Exciting future seen for foreshore
The City of Perth wants to hear the public’s views on exciting plans to improve the Swan River foreshore between the Narrows Bridge and Barrack Square.

The City wants to seize the opportunity created by construction of the new South West Metropolitan Railway to improve access and views and make better use of land which is dominated by Riverside Drive and approach roads to the Freeway.

The Council appointed Cox Architects to prepare a design development study for the area. The plan is now available for public viewing.

Lord Mayor Dr Peter Nattrass said there was magnificent potential to transform the foreshore area into a vibrant and attractive place that would be more accessible to the public.

"One of the great challenges facing the City is to better connect the CBD with the river in a way that draws people to the foreshore," Dr Nattrass said.

"There is also great scope to link the new Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre into the surrounding area by removing outdated freeway infrastructure."

The main features of the Foreshore Design Development Study include:

-Removing the William Street freeway access ramp and bridge over Riverside Drive and replacing them with an at-grade intersection.

-Straightening Riverside Drive and repositioning it and freeway ramps farther north.

-Locating the proposed Esplanade railway station closer to the Busport to allow for better passenger integration.

-Improved pedestrian links throughout the area.

Dr Nattrass said that by making these changes it would be possible to create an expanded foreshore recreation area and to improve the visual quality of the area.

He said the City was working closely with the State Government which was undertaking the South West Metropolitan Railway project. The railway will be constructed beneath the foreshore area east of the Narrows Bridge.

The public can view the Foreshore Design Development Study in the New MetroRail Information Centre at 124 William Street, Perth.

It can also be downloaded from the City of Perth’s website www.perth.wa.gov.au.

The public consultation period extends until Thursday, May 1

Foreshore vision to connect city and river
Perth city will be brought closer to the Swan River under a new proposal unveiled today by Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan.

Ms MacTiernan has invited public comment on a project that would see the William Street traffic bridge removed as part of the State Government's fast, direct Perth-Mandurah rail project.

Ms MacTiernan said the Foreshore Design Development Study had been jointly commissioned by the State Government and the Perth City Council and was undertaken by Cox Architects.

"The study presents an exciting vision that would free us from a visual and pedestrian barrier between the city and the Swan River," she said.

"This barrier is a legacy of the days when planning was dominated by traffic engineers and the car was king.

"Perth's river foreshore is one of the city's greatest assets and we need to encourage connection with it.

"The new station at the Esplanade will help do that, bringing 30,000 people through the area each day.

"Removal of the traffic bridge would take that access a step further and provide the opportunity for a better station design."

Ms MacTiernan said key points of the study were:

-replacement of the William Street traffic bridge with a road intersection;

-realignment of road links and bus lanes to create additional riverside area (about five hectares) with opportunities for some development close to the river;

-rationalisation of open space west of Barrack Square;

-improved pedestrian connections between the central business district, foreshore, Convention Centre and existing pedestrian bridges to the city;

-improved pedestrian access along the foreshore; and
relocation of Esplanade Station west of William Street, with potential for an open station box to utilise natural light.

"The foreshore stretch of the Perth to Mandurah railway would be brought closer to the Convention Centre with the proposed Esplanade Station moving west of William Street," Ms MacTiernan said.

"The William Street Bridge would be removed and roads and bus lanes realigned to help create additional riverside area and enhance pedestrian access."

The Minister said the concept included a new design for the proposed Esplanade Station, which would be more open and aesthetically pleasing and provide direct links to the busport, Convention Centre, city and foreshore.

"Implementing the plan could cost up to $4million extra - a cost that might be met by allowing development on part of the river land freed up by the road realignment," she said.

"The Government has budgeted about $200million for the city rail project as part of the total $1.4billion New MetroRail urban rail expansion project, that includes the Perth-to-Mandurah line."

Ms MacTiernan said the Government had not yet signed off on the study concept and funding mechanisms would need to be identified to ensure the project was cost neutral.

There would be a three-week public comment period until May 1.

Following the public comment period, the issue would be referred to the Central Perth Planning Committee for consideration, particularly in relation to the removal of the William Street bridge.

The study's visual concepts will be on display in the New MetroRail Information Centre at 124 William Street, Perth. People will be able to access public comment documents at the centre or at http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au
www.ministers.wa.gov.au

WOW just saw renderings of the concept plans on the news, it looks VERY impressive, like nothing Perth has ever seen. they compared it to darling harbour. i don't like the plan for an open station though like subiaco, i like the thought of it being fully underground, though the one on william street will be. lets hope these plans happen, it will be amazing for perth, and help 'put us on the map'. good to see the council and government working together and lets not hope things change after the council election, though i don't agree with natrass on everything, since he's been in power, not sure if its anything to do, but some possitive things have been happening in the city, i have to get my arse down to the centre on willam street and see the plans, they can expect my submition soon !!

Damn it, I missed the News:rant:
Lets all send postive feedback, they seem to listen to the positives even if there are negative responds from the public, if they really want it done.
Removing the William st ramp will make the river totally visible from the inner city which would be a huge bonus itself.

There's a great pic of it in The West today. I reacon its great, but I do agree with Chris, I'm not to keen on the Subiaco style open subway station. It should be fully closed, so the government can make full use to the land.

after seeing the renderings 4 times on 7, 9, 10 & ABC:) I now support the subiaco style station, though it will make it feel abit silly going into a tunnel then seeing light again then going back into a tunel, i think it will do wonders for the area, also there was a rendering for the PCEC office tower, does anyone know if thats the actually rendering or just there drawing ? it was significt size probably 7 levels. this is going to be great for perth, a project the city needs and deserves. im heading into the metrorail centre on william street today to cheak out the plans, and a report and submission form if they have them.

Plan rids city of bridge
AN AMBITIOUS proposal to demolish the William Street traffic bridge as part of the Perth to Mandurah rail project was unveiled yesterday.

The proposal, which would replace the bridge with a road intersection, is being pushed by the State Government and Perth City Council as a way of improving views and pedestrian access to the foreshore.

The plan is estimated to cost an extra $4 million and is also expected to mean more traffic jams, but is being lauded as a chance to get rid of a blight on the city's foreshore. Under previous plans, the bridge would have been brought down temporarily and re-erected.

Releasing the proposal for public comment, Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the concept would bring the city's design out of the 1960s.

"This barrier is a legacy of the days when planning was dominated by traffic engineers and the car was king," Ms MacTiernan said.

Removing the bridge would free 5ha of prime foreshore land, which Ms MacTiernan said could be developed to recoup the extra cost of the proposal.

The Government has promised the city rail project would not blow out beyond its $200 million budget, so Ms MacTiernan said money had to be found to meet the extra cost.

New developments would focus on entertainment and recreation, but were not envisaged to involve more high-rise hotel accommodation.

The proposal - which would realign Riverside Drive, Mounts Bay Road and William Street - would also allow for cost effective design improvements and relocation of the planned Esplanade rail station, which would be built closer to the Perth Convention Centre.

A Main Roads WA report delivered late last month found removing the William Street bridge would create traffic congestion.

The study found evening peak-hour traffic would have to drop 36 per cent to allow for acceptable congestion on William Street and Riverside Drive.

But Ms MacTiernan said the report also found the traffic flow would remain manageable with the new road intersection.

She said the Perth to Mandurah rail line was expected to reduce traffic and there were other routes in and out of the city.

Perth Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass said the proposal would allow the city's foreshore to be used to its full potential.

The Government is yet to approve the concept, which will be referred to the Central Perth Planning Committee after the public comment period closes on May 1.
www.thewest.com.au

i went to the metrorail centre today, they had nice big renderings of the proposed foreshore upgrade, and it looked nothing short of FUCKEN SPECTACULAR im in 100% full support of this, and I will go out of my way to make sure the government knows that. I urge you all to get down the centre and get a submission form and support this amazing project or email the centre with your feedback on the adress below

www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au
info@newmetrorail.wa.gov.au
Metro Rail Centre 124 William Street, Perth CBD open mon,tues,thurs&fri 10am-5pm

I might go in tomorrow afternoon...I missed it on tv>(...I'm going to buy the paper now..better than nothing.
By the way chris, one thing missing from your last reply......:banana:
:)

Some Of The Renderings You Will see at the metrorail centre
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid59/pfc1ac8fc93a86ec6c882e280f0ff2c17/fc5ccb9d.jpg
convention centre office tower [E&Y to sign at major tenant]
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Convention Centre and bridge to foreshore
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for those who don't know this is the general area of these places
yellow is new station, green is the convention and exhabition centre, purple is the busport and the redish colour is the area of the works
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid59/pa87f54aa43871239a7240a12e4beb4e6/fc5cbfff.jpg.orig.jpg

I just downlodged the Foreshore Design Brochure. Renders look great, But in the first picture of perth, you really get an idea of how big that area that the Mounts Bay Plaza would have been. That area looks so bare. A real pitty it didn't go ahead.

westpoint have purchased the site and are planning a development

those renderings look totally awesome! god i hope its approved! talk about classy! its great! :D

mike

its all going to be realatively cheap to, and if the bridge is removed, the government will sell land to fund the project and that could mean waterfront cafes, restaurants, bars and shops, bringing life to the foreshore !!! if the government gets enough possitive feedback, then i think this will definetely go ahead, so make sure you give some feedback

perth's foreshore is finally seeing some action with all these projects UC or planed to start in the next few years and a couple longer term. not to mention the 30 year foreshore plan what will add alot of other projects

- point frasier redevelopment - UC
- ozone reserve irrigaton lakes - UC
- barracks square hotel - APPROVED
- perth convention and exhabition centre - UC
- convention centre office tower - approved
- medina grand perth convention centre hotel - UC
- esplanade railway station - approved
- concert hall carpark performing arts precint - in planning
- esplanade performance stage - approved
- esplanade irrigation lakes - proposed

I can't see ya pics man.
AND I WANNA SEE THEM:rant:

you will just have to come back to perth for a holiday:D

if you e-mail the metrorail centre, and say your interested they might airmail you some infopacks on the project

this is the bridge what will be demolished
so long farewell i won't miss it at all !!
http://www.perth.wa.gov.au/images/foreshore_before2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid59/pcb5d5279dc2c1b8893814f55f9f363eb/fc592ae9.jpg.orig.jpg

Ozone Reserve Irrigation Lakes, Under Construction
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Aren't irrigation lakes also meant to be built on the Esplanade}see pic from the old roof model design of the PCEC) ??

I still haven't had a chance to go down to the metrorail centre>(
http://home.iprimus.com.au/roc1/convention centre.jpg

theres plans for irrigation lakes on the esplanade to, what will be built in the years to come

RAC tips city traffic snarl
SECRET City of Perth plans to transform the river foreshore into a tourist attraction are certain to face opposition.

The designs, from no development to building a swimming inlet or waterfront hotel, were unveiled for councillors at a committee meeting in October.

The concepts rely on the William Street bridge being replaced with a street-level intersection.

The council refused to release the drawings to The West Australian but copies were obtained through a Freedom of Information request to Main Roads for a report titled the Perth foreshore traffic study and interchange concepts.

In a submission released yesterday, the Royal Automobile Club of WA challenged the idea.

It says demolishing the William Street bridge as part of the Perth to Mandurah rail project would create an unacceptable bottleneck and jeopardise safety.

It claims the council's proposal to the State Government to remove the bridge was being rushed without prudent research.

It fears motorists will face long delays with traffic jams into St Georges Terrace and the Causeway unless traffic is diverted to alternative routes.

Plans to replace the bridge with an intersection and traffic lights were released for comment last month and attracted 35 submissions.

The bridge separates heavy traffic from the city and Riverside Drive and gives direct access from William Street and Mounts Bay Road to Kwinana Freeway and Stirling Highway.

Those in favour say the plan would improve views and pedestrian access to the foreshore.

A Main Roads report in December said there would need to be 1580 fewer cars using the intersection for acceptable traffic flow at the afternoon peak hour without the bridge.

But it said traffic in the area was the lowest in decades and could be managed.

New MetroRail city project director Richard Mann said an analysis of submissions would start today. There would also be another Main Roads report of traffic modelling and a formal safety audit.

The $4 million plan to remove the bridge would free up 5ha of foreshore.

But the council's in-house designs have not been put to public comment or a vote.

They show the foreshore in front of the convention centre could be rejuvenated to include a family beach and a shore facing north and protected against winds and boat moorings.

They could include buildings no taller than three storeys, a pedestrian bridge from the convention centre and a waterfront hotel.

Riverside Drive would be extended west of William Street to become a landscaped boulevard.

Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass could not be contacted yesterday but has said realigning the roads would open up pedestrian access.

But Cr Bert Tudori said yesterday sinking the railway in Northbridge should be a bigger priority.

"To me it looks as if we are doing Multiplex another favour, getting rid of an eyesore because it is stopping a view from the convention centre," he said.

Planning Minister Alannah MacTiernan was overseas and unavailable for comment but her spokesman said she did not have any strong commitments to the council's concepts.
www.thewest.com.au

Why don't they just build around the bridge,all of the plans and pics of the forshore without it look like an at grade intersection would take up just as much space as well as just becoming another set of traffic lights where an overpass would be more efficient.

Positive focus on foreshore
The City of Perth believes very positive outcomes will flow from the removal of the William Street overpass and that associated traffic issues can be managed satisfactorily.

Chief Executive Officer Frank Edwards said the City had been working closely with relevant State Government agencies on traffic issues related to foreshore redevelopment and would continue to do so.

He said that over the past five months, expert traffic engineers had provided the City with advice based on rigorous and extensive traffic modelling and projections well into the future.

The traffic modelling had indicated that the overpass could be replaced without creating undue traffic congestion.

There had been extensive discussions with Main Roads WA, the Department of Planning and Infrastructure, the New MetroRail office and other stakeholders.

"The Council is strongly committed to removing the overpass bridge at the foot of William Street, but obviously alternative arrangements for freeway traffic access will have to be made and these have been identified," Mr Edwards said.

"With the opening of the Graham Farmer Freeway tunnel, there has been a dramatic reduction in traffic on Riverside Drive.

"It should also be borne in mind that 30 per cent of traffic on the William Street overpass during the evening peak period is through traffic, travelling from Northbridge to the Kwinana Freeway. The intention is to get this traffic on to the freeway north of the city centre.

"More importantly, with construction of a $1.4 billion rail project it can be expected that rail will become the preferred commuting option for many people who currently use the car. With such a large investment of public money this should certainly be encouraged.

"There are magnificent possibilities for improving the foreshore between Barrack Square and the Narrows Bridge, but removing the ugly road barrier is the key to opening up that area.

"Last month the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure and the Lord Mayor released the Perth Foreshore Design Development Study which showed how the vista across the foreshore area could be transformed if the overpass was removed.

"The public has since had the opportunity to comment and the majority of submissions received have shown overwhelming support for the plan as well as constructive suggestions for further improvements.

"A year ago, the final report of the Minister’s Perth City Rail Advisory Committee recommended removal of the overpass. Suggestions in some quarters that undue haste is being shown are therefore wrong.

"Nor is there any secrecy about the Council’s vision for the foreshore area, with a concept plan going out to public consultation two years ago.

"However, before new plans can be finalised a decision on the overpass needs to be made. In that regard, normal planning processes are now being carried out with relevant authorities, who will give proper consideration to all aspects of the proposal and to public submissions.

"Any final plans for the foreshore redevelopment will also need to be approved by Council, which is the correct process."
www.perth.wa.gov.au

Bold new plan to bring people to riverfront
A BOLD new concept plan by the City of Perth would transform the banks of the Swan River at the city's edge into a vibrant leisure precinct.

The foreshore development committee's plan, which mimics Melbourne's Southbank, will be presented to the full council next week and, if accepted, be released for public comment.

The centrepiece will be a new harbour and a north-facing shore surrounded by low-rise, pavilion-style architecture with a hotel, pedestrian areas, short-stay accommodation, waterside tenancies and a link to the central city.

The area, between William Street and the Kwinana Freeway, will be linked to the Convention Centre by walkways. Other features are a footbridge over the harbour mouth and sheltered cove with casual boat moorings.

The plan has flowed from the State Government's southern railway and the decision to sink the line through that part of the city and remove the William Street overpass.

Chairman of the foreshore committee, Cr Rob Butler, said this gave the City of Perth the chance to re-route roads which would be cut off as the railway was built and to move them away from the river. This would create another 7.25ha of space.

The land between William Street and the freeway has been valued at more than $260 million for full commercial development. The value of the low-scaled waterfront project has been put at $40 million, including development costs.

Cr Butler said the State Government, the owner of the land, would recoup costs through leases, which could be a continuing source of income.

Part of that income could be directed to the Swan River Trust in its battle to address the health of the river.

There would be no loss of waterfront or river area not compensated for by new beaches and riverbank areas in the development.

Cr Butler was a councillor with Subiaco City Council during the development of SubiCentro and the sinking of the Subiaco railway station.

He said the plan would not cost ratepayers or taxpayers anything and Perth would have a vibrant and exciting foreshore.

It was also worth remembering the land in question was reclaimed and not a natural part of the river.

By reducing the grass area bordering the river, the plan would help limit nutrients getting into it from fertilisers. The Spring Street drain, the biggest city contributor to river pollution, also could be cleaned up.

City banks on bold blueprint: councillor
THE City of Perth's latest plan for the redevelopment of the city foreshore is the most ambitious yet, according to the chairman of the foreshore planning committee, Cr Rob Butler.

It comes in the wake of criticism of the city for its lack of foreshore facilities, and frequent comparisons with how other cities in the world have used their city waterways to create exciting and well-used places of entertainment and recreation.

Cr Butler said the council had produced other plans for the foreshore, the most recent in November 2000.

But that was before the State Government had made its decision on the southern railway, and the subsequent decision to sink it and remove the William Street overpass.

Public response to the last report showed that while a third of respondents supported it, another third thought it was not sufficiently bold.

The other respondents did not support the loss of parkland in the plan.

But, Cr Butler said, the new plan was at the expense of roads, not open space.

The plan would make the Convention Centre its hub and help maximise the State Government's decision to spend $400 million on the centre.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20030705/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto103961.html

I saw the renderings in The West on page 7 today. Very nice. Wish I had a scanner.

William Street traffic bridge to make way for foreshore vision
The William Street traffic bridge will be removed to open the city's foreshore to public access and new riverfront facilities.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the State Government had created the opportunity to achieve a decades long vision for Perth, with a decision to improve the alignment of its fast, direct Perth to Mandurah railway.

"Removal of the bridge will end a major physical and visual barrier between the city and the Swan River foreshore," Ms MacTiernan said.

"It will create magnificent river views south along William Street and from the Convention Centre.

"The Esplanade station will bring 10,000 people each day into its new location at the northern end of the existing traffic bridge, providing them access to the Busport, Convention Centre and city offices, as well as to the foreshore.

"The new station will provide superb public transport access to major riverfront events such as the Skyshow and Perth Festival entertainment.

"This decision will also allow roads west of William Street to be relocated further north, away from the river, freeing up more than five hectares of useable foreshore land."

Ms MacTiernan said when the bridge was demolished in the first half of next year, it would be replaced with a traffic light-controlled intersection at William Street and Riverside Drive.

Detailed traffic modelling and analysis of long-term traffic scenarios had found that an acceptable level of service could be achieved in peak periods.

The intersection's performance would be reviewed 12 months after the railway began operation in late 2006.

The Minister said the $1.3million cost of demolishing the bridge would be met by changes to the project including:

leaving uncovered a 135m section of the tunnel within the Freeway interchange, to allow natural ventilation;
a slight reduction in the length of the rail alignment; and
using natural light and ventilation in the relocated Esplanade Station.
She said the project was part of the Government's drive to provide an accessible, safe and efficient public transport system.

Great news, NOW OFFICAL!.....
......next, the sinking of the railway if u don't mind!!

I don't like how they are stinging off on the tunnel though to pay for it. did you see on the news that indigenous guy who came up to the minister in the press conference and went 'its my river its my river' etc... lol

All change at Esplanade: MacTiernan
THE William Street traffic bridge will go to make way for the Esplanade train station despite fears of more traffic crashes and congestion in the city.

Two Perth City Council committees also are worried that safety will be jeopardised and an eyesore created when part of the Perth to Mandurah rail line is left uncovered to help meet the $1.3 million cost of removing the overpass.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said a blight on the riverfront would go, opening it to the public and new development.

"No longer is the car the king of the city, this city is being designed for people," she said.

The project would realign Riverside Drive, Mounts Bay Road and William Street to bring the Esplanade station nearer the convention centre and free 5ha of foreshore. It would not add to the cost, through savings from a shorter rail line and 135m of track left uncovered for natural lighting and ventilation at the station.

Ms MacTiernan said traffic jams would be worse but the flow would be manageable. Drivers would be encouraged to use other routes and more commuters would use trains when the line opened.

Perth Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass commended the decision to remove the overpass, which is crucial to bold council plans to redevelop the foreshore.

"This is the catalyst to a lot of worthwhile benefits to the city," he said.

City Vision spokesman Ken Adam said it also approved but had concerns about leaving a section of rail line uncovered and wanted an assurance that it could be covered in the future.

Council railway committee chairman Deputy Lord Mayor Bert Tudori said the open section of line would have to be fenced, raising safety concerns and leaving another ugly, visual scar on the foreshore.

RAC general manager David Moir said a study had predicted that crashes at the new intersection would double and be worse. The Government should have shown how it would divert traffic before deciding to remove the bridge.

The bridge will go in the first half of next year. The replacement intersection will be reviewed a year after the railway starts in 2006
http://www.thewest.com.au/20030717/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto105358.html

Hmm, I dont agree with it. I dont see the overpass as too big a blight. They should had kept the rail underground as it was. It's a compromise in my opinion.

Originally posted by Homeroids

Hmm, I dont agree with it. I dont see the overpass as too big a blight. They should had kept the rail underground as it was. It's a compromise in my opinion.

NO NO NO the bridge going is massive massive news, its like the rail between northbridge and the city for the foreshore, I cant wait to see it gone, a very very good decision in my opinion

In my opinion it's kinda sad to be losing a big piece of infrastructure but in doing so we are at a gain rather than a lose. Not only will it create public open space and remove a barrier, it will make the river much more visible from within the CBD and in my opinion thats the best thing!. At the moment, you wouldn't hardly know there's a river there!.
http://www.perthwa.com.au/perth/citywest/stgeorges/graphics/williamst-1.jpg

PCC should look at (dare I say it..Removing..ok Relocating:) even trees which get in the way.
http://www.perthwa.com.au/perth/citywest/stgeorges/graphics/cnr-s-sgt-hd-2.jpg

There would be a great view of South Perth in that first shot of Rocstars if the bridge was gone:cool:

At first I thought it should stay,but I was wrong.
The bridge has really overstayed its welcome,I like freeways but they should only be this visible in the outer suburbs and in industrial areas.I hope those who had it put there in the first place feel like dicks right now:bash:

Hmmm yeah maybe but if the traffic snarl becomes so bad they're only going to have to do something about rebuilding it again. I think in one of those articles they mentioned it would be reviewed in a few years which kind of suggests they aint too sure what impact it is going to have. Hey, maybe it might be the thing that makes the whole of Riverside Drv get sunk like they proposed years ago. Now that would be awesome.

no offence to southern suburbs people who drive to the city in peak times, but fuck the southern suburbians who drive home, catch PT, I don't care if they get stuck in and extra 10 mins traffic if it improves the city:D

That ramp feeds to the Mitchell too but admittently not as much as it does to the Kwinana.

I went to Innaloo cinema's tonite and man was the Fwy packed over the Narrows onwards. Should had seen the traffic heading South and North. I don't know what was causing it. I had to get over 4 lanes bound north and some asshole nearly cut me off. Wanker! I made it in one piece.

the bridge only goes to stirling hwy [via mbr] and the kwinnana, but there are other entries to these roads and the bridge is just going to be replace with a road, take off the cars that will use the rail it should be okay

Nah - that bridge allows you to go left to Stirling (if you want to avoid the Fwy), left to Kwinana and over the Narrows, and Right under the main exchange and onto Mitchell. It forks. Maybe we are getting our roads crossed :). Whopps I meant our wires... nah our roads, nah, you know what I mean ;)

Originally posted by chrisaus

I don't like how they are stinging off on the tunnel though to pay for it. did you see on the news that indigenous guy who came up to the minister in the press conference and went 'its my river its my river' etc... lol
iv seen that guy b4. last yea i was in perth an he was pretending to have a car in the plaza arcade it was hell funny

the perth city council are going to build a performance 'shell' on the esplandade to hosts concerts etc.. should be great and bring some people to the foreshore esp. with all this new development

There was an article in the West recently about an idea to build a road tunnel under the area directly in front of the Conv Centr. from near Mill St accross to join William St in a huge roundabout where the William St bridge starts at the moment.The Freeway entries/exits to the Kwinana Fwy from MB road at Pt Lewis Roundabout are modified to come on and off a lot closer to Narrows Br and the Mitchell Fwy entries/exits to MB road and Riveside Dr are further North and less spread out.The idea is to open up the exess land in front of the Convention Centre which is being used for the Narrows Interchange,there was a map in the article not sure what day it was from.The guy who's idea it was is a former planner from WA,It sounds like he is opposed to the rail entering Perth from the foreshore I don't think the idea has been given much notice.

Has anyone else seen this in the paper?

any one watching the 10 news just then? they had concept renderings of what the foreshore could look like when developed. looks like something is finally going to happen down there. I think they said they are going to call tenders soon! watch 7 & 9 news @ 6 to see details. if only the state government would know get on board with the rail sinking project perth would then be linked to the river and the northern burbs, and the CBD will be less 'isolated'

Yeah I saw that. It should pass. The renderings looked really good.

City and river to be linked
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PERTH'S face will undergo a dramatic makeover under a State Government plan to link the city centre to the Swan River.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan yesterday unveiled a western foreshore development plan she says will make better use of one of Perth's greatest natural assets, the river.

In a move to coincide with the development of the controversial southern rail project, the Government will realign roads back from the western foreshore of the river and replace them with more people-friendly amenities on a 5ha site.

The plan would include the removal of the William Street freeway on-ramp allowing the development of an overpass and steps linking the heart of the city with the waterfront and a boulevard edged with cafes, restaurants, nightclubs, a boutique hotel and a civic cultural building.

Ms MacTiernan said a medium density housing component was also likely in the "once-in-a-century" opportunity. It would guarantee a base load of people in the area along with a new train station at the Esplanade, which would bring 10,000 people.

Culture and the Arts Minister Sheila McHale also said a new performing arts centre would be part of the package.

The Cox Group director Murray Etherington, who produced the concept designs, said the plan would maintain transport links while giving Perth a Darling Harbour-style development, albeit on a smaller scale.

Mr Etherington, whose company also masterplanned Sydney's Darling Harbour and the Perth Convention Centre, said other big Australian cities had already developed public waterside playgrounds.

Ms MacTiernan said it was WA's greatest travesty that the section of the Swan River had not been used to better effect.

A town planning scheme amendment program would begin next year.

She hoped the makeover would be complete in 2006. The plan will be put out for tender next year.

"We've now got a real opportunity to reinvent Perth and liberate the whole western foreshore from cars and turn it into a water playground for the people," Ms MacTiernan said. "If you can do it in Melbourne and Adelaide where their rivers compared to ours are very modest - we've got this magnificent waterway and we should be orienting our city towards it."

Shadow transport minister Katie Hodson-Thomas said the Liberal Party would support development of the western foreshore, but was concerned the Government's inability to work within its $1.4 billion budget for the railway would cause big problems.

She said work on the southern rail line would leave an ugly trench from the Narrows Bridge to the Perth Convention Centre and construction on the foreshore development could spark serious traffic management problems in the city centre.

Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass said the City of Perth supported the concept, which had been discussed for decades.

"It's time to put down the drawing board and pick up the picks and shovels and make it happen," Dr Nattrass said. "This and the sinking of railway is going to be a great opportunity for Perth. If we've got a council committed to it and a minister committed to it, I don't see anything stopping it."
http://www.thewest.com.au/20031208/news/general/tw-news-general-home-sto116781-pic22312.html
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Saw a news story on ABC news about redevelopment of the foreshore in front of the convention centre. Could some of you please look around for plans and artists impressions. It said something about residential development as well.

Cant wait to see plans for this.

yeah I started a thread prob 6 months ago on this...>>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?threadid=34303&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

ill get cull to merge the threads. it shouldn't have never been moved in the first place.

Perth plans riverfront redevelopment
The West Australian government has unveiled plans for a Darling Harbour-style redevelopment of the Swan River foreshore in central Perth, including a waterfront boulevard lined with shops and restaurants.

The plans, still in the conceptual phase, hinge on the diversion of a spaghetti junction of roads at the western end of the foreshore, which will be removed as part of the southern suburbs rail project.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah McTiernan said the removal of the roads would open up a 3hectare site, allowing the river to be linked to the city as a "waterfront playground for the community".

"This liberates that western foreshore from the motor vehicle and opens it up for the people of Western Australia," Ms McTiernan said.

It is hoped construction will begin in 2005.
http://afr.com/articles/2003/12/07/1070732073072.html

State Government unveils plans to liberate Perth western foreshore
The State Government has unveiled today concept designs for the Perth western foreshore made possible by the visionary southern suburbs railway project.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the rail project had created a unique and exciting opportunity to finally liberate the Perth foreshore and replace cars with people.

"The removal of the William Street traffic bridge and the re-alignment of the spaghetti of roads away from the river will mean the opening up of a three hectare site for the whole community to enjoy," the Minister said.

"These concept designs provide ideas to re-invent Perth with a waterfront development of the standard enjoyed in Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne or London."

The designs, by leading firm Cox Architects, involve an overpass and grand steps linking the heart of the city with the waterfront and a boulevard edged with cafes, restaurants, nightclubs, a boutique hotel and a civic cultural building.

Ms MacTiernan said the medium density housing component of the designs was very important to the overall project.

"People residing in the area provide a constant base load supply for the restaurants and businesses that set up shop there. The ongoing movement of people will also add to the safety and amenity of the area," she said.

"This proposal, or another version of it, can only happen because of the State Government's rail project.

"Firstly, a station will be built at the Esplanade, bringing 10,000 people each day into the location.

"The removal of the William Street traffic bridge will end a major physical and visual barrier between the city and the Swan River foreshore. It will create magnificent river views south along William Street and from the Convention Centre.

"Perth's river foreshore is one of the city's greatest assets and we need to encourage connection with it."

The concept designs have the support of the City of Perth. The council and State Government worked together to provide for the removal of the William Street traffic bridge.

"This presentation today is just one architect's idea of how this area could look," Ms MacTiernan said.

The Town Planning Scheme amendment process would begin next year, giving the public an opportunity to have input.

Culture and the Arts Minister Sheila McHale welcomed the foreshore development, along with the possibilities it presented for the future inclusion of arts and cultural facilities.

"Our Government recognises that attractive and vibrant cultural and arts venues also have a dual role as important tourist destinations," Ms McHale said.

"The foreshore development opens up a host of possibilities for the future inclusion of major and varied facilities - attractive and accessible to the whole community."

The William Street bridge would be demolished in the first half of next year and would be replaced with a traffic light-controlled intersection at William Street and Riverside Drive.

Detailed traffic modelling and analysis of long-term traffic scenarios has found that an acceptable level of service could be achieved in peak periods.

The construction of the rail through the heart of the city creates unprecedented opportunities to make Perth a more alive city - a city that can provide exciting opportunities for Western Australia.

$30m tag on river link land
THE State Government will put at least a $30 million price tag on Perth's most-prized piece of real estate on the city's western foreshore.

The sale of the 3ha, which is planned to link the city centre to the Swan River, will pave the way for more than $1 billion worth of privately funded developments, according to a Perth planner who helped shape Sydney's Darling Harbour.

The Cox Group director Murray Etherington told The West Australian the western foreshore development, revealed on Sunday by the State Government, was likely to provide the city's only direct link to the river in the foreseeable future.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the development offered a major financial boost to the State while reinventing the city's face and taking it back to its historical destiny, the Swan River.

Ms MacTiernan said a conservative estimate of $10 million a hectare had been placed on the value of the land - $2.7 million a hectare cheaper than the Emu Brewery site, which featured a higher density and scale of development.

It would cost $3 million to scrap the William Street freeway on-ramp and other road realignments to accommodate the plan. Of that, $2 million would be included in the $1.4 billion southern rail project budget, while the rest would be covered by land sales.

Ms MacTiernan said the Government's preference would be to sell the entire land package to one developer.

Colliers International research manager David Cresp estimated the residential part of the package would be worth well in excess of $1000 a square metre, a price which had been a recent inner-city guide at less lucrative locations.

Mr Cresp said the final value would be determined by the development allowed on the land.

Mr Etherington said the development would mirror, on a smaller scale, the Darling Harbour project which had transformed Sydney's city centre.

He said it was likely to include a major dredging of the river to encourage more boating activity as part of an eclectic mix of attractions at the prime site which would also include, public buildings, restaurants, cafes, retail trading, leisure space and residential areas.

It would also negate the recent trend where suburban shopping centres had taken people out of the city.

Inner City Property Group executive director James Limnios said the project would give Perth a national and international focus and create a more lively city nightlife. The development would make the foreshore a desirable residential location. It would encourage urban renewal, as Darling Harbour and Melbourne's South Bank did.

Ms MacTiernan said a clear agreement on development guidelines would be drawn with the City of Perth in the next six months.

Tender documents would be out by the end of next year, with the project expected to be nearing completion in 2006.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20031209/news/general/tw-news-general-home-sto116820.html

Visit the following page and scroll down to the Foreshore bit for artists impressions and overhead map of the proposal.

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/html/m09s04_.php?type=Images

(Chris do you want to post them here?)

Personally I dont think that the foreshore shape is changed enough i will be altering the map and submitting it with the public comment period. I think they should aim for a more "harbour" shape and feel to the layout.

Get rid of the lakes to the left I say and build on it.

Also here is a copy of an email I got:

As requested through Richard Mann, the concept images for the foreshore vision can be found by clicking on the link below and scrolling down to the Perth Foreshore sketches.

The Town Planning Scheme amendment process will begin next year, giving the public an opportunity to have input into the foreshore vision. There are no details as yet as to how this process will be conducted. The best way to find out would be to stay posted to the New MetroRail website.

Regards

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/html/m09s04_.php?type=Images

Richard Barrett
Communications Officer, New MetroRail
Public Transport Authority
T (08) 9326 2739 F (08) 9326 2755
M 0409 085 040
Email: rbarrett@pta.wa.gov.au
Web: www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au

that pic is very old, the plan has changed a heap since that one ie. the william street bridge will go, the station will be next to the convention centre, all those road near the foreshore will be removed and developmed. that pic is years old.

Chris, keep scrolling down on that page its a new item 12th on the list called "Perth Foreshore Sketch" these are all new and are what was released to the public last Sunday.

Have a look you'll see. Post them here if you can.

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I think it looks fantastic,even if the end result differs from those impressions,Perth is starting to develop areas that have been gaping spaces with massive potetial for decades upon decades,the riverfront being a perfect example:)

It looks like there could be extensions to the ferry terminal as well as new retail and cafes.

Exciting times in Perth.

all they are, are concept renderings. just ideas of how it could look.

yeah well fucking get a move on.. they have been talking about this for at least 10 years........
and why did the state govt can the 2nd stage of barrack square and then do this.. anywyas its much better... but like everything in australia it may just turn out to be talk.... and no action..

has there been any negative press about it?? normally whenever they want to do anything with the river all these stupid ****s come out of the woodwork and complain...

what is happening with the barrack sq hotel btw??

CHEERS
:cheers

id prefer they take another 5 years than fuck it up.
they canned barrack square stage 2 because they would have had to fund the work, this development will be done privatly with no money from the state coffers injected into the area other than the rail and road infrastructure. no bad press yet, they can't complain because it is not state money, and this will happen because it will be a private thing and it won't get skrewd over by government hopefully. www.ph3.com.au says the hotel is coming soon.

Originally posted by NZer

It looks like there could be extensions to the ferry terminal as

barrack square just got a major upgrade and they are pleanty of jetties now, about 6 or so.

Foreshore plan attack
THE State Government is at risk of "going off half-cocked" on the development of the Swan River foreshore, the head of an urban lobby group says.

Ken Adam, chairman of City Vision, said foreshore plans unveiled last week were too conceptual and gave members of the public little idea about what was proposed.

He claimed the State Government and the City of Perth council were not collaborating and seemed to be at odds on some fronts.

He said the council had already adopted a separate in-principle plan for the west side of the foreshore.

"No one is against a development to bring the city and the river together," Mr Adam said.

"But there has got to be a detailed proposal that is open for public comment."

Development aims to revitalise the city's greatest asset – the swathe of foreshore from the Causeway to the Narrows Bridge. But interest groups are at odds over details of the western end of the plan.

As the Perth Convention Centre takes shape, adjacent land has been earmarked for a spectacular makeover in the vein of Sydney's Darling Harbour and Melbourne's and Brisbane's South Bank precincts.

About 3ha of the western foreshore between the Narrows Bridge and Barrack St is to feature a boulevard flanked by restaurants, bars, cafes, a boutique hotel and performing arts centre. Medium-density housing is also likely.

Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass said the development would be low-scale and "more people oriented" than Darling Harbour.

"I don't see it as another Darling Harbour at all," he told The Sunday Times.

"This will be more sensitive to people and less buildings-oriented."

Interest groups say the location of a performing arts centre at the water's edge won't work and high-density housing doesn't mix well with bars and nightclubs.

The City of Perth has recommended only short-term residential development for the plan, which was unveiled by Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan this week.

It is understood that opposition to medium-density housing was based on ongoing complaints to the council from Northbridge residents about nightclub noise.

But Ms MacTiernan believes that residents will provide a constant base-load supply for restaurants and businesses that set up shop on the foreshore and that the presence of people will add to the safety and amenity of the area.

The proposed site of the performing arts centre on the river also has been criticised.

Town planner Ralph Stanton said a performing arts centre needed more space than would be available at the water's edge.

"In principle, the idea of a performing arts centre on the water like Sydney's Opera House sounds good until you get to the logistics," he said.

"It would be too difficult for operations to get in and out of and too difficult for visitors too."

At a City Vision seminar in Perth last year members of the performing arts community concluded that a centre should be located near the CBD.

"By the end of the seminar we really saw that a performing arts centre should be city focused," Mr Stanton said.

"The foreshore is too windy and there is not enough space for moving operations and people."

The land itself will be worth more than $30 million, paving the way for more than $1 billion worth of privately funded development. Ms MacTiernan said the blue-chip real estate would be worth an estimated $10 million a hectare – more than the Swan Brewery site.

During the first half of next year, an ongoing blight on the foreshore landscape – the William St freeway on-ramp – will be removed at a cost of about $3 million.

Another aspect of the masterplan for the area is the construction of three man-made lakes on the Esplanade Reserve between William and Barrack streets.

The reserve will also house a performing arts facility, cafe and boardwalk. This project, approved in October, will be finished by the middle of next year.
http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,8153599%255E2761,00.html

not long till the bitch get knocked down :drunk:

..

who are these 'City Vision people (besides us of course:) and what role do they play ?

role = bitching :)
im good at that

not long till the bitch get knocked down :drunk:
what bitch?

The William Street Bridge!

the early stages of demolishing the bridge is underway with it being closed to traffic

Restaurants, bars take centre stage in new foreshore plan
Up to 300 hotel rooms, 440 short-stay apartments, museums, galleries, restaurants, cafes and bars could be created on the Perth foreshore under revised plans being considered by the Perth City Council.

Perth Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass said two alternative development scenarios were likely to be significantly modified before a preferred option was endorsed by the council, but it was time to get on with developing the foreshore after years of planning and debate.

Dr Nattrass said the State Government, which unveiled its foreshore plan in December, had shown a renewed interest because of the Perth to Mandurah railway.

But he said the Government had to determine its level of funding, which would affect the intensity of private development allowed in the prime riverfront area.

"I'd like to see it get under way as soon as public consultation is finished, that is within six months. It is high time we bit the bullet and did something," Dr Nattrass said.

Plans for the foreshore land were reviewed by council staff after an environmental study.

The study says creating enclosed bays should not be included but the development could be built on piles extending into the water that would allow the creation of a north-facing shore and new harbour. The two alternative plans, considered in a report by council planning director Max Hipkins, depend on road layout after the railway is built.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan said the Government's concept was being refined and traffic modelling would determine the position of the roads.
http://www.thewest.com.au/20040603/news/general/tw-news-general-home-sto126005.html

quote;It is high time we bit the bullet and did something," Dr Nattrass said.

I take back all the shit I said about this guy:D

William Street Bridge Coming Down
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When does the Medina Grand Open Chris? It is supposed to be about now.

months time i think

looks almost done, it has some feature lighting on it at night. me thinks it would be pretty loud with the busport right next door,

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Let's hope Garuda doesn't think it's another runway to get mixed up with :)

Sounds like you have a story Homer

Yeah, there was a supposed report that a Garuda flight was going to land on the Tonkin Hwy because the pilot thought it was another runway to the main airport. I've heard it mentioned in many circles and it nearly happened many years ago.

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The convention centre looks really cool from there. C for Convention.

i think it was Horrie Miller Drive..... It did happen.. he had lined up and then saw the lights of cars and pulled up in time :D

I think I've seen these pics before...in several other threads....never mind, great shots Chris!

Goodbye Bridge
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Perth council develops own foreshore plans
The Perth City Council is planning a multi-million dollar development of the Swan River Foreshore between William Street and the Narrows Bridge.

Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass says the plan will include a hotel, boardwalk, cafes and a marina, aimed at encouraging more people to visit the area.

Reports suggest the development will cost $200 million but Dr Nattrass is refusing to speculate about that.

He says the council wants to work closely with the State Government to develop the foreshore area.

"Unfortunately we don't make enough use of our foreshore and this is aimed at attracting people down from the city onto the foreshore so that they can make better use of it," he said.

The plan is due to go before the Perth City Council this month.

Meanwhile, the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure, Alannah MacTiernan, says the council is well aware that the Government has already announced plans for the foreshore area.

The concept designs, unveiled in December, feature an overpass and steps linking the CBD to the waterfront.

Ms MacTiernan says the Government will work in partnership with the City of Perth.

"I'm not quite sure how they've got to this point where they've been developing plans independently but notwithstanding that, we're always happy to look at anything they put forward," she said.
http://www.abc.net.au/wa/news/200408/s1176797.htm

so who do they expect to pay for this? PCC has no money for it.........

i thought the PCEC included a bridge to the river? will this be built now or later once the rail works are done?
I think they should sink riverside drive.. not for a long way and not a tunnel...... just sink it for a hundred meters or so..... similar to having a bridge over the road and have a small plaza on top...... this wont cost that much to do and will open up the river area.

it will be funded by land sales to private developers that will include apartments to get a population down there to support the businesses and pay for capital works

i meant the council proposal.. they dont own the land down there..... i think both the PCC and the Govt should work together........ the govt has a plan already. the council is wasting their moiney developing another plan.........

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this should surely attract suburbanites back into the cbd! best idea pcc has had yet!

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This latest proposal to have a riverbank development is the catylist needed to propel Perth to being a destination that competes with the best from the east. Call it MOUNT BAY GARDENS, and create a feast of attractions like SouthBank, Cockle Bay and SouthGate, between the Convention Centre and Swan and it will help to improve the whole area. With Esplanade Station as an entrance, it will be the panacea of the city.

It looks like a good idead to me.

Lets hope something actually happens.

I hope this becomes reality. It would really open up that waterfront areas, bringing in more people, more activities.
But as Perthguy pointed out there needs to be more joint cooperation between PCC and the State govt on an important project like this.

The architecture and layout needs to be truly distinctive as well.
It's no good having some new buildings which although are boring and unisnspired,look impressive for five years,and then turn into something everyone just wants to get rid of like the entertainment centre.

The foreshore development needs to be like the Belltower which is unique,so even if half of the population don't like it at first,it will never become just an outdated eyesore.

lets hope they don't copy darling harbour rather get some inspiration from southbank melbourne....

I'd have to agree with you on that one.

the hotel planned for next to barrack sq looks AWESOME... when will it begin construction......

we really need a focal point down there....... what i dont understand is that the state govt cancelled the 2nd stage of the barrack sq project which would have dont a similar thing..........
this has been on the cards for the past 20 years........... lets get it built BUT dont distract from sinking the rail aswelll that is just as important

Having a rethink, maybe it is best to just call the project MOUNT BAY. Of course the waterline has moved from where it once was with Mount Bay Road, (beneath Mt Eliza) but it is still geographically correct.

stage 2 of barrack square wouldn't have developed any of the land that has been opened up from the william street bridge going though, also have alot in the PCEC liftout in todays west, there is an ad for PH3/riverside pier hotel, most have sold too, can't wait, its going to have ground floor cafes/bars/retail

yeah that hotel is gonna be the best design on the river i have ever seen...... will be a good change from the crap weve been getting lately... it will set the standard. modern yet blends in well :D

Do you have rendering of this hotel project? sounds interesting.

Thank god this bitch lives bush, I Can't beleive there are still people this bloody stupid out there, bloody hell reality check.....
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Thank god this bitch lives bush, I Can't beleive there are still people this bloody stupid out there, bloody hell reality check.....
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Augusta - Where the frak is that?

Can't understand why she's worried about since she lives frikken 100's of clicks away from the Swan River foreshore. Next decade, when she visits Perth she's still wants to have her idea of a perfect foreshore where you have to cross 6 lanes of traffic to enjoy about 20m's of grassed foreshore.

exactly I don't want all of perth's foreshore developed but the CBD, you would be bloody mad not to

Do you think it is likely that the foreshore would get developed further East like the Langley Park bit?

Nah, I think Langley Park will remained untouched. They may eventually sink Riverside Drv so there is direct access to the foreshore. That has been touted for a number of years now. Would be awesome I reckon.

It sounds good,but it sounds costly too.......imagine all the bitching there would be about the money spent on something like that.

Point Frasier already is being upgraded (state one finished) next to causeway and eastern gateway will develop eastern foreshore

There is also talk about bringing the Concert Hall up to the river????

William St Bridge demolition provides new opportunities for foreshore roads
Demolition of the landmark William Street Bridge provides an opportunity to radically rethink the Perth foreshore's road network, according to Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan.

As the bridge's final pylons come down, Ms MacTiernan announced a study aimed at making the foreshore more accessible to the community by restructuring the road network between the Esplanade/Mounts Bay Road and the Narrows Interchange.

The Minister said until now the bridge, built in the late 1960s, had been a visual and physical barrier between the city and the foreshore.

"We have a great opportunity to radically rethink the foreshore road network and restore William Street to a pedestrian-friendly city boulevard," she said.

"The current road system is the result of the partial implementation of an extraordinary scheme (in the 1963 MRS plan) to ring the Perth CBD with freeways - these were the days when traffic engineers were king and planning focussed on cars rather than people.

"After the first component of the city freeway - the Narrows Interchange and its link and the William Street Bridge, the remainder of the project - the proposed Foreshore Freeway - was mercifully abandoned.

"The new Metrorail project and bridge demolition means we can unpick the last of the ravages of that failed attempt to collar the city with freeways.

"The creation of a waterfront village from the foot of William Street, west to the freeway, provides an unprecedented opportunity to re-establish the historical connection between the city and the foreshore."

Interim traffic modelling undertaken by the Department for Planning and Infrastructure has identified opportunities to redesign the existing road network so that roads can be realigned away from the foreshore.

"At the very least, we will be able to realign the roads, pushing them back from the foreshore to allow better public access to this precious land and enable the creation of a western foreshore precinct on the river, where previously there were only roads," Ms MacTiernan said.

The department will now carry out design workshops and further modelling and testing with Main Roads WA and other stakeholders.

Minister's office: 9213 6400

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BARRCKS SQUARE, PERTH CBD
CONSTRUCTION STARTS OCTOBER

>>>>www.riversidepier.com.au

Riverside Pier is located on the Swan River at Barrack Square, a short stroll from St. George's Terrace, the Hay Street shopping precinct and the Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre. You'll find plenty of style and excitement at the cafes, bars and restaurants and one of Australia's most elegant hotels, the Élan Perth. The only place to relax on the Swan River - in the heart of the city.

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good design! its what perth needs right now.

Perth's western foreshore is being transformed already with alot of new projects conecting the CBD to the Swan and creating many new areas to explore and new attractions, all these projects are currently under constrction, completed or starting construction soon, not to mention the foreshore development, and now highly possible new foreshore performing arts centre
-esplanade performance stage/shell UC
-grand palace restaurant esplande UC
-perth convention exhibtion centre COMPLETED
-medina grand convention centre COMPLETED
-earnst and young office building UC
-elan riverside pier CONSTRUCTION OCTOBER
-esplanade lakes CONSTRUCTION SOON
-esplanade transit station UC

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Esplanade Performance Stage - pic from dilaz
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oi do u know what the 'v' is?

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oi do u know what the 'v' is?

I'll have a guess - they're probably laying cables from the stage-side speakers to a connection for a temporary sound desk out in the audience.

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Exciting future seen for foreshore
A plan to convert part of the city’s western river foreshore into a people-friendly civic showplace has been released by the City of Perth.

The Lord Mayor, Dr Peter Nattrass, said the Council wanted to make the space between Barrack Square and the Narrows Bridge more accessible to the public and to create facilities that would draw people to the area.

Some of the features being considered include a pedestrian promenade, a beach, sheltered cove with casual boat moorings and low-level buildings such as cafes and a hotel.

Dr Nattrass said the under-utilised area of the foreshore could become a vibrant but relaxed part of the city which would be distinctively Perth in character.

"Other capitals such as Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney have rejuvenated waterfront areas to great effect," Dr Nattrass said.

"The Swan River is one of our greatest assets and we want to develop it in a responsible way so that the people of Perth and visitors from interstate and overseas can enjoy it to the full.

"However, the Council is mindful that most local people would not accept over-development, so a balance has to be struck."

Dr Nattrass said the Council considered that some low-level building development of four to six storeys would be desirable. This could include short-stay accommodation and other mixed uses.

The Lord Mayor said a number of factors had combined to create new opportunities for the Western Foreshore.

These included underground construction of the Southern Suburbs Railway from the Narrows Bridge, a new station on The Esplanade and removal of the flyover at the foot of William Street. The opening of the Perth Convention Exhibition Centre had also placed greater focus on the area.

"The Council is conscious that the river belongs to all of us and for that reason we want to know what the public thinks of our plans," Dr Nattrass said. "The City will work closely with the State Government to ensure all options are considered for this exciting civic development."

"I urge anyone with an interest in the river and its relationship to the city to obtain a copy of the Western Foreshore Concept Plan and to provide feedback."

Copies of the plan are available from Wednesday 29th October from the Customer Service Centre at Council House or by phoning 9461-3358.

Issued by Peter Jackson, Media Liaison Co-ordinator 9461-3342

Lets hope this doesn't turn into another development battle where the council ends up bending over backwards to please the fucken nimby's.

Exciting future seen for foreshore
A plan to convert part of the city’s western river foreshore into a people-friendly civic showplace has been released by the City of Perth.

The Lord Mayor, Dr Peter Nattrass, said the Council wanted to make the space between Barrack Square and the Narrows Bridge more accessible to the public and to create facilities that would draw people to the area.

Another plan? Just when will this windbag get anything done?

No-one's more responsible than this city 'elder' for the trashy run-down dump that inner Perth has become.

He said that the rail lines sinking from Perth to the freeway "will happen", and now it won't. Great exercise in negotiation that was. Nattrass says that something's going to happen come hell or high water. Leighton constructions go "oh, it *will* happen will it? And we're the *only* eligible bidder for it? Right, then we bid for a trillion squillion dollars". Well done Peter Nattrass, giving away all our negotiation cards in advance.

He's spoken of ripping down the butt-ugly law chambers building on Hay street to create a city square between the old treasury buildings and St George's cathedral. Great idea. I haven't heard anything about how he would find the cash to do it. Just another great idea while it seems to take a decade just to REPLACE THE PAVING IN HAY STREET MALL.

Paving. I ask you.

It was the wrong shade of grey or something...

End rant.

the state government own all the land of the projects you have said and they have offered $0 the council can't do much with land they dont' own and a budget not big enough to do anything with the land, this project (foreshore) will probably be a pcc vs state government affair because they can't work together because that would be to logical....

^lol..sad but true.
Although this is a money issue I am also sick of hearing the PCC f*#ken visions. Why do they bother coming out with these when clearly they don’t have a freaken cent to spend or any other means really of accomplishing such ideas???..or maybe they are spending most of it on lavish luncheons. Did u know they have the Hyatt chefs prepare their freaken lunch several times a week. They did whilst I was working at the Hyatt.
The State government have the money and they do get things done yet Nattrass is too proud and thinks he’s King Dick or something.
And yes, parts of Perth city is a total embarrassment . They spend millions doing up Subiaco yet the heart of Perth looks like shite in some places. This is why Nattrass should get off his high horse and work with partnership with the State government. At the moment it seems it’s a ‘us verus ‘them which will get us nowhere. I heard a lot of stories about Nattrass being a real prick personality wise!!

pcc only get $75m a year and tht doesnt go too far when most of it gets spent on paying workers, cleaning ect..

Thats why Nattrass should stop been a prick and suck up to Gallop:D

Sounds like Perth needs a regime change.

All of you guys should run for council,I'll come over and run a support campaign for you,and if anyone speaks out against you I'll impale them on stakes in Forrest Place.

the perth city council is pretty progressive, natrass is the only one who doesen't vote for pide parade not that thats radical or anything, but most councillors have a great passion for revitalising the CBD and bringing in life, its just that they need more funds and the state government to give abit more help

dilaz's pic... great to see riverside drive 1/2 gone!!!!
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great design but the roads cut it off :(

well lets see if alana has the balls to make some REAL changes to the foreshore, or will she be to scared to take away the car lovers 'free'way

yeah i know, if she wants to be liked then she should do the right thing

they can still have a good design and keep the fwy.

and lets hope they don't go on the cheap, i want quality, they have stinged of alot on northbridge compared to east perth redevelopments, with a cut to epras budget, i hope they put in govt money not just private investment and land sales, i want THE BEST for perth not some darling harbour crap

we need to extract the best out of this plan

hell yes! id be really pissed if its shit.

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hey what do all the skycam pics have to do with this project? its not like they have started the masterplan yet.

hey what do all the skycam pics have to do with this project? its not like they have started the masterplan yet.

Usual crap filler / spam ?

the foreshore has to be cleared before it can be developed... hence the bridge being demolished... hence what fueled this project...construction progress ... hence the pics...direct bitching to spam thread or PM...

i think riverside drive access to the freeway should be removed and william street to riverside drive.

that will probably over run other oframps though, until they get very very serious about public transit it will never work without a disaster, they really need a good 20 station on the mandaurah line with much much better feeder services to get maximum use and maximum cars of the road and therefore makes things like that viable

Newly released western foreshore concept plans!

http://www.cityofperth.wa.gov.au/html/pro09_.php

If you have a look at some of the older proposals, like making a huge inlet and small harbour out of the esplanade with a riverside drive bridge , the potential is huge in the future! Who knows what we could end up with in ten years, once this gets up I think the whole area will be more receptive to expansions.

Any thoughts on the proposal? I dont think its big enough, that beach should be removed so that boardwalks can feed straight into barrack square. Maybe another landmark on the north side like the belltower would give people reason to use the promenade going from one tourist attraction to another?

Cable car station to kings park?

I also think that a pedestian bridge from the convention centre is a must in the initial construction, something fancy.

If you would like to comment on the Western Foreshore Indicative Concept Plan please contact Carole Winfield on 9461 3156 and request a hard copy of the public comment brochure. Alternatively you may submit your comments via email edward_andre@cityofperth.wa.gov.au

For further information on the project, Edward Andre can be contacted via the above email address or on 9461 3358.

>>>>see page 52 of todays saturdy west for info on how to comment and an outline of the plans

Seeing the current plan, its such a shame we wont be able to call this development "Circular Quay".

Can some one give me the lowdown so I dont have to read all this research crap. A rendering evem?

yeah open up the paper to what page i told you to... dont' have a paper.. go buy one...

What can I say! Awesome. Incredible. Best thing to happen in perth in a long time. Im not being a smartass either.

he is so nice with words isn't he mikey! :D

i think the barrack square should have no roads (remove riverside drive to the freeway and william street) open up that area for the people!

How can I buy a paper if I'm in London?

dunno but chris is a smart ass so ask him! :D

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Those lake would look so much better with Epra's gateway project.

no shit?

come on dilaz be more constructive than to stoop to chris' levels! :D

ok then ill be like u
omg its looking good blah blah blah. wot do u and subrbia have in common...........you both the same old repeadative shit!HAHAHAHAHA

I don't like how there is parking in the plan we just got 1500 foreshore parking spaces 24-7 on the foreshore @ pcec pcc, a carpark on the foreshore will mean new access roads and this really wont' be a development for the people, with cat buses, new rail station + bus terminal there is sufficient transport close by without stuffing up our people developments with parking, they fucked up subiaco square with parking around it, and its time perth LEARNT from our bad mistakes and make A REAL people freindly area, that doesen't realy on the motor car

however there needs to be access roads for deliveries ect...

there is a plan for an underground network of delivery tunnels in the cbd that is the way to go, build them before the land is developed, and it would be easy

good hopefully they can then close dingy laneways where bums hideout.

I would prefer them to do what melbourne does, take the cars out of the lanes, and lay cobbled paving, do some streetscape works ,and enourage boutiques, espresso bars, cocktail bars, lounges, jaz bars, pubs, restaurants, cafes, urban art etc.. and create ultra urban car free chic lanes, king street-melbourne-paris-london style, very europian and sophisticated, someone you would never be able to find in the suburbs, add some extra class, a nice hideaway for a latte or martini, would attract big speanding tourists, add some urbanity, would be great, just like what is happening in wolfe lane
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there is a plan for an underground network of delivery tunnels in the cbd that is the way to go, build them before the land is developed, and it would be easy

That is a great way to eliminate in buildings its "ugly backside" where a building can be well designed in all 4 directions, but underground services can be constrictive. :(

I really prefer a 'showcase' facade on the street front side, as the city urbanises the other facades should be built out, so the sides can afford to be 'dull' with the main facade very interesting, it will be great if one day we can get cars and trucks out of the mall, in the morning the mall is packed with service trucks and kinda skrews a pedestrian mall

PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION
A public information session on the Western Foreshore Indicative Concept Plan will be conducted by the Rt Hon The Lord Mayor, Dr Peter Nattrass.

Venue: 11th Floor Council House, 27-29 St George's Tce, Perth.
Date: Monday 8 November 2004
Time: 5.00 PM
Registration: If you are interested in attending,please register by telephone on (08) 9461 3156 or email: tammy_ellis@cityofperth.wa.gov.au

perthwa can you do me a favour and go to that foreshore concept meeting?

grab some material and post it here i just dont have the time to do that right now especially on a Monday but id like to get an insiders pov.

Ill be submitting my alterations with my own concept drawings for the marina and inlets, i think they should make a stage two plan, showing how once this initial development is built how you could add to the first stage in 5 to 10 years and being developed even east beyond barrack square - they should think and design this thing as part of a greater whole being the finished product in 20 - 30 years.

i wish they would just put up twice the cash and do it twice as big right now, why is this city so half arsed?

the part for a beach so close to the train station is stupid, this is the most accessible area to the new station and is a vital link to barrack square. the only way this would look good as a beach is if white beach sand were trucked in, but would get washed away in the winter - ive never seen anyone swimming in this part of the river so i think its the most stupid thing ever proposed especially since pleasure craft are being promoted to use the new moorings in this area, what a contradiction! this bit needs to be a boardwalk with more cafes! Id actually like to see riverside drive bridged here with added pedestrian bridges with an inlet into the esplanade, surrounded by even more boardwalks and cafes right next to the station.

Not gonna happen, but would be awesome.

Anyone else want to do some of their own concept plans. if anyone has a server here, id like to post my own renderings for you guys to look at.

might have to open a photobucket account, but i hear that they arent letting anyone else sign up. apparently someone has been over using it posting pics of skyscrapers :-)

the only thing is the state government own all the land, they do fuck all but they won't let the city of perth have a say, i really really really, want to see the crap cut and them to work together to create the best project possible and stop fighting over crap

why is perth 'half arsed', well its all the people we are in a very 'send it the hospitals' kind of city, in melbourne they are speanding $700million on a railway station over $1billion on the library, gallery etc.. $100's of millions on federation square, yet we complain about a $5million bell tower, its really a negative attitude towards just building things to make our city better, fine speand on health and education but you need to spend money on arts and culture and just making the city look good we need a good balance, the residents of perth are scared of big speanding on infrastructure, what will overall benifit the city

im hoping for very good links to the trian station, esplanade, foreshore, busport, pcec etc.. so acess by foot and public transport is as good as possible to create a true area for the people, im bloody embarsed trying to cross the shocking riverside freeway, you have to wait 5mins to cross so the petrohead can wizz by the most stunning part of the city, what a joke
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perthwa - thanks for the image hosting tip - now im in business!

here is my altered plan for the foreshore which I will be mailing to the city of perth. i got my pack in the mail yesterday, pretty much its the same as the pdf file you can download and comes with a feedback form.

let me know what you think of the below plan, ive made the circular quay much larger, extended barrack sqare into the development, added a bridge to the new hotel, new public piazza to the river in front of the station and raised links over riverside drive to the convention centre and esplanade.

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email to the state government as well ultimitely its their land and they have all the say
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any thoughts on my ideas though?

my main biff with the proposal is they are not making the marina big enough and also not linking it properly with barrack square and thus barrack square to the train station. i think adding a pedestrian bridge will add a nice aspect to the river as we dont have many of these so you could make an architectural statement out of it (like the millennium bridge in london) possibly to complement the belltower's architechure, and also this way it would allow patrons of the hotel to use the train station more easily.

the piazza right in front of the station serves two purposes, retaining views from the pcec windows and station and so its a public square at the closest point to the city connections. you could do lots of things here for events, maybe have some fountains or water features as well as grass and lots of outdoor seating which pay complement to the area's history, maybe small billboards with photos of how the area used to be, and of course a tribute to the local aboriginal people. a nice swan statue similar to the one at burswood would look good.

make a plan up chris (dilaz, pas, auz?), this took me an hour to scan and draw. the more map style ideas they get the more they might play with it.

another idea of mine which i prefer is to make a water inlet into the esplanade here and continue the boardwalks and cafes all around the edge with riverside drive being bridged over the water inlet, but this is too far fetched and dredging costs a lot of money, so maybe as a stage 2 or 3 in the year 2020.

anyway, enough for one day, im drawing a 3d picture of it ill post in a few days.

i like your idea of linking! cnt wait to see ur 3d picture

Scraper fan your the man. I think you need to send this in. Espcially the pedestrian bridge.

hmm i need more time to come up with my vison, but one thing i can tell you is from other cities i dont' want it to look like the ugly run down tacky hole that is darling harbour

never been. my parents have and my mother thought is was "WONDERFUL!" so ill have to take your word for it, i suppose different people see different things, but ive come to trust your judgement these past few months man...

thats for the rap mikey, i just think that a bridge would become a gateway statement into the marina and would allow you to do a complete lap, by foot, of the marina rather than walk to the end then have to come all the way back to the station, thats craziness and yet a town planner hasnt thought of this! (what the?)

i dont think all is lost for perth, looking at this brochure on the history of the foreshore, in just fifty years the area has transformed into something that not even the biggest psychic back then could of imagined (maybe too awful a reality to see hehe), so once this gets up and given perth's growth and economic prosperity in the next 20 years, i think it will turn out to be something pretty special.

in a couple of years i think we will be looking at an eastern foreshore concept plan.

Sydney harbour is wonderful. I dont know what bad experience chris had, but frankly I dont care.

a lettor to the edditor... just a sign of how so many residents have a rock as a brain and really need to be educated! down with nimbys, its about time this city took a more postive approach to development....


Stop this blight on the Perth foreshore
I attended a meeting on Monday, November 8, called by the City of Perth to discuss a concept plan for the redevelopment of the Swan River foreshore between The Narrows Bridge and the Barrack Street jetty.

The plan proposes a massed commercial development with four to six-storey buildings on the foreshore together with a high-rise hotel supported on piles built over the river.

The lord mayor, Peter Nattrass, called the meeting for public comment.

As a lover of the city, a ratepayer and ex-Subiaco councillor with some planning experience, here is my comment.

I am fundamentally opposed to the redevelopment on the grounds that it would cause an irreversible blight on the pleasant and agreeable visual amenity of our beautiful city.

The unbroken views from the foreshore to King's Park, from Riverside Drive to Mt Eliza, from South Perth to the city and beyond would be lost forever.

The views from King's Park to the city would be even more affected. The unbroken sweep of the river foreshore with its trees, lakes and greenery will disappear and be replaced by tall buildings blocking out the view of the river.

The Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre has already given us an industrial landscape look which is distressing, but at least it has not blocked the view to the river. The current concept certainly will.

This lovely city of ours has the most beautiful and uncluttered river and city vistas of any city in the world.

The proposed redevelopment is not designed to replace a neglected industrial landscape, like Melbournians faced at South Bank, or Sydneysiders faced at Darling Harbour.

I call for a public rally on the foreshore under the flagpole to give everybody a chance to speak on this vital matter.

Barry Fehlberg
Onslow Road, Shenton Park

holy shit, i would love to bury this guy.

i think the development would be awsome! i got the brochure from the Lord Mayor (personally addressed and signed on the letter too! :D) i think anything is better than an ugly freeway interchange!

what you have to understand is though, this is another city of perth pipedream, its the state government land, and they will have all the final say on it, what we really have to hope for is the parties working close together to come up with a great design and not cat fights, i really hope they can act like adults and both put in funds and work together for a world class precint, they should really have a joint committee now, and come up with a plan both groups like and the public so we get this project happening

Man I hate that guy..What the fuck is so special about the piece of shit thats currently there at the moment.

that guy wouldnt know what hes talking about as it all depends on the architectual designs of the structure which arnet even planned yet.

if you want a copy of the plan the battle library has a copies top floor of the state library

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finally a design for people instead of greenhouse sprewing cars!!

proposed brisbane waterfront development>>>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=150913

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River pathway to be moved
A section of the shared pathway along the Swan River in Crawley is to be realigned to enhance safety for cyclists and pedestrians.

The Council of the City of Perth has approved funding of $42,000 for the work, which will also include a new grassed area, removal of an existing steel railing and modifications to the adjoining car park.

City of Perth Acting Chief Executive Officer Garry Dunne said that reconstruction of the Swan River wall in the area to the west of the Old Swan Brewery had provided the opportunity to improve the pathway.

"The new shared pathway will be built five metres farther away from the river wall to minimise any hazard to users," Mr Dunne said.

"A larger grassed area between the wall and the shared path will enhance the appearance of the area.

"At the same time, safety at the nearby car park will be improved by construction of a new exit driveway on to Mounts Bay Road."

Work on the new pathway section is due to begin in mid-December. Construction of the new river wall is already under way

So this guy thinks a road running about 20m's from the edge of the river is just fine. Also. between the Narrows and Barrack St Jetty is reclaimed land anyway. They are not proposing 20 storey buildings on the edge of the river here. I wish this guy would retire and move to Mandurah or better still, move down south somewhere and hug a tree.

It's progress dude. It seems the older these people get the more resistant to change they are. Oh, while we are at it, let's just advocate that Perth keeps sprawling north and south endlessly.

exactly its abosulte conservatism, i don't understand why people are so scared of change i mean they have allowed crime and drugs to take over yet wont' lets perth urban characterists change, why not let perth's landscape change, and hopefully better urban design will help combat crime etc.. maybe if they put more effort into social issues than stopping development the spiral of problems wouldn't be so great

hey perthwa or any1 .. have u maybe heard anything if we might be geting some new buildings in perth ////? ..

Thank fuck we have some people with common sense in perth!


Foreshore: drop 1960s mindset
Like former Subiaco councillor Barry Fehlberg ("Stop this blight on the Perth foreshore", POST, 13/11), I too am a lover of Perth.

But we have to move with the times and get out of this 1960s mindset that stops us from creating exciting and vibrant developments within the city .

This proposed redevelopment gives Perth a wonderful opportunity to move forward and present the city and its foreshore in a modern and progressive light.

We need more international standard developments like this to enhance our already well received reputation as a city with a cosmopolitan future.

Jeremy Reed
Hensman Street, Kensington

Kensington, como, south perth= forward

Crappy northern burbs who love thier WAFL teams= 1960

only one week left for the public consulatation. i expect all you guys to have alternate maps drawn and written submissions sent in.

we need to get rid of that stupid beach (on a river haha hilarious!) and for larger scale development here. the more alternatives they get the better, its such a baby project in its current form, we need to start big, or plan big and build in stages, not plan small build small, then expand later on new plans, it needs to be drawn up as a huge project, built as such or in stages.

get your plans in fellas.

I got my 1000 word one in, might do another one to, i sent them to the state government as well

what do u send in???? can i draw a plan and send it in?

just ideas and concepts of what you want it to be like. you dont need to make a full plan if you dont want to

ive started drawing some stuff, whats the adress?

and comment on what you think of thier plan and changes u want and things you like

Hey all. I've been reading this forum for 18 months and I finally feel compelled to register and pen my thoughts. Its nice to see the vicious circle of debate continues in regard to our beloved city, Perth. I am a resident of Perth, born and bred, but have been fortunate enough to have spent 3.5 continuous years travelling the world...have lived at length in some great cities overseas, and have seen first hand many many more. I am very passionate about our city, and there are many issues doing the rounds at the moment that I find imminently frustrating. I too love Perth for what it is...but see much wasted potential around me, and procrastination and lack of strategic vision in regard to the decisions our city planners, and more recently, our State Government. I hardly know where to start...

Perth is an interesting city, and many of the issues we face today are typical of a relatively young, growing city. It is so important for Perth's survival that bold, long term decisions (made in the best interests of the city and greater metro area) are made now.

Notice use of the word 'bold'. These decisions will require courage, vision and a genuine commitment to make our city a better place. Yes, that means change, and yes, it will take time, but I live in hope that many of our concepts, plans, and proposals will actually get off the ground. Perth does not have a great track record for getting things done. Two issues I am extremely passionate about at the moment are the Swan River foreshore redevelopment, and the redevelopment of the Scarborough Beach precinct (I have lived there for the past 7 years).

I too was at the meeting/information forum held by the Lord Mayor on Nov 8th. I applaude his initative to redevelop the foreshore. It is desperately required, there is no doubt about that. I disagree strongly to any form of objection to the river foreshore redevelopment. I believe this attitude is narrowminded, conservative, and selfish. And I believe I am entitled to my opinion. With the (slow to happen but hopefully) inevitable increase in density in the city, what is blantly missing at the moment is infrastructure, amenities, and things to do...all which would ultimately fulfill the purpose of attracting people to (live in) the city. It is no secret that there is a severe lack of facilities and things to do in and around the CBD. Make no mistake. Perth city is beautiful, but it is, in my opinion, boring. I love Perth. But it could be so much BETTER.

As it happens I am actually writing this email from a hotel room in Brisbane, where I am at the moment due to work commitments. It is the debate taking place in posts above, and the fact that I am actually in Brisbane at the moment that has prompted me to join this forum and contribute. I have been to Brisbane many times, and it never ceases to amaze me just how lively this place is. Peoples' posts are correct. It really IS going-off. There are so many cranes in the sky, the place is abuzz. The density is deceptive. When you walk through Brisbane you really feel like you are in a vibrant city. Its exciting to be here. And I've also been to Sydney and Melbourne in the past 12 months, and I know they have their fair share of problems in regard to apartment saturation, but the infrastructure and work in progress is just mind-blowing compared to Perth. Why do people chose to spend time in these CBDs? Why do people choose to party in the city? Sure, they have bigger populations, but in the case of Brisbane, only slightly so. It is because there are THINGS TO DO. Example in point. I spent all of Sunday at Southbank...and I was there for a beer last Friday afternoon as well. Interestingly, there were as many people around on Friday as there were on Sunday. It was a hive of activity. This kind of patronage is unheard Perth, and we could really take a leaf out of Brisbanes book as they have really made a place worthy of international recognition at Southbank. It is really impressive. The artifical beaches are very well done, the cafes and restaurants abundant, the many boardwalks, the EXPO leftovers that are now popular and fascinating tourist attaractions, popular use of river ferrys, accessability, the FREE parking (albiet just for the 1st hour), all make for fantastic precinct right on the edge of the river. We could do similar in Perth. We SHOULD do similar in Perth. It is imperative that the building blocks be laid now. I cannot understand any opinion that would not want to draw people to the city. We have kilometers of river foreshore. I see no reason why we should not realise the potential of one of our great assets and begin to redevelop the entire perimeter west of the Barrack St jetty, as a minimum.

I agree the buildings should not be too tall along this frontage. But to me, 4 to 6 stories would be ample and would NOT block views of the river from Mt. Elisa. Perth water is indeed a greater area than our CBD in its entirety. There is plenty more open water there to look at.

Our government wants to increase density in the city, and in population hubs around the metro area. How can they seriously expect our city to move forward if they don't provide incentives for potential residents to move into the city? They make it hard for developers by ridiculing their plans and they disagree as a matter of principle with the Perth City Council who are trying to accelerate the resolution of these issues. We need concencus and for these two entities to work together with the best interests of the City at heart, not pushing their own agendas effectively working against each other. One of the most exciting proposals on the cards at the moment is the two residential towers proposed by Westpoint on Spring St. Doesn't the government see (oh sorry, they lost their view!!??) that these projects would stand a far better chance of success if they supported these proposals with proactive supporting development within the vicinity? The canned Sarich Icon tower proposal was a loss to the city. I have no doubt that if the city were a more desireable place to live, those projects would sell, demand would increase, more projects would get off the ground, and the process would positively snowball. It takes more than concept plans 10 years in the making and some idle hype to make it work.

The best thing Alannah McTiernan did was stick her neck out and get that train line underway. It is about time, and future generations in Perth will be grateful for the hard yards we do now. Imagine a city like London trying to forge the tunnels that make up the Underground infrastructure in this day and age. Indeed they are still expanding it in some places, but the work takes years, and it only gets more difficult to make it feasible, and more expensive as time goes on. Its time the old school made way for the 21st century. To the State Government I say, I applaude the trainline but please don't stop there. Sort out you differences with the Perth City Council, and move forward quickly in a manner that is in the best interests of the City. You all have an opportunity to make a difference and be remembered for something great. Please drop this attitude of making it somebody elses problem, realise that Perth still has a long way to go, stop doing things in half measures (sink Riverside Dve!), and move forward.

Here's to a great riverside infrastructure, and a much improved City of Perth.

I think that will do for now :-) Thanks for listening.

WOW , thats the first time ive read something that long (i usually loose intrest, being 13 and all) i really like ure ideas , I am very biased though i hate hearing about brisbane and how good it is. My Uncle is from townsville and he is extremely boring.

As if the government gives a shit about us?? thats why when the other forumers send letters and stuff i don't bother - who's gunna listen to a 13 year old??? no one, they only listen to high people and don't give a shit about the public's opinion!

I actually like Brisbane but i can't say it anywhere but here! i wish our towers were closer to the river like theres (even tho there river sucks)

South Perth could never be a Northbank Or Southbank because it is to far across the water!

Perth would be better positioned in fremantle.

In 10 years we might look a bit better but i still like Perth for now> The swan foreshore developement would be good!

It's sorta like the leighton marshalling yard (which i live near) my parents hate the idea but i'm sorta for it because im into that kind of stuff, even though i use to be obsessed with trains when i was a little fella.

Thanks for sharing that with us Inmytree.

Brisbane owes a lot of its success to having one entire council for the whole of Brisbane.This means really professional people who are moving the city forward.

couldnt of said it better myself, nice speech mate

send those worthy comments to allannah mctiernan, the mayor of stirling, dr natrass the lord mayor of perth, geoff gallo and the sunday times and west australian.

Nice read InMyTree. I agree with Scraperfan….send it off immediately!:).Oh and send it to the opposition leader too..Gallop may be on his last leg!.
Perth does have a lot to offer put the one thing which is letting us down tremulously is the CBD. We are lucky here to have our “Natural Icons” but unfortunately a lot of people think that is enough. I know people who have not been in the CBD for years. If we can get this right, as well as the redevelopment of Scarb beach (highrise) :p ..well there is no telling where this city can take us.

Found this in another thread..I’m not one to post spam (we’ll leave it to Chris:D) put I think this article is appropriate in what this discussion is about….He has my vote!
Coordinated city planning pledge
http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/admin/files/article/property-lge4423.jpg

Opposition leader Colin Barnett says a Liberal State government will look to establish a State-City of Perth planning authority to deal with planning in the city.

Mr Barnett said Perth was the culture and heart of Western Australia and that something needed to be done to attract people back to the city, which he claims has fallen behind other capital cities.

“There needs to be big picture planning and big picture decision making,” he said. “The city is off the pace and has fallen behind other major cities in Australia.

“A well planned city with planning ahead of development will ensure a quality of lifestyle.

“It will take money and thinking outside of the square to become a truly great capital city.”

Lord Mayor Peter Nattrass could not be reached for a comment due to overseas travel, but a spokesman from the City of Perth said “grand visions” could not become reality without money behind them.

“These sort of things take a lot of money and it comes down to where that money will come from,” the spokesman said.

Addressing a Property Council lunch last week, Mr Barnett also said a Coalition Government would look to establish a permanent redevelopment authority, which would help local governments with larger projects as needed.

“Redevelopment authorities have been very good – bringing in those bodies for a limited time to revitalise and renew sites is a big stimulus for development,” Mr Barnett said.

“There are some unique issues which are outside the scope of local government, and we need the capacity for the State government to take over the issues for a short period of time.”

He cited the Claremont Shopping Centre redevelopment as an example, saying it was a good project, but beyond the scope of the local government.

“We propose the creation of a permanent redevelopment authority for Perth – an agency which moves from area to area and help local government as needed,” Mr Barnett said.

Participants in last month’s WA Business News forum on coastal development also raised the need for such an authority.

Cottesloe Mayor Rob Rowell said having State government assist local government was a fantastic idea, and anything that helped local governments was a move in the right direction.

“Local government doesn’t have the resources for some of the larger projects,” he told last month’s forum.

“I wouldn’t want it to supplant the role of local government though – they need to still have a say in how things progress.”

Mr Barnett said he had garnered a high level of dissatisfaction with the planning processes, and would have a minister solely dedicated to planning.

In terms of tax policy, Mr Barnett said that too often tax was left as a residual policy when it should be an overt, up-front agenda.

“Tax policy is one of the things I am happy to be judged on – it is a prime policy objective, not an afterthought,” Mr Barnett said.

And in a direct pitch to his lunchtime audience, Mr Barnett said the property industry had, more than any other, paid more than its fair share of taxes.

“Our prime financial policy is to lower, and continually lower tax across the board,” he said.

“I intend to use the natural growth of the economy to walk down rates of tax, year in and year out, and share the benefits of the GST.”

:cheers: btw..thanx for the article Chris!:o

Thanks for the positive comments guys. Its nice to know I'm not alone in this. As it happens I have been an avid campaigner for 16 storey buildings in Scarborough and the redevelopment for as long as I can remember. I have written to Alannah (twice), had letters published in the Stirling Times, and written to the City of Stirling. I guess its best to talk about Scarborough in the appropriate thread, hence will not elaborate here, but the essence is the same. We need to do things with a view to the long term benefits for the city now, and not put them off to be dealt with sometime in the future.

RocStar, cheers for the quote (above). I have not come across this before, and I must say its the smartest thing that has come out of Colin Barnetts mouth that I have ever heard. I didn't think I'd ever say this but I agree with him. The notion of a State-City governing body over decisions regarding the City is a great idea. They will need the to power to make the final call in a decision, overriding the State Government and/or Councillors if need be. It sounds like a long shot, but a definate step in the right direction. I think they'd even get my vote if they could convince me they'd go through with it.

One thing I will say in closing is that Perth is on the right track. There are things happening in the City, and the past 5 years have seen many changes for the better. Development is happening slowing. I'd just like to see it accelerate a bit, and the tougher decisions being made, not avoided.

We don't want to bite off more than we can chew, and its true development has to be in-line with our population (with the provision for expansion in the future). We want to be able to sustain everything we do to ensure each projects success, so in reality it must be done in stages. But lets break ground and get the ball rolling. Momentum is a wonderful thing.

lol nice.

am i invisible? (makes me wonder why i spend 5 minutes writing)

i wana see somethen like this on the foreshore
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7638/401287638ml1099555216.jpg

phatt along your voise may mean crap but as a group people have to take notice, i mean all those nimbys agains the ningaloo marina are worthless but look at the power they had in numbers, the more people who show their support the better, its important people your age send in letters and support because its shows the next generation is in support, and there is a broad spectrum of support, also when an application is desided on the amount of submission in favour and against holds a big baring on the desision, so your letters and opinion are very important

welcome to the forum 'inmytrees' great to have you, and great to see another supporter of development on this forum, keep up the good work, and make sure you get your opinion out there

i think a new planning body would be good, our councils are to out of touch to deal with a big planning application its almost a joke how badly they deal with development

i walked in the nigaloo march like 2 yrs ago or wenever.

grrrrrrr dont' tell me that dude seriously lol fuck your a nimby!!! nimby nimby nimby ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

lol nice.

am i invisible? (makes me wonder why i spend 5 minutes writing)

And thank you Perth4life3. I appeciate your comments as well. We are all on the same side here :-)

no i just beleve that some things should be kept normal.

I must say its the smartest thing that has come out of Colin Barnetts mouth that I have ever heard. .
Lol...that’s so true….but as you said, if he is that committed to the city, he has my vote for sure. I think someone should ask him out straight if he will sink the Northbridge line!!!

Pratt..there is too much normal here:D

colin barnett is a dick head, hes turned up to so many nimby marches to win votes, hes full of crap, just looking for an election win, atleast with the alp we have a $1.5billion metrorail upgrade, though it was the libs who started that though thier route was dodgy, im really fed up with our lack of choice in govt in this state alp vs libs shit was a shocking choice, both parties are terrible, this labour govt is shocking but what are you going to do replace them with barnett? its a loose loose situation

ELA'N RIVERSIDE PIER HOTEL
BARRCKS SQUARE, PERTH CBD
CONSTRUCTION STARTS FEBRUARY

>>>>www.riversidepier.com.au

Riverside Pier is located on the Swan River at Barrack Square,
a short stroll from St. George's Terrace,
the Hay Street shopping precinct and the
Perth Convention and Exhibition Centre.
You'll find plenty of style and excitement
at the cafes, bars and restaurants and
one of Australia's most elegant hotels,
the Élan Perth. The only place to relax on the Swan River
- in the heart of the city.

http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/deck.jpg
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http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/interior.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/night1.jpg
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http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/room.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/overall.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/pano.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/lucky.jpg
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http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/london.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/cafe.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/northbridge.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid148/pfca14125a2433de59c4a0621054619b0/f61c2fe7.jpg

I was out there last night. At my friends 21st. Great site I think, cant wait for it to be completed.

Dont tell me perthwa that you actually wonted the Ningaloo Project to go forward? It was a horrible plan, it would of destroyed Coral Bay!

yes he does want it. im all against it and anythign that will cause a big negative impact to the environment.

if dr. gallop decides to what colin barnett plans to do to perth city, then hes got my vote. right now i dont know who to go for.

that hotel looks awesome, especially in this pic
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/top.jpg

and it'll look cool from riverside drive!
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/overall.jpg
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/pano.jpg

and it blocks mr courts wanky bell tower
http://www.riversidepier.com.au/imagery/side.jpg

it might also bring some life to the cbd at night!

wanky bell tower? its a masterpiece of architecture!:D

I love the belltower 10 out of bloody 10!! a brilliant landmark for perth!

The Bell Tower Rules. Mainly because one of the tiles surrounding it have my name on it, with my messy Yr 4 writing.

the new south perth jetty is back on the cards this time only single levels but creating a new transperth ferry jetty and expanding the cafe on the current jetty, the elan' riverside pier will have multiple cafes, restaurants and bars, and extend onto the lucky shag's broadwalk
http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_mwetz/australia/bilder/perth1/perth125.jpg

http://www.markhayrealtygroup.com.au/resize.asp?width=254&path=images/properties/49012/49012_LG.jpg
http://www.aussiehome.com/images/properties/49012/49012_MP4.jpg
http://www.aussiehome.com/images/properties/49012/49012_MP3.jpg

oh i thought it was infront of the bell tower.

the bell tower would be good if it was 50m bigger and 20m wider

http://www.cockburncentral.com.au/images/purd.gif

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Portals/6/bannerA3.gif

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Portals/6/Esplanade_con53.jpg

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Portals/6/TTTGallery/Southern%20Suburbs%20Railway/City%20Works/The%20Esplanade%20Station/The_Esplanade_Station_artists_impression(3).jpg

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Portals/6/TTTGallery/Southern%20Suburbs%20Railway/City%20Works/The%20Esplanade%20Station/The_Esplanade_Station_artists_impression(2).jpg

http://www.newmetrorail.wa.gov.au/Portals/6/EsplanadeStation_1.jpg

when will the elan begin construction?

for the 3rd time in the last 10 or so posts, STARTS IN FEB

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid149/p9f1d075468e5e61888c7007abab1ec5f/f6014f4c.jpg
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whilst driving on riverside drive the other day i was talking to my grandfather about this ( i pretended i didn't know what was happening :P) and he said they are going to build a mariner??? (btw he owns an interior shop at broadway fair)

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Copy of my letter written today to Edward Andre, leading town planner heading foreshore development for PCC:

Dear Edward,

Firstly I will start by saying that I commend you and all of those involved in propelling this planning issue for the City Of Perth into the current limelight and for laying the foundations for what will eventually become the catalyst for the development of the entire shoreline of the Swan River between Kings Park and Burswood Resort.

My interest in any tourism related developments is quite strong and being a lifelong resident of Perth, I also have a keen interest in the development and town planning of the Perth Metropolitan Area, having attended the Dialogue With The City forum.

Please find enclosed an alternative concept plan which I have drawn up for your perusal. This map introduces several elements to the visionary, original plan presented in your concept brochure, which I feel would enhance the project, or give you some ideas that may not previously have been considered or focused on.

On the whole, I feel that this project should be developed with the longer term expansion in mind and is why on my own indicative plan I have increased the scale of the project, especially where the size of the marina is concerned. In my plan, increasing the size of the main pier element which would accommodate the new hotel, allows for increased linkages and pedestrian flow around the complex while at the same time providing room for more buildings and facilities. At the end of the expanded pier I have linked it to the main shoreline boardwalks via a pedestrian bridge which could be designed with architectural flair and created as a visual landmark, perhaps to the same style as the Swan Belltower to increase the areas visual branding.

This pedestrian bridge would be tall enough to allow ferries and boats underneath to the new Marina where I have placed additional ferry and boat moorings. The bridge is linked to the shoreline at a position most close to the new Esplanade Train Station which would certainly gain a lot of traffic due to its proximity and would allow pedestrians to complete a circular navigation of the Marina instead of having to backtrack through the complex from the Hotel. It would also provide raised viewing vantage points of the entire area.

The linkage near the Esplanade Train Station is at an area designated as a building free public Piazza, which would allow the view corridor to the Swan River from the Perth Exhibition And Convention Centre and also the Esplanade Train Station to be retained, providing easy access from these facilities to each section of the new development. This new riverside Piazza could be paved with fountains and seats whist being decorated with public art, trees, flowers, flags, light poles and grass to provide a focal meeting point right next to the Swan River and also in the closest proximity to transport options. It could be named as Swan Square, or West Barrack Square, a place to be known throughout the city.

To the east of the new Piazza and Pier Bridge, I have removed the beach element of the development as I feel that this area, being so close to the train station would be wasted as a beach and given the intended boating usage of the area is not a safe or desirable option. Placing a beach in this area also cuts Barrack Square off from the new marina severing the two developments into separate areas. This is why I have expended the pavilions and jetties of Barrack Square to feed directly into the new Piazza and Boardwalks which would allow a seamless pedestrian transition from Barrack Square and the Swan Belltower into the new development areas. Also in this area are new lakes and pedestrian linkages over Riverside Drive to further increase the pedestrian focus of the development.

Where the beach is still concerned, if this is a must for the development to cater for families, I have placed this beach as an optional extra to the far West of the Marina near Mounts Bay Road. Ths also allows for a visual transition from the existing shoreline into the new Pier development of the Marina.

Where the architectural aspect of the entire development is concerned, I feel that no more than two to four floors would be ideal for this development, as the view retention from existing developments will be an extremely sensitive issue for the public, with a six to ten floor building or taller that could be included as a landmark structure. Base structures at each end of the pedestrian bridge could be quite tall in order to provide further landmark status. The style of architecture should be in keeping with that already built at Barrack Square including spike style structures in a similar vein to the Swan Belltower.

Fountains, flags and palm trees should be used around the entire precinct to increase the visual amenity, with billboards, public art and plasma advertising screens to be added to buildings in order to increase the consumer importance of the area.

Additional features to be added to this development on the far Western side could include a Cable Car Station, Tramway or Pedestrian Bridges right up to Kings Park. This will create a tourist pedestrian corridor to be established from each end of the precinct from the ferries and Swan Belltower right up to Kings Park. An additional train station could be built at the base of the Narrows Bridge, catering for Kings Park. The aforementioned facilities would provide transit up the slope of Mt Eliza to Kings Park.

Covering of the Narrows Freeway Interchange could also provide additional land space for expansion if the area proves to be a resounding success. Additional expansions and a more interesting form could also be given to the Swan River foreshore east of Barrack Square in the future, presented as an “Eastern Foreshore Indicative Concept Plan”.

I hope that my ideas presented here may provide additional imaginative inspiration for this development as we have only one chance to build something truly inspirational that will stand the test of time and also judgment from visitors and the good citizens of Perth.

Please feel free to contact me about this feedback on 0414 406 942 as I would be eager to discuss with anyone interested.

Many thanks for your time and best of luck with the project.

SHIT that is an awesome idea !!!!!!! you are an excelent drawer!

i tried doing a map of my idea, but i can't draw the surroundings so theres no point.

I do like your proposal better Scraperfan. I like how you have a huge Piazza. At night it can come alive with street performers, small market stands, open food courts etc.

With regards to the beach, I wasn’t to sure if we should even have it as well but apparently it’s a huge hit in Brisbane. Maybe still have the beach in its original location ..(where you have the lakes) but still keeping with your design of the extended jetties and pavilions. Wouldn’t this beach have to be sealed from the river anyway or do they swim in the river? I’m pretty sure it’s sealed off in Brisbane.

I also like your pedestrian links better which for some reason aren’t really that clear on the PCC plan. I think this is an extremely important factor. A large pedestrian flow down to the foreshore I think would come from William St, Barrack St and the PCEC incl the train station. These three areas should be taken into high consideration to ensure the best possible links are made. I’m not to sure what that ‘long pedestrian link west on the PCC plan is about.

Lets as know when you get a reply :cheers:

i cant find the PCC plan??? can someone post it??

btw he'll probably just reply "thankyou for you email, we will look in to it"

You need to download it >>
http://www.cityofperth.wa.gov.au/html/pro09_.php
..download pages 4-7...it's pretty much similar to Scraperfans only SF is better :p

nice, i got mine in ages ago prob was about 1500 words sent it to all the relevant government departments and agencies too

So can you post what you wrote?? come on now..lol..ok what key points did u write then. Am genuinely interested to know your ideas...which Im sure are good too.

didn't save it, its long gone in the post/email... just commented on what i liked, what i didn't like, and what i wanted... a good view of all the foreshore action go to the very eastern side of perth convention exchibition centre concourse next to esplanade busport terminal

hey guys thanks for the feedback.

perthwa, how did your ideas differ from mine? Id be interested to know if you thought of anything that I havnt? My best plan involved ripping up the esplanade and creating an inlet with cafes and boardwalks all the way past the station and having riverside drive bridged across it, looks fantastic and would be great but i think dregding the area and making sure that the foundations of the nearby tallies wouldnt be compromised would be too much of a mission, so although this is second best it still works well.

Rocstar, having the beach beind the extended paviliions and boardwalks would be a great idea, i wouldnt mind that at all, at least then they could truck in the white sand and not have it washed away so if I talk to edward at the pcc ill give him that update.

Edward has worked on a pretty significant waterfront development in Malaysia but their budget was $300 million, he said how the govt should be putting more money into it to get it right but its not gonna happen.

Perth4life - I got the surrounds from screenshotting the map from a pdf, then printing it out and drawing alterations with pencil then colouring in the highlighter.

I did start to draw a 3d picture of it, was half way done and was looking great but i spilt a bloody coke on it, couldnt be bothered starting it again!

I cant wait to see 3d flythoughs of this thing, an indicative one is out there, and is going to be released in january.

Perth4life - I got the surrounds from screenshotting the map from a pdf, then printing it out and drawing alterations with pencil then colouring in the highlighter.

I did start to draw a 3d picture of it, was half way done and was looking great but i spilt a bloody coke on it, couldnt be bothered starting it again!

I cant wait to see 3d flythoughs of this thing, an indicative one is out there, and is going to be released in january.
can you send me the map? or give me the link? i would really like to put my ideas out.

Download the pdf by clicking this link:
http://www.cityofperth.wa.gov.au/html/pro_pdffiles/wf_broch_back_web.pdf

Take a screenshot of the plan area using the acrobat reader snapshot tool, save it to your hdd and print it out, its really easy trust me.

Or ring the city of perth and ask them to send you a feedback brochure on it, theyll have plenty lying around still.