http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Schalke_04.png/150px-Schalke_04.png
FC Schalke 04

7x Champion:
1934, 1935, 1937, 1939, 1940,
1942, 1958

5x Cup Winner:
1937, 1972, 2001, 2002, 2011

1x Supercup:
2011

1x UEFA Europe League:
1997



I guess this is one of a kind. Biathlon in a football stadium. Since a few years a Biathlon competition is held successfully in the Veltins Arena in Gelsenkirchen. This year it was sold out with 52,000 people.

Areal view:
http://www.ict4us.com/gm-de/veltinsarena.htm

I found some nice pictures:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6116/schalke061230wtc01oz1.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9214/schalke061230wtc05wx7.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1741/schalkesportbiathlonhu3.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3732/schalkemeldeterstenschnuz1.jpg

outside the arena:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/145/schalkeprogramm2xlyz0.jpg

coming into the arena...
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2340/schalkefoto2xlqk0.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2807/schalkefoto4xlqp9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6818/schalkebiathlon400cj4.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7743/schalke060901grossav9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3982/schalkefoto6xlxr9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3514/schalkefoto5xlyk7.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2856/schalke061230wtc12an9.jpg

So how long is the skiing course? If they are coming in to the stadium there must be a bit outside somewhere?

So how long is the skiing course? If they are coming in to the stadium there must be a bit outside somewhere?

You can see a bit of the course in the very first picture. One round is 1264 meters. I also found an outdoor picture that I put into my first post and this:

http://www.biathlon-aufschalke.de/media/streckenplan.jpg

Snow is brought from an indoor ski-arena in Neuss (http://www.biathlon-aufschalke.de/frame.php?content=programm_schnee&mnr=1).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/6/6d/FC_Schalke_04_Logo.svg/120px-FC_Schalke_04_Logo.svg.png

http://e.imagehost.org/0405/veltins3.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0424/veltins7.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0003/veltins2.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0805/veltins4.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0010/veltins6.jpg

http://e.imagehost.org/0199/veltins5.jpg

Concert
http://e.imagehost.org/0218/veltins.jpg

Biathlon
http://e.imagehost.org/0311/veltins8.jpg

Stock Car
http://e.imagehost.org/0615/veltins9.jpg

Maybe the arena will host the opening game of the 2010 IIHF World Championship. The capacity would be 78,000 (new world record)
http://e.imagehost.org/0819/veltins10.jpg

^^
How are they going to get 78.000 into the Arena? Where will the extra seats be?

^^
How are they going to get 78.000 into the Arena? Where will the extra seats be?

According to stadionwelt.de the interior of the stadium could be increased to create enough space for the extra seating

Interesting. That would be amazing!

But distance between seats and ice might make event uncomfortable to watch.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/2450221740_6e2b4ab4cb_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2184/2449398029_5f1440fd5b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2450221076_f5841cd275_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/2450220786_c80631b51f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2450221402_1daec9976d_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2450222080_f4196b2b38_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/delos7/page3/

I really love this stadium.,,it is big enough, great sidelines, the retractable roof, THE TERRACE, a great example of how a modern, safe stadium can still get a terrace for the real fans.

only the outside is not that good but does the job.

my only question is why there are so many entrance or access gates ( of whatever is called) on the upper deck, seems excessive for a tier that is not that big. a lot of seats could be added. the lower tier is bigger and has only one row of entrace gates....

in a fast estimate, each gate, takes about 77 seats,,, that multiplied by 40 gates all around, gives you 3080 seats.

^^
in a fast estimate, each gate, takes about 77 seats,,, that multiplied by 40 gates all around, gives you 3080 seats.
There are to many entrances.
I counted 650 seats for each gate and multiplied by 40 gives a total capacity of 26000 on the second tier...so 3080 isn't that much.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/2450221740_6e2b4ab4cb_b.jpg


Those shadows would be extremely annoying on a sunny day.

2nd tier is small, but it has got "2 exits"

impressive arena :bow:

2nd tier is small, but it has got "2 exits"

There are 2 different price ranges for each exit, so maybe better facilities as well as an improved view.

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_stadionplan_2008.gif.gif

Here is a picture of the world record crowd for a team handball game in the match between THW Kiel and TBV Lemgo in 2004 with 30,925 spectators

http://e.imagehost.org/0043/handball.jpg

Very beautiful stadium. One of my favorite stadiums in Europe. I just wish that they would put seats in those standing rows areas. It would look much better if all the sections were filed in with the blue seats.

Very beautiful stadium. One of my favorite stadiums in Europe. I just wish that they would put seats in those standing rows areas. It would look much better if all the sections were filed in with the blue seats.

It can be done, and as I remember seats cover those terrace areas, during UEFA, or international matches, also during the 2006 World Cup.

Still i think is more of a blessing to have standing areas in a stadium, is better for the athmosphere and fans wallets

absolutely right. i am strictly against all-seater stadiums. but for the look, they could maybe paint the terraces in blue ;)

here as an example, terraces in offenbach (in the background. relegated to 3rd league now):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Diba_stadion_offenbach_06.JPG/800px-Diba_stadion_offenbach_06.JPG

^^
Or here at the Gründwalder Stadion in Munich :lol:

http://www.tz-online.de/media/images_redakteure/sport/mehrsport/alteordnermehrsport/2008_februar_mehrsport/2008_kw08_mehrsport/grnwalder_stadion_356_475px.jpg
http://www.tz-online.de/de/sport/mehrsport/artikel_33251.html

I like it just the way it is.It doesn't need any painting.

absolutely right. i am strictly against all-seater stadiums. but for the look, they could maybe paint the terraces in blue ;)

here as an example, terraces in offenbach (in the background. relegated to 3rd league now):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Diba_stadion_offenbach_06.JPG/800px-Diba_stadion_offenbach_06.JPG

I am really against terraces.. they are really dangerous for the crowd.. specially women and children.. i will never forget the children smashed in a terrace in argentina..

Here is a picture of the world record crowd for a team handball game in the match between THW Kiel and TBV Lemgo in 2004 with 30,925 spectators

http://e.imagehost.org/0043/handball.jpg

Looks like the setup often used in American football stadiums for the NCAA Basketball Final Four (and University of Syracuse basketball, who play their games in the Carrier Dome, an indoor football stadium).

Here is a picture of the world record crowd for a team handball game in the match between THW Kiel and TBV Lemgo in 2004 with 30,925 spectators

http://e.imagehost.org/0043/handball.jpg

eh thats old school.

this is new school, in Reliant stadium

http://blog.svconline.com/briefingroom/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ncaa_2008_01_.jpg

but seriously, nice stadium

U2 live at Veltins Arena in front of 59,120 people (June 12, 2005 - Vertigo Tour):

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5586/gelsen7mb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/gelsen7mb1.jpg/1/w550.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img525/gelsen7mb1.jpg/1/)

Vox

It was now officially confirmed that the opening game of the 2010 IIHF World Championship will be played at Veltins Arena. Capacity: 76,000

http://e.imagehost.org/0111/news_eishockey_arena.jpg
veltins-arena.de (http://www.veltins-arena.de/news_eishockey_wmaufschalke.php)

The seats at the groundfloor are hopefully for free... :shifty:

Omg not steep at all :/

It was now officially confirmed that the opening game of the 2010 IIHF World Championship will be played at Veltins Arena. Capacity: 76,000

http://e.imagehost.org/0111/news_eishockey_arena.jpg
veltins-arena.de (http://www.veltins-arena.de/news_eishockey_wmaufschalke.php)

Looks like the new midfield makeshift seating method is catching on!

http://www.detnews.com/graphics/2008/0325fordfield.jpg

Hope they can handle it better, than they did with Speedway GP :bash:

It was now officially confirmed that the opening game of the 2010 IIHF World Championship will be played at Veltins Arena. Capacity: 76,000

http://e.imagehost.org/0111/news_eishockey_arena.jpg
veltins-arena.de (http://www.veltins-arena.de/news_eishockey_wmaufschalke.php)

Any possibility to lower the field compared when in football mode?
And how will the ice cope with the outdoor temperatures in Gelsenkirchen in the beginning of May?

Looks like the new midfield makeshift seating method is catching on!

http://www.detnews.com/graphics/2008/0325fordfield.jpg

That is just completely absurd...

i love this stadium :)

i was only one time in veltins arena, on speedway grand prix, second time they...didn't do the track good, and the meeting was canceled :S i had a pleasure to be on speedway track which was built in 2007, and the view on thousands chairs is amazing :)

The ticket sale started a few days ago, 30,000 tickets are already sold.

The ticket sale started a few days ago, 30,000 tickets are already sold.


edit: number of sold tickets: 60,000 +

This is a great stadium, it hosted the second best Champions League Final, the best CL final was hosted by Ernst Happel Stadium in Vienna.

This is a great stadium, it hosted the second best Champions League Final, the best CL final was hosted by Ernst Happel Stadium in Vienna.

:cheers:

Any possibility to lower the field compared when in football mode?
And how will the ice cope with the outdoor temperatures in Gelsenkirchen in the beginning of May?

the field is lower than the football field. the reason is that the footbal field can drive out complete with grass (as you can see in the pictures 4 and 5 of post#6!), and the final level is 4m under the football level...

Very beautiful stadium :cheers:

The figth between Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye (June 20, 2009) will be held in the Veltins-Arena. With ca. 60,000 people it would be the third biggest boxing fight in Germany ever.

1. Max Schmeling – Walter Neusel | 102,000 | (26.8.1934 in Hamburg)
2. Max Schmeling – Adolf Heuser | 70,000 | (2.7.1939 in Stuttgart)
3. Wladimir Klitschko - David Haye | 60,000 | (20.7.2009 in Gelsenkirchen)
4. "Bubi" Scholz – Harald Johnson | 45,000 | (23.6.1962 in Berlin)
5. Max Schmeling – Walter Neusel | 40,000 | (23.5.1948 in Hamburg)

Too much snow for the roof :weird:

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fotos/FOTO-GALERIEN-R/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/dach-der-veltins-arena-eingestuerzt/schalke-dach-14562800__MBQF-1263379474,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

The next match on sunday will be cancelled......

Oops...

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fotos/FOTO-GALERIEN-R/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/dach-der-veltins-arena-eingestuerzt/schalke-dach-14562839__MBQF-1263379421,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fotos/FOTO-GALERIEN-R/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/dach-der-veltins-arena-eingestuerzt/schalke-dach-14562800__MBQF-1263379474,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/fotos/FOTO-GALERIEN-R/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/dach-der-veltins-arena-eingestuerzt/schalke-dach-14562801__MBQF-1263379443,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

http://www.supportersclub.de/typo3temp/pics/7eeea1f545.jpg

never loved membran :D
metal is better

Even though I'm a Schalke fan I think the whole roof is shit. Would have preferred something like in Cologne or Lisbon (da Luz).

yes. Acoustic is bad at the arena.

BTW are there any plans or rumours for a 3rd tier?
This one is too small for Schalke

This year winter is really gone crazy in Europe) And this is just the beginning.

http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/51437-Germany_Stadium_Roof_Snow_MME107.jpg

http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/51437-Germany_Stadium_Roof_Snow_MME102.jpg

@kampflamm:

Jetzt ist es raus, die Dachaktion war zur Vorbereitung des Spiels gegen den BVB:

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/sQWljfExbX1Rz3L.jpg

Looks like the new midfield makeshift seating method is catching on!

http://www.detnews.com/graphics/2008/0325fordfield.jpg



i didn't know you were allowed to have terracing in a hockey world cup game ?

what's the name of the stadium in the second picture ?

That's Ford Field, it's in Detroit.

http://www.schalke04.de/fileadmin/galerien/2010_100114_dach/dach_02.jpg

http://www.schalke04.de/fileadmin/galerien/2010_100114_dach/dach_08.jpg

http://www.schalke04.de/fileadmin/galerien/2010_100114_dach/dach_18.jpg

http://www.schalke04.de/fileadmin/galerien/2010_100114_dach/dach_21.jpg

http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/51437-Germany_Stadium_Roof_Snow_MME106.jpg

Removal of snow on other parts of the roof:

http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/51437-Germany_Stadium_Roof_Snow_MME104.jpg

Any possibility to lower the field compared when in football mode?
And how will the ice cope with the outdoor temperatures in Gelsenkirchen in the beginning of May?

That's what I've been asking myself as well. I always feel like the first hot temps of the year come around in early may (and then we see more average temps again)...the game is gonna suck if it's 25-30°C outside.

yes. Acoustic is bad at the arena.

BTW are there any plans or rumours for a 3rd tier?
This one is too small for Schalke

more terracing maybe Sercan?

That could be a solution.
As far as i know the max. allowed cap. is 75k (concerts)

Only problem is less seats of course, they'd probably still want to keep seating capacity above 40,000... You are right though a third tier is probably necessary

That's Ford Field, it's in Detroit.


aaaah !! i thought it looked like ford field , but i identify ford field by its luxury suite wall and 2 open corners .. now i realize the picture is taken from that side ...

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_100210_dach1.JPG

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_100210_dach2.jpg

Like nothing ever happend... :nuts::lol:

What the hell? :lol:

The figth between Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye (June 20, 2009) will be held in the Veltins-Arena. With ca. 60,000 people it would be the third biggest boxing fight in Germany ever.

1. Max Schmeling – Walter Neusel | 102,000 | (26.8.1934 in Hamburg)
2. Max Schmeling – Adolf Heuser | 70,000 | (2.7.1939 in Stuttgart)
3. Wladimir Klitschko - David Haye | 60,000 | (20.7.2009 in Gelsenkirchen)
4. "Bubi" Scholz – Harald Johnson | 45,000 | (23.6.1962 in Berlin)
5. Max Schmeling – Walter Neusel | 40,000 | (23.5.1948 in Hamburg)

I took a photo before that fight during the preparations:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6917/panoc.jpg

This is a great stadium, it hosted the second best Champions League Final, the best CL final was hosted by Ernst Happel Stadium in Vienna.

Best champions league final game was in 2005 in my opinion, best cl final overall was luzhniki Moscow in my opinion:cheers:

:drool: that pic...

The more I see the stadium the less I like it. he build up of the stands is so against my taste and that´s what it is, purely a matter of taste with that small second ring which makes you wonder why they did not build one big ring.
Liked the old stadium of/auf Schalke though.

The more I see the stadium the less I like it. he build up of the stands is so against my taste and that´s what it is, purely a matter of taste with that small second ring which makes you wonder why they did not build one big ring.
Liked the old stadium of/auf Schalke though.



i agree , i think it looks pretty stupid to have 2 vomitories so close to eachother aswell ..

why they did not build one big ring.
.

Suites!!!

Suites!!!

They could have done something specteculare like Boca or a Hoffenheim in big. One site all the suites and the rest one big stand. Suites Schalke also more mop.

But then the main stand would have been shorter -> problem with the roof

But then the main stand would have been shorter -> problem with the roof

not a problem, just different. :nuts:

Here are some of my pics taken at the Champions League Final in 2004:

FC Porto vs. AS Monacco 3:0

part 1:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6263646632386231.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6530633961363164.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3662666265393438.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3338326338356264.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3132336436336536.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6438346134646332.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3638636561326661.jpg

part 2:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3264343161633530.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6266666135336430.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3636646165363032.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6633623761646331.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3734383339656130.jpg


http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6437623362643836.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6232643737623765.jpg

part 3:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3564343332396139.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3337613035336265.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6662323666303630.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3733393066353237.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6137613764653162.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6165386335613165.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6166656665633963.jpg

are schalke 04 the owner of this stadium, or is it owned by the council of gelsenkirchen?

Truly awful arena:puke:, ikea with a canvas roof (that dosent work in snow by the way) and a retractable pitch that comes out the wrong side:lol:
Great design:cheers::puke:

:fiddle:Truly awful arena, ikea with a canvas roof (that dosent work in snow ) and a retractable pitch that comes out the wrong side
Great design

:fiddle: :fiddle: :fiddle:

South-west is the wrong side for the field??????????????????

ikea with a canvas roof

http://www.birdair.com/about/why_birdair.aspx

pictures from this weeks game vs. Stuttgart

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4427344457_02b3263348_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoosh/4427344457/sizes/l/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2802/4427344067_2e4b996e33_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoosh/4427344067/sizes/l/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2777/4428108324_fc326ce09a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoosh/4428108324/sizes/l/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4427344223_8214e10079_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoosh/4427344223/sizes/l/

perfect stadium

http://ultras-ge.de/wordpress/wp-content/photos/0910_choreo_kumpel/choreo_kum_01.jpg

saturday, 16th april Schalke-Borussia M'Gladbach

It cost €16,000. Magath could have bought another striker for that kind of money. :D

What does the text on the tifo say.

Club of the miners and workers. "Malochen" is slang for working hard.

Thank you for the translation.

Btw i´m coming all the way from Denmark to see Schalke playing against Hertha BSC this weekend.

http://veltins-arena.de/media/index_eishockeywm.gif

http://www.s04-event.de/media/innenraumwebcamnord.jpg

Will there be standing terraces during the hockey game?

Will there be standing terraces during the hockey game?

Yes, as you can see on this picture:

http://www.gelsenkirchener-geschichten.de/userpix/913/913_2_1.jpg

seats: 58,000
+ 18,000 = 76,000

Very beautifull stadium

More pics. The match is in the first third atm.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05nD30Mgyt3ti/610x.jpg
http://www.daylife.com/photo/06v47C0dwsda4?q=hockey+schalke
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01KDfVp7lN05l/610x.jpg

edit: Attendence is 77,803 - Germany wins 2:1 after overtime.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/082ieQD18e6lq/610x.jpg

more pics:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bOIgtq8Nk6y7/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04qw1yK5ET5Ct/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01yX7Ug3yndoj/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02p20wKflJ9da/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0a6L94ndh5eL6/x610.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gMQ1cy7Qu9Dj/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fz0gCH4l09Vr/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0blvfsO2np2ah/610x.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05CRaLJ88ycVI/x610.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04r8dvOdNG5AO/610x.jpg

great stadium, great crowd, terrible result. Glad to see such an interest in ice hockey in germany.

Awesome!!! What the crowd!
Love this arena and with an ice hockey game is even better!

That was really amazing!!! I wish this would have had more attention in the USA. You can't read anything on espn.com about it. I think this is really disappointing! Especially because it was their national hockey team to play in front of the biggest crowd ever seen a hockey game!!!

That was really amazing!!! I wish this would have had more attention in the USA. You can't read anything on espn.com about it. I think this is really disappointing! Especially because it was their national hockey team to play in front of the biggest crowd ever seen a hockey game!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olyhockey/news/story?id=5171886

Not much, but they did write about it.

That was really amazing!!! I wish this would have had more attention in the USA. You can't read anything on espn.com about it. I think this is really disappointing! Especially because it was their national hockey team to play in front of the biggest crowd ever seen a hockey game!!!

agreed. still hate the result thoguh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7J_dfV7c0

wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frkk9DePLsw&feature=related



I wish we had this in the colonies

Impressive!!

Any other games being played in outdoor arenas?

Yes, there has been a Handball Game.

You can take a look here: picture (http://www.veltins-arena.de/media/veranstalter_sport_handball.jpg)

I somehow wish that the Veltins Arena hosted the final game of the 74th IIHF World Ice Hockey Championships instead of the Cologne Arena.

Possible Eurovision venue next year?

Possible Eurovision venue next year?

Definetely not! The venue for the 2011 ESC will be Lanxess Arena (Cologne) or 02 World (Berlin).

Definetely not! The venue for the 2011 ESC will be Lanxess Arena (Cologne) or 02 World (Berlin).

But Moscow and Oslo have set the trend for bigger arenas for the song contest. The Eurovision started off in thetres from the 50's to the 70's and then started to use convention centers in the 80's and early 90's, which was followed by indoor arenas in recent contests

Also for the last few years each country has being trying to top the last and Germany will want to put on a spectacular show, so I wouldn't rule the Vetlins Arena out straight away.

But Moscow and Oslo have set the trend for bigger arenas for the song contest. The Eurovision started off in thetres from the 50's to the 70's and then started to use convention centers in the 80's and early 90's, which was followed by indoor arenas in recent contests

Also for the last few years each country has being trying to top the last and Germany will want to put on a spectacular show, so I wouldn't rule the Vetlins Arena out straight away.

Veltins Arena would be great, but the city isn't! I love my hometown (Gelsenkirchen), but it is not worth to host such an event.
A huge arena with a convertible roof + a fantastic city would be Düsseldorf!

I would be happy to see Veltins or Esprit Arena hosting the ESC but that will also mean that you guys will brake Denmarks record from 2001 with 38.000 people in Parken Stadium for that years final.

Veltins Arena would be great, but the city isn't! I love my hometown (Gelsenkirchen), but it is not worth to host such an event.
A huge arena with a convertible roof + a fantastic city would be Düsseldorf!

Your probably right. Hannover is the city that seems to be on the news in realation to the ESC the past few days, but Germany is such a huge country that the ESC could be in any of 10 or so cities at this stage.

A huge arena with a convertible roof + a fantastic city would be Düsseldorf!

Wait a minute. The LTU Arena has a retractable roofand it's in Dusseldorf. Would that not be perfect?

But Moscow and Oslo have set the trend for bigger arenas for the song contest. The Eurovision started off in thetres from the 50's to the 70's and then started to use convention centers in the 80's and early 90's, which was followed by indoor arenas in recent contests

Also for the last few years each country has being trying to top the last and Germany will want to put on a spectacular show, so I wouldn't rule the Vetlins Arena out straight away.

In 2001 it was in parken stadium copenhagen, with 38000 spectators.

stunning pictures,

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http://cdn.******************/Architektur-Bauwesen/Architektur-bei-Nacht/Veltins-Arena-Eingang-Victoria-Tribuene-a20735217.jpg

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Can the centrally suspended scoreboard be raised and lowered?

If so, can it be raised all the way to the ceiling? If not, would it hamper the top tier's view?

Does anyone know for sure?

No centrally hung scoreboard/video cube in the world obstructs views to a stand, all are high enough (even the monster in Dallas) to allow for clear views across the field. The only real concern with that type of display is in American Football, where punts could hit a board not set high enough.

No centrally hung scoreboard/video cube in the world obstructs views to a stand, all are high enough (even the monster in Dallas) to allow for clear views across the field. The only real concern with that type of display is in American Football, where punts could hit a board not set high enough.

But can the centrally hung video scoreboard for this stadium be raised and lowered?

I know that the enormous one in Cowboys Stadium can be raised and lowered. So I was wondering if the one in Gelsenkirchen and Frankurt could as well.

Champions League
Schalke 3-0 Lyon

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/5208291613_7cc861eea6_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77392960@N00/5208291613/

But can the centrally hung video scoreboard for this stadium be raised and lowered?

I know that the enormous one in Cowboys Stadium can be raised and lowered. So I was wondering if the one in Gelsenkirchen and Frankurt could as well.

They can, but other than working on them, they don't really have a reason to because it doesn't bother anyone, you can see the goals from both ends.

Beautiful

http://bilder.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/2010/12/26/schnee-alarm/fg/arena-dach-innen-18951426__MBQF-1293377479,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg
http://bilder.bild.de/BILD/sport/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/2010/12/26/schnee-alarm/fg/loch-dach-veltins-arena-weit-18950143-mfbq,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

and it happened again. (Last time Jan 2010)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/5296566767_1e8afc9f34_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pegasus31/5296566767

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5296564697_f6b51262eb_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pegasus31/5296564697/in/photostream/

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_101226_dach_01.jpg

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_101226_dach_04.jpg

http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_101226_dach_05.jpg
http://www.schalke04.de

How deep was the snow in the area?

It's not as if snow in Germany in the winter is a freak event, so I'd imagine/hope the amount was more than the roof was designed for.

neat and well-arranged, typical German product.

How deep was the snow in the area?

It's not as if snow in Germany in the winter is a freak event, so I'd imagine/hope the amount was more than the roof was designed for.

It's been a relatively cold and snowy winter in western Germany, as a matter of fact we've had the "whitest" X-mas since records began. Still, this stuff really shouldn't happen.

http://www.westline.de/storage/pic/artikel/294190_1_22139314.jpg

http://www.derwesten.de/img/4112884-924404205/0151_495_0035878486-0056844670.JPG.jpg

http://www.westline.de/storage/pic/artikel/294190_1_22139314.jpg

http://www.derwesten.de/img/4112884-924404205/0151_495_0035878486-0056844670.JPG.jpg

No wonder, the membranes collapse!
take a look at the retractable roof: the membranes ar much "smaller", or supperted with sub-constructions! the fixed roof has HUGE membranes, which means more surface, which collects more snow/weight. but without sufficiently support...

can't they replace the membranes with metal trapezoid-sheets, like at the tt-arena in istanbul?! that must be possible. as far as i know, membranes aren't much more light, but less solid.

^^
Das stadion ist wohl ein witz!

After the snow melts away, how is the roof of the Veltins Arena going to be fixed?

^^
Das stadion ist wohl ein witz!


Auch wenn ich Schalke-fan und im Besitz einer Dauerkarte bin, muss ich dir zum Teil recht geben!
Es steht fest, dass die an Weihnachten niedergegangenen Schneemengen Rekord seit Beginn der Wetteraufzeichnungen sind. Das Dach wurde statisch aufgrund der nach den Erfahrungen möglichen Schneemengen plus Sicherheitszuschlag konstruiert und gebaut. Allerdings ist die Veltins-Arena nicht das einzige Stadion, welches diese Membran als Dachbespannung benutzt, deshalb wird man forschen müssen, warum es ausgerechnet hier passiert ist. (Wenn man sich die Bilder oben anschaut, sieht man, dass die Planen mit größerer Spannweite eingerissen sind, die Tortenstücke in den Ecken sowie das fahrbare Dach mit engerer Dachkonstruktion sind nicht betroffen!)

Grundsätzlich stellt sich die Frage, ob man nicht besser ein stinknormales Stadio ohne Cabriodach gebaut hätte, welches mit einer Dachhaut aus Metall ausgekommen wäre. Mir hätte das völlig gereicht!

Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn man grundsätzlich über diese dachkonstruktion nachdenken und anschließend etwas völlig neues draufmachen müsste!

It seems German engineering is not as gründlich as it used to be.

It seems German engineering is not as gründlich as it used to be.


:lol:The construction was manged by the dutch company HBM!!!:lol::banana:

After the snow melts away, how is the roof of the Veltins Arena going to be fixed?

No informations about this! I guess, they will fix it with new membranes (from the US). For the future they have to remove the snow in time!

Aswell the space between the two membranes can be heated.
http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_100210_dach1.JPG

http://www.gelsenkirchener-geschichten.de/userpix/429/429_Arena_200907_1.jpg

Emmentaler Arena :D

to anyone questioning why there are double the exits in the smaller upper tier - it is a matter of safety! and due to german/european law people must be able to exit an area within a certain time frame. people in the lower tier can use the playing surface as a means of escape in the event of an emergency, those in the upper tier can not!

i'm sorry but seeing this i can't consider anymore velstins arena as Top technological arena! :(

:lol:The construction was manged by the dutch company HBM!!!:lol::banana:

You should know by now you cannot trust the Dutch :no:

http://www.doordebenen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/rijkaard-voller.jpg

:lol:The construction was manged by the dutch company HBM!!!:lol::banana:

:lol: :banana: :cheers:

i'm sorry but seeing this i can't consider anymore velstins arena as Top technological arena! :(
After you been there you realize it is even a little outdated. The wall between field and tiers i too high, the acoustic and atmosphere is like a gym. The roof construction should be changed as well. The pitch can be pulled outside, but the quality is still bad. :ohno:

I ve been to all stadiums of bundesliga in the past years, that is the one I dont like the most, although it looks nice on photo.

After you been there you realize it is even a little outdated. The wall between field and tiers i too high, the acoustic and atmosphere is like a gym. . :ohno:




You're a moron, werkself! The wall between the pitch and the stands is 3,15 m, the pitch is about 1,50 m!
I've taken this pictures at the Champions League Final 2004, I don't like this wall aswell, but it is no problem for the spectators in the stadium:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3734383339656130.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/6232643737623765.jpg

I personally loved the atmosphere in this "gym":ohno: at this wonderful match:
http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_091030_opta_1.jpg

The roof construction should be changed as well. The pitch can be pulled outside, but the quality is still bad

You're right, Schalke has to think about new and stronger membrans!
The pitch is in a top condition, they changed it just a few months ago.
btw, the old pitch was the original WC pitch from 2006!

I ve been to all stadiums of bundesliga in the past years, that is the one I dont like the most, although it looks nice on photo
Stay away next time, we won't miss you!

I personally loved the atmosphere in this "gym":ohno: at this wonderful match:
http://www.schalke04.de/uploads/RTEmagicP_091030_opta_1.jpg

aaarrggghh!

I was in Germany that day watching Hamburg beat Mainz 1-0. Thanks to problems with the trains from the centre, I got to the stadium entrance just as the only goal of the game was scored. Somehow I just knew it would be the only goal too.

Bad enough, if it wasn't for the scoreboard flashing up yet another goal from that damn match every 5-10 minutes.

You're a moron, werkself! The wall between the pitch and the stands is 3,15 m, the pitch is about 1,50 m!


Tbf I agree that it's too high, should be ground level (with no fences of course)...

Tbf I agree that it's too high, should be ground level (with no fences of course)...


I don't like this wall, but it is no problem for the spechtators in the stadium:
I took this picture (CL final 2004) from the bottom row:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/787401/3734383339656130.jpg

At least Schalke does not need any ugly fences:cheers:

Very beautiful this stadium.Nice and very good work

has the roff benn fixed?

has the roff benn fixed?

Not yet, it will be fixed at the end of winter (march).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/4148627662_47c05556dd_b.jpg

It was one of the first retractable roof stadiums in Europe. Am I right?

No! Cardiff first and Geldorome arnheim in netherlands :cheers:

Even the retractable pitch was for Arnaheim.

I thought The Amsterdam Arena was the first.

i'm watching schalke04 Vs manchester but i notice several gaps in the roof? Why?

I thought The Amsterdam Arena was the first.

The Amsterdam Arena, opened in August 1996, was the first in Europe indeed. Not Cardiff from 1999 or the Arnhem Gelredome from March 1998.

i'm watching schalke04 Vs manchester but i notice several gaps in the roof? Why?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=69595337&postcount=116

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=69595337&postcount=116

There was at least 6 or 7 uncovered identical parts of the roof.

Are you sure they are all related to the same snow problem?

I don't think so.could someone explain us more precisely? thanks :)

Nope, it was explained perfectly by yyyves. The heavy snow caused the damage to the roof.

then it means that in case of rain people are wet?!

then it means that in case of rain people are wet?!

No, they start to sparkle pink, yellow and silver... why should people get wet, when it rains on them?!?!

No, they start to sparkle pink, yellow and silver... why should people get wet, when it rains on them?!?!

It's just a question! Don't answer like that!

I just want to know if a temporary solution exist or no because those gaps exist since december snow...

Just say yes or no.

It's just a question! Don't answer like that!

I just want to know if a temporary solution exist or no because those gaps exist since december snow...

Just say yes or no.

Why don't you do some research yourself to answer your own question as opposed to leading a line of questions that will no doubt end in some nonsense commentary along the lines of "really poor stadium /bad roof design/ Lille's new stadium is way better than this etc"

Do you honestly think having gaps in the stadium roof is anything other than a temporary thing for a Bundesliga club who got to the last four in Europe (and could at this juncture maybe get to the final still)? It's pretty obvious they cannot replace the damage mid season without suffering a loss of capacity or closing the stadium altogether. Use a bit of common sense please or if you genuinely cannot surpress the urge to talk utter garbage then stay in your Lille thread rather than polluting the rest of the threads with your nonsense

Could someone from germany knowing better the situation could answer me please?

-decisions taken to replace or not with the same material
-schedule of final works etc...

Thank you :)

Could someone from germany knowing better the situation could answer me please?

-decisions taken to replace or not with the same material
-schedule of final works etc...

Thank you :)

I am from germany.
the new rumours and the new trend in poor german Bundesliga are:
- Not to replace broken roof parts.
- destruct the whole roof, when almost every membrane is collapsed.
- The secret Goal is to have an fully open Bowl, for a much better atmosphere. like in france ligue 1.
- And the semi-secret goal is to make all the other fans jealous. they should say: "we want to see the stars, not the game." and "Its so warm inside this covered stadium. i want to breathe and get wet"

You're wellcome :)

i dont see why people are so bothered about getting wet at a football game.... if we're that bothered we should just build retractable roofs for out cities haha, anyway doesn't germany have a winter break with their league?

i dont see why people are so bothered about getting wet at a football game.... if we're that bothered we should just build retractable roofs for out cities haha, anyway doesn't germany have a winter break with their league?


the minimum of comfort criterias for a stadium of XXI century is to be at least sheltered to see a good spectacle no? :)

the minimum of comfort criterias for a stadium of XXI century is to be at least sheltered to see a good spectacle no? :)

hmmm i'd say the nou camp shows some good spectacles and is home to one of if not the best team in europe and most of the stadium is uncovered.

Winter in barcelona is not the same than in germany. :D

axel i told you once germans are no pussys

furthermore you dont have to pollute other topics just because lille is closed.
get yourself an occupation for example oregami is great

I don´t care about the gaps. I love this beauty :D

Winter in barcelona is not the same than in germany. :D

i do know, believe me

axel i told you once germans are no pussys

furthermore you dont have to pollute other topics just because lille is closed.
get yourself an occupation for example oregami is great


Please stop your troll everywhere i post!

I was talking about an actual aspect of this stadium!

My intervention is relevant then leave me alone! Because it is like this Lille was closed :ohno:
Leave me ALONE!!!!

They're gonna fix this after the season.

thank you :)

Could someone from germany knowing better the situation could answer me please?

-decisions taken to replace or not with the same material
-schedule of final works etc...

Thank you :)

I've a season ticket for Schalke and I'm interested in any news about this stadium.
Schalke 04 recently made a contract for 7 new membrans. The company will use polyester membrans instead of fiber membrans, cause they are stronger.
This will cost 2.6 million €.
To replace the old fiber membrans will cost 10.6 million €.

(in german)
http://www.derwesten.de/staedte/gelsenkirchen/Dach-der-Veltins-Arena-in-Gelsenkirchen-Schalke-soll-bald-repariert-werden-id4576426.html

btw, we were lucky and had NO rain during the matches since the roof ist broken:cheers:

I've a season ticket for Schalke and I'm interested in any news about this stadium.
Schalke 04 recently made a contract for 7 new membrans. The company will use polyester membrans instead of fiber membrans, cause they are stronger.
This will cost 2.6 million €.
To replace the old fiber membrans will cost 10.6 million €.

(in german)
http://www.derwesten.de/staedte/gelsenkirchen/Dach-der-Veltins-Arena-in-Gelsenkirchen-Schalke-soll-bald-repariert-werden-id4576426.html

btw, we were lucky and had NO rain during the matches since the roof ist broken:cheers:

Thank you very much :okay:

That's why i call a relevant and complete information from someone who live there and know the situation well! :cheers:

http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/va1ryi21umztf.jpg

The first membrane is fixed:cheers: