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View Full Version : ARCHIVED: Eureka Tower - v2 tayser December 9th, 2003, 11:32 AM ARCHIVE #1 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56486) [threadid = 56486] CULWULLA December 9th, 2003, 11:44 AM adamonline quote-[So in other words, if levels 15/16 were exposed on the core at this time last year, you are predicting that at this current rate, that the core will top out late next year? By rights it should do, as I imagine that less concrete needs to be poured as the building rises, and less mass is needed for structural support. Does anybody have an idea of approximately when the core and floors will level out respectively?] I could ask Grocon when they think Eureka will top out? uewepuep December 9th, 2003, 12:02 PM oh cut it out with the archiving. Grollo December 9th, 2003, 12:57 PM The fllorplates are around 20 levels behind the core so they should top out around 20 weeks after the core tops out or around the start of May 2005. kasperluke December 9th, 2003, 01:25 PM 500 posts already!?? Let's see who the culprits are... Total Posts: 553 User Posts CULWULLA 70 A-brain 57 lozza 41 tayser 37 ciaobellaxo 24 SydneyDude 16 Grollo 16 joed 16 Richo 15 Adamonline 13 Kushantaiidan 12 Dean 12 Fabian 11 flyin_higher 11 silvermb 11 Blabbyboy 10 Philip Burt 9 uewepuep 9 jag 9 chrisaus 9 invincible 8 derf 8 zion 7 kasperluke 7 Bluestar 7 Curtain 5 larven 5 Lil' Flip 5 pikey 5 Trances 5 BigVman 5 mgpenguin 4 maybach 4 mindsample 4 skiesthelimit 4 fishcatdogbird 4 Collin 4 Aussie Steve 4 bearbrass 3 Adam from Oz 3 Steve World Tower 3 MG2 2 SteveMelb 2 pisstake 2 barneybuck 2 Muse 2 spazpecker 2 Billy the Kid 2 yob 2 duke 2 dc 2 finn 2 AG 2 Windstorm 2 Lord Melbourne 2 melbman 2 AtD 1 MelbourneCity 1 zztopless 1 sav 1 Duff 1 DrDan 1 lenicrombie 1 JayT 1 Adamonlineau 1 rondeez 1 falchoon 1 BTW: Great pics in the other Thread a-brain...every time there is a core rise I always look foward to see your pictures from city road....I should have collated them....oh well! keep up the great work! pisstake December 10th, 2003, 04:47 AM I know as of around June/July this year the settlement for the Riverrise section of the building was to be in July 2004 with occupancy in August 2004. When talking to one of the vendors contracted to fit out some of the appartments they said that they believed it would be more like November/December '04 which sounded more likely to me. The thing is if its not going to top out until the end of next year with the floors to follow about 20 weeks later, I fail to see is how the lower floors will have their certificate of residence approved when the building isn't even finished. I could see that it would be fine once the exterior & structure was finished so that only interior constuction needed to be completed on the upper levels but how can you move any occupants in to a construction site? Once the final setback occurs, I can imagine that the core will rise much quicker, I wouldn't be suprised if from the start of construction in January that the core's final 38 odd floors will be done by Sept/Oct. bearbrass December 10th, 2003, 05:06 AM Well there are hundreds of people walking around the shopping area at QV and its a construction site as well. Maybe the rules are a lot easier now. CULWULLA December 10th, 2003, 06:47 AM Originally posted by kasperluke 500 posts already!?? Let's see who the culprits are... Total Posts: 553 User Posts CULWULLA 70 A-brain 57 lozza 41 tayser 37 ciaobellaxo 24 SydneyDude 16 Grollo 16 joed 16 Richo 15 Adamonline 13 Kushantaiidan 12 Dean 12 Fabian 11 flyin_higher 11 silvermb 11 Blabbyboy 10 Philip Burt 9 uewepuep 9 jag 9 chrisaus 9 invincible 8 derf 8 zion 7 kasperluke 7 Bluestar 7 Curtain 5 larven 5 Lil' Flip 5 pikey 5 Trances 5 BigVman 5 mgpenguin 4 maybach 4 mindsample 4 skiesthelimit 4 fishcatdogbird 4 Collin 4 Aussie Steve 4 bearbrass 3 Adam from Oz 3 Steve World Tower 3 MG2 2 SteveMelb 2 pisstake 2 barneybuck 2 Muse 2 spazpecker 2 Billy the Kid 2 yob 2 duke 2 dc 2 finn 2 AG 2 Windstorm 2 Lord Melbourne 2 melbman 2 AtD 1 MelbourneCity 1 zztopless 1 sav 1 Duff 1 DrDan 1 lenicrombie 1 JayT 1 Adamonlineau 1 rondeez 1 falchoon 1 BTW: Great pics in the other Thread a-brain...every time there is a core rise I always look foward to see your pictures from city road....I should have collated them....oh well! keep up the great work! 70 are you sure? lol how can that be? but im a sydneyite?:D tayser December 10th, 2003, 06:53 AM you're just too excited Cul ;) A-brain December 10th, 2003, 07:35 AM Why yet another thread?? Oh well nice to see I'm in 2nd place being the C-man .. 'Wot.. Obsessive.. Me?' :baaa: Grollo December 10th, 2003, 11:24 AM Originally posted by pisstake I know as of around June/July this year the settlement for the Riverrise section of the building was to be in July 2004 with occupancy in August 2004. When talking to one of the vendors contracted to fit out some of the appartments they said that they believed it would be more like November/December '04 which sounded more likely to me. The thing is if its not going to top out until the end of next year with the floors to follow about 20 weeks later, I fail to see is how the lower floors will have their certificate of residence approved when the building isn't even finished. I could see that it would be fine once the exterior & structure was finished so that only interior constuction needed to be completed on the upper levels but how can you move any occupants in to a construction site? The lower office floors of the rialto began to be occupied 4 months before the tower was topped out. ciaobellaxo December 10th, 2003, 12:32 PM Originally posted by CULWULLA 70 are you sure? lol how can that be? but im a sydneyite?:D Hey I'm impressed. I'm in the top 5 and next after Tays :D pisstake - I hope you're right and the core does rise quicker after the next setback. ciaobellaxo December 13th, 2003, 12:01 AM Looks like the LSS webcam is having problems. Just getting a blue square at the moment. Anyone else getting the same? A-brain December 13th, 2003, 06:30 AM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo Looks like the LSS webcam is having problems. Just getting a blue square at the moment. Anyone else getting the same? I was getting that too.. but late Saturday arvo its working again.. And *GUESS WHAT* - it looks like we have ourselves a Crane Rise late Saturday arvo... http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/webcaml2.jpg .. So all is in readiness for one more Pour/Rise this week before Shutdown !!! Expect pour on Wednesday and Rise on the final working day Saturday ... maybach December 13th, 2003, 07:07 AM Gee A-brain you must be sitting out in front of Eureka all day with a Boost Juice in one hand and a ciggy in the other waiting for something to happen!!!!!! LOL!!!! But yeah I noticed the crane rise (just came home)!! Woohoo!!! :guns1: Philip Burt December 13th, 2003, 07:33 AM I went down to Eureka this arvo (just before the crane rise I think). The "boxy thingo" is starting to take shape. Hope I haven't put too many photos up! http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0594.JPG http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0595.JPG http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0596.JPG http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0597.JPG http://hyperhealth.customer.netspace.net.au/IMGP0607.JPG ciaobellaxo December 13th, 2003, 08:32 AM Originally posted by Philip Burt I went down to Eureka this arvo (just before the crane rise I think). The "boxy thingo" is starting to take shape. Hope I haven't put too many photos up! Awesome pics PB!! And no you could NEVER put too many pics of the big E up at once ;) BTW, what is the 'boxy thingo' that you were referring to:? Philip Burt December 13th, 2003, 08:43 AM Ciaobellaxo, it's the metal framed attachment to approx. levels 11 - 14 on the left side of the first few photos. From memory, the renderings show it as something that is purely for decoration in a post-modern kinda way. I know that one of the resident experts on this forum will know more about it than I. Phil CULWULLA December 13th, 2003, 12:25 PM Originally posted by A-brain I was getting that too.. but late Saturday arvo its working again.. And *GUESS WHAT* - it looks like we have ourselves a Crane Rise late Saturday arvo... http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/webcaml2.jpg .. So all is in readiness for one more Pour/Rise this week before Shutdown !!! Expect pour on Wednesday and Rise on the final working day Saturday ... yeah looks like my grocon guy was right for once. he said there would be another rise before xmas break! 50 levels+! top pix phillip burt.! that attachment on front of Eureka is kinda weird. i remember putting it on my models i made. Its definatley decorative. Grollo December 13th, 2003, 12:47 PM Here is a rendering of 'the box': http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/02/9.jpg I think that Eureka is looking better than the renderings, the colours and materials that are going up are all top notch. Philip Burt December 13th, 2003, 03:51 PM Thanks Grollo for posting the renderings of "The Box". Do you guys reckon that the next next non-core/floor rise noteworthy thang that Eureka might unleash on us unexpectedly might be the "Porta-Loo"/"Construction Worker Huts"/"Dog Boxes" - directly to the rear of "The Box" as per Grollos's last post? Then again - A-Brain sometimes shows us unexpected ground floor events from the South side of Eureka - such as the Car Park extension. God, I mean Buddha, I should getta new life (or start studying psychology) if I'm analysing Eureka to this degree. Phil A-brain December 14th, 2003, 12:38 AM Originally posted by maybach Gee A-brain you must be sitting out in front of Eureka all day with a Boost Juice in one hand and a ciggy in the other waiting for something to happen!!!!!! LOL!!!! But yeah I noticed the crane rise (just came home)!! Woohoo!!! :guns1: :rofl: ROFLMAO !!! Haha yeah mate not far from the truth .. Actually I'm in Sydneyfor work do but just noticed whilst doing daily emails.. the LSS Webcam is bloody great for checkups now! But yeah.. sounds like a dream job.. tayser December 14th, 2003, 06:55 AM Argh A-brain - wish I had havew known you were in Sydney (just got back today) :( also: CAN WE PLEASE NOT LEAVE IMAGES IN A POST WHEN YOU SELECT QUOTE (1 or 2 images is fine, but NOT a whole series) thank you. pisstake December 14th, 2003, 07:43 AM Was just looking through the renders on the Eureka site and came across this one. I know the whole spire argument is a bit of a moot point but if they did add one to make the 'tallest res' 100% official, do you think something like this would work? http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/02/4.jpg http://www.itiqplus.com.au/stuarts/ozscrapers/spire.jpg tayser December 14th, 2003, 08:00 AM that would be taking the piss (:D) too much - no thank you, doesn't need a spire, it's a wholesome building whose crown doesn't need altering whatsoever.... :rofl: ;) Bluestar December 14th, 2003, 09:45 AM Agreed Tayser, that would be sacrelige; Eureka is a complete sculptural entity and requires nothing more. Blue CULWULLA December 14th, 2003, 10:20 AM @pisstake- lol, well the height limit is exactly RL300m in Southbank and Eureka reaches this so they cant put anything on top BUT i was talking to the people that are building Sydney towers SKYWALK and they indicated Eureka will get a ride if some type which will definatey extend its height by 3-5m, thus totalling 300-302m high. we will have to see in 2005-6ish? A-brain December 14th, 2003, 02:56 PM Yeah re: the spire, sorry but to quote Cypress Hill - 'We ain't goin like dat' .. I'm even skeptical about this rumored rooftop ride thingy spoiling the clean lines at the top, but if it did nudge E past either the 300m or 1000ft mark then I'd take it ;) tays - yeah didn't realise !! Don't worry i had like *no* spare time anyway to catch up really.. I even just made my flight with like 1 min to spare .. Having just got back from $ydney let me re-iterate a famous quote by a notorious forumer.. "Melbourne is tall & Sydney is dense" Collin December 14th, 2003, 11:42 PM Noticed from apartment that the pumping arm was visible above the corebox this morning 8am. Couldn't tell if it was pumping though. lozza December 15th, 2003, 03:16 AM gday i love the box out the front of the north side of the building It looks cool & will surely stand out once rendered !! :banana: cheers lozza :dooby: silvermb December 15th, 2003, 06:30 AM the more floors, the thinner eureka's appearance. i generally dont pay too much attention to eureka, but its starting to get interesting again with something different to look at now (box wise) http://home.iprimus.com.au/revlis81/e4.JPG ciaobellaxo December 15th, 2003, 07:34 AM There's going to be alot of sore knecks amongst us when the big E is into the 70's if we haven't already got them :D Dean December 15th, 2003, 08:11 AM it just doesnt look too classy yet as the glass is still filthy, but it's amazig to think that there is still 140m, or so, of this thing to go. but one thing is for certain: in bright sunshine, the facade will look a beautiful electric blue and make it look more like an office tower in my opinion. ie. 'very Rialtoish' Cheers Dean - Melbourne ciaobellaxo December 15th, 2003, 08:21 AM Still think the white stripes make it look a tad tacky - nevermind. Curtain December 15th, 2003, 01:17 PM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo Still think the white stripes make it look a tad tacky - nevermind. Imagine it without the panels. Another glass facade (albeit an interesting one), an apartment block posing as a corporate building. I think the aluminium panels give it some individuality and good contrast with the dark glass they've used, as well as some horizontal emphasis for a tall sleek design. It's also going to emphasise the interesting way the facade works in the top 3rd of the building. If you thought Rialto was interesting in certain lights, Eureka is going to extend that a bit with contrasting reflections from its angular shape and that chameleon-like dark glass. It's almost black and electric blue in one. Dean December 15th, 2003, 01:31 PM ^^yeah... in direct sunlight the glass looks almost copper sulphate blue, while on dark days its almost black... add that with the gold beacon on top, it will have stunning contrasts, both day and night. Cheers Dean - Melbourne MILIUX December 15th, 2003, 01:57 PM That's like World Tower's Latern. pixaus December 15th, 2003, 10:52 PM i love the facade, the white lines are going to make it look like the worlds BIGGEST 80's retro style graphic equaliser!! :dance: maybach December 16th, 2003, 05:47 AM Originally posted by Matixvolta That's like World Tower's Latern. OMG You're right! Shall we shoot the same Melbourne architects who designed World Tower? :D tayser December 16th, 2003, 05:58 AM ^^ :rofl: BigVman December 17th, 2003, 04:25 AM Was it my imagination or did I catch a glimpse of some morning glory as I drove down city road? Any updates appreciated. :) Adamonline December 17th, 2003, 09:17 AM Message cancelled, membership voluntarily withdrawn. Adamonline December 17th, 2003, 09:34 AM Message cancelled, membership voluntarily withdrawn. CULWULLA December 17th, 2003, 12:14 PM last week i decided to send my colour drawing of "Australias tallest bldgs 2005" to the Grocon guy i know and he rang me today to inform me it went down a treat! The day he recieved it , Grocon and some other suits had a big meeting about Eureka's progress and they made many copies of diagram and was handed out to every one! They finally saw a drawing which showed just how big E will be compared to Sydney Tower and Q1 , Rialto plus all the other tallest in OZ.Apparently Daniel G loved it!lol he said everyone had a beer in one hand and diagram in the other! I told grocon my next diagram will just be Australia;'s tallest res towers which will make Eureka stand out even more and then World s tallest which it still stands impressive! :) CaptainJackSparrow December 17th, 2003, 12:34 PM Sami is a bright girl! I like her! Free lifetime supply of bananas when she comes to QLD on holidays!:) Though she's from Queensland isn't she, anyway good to see her spreading the good word!:) http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/today/images/sami_165x120.jpg Eureka is OWNED by Q1 :tiasd: Queenslander!!!!:banana: "In the stick we trust" :banana: :banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana: Blabbyboy December 18th, 2003, 01:46 AM Originally posted by Adamonline Hmmm! (Indignately) Yes . . . Channel 9, (The self proclaimed ONE, yet channel 10 seems to often be on in my house) this morning on the 'TODAY' show had young Sam Lucas on yet another of her many trips to Queensland proclaiming Q1 as "the tallest apartment building in the country". Well, I'd like to see all of the tourists riding on top of the 'STICK' to get the highest vantage point on the country. Oh well, I guess that Ms Lucas could bust a lung and force herself to travel to Melbourne. Oh well, she is a blonde after all and would have to raise her intellect before we'd let her into Melbourne. Ah, we miss you, old boy. :D And yes, I agree the skyline view from the north is brilliant and doesn't show the same gaps as the view from the east. Blabbyboy December 18th, 2003, 01:46 AM Originally posted by CULWULLA last week i decided to send my colour drawing of "Australias tallest bldgs 2005" to the Grocon guy i know and he rang me today to inform me it went down a treat! The day he recieved it , Grocon and some other suits had a big meeting about Eureka's progress and they made many copies of diagram and was handed out to every one! They finally saw a drawing which showed just how big E will be compared to Sydney Tower and Q1 , Rialto plus all the other tallest in OZ.Apparently Daniel G loved it!lol he said everyone had a beer in one hand and diagram in the other! I told grocon my next diagram will just be Australia;'s tallest res towers which will make Eureka stand out even more and then World s tallest which it still stands impressive! :) I reckon you should just pick up the phone, call Daniel Grollo and get yourself an invite to one of those "beer in one hand, diagram in the other" gigs! Surely there's gotta be room at one of their Christmas parties for Australia's premier skyscraper statistician/modeller? (I'll be your date if you get an invite)! :D ciaobellaxo December 18th, 2003, 02:02 AM Originally posted by CaptainJackSparrow Sami is a bright girl! I like her! Free lifetime supply of bananas when she comes to QLD on holidays!:) Though she's from Queensland isn't she, anyway good to see her spreading the good word!:) http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/today/images/sami_165x120.jpg Eureka is OWNED by Q1 :tiasd: Queenslander!!!!:banana: "In the stick we trust" :banana: :banana::banana::banana: :banana::banana: Actually, that pic showing the comparison between the *cough* Q1 and the big E is a really good assessment. Maybe we should nickname the Q1 'The Syringe' :D Having a stick on top doesn't really make it a genuine contender for the title! CULWULLA December 18th, 2003, 02:07 AM Originally posted by Blabbyboy I reckon you should just pick up the phone, call Daniel Grollo and get yourself an invite to one of those "beer in one hand, diagram in the other" gigs! Surely there's gotta be room at one of their Christmas parties for Australia's premier skyscraper statistician/modeller? (I'll be your date if you get an invite)! :D LOL. but me Grocon contact said when im down in melbourne next year he will get me up the top for photos if i want. i said ill think about it! lol:D A-brain December 18th, 2003, 05:16 AM Originally posted by CULWULLA LOL. but me Grocon contact said when im down in melbourne next year he will get me up the top for photos if i want. i said ill think about it! lol:D You'll 'THINK' about it ??? :nuts: He doesn't have a photo of you right? So next year it's like 'Yeah hi.. my names R****** B****** and I'm the Sydney diagram guy.. ' for me :D PS. No core rise today.. assuming that rumor was true about a pour last Monday then basically we've got tomorrow left to hope for the rise!! pisstake December 18th, 2003, 05:48 AM Isn't Saturday the last working day on the site before they finish for christmas? That would give them 2 days to get the rise done jag December 18th, 2003, 08:30 AM Most larger sites will close trow. 357 Collins (old slowcoach) closed today. Muse December 18th, 2003, 08:54 AM Originally posted by pisstake Isn't Saturday the last working day on the site before they finish for christmas? That would give them 2 days to get the rise done Spoke with the on-site project manager today and he told me tomorrow is the last day for construction on Eureka this year i.e. 19th Dec. and work will resume on 12th Jan.. CULWULLA December 18th, 2003, 11:54 AM @abrain;lol of course ill definately go up E. Im pretty sure there will be a rise either friday or sat to expose lev51.;) Muse December 18th, 2003, 02:13 PM Originally posted by Muse Spoke with the on-site project manager today and he told me tomorrow is the last day for construction on Eureka this year i.e. 19th Dec. and work will resume on 12th Jan.. Grollo December 18th, 2003, 02:44 PM http://www.helicopterservice.com.au/images/fish1_yarra_fin_lores.jpg A-brain December 19th, 2003, 01:38 AM Sorry boys but looks like no Core Rise for Chrissy present :bash: The site is pretty much shutdown today - I'm starting to wonder if that actually was a core pour last Monday (didn't see it myself) .. If it was then we have exactly the same scenario as last year when there was a pour before the Shutdown and then the rise in the following year startup !! lozza December 19th, 2003, 03:43 AM gday there was definitely a concrete pour on thursday morining. i would say that there will definitely be a core rise as they have jacked the crane up to allow for the 2 storey floor rise. If there wasn't going to be a cour rise before christmas, then why would they jack the crane up????? It should happen on saturday cheers lozza:dooby: A-brain December 19th, 2003, 04:47 AM Originally posted by lozza gday there was definitely a concrete pour on thursday morining. i would say that there will definitely be a core rise as they have jacked the crane up to allow for the 2 storey floor rise. If there wasn't going to be a cour rise before christmas, then why would they jack the crane up????? It should happen on saturday cheers lozza:dooby: Which Thursday morning? You mean yesterday (18th Dec) or last week (11th) ?? I thought the pour was actually last Monday. Either way even if it was last week they are all packed up for the year.. they won't be working tomorrow I can pretty much guarantee you.. Grollo December 19th, 2003, 06:34 AM I was in the city around 1 and every single site was shut down, I think that's it for the year and no core rise :-( ciaobellaxo December 19th, 2003, 06:34 AM Still no rise as at 4.30. Will it happen? jag December 19th, 2003, 11:44 PM You see there was an expected rise this week but alas. It was beaten by the heat again. Twice this week, if the temp hits 32 then its in the sheds, if it hits 35 its go home. They all went home early twice, so that holds up work yet again. Result no core rise. Holdups are caused by numerous reasons. They are classed into 2 separate groups, environmental and industrial. Heat, rain, wind, cold. Industrial - marches, strikes, etc Contracts - diputation Developer / client - poor relationship with workers, so go slow Martin Kingham - say no more EBA Accidents All these and more cause delays or stoppages. Its a wonder they get anything done. A-brain December 21st, 2003, 03:41 AM The NGV garden *is* the place for Eureka spotting.. http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00660.jpg Skyscraper Garden http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00657.jpg Even the old man is impressed with the Big E's rising girth.. Sure enough while taking these pics a couple were chatting to the nice doorman about Eureka, discussing the $8m penthouse and he was saying 'Oh yes.. see Level 49.. well roughly double that and...' Unfortunately couldn't get to the top level balcony at the NGV where an ever better pic could be had.. Richo December 22nd, 2003, 02:15 AM The big "E" looks great from that angle (NGV Garden). A-brain, if you took a few steps to the right the Rialto would be in even better view, as to give a good perspective on things. A-brain December 22nd, 2003, 08:57 AM Originally posted by Richo The big "E" looks great from that angle (NGV Garden). A-brain, if you took a few steps to the right the Rialto would be in even better view, as to give a good perspective on things. Yeah true actually.. but wanted to get as much of the garden & statues in as possible, because as you say it's a really beautiful view with the green in front. I'll leave it for someone with a better camera to do a better job! ciaobellaxo December 22nd, 2003, 01:28 PM Originally posted by jag You see there was an expected rise this week but alas. It was beaten by the heat again. Twice this week, if the temp hits 32 then its in the sheds, if it hits 35 its go home. They all went home early twice, so that holds up work yet again. Result no core rise. 32 and they stop work??!! Bloody hell. Can you imagine if every outside job had this rule. I reckon Melbourne would still be a country town today!! ciaobellaxo December 22nd, 2003, 01:44 PM Just had a look at the progress on the *cough* Q1 and I'm wondering why there is such a difference between the core and floor heights of the Q1 to the big E? The difference between the height of the core to the floor of the big E is nearly triple that of Q1! Core looks similar in size and if anything the Q1's floor plates are larger. Maybe due to the time taken in the reconfig of the floors of the big E and that Q1 is the same all the way up or that Grocon aren't concentrating the majority of their efforts on the big E? Anyone shed some light? :D invincible December 22nd, 2003, 02:35 PM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo 32 and they stop work??!! Bloody hell. Can you imagine if every outside job had this rule. I reckon Melbourne would still be a country town today!! My suggestion is that give the damn construction workers the day off, and make them all work in the night. No more heat - they're happy, we're happy. spazpecker December 22nd, 2003, 11:32 PM Don't forget that an ambient temp of 'just' 32 degrees can easily go to 40+ degrees with the heat radiating off concrete slabs, glass and beams etc. BTW, can anyone give me an updated height, in metres, to the top of the core box, based on A-brain's pic ? Nudging 180- 190m ? CULWULLA December 22nd, 2003, 11:56 PM Originally posted by spazpecker Don't forget that an ambient temp of 'just' 32 degrees can easily go to 40+ degrees with the heat radiating off concrete slabs, glass and beams etc. BTW, can anyone give me an updated height, in metres, to the top of the core box, based on A-brain's pic ? Nudging 180- 190m ? level 49 is 160m above ground. the corebox is approx 8m, thus totals 168m above ground! A-brain December 23rd, 2003, 12:02 AM Here's my updated pic of the Eureka diagram progress... http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/eureka-plan-49.jpg Amazing how much bulk there is yet to go!! cul - The plans state Level 49 slab height is RL156.50m, and the slab of Level 50 (roughly bottom of the core box) is RL159.75m (above sea level). This would make the height of exposed concrete almost exactly 157m *above ground* Add your roughly 8m for the core box and you get 165m above ground to the top of the box.. Which *ironically* is going to be the *exact* total height of PWC@FWP next door, is it not??!!! Impressive !!! CULWULLA December 23rd, 2003, 12:08 AM sorry abrain, i was going off memory,(havent got plan at work)lol yeah so its approx 165m high.The nearby PWC@FWP will be 161m high. still along way to go! the best bits yet to come;) tayser December 23rd, 2003, 12:22 AM yeah, Melbourne loves its office towers in between 160 and 170 metres: 169m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5287&drawingID=5285 167m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3567&drawingID=3565 166m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=1128&drawingID=1126 164.7m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3453&drawingID=3451 164m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5517&drawingID=5515 162m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=1121&drawingID=1119 [162m]: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=22699&drawingID=17352 161m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=2720&drawingID=2718 161m: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=2369&drawingID=9543 ~ 40 levels must be a favourite number for floors in this city ;) A-brain December 23rd, 2003, 03:15 AM LOL yeah I was just wondering that myself today.. Great work with the diagram pic.. I thought PWC was 164/5m or thereabouts.. Oh and guess what! I just noticed today they have started to number the floors (as well as the core) on the western side of Eureka !! So there is now a '32' & '33' on the uppermost floor pylons now laid visible from City Rd !! Very handy from now on as it's getting bloody hard to count which floor slab they are at.. The reason I have '32' in my sig as the current floor number is because that's the highest actual floor slab they have laid. The '33' appearing on the next level is on the pylons, which have already been exposed before the Level 33 slab is even poured. uewepuep December 23rd, 2003, 10:59 AM http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/eurekasNGV.jpg ciaobellaxo December 23rd, 2003, 11:07 AM :guns1: Awesome work uewepuep :guns1: I'd have to say though that the top of the big E would nearly be out of the top of the photo if it is just past halfway now. uewepuep December 23rd, 2003, 01:15 PM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo :guns1: Awesome work uewepuep :guns1: I'd have to say though that the top of the big E would nearly be out of the top of the photo if it is just past halfway now. Thanks! Its about the right height compared to IBM.. But yeah they aren't all THAT near each other. It should be a bit big then though, so i think its big, you think its small, it must be just about right! I had to extend A-brains photo to fit it in already :D I love this building :D Weerez December 23rd, 2003, 02:18 PM Fantastic work on the construction update diagram/comparison A-brain. Appreciated. E, what a beast!!!:colgate: Kushantaiidan December 25th, 2003, 02:23 PM Stunning render uewepuep :guns1: jag December 28th, 2003, 12:59 AM Jeepers creepers E will be the raging Hulk when its finished. Itll be more than twice the size of what it is now. RRRRRR. Trances December 28th, 2003, 12:16 PM That looks so great I want to get down there so bad :( tayser December 31st, 2003, 04:42 PM Yeah, just you watch this space: http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1072546597579_2004/01/01/nye_sparkles,0.jpg :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: http://theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1072908840621_2004/01/01/nye9,0.jpg :angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel: A-brain January 1st, 2004, 02:29 AM Yeah baby NYE 2005 if that gold crown isn't lit to the hilt with more crackers than a Ritz factory spewin off the top then Im moving to Hallam... aussie man January 1st, 2004, 07:35 AM Hey guys I'll post some more pictures of the Melbourne NYE fireworks at about 7pm. I went last night, and they were amazing!!! Can't wait for Eureka's gold crown to grace our skies...hopefully it will be some how incorporated into our future NYE celebrations!! Thanx guys, Matt:) aussie man January 1st, 2004, 04:32 PM I've got all the pictures of Melbourne's NYE fireworks on my hard drive, but I cant find anywhere to host them...anyone willing to host them for me, or know a good site that will?? I tried to upload them onto imagestation, but they took too long to upload. Thanx guys, Matt:) MILIUX January 4th, 2004, 01:44 AM Originally posted by aussie man I've got all the pictures of Melbourne's NYE fireworks on my hard drive, but I cant find anywhere to host them...anyone willing to host them for me, or know a good site that will?? I tried to upload them onto imagestation, but they took too long to upload. Thanx guys, Matt:) Ya got pm MG2 January 4th, 2004, 03:33 AM I love the fact that Melbourne has finally embraced the water!! Look at all those boats on the Yarra!! And down at New Quay from my apartment the water was alive!! PS - Can anyone tell me about the fireworks down on the Yarra... I never got to see them... and what happened to the Arts Centre Spire? I heard there was gonna be something cool happening with it...?? MG2 kasperluke January 4th, 2004, 04:25 AM Not sure if these pics have been posted before! but some from the Eureka Website of the Core Reaching halfway plus some others. www.eurekatower.com.au http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/arial/2.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/nov03/9.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/nov03/12.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/nov03/10.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/arial/1.jpg sirbugalugs January 4th, 2004, 04:57 PM Originally posted by MG2 PS - Can anyone tell me about the fireworks down on the Yarra... I never got to see them... and what happened to the Arts Centre Spire? I heard there was gonna be something cool happening with it...?? MG2 There were only 2 barges on either side of the Princes bridge. The display didn't go any further down the river because Crown were too cheap to have any fireworks. Although I don't think it should be their responsibility. The Arts spire had a handful of bursts from the very tip. Nowhere near as spectacular as I thought it would be. Some more creative lighting should be used to complement a better firework display next year. Cheers. Adamonline January 5th, 2004, 03:54 AM Message cancelled, membership voluntarily withdrawn. A-brain January 5th, 2004, 06:29 AM Gosh.. although I agree from many angles this is going to be a skinny tower.. http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/nov03/9.jpg .. this picture still makes you appreciate how f'n big the core is, and hence the rest of the building !! Also note how shallow the floor heights are in relation to core width - which is to be expected for a 91 story / 300m resi tower. As for next meet - we've just been starting to discuss that. I was suggesting Transport Pub @ Fed Sq when it's open, maybe Fri 30th Jan? kasperluke January 6th, 2004, 12:24 PM I was looking at the E today and was noticing the gaps in the current cladding that has been put up. ie Windows, and it occured to me that some of the gaps look permenant. Are these balconies? Because I don't really like the look of them at the moment! One of the gaps I am talking about can be seen in A-Brain's pic here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00657.jpg Maybe I am just jumping ahead of myself...it will probably look good when it is finished! aussie man January 6th, 2004, 01:17 PM yeah kasper... they're balconies. They will certainly look good, the way they're positioned in the 'cavaties' of the tower is great! Thanx guys, Matt:) CULWULLA January 6th, 2004, 02:15 PM yeah the balconies terminate at level64 or 203m high (eastern wing). A residential tower should have some balconies! Q1 has all internal balconies which range from 5-7 per floor. penthouse levels 66-74 have all large terraces which are located at the back elevation or as viewed from west. Level74 terraces are 217m above ground which makes them the highest outdoor balconies in Australia!. World Towers highest outdoor balcs stop at level 60 or approx 160m. A-brain January 6th, 2004, 11:08 PM Yeah I was worried at first when I started to see the gap form on Eureka where the balconies are.. it looks a little grey and rough compared to the gleaming blue glass of the other parts.. But the ingeniousness of the design is the way the centre tower will rise up past these balconies after the setbacks and continue uninterrupted to the gold crown. So effectively you'll have it looking like a central shard of crystal with two little chunks of shard stuck on each side separated by a bit of dirt! It will look good trust me. It's incredible how they've designed so many apartments each with an open air balcony yet managed to conceal them into a small portion of the building exterior. Fabian January 9th, 2004, 01:15 AM Originally posted by aussie man I've got all the pictures of Melbourne's NYE fireworks on my hard drive, but I cant find anywhere to host them...anyone willing to host them for me, or know a good site that will?? I tried to upload them onto imagestation, but they took too long to upload. Thanx guys, Matt:) Try Photobucket.com (www.photobucket.com) and it allows direct linking for big images unlike imagestation. I use it now for photo's that I want to host big and still keep all my pics on imagestation. I recommend it. I haven't replied here in some time so here is my two cents on this tower Originally posted by A-brain Yeah I was worried at first when I started to see the gap form on Eureka where the balconies are.. it looks a little grey and rough compared to the gleaming blue glass of the other parts. It will look good trust me. It's incredible how they've designed so many apartments each with an open air balcony yet managed to conceal them into a small portion of the building exterior. I had a similar reaction when I saw the last pic, thinking the glass wasn't going to appear there, but it isn't that bad after all, The grey blends in quite well with the glass fascade, and the presence of the balconies when viewed from a distance won't be as obvious.:) And as for NYE 2005, I want to see golden fireworks being released from the top of this scraper to tell the world that this is truely the No 1 apartment tower in the world. That would make for a great display!!!;) Blabbyboy January 9th, 2004, 07:26 AM Originally posted by sirbugalugs There were only 2 barges on either side of the Princes bridge. The display didn't go any further down the river because Crown were too cheap to have any fireworks. Although I don't think it should be their responsibility. The Arts spire had a handful of bursts from the very tip. Nowhere near as spectacular as I thought it would be. Some more creative lighting should be used to complement a better firework display next year. Cheers. There were two other barges letting off the big, high ones - one at Birrarrung Marr, the other at NewQuay. Blabbyboy January 9th, 2004, 07:30 AM Originally posted by A-brain Yeah I was worried at first when I started to see the gap form on Eureka where the balconies are.. it looks a little grey and rough compared to the gleaming blue glass of the other parts.. But the ingeniousness of the design is the way the centre tower will rise up past these balconies after the setbacks and continue uninterrupted to the gold crown. So effectively you'll have it looking like a central shard of crystal with two little chunks of shard stuck on each side separated by a bit of dirt! It will look good trust me. It's incredible how they've designed so many apartments each with an open air balcony yet managed to conceal them into a small portion of the building exterior. I had/have the same worry re the exposed balconies. The facade does look incomplete IMHO. The worst thing about it is that the balconies can be seen from pretty much front and back (ie if standing on Flinders St or City Rd. On reflection (off the glazing, of course), A-Brain's comments seem very positive and valid and I now know what he means - the balconies will be like exposed ribs - bleak, dark, brooding, so Melbourne! CULWULLA January 9th, 2004, 11:21 AM Originally posted by Blabbyboy I had/have the same worry re the exposed balconies. The facade does look incomplete IMHO. The worst thing about it is that the balconies can be seen from pretty much front and back (ie if standing on Flinders St or City Rd. On reflection (off the glazing, of course), A-Brain's comments seem very positive and valid and I now know what he means - the balconies will be like exposed ribs - bleak, dark, brooding, so Melbourne! guys!!! its a frieekin apartment tower!!!its not an office tower!!!! its going to have balconies!!! and lots of them! people will live inside the building!! theres nothing wrong with balconies...... its ok, everything will be fine!!! :ohno: jeeezzz tayser January 9th, 2004, 11:30 AM ^^ lol, go cul! :) lozza January 12th, 2004, 12:51 AM EUREKA IS "FULL STEAM AHEAD" AS OF TODAY ! Its bloody great to finally see those Eureka Cranes FIRING UP & on the go again ! Hopefully, the core rise will occur soon as it was poured before christmas ! :colgate: Also, with regard to the Eureka Balconies , i think it will not even be noticabloe froma distance, and as for the up close look, i think the grey balconies compliment the blue and white striped glass cladding. ( its good to have something a bit different anyway. ) Also, from the east west view, you can only see glass, no balconies. And from North South, the balconies taper off at 55 and 65, so the whole top is all glass, so there is really not much grey at all when u think about it ! cheers lozza :dooby: Aussie Steve January 12th, 2004, 01:33 AM Eureka has now hit 50 (exposed)! :D joed January 12th, 2004, 02:20 AM Damn. I should have turned around from my desk earlier. Yay, for the corse rise :D A-brain January 12th, 2004, 02:57 AM Yessir .. straight back on the job and completely as expected the full core rise .. 50 and 51 now exposed by lunchtime. Goes to show if it wasn't for those warm weather days in Dec we would have got it before Xmas. Photos later today.. joed January 12th, 2004, 03:03 AM Damn it again. Only just turned around and saw that level 51 was exposed. Beaten to the mark once again. skyperu34 January 12th, 2004, 03:20 AM EUREKA EUREKA EUREKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happy: A-brain January 12th, 2004, 04:29 AM Here ya go.. http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00668.jpghttp://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00665.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00672.jpghttp://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00674.jpg The core crane seems to be just about eaten up, which is weird coz normally it can take 2 x double-rises and they did rise it just before Xmas. Maybe they only rose it half way.. I put the height above ground at now about 172m to the top of the box. PS. I've also started a thread for the next Melbourne Meet ---> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82538 Grollo January 12th, 2004, 04:35 AM 40 levels in 48 weeks. Can Grocon meet the Eureka challenge and have it topped out by the end of the year? Richo January 12th, 2004, 05:15 AM Grollo, let's hope so. Richo January 12th, 2004, 05:26 AM By the way, I forgot to ask in my last reply. When is Eureka due for completion? - is it April 2005? climbing_crane January 12th, 2004, 06:34 AM Climbing crane from Sydneyhere. I would of thought both cranes would of been placed on top of the core box. That's what happened up here in Sydney with World Tower. Maybe this tower is alot thicker. It's looking good. That corebox seems around 190 metres to me. The Collector January 12th, 2004, 06:58 AM God, it looks big now! I know it has been said before but....... All bow down before The Big E:master: By the way A-brain, is the second shot taken from Bond Street looking South. If so, then that view will look spectacular come 2005. Heck all views of the big E will look great!:banana: _______________________________ I collect therefore I am:cool: ciaobellaxo January 12th, 2004, 08:19 AM How much more above sea level is Rialto compared to the big E? If they were level in terms of height above sea level, there would only be about say 10-15 metres in it now between them? A-brain January 12th, 2004, 09:36 AM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo How much more above sea level is Rialto compared to the big E? If they were level in terms of height above sea level, there would only be about say 10-15 metres in it now between them? Rialto and Eureka are about the same amount above sea level (~3m each) As such Eureka is still miles behind Rialto - about 80m in fact! Eureka is currently almost as high as the shorter Rialto North Tower (which is ~180m). Collector - Yes spot on that is Bond St looking south. And for those that have never been, probably the most amazing looking nightclub - Bond Bar - is found at the bottom of that crappy carpark on the left of picture, through a nondescript looking door. ciaobellaxo January 13th, 2004, 01:24 AM Isn't the south Rialto tower 55 stories high plus of course the observation decks so you can add another 3 maybe on top of that? lozza January 13th, 2004, 03:20 AM Ciaobellaxo , you are in fact correct in saying that Eureka is almost 55 stories along with the rialto, but you have to remember that the Rialto's levels are spaced out a lot more than Eureka's. Eureka's levels are approx. 3.3 metres apart, and the Rialto's Levels are approx. 4.2 metres apart, so even though Eureka is almost the same level as the rialto at the moment in terms of total levels, it is still waaaay behind as the Rialto's levels have an extra .9 of a metre added on for each level ( i.e 4.2 metres ( rialto's Levels) subtract 3.3 metres ( Eureka's Levels) = .9 metres per level difference roughly ) I hope i explained this correctly and without confusing you . :colgate: cheers lozza :dooby: defec8R January 13th, 2004, 08:41 AM Just wondering ... being a sad F1 follower, I found this photo from the 2003 race: http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_544.jpg Is that Eureka U/C on the left? When built, it may be an impressive sight every year from the track :guns1: A-brain January 13th, 2004, 08:58 AM Originally posted by defec8R Just wondering ... being a sad F1 follower, I found this photo from the 2003 race: http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2003/melbourne/diapo_544.jpg Is that Eureka U/C on the left? When built, it may be an impressive sight every year from the track :guns1: May Be? Mate it is going to look SEN-BLOODY-SATIONAL from the F1 track. Being on the closer side to the track it's gonna appear 350m compared to everything else! I'm hoping Grocon can get on the job and get a few more core rises before March so even this year it will be an impressive sight.. btw That's not it in the photo, but will rise high over the Aus Unity bld in the same pic CULWULLA January 15th, 2004, 06:36 AM cool pix guys, im on hols so havent been around much. Eureka is starting to seem TALL.lol should be great to watch it shoot skywards this year. :guns1: uewepuep January 15th, 2004, 11:07 AM I dont think its eureka, thats the comercial FWP building. i reckon Eureka is behind the australian unity building. Those might be the cranes sticking out from the top of it actually! :D A-brain January 15th, 2004, 02:58 PM Argggh.. I was hoping to go cold turkey for a week without a Eureka post - but news demands it! (Sorry tays) Level 25 is one of three plant levels in the tower (the others at 53 & 81) and unfortunately some big square black air vents have been installed amid the glass facade on the outer corners of the side-towers, facing North & South respectively. No photos yet but they do stand out quite a bit at the moment - I was hoping the air vents would all be recessed into the balcony area and not need to have any in the glass area. We can expect to see the same thing at Level 53. Fortunately Level 81 forms the break between the blue glass and gold so that will be hidden. Oh well - I don't think it'll spoil the look of the tower too much overall - the side towers do after all end at 55 & 64 respectively leaving the central tower rising with uninterrupted glass from Level 1 to Level 91 - the centre piece of the whole thing. It's still all good! Now my week of no-Eureka-post starts.... NOW ! lozza January 16th, 2004, 12:04 AM Gday A-Brain , Yeah, i noticed the plant level that you are talking about.. Oh well, i suppose with these new modern towers , u need air vents to let air in and out of the plant room level. I don't think u will notice it from a distance anyway, and the black vents don't look too bad up close either,. it actually breaks up the glass a bit believe it or not. What annoys me about the air vents on the north and south sides on the buildings edges is that the vents only take up one panel of the 3 panels, if u know what i mean. I reckon that if they are going to put vents there, it should take up the 3 panels, or none at all, instead of one out of 3 . Its sort of hard to explain, but take a look at the tower from southbank next time and you will get what i mean. Cheers Andy A-brain January 16th, 2004, 05:26 AM Yeah perhaps.. But the news gets worse. On the South Side today I noticed heaps more of the black vents actually along the diagonal bit - at irregular intervals!! I hope they know what they're doing, coz right now it looks fugly the way it is .. fishcatdogbird January 16th, 2004, 06:04 AM Originally posted by A-brain Yeah perhaps.. But the news gets worse. On the South Side today I noticed heaps more of the black vents actually along the diagonal bit - at irregular intervals!! I hope they know what they're doing, coz right now it looks fugly the way it is .. Good not posting for a week :happy: MG2 January 16th, 2004, 04:30 PM Hey A-Brain Just right off the topic here, but it looks like you're a buffy fan and I was just wondering if you'd heard of or are a member of the buffydownunder.com forum? Or anyone else for that matter...? *looks for show of hands* Andi PS - Back on track - it's Eureka, in planning for ten years = sound knowledge of structure and of course they aren't going to create something that doesn't look right. Irregular balconies are a no no and I'm sure that's not gonna be the case ;) (end of two cents) A-brain January 17th, 2004, 08:12 AM Yeah yeah fcdb I am gonna shut up! But this is/was the biggest development at E****a for a while. MG2 - yeah bigtime recently converted Buff fan .. I'm actually on the forum at www.buffy.com.au (bvsnut) - I hadn't really looked at buffydownunder.com.au till you mentioned it. Looks good also but I'm having enough fun just getting used to the one new forum for now (plus it seems busier - are you on it?). Anyway.. my week of no E****a posting officially really truly this time does start - NOW! MG2 January 17th, 2004, 09:08 AM Hey A-Brain, My partner used to be on Buffy.com.au but the moderators turned to dictators. His name was stevivor, perhaps you remember? Anyhow, he was pretty high up on the list and was very involved in organising group meets and one of the main reasons the Buffy Finale Party at the All Star was the larest in Oz!! To cut a long story short, he was stabbed in the back and joined the BDU (buffydownunder) forum and has since realised it is a whole lot better and busyer anyways. Not to mention the people are much nicer... a lot of them are now close friends. I am not such a huge fan, but just thought I'd let you know :) MG2 Muse January 18th, 2004, 01:23 AM Hrmmm, synopsis for "Buffy & The Grocon Demons": Buffy bumps off Gorocon project team one-by-one for getting Eureka off to a labouriously evil slow start. However this, a 2 part episode. They rise from soil hagged and decrepit yet morph into angelics by twists 'n turns in plot as Eureka takes on beautiful form. Ending simply with Buffy pre-committing to 'groovy pad' with Hollywood style lite end. Fin. In what A-Brain reported about the vents on levels 25, 53 and 81. Although vital for the plant areas to 'breathe', aesthetically they have a couple of affects on design. It's happening on another tall's construction in Sydney ATM. One concern is that they break up the sheerness of the edifices :( . Yet they can make a design more interesting by breaking it up :) . 6 of one, half a doz.... Being a construction/structural enineering fan, can't wait to see pics of Eureka including the new 'vent' adherence. (Even though I can see where they are positioned for 25 & 53 on the Hocking Stuart renders @ home). *A-Brain weens off 'cold turkeying it'* *Muse needs vent 'fix', like real bad* ;) lozza January 19th, 2004, 03:05 AM Gdya A-Brain Yeah, i noticed the irregular pattern of the service level black vents on the pointy edges of the tower.. However, i am in kind of 2 minds, one thing i noticed was that you cant really see the vents as the glass is that dark anyway that it blends in, but on the other hand, it may have looked nicer if it was all vents all the way round. But seening there is not vents all the way round, there is more glass, so i haven't quite worked out what i think yet. One thing i will say is that the black air vents look more obvious from the north as the sun is shining right on them, especially the ones that are on the rectangular edges of the tower when lpooking from the north or south. cheers :cheers: lozza : dooby: duke January 19th, 2004, 11:26 AM Question from Queensland (with apologies if its already been asked!) Most of the skyscrapers under construction up here have core and floor rises that remain in sync. Why is it that Eureka's core is so far above the floors? Recent pictures of Riparian Plaza for comparison. http://server4.vnpages.net/~one/bne/rip7_9.jpg ciaobellaxo January 19th, 2004, 11:36 AM My guess is due to the floor plates being of a complex shape down towards the base and the core being narrow and smallish so it doesn't take as long. :D See how that answer goes with the rest of the guys ;) Dean January 19th, 2004, 12:36 PM ok guys listen up.. coz i ve only explained this about 20 times over the last 12 months. :D Concrete towers are desinged using loading( be it shear forces (V*) or bending moments (M*)) on the concrete at its 28 DAY STRENGTH which is called f'c or f' 28 . this is equal to approx 90% of full concrete strength. people dont realise that concrete continues to dry or cure for many years after a building is completed and continues to gain strength in the process this is the reason the core rises above the floor plates, as the cores needs at least 28 days to cure so it can safely carry the loads from the floor plates. depending on what company is building some cores rise way above the plates while some stay close... the ones on riparian are at the absolute minimum if its riseing at 1 floor per week.. look slike 4 levels above there so 28 days. Eureka is the oppsite with the core being allowed to cure well beyond its 28 stregth b4 it carries load. well i did get a few things from my engineering career .. lol Cheers Dean - Melbourne Dean January 19th, 2004, 12:39 PM just a footnote: Riparian: thats one ugly mother fucker what a dog Cheers Dean - Melbourne aussieinsoho January 19th, 2004, 01:47 PM I hear ya Dean...I hear ya.... Weerez January 19th, 2004, 10:22 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by A-brain [B]Yeah perhaps.. But the news gets worse. On the South Side today I noticed heaps more of the black vents actually along the diagonal bit - at irregular intervals!! After looking at the vents now in place on the west side of the tower I think they may be highlighted less or more by the weather. With the amount of glass around each vent if the sky is dull or grey the glass is darker and the vents might blend in more with the glass and the opposite when its bright like when I saw them. Very noticeable IMO. :? lozza January 20th, 2004, 12:02 AM Gday You will not notice the vents on the south side as much as the north side due to the fact that the sun shines on the tower from the north. If you look at Eureka from the North ( Southbank) , you will see that the black vents stand out more. From the sough, it is barely noticable. By the way............. "A MINI MILESTONE " I live in mooroolbark which is 35km from the city due east. I can now see Eureka from the hill where i live in Mooroolbark 35km away, so its kind of a Mini Milestone ! To be honest, with the addition of Eureka, the skyline is going to look very wide from the east.. The skyline now stretches from Eureka at southbank to Mmelbourne Central in the north. I never thought i would say that melbournes skyline would look as big fom north to south as it is from east to west !!! :colgate: cheers lozza :dooby: fishcatdogbird January 20th, 2004, 12:08 AM Originally posted by Weerez [QUOTE]Originally posted by A-brain [B]Yeah perhaps.. But the news gets worse. On the South Side today I noticed heaps more of the black vents actually along the diagonal bit - at irregular intervals!! After looking at the vents now in place on the west side of the tower I think they may be highlighted less or more by the weather. With the amount of glass around each vent if the sky is dull or grey the glass is darker and the vents might blend in more with the glass and the opposite when its bright like when I saw them. Very noticeable IMO. :? Its not bad news, its all part of its unreal design. When we look back we will realise why they were put there this way. PS. Riparian is a hole that stretches skywards ??? Glad its in Brisbane. (please dont take too seriously bne) Grollo January 20th, 2004, 01:52 AM Originally posted by lozza To be honest, with the addition of Eureka, the skyline is going to look very wide from the east.. The skyline now stretches from Eureka at southbank to Mmelbourne Central in the north. I never thought i would say that melbournes skyline would look as big fom north to south as it is from east to west !!! :colgate: The skyline will look even bigger from the east when Royal Domain and Verve 501 are completed! zion January 20th, 2004, 07:02 AM Riparian will look better when they paint the concrete with dulux. Sorry to say, its very 60-70s design, looks dated before it built. The should mirror glass the facade Muse January 20th, 2004, 09:30 PM Originally posted by Dean Concrete towers are desinged using loading( be it shear forces (V*) or bending moments (M*)) on the concrete at its 28 DAY STRENGTH which is called f'c or f' 28 . this is equal to approx 90% of full concrete strength. etc. etc. etc.... well i did get a few things from my engineering career .. lol Cheers Dean - Melbourne Oh yeah, that's the stuff. :devil: Love it! :cheers1: to Dean! ciaobellaxo January 21st, 2004, 08:17 AM Unless my eyes are playing tricks I do believe we've had a crane rise by looks of the LSS webcam :D :D :guns1: Anyone confirm this? tayser January 21st, 2004, 11:27 AM looks it, I purposely waited til dark to see (can see the gap better) http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/lssenight.jpg CULWULLA January 21st, 2004, 12:07 PM yeah looks like a "crane rise". ive worked out the top of crane is about 210m high. Thats about height of FWP1! these two together should be an awesome spectacle at night! imagine the views from Eureka ob deck peering down on the completed FWP complex! 2005 bring it on! ciaobellaxo January 21st, 2004, 01:08 PM Speaking of the crane. How do they raise the crane? I realise the crane is on top of a tower which is in sections but how do they put more sections on top to lift the crane up? Probably a really simple answer to this no doubt :? CULWULLA January 21st, 2004, 11:06 PM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo Speaking of the crane. How do they raise the crane? I realise the crane is on top of a tower which is in sections but how do they put more sections on top to lift the crane up? Probably a really simple answer to this no doubt :? yeah the crane hoists up a section of tower and places it next to crane tower then the whole thing is hoisted up and the new section rolls in and set in place.this keeps on going all through construction process. heres some pix i found of process>> .http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/tower-crane18.jpg http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/tower-crane19.jpg Once the building is finished and it is time for the crane to come down, the process is reversed -- the crane disassembles its own mast and then smaller cranes disassemble the rest joed January 22nd, 2004, 12:05 AM Speaking of crane rises :D Crane has risen. lozza January 22nd, 2004, 12:21 AM GDAY CULLWULLA How come the crane has only risen 2 stories this time?? It normally rises 4 storeys each time to cater for 2 core rises ??? Also, when is the next Core Re-Configuration ? Level 56 or 66? Cheers Lozza :dooby: CULWULLA January 22nd, 2004, 03:04 AM hi loz, yeah sometimes the crane doesnt complete a full rise. maybe next one today? yeah its lev56 where next config is. this is where west wing terminates.so maybe a month away before the core reduces size again. then its lev66 for the west wing termination. then main central tower rises the rest to the heavens!:guns1: http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/eureka-plan-49.jpg tayser January 22nd, 2004, 11:19 AM http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/eureka/eureka2201041.jpg CULWULLA January 22nd, 2004, 12:18 PM wow, starting to look wiiiide! the floor plate is currently at approx 100m high, just imagine another 2 of these on top! Kushantaiidan January 23rd, 2004, 02:39 AM The black spots burn my eyes! Those plant air vents are AWFUL!! Hacksaw January 23rd, 2004, 03:32 AM http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pd7ff8071ada8dd12a1bd2c3acf7a4a7f/f9e02e9b.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pfa0091f2aba1b372a83edcb498092fdb/f9e02e7a.jpg tayser January 23rd, 2004, 03:39 AM fellas, settle, if we can deal with it on MC, we can deal with it on E. I'll bet (unless you've noticed it before) that it takes you at least 5 seconds to find the air vents on MC: http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/janwalk14.jpg 'nuff said. More pics from above set (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84437) :) lozza January 23rd, 2004, 03:59 AM Gday, Yeah, i agree with Tays regarding Eureka's black vents. You will only really notice them from the north side anyway as the sun shines directly on the tower from the north . The south side is not nearly as noticable. In fact, i advise you guys to look at Eureka from the south and i bet u can't even notice the vents from 20 - 50 metres away. The bottom line is, these vents are a necessity and cannot be avoided, and in my opinion, they also break up the tower a bit. Cheers Lozza :dooby: lozza January 23rd, 2004, 04:02 AM By the way ...... I looooooooooooooooooove the Blue Glass and White Striped Faecade ! Bloody Awesome ! :rock: Cheers Lozza :dooby: fishcatdogbird January 23rd, 2004, 06:00 AM Tays = Spot on ! SydneyDude January 23rd, 2004, 06:34 AM Eurekas gona be so f*ckn huge noones gona notice some little air vents. I mean i hadnt even noticed the air vents on MC until Tayser pointed them out ^. Lookin good fellas :guns1: ciaobellaxo January 23rd, 2004, 08:30 AM Yup! Ditto with tays and lozza :yes: By the time the big E is topped out, we'll all be blown away by the size of it and the vents won't even be on our minds! The big E is going to set a benchmark for all residential towers right around the world IMO :guns1: Hacksaw January 23rd, 2004, 01:49 PM Starting to make an impact on the skyline: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p53bbfd7b8b34d009521e31cfa7aba444/f9daaa75.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pcf4727ad8951d65f81ee334238608e69/f9daaa6b.jpg MILIUX January 24th, 2004, 12:00 AM Time for a core rise? CULWULLA January 24th, 2004, 02:04 AM Originally posted by Matixvolta Time for a core rise? probably this wed or fri? Weerez January 24th, 2004, 09:35 AM Originally posted by tayser fellas, settle, if we can deal with it on MC, we can deal with it on E. I'll bet (unless you've noticed it before) that it takes you at least 5 seconds to find the air vents on MC: 'nuff said. Also on Rialto near the plant box. A-brain January 25th, 2004, 03:57 AM Well my self imposed E****a exile is up so back on board and time for an update... There won't be a core rise this week sorry to say. No pour on Friday :( and with the 4 day bludge weekend, they rarely pour first day back from hols, so probably Thursday earliest pour with rise following Monday. After the next rise the 2nd & final core reconfig is ready to happen - here should be the order of events (based on the last reconfig): 1. Core Pour this Thursday, followed by Rise on Monday 2nd Feb exposing 52-53 2. Two weeks later (Mid Feb), core pour for Level 54-55 3. Instead of immediately rising, a week or two later (End Feb) the West Wall of the Core Box is removed, exposing part of 54-55 4. Next day, the core box (partly disassembled) rises, fully exposing 54-55. Then the narrowed West Side is reassembled. 5. Next Pour & Rise with the new narrowed box happens Mid-March, to expose 56-57. So there you have it, everyone keep your eyes peeled in a months time for the big reconfig! Regarding the black vents - they do look v.noticeable late in the day when the sky makes the sun light blue, but other times it's fine, oh well I think the overall size will lessen the impact. You have to appreciate Rialto, they cleverly hid all the vents in the vertical spine that joins the North & South tower. lozza January 27th, 2004, 03:30 AM Gday Abrain I am sure there was a core pour on friday morning.. i remember getting off the train at flinders st station and seeing the red arm going for it in the core box, but maybe it wasnt the big pour??? cheers lozza :dooby: A-brain January 27th, 2004, 07:36 AM Hmm.. well if this is the case it's great news! I'm not doubting you but I drove past mid-morning and mid-arvo and definately the arm was stowed away. They don't seem to do half-pours - it's either all or nothing, but then they also usually take at least half a day. Tell you what - if the core has risen by Friday then I'm buying the first round + 1/2! (But wont hold you to the reverse). Adamonline January 27th, 2004, 11:45 AM Message cancelled, membership voluntarily withdrawn. mgpenguin January 27th, 2004, 11:48 AM Went past Eureka on the train at flinders on Sunday morning and the core arm didn't look stowed away; it was sticking out over the edge of the core box - I'm sure usually it's within the bounds of it; maybe they were draining it over the weekend or something? who knows. Anyway... CULWULLA January 27th, 2004, 01:09 PM Originally posted by Adamonline It would be very cool indeed if Eureka had an interactive macromedia indicator that highlights the progress of the building like the new RACV Centre at 501 Bourke Street. RACV Website (http://racvcentre.racv.com.au/racvcentre/index.cfm) http://racvcentre.racv.com.au/racvCentre/images/general/welcome_teaser.jpg The Eureka Project hasn't been very well promoted as has the much smaller RACV Centre. There was an interesting article on that today in the Herald Sun. yeah , how good would the graphics be if they did the same for Eureka website. They could have heights for every floor and indicate its milestones as it progresses skywards.You could have a virtual lift and get in at ground and ride up to your apartment and see actual views ect. Also the view from top observation ect. lozza January 27th, 2004, 10:09 PM RE: Eureka Core Rise : OH WELL , Today will be the day for the rise (Wednesday) if the core was poured on Friday . If it was poured on Fri, then its certain to rise today. If it doesn't rise , then, i suppose it won't until this weekend. cheers lozza :dooby: lozza January 28th, 2004, 12:40 AM Gday I worked out why the crane only rose once this time. its because the core will be reconfigured after this rise . When level 52 & 53 are exposed, Level 54 has also been poured in the core. So level 55 is where the core is reconfigured, thus , there is no need for another crane rise till thats all done. I hope i am right ???? Cheers Lozza :dooby: Grollo January 28th, 2004, 12:50 PM Official pics from www.eurekatower.com.au from December: http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/1.jpg This view will be a wall of 150m+ buildings soon... http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/2.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/3.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/5.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/6.jpg EUREKA!!! http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/8.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/10.jpg Trances January 28th, 2004, 02:00 PM Nice photos could do with that horrid building in the first photo :( Kushantaiidan January 28th, 2004, 02:54 PM here here lozza January 28th, 2004, 09:56 PM Gday U were right A-Brain. The core is being poured today - ( Thursday 29th January ) So i suppose it will rise on Saturday or Monday next week. Its a bit slack as the last core rise was on the 12/1/04 , which was 17 days ago. So to complete the whole cycle this time, it will be the best part of 19 - 20 days by the time the core has risen again to expose levels 52 & 53. I really thought the core would have risen early this week, but never mind. At least it is being poured today. Cheers Lozza :dooby: :rock: CULWULLA January 28th, 2004, 11:36 PM wow, cool pix from official website! hey, why does the Fed square remind me of an army barracks? sorry guys but how did this get approved being across the road from beautiful Railway station and St Pauls cathedral? i mean it would look ok in a better context seriously.! I understand its interior is remarkable and innovative but its exterior?? http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/1.jpg barneybuck January 29th, 2004, 12:49 AM Originally posted by CULWULLA wow, cool pix from official website! hey, why does the Fed square remind me of an army barracks? sorry guys but how did this get approved being across the road from beautiful Railway station and St Pauls cathedral? i mean it would look ok in a better context seriously.! I understand its interior is remarkable and innovative but its exterior?? http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/dec03/1.jpg Ask Jeff kennett CUL. I agree its a great and innovative building but its in the wrong location it would have been sensational at Victoria harbour docklands. But unfortunately we are stuck with it and the public seem to have really embraced it mightily. lozza January 29th, 2004, 01:26 AM GDAY CULWULLA, Believe it or not, the exterior is waaaay better in real life. To really appreciate it, you need to take a good walk around all the outside areas of the Square.. The shot in the above picture of Fed Square doesn't do it justice at all. it just looks like army barracks, but when u look at it from other angles, it is waaay more interesting. Also, believe it or not, Fed Square is in an awesome position as you have Flinders street on one corner , the church on the other side and Fed Square on the other corner, so there is this really diverse range of architecture all in the one area , so it looks really cool ! Cheers Lozza :dooby: Dean January 29th, 2004, 02:20 AM ^^ Yeah thats about as good as u could put it... on one side u have mid-late 19th century church architecture(St Pauls), then the other side has early 20th Century(1901-11) edwardian(Flinders St Station) and oppposite u have early 21st century modernististic buildings(Fed Sq) to look at... nice and diverse i reckon. Cheers Dean - Melbourne kasperluke January 29th, 2004, 08:39 AM Well I am not sure if I was seeing things but it looked like there was more of a core pour today??! Or would the arm at the top moving around be for something else? i would have to agree with Lozz it does look way better from the other side and in real life...also ANYTHING and I mean anything is better then the Gas a fuel buildings....you couldn't even see the cathederal then!! A-brain January 29th, 2004, 02:40 PM Yes as predicted and as reported by lozz - definately the core pour was today, so almost definately the rise will be on Monday. Floor rises are also progressing steadily with 34 West rising today after the pour only yesterday. Yeah cul sorry mate but I think your wrong on both counts with Fed Square - both the exterior and the location. It's perfect for it's location - it's definately added the 'City Square' to Melbourne CBD that we never could establish with the old one at Little Collins & Swanston. The bowl-like sloping ampitheatre that they deliberately built into the design is crucial to building up the atmosphere to the place - and it works well. And yes the exterior is infinately more interesting up close and personal with the way the light plays off it. I'm not saying it's to everyones tastes but it looks much better than those photos which I agree make it look like the front of the 'Aussie Disposals' store. Back to the location - Docklands would have been totally wrong for Fed Square at this point in time. Fed Square is designed as a meeting place and Doclkands is still too out of the way. lozza January 29th, 2004, 09:59 PM All your points are good points guys ! well said ! Well, its absolutely bucketing down with rain in Melbourne this morning, so i guess we all know what that means in terms of CBD construction today...................... :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: NOTHING MUCH WILL BE DONE !!!! :rant: :rant: :rant: Anyway, see u all tonite at Transport after 5pm cheersd lozza :dooby: ciaobellaxo January 29th, 2004, 10:08 PM Is the Melbourne meet tonight?? Where abouts in Fed Square is Transport?? A-brain January 29th, 2004, 10:12 PM You cant miss it ciao - it's right out on it's own near the bridge with three big yellow 'T' signs revolving on it's roof.. MILIUX January 31st, 2004, 05:47 AM Any floor rise, yet? tayser January 31st, 2004, 05:50 AM No. Philip Burt February 1st, 2004, 02:54 AM Last night I went to a restaurant in Russell st called Lebanese House. Its right opposite QV and a great place for skyscraper nuts to watch the progress of construction while eating. Anyway I went out the front for some fresh air and noticed the real estate agent next door finishing work late in the evening and started talking to him. He told me that recently (didn't say exactly when) the one remaining penthouse at Eureka was sold to Bob Jane (of T-Mart fame) for $8.5 million, making it the highest priced sale for any Melbourne apartment ever. I'm quoting the guy correctly but I'm sure one of you more knowledgable forumers will refute his information if it is wrong! plotstyle February 1st, 2004, 06:15 AM if it was though an agent imagine the commision of 1% on 8.5 million ... my dads a real estate agent but only new to the game the is one or two apartments in the epsy development that are above 5 million each if any one want to buy one let me know : ) jacobsian February 1st, 2004, 06:28 AM Originally posted by Philip Burt Last night I went to a restaurant in Russell st called Lebanese House. Its right opposite QV and a great place for skyscraper nuts to watch the progress of construction while eating. Anyway I went out the front for some fresh air and noticed the real estate agent next door finishing work late in the evening and started talking to him. He told me that recently (didn't say exactly when) the one remaining penthouse at Eureka was sold to Bob Jane (of T-Mart fame) for $8.5 million, making it the highest priced sale for any Melbourne apartment ever. I'm quoting the guy correctly but I'm sure one of you more knowledgable forumers will refute his information if it is wrong! Wasn't Bob Jane close to his last breath, dying from cancer 10 years ago? CULWULLA February 2nd, 2004, 10:59 PM theres been a rise this morning guys! just looked at webcam and its gone up a level . Do you guys save each core rise as seen from lss webcam like i do and now have a over a dozen images? i then run a slideshow and its a mini movie of Eureka AND FWP being built and rising skywards! its fab! :cheers: CULWULLA February 3rd, 2004, 12:53 AM just looked at lss webcam again, the core is rising again as im typing this post! suppose lev53 is now exposed!! lol! check it out! Fabian February 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM Hot off the press guys :cool: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/fabamuso/Eureka+Feb+2a.jpg CULWULLA February 3rd, 2004, 01:20 AM full 2 floor rise is now complete!! it took from 8am-11am this morning! lev53 exposed, height to core box 178m! anyone down that way today? ciaobellaxo February 3rd, 2004, 01:43 AM You beat me to it guys. I saw the LSS webcam early this morning but couldn't post as the site was down! Or my ISP was down ;) Floor 53 exposed with 54-56 in the core box or just 54 and 55? CULWULLA February 3rd, 2004, 02:07 AM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo You beat me to it guys. I saw the LSS webcam early this morning but couldn't post as the site was down! Or my ISP was down ;) Floor 53 exposed with 54-56 in the core box or just 54 and 55? apparently theres always another floor in corebox (Grocon has told me this). at 178m to corebox, EUREKA is now Melbournes 10th tallest building! (and closing). bldg/height/storeys/year 1. 120 Collins Street 264 m 52 1991 2. 101 Collins Street 260 m 50 1991 3. Rialto Towers 251 m 63 1986 4. Melbourne Central 246 m 53 1991 5. Bourke Place 224 m 51 1991 6. Telstra Corporate Building 218 m 47 1992 7. Nauru House 190 m 50 1977 8. Sofitel Hotel, [Collins Place] 185 m 50 1981 9. ANZ Tower [Collins Place] 185 m 46 1980 10.EUREKA 178m/53 feb3,2004.UC as it seems to go up 2 floors at a time or 6.5m.its next to eclipse collins place after next rise. ciaobellaxo February 3rd, 2004, 02:23 AM If they aren't already I think people WILL be starting to notice the big E. Especially considering there's not much height around it. I reckon as soon as it hits the mid 60's people will be starting to stare and look up in awe :master: :master: ciaobellaxo February 3rd, 2004, 02:26 AM The crane will be due for a rise now too so that guy operating it is gonna have one hell of a view :D flyin_higher February 3rd, 2004, 03:49 AM Good to see a core rise, reaching skywards evermore! Im sure people WILL be noticing this one now; its blatantly unmissable from most places in Melbourne I would presume? :cheers: lozza February 3rd, 2004, 07:06 AM yEAH , ITS STARTING TO STICK OUT LIKE DOGS BALLS NOW IMAGINE WHEN ITS 40 ODD LEVELS HIGHER ! CHEERS LOZZA :dooby: Weerez February 3rd, 2004, 07:13 AM Watched it rise this morning from 1030 to 1100. Also was out at Hoppers Crossing later on and when returning home towards the City you could see the thin core like a monolith. Thats some 25km away also with low cloud. Can't wait till its topped out.:guns1: joed February 3rd, 2004, 11:28 AM Funny how when ever there's a core rise someone has to make the comment like "gee, it's looking big now"....hmm. lol All good. Saw the thing rise from my office - I was thinking, hmm, the crane on top looks really short today or there's a core rise. Yay for the later :D CULWULLA February 3rd, 2004, 01:42 PM still no photos of its new height! looking forward to see them! :cheers: Fabian February 4th, 2004, 05:24 AM Originally posted by CULWULLA still no photos of its new height! looking forward to see them! :cheers: Go back to the last page. I saved a webcam image of the tower at the end of the yesterdays rise.:) CULWULLA February 4th, 2004, 06:12 AM Originally posted by Fabian Go back to the last page. I saved a webcam image of the tower at the end of the rise.:) fabian, even i could of done that.lol. obviously i ment actual photo from near Eureka or under it!ect ect.. i noticed yesterday it wasnt showing. Those images from lss.com dont always show up. you have to actually save them and upload on your own photo hoster. A-brain February 5th, 2004, 12:18 AM Well I'm overseas so you'll have to wait 2 weeks for my trademark shot.. Joel in TO February 5th, 2004, 01:54 AM Hey guys, greetings from Toronto, Canada. This is a seriously beautiful tower! All I can say is I am soooooo jealous! ciaobellaxo February 5th, 2004, 02:02 AM Welcome aboard Joel! :D Yes we must agree with you on that ;) The big E is going to one awesome tower when completed. Cul - for the purpose of getting into the CBD on a regular basis to take pics of everything, unfortunately I work and live in the Sth Eastern burbs so not able to get there as often as I'd like. Would be sensational to be working in a nearby office tower with a window desk and watch the progress :guns1: ciaobellaxo February 5th, 2004, 02:24 AM DOH!! The LSS webcam is down :rant: CULWULLA February 5th, 2004, 02:27 AM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo DOH!! The LSS webcam is down :rant: thats funny, i just checked out an up to date pic as of 5mins ago! uewepuep February 5th, 2004, 06:33 AM Take that all of you without anaglyph glasses Your eyes are meeellltttinnnggg http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/2004-02-05%20Melbourne%20-%20Yarra%20Anaglyphs/eureka.jpg kasperluke February 5th, 2004, 10:17 AM This is before the core rise but it is really popping its head up around the place! http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/eurekadock.jpg http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/E+R.jpg joed February 5th, 2004, 11:01 AM Went to the observation deck for work (yay :D) So took this pano. It didn't stitch all that well and i wasn't sure where I should put it. But hey, here's good a place as any. http://homepage.mac.com/jbadcock/Melbourne/misc/Rialto_360pano_040205.jpg kasperluke February 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM ^That is top work! You should give it to the rialto so they can update their pictures up the top! joed February 5th, 2004, 11:12 AM I compressed that images heaps so if anyone wants a larger version let me know. flyin_higher February 5th, 2004, 11:42 AM Very nice Pano there Joed! Top effort indeed!:cool: ciaobellaxo February 5th, 2004, 12:31 PM Originally posted by CULWULLA thats funny, i just checked out an up to date pic as of 5mins ago! Tried it twice Cul and the damn thing wouldn't work so you must have got it just as it came back up. Dunno :? When can we expect the crane to rise if it hasn't already done so? CULWULLA February 5th, 2004, 01:07 PM outstanding pano joed! ciaobellaxo - i think the actual crane rises a week or so after the core rise. so next few days? The crane on top of Eureka has a maximum extension of 45m. thus top of current crane is approx- 178m+45m =223m. i guess when the full 297m height is reached the tip of crane will be up around 350m! plotstyle February 5th, 2004, 11:04 PM what program use to join em? joed February 6th, 2004, 05:21 AM I used Photostitch by Canon. A very basic programme but it's ok. CULWULLA February 6th, 2004, 06:11 AM ive noticed today on webcam the whole floor plate went up ! abrains sig says level34. is this current floor? A-brain February 6th, 2004, 08:03 AM Cul its now Lvl 35 laid (West) as of today as you observed. My floor height is of the currently laid slab (or floorplate). At the same time, the walls of Level 36 are also already laid (you can see a number 36 on the sides now), but I'm sticking with the slab level as my stated height. There is also a couple of levels of scaffolding on top of this so all up what you can see in the webcam is roughly around level 38-39. Hacksaw February 6th, 2004, 09:02 AM Looking good, seems a bit thin from some angles though... http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1173f980bd3b731fd4ce2fc799e0f1f1/f9b3e408.jpg Lil' Flip February 6th, 2004, 11:19 AM hmm.. looks thicker than the rialto larven February 6th, 2004, 11:19 AM Great shot there Hacksaw. From this angle Eureka is really starting to stand tall over Southbank and it doesn't look like it will be long before the core exceeds Rialto. Its certainly shaping up to be an awesome tower.:D ciaobellaxo February 6th, 2004, 01:15 PM Certainly is from these shots I took. First one in Swan St on my way to the cricket.. http://www.iffd.net/scott/bigeswanst.jpg This one taken whilst at the cricket.. http://www.iffd.net/scott/bigemcg.jpg Is really standing out now! :guns1: R@ptor February 6th, 2004, 08:22 PM Great construction pictures. :happy: I love the design of the tower which is a great addition for an already great skyline. I hope Eureka Tower is topped out when I visit Australia from December 2004 to February 2005. Kushantaiidan February 7th, 2004, 06:28 AM Originally posted by Hacksaw Looking good, seems a bit thin from some angles though... http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1173f980bd3b731fd4ce2fc799e0f1f1/f9b3e408.jpg Exactly precicely where was this photo taken from?!?! Because I want to see a panoramic version showing the rest of the city's skyline towards thr right.. It would be awesome... Muse February 7th, 2004, 06:49 AM Learn from the project manager that: * Out of the 560 apartments almost 85% have either been sold or pre-commited. That's approx 475. * Although advertised as 88 levels, it's actually 91 with the 3 plant levels atop. * Level 88 is now officially the observation level. The nightclub originally planned for that level has been mooted i.e. kaputz. * Levels 85, 86 & 87 will be serviced office suites. * The core is in the midst of reaching level 56. * The floorplates have just been completed for level 40 and * anticipated completion month is either August or Sept 95 (I guess apart form some interior and infrastructure work). :) John SydneyDude February 7th, 2004, 06:54 AM Originally posted by Muse Learn from the project manager that: * Out of the 560 apartments almost 85% have either been sold or pre-commited. That's approx 475. * Although advertised as 88 levels, it's actually 91 with the 3 plant levels atop. * Level 88 is now officially the observation level. The nightclub originally planned for that level has been mooted i.e. kaputz. * Levels 85, 86 & 87 will be serviced office suites. * The core is in the midst of reaching level 56. * The floorplates have just been completed for level 40 and * anticipated completion month is either August or Sept 95 (I guess apart form some interior and infrastructure work). :) John wow the big E is about to have its 10 year anniversary! Geez, the past ten years have gone fast... :) flyin_higher February 7th, 2004, 08:29 AM lol@Sydneydude Cool construction pics guys! Looks very close indeed to Rialto's height!:cool: Hacksaw February 7th, 2004, 09:38 AM Originally posted by Kushantaiidan Exactly precicely where was this photo taken from?!?! Because I want to see a panoramic version showing the rest of the city's skyline towards thr right.. It would be awesome... That was taken from Scotch College... it's a pretty good view of the city, here's what you see: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p4688672eae9bd07ff26c7d93fb70b46e/f9b3e40b.jpg plotstyle February 7th, 2004, 10:37 AM Originally posted by Muse Learn from the project manager that: * Although advertised as 88 levels, it's actually 91 with the 3 plant levels atop. * Level 88 is now officially the observation level. The nightclub originally planned for that level has been mooted i.e. kaputz. :) John i think they should have a party there for new years then rent it out lol can u imagine trying to get 1000 **** clubbers out of there if something happened what ever happened to the BCA... i lov it how in fwp and eureka the top 3 floors are plant rooms ill live there Curtain February 7th, 2004, 11:42 AM Originally posted by Muse Learn from the project manager that: * Out of the 560 apartments almost 85% have either been sold or pre-commited. That's approx 475. * Although advertised as 88 levels, it's actually 91 with the 3 plant levels atop. * Level 88 is now officially the observation level. The nightclub originally planned for that level has been mooted i.e. kaputz. * Levels 85, 86 & 87 will be serviced office suites. * The core is in the midst of reaching level 56. * The floorplates have just been completed for level 40 and * anticipated completion month is either August or Sept 95 (I guess apart form some interior and infrastructure work). :) John Cool. One set of plans had L88 as a restaurant level with RL284.75m A 281m observation deck isnt bad, i think thats at least in the top 20 observation decks in the world. CULWULLA February 7th, 2004, 12:38 PM level 88 is 282m above ground. or RL284.75m. remember the ground is only RL2.7m/9ft above sea level. #great pic guys! i still cant believe Eureka is still not 180m tall! so its still another 120m or so to go! it will stand out like...... RATS TESTICLES when complete:D ciaobellaxo February 7th, 2004, 12:45 PM Originally posted by SydneyDude wow the big E is about to have its 10 year anniversary! Geez, the past ten years have gone fast... :) :laugh: I knew someone wouldn't be able to resist the temptation. I must admit after saying the white 'stripes' on the big E make it look tacky, from Hacksaw's pic it looks pretty damn good from a distance ;) CULWULLA February 7th, 2004, 01:53 PM well, drew up a quick scale diagram of same view with Eureka,FWP1 and 2SB shown. http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p1173f980bd3b731fd4ce2fc799e0f1f1/f9b3e408.jpg as you can see this is the wide view of Eureka at 53m the whole way up tower.. FWP1 is probably directly behind but ive moved it north so you can see it. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126melbournediagramelevationfromeast-med.jpg uewepuep February 8th, 2004, 01:42 AM Good work Cul! i tried a rendering but Its not as accurate as yours! Ahh im so lazy :D http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/hacksaw21%20copy.jpg http://melbournephotos.gotdns.com/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/ciaobellaxo%20copy.jpg Its really part of my Victorian agenda to make Eureka look taller than it is. lol Anyone want an anaglyph? :D :D :D :D ciaobellaxo February 8th, 2004, 02:24 AM Bloody hell uewepuep, if they're lazy renders I'd hate to see them full strengh ;) Great job!! And BTW, considering where the core is now (it's about 9 stories over half way), I don't think the top of your render would be far off what will be the eventual height! Looking at your Swan St render, you'd have to be blind to miss the big E when the core is eventually topped out let alone when it's completed. What an imposing sight it will be :guns1: :guns1: :guns1: CULWULLA February 8th, 2004, 04:05 AM great job dan! i reckon its pretty close as to waht big E will be, maybe slightly lower but not much! my diagram is exact heights so in reality E would look higher because of the perspective the pic was taken from.So yours is pretty close.Its going to look awesome with FWP1! lots of glass between them. joed February 12th, 2004, 09:32 AM On the way home i noticed that the crain on the core had risen. Can anyone confirm this? James. kasperluke February 12th, 2004, 10:44 AM Originally posted by joed On the way home i noticed that the crain on the core had risen. Can anyone confirm this? James. Well it hadn't risen when I left the city at 3? So it might have been done after that!? I can't tell on the webcam right now either. Also on another point...the core arm on the floor plates was going today...do they use it for anything other then a floor pour? Aussie Steve February 12th, 2004, 11:18 PM Yep, crane gone up again. joed February 13th, 2004, 12:21 AM Yay :D Just looked out the office window. ciaobellaxo February 13th, 2004, 08:44 AM Pretty big crane rise too! How far are we away from the reconfig Cul? CULWULLA February 13th, 2004, 12:22 PM Originally posted by ciaobellaxo Pretty big crane rise too! How far are we away from the reconfig Cul? im pretty sure the next rise is the last of the "medium rise" section (level54/55).So this is where the west wing terminates! at 176m high.So iqguess the core will reduce in size which will take a week or so. The core should take just a little quicker to pour and rise due to the new smaller core. From level 56 up, it consists of 9 floors in "highrise" section. then the east wing stops at lev64/205m high. Then the centre "skyrise" section rises 16 floors until the gold bar crown which consists of 7 public levels. Then atop that are 3 floors -plant/LMR/BMU ect.. :) CULWULLA February 14th, 2004, 05:29 AM on the lss webacm ive noticed the crane is fuly strectched and nearly pops out of view. since latest crane rise i think the tip of crane is now approx 178m +15mrise +45m crane = 238m high! tayser February 14th, 2004, 12:19 PM http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/eureka/eureka1402041.jpg http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/40degrees27.jpg http://metropolis.tayser.net/projects/southbank/eureka/eureka1402042.jpg barneybuck February 14th, 2004, 01:06 PM The big E is really starting to stand out you can seeit easily from the Myer Music bowl and from the western side streets off St Kilda Road. It is going to dominate Melbournes skyline like no other building as Cul has suggested. kasperluke February 15th, 2004, 02:08 AM Speaking of crane rises it looks as if the lower crane has had a huge rise?? Have a look at the LSS webcam.. Great pics Tays! You really need to zoom don't you.... *jealous of optical zoom* A-brain February 15th, 2004, 01:13 PM Regarding the next reconfig.. here's a re-paste of what I posted a couple of weeks back (Skip #1, we are at #2, read on from there) ------------------ After the next rise the 2nd & final core reconfig is ready to happen - here should be the order of events (based on the last reconfig): 1. Core Pour this Thursday, followed by Rise on Monday 2nd Feb exposing 52-53 2. Two weeks later (Mid Feb), core pour for Level 54-55 3. Instead of immediately rising, a week or two later (End Feb) the West Wall of the Core Box is removed, exposing part of 54-55 4. Next day, the core box (partly disassembled) rises, fully exposing 54-55. Then the narrowed West Side is reassembled. 5. Next Pour & Rise with the new narrowed box happens Mid-March, to expose 56-57. ----------- In other words, a core pour is due any day now, but instead of rising straight away expect to wait up to a couple of weeks for a big reconfig ... JayT February 16th, 2004, 10:06 AM Originally posted by A-brain Regarding the next reconfig.. here's a re-paste of what I posted a couple of weeks back (Skip #1, we are at #2, read on from there) ------------------ After the next rise the 2nd & final core reconfig is ready to happen - here should be the order of events (based on the last reconfig): 1. Core Pour this Thursday, followed by Rise on Monday 2nd Feb exposing 52-53 2. Two weeks later (Mid Feb), core pour for Level 54-55 3. Instead of immediately rising, a week or two later (End Feb) the West Wall of the Core Box is removed, exposing part of 54-55 4. Next day, the core box (partly disassembled) rises, fully exposing 54-55. Then the narrowed West Side is reassembled. 5. Next Pour & Rise with the new narrowed box happens Mid-March, to expose 56-57. ----------- In other words, a core pour is due any day now, but instead of rising straight away expect to wait up to a couple of weeks for a big reconfig ... I have to hand it to you Melburnians, you are probably the most passionate skyscraper freaks in Australia. Most people (from Brisbane anyhow) wouldn't even know when a concrete pour was occuring or when a crane rise was happening. I must take more notice of these things in the future as I never look. jt |