Druskininkai is, probably the richest and most developed town in Lithuania. With only ~20.000 inhabitants, it sure has quite some interesting projects.

While it was known and visited for couple of centuries, due to it's mineral springs, the town is now diversifying it's menu of activities offered.

Add to the restored old ones, at least a few highest class SPA hotels were opened in the last couple of years, biggest water park in Baltic states, towns streets and parks were reconstructed and refurbished, numerous private villas and a number of apartment buildings were built. They, however, differ from others in Baltic states due to quality of architecture.

Now, the active municipality of town, has plans on:

one of the biggest indoor skiing complexs in Europe,
a new golf course
sports complex meeting all the highest FIFA and IAF standards
Reconstruction of Airport
New bridge over Nemunas river
A movie theater and a 900 seat concert hall
Numerous other projects...

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Just a few projects:

Apartment complex, u/c

Architects: A. Ambrasas, S. Kuncevicius and a bunch of others...

http://www.contestus.lt/page/upload/modproject_481069794c2cf_b1.jpg

http://www.contestus.lt/page/upload/modproject_481068cba36b3_b1.jpg

http://www.contestus.lt/page/upload/modproject_481068cba36b3_b2.jpg

http://www.contestus.lt/page/upload/modproject_481068cba36b3_b3.jpg


Hotel and a conference centre, u/c

~30 mln euros

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080916/KosciuskosG_1.jpg


Reconstruction of Airport and construction of new facilities around it

Will be able to serve airplanes of up to 70 passengers. There is a demand for it, as geography of the incoming tourists is expanding to west, and few enjoy driving a car or a bus on polish roads.

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080916/Aerodromas_D.jpg


Indoor skiing complex

Includes an ice rink and bobsleigh track

~50 mln euros

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080916/Slidinejimo_trasa.jpg


60 ha Golf course

Architect - Johan Benestam - a swedish architect, mostly famous for his golf course built for Donald Trump in New Jersey.


Bridge over Nemunas river

130 meters long and 13 meters wide car/bicycle/pedestrian bridge over one of the longest rivers in EE.

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081116/P10202781.JPG

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081116/P10202761.JPG

The afore mentioned sports complex

Includes training grounds for all kinds of IAF sports, also swimming pools, rehabilitation center, and other stuff....

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080123/New%20Picture.jpg



Various apartment buildings

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20071228/Villa_Mineral1.jpg


http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080228/Kosciuskos_12_1.jpg


http://cache.edomus.lt/i/upload/invest_objects/y08/w00/d4/55.jpg


http://www.nica.lt/mambots/content/plugin_jw_sig/showthumb.php?img=Drusk20/pics2/nica1.jpg


http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20081116/200804051207409607.jpg

Better quality renders of a previously mentioned project

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/PRE_bendras1.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_1.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_2.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_3.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_4.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_5.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_6.jpg
http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20080121/Pre_7.jpg

Wow! Some pretty sweet projects!

Awesome projects for such a tiny town. I LOVE the last picture!

Wow :D

Wish they made the airport be able to handle bigger planes tho!

Can't wait to see those projects finished :)

Druskininkai? Target audience are Belorussian tourists or something?

Because of a geographical position there always were tourists from Belorussia. Moreover, Belorussia has its one sanatorium there. There also were tourists from Russia and Ukraine, cause Druskininkai resort town was famous in Soviet times - it was very popular at those times between russians, ukrainians, belorussians and so on.

But because of Schengen agreement and EU there are some difficulties with visas for them, so Druskininkai now started targeting Poland, Latvia and Estonia, as well. Numbers of tourist from these countries are growing each year.

Moreover, Druskininkai decided to target Nordic tourists. So these projects are specifically designed to attract international tourists and to make Druskininkai a regional resort :)

Here are some photos for you to get an impression of Druskininkai:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/LietuvaDruskininkai.png

http://foto.miestai.net/inkelti/20070223/druskininkai.jpg

http://icons.bookings.net/images/hotel/org/376/376708.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/200.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/204.JPG

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/576.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/572.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/575.JPG

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1287.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1286.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2435.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2457.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2458.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/587.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/589.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/591.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1295.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1294.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1292.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1297.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1251.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1250.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1254.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1258.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/1260.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2409.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2404.jpg

http://info.druskininkai.lt/images/default/source/gallery/2444.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Druskininkai%2C_Water_park_tubes.jpg/800px-Druskininkai%2C_Water_park_tubes.jpg

Could anybody tell me what is the story with the reconstruction of Druskininkai Airport, is it in progress? :)

alot of nice projects :

But because of Schengen agreement and EU there are some difficulties with visas for them, so Druskininkai now started targeting Poland, Latvia and Estonia, as well. Numbers of tourist from these countries are growing each year.



Many tourists form NE Poland choose Druskiennikai, because it`s the closest resort.

The Indoor Skiing Track is well under way, bank Snoras has invested a hefty sum in the project resulting in the new name „Snoras Snow Arena“.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/taimis/Skyscrapercity/Druskininkai-1.png

It is expected to open this winter.

Druskininkai is, probably the richest and most developed town in Lithuania.

Really ? I thought Palanga was richer.

Druskininkai out-performed Palanda long time ago - the mayor is genius :)

I'd choose Druskininkai over Palanga any day. There's just more stuff to do there. Palanga is crowded with annoying, loud villagers and the only good thing about that town is the sea. Its OK for a stag weekend or if you just want to get drunk, but there's nothing to do over there, especially if the whether is bad.

Palanga has an airport ! :baeh3:

And it is so close to Latvia :tongue2:

And a better road connection with Lithuania's big cities ;)

And a better road connection with Lithuania's big cities ;)

Well, the A4 road Vilnius - Druskininkai is is of excellent quality and the distance is much shorter, so it depends on which city we're talking about.

well, A13 to Klaipeda, then A1 to Vilnius or Kaunas, perhaps using A11 you can get to Siauliai or Panevezys as well ;)

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^^ When will they build it?

interesting project nice video:)

^^ When will they build it?

Well, they're predicting that it'll be done by the end of this year ;)

The Dubai of Baltic states. :) Seriously at first they built the biggest and best waterpark, now this. After few years there will be quite a few very attractive objects there. Btw, Grutas park with all those soviet sculptures is also located in Druskininkai.

They should hurry up with reconstructing the Airport, the connection between the further cities, maybe as far as from eastern Germany would be easier, = it would bring more tourists and = more jobs :)

Update form miestai.net.

http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=4071&d=1277549707

Good video!

Yeahh nice video and by the way nice city.
I was in Druskienniki last year on the way home from Aluta.
In this city is the best water park i've ever been so far.

Yeahh nice video and by the way nice city.
I was in Druskienniki last year on the way home from Aluta.
In this city is the best water park i've ever been so far.
Sorry for off topic, but you made me laughing.. :lol:
It should be Druskininkai and Alytus ;)
I understand that for foreigners these name are very hard, but for local's your variations is really funny :) :okay:

Sorry for off topic, but you made me laughing.. :lol:
It should be Druskininkai and Alytus ;)
I understand that for foreigners these name are very hard, but for local's your variations is really funny :) :okay:

Sorry, names of the lithuanian cities very often are hard to remember.
By the way Druskienniki before second world war were in Poland so version in Polish stained in the memory.

Let's turn this into a Lithuania vs. Poland thread about pre-WW2 history! Sounds like an excellent idea to me. Who's with me?

Me..me..ME!!! c'mon,pick me! If your going to have Lithuania vs. Poland flame war,then we (Estonians) can be Polish-Lithuanian peace negotiators,like we were before WW2. :D

Let's turn this into a Lithuania vs. Poland thread about pre-WW2 history! Sounds like an excellent idea to me. Who's with me?

Wilno forever Polish.

And Poland, forever ruled by Lithuanians.

And Poland, forever ruled by Lithuanians.
Good one.. :D And correct one..! ;)

Wodzu, prowadź na Kowno!!!

I see that I accidentally became a ringleader. It was not in my purpose.Tin can (sorry but as I know, Estonia During World War II was fighting against russia with germany as well as Latvia).
And so it was not that I am nationalists would say that I love the whole world:)
Ismat Chan You are talking just wright ( We already had Wilno and than we were going to have also Kowno-Kaunas). :)

I think big off-topic :]

Ok, I'll put some oil into the topic as well: Poland forever German, ja :D

Lithuanian culture = peasant culture, folklore :(
Polish culture = master culture of art and science :yes::applause:

Polish culture = master culture of art and science :yes::applause:

Nothing compared to German, ja :D

Nothing compared to German, ja :D

But I thought you guys were Skandinavians not Germans, Ja?
Tell us about your deep cultural connections with Sweden and Norway,

But I thought you guys were Skandinavians not Germans, Ja?
Tell us about your deep cultural connections with Sweden and Norway,

With each year they are becoming more and more deeper, ja :D

That have to be like 20 years of common culture now :okay: wish you luck on becoming vikings.

Wikinger sind gut, ja :D

You guys are breaking all the posts per day records of Lith' sub-forum.

Ok, I'll put some oil into the topic as well: Poland forever German, ja :D

Nah, it is not the same Germans anymore ;-) It is like 1000 years ago but reversed. Instead of them going east Poles are going west. If only we had better demographic then East Germany would be ours in a next few decades :tongue4:
Well, but it is already Turkish plan anyway :lol:

I just love those IKEA stores in Litauen. I would like also to add that I'm big fan of lithuanian speedway:cheers:

I just love those IKEA stores in Litauen. I would like also to add that I'm big fan of lithuanian speedway:cheers:

Last time I looked, the closest to Lithuania IKEA was in Warsaw :D
Maybe IKI ?

You guys are breaking all the posts per day records of Lith' sub-forum.
Believe me it's not difficult:)

I just luv those indoor skiing complexes in Poland, oh wait, u don't have any yet?, ah well, u might have one sometime after us :P

^^We have some real mountains though:yes:

I just luv those indoor skiing complexes in Poland, oh wait, u don't have any yet?, ah well, u might have one sometime after us :P
What you are talking about !?:lol:

^^ the message is simply that you don't have any indoor skiing slopes yet ;)

Sorry I missed word "indoor". But what for whom to build indoor ski slopes (I understand that it pays to build them in countries where the temperature in the mountains does not permit within a few months use of the slopes with snow).

Well, u can always be certain that you can always safely ski in the indoor ones with no worries- no things like availanches, storms, too heavy snowfalls, fear of getting lost in the mountains etc. to worry about

Well, u can always be certain that you can always safely ski in the indoor ones with no worries- no things like availanches, storms, too heavy snowfalls, fear of getting lost in the mountains etc. to worry about

Yes, but this is not why indoor skiing resorts are built. They are biuld because they can provide skiing facilities all year long, without any distractions, which is 4 times! longer then usual skiing resort. Moreover, nobody around provides such a services other then a winter time- that reduces competition a lot. Also when there is such a heat outside, many people would pay a lot just to get to the winter for few hours... and if you can ski there- what might be better. If planning a holidays in advance, there's no need to worry that there might be no snow when the holidays starts. There's lots of advantage, but as I said the main advantage is working all year long.

I think this is going to be a success. Locals will surely want to try it out (including myself :)) and, of course, there are tourists from Poland and Belarus. If there are no similar establishments withing a 100 or so km radius in Poland then I guess it's got a good future. I think Druskininkai is becoming by far the best SPA and recreational resort place in Lithuania or even the surrounding region.

I think this is going to be a success. Locals will surely want to try it out (including myself :)) and, of course, there are tourists from Poland and Belarus. If there are no similar establishments withing a 100 or so km radius in Poland then I guess it's got a good future. I think Druskininkai is becoming by far the best SPA and recreational resort place in Lithuania or even the surrounding region.

Surrounding region? You mean former Soviet Union, right? Well, i'm not an expert on ex-soviet countries, but AFAIK your brothers from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan have far better SPAs than those in former Литовская Советская Социалистическая Республика.

Surrounding region? You mean former Soviet Union, right? Well, i'm not an expert on ex-soviet countries, but AFAIK your brothers from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan have far better SPAs than those in former Литовская Советская Социалистическая Республика.

By surrounding region I mean the local region of 300km or so radius with Poland, of course, being one of the primary markets. After all we are true brothers which means you'll have to leave some more of your cash to us. ;)

After all we are true brothers

I'm not from Turkmenistan!:bash:

I'm not from Turkmenistan!:bash:

Polska, Turkmenistan... same thing :lol:

Not at all, tavarish.

We are your masters.
They are your brothers.:lol:

Surrounding region? You mean former Soviet Union, right? Well, i'm not an expert on ex-soviet countries, but AFAIK your brothers from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan have far better SPAs than those in former Литовская Советская Социалистическая Республика.

They also have presidents building themselves awesome golden statues. Come to think of it, they even sound like places Europeans would fall in love.

Not at all, tavarish.

Germans are our masters.
You are our brothers.:lol:

That's better ;)

Boring! Boring! You soviets are boring! That's supposed to be a flamewar? C'mon guys!:lol:

That's because of the Nordic influence ;)

War ended over 60 years ago, but clearly not for Poles. :| Germans are out to get them, Ukrainians stole Lvov, Lithuanians stole Vilnius (among other things), Russians screwed them over and Britain and France betrayed them.

Boring! Boring! You soviets are boring! That's supposed to be a flamewar? C'mon guys!:lol:

I'll say you a secret. We are distracting your attention here. Go to DLM. Somebody might be mocking Poland there. :D

JESUS!! It's almost like Miestai forum is under maintenance or most Lithuanian forumers have been banned from there :D

Anyway,trying to stay sane here...does anyone know about Royal Palace reconstruction in Vilnius? Is it finally finished or is it still U/C?

BTW,Lithuanians should focus on updating their development threads here on SSC more often,instead of fighting with everyone ;)

[Anyway,trying to sane here...does anyone know about Royal Palace reconstruction in Vilnius? Is it finally finished or is it still U/C?

Exterior is finished so you can come and see it, while some interior works (Most are done already) may be going slowly because of lack of money (Crisis you know :) ). There are not so much news about it though.

JESUS!! It's almost like Miestai forum is under maintenance or most Lithuanian forumers have been banned from there :D

Anyway,trying to sane here...does anyone know about Royal Palace reconstruction in Vilnius? Is it finally finished or is it still U/C?

BTW,Lithuanians should focus on updating their development threads here on SSC more often,instead of fighting with everyone ;)

You should have asked this in the main Vilnius project thread ;)

But no, the Royal palace is not finished and won't be in the nearest time. The exterior is more or less done but there is a substantial amount of work left to be done.

As about other projects... well, there aren't that many large projects it seems. However, hopefully we will start seeing updates on this (http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20090214/17069589361571012708.jpg) and these two (http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20090214/gjgfjgjdg.jpg).

JESUS!! It's almost like Miestai forum is under maintenance or most Lithuanian forumers have been banned from there :D

Trust me, a sudden influx of miestai.net members would not go unnoticed. That place is overrun with nerds (in the worst sense of that word) nowadays, you know, the type that wear socks with sandals. Kaunas especially excels here, just as it does everywhere... :D

@Index_LT - Thanks! And my budget is bit too stretched now for visiting Vilnius (crisis you know ;))

@Pansori - Thanks! ...what do mean by Vilnius projects thread? There is one here on SSC? :shifty:

@whatever... - But everybody knows that all the cool kids hang around in Skyscrapercity.com :smug:

@Pansori - Thanks! ...what do mean by Vilnius projects thread? There is one here on SSC? :shifty:


Try this one (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=436202) (just go to the last page for latest updates). ;)

Seriously,I'm talking about Vilnius thread and you are showing me some rural Poland. Where's that mega-super-cool Vilnius with best highrises,that we keep hearing about?




< got bribed by Poles XD

Boring! Boring! You soviets are boring! That's supposed to be a flamewar? C'mon guys!:lol:

Is it true that Poles in north-eastern voivodeships (where millions of them live without a single kilometre of motorway (or any other decent road)) get their parcels delivered by pigeons because there is no road access to them? Or do they drop those parcels from an airplane, like in a war zone?

If there was a union based on road adequacy, you would be in the same union with Cambodia and Nepal. You could call that union "Union of Countries where Roads are really Shit". At the same time you could be in a union with Romania. You could call that union "Union of dense countries that have 5 kilometres of EU-built motorways and who keep posting pictures from the same motorway over and over again".

But no, Poland isn't such a bad place. I love the liberal advertising market. I have just made an amulet from a dead cat's tooth, I am selling it for $3.00. I think I will advertise on the S8 in the outskirts of Warsaw. I will make a 5 square meter half-green, half-pink advert with orange letters (where font doesn't match in different words) and put it there, among millions of similar adverts.

Ismat Chan: How was that? :D Better?

I have just made an amulet from a dead cat's tooth, I am selling it for $3.00. I think I will advertise on the S8 in the outskirts of Warsaw.

Don't you think it's a better idea to establish a wulkanizacja shop rather than sell cat's tooth?

http://www.arbi.pl/_img/wulkanizacja/wulkanizacja_otwarta.jpg

Or maybe kantor
http://zajazdmorena.pl/eng/img/kantor.jpg

Ah.....kantor.....had a pleasure of visiting such establishment last year when we were fined (100 zloty) by goldigging Polish border patrol for erm driving with British number plates.

It shouldn't have been hard to find. According to latest estimates, there are more "Kantors" than people in Poland.

Yes, "Kantors" are behind the Polish economic miracle, the Poles just need to start spending the dosh on things that matter (motorways for example) instead of wasting them on silly enquiries (Are Teletubbies gay?).

Is it true that Poles in north-eastern voivodeships (where millions of them live without a single kilometre of motorway (or any other decent road)) get their parcels delivered by pigeons because there is no road access to them? Or do they drop those parcels from an airplane, like in a war zone?

If there was a union based on road adequacy, you would be in the same union with Cambodia and Nepal. You could call that union "Union of Countries where Roads are really Shit". At the same time you could be in a union with Romania. You could call that union "Union of dense countries that have 5 kilometres of EU-built motorways and who keep posting pictures from the same motorway over and over again".

But no, Poland isn't such a bad place. I love the liberal advertising market. I have just made an amulet from a dead cat's tooth, I am selling it for $3.00. I think I will advertise on the S8 in the outskirts of Warsaw. I will make a 5 square meter half-green, half-pink advert with orange letters (where font doesn't match in different words) and put it there, among millions of similar adverts.
:lol:You're describing Lithuania, of course. You guys better quit calling your soviet roads "highways", please.:lol: And start building decent european style roads now!
I would like to inform you that I'm big fan of Vilnius' subway and tramways:yes: AFAIK your super-mega-cool sophisticated megapolis together with super-mega-cool Chisinau is the only european capital with both subway and trams. That's really impressive!:lol:
I have to say that I understand ur frustration and anger. Ur country has been in deep shit for a couple of years. This year ur "economy" is going to contract once again:ohno: I really pity you. But please, dear brave Homo Sovieticus, don't give up! Everything will be all right! Maybe in, let's say 7-8 years ur "economy" will catch up with the ones of Estonia, Croatia, Hungary and Poland.
I'd like also to add that I'm not some lithuanophobe or sth. Au contraire, I really like you guys. You're one of my favourite ex-soviet nations. Sure, you're not as nice as Tajiks and Kazakhs, but defenitely much nicer than Chechens and people from Dagestan:cheers:
Ciao!

:lol:You're describing Lithuania, of course. You guys better quit calling your soviet roads "highways", please.:lol: And start building decent european style roads now!
I would like to inform you that I'm big fan of Vilnius' subway and tramways:yes: AFAIK your super-mega-cool sophisticated megapolis together with super-mega-cool Chisinau is the only european capital with both subway and trams. That's really impressive!:lol:
I have to say that I understand ur frustration and anger. Ur country has been in deep shit for a couple of years. This year ur "economy" is going to contract once again:ohno: I really pity you. But please, dear brave Homo Sovieticus, don't give up! Everything will be all right! Maybe in, let's say 7-8 years ur "economy" will catch up with the ones of Estonia, Croatia, Hungary and Poland.
I'd like also to add that I'm not some lithuanophobe or sth. Au contraire, I really like you guys. You're one of my favourite ex-soviet nations. Sure, you're not as nice as Tajiks and Kazakhs, but defenitely much nicer than Chechens and people from Dagestan:cheers:
Ciao!

Neither I am a Polophobe. I love Poland and I buy Polish beer quite often (what else could better define my appreciation of Poland ;)). However, for your information, roads in Poland are something like 20 years behind Lithuania. If you call those 70km/h repaved roads "European style" where you have to constantly race with your life against heavy trucks and sick drivers, then I feel sorry. Thank god we can go to Germany via sea ferry. :D

Anyway, this is getting really offtopic. Bring your Polish a** to Druskinieki and leave your Zloty for us, please. :yes:

But at least we have some real highways :yes:

Perhaps this is not the right place for this sort of question and I think it would be best for me to take it to Kantor, but still - Ive heard that Polish water makes one angry and borderline xenophobe/racist. Is it true?

But at least we have some real highways :yes:
Not only that. Besides the 20km of the toll highway that you have you also have those "Wulkanyzacja" establishments about every 5 meters. This is the true indicator of prosperity and advancement: how many old tyres you are capable of wulcanize!... I bet they are exporting those wulkanized tyres to Litwa where they cannot afford to buy new ones :D

:lol:You're describing Lithuania, of course. You guys better quit calling your soviet roads "highways", please.:lol: And start building decent european style roads now!
I would like to inform you that I'm big fan of Vilnius' subway and tramways:yes: AFAIK your super-mega-cool sophisticated megapolis together with super-mega-cool Chisinau is the only european capital with both subway and trams. That's really impressive!:lol:
I have to say that I understand ur frustration and anger. Ur country has been in deep shit for a couple of years. This year ur "economy" is going to contract once again:ohno: I really pity you. But please, dear brave Homo Sovieticus, don't give up! Everything will be all right! Maybe in, let's say 7-8 years ur "economy" will catch up with the ones of Estonia, Croatia, Hungary and Poland.
I'd like also to add that I'm not some lithuanophobe or sth. Au contraire, I really like you guys. You're one of my favourite ex-soviet nations. Sure, you're not as nice as Tajiks and Kazakhs, but defenitely much nicer than Chechens and people from Dagestan:cheers:
Ciao!

Too bad local Poles can't afford to use those few kilometres (you are a 40 million nation for God's sake!) EU-built motorways as they are too expensive for them. Those motorways are built by Europeans so that Europeans could bypass Polish villages without encountering 3 lines of Polish trucks coming towards them in a two lane road like you get near Suwalki, Augustaw and other towns.

Oh, and well done on doing so well during the crisis. While we were rearranging our economy to a hi-tech one and getting high transitional unemployment and temporary large drop in GDP, you were employing people in industries that export apples and beetroots due to flexible exchange rate of the zloty. That's the plan! Poland - the future beetroot capital of the world! We'll settle with the humble title of a hi-tech nation. Our internet infrastructure is already 20 years ahead of yours. Good luck in writing your reply on your 56k modem.

Too bad local Poles can't afford to use those few kilometres (you are a 40 million nation for God's sake!) EU-built motorways as they are too expensive for them. Those motorways are built by Europeans so that Europeans could bypass Polish villages without encountering 3 lines of Polish trucks coming towards them in a two lane road like you get near Suwalki, Augustaw and other towns.

Oh, and well done on doing so well during the crisis. While we were rearranging our economy to a hi-tech one and getting high transitional unemployment and temporary large drop in GDP, you were employing people in industries that export apples and beetroots due to flexible exchange rate of the zloty. That's the plan! Poland - the future beetroot capital of the world! We'll settle with the humble title of a hi-tech nation. Our internet infrastructure is already 20 years ahead of yours. Good luck in writing your reply on your 56k modem.

So much hatred.. you put us from Balkans to shame..

To be honest, this whole Poland-bashing started off as a joke and now it turned into a real flame war. I wrote those harsh things with a smile on my face just to piss the Poles off, thinking that it is still a joke, but now that I read it I realise that it does sound very harsh and most people are taking it seriously :D

If I said that I hate Poland I would be lying. Poland and Lithuania both suck equally to me and I really don't differentiate between the two much. If you read my comments in Lithuanian forums, you'd see that there are far harsher things that I say about Lithuania. In fact, there are dozens and dozens of things that I hate about Lithuania, many of which Poland doesn't have.

These flame wars aren't funny to me any more, and I am not going to pretend that I am a very angry person who cares about these issues a lot, because I simply don't. I was only writing all that stuff to piss the Poles off, just like I do with the Estonians sometimes.

That's ok, bleetz. When lithuanian starts to simulate british humour - it happens. But you will learn. The most important - keep it up, keep practising :tongue2: :D

Which part of what I said reminded you of British humour? :D

Thanks though, I love British humour :)

Which part of what I said reminded you of British humour? :D


It's about white people :dunno:

I was only writing all that stuff to piss the Poles off, just like I do with the Estonians sometimes.

What's the point of pissing off someone?

It's fine to learn something new about Druskininkai in this thread.

сорри за оффтоп)) прошу вас проголосовать : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=60991523#post60991523

^^ Why did you post that same message in 3 different threads? :weird:

Snoras Snow Arena Update

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http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=4254&d=1287040548

I have created a thread dedicated to this arena -> "LITHUANIA - Snoras Snow Arena" (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=65337941#post65337941)

Snoras Snow Arena Update

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(C) Justas Matulevičius, miestai.net/forumas
http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=4253&d=1287040548

http://www.miestai.net/forumas/attachment.php?attachmentid=4254&d=1287040548


nice.....:)

Hi all.
Is there any chance this resort will be open/partialy open in the beginning of January 2011?
What about other places in LT to do some mountain skiing? Are there any hills for the amateurs like me? :)

Unfortunately, the indoor skiing arena is only opening in spring, 2011. But there is a few outdoor skiing slopes, like in Vilnius or Ignalina ;)

Six pages of Polish-Lithuanian bashing... who would have thought the tiny town could spur such a heated debate :lol:

And by the way, as far as Druskienniki/Druskininkai is concerned, did they manage to set up this statue of Pilsudski (the place being one of his favourite retreats). There was so much controversy surrounding the idea. Many thanks if somebody can give an update on this.

The day they put a Pilsudski statue in Lithuania is the first day of WW3 :laugh:

Six pages of Polish-Lithuanian bashing


Poland vs. Lithuania? Lithuania wins.

The day they put a Pilsudski statue in Lithuania is the first day of WW3 :laugh:

I didn't make this up, that was an idea of the mayor of the town, you might have heard about this. Hold on, wasn't his name Malinowski? Meaning Malinauskas of course :nuts:

You can transform eight out of ten most popular Lithuanian surnames this way, so it doesn't really say much. His surname is officially Malinauskas, not Malinowski though. And everybody hates Pilsudski in Lithuania, so the fact that Mr. Malinowski (if that's the spelling that you prefer) had a temporary brain dysfunction (never heard of this anyway) doesn't really mean much in the real world.

Poland vs. Lithuania? Lithuania wins.

In this thread or in reality? In reality, Russians would be in Vilnius in 6 hours (from Belarus), and in Kaunas in one day (from Kaliningrad Oblast), in order to "protect the population"; Poles would seize some towns just across the border, maybe reaching the old border of Kongresowka. Within 3 days, independent Lithuania is no more. :nuts:

You can transform eight out of ten most popular Lithuanian surnames this way, so it doesn't really say much. His surname is officially Malinauskas, not Malinowski though. And everybody hates Pilsudski in Lithuania, so the fact that Mr. Malinowski (if that's the spelling that you prefer) had a temporary brain dysfunction (never heard of this anyway) doesn't really mean much in the real world.

You are not going to get me embroiled in this Polish-Lithuanian thing, I just wanted to inquire about the statue. I heard about the idea, but there was no news on this since some time. Perhaps they abondoned the project altogether, but again there was no confirmation.

Well, I have no intentions of getting into any silly arguments either. What I am trying to say is that (rightly or wrongly) Pilsudski is not seen as a national hero in Lithuania. To give you an idea, imagine I said that I heard somewhere that Warsaw is considering building a monument to Stalin. What would you think? You would think that I am insane. Nobody was planning to build a monument to Pilsudski anywhere in Lithuania ever. I can guarantee you that.

Yes there was an idea to build a monument (not a proper statue) to Pilsudski in a newly reconstructed park in Druskininkai. The arguments expressed by the Mayor seem logical to me. After all, Druskininkai is frequented by tourists from Poland which could make it an even more popular place among Polish visitors. The latest media articles are dated August 2010 and there hasn't been anything since then. The idea by the mayor was to build a plaque or memorial near a house where Pilsudski used to stay. According to the mayor Malinauskas he was going to submit an application to the city council but like I said there hasn't been any news about the status of it. It is a brave and nice idea but I guess it would get stuck because of the image Pilsudski has/had in Lithuania.

Yes there was an idea to build a monument (not a proper statue) to Pilsudski in a newly reconstructed park in Druskininkai. The arguments expressed by the Mayor seem logical to me. After all, Druskininkai is frequented by tourists from Poland which could make it an even more popular place among Polish visitors. The latest media articles are dated August 2010 and there hasn't been anything since then. The idea by the mayor was to build a plaque or memorial near a house where Pilsudski used to stay. According to the mayor Malinauskas he was going to submit an application to the city council but like I said there hasn't been any news about the status of it. It is a brave and nice idea but I guess it would get stuck because of the image Pilsudski has/had in Lithuania.

Many thanks for the information

They were going to put a stone there on which they were going to say that Pilsudski used to live there and come there. Kind of similar to the little plate on the town hall building that says that Bush was there and said his speech. Malinauskas himself emphasised in his proposal that "this is definitely not to be confused with a monument". Even this idea of a simple, neutral stone got very negative reactions. Would I be against such stone? Definitely not, I couldn't care less. If it attracts Polish tourists then fine, go ahead. Will it ever be put in place? I don't think so. Would I be against a monument to Pilsudski? If it attracts tourists then fine, go ahead. Will it ever be built or will anyone ever even consider it? Not in a thousand years. Pilsudski's image in Lithuania is far too negative and he is usually portrayed in a negative light.

In this thread or in reality? In reality, Russians would be in Vilnius in 6 hours (from Belarus), and in Kaunas in one day (from Kaliningrad Oblast), in order to "protect the population"; Poles would seize some towns just across the border, maybe reaching the old border of Kongresowka. Within 3 days, independent Lithuania is no more. :nuts:


No, im not talking about in reality I just mean that lithuania is best compared to other european countrys to me. but you made me wonder, why does Lithuania not have a large military force? We could be like North Korea and actualy make some money selling weapons like that usa.

Wtf :laugh:

In this thread or in reality? In reality, Russians would be in Vilnius in 6 hours (from Belarus), and in Kaunas in one day (from Kaliningrad Oblast), in order to "protect the population"; Poles would seize some towns just across the border, maybe reaching the old border of Kongresowka. Within 3 days, independent Lithuania is no more. :nuts:

Ever heard of this thingie called NATO or their latest defence plans for the Baltic states?

It's sad that Lithuanians hate Josefas Pilsudskas :(

You mean Juozas Pilsudskis? :D

Will it ever be built or will anyone ever even consider it? Not in a thousand years.

You could build this statue, then write some funny things on it, and then we would have some new great topic to bash about ;) I see it already in some Polish newspapers 2012.XX.XX:

Lithuanians Profaned Józef Piłsudzki statue in Druskienniki!
On 2012.XX.XX-1 in well know town of Druskienniki unknown hooligans profaned statue of our Great National Hero... bla bla
President of Poland and all the others stated deep outrage.. bla bla

In the meantime Lithuanian newspapers:
Unknown man painted statue of some Polish historic person Juozas Pilsudskis in little town of Druskininkai:
Foreign minister of Lithuania stated mild outrage... bla bla
President of Lithuania distanced herself from the event, but at the same time she was understanding toward feelings of people who painted the statue which is not a big deal anyway...bla, bla
Leader of the far right opposition party stated that brave young people figthing for honor of Lithuania should get some award for that.. ups, did he say young people?! Oh now, he didn't know anything about if they were young or old...bla bla

Imagine what a thread it could be :lol:

You could build this statue, then write some funny things on it, and then we would have some new great topic to bash about ;) I see it already in some Polish newspapers 2012.XX.XX:


In the meantime Lithuanian newspapers:


Imagine what a thread it could be :lol:


If someone screwes up the statue then I would give them a medal for protecting Lithuanian culture.

That's right! :laugh:

If someone screwes up the statue then I would give them a medal for protecting Lithuanian culture.

Да и вот настоящий защитник литовских национальных эмблем с серпом и молотом в аватаре :hammer:

I think that most Lithuanians would prefer Pilsudski over this guy :laugh:

Да и вот настоящий защитник литовских национальных эмблем с серпом и молотом в аватаре :hammer:

:wtf:

Yeah, I will defend the fatherland of Lithuania against some "poland" lol, even though I like the U.S.S.R and Communism, But the USSR is unbeatable. :P

:laugh:

Interesting Latvian article about the snow arena, I found today (google translate, helped me to understand, what they were talking about :okay:

Druskininkai Ski Resort! (http://www.chas.lv/win/2011/02/11/g_031.html?r=32)


Lithuanian Druskininkai, famous since the Soviet times for its mineral waters and muds, is undergoing a rebirth.

Sergei KNIAZEV

Now residents of the neighboring Latvia will be able to come back not only on treatment but also for sports entertainment in April will be put into operation a complex of winter entertainment Snoras Snow arena, where year-round skiers and snowboarders can enjoy their favorite hobby.

In the world today there are only about fifty ski resorts where skiing is possible year round. But coming to Latvia under Moscow and in Germany, and Lithuania will be, firstly, to enter the top five similar complexes, and secondly, will become for us a neighbor. Until located in southern Lithuania Druskininkai can be reached in four hours by car, but you can use the aircraft, flying from Riga to Vilnius or Kaunas.

During the construction had been adopted to best practices from other countries, taking into account all past mistakes and use the latest technology. As a result, an area of 8 hectares, surrounded by pine trees (by the way, within a radius of 70 km there is no industrial facility) Snoras Snow arena will provide the most demanding gourmets in the field of entertainment whatever they wish. At the same time under one roof, at least in the winter, even in the summer 1000, visitors can indulge in all kinds of winter fun: skiing, sledding, snowboarding, children may simply frolic in the snow, and in the future to skate, play hockey, and in a moment of respite, guests can enjoy a massage and fragrant tea in the evening have fun in the snow restaurant. In addition to the closed year-round route will operate and open ski run, headquartered in the natural landscape. A year-round snowboard park will be constructed of the best European firm for the construction of snow parks, forming the same park at the famous ski resorts.

And it's not all. The closed zone snowy arena interior is designed so that it appears that rises in the street mountain town somewhere in Austria, with which you get on this hill. Almost indistinguishable from the real snow, which will produce the latest German cars, will only strengthen the sense of reality. Finally, the entertainment center will operate five lifts: four-, and three rope belt, so that visitors to the complex will not have to stand in queues. It is expected that within a year he was visited by nearly 400,000 visitors.

It is obvious that building such a grandiose project, the total value of which over 28 million euros have been impossible to attract private investment. But Druskininkai municipality failed to attract significant amounts of EU funds. Mayor of Druskininkai Ricardas Malinauskas, thinking visionary, no doubt that the decision to build complex, offers winter fun all year round, was right: "The ability to combine both winter and summer fun will increase the attractiveness and competitiveness of tourism is not only the spa town of Druskininkai, but the whole of Lithuania .

In Snoras Snow arena built three routes for beginners and professionals.

All-weather track: width 50 m length over 460 m;

Trail for beginners: the width of 70 m length over 150 m.

Seasonal trail: width 40 m length over 640 m.

The total length of the tracks over 1100 m.

Difference in height of 66 m, descent to 25 percent.

All-weather track and trail for beginners run continuously, the seasonal route - when the air temperature to + 5 degrees.

More information and ticket booking site www.snowarena.lt .

:okay:

Snoras Snow Arena Update:

http://www.druskininkai.lt/image.php?Image=snow_arena_copy.jpg

(C) Bootsy, miestai.net/forumas:
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Very Nice

It's due to open in 32 days, do you think they'll make it? :)

Snoras Snow Arena 2011 03 16

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Video, from recently opened Snoras Snow Arena

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