Albeit in the middle of one of the worst financial crises worldwide, a new mall opened its gates to the Athenian public on 27 November 2008. The new mall has the symbolic name "Golden Hall" and it aims at offering the utmost in shopping luxury and elegance.

The building where GH is situated, is the well known IBC (International Broadcasting Center) building for the 2004 Athens Olympic games, where all broadcasts related to the 2004 Olympic Games of Athens took place. It is strategically located in the suburb of Maroussi at the intersection of Kifissias Avenue, the 17km-long avenue that connects central Athens with the rich suburbs of Kifissia, Maroussi, and the rest of the northern suburbs which are considered to be high-class residential areas, and Spyros Louis Avenue that passes in front of the Olympic stadium and the Athens Olympic Sports Complex (OAKA). Also, the mall is right in the middle of the business hub of kifissias Avenue, which is the base of many multinational companies, TV channels, shops, other lalls and hypermarkets, etc.


Golden Hall is the second largest at this time in Athens with a total GLA (Gross Leasable Area) of 41,000 sq meters and another 60,000 in two basement floors for the parking with capacity 1,400 vehicles. It hosts 135 stores, many belonging to international well-known retail chains, some of them using this venue for their first presence in Greece.

Even in this case, not all of the former IBC building is occupied since its back side facing the Athens Olympic Stadium will be used as a museum of the Olympic games and classical sports. So, lots of work needs to be done in order for the whole 100,000 sq meter floor area building to become fully utilized.

This mall was built by "Lamda Development (http://www.lamda-development.net/online/homepage.aspx)" belonging to the Latsis family. It is the same construction company that built the largest mall in Greece today, the 58,000 sq meters GLA "The Mall Athens (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=286676)", which is located only from this one. However, the target market for this mall is different that that of "The Mall Athens" since it aims at customers with high purchasing power, belonging to the upper middle class and above.

To attract this exclusive high-end customer base, the GH offers the utmost in luxury and attempts to create this refined atmosphere found in other similar developments elsewhere in the world. So, in this mall there are no multiplex cinema theaters, fast food restaurants and supermarkets. At the third level you may find four restaurants offering Greek and other ethnic cuisines as well as gourmet dishes while a number of small cafes and bistros is scattered on all floors and arcades, including the two wide public atria on both ends of the shopping areas of the mall.

The photos that follow were taken by me from Friday 27 to Sunday 30 November (the exterior shots). I hope they give you a good idea of the place and its surroundings.

-2 General panoramas of the mall.

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-Views of the entrance plaza and its environment.

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This is the side of the building from Spyros Louis Avenue. In this, as well as the first two pictures, the characteristic shape of the Athens Olympic Stadium designed by the famous Spanish archiotect S. Calatrava is visible in the background.

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From the main plaza looking towards Kifissias Avenue. The building in the background behind the fountain is the offices of the Hellenic Olympic Committee.

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-Sleeping beauty or sleeping Buddha? :lol:

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-Images of the interior with the main atria, shops and some architectural details:

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Observe the little boy in this one...

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Overall, I hope that this venture will succeed. If not for anything else, but for the hundreds of young (and the not-so-young) employees that found a job in this dry season, as well as the rest of us Athenians, who have one more elegant and cozy corner to visit in our city :).

well done gm!! very nice pics,it looks like a really nice mall.

Really surprised the stores use only Roman alphabet characters in their names. Should have made them use both alphabets!

What did this building originally look like during the Athens Olympics?

Really surprised the stores use only Roman alphabet characters in their names. Should have made them use both alphabets!

I don't agree. The names of these companies are like trademarks and are recognized around the wolrd in their english (Latin letters) format. Just glancing at the word gives immediate recognition.

If you look carefully, ΓΕΡΜΑΝΟΣ, which is a Greek company has its sign in Greek letters.

I agree with LEAFS. It has to do with the origins of each trademark and most of them are foreign brands using English names.

Oh well the mall looks fantastic, pity its not taller..but at least the building was there anyway, so here how it looked initially:

http://www.lamda-development.net/Uploads/IBC_1.jpg

http://www.smpte.org.au/images/Athens-IBC-2004-01.jpg

As for the discussion on the alphabet used on stores signs, even Greek firms rarely use Greek letters that's no secret, even simp[le cafes in example, but it looks normal to most of us..if they would use greek most would be surprised i guess...:D

consume consume consume, ελπίζω να υπάρχουν και άλλοι στο φορουμ που δεν τρελαίνονται για "άλλο ένα" mall/hyper market/etc.
Από ότι φαίνεται είναι ο μόνος τομέας που κινείται τόσο δυναμικά σε ότι αφορά τις κατασκευές στην πρωτεύουσα.
Βέβαια να δούμε με την οικονομική κρίση και ένα δύσκολο 2009 μπροστά μας πόσο θα κρατήσουν όλοι αυτοί οι πολυχώροι κατανάλωσης και "ψυχαγωγίας".

oute egw trelenome giati pera apo tin katanalosi kai to oti de prosferoun tipota alo ston katanaloti , voithane kai sti kaliergeia mias katanalotikis manias me tous trendy, tous dithen kai ala polla.....

ola ayta vevea den einai exetias mono ton diaforon Mall ala logo elipsis alon erethismaton.....apo paidia kai vale.

gia ayto kai herome gia ta diafora malls giati (se sindiasmo me ala pola) dimourgoun mia oraia kai aparetiti ikona mias sovaris modernas polis..kai an einai kai oraia ktiria akomi kalitera!

distihos ta ala pola leipoun....

Ασφαλώς πολλά λείπουν...όμως τέτοια projects για μένα κάνουν καλό: δίνουν θέσεις εργασίας, προάγουν το εμπόριο, ακόμα και την αρχιτεκτονική παραγωγή. Επίσης, να μην ξεχνάμε ότι στην Ελλάδα το πρόβλημά μας ΔΕΝ είναι το μεγάλο κεφάλαιο...το πρόβλημα είναι η μικρομεσαία μιζέρια, είναι ότι κάθε κακή εξυπηρέτηση/αγένεια/παρανομία/πανωσήκωμα/κλείσιμο ρετιρέ με άθλια τζαμαρία/κλείσιμο ημιυπαίθριων κλπ κλπ συγχωρείται στο μικρομεσαίο, δημιουργώντας ένα κακώς εννοούμενο "παρεϊστικο" κλίμα, όπου το "δε βαριέσαι" διαμορφώνει τελικά την κρατούσα κοινωνική ηθική. Όχι, δε με πειράζουν καθόλου τα malls. Είναι χώροι που καλλιεργείται μια μορφή επαγγελματισμού στις εμπορικές σχέσεις η οποία, με την πάροδο των χρόνων, μπορεί να επηρεάσει θετικά την κοινωνία. Στην πολιτισμένη προπολεμική Αθήνα, ή στις χώρες της Βόρειας Ευρώπης που παραμένουν πολιτισμένες στις κοινωνικές τους αλληλεπιδράσεις, ασφαλώς το μικρό μαγαζί του αξιοπρεπούς έντιμου εμπόρου είναι συμπαθεστατο. Αλλά στη σημερινή Ελλάδα του τσάτρα-πάτρα, της γαϊδουριάς και τής έλλειψης επαγγελματισμού, η επιβολή ενός τέτοιου προφίλ είναι το μεγάλο κεφάλαιο είναι κοινωνική προσφορά...μια και οι εκάστοτε κρατούντες ποτέ δεν τολμούν να κάνουν τίποτα που θα ενοχλήσει κανένα, μπας και χάσουν καμμιά ψήφο...

Beautiful upscale mall, I think they could have done better with the exterior (the non entrance part).
The fountain out front is really large, I am impressed.

Here are some more great pics from flickr member Philos from Athens:

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Looks great :cheers:

I love it... It's elegance. I even saw some brands I was searching for into 'The Mall' but I couldn't find. I'm certainly going to visit it in X-mas brake.

But I can say that the interior of the mall is more friendly to the costumer. Its worm and welcome. Maybe because its red colors and design.

This ones interior is more likely ''chilly'' cold. But elegance and luxury in the same time.

What you guys think??

The photos are all great, but I find the overall design rather typical of a mall (boring). It would be nice to give these malls Greek names, Golden Hall just sounds like something I would find in one of Toronto's chinatowns. Yes the Latin alphabet is international but it wouldn't hurt to have Greek lettering as well, just look at the way they spell McDonalds in Russia.

The photos are all great, but I find the overall design rather typical of a mall (boring). It would be nice to give these malls Greek names, Golden Hall just sounds like something I would find in one of Toronto's chinatowns. Yes the Latin alphabet is international but it wouldn't hurt to have Greek lettering as well, just look at the way they spell McDonalds in Russia.

Not all malls in Greece are boring. I think The Mall Athens is not boring at all. Its very beautiful it has nice colors and welcomes the consumer. Just check the Mall Athens thread.

Oti kai na poume, fainetai polu wraio mesa.

Really surprised the stores use only Roman alphabet characters in their names. Should have made them use both alphabets!

what old fashioned idea is this? I"ve only seen this happening in countries like Russia or Saudi Arabia, where you will have to "translate" your logo into local language and it looks just hedeous. And only happens in such totaletarian areas...

could you imagine this somewhere in Greece?

ΣΤΑΡΜΠΑΞ ΚΟΦΙ

http://www.russiablog.org/StarbucksMoscow.bmp

ΜΑΚ ΝΤΟΝΑΛΝΤΣ

http://www.psfk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/macdonalds-moscow.jpg

αι γκοου δεαρ ολ δε ταιμ, εντ τραστ μι, αι εμ χαβηνγκ ε μπιγκ λαφ ολγουεηζ!

^^

Yeah I can totally see signs like this in Greece written in both Greek and any other language. You can have signs in both languages, its no big deal, many countries have billingual signs. In Canada there are signs in French and English and other languages depending on the ethnic neighbourhood. It's not old fashion thinking, it's the opposite, it is progressive. Whenever I travel to Greece it saddens me to see less and less Greek signs. People now even write text in forums using latin letters to spell Greek words!!!! At this pace we can say goodbye to the Greek language within a couple of generations. The more the Greek language gets eroded the more we lose touch with our past.

In Canada there are signs in French and English and other languages depending on the ethnic neighbourhood. It's not old fashion thinking, it's the opposite, it is progressive.

I agree. Wouldn't hurt anything using both alphabets. As for McDonalds and Starbucks I kind of like the Cyrillic alphabet! The Logo's of the stores (Golden Arches and so on) clearly identify the company.

When I go to Greece it helps me polish my Greek by reading in the original alphabet. I hate to see too much western influence-too much already, frankly.

^^

Yeah I can totally see signs like this in Greece written in both Greek and any other language. You can have signs in both languages, its no big deal, many countries have billingual signs. In Canada there are signs in French and English and other languages depending on the ethnic neighbourhood. It's not old fashion thinking, it's the opposite, it is progressive. Whenever I travel to Greece it saddens me to see less and less Greek signs. People now even write text in forums using latin letters to spell Greek words!!!! At this pace we can say goodbye to the Greek language within a couple of generations. The more the Greek language gets eroded the more we lose touch with our past.

Graphoume Greeklish gia na min mporoun na katalavoun oi ksenoi ti grafoume. hehe. To leo epeidi mporeis na metafraseis ta Ellinika meso google.

Mn ksehnas oti O canadas den einai aggliki parikia mono. Einai agglogalliki.

Kai oso anafora tin glossa mas den tha hathei POTE. Tha ginei i pagkosmia glosa sintoma. I aggliki den einai arketi. O programatismops apetei oso anaptisetai pio aneptigmenes glosses. Eksalou i Elliniki opos poly kala kserete oloi einei SINDEDEMENI me tous arithmous kai gia na epitixeis Artificial Intelligence xreiazese tin Elliniki. I dinami tis einai terastia kai oi perissoteroi Ellines den to kseroun auto. Na ena fact: I aggliki exei peripou 500.000 lekseis sto leksilogio tis, kai ena terastio pososto einai Ellinikes. I Elliniki asxeta poses xrisimopioume sto kathimerino mas leksilogio exei peri ta 3.000.000 lekseis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! An to psaksete ligo tha katalavete. O idios o Bill Gates kapote eixe pei gia tin Elliniki glossa poso simantiki einai kai oti tha eprepe na min einai i agliki i pagkosmia glossa.

Ektos aftou i glossa mas antekse 8000 hronia. Tora tha xathei? Antekse apo tn Romaiki autokratoria, apo tin Othomaniki. 400 oloklira xronia kai den kataferan na mas apoellinopiisoun. Paraeimaste san Ellines perifanoi gia na ginei kati tetio. Pisteuo an oxi to 100% toulaxiston to 99.9% den tha afine pote na simvei kati tetio.

Auto den tha ginei pote.

P.S grafo me Greeklish gia ton parapano logo. Den xriazete na kserei o kathenas ti leme metaksi mas!!

Πολυ ωραίο mall! Και πολλή πολυτέλεια ρε παιδί μου! Δεν έχει να ζηλέψει τίποτα απο τα mall της Αγγλίας ας πούμε.

brands get international recognition by using the same name in latin and dont need (or want) to change and adapt for each market (at least not the name).

What is really worrying for me is why malls/cafes/restaurants/clubs who are not franchises nor large multinationals cannot find a decent name in greek or at least something with a minimal connection to the country.....

hell, you even get foreign names with incorrect grammar in loads of coffee shops (in italian and more...) but its still more fashionable than anything local...


yes, golden hall and mall are boring names, but the malls are fine I think. Well at least Golden Hall is a step up from just "mall"....

I don't see any problem with International brands or companies/corporations, using English letters in their signs etc. Those are their trademarks, that is what they are identified by.
And frankly, that is how even people in Greece recognise those companies and brands.

How ridiculous.
Imagine walking through Kolonaki and entering the "ΓΚΟΎΤΖΙ" store. Why would these brands want to ever use local characters?

Top notch Shopping centre with a great shop range. I'll visit for sure as soon as I'm back in Greece.

To answer you in English EngineerGreece, yes the Greek language is very old, but it is quickly disappearing even in Greece, if you look at the last 100 years and the Demotic Greek that is primarily now used, it has severely eroded the language. Greeklish seems to be the last nail in the coffin. My parents generation (now in their 70s) who learned Καθαρεύουσα and only finished high school have a much easier time understanding earlier Greek works than young people with post secondary education in Greece. I am no where near that level, I have difficulty writing Greek that is grammatically correct (English as well), but I understand the importance of keeping the Greek language alive. When you start mixing half your words with English ones it only kills your own language. Many other countries do what they can to keep their language alive including forcing multinational corporations to use the local language in their signage and labels. I think it would be wise for Greece to do the same.

If a language is in danger because foreign brands are written in the Latin alphabet, then this means that the particular language in in the brink of extinction.

I prefer the other way round: To make our own Greek brand names that they will be so strong, so that the foreigners will have to learn their spelling and pronunciation in Greek.

That's strength.

Other than that, this is a very elegant mall aiming at an exclusive clientele. I don't think that brand names should be changed, part of their charm is their foreign spelling.

BTW, ever heard about the Korres cosmetic products? (http://www.korres.com/) I believe HE can change the name to ΚΟΡΡΕΣ quite easily and nobody will object. This is power in the name, power of the words.

Εν αρχή ήν ο λόγος...

To answer you in English EngineerGreece, yes the Greek language is very old, but it is quickly disappearing even in Greece, if you look at the last 100 years and the Demotic Greek that is primarily now used, it has severely eroded the language. Greeklish seems to be the last nail in the coffin. My parents generation (now in their 70s) who learned Καθαρεύουσα and only finished high school have a much easier time understanding earlier Greek works than young people with post secondary education in Greece. I am no where near that level, I have difficulty writing Greek that is grammatically correct (English as well), but I understand the importance of keeping the Greek language alive. When you start mixing half your words with English ones it only kills your own language. Many other countries do what they can to keep their language alive including forcing multinational corporations to use the local language in their signage and labels. I think it would be wise for Greece to do the same.

Nope its not going to disappear. It will never do. I written the reasons at my previous post...:)

I katharevousa mporei na min miliete pia alla iparxei kai kirios grafetai.

And don't worry young people are not stupid they know language's importance. And they are more educated and clever than most of the people think. Our education system may not be the best in the world but because of the Frontistiria (which are NOT good and our education should be enough) are helping a lot. Parents worry way to much their children go to a University.

Stop saying that its extinguishing. That's simply not true.

To set the record straight: they're called LATIN or ROMAN letters/characters. NOT "English" letters.

I have absolutely no problem with Greek companies using Latin characters. It does irk me however that English is slowly taking over. Smattering English words (when there's a perfectly good Greek word) into colloquial speech and even newspaper and magazine articles, and even the television news, because it's chic.... The name of the mall "The Golden Hall"...they could have picked a more Greek name.

^^

Yeah I can totally see signs like this in Greece written in both Greek and any other language. You can have signs in both languages, its no big deal, many countries have billingual signs. In Canada there are signs in French and English and other languages depending on the ethnic neighbourhood. It's not old fashion thinking, it's the opposite, it is progressive. Whenever I travel to Greece it saddens me to see less and less Greek signs. People now even write text in forums using latin letters to spell Greek words!!!! At this pace we can say goodbye to the Greek language within a couple of generations. The more the Greek language gets eroded the more we lose touch with our past.


The Canadian comparison: apples and oranges.

English is a foreign language in Greece. French is not a foreign language in Canada; try telling that to Canadians from Québec (French-speaking Canadians are NOT French immigrants). English and French are native languages in Canada (depending on the province and region) along with Inuit in Nunavut; immigrant languages are rarely used in signage, except in the occasional immigrant neighborhood, like Chinatown in Vancouver or the Portuguese neighborhood of Toronto...it's not any different than a Pakistani immigrant in west Athens posting a sale sign on his shop window in Urdu.

:cheers:

I don't think the Greek language in Greece it self, is in danger of extinction. That is a bit melodramatic, and over exaggerating the significance of foreign brands using Latin letters rather the Greek in their Greek branches. Sure, people know second and third languages, but the primary language in Greece still remains Greek and that will always be the case.

Our language has survived was things then foreign companies using English.
And Greeklish has come about primarily from the Greek diaspora.

I've been to a mall once in moscow where i saw a greek store, with letters in greek. I think it was natural cosmetics or something.

^^ Korres maybe?

I don't know about everyone else but Golden Hall sounds more like an Indian temple of some kind :cheers:

I don't know about everyone else but Golden Hall sounds more like an Indian temple of some kind :cheers:

LOL!!!

It does look like that in the upper floor. Are you talking about the red pillars and all?

Παίδες, η αρχή έγινε με το "Mall".
Το οποίο - κατ' εμένα - είναι και το καλύτερο. Δεν γνωρίζω αν είναι και το πιο μεγάλο αλλά το structure του και ο τρόπος που είναι διευθετημένα τα καταστήματα είναι πολύ πιο έυκολο για τους καταναλωτές.

Γεια σου φίλε μας Ανδρέα. Όντως το "mall" είναι και το πιό μεγάλο και το πλέον ολοκληρωμένο εμπορικό κέντρο για την ώρα. Το συγκεκριμένο για το οποίο μιλάμε είναι διασκευασμένο για τα μεγάλα βαλάντια, που θέλουν να ψωνίσουν τις ακριβές τους μάρκες χωρίς να ενοχλούνται απο ορδές πιτσιρικάδων, οικογένειες κλπ.

Ένα μεγάλο ατού του μωλλ, είναι οι μεγάλοι εσωτερικοί χώροι. Στο συγκεκριμένο, οι χώροι είναι μεν μεγάλοι αλλά δεν έχει την "άπλα" του μωλλ. ¨Αλλη φιλοσοφία, κάτι σαν "Κολωνάκι" κάτω από την ίδια στέγη. Φυσικά, η πολυτέλεια περισσή, εννοείται. Φέρνει κάτι από το εμπορικό κέντρο στα πρώτα επίπεδα του Trump Tower στην πέμπτη λεωφόρο της ΝΥ - λέμε τώρα... :D

Καλώς σας βρήκα.
Πάντως θα το επισκεφθώ, όχι σύντομα όμως μιας και κατάγομαι απο τη Κύπρο.
Όταν ανεβώ για ένα τριήμερο τον Φεβράρη θα το τσεκάρω.
Ακούγεται πάντως κάτι διαφορετικό, αν όντως δεν έχει φαστφουντάδικα etc.

Ποια στάση του μετρό(ή μάλλον του ηλεκτρικού ε;) είναι κοντά;
Αν δεν κάνω λάθος φτάνεις και με τον υπεραστικό.

LOL!!!

It does look like that in the upper floor. Are you talking about the red pillars and all?

:lol::lol: Nope just the name. The whole shopping centre looks really top spec, the only thing I'm a bit worried is the overall footfall.

Anyway welcome here Andrea and don't forget to visit the Cypriot forum. At least they talk about skyscrapers in Nicosia and Limassol.

As for transportation, my guess is that you should reach the "proastiakos" stop in Kifissias Avenue and then walk 1 km down the road. Dress well as it's windy there BTW. Also, visit the site of the golden hall in http://www.goldenhall.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=105&lang=el for access information.

I like this new mall,it's alright,the only thing i don't like about the Golden Hall is its facade...oh and what a nice fountain!:lol:

Anyway welcome here Andrea and don't forget to visit the Cypriot forum. At least they talk about skyscrapers in Nicosia and Limassol.

As for transportation, my guess is that you should reach the "proastiakos" stop in Kifissias Avenue and then walk 1 km down the road. Dress well as it's windy there BTW. Also, visit the site of the golden hall in http://www.goldenhall.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=105&lang=el for access information.

It's not very close to a metro or suburb train station cause it suppose to be a mall for rich people. Rich people are NOT using transportation. How lame!!!

Anyway what you guys think?

It's not very close to a metro or suburb train station cause it suppose to be a mall for rich people. Rich people are NOT using transportation. How lame!!!

Anyway what you guys think?

LOL!!!

Καλό είναι. Pas mal :)

LOL!!!

Καλό είναι. Pas mal :)

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Στα Γαλλικά: Καθόλου άσχημο (not bad που λέμε και στα Εγγλέζικα) :)

Στα Γαλλικά: Καθόλου άσχημο (not bad που λέμε και στα Εγγλέζικα) :)

Nai to ksero alla ennoeis oti auto pou eipa den einai katholou asximo???

Ego ennoousa an tha eprepe na einai pio konta se kapio stathmo i oxi!

It's not very close to a metro or suburb train station cause it suppose to be a mall for rich people. Rich people are NOT using transportation. How lame!!!

Anyway what you guys think?


Well, not totally like that. In their site they say they have free suttle busses from Neratziotisa station.

And its not for rich people (or at least not only). The real rich do not shop in Malls, no matter how much glitter they put. Its just not for teenagers hanging out after school (though you will see them there as well, i bet).
It's not one huge GUCCI, it has normal stores as well (Diesel, Nike, Zara, Germanos etc). And dont tell me that Accessorize or Bershka for example is for "rich" people...

Its simply a 25+ mall, compared to 14-25 of The Mall.
If it was not targeting to the big masses as well, Zara group wouldnt be there with so many stores. And they know very well where they open and where not.

Well, not totally like that. In their site they say they have free suttle busses from Neratziotisa station.

And its not for rich people (or at least not only). The real rich do not shop in Malls, no matter how much glitter they put. Its just not for teenagers hanging out after school (though you will see them there as well, i bet).
It's not one huge GUCCI, it has normal stores as well (Diesel, Nike, Zara, Germanos etc). And dont tell me that Accessorize or Bershka for example is for "rich" people...

Its simply a 25+ mall, compared to 14-25 of The Mall.
If it was not targeting to the big masses as well, Zara group wouldnt be there with so many stores. And they know very well where they open and where not.

I agree with you but Ι object in one thing.

Diesel is not a normal store. You can find in it clothes up to 800euros!!!!!:nuts::lol:

Μπορεις να πας στην Πλατεια Κανιγγος οπου ειναι η αφετηρια των λεωφορειακων γραμμων Α7, Β7 και Ε7, τα δρομολογια Κανιγγος-Κηφισια δηλαδη, τα οποια διατρεχουνε ολη την Κηφισιας και κανουνε σταση πολυ κοντα στο Golden Hall. Ειδικα αν παρεις το Ε7 που ειναι express, θα κανεις πολυ γρηγορα...

Μπορεις να πας στην Πλατεια Κανιγγος οπου ειναι η αφετηρια των λεωφορειακων γραμμων Α7, Β7 και Ε7, τα δρομολογια Κανιγγος-Κηφισια δηλαδη, τα οποια διατρεχουνε ολη την Κηφισιας και κανουνε σταση πολυ κοντα στο Golden Hall. Ειδικα αν παρεις το Ε7 που ειναι express, θα κανεις πολυ γρηγορα...

Ontos alla den einai to idio me to metro. Exei kapio pou na ksekina apo kapoio kontino stathmo kai na kataligei konta sto mall oste na min xriazetai na perpatas 1.000m???

Tha mou peis siga ta polla. Alla den einai gia olous liga. :)

Τώρα μην κοιτάς που έχουμε καλομάθει. Παλιά "στα χρόνια μου" :ancient: πηγαίναμε οπουδήποτε με το λεωφορείο. Βέβαια, θα βόλευε να είχε στάση του Μετρό εκεί. Ε, θα έχει σε καμιά 15ριά χρόνια όταν θα τελειώσει η γραμμή 4 που θα ανεβαίνει την Κηφισίας, με τους ρυθμούς που πάνε. :D

Originally Posted by TeddyAmsterdam
Well, not totally like that. In their site they say they have free suttle busses from Neratziotisa station.

And its not for rich people (or at least not only). The real rich do not shop in Malls, no matter how much glitter they put. Its just not for teenagers hanging out after school (though you will see them there as well, i bet).
It's not one huge GUCCI, it has normal stores as well (Diesel, Nike, Zara, Germanos etc). And dont tell me that Accessorize or Bershka for example is for "rich" people...

Its simply a 25+ mall, compared to 14-25 of The Mall.
If it was not targeting to the big masses as well, Zara group wouldnt be there with so many stores. And they know very well where they open and where not.

The Athens rich will still shop in Kiffissia or Kolonaki exclusive boutiques like Armani, Gucci, Channel, Prada etc. The golden Hall is a mid-high income shopping centre. That's the reason why I'm a bit skeptical about the overall footfall, as in the past similar malls failed to attract enough crowed (etc Mailbox in Brum or Triangle in Manchester)

Ε, θα έχει σε καμιά 15ριά χρόνια όταν θα τελειώσει η γραμμή 4 που θα ανεβαίνει την Κηφισίας, με τους ρυθμούς που πάνε. :D

em!! Ama exeis arxaia mprosta sou kathe xiliosto pou kouniesai kai pefteis kai se periodo ikonomikis krisis logiko den einai? :lol:

Το προηγούμενο Σ/Κ, που έβρεχε κιόλας και ήταν και οι πρώτες μέρες του Γκολντεν Χωλλ, το μποτιλιάρισμα γύρω από την συγκεκριμένη περιοχή (Αρτέμιδος, Κηφισίας, Διονύσου, κλπ) ήταν α-π-ι-σ-τ-ε-υ-τ-ο!

Ο Αθάνατος Νεόπολουτος Νεοέλληνας ή μάλλον πιο σωστά, η κακομαθημένη νεο-ελληνιδα, μεγαλο-μικρο-μπεμπέκα, είχε πάρει το ΙΧ της για να κατέβει να δει το νέο "επώνυμο" "θαύμα" του νεο-ελληνικού καταναλωτισμού! Και όλα αυτά σε περίοδο διεθνούς οικονομικής κρίσης!
(Συνεργάτης μου με ανδρικό και γυναικείο κατάστημα ρούχων στο γκολντεν χωλλ, μου έλεγε ότι το προηγούμενο Σ/Κ το γυναικείο έκανε 2πλάσιο τζίρο από το ανδρικό!).

Μου λέτε μετά για ουρανοξύστες στο Μαρούσι! Τέλος παιδιά, μόνο με τα μωλλς και έχουμε πήξει! δεν μπορούμε τα σαββατοκύριακα να βγούμε από τα σπίτια μας! Ακόμη και οι (φαινομενικά επαρκείς) υπάρχουσες υποδομές δεν είναι αρκετές! Και αυτό το λέει κάποιος που και την αρχιτεκτονική μιζέρια και τον επαρχιωτισμό μας της Αθήνας αναγνωρίζει, αλλά και υπέρμαχος των ψηλών κτιρίων (επιλεκτικά όμως!) και των ουρανοξυστών είναι!

Μα άμα τα χτίζεις όπως νά'ναι και δεν προβλέπεις υποδομές, έτσι θα σε πάει. Πού ακούστηκε τρία malls (The mall Athens, Avenue-Carrefour, Golden Hall) χωρίς να υπολογίσουμε το Kosmopolis και το Media Markt και κάτι ηλεκτραγορές και κάτι ψιλά από την απέναντι όχθη.

Τα μισά απο αυτά επαρκούσαν και τελείωνε η υπόθεση. Όσο για τα κτίρια γραφείων, όσο πιό κατατμημένα είναι σε μικρά-μικρά οικοπεδάκια, όπως στην οδό Παραδείσου και στις παρόδους της Κηφισίας, τόσο μεγαλύτερο πρόβλημα θα υπάρχει. ΔΕ θα φταίνε κάποια ωραία συγκροτήματα υψηλών κτιρίων που και χώρο θα αφήνανε αλλά και θα αποφευγόταν αυτό το συνεχές πήγαινε-έλα σε ακανόνιστες ώρες, των πελατών όπου γιάπηδες και νεόπλουτοι (ιδίως του είδους που ΔΕΝ επηρεάζονται από την κρίση) περιφέρονται σαν τις μύγες γύρω από τα malls.

Από την άλλη όμως, πάλι καλά με την κρίση ας βρουν και κάποια νέα άτομα δουλειά, γίνεται της τρελλής στην αγορά... Τώρα θα μου πεις με τι προσόντα θα βρουν όλα αυτά τα μαγαζιά πελάτες, έλα ντε... εδώ σε θέλω... :ohno:

efoson to andehei i topiki agora, kai ta 3 malls einai ok, kai elpizo ayto na to ipologisan oi idioktites tous.....

an theloume to marousi na ginei dithen emborikos komvos i kendro grafeion klp. prepei na ipologisei kaneis kai tin kinisi....an den iparhoun MMM i dromoi ti komvos na ginei?

Toulaxiston pali kala na lete pou antexoume en meso ikonomikis krisis. Tora oso anafora tosa mall se tosi mikri apostasi einai ontos poli periergo.
Oso gia to Mall Athens to 80%(eimai sxedon pepismenos gia auto) xrisimopoei ton ilektriko (Ton prosfono me to istoriko tou onoma an kai pleon einai metro giati prosopika mou aresei pio poli:)).

And its not for rich people (or at least not only). The real rich do not shop in Malls, no matter how much glitter they put. Its just not for teenagers hanging out after school (though you will see them there as well, i bet).
It's not one huge GUCCI, it has normal stores as well (Diesel, Nike, Zara, Germanos etc). And dont tell me that Accessorize or Bershka for example is for "rich" people... Its simply a 25+ mall, compared to 14-25 of The Mall.
If it was not targeting to the big masses as well, Zara group wouldnt be there with so many stores. And they know very well where they open and where not.

Good to have some perspective on this issue:nuts:

Sometimes the term 'luxury' is overused in here.

This Golden Hall looks nice, but it's essentially a tarted up upple-middle class at best mall trying to look more luxurious than what it actually is.

Doesn't look like there are so many high end stores at G.H; it has lego for godsake!!!

Are they charging 300 Euros more than everyone else for a standard set or collection?:lol:

And you are right that the rich tend to shop at boutique stores rather than malls.

i also agree with Skyduster and others that 'Golden Hall' is too much of a generic and boring name. i guess it's better than 'The Mall'(sorry but that still cracks me up), but they could have been more imaginative, and if not creative, at least more 'Greek' ;-)


ENGINEER: Correct that some Diesel items are expensive, but considering where most Diesel stuff is made, it's ridiculously overpriced. It should be much cheaper in Greece.

anyway, this GH is a good development. turned out better than i expected.

i'll have to visit when i'm in Greece next year(hopefully).

haha dont start with prices and costs my friend.....or you could make a comic strip with what some people are paying for ,say, shoes ...

then again, everything is worth what people are willing to pay for it.


If you want to pay 1000 euros for a handbag and you believe its actually normal, then so be it....

The best part is that some products gain value due to their price which distinguishes them!! A Ferrari wouldnt be a ferrari if it cost 800$, regardless of quality...

ENGINEER: Correct that some Diesel items are expensive, but considering where most Diesel stuff is made, it's ridiculously overpriced. It should be much cheaper in Greece.

Not only in Greece... Anyway that's the brand I like the most and I can say the quality is really good. Sometimes it looks not good cause that's the fashion these days...

And yes rich people will continue to buy their clothes from Kolonaki and I don't think that this is going to change ever...

I thought rich people took their private jets to shop in milan or london :-)

^^

hehe :lol:

I wish I could do that. Milan is one of my favourite places on earth.

I even like the weirdest highrise I ever saw in my life

http://www.weddingmapper.com/photos/1/14/73466_l.jpg

Truly weird building..looks like some mix of a commieblock and a gotham city building :-).as for milan, i haven't visited it yet but i've read it's a dull city..but you never know unless you visit it..

iiiyeeeeeeah

ehm it's a good shopping center though... heh

The new mall looks nice. There are quite a few luxury brands like Tod's, Stuart Weitzman, Bang & Olufsen, Brooks Brothers, Coach, LongChamp, Mulberry, Calvin Klein, etc. The overall look is good and the finishes are nice. I don't think this mall is going to cater only to the rich there is a wide range of shops that will cater to everyone's needs and budget. These types of ventures are good for our city though. It brings investment and jobs and it offers people a nice enviroment in which they can do their shopping. Getting to the mall is a different story though! :colgate:

^^

Indeed... I like the mall Athens much more though...

^^gm stis prwtes foto tou thread paratirisa ena glupto tou Botero eksw apo to ktirio, einai se monimi vasi ekei i apla topothetithike gia ta ekgainia?

^^

hehe :lol:

I wish I could do that. Milan is one of my favourite places on earth.

I even like the weirdest highrise I ever saw in my life

http://www.weddingmapper.com/photos/1/14/73466_l.jpg
engineer eisai diestramenos....:lol: