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BUTEMBO21 December 3rd, 2008, 02:32 PM The city of Mbuji-Mayi
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PPRD HQ in Mbuji -Mayi
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Cental Banc
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Mbuji-Mayi from the air.
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The E.N.D December 3rd, 2008, 02:47 PM Looks alright enough.Key sectors?
BUTEMBO21 December 3rd, 2008, 03:49 PM Looks alright enough.Key sectors?
Just Diamond and Food Staffs.
Due to Mobutu's Centralised Economy , and lack of infratucture.
Only South East and Western Congo are industrulised.
Now that the country is federalised and the province has started to keep 40% of diamond revenue things are starting to looking better now.
It's only been one year since the country has gone federal.
Before a 100% of the province's revenu used to go to the central government. Then the province stayed brock.
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BUTEMBO21 December 3rd, 2008, 05:43 PM Kananga is a city of 1 130,000 million peaple. making it the 4th largest .
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yosef December 3rd, 2008, 06:19 PM thanks for the pics.
BUTEMBO21 December 3rd, 2008, 06:50 PM Kananga train station.
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Lulua River around Kananga.
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Lulua River around Kananga
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Acrobatic fishing in Lulua River.
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BUTEMBO21 December 5th, 2008, 01:50 AM Outside Mbuji-Mayi City.
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BUTEMBO21 December 5th, 2008, 03:31 AM Mbuji-Mayi Airport.
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A small bridge Outside Mbuji-Mayi.
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preme3000 December 5th, 2008, 04:11 PM keep em coming dude, nice
Mulopwe December 5th, 2008, 06:13 PM Sad pictures , things have not change and futur does not look good either !
Mulopwe
Yupes December 8th, 2008, 02:51 AM Sad pictures , things have not change and futur does not look good either !
Mulopwe
Patient because the future is on their side,as A Wise Old Owl rhyme/poem. The spirit of optimism and commitment can never be overcame.
Mulopwe December 8th, 2008, 05:49 PM Yupes,
I hear you my brother. I have given up, with current leadership there is no hope. Both cities have no electricity or clean water....48 years after independence.
Peace,
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 December 9th, 2008, 03:20 AM Yupes,
I hear you my brother. I have given up, with current leadership there is no hope. Both cities have no electricity or clean water....48 years after independence.
Peace,
Mulopwe
Mulopwe , You know the kind of situation the country is in for the last 10 years.
How can you expect change in that kind of situation ? instead the country was destroyed with the help of Jean Pierre Bembe, By the Rwandese, Ugandese and Burundese.
Congo has just had 2 years of democracy, which is being drained back in the gutter.
I do agree with you on one thing , i'm losing faith in the new leadership because they can't beat Nkunda.
But you got to know one thing though. The country has gone Federal system now. and starting next year , there will be 26 provinces instead of 11 , and every province has to keep 40% of revenue.
Only 60% percent will go to the central gov.
Privatisation is being adopted slowly, but carefully.
South africans have Invested about $3 Billion , UAE $ 800 million, Now China $ 9 Billion .
In just 2 years 12 Billions have been invested in the country, and you have Brazil just opened a new office in Lubumbashi for investement in Steel and Iron business. Indian is about to build a hydroelectric DAM between Bandundu and Kasai Occ. , A new cement factory is to built by Kisangani, the Chinese are already building a 90 KM Lubumbashi -Kasumbalesa Freeway. A 95 Km asphalted road construction is now underway. another 75 Km road is under contruction the two in Bandundu region, a 35 Km Urban roads are being rebuild in Kananga.
There are build building Urban roads in Mbuji-Mayi also.
There is a 35 KM roads , Bukavu-Kavumu Airport under contruction.
The $ 2.2 Billion investement by South African Business Men is due to start in early 2009.
Likasi -Kolwezi Highway is under contruction.
Ndjili Airport- Gombe Freeway is to begin in early 2009.
The new Minister of Agruculture has ordered 700 tractors to relunch the Agruculture.
"Hopefully we are also going to have the Brazilans start their venture soon in Steel & Iron and Oil in Equateur, the Australians in Alluminum in Bas-Congo, Koreans in Methane Gas in Lake Kivu"
In all respect , please don't count Mobutu's 32 years . we don't need to focus on the past. It's already gone and we will not get back that time.
I know and undustand how you feel. all we have to do is learn from the past or we are going to repeat it.
These things aren't bad, are they?
Here is how provinces will be like in the next 3 years starting next year.
I personally think it's a good idea , there will be governed better than the big ones.
Good for development . Give it some time like YUPES said it.
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Carver02 December 9th, 2008, 12:12 PM Things are getting better, Mulopwe.
One of the things I've been following is the development of possibly the world's largest undeveloped copper/cobalt mine northwest of Lubumbashi. This will produce up to 250 million pounds of copper per year and 18 million pounds of cobalt per year. In addition to taxes and employment, Congo will benefit because Gecamines owns 17.5% of the operation directly. When copper goes back to $4 (it will get there) this will be awesome.
Kenguy December 9th, 2008, 02:37 PM Yupes,
I hear you my brother. I have given up, with current leadership there is no hope. Both cities have no electricity or clean water....48 years after independence.
Peace,
Mulopwe
^^
That won't be the situation for long. There are plenty of areas now being connected to the electricity grid.
Mulopwe December 9th, 2008, 06:52 PM Butembo21,
I was in Mbuji Mayi , Kananga and Kinshasa 4 months ago. Things are are not good at all. Clean water and eletricity is the basic. Imagine Mbuji Mayi has over 3 millions, Kananga 2 millions, regideso provide water sporadically at 4am each day for an hour and half.
The number street kids in Kinshasa is unbelievable. Many parents are unable to send theirs childrens in schools because of the fees. Country like ours, primary education should be free.
Look at what is happening in Kivu. Current leadership has failed. Incapable to organise dissent army or police force. Our mothers and sisters are being abuse daily by the so called CNDP.
Current leadership has failed. He is young and inexperience to lead vast and complex nation like ours.
Peace and respect to all,
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 December 9th, 2008, 11:45 PM Butembo21,
I was in Mbuji Mayi , Kananga and Kinshasa 4 months ago. Things are are not good at all. Clean water and eletricity is the basic. Imagine Mbuji Mayi has over 3 millions, Kananga 2 millions, regideso provide water sporadically at 4am each day for an hour and half.
The number street kids in Kinshasa is unbelievable. Many parents are unable to send theirs childrens in schools because of the fees. Country like ours, primary education should be free.
Look at what is happening in Kivu. Current leadership has failed. Incapable to organise dissent army or police force. Our mothers and sisters are being abuse daily by the so called CNDP.
Current leadership has failed. He is young and inexperience to lead vast and complex nation like ours.
Peace and respect to all,
Mulopwe
I totaly agree with you on all these issues, the Police , the Army, Education ,Elctricticy, Agruculture and Health,Espacialy in Big cities , since they all face the same problems.
Don't get me wrong ON THIS.
We can't have all this if we don't have the money, and we can't just invest in one or two things. They have to invest in every of those listed above.
We need to sell our minerals so that we have the money to rebuild, if we don't sell anything then we don't have the money and the result will continue to a sad story.
32 years of Mobutu's nightmare rule, 10 years of agressive and civil war.
It's not going to be easy as you ecpect, the country nedds foreign investements in order to get out the gutter.
Rebuilding a nation that has been destroyed and neglected like ours is no joke or a simple ride.
However, i like the current economic policies so far.
For me , what concerns me the most is Police and Army. We need a better trained , equiped , disciplined army and police force, all other things will be fixed if the current economic policies and growth continues.
If no one buys our minerals then we don't have the money .
Remember we need money for all these things to be reality, and the can't be done in one day, month or 2 or three years it will take some time.
Yupes December 11th, 2008, 11:01 PM Very interesting projects in the works, thank you Butembo21.
In many of the world's poorest countries, privatisation of essential public services has already taken place as a result of structural adjustment programmes imposed by the IMF and World Bank. The effects of this privatisation programme have been disastrous, as the World Bank itself admits.
The introduction of school fees where there was previously free education has driven many poor families to withdraw their children from school, while hospital fees have put basic health care beyond the reach of millions.
Water privatisation is just one example. The World Bank notes that water in Haiti's capital Port-au-Prince costs up to 10 times as much from the private sector as it does from the public supply, and that poor families in Mauritania now have to spend a fifth of their household income on water.
The other key privatisation which threatens the developing world is the privatisation of knowledge. At the same time as liberalisation has opened up access to the markets and resources of the developing world, the WTO's controversial TRIPs agreement (on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights) has closed down developing countries' access to the new technology and medical advances which could greatly benefit their people.
Yet the WTO aims to restrict the right of developing countries to produce cheaper drugs for their own people, forcing them instead to accept private expensive ownership of brand-named medicines through long patents.
Link (http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=134)
Mulopwe June 24th, 2009, 08:41 PM Commercial center. Mbuji Mayi 2009.
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Mulopwe June 24th, 2009, 08:44 PM Diamond trade center. Blvd Kabila. MB.M 2009
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BUTEMBO21 June 24th, 2009, 08:49 PM I can't wait so see Construction boom in this city.
I believe when Muji-Mayi will be connected to Lubumbashi in the south and Kinshasa to the West and Bukavu to the East Mbuji-Mayi will be take off really fast.
You guys hiding something.
BUTEMBO21 June 24th, 2009, 09:47 PM Mbuji-Mayi,
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Mulopwe June 25th, 2009, 07:02 PM Blvd Kabila. Mbuji Mayi 2009
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Mulopwe June 25th, 2009, 07:07 PM CCCT- Mbuji Mayi 2009
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BUTEMBO21 June 25th, 2009, 07:21 PM Things are hapenning in Mbuji-Mayi so far. I can't wait to see Mbuji-Mayi - Lubumbashi, Mbuji-Mayi-Kinshasa and Mbuji-Mayi-Bukavu Interstates Highways. That will make Mbuji-Mayi even biger and economic boom.
Mulopwe June 25th, 2009, 08:56 PM New Apartment and office complex. Mbuji Mayi place de la poste Juin 2009.
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Mulopwe June 25th, 2009, 08:58 PM New hotel U/C place de la poste
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Mulopwe June 25th, 2009, 08:59 PM Kin Bondo (Commercial center) MB. M Juin 2009
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Mulopwe June 29th, 2009, 07:37 PM Sun City, MB.M 2009
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MBA-Congo June 29th, 2009, 07:50 PM First trip home I mistaken Mbuji-Mayi for Lubumbashi and got off the airplane early. I still like Mbuji-Mayi moreso than Lubumbashi. So what did you find out about the future of Kasai?
Mulopwe July 1st, 2009, 09:18 PM MBA Congo-
Miba is out business and stone value is way down due to world recession. Large size of population went back to cultivating whatever they can .... it is going to be a long and penible adjustment for a lot kasaien.
There is a new private power company (Hydro Force) that took over production and distribution electricity. So soon , there is chance that those who have money $1000.00 for connection will have access to power 24/7
Private sector is active in construction and retails.
Mulopwe
Mulopwe July 1st, 2009, 09:44 PM Nostalgie!!!!!
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MBA-Congo July 1st, 2009, 10:41 PM MBA Congo-
Miba is out business and stone value is way down due to world recession. Large size of population went back to cultivating whatever they can .... it is going to be a long and penible adjustment for a lot kasaien.
There is a new private power company (Hydro Force) that took over production and distribution electricity. So soon , there is chance that those who have money $1000.00 for connection will have access to power 24/7
Private sector is active in construction and retails.
Mulopwe
Who owns Hydro Force? $1000:lol: And they haven't hung him yet, then the service is still new and grid isn't in place. Bapaya mingi bakoti kona, always wanted to know? Batu baza kovanda ndgenini na Kasai, it's one of the places I have actually thought about moving to or place nako somba ndaku and settle in?
BUTEMBO21 July 13th, 2009, 05:46 AM Mbuji-Mayi.
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Mulopwe July 13th, 2009, 05:07 PM Butembo21-
Where did you get them. It appears to be Baudine 1, 2, ,3,4 and part of Ville Miba.
Thanks,
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 July 13th, 2009, 05:11 PM i got them from panoramio website. it's like google earth.
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Mulopwe September 18th, 2009, 04:38 PM Quelle belle et charmante ville ! I spent part of my youth in this city. Beautiful. visionnez un extrait ici: http://www.youtube. ..com/watch? v=108mv4cFdWs
Kananga malandi wa shinga ...
Mulopwe
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Mulopwe September 18th, 2009, 04:40 PM http://www.youtube. ..com/watch? v=108mv4cFdWs
MBA-Congo September 24th, 2009, 09:45 AM 108mv4cFdWs
Nyota just recently had a coverage of aboy that ran away from Mbuji Mayi cause of his step mother, the kid ran away to Lubumbashi and lived in the streets for a whole year the kid is like nine or ten, how the hell did he do it? He was given a free flight back to his parents recently, you should of heard him speaking tshiluba and swahili puts me to shame that I can't even remember a lick of kiluba. But I'm going to end up marrying a kasain anyhow, it's good to have a home with drama, keeps the blood pumping.
Mulopwe September 24th, 2009, 06:14 PM MBA Congo-
Thanks posting the video. It is the same film I tried to post early with no success.
PS. Good news, Hydro Force finally got one turbine at Tshiala 3 MW up running. They have lower connection fees to between $ 300 - 600 depending on the location. As of today, little over 3000 customers in the city connected apart Ville Miba resident.
Mulopwe
Yupes January 22nd, 2010, 11:42 AM http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs512.snc3/26879_426839006223_31120386223_5659915_319729_n.jpg
Lake Munkambo, outskirts of Kananga and Mbuji-Mayi
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The soil in this part of the country is quite red, and it appears that there is a lot of it in this stream.
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Yupes May 14th, 2010, 02:48 PM Mulunguyi Cha Cha Cha elementary school
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screenshotartist May 15th, 2010, 02:13 AM I admire this city.
Flat with well oriented streets and paved roads. The only thing missing is some new modern construction in a large number.
The city is lucky it is not possessed by Hills like Bukavu
ladythomas May 29th, 2010, 03:09 AM Hi,
I am an Australian wanting to start building boarding schools in DRC. I was considering Kananga as a possible area and was hoping to hear a bit about the conditions of the area from people who have actually been there instead of from statistics. I was also wondering what short term aid would be most useful in this area?
Many thanks
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July 20101
Mulopwe
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The above pictures are taken in Mbuji Mayi not to confuse with Kananga or Kisangani
Mulopwe
Pius August 2nd, 2010, 12:56 PM This street of Kananga/Mbuji Mayi(?) looks much cleaner than many streets in Kinshasa: there are no plastic bags littering the street. It would look even better if there were sidewalks and …no sand.
BUTEMBO21 August 2nd, 2010, 03:40 PM Kinshasa is the only super dirty city in this country. Mbuji-Mayi is almost 3 million and it has no industry other than MIBA (which is non existent for the last 3 years or so.
u.g boy August 2nd, 2010, 04:49 PM Kinshasa is the only super dirty city in this country. Mbuji-Mayi is almost 3 million and it has no industry other than MIBA (which is non existent for the last 3 years or so.
kinshsa is only dirty because in my opinion here was not enough money to take care of its high population. only now there is construction works for rods and building go back 10 years and the city didnt have much going on now it booming.thats my opinion
BUTEMBO21 August 2nd, 2010, 06:05 PM ^^ Those 2 Photos are in Kisangani, not any of Kananga or Mbuji-Mayi.
BUTEMBO21 August 2nd, 2010, 06:12 PM kinshsa is only dirty because in my opinion here was not enough money to take care of its high population. only now there is construction works for rods and building go back 10 years and the city didnt have much going on now it booming.thats my opinion
What does plastic bags have to do with construction? Kinshasa is super dirty because there is no trash collection and there is no regulation for small sellers, they are all over the city on street sides. instead of being in the market or indoor.
Kinshasa has the money to keep the city clean, its a matter if organization and better management of collected founds.
Kinshasa makes more money than all states (except Katanga state).
Don't tell me Kinshasa is unable to get $5-10 million/year for just maintaining streets clean and collecting the trash.
Keeping a city clean is not hard. Its a matter of having a state or city government thats clean in the head and mind. Not big belly crack head governor. That city/state has no human government. It's better to have a dog than that moron governor. At least a dog knows it duty and what's expect of it.
Mulopwe August 2nd, 2010, 07:38 PM Here are few service station....Mbuji Mayi July 2010
Mulopwe
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kaps76 August 2nd, 2010, 09:37 PM Thanks Mulopwe for the pics. Definitely much cleaner than Kinshasa. Hope to see more pictures.
How do you find the city comparing to your last visit. Has things improved, any progress towards reconstruction.
Thanks and enjoy your stay home.
u.g boy August 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM What does plastic bags have to do with construction? Kinshasa is super dirty because there is no trash collection and there is no regulation for small sellers, they are all over the city on street sides. instead of being in the market or indoor.
Kinshasa has the money to keep the city clean, its a matter if organization and better management of collected founds.
Kinshasa makes more money than all states (except Katanga state).
Don't tell me Kinshasa is unable to get $5-10 million/year for just maintaining streets clean and collecting the trash.
Keeping a city clean is not hard. Its a matter of having a state or city government thats clean in the head and mind. Not big belly crack head governor. That city/state has no human government. It's better to have a dog than that moron governor. At least a dog knows it duty and what's expect of it.
i was making a diffrent point . what u said is what i meant but i was talking about something else any i get what you were saying.
Mulopwe August 3rd, 2010, 04:49 PM Thanks Mulopwe for the pics. Definitely much cleaner than Kinshasa. Hope to see more pictures.
How do you find the city comparing to your last visit. Has things improved, any progress towards reconstruction.
Thanks and enjoy your stay home.
I am back in the state. Things are slowly changing.... few pave roads since my last visit. Sengamine is back in business. A lots of motorcycle in circulation (4016 Moto Taxi). Few construction here and there but nothing major. Water supply continue to be a problem. Hydro-force is doing good job; over 11000 now connected to the grids. Here are few more pictures.
Thanks,
Mulopwe
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New office and apartment complex....future headquarter of hydro-force
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Central Bank
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Private homes
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New pave road
BUTEMBO21 August 3rd, 2010, 05:10 PM Thats nice Mulopwe, thanks for the pictures.
I think MM will take off faster when Connected to Lubumbashi, Kinshasa and Bukavu by the raods , its in the center of the country from all angles.
Mulopwe August 4th, 2010, 04:44 PM Here are few hotels in Mbuji-Mayi. July 2010
Mulopwe
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Hotel Tanko
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Hotel Equinox
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Hotel Kabe-Congo ....notice, it is being expanded.
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Future Grand Hotel de MBM
screenshotartist August 4th, 2010, 11:11 PM Congolese Cities are great.
Only thing the puts this place down is the construction of sidewalks, and the overall salinity. If the sides of the roads were paved it would increase the overall salinity and no mud when it rains.
BUTEMBO21 August 5th, 2010, 07:49 AM I admire this city.
Flat with well oriented streets and paved roads. The only thing missing is some new modern construction in a large number.
The city is lucky it is not possessed by Hills like Bukavu
But in Bukavu you can't get fat.:lol: Those hills are more than going to the gym.:hahaha: of course if you don't drive.
screenshotartist August 5th, 2010, 08:24 AM But in Bukavu you can't get fat.:lol: Those hills are more than going to the gym.:hahaha: of course if you don't drive.
Even if you do drive
There are places in Bukavu where Cars can't get and when it is wet be prepared to do some Micheal Jackson Moves and hugging the ground.
It does not surprise me that now in the prosperous, easily accesible by car suburbs like muhumba, Nguba, and ndendere a piece of land can cost up to $200 000
BUTEMBO21 August 5th, 2010, 09:31 AM Even if you do drive
There are places in Bukavu where Cars can't get and when it is wet be prepared to do some Micheal Jackson Moves and hugging the ground.
It does not surprise me that now in the prosperous, easily accesible by car suburbs like muhumba, Nguba, and ndendere a piece of land can cost up to $200 000
I hate it when its raining there:bash: Just like in Butembo rain + hills:bash:, But Bukavu hills are a little bit of an exageration . I also hate that red soil.
Thats why i love Gom for like. You don't have to worry about Rain, mud and hills. its flat and rocks everywhere. But that Volcano is worst than them all. If you go to Kisangani its very nice with the river and the massive forests, but the Humidity is worst. Just like Kampala.
@ Mulopwe,
Does MBM has a very high Humidity?
Mulopwe August 6th, 2010, 05:14 PM I hate it when its raining there:bash: Just like in Butembo rain + hills:bash:, But Bukavu hills are a little bit of an exageration . I also hate that red soil.
Thats why i love Gom for like. You don't have to worry about Rain, mud and hills. its flat and rocks everywhere. But that Volcano is worst than them all. If you go to Kisangani its very nice with the river and the massive forests, but the Humidity is worst. Just like Kampala.
@ Mulopwe,
Does MBM has a very high Humidity?
MBM is mild....not hot and humid like Mbandaka , Kisangani and Kin.
Mulopwe
Mulopwe August 6th, 2010, 05:44 PM http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx91/MabikaI/DSC01919.jpg
Blvd Mobutu ...Ville Miba...dead no traffic
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Mulopwe
Pius August 6th, 2010, 05:49 PM @ Mulopwe
Is MIBA operating again?
Mulopwe August 6th, 2010, 06:07 PM @ Mulopwe
Is MIBA operating again?
Miba is bankrupt .....everything is close. However, Sen-gamine is back in the business and artisan production is up.
Mulopwe
Pius August 6th, 2010, 06:40 PM I heard Kabila promised to inject fresh capital into MIBA so that it can resume its activities albeit on a smaller scale. Was it a hoax? If so, that would not surprise me.
Mulopwe August 6th, 2010, 07:08 PM I heard Kabila promised to inject fresh capital into MIBA so that it can resume its activities albeit on a smaller scale. Was it a hoax? If so, that would not surprise me.
so far not a penny. As always,empty promise.
Mulopwe
Pius August 6th, 2010, 07:47 PM Gecamine and Miba, two flagships of the Congolese industry, have been siphoned to death by a predator state that proves incapable of saving its geese that laid golden eggs. In the early 1990s it was suggested to open both companies to private investors. Some so-called “nationalist” politicians protested vehemently arguing that it was tantamount to a sell-off of national heritage. Where are they today? I am not hearing any suggestions as to how to bring these companies back to business.
Mulopwe September 1st, 2010, 07:01 PM Exit to Mwene Nditu and Kabinda
Mulopwe
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Mulopwe September 1st, 2010, 07:12 PM Over populated due 1990s incident.
Mulopwe
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kaps76 September 2nd, 2010, 03:59 AM Thanks again Mulopwe for the beautiful pictures of Mbuji Mayi. Definitely looks much better than I thought.
LainiNyanghe September 2nd, 2010, 05:42 PM Gecamine and Miba, two flagships of the Congolese industry, have been siphoned to death by a predator state that proves incapable of saving its geese that laid golden eggs. In the early 1990s it was suggested to open both companies to private investors. Some so-called “nationalist” politicians protested vehemently arguing that it was tantamount to a sell-off of national heritage. Where are they today? I am not hearing any suggestions as to how to bring these companies back to business.
A qui profitent les revenus de l'exploitation minière des dragues privées au polygone de la Minière de Bakwanga (Miba), située dans le Kasaï Oriental? Où vont les recettes de cette activité qui fait perdre beaucoup d'argent à cette société minière ? A qui appartiennent ces dragues ?
Telles sont les questions de la délégation syndicale de la Miba qui tire la sonnette d'alarme sans qu'une réponse satisfaisante ne soit donnée du côté des autorités tant nationales que provinciales. Car, elles gardent tous un silence de carpe devant cette affaire qui fait déjà grand bruit dans les milieux financiers internationaux.
D'après les membres de la délégation syndicale de la Miba, des dragues des particuliers ont investi l'enceinte de la société depuis sept mois. Ce sont ces dragues des privés qui exploitent désormais du diamant dans le polygone, au vu et au su des autorités tant provinciales que nationales.
Face à cette situation, en date du 22 juillet courant, tout comme dans son mémorandum du 17 juin, la délégation syndicale a fait état de sa préoccupation, tout en se remettant à l'autorité du chef de l'Etat pour une évacuation sans condition de ces dragues de la concession minière. Car, la plupart des terrains d'exploitation de la Miba sont occupés par des privés qui se livrent à l'exploitation artisanale de diamants.
Inquiétudes
Pour Nado Ntumba, 2eme vice-président de la délégation syndicale de la Miba, cette situation amenuise les chances de rassurer davantage les investisseurs qui cherchent à placer leurs capitaux frais en vue de la relance la Miba.
"Ces dragues arrivées à Mbuji Mayi sont en train de réduire les chances de la Miba d'obtenir les investissements venant de l'extérieur. On diminue les réserves en diamant et cela ne va plus rassurer les investisseurs", a précisé le 2eme vice-président de la délégation syndicale de la Miba
Mais au ministère provincial des Mines, indique notre source, l'on évoque l'incapacité juridique d'attaquer un jugement rendu par les cours et tribunaux, étant donné que ce jugement avait donné feu vert aux propriétaires de ces dragues de bien " exercer " dans le polygone.
Selon un responsable provincial qui s'est confié à radio okapi, ces dragues travaillent avec une coopérative qui, jusque-là, n'a pas obtenu ses certificats de petites mines. Le seul document qui la maintient là-bas, c'est le jugement prononcé que le ministère provincial ne peut pas violer. Il appartenait donc à la Miba qui est le concessionnaire de demander l'annulation du jugement.
Par ailleurs, le ministère provincial des Mines révèle la présence de plus de vingt dragues qui exploitent sous les eaux de la province, en dehors de la concession Miba, sans aucun document et dont les revenus échappent au trésor public.
Cette situation porte donc un coup dur à cette société minière qui ne produit quasiment plus rien. La situation de cette société publique d'exploitation de diamant industriel dans la province du Kasaï Oriental est telle que si elle était privée, elle serait déclarée en faillite il y a plus de trois ans.
Pendant ce temps, les employés de la plus grande société publique du Kasaï Oriental restent impayés depuis plus de 20 mois. Des familles entières vivent comme des sous hommes et dont les parents sont incapables de subvenir aux besoins élémentaires de leurs progénitures. La situation sociale des agents de la Miba est donc catastrophique depuis que la société a commencé son décrescendo jusqu'à l'état actuel de coma. Toutes les activités ou presque, de la société minière existent que de nom. Il n'y a presque plus de production comme dans le passé. Mais sous peu, le gouvernement est intervenu avec une bouée d'oxygène en octroyant 20 millions de dollars américains à la Minière de Bakwanga.
Il sied de rappeler qu'en temps normal, la Miba produisait jusqu'à environ 600 mille carats le mois, toutes qualités confondues. En termes de devise, la Minière de Bakwanga produisait 10 millions de dollars américains. Les 25 % de cette masse monétaire, soit 2,5 millions de dollars couvraient le besoin de payement de salaire des 6 mille travailleurs (environ) que compte la société.
Selon une source loquace, le reste des millions de dollars allaient en direction des fournisseurs et du gouvernement.
Kinshasa, 29/07/2010 (L'Observateur/MCN, via www.mediacongo.net)
Mulopwe September 2nd, 2010, 05:59 PM MB.M July 2010
Mulopwe
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Pius September 2nd, 2010, 07:42 PM Additional economic activities must be developed in Eastern Kasai for the province to be lifted out of a quasi self-imposed misery. A rent-seeking economy based on diamond revenue is a curse, not a blessing, to the province. Even if MIBA were managed properly and all “private” diamond dealers were brought under state control, the province would still not be in a position to ensure its economic survival. The limited diamond reserves, the population growth and the volatility of the market price reduce profitability and make it structurally impossible for the diamond sector alone to lift the whole province out of poverty.
Why not develop the agriculture sector? The province can grow, even export wheat. Why not invest in food-processing industry or in light industry in general?
There are enough rich Kasaians who should set an example by investing their diamond revenues in their province instead of bragging in Kinshasa or buying mansions abroad.
BUTEMBO21 September 3rd, 2010, 11:17 AM Additional economic activities must be developed in Eastern Kasai for the province to be lifted out of a quasi self-imposed misery. A rent-seeking economy based on diamond revenue is a curse, not a blessing, to the province. Even if MIBA were managed properly and all “private” diamond dealers were brought under state control, the province would still not be in a position to ensure its economic survival. The limited diamond reserves, the population growth and the volatility of the market price reduce profitability and make it structurally impossible for the diamond sector alone to lift the whole province out of poverty.
I have repeated that so many times.
The cure for Congo is not minerals. Agriculture is the cure. Look at Indonesia, Viet-Nam, Maleysia ect... they export rice and just palm Oil all over the world and we export minerals. but we are poorer than them.
Why not develop the agriculture sector? The province can grow, even export wheat. Why not invest in food-processing industry or in light industry in general?
There are enough rich Kasaians who should set an example by investing their diamond revenues in their province instead of bragging in Kinshasa or buying mansions abroad.
I have brought up this agriculture investment countless times in my life. But sadly most Congolese view Agriculture as the poor man's job (Just like the rest of South of Sahara Africa).
No country can become wealthy and industrial without Agriculture. Now days the agriculture industry is a massive world business. Look at Brazil, South Africa, US, they make more money from Agriculture than any other industry.
There is no industry that employs more people indirectly than Agriculture in developed and developing countries.
Diamond will always end in the hands of the few in the CG (Central government) and the provincial officials. People will ever barely see anything.
If they use the supposed 10 million dollars , they could use 3 million dollars to buy tractors, then use the 7 million dollars farm.
But to have a successful agriculture, you need infrastructures in place. How would you evacuate the products for exports? even just from the rural to the city?
Every province can invest in agriculture with only 200,000 Hectares each for commercial agriculture. Financed by the provincial governments. Corn wheat Soy Bean,
Then small farming (15-50 hectares/family willing to farm Veggies, Potatoes, Fruits, Rice, Cotton).
We need infrastructures to make that happen, There are no excuses why we can't do it.
Diamonds just involves a couple hundreds dudes. how much development is that?
Even the other mining. Look at Katanga.
Mulopwe September 7th, 2010, 08:33 PM I have repeated that so many times.
The cure for Congo is not minerals. Agriculture is the cure. Look at Indonesia, Viet-Nam, Maleysia ect... they export rice and just palm Oil all over the world and we export minerals. but we are poorer than them.
I have brought up this agriculture investment countless times in my life. But sadly most Congolese view Agriculture as the poor man's job (Just like the rest of South of Sahara Africa).
No country can become wealthy and industrial without Agriculture. Now days the agriculture industry is a massive world business. Look at Brazil, South Africa, US, they make more money from Agriculture than any other industry.
There is no industry that employs more people indirectly than Agriculture in developed and developing countries.
Diamond will always end in the hands of the few in the CG (Central government) and the provincial officials. People will ever barely see anything.
If they use the supposed 10 million dollars , they could use 3 million dollars to buy tractors, then use the 7 million dollars farm.
But to have a successful agriculture, you need infrastructures in place. How would you evacuate the products for exports? even just from the rural to the city?
Every province can invest in agriculture with only 200,000 Hectares each for commercial agriculture. Financed by the provincial governments. Corn wheat Soy Bean,
Then small farming (15-50 hectares/family willing to farm Veggies, Potatoes, Fruits, Rice, Cotton).
We need infrastructures to make that happen, There are no excuses why we can't do it.
Diamonds just involves a couple hundreds dudes. how much development is that?
Even the other mining. Look at Katanga.
How can you expand or develop others industries without dependable source of energy ?
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 September 7th, 2010, 08:50 PM How can you expand or develop others industries without dependable source of energy ?
Mulopwe
Thats why mentioned INFRASTRUCTURES (Energy , Roads, Rail). I know i should have been specific.
We need infrastructures to make that happen, There are no excuses why we can't do it.
But electricity alone is the driver of the modern industrial developed world we have today.
However. Just for agriculture output or mass productions alone, one doesn't need electricity. Uganda an agroculture is Surplus country though the lectricity is only available to 15% only. Malawi is a Corn surplus country as well.
There are no excuses why this country can't be a surplus in this age. i know we were once.
But now its embarrassing. This government is ......
Albert1313 September 8th, 2010, 01:38 AM great country
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BUTEMBO21 September 8th, 2010, 09:56 AM Mulopwe,
You don't need electricity to mass produce corn, soy bean, rice etc.. Nor do You need electricity to transport the mass production.
Of course you need electricity to transform or process certain foods productions.
You can't have a successful agriculture if there is not Roads.
If in my province i have 10 million people and then you give me a choice to produce 30 million Carats of Diamond/year or 15 million Tonnes of corn or beans or rice/year.
I will choose 15 million tonnes of corn or beans or rice. I wouldn't even need electricity to produce this. and I will employ waaaaaay more people because of this industry that i can with Diamond and have a more balanced distribution of wealth.
Mulopwe September 8th, 2010, 06:02 PM Mulopwe,
You don't need electricity to mass produce corn, soy bean, rice etc.. Nor do You need electricity to transport the mass production.
Of course you need electricity to transform or process certain foods productions.
You can't have a successful agriculture if there is not Roads.
If in my province i have 10 million people and then you give me a choice to produce 30 million Carats of Diamond/year or 15 million Tonnes of corn or beans or rice/year.
I will choose 15 million tonnes of corn or beans or rice. I wouldn't even need electricity to produce this. and I will employ waaaaaay more people because of this industry that i can with Diamond and have a more balanced distribution of wealth.
For your information, Grand kasai produce enough corn and cassava (Self-sufficient). My point is that without electricity, it will be difficult to transform these product to add value and increase producers income.
Mulopwe
preme3000 September 8th, 2010, 07:02 PM Mulopwe, thanks for the pics, the hotels were a nice surprise.
BUTEMBO21 September 8th, 2010, 09:24 PM For your information, Grand kasai produce enough corn and cassava (Self-sufficient). My point is that without electricity, it will be difficult to transform these product to add value and increase producers income.
Mulopwe
I know they self sufficient and know the production can easily be raised. Thats why i said that Roads must be built. But the diamonds have ended in few people's pockets , we all know that. Both Kasais gets almost nothing from the production.
The majority of people never profited from the production.
However: I'm not a big fan of mineral run economy . I prefer agriculture because it benefits most people. Unlike minerals that end up in Central Government Dinosaurs' mouths.
Mulopwe September 28th, 2010, 09:49 PM http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx91/MabikaI/DSC01855.jpg
Cathedrale Bonzulu
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Rond Point Etoile
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Bio-Congo
MBM 2010
Mulopwe
243.cd October 30th, 2010, 02:06 PM being a muluba, raised out side my country, never been to the kasai provinces before? i realy would like to be seeing more and more pictures from my homeland!!!!!!!!!!
Nijal October 31st, 2010, 05:59 PM Merci pour les photos.
A ce qu'il paraît, MBuji-Mayi est la ville la plus chère de la RDC... devant Kinshasa!
Karavia November 1st, 2010, 10:25 AM Merci pour les photos.
A ce qu'il paraît, MBuji-Mayi est la ville la plus chère de la RDC... devant Kinshasa!
Could be but because there is nothing. La rareté fait que tout devient cher et précieux.
Mulopwe November 1st, 2010, 05:28 PM Could be but because there is nothing. La rareté fait que tout devient cher et précieux.
Depuis la fermeture de la Miba;bcp des choses ont changer. Des jeunnes gens s'interressent des plus en plus aux activites agricoles ... y'a des petites societes des transformations des produits agricoles etc.... Les prix des aliments de base ont sensiblement baisser.
Mulopwe
Karavia November 1st, 2010, 06:43 PM Depuis la fermeture de la Miba;bcp des choses ont changer. Des jeunnes gens s'interressent des plus en plus aux activites agricoles ... y'a des petits societes de transformations des produits agricoles etc.... Les prix des aliments de base ont sensiblement baisser.
Mulopwe
Dieu merci! C'est dommage, il a fallu atteindre l'extrême pour que les gens se réveillent! Pas seulement au Kasai mais partout ailleurs au Congo. Ici je pense que c'est qui est cher, ce sont les produits importés, manufacturés vu le coût du transport.
Nijal November 1st, 2010, 06:53 PM Ici je pense que c'est qui est cher, ce sont les produits importés, manufacturés vu le coût du transport.
Oui. A Lubumbashi les produits arrivent de la Zambie, et la route est bonne jusqu'à Kasumbalesa, à la frontière. Mais pour aller de Lubumbashi jusqu'au Kasaï, pas vraiment de route bitumée... Dur! Mais peut-être que les produits arrivent de Kinshasa ou de l'Angola... Qu'en pensez-vous?
Karavia November 1st, 2010, 07:11 PM Oui. A Lubumbashi les produits arrivent de la Zambie, et la route est bonne jusqu'à Kasumbalesa, à la frontière. Mais pour aller de Lubumbashi jusqu'au Kasaï, pas vraiment de route bitumée... Dur! Mais peut-être que les produits arrivent de Kinshasa ou de l'Angola... Qu'en pensez-vous?
Le coût est encore très élevé car arrivant par voie aérienne. La seule bonne solution durable et peu couteuse est le réhabilitation de la voie ferroviaire, le Katanga , le Maniena et les deux Kasais en profiteront largement. A nouveau comme le management semble n'est pas être inscrit dans les gênes de nos dirigeants, on subit ...
Mulopwe November 1st, 2010, 10:43 PM Oui. A Lubumbashi les produits arrivent de la Zambie, et la route est bonne jusqu'à Kasumbalesa, à la frontière. Mais pour aller de Lubumbashi jusqu'au Kasaï, pas vraiment de route bitumée... Dur! Mais peut-être que les produits arrivent de Kinshasa ou de l'Angola... Qu'en pensez-vous?
La plus part des produits manufacturer provienent de la Zambie est Lubumbashi. Un sac de ciment qui se vent a $14 partout ailleurs est vendu a MBM a $30-50 dollars ...terrible !
Neamoin, y'a une brasserie , Sogakor qui produit des boissons sucre , 4 grand boulangeries , usine de fabrication de glace etc...
Mulopwe
Mulopwe November 3rd, 2010, 07:01 PM Oui. A Lubumbashi les produits arrivent de la Zambie, et la route est bonne jusqu'à Kasumbalesa, à la frontière. Mais pour aller de Lubumbashi jusqu'au Kasaï, pas vraiment de route bitumée... Dur! Mais peut-être que les produits arrivent de Kinshasa ou de l'Angola... Qu'en pensez-vous?
Voici la reponse.
Mulopwe
Augmentation de 16% de la production agricole au Kasaï Oriental
Mbuji-Mayi, 01/11(ACP).- Une augmentation de 16% a été enregistrée sur la production agricole dans la province du Kasaï Oriental, grâce à la mécanisation de l’agriculture, au recours aux tracteurs dans les différents villages, a déclaré le ministre provincial de l'agriculture devant l'assemblée provinciale. Le ministre provincial a souligné que la mécanisation de l'agriculture a permis de combler le déficit alimentaire à cause de la culture manuelle jusque là pratiquée par les paysans qui ne pouvaient augmenter les superficies, et dont la production ne servait qu'à une partie de l'alimentation. Anaclet Mbuyi Cileo, ministre de l'Agriculture répondait ainsi à une question orale du député Jean de Dieu Kalombo wa Mpunga, sur l'impact du labour mécanique et la visibilité des champs du gouvernement provincial et de ses membres. Pour ce qui est de la distribution des tracteurs aux paysans, des frais sont exigés comme contribution des paysans à la maintenance des engins. Il est vrai que tous les paysans n'ont pas facilement accès à ces tracteurs, à cause des frais dépassant leurs bourses, mais qu'il est installé dans les différents territoires, des services d'encadrement technique du secteur agricole. Quant à la question sur la visibilité des champs du gouvernement provincial, le ministre de l'agriculture a affirmé que des vastes étendues de champs existent dans le territoire de Ngandajika, choisi ainsi à cause de la fertilité de son sol et des bonnes conditions climatiques.
Mulopwe November 16th, 2010, 06:05 PM Chers tous,
La ville de Mbujimayi va fêter avant la fin de l'année son cinquantenaire. Un siteweb a été créé et mis en place à ce propos. Visitez à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.mbujimayi.org/
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 November 16th, 2010, 06:24 PM Chers tous,
La ville de Mbujimayi va fêter avant la fin de l'année son cinquantenaire. Un siteweb a été créé et mis en place à ce propos. Visitez à l'adresse suivante :
http://www.mbujimayi.org/
Mulopwe
Good one. Thanks.
BTW. What is Tshintunga meas? (You know , the Lingala Facile word)
I thought its means "a basket".
screenshotartist November 17th, 2010, 01:43 AM Good one. Thanks.
BTW. What is Tshintunga meas? (You know , the Lingala Facile word)
I thought its means "a basket".
It sounded, Like "Kitunga" to me aswell :lol: which means Basket
But I thought it was a Lingala word which I did not know the meaning
Yupes November 20th, 2010, 08:47 PM http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4363/mbuji27.jpg
Tour de contrôle de Mbuji-Mayi/ Mbuji-Mayi control tower
kaps76 November 26th, 2010, 01:33 AM Here is a video of President Kabila latest visit in MbujiMayi and the chaotic status of the N2 from Mbujimaji to Babinda, about 150 km long. The president made a promise to have this road repaired in 2006, and he is back now with the same promise. Hopefully, this time, something will truly happen.
Mulopwe, did you get a chance to pass by this road during your last visit?
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Mulopwe November 26th, 2010, 05:51 PM Here is a video of President Kabila latest visit in MbujiMayi and the chaotic status of the N2 from Mbujimaji to Babinda, about 150 km long. The president made a promise to have this road repaired in 2006, and he is back now with the same promise. Hopefully, this time, something will truly happen.
Mulopwe, did you get a chance to pass by this road during your last visit?
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Kaps76,
No I did not get a chance to pass by this Road. I hope this time, they will do something about it.
Thanks,
Mulopwe
preme3000 November 26th, 2010, 11:49 PM This guy won't build anything up, it won't happen. If as you say he promised to fix the road in 2006, and he is not being held accountable for not delivering, what makes you think anything will be done now? The only way things will take shape is because of the elections then after he guarantees his victory work will stop. Token gestures wins votes.
I came across this interesting read with regards to the state of roads in DRC, very good on the ground insight
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50799
BUTEMBO21 November 29th, 2010, 10:15 PM It sounded, Like "Kitunga" to me aswell :lol: which means Basket
Exactly my thinking.:lol:
But I thought it was a Lingala word which I did not know the meaning
I think its in Tshiluba .
Mulopwe November 16th, 2011, 10:29 PM http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx91/MabikaI/CongoTrip242.jpg
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Mulopwe
MBA-Congo November 16th, 2011, 11:08 PM I see your already home, the march is on.... tshitunga!!!!!!!!!!
BUTEMBO21 November 17th, 2011, 02:45 AM Thanks Mulopwe,
That Anevue can be expanded to a 2x3 by getting rid of the useless middle divider.
Anywhow, how many main roads does MM has?
Karavia November 17th, 2011, 11:13 AM Thanks Mulopwe,
That Anevue can be expanded to a 2x3 by getting rid of the useless middle divider.
Anywhow, how many main roads does MM has?
Depending on the traffic but I will advise to use this space for parking instead of expanding
bandundu November 17th, 2011, 12:13 PM This guy won't build anything up, it won't happen. If as you say he promised to fix the road in 2006, and he is not being held accountable for not delivering, what makes you think anything will be done now? The only way things will take shape is because of the elections then after he guarantees his victory work will stop. Token gestures wins votes.
I came across this interesting read with regards to the state of roads in DRC, very good on the ground insight
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50799
What is the provincial government doing to repair the roads, why only rely on the central government. Only if all the governers where like Katumbi can you imagine how far congo could have been
MBA-Congo November 17th, 2011, 02:47 PM Katanga has always had sane governers, really good governers that know at a heartbeat someone will be on their ass. Only difference between now and then is Mobuto. From 97 till present Katanga had opened up and more resources are at our disposal.
bandundu November 17th, 2011, 03:19 PM @ MBA- Congo- So that is why you decided to open your big fat mouth and insult everyone in this forum. Be careful darling one day the axe might just fall on your beloved Katanga
MBA-Congo November 17th, 2011, 04:53 PM Name me one bad governor from Katanga? How am I insulting people I want the same for everyone, people shouldn't sit idle you have blood pumping through your viens. You give credit where its due but when it comes to moral standing you don't follow the corrupt. Take for example your president Zuma if he riped you off one dollar will you look at him the same? Congolese have this mentality were its okay to take a little for yourself even if it ain't your money. What did the former Govenor of Kasai do, he riped off MIBA like theirs no tommorow and people still like him. and when you ask why most will say "look at his car, look at his house, iko na Gulfstream, mama batoto yaki are in France", the mentality that got MIBA hijacked right infront of their eyes now they want to blame the central government get the fuck out of here. Mentality we don't want to see anywhere in Katanga and every governor knows well Katangais ain't sold we are simple folk you mess with simplicity we'll give you a hardcore boot. Thats the mentality Congo needs.
BUTEMBO21 November 17th, 2011, 04:56 PM @ MBA- Congo- So that is why you decided to open your big fat mouth and insult everyone in this forum. Be careful darling one day the axe might just fall on your beloved Katanga
I do not tolerate insults on other members. warning one.
bandundu November 17th, 2011, 06:17 PM @Butembo, what was insulting about what I said, you are being unreasonable, How many insulting words has MBA Congo used and how many warning has he received. Indeed the is preferential treatment in this forum
@MBA Congo- I am referring to some of the insulting words you used in other discussion especially when your argument is challenged. You sometime come across as arrogant.
BUTEMBO21 November 17th, 2011, 07:40 PM @Butembo, what was insulting about what I said, you are being unreasonable, How many insulting words has MBA Congo used and how many warning has he received. Indeed the is preferential treatment in this forum
@ MBA- Congo- So that is why you decided to open your big fat mouth
Thats is not tolerated.
And no, there is NO Preferential treatement of anyone. Congolese Forumers are very mature and disciplined. only 2 forumers loose their cool very fast and i been watching them.
BUTEMBO21 November 17th, 2011, 07:54 PM Katanga has always had sane governers, really good governers that know at a heartbeat someone will be on their ass. Only difference between now and then is Mobuto.
Former governors, what did they built in Katanga other than houses GECAMINES built before 1997? everything else was left by Belgians.
Katumba Mwanke himself has said best governor the country ever seen is the one you resent. so has the country and Katanga itself.
From 97 till present Katanga had opened up and more resources are at our disposal.
No, from 97 to 2004, was GECAMINES' lowest production (below 100,000 Tones/year.)
Karavia November 17th, 2011, 08:15 PM This is a post about Kananga/Mbuji-Mayi!
MBA-Congo November 17th, 2011, 10:03 PM Former governors, what did they built in Katanga other than houses GECAMINES built before 1997? everything else was left by Belgians.
Katumba Mwanke himself has said best governor the country ever seen is the one you resent. so has the country and Katanga itself.
No, from 97 to 2004, was GECAMINES' lowest production (below 100,000 Tones/year.)
Gecamine and 1997 you answered your own question on that. So if eveything else was left by Beligian how did the transformation from 97-2011 take hold, all this homes and business dropped from the blue sky and landed miracleously. Gecamines isn't what defines Katanga it only describes relationship Katanga has to the Country you completely cut off Gecamine today and Katanga keeps marching. It ain't the sole employer in the province and hasn't been since LDK stepped in.
Katumba Mwanke himself has said best governor the country ever seen is the one you resent. so has the country and Katanga itself. So has the Pope about his bishops molesting kids.
Karavia April 3rd, 2012, 09:40 PM Mbuji Mayi en image
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beta-omegakin April 5th, 2012, 02:54 PM Mbuji Mayi en image
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Karavia February 25th, 2013, 11:41 PM Images de Mbuji Mayi & Makasa
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Karavia June 9th, 2013, 03:42 PM La clarté de l'eau de cette rivière à Tshitenge (Mbuji Mayi) est magnifique
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