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rantanamo
April 28th, 2005, 09:40 AM
NFL
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Dallas_Cowboys.svg/100px-Dallas_Cowboys.svg.png
Dallas Cowboys

5x Champion:
1971, 1977, 1992, 1993, 1995



Home of the Dallas Cowboys

I thought I'd take a break from the numerous new venues to show an obsolete venue that will be replaced by the next world's greatest stadium

Texas Stadium is old and ugly. Pure 70's with no attempt to make it any better looking. No glass, no brick, no stucko, no nothing. Just concrete brutalism
http://img82.echo.cx/img82/516/218717422wejyozph5ml.jpg
http://img257.echo.cx/img257/5347/57438103uselsdfs1cz.jpg


The roof is much more extensive than you usually find on roofed stadiums. It may look like an unfinished retractable roof. The truth is(despite many other wild stories and rumors) is that this is exactly what it was. And in 1971 at that. The problem was budget over runs. You'll also find four scoreboards attached to the roof(2 scoreboards, 2 huge video screens)

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/2641/vacation200314kp.jpg

Inside, Texas Stadium is one of the most efficient yet most luxurious stadiums in the world.
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/1705/vacation200427mg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)


There is a world record of 381 luxury suites(second is FedEx Field at 294) that ring the stadium 4 times. This includes two huge club areas behind each endzone. During the pre-cap era this huge number of suites as well as unique sponsorhips allowed the Cowboys a huge salary advantage allowing the Cowboys to be one of the winningest franchises in NFL history. Today in the cap-era, it makes Jerry Jones the most prosperous owner in the NFL with the world's 4th most valuable sports franchise.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/1213/214525086mldhhyfs0wf.jpg
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/3377/240867276xeutvkfs4bz.jpg
http://img246.echo.cx/img246/7307/214525397wlmvhofs1kp.jpg



With the late 90s early 2000s crop of modern NFL venue, Texas Stadium began to feel obsolete. Renovation was considered, but a new stadium was decided upon. Next year, the world's most expensive stadium will begin construction in the DFW suburb of Arlington. The development will total $1.5 billion and seat 75,000 normally with an expansion system allowing 100,000 individual seats for large events like the World Cup or Superbowl. The stadium will also feature retractable roof and end walls
http://www.sfo.com/~csuppes/NFL/DallasCowboys/newaerial.gifhttp://www.wfaa.com/s/dws/img/04-04/0430stadium.jpghttp://images.ibsys.com/2004/0608/3397138_200X150.jpg

pwright1
April 28th, 2005, 10:44 AM
I remember the day Texas Stadium opened. It was the most modern stadium with all the luxury suites. It put the Astrodome to shame. The Cowboys were the elite team back then. Winning records, beautiful stadium, beautiful cheerleaders whom everybody copied. Everybody use to dress up to go see the Cowboys. That horrible Miller Lite sign in the endzone use to display different animations. I wish they would bring that back. The new stadium looks nice but its already ruined being in Arlington. What a shame. Jerry Jones might have lots of money but he still reminds me of someone from a trashy trailer park. Cowboy fans never forget the way he handled the Tom Landry firing. He still gets booed. Nice pics by the way. I love the Cowboys. Always have and always will.

empersouf
April 28th, 2005, 03:26 PM
They stadium looks huge, but it's ugly.

Morten M
April 28th, 2005, 03:58 PM
There is a world record of 381 luxury suites(second is FedEx Field at 294) that ring the stadium 4 times. This includes two huge club areas behind each endzone.

Is it possible to compare these numbers of luxuary suites? Because there is not "a standard size" suite, for an example could the suites in Feedex be twice as big (I don't know if they are). It would be better if the number was "suite capacity" in number of spectators or the amount of suite square meters.

rantanamo
April 28th, 2005, 08:58 PM
There is a standard minimum size of 400 sq ft, which is often waved for numbers close.

Texas Stadium's 381 suites are considered huge to small, but are among the most expensive in the league. Some going for over $300,000. That is incredible for an 8-12 game season at home and is more than the more expensive NFL And NBA suites. The largest ones seat 40+guests(fire code max) with the minimum at 400 sq ft, seating 8 + 10 guests. The largest and newest(3rd and 4th ring) are 1,155 sq ft
http://www.cpgs.com/Luxury_Suites/Suite-2-003.jpg
http://www.cpgs.com/Luxury_Suites/Suite-2-001.jpg
http://www.cpgs.com/Luxury_Suites/Suite-2-007.jpg


Lambeau Field by comparison(The only other with suite sizes I could find has 166 with a max of 2,300 seats for 13.2 seats per suite. The largest seats 30 at 814 square feet( a decent one room apt). The smallest 388 sq ft at 20

Texas Stadium doesn't have more because they are cramped into a smaller space. They have more because there are 4 complete rings of them, compared to 1 in most outside the US., enough for 2 in some and a rare 3 in places like the Georgia Dome or FedEx

What Texas Stadium does lack are the large atrium areas and club seating that new stadiums enjoy, and is why it will be replaced by Cowboys Park.

PHXbevo
April 28th, 2005, 09:17 PM
actually, this is not the reason that there is a hole in the roof. Any NFL fan/Christian will know why :)

TexasBoi
April 28th, 2005, 10:26 PM
yes the hole in the roof is there for GOD to look down to watch his favorite team play there home games tehre on Sundays and 1 thursday out of the year :)

rantanamo
April 28th, 2005, 10:36 PM
LOL. While researching the why, many answers were given. A Cowboys linebacker named D.D. Lewis(not the former horn) came up with the God looking down comment. Some thought it was for audience cover. Some thought it was to create swirling winds(which it did before the top two suite rings were built). Some thought it was part of a shade/cooling system, though the best DFW weather is during football season. The real answer is apparently a four piece retractable roof. 1 panel from each sideline and 1 from each endzone. Would have been very interesting if they pulled it off, and at the same time was the main reason that renovation was pretty much out of the question. The roof would have to be destroyed and rebuilt if seating was expanded.

rantanamo
April 29th, 2005, 11:49 PM
The location of Texas Stadium is actually 1 mile due south of the population center of the metroplex and is much more accessible to the whole metroplex, as would downtown Dallas be because of the freeway and public transit each have. Arlington only has two bad stretches of freeway close to the stadium, and Arlington also has no rail or bus, and the stadium will be located even further south than Ameriquest Field. That will mean a ton of traffic on regular suburban type streets. The AAC is a much more accessible venue than either of the Arlington Stadiums, and already has/definitely will have much more human scale activity around them. If Arlington would just join DART and do something nice with the stadium surroundings, most wouldn't complain, but they have been the most suburban suburb in the metroplex. Voting down anything remotely urban, though voting for two stadiums and a new suburban mall in the last 15 years.

Roekie
August 17th, 2005, 12:53 PM
me liky vely much !!!!

GNU
August 17th, 2005, 01:31 PM
I like it.Looks great!!

Love the interior,but the outside looks kinda cheap

40Acres
August 18th, 2005, 04:19 AM
and for us Texas fans, its like the Roman Collessium, where we play the Christians, and oklahoma play the lions. :(

f ou

flagship
August 19th, 2005, 01:49 AM
I had no idea they were building a new stadium.

Seems kind of stupid.

The stadium they have now is quite nice, plus it has more than enough luxury boxes to generate big revenue.

At least they are putting the stadium in the suburbs,which is where ALL football stadiums belong.

Still, I wish they just kept this stadium.

EADGBE
February 1st, 2007, 12:01 AM
I've seen one but I can't find it now! This is the closest I can find but the one I saw was an aerial shot and the new stadium construction was much more advanced:

http://www.skmconsulting.com/NR/rdonlyres/7C8EC5AE-D5AE-49CC-BCDA-E03B5878998C/0/Benfica.gif

I'll keep looking...

Aka
February 1st, 2007, 01:40 AM
??/02/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Fevereiro2002.jpg

??/03/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Marco2002.jpg

??/06/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Junho2002.jpg

??/07/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Julho2002.jpg

??/08/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Julho2002.jpg

26/08/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//obrasdanovaluz01.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//obrasnovaluz02.jpg

??/10/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Outubro2002.jpg

??/11/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Novembro2002.jpg

24/11/2002:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//novaluz05.jpg

13/02/2003:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Imag13.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//PICT0260.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//PICT0261.jpg

Goodbye to old stadium, 22(23 and thereafter)/03/2003:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//fotoluzantes-depois01.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//096.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//095.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//aguiademolida1.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//luzmaio1.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//luzmaio3.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//luzmaio7.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//luzmaio11.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//luzmaio13.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//novaluzfev02.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//pict0351.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//pict0352.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//digitalizar0022hm.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//digitalizar0023hm.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//pict0369.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//pict0372.jpg

The Great One turned into dust:
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//1.jpg


I guess this is what you want.

Nils
February 2nd, 2007, 04:15 PM
@Aka

Thanx. Great collection.

Arpels
February 2nd, 2007, 04:16 PM
nice Aka, I dont have even one pic of the old stadium :(

Pelha
February 3rd, 2007, 12:36 AM
nice Aka, I dont have even one pic of the old stadium :(

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/561/luz51zc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

;)

Arpels
February 3rd, 2007, 02:33 AM
:) thanks, that one goes directly to mi album to remember the old stadium...

skaP187
February 3rd, 2007, 01:24 PM
Yep I like the new stadium a lot, but I still prefer the old one.
Wasn't it that it once had a cap. of 120 000 like Camp Nou or is that a wild west story, Great old stadium, why did it have to go? too big?

SkyLerm
February 3rd, 2007, 01:34 PM
Great recopilation of pics!
I think the old one had that capacity skaP :yes:

Nikom
February 4th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Yep I like the new stadium a lot, but I still prefer the old one.
Wasn't it that it once had a cap. of 120 000 like Camp Nou or is that a wild west story, Great old stadium, why did it have to go? too big?

No,it was something around 77.000 ;)

Aka
February 4th, 2007, 11:44 PM
No,it was something around 77.000 ;)

Wrong, Nikom. Luz had a capacity of 120.000 when it had no seats on the 2nd and 3rd tiers. 92.385 when they added seats to the 2nd tier. Finally, 80.000 all-seated (although there were 90.000 attending against Boavista).

130.000 spectators were at Luz during the 1991 U20 World Cup final.

stadiumfuture
February 5th, 2007, 12:52 AM
Estadio da Luz
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz3.jpg

stadiumfuture
February 5th, 2007, 01:08 AM
Estadio da Luz
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz4.jpg

skaP187
February 7th, 2007, 11:44 AM
These photos make me think of starting another thread. it was a great stadium, one of my favourites stadiums big time!

O Alemao
February 28th, 2007, 02:13 PM
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//aguiademolida1.jpg

LOL...

BTW very nice collected!!

Aka
February 28th, 2007, 10:31 PM
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//aguiademolida1.jpg

LOL...

BTW very nice collected!!

By the way, it's the same:

http://phdragani.zip.net/images/Estluz3.jpg

She went to the beach. :D

Nikom
March 2nd, 2007, 09:15 PM
Wrong, Nikom. Luz had a capacity of 120.000 when it had no seats on the 2nd and 3rd tiers. 92.385 when they added seats to the 2nd tier. Finally, 80.000 all-seated (although there were 90.000 attending against Boavista).

130.000 spectators were at Luz during the 1991 U20 World Cup final.

At World Stadiums (http://worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/past_stadiums.shtml) the old Luz Stadium has 77.000 seats ;)

Aka
March 2nd, 2007, 09:23 PM
At World Stadiums (http://worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/past_stadiums.shtml) the old Luz Stadium has 77.000 seats ;)

At World Stadiums Luz was inaugurated in 1953 when actually it was in 1954. :D

Nikom
March 3rd, 2007, 03:19 PM
At World Stadiums Luz was inaugurated in 1953 when actually it was in 1954. :D

:nuts: :lol: :nuts:

Jim856796
November 15th, 2007, 02:49 PM
This is a thread for sports venues slated for demolition in the future. If a new stadium replaces an old one, then the old one would sometimes be slated for demolition.

Here is a list of sport venues to be demolished soon:

Tiger Stadium, Detroit
Yankee Stadium, New York City
Shea Stadium, New York City
Hoosier Dome, Indianapolis
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo
Rasunda Stadium, Stockholm

JimB
November 15th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Anfield (Liverpool).

Goodison Park (Everton).

Fratton Park (Portsmouth).

Also, no detailed plans as yet and not exactly imminent but both West Ham's Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) and Tottenham's White Hart Lane are due to be demolished (and rebuilt, possibly, in Tottenham's case) within the next few years - planning consent allowing.

www.sercan.de
November 15th, 2007, 05:33 PM
Ali Sami Yen (New Stadium will be built in another area)

Vermeer
November 15th, 2007, 06:27 PM
Holmenkollen Ski Jumping Hill, Oslo will be demolished next year to give room for a new and more modern hill. Holmenkollen Ski Jumping Hill is the most visited tourist attraction in Norway anfd the Olympic venue with the biggest crowc ever (150.000).

Old Hill

http://latinitas.org/phototheca/noruegia/australis/kollen.jpg


New Hill

http://a.beining.com/blog/uploaded_images/holmenkollen-701471.jpg

sapmi
November 15th, 2007, 10:34 PM
It's kinda sad that Råsunda is going to be demolished. Råsunda hosted the World cup final of 1958, and Pelé, 17 years old at the time, scored two goals in the final against Sweden. Brazil won (5-2).

From the final 1958:
Syncd5yq8o4

Råsunda today:
http://www.anatomic.se/bilder/rasunda.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/453034532_6ab06bfdb9.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/265252106_540a6156a7.jpg?v=0
http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/250/518657897_540edb416b.jpg?v=0
Ronaldinho at Råsunda :)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/916418904_7f5c13feaf.jpg?v=0


Good old Råsunda, we'll miss you! :cry::cry: :wave:

masterpaul
November 16th, 2007, 04:34 PM
Legia, Warsaw stadium will the demolished and a new one will be built.

National Stadium of Poland (Warsaw) will the demolished and a new one will be built next to it.

skaP187
November 19th, 2007, 12:11 AM
Do the stadiums have to be demolished in the future, or are the ones from the passed also okay with you topicstarter?

skaP187
November 19th, 2007, 12:18 AM
Mestella, Valencia CF

http://i10.tinypic.com/6wpuvd2.jpg

NeilF
November 19th, 2007, 04:56 AM
It's kinda sad that Råsunda is going to be demolished.

Agreed - I find something strangely beautiful about this stadium, even if it is, by current standards, fairly dated. I really only took notice of it recently (during Northern Ireland's fine 1 - 1 draw in Sweden), so it's sad to find that demolition is planned. In the 1st, 2nd and 4th pictures, you can see a tower overlooking the stadium - is this anything to do with the stadium or a seperate, nearby, building?

Wezza
November 19th, 2007, 10:01 AM
I also like the Råsunda stadium, it's got that intimate appeal to it or something!

eMKay
November 20th, 2007, 05:20 AM
:(

There will never be another quite like it, the incredible pitch of the oranges, the cigarette butt like acoustic dampers, the balloons stuck in the rafters for years, the way the boards would shake and ripple from hits and fans banging on them, and the noise! No huge modern building can contain sound like that.

I will post lots of pictures of the demolition, and I will get souvenirs.

http://www.emkayusa.com/misc/aud01s.jpg

http://www.emkayusa.com/misc/oranges.jpg

The last goal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaZsk03TMhg

Closing ceremony...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q52hfTtyzHs

Memories montage by local TV station...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IeYXKSGpkE

Bobby3
November 20th, 2007, 09:48 AM
I hate to see a venue like that go.

Of Charlotte's current 2 big arenas, when you walk into the old one (1955) you know you're at a sports venue. The other one (2005) could be mistaken for a theater.

Wezza
November 20th, 2007, 10:12 AM
What arena is that?

city_thing
November 20th, 2007, 02:08 PM
Subiaco Oval in Perth. It should have been torn down years ago.

http://www.statravel.com.au/static/external_content_web_live/assets/LP_BN15273_2.jpg

eMKay
November 20th, 2007, 04:11 PM
What arena is that?

Buffalo Memorial Auditorium

yyyves
November 20th, 2007, 04:55 PM
Parkstadion Gelsenkirchen former home of schalke 04 is going to be demolished in 2008, and 2 new Trainingsites including a small stadium for 10.000 poeple us going to be build instead...

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/2007/11/20/schalke-schrott/ze-roberto-streit,geo=3003598.html


Parkstadion :

http://www.schalke-fuer-sammler.de/stadionpostkarten/parkstadion/bilder_parkstadion/park_5.jpg

more pictures on the same webadress i found this pic on..

http://www.schalke-fuer-sammler.de/stadionpostkarten/parkstadion/parkstadion.html

sapmi
November 20th, 2007, 05:14 PM
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium
Sad! It looks very intimate and the tiers are steep.

sapmi
November 20th, 2007, 05:28 PM
In the 1st, 2nd and 4th pictures, you can see a tower overlooking the stadium - is this anything to do with the stadium or a separate, nearby, building?
Well it was built when the stadium was renovated in the 80s but I don't think it has anything special to do with the stadium. It is just an office house for different companies. It's often called "the Dallas house" btw, for it's American architecture and because the TV show "Dallas" was broadcast in Sweden when it was built. :) The building will be saved when the arena is being demolished.

eMKay
November 21st, 2007, 12:03 AM
Parkstadion Gelsenkirchen former home of schalke 04 is going to be demolished in 2008, and 2 new Trainingsites including a small stadium for 10.000 poeple us going to be build instead...



Demolished? They could just fill the hole in with dirt and go have a :cheers:

Bobby3
November 21st, 2007, 02:35 AM
Parkstadion Gelsenkirchen former home of schalke 04 is going to be demolished in 2008, and 2 new Trainingsites including a small stadium for 10.000 poeple us going to be build instead...

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/sport/bundesliga/vereine/schalke/2007/11/20/schalke-schrott/ze-roberto-streit,geo=3003598.html


Parkstadion :

http://www.schalke-fuer-sammler.de/stadionpostkarten/parkstadion/bilder_parkstadion/park_5.jpg

more pictures on the same webadress i found this pic on..

http://www.schalke-fuer-sammler.de/stadionpostkarten/parkstadion/parkstadion.html

What's it currently used for, Schalke II?

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 02:58 PM
Newlands Stadium, Cape Town - possibly demolished by 2010

http://rushonect.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/newlandsstadium.jpg.w300h253.jpg
http://www.cherryflava.com/pics/images/stormers07.jpg

CharlieP
November 23rd, 2007, 04:10 PM
Newlands Stadium, Cape Town - possibly demolished by 2010

WHAT?!?!?!?

GNU
November 23rd, 2007, 04:19 PM
looks pretty decent. Why would they demolish it?

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
looks pretty decent. Why would they demolish it?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/501211650_dd49b8705a_o.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/CTstadium.jpg

CharlieP
November 23rd, 2007, 05:30 PM
Looks like a fantastic venue for Tests and major Super 14 fixtures, but seems a bit on the large side for Currie Cup games...

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 05:39 PM
Looks like a fantastic venue for Tests and major Super 14 fixtures, but seems a bit on the large side for Currie Cup games...

68,000 world cup mode
55,000 post world cup mode

conference/office space on upper tier, panoramic views across cape town.
stadium operator to be finalized march 2008. emirates stadium cape town? lol

Lydon
November 23rd, 2007, 05:46 PM
They can't demolish Newlands :(

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 05:50 PM
They can't demolish Newlands :(

if ure a bankrupt rugby union u can.
they could do what arsenal did with highbury and integrate the stadium struture with an office park.

Jim856796
November 23rd, 2007, 08:17 PM
Newlands Stadium, Cape Town - possibly demolished by 2010

http://rushonect.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/newlandsstadium.jpg.w300h253.jpg
http://www.cherryflava.com/pics/images/stormers07.jpg

Why the fudge would you want the Newlands Stadium destroyed? Either there will be no suitable use for it after the Green-Point stadium opens or it's just a death threat. If the stadium gets demolished, the nearby cricket ground gets torn down as well.

canarywondergod
November 23rd, 2007, 08:21 PM
is the entire top tier going to be reduced?it seems to be bigger than 13,000 seats!or is it just the top part of the end tiers that are going?ive been searching of a picture but to no luck..

EDIT: Just seen the section plans and the top tier is 23,000 so some seats will remain, but where?

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 08:37 PM
Why the fudge would you want the Newlands Stadium destroyed? Either there will be no suitable use for it after the Green-Point stadium opens or it's just a death threat. If the stadium gets demolished, the nearby cricket ground gets torn down as well.

why does the cricket stadium get torn down?

WP Rugby are bankrupt. Selling the land, becoming the richest rugby club in the country and moving into the green point stadium.

@ canary: Some seats in the top tier will remain.

Mo Rush
November 23rd, 2007, 08:39 PM
is the entire top tier going to be reduced?it seems to be bigger than 13,000 seats!or is it just the top part of the end tiers that are going?ive been searching of a picture but to no luck..

EDIT: Just seen the section plans and the top tier is 23,000 so some seats will remain, but where?

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/temporary1.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/temporary2.jpg

C.M.
November 23rd, 2007, 09:29 PM
is the entire top tier going to be reduced?it seems to be bigger than 13,000 seats!or is it just the top part of the end tiers that are going?ive been searching of a picture but to no luck..

EDIT: Just seen the section plans and the top tier is 23,000 so some seats will remain, but where?


Newlands is a 51000 seat stadium. It is about 127 years old having had many face lifts over the decades, today it is really looking great for an old lady. It will be a very sad day if it is reduced to rubble to ensure that the new stadium in Cape Town does not become a waste.


http://forums.sidheinteractive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2038&stc=1&d=1150072350

Mo Rush
November 24th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Newlands is a 51000 seat stadium. It is about 127 years old having had many face lifts over the decades, today it is really looking great for an old lady. It will be a very sad day if it is reduced to rubble to ensure that the new stadium in Cape Town does not become a waste.


http://forums.sidheinteractive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2038&stc=1&d=1150072350

Well Cape Town cannot sustain two stadia and the WP Rugby Union are in a terrible financial state. The venue offers Cape Town no future in terms of expansion and its squeezed into a residential area with homes less than 5m away.

Personally I do not want to see it torn down, Id prefer if part of it remained as an urban park or smaller stadium. But to get the full commercial value of the venue it will prob be sold for any purpose.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/image006.jpg

Calvin W
November 24th, 2007, 02:23 AM
There is no direct link stating demolition will occur. This is current nothing more than a rumor. Every stadium including the new one being built in Cape Town will eventually be demolished. Just a matter of time.

Mo Rush
November 24th, 2007, 02:37 AM
There is no direct link stating demolition will occur. This is current nothing more than a rumor. Every stadium including the new one being built in Cape Town will eventually be demolished. Just a matter of time.

Sure.

However, WP Rugby and Investec bid to operate the new Green Point Stadium.
Therefore they will move to the Green Point stadium if their bid is succesful.

To move to the new stadium they will need to sell the land of the old stadium which they own to become somewhat solvent. What the new owner does with the land is up to them. Considering the high commercial value of the land in the area and its location. Its is highly likely that the stadium will be replaced with a commercial/residential building.

There are articles discussing the move of WP rugby to the new stadium and this move is made obvious by the bid to become the private operator of the new stadium.

skaP187
November 24th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Parkstadion :

http://www.schalke-fuer-sammler.de/stadionpostkarten/parkstadion/bilder_parkstadion/park_5.jpg


I don´t know why because eventhoug the atletic track I have always liked this stadium. Specialy with the steps and the players coming down from it.
I like it better then the current stadium of Schalke, which realy cannot match this classic mop.

skaP187
November 24th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Newlands is a 51000 seat stadium. It is about 127 years old having had many face lifts over the decades, today it is really looking great for an old lady. It will be a very sad day if it is reduced to rubble to ensure that the new stadium in Cape Town does not become a waste.


http://forums.sidheinteractive.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2038&stc=1&d=1150072350

I am getting sentimental, but I realy like the old SA stadiums. They are different from the Europeans in lay out, but seeme to be from a very high quality, specialy from the inside and that´s what realy matters to me.
i can understand people would not want a stadium like this to go.

C.M.
November 24th, 2007, 09:35 PM
The ABSA Stadium, Durban

http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/ABSA2.jpeg


This is an awesome 55000 seat stadium with 350 suites. The thing that I like most about this stadium is it steepness, this is true football stadium with an uncertain future.

This great stadiums may also get the wrecking ball one day to ensure that the new Durban stadium being built right next door has a future. The new stadium may look nice on the outside but it will have a running track and that is what makes it an ugly stadium to me.

Mo Rush
November 24th, 2007, 10:03 PM
The ABSA Stadium, Durban

http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/ABSA2.jpeg


This is an awesome 55000 seat stadium with 350 suites. The thing that I like most about this stadium is it steepness, this is true football stadium with an uncertain future.

This great stadiums may also get the wrecking ball one day to ensure that the new Durban stadium being built right next door has a future. The new stadium may look nice on the outside but it will have a running track and that is what makes it an ugly stadium to me.

Tennis at Durban Absa Stadium a possibilty

Durban's ABSA stadium - the home of the Super 14 Shark franchise - could become a tennis stadium or part of a "high performance centre", it was announced on Saturday.

Head of Strategic Projects at the eThekwini Municipality, Julie-May Ellingson, said the plan was for the 2010 Moses Mabhida Stadium to host rugby, soccer and athletics.

Speaking at a press conference at the International Convention Centre in Durban she said negotiations were continuing with the Sharks to get them to move to the Moses Mabhida Stadium, which is currently under construction.

While no final decision had been made, the area in which the Absa stadium was located would be a high performance centre which could be turned into a sports academy and a sports science centre, she said.

The plan was for Absa stadium to be "downscaled" and possibly become a tennis stadium.

Currently Durban's main tennis stadium - West Ridge Stadium - is on the other side of the city, several kilometres away from the city's planned sports precinct.

"Negotiations [with the Sharks] are going very well. We're offering the Sharks a world class stadium," Ellingson said.

She pointed out that Absa Stadium (formerly Kings Park Rugby Stadium) was a 65-year old stadium but that any decision for the Sharks to move, was theirs.

Feasibility studies on the high performance centre were being conducted.

Referring to the construction of the Moses Mabhida Stadium, she said that all the material from the demolished Kings Park Soccer Stadium had been re-used in the building of the new stadium.

Jim856796
November 25th, 2007, 03:05 AM
There is no direct link stating demolition will occur. This is current nothing more than a rumor. Every stadium including the new one being built in Cape Town will eventually be demolished. Just a matter of time.

Are you saying cape town won't have any stadiums at all in the future? because it would be a stupid idea to tear down a stadium that is currently under construction.

Mo Rush
November 25th, 2007, 03:22 AM
The need for Newlands will become hard to motivate.

Athlone Stadium 40,000 - football
final design:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/441942381_1a2deaa7d9.jpg

phase 1 complete:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Athlonestadiuma.jpg?t=1195953592

construction final phase:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Photo00221.jpg

Green Point Stadium 68,000 - rugby/football/major concerts

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/CTstadium2.jpg

Jim856796
November 28th, 2007, 07:25 AM
The Vicente Calderon Stadium in Madrid, spain was scheduled for demolition because it suffers from aluminosis.

AndreÇB
November 28th, 2007, 09:40 AM
Estádio Octávio Mangabeira (aka Fonte Nova)
Capacity: 62,000
Built: 1951
Location: Salvador - Brazil

Will be demolished due to its poor and old infrastructure and its good location in the city. The area probably will be site for a new WC 2014 stadium.

http://mavalem.sites.uol.com.br/ba/FonteNova.jpg
.
http://mavalem.sites.uol.com.br/ba/FonteNova1.jpg
.
http://www.lancenet.com.br/especiais/estadios/fotos/fonte-nova.jpg
.
http://mavalem.sites.uol.com.br/ba/FonteNova2.jpg

Recently happened a big tragedy, when part of the stands broke sown, killing 7.

Jim856796
December 8th, 2007, 05:35 AM
The Dongdaemun Baseball Stadium in Seoul may be demolished because it is getting replaced by a new domed baseball stadium.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/south_korea/seoul/seoul_dongdaemunbas.jpg

Calvin W
December 8th, 2007, 08:11 AM
Are you saying cape town won't have any stadiums at all in the future? because it would be a stupid idea to tear down a stadium that is currently under construction.

Read what I said, EVERY thing is eventually demolished, today, tomorrow, a thousand years from now, eventually. Not saying Capetown will be without stadiums in the future.

Jim856796
January 1st, 2008, 08:36 AM
The Miami Orange Bowl is slated for demolition soon. The stadium will be closed on January 5, then it will be stripped and the pieces of the stadium will be sold by Mounted Memories.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/florida/miami_orange1.jpg

coexist
January 1st, 2008, 09:01 AM
Well, as of midnight tonight, we are now in the final year of Yankee Stadium. By the end of 2008, Yankee Stadium will already have begun being stripped of its seats and memorabilia.

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/yankee-stadium-address.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Yankee_stadium_exterior.jpg/800px-Yankee_stadium_exterior.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/0/n/S/IMG_0395.jpg

http://www.sense-of-place.com/public/images_upload/yankee-stadium-20061.jpg

eMKay
January 2nd, 2008, 01:32 AM
I hope New Yankee Stadium does the old park justice, I despise the team, but respect the history and love that ballpark. I'm going to have to make it to a game there this year, I've never been there, I've been to Shea (yawn)

nyrmetros
January 2nd, 2008, 06:29 AM
I miss the Aud. What a great building for Friday night hockey between the Rangers and Sabres.

BobDaBuilder
January 2nd, 2008, 12:39 PM
VFL Park in Mulgrave, (aka Waverley/The Death Star/Battestar Galactica), cap. 78,000 seats, record attendance 92,000(before H&S went over the top), south east of Melbourne has been demolished to make way for a suburb in the last few years. This was a disgrace and has robbed a large part of the S/E of easy access to watch football.

It was a fault of the short term vision of numerous governments refusing to build a rail line out that way and it is now crying out for one more than ever.

Also the greed of the league largely influenced the decision.

Now we have lots of 'football money' pouring into the coffers of private persons and other organizations such as the Melbourne Cricket Club. Building the place was the entire reason why they wanted football money to stay with football and to make the sport accessible and cheap.

Greed and the influence won in the end.

lpioe
January 2nd, 2008, 12:46 PM
Hardturm stadium in Zurich will be demolished.

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/SUI/Hardturm6.jpg

It looks a lot worse now, fans could take souvenir like seats etc after the last league game in September and it hasn't been maintained since then.

A new stadium will be built on the same site, but it's not sure when yet.
At the moment, Hardturm stadium is unused, both Clubs of Zurich play at the new Letzigrund.

zfreeman
January 3rd, 2008, 04:28 PM
They want to build a new stadium for West Ham close to the Underground Station at West Ham the site is currently occupied by gas storage tanks and a mail depot that is currently being demolished.

There are plans to close Brisbane Road (Leyton Orient) if they decide to move to the Olympic Stadium (in legacy mode), since Brisbane Road is owned by the local council their lease is up for renegotiation in a few years time.

sibyl-vane
January 4th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Parkstadion in Gelsenkirchen-Schalke is to be demolished completely next week. It hasn't been used as a Bundesliga venue since they built Arena Auf Schalke in 2001.
Parkstadion was erected in 1973 with a capacity of mora than 70.000. It was used by Schalke 04 and for World Cup 1974 and Euro 1988.
Nevertheless it has never been considered as a particularly beautiful or good stadium, it was functional but that's all. That's why one won't see too many tears when the stadium is demolished. Schalke 04 intends to build a 10.000 stadium for their second team (4th division right now) and training pitches instead.

On http://www.parkstadion-fotos.de.vu/ you can find tons of pictures...

GNU
January 4th, 2008, 02:14 PM
The ABSA Stadium, Durban

http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/ABSA2.jpeg


This is an awesome 55000 seat stadium with 350 suites. The thing that I like most about this stadium is it steepness, this is true football stadium with an uncertain future.

This great stadiums may also get the wrecking ball one day to ensure that the new Durban stadium being built right next door has a future. The new stadium may look nice on the outside but it will have a running track and that is what makes it an ugly stadium to me.

Bit of a shame really that these decent looking venues are being brought down.

GNU
January 9th, 2008, 02:44 PM
Pic of the old Parkstadion, December 07

http://www.schalke04.de/fileadmin/user_upload/medialib/Fotos_News_0708/080102_panorama.jpg

Chimaera
January 9th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Bit of a shame really that these decent looking venues are being brought down.Agree, South Africa already has several unique soccer/rugby specific stadiums such as Ellis Park, Loftus Versfeld, ABSA, Newlands. One could also add the former FNB stadium, which has more of an American feel to it. So, of these 5 only Ellis Park and Loftus Versfeld will remain?

rantanamo
February 16th, 2008, 12:13 AM
One more season to go in the old bird. Lots of memories.

Dallasbrink
February 16th, 2008, 12:49 AM
Im making an homage trip to Texas stadium in 2009 when they demolish her. This might be an ugly stadium, but when you walk in there, you know you are about to see FOOTBALL! Texas Stadium just feels of tradition when you enter it.

TU 'cane
February 17th, 2008, 05:08 AM
I think i'm going to cry when they tear it down. :ohno:

Jim856796
February 17th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Wikipedia said Texas Stadium is structurally independent from the stadium it covers. It is unknown what the facility will be turned into.

Dallasbrink
February 17th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Wikipedia said Texas Stadium is structurally independent from the stadium it covers. It is unknown what the facility will be turned into.

it has already been announced, wikipedia needs to be updated. Texas stadium will be torn down for a new mixed use development.

Jim856796
February 17th, 2008, 02:27 PM
So does that mean the roof will be torn down as well? If yes, then that will suck eggs.

rantanamo
February 17th, 2008, 10:41 PM
Some of the proposals keep the roof. Some don't

Dallasbrink
February 19th, 2008, 12:00 AM
the final plan for this site is a shopping center.


It is going to suck to see her go, but Irving has no need to keep a stadium that old or that expensive.

Jim856796
March 11th, 2008, 04:42 AM
It is currently unknown what will be done to the Robert Francis Kennedy Memorial Stadium once the DC United soccer team leaves the venue. Also, the Reunion Arena in Dallas may be torn down in the near future.

Durbsboi
March 11th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Im gonna miss this stadium, shes such a beauty, I watched the new stand go up before the 95 RWC.

http://i26.tinypic.com/15yhpvq.jpg

2005
March 11th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Pictures of the stadiums that will most defo be knocked down in England.

Anfield, capacity 45400
Liverpool Football Club
http://www.liverpoolinpictures.com/Images/anfield_aerial_view.jpg
Most probably one of the most famous stand in the World, The Kop.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Anfield_The_Kop_2005-01-15.JPG/800px-Anfield_The_Kop_2005-01-15.JPG
Rest of the stadum, on matchday.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42790000/jpg/_42790029_kop416.jpg

Replacement
New Anfield, capacity 71,000
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5041/newanfieldsouthwestph0.jpg


Goodison Park, capacity 40569
Everton Football Club
Location Liverpool
http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/7/c1/0,,10268~3064071,00.jpg
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/north_west/liverpool_goodison_park2.jpg
http://www.sunwing.co.jp/MatchOfTheDay/stadium/s-GoodisonPark.jpg

No final decision has been made on the replacement, the clubs first option at the moment is this 50,000 capacity stadium outside of Liverpool.
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/jul2007/1/1/E3542157-9361-62FF-FE74E6397EBF93B7.jpg

Fratton Park, capacity 20,288
Portsmouth Football
Location, Portsmouth
http://www.philbrace.com/Aerial%20Pics%20Web%20Site/HA12%20-%20Fratton%20&%20Fratton%20Park%202.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/Ports33.jpg

Replacement, at Portsmouth Harbour, capacity 36,000.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_02/PompyStadium3_468x306.jpg
http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2007/04/27/portsmouth_football.jpg

White Hart Lane, capacity 36310
Tottenham Hotspur Foootball Club
Location, London

http://www.footballpictures.net/data/media/44/White_Hart_Lane.jpg
http://www.msmobilenews.com/uploads/2006/04/whl.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/spurs40.jpg
http://www.spurs.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/a5/c1/0,,10282~3326373,00.jpg

A decision will be announced in June of this year. The club have announced that they have indetified sites in North London, including White Hart Lane, that will be suitable for a new stadium. The smallest capacity rumoured has been 50,000 whilst highest has been 60,000. The club have given away nothing but they are looking at a high capacity, whilst keeping their lips sealed on the design, where it will be built and the capacity they have said that they have 25,000 season ticket holders and another 20,000+ on the season ticket waiting list plus a wharehouse load of members, very impressive for a club who has only finished in the top 5 twice and won two Leage Cups in the past 15 years.

Possible demolishment.
Boleyn Ground, capacity 35647
West Ham United Football Club.
Location, London

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/united_kingdom/england/london/london_boleyn1.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/westham29.jpg

There has been a lot of ruomours of late but no confirmation from the club as to what they will do. The origanal plan was the knock down the smallest stand and rebuild it, taking the capacity up to 40,600. The problem for West Ham is the fact that their quite land locked, so 40,000 will be the highest capacity they'll most probably have and the transport is pretty poor. The rumour is they are finding a site to build a new stadium.

Bobby3
March 11th, 2008, 05:17 PM
Where would Spurs play if they choose to build on the current land? Surely Wembley since I can't see them sharing with Arsenal or West Ham due to the bitterness between them.

2005
March 11th, 2008, 08:15 PM
I keep reading that Wembley isn't an option.

As for the other options it's hard to say, I won't lie when I say Spurs are by far the most hated club in London, the rivalry with Arsenal has been going on since just after WW1, Chelsea have said that we're their arch rivals four about forty years and West Ham have hated us for the past 15 years, and now say they hate us more than anyone. If I had a choice out of which three we would groundshare with I would most probably say Arsenal, if we shared with West Ham then there would fighting all the time. Chelsea is over ten miles away and is a trek and a half. Anyway, like I said, we'll find out in June.

veronika
March 11th, 2008, 10:21 PM
Correct me if I am wrong anyone but I think they will only be able to partially demolish fratton park and goodison park due to the remaining Archibald leitch stands at those grounds. Spurs has one also but was already renovated before leitch preservation orders came into force, so a tesco can be erected there no problem!
Also was in London a couple of weeks back in a book store and found a real gem, an archibald leitch book! 100% dedicated to the godfather of modern stadium design!
(i said modern stadia design, so please dont batter me like last time with the coliseum etc from 2000 years ago!) I appreciate they were the godfathers of original arenas.

Loranga
March 12th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Råsunda (Solna, Stockholm, Sweden) will soon be demolished.

Gid
March 12th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Singapore's National Stadium will soon make way for the Sports Hub

Bobby3
March 12th, 2008, 07:04 PM
I keep reading that Wembley isn't an option.

As for the other options it's hard to say, I won't lie when I say Spurs are by far the most hated club in London, the rivalry with Arsenal has been going on since just after WW1, Chelsea have said that we're their arch rivals four about forty years and West Ham have hated us for the past 15 years, and now say they hate us more than anyone. If I had a choice out of which three we would groundshare with I would most probably say Arsenal, if we shared with West Ham then there would fighting all the time. Chelsea is over ten miles away and is a trek and a half. Anyway, like I said, we'll find out in June.

Do you think they could play atleast 20 matches (19 + Arsenal's home match) and be behaved though?

It'd be the same if Arsenal played at WHL of course, there's always a small segment of fans determined to screw it up for everyone.

eMKay
March 12th, 2008, 10:57 PM
This is amazing, apparently HNIC (Hockey Night In Canada) went into the Aud (Buffalo Memorial Auditorium) and filmed a segment that was aired for the Ice Bowl, a great look at our old building...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzxokdqQYU0

2005
April 12th, 2008, 08:16 PM
This stand is crime, the East Stand at WHL, refurbushed in the late 1980s, truely awful decision by the club at the time, when it was finished the board complained to the architects about the pillars, even though the pillars WERE in the origanl drawings shown to them :ohno:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/1/1e/20070819105914!White_Hart_Lane.jpg

Can't find any pics of what it used to look like but for £8m (about £16m in todays money I think)

Impressive in size but not design.
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/man-utd-theatre-l.jpg

GNU
April 12th, 2008, 08:21 PM
OT is allright interior wise but its exterior is indeed hideous

NeilF
April 12th, 2008, 10:02 PM
Celtic F.C. - Main Stand - Celtic Park.

From this:

http://image.wetpaint.com/wiki/kds/image/14oTg6WSHnxsAGyPTS2DSgw==119524/GW608H800
http://image.wetpaint.com/wiki/kds/image/1oQ3W2TRkfi4r8vCQ+mkCAA==35668/GW768H576

To this:

http://www.jjsportstours.co.uk/celtic%20park%20entrance.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/SCO/Celtic_Park3.jpg

The big trouble I have with this rebuild is that there is so little gained by the change - there are still some horribly restricted views from the new Main Stand; there is so little progress between the original and the current version, yet a lot of history has been lost. I don't expect every club to have the kind of consideration that Rangers made with the main stand at Ibrox but if the loss of something special is required, then the progress made as a result should be worth that loss - see the new Trinity Road Stand at Villa Park, for example.

CharlieP
April 13th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Impressive in size but not design.
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/man-utd-theatre-l.jpg

The irony about Old Trafford is that it was once lauded as the only stadium in England with a consistent masterplan (in that in the second half of last century all the stands rebuilt were designed to link up seamlessly)...

Schmeek
April 13th, 2008, 07:52 PM
Here's a few shot's of Archibald Leitch's East stand at Spurs. You're right it was a travesty replacing it for it's current guise. They were forced to refurbish, as the old stand was crumbling. I suppose they made an effort to save the shelf at least.. I have a Spurs programme somewhere from back in the 80's where there is a drawing of how the Lane might look in the future after redevelopment of the east and north stands which clearly showed pillars on the east side. It's quite accurate to what actually happened, with two tiers joining up on either side - quite a novel concept back then.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/shelf.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/Berbaking/3352279.jpg

TalB
April 13th, 2008, 09:15 PM
I take it some like to judge a book by its cover.

ØlandDK
April 14th, 2008, 11:48 AM
This is seriously some of the worst I've seen:

Past:
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/DAN/Parken3.jpg

Future:
http://fck.dk/files/billeder/news/2007/oktober/tribune_indenfor3.jpg

ØlandDK
April 14th, 2008, 11:49 AM
More can BTW be found here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=540921

Quintana
April 14th, 2008, 12:28 PM
I concur. The old stand was the coolest looking (and most historic) one of the stadium, the new one will be by far the worst.

2005
April 14th, 2008, 02:06 PM
I have a Spurs programme somewhere from back in the 80's where there is a drawing of how the Lane might look in the future after redevelopment of the east and north stands which clearly showed pillars on the east side.

Could photo copy this and post it up by any chance?

lpioe
April 14th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Old stands of Parken and WHL were really beautiful, shame they're gone.

Scba
April 14th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Soldier Field. Enough said.

TalB
April 14th, 2008, 10:40 PM
I don't get why they are considered criminal designs.

www.sercan.de
April 15th, 2008, 01:22 AM
Taksim stadium (Istanbul) (1840s)
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5062/topcu37fj.jpg

http://www.bjk.com/about/club/facilities/images/taksim.jpg

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/8787/image29yx.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5185/fbgskavga23subat1934kj9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7120/topcu4iy7.jpg

to this
http://www.work-out.org/images/taksim.jpg

completely destroyed

ØlandDK
April 15th, 2008, 01:32 AM
Wow that stadium looked really nice!

krudmonk
April 15th, 2008, 02:08 AM
Soldier Field. Enough said.
That was my vote when I came in here.

www.sercan.de
April 15th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Wow that stadium looked really nice!

Turks have really problems with French architects :)

A French Architected designed the new Taksim square in the 1940s. ANd according to him the old Taksim stadium (was used as an Arsenal before) should have to be destroyed.

60 Years later French Architects designed the Atatürk Olimpiyat stadi.

2005
April 19th, 2008, 11:51 AM
That Taksim stadium looked amazing.

Bigmac1212
April 20th, 2008, 01:23 AM
Soldier Field. Enough said.

Unfortunatly, if the New Los Angeles stadium gets built, you'll have Soldier Field West.

www.sercan.de
April 20th, 2008, 11:45 AM
Yeah, Taksim stadium was a gret venue
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4378/gedizzzilkgolgg6.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/371/gedizzznt01rw4.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4930/topcu5xn2.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3844/topcuks9.jpg

Celt67
April 21st, 2008, 05:38 AM
Neil F doesn't like Celtic Park....what a shocker.

If he wants to talk about restricted views...he should go to his own clubdeck of Ibrox where the poorly designed top tier doesn't allow you to see the touchline because the distances and angles are all wrong. :ohno:

NeilF
April 21st, 2008, 06:40 PM
I never said anything about Rangers, other than I felt they've done a good job in preserving the main stand at Ibrox - having never been in Ibrox, I haven't experienced / was unaware of the problems you mention. I never said anything about the club I support - living in Scotland does not automatically mean I support either Rangers or Celtic. Nor does it infer that I am a football fan at all - any attention to my previous posts on this forum would indicate that I am a Rugby Union fan, not a football fan. I simply said that the new version of the Main Stand at Celtic Park is a terrible design, as per the title of this thread. If you want to discuss petty club rivalries, do it elsewhere - BBC 606 or Facebook's Sportsfan section perhaps? I'm really not interested in this kind of stuff on a messageboard that's not specifically about sport.

G.C.
April 22nd, 2008, 12:04 AM
Neil F doesn't like Celtic Park....what a shocker.

If he wants to talk about restricted views...he should go to his own clubdeck of Ibrox where the poorly designed top tier doesn't allow you to see the touchline because the distances and angles are all wrong. :ohno:

Nowt like a Celtic supporter to jump to conclusions eh?

TalB
April 22nd, 2008, 01:04 AM
Some say that Yankee Stadium went bad after its rennovation in the 1970's, which is probably why the new one will like the current one only before those changes were made.

Jim856796
July 27th, 2008, 04:18 AM
Since the Stadiums and sports arenas section has recently been cleaned up and I can't find my old Sports venues to be demolished in the future thread anywhere, I have decided to create a new thread about this issue.

We all know Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, and Giants stadium are slated to be demolished 1-3 years from now.

And I have just received very shocking news that the Wachovia Spectrum is scheduled to pass away around 2010 to make way for a stupid hotel. I would have thought of something to prevent the old arena's death. they would have thought about tearing down the arena a decade ago right after the Wachovia Centre was constructed.

Calvin W
July 27th, 2008, 10:10 AM
Well the metrodome in Minneapolis will be demolished if and when the vikings go through with a new stadium. In Detroit Tigers stadium will be demolished any day now. Pittsburgh will lose Mellon Arena once the new arena is finished. The RCA Dome in Indy will be gone by the end of the year. Etc, etc, etc, etc. Not hard to find Tons of stadiums falling under the wrecking ball in the not so distant future.

N1V1
July 27th, 2008, 11:59 AM
Jules Ottenstadion (KAA Gent):

http://i33.tinypic.com/6zu3o3.png

http://i33.tinypic.com/1zpjurc.png

Will be replaced in 2010 with this (building start next month):

http://i34.tinypic.com/2z8dbn9.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/fwslqt.jpg

Chimaera
July 27th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Since the Stadiums and sports arenas section has recently been cleaned up and I can't find my old Sports venues to be demolished in the future thread anywhere, I have decided to create a new thread about this issue.

We all know Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, and Giants stadium are slated to be demolished 1-3 years from now.

And I have just received very shocking news that the Wachovia Spectrum is scheduled to pass away around 2010 to make way for a stupid hotel. I would have thought of something to prevent the old arena's death. they would have thought about tearing down the arena a decade ago right after the Wachovia Centre was constructed.Somehow I don't think so, it has just been renovated...

www.sercan.de
July 27th, 2008, 12:48 PM
its a new stadium on a different location

Chimaera
July 27th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Apparently you're right, I was mislead by the fact that the only construction pictures shown on this forum were of the facade and roof decorations, and the familiar surroundings (obviously, it's just next to the old stadium). So I thought they just gave the existing stadium a retro look. Would have made the price tag even more astronomic...

cinosanap
July 27th, 2008, 05:33 PM
Love Street (St Mirren Park), Paisley, Scotland will be demolished later this year to make way for a Tesco. St Mirren are nearly finished their new stadium and should move in by the end of the year.

GEwinnen
July 27th, 2008, 08:12 PM
I don´t know why because eventhoug the atletic track I have always liked this stadium. Specialy with the steps and the players coming down from it.
I like it better then the current stadium of Schalke, which realy cannot match this classic mop.


1973: (brand new)

http://s2aplg21.multipic.de/02.jpg

http://s2aplg21.multipic.de/03.jpg

July 2008

http://ou5hp8wm.multipic.de/07.jpg

Jim856796
July 27th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Don't you care that the Spectrum Arena is gonna die?

Benjuk
July 28th, 2008, 04:44 AM
I keep reading that Wembley isn't an option.

As for the other options it's hard to say, I won't lie when I say Spurs are by far the most hated club in London, the rivalry with Arsenal has been going on since just after WW1, Chelsea have said that we're their arch rivals four about forty years and West Ham have hated us for the past 15 years, and now say they hate us more than anyone. If I had a choice out of which three we would groundshare with I would most probably say Arsenal, if we shared with West Ham then there would fighting all the time. Chelsea is over ten miles away and is a trek and a half. Anyway, like I said, we'll find out in June.

I'd say Chelsea have taken the "most hated" title from Spurs. Personally, I've always been ambivilent about Spurs, yet disliked West Ham, Arsenal (until recently) and Chelsea (always, but particularly now).

Surely Wembley is the only logical answer if Spurs have to play 'away' from the Lane? Failing that, it's got to be swallow the pride time and go to the Emirates (seems that Arsenal are pretty desperate for the money that a tennant would bring in at the moment!!)

Calvin W
July 29th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Don't you care that the Spectrum Arena is gonna die?

Honestly no one will shed any tears. Get rid of it, Philly doesn't need it.

nyrmetros
July 29th, 2008, 01:34 AM
Honestly no one will shed any tears. Get rid of it, Philly doesn't need it.

Rangers fans hated that place. lol

scukaf
July 29th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Maksimir Stadium (38.928 seats) will be probably demolished by year 2010 - 2011. (Zagreb, Croatia)

http://www.metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2008/04/web_image/stadion_maksimir.jpg

There are two possible possibilities that could replace the old stadium.

1st - renovation of the existing one:

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/CRO/Maksimir_new_A.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/CRO/Maksimir_new.jpg

or 2nd choice is to build a new stadium at other location:

http://i26.tinypic.com/1zq6ijm.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/21eawbk.jpg

dudu24
July 30th, 2008, 10:38 AM
It won't be demolished, it will crash by itself (hopefully) :)

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 11:06 AM
Kayseri Stadium. Will be demolish at the first half of 2009
http://www.picsandimages.com/img/8846c68cf9ff870ad5df7394b65a3f13/stadyum.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/turkey/central_anatolia/kayseri_ataturk1.jpg


And new stadium of Kayseri is under construction
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6138/bitinceboyleduracakmm1.gif

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Istanbul- Ali Sami Yen Stadium. Home of Galatasaray will be demolished in the first half of 2010 and replace with a skyscraper

http://www.guzelresimler.org/data/media/150/AliSamiYen.jpg

http://www.forumfutbol.com/futbol-resimleri/data/media/42/galata_stade.jpg

And new stadium o Galatasaray wich is under construction now will be open at the end of 2009
http://www.arkitera.com/UserFiles/Image/project/2007/seyrantepe/anasayfa.jpg

scukaf
July 30th, 2008, 11:20 AM
^^
wow, you turks are doing a magnificant job building such lovely stadiums! :okay:

www.sercan.de
July 30th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Actually Ali Sami Yen will demolished in ~13 months

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 12:23 PM
^^ even before the openning of the new stadium???

www.sercan.de
July 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM
3 months before opening they will give the stadium to the company which built the new stadium

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 12:57 PM
so where will Galatasaray play in this period?

www.sercan.de
July 30th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Agust - October. Maybe just away games or Olympic stadium

Herzeleid
July 30th, 2008, 07:46 PM
all the areas of the old stadiums they wil built skyscrapers, less in ramat gan, wich the new stadium will be built right there


Ramat Gan stadium will be destroyed most posible this year or in the beginning of the next year, a 60,000 stadium will replace it.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/ramat_gan.jpg


Kiryat Eliezer in Haifa will be destroyed and replaced by a 30,000 stadium.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/haifa_eliezer.jpg

the new stadium
http://www.mansfeld-kehat.co.il/var/100/10743-907-20-large.jpg
http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_98154353.jpg

Vasermil in Beersheva will be destroyed and will be replaced by a 32,000 stadium (u/c)
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/middle_east/israel/beer_sheva_vasermil.jpg

the render of the new stadium
http://totowinner.cn/imgs/beersheva.jpg


in Petach Tikva will be destroyed and replaced by a 32,000 stadium (u/c)
http://www.portalremate.net/image.php?image=imgcont/estadiomph.jpg&max_width=400

the render of the new stadium is eighter this
http://totowinner.cn/imgs/petah_tikva.jpg

or this (at the botton of the skyscraper clusters u can see a wee bit of the stadium)
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/8941/petahtikva6yy.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/6t3hx6d.jpg


in Netanya will be destroyed and replaced by a 30,000 stadium (u/c)
http://www.portalremate.net/image.php?image=imgcont/estadiomaccabinet.jpg&max_width=400

render of the new stadium, when finished it will be a closed stadium with 4 stands
http://www.netanya.muni.il/_uploads/extraimg/Stadium.jpg
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/netanya_stadium.jpg

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 11:09 PM
wooow, nice stadiums are coming in Israel. Also designs are so realistic. not so much fantacy.

Kuvvaci
July 30th, 2008, 11:51 PM
Antalya, Dilek Sabacı Sport Hall will be demolised very soon (maybe in a few weeks) and replace a modern sport complex wich has a football stadium and basketball arena (wich is u/c) now.
http://www.vaksa.org.tr/tr/kalicieser/spr/antalya/dilek_sabanci_antalya_spor_salonu/images/dsass_01.jpg

http://www.vaksa.org.tr/tr/kalicieser/spr/antalya/dilek_sabanci_antalya_spor_salonu/images/dsass_02.jpg

this is the new sport complex wich is partly under construction ( basketball arena is u/c. For stadium, the construction area will be ready soon)
http://www.antalyasporum.com/images/haber/2007-2008/yeni_stad_salon/stadyum-salon.jpg

koolio
July 31st, 2008, 12:15 AM
Man wtf? Every country is building beautiful new stadiums these days. Only Canada seems content with the shit we currently have. Seriously, the CFL teams need to improve their shitty stadiums.

Kuvvaci
July 31st, 2008, 01:07 AM
Basketball in Europe is iproving and areanas is getting bigger. Canada doesn't need new arenas for basketball as I know.

And if you notice. Most of the new stadiums are football (soccer) stadiums. Because investment on this sport worldwide very intense and much. Economy of football is getting big, so the countries need new stadiums for this economic progress.

koolio
July 31st, 2008, 01:34 AM
Basketball in Europe is iproving and areanas is getting bigger. Canada doesn't need new arenas for basketball as I know.

And if you notice. Most of the new stadiums are football (soccer) stadiums. Because investment on this sport worldwide very intense and much. Economy of football is getting big, so the countries need new stadiums for this economic progress.

Yeah, I was referring to outdoor stadiums. We don't need any more indoor arenas .... Canada is very advanced in that regard.

Fact is that there is a mildly successful Canadian Football League (gridiron football) that is hugely popular in many regions of the country. However, they also have extremely shitty stadiums. In my opinion, the government at all levels is extremely discouraging in terms of stadium development. Even private investors who don't want a single penny from the government are being blocked from building stadiums.

Kuvvaci
July 31st, 2008, 02:27 AM
^^ could you please show some of these stadiums you mention?

koolio
July 31st, 2008, 04:40 AM
^^ could you please show some of these stadiums you mention?

Sure. I'll post all the CFL stadiums and you guys can judge which ones I was referring to as "shit".

Montreal

1) Olympic Stadium
http://www.bigboysguesthouse.com/images/Montreal-Olympic-Stadium.jpg

2) Percival Molson Memorial Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Montreal_021.jpg

Ottawa

3) Frank Clair Stadium
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/canada/ontario/ottawa_frank_clair1.jpg

Toronto

4) SkyDome (Rogers Centre)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1204/1098482959_32c302484b.jpg?v=1199925077

Hamilton

5) Ivor Wynne Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/IvorWynneStadium_Hamilton.jpg/800px-IvorWynneStadium_Hamilton.jpg

Winnipeg

6) Canad Inns Stadium
http://www.astroturfusa.com/resources/images/HPFields/Winnepeg_Canada.jpg

Saskatchewan

7) Mosaic Stadium at Taylor Field
http://football.ballparks.com/CFL/Saskatchewan/interior.jpg

Edmonton

8) Commonwealth Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Commonwealth.jpg

Calgary

9) McMahon Stadium
http://www.godinos.com/images/news/McMahon.jpg

Vancouver

10) BC Place
http://www.lestwarog.com/admin/uploads/building/main_image/1131997901building.jpg

although it currently has renovation plans which would turn it into this:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8630/68503015bd5.jpg

en1044
July 31st, 2008, 05:03 AM
Sure. I'll post all the CFL stadiums and you guys can judge which ones I was referring to as "shit".



I agree that a bunch of them arent very good and they deserve new ones, but Commonwealth Stadium isnt that bad is it?

theespecialone
July 31st, 2008, 05:34 AM
vancaouver looks great

the rest look too simple and aged

koolio
July 31st, 2008, 06:12 AM
I agree that a bunch of them arent very good and they deserve new ones, but Commonwealth Stadium isnt that bad is it?

Commonwealth Stadium isn't bad (atleast in my opinion) but it has a running track which takes away from the atmosphere. A smaller, more intimate stadium would be preferable in my opinion.

Also, I should point out that Winnipeg has a stadium proposal that is in a very advanced stage of the approval process. The proposal is just waiting federal backing, as it has already secured provincial government funding.

http://pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/818.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/sheldonwolfe/14a8_stadium31.jpg

In my opinion, Calgary, Saskatchewan, Toronto, Hamilton, and Ottawa should be looking at similar development as well. Montreal doesn't have the best stadium either but currently their stadium is right in the middle of the city and apparently makes for a great atmosphere, so even with the sub-par stadium, I think they're fine where they are. Toronto has a great stadium as well (Rogers Centre) but it is too big for them and they could certainly go for something a bit smaller.

theespecialone
July 31st, 2008, 06:46 AM
Commonwealth Stadium isn't bad (atleast in my opinion) but it has a running track which takes away from the atmosphere. A smaller, more intimate stadium would be preferable in my opinion.

Also, I should point out that Winnipeg has a stadium proposal that is in a very advanced stage of the approval process. The proposal is just waiting federal backing, as it has already secured provincial government funding.

http://pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/818.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/sheldonwolfe/14a8_stadium31.jpg

In my opinion, Calgary, Saskatchewan, Toronto, Hamilton, and Ottawa should be looking at similar development as well. Montreal doesn't have the best stadium either but currently their stadium is right in the middle of the city and apparently makes for a great atmosphere, so even with the sub-par stadium, I think they're fine where they are. Toronto has a great stadium as well (Rogers Centre) but it is too big for them and they could certainly go for something a bit smaller.

reminds me of the athens olympic stadium

Kuvvaci
July 31st, 2008, 09:52 AM
Sure. I'll post all the CFL stadiums and you guys can judge which ones I was referring to as "shit".

Montreal

1) Olympic Stadium
http://www.bigboysguesthouse.com/images/Montreal-Olympic-Stadium.jpg

2) Percival Molson Memorial Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Montreal_021.jpg

Ottawa

3) Frank Clair Stadium
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/canada/ontario/ottawa_frank_clair1.jpg

Toronto

4) SkyDome (Rogers Centre)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1204/1098482959_32c302484b.jpg?v=1199925077

Hamilton

5) Ivor Wynne Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/IvorWynneStadium_Hamilton.jpg/800px-IvorWynneStadium_Hamilton.jpg

Winnipeg

6) Canad Inns Stadium
http://www.astroturfusa.com/resources/images/HPFields/Winnepeg_Canada.jpg

Saskatchewan

7) Mosaic Stadium at Taylor Field
http://football.ballparks.com/CFL/Saskatchewan/interior.jpg

Edmonton

8) Commonwealth Stadium
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Commonwealth.jpg

Calgary

9) McMahon Stadium
http://www.godinos.com/images/news/McMahon.jpg

Vancouver

10) BC Place
http://www.lestwarog.com/admin/uploads/building/main_image/1131997901building.jpg

although it currently has renovation plans which would turn it into this:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8630/68503015bd5.jpg

I think Montrea,Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton have wonderful stadiums.

Other cities need new stadiums, but some of them are not shit, just small and old fahsion.

Kuvvaci
August 2nd, 2008, 05:10 PM
Avni Aker Stadium in Trabzon, Turkey.

It will be demolished in next a few years. But it was under such a bad contition that although it will be demolished soon, it needed a renovation for a few years to stand. Trabzon will have two new stadiums and this stadium will be a Mall
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1274/aa02gv6.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/115/dscn1206ti7.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2074/dscn1236to1.jpg

g$X.n1
August 2nd, 2008, 10:39 PM
Ali Sami Yen (New Stadium will be built in another area)

I will cry the hole day that's for sure

dudu24
August 2nd, 2008, 11:09 PM
Can you guys give more more links for current Trabzon stadium renovations?

Kuvvaci
August 2nd, 2008, 11:17 PM
here you are
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=455926&page=18

Big Texan
August 11th, 2008, 08:40 AM
The Logo for the Farewell and Tickets for the Final season at Texas Stadium have been released.

Logo
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/rainmaker17/txstadium.jpg

Season Tickets
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2675641963_473a93681e.jpg?v=0

Jim856796
August 11th, 2008, 06:21 PM
Honestly no one will shed any tears. Get rid of it, Philly doesn't need it.

Correction: Lots of people will mourn its death. I didn't want it to die. It was gonna be used in a Philadelphia Olympic Bid.

Sea Toby
August 12th, 2008, 12:46 PM
the final plan for this site is a shopping center.


It is going to suck to see her go, but Irving has no need to keep a stadium that old or that expensive.

The Crossroads of Irving isn't just a shopping center, its a mixed use shopping center with office buildings and high rise condos and apartments, a nice community itself. It should highlight the Las Colinas corridor. DART is building a light rail station at the Crossroads of Irving. The old Texas Stadium site is located at the intersection of three urban freeways, one of the busiest in the Dallas area. As noted before, smack in the middle of the metroplex geographically. There is a reason why Clint Murchison built there in the first place. Location, location, location. Prime location. An image:
http://www.crossroadsdfw.com/sketch-st.php

While Arlington may have stolen the Cowboys, it looks to me like Irving got the better development. A huge improvement over a parking lot with a stadium. Shall I say Victory Park II? Or Park Central II. A cinema complex, along with an entertainment center, among others. WE THINK BIG IN TEXAS! AND BUILD BIGGER!

The Irving City Council didn't know what they wanted to do with the property. Irving was thinking in terms of a church or new car dealership. They asked developers for answers. Viola! Irving will be happy to slam the door on Jerry Jones' Cowboys as they leave.

Big Texan
August 12th, 2008, 07:27 PM
DB Had no idea what he was talking about. I do think Irving is coming out ahead because Arlington is falling behind on its glory park plans was supposed to go around the new stadium and Ballpark. As soon as Arlington re develops that part of there entertainment district, Irving and Arlington will be equal.

This project in Irving will take a while to get going, I wont expect to see it done till 2018 at the soonest.

irving1903
August 13th, 2008, 02:33 AM
all the irving HS [irving,nimitz,&mac] football teams are making it a goal to make it to playoffs for one last playoff game in texas stadium.

[hopefully we make it] *


irving made it :]

we lost but it was great to be on the star the final year

Kuvvaci
August 13th, 2008, 11:23 AM
^^ so wich one is true?

Sea Toby
August 13th, 2008, 04:00 PM
DB Had no idea what he was talking about. I do think Irving is coming out ahead because Arlington is falling behind on its glory park plans was supposed to go around the new stadium and Ballpark. As soon as Arlington re develops that part of there entertainment district, Irving and Arlington will be equal.

This project in Irving will take a while to get going, I wont expect to see it done till 2018 at the soonest.

Park Central and Victory Park weren't built up overnight either. But at this location, with three freeways and the light rail line, highlighting Las Colinas and the Stemmons corridor, this site can't miss.

fenway58
August 15th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Was Home to the
Boston Bruins (1928–1995)

Boston Celtics (1946–1995)

inside.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n100/agirlcalledm/boston_02.jpg

outside
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/puchiacca/BostonGarden.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Garden

LosAngelesSportsFan
August 16th, 2008, 05:47 AM
Dump! just kidding, as a Lakers fan im born to hate that place. i miss the gahden. my fondest memory is Magic's baby sky hook!

kicaj
August 16th, 2008, 10:38 AM
Boston Garden.. great history, lots of great geams..
more photos please:)

nyrmetros
August 17th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Any pics of the Rangers beating the Bruins at the garden?

fenway58
August 29th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Ebbets Field
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/slimlouis/Baseball%20Stadiums/ebbets_field_6.jpg :cheers:
Brooklyn, New York
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj145/pantoja06/Brooklyn_Dodgers1213.png
Tenant: Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)
Opened: April 9, 1913
First night game: June 15, 1938
Last game: September 24, 1957
Demolished: February 23, 1960
Surface: Grass
Capacity: 25,000 (1913); 32,000 (1932)
1955 World Series champs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebbets_Field

fenway58
August 29th, 2008, 08:20 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/cjrau/EbbetsField.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/SNAP1957/EbbetsField.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f27/Kirkthedanielson/ebbets_air_noparking_d1.jpg

Arist
November 18th, 2008, 04:20 AM
Auctioning off Texas Stadium.
http://www.dallasnews.com/video/dallasnews/hp/index.html?nvid=304551&shu=1

Jim856796
November 18th, 2008, 09:11 AM
About the Trabzon Avni Aker Stadium, how did they upgrade a football stadium slated for demolition to extend its lifespan?

www.sercan.de
November 18th, 2008, 01:37 PM
TS new stadium will be ready by 2011.
Till 2011 they had to renovate the current old one

Jim856796
November 23rd, 2008, 12:15 AM
In 1994, there was a proposal to expand Texas Stadium by up to 40,000 seats. That would have been technically impossible since there is limited space for any proposed expansion.

rantanamo
November 23rd, 2008, 05:05 AM
In 1994, there was a proposal to expand Texas Stadium by up to 40,000 seats. That would have been technically impossible since there is limited space for any proposed expansion.

Simply untrue. The plan was to dig down, essentially cutting the lower half into two sections. One being two overhanging club decks along with a couple of suite rings below.

Arist
November 27th, 2008, 06:36 AM
The Last Thanksgiving Day Football Game at Texas Stadium is Tomorrow. Go out on a high note TS!

Arist
November 28th, 2008, 04:57 AM
Go Cowboys... but the half time show... wow, who gave the Jonas Brother a Music Contract, they are HORRIBLE!!!!!!

boomboom
November 28th, 2008, 06:32 AM
My High school football team will play there on sunday. Mansfield High School VS. Ceder Hill. Exciting!

www.sercan.de
December 9th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Does somebody have plans or at least very big pics of the old stadium?

Aka
December 9th, 2008, 01:44 AM
Does somebody have plans or at least very big pics of the old stadium?

Not really, but...

http://siesta.cool.ne.jp/DaLuz/Benfica_Sporting02.jpg

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/luz_scan.jpg

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/luz5.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/Pelha/3c354d38.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/Pelha/ab9ae705.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/Pelha/0fdb04c2.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/Pelha/6eb0c0cb.jpg

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz3.jpg

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz4.jpg

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/x_luz3.jpg

http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos/Benfica_scp3.jpg

kazetuner
December 9th, 2008, 04:56 AM
those were really odd stairs on the upper tier...

www.sercan.de
December 9th, 2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks
Just wantd to know the nu,ber of rows and the degree of the stands


Counted 34 rows for the 1st tier.

Aka
December 9th, 2008, 10:06 PM
Counted 34 rows for the 1st tier.

From which photo?

EDIT: And I count at least 54 rows + suites from the lower side in total.

www.sercan.de
December 10th, 2008, 12:20 PM
This one
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz4.jpg

But just saw it, there are more rows.
Could not see it because of the wall :D

Actually its a shame, such a great stadium but no good pics etc.

Aka
December 10th, 2008, 02:31 PM
The truth is that these sites like Flickr, Photobucket, etc. are relatively new. Even YouTube. It's very hard to find Euro 2004 videos if you compare it with the 2006 FIFA World Cup or the UEFA Euro 2008.

wearethefuture
December 10th, 2008, 07:56 PM
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz4.jpg


Look at the crazy angle of the seats next to that private box area near the front! Not seen anything like that before, did people actually sit on those seats? Couldn't have been very comfortable leaning over to the side for the whole game. :lol:

The old stadium looked spectacular by the way.

Aka
December 10th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Look at the crazy angle of the seats next to that private box area near the front! Not seen anything like that before, did people actually sit on those seats? Couldn't have been very comfortable leaning over to the side for the whole game. :lol:

Those seats were for drunks.

Basel_CH
December 10th, 2008, 10:08 PM
Does somebody have plans or at least very big pics of the old stadium?

Depending what you mean with very big but just found that:

http://site.mynet.com/m_ugur_b/mynet_resimlerim/estadio_da_luz.jpg

Lowdy79
December 11th, 2008, 12:47 PM
What's the capacity of benfica old stadium??

thanks

www.sercan.de
December 11th, 2008, 02:09 PM
2nd tier had max 44 rows
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos/093.jpg

I think old capacity was as an all seater 77,000-80,000

Aka
December 11th, 2008, 02:17 PM
120.000 without seats (although there were 131.000 at the 1991 FIFA U-20 World Cup final) and 80.000 all-seated (although there were 90.000 during a Benfica-Boavista).

Aka
December 11th, 2008, 02:18 PM
2nd tier had max 44 rows
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos/093.jpg

That's the third tier. The mythic "terceiro anel". ;)

www.sercan.de
December 11th, 2008, 02:40 PM
3rd tier?
The old one had just 2 tiers?!?1

PaulFCB
December 11th, 2008, 07:52 PM
So the New Ultra Modern Da Luz si a improvement to the old one: roof, new seats for better comfort etc?

NeilF
December 11th, 2008, 08:06 PM
3rd tier?
The old one had just 2 tiers?!?1

There's some separation in what I guess you're regarding as the lower of two tiers, meaning that the bottom ring is two tiers, rather than one. Look at the picture posted by Aka, and you should see what I mean:

http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/eluz4.jpg

mihai_alex
December 11th, 2008, 10:58 PM
^^
Yeah,but are they structurally separated?

Aka
December 12th, 2008, 12:16 AM
Luz always had three tiers and they were always distinguished one from another.

Aka
December 12th, 2008, 12:17 AM
So the New Ultra Modern Da Luz si a improvement to the old one: roof, new seats for better comfort etc?

No. They're two different stadiums.

canallon91
December 12th, 2008, 10:48 AM
Wembley would just scrape into the Top 10 in North America, behind

1. Michigan Stadium - 107,501
2. Beaver Stadium - 107,282
3. Neyland Stadium - 104,079
4. Ohio Stadium - 101,568
5. Rose Bowl Stadium - 92,542
6. Sanford Stadium - 92,058
7. LA Memorial Coliseum - 92,000
8. FedEx Field - 91,665
9. Tiger Stadium - 91,644


tell me how many of those stadiums are temples of world football?

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2008, 12:13 PM
For me it had 2 tiers. :D
The 1st tier is just divided.
Its like at Bernabeu's 3rd tier
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danjc003/1938146734/sizes/l/

Or the 1st tier at the new GS stadium
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/pkesit-bati.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/turkisi/stadyum/tribnden.jpg

PaulFCB
December 12th, 2008, 01:32 PM
No. They're two different stadiums.

Thats a bit strange, i thought it's just renovated cause the old was big and it had potential for renovations to become ultra modern...and the structure of the new one looks similar from the outside just very modernized.
So the location is the same, the demolished the old Da Luz and built this one?

NeilF
December 12th, 2008, 02:29 PM
^^
Yeah,but are they structurally separated?

Honestly, I don't know. I think there would be reasonable grounds to make a judgement call that they could be structurally separate. Certainly, in my opinion, they seem to be structurally separate and I can think of no real reason why the stadium would have been built in such a way if both parts of the lower ring were all one structure.

Ultimately, this is also how I would make the call, which is why I'm happy enough to think of the third tier at the Bernebeu as a single tier, as it is clearly one structure. The specific design of the lower ring at the old Da Luz is more open to debate and in the absence of definite plans, I guess we'll all have to agree to disagree.

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2008, 03:26 PM
New one was built next to the old one
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Fevereiro2002.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Julho2002.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//Novembro2002.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//PICT0260.jpg
http://www.serbenfiquista.com/extras/fotos//095.jpg

wearethefuture
December 12th, 2008, 08:55 PM
I couldn't find a similar thread so i thought i would start a new one, whilst looking at the photos of the old Benfica stadium it got me thinking.

What important or historic stadiums have been completely demolished, either to build a new one on the same site or to relocate and build elsewhere? I find it fascinating to see photos or footage of stadiums that have been consigned to the history books.

I'll start of with the old Wembley Stadium "The Home of Football";
Capacity; 80,000 when it closed (originally 127,000)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/352849481_28fdfcb0ae_o.jpg

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/2658609.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=99EDCE1A92AD9461EC6F2BC835E0DB75A55A1E4F32AD3138
The famous 'White Horse Cup Final' 1923 - (it is estimated that over 200,000 packed in to Wembley for the match, since known as the White Horse Final, for the mounted policeman who cleared the crowd, many of whom had overflowed onto the pitch)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/03/wembley_way2_430x280.jpg
The world famous 'Twin Towers'

The last game and last goal to be scored at the old Wembley came in Kevin Keegan's last game as England manager. German midfielder Dietmar Hamann (at the time a Liverpool player) hit a low free-kick as England were beaten 0-1 by their arch-rivals Germany on October 7, 2000.

The new Wembley stands on the same site as the old one did, for more information on the new stadium visit; http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=98755

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Good thread. We needed such one.
Will add some older posts.

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Taksim stadi

Built in the 1840s as an Arsenal
Turned 1921 into a stadium with a capacity of 10,000. (record 18,000)

It was Istanbul's first "big" stadium.

Although it was a small stadium its special for me, because i like the design :)

Unfortunately it was closed and demolished 1940. (A french architect made a masterplan for this area and he prefered a park instead of a stadium. City built Inönü stadium)

The first match under floodlight in Turkey was played here (9.9.1939)

Main Entrance
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/8787/image29yx.jpg

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2184/topcu46gh.jpg

http://www.bilder-hosting.de/img/BX2NY.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3300/topcu30be9.jpg

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/71/topcu5an7.jpg

Player entrance
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9720/taksimstadmacacikilirkeyi0.jpg

Main stand
http://www.bjk.com/about/club/facilities/images/taksim.jpg


First match of the turkish National team
Oct 26,1923 Turkey 2-2 Romania
http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/images/nt01.jpg



And of course the legendary derby :D
23.2.1934
GS-FB match

Friday 23 February 1934 was the day when unexpected riots happened at a supposed to be friendly match between Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray played at Taksim Stadium. Both teams wanted to win badly and therefore the match had to be stopped many times because of hard fouls. The high tension on the pitch caused high tension on the stands as well. The game ended with players fighting, the pitch turned out to be a war area. The referee had no choice except to abandon the match. It was the end of friendly displays between both clubs.

http://www.turkfutbolu.net/tarih/images/1930lar/fbgskavga_23_Subat_1934.jpg

wearethefuture
December 12th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Nice one sercan :okay:

^^ Probably the nicest stadium exterior of all time.

www.sercan.de
December 12th, 2008, 11:57 PM
As far as I know Turkey do not have a Football museum.

Instead of a modern one i would prefer to rebuilt the Taksim stadium (aka Taksim Arsenal).
Instead of the playing field just a public park etc.

Its a real shame of turkish history.

1.) destroying this old building
2.) building a new stadium next to the bosphorus


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3791/alimelihatafirattara001qr7.jpg


to


http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1547/alimelihatafirattara000uz5.jpg

wearethefuture
December 13th, 2008, 12:42 AM
- What a complete waste, the main patch of what appears to be grass looks to be the same size as the pitch was anyway! The architect should have a least saved a part of the stadium in order to pay respect to the amazing history of this stadium, preferably this part of the exterior;

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/8787/image29yx.jpg
For the use of the community and as you say would have been perfect as a museum for Turkish football.

Highbury (Arsenal Stadium) - Arsenal FC - London
- Whilst on the subject of putting parts of old stadiums to good use, this is what Arsenal (funnily enough!) have done to their old Highbury ground, a lost stadium but not completely demolished;

Before:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/95885388_a5b349ac95_b.jpg
Highbury (Arsenal Stadium), Capacity: 38,419 (at closure) and 73,000 (peak), Opened: 6 September 1913, Closed: 7 May 2006, More Info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Stadium)

After:
http://www.thestadium-highbury.com/downloads/cgi001_1024x768.jpg
"The Stadium Highbury Square" a collection of new apartments retaining the listed facades with a park in the middle where the old pitch was. More Info (http://www.thestadium-highbury.com/stadium_main.htm)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2286281539_5fea9500e1_b.jpg
One of the retained facades prior to building work.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3021078465_554520daff.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/3021091949_0745960804.jpg
Work still underway.

Whilst some may dislike what has happened to the old Highbury stadium at least it is still there in spirit and parts of the stadium still exist which unfortunately cannot be said about many of the old stadiums and grounds that once entertained football in England. Many of which have been turned into Tesco supermarkets or Barrat style housing estates (which seem to be sweeping accross the country) i think this sort of thing should be encouraged in order to preserve some of the great history of English football.

Benjuk
December 13th, 2008, 07:15 AM
I love what they're doing with Highbury EXCEPT for the landscaping of the 'garden' area. The pitch should have been left as a pitch, marked out, etc., forever. A tribute to the history of the place. Still would have been something wonderful to look out of your appartment and see.

For my contribution - Roker Park, Sunderland. Home of Sunderland AFC for 100 years.

The Main Stand...
http://200506.sunderlandthai.com/img/roker_park1.jpg

The Fulwell End...
http://200506.sunderlandthai.com/img/roker_park2.jpg

The people that made it special...
http://www.homesoffootball.co.uk/media/uploads/2777_t_w740_h600.jpg
(I'm very probably in this picture - was taken circa 1996, at that time I used to stand just infront of the "TO" in the "WELCOME TO SUNDERLAND" at the rear of the Fulwell End - I'll be an indistinct blur somewhere, which is usual for me.)

Nadini
December 13th, 2008, 07:30 AM
I dont know if this counts,
...Built...Destroyed...Lost....Rebuilt
Beirut, Lebanon
Before
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8428/page280281a0ik.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
After
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6692/page280281d6mu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1691/page282283d7ry.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

spud
December 13th, 2008, 11:51 AM
gentlemen i present you with watersheddings, a famous old rugby league ground as used by oldham RLFC between 1889 - 1997,record attendance of 28,000, god knows what that was like cos i've been there in a near 10,000 crowd and that was scary...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/sheddings/normal_Oldham_Watersheddings_1988g.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/sheddings/normal_Oldham_Watersheddings_1988f.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/sheddings/normal_Oldham_Watersheddings_1988d.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/sheddings/normal_Oldham_Watersheddings_1988b.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/sheddings/normal_Oldham_Watersheddings_1988a.jpg

older photos,this against the touring australia national team in the 50's
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/roughyedspud/OLDPICTUREOFSHEDDINGS007.jpg

and this one from 1933 again against the aussies
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v162/115/71/698616751/n698616751_545185_1758.jpg


sadly missed

Jim856796
December 13th, 2008, 12:08 PM
About the Camille Chamoun Stadium, it was bombed some time in its life. I don't know when. It was reconstructed in 1997.

And two stadiums that hosted the World cup Final match are deceased: The National stadium of the Fascist Party in Rome, Italy, and the Wankdorf Stadium in Bern, Switzerland (At the time of the 1954 World Cup, the stadium had 8,000 seats and standing room for 56,000)

MâF
December 13th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Carlos Tartiere, Oviedo.
Built in 1932, it was parcialyy destroyed during de Spanish Civil war:
http://www.oviedin.com/carlostartiere/img3_pq.jpg
http://www.oviedin.com/carlostartiere/img2.jpg

http://www.oviedin.com/carlostartiere/tartiere11.jpg
http://www.oviedin.com/carlostartiere/img5_pq.jpg

That's how it looked before de WC 1982:
http://www.oviedin.com/carlostartiere/buenavista.jpg

And the reconstruction for the championship:
http://www.realoviedo.info/Fondomarc.JPG
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/479757051_6417425e8c.jpg?v=0

It was demolished in 2002.

Patrick
December 13th, 2008, 02:52 PM
many people say, that these new arenas all look the same. btu in fact, the old stadiums also all looked the same.

Köln - Müngersdorfer Stadion
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/M%C3%BCngersdorfer.jpg

Hannover - Niedersachsenstadion
http://www.niedersachsenstadion.de/1-14.jpg

Hamburg - Volksparkstadion
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Hamburger_SV_-_Bayern_M%C3%BCnchen_1981-renew.jpg/800px-Hamburger_SV_-_Bayern_M%C3%BCnchen_1981-renew.jpg

Düsseldorf - Rheinstadion
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Altes_Rheinstadion.jpg

Frankfurt - Waldstadion
http://www.eintracht-archiv.de/buecher/waldstadion-1974.jpg

Although I kinda like the look of the old Waldstadion in Frankfurt 1955 (capacity: 87,000)
http://www.aufbau-ffm.de/serie/Teil13/Bilder/sta5.jpg
http://www.aufbau-ffm.de/serie/Teil13/Bilder/23.jpg

geego
December 13th, 2008, 04:52 PM
I love what they're doing with Highbury EXCEPT for the landscaping of the 'garden' area. The pitch should have been left as a pitch, marked out, etc., forever. A tribute to the history of the place. Still would have been something wonderful to look out of your appartment and see.
Wow! That Highbury urbanistic redevelopment is almost identical to what they did to the stadium of Sarrià in Barcelona - only no façades were left standing.

Visible on Google Maps (link to it (http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=41.393111,2.133169&ie=UTF8&ll=41.393157,2.133488&spn=0.002028,0.003905&z=18&iwloc=addr)), there is a real-sized 10-yard-radius dirt area in the exact spot where the kick-off circle once laid. The garden where the field of play was has been displaced some 30 metres to the east.

PaulFCB
December 13th, 2008, 07:30 PM
I don't understand why they didn't make Da Luz a lot bigger.
Benfica has a strong fan support in Portugal and Lisbon and it's by far nr. 1. There are a lot of "socios" actually twice the number of the seats? Won't more then 65.000 want to come to the games especially the most important ones.
Wouldn't it have been wise to actually make the new Da Luz bigger then the old one?

Benjuk
December 13th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Waverley Park, Melbourne. Former home of Aussie Rules Football. Was planned at one point to have a capacity of something like 150k (the large stand was to be replicated around the entire perimeter of the pitch).

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/13/wbHAWTHORNwaverlylast3_gallery__470x304.jpg

Is now being turned into a housing estate, although the pitch and the central section of the main stand are still in place, converted into a health club, admin & shopping.
The appartments around the perimeter of the pitch are two/three storeys, with balconies facing toward the pitch which gives the impression of a continuous double tier 'stand' going around the outside of the pitch. Great stuff.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/13/wbHAWTHORNwaverlyglass_gallery__470x317.jpg
The main stand as it is now.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v560/220/56/517981645/n517981645_1548609_2709.jpg
Pitch-side apartments.

Nikom
December 13th, 2008, 09:30 PM
The old Alvalade Stadium in Lisbon,Portugal :)

http://www.centenariosporting.com/get_document.php?id=1067

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/61/123lc1.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3918/pict0031dv5.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iQyDlT-CBHU/R127NMfD7DI/AAAAAAAABG8/SNzvD6ITpTk/s1600/dcc.BMP

PaulFCB
December 14th, 2008, 01:58 AM
So same thing about Alvalade as with Da Luz.
Though, i hate the thing with the seats on Sportings stadium, i think it's kinda g... It doesn't help much when there aren't people, just looks weird.
I admire a lot how Portugal turned from mediocre stadiums ( simple structures ) with athletics fields ( that aren't even Olympic ) from ultra-modern constructions that probably have everything included in them.

JYDA
December 14th, 2008, 07:31 AM
I don't understand why they didn't make Da Luz a lot bigger.
Benfica has a strong fan support in Portugal and Lisbon and it's by far nr. 1. There are a lot of "socios" actually twice the number of the seats? Won't more then 65.000 want to come to the games especially the most important ones.
Wouldn't it have been wise to actually make the new Da Luz bigger then the old one?

Average attendance of only 38,000. They didn't sell out a single game last year. Even the home derby with Sporting drew 5000 short of capacity. If anything, 65,000 is too much.

Arist
December 14th, 2008, 08:08 AM
Texas Stadium's history goes back to this man's drawing board

By MICHAEL GRANBERRY / The Dallas Morning News
mgranberry@dallasnews.com
GRANBURY – From the moment running back Duane Thomas glided through the secondary of the New England Patriots for 56 yards en route to the first touchdown scored in Texas Stadium, A. Warren Morey has felt profound pride.

It was Mr. Morey's vision, sketched in pencil on a drawing board, that gave birth to a building that soon became a national icon. Mr. Morey's firm designed the Cowboys' home stadium, which opened in 1971 but is nearing the end of its days as the team's new home goes up in Arlington.

Now 87 and living as a retiree on Pecan Plantation near Granbury, Mr. Morey calls it the crowning achievement of an architectural career that began in 1948.....

See the rest at http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/121408dnspoarchitect.3c6f68e.html

there is also a bit in there That I think states that THis stadium set up the design idea European Soccer stadiums hold to with covering the crowd, not the field.

www.sercan.de
December 14th, 2008, 01:59 PM
What happened to Das Antas?

Nikom
December 14th, 2008, 04:39 PM
So same thing about Alvalade as with Da Luz.
Though, i hate the thing with the seats on Sportings stadium, i think it's kinda g... It doesn't help much when there aren't people, just looks weird.
I admire a lot how Portugal turned from mediocre stadiums ( simple structures ) with athletics fields ( that aren't even Olympic ) from ultra-modern constructions that probably have everything included in them.

But Sporting has a great atletism academy, Francis Obikwelu, silver medal 100m in Athens, Carlos Lopes gold medal marathon 1984 in Los Angeles, and even Joaquim Agostinho the famous portuguese bicycle racer trained in the Alvalade's athletic field.

PaulFCB
December 14th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Average attendance of only 38,000. They didn't sell out a single game last year. Even the home derby with Sporting drew 5000 short of capacity. If anything, 65,000 is too much.

Thats strange since they always hailed Benfica for a big number of fans. I thought it was always sold out...so when i come to Lisbon I know i can find a ticket for sure neither at Benfica or at Sporting :lol:
Maybe the positioning of the stadiums, near the airport, or surrounded by highways and hard access with the local transport has a effect on the number of supporters?

weava
December 14th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Busch 2 being demolished (left) and Busch Stadium the 3rd being built (right)
http://www.jonco48.com/blog/busch1127.jpg
http://www.jonco48.com/blog/buschcam_small1.jpg

KC Municipal. Built as a baseball stadium but also home to NFL football.
http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/past/kcmain.jpg

wearethefuture
December 17th, 2008, 10:10 PM
Maine Road - Moss Side, Manchester

http://www.mcivta.com/gfx/MaineRoad.jpg
Home to Manchester City from 1923 - 2003. Maine Road's record attendance was set in 1934, when 84,569 people attended an FA Cup tie between Manchester City and Stoke City, a record for an English club ground. The capacity when the ground finally closed its doors was 35,150.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/1054287833_4f48b1d1b6_b.jpg
The main stand at Maine Road, one of the older stands at the time.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/11/12978458_a19d3d7b7e.jpg?v=0
The impressive Kippax Stand.

http://www.oldgrounds.co.uk/Maine12.jpg
What was the home end.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2211/2071170570_61bf7baff0.jpg
Photo's of the demolition of the ground;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/image_galleries/len_grant_maine_road_gallery.shtml?1 (Here)

- Information on what has become of the old ground;
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=569853

- City moved to their new ground 'The City of Manchester Stadium' in Eastlands in 2003. More info on their new ground in the SSC thread here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=242581

Bobby3
December 17th, 2008, 10:39 PM
http://www.digitalballparks.com/Southern/Crockett_640_1.html

Crockett Park in Charlotte, North Carolina. Burned down in 1985, was ruled an arson.

It hosted mostly baseball and professional wrestling.

T3amgeist
December 17th, 2008, 11:24 PM
many people say, that these new arenas all look the same. btu in fact, the old stadiums also all looked the same.

Köln - Müngersdorfer Stadion
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/M%C3%BCngersdorfer.jpg
[/img]


Cologne and Bremen were nearly the same! :nuts:

JYDA
December 17th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Thats strange since they always hailed Benfica for a big number of fans. I thought it was always sold out...so when i come to Lisbon I know i can find a ticket for sure neither at Benfica or at Sporting :lol:
Maybe the positioning of the stadiums, near the airport, or surrounded by highways and hard access with the local transport has a effect on the number of supporters?

I think attendance has a lot to do with the Portuguese league. Pounding a bunch of weak teams all year gets old after a while.

wearethefuture
December 17th, 2008, 11:40 PM
Cologne and Bremen were nearly the same! :nuts:

Yea i thought that was Bremen's ground at first! They look incredibly similar, even similar floodlights as well, maybe it was the same architect for both stadiums? Not a terrible loss then considering that its twin brother still exists.

PaulFCB
December 17th, 2008, 11:51 PM
I think attendance has a lot to do with the Portuguese league. Pounding a bunch of weak teams all year gets old after a while.

Yeah, but I was expecting for Benfica to be the exception since I heard it has the most socios in the world and they have like 80% of the fans in Portugal?
Well, it's also strange that neither at the game with Sporting they did not fill the stadium.
Same thing is available for The Netherlands maybe, but I pretty sure Ajax and Feyenoord stadiums can be filled up at least twice the capacity when the play together.

www.sercan.de
December 18th, 2008, 12:16 PM
They started to demolish one stand at Kayseri.
http://www.ajansspor.com/resim/kayseribuyuksehir_yikim.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2703/ykmyd2.jpg

wearethefuture
December 18th, 2008, 11:47 PM
White City Stadium (originally The Great Stadium)
...was built in White City, London, for the 1908 Summer Olympics. Completed in 10 months by George Wimpey, it was opened by King Edward VII on 27 April 1908. Many events of the 1908 Olympics were at the stadium itself (except for several football games hosted at Shepherds Bush Green), whereas nowadays there are many arenas.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/White_City_Stadium_1908.jpg
The stadium was constructed to seat 68,000, built for the Franco-British Exhibition and was considered a technological marvel. It is viewed as the first modern-seater stadium but could hold more than 130,000 with large swathes of terracing. Demolished: 1985

104 years on London is building another purpose-built Olympic venue, but it is not the first.

Torch
December 19th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Rheinstadion Düsseldorf during demolition!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/a/a9/RheinstadionAbriss2002.jpg/800px-RheinstadionAbriss2002.jpg

larsul
December 19th, 2008, 03:28 AM
the old stadium ORO located in Guadalajara, jalisco, Mexico.
it could hold around 10,000 (with a record of 15,305 fans in a game in 51.)
after the jalisco stadium was built this was demolish around 1960.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1356/estadiooroza5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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pedro_sousa
December 19th, 2008, 01:55 PM
But Sporting has a great atletism academy, Francis Obikwelu, silver medal 100m in Athens, Carlos Lopes gold medal marathon 1984 in Los Angeles, and even Joaquim Agostinho the famous portuguese bicycle racer trained in the Alvalade's athletic field.

You are lying. Francis Obikwelu did not train in the old Sporting stadium. He was training in Madrid before the Olympic games in Athens. Sporting just sponsored the athlete.

Benfica's athlete Nelson Evora won the gold medal in the 2008 Olympic Games, in triple jump, but he trained in the Portugal Center of Athletics. Benfica was sponsoring the athlete.

Nikom
December 20th, 2008, 12:46 PM
^^ Sorry my friend, but in 2003, they opened the stadium to see the athletes preparation for the Olympic Games in 2004, and Francis was there training, i saw it with my eyes ;)