A simpler option would be to bring the KJL faregates up to ground level before the escalators descend underground. That way would eliminate a lot of the hassel of constructing and reconstructing with minimal disturbance to the existing layout of the station. Things like faregates and probably a help desk would need to be shifted up then.Brilliant! :banana: :cheers:

The area is already covered and there is a link between the Ampang and Kelana Jaya line (covered up) at one end of Plaza Masjid Jamek.

Building a link to the fare-paid areas across Jalan Tun Perak would be relatively easy, and an expanded farepaid area can be built in the plaza.

Can you please suggest that to Prasarana? I can give you their contact info

Cheers, m

Haha, you mean they've never considered that before? If this manner were applied for the Sentul Timor bound side, it would help as well I'm sure. There is a subway tunnel with an entrance on the Sentul Timor bound side of the APL that could be connected as well. Converting both entrances into fare-paid areas would be easy enough and on one side, the link is more or less complete?

I guess I could suggest it to Prasarana... But would they listen? I'm sure they would give reasons such as lack of space at ground level, etc. Firstly, anyone have any pictures of KJL Masjid Jamek's entrances? Perhaps could get a better view and see if its feasible.

Haha, you mean they've never considered that before? If this manner were applied for the Sentul Timor bound side, it would help as well I'm sure. There is a subway tunnel with an entrance on the Sentul Timor bound side of the APL that could be connected as well. Converting both entrances into fare-paid areas would be easy enough and on one side, the link is more or less complete?


I think mrt means something like this ?

the mess which is Masjid Jamek Now
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/bukhrin/MasjidJamekcurrently.png

Righting some wrongs
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/bukhrin/MasjidJamekcheapest2.png

Sorry bout the pics if they're too big.

really it can solve the mess.

It really depends how the tunneling is going to be!What if the station is actually underneath jalan tun perak interchange with leboh ampang and link to the station via underground walkways.

It really depends how the tunneling is going to be!What if the station is actually underneath jalan tun perak interchange with leboh ampang and link to the station via underground walkways.you mean the Masjid Jamek Kelana Jaya line station? It is not under Jalan Tun Perak

I think that diagram is a suitable and simple solution. All that is needed is to include lifts or to build wheelchair lifts (like that one at the KLCC walkway that no one can use).

Id like to see real lifts and a concourse area over the station.

So can we revise the diagram to show where the lifts would go? And I would be happy to post this to TRANSIT or share your ideas and your diagrams with Prasarana...or the media if needed. It seems like a simple, low-tech solution which is what we need.

Cheers, m

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/bukhrin/MasjidJamekcheapest3.png

For the current lifts;

EL1 = Current lift from the free access area (next to the ATMs) to Plaza.
EL2 = KJ platforms to paid area past the fare gates

would still need;
EL3 = a lift at the other end of the underpass just before the escalator up to entrance B.

This 3 lifts will provide barrier free access to the KJ platforms and ST and SP/AG paid areas. But sadly not to the platforms.

At this point having lifts to the platforms would be kinda hard and expensive, seeing that the flipping station is after all squatting on the Klang river. But as a stop gap measure, i think we could push for them to install stair lifts for the disabled.

Notes
*1 - There's a small secluded exit here. they could place 1 or 2 fare gates here or just blocked it off.

with the extensions coming up, Masjid Jamek would be the biggest and probably busiest station in the network, so having up to 4 (or 5) exits is not exactly an overkill

It's kind of dirty and cheap, and I'm just throwing things up in the air anyway, so feel free to add in if there's gaps to this approach :)

allurban,

I'm okay if you want to use the pics, just tell me if you need me to brushed it up or anything

I like your idea, it looks straightforward and simple to implement!

In your idea, just need to build an underground passage connecting between Ampang line station (Sentul Timur side) and the Kelana Jaya station. The underground passage entrances, located within paid area, that makes it an effective method of integration of stations within that area.

The current plaza building, was open in 2008, now it is 2010, i wonder if they are still thinking how to do it?

Anyway, the plaza is quite spacious, there is no problem at all if we want to make quite a few entrances/exits in the plaza and a lot of faregates can be easily installed in that plaza...

From this point of view,

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7599/1000750z.jpg

you can see the plaza and the Sri Petaling/Ampang side of the station are actually, located next to each other.

For a start, we can connect Sri Petaling/ Ampang side of the station with the Kelana Jaya line by linking both stations, via Sri Petaling/ Ampang faregates. If this is done, the left stair, can be closed and used only as an emergency exit, as passengers can enter via the existing Sri Petaling/ Ampang faregates.

Er, make this as entrance....
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5333/1000749x.jpg

The other side of the plaza can be used as another entrance, facing Bank Mualamat and surrounding areas...

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3654/1000753.jpg

I like your idea, it looks straightforward and simple to implement!

In your idea, just need to build an underground passage connecting between Ampang line station (Sentul Timur side) and the Kelana Jaya station. The underground passage entrances, located within paid area, that makes it an effective method of integration of stations within that area.



Hi TWK,

It's cheapest because the underpass is already there.

Currently it's underutilized right now since most people would prefer to scramble across jalan Tun Perak to get to the Ampang/SP/KJ trains.

If they can dumped 5 million ringgit for the plaza, I guess they can scrounge some small changes for the simple connection between the Entrance B and the Sentul Timur bound paid area.

The underpass that you mean, is the existing underpass from HSBC side to the Kelana Jaya line?

Ah, i did not notice, from the map, i thought it is new one, until i look at your map again :)

He he, yeah, that one.

Now it's kind of spooky to go through the underpass, dodgy area, what with shifty peoples hanging around. The very least they should put one of their auxiliary police there, instead of having two people checking for forged rapidpass at the faregates.

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/bukhrin/MasjidJamekcheapest3.png

It's kind of dirty and cheap, and I'm just throwing things up in the air anyway, so feel free to add in if there's gaps to this approach :)

allurban,

I'm okay if you want to use the pics, just tell me if you need me to brushed it up or anythingthanks for the images, Bukhrin. I think that this would be relatively simple and worth discussing with Prasarana.

MRTfreak, actually, I do not know if they have thought of this....but I think it is a simple and brilliant solution. The only concern I have is that we still need to find a simple accessibility solution for the Ampang line station.



Cheers, m

thanks for the images, Bukhrin. I think that this would be relatively simple and worth discussing with Prasarana.

MRTfreak, actually, I do not know if they have thought of this....but I think it is a simple and brilliant solution. The only concern I have is that we still need to find a simple accessibility solution for the Ampang line station.

Cheers, m
@ Bukhrin: Exactly what I had thought of! Thanks for putting it into a diagram for people to understand. :)

@ allurban: Indeed a much simpler solution since it is merely reconfiguring the infrastructure. I suggested this because when I was at Masjid Jamek on the APL in December, I noticed a staircase between the access points to the platform which would've lead to the plaza, but has been boarded up. I thought that they would've had another entrance there with APL faregates so that it would be a covered link all the way to the APL station. Guess not... But this is what they could do almost entirely by Prasarana's ownself, with little need for external contractors. What can be done as far as lifts on APL are concerned are to have them on either side and serve 3 levels...

G - APL entrances, link to KJL station
1 - APL platform
2 - Connection to opposite platform by bridge across tracks

@ TWK90: Thanks for the photos. Greatly helps to understand the area. Did not get to use the Plaza the last time I was there, so haven't the slightest idea of how the entrance looks.

Any update for LRT Extension ? Are they started construction ?

Any update for LRT Extension ? Are they started construction ?they have to get full approval first. Then they have to give out the tenders. Wait until April or May.

Cheers, m

^^ thank you for info but how you know they would start at april or may ?

^^ thank you for info but how you know they would start at april or may ?Local councillors in MPSJ have to give final approval to the land use changes - this will probably take place in February.

MBSA has to give approval to the LRT route - this will also probably take place in February.

Final approval will probably be given in March and then contractors have to be announced. That takes you into April.

Then you have the actual construction startup - which will take a few weeks.

So you are already in May.

Cheers, m

Waiting...waiting & hoping......

Allurban or anyone,

Do we have a diagram of some sort for the Putra Height station, will it really be a one-building integrated station? or is it just two stations sandwiched next to each other, you know, like most of our 'integrated' stations.

Allurban or anyone,

Do we have a diagram of some sort for the Putra Height station, will it really be a one-building integrated station? or is it just two stations sandwiched next to each other, you know, like most of our 'integrated' stations.I dont think I have a diagram of Putra Heights.

As I recall, the platforms are supposed to be stacked, I think the Ampang line will be below and the Kelana Jaya line above.

Cheers, m

i prefer KJL at below

[QUOTE=allurban;

As I recall, the platforms are supposed to be stacked, I think the Ampang line will be below and the Kelana Jaya line above.

:bash:So they simply dont have enough land for that to happenlah]:ohno:

It's a side/island platforms station. Can't wait to see how they're going to stacked them up together. At least only need to climb down/up stairs to change trains this time.

Since its a new development, I hope they share the same platform at different sides (ie island platform) for the convenience of commuters.

Since its a new development, I hope they share the same platform at different sides (ie island platform) for the convenience of commuters.you mean, KJ line on one side and Ampang line on the other side?

The problem with that is that they use two separate technologies. If they were both using LIM or both using 3rd rail then it would be possible.

We will probably see the line using centre platforms.

It should be concourse, Ampang line, Kelana Jaya line...as far as I know.

Cheers, m

@ Bukhrin: Exactly what I had thought of! Thanks for putting it into a diagram for people to understand. :)

@ allurban: Indeed a much simpler solution since it is merely reconfiguring the infrastructure. I suggested this because when I was at Masjid Jamek on the APL in December, I noticed a staircase between the access points to the platform which would've lead to the plaza, but has been boarded up. I thought that they would've had another entrance there with APL faregates so that it would be a covered link all the way to the APL station. Guess not... But this is what they could do almost entirely by Prasarana's ownself, with little need for external contractors. What can be done as far as lifts on APL are concerned are to have them on either side and serve 3 levels...

G - APL entrances, link to KJL station
1 - APL platform
2 - Connection to opposite platform by bridge across tracks

@ TWK90: Thanks for the photos. Greatly helps to understand the area. Did not get to use the Plaza the last time I was there, so haven't the slightest idea of how the entrance looks.
Hi everyone

Here is the posting on the TRANSIT website.
http://transitmy.org/2010/02/10/proposed-improvements-for-masjid-jamek-interchange/

The deadline for sending the tender document to Prasarana is today. So we are going to email a synopsis of the proposal to the MD of Prasarana this afternoon.

Cheers, m

Since its a new development, I hope they share the same platform at different sides (ie island platform) for the convenience of commuters.

That would be the very least i would like to see happen.Going up and down :stairs is the last thing for a ground level station:bash:Kelana Jaya i would understand due space limitation

That would be the very least i would like to see happen.Going up and down :stairs is the last thing for a ground level station:bash:Kelana Jaya i would understand due space limitationthey have space limitations in Putra Heights too...the station is being built in at the edge of the planned commercial centre. One side is the commercial centre and the other is the hillside leading down to the ELITE highway.

We cannot build it like Ampang Jaya station, with entrance on one side and a stairway to climb or a movable bridge. Remember, the depot will be in Aman Suria, east of Putra Heights...so there has to be two tracks at each station.

There also has to be space for tailtracks. Remember what happened at Sentul Timur and Seri Petaling?

Cheers, m

Hi everyone

Here is the posting on the TRANSIT website.
http://transitmy.org/2010/02/10/proposed-improvements-for-masjid-jamek-interchange/

The deadline for sending the tender document to Prasarana is today. So we are going to email a synopsis of the proposal to the MD of Prasarana this afternoon.

Cheers, m
Nice! Keep us updated on the development? Thanks in advance. :)

The idea could look something like this, with the part inside the red dotted line cut out for connection to the APL. The area where the people are walking would be the fare-paid area.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5568/kjlaplmasjidjamekinterc.jpg

they have space limitations in Putra Heights too...the station is being built in at the edge of the planned commercial centre. One side is the commercial centre and the other is the hillside leading down to the ELITE highway.

We cannot build it like Ampang Jaya station, with entrance on one side and a stairway to climb or a movable bridge. Remember, the depot will be in Aman Suria, east of Putra Heights...so there has to be two tracks at each station.

There also has to be space for tailtracks. Remember what happened at Sentul Timur and Seri Petaling?

Cheers, m
I wonder, have they considered a stacked configuration? :lol: Where one side of the platform belong to the KJL and the other the APL. In this way, passengers coming from Subang/Gombak can simply walk across to a Sentul Timor-bound train and vice-versa.

Nice! Keep us updated on the development? Thanks in advance. :)

The idea could look something like this, with the part inside the red dotted line cut out for connection to the APL. The area where the people are walking would be the fare-paid area.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5568/kjlaplmasjidjamekinterc.jpg.
MRTfreak...it certainly looks different when you add those effects to the photo. Can I place your photo to the TRANSIT website?

I wonder, have they considered a stacked configuration? :lol: Where one side of the platform belong to the KJL and the other the APL. In this way, passengers coming from Subang/Gombak can simply walk across to a Sentul Timor-bound train and vice-versa.you're referring to a twisted stacked configuration. As I said, it would be a nice idea but it is not likely to happen.

First, the additional engineering costs of building a twisted stacked configuration are going to be higher than a regular stacked configuration.

Second, Putra Heights is a terminus station for both lines and turnaround time must be kept to a minimum. That means it is necessary to have 2 available platforms for turnaround.

Third, if you are building a twisted stacked configuration you need to have two stations to allow transfers in each direction. That is why you usually will see two stations for transfers - eg:

Singapore - City Hall & Raffles Place for the NS Line and EW Line interchanges;
Hong Kong - Admiralty & Central for the Island Line and Tsuen Wan Line interchange;
Hong Kong - Prince Edward & Mong Kok for the Tsuen Wan Line - Kwun Tong Line interchange;
Hong Kong - North Point & Quarry Bay for the Island Line - Tseung Kwan O line interchange;
Hong Kong - Yau Tong & Tiu Keng Leng for the Kwun Tong Line - Tseung Kwan O line interchange.

Or you end up with the massive structure of Siam Square on the Bangkok Skytrain.

Last, it is tough to build a twisted stacked interchange if the trains use two different traction and power systems.

So having two different systems on two different levels, with multiple lifts, staircases and escalators, is probably the best choice for Putra Heights.

Cheers, m

The idea could look something like this, with the part inside the red dotted line cut out for connection to the APL. The area where the people are walking would be the fare-paid area.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5568/kjlaplmasjidjamekinterc.jpg



Beyond those hoardings is the Klang river (you can see the Bank Muamalat HQ building and the railings for the short stairs to the KJ station entrance)

The partition for the SP/Ampg paid area is the one behind the photographer.

But great work anyway.

Hurrmm. as for the ticketing machines, why can't they just integrate it with TnGo as well.

MRTfreak...it certainly looks different when you add those effects to the photo. Can I place your photo to the TRANSIT website?
I'm fine with that as long as TWK is, since that photo was the basis of the editing. Sorry for going ahead without the permission and editing on it.

you're referring to a twisted stacked configuration. As I said, it would be a nice idea but it is not likely to happen.

First, the additional engineering costs of building a twisted stacked configuration are going to be higher than a regular stacked configuration.

Second, Putra Heights is a terminus station for both lines and turnaround time must be kept to a minimum. That means it is necessary to have 2 available platforms for turnaround.

Third, if you are building a twisted stacked configuration you need to have two stations to allow transfers in each direction. That is why you usually will see two stations for transfers - eg:

Singapore - City Hall & Raffles Place for the NS Line and EW Line interchanges;
Hong Kong - Admiralty & Central for the Island Line and Tsuen Wan Line interchange;
Hong Kong - Prince Edward & Mong Kok for the Tsuen Wan Line - Kwun Tong Line interchange;
Hong Kong - North Point & Quarry Bay for the Island Line - Tseung Kwan O line interchange;
Hong Kong - Yau Tong & Tiu Keng Leng for the Kwun Tong Line - Tseung Kwan O line interchange.

Or you end up with the massive structure of Siam Square on the Bangkok Skytrain.

Last, it is tough to build a twisted stacked interchange if the trains use two different traction and power systems.

So having two different systems on two different levels, with multiple lifts, staircases and escalators, is probably the best choice for Putra Heights.

Cheers, m
Understood. Just playing out ideas. For Putra Heights though, its an interesting situation given that it is also the terminus for both lines. As such, it could function with a single platform with cross-platform interchange as trains would pull in at the same level. This would negate the necessity for 2 cross-platform interchange stations for it to work. But as you mentioned, they also need another track for turn-around. Double stacked then? But I guess it gets more complex then.

Beyond those hoardings is the Klang river (you can see the Bank Muamalat HQ building and the railings for the short stairs to the KJ station entrance)

The partition for the SP/Ampg paid area is the one behind the photographer.

But great work anyway.

Hurrmm. as for the ticketing machines, why can't they just integrate it with TnGo as well.
Whoops! :doh: That happens when you try to make suggestion to things you don't know 100% about.

What about the idea to make the masjid jamek station into a large complex that comprise not only lrt but water taxi?
But I saw so many construction that covers up the river bank....

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4098/lrtextension.jpg
PIC that i edited.
Purple line may be the tram to connect Sunway to the nearest and the green line may be the monorail line connecting Setia Jaya Komuter station.
It may be different to other ones.

What about the idea to make the masjid jamek station into a large complex that comprise not only lrt but water taxi?
But I saw so many construction that covers up the river bank....

:cheers:i really wish that was the case from day 1!!!Its a shame they simply dont have the space.:ohno:What :ohno:What a shame.The river looks like a b:ohno:big longkang more than anything else:bash:

Allurban i think the water taxi idea is something DBKL should have considered long time ago!
Just imagine taking a ferry from ampang all the way to anywhere in town!Wishfull thinking on my partlah but once the smart tunnel is in operation i would reconsider it for the future.

Allurban i think the water taxi idea is something DBKL should have considered long time ago!
Just imagine taking a ferry from ampang all the way to anywhere in town!Wishfull thinking on my partlah but once the smart tunnel is in operation i would reconsider it for the future.It's not too crazy as an idea but there has to be some very important infrastructure in place before it can be done.

For one thing, the SMART tunnel has to be operating, the holding ponds on the Klang and Gombak rivers have to be complete and the river banks for both rivers will have to be rebuilt and hopefully naturalized.

But in terms of moving people, what can the water taxi accomplish that the existing LRT cannot? It wont provide a great view of the city, it's not like the Malacca river which has interesting buildings on both sides and it meanders around.

Cheers, m

It's not too crazy as an idea but there has to be some very important infrastructure in place before it can be done.

For one thing, the SMART tunnel has to be operating, the holding ponds on the Klang and Gombak rivers have to be complete and the river banks for both rivers will have to be rebuilt and hopefully naturalized.

But in terms of moving people, what can the water taxi accomplish that the existing LRT cannot? It wont provide a great view of the city, it's not like the Malacca river which has interesting buildings on both sides and it meanders around.

Cheers, m

The river's also not incredibly wide and would end up creating a bottleneck situation like in a typical road in KL.

17 qualify to bid for RM7b LRT contracts
Published: 2010/04/29

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/lrt28/pix_bottom

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd said 17 applicants have qualified to bid for contracts of about RM7 billion to extend light rail transit (LRT) lines in the Klang Valley.

They include firms like Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, IJM Construction Sdn Bhd, Muhibbah Engineering Sdn Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, MRCB Engineering Sdn Bhd as well as joint ventures such as WCT-Sinohydro, Ranhill-CCCC, UEM Builders-Intria Bina and Zabima-Leighton.

State-owned public transport operator Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said the candidates prequalified as the main contractor for "their technical and financial capacity and capability with the relevant infrastructure works experience".

Another 15 candidates were shortlisted for the subcontracting of fabrication and delivery of segmental box girder works.

Idrose said the main contractor and subcontractor will be notified officially in due course by Prasarana.

Prasarana is raising RM4 billion from bond sales to partfinance the project to extend the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines.

The extension forms part of the RM10 billion railway scheme to expand Kuala Lumpur's public transport network.

Idrose said the company was awaiting final approval on the railway scheme from the Department of Railways and would begin construction on receiving the green light.

Both extended lines are expected to be ready for use by the end of 2012.

Idrose added that 65 companies had expressed interest to be the main contractor, while another 36 are seeking to be both the main contractor and a subcontractor.

Another 17 applicants indicated their interest to qualify only as a subcontractor.

Prasarana had issued the request for prequalification on November 3 last year and closed acceptance a month later.

Idrose said that 166 applicants purchased the prequalification documents, but only 118 had made their submissions by the closing date on December 16.

AmResearch Sdn Bhd analyst Mak Hoy Ken reckoned that UEM Group, IJM and Gamuda are the leading contenders for the project, while MTD Cap Bhd potentially stands to gain from subcontracting works.

"We do not discount the possibility of local consortiums being formed for other contractors to participate at subcontractor level. This would include WCT and Loh & Loh Corp Bhd," he said in a report yesterday.

Mak said this news would be positive as well for suppliers of building materials such as Ann Joo Resources Bhd and Lion Industries Bhd, with a significant portion of steel required for extension works.

He has an "overweight" rating on the construction sector.

OSK's picks for RM7b LRT project
Published: 2010/04/29

Several companies seem to have an edge among the 17 pre-qualified applicants to be the main contractor for the RM7 billion Light Rail Transit (LRT) project covering the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines, says OSK Research.

In an investment research report today, OSK, which has maintained its overweight rating on the construction sector, also named Gamuda, IJM, WCT, MRCB and Mudajaya as among the potential winners based on their track record.

The LRT project is set to begin later this year and the contract will reportedly be awarded in the next two months.

The full list of pre-qualified applicants comprises Sunway Holdings, Fajarbaru Builder - Signatium Construction SB, WCT - Sinohydro JV, IJM Corp, Ranhill - CCCC JV, Muhibbah Engineering, Gamuda, UEM Builders - Intria Bina SB, MMC Corp - Zelan, MRCB, TRC Synergy, BPHB - Tim Sekata JV, Zabima - Leighton JV, Mudajaya Group, MTDC -Persys JV, Loh&Loh Corp and Ahmad Zaki Resources.

"We expect the bidding competition among the prequalified contractors to be intense.

"While it is rather difficult to pinpoint the likely winner at this juncture, contractors with a relevant track record, have a better chance," OSK Research said.

OSK Research indicated that Gamuda had the necessary expertise to undertake the job, given its experience with the Kaohsiung MRT in Taiwan.

It noted too that IJM and Road Builders were among the main sub-contractors for the existing line.

"On the other hand, MRCB was involved in the existing LRT portion at KL Sentral," it said.

It also said Mudajaya is a likely beneficiary as it previously constructed some stations for the current line and was also involved in the KLIA transit track.

UEM Builders, according to OSK Research, was the main contractor for the current line.

"As pricing is the key determinant, we think competitive contractors like WCT, to also stand a strong winning chance," OSK Research said.

The 17km Kelana Jaya line will have 13 stations, extending from the existing Kelana Jaya station into Subang Jaya and USJ.

The 17.7km Ampang line meanwhle, has 13 stations and will begin from the existing Sri Petaling station, and pass through Kinrara in Puchong.

Both lines end at Putra Heights, which will also serve as an interchange.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) has submitted the final Railway Scheme to the Department of Railways and is awating approval before construction commences. -- Bernama

Experienced contractors have the edge in LRT extension project
By LEE KIAN SEONG Friday April 30, 2010

PETALING JAYA: Contractors with the relevant track record in the light rail transit (LRT) are expected to have a better chance to be the winners in the RM7bil LRT extension project in the Klang Valley.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd said on Wednesday that it had prequalified 17 companies as main contractors for the Ampang and Kelana Jaya LRT extension lines.

It had also prequalified 15 applicants for the subcontracting role involving the fabrication and delivery of segmental box girders (SBGs).

OSK Research analyst Jeremy Goh said the bidding competition was expected to be intense among the prequalified contractors for the LRT project and those with a relevant track record would stand a better chance.

“We reckon that Gamuda Bhd has the necessary expertise to undertake the job given its experience with the Kaohsiung MRT in Taiwan while IJM and Road Builders were among the main subcontractors for the existing line,” he said.
He pointed out that Malaysian Resources Corp Bhd (MRCB) was involved in the existing LRT portion at KL Sentral while Mudajaya was also a likely beneficiary as it previously constructed some of the stations for the current line and was also involved in the KL International Airport track transit.

“Unlisted UEM Builders Bhd was the main contractor for the current line,” he added.

However, he said competitive contractors like WCT stood a strong winning chance as pricing would also be the key determinant.

OSK Research retains its “overweight” rating on the construction industry due to the positive sentiment in the sector and on expectations the sector would be fuelled by more positive news flow in the coming months.

Based on balance sheet strength and past experience alone, HwangDBS Vickers Research viewed that Gamuda and IJM were the strongest contenders.

“In any case, IJM, MRCB, WCT and Sunway have also been shortlisted for the subcontractor role which hedges their bets somewhat,” it said, adding that UEM Builders was also seen as the front runner.

As for potential winners, AmResearch Sdn Bhd analyst Mak Hoy Ken said: “We reckon that the UEM Group – along with IJM and Gamuda – are leading contenders.”

He does not discount the possibility of local consortiums being formed for other contractors to participate at the subcontract level, which would include WCT and Loh & Loh Corp Bhd. “MTD Cap Bhd also potentially stands to gain from sub-contracting works under the SBGs – they are among the largest suppliers in Malaysia with an estimated capacity of 6 million tonnes,” Mak noted.

Kenanga Research expected the estimated RM7bil contracts to be divided into several smaller packages. “If any of the large cap contractors like IJM, Gamuda and WCT Engineering does not secure contracts of at least RM1bil, it would be a huge disappointment and could trigger investors to lock in profits then,” it said.

Klang river have alot difference compared with the Thames in London.

Klang river water level can be very low when it is not raining, and can flood us when raining. Klang river water level is not stable, so building the water taxi pier will be a big problem for DBKL.

Got people say Klang river is narrow for navigation. I say no, it is wide enough when KL is going to flood.

Rapid ferry service from KL to Klang? Maybe feasable. But how rapid it will be if compared to express bus, or dedicated KL-Klang railway service, or even Klang-KL HSR in future?.

If HSR then 10 second it will reach klang...

Klang river have alot difference compared with the Thames in London.

Klang river water level can be very low when it is not raining, and can flood us when raining. Klang river water level is not stable, so building the water taxi pier will be a big problem for DBKL.

Got people say Klang river is narrow for navigation. I say no, it is wide enough when KL is going to flood.

Rapid ferry service from KL to Klang? Maybe feasable. But how rapid it will be if compared to express bus, or dedicated KL-Klang railway service, or even Klang-KL HSR in future?.

i dont think it not a problem if the water taxi operate in klang...

for kl and ampang,..woo u guys never see the river when it raining ker..damn scary

just imagine you peacefully cruising then suddenly turn into white water rafting..

on the other hands seeing screaming tourist while raining might be funlah..so plz build it...

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4098/lrtextension.jpg
PIC that i edited.
Purple line may be the tram to connect Sunway to the nearest and the green line may be the monorail line connecting Setia Jaya Komuter station.
It may be different to other ones.

why 2 different transit system bro??
why not just both be the extension of now defunct sunway monorail...

it could be KV version of Sg LRT..

i propose 2 options:

using the former alignment of sunway monorail and build LRT (this LRT I mean is LRT like in Singapore, more or less like people mover)

materialize the scrapped proposal of KL Monorail, which the line extend to Kg. Pasir, then from Kg. Pasir extend to SS18 KJL LRT station via Sunway, Bukit Sentosa and Kg. Medan. This can solve the problem of PJS area lack rapid transit service. the alignment can take NPE or Sungai Klang, or demolish some houses, the monorail go through the residential areas in PJS.

Rapid ferry service from KL to Klang? Maybe feasable. But how rapid it will be if compared to express bus, or dedicated KL-Klang railway service, or even Klang-KL HSR in future?.

Klang is no small city, it is very large part of urban area within Klang Valley, with population of more than 1 million, even higher than PJ itself.

Klang - KL HSR? Unnecessary..

Improve the existing KTM track will do.

Buy more EMUs, take some EMUs for limited stop service along the route, replace the existing shuttle train (hybrid) with those new EMUs, with different seating option....should improve the travel time between KL-Klang.

Lets see the existing shuttle train services during peak hour.

http://www.ktmb.com.my/Story.aspx?id=3319

• Shah Alam
• Batu Tiga
• Subang Jaya
• Setia Jaya
• Kg.Dato Harun
• Petaling
• Pantai Dalam
• KL Sentral
• Kuala Lumpur
• Bank Negara
• Putra

The acceleration of EMU is faster than those of locomotive hauled train, so.....i think this can be extended to Klang using new EMUs without adding too long of journey time over the existing shuttle train, or might be faster because it is EMU, not locomotive.

Klang is no small city, it is very large part of urban area within Klang Valley, with population of more than 1 million, even higher than PJ itself.

Klang - KL HSR? Unnecessary..

Improve the existing KTM track will do.

Buy more EMUs, take some EMUs for limited stop service along the route, replace the existing shuttle train (hybrid) with those new EMUs, with different seating option....should improve the travel time between KL-Klang.

Lets see the existing shuttle train services during peak hour.

http://www.ktmb.com.my/Story.aspx?id=3319

• Shah Alam
• Batu Tiga
• Subang Jaya
• Setia Jaya
• Kg.Dato Harun
• Petaling
• Pantai Dalam
• KL Sentral
• Kuala Lumpur
• Bank Negara
• Putra

The acceleration of EMU is faster than those of locomotive hauled train, so.....i think this can be extended to Klang using new EMUs without adding too long of journey time over the existing shuttle train, or might be faster because it is EMU, not locomotive.

I propose three type of komuter service as Japan do: Local, Express, and Limited Express. Of course, express and limited express pay more. They can use electronic ticketing system (ID Card), that the door opens only for Express and Limited Express tickets, and the electronic device do the extra charge on express or limited express service. (Similiar with First Class ticketing system in Hong Kong MTR East Rail Line) Of course if such system implemented, we still need a staff to check at the door see got any people board the train without valid ticket.

I propose three type of komuter service as Japan do: Local, Express, and Limited Express. Of course, express and limited express pay more. They can use electronic ticketing system (ID Card), that the door opens only for Express and Limited Express tickets, and the electronic device do the extra charge on express or limited express service. (Similiar with First Class ticketing system in Hong Kong MTR East Rail Line) Of course if such system implemented, we still need a staff to check at the door see got any people board the train without valid ticket.

Very hard, if the line is only double track...

If you look at JR West Urban Network around Osaka, some of their lines are four tracks instead of two tracks, hence they can run many services in very high frequency. JR Kyoto line are example......consists of four tracks, so they have local (futsu), rapid (kaisoku) and special rapid (shin-kaisoku)...

Shin Kaisoku or the special rapid service train can travel from Kyoto to Osaka (42.8 km) in just 27 minutes.

The most i think, when the Komuter really runs at 7.5 minutes interval, i think we can only add another train service...which is limited-stop Komuter.

[QUOTE=project aliciel;56189263]i propose 2 options:

using the former alignment of sunway monorail and build LRT (this LRT I mean is LRT like in Singapore, more or less like people mover)
/QUOTE]

the monorail track is still there..

it make more sence just to retrieve and extended the monorail, then to pull it down and build something new...

Very hard, if the line is only double track...

If you look at JR West Urban Network around Osaka, some of their lines are four tracks instead of two tracks, hence they can run many services in very high frequency. JR Kyoto line are example......consists of four tracks, so they have local (futsu), rapid (kaisoku) and special rapid (shin-kaisoku)...

Shin Kaisoku or the special rapid service train can travel from Kyoto to Osaka (42.8 km) in just 27 minutes.

The most i think, when the Komuter really runs at 7.5 minutes interval, i think we can only add another train service...which is limited-stop Komuter.

agreed. KTMB must have more EMU for this. Current fleet can't implement such service.

in case of quadruple track, not in twenty years. (Klang Valley need total population of at least 15 million to sustain it, with West Klang Valley (Klang and Port Klang) have 3 million population (current's triple). Current Klang Valley population is 7.2 million, (data from Wikipedia, I think is combined statistics and calculation of population lives under jurisdiction of DBKL, MPAJ, MPS, MPKj, MBPJ, MPSJ, MBSA, MPK, Perbadanan Putrajaya (not sure))

Lets see...

KTM track

- Freight
- Intercity
- ETS
- Commuter (Komuter)

Thankfully, a number of stations around Klang Valley have 4 tracks, meaning a train can stop at that station, then another faster train passes through that station.

I think that the railway stretch from Batu Junction to KL Sentral need 4 tracks. Two tracks dedicated for express and freight, reduce the time of crossing the railway switches in KL - KL Sentral stretch that slowers the train ALOT.

But it will be massive project with lots of land acquisitions. *>.<*

Lets see...

KTM track

- Freight
- Intercity
- ETS
- Commuter (Komuter)

Thankfully, a number of stations around Klang Valley have 4 tracks, meaning a train can stop at that station, then another faster train passes through that station.

To have efficient Komuter system, they need to divert the freight train from Klang Valley main line or make the train shorter which more faster..maybe 5 or 6 car at the back per train...

Project Aliciel's suggestion on Sunway Monorail & discussion to reuse existing infrastructure
^^ Perhaps a good option to do so since about 40% of it is gone? They can just expand it as such.

As for the KTM tracking...
The sections where there are 4 tracks are found at major stations which serve denser areas. These are the important ones which should be stopped at unfortunately. The halts which are minor stops only have 2 tracks usually. It should really be the other way around though, with halts having 4 tracks so limited express services can bypass the local services and stations having 2 tracks as all trains would stop here.

as you see the land availability in bank negara and putra station, it will be challenging to the engineers.

Well, another problem is the tunnel between Kuala Lumpur station and Bank Negara. It is not wide enough for 3 tracks.

well you can always go underground....

or to make it cheaper without the need for land acquisitions and tunneling,...build a parallel track about the existing one..

current track for batu caves bound, the above for north-south bound

Project Aliciel's suggestion on Sunway Monorail & discussion to reuse existing infrastructure
^^ Perhaps a good option to do so since about 40% of it is gone? They can just expand it as such.

As for the KTM tracking...
The sections where there are 4 tracks are found at major stations which serve denser areas. These are the important ones which should be stopped at unfortunately. The halts which are minor stops only have 2 tracks usually. It should really be the other way around though, with halts having 4 tracks so limited express services can bypass the local services and stations having 2 tracks as all trains would stop here.good point. There are also segments of triple tracking along the Port Klang subdivision but they are inconsistent and incomplete. You have 2 tracks from Angkasapuri and the 3rd track appears at Petaling (as I recall) then disappears around Kg. Dato Harun - then it reappears around Setia Jaya then disappears

If they could have a consistent 3rd track they could have a real 'commuter' service (one-way) in the mornings and evenings that bypass the halts.

Once they get the freight trains off the Port Klang sub.....

Cheers, m

as you see the land availability in bank negara and putra station, it will be challenging to the engineers.
Well, Bank Negara and Putra are stations on the shared segment which all trains should stop at so that commuters can transfer between lines. Also, these stations are smack in the centre of the federal area, thus more people are likely to use them, hence two tracks would be sufficient.

good point. There are also segments of triple tracking along the Port Klang subdivision but they are inconsistent and incomplete. You have 2 tracks from Angkasapuri and the 3rd track appears at Petaling (as I recall) then disappears around Kg. Dato Harun - then it reappears around Setia Jaya then disappears

If they could have a consistent 3rd track they could have a real 'commuter' service (one-way) in the mornings and evenings that bypass the halts.

Once they get the freight trains off the Port Klang sub.....

Cheers, m
There is also a third track that could be used from the Bangsar junction to around Abdullah Hukum area. It isn't electrified and rarely used, but am sure it too can be upgraded and hence forth used to speed up Komuter operations.

The third track from Petaling is quite dilapidated if I remember correct and was linked to a factory around the Kg. Dato Harun area, hence its dissapearing act. The Setia Jaya one is roughly the same too, linked to a factory area. Batu Tiga also has numerous sidings, but I think these could be converted for sure.

Well, Bank Negara and Putra are stations on the shared segment which all trains should stop at so that commuters can transfer between lines. Also, these stations are smack in the centre of the federal area, thus more people are likely to use them, hence two tracks would be sufficient.


What I mean is, if both station have four tracks, two tracks for North-South, two tracks for Batu Caves-Port Klang, then two lines won't share same track, then it able to give much more frequent train service for both line. If I not wrong, currently for both North-South and Batu Caves-Port Klang is 16 minute per train, because both North-South and Batu Caves-Port Klang shares the same track from Putra to KL Sentral, hence, there are 8 minute per train in sector Putra-KL Sentral but 16 minutes for the rest, which reduces maximum passengers carried per hour. And four track all along Putra-KL Sentral sector could divert the express and freight train to the 3rd and 4th track, increase the smoothness of Komuter service.

So now planning to add tracks?
Maybe the Outer Ring Rail that is said to be not possible to be built may be one of the solution.

What I mean is, if both station have four tracks, two tracks for North-South, two tracks for Batu Caves-Port Klang, then two lines won't share same track, then it able to give much more frequent train service for both line. If I not wrong, currently for both North-South and Batu Caves-Port Klang is 16 minute per train, because both North-South and Batu Caves-Port Klang shares the same track from Putra to KL Sentral, hence, there are 8 minute per train in sector Putra-KL Sentral but 16 minutes for the rest, which reduces maximum passengers carried per hour. And four track all along Putra-KL Sentral sector could divert the express and freight train to the 3rd and 4th track, increase the smoothness of Komuter service.
Good thinking there. Probably true that separation of the lines would enable increased frequency on the common stretch. However, there still is a limiting factor - the lines do cross each other. Tanjung Malim - Rawang - Seremban is a north-south running line while Pel. Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves is an east-west running line. It is inevitable that they would have to cross each other. Unless KTM installs flying junctions, perhaps then separation would be good. Flying junctions are viaducted junctions, similar to the one on the Ampang line at Chan Sow Lin. The tracks are not on the same level.

Another option could be to change the lines to be a north-west and a south-east running. That would make it Pel. Klang - Rawang - Tanjong Malim and Seremban - Sentul - Batu Caves. That way the lines wouldn't cross each other and lead to signaling delays and such. Frequency could probably still be maintained then. A third option would be to split it into 4 lines. Tanjong Malim - Rawang - KL Sentral for northern sector, Batu Caves - Sentul - KL Sentral for eastern sector, Seremban - KL Sentral for southern sector and Pel. Klang - KL Sentral for western sector.

Good thinking there. Probably true that separation of the lines would enable increased frequency on the common stretch. However, there still is a limiting factor - the lines do cross each other. Tanjung Malim - Rawang - Seremban is a north-south running line while Pel. Klang - Sentul - Batu Caves is an east-west running line. It is inevitable that they would have to cross each other. Unless KTM installs flying junctions, perhaps then separation would be good. Flying junctions are viaducted junctions, similar to the one on the Ampang line at Chan Sow Lin. The tracks are not on the same level.

Another option could be to change the lines to be a north-west and a south-east running. That would make it Pel. Klang - Rawang - Tanjong Malim and Seremban - Sentul - Batu Caves. That way the lines wouldn't cross each other and lead to signaling delays and such. Frequency could probably still be maintained then. A third option would be to split it into 4 lines. Tanjong Malim - Rawang - KL Sentral for northern sector, Batu Caves - Sentul - KL Sentral for eastern sector, Seremban - KL Sentral for southern sector and Pel. Klang - KL Sentral for western sector.

I would say the third option is more feasible one, as it will reduce the signalling problem and still able to increase the frequency.

I would say the third option is more feasible one, as it will reduce the signalling problem and still able to increase the frequency.

Good idea for temporary solution. But flying junctions still need to be installed in long term. Kuala Lumpur is Malaysian primary economic hub, urban center of Klang Valley metropolitan region with approximate 7 million inhabitants. Many buisiness commuters flow in to and out from KL everyday, this is a massive project, they need to think how to divert the traffic enter KL when the flying junctions under construction.

P.S. : Close the KTM topic, or move this topic to KTM thread, thanks.

Another option could be to change the lines to be a north-west and a south-east running. That would make it Pel. Klang - Rawang - Tanjong Malim and Seremban - Sentul - Batu Caves. That way the lines wouldn't cross each other and lead to signaling delays and such. Frequency could probably still be maintained then. A third option would be to split it into 4 lines. Tanjong Malim - Rawang - KL Sentral for northern sector, Batu Caves - Sentul - KL Sentral for eastern sector, Seremban - KL Sentral for southern sector and Pel. Klang - KL Sentral for western sector.given that KTM has introduced those branches as 4 separate lines in the new map, we may be seeing something like that happening.

I dont think it is too unreasonable either - so long as my transfer requires me to walk along or across a platform and nothing more.

Cheers, m

Two interesting articles that refer to the proposed extension of the Ampang LRT from Sentul Timur northwards.Villagers get their own way in LRT decision (http://streets.nst.com.my/Current_News/Streets/Friday/Stories/20100514004642/Article/index_html)

KUALA LUMPUR: Things are looking up for Kampung Padang Balang residents unhappy with several proposed developments in their neighbourhood.

Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin said the proposed extension of the light-rail transit (LRT), which route was originally planned to go through the village in Sentul will "most probably" be re-aligned.

"We are looking at other possible routes (for the LRT alignment). We have yet to determine the alternative routes and we will be discussing it with Syarikat Prasana Negara Bhd.

"We have also decided to maintain Kampung Padang Balang as a heritage village and there will be no mixed development there."

In an immediate response, Kampung Padang Balang representative Nazariah Abbas, who is the Malay Reserve Land Association president, said the draft plan must be amended following the decision.

"We had a discussion with mayor Datuk Seri Ahmad Fuad Ismail recently and insisted that we get a written document on the decision not to have mixed development as proposed in the draft plan. This is because, the assurance given by him was verbal," she said.

Land owners in Kampung Padang Balang in Sentul had complained that they were left out in the drafting of the Kuala Lumpur City Plan 2020.

They claimed that City Hall didn't inform them about the mixed development and LRT extension project proposals. -- By Nuradzimmah Daim

LRT route may skip Kampung Padang Balang, says Raja Nong Chik (http://www.mmail.com.my/content/36351-lrt-route-may-skip-kampung-padang-balang-says-raja-nong-chik)
BERNAMA
Thursday, May 13th, 2010 17:46:00
KUALA LUMPUR: The proposed Light Rail Transit (LRT) route through Kampung Padang Balang in Sentul may be moved elsewhere following protests from the residents there, Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister Raja Datuk Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin said Thursday.

He said the new route would be discussed with the developer of the project because the LRT has to go through places where there was traffic.Interesting story...it will be interesting to see the alternative proposal.

Cheers, m

BUT LRT to where?????Gombak Perhaps

I've propose it before. But in case of Ampang extension eastwards, that is a big project, since there no space available.

Sentul extension northwards to Sri Gombak via Sentul Utama and Greenwood Indah.

But I propose another line instead of Ampang Line extension.
My proposal on Outer Ring Line, one of the phase could be similiar with Ampang Line extension they wished. Interchange station in Dato' Senu, interchange with Putra Heights Line, from Dato' Senu, westwards, following MRR2 by serving these area:

Genting Klang, KTAR, Melawatis, National Zoo, Pinggiran Ukay, Ampang Point, Pandan Dalam, Pandan Indah, Cempaka, MPAJ, Lembah Maju, Taman Muda

BUT LRT to where?????Gombak Perhapsin between Batu Caves & Gombak.

See: http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/lrt-line.jpg

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/lrt-line.jpg

Cheers, m

Splendid, you can almost guesstimate the 'desktop alignment' for the KD-Cheras line. The absence of any reference to an orbital line along the MRR1 (at least Jalan Tun Razak) is a bit of a bummer though.

Splendid, you can almost guesstimate the 'desktop alignment' for the KD-Cheras line. The absence of any reference to an orbital line along the MRR1 (at least Jalan Tun Razak) is a bit of a bummer though.The problem is that Prasarana has a different 'desktop alignment" - they want to bring the Kota Damansara Cheras line through Bangsar and Brickfields before going underground.

But now you all know why I was pushing for the line to follow Jalan Parliamen, directly to KL.

Interesting to note that, according to the KL City planners, the Kota Damansara-Cheras line will intersect with a new line serving Kg. Baru all the way to Zoo Negara.

The interchange will be near Masjid Jamek (within walking distance) but not fully integrated - from the map it looks like it would be around Cap Square.

The other thing that I dont get is the monorail taking the job through Mont Kiara and Segambut - what a waste, honestly. Id rather send the line eastwards to integrate with the KTM - at Segambut and Sentul, if possible.

If there is a need for a line from Mont Kiara to Selayang, start it at Pusat Bandar Damansara and head up from there!

As for having an orbital line along the MRRI - the density of buildings isnt there but there are a lot of trip generators - so a bus rapid transit line would be a viable alternative.

Cheers, m

Ah, so is this KL city plan in sync with the Selangor one ? Pretty pointless if KL says north and Selangor says south. But I guess that KL (or maybe later SPAD?) would have a bigger say in this.

Ah, so is this KL city plan in sync with the Selangor one ? Pretty pointless if KL says north and Selangor says south. But I guess that KL (or maybe later SPAD?) would have a bigger say in this.The KL plan is not "fully" in sync with the Selangor plan, and neither one is in sync with the Prasarana plans.

Cheers, m

So what else is new ha???

The KL plan is not "fully" in sync with the Selangor plan, and neither one is in sync with the Prasarana plans.

Cheers, m

Err y those 3 abv nt work the plan together instead having its plan alone???:ohno:

Err y those 3 abv nt work the plan together instead having its plan alone???:ohno:because no one has forced them to do it and each one probably thinks that they have their own ideas and theirs are better than the other one's

Cheers, m

I didn't get the chance to go to the LRT extensions public display, I wonder if the SP side will have the emergency walkways like the ones on the KJ Line.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4663004728_0f706b3c55_b.jpg

Not sure that when they start

15 firms attend SPNB tender briefing for LRT jobBy Sharen KaurPublished: 2010/06/23

STATE-owned public transport operator Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) had called for a tender briefing yesterday for the light rail transit (LRT) line extension in the Klang Valley.

It is understood the briefing was attended by 15 construction companies to discuss the scope of works involved in the LRT extension project estimated at about RM9 billion.

SPNB invited the companies.

They include Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, IJM Construction Sdn Bhd, Muhibbah Engineering Sdn Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, Bina Puri Holdings Bhd, Loh & Loh Corp Bhd, MRCB Engineering Sdn Bhd as well as joint-ventures such as WCT-Sinohydro, Ranhill-CCCC and UEM Builders-Intria Bina.

It is understood that the companies are expected to visit the site this Sunday, where the lines between Ampang and Kelana Jaya are to be built.

"The companies must buy the tender documents for the project by June 24. SPNB may call for tenders for infrastructure works first," a source told Business Times.

It is learnt that there will be a total of eight packages under the project, which will be tendered in stages.

These include the construction and completion of facilities work for the Ampang LRT line, and the Kelana Jaya LRT line.

The other packages are to nominate sub-contractors for fabrication and delivery of segmental box girders for both the Ampang and Kelana Jaya LRT lines.

SPNB group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed had recently said that 15 candidates were shortlisted for the sub-contracting of fabrication and delivery of segmental box girder works.

SPNB is raising RM4 billion from bond sales to part-finance the project, which forms part of the RM10 billion railway scheme to expand Kuala Lumpur's public transport network.





http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/LRT22/Article/index_html

"The companies must buy the tender documents for the project by June 24. SPNB may call for tenders for infrastructure works first," a source told Business Times.


Sekarang baru nak beli tender document???

Means tender not submitted yet, SPNB havent evaluate and announcement of winner of the main tender is still long long way. Like dat I think the project will start full swing only probably end of this year or next year??

Sekarang baru nak beli tender document???

Means tender not submitted yet, SPNB havent evaluate and announcement of winner of the main tender is still long long way. Like dat I think the project will start full swing only probably end of this year or next year??


As I've expected.... wait.... i think they not settled with their global bond sale yet?? wahh... if not settled how to have money to start by year-end??? Probably delay to 2011 lah.....



Construction works for Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT extension lines to begin year-end
By Rachael Lee of theedgeproperty.com
Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:02

KUALA LUMPUR: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasana) hopes to start the first phase of construction for the Light Rail Transit (LRT) extension for both the Kelana Jaya and the Ampang lines by this year-end, Prasana managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said during a media briefing on Thursday, June 24.

The construction is expected to be completed in three years.

A pre-bid briefing with 17 pre-qualified contractors was held on June 22, and they are required to submit the tender six weeks after the site visit on June 27.

"We will then take about two-and-a-half to three months to evaluate the tender submissions and work will commence after that," Idrose said.

However, he did not reveal the expected value of the construction works.

Among the pre-qualified contractors are Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, UEM Builders Bhd and MRCB Bhd.

The Facilities Works comprises two main contracts - Package A and B -- which involve the construction of the infrastructure components such as the guideway, piers and stations, and the casting and delivery of segmental box girders for both lines.

Tenders for Package B and other nominated subcontract packages such as for the stations, escalators and lifts, supply of guideway parapets and multi-storey car parks for Park & Ride will be called at a later date.

Earlier this month, Prasarana obtained sectional approval for the Final Railway Scheme from the Department of Railways for the construction of the LRT extension, Idrose said.

The approval for the Kelana Jaya line covers a distance of 12km, from Kelana Jaya Station to Station 10 (USJ Subang), while the approval for the Ampang line covers a distance of 15.2km from Sri Petaling Station to Station 11 (Taman Puchong Prima).

The first phase of the construction works will initially cover a distance of 9.2km for the Kelana Jaya line from Kelana Jaya Station to Station 7 (USJ, Subang).

Works for the Ampang line will cover a distance of 7.4km, stretching from Sri Petaling Station to Station 5 (Kinrara 3) .

Idrose added that the construction process of the LRT extension is categorised as Advance Works, Facilities Works and System Works.

The Advance Works involves the relocation of telecommunication cables, TNB low-voltage (underground) cables, TNB high-voltage transmission lines, water mains and sewerage pipes, as well as gas pipeline works.

The letters of acceptance have been issued to four successful contractors for two lines, valued over RM90 million, for the low-voltage TNB cable and telecommunication relocation works package. The pre-bid briefing for another two packages - the relocation of gas pipelines, water and sewer services - was held on June 16.

The System Works category comprises two packages, the Engineering, namely the Procurement and Construction (EPC) system works and signalling work for the Kelana Jaya line; and the Rolling Stock and EPC system works for the Ampang line.

The tender for this category is expected to be launched in September.

Meanwhile, Idrose said the new Kota Damansara-Cheras light rail transit (LRT) line, which was announced last September, might be revised to include Sungai Buloh and Kajang.

He said Prasarana has finished the study and will propose the alignment to the Cabinet soon, but did not name any dates.

SPNB to call for LRT project tenders by June
By Sharen KaurPublished: 2010/06/25
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/LRT24/Article/#ixzz0m1XUfg2e

STATE-owned public transport operator Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) will call for tenders for Package A of the light rail transit (LRT) line extension in the Klang Valley by end of this month and award the contracts in November.

Package A includes contracts for main civil works for the Kelana Jaya line from the Kelana Jaya station to Summit USJ (9.2km) and for the Ampang line from the Sri Petaling station to Kinrara (7.4km).

It also includes sub-contracts for facility works for the supply of segmental box girders for both the lines, SPNB group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said.

Following that, SPNB will call for tenders for 24 sub-contract works to build stations and park & ride facilities for each line.

"We will award the contracts to the most competitive bidders. We have pre-qualified 15 contractors for the main line and 17 sub-contractors for the facilities work," he told a media briefing in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

"For the remaining sub-contract works, it will be opened to Class A contractors," Idrose added.

It is learnt that the contracts under Package A are worth some RM3 billion. Idrose declined to comment.

The whole LRT extension project is estimated to cost about RM9 billion.

Companies like Sunway Construction, IJM Construction, Muhibbah Engineering, MRCB Engineering, Gamuda, Ahmad Zaki, Loh & Loh Construction, MTDC-Persys, Mudajaya Corp Bhd, MMC-Zelan, WCT-Sinohydro, Ranhill-CCCC, UEM Builders-Intria Bina, Zabima-Leighton, Trans Resources Corp and Fajarbaru Builder-Signatium Construction are expected to bid for the main lines.

SPNB had earlier launched a RM4 billion bond programme to finance the initial stages of the project, of which RM2 billion has been drawn down, Idrose said.

It has so far awarded sub-contracts worth RM88 million to relocate telecommunications and TNB low voltage (underground) cables.

Idrose said it may launch a second bond programme for Package B, or look for other sources of funding.

Contracts for the system work under Package A will be called later when the whole alignment for the Ampang and Kelana Jaya LRT lines, which cover a total of 17.7km and 17km respectively, are approved, Idrose said.

SPNB now has sectional approval of the final railway scheme from the Department of Railways, covering a distance of 12km from the Kelana Jaya station to USJ Subang, while the approval for the Ampang line covers a distance of 15.2km from the Sri Petaling station to Taman Puchong Prima.

On talks that the LRT lines may be extended to Kota Damansara, Sungai Buloh and Cheras, Idrose said SPNB has a plan for it and will be ready when there is approval from the government.

From Sinchew

http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/105127?tid=6

Kelana Jaya line extension, you can see the initial phase
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8335/llc10062402.jpg

Ampang line extension (initial phase : Sri Petaling to Kinrara)
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/983/llc10062403.jpg

KL LRT extension works to start in Nov
By SHARIDAN M. ALI Friday June 25, 2010
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/6/25/business/6541473&sec=business

KUALA LUMPUR: The first phase of the main construction works for the estimated RM7bil light rail transit (LRT) extension is expected to start in November and completed in three years.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said the first phase or package A of both Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines would see 9.2km and 7.39km of construction length respectively.

The total extension length of the Kelana Jaya line is 17km and Ampang line 17.7km. Both extensions will see an additional 13 stations each.

The main construction or facilities work involves infrastructure components such as the guideway, piers and stations as well as the casting and delivery of segmental box girdex for both lines.

A total of 17 pre-qualified main contractors and 15 pre-qualified nominated sub-contractors have also been shortlisted for fabrication and delivery of segmental box girders.

The lists of the pre-qualified contractors are posted on the Syarikat Prasarana website.

Syarikat Prasarana is a state-owned public transport operator that controls about half of the segment in the Klang Valley.

“We held a pre-bid briefing with the pre-qualified contractors for package A on June 22 and they are supposed to submit their tenders in August.

“We will then need two to three months to evaluate them and hopefully start the main ground works in November,” he told reporters after its briefing on the LRT extension updates.

However, Syarikat Prasarana is not ready to reveal the estimated cost of the package A extension until all pre-qualified contractors have submitted their tenders.

In the meantime, Idrose said they would carry on the advance works involving the relocation of telecommunication cables, the Tenaga Nasional Bhd low voltage underground cables and high voltage transmission cables, water mains, sewerage pipes and gas pipeline works.

“We should start the advanced works next month and, by November, we should complete 50%. We have already awarded the contracts for the advanced works with a total value of approximately RM90.6mil,” he said.

All these developments are possible due to the sectional approval of the final railway scheme by the Department of Railways for the LRT extensions.

Cost of rail projects may top RM50bil
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/6/18/business/6484000&sec=business

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2010/6/18/business/p1-railcht.JPG

From Sinchew

http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/105127?tid=6

Kelana Jaya line extension, you can see the initial phase
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8335/llc10062402.jpg

Ampang line extension (initial phase : Sri Petaling to Kinrara)
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/983/llc10062403.jpg

Prasarana given approval to build LRT lines
By LIM CHIA YING Friday June 25, 2010

Work on the LRT extension from the Kelana Jaya line to USJ 20 in Subang Jaya and the Ampang line from Sri Petaling to Taman Puchong Prima will start soon.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana) has been given the approval for both lines from the Department of Railways.

There will be 13 stations for each of the two lines.

Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said they had their public hearing for three months beginning Sept 15 last year.

“The proposed lines were displayed at various locations of the local authorities,” Idrose told reporters at his office in Bangsar yesterday.

“We received a lot of feedback from the public and stakeholders while meetings were also held with residents on their objections raised.

“Both the federal and state governments ordered us to study the objections raised and how we can overcome the issues. We gave solutions and approval was granted,” he said.

On the remaining “unapproved” sections, Idrose said discussions were being held with the state and federal governments and hoped to obtain approval soon after all issues and residents’ concerns were sorted out.

For the Kelana Jaya line, the first phase of construction work covering 9.2km will be from the Kelana Jaya station to USJ near the Kesas highway.

For the Ampang line, the first phase is from the Sri Petaling station to Kinrara 3 covering 7.4km.

Work to relocate telecommunication cables, TNB underground cables and high voltage transmission lines, water mains, sewerage and gas pipes is expected to start in mid-July.

Idrose said work on both the lines would start simultaneously and was expected to be completed in three years.

He said the exact time frame would be clearer once approval for the remaining sections was obtained and tender called in September.

He added that there would be 800 to 1,500 parking bays depending on the location of the stations and the ridership.

Some stations are being integrated and some with just drop-off bays without the park-and-ride facility.

Adequate info given on LRT extension
By JADE CHAN Monday July 12, 2010
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2010/7/12/central/6638993&sec=central

ALL the relevant information on the proposed Kelana Jaya LRT line extension into Subang Jaya was available during the three-month public display last year, said a Prasarana (Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd) spokesman.

“In addition to a map of the train route and station locations, the railway schemes clearly showed each station’s design, lay-by and other details,” he said.

“We had Prasarana employees on hand at the display venues to explain the details.

“All the stations have lay-bys and drop-off zones, which have been designed to not ‘eat into’ the existing roads.”

The representative was speaking in response to a StarMetro article published on July 3 headlined Subang folk want more info on LRT extension.

He said numerous meetings and public dialogues had been held with residents associations, NGOs, disabled groups, as well as state and local government authorities on the proposed LRT extension.

“While some information could not be given out earlier due to land and property speculation, all our procedures and technical requirements have been done according to the law,” said the representative.

On the of lack of park-and-ride facilities, he said it was due to land acquisition problems.

“Stations 5 to 9 (SS15 Subang Jaya to USJ14) are located at heavily built-up zones with not much space to build park-and-ride facilities.

“But there will be 1,400 parking bays at Station 4 (Subang Jaya KTM), 1,500 bays at Station 7 (USJ7), and 700 bays at Station 10 (USJ21), with Station 4 being integrated with Subang Jaya KTM Komuter Station.

“There can never be enough park-and-ride facilities, which is why we need an efficient and effective feeder bus system,” said the representative.

“We are working with the local authorities, residents associations, business communities and RapidKL to work out the feeder bus routes based on high density areas, demand pattern and efficient turning points.

“We are looking at, say, a feeder bus service every 15 minutes so people don’t have to drive to the stations. To address illegal parking, there is a need for stricter enforcement and proper civic awareness”

On the close proximity of several stations, the Prasarana representative said that a distance of 500-600m to 1.4-1.5km between two stations is an acceptable stretch.

“If there is a large distance between the stations, then there will be a lot of ground-level congestion at an individual station when people congregate at one station to board the train.

“The LRT line is coming in after the townships are already built up. So a detailed study based on the optimisation factor was carried out to ensure minimum social impact and technical requirements were adhered to, while also considering the population density and land availability.

On ridership figures, the spokesman said they were based on the projected figures by the Census Board.

“It is estimated that the population would number close to 160,000 people by 2015 at the areas around Stations 5 to 10 (SS15 Subang Jaya to USJ21), and close to 200,000 people by 2020,” he said.

The spokesman stressed that in addition to being a solution to traffic congestion, the survival of a high-density area depends on public transport.

Asked about the land acquisition issue at Saujana Residency, he said the matter would be sorted out with the Department of Railways, Prasarana and the local authorities.

On the next step, the spokesman said Prasarana is presently working with the local authorities and state government to review the final portion of the LRT alignment and sort out land constraints issues.

The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT extension line will commence from Lembah Subang – Kelana Business Centre, through Subang, USJ, Alam Megah and ending at the hub in Putra Heights.

The proposed line will consists of 13 new stations and 17km of guideway.

The Ampang LRT extension line will commence from the present Sri Petaling station, passing through Puchong, Kinrara and ending at the hub in Putra Heights.

The proposed line will consist of 13 new stations and 17.7km of guideway. All stations will have facilities such as lifts, escalators, public telephones, surau and toilets.

The stations will also be equipped with facilities for the physically disabled such as ramps, lifts, tac-tiles, ticket counters and toilets.

Both the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines are expected to be commissioned by end of 2012.

While the deadline for the public feedback has ended, information on the proposed LRT extension is available at www.lrtextension.com.

Please start awarding construction packages to the short-listed companies, ITS UTTERLY SLOW ! The slower it gets , the slower other states will have public transport improvements.

Friday July 16, 2010

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2010/7/16/central/6673502&sec=central

Alternative site for LRT proposed


RESIDENTS of Saujana Residency in Subang Jaya submitted an alternative site for LRT station 4 on the proposed Kelana Jaya extension line to the Mentri Besar’s office yesterday.

They have suggested that the line run between Carrefour and Subang Parade as well as locate station 4 over the Federal Highway similar to the Bangsar station.

Subang Jaya assemblyman Hannah Yeoh said the residents had also submitted their proposal to Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana) for a review of the LRT route on July 12.

The new route is planned to be sandwiched between Saujana Residency Condominium and Empire Shopping Gallery.

The residents are concerned over safety issues as well as the noise from the train.


She said during the last Selangor State Economic Council (MTES) the Mentri Besar had asked the residents to study the plan to come up with a possible solution.

“We have had several meetings and the new alternative site for the station will see the line near a commercial area instead of residential,” she added.

Yeoh said Prasarana had replied they would study all possible solutions but were unable to commit on the alternative route proposed by the residents.

The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT extension line will start from the Lembah Subang–Kelana Business Centre, through Subang Jaya, USJ, Alam Megah and ending at the hub in Putra Heights.

The proposed line will consist of 13 stations and 17km of guideway.

Both the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines are expected to be commissioned by end of 2012.

While the deadline for the public feedback has ended, information on the proposed LRT extension is available at www.lrtextension.com

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2010/7/16/central/6673502&sec=central

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2010/7/16/central/m_03lrtRoute.jpg

Residents want to meet Prasarana on LRT project
By Nuradzimmah Daim 2010/07/15
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/2pghv/Article/#ixzz0tpv4PSso

SHAH ALAM: Residents of Saujana Residency want to meet Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd to discuss the proposed realignment route for the light-rail transit (LRT) extension project.

LRT taskforce protem committee chairman V.K. Lai said Prasarana had responded on July 13 by saying it would look into the LRT realignment route proposed by the committee.

"We want to have a meeting specifically to discuss the alternative LRT route which we had sent last month before Prasarana makes further decisions," said Lai.

"I will follow up with Prasarana on Monday about our request to have a meeting to discuss our proposed route for the realignment," he said at a press conference organised by Subang Jaya assemblyman Hannah Yeoh at the state government's office yesterday.

The residents had proposed that the route be realigned to be near the Subang Parade KTM station instead. Prasarana's initial proposal was to have the LRT line (station 4) crossing their land between the newly-constructed Service Residence and Empire Shopping Gallery.

Representatives of the housing scheme had attended three meetings with Prasarana to voice their concerns over the project, which is only about four metres away from their houses.

They fear its construction as well as its operations would cause excess vibration and noise.

More than 90 houseowners and residents signed a petition objecting to the proposed LRT line and asking Prasarana to review it in May.

Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed was reported as saying that the LRT extension project for both the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines had received sectional approval from the authorities.


He had said the approval for the Kelana Jaya line covers a distance of 12km, from Kelana Jaya station to USJ Subang, including station 4, while for the Ampang line, the approval covers a distance of 15.2km, from the Seri Petaling station to Taman Puchong Prima station.

He said Prasarana had to start the project, called Package A, while still looking at mitigating plans after receiving feedback from the public on the project.

The RM7 billion project covering a 17km line for each of the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines, include 13 additional stations and an interchange station at Putra Heights.

I agree that the line shud not crossed over people's homes.

Build the station at KTM and integrate with it, not not the location next to Empire or next to Subang Parade (where the govt recently bought a small parcel of land there for the proposed LRT facility).

You can see in Malaysia, certain things somehow never get the practical sense. I never tot it wasn't really integrated with KTM as convenient like in SIngapore. Our planners prefer to let you walk and then lose directions along the way.

Residents against proposed LRT alignment

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2010/7/19/central/6690303&sec=central

I agree that the line shud not crossed over people's homes.

Build the station at KTM and integrate with it, not not the location next to Empire or next to Subang Parade (where the govt recently bought a small parcel of land there for the proposed LRT facility).

You can see in Malaysia, certain things somehow never get the practical sense. I never tot it wasn't really integrated with KTM as convenient like in SIngapore. Our planners prefer to let you walk and then lose directions along the way.

Right, just like KL Monorail at KL Sentral. Have to sweat it out before you get to the next line. Can't the authority learn from that mistake? So much money has already been spent on the study and one of the most important items (seamless transfer between lines) is still not met.

how many 4 carriages trains in KJL now?

Build the station at KTM and integrate with it, not not the location next to Empire or next to Subang Parade (where the govt recently bought a small parcel of land there for the proposed LRT facility).
I thought I saw an image where they showed the three levels of the Subang Jaya revamped station.

Level 1 - KTM platforms
Level 2 - KTM and LRT concourses. Exits segregated for two systems.
Level 3 - LRT platforms

All were above each other and in one building.

^^
is it the top right pic?

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/09/15/10/02/5093087_843x577.JPG

^^ No. That's not the one, but the layout would be similar to that. Just replace the road with the KTM platforms to get an idea of what it would be like.

Edit: This is the one.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/NKRA%20fair%202009/DSC_7032.jpg

^^

Oh, i took this photo during the NKRA (National Key Result Area) open day in Sunway Hotel.

no more any latest news abt the ampang line?
when just can start to build the station?

They should extend the line to Shah Alam and Klang or create another line to get there. It is a pity and waste that only Komuter reaches there. Even the three previous proposal does not reaches there. Isn't Shah Alam a developed city?

They should extend the line to Shah Alam and Klang or create another line to get there. It is a pity and waste that only Komuter reaches there. Even the three previous proposal does not reaches there. Isn't Shah Alam a developed city?

That will nvr happen... perhaps in 2030??? :banana: still got chance...

Its silly that gov ignored the public transportation for Klang and Shah Alam... komuter is a joke... ppl without car hardly can reach the komuter station :ohno:


but residents in Klang and Shah Alam is ady use to it... So we just continue to use private car as main transport... :banana:
As in 2020, the population of both cities will be larger den 2mil...???

Very true, but they must do something buses isn't that good over htere and Komuter isn't really helping. Why Singapore can connect to places that is not accessible by MRT. Over there they created LRT (The same type of LRT like the KJL and the SPL Line) to cope with residents who wanted to go to the city centre. This practice must be done here.

Extend the line to Klang is crazy. But have an seperate metro system for Shah Alam that connected to stations of KL-PJ metro system, and seperate metro system for Klang that connected to stations of Putrajaya and Shah Alam metro system may sounds a good plan. There are no way a MRT line exceed 50km, it needs more than an hour to complete the journey... I think two MRT line with both 50km is better than 100km MRT line.

So the Shah Alam MRT system should connected to KL-PJ MRT system in Putra Heights and Kelana Jaya. Klang connect with Shah Alam MRT system in Jusco Bandar Baru Klang and Kota Kemuning.

This also gives me an idea of commuter service of KTMB of Batu Caves-Port Klang Line should split into two, One serves all stations in Subang Jaya to Batu Caves, another serves only stations from Batu Caves to KL Sentral, Pantai Dalam, Jalan Templer, Setia Jaya, stations after Subang Jaya. This cut the time of travel needed from KL to Klang, and there are few demands on travelling from Padang Jawa to Kg Dato Harun, most will go Shah Alam, Subang Jaya or KL. But I think sooner or later, most minor halts of KTM Komuter of BKL role will be replaced by much more efficient MRTs, the only station they will left on KL-Port Klang sector is: Jalan Templer, Setia Jaya, Subang Jaya, Shah Alam (Sentral?), Klang, Port Klang.

Well, I agree to your plan, create 2 more MRT line, but by then we will get a whooping roughly 300km of metro lines or estimated 225 stations. Hopefully, it will happen.:banana:

no more any latest news abt the ampang line?
when just can start to build the station?

They will start by end of the year or early 2011. Soil testing is now taking place.

From the newspaper, there will be 3 new MRT lines constructed:
1.Green Line
-From Sg.Buloh,pass through Kepong, KL, until Kajang.
2.Red line
-From Sg.Buloh, pass through Kota Damansara, KL, Cheras and till Kajang.(part of it may be the Kota Damansara - Cheras line)
3.Black line( Circle line)
-Will be connecting all the lines around KL and act as an interchange line.
Who got the pics?

From the newspaper, there will be 3 new MRT lines constructed:
1.Green Line
-From Sg.Buloh,pass through Kepong, KL, until Kajang.
2.Red line
-From Sg.Buloh, pass through Kota Damansara, KL, Cheras and till Kajang.(part of it may be the Kota Damansara - Cheras line)
3.Black line( Circle line)
-Will be connecting all the lines around KL and act as an interchange line.
Who got the pics?


you can refer here >>> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1150629

i hope we could contain all MRT-related discussion in that thread. This thread is solely for the Extension of KJ and Ampang line :)

Mudajaya to bid for LRT extension packages
Published: 2010/09/04

MUDAJAYA Group Bhd (5085) will put in a bid this Monday for the light-rail transit (LRT) extension packages tendered by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd.

"We are bidding for both the Ampang line and the Kelana Jaya line," executive director Anto Joseph told Business Times, adding that the bids for these would close on Monday.

The company has been pre-qualified to bid for all the packages as a main contractor.

Syarikat Prasarana had said in late June that it hoped to start the first phase of construction for the LRT extension works at both the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines by year-end.

The RM7 billion LRT extension project, covering a 17km line for each of the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines, includes 13 additional stations and an interchange station at Putra Heights.

Well, I agree to your plan, create 2 more MRT line, but by then we will get a whooping roughly 300km of metro lines or estimated 225 stations. Hopefully, it will happen.:banana:

It will never happen for now, but in 20 years time I believe it will... :banana:
We just dun have much budget for a 300km metro and 300 km is so long and huge project to come out within a short period of time??? No way :ohno:

It will never happen for now, but in 20 years time I believe it will... :banana:
We just dun have much budget for a 300km metro and 300 km is so long and huge project to come out within a short period of time??? No way :ohno:

Well, maybe at this time impossible but if the MRT is completed just imagine, currently is 56km then extends to 180 km. That's 60% of the overall total lines. But have a branch LRT to Shah Alam.

Extend the line to Klang is crazy. But have an seperate metro system for Shah Alam that connected to stations of KL-PJ metro system, and seperate metro system for Klang that connected to stations of Putrajaya and Shah Alam metro system may sounds a good plan. There are no way a MRT line exceed 50km, it needs more than an hour to complete the journey... I think two MRT line with both 50km is better than 100km MRT line.

So the Shah Alam MRT system should connected to KL-PJ MRT system in Putra Heights and Kelana Jaya. Klang connect with Shah Alam MRT system in Jusco Bandar Baru Klang and Kota Kemuning.

This also gives me an idea of commuter service of KTMB of Batu Caves-Port Klang Line should split into two, One serves all stations in Subang Jaya to Batu Caves, another serves only stations from Batu Caves to KL Sentral, Pantai Dalam, Jalan Templer, Setia Jaya, stations after Subang Jaya. This cut the time of travel needed from KL to Klang, and there are few demands on travelling from Padang Jawa to Kg Dato Harun, most will go Shah Alam, Subang Jaya or KL. But I think sooner or later, most minor halts of KTM Komuter of BKL role will be replaced by much more efficient MRTs, the only station they will left on KL-Port Klang sector is: Jalan Templer, Setia Jaya, Subang Jaya, Shah Alam (Sentral?), Klang, Port Klang.

A dedicated MRT line from Klang - SA - SJ - PJ - KL sentral???

A dedicated MRT line from Klang - SA - SJ - PJ - KL sentral???

Isn't that the same as KTM komuter route?

Isn't that the same as KTM komuter route?

Yes, but the station location will be totally different from KTM...

Yes, but the station location will be totally different from KTM...

We can't have station at every single location. Even japan doesn't have that.

We can't have station at every single location. Even japan doesn't have that.

Not every single location i mean :cheers:

For example, currently KTM serving the north part of Klang and Shah Alam , We could have a MRT line serving the south part... Well thats only my idea :cheers:

Talking bout KTM... do you really use the system b4???

As a matter of fact, I did.

That corridor certainly doesn't have enough population density to justify an investment close to US2billion for another rail line. That money (if there is any) could have been put to a better use to upgrade the existing line with a lot more to spare. 3-4 BRT lines can be put in service with the remaining money.

Because of KTM Komuter station are far away from areas with high population density, so if there are MRT stations which are closer to areas with high population density, it will be replaced, for example: if there are a station in the heart of Taman Sri Sentosa and Petaling Utama, Petaling station role will be replaced by them and end up for the halt closure, due to very low usage. Another example: If the monorail extends from KL Sentral to Bandar Sunway via Mid Valley, Pantai Dalam, Taman Sri Sentosa, Kg. Medan: These KTMB stations may have to close: Angkasapuri, Pantai Dalam, Petaling, Setia Jaya, and maybe more... That's why I think, if there is a seperate metro system for PJ intergrated with KL metro system, many of the KTMB halts' role will be replaced by those metro systems. Then the BKL will only serve as middle-haul commuter service that serves only major stations of major settlements. while in local level, it will be replaced by MRT or bus.

And because of BKL is not a railroad dedicated for passenger service, trains serves along the line is not frequent, and sometimes very time wasting if too much unecessary stops. KTMB EMU acceleration speed are much more slower than RapidKL EMUs, and the travel may delayed due to switching the railway switch and wait for freight trains/express trains to pass. So, I think KTMB should concentrate on commuting people from between suburbs or suburb into KL, not commuting people in local level within a suburb.

Great, this proposal should be a great idea in the near term but for now let's see the progress

KL-Klang corridor do not need MRT, because the travel time will take too long, because of the distance and being rapid transit line, station distance with another station is close, meaning, the train will constantly stops at each station, adding more time to travel between KL and Klang.

I suggest the existing line (KL-Port Klang) to be upgraded, say to four tracks to permit more frequent and more efficient service. This is in line with commuter rail lines run by JR West (as an example).

In addition to that, i think the time has come for Klang (which is a sizable city in Klang Valley zone) to have its own mass transit (either monorail or BRT).

KL-Klang corridor do not need MRT, because the travel time will take too long, because of the distance and being rapid transit line, station distance with another station is close, meaning, the train will constantly stops at each station, adding more time to travel between KL and Klang.

I suggest the existing line (KL-Port Klang) to be upgraded, say to four tracks to permit more frequent and more efficient service. This is in line with commuter rail lines run by JR West (as an example).

In addition to that, i think the time has come for Klang (which is a sizable city in Klang Valley zone) to have its own mass transit (either monorail or BRT).Something like this for Greater Klang? http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/klang-rapid-transit-routes-summary.pdf

Something like this for Shah Alam? http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/simplified-bus-routes-for-shah-alam.pdf

Cheers, m

KL-Klang corridor do not need MRT, because the travel time will take too long, because of the distance and being rapid transit line, station distance with another station is close, meaning, the train will constantly stops at each station, adding more time to travel between KL and Klang.

I suggest the existing line (KL-Port Klang) to be upgraded, say to four tracks to permit more frequent and more efficient service. This is in line with commuter rail lines run by JR West (as an example).

In addition to that, i think the time has come for Klang (which is a sizable city in Klang Valley zone) to have its own mass transit (either monorail or BRT).Something like this (http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=transitmy.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftransitmy.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fgreater-ipohs-potential-mass-transit-map.pdf&sref=http%3A%2F%2Ftransitmy.org%2Fideas%2F)for Ipoh?

Cheers, m

They will start by end of the year or early 2011. Soil testing is now taking place.

Thanks for your replied. Is it the image below is the ampang line 1st station to connect the Sri Petaling station? The location confirmed already?
Because until now the area still is a "forest" without any construction like remove the tree to make the place empty..

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w137/vince8307/map/stn1.jpg


Why all image of station plan just for Kelana Jaya line only? The station plan for Ampang line? 0.0
http://transitmy.org/2009/09/15/lrt-public-display/

Why all image of station plan just for Kelana Jaya line only? The station plan for Ampang line? 0.0
http://transitmy.org/2009/09/15/lrt-public-display/our pictures of the locations of the Ampang LRT stations did not come out, and they did not provide the site plans for the Ampang Line stations at the Subang Jaya public display.

And our request to Prasarana for the site plans has fallen on deaf ears.

Cheers, m

Thanks for your replied. Is it the image below is the ampang line 1st station to connect the Sri Petaling station? The location confirmed already?
Because until now the area still is a "forest" without any construction like remove the tree to make the place empty..

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w137/vince8307/map/stn1.jpg


Why all image of station plan just for Kelana Jaya line only? The station plan for Ampang line? 0.0
http://transitmy.org/2009/09/15/lrt-public-display/


Not sure... but if build there, I can see it will be very troublesome to get there... :nuts:

Something like this for Greater Klang? http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/klang-rapid-transit-routes-summary.pdf

Something like this for Shah Alam? http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/simplified-bus-routes-for-shah-alam.pdf

Cheers, m

Yes, similar to that.

our pictures of the locations of the Ampang LRT stations did not come out, and they did not provide the site plans for the Ampang Line stations at the Subang Jaya public display.

And our request to Prasarana for the site plans has fallen on deaf ears.

Cheers, m

oh....bad news for Ampang line user...:nuts:



Not sure... but if build there, I can see it will be very troublesome to get there... :nuts:

I really hope will build at there...because the public transport there damn poor...no buses direct to KL city :(

oh....bad news for Ampang line user...:nuts:





I really hope will build at there...because the public transport there damn poor...no buses direct to KL city :(

Nono... u get me wrong... I mean if the station build at that place (The station 1 in the picture), ppl will have trouble to get to that station... Perhaps only resident who stay near Jalil Sutera with bridges connected to the station will take the LRT and not the resident of Green avenue, vista komanwel and Tmn Esplanade...

Nono... u get me wrong... I mean if the station build at that place (The station 1 in the picture), ppl will have trouble to get to that station... Perhaps only resident who stay near Jalil Sutera with bridges connected to the station will take the LRT and not the resident of Green avenue, vista komanwel and Tmn Esplanade...

ya~if build at there is definitely no advantage for the the residents of Tmn Esplanade & Green Avenue. Vista Komanwel condo is just opposite the road of Sri Petaling Station, so no worry for the resident at there. Who's living at Tmn Esplanade all of them is rich guys (Once of them is the wife of HK star Andy Lau ) Since they are so rich and no point to use the public transport, right? :banana:

Heard another new condo will build at next to Bukit OUG Condo and will be a Supermarket beside the future LRT Station. get the news from others forum~
but not sure...hope can get confirmed & latest news at here:)

ya~if build at there is definitely no advantage for the the residents of Tmn Esplanade & Green Avenue. Vista Komanwel condo is just opposite the road of Sri Petaling Station, so no worry for the resident at there. Who's living at Tmn Esplanade all of them is rich guys (Once of them is the wife of HK star Andy Lau ) Since they are so rich and no point to use the public transport, right? :banana:

Heard another new condo will build at next to Bukit OUG Condo and will be a Supermarket beside the future LRT Station. get the news from others forum~
but not sure...hope can get confirmed & latest news at here:)

Lolz... Rich ppl oso can take public transport :cheers:

Lolz... Rich ppl oso can take public transport :cheers:

They don't want the LRT pass by their houses actually....keep complaint = =

They don't want the LRT pass by their houses actually....keep complaint = =

I think if it was bangsar mont kiara den no nid build public transport lar...
if they (tmn esplanade) complaint then ask dem to move to bangsar or mont kiara lor...:lol:
Haha I was just joking dun take it too serious... :cheers:

I think if it was bangsar mont kiara den no nid build public transport lar...
if they (tmn esplanade) complaint then ask dem to move to bangsar or mont kiara lor...:lol:
Haha I was just joking dun take it too serious... :cheers:

haha~good idea:lol:

Lolz... Rich ppl oso can take public transport :cheers:I heard from one minibus driver that some passengers have tried to pay for their RM1 fare with a RM100 note :banana: :lol:

Cheers, m

Kimlun to benefit from LRT project: MIMB
Published: 2010/09/14
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20100914132053/Article/index_html

Kimlun Corp Bhd, a one-stop engineering and construction services provider, is expected to benefit from the soon-to-be-announced light rail transit (LRT) extension project.

In a research note today, MIMB Investment Bank said Kimlun has the experience and technical expertise acquired from its long involvement in a Singapore mass rapid transit extension project.

It said the industrialised building system (IBS) has received strong support from the government with a stipulation that all new government projects should have at least 70 per cent IBS contents.

"The Johor Baru-based Kimlun is a full fledged IBS builder and 25 per cent of its revenue are derived from the IBS segment. This will give it a big advantage when tendering for government contracts," it said.

MIMB said the new ruling to reduce the dependence on foreign workers in the construction sector to just 15 per cent by 2010, would further strengthen the need for IBS.

"Kimlun will be able to adapt to the new ruling quickly with its heavily mechanised IBS, which requires minimal labour work," it said.

For the second quarter of this year, Kimlun registered a net profit of RM8.42 million on revenue of RM139.4 million. -- Bernama

RELATED LINK: http://www.kimlun.com/

I heard from one minibus driver that some passengers have tried to pay for their RM1 fare with a RM100 note :banana: :lol:

Cheers, m

Well, that doesn't mean they are instantly rich, unless they have no change or they are generous, but it's likely they have no small change because it's rare for bus drivers to do good deeds.

Idrose not renewing Prasarana contract
By Kang Siew Li Published: 2010/09/25
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/deros/Article/index_html

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/deros/pix_bottom

Group MD Datuk Idrose Mohamed had conveyed to the board of directors his wish of not continuing his two-year contract and it is understood that the board has accepted his decision

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd group managing director (MD) Datuk Idrose Mohamed will not be renewing his contract when it expires on September 30.

"Idrose had conveyed to the board of directors his wish of not continuing the two-year contract at a meeting earlier this month," a source close to the matter told Business Times yesterday.

It is understood that the board has accepted Idrose's decision.

Idrose has been on paid administrative leave since September 8 pending expiry of his contract.

"During this period, Prasarana chairman Tan Sri Izuddin Dali will help run the day-to-day affairs of the group until a new MD arrives," said the source.

Idrose could not be reached for comment, while Prasarana group communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah declined to comment.

Already, three names are being tipped to take over the helm of the public transport group: former UEM Builders Bhd MD Ridza Abdoh Salleh, 54; former PECD Bhd group chief executive officer (CEO) Rosman Abdullah, 43; and Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) chief operating officer (COO) Shahril Mokhtar, 38.

Ridza has also served as the COO for rail at Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL). Prior to that, he was the CEO of Prasarana and, earlier, MD of Projek Usahasama Transit Ringan Automatik Sdn Bhd.

Rosman was with PECD from 2003 to 2009. He was the executive director of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd from 1997 to 2003.

Shahril was previously RapidKL's corporate planning and strategy general manager before being seconded as adviser to the Economic Planning Unit of the Prime Minister's Department in setting up SPAD.

Idrose, 54, took the helm of the loss-making public transport operator on October 1 2008, succeeding Shaipudin Shah Harun who had resigned.

Prasarana is the asset owner of the two light rail transit (LRT) systems and bus services in the Klang Valley, while subsidiary RapidKL operates them.

Prasarana's subsidiaries include KL StarRail Sdn Bhd, which manages the KL Monorail system, and Rapid Penang Sdn Bhd, operator of Penang's bus service.

Idrose, a civil engineer, served in the Public Works Department and the Malaysian Highway Authority before joining UEM Group Bhd as head of engineering and operations in 1994.

He was PLUS Bhd's MD in July 1999 before being appointed group MD and chief executive officer of Pos Malaysia Bhd in April 2007.

Still no news on this one lately all i hear is MRT!!!

Well, that doesn't mean they are instantly rich, unless they have no change or they are generous, but it's likely they have no small change because it's rare for bus drivers to do good deeds.

Yea, its not bcos they are rich...
Remember rich ppl dun usually bring money out 1...lolz
They bring credit cards :nuts:
Why not paying fare with credit cards :lol:


We need TnG, even though TnG is like :ohno: or mayb a better metro card???
I wonder how TnG are going to attract ppl to use their card, the service is like so bad, no discount, + additional charges :bash:
Teras Teknologi is the only company who handle this kind of services, but that does not mean no competition from others = no nid to upgrade the services... This is wrong... :bash:

I seriously think that they need a better marketing team (sack the old ones)... :cheers:

Read more:
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/srana-2/Article/#ixzz11BzQD300

Awesome the next thing we hear is residents from Putra Heights Section 2/3, Subang Alam and the Saujana Residency condominiums at SS16 will SUE Prasarana if it goes ahead with the LRT extension.

I suggest Prasarana should make advertorials on newspaper and some advertisements on TV to allay concerns.

Just extend it to Subang and be done with it. Don't go any further than the KTM station. Just use that as an example of NIMBY-ing. Sure, there'll be complaints again over the usefulness of that. But once they realise, they might start to get to comfortable negotiations. Also, any reason why the Sri Petaling - Puchong extension can't go ahead first?

Extending it to KTM station will guarantee one of the major convenience of taking rail in KL, which is by having an interchange between Subang Jaya KTM station and LRT.

I am not sure if the opposition in Taman Esplanade has been subsided or not, but it is very crucial to at least extend the Sri Petaling line to Puchong in the first phase.

I suggest Prasarana to search for better noise level barrier, detailing construction process to let the people be aware of the construction process and maybe, offering some concessions such as reduced LRT fare for affected residents.

NIMBY-ism cannot be continued for long, but at the same time, Prasarana should improve their public relations, as i mentioned before, stepping up advertorials on newspaper.

I suggest Prasarana to search for better noise level barrier, detailing construction process to let the people be aware of the construction process and maybe, offering some concessions such as reduced LRT fare for affected residents.

NIMBY-ism cannot be continued for long, but at the same time, Prasarana should improve their public relations, as i mentioned before, stepping up advertorials on newspaper.I believe that Prasarana is going to build that segment of the LRT in a tunnel so that the noise will not affect the residents. Then there will be the issues of vibrations and the whole issue of construction to deal with. I do believe that Prasarana could be more responsible and think of solutions instead of viewing the residents as an inconvenience.Just extend it to Subang and be done with it. Don't go any further than the KTM station. Just use that as an example of NIMBY-ing. Sure, there'll be complaints again over the usefulness of that. But once they realise, they might start to get to comfortable negotiations. Also, any reason why the Sri Petaling - Puchong extension can't go ahead first?as much as I like having better public transport, the right to enjoy one's own property is a more fundamental right than the right to mobility.

Blaming it on 'NIMBY-ing' excuses Prasarana and the local governments from their planning responsibilities - it should have been clear to them in 2006 that potential LRT routes needed to be protected from construction, and they should have taken action to make sure that this happened.

Prasarana should extend the LRT to the Subang Jaya KTM station to improve the quality of the network (with the interchange). They can also improve feeder bus services in USJ and to KTM Komuter stations, maybe even pay for the operation of special Komuter shuttle trains between Klang and Setia Jaya (which has the additional platform) - this would allow KTM Komuter passengers to transfer to the LRT.

All of this would mean that the LRT trains would be full from day one. Prasarana would not lose a huge amount of money and Sime Darby would benefit from the take-up of their Subang Jaya City Centre project.

The downside would be massive congestion around the KTM station which is not well placed...but the MPSJ expected a huge amount of congestion there already thanks to the new developments.

Cheers, m

There should be more communications between residents and Prasarana to solve this issue.

To begin with, i suggest they setup Youtube page, loaded with videos about projects and constructions. This will aid communication between both sides. It will help the understand between both sides in that same issue.

Communication is important. Look at MTR in Hong Kong. They have one section on their website with videos of their proposed projects and some of those videos does have information on how the line is being constructed.

You talked about the tunnel...does it mean having a noise level barrier, covering the whole trackage? That might be a sensible option too.

I remembered there is a clause in our legal system said that once you owned a parcel of land, and all the land beneath your house to the earth core is owned by you. Hence tunnelling underneath someone property is a headache as you are acquiring someone property.

Hence it is interesting to see how tunneling will go through all the residential area as the alignment should go along the road network, which all government owned land.

If the LRT line go underground, there will be an interesting engineering project as the ground soil in klang valley generally porous and soft.

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

There should be more communications between residents and Prasarana to solve this issue.

To begin with, i suggest they setup Youtube page, loaded with videos about projects and constructions. This will aid communication between both sides. It will help the understand between both sides in that same issue.

Communication is important. Look at MTR in Hong Kong. They have one section on their website with videos of their proposed projects and some of those videos does have information on how the line is being constructed.

You talked about the tunnel...does it mean having a noise level barrier, covering the whole trackage? That might be a sensible option too.I agree with you on communication, but attitude and respect determine response.

There are a lot of people at Prasarana who are ready to dismiss protests as NIMBY-ing and they are also blaming the delays on "politics" and different "camps" among the opposition.

The article is an example of the typical Malaysian reporting - take the perspective of one side only, don't bother to do any research etc. As I said in my posting, if the State Government were really interfering they would have called for an extension to Shah Alam like the last BN state government did. And the current MB and EXCO have approved the LRT extensions in principle but also asked Prasarana and the MPSJ and MBSA to work out the issues with the residents, together.

So why does a source at Prasarana whine to the business times? Because sometimes it is just easier to blame the other guy to cover your own screw-ups.

As for the 'tunnel', my guess is that they will basically cover the whole right of way in the tightly-curved section between the KTM station and Jalan Jengka in Subang Jaya.

But you have to realize, there are 4th floor apartments that will be looking out at the train guideway. Whether they look at a train guideway like at Sooka Sentral Level 2 or they look at a tunnel, they will still be hearing and feeling the trains.

Examples:
Sooka Sentral food court (3rd or 4th Floor)

http://blog.officekami.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/21112009924scale600.jpg

Sushi King at Sooka Sentral 2nd Floor (and trains come even closer to the Kelantan Delights restaurant).

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/dsc00823.jpg

Call it NIMBY if you like but these are trains traveling in both directions, 7m from your home, at eye level, every 3-11 minutes, 16 hours per day.

Cheers, m

ps. check out this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aESxb0i4sew) of a train leaving KL Sentral on the way to Bangsar. Sooka Sentral appears from the left side, approximately 50 seconds into the video.

I remembered there is a clause in our legal system said that once you owned a parcel of land, and all the land beneath your house to the earth core is owned by you. Hence tunnelling underneath someone property is a headache as you are acquiring someone property.

Hence it is interesting to see how tunneling will go through all the residential area as the alignment should go along the road network, which all government owned land.

If the LRT line go underground, there will be an interesting engineering project as the ground soil in klang valley generally porous and soft.

Feel free to correct me if i am wrong.


Yes. Absolutely what I've been talking about since last time.

We have lotsa problems in our legal context and as such Prasarana would not want to get into trouble with that.

Again, I believe consultants are suggesting cutting down the size of MRT, as you know, projects would probably incur a cost overrun and that will DOOM Malaysia. Remember, it's a megaproject that we never do before.

As much as I like having better public transport, the right to enjoy one's own property is a more fundamental right than the right to mobility.

Blaming it on 'NIMBY-ing' excuses Prasarana and the local governments from their planning responsibilities - it should have been clear to them in 2006 that potential LRT routes needed to be protected from construction, and they should have taken action to make sure that this happened.

Prasarana should extend the LRT to the Subang Jaya KTM station to improve the quality of the network (with the interchange). They can also improve feeder bus services in USJ and to KTM Komuter stations, maybe even pay for the operation of special Komuter shuttle trains between Klang and Setia Jaya (which has the additional platform) - this would allow KTM Komuter passengers to transfer to the LRT.

All of this would mean that the LRT trains would be full from day one. Prasarana would not lose a huge amount of money and Sime Darby would benefit from the take-up of their Subang Jaya City Centre project.

The downside would be massive congestion around the KTM station which is not well placed...but the MPSJ expected a huge amount of congestion there already thanks to the new developments.

Cheers, m
I don't disagree with that - the property is something they own and they have a right to protect its value. But as far as I can see, all they've done is NIMBY and not suggested any other alternatives. I do recall the articles where they've proposed an alternate route at Subang Parade to run between SJP and Carrefour. That's what should be done instead of simplying not wanting it to go near their places.

Also, I think that the developers of Subang Jaya and USJ have to share a part of the blame. They didn't make their townships public transport friendly really. And the authorities who went ahead with things like the Subang Kelana Link without long term thinking made things worse too. But its a pretty typical Malaysian way to solve problems I guess, adding extra road capacity that would eventually get clogged anyway.

In any case, Prasarana should go ahead with sections that don't have issues while sorting out the ones that do. Perhaps that could lead to a decrease in delay on getting those sections off the ground. For instance, the Kelana Jaya line between Kelana Jaya and Subang Jaya could be constructed first. It would be easier to procure machinery and construction equipment after having used it once I'm sure. Expertise would also be around by then and they can continue on other sectors once the issues surrounding them have resolved.

What does it take to satisfy them first place???They got the Federal Highway,NKVE,KESAS,NPE ,the subang new link!!Did it solve the traffic problem???

Yes. Absolutely what I've been talking about since last time.

We have lotsa problems in our legal context and as such Prasarana would not want to get into trouble with that.

Again, I believe consultants are suggesting cutting down the size of MRT, as you know, projects would probably incur a cost overrun and that will DOOM Malaysia. Remember, it's a megaproject that we never do before.


Do it stage by stage, rather announce the whole value of project.

Instead of design and build contract, government should really consider alliance or public private partnership where all the parties share the loss and profit together.

I suggest they should just concentrate the LRT expansion first.

I would also suggest the consultant incorporate the concept of sustainability, such as design is capable accommodate future demand by stage to stage.

Really, government should educate the people in the same time as Malaysian drivers drive like a bull, and that is why Proton developed CAMPro, which is only for Malaysians only.

You can't please everybody
Published: 2010/10/02
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/srana-2/Article/

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/srana-2/Article/Current_News/BTIMES/Images/btgraph10/LRT2.jpg

That said, the question remains whether the extension to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines will be completed by the end of 2012.

SYARIKAT Prasarana Negara Bhd disclosed in September last year that it expected to start construction on the extension of its two light rail transit (LRT) lines in the Klang Valley early this year.

With just three months left in 2010, it hasn't done it yet.

The first instinct is to blame the state-owned public transport operator for the delay of the project. After all, for a long time, we have been calling for the government to make public transport more accessible to everyone.

But according to a project official, who asked not to be named, this inaccurately describes reality.

"I think Prasarana has been taking a lot of the blame for the delays unjustifiably," he said.

"What people do not understand is that since the public display of the proposed project in September last year, most time was spent in negotiations between the company and city councillors, State Assemblymen, members of non-governmental organisations and resident associations."

Residents from Putra Heights Section 2/3, Subang Alam and the Saujana Residency condominiums at SS16, for example, are against the LRT line extension, saying that the proposed LRT stations will be too close for comfort and will lead to unbearable noise levels.

They also claimed that they had bought their houses without prior knowledge on the LRT line extension.

Some homeowners fear that a house or condominium that's so close to a rail line that they hear and feel train noise and vibration may be difficult to sell or will be worth less than a similar property that is within walking distance.

Prasarana, on its part, has assured the residents that the proposed LRT alignment will be 7m from their homes and the distance would comply with the Department of Railways' guideline which stipulates that the track must be at least 6m away. It would also build a 100m noise-muffling tunnel around the elevated train tracks near the Saujana Residency condominiums.

A source familiar with the situation said the project delay is compounded by politics, where many politicians in opposition-ruled Selangor state are afraid of offending members of resident associations and parent teacher associations and are constantly delaying the project by questioning the rationale of building the extension, in the hope to garner their votes at the next general election.

"The project delay has become more of a political issue," the source said.

"Even among the Pakatan Rakyat politicians, there are two schools of thought: one that put aside their own self-interest to realise that the LRT extension will offer benefits to thousands of Klang Valley residents and another that believes that if they were to allow the project to proceed, it would only boost Barisan Nasional's reputation, after all the LRT extension is a federal government project," he added.

Still, because land is a state matter, much of the project's progress is dependent on when can Prasarana obtain a development order (DO) from the relevant local authority before it can start work on the project. Until then, it is expected to delay awarding the contract to the contractors.

As it stands at present, 90 per cent of this project falls under the Selangor state jurisdiction and the remaining 10 per cent is in the Federal Territory.

"Prasarana has written to the Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim to seek clearance for the project, but has yet to receive a reply," a company source said.

"Nevertheless, the company hopes to award some contracts by the end of this year and start constructing an LRT line on sections which it has received approvals from the Kuala Lumpur City Hall. For example, between the current Kelana Jaya LRT station and the KTM Komuter station in Subang Jaya," the source added.

That said, the question remains whether the extension to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines will be completed by the end of 2012.

Perhaps it is now time for the Selangor state government to draw the line - to put politics aside and put the people first. Because if you try to please everyone, nothing gets done.

We would do well to examine the experience of Singapore, whose introduction of the LRT system was not without its criticisms.

When it was proposed in the late 1990s to complement the existing mass rapid transit system, complaints abound that the new LRT system was more expensive compared with buses, less comprehensive in coverage and less reliable. However, its government proceeded with the construction anyway. Today, the republic has one of the world's best public transport systems.

That's it. I would say the unhappy residents and Prasana should compromise. This LRT extension is far more important to be cancelled, and government should intervene. Nothing can be done if objection is going on and on.

TRC Synergy, UEM Group in final race for LRT extension job
by Jose Barrock Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:42
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/175613-trc-synergy-uem-group-in-final-race-for-lrt-extension-job.html

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/images/stories/Thumbnails/19102010_highlight2.jpg

KUALA LUMPUR: TRC Synergy Bhd and UEM Builders Intria Bina Sdn Bhd are believed to be at the last mile of the race to win the contract for the extension of the light rail transit (LRT) near Kelana Jaya.

Sources familiar with the matter said Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, which is in charge of the country’s strategic planning of public transport, had recommended TRC Synergy to the Ministry of Finance to be the main contractor for the 9.2km LRT extension project.

If all goes well, TRC could bag the job as early as next month, a source said. Construction on the extension is slated to commence end of this year.

Nonetheless, UEM Builders Intria Bina Sdn Bhd’s joint venture (JV) is said to be lobbying hard to wrest the job from TRC’s clutches.

“They (UEM Builders Intria Bina) are lobbying very hard, but it looks like TRC is the front runner. However you cannot write off UEM (Builders Intria). They are a well-connected company,” the source said.

UEM Builders is wholly owned by UEM Group, in which government investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd, is the sole shareholder.

The cost of the civil works for the extension is estimated to be from RM900 million to slightly more than RM1 billion.

It is not known what was TRC’s bid, and its officials could not be reached for comments over the weekend.

You can't please everybody
Published: 2010/10/02
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/srana-2/Article/

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/srana-2/Article/Current_News/BTIMES/Images/btgraph10/LRT2.jpg

That said, the question remains whether the extension to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines will be completed by the end of 2012.

SYARIKAT Prasarana Negara Bhd disclosed in September last year that it expected to start construction on the extension of its two light rail transit (LRT) lines in the Klang Valley early this year.

With just three months left in 2010, it hasn't done it yet.

The first instinct is to blame the state-owned public transport operator for the delay of the project. After all, for a long time, we have been calling for the government to make public transport more accessible to everyone.

But according to a project official, who asked not to be named, this inaccurately describes reality.

"I think Prasarana has been taking a lot of the blame for the delays unjustifiably," he said.

"What people do not understand is that since the public display of the proposed project in September last year, most time was spent in negotiations between the company and city councillors, State Assemblymen, members of non-governmental organisations and resident associations."

Residents from Putra Heights Section 2/3, Subang Alam and the Saujana Residency condominiums at SS16, for example, are against the LRT line extension, saying that the proposed LRT stations will be too close for comfort and will lead to unbearable noise levels.

They also claimed that they had bought their houses without prior knowledge on the LRT line extension.

Some homeowners fear that a house or condominium that's so close to a rail line that they hear and feel train noise and vibration may be difficult to sell or will be worth less than a similar property that is within walking distance.

Prasarana, on its part, has assured the residents that the proposed LRT alignment will be 7m from their homes and the distance would comply with the Department of Railways' guideline which stipulates that the track must be at least 6m away. It would also build a 100m noise-muffling tunnel around the elevated train tracks near the Saujana Residency condominiums.

A source familiar with the situation said the project delay is compounded by politics, where many politicians in opposition-ruled Selangor state are afraid of offending members of resident associations and parent teacher associations and are constantly delaying the project by questioning the rationale of building the extension, in the hope to garner their votes at the next general election.

"The project delay has become more of a political issue," the source said.

"Even among the Pakatan Rakyat politicians, there are two schools of thought: one that put aside their own self-interest to realise that the LRT extension will offer benefits to thousands of Klang Valley residents and another that believes that if they were to allow the project to proceed, it would only boost Barisan Nasional's reputation, after all the LRT extension is a federal government project," he added.

Still, because land is a state matter, much of the project's progress is dependent on when can Prasarana obtain a development order (DO) from the relevant local authority before it can start work on the project. Until then, it is expected to delay awarding the contract to the contractors.

As it stands at present, 90 per cent of this project falls under the Selangor state jurisdiction and the remaining 10 per cent is in the Federal Territory.

"Prasarana has written to the Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim to seek clearance for the project, but has yet to receive a reply," a company source said.

"Nevertheless, the company hopes to award some contracts by the end of this year and start constructing an LRT line on sections which it has received approvals from the Kuala Lumpur City Hall. For example, between the current Kelana Jaya LRT station and the KTM Komuter station in Subang Jaya," the source added.

That said, the question remains whether the extension to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines will be completed by the end of 2012.

Perhaps it is now time for the Selangor state government to draw the line - to put politics aside and put the people first. Because if you try to please everyone, nothing gets done.

We would do well to examine the experience of Singapore, whose introduction of the LRT system was not without its criticisms.

When it was proposed in the late 1990s to complement the existing mass rapid transit system, complaints abound that the new LRT system was more expensive compared with buses, less comprehensive in coverage and less reliable. However, its government proceeded with the construction anyway. Today, the republic has one of the world's best public transport systems.

I guess these are the typical Malaysian thoughts???

In Hong Kong & Singapore, residents wants MRT drive next to their home, so that they can reach the MRT station in walking distance or taking other mode of public transport to their working place... MRT near to the residential area = very good, can easily sell or rent for a very high price...

In Malaysia, residents wants the LRT to build far from their home, so that they can still drive to LRT station or directly drive to their working place... LRT near to the residential area = no good, very hard to sell or rent a good price...

In HK SG, not many own a car... :lol:
In Malaysia, every1 own a car... :nuts:

KL cannot compared with HK, we have different urban sprawl. HK 1st MRT line is a success because it run through the most densely populated parts in HK. KL is not as dense as HK, and because of urban sprawl of KL, planning an MRT with high coverage is a difficult task.

Firstly, urban centers of KL is not centralized, means: where is the city center? Around Masjid Jamek or Bukit Bintang? Then where should become the place where all transit system crossed? Commuting map of KL is very complicated compared with HK: with most of HK-ers moving from suburban into Kowloon and Central. KL is the other thing, so I think before we have good MRT system, we should have proper urban planning so MRT can going into its full potential.

For example, residential areas in Ampang Jaya (MPAJ) needs MRT badly, but how govt going to implement MRT in Ampang Jaya? The roads are extremely narrow, where the stations and viaducts be built? The only solution is to dismantle some houses and buildings, priced paid by bad urban planning leftover by previous MPAJ mistakes.

LRT near residential areas causes terrible noise pollution, especially those beside Ampang Line and KTM Komuter. Perhaps whole line underground is best solution? People will still complaining abt their houses sinking. Behind my house is Ampang Line, property price is high because nearby to Maluri LRT station, but for the blocks near Ampang Line, the price is lower because noise pollution made by Ampang Line, hard to sleep before 11pm. For new MRT systems, government should use rubber-tired EMU for MRT lines to reduce noise pollution, then property prices near MRT system may rise.

In HK and SG, many people, near every1 have a car, but not all drive everyday.

^^

rubber tyre? seriously? like monorail's tyre is it? i think i might not be such a good idea coz as we all know, like ordinary rubber tyre it must be replaced with a new one once the groove disappear. think of the cost..

I guess these are the typical Malaysian thoughts???

In Hong Kong & Singapore, residents wants MRT drive next to their home, so that they can reach the MRT station in walking distance or taking other mode of public transport to their working place... MRT near to the residential area = very good, can easily sell or rent for a very high price...

In Malaysia, residents wants the LRT to build far from their home, so that they can still drive to LRT station or directly drive to their working place... LRT near to the residential area = no good, very hard to sell or rent a good price...

In HK SG, not many own a car... :lol:
In Malaysia, every1 own a car... :nuts:

yeap totally agreed .... :nuts::nuts:

^^

rubber tyre? seriously? like monorail's tyre is it? i think i might not be such a good idea coz as we all know, like ordinary rubber tyre it must be replaced with a new one once the groove disappear. think of the cost..

Haha... "metal tyre" also need regular maintenance. Think of the cost.

of course alot of people will have cynicism about this whole MRT but i have met some of these folks in ETP team i have never met more impressive quasi or civil servant that truly passionate and dedicate about development than them , key issue for me is if you want to make this project world class and sustainable then it must come with a little bit of pain during construction period and subsidy of gas must go so you make market forces at work to find whatever is the most effective form of connectivity among users and congestion charges will have to follow after that so you can take that money to for maintenance , services , etc like i live in fulham london right now even though i have a car but it is simply not viable for me to drive around so ill just use my car during weekend or odd occasion other time i simply swipe my oyster to move about , population of greater going to reach about 5-7 million next decade if you can get half of them on MRT its going to be okay

According from the Hektar Group (Subang Parade Owner??) the car pak (outside) just to be closed due to the LRT project. This land already sold to the gov or Prasarana??
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs005.snc4/33601_1618909159943_1452817164_1620092_7019573_n.jpg

So now the LRT extension is still on? And the MRT project will start next year as well? If tis is true and both projects are ongoing........I'd be very very happy...

LRT extension is sure on, but I really hope govt consider use rubber-tyre EMU for Ampang Line because of environment concern. People live nearby LRT can't sleep before 11pm, but they have to wake up in 6.30am.

People object it mostly because of noise pollution made by LRT, that's why property price beside LRT (not LRT station) is low, same as those beside expressway.

So now the LRT extension is still on? And the MRT project will start next year as well? If tis is true and both projects are ongoing........I'd be very very happy...

According to RapidKL twitter, it is on.

http://twitter.com/MyRapidKL/status/27014295621

http://twitter.com/MyRapidKL/status/27812992592

Also, in the Twitter page, they mentioned that they are going to integrate the fare system for monorail + LRT into one.

LRT extension is sure on, but I really hope govt consider use rubber-tyre EMU for Ampang Line because of environment concern. People live nearby LRT can't sleep before 11pm, but they have to wake up in 6.30am.

People object it mostly because of noise pollution made by LRT, that's why property price beside LRT (not LRT station) is low, same as those beside expressway.

Rubber tyre EMU for Ampang line is very unlikely. This is because the Ampang line has been designed as steel wheel on rail infrastructure, and as this is an extension project, switching to another type is in my opinion, very impossible.

Substantial orders in line for TRC Synergy — Analysts
Posted on October 20, 2010, Wednesday
http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=69714

KUCHING: Given the green light for several construction projects to commence under Budget 2011, construction player TRC Synergy Bhd (TRC Synergy) was slated to clinch the role of main contractor for the 9.2 kilometre (km) Kelana Jaya line on the back of benefitting from various jobs in Sarawak’s construction market.

Analysts at HwangDBS Vickers Research Sdn Bhd (HwangDBS Research) understood that the group was the frontrunner to be the main contractor for

the Kelana Jaya line in the Klang Valley, part of the 17.7km stretch which closed for tender in late August

and was awaiting award.

The research house estimated total contract value to be worth at least RM1 to RM1.5 billion, half of the RM2.5 to RM3 billion for Package A that included 7.2km of Ampang line.

The procurement of this project, said the research firm, would see TRC Synergy’s order book ballooning four-fold to RM1.9 billion from a current RM0.4 billion which implied a four or five years earnings visibility.

This was on the back of TRC Synergy hoping to see substantial order book replenishment over the next three to six months after a period of muted contract wins.

Its total tender book which amounted to RM3.3 billion included the light railway transit (LRT) extensions and infrastructure works worth approximately RM1 billion in the Sarawak Corridor of Renewable Energy (SCORE) project amidst a RM200 million job for the East Coast Economic Region (ECER).

It noted that TRC Synergy’s UPK licence would allow the group to compete in the closed Sarawak construction market which is currently dominated by a handful of players.

The research house understood that there were 15 packages in SCORE that was opened to UPK licence holders.

HwangDBS Research sustained its belief that contract flows in the state would be strong, given the anticipated rollout of more projects in SCORE and the upcoming state elections.

Contractors for LRT project to be shortlisted next month
Thursday October 21, 2010

The LRT extension programme will see the addition of 13 stations each to Ampang and Kelana Jaya lines

PETALING JAYA: Contractors shortlisted for the first phase of the RM7bil of the light rail transit (LRT) extension would be announced by early next month said an industry source.

The first phase of the extension or package A for both Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines involved 9.2km and 7.39km of construction length respectively.

The total extension length of the Kelana Jaya line is 17km and Ampang line 17.7km. The extension programme will see an additional 13 stations for each line.

The main construction or facilities work involves infrastructure components such as the guideway, piers and stations as well as the casting and delivery of segmental box girder for both lines.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, a state-owned public transport operator that owns the assets of the two LRT lines, held a pre-bid briefing with the pre-qualified contractors for package A on June 22. The contractors were requested to submit their tenders in August.

It is understood the briefing was attended by 15 construction companies that included Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, IJM Construction Sdn Bhd, Muhibbah Engineering Sdn Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, Bina Puri Holdings Bhd, Loh & Loh Corp Bhd and MRCB Engineering Sdn Bhd. — By SHARIDAN M. ALI

sometimes,i feel awkward with malaysian old-fashion thought.
huh~~~

yup ashraf.. tis wat PM always said we have 1st class infrastructure but our ppl have 3rd class mentality... so sad..:(

Finally, lets hope the transit system in Klang Valley change for the better with these two upcoming projects...

LRT extension is sure on, but I really hope govt consider use rubber-tyre EMU for Ampang Line because of environment concern. People live nearby LRT can't sleep before 11pm, but they have to wake up in 6.30am.

People object it mostly because of noise pollution made by LRT, that's why property price beside LRT (not LRT station) is low, same as those beside expressway.

Rubber tyre EMU for Ampang line is very unlikely. This is because the Ampang line has been designed as steel wheel on rail infrastructure, and as this is an extension project, switching to another type is in my opinion, very impossible.
Both are correct. I can't understand why the Ampang Line trains are so loud. And everytime they enter an elevated station, it seems they shake the entire ground beneath them. But at the same time, its something that the residents need to put up with. Changing the system involves more than you think - rubber tyred metros exist in France, Mexico, Canada and Taiwan. Ampang Line is of the high capacity type, the ones you can find in France, Mexico & Canada. Taiwan's system is a medium capacity one.

For the high capacity systems, they run on both steel and rubber tyres. The steel track is used in the event should one of the rubber tyres give way - the train can still run in this instance. It also provides steering at the crossover points. In addition to the steel rails, there's the concrete running track for the rubber tyres. And also guide rails on both sides for steering and power supply. So converting the Ampang Line would take up immense funding - you either modify the current rolling stock or get a new one altogether. Not sure if it can even run concurrently due to ehe upgrades needed on the tracks.

Finally, lets hope the transit system in Klang Valley change for the better with these two upcoming projects...

It should get better, at least the LRT extension covers unserved areas such Subang, USJ, Puchong and Kinrara, creating loop that does provide an alternative to LDP highway.

MRT lines serve unserved area such as Damansara, Kepong...

They need get the feeder bus service right though, if not...people will simply anywhere near the station, causing congestion.

They need to implement integrated multi-modal interchanges. Subang would be a prime candidate - imagine the bus interchange (where most buses can terminate), KTM and LRT all together in one location. That would be great! :) Perhaps another such facility in Puchong for buses and the LRT, something similar to the Bus Hubs that RapidKL implemented. A hub and spoke system if you may, for buses.

Funny after all this time they never thought of it!!!!!Subang is perfect for it,Puchong also but not Putra Heights!!!In my mind there is a hidden hand pushing for it for their selfish future development projects in that area!

yup ashraf.. tis wat PM always said we have 1st class infrastructure but our ppl have 3rd class mentality... so sad..:(

yer lorh...
almost every house in the city have a car.then they complain about traffic jam,jalan teruk, and so forth.aiyo...that's why la gov build this thing.

Funny after all this time they never thought of it!!!!!Subang is perfect for it,Puchong also but not Putra Heights!!!In my mind there is a hidden hand pushing for it for their selfish future development projects in that area!

Yalo, tat Siam Dibi lo......hehe well so will the extension of both LRT lines still terminate at P. Heights? Well then again the P. Heights can serve as a terminus for future extension south towards Saujana Putra-KLIA

Subang Jaya is perfect place for intergration between Eastern Klang Valley metro system and Western Klang Valley metro system, because it is on the location between them. Putra Heights may be good intergration location between Eastern, Southern (Putrajaya, Serdang, Kajang, Bangi, Nilai and Seremban) and Western.

Klang Valley LRT extension project at design stage
By Bernama
Tuesday, 23 November 2010 16:27

KUALA LUMPUR: The government's plan to extend the light rail transit (LRT) service in the Klang Valley is well underway, the Dewan Rakyat was told on Tuesday, Nov 23.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri said the extension project was now in its final stages of detailed designing, with over 95% already completed.

"Meanwhile, land acquisition and utility relocation are being done simultaneously," he said in reply to a question from Datuk Nur Jazlan Mohamed (BN-Kulai).

He said the project involved a 17.7 kilometre route extension to the Ampang line which will create 13 new stations and a 17 kilometre extension to the Kelana Jaya line whereby 13 new stations would.

Abdul Rahim said this in response to Nur Jazlan's question on the status of the LRT extension project in the Klang Valley and its benefits in terms of economic returns and interests to the public.

Abdul Rahim said the RM7 billion project was expected to be complete in 2013 in efforts to cater to passengers during peak hours, as well as provide commuters more comfort while travelling.

In addition to that, the project will present 2,000 job opportunities during its construction and 800 more after it operates.

"The 26 new stations will positively affect the economy of surrounding areas. Usually 60% of land and development within 400 metres from the LRT station will increase in value by 15%," he said.

Abdul Rahim said extension of the LRT lines will prove to be beneficial to the public in terms of reduced travelling time, traffic congestion, direct costs such as fuel, tyre wear and tear and toll fare, as well as improving comfort and living standards of the people.

He added that upon completion, the two LRT lines will connect at the Putra Heights station and form a complete rail system in the Klang Valley.

The Kelana Jaya line extension will be able to increase passenger capacity up to 98,000 during peak hours, while extension of the Ampang line can cater to 79,800 passengers. — Bernama

LRT extension jobs to be awarded soon
By Yong Yen Nie
Friday, 26 November 2010 15:34

KUALA LUMPUR: The government is expected to award the jobs for the long-awaited light rail transit (LRT) extension project soon, and successful bidders have been short-listed, sources said.

According to a source familiar with the matter, parties that had lobbied for the LRT extension jobs for the Ampang and Kelana Jaya lines include UEM Group, IJM Corp Bhd, Bina Puri Holdings Bhd and TRC Synergies Bhd.

The contracts to be awarded will be for the building of LRT stations, laying groundwork and alignment before constructing the railway. The total extension length of the Kelana Jaya line is 17km and for the Ampang line 17.7km. Both extensions will see an additional 13 stations each.

It is learnt that Bina Puri is in the forefront to win the LRT extension job for the Ampang line worth about RM600 million.

Bina Puri has won several jobs of late, including the construction of a RM9 million hospital in Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, and more significantly, the RM997 million contract to develop the main buildings at the proposed new low-cost carrier terminal in Sepang.

Bina Puri will develop a portion of the LCCT via a joint venture with UEM Construction Sdn Bhd, a unit of the UEM Group.

Meanwhile, TRC is tipped to bag the main contract for the Kelana Jaya line extension, estimated to be worth between RM900 million and RM1 billion, a source said.

"UEM Builders Intria Bina Sdn Bhd (UEM Builders), a wholly-owned unit of the UEM Group, is believed to be eyeing the job as well, but is not likely to get it," the source said.

UEM Builders is wholly-owned by UEM Group, which in turn is wholly-owned by government investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd.

Both TRC Synergy and UEM Builders are understood to be in the last lap of bagging the contract, but sources said Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, which is in charge of the country's strategic planning for public transport, had recommended TRC Synergy to the Ministry of Finance to be the main contractor for the LRT extension project.

Despite Prasarana's preference for TRC, it is said that UEM Builders was lobbying hard for the job.

The LRT extension is one of the government's major infrastructure projects under the Economic Transformation Programme. The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT line extension will commence from Lembah Subang-Kelana Business Centre, through Subang, USJ, Alam Megah and end at the hub in Putra Heights.

Meanwhile, the proposed Ampang LRT extension line will commence from the present Sri Petaling station, pass through Puchong, Kinrara and end at the hub in Putra Heights.

It is believed that construction on the extensions is slated to commence by the end of this year.

The first phase, or Package A, of both Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines will see 9.2km and 7.39km of construction length respectively.

3 firms get Klang Valley LRT extension jobs
Published: 2010/11/26
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20101126211216/Article/index_html

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (Prasarana) today announced the appointment of three contractors for the implementation of the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines extension projects.

Prasarana in a statement today said the scope of work for the Kelana Jaya line is a 17km extension from the Kelana Jaya station to Putra Heights, consisting of 13 new stations.

The statement said Trans Resources Corporation Sdn Bhd had been appointed the main contractor with a contract value of RM950 million for a duration of 30 months.

UEM Builders Bhd-Intria Bina Sdn Bhd JV has been nominated the sub-contractor for the fabrication and delivery of Segmental Box Girders (SBG) with a contract value of RM93.160 million for a 21-month duration.

It said the Ampang line project is a 17.7km extension between Sri Petaling and Putra Heights with 13 new stations.

Bina Puri Holdings Berhad-Tim Sekata JV have been appointed the main contractor at a contract value of RM634.639 million for a 27-month duration and also for the fabrication and delivery of SBG at a RM67.697 million contract for 19 months, it added.

Prasarana said both main contractors are responsible for all guideway sub-structure and main structure works as well as the foundation work for stations and traction power sub-stations (TPSS).

In addition, within the total contract value, the main contractors will also manage the nominated sub-contractors for contracts worth RM469 million (Kelana Jaya Line) and RM305 million (Ampang Line) respectively, it added.

"The nominated sub-contractors to be appointed by Prasarana through a separate ongoing open tender process, covers the construction of stations and TPSS, supply and install of escalators and lifts and construction of multi-storey car parks," it explained.

It said the selection of the contractors was done through an open tender process, beginning. November last year.-- Bernama

Project to increase passenger capacity to 180,000 per hour
2010/11/26
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/8roz/Article

for contracts worth RM469 million (Kelana Jaya line) and RM305 million (Ampang line) respectively.

The nominated sub-contractors, which will be appointed through a separate open tender, will construct stations and TPSS; supply and install escalators and lifts; and construct multi-storey car parks.

Prasarana has also named UEM Builders-Intria Bina Sdn Bhd JV and BPHB-Tim Sekata JV as sub-contractor of the segmental box girders (SBGs) fabrication and delivery for the Kelana Jaya and Ampang extensions.

Contracts for the SBGs were worth RM93.1 million for UEM Builders-Intria Bina and RM67.7 million for BPHB-Tim Sekata JV. The SBGs are expected to be delivered within 21 months. Prasarana also said the tender for facilities works under Package B for both lines would be called upon the approval of the final railway scheme, expected by the middle of next year.

The New Straits Times reported yesterday that under Package A, Trans Resources would construct the section between Kelana Jaya station to Station 7 (near Summit Shopping Centre), a distance of 9.2km. BPHB-Tim Sekata JV will carry out works between the first 7.4km between Seri Petaling to Station 5 (Jalan Kinrara).

The line extension project will see a 17km extension of the Kelana Jaya line between Kelana Jaya station and Putra Heights in Puchong (13 new stations) and a 17.7km extension of the Ampang line between Sri Petaling to Putra Heights with 13 new stations. Putra Heights will be an interchange station connecting both lines.

The Kelana Jaya extension will increase passenger capacity up to 98,000 during peak hours, while extension of the Ampang line can cater to 79,800 passengers.

30 months construction period. I wonder if they have gone ahead and ordered additional trains for the Ampang Line. As it is now, the morning trains are packed. Even though the trains are longer, the rotten frequencies if compared to the KJ Line sort of negated those carriage capacity advantages.

LRT extension jobs to be awarded soon
By Yong Yen Nie Friday, 26 November 2010 15:34
http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/5623-lrt-extension-jobs-to-be-awarded-soon.html

KUALA LUMPUR: The government is expected to award the jobs for the long-awaited light rail transit (LRT) extension project soon, and successful bidders have been short-listed, sources said.

According to a source familiar with the matter, parties that had lobbied for the LRT extension jobs for the Ampang and Kelana Jaya lines include UEM Group, IJM Corp Bhd, Bina Puri Holdings Bhd and TRC Synergies Bhd.

The contracts to be awarded will be for the building of LRT stations, laying groundwork and alignment before constructing the railway. The total extension length of the Kelana Jaya line is 17km and for the Ampang line 17.7km. Both extensions will see an additional 13 stations each.

It is learnt that Bina Puri is in the forefront to win the LRT extension job for the Ampang line worth about RM600 million.

Bina Puri has won several jobs of late, including the construction of a RM9 million hospital in Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, and more significantly, the RM997 million contract to develop the main buildings at the proposed new low-cost carrier terminal in Sepang.

Bina Puri will develop a portion of the LCCT via a joint venture with UEM Construction Sdn Bhd, a unit of the UEM Group.

Meanwhile, TRC is tipped to bag the main contract for the Kelana Jaya line extension, estimated to be worth between RM900 million and RM1 billion, a source said.

"UEM Builders Intria Bina Sdn Bhd (UEM Builders), a wholly-owned unit of the UEM Group, is believed to be eyeing the job as well, but is not likely to get it," the source said.

UEM Builders is wholly-owned by UEM Group, which in turn is wholly-owned by government investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd.

Both TRC Synergy and UEM Builders are understood to be in the last lap of bagging the contract, but sources said Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd, which is in charge of the country's strategic planning for public transport, had recommended TRC Synergy to the Ministry of Finance to be the main contractor for the LRT extension project.

Despite Prasarana's preference for TRC, it is said that UEM Builders was lobbying hard for the job.

The LRT extension is one of the government's major infrastructure projects under the Economic Transformation Programme. The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT line extension will commence from Lembah Subang-Kelana Business Centre, through Subang, USJ, Alam Megah and end at the hub in Putra Heights.

Meanwhile, the proposed Ampang LRT extension line will commence from the present Sri Petaling station, pass through Puchong, Kinrara and end at the hub in Putra Heights.

It is believed that construction on the extensions is slated to commence by the end of this year.

The first phase, or Package A, of both Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines will see 9.2km and 7.39km of construction length respectively.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/12/17/central/m_02lrtrout.jpg

SPNB awards RM1.7bil jobs for LRT extension
Saturday November 27, 2010
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/11/27/business/7512467&sec=business

PETALING JAYA: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) has awarded contracts worth RM1.7bil for the first phase (Package A) of the RM7bil light rail transit (LRT) extension project involving the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines.

In a statement yesterday, SPNB, which was established by the Finance Ministry to facilitate, undertake and expedite infrastructure projects for the Government, said the main contractor facilities job for Package A of the Kelana Jaya line, valued at RM950mil, was awarded to Trans Resources Corp Bhd. The work will take 30 months to complete.

UEM Builders Bhd and Intria Bina Sdn Bhd were jointly appointed the nominated sub-contractors for the fabrication and delivery of segmental box girder jobs worth RM93.16mil, which is expected to take 21 months to complete.

Package A of the Kelana Jaya line will be a 9.2km extension from the Kelana Jaya station to Summit (Station 7). Package B will involve a 7.8km extension from Station 7 to the Putra Heights station.

Meanwhile, the main contractor facilities job for Package A of the Ampang line was jointly awarded to Bina Puri Holdings Bhd and Tim Sekata. Valued at RM634.64mil, the work will take 27 months to complete.

Bina Puri and Tim Sekata were also jointly appointed the nominated sub-contractors for the fabrication and delivery of segmental box girder jobs, which is valued at RM67.70mil and expected to take 19 months to complete.

Package A of the Ampang line will be a new 7.4km stretch from the Seri Petaling station to Station No. 5, while Package B will see a 10.3km extension from Station No. 5 to the Putra Heights Station.

SPNB said recipients of the main contractor facilities jobs would be responsible for all guideway sub-structure and main structure works, foundation work for stations and traction power sub-stations (TPSS), to launch and install segmental box girders and to supply and install parapets and noise barriers.

In addition, within the total contract value, the main contractors will also manage the nominated sub-contractors for contracts worth RM469mil (Kelana Jaya line) and RM305mil (Ampang line).

SPNB said the selection of the contractors was done through an open-tender process starting from November 2009. A total of 119 applications were received, but one was rejected due to failure to comply with application guidelines.

The tender for the facilities works under Package B for both lines will be called upon approval of the final railway scheme, which is expected by mid-2011.

With the appointment of the main contractors, it is expected that work on the line extension projects will start as soon as possible, SPNB said.

OMG! tak start lagi ke? dah bertahun dah bercakap. baru in 'design stage'? :ohno:

OMG! tak start lagi ke? dah bertahun dah bercakap. baru in 'design stage'? :ohno:

skrang awarding the tender and advance design stage :lol:



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yer lorh...
almost every house in the city have a car.then they complain about traffic jam,jalan teruk, and so forth.aiyo...that's why la gov build this thing.

haha...btul3!!! n i juz cant accept for those ppl who xnk tis station nearby their house but still complain bout traffic. haih...:bash:

skrang awarding the tender and advance design stage :lol:



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awarding tender is not 'design stage' isn't it? this is not design and built project.

awarding tender is not 'design stage' isn't it? this is not design and built project.

i meant advance design stage AND at the same time awarding the main contractor first.....

Both are correct. I can't understand why the Ampang Line trains are so loud.

1. Keep grinding the suface of steel rails during the wee hour from midnight to 6 AM
2. Keep putting the wheel into the lathe for smoothign the surface profile accordign to the schedule.
3. Erecting the thicker sound barrier along the tracks

I think the lrt in KL whether it is the putra or the star have that steel wheel sound. It if as the train is not insulated (not thick enough) to minimise the noise from the wheels. I've seen this kind of sound with some bombardier train in Singapore which produces the same noise. Hopefully i would expect the new lrt/mrt trains to be quiter (like in delhi metro, HK's MTR or dubai metro which much quiter) not like the current LRT ones.

:banana: at last.. i bet we could see this running up in 3 years.

next is the MRT.. hope Gamuda could finish up the double-track in 3 years period as well for the north. Maybe can relocate myself out of KV and travel to KV everyday for work.

I think the lrt in KL whether it is the putra or the star have that steel wheel sound. It if as the train is not insulated (not thick enough) to minimise the noise from the wheels. I've seen this kind of sound with some bombardier train in Singapore which produces the same noise. Hopefully i would expect the new lrt/mrt trains to be quiter (like in delhi metro, HK's MTR or dubai metro which much quiter) not like the current LRT ones.

Hi there ! Bombardier trains you said ? Interesting, I didn't know that the DTL is already operational.

^^ It isn't, so we don't have any Bombardier heavy rail here. I don't know what Bombardier trains he's referring to. We only have 19 CX-100s in service on the Bukit Panjang LRT line. Other than that, 73 Movia 3-car trains are being built. They're only scheduled to arrive from 2012 and not any earlier than that. :lol:

Older lines - Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Siemens trains
North East Line - Alstom Metropolis trains
Circle Line - Alstom Metropolis trains
Sengkang & Punggol LRT & Changi Skytrain - Mitsubishi Crystal Mover APM

Good to finally see some more concrete news on the extensions. Have they sorted out the issues with the Subang residents yet?

^^ It isn't, so we don't have any Bombardier heavy rail here. I don't know what Bombardier trains he's referring to. We only have 19 CX-100s in service on the Bukit Panjang LRT line. Other than that, 73 Movia 3-car trains are being built. They're only scheduled to arrive from 2012 and not any earlier than that. :lol:

Older lines - Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Siemens trains
North East Line - Alstom Metropolis trains
Circle Line - Alstom Metropolis trains
Sengkang & Punggol LRT & Changi Skytrain - Mitsubishi Crystal Mover APM

Good to finally see some more concrete news on the extensions. Have they sorted out the issues with the Subang residents yet?

Yes those CXs are running on rubber wheels on concrete, maybe he's referring to the Alstom trains instead, but I noticed those C830 runs much quieter than them Bombardiers in KJ line.

Seeing that they're moving ahead with the extension up to (down to) Summit, maybe it's not an issue to Prasarana anymore, so far haven't heard of any settlement/compromise with those Subang people. Oh well lar, you know lar. No comments from me. :P

Perhaps the NEL Alstoms, they're louder than the CCL ones. Acela, care to give any hints what you're talking about? :lol:

I guess so. But seriously, Subang has planned for transit really badly I feel. From 2006 there's been talk of the LRT going through but I've not seen any reserved land for such services... Unless they thought it would go underground. But that's just so expensive. They better hope it doesn't become like the Bukit Panjang LRT here which has terrible sudden twists, turns, up-slopes and down-slopes. It has those because it was built to fit into an existing township, not the township built around it.

Sorry my mistake to single out Bombardier train. Just checked at youtube, yes i believe it was an alstom train i was referring. Thank you for highlighting.

They need to implement integrated multi-modal interchanges. Subang would be a prime candidate - imagine the bus interchange (where most buses can terminate), KTM and LRT all together in one location. That would be great! :) Perhaps another such facility in Puchong for buses and the LRT, something similar to the Bus Hubs that RapidKL implemented. A hub and spoke system if you may, for buses.Unfortunately, Subang Jaya KTM station is not the greatest location for a bus interchange, given the tight site location (Federal Highway and KTM tracks to the north, SJCC project to the south) and congestion and limited number of roads going in and out.

Now, if you look at Batu Tiga or the Shah Alam stadium area :-) of course, they are in the "middle of nowhere" in terms of density.

Cheers, m

1. Keep grinding the suface of steel rails during the wee hour from midnight to 6 AM
2. Keep putting the wheel into the lathe for smoothign the surface profile accordign to the schedule.
3. Erecting the thicker sound barrier along the tracksexactly - that will deal with the squealing and some of the vibration by reducing flat spots on the railhead and the wheels..

but what about the vibration when the trains enter and leave stations? I know that part of the design was to elevate the stations above the guideway to aid in deceleration and acceleration.

My guess is that the elevation of the stations above the guideway causes the transfer of kinetic energy from the trains to the station structure - and the vibration occurs because the stations have very few columns and a "flexible" design....

but how does that explain the vibration when the trains leave the stations without a significant amount of kinetic energy.

Cheers, m

Perhaps the NEL Alstoms, they're louder than the CCL ones. Acela, care to give any hints what you're talking about? :lol:

I guess so. But seriously, Subang has planned for transit really badly I feel. From 2006 there's been talk of the LRT going through but I've not seen any reserved land for such services... Unless they thought it would go underground. But that's just so expensive. They better hope it doesn't become like the Bukit Panjang LRT here which has terrible sudden twists, turns, up-slopes and down-slopes. It has those because it was built to fit into an existing township, not the township built around it.Sigh...I warned the "community leaders" and Prasarana a long time ago to protect that land for the LRT guideway - but I still believe that Subang would be better served with a tram system that would allow for multiple feeder lines into Subang Jaya KTM.

Frankly, the biggest constraints to public transport planning in Malaysia (and exemplified in Subang) are:

1. Incomplete, High-impact highway projects coming first and foremost (look what the Subang Kelana Link has done to Subang roads and public transport planning)

2. Unrealistic expectations (Subang Jaya residents thought that they could build an LRT from Subang to Sunway to USJ and back)

A more realistic solution would have been tram-based feeder lines and a stronger, expanded core "LRT" line with high-frequency of 4-carriage trains as well as a stronger, expanded KTM Komuter service.

Cheers, m

Unfortunately, Subang Jaya KTM station is not the greatest location for a bus interchange, given the tight site location (Federal Highway and KTM tracks to the north, SJCC project to the south) and congestion and limited number of roads going in and out.

Now, if you look at Batu Tiga or the Shah Alam stadium area :-) of course, they are in the "middle of nowhere" in terms of density.

Cheers, m
I understand the constraints on the Subang site. I did mention it would be a prime candidate though as it is a station that serves a township and figured that perhaps the buses could use the road between Subang Parade & Carrefour to exit into Subang proper. From there they could disperse to other areas in Subang or even head to the Federal Highway. If it were implemented, it could be a model replicated elsewhere to facilitate seamless connectivity. Seriously, they could take a note from Singapore even - we have bus interchanges integrated into shopping centres too. But I guess it would take some time yet to get to that stage even.

Sigh...I warned the "community leaders" and Prasarana a long time ago to protect that land for the LRT guideway - but I still believe that Subang would be better served with a tram system that would allow for multiple feeder lines into Subang Jaya KTM.

Frankly, the biggest constraints to public transport planning in Malaysia (and exemplified in Subang) are:

1. Incomplete, High-impact highway projects coming first and foremost (look what the Subang Kelana Link has done to Subang roads and public transport planning)

2. Unrealistic expectations (Subang Jaya residents thought that they could build an LRT from Subang to Sunway to USJ and back)

A more realistic solution would have been tram-based feeder lines and a stronger, expanded core "LRT" line with high-frequency of 4-carriage trains as well as a stronger, expanded KTM Komuter service.

Cheers, m
Trying to understand you. So what you mean is an LRT line with limited stops but directly cutting through the township with a tram system as a feeder? I guess it would only work after the congestion has been cleared.

I never agreed with the Subang Kelana Link anyway and its monstrous structure is hideous. How has it impacted the road there? Haven't had a chance to really see it. Unrealistic expectations is a bit laughable actually... They honestly wanted it to go to Sunway en route to USJ? That's a terrible amount of back-tracking to be done. A spur I can understand, but back-tracking is redundant. Speaking of a spur, have Prasarana ever thought of provisions for such?

I think we need to forget about tram system, allurban. It seems no one in the government or prasarana interested on it. Only Melaka state government has mentioned about it. Even in the 10th Malaysia Plan, the NKRA, and the ETP, they never ever mentioned about TRAM. And also the BRT system seems to be abandoned. Correct me if I'm wrong....

I understand the constraints on the Subang site. I did mention it would be a prime candidate though as it is a station that serves a township and figured that perhaps the buses could use the road between Subang Parade & Carrefour to exit into Subang proper. From there they could disperse to other areas in Subang or even head to the Federal Highway. If it were implemented, it could be a model replicated elsewhere to facilitate seamless connectivity. Seriously, they could take a note from Singapore even - we have bus interchanges integrated into shopping centres too. But I guess it would take some time yet to get to that stage even.


Trying to understand you. So what you mean is an LRT line with limited stops but directly cutting through the township with a tram system as a feeder? I guess it would only work after the congestion has been cleared.

I never agreed with the Subang Kelana Link anyway and its monstrous structure is hideous. How has it impacted the road there? Haven't had a chance to really see it. Unrealistic expectations is a bit laughable actually... They honestly wanted it to go to Sunway en route to USJ? That's a terrible amount of back-tracking to be done. A spur I can understand, but back-tracking is redundant. Speaking of a spur, have Prasarana ever thought of provisions for such?The problem with having a bus terminal in Subang is congestion caused by "park & ride"rs and congestion caused by double parking around the new buildings that are coming up in SS16 (with more to come) as well as the commercial properties.

Until the council can solve that problem, any public transport investment is going to be held back.

MRTfreak, what I mean is that the tram system (or bus system) should act as the core line and the feeder. Ergo:

Core line comes out from Subang Jaya KTM station passes between SS15 & SS17, SS14 & SS18. At the KESAS highway,

*One route branches eastwards towards Sunway
*One route branches westwards towards SS19 and the western part of USJ
*One route branches towards Summit and continues down along Pers. Kewajipan.

When you have a core service with branch lines that continue on, you get higher frequency core service and faster connections, plus the benefit of having a 1-seat trip if you want (provided you are willing to wait).

As for having a spur to Sunway, no Prasarana is not talking about a spur line but they are talking about a BRT system connecting Sunway to Summit (Station 07, I think) and possibly to Puchong.

Cheers, m

I think we need to forget about tram system, allurban. It seems no one in the government or prasarana interested on it. Only Melaka state government has mentioned about it. Even in the 10th Malaysia Plan, the NKRA, and the ETP, they never ever mentioned about TRAM. And also the BRT system seems to be abandoned. Correct me if I'm wrong....no one in M'sia has even taken a good enough look at a tram system so it is fair to say that they do not know what they are missing.

tram systems have a flexibility that can be approximated by buses, but the permanence and capacity that only rail can bring.

I prefer a well-planned rapid transit system. It can be based on buses, tram or "metro" but it has to be well-planned and rapid.

The sad problem in Malaysia is that we wait and wait for MRT and LRT when we could take steps to improve public transport day by day.

By the way, BRT projects are going forward. JB & Iskandar have already been proposed and accepted and are in early design stages, while the Kuching BRT proposal is awaiting RM200 million in government funding and will be looking at design soon.

Cheers, m

Dont have to go very far to see, melbourne is just 8 hrs away.Its a proven system .

TRC nominated as main contractor for Kelana Jaya LRT
By Bernama
Wednesday, 01 December 2010 19:35

KUALA LUMPUR: TRC Synergy Bhd's construction arm Trans Resources Sdn Bhd has been nominated as the main contractor for the RM950 million first phase of the Kelana Jaya Light Rail Transit line extension project.

The 9.2km extension project from Kelana Jaya Station to the Summit Shopping Centre in Subang will include construction of all guideway substructure and main structure works, foundation works for the stations and traction power sub-stations, launching and installing the segmental box girders and supplying and installing parapets and noise barriers.

The project is to be completed within 30 months, said executive chairman Datuk Seri Sufri Mohd Zin in a statement on Wednesday, Dec 1.

He said TRC's orderbook swelled to RM1.2 billion with secured project.

Over the last three years, Sufri said TRC has completed several major projects, notably the RM411 million submarine base at Sepangar Bay in Sabah, the RM401 million runway extension (Package 3 and Package 4) at Terengganu Airport and RM125 million Dang Wangi district police headquarters.

"Leveraging on our government's commitment to execute initiatives under the Economic Transformation Programme, God willing, we are confident of our prospects in securing more orders in the near future," Sufri added.

This project will positively impact the group's financial performance over the next three years, he added. — Bernama

TRC???interesting very strong cable!!!@ etc etc

Dont have to go very far to see, melbourne is just 8 hrs away.Its a proven system .

xpyhlah, baik antar derang ke curitiba:lol::lol:

Scond stage of LRT extension project estimated at RM1.7bil
By SHARIDAN M. ALI
sharidan@thestar.com.my


PETALING JAYA: Although the contract awards for the first phase (Package A) of the light rail transit (LRT) extension project have eluded the big construction players, the big boys will have another chance to bid for phase two (Package B), which is estimated to be worth about RM1.7bil, by the middle of next year.

On Nov 26, Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) awarded contracts worth RM1.7bil for Package A of the RM7bil LRT extension project involving the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines.

The main contract of Package A of the Kelana Jaya line, valued at RM950mil, was awarded to Trans Resources Corp Sdn Bhd (TRC). UEM Builders Bhd and Intria Bina Sdn Bhd jointly won the sub-contract works worth RM93.2mil.

For the Package A Ampang line extension project, Bina Puri Holdings Bhd and Tim Sekata were jointly awarded the main contract and sub-contract works worth RM634.6mil and RM67.7mil respectively.

The tender for the facilities works under Package B for both the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines would be called upon approval of the final railway scheme, which is expected by mid-2011. — AFP

RHB Research Institute said that other players could still bid for jobs under phase two of the LRT extension project.

It looks like the first phase of the LRT line extension work packages have eluded big names such as Gamuda Bhd, IJM Corp Bhd (IJM), WCT Bhd, Sunway Holdings Bhd and Malaysian Resources Corp Bhd (MRCB).

However, there is always a second chance for these pre-qualified main contractors and sub-contractors to bid for the remaining works, it said in a recent report.

The first phase of the Kelana Jaya line would be a 9.2km extension from the Kelana Jaya station to Summit. The second phase would involve a 7.8km extension from Summit to Putra Heights.

Package A of the Ampang line involves a new 7.4km stretch from the Seri Petaling station to Station No. 5, while Package B would see a 10.3km extension from Station No. 5 to Putra Heights.

According to SPNB, the tender for the facilities works under Package B for both lines would be called upon approval of the final railway scheme, which is expected by mid-2011.

We estimate that the remaining work packages are worth about RM1.7bil as well, said RHB Research.

IJM and MRCB told StarBiz that they would be participating in the tender for Package B of the LRT extension project.

Kenanga Research said there were still contracts of significant value yet to be awarded under Package A of the LRT extension project.

Based on the newsflow, Package A for the Ampang line could be valued at RM1.5bil and Kelana Jaya line at RM1.9bil. With the recent contract awards to Bina Puri and TRC, there will be projects worth another RM600mil and RM800mil respectively left to be awarded in the short term, it said in a report.

the contractor who did the MRCB's KL Sentral flyover should be considered. so beautiful and fast construction. using pre-cast concrete, this LRT extension should be done as quick as possible. at least by the next election, people can see it's moving :D

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/DSC04419.jpg

the contractor who did the MRCB's KL Sentral flyover should be considered. so beautiful and fast construction. using pre-cast concrete, this LRT extension should be done as quick as possible. at least by the next election, people can see it's moving :D

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/DSC04419.jpg

:cheers:I am ever so grateful for that flyover being there may be DBKL can put one like that at the jalan jelatek and jalan ampang junction too:lol:

Prefabricated concrete is way to go, if not it will mayhem on KL roads.

I have personally see a large segment of the new dual way South Highway in Adelaide being progressively assembled out of prefab concrete. Very minimal impact on traffic,less messy and very safe.

LRT extensions being vetted
By JADE CHAN
jade@thestar.com.my


THE Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) has already approved seven out of the 20 stations for the LRT extension projects involving the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines.

MPSJ president Datuk Adnan Md Ikshan said the council was now vetting the applications to build the LRT stations.

There are 20 stations under the two lines that fall under the MPSJ’s jurisdiction.

“The applications for 10 stations were submitted recently, while the council is awaiting three more. Some applications had to be re-submitted due to insufficient technical details.

“There are also several issues that have to be sorted out, but that is between Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (Prasarana) and the state government,” he said.

Following requests by several councillors at last month’s full board meeting for a detailed briefing and update on the LRT extension project, Adnan said the council was waiting for Prasarana to call for a meeting.

Adnan said MPSJ welcomed public tip-offs and residents to serve as the “eyes and ears” of their community.

Citing the problem of illegal rubbish dumping, he said the public could serve as “spies” to spot the offenders and provide evidence like photos.

“We are willing to offer a reward of RM500, provided the information is accurate and the perpetrator is caught. The council will keep the informants’ details a secret,

“Those caught dumping bulk or industrial waste at dumpsites meant for domestic waste will be fined RM1,000,” said Adnan.

He also advised the public to conduct their transactions directly with the council and not use runners or middlemen.

“While it is convenient to use runners who are likely to be more familiar with council procedures, various problems have cropped up.

“There have been occasions when customers were duped by the runners. Sometimes, the runners themselves do not understand the correct procedures or pass on the wrong information,” he said.

“The MPSJ has received many complaints by people being duped by runners on home renovation applications and business permits.”

Adnan said it would be best if the individuals dealt with the council or in the case of developers, to bring along their consultants for meetings and discussions.

“The MPSJ offers many options for customers to conduct their transactions or seek information,” he said.

“We have integrated counters at the MPSJ headquarters for all transactions, branch offices in Bandar Puteri Puchong and Serdang Jaya (Seri Kembangan), and two 24-hour kiosks for selected services.

“For those who don’t have the time to come to our offices, the MPSJ also has a website offering services on payments, applications, complaints, forms and guidelines and procedures,” said Adnan.

He said the public could also refer to the councillors’ offices for guidance.

The council’s drive-through counter is open in February and August only for assessment tax payments and the MPSJ’s website is available only in Bahasa Malaysia.

However, Adnan said there were plans to have the drive-through counter for settling summonses in January and for the website to be available in English soon.

But now the council is a bit.....................don't talk that :P

they promise to start in november,but now.. ohh,i forgot,this is Bolehland

^^ They also promised it will be ready by 2010, 2012. We know how things work here, so that's as good as it gets. At least they're making progress towards actually getting it up right?

they promise to start in november,but now.. ohh,i forgot,this is Bolehland

they never used the word 'promise'. they only can estimate the work based on schedule. there are so many things possibility on why the job can't be executed on time.

don't be too overreact and simply put this country's name in disgrace.

because someone say NO to the various plans and someone say SHOW ME THE MONEY first....

they promise to start in november,but now.. ohh,i forgot,this is Bolehland

how 2 start?? everybody complaint...dont build it here..here n here...malaysian r so difnt compared 2 singaporean...the singaporean want the station very near 2 their houz but the malaysian yeah want it so badly but plz build it sumwhre else huhu...:ohno::ohno:

they never used the word 'promise'. they only can estimate the work based on schedule. there are so many things possibility on why the job can't be executed on time.

don't be too overreact and simply put this country's name in disgrace.

ok,now,i'm overreacting:nuts:.. then we keep it delay la,seems everyone happy with that..

how 2 start?? everybody complaint...dont build it here..here n here...malaysian r so difnt compared 2 singaporean...the singaporean want the station very near 2 their houz but the malaysian yeah want it so badly but plz build it sumwhre else huhu...:ohno::ohno:

if they use rubber tyre like the one use in Paris,i think nobody complaint of the noise..

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/images/wiki/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Metro_Paris_rubber_wheel.jpg/300px-Metro_Paris_rubber_wheel.jpg

any update from lrt extension
IMO we must extend or make a new line each or twice a year
not build it massively
cause the people think that we can't afford it...

if they use rubber tyre like the one use in Paris,i think nobody complaint of the noise..

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/images/wiki/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Metro_Paris_rubber_wheel.jpg/300px-Metro_Paris_rubber_wheel.jpg

:lol: it looks like train in funfairs...

Was wondering, for the AG line part of the extension, did they already order additional trains. The frequency of the current services, especially on the weekends is quite terrible at 4 tph. Sometimes you even have to wait for 20 mins.

SOURCE: http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/zimmen/Article/index_html

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/zimmen/pix_middle

well, until all malaysian giv all support, this or any project cant be done on time.
so, plez...change our behavior..

MPSJ approves locations of seven LRT stations
2010/12/27
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/2lrrt/Article/

SUBANG JAYA: The Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) has approved seven new locations for the light-rail transit (LRT) stations.

MPSJ president Datuk Adnan Md Ikshan said there were plans to locate 20 LRT stations within the MPSJ jurisdiction.

He said Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) recently submitted a proposal for 10 new LRT stations and based on that seven were given an approval.

Some of the new locations that were given approval are along the Kelana Jaya link.

They are Station 5 at SS15, Station 6 at SS17, Station 8 at USJ 10, Station 9 at USJ 15 and Station 10 at USJ 21.

The newly approved stations at the Ampang link are located in Station 3 and Station 4, which will be along the Bukit Jalil-Puchong highway.

Adnan said the proposal to build an LRT depot at Kampung Seri Aman was strongly objected by residents hence the council had decided to shift the depot elsewhere.

"There will be an LRT station in Kampung Seri Aman but the depot will be somewhere else," said Adnan.

He added that the distance between each station will be about 400 metres. -- By Sheila Sri Priya

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/12/17/central/m_02lrtrout.jpg

SOURCE: http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/zimmen/Article/index_html

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/zimmen/pix_middle

Siemens interested in a lot of malaysian projects. why did't our government give them condition that Siemens has to help Malaysia develop our own rail technology? as a token we give them multi billion jobs.

Siemens interested in a lot of malaysian projects. why did't our government give them condition that Siemens has to help Malaysia develop our own rail technology? as a token we give them multi billion jobs.

The Germans are still very secretive about their technology which gives them the edge over their rivals!! No way they transfer technology completely.Even if they do the Germans will ensure they provide key components from Germany. That's how they protect their industrial base.In the end we just manufacture the low tech stuff.

We have a huge extensive manufacturing machine at our plant made by Siemens, if you use a Mitsubishi conveyor belt, the belt leave stain marks on our products .Only Siemens belts do not contaminate our products.

They are so good that even the Chinese can't copy the Maglev in Shanghai.

The Germans are still very secretive about their technology which gives them the edge over their rivals!! No way they transfer technology completely.Even if they do the Germans will ensure they provide key components from Germany. That's how they protect their industrial base.In the end we just manufacture the low tech stuff.

We have a huge extensive manufacturing machine at our plant made by Siemens, if you use a Mitsubishi conveyor belt, the belt leave stain marks on our products .Only Siemens belts do not contaminate our products.

They are so good that even the Chinese can't copy the Maglev in Shanghai.

sure they have all the rights of being protectionist. it's their effort anyway. but we need to have a win-win agreement in the long term. just like Proton, in the end, we start to develop our own technology. we just need to start it now.

sure they have all the rights of being protectionist. it's their effort anyway. but we need to have a win-win agreement in the long term. just like Proton, in the end, we start to develop our own technology. we just need to start it now.

true...we were crazy enough to instruct a malaysian company to manufacture monorail for KL and now we are exporting monorail to Mumbai.:)

Hopefully after the MRT we will see the same effect in terms of local MRT technology.

If we have our own MRT technology I bet the Arabs will go for us instead of the Chinese.Pity we don't.

true...we were crazy enough to instruct a malaysian company to manufacture monorail for KL and now we are exporting monorail to Mumbai.:)

Hopefully after the MRT we will see the same effect in terms of local MRT technology.

If we have our own MRT technology I bet the Arabs will go for us instead of the Chinese.Pity we don't.

only Mahathir can do the miracle. ;)

when three senior Singapore diplomats – Bilahari Kausikan, Peter Ho and Tommy Koh says "a lack of competent leadership is a real problem for Malaysia"

…it seems to be true :D

are they already start the work or not?

As far as I know, no. They've only awarded the contracts. Will be some time before work begins physically. At least they're on the way there.

hope thr is no delay....

Work start next month

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/62771-work-lrt-extensions-start-next-month

Finally......let's hope for the best

... If we have our own MRT technology I bet the Arabs will go for us instead of the Chinese.

when i was attached to Dubai Metro they finally had to depend on the Chinese 'tech-know-how' because it was cheaper and faster.. the malaysian company which was involved in the construction for some of the stations from Rashidiya to Jabal Ali didnt even get a chance for the other line as its cash-management was so chaotic and badly administered.

dah bungkus dah malaysian company tu pun ... for all dia orang punya 'spend gila gila for staff housing and gaji and all' still tak malu nak suruh m'sia govt to help them. boleh ke macam tu? hmm ...

^ lupa nak add.. the Chinese got the job as dia org sudi nak 'partly fund' for the projects. Dubai Metro will consist of another 2 or 3 major lines. for the record, kalau x salah, Dubai Metro got the money for the project(s) from big brother AD.

^ lupa nak add.. the Chinese got the job as dia org sudi nak 'partly fund' for the projects. Dubai Metro will consist of another 2 or 3 major lines. for the record, kalau x salah, Dubai Metro got the money for the project(s) from big brother AD.

Bro, diorang jual rolling stocks skali ke ? CSR ni tren dia boleh pakai ke ?

when i was attached to Dubai Metro they finally had to depend on the Chinese 'tech-know-how' because it was cheaper and faster.. the malaysian company which was involved in the construction for some of the stations from Rashidiya to Jabal Ali didnt even get a chance for the other line as its cash-management was so chaotic and badly administered.

dah bungkus dah malaysian company tu pun ... for all dia orang punya 'spend gila gila for staff housing and gaji and all' still tak malu nak suruh m'sia govt to help them. boleh ke macam tu? hmm ...


Nice to hear from someone who is reporting what actually goes on out there.
What is the name of the Malaysian company that was badly managed?

Bro, diorang jual rolling stocks skali ke ? CSR ni tren dia boleh pakai ke ?

sorry kalau x jelaskan dgn lebih terperinci. dari awal main con for the project adalah consortium turk-jap. penglibatan China dari segi pembinaan stations diperhebatkan lagi apabila sebilangan besar infrastructure tidak dapat disiapkan dalam masa yang ditentukan. dan kalau nak diikutkan, prestasi syarikat pembinaan dari China ni dalam usahasama membangunkan Burj Khalifa was pretty outstanding.

trains for DM dari Bombardier (which is now Alstom ada pegangan kan?).

Nice to hear from someone who is reporting what actually goes on out there.
What is the name of the Malaysian company that was badly managed?

maaf ya sebab itu hanya pandangan peribadi saya terhadap syarikat berkenaan. it was influenced dari facts and opinion that i gathered and heard from their m'sian personnel.

penempatan untuk staff di JBR saja bayaran rental apt for one unit was about AED16,500 per month. and they have several units rented there, dalam 25-30 units. ini belum termasuk rental for villas and apts di area Burj Khalifa for the top management personnel. selepas 2 1/2 tahun beroperasi di Dubai baru adanya klasifikasi gaji mengikut lulusan dan pengalaman. sebelum tu, relatives hired was paid rather handsomely.. irrespective of their experience.

apa nama syarikat tu? let me just gv u sme hints. main hq was in Kajang, which i heard was sold to an Amerian company to avoid from being muflis. dulu syarikat interior design ni ada few projects di KL/Putrajaya/Kazakhstan. banyak dapat projek melalui ahli lembaga pengarah yang ada 'strong connection' to the govt, so they said la...

apa nama syarikat tu? let me just gv u sme hints. main hq was in Kajang, which i heard was sold to an Amerian company to avoid from being muflis. dulu syarikat interior design ni ada few projects di KL/Putrajaya/Kazakhstan. banyak dapat projek melalui ahli lembaga pengarah yang ada 'strong connection' to the govt, so they said la...


the famous LCL Corp Bhd? yg dpt banyak project kat Middle East tu... tapi tiba2 nak bungkus...

maaf ya sebab itu hanya pandangan peribadi saya terhadap syarikat berkenaan. it was influenced dari facts and opinion that i gathered and heard from their m'sian personnel.

penempatan untuk staff di JBR saja bayaran rental apt for one unit was about AED16,500 per month. and they have several units rented there, dalam 25-30 units. ini belum termasuk rental for villas and apts di area Burj Khalifa for the top management personnel. selepas 2 1/2 tahun beroperasi di Dubai baru adanya klasifikasi gaji mengikut lulusan dan pengalaman. sebelum tu, relatives hired was paid rather handsomely.. irrespective of their experience.

apa nama syarikat tu? let me just gv u sme hints. main hq was in Kajang, which i heard was sold to an Amerian company to avoid from being muflis. dulu syarikat interior design ni ada few projects di KL/Putrajaya/Kazakhstan. banyak dapat projek melalui ahli lembaga pengarah yang ada 'strong connection' to the govt, so they said la...

I suspected that actually. Thanks! This kind of company is just shaming Malaysia!

the famous LCL Corp Bhd? yg dpt banyak project kat Middle East tu... tapi tiba2 nak bungkus...

tahu ye.. ha haa some frens when i was there called the co (pardon me for typing it here) Lanxxxx Chixxx Lanxxxx hmm. ada yang gaji pun x dibayar.. sian.

Residents worried about LRT impact
By CHOONG MEK ZHIN Saturday February 26, 2011
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2011/2/26/central/8141861&sec=central

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In the limelight: Residents propose that instead of building the LRT line in an
area that is filled with green and acts as a buffer zone, Prasarana should
instead build the line in the middle of the highway.

RESIDENTS of Bandar Kinrara 3 in Puchong, who were eagerly anticipating the arrival of the LRT in their area are shocked to know that the final rail alignment will see the clearing of trees in a small buffer zone separating their homes from the Bukit Jalil Highway.

Bandar Kinrara 3 pro tem committee vice-chairman Kenny Tan Jui Thong said said the residents only came to know when the surveyors placed the rail boundary markers. About 100 houses will be directly affected because their homes face the buffer zone.

“It is not only the rail alignment that will be built in the buffer zone but also the station. This will increase the number of outsiders coming into the area and we are worried for our safety,” Tan said.

He added that the residents were worried that building a station near their residential area would cause indiscriminate parking and traffic congestion.

“Noise pollution will also be a big problem if the LRT is built close to our homes,” Tan said, adding that they have approached former Puchong MP Datuk Loo Yeng Peng who has been taking part in discussions on the issue.

At a meeting with LRT developer Prasarana Bhd yesterday, the residents proposed an alternative route for the line to the company’s group managing director, Shahril Mokhtar,

“In Bandar Kinrara 2, the rail alignment follows the middle of the highway which we believe should be followed when the LRT enters Bandar Kinrara 3,” Tan said, adding that the meeting was successful because they felt their views were heard and taken into consideration.

He also said they were told Prasarana would be studying the alternative routes and its feasibility and get back to them within three to four weeks.

Committee secretary Ye Choh Wah said discussions were held two years ago regarding the LRT.

“At that point, the details were still sketchy and we assumed from maps shown to us that the rail alignment would be in the middle of the highway,” he said.

Loo said the residents were not against the building of the LRT but felt there was a better route for the rail alignment.

“The traffic congestion in the area is becoming worse and the project will help ease this problem. I hope the company will listen to the people’s views,” Loo said.

He added that the station was part of the 13 along a 17km route that would be connected to the Kelana line.

Prasarana may raise up to RM10bil to finance LRT extension
By B.K. SIDHU
bksidhu@thestar.com.my


It is to finance extension of Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines

KUALA LUMPUR: Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd plans to raise between RM5bil and RM10bil over the next five years via a bond sale to fund the light rail transit (LRT) extension.

About RM7bil is needed for the extension of the two LRT lines (Ampang Line and Kelana Jaya Line). A further RM3bil is required for infrastructure and other things like buses that provide feeder services for the integration of the urban transport system in the Klang Valley.

The first package for the LRT extension was announced in November, while the tender for the second package is under way. The tender closes in mid-April.

“We will be going to the market again after raising RM2bil in 2009. At this juncture we are still working out how much we need to raise over the next five years. It could be anything between RM5bil and RM10bil,” Prasarana group managing director Shahril Mokhtar said in an interview with StarBiz. “We are looking to raise bonds just like we did the last time.''


Shahril Mokhtar … ‘We are still working out how much we need to raise over the next five years.’ Star pic shows Shahril making a point during the interview with StarBiz

He said Prasarana decided to opt for bonds for future funding requirements owing to the good response to the earlier RM2bil bonds. However, Shahril could not say exactly when the bonds will be issued.

Prasarana is a wholly-owned unit of Minister of Finance Inc. It is the asset owner and operator of several public transport providers, namely the Ampang and Kelana Jaya lines, KL Monorail system, bus operations in the Klang Valley and Penang, as well as cable car services in Langkawi.

Shahril said Prasarana expected to receive 470 new buses by the third quarter this year to add to its pool of 1,200 buses that provide feeder service to LRT stations in the Klang Valley.

Of the 470, about 70 are shorter buses measuring eight metres in length, which are suitable for narrower roads and could be used in residential areas. A standard bus is 12m in length.

“If the shorter buses work out well in residential areas, we will order more,'' he said, adding that each bus cost between RM400,000 and RM500,000.

Asked if the Government was subsidising Prasarana's operations, Shahril said: “We are being subsidised because we receive fuel subsidy but there are quotas and limits too. For everything else we raise our own financing and that is why we need to sell bonds to raise financing.''

Turning to the two LRT extensions, he said they covered 17km each for the Kelana Jaya Line and Ampang Line.

Work on the first stretch of the rail extension will begin next month, where the Kelana Jaya Line will link the Kelana Jaya station to Glomac Business Centre through to Lembah Subang.

The 17km stretch of the Kelana Jaya Line starts from the Kelana Jaya station and connects to Subang, USJ and ends in Putra Heights. The Kelana Jaya and the Ampang line extensions will be completed in 30 and 27 months respectively. There will be 13 new stations.

In November, Prasarana appointed Trans Resources Corporation Sdn Bhd and Bina Puri Holdings Bhd-Tim Sekata JV as main contractors for the first package of the Kelana Jaya Line and Ampang Line respectively. Several others had been appointed as sub-contractors.

As of January this year, the Kelana Jaya Line's average daily ridership during peak hours jumped by 40% year-on-year to 47,714 commuters.

7bil for the LRT extension?

mahalnyer,utk 30km++ extension
kalo ktm EDT 9bil dpt 300km dah

^^Cheaper because KTM alignment no need to acquire land and if it does, the land wasn't expensive as KV...:)