T series has seen for a while and is also the slimmest in the range. And it's $130 cheaper at retail.

The wifi is more of a gimmick than a particularly useful feature for most. Especially if you have a Vaio laptop like you said and you can just plug the memory stick just in.

[Nate Von Longneck II]

Ah. So like infrared on a mobile. Similar, yes?


I'm saying yes to that one.

WiFi is radio, infrared is light, but they both achieve the same thing - wireless connectivity/transfer of data.

[samboy]

From a layman's point of view it's essentially the same Miensie. It just means you can xfer data between camera and PC without any 'wires'.
The difference between Infrared and Wifi to put it simply is that with infrared the camera should be facing your PCs IR port and be quite close (10-20cm) whereas with Wifi both devices don't have to be next to each other just the same room/house/vicinity.

[Dilaz89]

ryan- you are confusing wifi with bluetooth.

[alvse]

ryan- you are confusing wifi with bluetooth.




no... you can actually get cameras with wifi built into them now... also... if your camera takes SD... you can get a wifi SD card that allows you to shoot and store the images straight to your PC

[ryan79]

ryan- you are confusing wifi with bluetooth.

What alvse said. Although I'd settle for Bluetooth.

[ryan79]

Like your wireless internet.

If was going to buy a Sony I would get the T77. Supposedly it has the best image quality that the T series has seen for a while and is also the slimmest in the range. And it's $130 cheaper at retail.

The wifi is more of a gimmick than a particularly useful feature for most. Especially if you have a Vaio laptop like you said and you can just plug the memory stick just in.

Not if the camera has built in memory. Then it would be very useful.

I like wireless things. Now if we could only get wireless power :)

[ryan79]

Ah. So like infrared on a mobile. Similar, yes?

:lol:

Yes similar but extreme different underlying architecture.

[Auxodium]

......... multiquote...... SSC servers dont crash and give error 500 errors for nothing you know! :lol:

[Dilaz89]

Vic Park pair brings out The Imp
Food & Wine: 20-November-08 by Anna Moreau



DELIGHTS: Kristan Roche (left) and Chris Sweeney want to bring back quality, inexpensive food on the menu with their new venue, The Imp. Photo: Grant Currall
HOSPITALITY entrepreneurs Kristan Roche and Chris Sweeney are taking Victoria Park a step closer to the vibe of Mount Lawley or Leederville with their first venue, The Imp.

The little cafe-cum-bar was celebrating its sixth week of business when Gusto chatted with the enthusiastic owners, who met while working together in the early days of Cino to Go on King Street, under the tutorage of Geoff Hayward.

The Imp, which refers to the naughty temptations you could fall prey to as you step in the cafe, is located in a former kebab shop at 863 Albany Highway.

Mr Sweeney, who has lived in Victoria Park for 15 years, says there is great potential for the suburb to grow even though there are still more businesses than "destination shops" in the area.

Mr Roche believes the area will grow to be the equal of Perth's top shopping strips in the next few years.

"Victoria Park is the last suburb that hasn't been exploited like Mount Lawley and Leederville...even Mount Hawthorn has a cafe strip now. It's a great area [Victoria Park] with heaps of restaurants," Mr Roche says.

Messrs Roche and Sweeney took over the shop in May last year with the plan to set up a venue that would attract a flow of people all day with breakfast, lunch, coffee and cakes and dinner services.

While counter service will be the go during the day, dinner will have table service and offers a choice of tapas.

The Imp is currently BYO but the owners say they will apply for a restaurant licence in the New Year.

Mr Roche told Gusto they're trying to keep the menu reasonably priced - the tapas menu won't cost over $12 - and build a clientele that comes back several times a week, rather than occasionally.

"You don't have to pay top dollar to get good food...sometimes I hate going out to restaurants because of what they charge," Mr Roche says.

Among the items on The Imp tapas menu are: flat bread with tapenade; deep fried stuffed Jalapenos with raspberry coulis; and crab and goat's cheese empanadas.

The menu changes every four weeks.

The owners say working with Geoff Hayward at Cino to Go was a great way to learn the industry and gave them inspiration to run their own business.

"We have a lot of respect for how he [Geoff Hayward] runs his business, and looking at how he does things gave me inspiration," Mr Roche says.

And they're not the only ones who became inspired after working with Mr Hayward; the founder of MilkD and co founder of Soto, Lorena Tati, had a stint with Mr Hayward as did Alex Cuccovia, who set up Cantina 663 with Michael Forde in Mount Lawley.

There are more plans in the pipeline for The Imp with projects to expand the venue in the near future.

[Scrawny]

Awesome headline!! :lol:

[ryan79]

Bring out the Imp.
Imp's sleeping.
Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake him up now, won't you?

[samboy]

hahaha classic movie!

[miensie]

Sanj, what was that place that you like? Is it Lido's in Cottesloe? What is the address, what time do they shut on weeknights, what is the dress code for dinner and is there a website that I can look at their menu?

ummmm.... ok... no... :lol:

:lol:


If was going to buy a Sony I would get the T77. Supposedly it has the best image quality that the T series has seen for a while and is also the slimmest in the range. And it's $130 cheaper at retail.

The wifi is more of a gimmick than a particularly useful feature for most. Especially if you have a Vaio laptop like you said and you can just plug the memory stick just in.

Well, I have the Vaio laptop and a desktop. Don't really use the Vaio anymore, that was more for when I was at uni.

But thanks for that acc, I do appreciate it. That's 3 very good points you've put across. I want something that produces good images, isn't too ridiculously expensive and is pretty :)

From a layman's point of view it's essentially the same Miensie. It just means you can xfer data between camera and PC without any 'wires'.
The difference between Infrared and Wifi to put it simply is that with infrared the camera should be facing your PCs IR port and be quite close (10-20cm) whereas with Wifi both devices don't have to be next to each other just the same room/house/vicinity.

THANK YOU SAMBOY! From one layman to another eh? I get it now :happy:

[Sanj]

ive actually been to the imp twice. i like what they are going for but the food isnt quite on point yet, not too far off tho. had some pretty good whitebait that was unfortunately a bit soggy etc. still, i like what they are going for and ive had a few good chats with chris, one of the owners. ive actually run into him at fuji the last 3 times ive been there for dinner and each time he has said that they are really busy and doing well, which is good to see.


miensie - il lido is on marine pde next to il gelato. it is on the corner, close to indiana i believe. dress is casual. last i checked their menu wasnt available on a website. what i sometimes do is to ask a restaurant to fax me a copy of their menu if possible, u could try that i guess if necessary. no idea what time they close, their number is 92861111. another good option is galileo in shenton park, which i can recommend wholeheartedly as ive probably been there around 15 times. definitely my favourite italian restaurant in perth.

[ryan79]

Whitebait as a meal? I dunno about that. Guess I'd have to try it.

[miensie]

miensie - il lido is on marine pde next to il gelato. it is on the corner, close to indiana i believe. dress is casual. last i checked their menu wasnt available on a website. what i sometimes do is to ask a restaurant to fax me a copy of their menu if possible, u could try that i guess if necessary. no idea what time they close, their number is 92861111. another good option is galileo in shenton park, which i can recommend wholeheartedly as ive probably been there around 15 times. definitely my favourite italian restaurant in perth.

Hmmm...how casual is casual? Jeans casual? Is Il Lido as pretty as Indiana's? I want a place that has a nice feel to it.

Italian! I love love Italian food. Could I get all the info on Galileo then please?

Thanks Sanj :)

[Sanj]

yeah whitebait can be a nice little snack, not a main course tho. im seeing it served at more places. even il lido has it.


old canton - went there last night, was disappointed. pretty limited menu after the food had been talked up a fair bit on my initial visit. not a single vegetarian option so my mate couldnt have anything. $9.50 for a bombay and tonic, which completely put me off because that surely is taking the piss. they brought out some free food which was ok actually. the chicken tasted a lot like karaage but wasnt battered and so had a different texture. taste was ok tho. also, i liked that little outdoor bit but it did seem disjointed from the inside - murals etc outside but the inside was a whole different vibe.

still i do think there is potential, but the menu needs a lot of work and the drink prices need to come down a bit.

[Sanj]

Hmmm...how casual is casual? Jeans casual? Is Il Lido as pretty as Indiana's? I want a place that has a nice feel to it.

Italian! I love love Italian food. Could I get all the info on Galileo then please?

Thanks Sanj :)

yeah jeans are fine at either place.

galileo is run by una and vince, but ive only met vince briefly. i think they both used to work at campo di fiori but i could be wrong.

really good rustic italian food. nothing ground breaking but no cliched/generic dishes there either, ie no carbonara, bolognese etc.

a lot of their dishes are cooked in the woodfired oven. a smallish menu that has quite a few daily specials. their carpaccio is really good along with a whole host of other dishes that i could recommend. from memory, no main is over $30 which is really good for perth, considering the quality of the food. una is really helpful too and in the past when i havent been able to decide she has given me a half serve of 2 mains etc. she has also pre-ordered some meat for me when i have called her up wanting to have her woodfired piglet special. little touches like this are hard to get elsewhere. i always leave there with a smile on my face. on occasion service can be slow but it is fine the majority of the time. the only very slight criticism i have of the place is that the food has sometimes been slightly over seasoned, but im talking maybe 3 out of 25 meals or so (including takeaways that i have done)

[acc521]

$9.50 - what a joke!

This is an inevitability of our current licencing laws though. Only those with significant $$$ are being able to open places up and the inevitably are aiming at the "high end" with prices to match. 1907, The George, Old Canton - all high end places.

[Sanj]

yeah but 1907 and the george can pull it off. this place cant. there is no point of difference that justifies those prices.

[miensie]

yeah jeans are fine at either place.

galileo is run by una and vince, but ive only met vince briefly. i think they both used to work at campo di fiori but i could be wrong.

really good rustic italian food. nothing ground breaking but no cliched/generic dishes there either, ie no carbonara, bolognese etc.

a lot of their dishes are cooked in the woodfired oven. a smallish menu that has quite a few daily specials. their carpaccio is really good along with a whole host of other dishes that i could recommend. from memory, no main is over $30 which is really good for perth, considering the quality of the food. una is really helpful too and in the past when i havent been able to decide she has given me a half serve of 2 mains etc. she has also pre-ordered some meat for me when i have called her up wanting to have her woodfired piglet special. little touches like this are hard to get elsewhere. i always leave there with a smile on my face. on occasion service can be slow but it is fine the majority of the time. the only very slight criticism i have of the place is that the food has sometimes been slightly over seasoned, but im talking maybe 3 out of 25 meals or so (including takeaways that i have done)

But would I be out of place in a dress? Not as in ball gown/cocktail dress but a day dress.

What is the number for Galileo?

How is the dessert menu? At both places?

[jez_24]

I think there's some weight to the argument that more expensive drink prices limit binge drinking on a premises, so you don't get so many drunk dickheads ruining your night. Plus it encourages an older and more sophisticated crowd. However I do like to get value for my $$ especially since I don't have a lot of it. I'd still go for a few drinks there if the atmosphere is right.

[Sanj]

But would I be out of place in a dress? Not as in ball gown/cocktail dress but a day dress.

What is the number for Galileo?

How is the dessert menu? At both places?

nah u would be fine. what u worried about? paparazzi? :lol: one is in shenton park, the other in cottesloe. there are bound to be some ppl dressed up a bit but neither place is formal. il lido is probably a little bit more casual but that would be due to its beachside vibe i think.

dessert menu is probably a bit better at il lido. their 2 best desserts would be the ricotta fritters and tiramisu. i normally would never order a tiramisu but i had a really good meal and so when it was recommended i decided to trust the kitchen and hope it was good. it definitely was.

93823343 ius the number for galileo. u need to book a bit in advance for weekend nights etc.

[acc521]

I doubt you're going to get drunk dickheads going to a place like Old Canton even if the prices were more in line with what is reasonable.

[miensie]

nah u would be fine. what u worried about? paparazzi? :lol: one is in shenton park, the other in cottesloe. there are bound to be some ppl dressed up a bit but neither place is formal. il lido is probably a little bit more casual but that would be due to its beachside vibe i think.

dessert menu is probably a bit better at il lido. their 2 best desserts would be the ricotta fritters and tiramisu. i normally would never order a tiramisu but i had a really good meal and so when it was recommended i decided to trust the kitchen and hope it was good. it definitely was.

93823343 ius the number for galileo. u need to book a bit in advance for weekend nights etc.

LOL I just don't like to be over/under-dressed. It's bad form. That's just me.

Ricotta as dessert?!

Thanks Sanj, buddy. I will call both places and go from there :okay:

[Sanj]

im pretty sure canolis are made with ricotta.

[miensie]

Sanj, Galileo looks good. Should I book a table? It's for a weeknight.

[Sanj]

well if u like rustic italian food i think that's yr best bet. i would recommend booking. i think they are open from tuesday to saturday.

[miensie]

well if u like rustic italian food i think that's yr best bet. i would recommend booking. i think they are open from tuesday to saturday.

Will do.

Thanks Sanj, really. I was in a bit of a conundrum as to where to go as I have someone fussy to think about :lol:

Problem solved :banana:

Will let you know what I think about it.

[ryan79]

I don't mind paying a high price for drinks if the place is worth it and I'm not out for a blinder.

The Casino on the other hand....

[Dilaz89]

Sanj, "Alcopops" sold in clubs are now $9 -$11.

$9.50 does seem pricey for a pretty basic drink though.

[samboy]

Sanj, "Alcopops" sold in clubs are now $9 -$11.

$9.50 does seem pricey for a pretty basic drink though.

bloody hell! It just shows when was the last time I was at a club ;)

I'm surprised people can afford to get drunk these days. It'll be interesting to know how much of people's incomes goes to alcohol.

[Dilaz89]

I rarely go out these days due to the cost of having a night out. Can sometimes reach $150.

Me and my freinds get hotels rooms now so we can drink as much of our own drinks as we want, party on using the hotels facilities and don't have to worry about transport or anything. We're staying at the Broadwater Como next week in a room with two spas at a cost of $100 ea.

[Sanj]

that is ridiculous if $11 is being charged for alcopops. mind u, why do ppl drink them?

i still think there is no justification for a $9.50 bommbay and tonic. i know i paid less than that at devilles, which would have cost a lot more to get a license for and to set up as well.

[Dilaz89]

I used to drink those Smirnoff twists at clubs becuase they'd keep me pissed and i wouldn't feel sick. i don't bother with those now.

[crazyknightsfan]

that is ridiculous if $11 is being charged for alcopops. mind u, why do ppl drink them?

They taste good? ;)

[samboy]

that is ridiculous if $11 is being charged for alcopops. mind u, why do ppl drink them?

i still think there is no justification for a $9.50 bommbay and tonic. i know i paid less than that at devilles, which would have cost a lot more to get a license for and to set up as well.

I only paid a couple of bucks more for a bombay and tonic at the 'lost in translation' bar in Tokyo (the name of the hotel slipped my mind). hmmm... some dodgy bar in Perth or the magnificent views of Tokyo? tough choice. Sort of puts it in perspective.

[Sanj]

yeah that does put it in perspective. i think the fact that on average i spent less on a meal in tokyo than i do in perth also put things in perspective. or the fact that i had one of the best fish dishes ive ever had in my life at rockpool in sydney earlier this year, and it cost less than what places like the red herring charge.

this is at rockpool, which has been in the worlds top 50 restaurants for a number of years.

[perthgazer]

$9-$10 is standard these days, im more than used to paying it, not that i really like doing it.

A lot of places charge up to $15 for a red bull and vodka!

[samboy]

I'm glad I got it out of my system when drinks cost $4-5.

[Dilaz89]

sanj- the red herring should be burned down. I've had nightmares about that place ever since I went there for my cousins wedding and was sick for 4 days after.

cliche drink 'jager bombs' are around $16 bucks in clubs.

[crazyknightsfan]

$9-10?!

In Sydney its about $6.50 for house spirits & mixer

[Sanj]

samboy i would've thought it was when drinks were still in pence and shillings? ;)

[samboy]

16! for jager is daylight robbery. I've never had it myself but when I was living in Asia jager was the cheapest shit you could buy (foreign brand). Someone's making akilling along the chain that's for sure

[samboy]

samboy i would've thought it was when drinks were still in pence and shillings? ;)

hahaha I knew I left myself wide open.

[crazyknightsfan]

The rip off is the red bull - retails for $2.50 a can here but they will charge you $7 or more for the can at a pub/club

Of course they make profits on shots though

[miensie]

samboy i would've thought it was when drinks were still in pence and shillings? ;)

:rofl:

[acc521]

What a joke. Even in HK a night out cost me just over half of what it cost here.

What I find interesting is when you look at reviews for places in London, Hong Kong, NYC etc. You find a place that is criticised for being too expensive and then realise that the "expensive" place is no more and usually a bit cheaper than an "expensive" place here, and like Sanj said, the quality of the venue over there is much higher.

[miensie]

We're back here again. Guys, can we really compare Perth to places like Hong Kong and New York?

[acc521]

That's the point though isn't it? The places here aren't exactly comparable yet the prices are higher. If you find a comparable place, the prices here are significantly more expensive.

I blame the restrictive, red tape ridden, costly licensing regime and people's willingness in this city to throw money away. If I owned a venue and could get away with charging those kind of prices, I know I would.

[ryan79]

What a joke. Even in HK a night out cost me just over half of what it cost here.

What I find interesting is when you look at reviews for places in London, Hong Kong, NYC etc. You find a place that is criticised for being too expensive and then realise that the "expensive" place is no more and usually a bit cheaper than an "expensive" place here, and like Sanj said, the quality of the venue over there is much higher.

London is really cheap as to get drunk in. I was shocked when I came back and went on a night out. Plus in London the potential to earn more money is there while here (for us professionals at least) its really hard to earn a great wage.

[ryan79]

That's the point though isn't it? The places here aren't exactly comparable yet the prices are higher. If you find a comparable place, the prices here are significantly more expensive.

I blame the restrictive, red tape ridden, costly licensing regime and people's willingness in this city to throw money away. If I owned a venue and could get away with charging those kind of prices, I know I would.

Yep.

But really the only choice you have in Perth is spend a lot or stay home. Wonder why we are called dullsville and have a major drug problem?

[stadiumdesigner]

jagerbombs are at such a price moreso to deter binge drinking more than anything...if you think about it, they are getting a shot of imported 40 percent liquer, and half a can of redbull. so lets say 8.50 and 2.50...if we look at the going price for a shot and half can...that extra 4-6 bucks is the deterrant.

you wouldnt believe how many times i lined up 15+ jagerbombs when i was working at the raffles...its easy to see that if it seems cheap, people will go crazy with them

[Nate Von Longneck II]

A pint of beer upstairs at the Flying Scotsman is now $10.

Sad to see even beer is a double-digit drink.

Hip flask all the way from now on... "can I have a jug of tonic water and a lemon please?" haha

[Scraperfan]

Whats upstairs at the Scotsman, when is it open?

I went there the other sunday and seemed as if only the lower level was open.

[crazyknightsfan]

Hip flask all the way from now on... "can I have a jug of tonic water and a lemon please?" haha

That's not a bad idea...

Most people I know tend to binge at home/friends place + on the train/bus/taxi before reaching the club in the city to avoid paying exhorbitant prices. So I think it makes the problem even worse...

[samboy]

I'm working on a drink called 'self esteem'. Only one is required.

[Dilaz89]

I used to use a hip flask until one night it leaked and I had black sambuca all over my jeans.

The feeling of taking a hip flask in to clubs is great. Knowing you are ripping off people who rip you off.

[Auxodium]

We're back here again. Guys, can we really compare Perth to places like Hong Kong and New York?

can by steins of beer in NYC for like 6 dollars and gives you at least 2L of beer lol

[Sanj]

for anyone who is going to the laneway party (ie jez and acc), i have just had a call from someone saying it will now end at 12. i dont have the full story but apparently CoP were happy with 2am but liquor license folks werent.

so dont head down too late.

[city_thing]

A pint of beer upstairs at the Flying Scotsman is now $10.

Sad to see even beer is a double-digit drink.

Hip flask all the way from now on... "can I have a jug of tonic water and a lemon please?" haha

What the fuck?

Do they still do $7 jugs on Wednesdays?

The Scotsman used to be great years ago when it was mostly students and old alcos that went there. Last time I went there it was full of emos, yuppies and zealous bouncers that never seemed to notice the lack of outdoor seating.

[Auxodium]

but you know if we are foolish and go out and pay for these stupid prices for things they think it will be alright and continue to raise the price... that pisses me off and i swear most places outside of Perth are realistic when it comes to beverages...and pricings

[jackso]

but you know if we are foolish and go out and pay for these stupid prices for things they think it will be alright and continue to raise the price... that pisses me off and i swear most places outside of Perth are realistic when it comes to beverages...and pricings

So we just stay home and not go out?

Fun fun fun.

[ryan79]

So we just stay home and not go out?

Fun fun fun.

And thats what a lot of people do further adding to our dullsville tag.

Sad.

[Auxodium]

no, why would i give them money when clearly it is a rip off... i enjoy sharing a drink or 3 with my mates and socialising and entertaining. That is my answer to the shit they call northbridge and co

[Ipggi]

but you know if we are foolish and go out and pay for these stupid prices for things they think it will be alright and continue to raise the price... that pisses me off and i swear most places outside of Perth are realistic when it comes to beverages...and pricings

Have you ever thought that prices rise due to the operating costs increasing? Could you please give me some examples of 'most places outside of Perth are realistic when it comes to beverages'? And don't use overseas examples because you can't compare due to exchange rates and different liquor taxations. Because honestly I've found alcohol is generally the same price everywhere, its more dependent on the venue and it's proximity rather then the city that it is contained in.

[ryan79]

no, why would i give them money when clearly it is a rip off... i enjoy sharing a drink or 3 with my mates and socialising and entertaining. That is my answer to the shit they call northbridge and co

I agree with you which is why I am saying it adds to our dullsville tag.

You either get ripped off or stay home. Theres no choice.

[ryan79]

Have you ever thought that prices rise due to the operating costs increasing? Could you please give me some examples of 'most places outside of Perth are realistic when it comes to beverages'? And don't use overseas examples because you can't compare due to exchange rates and different liquor taxations. Because honestly I've found alcohol is generally the same price everywhere, its more dependent on the venue and it's proximity rather then the city that it is contained in.

Well I haven't been over east for a while now so I don't know.

But almost every pub you go to here now charges around 10 bucks for a pint. Drink prices have been steadily going up for the past couple of years now.

So maybe you can tell me if thats comparable.

And wheather its the venues profiteering or government regulations or increased costs its still a rip off.

[Dilaz89]

I noticed drinks in melbourne were a couple of dollars cheaper then they are here.

[Ipggi]

Well I haven't been over east for a while now so I don't know.

But almost every pub you go to here now charges around 10 bucks for a pint. Drink prices have been steadily going up for the past couple of years now.

So maybe you can tell me if thats comparable.

And wheather its the venues profiteering or government regulations or increased costs its still a rip off.

Okay at $10 for a pint, Perth does seem a bit too expensive. I know I can go to James Squire Brewhouse on Kings Street Wharf [ie on the Harbour], and it is one of the rare establishments in NSW that serve pints, and that is $8. But saying that you could go to a bar (such as Justin Hemmes's Ivy) on Saturday night and pay the same price for a schooner (425mL glass). Generally though a schooner costs probably anywhere from $3.8 in a suburban pub or RSL to $4-6 dollars in an inner or city bar. Depending on the establishment it is and what time of day it is.

I guess labour costs and the lack of pokies also must drive up prices. Many establishments over here would go broke without their pokies, but at the same time the pokies subsidies in many bars and pubs help keep the general drink prices down through more competition. WA is the only state without pokies and it also seems to be the state with the most expensive drinks?

[ryan79]

Well IF pokies were the case, which they may well be, then I'd much rather pay more for my drinks.

[miensie]

Does anyone know roughly how long Rubi Shoes has been open?

They're opposite the pen shop (T. Sharp?) and next to David Lawrence I believe. Corner of Barrack Street and Hay Street Mall.

[samboy]

1 week (why do I know this stuff?? it's embarassing ;))

[miensie]

1 week (why do I know this stuff?? it's embarassing ;))

WHAT?!

Out of all the people I thought might reply, you were the last I thought of samboy. How the hell do you know that and I don't?! :nuts:

I go past this EVERYDAY on the way to work and yet don't notice.

[samboy]

I might be an old bastard but a very observant one at that ;) ....also I have nothing better to do.

[miensie]

I might be an old bastard but a very observant one at that ;) ....also I have nothing better to do.

LOL you're not old, samboy. Besides you work in the city, no? Is it men's or women's shoes?

[samboy]

naaah I don't work in the city but often go for coffee/lunch. Not 100% sure but it looked like women's from outside. The name seems to indicate that too. Judging from signage and fitout (or lack of) it doesn't seem to be that upmarket.
Also, Dotti has just relocated next door and something else opening right next to it.
Now I'm getting borderline 'gay' so I'll shut up :)

[miensie]

naaah I don't work in the city but often go for coffee/lunch. Not 100% sure but it looked like women's from outside. The name seems to indicate that too. Judging from signage and fitout (or lack of) it doesn't seem to be that upmarket.
Also, Dotti has just relocated next door and something else opening right next to it.
Now I'm getting borderline 'gay' so I'll shut up :)

Hmm...I'll have to check it out.

Next door to what? Rubi Shoes? Or next door to where it used to be?

[Sanj]

naaah I don't work in the city but often go for coffee/lunch. Not 100% sure but it looked like women's from outside. The name seems to indicate that too. Judging from signage and fitout (or lack of) it doesn't seem to be that upmarket.
Also, Dotti has just relocated next door and something else opening right next to it.
Now I'm getting borderline 'gay' so I'll shut up :)


hey samboy what are the names of madonnas first five top 10 singles, backwards?

[miensie]

hey samboy what are the names of madonnas first five top 10 singles, backwards?

:rofl:

He'll know it too.

But he'll just say he doesn't ;)

[Ipggi]

Rubi Shoes is a new franchise only 6 months or so old and operated by the same people as Cotton On. Judging from the interweb it seems to be female only.

[Dilaz89]

samboy- are you talking about the corner shop that used to be a day spa?

[samboy]

Next door to what? Rubi Shoes? Or next door to where it used to be?


Yeah 3 stores next to each other - Ruby- Dotti - Something new. If I'm not mistaken the old Dotti on Murray st is being turned into the Levis store. Someone here mentioned that.

hey samboy what are the names of madonnas first five top 10 singles, backwards?

just wait til I get my hands on you :lol: I think I lost my virginity to one.

samboy- are you talking about the corner shop that used to be a day spa?

Correct., that's now Ruby and everytime I've walked past it, it's been packed! That's the front section anyway. The back section along barrack street has been closed off and possibly leasing separately.


Bloody hell I'm on a roll today. I feel like Miensie with the multi quotes. Sanj I bet you can't do that...I dare ya.

[ryan79]

naaah I don't work in the city but often go for coffee/lunch. Not 100% sure but it looked like women's from outside. The name seems to indicate that too. Judging from signage and fitout (or lack of) it doesn't seem to be that upmarket.
Also, Dotti has just relocated next door and something else opening right next to it.
Now I'm getting borderline 'gay' so I'll shut up :)

OUT has gotten to you mate.

[miensie]

Rubi Shoes is a new franchise only 6 months or so old and operated by the same people as Cotton On. Judging from the interweb it seems to be female only.

Just how do you know all this stuff, Ipggi?


Bloody hell I'm on a roll today. I feel like Miensie with the multi quotes.

Well done samboy! :banana2:

OUT has gotten to you mate.

:lol: Just cos you read it don't mean he does :tongue2:

[samboy]

OUT has gotten to you mate.

I'm thinking of getting a subscription. The greasy copies at Betty's just don't it for me any more.

[Sanj]

hey miensie, when r u going to galileo? a friend of mine told me yesterday their menu has just changed or is just about to. apparently they have a great pork dish on at the moment too.

[miensie]

hey miensie, when r u going to galileo? a friend of mine told me yesterday their menu has just changed or is just about to. apparently they have a great pork dish on at the moment too.

Tomorrow night, Sanj. I'm really looking forward to it and if I'm disappointed, it'll all be on your head. Be warned :tongue2:

Which reminds me, I need to book a table! :hammer:

[Sanj]

haha fair enough. i havent been there in 6 months but i would be very surprised if u dont enjoy it.

so have u worked out how u are not going to underdress or overdress? i should have told u it was either really casual or really formal, would have been funny to hear u whinge about it the next day.

[miensie]

haha fair enough. i havent been there in 6 months but i would be very surprised if u dont enjoy it.

so have u worked out how u are not going to underdress or overdress? i should have told u it was either really casual or really formal, would have been funny to hear u whinge about it the next day.

6 months? I thought you really like the place?

Hah! As if I would go on your word alone, Sanj. I'm onto you, boy-o ;) I double checked on the net and it's smart-casual. Still not sure yet what I'm wearing though.

So nah :tongue2:

:lol:

[Sanj]

i do really like the place. the last 6 months ive been pretty careful with money and most of my meals out have been pretty cheap and on the odd occasion i spent a bit more it was often to try a place i hadnt been to yet etc.

i am definitely due another visit there tho.

[ryan79]

I'm thinking of getting a subscription. The greasy copies at Betty's just don't it for me any more.

If only they had an internet forum. We'd lose 3 quarters of the people on here.

[miensie]

Sanj, I was just at Shenton Park. Is Galileo's in between Shenton Park Shopping Centre and Star Anise? Somewhere in the middle of the two; near the salmon brick coloured place?

[samboy]

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[miensie]

LOL thanks for that samboy - you're really getting into it now aren't you? Embedding first images then streetviews; doing multi-quotes...what next? :D

It looks a bit different to that now. I want to know where it is exactly :D

Hey Sanj, while we're on the topic of Star Anise, what kinda food is it? I personally don't like the taste of star anise...I know you rate it though.

[Sanj]

well star anise isnt my favourite spice but it is necessary i guess in some food. i dont mind it. i assume u mean that u dont liek the taste of the spice star anise, as opposed to the restaurant?

ive only been once to the restaurant star anise, i would like to go again.

basically it is the sort of food that was pioneered by cheong liew at the grange in adelaide and made very popular by neil perry at rockpool. it is hard to pigeonhole but i guess modern australian is what ppl used to call it altho the term has been bastardized.

basically star anise is very modern in the presentation of food, in the fact that it is not heavy and in techniques used but it also has an asian influence running thru the food. david coomer (the chef/owner of star anise) is a fan of marrying asian flavours with modern "western" techniques of cooking, like neil perry in sydney or even ppl like ezard in melbourne (very good restaurant too).

for me the food at star anise was very good but the service did not match the food. it certainly wasnt crap service, but in my opinion it was no where near as high a standard as the food.

they do ala carte as well as degustation so u dont have to sit thru the whole degustation if u not in the mood etc

it is hard to describe but the best i can do is to say modern techniques and presentation with a distinct asian influence.

worth trying.

[Sanj]

i should have just checked their website, they do a much better (and shorter) job of describing


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