Rapid KL LRT - Kota Damansara-Cheras Line [Archive]

nazrey

December 22nd, 2008, 03:27 AM

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More than one million Klang Valley residents will benefit from the much awaited new Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line. The Government had earlier said the new line and extensions should be ready by 2012. Sources said with the average construction period taking three to four years, work would have to start by the end of this year.

The 40km route covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley such as Damansara and Cheras as well as the fast growing area of Kota Damansara. It will also serve the heart of the Golden Triangle, the business and financial hub of Kuala Lumpur. Currently, the area is only served by KL Monorail, which is already suffering from overcrowding.

The new line, which sources said would cost between RM4bil and RM5bil and will be mostly elevated, will provide the much needed expansion to the current 56km, 48-station light rail transit network, especially in view of the rising fuel prices and the new emphasis on public transport. The line was announced in October 2006 by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak but little has been heard about it since then.

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar. It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya Line to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan. The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras. It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11. Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya Line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang Line at Masjid Jamek and Maluri. There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

Sources said the route was a “desktop alignment” which would form the basis for the eventual line. The number of stations has also not been finalised. The final alignment and number of stations is unlikely to vary in any major way from the “desktop” plan. As with the other lines, the new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop. Nor had announced that public transport would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance in Budget 2009 and future budgets. Sources said the Government was also currently conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

On September 2008, the Chief Executive Officer of SPNB, the asset owner of the Ampang Line and Kelana Jaya Line said that the line may be upgraded to a Mass Rapid Transit system as the line will connect two high density areas of Kuala Lumpur. The company expects a daily ridership of 500,000 in which an MRT system is more suitable than an LRT system. However, a study will be done first before any decision is made. He added that a integrated transport platform will be build with the new line in areas of Damansara or Sungai Buloh similar to the one that is currently built in Bandar Tasik Selatan station[2]. The CEO also said that the detailed design stage will begin in 2nd quarter 2009.

nazrey

December 22nd, 2008, 03:36 AM

Kota Damansara-Cheras rail line right on track
Sunday June 15, 2008 By LEONG SHEN-LI TheStar

PETALING JAYA: More than one million Klang Valley residents will benefit from the much awaited new Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line.

The Government had earlier said the new line and extensions should be ready by 2012. Sources said with the average construction period taking three to four years, work would have to start by the end of this year.

The 40km route covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley such as Damansara and Cheras as well as the fast growing area of Kota Damansara.

It will also serve the heart of the Golden Triangle, the business and financial hub of Kuala Lumpur.

Currently, the area is only served by KL Monorail, which is already suffering from overcrowding.

The new line, which sources said would cost between RM4bil and RM5bil and will be mostly elevated, will provide the much needed expansion to the current 56km, 48-station light rail transit network, especially in view of the rising fuel prices and the new emphasis on public transport.

The line was announced in October 2006 by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak but little has been heard about it since then.

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar.

It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line (formerly Putra-LRT) to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan.

The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras.

It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11.

Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang LRT line (formerly Star-LRT) at Masjid Jamek and Maluri.

There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

Sources said the route was a “desktop alignment” which would form the basis for the eventual line. The number of stations has also not been finalised.

The final alignment and number of stations is unlikely to vary in any major way from the “desktop” plan.

As with the other lines, the new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop after a briefing session with Backbenchers last Thursday.

Nor had announced that public transport would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance in Budget 2009 and future budgets.

Sources said the Government was also currently conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

Besides the new line, the Government is also trying to get extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines started.

The extensions will cover Subang Jaya, USJ, Kinrara and Puchong and meet at Putra Heights.

nazrey

December 22nd, 2008, 03:37 AM

RapidKL seeks swift decision, welcomes new rail transit line
Monday June 16, 2008 By LEE YUK PENG, TheStar

PETALING JAYA: RapidKL hopes the Government can decide fast on the new 40km Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line, which covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley.

RapidKL communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said the rail transit line would be a good way of getting people to use the public transportation service.

“Rail should be the backbone of the public transportation system. It can ferry a lot of people in a short period of time.

“Taking the light rail transit to the city will be cheaper,'' said Ebi Azly.

He said this in response to the new rail line and extensions planned to be ready by 2012.

The new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop after a briefing session with Backbenchers last Thursday.

Nor Mohamed had announced that public transportation would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance under the Budget 2009 and future Budgets.

Sources also said the Government was conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

Besides the new line, the Government is also trying to get extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines.

The extensions will cover Subang Jaya, USJ, Kinrara and Puchong and meet at Putra Heights.

Yesterday, Nor Mohamed also announced that the upcoming 2009 Budget would spell some relief for Malaysians now saddled with higher living costs with its emphasis on a more efficient public transportation system and a knowledge-based economy, among others.

“Various measures are being worked out to ensure as many Malaysians will enjoy some measure of prosperity,” he said after meeting federal Finance Ministry officials in Kota Kinabalu.

nazrey

December 22nd, 2008, 03:38 AM

New LRT lines may save billions in fuel costs
Friday September 5, 2008
By ROYCE CHEAH

KUALA LUMPUR: More than a million Klang Valley residents stand to benefit from the extension and new light rail transit lines announced in Budget 2009, a three-fold increase from current levels.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) said with the new level of public transport usage, the country could save as much as RM3bil in fuel costs.

The construction of a new 42km Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT line as well as extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines were announced as part of measures to develop public transport under the Budget.

Other measures include the purchase of more trains and buses.

The initiatives will cost a total of RM35bil.

SPNB chief executive officer, Shaipudin Shah Harun, said the first train from the 35 trains that were ordered for the Kelana Jaya LRT line would be operational by September next year.

Speaking to reporters at a special post-budget briefing yesterday, Shaipudin said all the trains, which were ordered in 2006, would be ready by 2011 while the 15km extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines would also be ready at about the same time.

“The extensions are now at the detailed design stage and we need about a year for land acquisition,” he said.

Shaipudin said the detailed design stage for the new 42km Kota Damansara-Cheras line would happen by the second quarter of next year adding that this new line would have 32 stations, five of which would be underground.

nazrey

December 22nd, 2008, 03:39 AM

Details of the Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT plan expected soon
02-12-2008: by Yong Min Wei THEEDGEDAILY

KUALA LUMPUR: The government soon will have full details of the Kota Damansara-Cheras light rail transit (LRT) project which will eventually benefit more than a million commuters in the Klang Valley.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said the 42km LRT project that would link Kota Damansara and Cheras was on the drawing board and expressed confidence that the project could take off in the near future.

“Just a few days ago, a comprehensive briefing on the project was given to me and my senior officers,” he told a press conference during his working visit at the Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd’s (KTMB) Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) depot and locomotive workshop yesterday.

According to Ong, his ministry would need some time following the comprehensive briefing to provide a host of information on the entire project that has been announced as part of the measures to develop public transport under the Budget 2009.

Under Budget 2009, RM35 bilion will be expended to improve public transportation, which among others include a new Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT line set for completion in 2014.

Asked to elaborate on the estimated cost and deadline for the project, he replied: “Be a little bit more patient... I don’t have much to tell you today.”

On a separate matter, Ong did not wish to comment on several independent non-executive directors that were reported to have tendered their resignation from the KTMB board following their protest in the appointment of the company’s new managing director.

“It is only fair that I leave it to the Ministry of Finance to comment as the appointments of directors come under their jurisdiction” he pointed out.

Nevertheless, Ong said such resignations would not affect the operations of KTMB, adding that he was satisfied with the company’s ability to tackle problems faced by commuters lately.

Earlier, Ong said following successful overhauls, there would be 36 EMUs to service the KTM Komuter train routes by March 2009 from the current 29 EMUs that were operational.

“With the increase, waiting during peak hours will be reduced to only 15 minutes,” he said.

He also stressed that of the 15 locomotives from Dalian, China that were non-operational in May this year, 13 locomotives had been repaired and now operational while the other two should be on track by month end.

Ong added that repairs to the 15 locomotives were free of charge as it was well within warranty period following their fresh delivery from the manufacturer.

nazrey

December 24th, 2008, 02:14 AM

Laluan LRT bawah tanah baru di KL
Sep 14, 2008 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Bandar raya Kuala Lumpur akan mempunyai laluan transit aliran ringan (LRT) bawah tanah baru sejauh 5.9 kilometer dari Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields ke Pasar Rakyat di Bukit Bintang.

Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB), Shaipudin Shah Harun berkata, laluan bawah tanah itu yang mempunyai lima stesen adalah sebahagian daripada projek LRT baru aliran Kota Damansara ke Cheras yang dijangka siap pada 2014.

''Berikutan jumlah penduduk yang ramai iaitu kira-kira 878,000 orang di sepanjang laluan ini, maka kita sedang mengkaji kemungkinan mengunakan tren berkapasiti lebih besar seperti diguna Transit Aliran Massa (MRT) di Singapura," jelasnya.

Beliau berkata demikian pada sidang akhbar bersama SPNB dan Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn. Bhd. (RapidKL) mengenai Bajet 2009 di sini hari ini.

Ketika membentangkan Bajet 2009 baru-baru ini, Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi mengumumkan langkah kerajaan memperuntukkan RM35 bilion dalam tempoh 2009 hingga 2014 bagi meningkatkan kecekapan pengangkutan awam khususnya LRT.

Laluan LRT bawah tanah sedia ada membabitkan aliran Kelana Jaya dari Masjid Jamek sehingga ke Ampang Park.

Menurut Shaipudin, projek laluan baru sejauh 42 kilometer dengan 32 stesen itu akan bermula pada suku kedua tahun 2009 membabitkan proses reka bentuk.

Antara laluan yang terlibat, katanya, ialah Kota Damansara, Bandar Utama, Bangsar, KL Sentral, Bukit Bintang, Bandar Tasik Selatan dan Cheras manakala stesen untuk laluan bawah tanah belum ditetapkan.

Mengenai pengumuman ketika Bajet 2009 untuk menyambung LRT aliran Ampang dan Kelana Jaya yang masing-masing sejauh 15 kilometer yang dijangka siap pada akhir 2011, beliau berkata, pihaknya telah selesai melakukan kajian tanah serta menentukan jajaran dan kini dalam proses reka bentuk landasan dan stesen.

''Projek pembinaan kedua- dua laluan ini dijangka bermula pada pertengahan tahun depan dengan aliran Kelana Jaya akan mempunyai 12 stesen termasuk Subang, Subang Jaya, USJ dan Putra Heights.

''Sambungan aliran Ampang juga turut mempunyai 12 stesen termasuk OUG, Kinrara, Puchong dan Putra Heights," jelas beliau.

Ditanya tentang perolehan 35 set tren baru bagi aliran Kelana Jaya, beliau berkata, tren itu yang sedang dibina oleh Bombardier di Sahagun, Mexico dijangka tiba di Pelabuhan Klang November ini.

''Tren baru ini akan dipasang dengan peralatan tambahan di sini termasuk penyaman udara dan menjalani beberapa siri ujian sebelum memulakan operasi yang dijangka pada September 2009," jelasnya.

Tambah beliau, dengan siapnya projek sambungan dan laluan baru itu, jumlah pengguna LRT di Lembah Klang dijangka meningkat kepada sejuta orang sehari berbanding 350,000 orang sekarang.

nazrey

December 24th, 2008, 10:46 AM

New LRT lines approved
TheStar

KUALA LUMPUR: The Transport Ministry has approved the proposed alignment for the new light rail transit (LRT) line in the Klang Valley, its minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy said.

He said the ministry has also approved the alignments for the extensions to existing LRT lines which were proposed by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB).

The proposal would be submitted to the Cabinet committee on public transport.

Chan was speaking to reporters yesterday after the launch of the Permai Central Transport Hub at Pusat Bandar Putra Permai near Seri Kembangan which is located south of here.

The Government had proposed the construction of a new LRT line between Kota Damansara and Cheras.

It had also proposed extensions to the existing Kelana Jaya (formerly Putra-LRT) Line from Kelana Jaya to USJ and the Ampang(formerly Star-LRT) Line from Sri Petaling to Bukit Jalil and Puchong.

The lines would be constructed and owned by SPNB, which is 100% owned by the Finance Ministry.

On when construction would begin, Chan said it would depend on the Cabinet committee headed by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

On the Ipoh-Padang Besar double tracking and electrification project, Chan said the Government was currently working out the cost of recently revived project.

He said this was being determined by his ministry, Finance Ministry and the Economic Planning Unit in the Prime Minister’s Department.

Chan said the ministry was also working out the cost of expanding Ipoh’s Sultan Azlan Shah Airport.

Last week, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi made the announcement that the airport would be improved and expanded for more traffic.

nazrey

January 31st, 2009, 03:52 AM

Adding value to Mutiara Damansara
Saturday January 31, 2009
By EDY SARIF

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Ghazali: About two million people come to The Curve every month.

THE development of 360 acres in Mutiara Damansara by Boustead Properties Bhd will see the addition of another jewel in March with the completion of the 26-storey Surian Tower office building.

According to its executive director Datuk Ghazali Mohd Ali, this is part of the property developer’s efforts to add value to the current development: “Of the 360 acres of development, 20 acres are allocated for corporate office projects while the other 40 acres are for retail.”

“It will be the tallest building in this area. We will also build and maintain the roads here to ensure easy access, not just for those living here, but also for visitors as well. With the help of the authorities, we have managed to control the traffic here, though there is still room for improvement,” he said at a recent media briefing.

There are several access roads to Mutiara Damansara – via Persiaran Surian from Bandar Utama, Persiaran Surian from Kota Damansara, Jalan PJU 7/1 from Damansara Perdana and via Penchala Link from Kuala Lumpur.

Sited on prime area just beside Bandar Utama and with freehold title, Mutiara Damansara properties enjoy high appreciation value especially the residential units.

For example, he pointed out, when Mutiara Damansara first launched its bungalows and semi-Ds in 2002, the selling prices were RM1.3mil and RM843,000 respectively. Last year, he says, these units were changing hands for RM2.4mil and RM1.8mil respectively.

Boustead Properties is now preparing to launch its last residential development in the area, Mutiara Damansara Surian Residency, which will be its second condominium project after the Surian Condominium. The freehold development will have about 300 units of between 900 and 2,200 sq ft.

It will have two blocks of 23 and 25 storeys each and some low-rise units, priced at about RM400 psf.

The Surian Tower building, he says, will be eco-friendly as it will tap rain water through its ground reservoir for landscaping.

“We are building a car park above to give natural ventilation. Apart from that, we are using layers of sun shading louvres for energy consumption,” he adds.

The new office building will have over 300,000 sq ft of space for rental and each floor plate offers 15,000 sq ft of space with net lettable area of 12,000 sq ft.

“Our plan is to have about 60% anchor tenants while the balance would be for smaller companies. About 50% of the space has already been taken up,” he says, adding that Nestle (M) Bhd will be one of the anchor tenants.

Work on the building, a gross development value of RM165mil, started 1½ years ago. It was sold to Lembaga Angkatan Tentera (LTAT) for RM500 psf.

“Surian Tower will provide a total of 930 car parks to add to the existing 7,000 parking bays around The Curve area. This will help ease the shortage of parking bays around this area especially during the weekends,” says Ghazali.

The Curve, Malaysia’s first lifestyle pedestrianised shopping mall, is owned and developed by Mutiara Rini Sdn Bhd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Boustead Properties.

Currently, about 98% of the space at The Curve is occupied. Even so, he says, there is a long waiting list of new tenants eager to move in.

“About two million people come to The Curve every month. Traffic is high, which is a good sign for our tenants’ businesses. Some of them are, in fact, expanding their businesses here,” he says.

The Curve has about 70 food and beverage outlets, bistros and cafés, as well as, 250 shops plus 20 office suites.

Boustead Properties also plans to build a second Royal Bintang hotel (the first is The Royal Bintang Damansara) to be located behind Cineleisure which will have about 300 rooms and a convention centre.

“We plan to build an interlink connecting The Surian Tower to the hotel and straight to The Curve shopping mall. It would be fully air-conditioned, five metres wide with some shops along the way,” he says, adding to improve connectivity, the company is also hoping to have a physical link from the proposed new LRT station beside the Surian Tower.

nazrey

August 11th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Adding value to Mutiara Damansara
Saturday January 31, 2009
By EDY SARIF

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Ghazali: About two million people come to The Curve every month.

“We plan to build an interlink connecting The Surian Tower to the hotel and straight to The Curve shopping mall. It would be fully air-conditioned, five metres wide with some shops along the way,” he says, adding to improve connectivity, the company is also hoping to have a physical link from the proposed new LRT station beside the Surian Tower.

Menara Surian
Mutiara Damansara

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Update:
by Faiza Razif art n design gallery

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nazrey

August 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM

Government Set To Improve Urban Transportation, Says Najib
Published: 2009/08/11

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 11 (Bernama) -- The government is set to further improve urban transportation here to ensure that the benefits of a fully integrated system will be enjoyed by all commuters, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said on Tuesday.

The upgrade in public transportation would include the development of a new mass transit line, running from Damansara to Cheras and from Kelana Jaya to Putra Heights, that would integrate with the existing Kuala Lumpur Sentral hub, he said.

Najib said this at the launch of the Nu Sentral retail mall which is expected to be completed by 2012, and is a part of an integrated development project at Kuala Lumpur Sentral (KL Sentral).

Nu Sentral is in a unique position as it is right at the focal point of KL city's centre of connectivity, linking it to the rest of Klang Valley via the city light rail (LRT) system and the Komuter (commuter) system and the country's largest international airport via the Express Rail Link (ERL).

Another unique accessibility feature of the Nu Sentral is its linkage to KL Sentral via a fully air-conditioned bridge and another separate bridge to link to-and-from the KL Sentral Monorail Station.

"With the completion of the new development, we will see seamless connectivity between the KTM inter-city and commuter services, the monorail, the ERL and the Kelana Jaya LRT through the station and the new integrated development," Najib said.

Nu Sentral is a 1.2 million square feet development with a gross development value (GDV) of RM1.4 billion, comprising a seven storey retail mall and 27-storey office tower.

It is part of an integrated development project within the KL Sentral covering 2.6 million square ft which includes three office towers and a boutique hotel, with total GDV amounting to RM2.14 billion.

Nu Sentral and the associated office tower development is a joint-investment between Malaysian Resources Corporation Bhd (MRCB) and Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB), a subsidiary of Yayasan Amanah Hartanah Bumiputera.

Describing Nu Sentral as potentially being three times bigger than the Mid Valley Megamall, Najib said the project would transform Brickfields, although some aspects of the area like Little India would remain.

Najib also said that the government is committed to work in partnership with the private sector to promote the real estate industry, in order to promote the local economy.

He added that good infrastructure and connectivity were the basis for economic growth in any developing country.

In February this year, the government approved a RM110 million package of additional works to improve the road infrastructure around KL Sentral and Brickfields, as part of the economic stimulus package.

"When MRCB asked for government support in terms of public work for this development, we agreed to approve RM110 million on the condition that they invest RM2 billion," Najib said.

"I am happy to note that they have invested more than RM3 billion," he added.

Located to the south of Stesen Sentral Kuala Lumpur, with direct road frontage to Jalan Stesen Sentral and Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Nu Sentral will be managed by Nu Sentral Sdn Bhd, a joint-venture development by MRCB and PHB with 51:49 equity stakes respectively.

Meanwhile, MRCB chairman Tan Sri Azlan Zainol said Nu Sentral has a ready catchment population or market of more than 150,000 daily commuters who use Stesen Sentral KL.

This is further complemented by more than 20,000 permanent workers and residents who are either currently working or residing within the KL Sentral development area, not to mention the thousands of other permanent residents in the Brickfields neighbourhood.

"By the time the mall is completed, we anticipate more than 180,000 daily commuters will utilise the combined KL Sentral station facilities," he said.

nazrey

August 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM

RM1.4b bina sistem pengangkutan awam Nu Sentral - PM
12 Ogos 2009 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 11 Ogos - Usaha kerajaan mewujudkan sistem pengangkutan awam bersepadu di bandar raya ini dijangka tercapai dengan pembinaan pusat beli-belah baru, Nu Sentral yang bersambung dengan rangkaian pengangkutan rel di Brickfields di sini.

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak berkata, pusat itu akan menyediakan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan kereta api antara bandar, komuter, monorel, Express Rail Link (ERL) dan transit aliran ringan (LRT).

"Laluan transit aliran massa (MRT) dari Damansara ke Cheras dan dari Kelana Jaya ke Putra Heights akan disepadukan dengan pusat beli-belah baru ini yang dijangka siap pada 2012," katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian ketika berucap melancarkan Nu Sentral yang akan dibangunkan oleh Malaysian Resources Corporation Berhad (MRCB) dan Pelaburan Hartanah Berhad (PHB) di sini hari ini.

Turut hadir Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop; Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin dan Pengerusi MRCB, Tan Sri Azlan Zainol.

Pembinaan pusat beli-belah tujuh tingkat yang merupakan sebahagian daripada projek pembangunan bersepadu Kuala Lumpur Sentral (KL Sentral) akan dibina bersama-sama tiga menara pejabat 27 tingkat dan sebuah hotel butik dengan kos keseluruhan RM1.4 bilion.

Ia akan disambungkan dengan Stesen KL Sentral, Stesen Monorel di Jalan Tun Sambanthan dan stesen MRT baru bagi laluan Damansara-Cheras menerusi jambatan berhawa dingin.

Menurut Najib, Nu Sentral yang tiga kali ganda lebih besar daripada Mid Valley Megamall akan mengubah imej lama Brickfields, meskipun beberapa aspek di kawasan itu seperti Little India, akan dikekalkan.

"Kita akan memastikan manfaat dari segi ekonomi dan sosial daripada pembangunan semula Brickfields ini akan dinikmati setiap masyarakat di kawasan berkenaan selaras dengan konsep 1Malaysia," katanya.

Tambah beliau, dengan adanya rangkaian pengangkutan awam bersepadu itu, ia akan menggalakkan orang ramai berjalan kaki seperti penduduk Hong Kong yang dilihatnya kurus kerana melakukan aktiviti itu setiap hari.

Dalam pada itu, kata beliau, pembangunan Nu Sentral adalah selaras dengan langkah kerajaan menyenaraikan usaha meningkatkan mutu perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam sebagai salah satu daripada enam Bidang Keberhasilan Utama Nasional (NKRA).

"Kita telah menetapkan bahawa usaha meningkatkan mutu perkhidmatan ini dijadikan sebagai sasaran yang perlu dicapai bagi tempoh jangka sederhana kerana ia penting untuk pertumbuhan ekonomi negara yang mapan," katanya.

Dalam perkembangan berkaitan, beliau berkata, kerajaan telah mengambil langkah untuk menaik taraf prasarana jalan raya di sekitar KL Sentral dan Brickfields dengan meluluskan peruntukan di bawah pakej rangsangan ekonomi sebanyak RM110 juta pada Februari lalu.

"Langkah ini selaras dengan konsep perkongsian antara kerajaan dan sektor swasta dan juga setelah pihak MRCB berjumpa dengan kita bagi memaklumkan mereka bersedia melabur RM2 bilion untuk pembangunan KL Sentral sekiranya kerajaan membantu menaik taraf infrastruktur jalan raya.

"Saya gembira kerana MRCB telah melangkaui sasaran ditetapkan dengan pelaburan baru di KL Sentral kini telah melebih RM3 bilion," katanya.

patchay

August 12th, 2009, 08:10 AM

so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?

rizalhakim

August 12th, 2009, 08:54 AM

Pengangkutan awam ditingkat

KUALA LUMPUR: Pembangunan laluan baru transit aliran ringan (LRT) dari Damansara ke Cheras dan dari Kelana jaya ke Putra Heights, Puchong, akan menyaksikan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan LRT dan komuter, untuk manfaat pengguna khususnya di ibu kota.

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak berkata, langkah itu adalah sebahagian usaha kerajaan dalam meningkatkan sistem pengangkutan awam di ibu kota bagi memastikan sistem bersepadu sepenuhnya dinikmati semua pengguna.

"Dengan siapnya pembangunan baru itu, kita akan melihat sambungan sempurna dengan LRT dan perkhidmatan komuter menerusi stesen di NU Sentral," katanya ketika merasmikan Majlis Pelancaran Pusat Beli-Belah NU Sentral, di KL Sentral, semalam.

NU Sentral dijangka siap menjelang 2012 di Brickfields dan mempunyai kedudukan unik di tengah pusat perhubungan ibu kota, yang menghubungkannya dengan keseluruhan tempat di Lembah Klang menerusi LRT dan komuter serta lapangan terbang antarabangsa terbesar negara menerusi Express Rail Link (ERL).

nazrey

August 12th, 2009, 10:05 AM

so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?

RM1.4b bina sistem pengangkutan awam Nu Sentral - PM
12 Ogos 2009 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak berkata, pusat itu akan menyediakan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan kereta api antara bandar, komuter, monorel, Express Rail Link (ERL) dan transit aliran ringan (LRT).

Ia akan disambungkan dengan Stesen KL Sentral, Stesen Monorel di Jalan Tun Sambanthan dan stesen MRT baru bagi laluan Damansara-Cheras menerusi jambatan berhawa dingin.

:cheers:

nazrey

August 12th, 2009, 10:07 AM

allurban

August 13th, 2009, 05:44 AM

so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?No, there will be no clash.

As far as I can tell, the KD Cheras line will go underground from the Jalan Maarof/Jalan Bangsar intersection (they may try to build a connection with the KJ LRT at Bangsar). It will then cross brickfield and follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan towards Jalan Sultan Suleiman.

Not sure what happens after that...but the plan will involve tunneling under Jalan Tun Sambanthan. The KL Sentral station on the KD-Cheras line will be off Jalan Tun Sambanthan at the doorstep of NU Sentral.

Cheers, m

nazrey

August 13th, 2009, 07:51 AM

No, there will be no clash.

As far as I can tell, the KD Cheras line will go underground from the Jalan Maarof/Jalan Bangsar intersection (they may try to build a connection with the KJ LRT at Bangsar). It will then cross brickfield and follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan towards Jalan Sultan Suleiman.

nampaknya mereka nak sambung ngan KL monorail di sini yang terhampir ngan KL Sentral (stesen subway tak masuk ke terminal selalu jugak) ...

allurban

August 13th, 2009, 08:31 AM

I just took a close look at the route posted to Google Earth which is supposed to be based on this map:

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Which was published in the Star

The Star report suggests that the line will follow the existing Kelana Jaya line from Bangsar through to Pasar Seni....which is reflected in the map and the posting on google earth.

It suggests that the approach will follow Jalan Bangsar

But Prasarana and the people at KL Sentral that I have talked to, plus the report about the NU Sentral...are all suggesting that the line will be along Tun Sambanthan with a station between the monorail and the existing KL Sentral railway station.

For that to happen, here is what I see:

1. The line will be elevated from Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Bangsar Routing

2. The line may travel underground through Bangsar - because of the changing topography of the hill may make tunneling cheaper.

3. Whether it is elevated or underground the line will follow Jalan Maarof towards Bangsar.

4. Look for another station at or near the Bangsar Shopping Centre (probably called Bangsar Utara)

5. There will probably be another station at Bangsar Baru

6. The line will follow Lorong Maarof and pass between the Maybank and UOA buildings.

6a. The open car park between the 2 buildings is a likely site for another station (Bangsar or Bangsar Selatan) that would integrate the two lines.

6b. The platform would probably stretch across Jalan Bangsar so there could be a second entrace on the other side of Jalan Bangsar.

6c. At this point, a KTM Komuter station at Bangsar (limited service) begins to make sense.

Brickfields Routing

1. There is an open space between Jalan Ang Seng 3 and Jalan Ang Seng 4

2. After this, there is a school field

2a. In order to pass the school field the tunnel would pass under a Hindu Kuil - possibly a source of tension if demolition is required.

3. After the school field, the line can follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan to NU Sentral/KL Sentral/Brickfields station.

By this point they should probably rename KL Sentral as Brickfields-KL Sentral...

sounds like "King's Cross - St. Pancras" :)

Cheers, m

nazrey

August 13th, 2009, 08:36 AM

I just took a close look at the route posted to Google Earth which is supposed to be based on this map:

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

3. After the school field, the line can follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan to NU Sentral/KL Sentral/Brickfields station.

WOW! interesting indeed!

allurban

August 13th, 2009, 11:12 AM

nampaknya mereka nak sambung ngan KL monorail di sini yang terhampir ngan KL Sentral (stesen subway tak masuk ke terminal selalu jugak) ...Im not sure that I understood what you mean Nazrey...my BM hasnt developed that far.

But as far as I know the MRT line will have a station along Jalan Tun Sambanthan, across the road from the KL Sentral monorail station. It will be located underground so Im guessing there will be a subway across Jalan Tun Sambanthan as well as the overhead bridge. I guess it depends on whether they can find space for it or not.

As for the rest of the Kota Damansara - Cheras line - Id really like to know the route. What has been posted on Google Earth is pretty unrealistic (it follows Jalan Raja Chulan to Jalan Bukit Bintang, then Jalan Bukit Bintang to Jalan Pudu and on to the Pasar Rakyat market)...... :nuts:

Cheers, m

nazrey

August 13th, 2009, 11:16 AM

Im not sure that I understood what you mean Nazrey...my BM hasnt developed that far.

But as far as I know the MRT line will have a station along Jalan Tun Sambanthan, across the road from the KL Sentral monorail station. It will be located underground so Im guessing there will be a subway across Jalan Tun Sambanthan as well as the overhead bridge. I guess it depends on whether they can find space for it or not.

As for the rest of the Kota Damansara - Cheras line - Id really like to know the route. What has been posted on Google Earth is pretty unrealistic (it follows Jalan Raja Chulan to Jalan Bukit Bintang, then Jalan Bukit Bintang to Jalan Pudu and on to the Pasar Rakyat market)...... :nuts:

Cheers, m

Ya..you said like this >>> 5.9 km is the distance of the undergrond wanna be! :cheers:

Laluan LRT bawah tanah baru di KL
Sep 14, 2008 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Bandar raya Kuala Lumpur akan mempunyai laluan transit aliran ringan (LRT) bawah tanah baru sejauh 5.9 kilometer dari Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields ke Pasar Rakyat di Bukit Bintang.

rizalhakim

August 13th, 2009, 11:59 AM

when the xpected completion???

patchay

August 13th, 2009, 12:46 PM

will the Kota Damansara line go along Persiaran Surian, passing by Mutiara Damansara area?

nazrey

August 13th, 2009, 12:54 PM

salemgh

August 16th, 2009, 06:12 PM

Any Google Earth draw up of the KD-Cheras line available online?

allurban

August 17th, 2009, 08:40 AM

when the xpected completion???How about focusing on the expected starting. :nuts: :lol: The project is part of the 10MP and should start by 2011 or 2012 if lucky. The reason is simple - the route still has to be approved, the design and drawings have to be done, major decisions have to be made etc. etc.

Look for about 4-5 years to complete this line depending on the length of the underground tunnel. Remember, this is an MRT length not LRTwill the Kota Damansara line go along Persiaran Surian, passing by Mutiara Damansara area?Yes that is the intended route. Also, the Kota Damansara line will be extended to Sg. Buloh (but Im not sure if it will be integrated with the KTM station).
Any Google Earth draw up of the KD-Cheras line available online?I will be posting one to the TRANSIT website soon - http://transitmy.org. Look for it today or tomorrow.

Cheers, m

salemgh

August 17th, 2009, 02:19 PM

This is my third message on SSC but I've been an avid follower of threads, especially pertaining to "mass transit" in the Klang Valley.
Even though I'm not a Malaysian (people classify me as an expat even though I hate this denomination) I feel deeply concerned about all aspects of life in Malaysia. Indeed, I love this place dearly and adamently want to see Malaysia as a whole succeed both economically and socially.

I could of, like most expats, have a car and live either in KLCC, Bangsar or Mont' Kiara. However, I vehemently refused to engage in such senseless lifestyle and wanted to be in touch with the 'real' Malaysia. I live close to General Hospital KL and use public transportation all the time, everyday, rain or shine, storm or calm, haze or clear. I am also a very frequent user of KTM (I visit my friends who live close to UPM, Serdang, Kajang or Seremban). So to a certain extent, and if I may, I share a lot of the sorrows many Malaysians have to endure when using public transportation. And still, I'm way better off than most Malaysians commuting: indeed, if things start getting too hard and depressing in KL, I can always fly back home. But I feel most sorry for the hundreds of commuters I have talked to already: this is their (your) home and are here to stay even if the transportation should one day (let's hope not) become a complete cluster of chaos.

We all know what the shortcomings in the current Monorail, LRT lines are and their horrendous 'integration'. I do not know how many times I've had to help out blind or disabled people up, down, round the numerous stairs and congestion. Even more shocking, while Malaysians are by FAR more courteous than Americans (I am American), the rudeness of Malaysians is shocking when it comes to mass transit. Where does all the generosity and patience disappear all of a sudden? I've seen so many times old veiled women, old men with their Muslim hats getting thrown and pushed around rudely. What hurts even more is that more and more people think it's normal or do not even pay attention. How many times have we all seen punk youngsters listening to their loud music through the iPod, impolitely sitting in the LRT/Monorail while pregnant women or the elderly have to stand... It hurts even more knowing that Malaysia is, to an extent, a place that values family, respect. At least much more so than Europeans and North Americans do. But again, in the LRT/Monorail I've seen the ugliest side of people out here, way uglier than back 'home'.

Allurban, you seem to be well acquainted with the works on the new MRT line: is there any word or rumor about special attention given this time to the elderly and ENFORCING such disgusting behavior: having seats CLEARLY designated to impaired people. Will there be integrated police stations in some of the new MRT stations to enforce the chaos?

A lot of people keep saying Singapore is years ahead of KL/Malaysia. I believe both are on par, but the only difference is that when Singapore has an idea, it is successfully enforces the latter.

Again, I apologize for ranting and I am in no way a 'troll', but I just shared my frustrations and hope that the future line will be a lot more friendly to the dear Malaysians who can't walk as easily as most of us can... Any country can build infrastructure, but "comprehensive" infrastructure is a whole other story...

Thanks all and forgive me if I have offended anyone... this is obviously not the intention!

allurban

August 18th, 2009, 07:22 AM

Allurban, you seem to be well acquainted with the works on the new MRT line: is there any word or rumor about special attention given this time to the elderly and ENFORCING such disgusting behavior: having seats CLEARLY designated to impaired people. Will there be integrated police stations in some of the new MRT stations to enforce the chaos?Salem, welcome to the forum and thanks for your observations. Regarding the MRT, I do not think that planning has gotten down to that level of detail yet - but I think it would be a great idea to integrate services and work on customer service programs, customer security programs and courtesy programs.

Hopefully the concept of the "Station Master" will be implemented in the new line, where all issues and concerns can be dealt with by one person, while technology can handle the more mundane tasks like ticket vending, updating Touch N Go cards, etc.

Cheers, m

Lastresorter

August 18th, 2009, 10:24 AM

Is the Dsara-Cheras line a LRT or MRT? I'm confused...

salemgh

August 18th, 2009, 11:01 AM

aniqasyranie

August 18th, 2009, 05:15 PM

what is the difference between mrt and lrt?

nazrey

August 18th, 2009, 05:29 PM

Light Rail Transit (LRT) is a form of urban rail public transportation that generally has a lower capacity and lower speed than heavy rail and metro systems (Mass Rapid Transit: MRT)

Dr Jake

August 18th, 2009, 06:44 PM

If MRT, then I'm just hoping that the front car design doesn't look flat. It's fugly. I'm so superficial.

YeahWho

August 18th, 2009, 08:22 PM

allurban

August 19th, 2009, 07:26 AM

Allurban and others,

I retraced your MRT line on Google Earth and compared it with other transit (KJ, Ampang, KL Monorail) lines.
I made a few observations and correct me if I'm wrong on each one

-Bangsar Station: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-KL Sentral/NU Sentral: KL Monorail and MRT will share NU Sentral which will have a pedestrian bridge to KL Sentral
-Pasar Seni: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-Masjid Jamek: MRT, Kelana Jaya and Ampang will all be fully integrated (potential big hub for all rail lines)
-*Pavilion MRT station integrated to Pavilion Shopping Center(?)*
-Bukit Bintang: KL Monorail and MRT will be integrated
-Imbi: KL Monorail and MRT could be partially integrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)
-Pudu: Ampang and MRT could be partially intergrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)

May you please share what you think for each speculation I made based on Google Earth?Salem, please note that it is not my design - this line was already made available on google earth and can be saved to the "my places" feature on Google Earth. Also, please note that the proposal in the Star may me different from the final design.

To look at your questions, first we need to know, what does "fully integrated" mean to you? Does it mean that the lines will share the same track and platform? Or be built on different levels?

Bangsar LRT will be close to the MRT but it will be a tight fit

KL Monorail and the MRT will both be connected to NU Sentral by a bridge. At present the design for the MRT is to be elevated through brickfields - the portal for the tunnel will be near the Brickfields YMCA ... However, according to the Prasarana MD, they would be happy to tunnel from Pusat Bandar Damansara through Bangsar and Brickfields and KL - but the cost would be much much higher.

I do not think the MRT will reach Masjid Jamek but it may come close to the south end of Pasar Seni

I expect there will be a station at Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan Sultan Ismail but I do not know if the MRT will go around Pavillion or reach Imbi and Hang Tuah as shown in the aerial photo.

Sorry I have no more info than that...

Cheers, m

allurban

August 19th, 2009, 08:34 AM

what is the difference between mrt and lrt?LRT - Light Rail Transit or Light Rapid Transit; MRT - Mass-Rail Transit

"MRT and "LRT" are terms used to describe metro-type rail transit systems in Asia.

LRT is the more flexible term, used in different ways to describe rapid transit systems. The "light" generally refers to the cost of the infrastructure, engineering, and the capacity of the system.

In the North American and European context, "LRT" is used to describe systems that are closer to tram systems, running on segregated right of way.

In the Asian context, "LRT" is used to describe a metro-type system that has lower capacity than a "MRT" system but may have similar design and engineering.

Is the Dsara-Cheras line a LRT or MRT? I'm confused...MRT and LRT are both being used to describe the line. But they are leaning towards MRT.

Right now we can say that the line is an "LRT" line being planned for 4-carriage trains, with a capacity of 32,000 passengers per direction per hour. But we also know that it is being extended to Sg. Buloh KTM station.

Without seeing the demand projections, the 4-carriage LRT is the least that we will get.

The main question is, if they go towards an "MRT" standard, will the line get bigger and will it switch to a new technology?

Since it makes sense to keep on using the existing "LRT" technology (because all the mechanics and workers are trained on "LRT" and the workshops are designed for "LRT") - the line may be built as an "LRT" with narrower cars, but with longer station platforms and space for longer trains ...

8 -carriage versions of the Kelana Jaya line?

Right now we do not know what will happen because the projections are being kept quiet.

But since the line is going to be tunnelled, the advantages of "LRT" are there.

The Kelana Jaya trains do have a slight advantage, with steerable axles (allowing tighter turns) and the ability to climb steeper grades (or so Bombardier claims) ... and the potential for integration of the "MRT" with the existing Kelana Jaya line

Cheers, m

aniqasyranie

August 19th, 2009, 03:44 PM

tq for the information :)

allurban

August 20th, 2009, 05:37 AM

tq for the information :)You are welcome

We are trying to create a repository of info about public transport on our website, at http://transitmy.org/information/ but it is a long process and we need people's help to find links and resources.

We do have a good link on Light Rail (from the north american perspective) from the International Association of Transit Professionals - UITP - http://www.uitp.org/Public-Transport/light-rail/index.cfm

Cheers, m

mrtfreak

August 21st, 2009, 11:32 AM

patchay

August 21st, 2009, 04:16 PM

Based on the maps I believe the route is as follows:

Alignment of the proposed Mass Rapid Transit between Kota Damansara and Cheras scheduled for implementation beginning 2011 to 2014:

1. Sg Buloh KTM Link (Proposed Extension)
2. Kota Damansara - Segi College
3. Persiaran Surian
4. Mutiara Damansara
5. Bandar Utama - 1U LDP
6. Taman Tun Dr Ismail - Pizza Hut/Jalan Burhanuddin Helmi
7. Sprint Highway - Phileo Damansara
8. Pusat Bandar Damansara - HelpUCollege
9. Jalan Maarof - Bukit Bandaraya Bangsar
10. Bangsar - Dataran Maybank (LRT - KJ Line)
11. Nu Sentral (LRT - KJ Line, Monorail)
12. Pasar Seni South (LRT - KJ Line)
13. Masjid Jamek (LRT - KJ Line, LRT - Ampang Line)
14. Bukit Nanas - Jalan Raja Chulan
15. Pavilion KL
16. Bukit Bintang (Monorail)
17. Jalan Pudu - Berjaya Times Square
18. Bulatan Pudu - Pudu Pasar/Police Station/Ezone Park
19. Taman Maluri/Miharja (LRT - Ampang Line)
20. Jalan Cheras Batu 4 - Stadium Badminton
21. Taman Midah Cheras Roundabout - Tesco Extra Cheras
22. Taman Segar - Cheras Leisure Mall
23. Taman Connaught - Plaza Phoenix
24. Cheras Batu 9 - Kampung Sungai Raya
25. Kampung Batu 11 - Grand Saga Toll
26. Balakong - Aeon Cheras Selatan
27. Bandar Tun Hussein Onn

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar.

It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line (formerly Putra-LRT) to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan.

The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras.

It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11.

Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang LRT line (formerly Star-LRT) at Masjid Jamek and Maluri.

There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

erwinkarim

August 22nd, 2009, 10:09 AM

It may be a better idea to have the line tunnel from PBD to the other end where the exit portal is proposed. Would you think it would be better for them to split the project into two phases, each to be commissioned separately? For example, taking Sungai Buloh to NU KL Sentral as stage 1 and NU KL Sentral to Cheras as stage 2, stage 1 could begin construction earlier and have its own team to work on the project. It could have its own theme for station designs to revolve around, meeting certain standard criteria set - for instance, location of elevators and escalators to provide disabled friendliness.

Stage 2 could also have its own team and start construction perhaps a year later, allowing the section to be commissioned a year later too. Similarly, it could have station designs revolving around a theme unique to this section. With different commissioning dates, the line might be able to be implemented quicker than if the project were undertaken at an entire stretch. Turn around facilities could be provided at key stations, especially along the underground stretch as well, should there be a service disruption that may affect the underground portion. The current KJL does not have cross-over facilities in its underground section which may impede operations if a disruption occurs at any of those 5 stations.

kelana jaya line was opened in 2 stages: kelana jaya to pasar seni in sept '98 and pasar seni to gombak in june 99'

this was the case in ampang line. it was open in stages, first ampang-sultan ismail, then chan sow line to sri petaling and finally sultan ismail to sentul.

ktm komuter was also gone the same pattern: first was kl-rawang, which later to extended to salak selatan. then it was sentul-shah alam which later extended to klang. and you would know, new stations was added (kl sentrla, kepong sentral, midvalley), rawang open up shuttle to tanjung malim, now we are waiting for rolling stock to take us to ipoh and latter butterworth.

i think they will do it in several packages, just which one opens up first. i'm placing my bets on kd-kl sentral as the development there is much more planned so resolving land issues should be faster than kl sentral-cheras route...

allurban

August 24th, 2009, 05:17 AM

It may be a better idea to have the line tunnel from PBD to the other end where the exit portal is proposed. Would you think it would be better for them to split the project into two phases, each to be commissioned separately? For example, taking Sungai Buloh to NU KL Sentral as stage 1 and NU KL Sentral to Cheras as stage 2, stage 1 could begin construction earlier and have its own team to work on the project. It could have its own theme for station designs to revolve around, meeting certain standard criteria set - for instance, location of elevators and escalators to provide disabled friendliness.

Stage 2 could also have its own team and start construction perhaps a year later, allowing the section to be commissioned a year later too. Similarly, it could have station designs revolving around a theme unique to this section. With different commissioning dates, the line might be able to be implemented quicker than if the project were undertaken at an entire stretch. Turn around facilities could be provided at key stations, especially along the underground stretch as well, should there be a service disruption that may affect the underground portion. The current KJL does not have cross-over facilities in its underground section which may impede operations if a disruption occurs at any of those 5 stations.I suggested to Prasarana that they build the line in 3 phases:

1) PBD to Maluri (the central section)
2) Eastwards extension to Cheras
3) north-west extension to Kota Damansara or Sg. Buloh

The reason is because the central section (which should be 100% tunnel) is the one that is desperately needed - it goes through the centre of KL and is going to service many vital spots.

The other sections of the line would have bus extender service - buses that would follow the proposed route of the line - to help build up demand on the route while construction of the LRT/MRT is taking place.

The Eastwards extension to Cheras comes up 2nd on the list because there are fewer available highway connections to Cheras, meaning there are fewer opportunities for feeder bus and extender bus services.

The north-west extension to Kota Damansara and Sg. Buloh comes up last because the route would travel along the Sprint Highway and through TTDI and then follow the LDP and Persiaran Surian - these roads are pretty much free flowing roads with less traffic congestion and bus extender service would be able to run frequently while construction is taking place.

In the underground section there needs to be crossovers and pocket tracks at KL Sentral and Pasar Seni and Bukit Bintang to allow for shuttle train services and to bring trains into service for the evening peak hours.

The KD segment of the line should have crossovers and pocket tracks at Pusat Bandar Damansara, 1 Utama and Sg. Buloh. Not sure about the Cheras segment tho.

Cheers, m

rizalhakim

August 24th, 2009, 07:34 AM

Kemudahan LRT khusus di Petaling Jaya

DAMANSARA PERDANA 23 Ogos - Penduduk sekitar Petaling Jaya yang selama ini sering berhadapan dengan masalah kesesakan lalu lintas boleh menarik nafas lega berikutan cadangan Datuk Bandar Petaling Jaya, Datuk Mohamad Roslan Sakiman untuk mewujudkan kemudahan Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT).

Cadangan itu dimaklumkan oleh beliau pada sidang akhbar majlis perasmian Wan's Avenue dan penyerahan kunci kepada pembeli projek Neo Damansara di sini baru-baru ini.

"Masalah kesesakan lalu lintas ini memang berlaku di mana-mana kawasan pihak berkuasa tempatan (PBT).

"Kami sekarang ini dalam langkah terakhir untuk menyelesaikan masalah kesesakan yang berlaku, malah kami juga telah melantik perunding lalu lintas untuk mengkaji masalah kesesakan lalu lintas sekitar kawasan Petaling Jaya.

"Kajian itu termasuklah di kawasan ini (Damansara) yang masih lagi kekurangan perkhidmatan kemudahan awam," katanya.

Turut hadir pada majlis pelancaran itu Pengerusi Kumpulan Emkay, Tan Sri Mustapha Kamal Abu Bakar dan Pengarah Urusan Bank Rakyat, Datuk Kamarulzaman Che Mat.

Beliau berkata, peruntukan untuk menjalankan kajian itu juga telah diberikan oleh Majlis Bandaraya Petaling Jaya (MBPJ).

Tambahnya, cadangan itu juga akan dibawa kepada perhatian Kementerian Pengangkutan untuk membuat tindakan selanjutnya.

"Masalah-masalah seperti ini sepatutnya diselesaikan bersama-sama dengan kementerian dan bukan hanya bergantung kepada PBT sahaja.

"Ini juga untuk elakkan kesesakan lalu lintas di sini dan memperbanyakkan lagi kemudahan perkhidmatan awam," ujarnya

Kata Roslan, rasionalnya cadangan beliau ialah untuk memastikan kawasan di Petaling Jaya yang kini pesat membangun mempunyai sistem pengangkutan yang paling baik.

Tambahnya lagi, pihak Emkay juga telah membuat permohonan untuk merealisasikan cadangan itu.

"Saya diberitahu Tan Sri tadi, bahawa pihaknya amat menyokong tindakan yang diambil MBPJ untuk mewujudkan kemudahan perkhidmatan awam di sini.

"Malah beliau sendiri memberitahu akan membina sendiri stesen untuk orang ramai datang ke sini dengan kos yang ditanggung oleh syarikatnya," katanya.

Sementara itu, projek Neo Damansara yang dibangunkan dalam tiga fasa melibatkan pembangunan 1,087 unit kedai, pejabat, ruang pameran, lot-lot komersial, menara pejabat dan plaza F&B.

Fasa pertama yang kini dikenali sebagai Wan's Avenue mempunyai lot komersial dengan keluasan kira-kira 430,000 kaki persegi dan ia bakal menjadi daya tarikan utama kepada pengunjung ke Neo Damansara.

rizalhakim

August 26th, 2009, 04:01 AM

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/jijm25/Article/

He was speaking to reporters after the group's annual and extraordinary general meetings in Subang Jaya yesterday.

Some projects IJM Corp is eyeing include the new permanent low-cost carrier terminal in Sepang and the light rail transit (LRT) extension works in Kuala Lumpur.

"We do a broad range of work from civil engineering works to building. You will see us participating where there are sizeable jobs," said Tan, adding that the company was bidding for works here and abroad.

Tan said tenders for both the LCCT and LRT projects have yet to be called.

"For the LCCT, the pre-qualification process has been called and we have also submitted. We will look to bid for the sizeable packages (once the tender is open)," he said.

allurban

August 26th, 2009, 09:57 AM

patchay

September 14th, 2009, 02:24 PM

BREAKING NEWS

According to NTV7 the proposed extension (KJ and SP line) will be revealed to the public for feedback starting tomorrow!!!

nazrey

September 14th, 2009, 02:36 PM

BREAKING NEWS

According to NTV7 the proposed extension (KJ and SP line) will be revealed to the public for feedback starting tomorrow!!!

Thread ni untuk new line of KD-Cheras line ...btw this is the thread/news update for extension line>>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=772140&page=4

Feedback for LRT extension sought
Published: 2009/09/14

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) will display for three months the proposed alignment for the LRT extension line project for both Kelana Jaya and Ampang beginning tomorrow.

During this period, the public may give their constructive feedback on the project by visiting the designated locations or visit the dedicated website set up for the purpose.

Its managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said the proposed Ampang Line LRT extension will begin from the Sri Petaling station, passing through Kinrara and Puchong areas before ending at Putra Heights, covering a distance of 17.7 km with 13 new stations.

The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT extension will begin from the Kelana Jaya station itself and pass through 13 new stations, including Subang Jaya and USJ, before ending at Putra Heights covering a distance of 17 km. -- Bernama

Dr Jake

September 14th, 2009, 05:12 PM

Haiyoo, next year baru ader citer pasal KDC line. Sigh.

patchay

September 14th, 2009, 05:49 PM

aiyo malu me see wrong thread

patchay

September 17th, 2009, 04:39 PM

I realise this line will pass through 3 great malls

1 Utama - Nu Sentral - Pavilion KL

nazrey

September 17th, 2009, 06:00 PM

I will surprise if this line also will pass Damansara City Project at Damansara Height ?

allurban

September 18th, 2009, 05:19 AM

I will surprise if this line also will pass Damansara City Project at Damansara Height ?Not exactly closeby but it will be within 8-10 minutes levelwalking distance ....

also they are looking at an alignment passing Bangar Shopping Centre & Bangsar Village.

So that makes 6 malls, also it will end at Plaza Phoenix (7 malls)

Cheers, m

patchay

September 18th, 2009, 05:46 AM

triple-j

September 18th, 2009, 07:15 AM

wow...can call this shopping line...

nazrey

September 18th, 2009, 07:19 AM

Ada IKEA/IKANO/Tesco..masti ada The Curve lagi lerrr!

patchay

September 18th, 2009, 08:45 AM

Ada IKEA/IKANO/Tesco..masti ada The Curve lagi lerrr!

oooops terlupa

erwinkarim

September 18th, 2009, 09:04 AM

wow...can call this shopping line...

yeah, esp for plaza phoenix. it is currently in the "hidup segan, mati tak mau" stage...

rizalhakim

September 18th, 2009, 09:12 AM

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

erwinkarim

September 18th, 2009, 01:02 PM

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

last time i've been there, there is a proton dealship. don't know about that now...

Arkdriver

September 19th, 2009, 07:12 PM

jalan kat depan plaza pheonix tu dah siap ke

Dr Jake

September 19th, 2009, 07:29 PM

Tak siap lagi. Next year kot.

Dr Jake

September 19th, 2009, 07:32 PM

PlanetNova

September 20th, 2009, 10:55 AM

thewallpart6

September 21st, 2009, 06:23 PM

Tak siap lagi. Next year kot.

I am not so optimistic though. It was almost the same as 3 years ago when I first moved to Bdr. Sg. Long.

thewallpart6

September 21st, 2009, 06:26 PM

allurban

September 22nd, 2009, 09:46 AM

I'm hoping that the name for our rapid transit will be changed to RapidKL Metro. RapidKL LRT sounds too cheap and looks Singaporean sgt sgt. This new line will utilize MRT rolling stocks. Let's generalize these LRT and MRT into Metro. Just my 2 cent thought jer.LRT was never an appropriate term - 'mini-metro' or 'light metro' is more appropriate given the design and engineering required.

However, 'Metro' is not a term that Malaysians are familiar with, and 'MRT' will be seen as copying Singapore (good & bad connotations). Whatever Rapid & Prasarana change the name to, people will still call it the "LRT"... they still call the lines "Star" and "putra" even though those names changed long ago (and will change soon).....

Subway is an underground walkway in UK English so I don't think it is appropriate for a mostly elevated system.

Probably RapidKL will adopt the MRT term for the main LRT lines and LRT for the other lines (monorails, people movers).

Also consider that the official designation has to be changed with the Department of Railways ... that means new regulations, new certificates, etc.

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 23rd, 2009, 04:10 AM

dcOhiney

September 23rd, 2009, 06:12 PM

szehoong

September 24th, 2009, 01:08 AM

- TheCURVE/IKEA/IKANO/Tesco (Mutiara Damansara)
- 1 Utama
- Bangsar Shopping Centre
- Bangsar Village
- Nu Sentral
- Pavilion KL
- Sungei Wang/Imbi/Low Yat
- Berjaya Times Square
- Cheras Leisure Mall (Taman Segar)
- Plaza Phoneix (Taman Connaught)
- Tesco Extra Cheras (Taman Midah)
- Aeon Cheras Selatan (Balakong)

why not connect to MINES Seri Kembangan area too????

its a bit too far lar.......although it make economic sense. Many along the way like those industrial park (like tanming jaya etc) have high ridership (many foreigners) :yes:

I do not consider Plaza Phoenix a shopping mall worth mentioning here as it ceases to be one a long time ago.

yeah, esp for plaza phoenix. it is currently in the "hidup segan, mati tak mau" stage...

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

last time i've been there, there is a proton dealship. don't know about that now...

Yes...the Proton dealership is still there and it is the only shop operating from the 'shopping mall'.

jalan kat depan plaza pheonix tu dah siap ke

Not yet.........give it another year or so. I think the tunnel is near completion :yes:

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 03:41 AM

It's pretty sad when they said the terminus would end somewhere in Balakong. I hope they will extend this line further to Kajang town and end up in Kajang Komuter Station in the future considering 400 000 people live in Kajang and half of them come form middle income group.

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 03:45 AM

Do we reeally need different rolling stocks for different line?

KCL will pass through a high density area. Simple rapid transit like Bombardier ART II will not be able to accomodate these numbers. :)

allurban

September 24th, 2009, 07:44 AM

KCL will pass through a high density area. Simple rapid transit like Bombardier ART II will not be able to accomodate these numbers. :) and what are those numbers? Why not an 8carriage version of the ART Mark II train?

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 08:17 AM

TBH, I've never seen ART Mark II in 8 cars configuration. 4 cars at the max. That's why Prasarana told that they're going to use the so called "MRT" rolling stocks for KCL line. I've concluded that ART Mark II are only capable at its max of 4 cars configuration set.

TWK90

September 24th, 2009, 09:24 AM

I believe the ART Mark II design do not have limit on how long it should be...

MRT is more suitable for higher number of ridership because of its width...more than 3 metres

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 10:41 AM

Then again, I really hate to use the term "MRT". We'll see next year there will be competition between rolling stock manufacturers bidding for KCL line from ALSTOM, CAF, Siemens, Bombardier, Hitachi to Rotem and many more. This gotta be an interesting story.

TWK90

September 24th, 2009, 10:57 AM

^^

Why hate the term "MRT"?

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 11:48 AM

MRT is originated from Singapore. Since ASEAN (Bangkok and Manila) started copying this term from SG why should we follow them? Generic term like Metro is a more proper way to address all types of transit. LRT??? Omg people has already been confused by this term. But thank god we have RapidKL to reduce the effect of copying, we borrowed LRT and put RapidKL at the beginning. Pretty convenient huh? So much for the originality.:)

TWK90

September 24th, 2009, 12:25 PM

As long as the rail network is properly designed, planned and meets the needs of the population, i don't bother the name...

The arguement of being "orginal" like MRT or LRT or even Metro, do not matter...

I doubt people will be confused of LRT and MRT (if it is constructed), simply because MRT capacity is larger and the difference can be easily noticed...

If you still bother the name, perhaps "Rapid Transit Line" is more proper, haha

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Nah, I just call it RapidKL Kelana Jaya/Ampang/Sri Petaling. Wow, that's so exhausing :lol:
This is the first time I've seen a full page forum without any news ad.:nuts:

Lastresorter

September 24th, 2009, 02:00 PM

LRT was never an appropriate term - 'mini-metro' or 'light metro' is more appropriate given the design and engineering required.

However, 'Metro' is not a term that Malaysians are familiar with, and 'MRT' will be seen as copying Singapore (good & bad connotations). Whatever Rapid & Prasarana change the name to, people will still call it the "LRT"... they still call the lines "Star" and "putra" even though those names changed long ago (and will change soon).....

Subway is an underground walkway in UK English so I don't think it is appropriate for a mostly elevated system.

Probably RapidKL will adopt the MRT term for the main LRT lines and LRT for the other lines (monorails, people movers).

Also consider that the official designation has to be changed with the Department of Railways ... that means new regulations, new certificates, etc.

Cheers, m

I call them "trains" ;) simple and includes all form of rail transits...

Lastresorter

September 24th, 2009, 02:05 PM

MRT is originated from Singapore. Since ASEAN (Bangkok and Manila) started copying this term from SG why should we follow them? Generic term like Metro is a more proper way to address all types of transit. LRT??? Omg people has already been confused by this term. But thank god we have RapidKL to reduce the effect of copying, we borrowed LRT and put RapidKL at the beggining. Pretty convenient huh? So much for the originality.:)

I'm thinking we can use just "trains" ;) RapidKL Tren mebbe. Metro should include buses as well, no?

Or we can copy "MTR" of HK - change it to LTR (Long-term relationship) :lol:

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 04:54 PM

LTR:lol::lol::lol:

Dr Jake

September 24th, 2009, 05:37 PM

I'm thinking we can use just "trains" ;) RapidKL Tren mebbe. Metro should include buses as well, no?

Or we can copy "MTR" of HK - change it to LTR (Long-term relationship) :lol:

Train is too general tho. We're talking about urban rapid transit:). But still, I'm so excited about this whole new extension line news.:cheers:

thewallpart6

September 24th, 2009, 07:02 PM

or lousy train ride

patchay

September 25th, 2009, 06:11 AM

allurban

September 25th, 2009, 06:29 AM

just name it RapidKL METRO like Dubai Metro. And I suggest change those Kelana Jaya Line to just Red/Blue/Green Line to simplify for foreigners and outstation Malaysians. The 2 LRT lines should be upgraded to MRT together with new KDCheras MRT line.

RapidKL METRO (3 mrt lines) ::: RapidKL Monorail ::: RapidKL Commuter (KTM Komuter) :::: KLIA Express/Transit ::: RapidKL (busses)Prasarana wants to position the "Rapid" (Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras / Rapid Integrated Transport Network) as the "brand" for urban public transport in Malaysia

(like Singapore's LTA or Paris' RER or Vancouver's TransLink or Toronto's Metrolinx ... or the greatest of them all, Transport for London)

Prasarana has taken over the strategic planning from RapidKL to allow the company to concentrate on operations ... eventually they can privatise RapidKL and keep the "rapid" brand.

So they are looking to make all of their services 'rapid' ... buses, LRT, monorail ... everything will have the rapid 'r' logo and corporate colours of red, blue & white.

You can see that they have already started painting the stations in those colours (except they replaced white with grey because it stands up to the rain & climate much better than white)

Er. but strangely enough, they repainted the KL Monorail stations in orange ... I dont know when they plan to integrate the monorail under the Rapid brand. And I dont think they will integrate the Langkawi Cable Car with the 'rapid' brand anytime soon. :nuts:

It also makes sense to integrate the Komuter service and urban buses under the 'rapid' brand ...

In the short term, 'rapid' could 'contract out' the extra bus services to the existing bus companies and komuter trains to KTMB. The bus operations would have to use the rapid blue & red colours (like London operators have to follow the London 'red bus' colours) but they could keep their own corporate logos (like the London red buses)

Cheers, m

Dr Jake

September 25th, 2009, 06:47 AM

That's why that name, RapidKL should stay:banana:. We group the so called "LRT" and future MRT into one group, METRO. As for KTM Komuter, it's a regional train, so I personally think it doesn't reflect KL urban rapid transit at all. To label LRT for Ampang line and Kelana Jaya is totally wrong. Ampang Line uses a high/medium capacity metro (ADTRANZ) and Kelana Jaya Line uses a low capacity metro (ART Mark II). :)

RapidKL Monorail
RapidKL Metro Ampang Line/line 1/blue line
RapidKL Metro Kelana Jaya Line/line 2/red line

:cheers:

lohxy

October 13th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Salem, please note that it is not my design - this line was already made available on google earth and can be saved to the "my places" feature on Google Earth. Also, please note that the proposal in the Star may me different from the final design.

To look at your questions, first we need to know, what does "fully integrated" mean to you? Does it mean that the lines will share the same track and platform? Or be built on different levels?

Bangsar LRT will be close to the MRT but it will be a tight fit

KL Monorail and the MRT will both be connected to NU Sentral by a bridge. At present the design for the MRT is to be elevated through brickfields - the portal for the tunnel will be near the Brickfields YMCA ... However, according to the Prasarana MD, they would be happy to tunnel from Pusat Bandar Damansara through Bangsar and Brickfields and KL - but the cost would be much much higher.

I do not think the MRT will reach Masjid Jamek but it may come close to the south end of Pasar Seni

I expect there will be a station at Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan Sultan Ismail but I do not know if the MRT will go around Pavillion or reach Imbi and Hang Tuah as shown in the aerial photo.

Sorry I have no more info than that...

Cheers, m
where 2 get the feature?
And the tunnel I suspect that they build under a busy way
This may occur accident like Singapore's Nicoll Highway Collapse
But I hope that the construction is safe

allurban

October 14th, 2009, 08:08 AM

where 2 get the feature?
And the tunnel I suspect that they build under a busy way
This may occur accident like Singapore's Nicoll Highway Collapse
But I hope that the construction is safebasically, open up google earth and there is a "my places" feature that is built in for you. Initially it is set to include places that you can see using google earth.

You would have to save a data file to add a new map or your own map.

Cheers, m

nazrey

October 15th, 2009, 11:55 AM

Rail Network In Klang Valley To Be Expanded
October 15, 2009 17:32 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 15 (Bernama) -- More trains will be added in the Klang Valley to meet the government's goal to raise the use of public transport from 16 per cent now to 25 per cent by 2012, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said Thursday.

The target for Penang and Johor Baharu would be set later, he said in his speech read out by his ministry's Deputy Secretary-General (Planning) Datuk Long See Wool at the national summit on ubran public transport.

"Our immediate focus is to enhance the capacity, service levels, coverage, and connectivity for all modes of public transport, with particular emphasis on elevating the role of rail as the backbone of urban public transport," he said.

Ong said that with only 19km of track per million population, rail coverage in the Klang Valley was low compared with other major cities of the world and the existing three railway systems and stage buses which handled 260,000 passenger trips in the morning rush hour were overcrowded.

"For our commuters living along the Ipoh-Rawang line, four new electric trains sets (ETS) will be introduced between December this year and March next year."

He said RM200 million had been allocated to purchase 10 sets of electric multiple units (EMU) for KTM Berhad due to increasing passenger load through the Klang Valley.

For the congested Kelana Jaya LRT line, the government planned to add 10 new trains with four cars by end of this year.

"We will continue to put into service additional four-car sets in batches until all 35 are operational by 2012. By then, our current capacity of 25 trains with 70 cars will grow to 70 trains with 210 cars," he said.

By 2012, the LRT line from Kelana Jaya would be extended to Putra Heights via Subang Jaya and the Ampang-Sri Petaling serice would be extended to Puchong and also end in Putra Heights.

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.

"The LRT line extensions and new line will increase our rail coverage in the Klang Valley to 32km per million population," Ong added.

He said the delivery taskforce on public transport would be tasked to make further improvements to the Klang Valley public transport system and would immediately focus on revamping bus services, more inter-modal hubs, rail capacity, feeder network and integrated ticketing.

Outside the Klang Valley, the electrified double tracking project from Ipoh to Padang Besar in the north, and Seremban to Gemas in the South, were being completed.

Ong said that under the national key result area (N-KRA), the project would be extended from Gemas to Johor Baharu very soon.

A Land Public Transport Commission would be set up to ensure integrated policy, planning and implementation would be carried out in a more cohesive manner, he added.

-- BERNAMA

rizalhakim

October 16th, 2009, 08:11 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/4015539875_2d1c003d5f_b.jpg

Johson

October 16th, 2009, 08:58 AM

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.

I very confuse , it is LRT or MRT line ?

tunomura

October 16th, 2009, 02:18 PM

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.

I very confuse , it is LRT or MRT line ?

^^MRT

sparrow1

October 17th, 2009, 07:36 AM

Is there a route map with the new proposed KD-C MRT line integrated with the existing rail network. Where are the interchange between lines.

Will the KD-C line be mostly underground?

lohxy

November 4th, 2009, 04:42 PM

fast fast build then we can go 1 utama and mutiara damansara by train

allurban

November 5th, 2009, 11:09 AM

Is there a route map with the new proposed KD-C MRT line integrated with the existing rail network. Where are the interchange between lines.

Will the KD-C line be mostly underground?er...sparrow did you see post #1 in this thread?

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Not sure how accurate this is at the moment though. The underground portion is planned to be from the Brickfields YMCA to Maluri.

If it were me it would be a bit different tho :)

Cheers, m

nazrey

November 5th, 2009, 11:16 AM

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Tengok sekali lagi nampaknya stesen masjid jamek akan jadi stesen integrate terbaru untuk 3 line di satu tempat!!! Hmmmm...

allurban

November 5th, 2009, 12:52 PM

Tengok sekali lagi nampaknya stesen masjid jamek akan jadi stesen integrate terbaru untuk 3 line di satu tempat!!! Hmmmm...hahahah I didnt say it was an accurate route map! :lol: But it is one of only 2 that I have seen for the KD-C line.

Cheers, m

sparrow1

November 6th, 2009, 04:45 AM

er...sparrow did you see post #1 in this thread?

Cheers, m

thks!..yeah..notice it, but just wondering if there is one similar to post#91, with the new KD-C line in it. It will be interesting to see the integration of the exisitng and new line

allurban

November 6th, 2009, 07:50 AM

thks!..yeah..notice it, but just wondering if there is one similar to post#91, with the new KD-C line in it. It will be interesting to see the integration of the exisitng and new linewell, there is the other map by Fikir Runding. Also slightly inaccurate but more like a route map.

Anyone have a copy that they can share here?

Cheers, m

sparrow1

November 6th, 2009, 09:26 AM

this is the seoul subway map..we can use as reference.

http://www.smrt.co.kr/Train/Subwaymap/Eng/Subwaymap.jsp

you can zoom in by clicking on the "zoom in" button

Dr Jake

November 6th, 2009, 09:58 AM

hahahah I didnt say it was an accurate route map! :lol: But it is one of only 2 that I have seen for the KD-C line.

Cheers, m

I don't think the underground route will pass thru masjid jamek station because from what I've been told previously the underground track will start from Brickfields and end up somewhere in BB.

Now with the completion of KDC line in 2014 the Fed should make plans for loop tracks within the core city like circle line or whatever.:cheers:

patchay

November 6th, 2009, 11:42 AM

this is the seoul subway map..we can use as reference.

http://www.smrt.co.kr/Train/Subwaymap/Eng/Subwaymap.jsp

you can zoom in by clicking on the "zoom in" button

wowww their system is HUGEEEE

allurban

November 7th, 2009, 07:50 AM

I don't think the underground route will pass thru masjid jamek station because from what I've been told previously the underground track will start from Brickfields and end up somewhere in BB.

Now with the completion of KDC line in 2014 the Fed should make plans for loop tracks within the core city like circle line or whatever.:cheers:Actually, methinks the best way would be to bring it into KL directly without going to KL Sentral/NU Sentral

option 1) along Jalan Parliamen in a tunnel...then move south under Dataran Merdeka, Dayabumi and the Central Market...I think the best place for an integrated station (LRT + KTM + new line) would be Pasar Seni/Kuala Lumpur stations.

From there, follow Jalan Raja Chulan towards Jalan Tun Razak

option 2) pass the Lake Gardens then to Jalan Sultan Ismail, travel underneath Jalan Sultan Ismail to Jalan Raja Abdullah, then down to Raja Chulan.

This would allow interchanges at Sultan Ismail station (for the LRT), Medan Tuanku station (monorail), Dang Wangi (LRT), Raja Chulan (monorail again)

Cheers, m

dengilo

November 28th, 2009, 02:50 PM

Allurban of the 2 preposed so called LRT projects for KL ,i suspect this one will take a while
to get it going ha?Are the canadians in the picture this time around?

allurban

December 4th, 2009, 09:29 AM

Allurban of the 2 preposed so called LRT projects for KL ,i suspect this one will take a while
to get it going ha?Are the canadians in the picture this time around?I think everyone is in the picture because they are planning to build it at MRT capacity.

Bombardier, ALSTOM, ROTEM, Mistubishi, Siemens, they can all try & compete

Generally methinks that Bombardier has the 'inside track' (pun intended) because they have contracts for the other LRT lines. I guess it depends on what the response is for the purchase of additional trainsets for the Ampang Line....

Cheers, m

dengilo

December 7th, 2009, 03:06 AM

I think ur right allurban besides i SPN they still owe them some money ha ha.Thanks dude

nazrey

December 28th, 2009, 05:56 AM

LRT lines bring smiles, and fears
Sunday, 27 December 2009 00:00
Source: http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/1030-cityacountry-cover-story-lrt-boost-for-real-estate.html
...

SPNB group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed has reportedly said that more details on the proposed new line to link Kota Damansara and Cheras will be revealed this month.

The Kota Damansara-Cheras line is expected to stretch about 50km, longer than the 45km that had been reported earlier. There will also be an underground portion that is said to run about 10km, but could eventually be longer.

...

khosim

December 28th, 2009, 06:52 AM

^^^^yeayy!! good news tho

pedang

December 29th, 2009, 02:54 AM

ohoho.. cant wait for this :banana:

dengilo

December 29th, 2009, 04:01 PM

The Kota Damansara-Cheras line is expected to stretch about 50km, longer than the 45km that had been reported earlier. There will also be an underground portion that is said to run about 10km, but could eventually be longer.

Wow thats trully good news by the way do we need bomb shelter like singapore
for our underground stations:lol:My only hope is that the new underground station will benefit the golden triangle,bukit bintang and somehow link to the tasik selatan terminal:cheers:

lohxy

December 31st, 2009, 10:36 AM

The train must be flexible. VERY

lohxy

December 31st, 2009, 10:37 AM

bukhrin

February 7th, 2010, 12:01 PM

If they're going to do it on an MRT scale,

can we have something like the Budapest Metro's Alstom Metropolis :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChgq0NTU20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZ2OIQLrt0

btw, it's the same train platform as the Singapore's NEL and CCL.

lohxy

February 7th, 2010, 03:56 PM

nice video!

bukhrin

February 18th, 2010, 04:06 PM

Is this project dead already ?

lohxy

February 18th, 2010, 05:55 PM

not actually dead but just no news

XNeo

February 18th, 2010, 08:30 PM

does anyone know the proposed location for kota damansara station ?.

lohxy

February 19th, 2010, 03:49 AM

I think it is close to the exit from the kota damansara toll.
About the interchange of persiaran kenaga and persiaran surian...

XNeo

February 19th, 2010, 02:25 PM

I think it is close to the exit from the kota damansara toll.
About the interchange of persiaran kenaga and persiaran surian...

oo ok.
tk for the info.

:)

dengilo

February 19th, 2010, 03:19 PM

Yes the extension of the 2 lines should go ahead but this one is more important and yet we dont hear much about it ha?

bukhrin

February 19th, 2010, 05:40 PM

My wishlist for the KD-Cheras line

- platform provision for 6 X 4-doors-cars 3 meters+ wide trainsets :p
- barrier free stations' layouts
- make up their mind about future planning
- construct spare station boxes for (future) underground interchange stations
- properly integrated with the existing lines
- make it an automated system

I can only dream, sigh.

bukhrin

February 19th, 2010, 05:42 PM

project aliciel

February 23rd, 2010, 05:55 PM

lohxy

February 23rd, 2010, 10:47 PM

But don't follow how they divide the train into many classes.

dengilo

February 24th, 2010, 05:20 AM

Everything that u ever want in the system is just south of the border!Just that we dont have to go overboard,Keep the cost down.If we half of what singapores MRT i am ok with it.

lohxy

February 24th, 2010, 12:00 PM

WE also can learn from Taipei Metro. Their over ground stations are air conditioned and full of arts...

bukhrin

February 24th, 2010, 01:14 PM

I'd rather get the functional things right first before the artsy ones.

dengilo

February 25th, 2010, 06:54 AM

There u go i 1000% agree as long as its clean and comfortable thats all that matters the most.

thewallpart6

February 26th, 2010, 12:04 PM

no homeless people sleeping around, peeing or begging for money (pasar seni)

XNeo

March 1st, 2010, 06:12 PM

From wikipedia, the LRT last station will be at Kota Damansara from bangsar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kota_Damansara-Cheras_Line

no station in mutiara damansara?

lohxy

March 1st, 2010, 10:35 PM

There are station at mutiara damansara. Pesiaran Surian is the only link to connect LDP to kota damansara easily.

XNeo

March 2nd, 2010, 02:47 AM

There are station at mutiara damansara. Pesiaran Surian is the only link to connect LDP to kota damansara easily.

thats good.
traffic towards mutiara damansara really congested during weekend or holiday.

project aliciel

March 7th, 2010, 05:33 AM

as long as artistic elements not a financial burden for commuters (that means government pay for it), it's ok for me. KL needs artwork in public. art is soul of a community, city, and state; do it when country is rich.

malaysian government is very rich. buy two laptops by RM80k. artworks in metro system means nothing to the government. give malaysian artists / interior designers / archithect chance to perform, and show the spirit and culture of malaysian both in traditional and modern arts.

nazrey

April 8th, 2010, 12:59 PM

Parliament: Government Studying Proposal To Extend LRT Line To Sungai Buloh - Ong
April 08, 2010 16:05 PM
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsgeneral.php?id=488984

KUALA LUMPUR, April 8 (Bernama) -- The government is studying proposals to extend the 43km Light Rail Transit (LRT) line between Kota Damansara and Cheras to Sungai Buloh and Kajang, the Dewan Rakyat was told on Thursday.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said the proposed extension, at the length of 3km from Kota Damansara to Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB) station in Sungai Buloh, was to provide a better integration with the northern commuter train services.

The extension from Cheras to Kajang, at the length of 9km, was to integrate the line with KTMB's commuter services in the south, he said.

"The new LRT route will also have additional line from Uptown Damansara Utama to Kelana Jaya, at the length of 4km, to overcome traffic congestion on the Damansara Puchong Highway," he said in reply to Tan Kok Wai (DAP-Cheras) during question time today.

Tan wanted to know the status of the LRT project between Kota Damansara and Sungai Long, Cheras and the progress of the Ampang and Kelana Jaya line extension project to Puchong.

Ong said the proposal for new routes under the project would involve an addition of 16km, with the length of the total project extending to 59km.

On the extension of Ampang and Kelana Jaya lines, he said, the designing works for both projects were almost completed.

"The construction is expected to start from middle of this year and takes about 36 months to complete. We have also issued the offer of contract," he said.

The existing Kelana Jaya line is from Gombak to Kelana Jaya and it would be extended to Putra Heights while the Ampang line from Sentul Timur to Sri Petaling would also be extended to Putra Heights, he added.

Replying to a supplementary question from Dr Lo' Lo' Mohamad Ghazali (PAS-Titiwangsa) on the waiting time for the commuter service, Ong said the waiting time for the Kelana Jaya line during peak hours was 2.8 minutes and would be further reduced to two minutes in October.

-- BERNAMA

XNeo

April 8th, 2010, 01:39 PM

^^
damansara needs LRT.

build fast!.

tapi LDP-penchala tol operator mesti tak senang duduk sebab ramai orang dari sg.buloh/dmnsara damai/sri damansara
akan guna LRT untuk masuk ke KL .

dengilo

April 9th, 2010, 05:26 AM

LDP can go fly kitelah!!As far as i am concern same sections of the highway is not even fit to be called a highway!!!But the sad think about the LRT is that sunyi sepi tanpa berita for a while now!

kenni-c

April 12th, 2010, 05:59 PM

patchay

April 12th, 2010, 06:16 PM

TWK90

April 12th, 2010, 06:24 PM

I doubt it is even possible to share track with KJ line.

First, different technology, especially if it is not ART Mk. 2

Second, as what you mentioned, KJ line itself is frequent, during peak hour, the interval might be 2 or 3 minutes apart.

Running parallel, one example is the Tokaido Shinkansen line running parallel with Tokaido Main Line (just as an example).

allurban

April 13th, 2010, 05:05 AM

From TheStar, it is said that the Kota Damansara-Cheras Line will run parallel to Kelana Jaya Line between Bangsar and Masjid Jamek. When they say run parallel do you think it means:

1. share THE SAME TRACK with the KJ trains (which can obviously save construction costs) but can't really see if its feasible to squeeze more KD-C trains into the less-than-5-minute headways between the KJ trains during peak hours.

2. creating new tracks that run alongside the KJ tracks, but will have a cross platform interchange to facilitate the interchange of passengers between lines.

I personally prefer option 2, but I'm quite weary of the costs involved in reshuffling alignments in existing stations and many decision-makers (read big shots with money) would rather go for "building a new station (marginally) close to the existing station and provide a pedestrian link between concourse areas (instead of between platforms)" like how we have all done in the name of "seamless interchange".

I'm getting sick of Malaysian public transport. :crazy2:Neither - it means that the train will cross over the railway tracks and LRT line and travel through a small section of housing in Brickfields. Then the line will turn and run along Jalan Tun Sambanthan in Brickfields, parallel to the existing LRT.

At least, that was the plan the last I heard.

The Bangsar station on the line will probably be located between Bangsar LRT station and the Maybank building.

I still think the line should go directly to KL via Jalan Parlimen, Pasar Seni, Jalan Pudu and eventually to Cheras

Or take the northern approach - Jalan Duta to Tititwangs through Kampung Baru, then Jalan Tun Razak to Cheras

That way, the Golden Triangle has an LRT line along each of the edges, with an expanded monorail system acting as 'people mover' in between.

Cheers, m

edwinwang

April 13th, 2010, 07:12 AM

From TheStar, it is said that the Kota Damansara-Cheras Line will run parallel to Kelana Jaya Line between Bangsar and Masjid Jamek. When they say run parallel do you think it means:

1. share THE SAME TRACK with the KJ trains (which can obviously save construction costs) but can't really see if its feasible to squeeze more KD-C trains into the less-than-5-minute headways between the KJ trains during peak hours.

2. creating new tracks that run alongside the KJ tracks, but will have a cross platform interchange to facilitate the interchange of passengers between lines.

I personally prefer option 2, but I'm quite weary of the costs involved in reshuffling alignments in existing stations and many decision-makers (read big shots with money) would rather go for "building a new station (marginally) close to the existing station and provide a pedestrian link between concourse areas (instead of between platforms)" like how we have all done in the name of "seamless interchange".

I'm getting sick of Malaysian public transport. :crazy2:

In HK MTR, each line interchange has 2 parallel stations. It is used to help commuters changing line as easy as walking across the platforms. Since there has been a study of integrating all the LRT and planning to have single tickets for multiple LRT lines, then maybe the parallel line/station might make sense.

See, if you are coming from Damansara,

Exit Bangsar station and walk across to board a train towards Kelana Jaya.
Exit KL Sentral/Nu Sentral and walk across to board monorail towards Titiwangsa.
Exit Pasar Seni and walk across to board train towards Wangsa Maju.

Such system can save from 5 - 20 minutes of commuter's time and for economic point of view, time = more productivity = money for the country.

dengilo

April 14th, 2010, 05:24 AM

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The Bangsar station on the line will probably be located between Bangsar LRT station and the Maybank building

Interesting i want to see how much higher can the guideway be!:lol:

Or take the northern approach - Jalan Duta to Tititwangs through Kampung Baru, then Jalan Tun Razak to Cheras

This could be a very interesting option because that part of town is so underserve!:)

lohxy

April 14th, 2010, 12:30 PM

If the Bangsar station is like what said, then we will have the largest underground mall in the world!!!:nuts:
New York underground has one project that to connect 5 parallel stations into one large mall. (out topic info)

mrtfreak

April 14th, 2010, 03:13 PM

wat a bad idea...

i think it shud serve new areas such as bypassing Lake Gardens area (after PJ-Damansara Heights/Bangsar/KL Sentral) to reach Masjid Jamek and then head on to Bukit Nanas/Sultan Ismail before reaching Bukit Bintang and further on...........

i failed to see a need to crashed up with the present KJ Line given the heavy volume using this line ared....
Yes and no. Yes - other areas will not be served and areas already served will not reap additional benefits.

No - additional capacity may bring relief to Kelana Jaya Line and ease congestion. However, interchanges with existing lines must be planned well for commuters to avoid choosing Kelana Jaya Line due to ease of connection at KL Sentral.

allurban

April 15th, 2010, 11:12 AM

Yes and no. Yes - other areas will not be served and areas already served will not reap additional benefits.

No - additional capacity may bring relief to Kelana Jaya Line and ease congestion. However, interchanges with existing lines must be planned well for commuters to avoid choosing Kelana Jaya Line due to ease of connection at KL Sentral.even if people use the Kelana Jaya line due to the connection with KL Sentral, the numbers at KL Sentral will always be low in comparison to numbers in the underground segment.

Unless you are going to brickfields or the new buildings near KL Sentral, or switching to another train, there is no reason to go to the station.

Id be that stations like KLCC and Masjid Jamek each carry double the volume of passengers going to KL Sentral (if we are looking at the LRT alone)

An improved and expanded monorail system (with a real connection at KL Sentral) + the Sg. Buloh - Kajang line - would do a lot for reducing pressure on the kelana Jaya line.

Cheers, m

project aliciel

April 28th, 2010, 09:03 PM

SHAH FIRDAUS

April 29th, 2010, 12:37 AM

17 qualify to bid for RM7b LRT contracts
Published: 2010/04/29

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/lrt28/pix_bottom

State-Owned public transport operator Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd said 17 applicants have qualified to bid for contracts of about RM7 billion to extend light rail transit (LRT) lines in the Klang Valley.

They include firms like Sunway Construction Sdn Bhd, IJM Construction Sdn Bhd, Muhibbah Engineering Sdn Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, MRCB Engineering Sdn Bhd as well as joint ventures such as WCT-Sinohydro, Ranhill-CCCC, UEM Builders-Intria Bina and Zabima-Leighton.

Prasarana group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said the candidates prequalified as the main contractor for "their technical and financial capacity and capability with the relevant infrastructure works experience".

Another 15 candidates were shortlisted for the subcontracting of fabrication and delivery of segmental box girder works.

Idrose said the main contractor and subcontractor will be notified officially in due course by Prasarana.
Prasarana is raising RM4 billion from bond sales to partfinance the project to extend the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines.

The extension forms part of the RM10 billion railway scheme to expand Kuala Lumpur's public transport network.

Idrose said the company was awaiting final approval on the railway scheme from the Department of Railways and would begin construction on receiving the green light.

Both extended lines are expected to be ready for use by the end of 2012.

Idrose added that 65 companies had expressed interest to be the main contractor, while another 36 are seeking to be both the main contractor and a subcontractor.

Another 17 applicants indicated their interest to qualify only as a subcontractor.

Prasarana had issued the request for prequalification on November 3 last year and closed acceptance a month later.

Idrose said that 166 applicants purchased the prequalification documents, but only 118 had made their submissions by the closing date on December 16.

AmResearch Sdn Bhd analyst Mak Hoy Ken reckoned that UEM Group, IJM and Gamuda are the leading contenders for the project, while MTD Cap Bhd potentially stands to gain from subcontracting works.

"We do not discount the possibility of local consortiums being formed for other contractors to participate at subcontractor level. This would include WCT and Loh & Loh Corp Bhd," he said in a report yesterday.

Mak said this news would be positive as well for suppliers of building materials such as Ann Joo Resources Bhd and Lion Industries Bhd, with a significant portion of steel required for extension works.

He has an "overweight" rating on the construction sector.

Read more: 17 qualify to bid for RM7b LRT contracts http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/lrt28/Article/index_html#ixzz0mR9zCts7

allurban

April 29th, 2010, 03:54 AM

still in talking phase... commence that ****ing construction NOW!!!!

how many years already? last time say the proposal will be ready in 2nd quarter of year 2009, but now? last time say it will be done in 2010, then 2012, then delay until 2014, then delay delay and delay...

tell the govt if cannot complete the project in time promised then don't give such a promise, it keep only people disappointing and disappointing again and again and end up with the rakyat impression on govt is: "tahu cakap tak tahu buat punye!" if cannot confirm can complete in 2012, just don't tell us it will be done in 2012, then say it will delay, and again, and again... MENYAMPAH betul.

in case of Batu Caves extension is ok, it just delayed not more than one year and announced its completion date delay only one time.Batu Caves delay of 1 year is not ok - as for asking Prasarana to start construction now, they havent even got a complete plan and they havent shared it with anyone yet.

The big problem is that the public does not realize that Prasarana wants to put an elevated MRT down the centre of Jalan Tun Sambanthan in Brickfields

If they knew this, there would be hell to pay.

Kota Damansara and Cheras both need LRT - but maybe for Kota Damansara they should consider building the line between Sg. Buloh and Kelana Jaya first - so the residents can take KTM or LRT into the city - while the big line is under construction.

Cheers, m

bukhrin

April 29th, 2010, 12:53 PM

I've always assumed that the Kota Damansara Line Bangsar station would be underground seeing the spaghetti junctions they have over there.

All urban,

Any idea where the tunnels would begin and end. I assume that they wont be soo cheap as to have it elevated through the city center.

mrtfreak

April 29th, 2010, 04:12 PM

allurban

April 30th, 2010, 07:58 AM

^^ If I'm not wrong, they were exploring a few options. One would be elevated to Tun Sanbanthan and then go under near the YMCA if I remember correct. Another would be to dive under before Bangsar hill and go underground all the way. Not sure where the portal will be on the other side.Yeah, those are the plans.

As far as I recall, the east portal would be somewhere around Jalan Cheras or Palan Peel

Personally, Id use Brickfields and Bangsar as an excuse to build another monorail line - start it in Brickfields at KL Sentral, then follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan and run through to Bangsar, then continue on, up and over to Titiwangsa.

Also, extend the existing monorail to MidValley and beyond to Bangsar South, Angkasapuri and Kg. Pasir like the original plan.

It would be better than having an elevated line through Bangsar and Brickfields and it would probably cost as much to build the new monorail lines as it would be to tunnel through Bangsar and Brickfields.

Cheers, m

project aliciel

April 30th, 2010, 02:36 PM

i propose go underground from the north end of Jalan Maarof to Pasar Rakyat, because Jalan Maarof is uphill from northern end to center, and downhill from center to southern end. Build elevated rail along Jalan Maarof face major problem of Jalan Maarof is too narrow for elevated rail.

Yeah, those are the plans.

As far as I recall, the east portal would be somewhere around Jalan Cheras or Palan Peel

Personally, Id use Brickfields and Bangsar as an excuse to build another monorail line - start it in Brickfields at KL Sentral, then follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan and run through to Bangsar, then continue on, up and over to Titiwangsa.

Also, extend the existing monorail to MidValley and beyond to Bangsar South, Angkasapuri and Kg. Pasir like the original plan.

It would be better than having an elevated line through Bangsar and Brickfields and it would probably cost as much to build the new monorail lines as it would be to tunnel through Bangsar and Brickfields.

Cheers, m

East portal? For me, the MRT alignment should do along Jalan Peel because of higher population concentration there. Jalan Cheras 0 - 2nd Mile is near dead, while lands between Jalan Peel and Jalan Cochrane have more PPR projects around there. Maybe 1 station in Plaza393, 10 minute walking from Warisan Citiview, and there is a bus stop to city center infront of Warisan Citiview. Most residents in Jalan Cheras 2.5 mile utilizes Maluri LRT station or the bus stop in front of the clinic.

I come from Cheras 2.5 mile.

The monorail line... I suggest follow the original plan with extension to Bandar Sunway then link to the KJL extension in USJ. This is to make PJS area have rapid transit service to KL city center.

Or perhaps rapid transit in lighter scale connects PJU to PJS via PJ City Center.

mrtfreak

May 3rd, 2010, 04:20 AM

allurban

May 3rd, 2010, 06:23 AM

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/whataprob/Rail/KLRailTransitspeculation.png

Anyone think that the Kelana Jaya - Bandar Sunway - Kinrara leg would benefit anyone? Purely speculation. Apologies on the numerous errors.yeah...TRANSIT certainly thinks so - we've been screaming at Prasarana to extend the Ampang LRT up through Petaling Jaya to Bandar Utama.

Our preference is to build a route following Jalan Universiti in PJ because alot of the old industrial lands in PJ are quickly being rezoned for commercial activity and residences - so we need reliable public transport in the area and generally, Jalan Universiti is the best choice for the PJU area.

As for the Kinrara-Sunway-Kelana Jaya connection - it is definitely necessary given the colleges in the area - plus the obvious trip generator of Sunway.

It would be better if they were to the Kelana Jaya line being extended eastwards from the proposed station at USJ7 - instead of continuing through USJ to Putra Heights.

Better to bring Kelana Jaya line eastwards to meet the Ampang line then continue down into Puchong.

Better to bring the Ampang line north to Petaling Jaya.

Cheers, m

bukhrin

May 3rd, 2010, 07:18 AM

hey that's mine from wiki. ha ha ha.

project aliciel

May 3rd, 2010, 07:47 AM

the Kelana Jaya - Bandar Sunway - Kinrara leg (I think it's branch line) benefits people along LDP but I doubt on can KJL sustain that much commuter flow from Sunway to City Center.

Perhaps we need a LRT from city center to Jalan Klang Lama, or extend the monorail to Kg. Pasir then extend to Sunway to disperse passenger flow, if not I afraid KJL will be overcrowded.

Prasarana should consider build a branch line connects Bandar Tasik Selatan to Phileo Damansara via Desa Petaling (one of neighbourhood lacks public transport system most), Happy Garden, OUG Plaza, Jalan Klang Lama, Jalan Templer KTM (should change name into PJ Old Town), PJ New Town, Ampcorp Mall (interchange with Taman Jaya), Hospital Universiti, Seksyen 13.

Monorail extension from KL Sentral to USJ via Bandar Sunway is thinkable, really. The line run nearly parellel with KTM Komuter untill PJ Old Town, and able to replace KTM Komuter in some stations like Petaling, Pantai Dalam and Angkasapuri. Petaling station is underused. SPL have too many stations, and some stations are much underused, and it do not catch more passengers but increase the travelling time from KL to Port Klang.

mrtfreak

May 3rd, 2010, 08:11 AM

hey that's mine from wiki. ha ha ha.
Sorry to use and edit without asking first. *oops* But you did a really great job with it! By far the best version of the KL rail network that I've seen available.

the Kelana Jaya - Bandar Sunway - Kinrara leg (I think it's branch line) benefits people along LDP but I doubt on can KJL sustain that much commuter flow from Sunway to City Center.

Perhaps we need a LRT from city center to Jalan Klang Lama, or extend the monorail to Kg. Pasir then extend to Sunway to disperse passenger flow, if not I afraid KJL will be overcrowded.

Prasarana should consider build a branch line connects Bandar Tasik Selatan to Phileo Damansara via Desa Petaling (one of neighbourhood lacks public transport system most), Happy Garden, OUG Plaza, Jalan Klang Lama, Jalan Templer KTM (should change name into PJ Old Town), PJ New Town, Ampcorp Mall (interchange with Taman Jaya), Hospital Universiti, Seksyen 13.

Monorail extension from KL Sentral to USJ via Bandar Sunway is thinkable, really. The line run nearly parellel with KTM Komuter untill PJ Old Town, and able to replace KTM Komuter in some stations like Petaling, Pantai Dalam and Angkasapuri. Petaling station is underused. SPL have too many stations, and some stations are much underused, and it do not catch more passengers but increase the travelling time from KL to Port Klang.
I added in the Kelana Jaya - Bandar Sunway - Kinrara section (purple line with dashes) as the latest reports of the Kota-Damansara to Cheras (or Sungei Buloh to Kajang) line indicated a branch from Damansara Uptown to Kelana Jaya. Simply extending it from Kelana Jaya to Setia Jaya, Bandar Sunway and onwards to Kinrara would offer more connectivity choices as well as serve new areas. As this line is seemingly of MRT capacity, it would be able to handle better than extending the Kelana Jaya Line which will reach capacity if it hits Sunway or USJ anyway. So this would be the lesser of the two evils I guess.

Also, it would give Sunway residents a direct one-seat-trip to KL Sentral too. Just hope that there aren't too many stations between Uptown and KL Sentral. Another benefit would be that commuters could transfer to the Sungei Buloh branch from the Kinrara one to continue northwards, possibly cutting down having to go through KL Sentral as well.

mrtfreak

May 3rd, 2010, 08:17 AM

As for the Kinrara-Sunway-Kelana Jaya connection - it is definitely necessary given the colleges in the area - plus the obvious trip generator of Sunway.

It would be better if they were to the Kelana Jaya line being extended eastwards from the proposed station at USJ7 - instead of continuing through USJ to Putra Heights.

Better to bring Kelana Jaya line eastwards to meet the Ampang line then continue down into Puchong.

Better to bring the Ampang line north to Petaling Jaya.

Cheers, m
I'm not in favour of extending the KJL much due to the fact that it has rather limited capacity. I guess a more direct route to town would be the best option for a lot of people. Paralleling major expressways would be a boon. I do like the option of not going to Putra Heights at all though. KLJ meeting the APL out of Putra Heights might be a good option. APL has the capacity, in my opinion, to cater to Puchong much more than KJL. The downside though, would be the super long journey to say Masjid Jamek where the better connections to other parts of town can be made.

allurban

May 3rd, 2010, 08:36 AM

I'm not in favour of extending the KJL much due to the fact that it has rather limited capacity. I guess a more direct route to town would be the best option for a lot of people. Paralleling major expressways would be a boon. I do like the option of not going to Putra Heights at all though. KLJ meeting the APL out of Putra Heights might be a good option. APL has the capacity, in my opinion, to cater to Puchong much more than KJL. The downside though, would be the super long journey to say Masjid Jamek where the better connections to other parts of town can be made.it's not my favourite either but it is still better than the extension to Putra Heights and having the lines meet there.

Im still holding out for a separate line from Puchong directly to the city.

In fact, the ideal solution for me would be:

Construct a line from Puchong directly to KL via Jalan Puchong & Old Klang Road - then eastwards through Taman OUG and Taman Desa and Sg Besi (remember the proposed redevelopment there) and north through to Gombak.

Extend the Ampang LRT through Petaling Jaya and Damansara

Extend the Kelana Jaya line to Subang Jaya and - 1) build a spur line to the Shah Alam stadium and 2) after Subang Jaya, Extend the Kelana Jaya line from USJ7 station through to USJ 1, then back up to the south side of Sunway and then interchange with the Puchong line

Sg. Buloh-KL-Cheras-Kajang line passing directly through KL instead of KL Sentral

KL Monorail extensions - 1) Tun Sambanthan station to MidValley & Kg. Pasir - 2) Brickfields to Bangsar, Pusat Bandar Damansara, Jalan Duta and Sentul

Other lines would be served by BRT for the moment.

So why these areas? Because KL and PJ have a lot of room to grow - especially PJ which is going to do a lot of rezoning over the next few years - so there will have to be a network of public transport reaching these post-industrial areas and other areas that have great potential for growth.

The biggest problem is that interchange at the LDP & Jalan Puchong - it is the reason why it is so tough to build a direct line unless you go through Kinrara.

Cheers, m

project aliciel

May 5th, 2010, 12:27 AM

Is extending the KJL underground stations to accomodate 8-car carriages possible?

It will be challenge for engineers, probably.

allurban

May 5th, 2010, 03:43 AM

Is extending the KJL underground stations to accomodate 8-car carriages possible?

It will be challenge for engineers, probably.I think it is possible - some of the stations will be easier than others.

Kg. Baru seems to have the largest station box - while KLCC and Masjid Jamek are pretty small

Frankly, as long as they can expand to accomodate 6-carriages, they can use 8-carriage trains allowing them to overlap the platform.

All the elevated stations may be able to be expanded but there will be challenges there as well.

Cheers, m

TWK90

May 5th, 2010, 04:04 AM

According to 9/4/2010 press release from the MoT

http://www.mot.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=696&Itemid=1

Cadangan Projek LRT baru dari Kota Damansara ke Cheras

Projek LRT baru dari Kota Damansara ke Cheras (Balakong) sepanjang 43 km sedang dalam peringkat kajian awalan dan perunding kejuruteraan telah pun dilantik. Bagi memenuhi keperluan pembangunan semasa di sekitar Lembah Klang, cadangan laluan asal tersebut sedang dikaji semula memandangkan terdapat cadangan supaya jajaran berkenaan dipanjangkan.

Cadangan skop pemanjangan laluan LRT tersebut adalah seperti berikut:
(i) dari Kota Damansara sehingga ke stesen KTM di Sungai Buloh sejauh 3 km di mana ia bertujuan menyediakan integrasi yang lebih baik dengan perkhidmatan KTM Komuter di Utara;

(ii) dari Cheras (Balakong) hingga ke Kajang sejauh 9 km bagi mengintegrasikan dengan perkhidmatan KTM Komuter di Selatan; dan

(iii) dari Uptown Damansara Utama ke Kelana Jaya sejauh 4 km bagi mengatasi masalah kesesakan lalu lintas di kawasan berkenaan.

Cadangan skop baru pemanjangan laluan LRT ini akan melibatkan pemanjangan laluan keseluruhan sejauh 59 km, iaitu pertambahan 16 km berbanding cadangan laluan asal

The line (Sungai Buloh-Kajang) is in early stage of design.

I hope the line design to serve at least 40,000 pphpd or even better, higher as the line is very long (of course, not everyone travels the whole length of the line), but considering the line includes Sungai Buloh which itself is the 6th busiest railway station in KTM Komuter system, then Damansara and Cheras which are highly populated........plus Kajang which is growing and the Kajang KTM station is the 10th busiest station in KTM Komuter network.

I think it is possible - some of the stations will be easier than others.

Kg. Baru seems to have the largest station box - while KLCC and Masjid Jamek are pretty small

Frankly, as long as they can expand to accomodate 6-carriages, they can use 8-carriage trains allowing them to overlap the platform.

All the elevated stations may be able to be expanded but there will be challenges there as well.

Cheers, m

Stations with island platform in my opinion, might be harder to expand than those with side platforms, because of the alignment of the tracks.

project aliciel

May 5th, 2010, 10:07 AM

I think they should plan for the future expandability, side platform for all. Maybe beyond 2050, we need 12-car or 16-car carriages. Development in Cheras since 1980s never stopped even until now, it keep population keep increases, high rises replaces terrace houses, new residential estates, etc. Same case with Damansara.

I think we don't want a system built for maximum usability of 30 years, but at least 100 year, right?
But I didn't mean to build platform able to accomodate 12-car or 16-car carriages now, but make space for future extension, maybe we need extension in 2030, or 2040, or 2050... who knows?

sparrow1

May 5th, 2010, 10:44 AM

perhaps having an 8-car train every 1 minute is better than having a 16-car train every 2 minutes. In term of cost, it will be half as the platform length is shorter. Just thought what is the minimum allowable interval between trains arrival before it become unpractical and having risk of collusion.

bukhrin

May 5th, 2010, 11:05 AM

with the 2-car trains, the smallest headway was around 60 seconds or was it 40. Not sure about the 4-cars. But i think would be the same if the signalling block remains unchanged.

TWK90

May 5th, 2010, 11:30 AM

16-car? Unnecessary...

If they can run 8 cars with 90 seconds headway....should be good.

Looking at 8 car train...if they stick with using ART (or Innovia as they call it)...

4 car ART MK II = 800 people

If 8 car ART MK II (assuming it is MK II) = 1600 people

Singapore MRT, Siemens set......6 cars and 1920 passengers on one set.

daeng_jal

May 5th, 2010, 11:34 AM

Is extending the KJL underground stations to accomodate 8-car carriages possible?

It will be challenge for engineers, probably.

i read somewhere in the international forum that some city,when they expended their metro carriages,they dont expend the station length..like in a 8 car carriages, only 4 in the middle open up it door underground..

ok aper, cheap to implement...

allurban

May 5th, 2010, 12:12 PM

According to 9/4/2010 press release from the MoT

http://www.mot.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=696&Itemid=1

The line (Sungai Buloh-Kajang) is in early stage of design.

I hope the line design to serve at least 40,000 pphpd or even better, higher as the line is very long (of course, not everyone travels the whole length of the line), but considering the line includes Sungai Buloh which itself is the 6th busiest railway station in KTM Komuter system, then Damansara and Cheras which are highly populated........plus Kajang which is growing and the Kajang KTM station is the 10th busiest station in KTM Komuter network.

Stations with island platform in my opinion, might be harder to expand than those with side platforms, because of the alignment of the tracks.One of the problems that we have is that Prasarana does not seem to put more effort into using pphpd as their measure of capacity - instead they keep on using 'passengers per day' as their guideline.

We are also seeing a modification of the 'trains per hour' measurement - by saying that they are trying to increase the frequency to 2 minutes per train.

Max capacity should be measured by pphpd and tph.

Agreed with you on the concern over expanding stations with centre platform.

Cheers, m

forrestcat

May 5th, 2010, 03:12 PM

Well,if we are desperate for longer trains in the KJ line maybe they could just extend the elevated and graded stations and have the the four cars in the middle of the the 8 car trains to stop at the underground stations like KLCC so people going to KLCC or the underground stations should board the four cars.

Is this even possible? I aknow for sure it is unsafe since it'd be difficult for the evacuation of passengers undergrounf but in Bolehland maybe can...tho I dun recommend it...

Another option is express four car trains trains going to KLCC and the underground stations while 8 car trains skip the undergorund stations.

bukhrin

May 5th, 2010, 05:49 PM

project aliciel

May 5th, 2010, 09:11 PM

allurban

May 6th, 2010, 04:34 AM

The proper solution is to have as many radial lines covering the city center and circle lines/connection spurs to distribute the loads evenly between the lines.

The underlying problem right now, instead of being just a suburb to city center rapid transit line (as it was designed and built), the KJ line has become a mainline of some sort serving people as far away as Shah Alam and as north as KD (and in the nightmarish future SJ and Puchong).

This mainline function is the responsibility of KTM Komuter, which they have so spectacularly failed at.

My take is Prasarana or SPAD should include KTM as part of the integrated solutions (not like some ugly duckling stepdaughter they're doing right now). If KTM have enough trains to run at a comparable frequency and speed to the LRT, wouldn't the people of SJ take the Komuter instead of continuing all the way north? Any alternative routes going toward the city center would surely then take off the load from the LRT systems.

And as for lengthening the platforms etc, I think the cost of those engineering works itself could cover much for the improvement of Komuter services.

So unless the KTM problem is solved and more lines are built, no matter how many LRT trains or how long they are one day the system will no doubt burst at the seam.I agree with you on this - frankly, KTM needs to be restructured and made more efficient and one way to do it would be to have Prasarana invest in KTM instead of treating them as competition.

Dr. Aminuddin is already restructuring KTM - the 4 divisions (Intercity, Freight, Komuter and ETS) are being restructured and converted to subsidiaries - Komuter & ETS are already Sdn. Bhds. and I think that they will follow suit with KTM Antarabandar Sdn. Bhd. KTM Freight, Maintenance, Rail, etc.

I told the government long ago (in 2006) that KTM Komuter needed at least 60 units of 6-carriage EMUs or 120 units of 3-carriage EMUs and they should be aiming for 7.5 minute daytime frequencies - and 5 minute morning peak frequencies

To do that they need to improve on the track and expand to 3-track segments in some areas, as well as shift freight trains out of KL by building the Batu Gajah-Port Klang-Alor Gajah bypass, and invest in flyovers and improve the management of track warrants.

So far the government is 'planning' to buy 38 units of the 6-carriage trains - and they are probably going to overpay for those EMUs.

Cheers, m

allurban

May 6th, 2010, 04:37 AM

KCL extending southwards from Balakong to Kajang is a good proposal.

How about propose a branch line serves Taman Suntex, Taman Mudun, Cheras Mahkota, Bandar Sungai Long? Under current proposal, KCL only serves residential parks west side of Jalan Cheras - Cheras Kajang Expressway at 5.5 - 9th mile. Which the east side of Jalan Cheras is not served by MRT, and these residential areas contributes quite large percentage of Cheras population, and have large growth potential, especially Cheras Mahkota.Why not? In fact, why not have meter-gauge trams (high or low-floor) and allow interlining - pick you up outside your housing estate, take you directly to the nearest station on the KTM line and then you switch to a larger train for a fast journey into the city.

This could have easily been done in Subang Jaya, Batu Tiga or Shah Alam (as examples) - Subang Jaya has a long extended platform, Shah Alam has 3 platforms with room for a 4th, and Batu Tiga has space for another platform as well.

If you have seen the Selangor Structural Plan, they planned a huge number of "rapid transit" lines branching off the KTM system.

Of course, we would have to change the Road Transport Act to allow trams on our roads again.

Cheers, m

TWK90

May 6th, 2010, 06:40 AM

KTM Komuter operation hour : 17 hours a day.

7.5 minutes per train = 8 trains per hour.

17 x 8 = 136 trains per day.

According to this

http://www.mmc.com.my/content.asp?menuid=100041&rootid=100003&MediaId=199

The double-tracking is crucial to KTMB as it will increase the track capacity by five to 10 times, from the current 25 trains per day, depending on the type of trains.

That means double tracking can allow up to 250 trains a day. Of course in my opinion, signalling has to be modified for such operation.

250 - 136 (commuter trains in 7.5 minutes per train on a day of 17 hours of operation)

You get 114 train journeys left on that day.

allurban

May 7th, 2010, 05:43 AM

KTM Komuter operation hour : 17 hours a day.

7.5 minutes per train = 8 trains per hour.

17 x 8 = 136 trains per day.

According to this

http://www.mmc.com.my/content.asp?menuid=100041&rootid=100003&MediaId=199

That means double tracking can allow up to 250 trains a day. Of course in my opinion, signalling has to be modified for such operation.

250 - 136 (commuter trains in 7.5 minutes per train on a day of 17 hours of operation)

You get 114 train journeys left on that day.Good math...I wish more people would do the math for public transport planning.

Now, factor in the presence of freight trains and ETS trains on the Butterworth-KL-Seremban corridor, as well as intercity trains along the whole western line...and you can see why we need the bypass.

Cheers, m

bukhrin

May 28th, 2010, 06:12 AM

With the ballooning national debt (yes it's scary) I assume that this project is as good as dead yes ? Or will the government somehow see the light and expedite the construction of this line in anticipation of the effects from the gradual abolishments of the fuel subsidies.

TWK90

May 28th, 2010, 06:22 AM

^^

I don't know, because i saw this.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/Nissan_FUGA/DSC02313-1.jpg

Government to continue subsidising Grand Saga until completion of LRT extension.

That means, maybe the LRT line will go on.

bukhrin

May 28th, 2010, 06:52 AM

Ha ha, LRT extension or LRT new line, haiyoo that is so vague. So it's not in these people business/political interests to have the LRT built in the first place then.

mrtfreak

May 28th, 2010, 12:41 PM

^^ Couldn't it mean extension of the LRT (network)?

musang

May 29th, 2010, 01:37 AM

[QUOTE=bukhrin;57654601]With the ballooning national debt (yes it's scary) QUOTE]

didnt know that.. was it mentioned lately in the news? whats the figure like if u dont mind posting it here...

forrestcat

May 29th, 2010, 02:11 AM

[QUOTE=bukhrin;57654601]With the ballooning national debt (yes it's scary) QUOTE]

didnt know that.. was it mentioned lately in the news? whats the figure like if u dont mind posting it here...

Its RM$360 billion. Thailand and Indonesia have higher debts than us.You can check this on Bank Negara Malaysia's website.

musang

May 29th, 2010, 10:42 PM

^ thx for the info.. will check that later.

allurban

May 31st, 2010, 07:40 AM

Government to continue subsidising LDP until a free alternative road is builtThe government should take over the LDP between the two Petaling Jaya toll plazas, as well as the Kesas highway between the LDP to the MRRII.

That way, the entire MRRII corridor + sections of LDP & KESAS will be free. As for the southern section outside of Puchong, that can be kept under toll.

Cheers, m

dengilo

May 31st, 2010, 04:40 PM

Only then it can be called the MRR2!!!By the way any news on the preposed Outer ring road?

bukhrin

May 31st, 2010, 05:26 PM

The government should take over the LDP between the two Petaling Jaya toll plazas, as well as the Kesas highway between the LDP to the MRRII.

That way, the entire MRRII corridor + sections of LDP & KESAS will be free. As for the southern section outside of Puchong, that can be kept under toll.

Cheers, m

I don't think they would willingly slaughter the cashcows.

allurban

June 1st, 2010, 04:43 AM

I don't think they would willingly slaughter the cashcows.hahahha I'm not sure how far this government will go in any case.

Despite the criticism, 1PM is going further than any other PM with his 1Malaysia & NKRA.

So perhaps it might happen. After all, we are talking about 3 toll plazas to be closed...that's not too much, is it? The companies will get compensation and still be able to collect tolls in the other areas.

A free & complete MRRII will probably make the outer ring road totally unnecessary.

Cheers, m

project aliciel

June 2nd, 2010, 06:29 PM

outer ring road? sounds cool, but not pragmatic.

I wonder why highways in capital region is managed by one single company.

bukhrin

June 4th, 2010, 05:57 PM

allurban

June 5th, 2010, 04:48 AM

The outer ring road (MRR3) is an eco-crime waiting to happen. Bulldozing the Ampang forest reserves and destabilizing the Titiwangsa Quartz Ridge ? That's too much!

I hope these stupid greedy politicians and their contracting cronies realize that KL is not built in the middle of the prairies. We're already encroaching too far into the Titiwangsa, and pretending that those big mountains to the east are not there are just plain arrogant.

He he, I'm soo off topic now.Off topic doesnt mean that you are wrong.

That's why people need to debate - so that the public knows there are better alternatives than building more roads.

Even MRT/LRT construction has a limit. I wouldnt support an Outer Ring Rail line either...we dont even have an inner ring rail line (and we dont really need one) and the KL-PJ ring line is only a ring because there needs to be connections between Kepong & PJ and Kinrara & PJ

Ring roads are designed to divert traffic...having a 'ring rail' line is only effective if it is made up of short, busy segments (KL-Sentul, PJ Old Town - Bandar Utama, etc) that can be connected.

Cheers, m

dengilo

June 5th, 2010, 07:04 AM

Unless the relevant govn agencies do something about the traffic may it be improving the public transportation,reducing number of cars on the road etc etc now, the traffic situation along the present MRR2 during peak hours is a disaster!!!Just to travel a mere 1 km from Flamingo hotel to the DUKE highway can take 40 mins.Not to mention the stupid pandan indah section the 3-2-1 concept it unheard of,Its no different the section in front of flamingo hotel u have 2 lanes from ampang plus another 2 from the elevated highway merging onto the slow lane of the MRR2.Off course building MRR3 will not solve the problem.Geram big time lah.After all this where is this preposed new LRT line going still no news!!!!!!

bukhrin

June 5th, 2010, 07:37 AM

He he, maybe you can ask them to build a spur line from Ampang Park all the way through Jalan Ampang to meet up at the Ampang station and all the way to Lembah Jaya. LOL.

The fact is, amidst all the talk talk talk (if you want to call "new old talks" pun boleh), there is relatively nothing that has been done to improve the overall situation. Buying new trains is nothing much to shout about that's just making existing line efficient, but the overall PT still is not that effective. What about those other places in KL where the PT sucks ? Bengkel this bengkel that (so that the Dato's and Datins can enjoy their publicly funded 4 ringgit karipap) and you know at the end of the day it is still talk talk talk. LOL.

Syed Hamid is to set be at the helm of SPAD now, I wonder if he will hit the ground running or will he also just talk talk talk.

dengilo

June 5th, 2010, 05:12 PM

What next ? They going give him Tunship?When i found out he is the last person in mind for that position!!!!More hot air and lip service and at the end nothing!Well lets sell more protons,build more new highways screw the us all big time!Do they care !There is a sucker
born every second under the one malaysia for him agenda.There u go i lepas geram if not tomorrow i go tg rambutan myself.

bukhrin

June 5th, 2010, 05:26 PM

he he, chill broooooooooo.

dengilo

June 8th, 2010, 12:49 AM

patchay

June 8th, 2010, 02:14 AM

KL is mulling a MRT line, and as such all future LRT plans will have to be reconsidered.

KL to have MRT system, say sources
By Au Foong Yee
Monday, 07 June 2010 12:06
http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/3529-kl-to-have-mrt-system-say-sources.html

The city’s infrastructure, a subject of increasing criticism, is likely to be boosted by a new mass rapid transit (MRT) system that could be put into place soon to complement the role of the monorail and LRT systems.

Sources said the government was in the final stage of considering the MRT project, believed to be planned for within the confines of the city which was experiencing growing traffic congestion.

The names of at least two industry players have been bandied about for the MRT project — Gamuda Bhd and MMC Corporation Bhd.

Sources said the two were being considered to jointly undertake the MRT job, or a section of it, due to their expertise and track record for the design and construction of the multiple awards-winning SMART Tunnel.

Lending credence to the possibility of a new MRT system for KL is that at least one developer in KL city, sources said, had been told to redesign its upcoming billion ringgit mixed-development project to incorporate an MRT station.

Meanwhile, it is not immediately known if the earlier proposed extensions to the LRT lines would unfold as intended. :ohno:

The KL monorail has been designed to complement and interface with KL’s existing and planned urban transportation systems. The LRT, meanwhile, radiates into the suburbs.

Introducing an MRT would not only alleviate KL’s traffic congestion, rendering the city attractive to work and live in, but also enhances real estate values in areas that will stand to benefit, both directly and indirectly.

LRT, MRT, what’s next? Bullet Train?
By OSK Research
Monday, 07 June 2010 12:08

THE BUZZ
The Edge reported today that Kuala Lumpur could have its own Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) system, which would serve to complement the monorail and Light Rail Transit (LRT). Sources claimed that the Govt is in the final stages of evaluating the project. At least 2 industry players have been indentified for the job, namely Gamuda and MMC Corp.

OUR TAKE
Less talk and more action, please. We find this piece of news rather surprising considering that the much talked about RM7bn LRT extension has yet to kick off. How is the proposed MRT going to complement the LRT when plans for its extension have yet to be finalized? For example, we understand that the Ampang line’s alignment may be altered as some “well connected” developers have been lobbying for the route to pass through their developments.

Also, the proposed new Kota D’sara-Cheras line, which is supposedly to pass through Kuala Lumpur city centre, has not even been concluded. We do not expect the proposed MRT job to kick off anytime soon, if at all.

The “what if” question. Should the proposed MRT be implemented, we think that it is likely to be an underground circle line within Kuala Lumpur city centre. The existing LRT lines will serve as feeders into the circle line. Players such as Gamuda and MMC stand a good participating chance here if this proposal is implemented. Recall that the Gamuda-MMC JV constructed the underground 4km SMART Tunnel. Also, Gamuda was previously involved in the construction of the Kaohsiung MRT in Taiwan.

Turning cautious. We are turning cautious on the sector. In our view, the bulls of there being more positive news flow could be offset by the bears in the form of tightening Government coffers, implementation delays and spiraling material costs. As such, we are altering our sector rating from Overweight to UNDER REVIEW, with a downside bias. There are no changes to our estimates and calls for Gamuda (NEUTRAL, TP: RM2.75) and MMC (TRADING BUY, TP: RM2.54).

daeng_jal

June 8th, 2010, 06:53 AM

:lol:Tg rambutan got bilik sejuk ahh???:lol:Lepas geramlah bro may be at the wrong place.I thought he said rakyat di dahulukan pencapaian diutamakan:)so this particular project would be a good startlah but if i get a dedicated line along jalan ampang would be a bonuslah:cheers:

hospital permai JB much better..boring boring,can go to MBS lagi:lol::lol:

serving jln ampang can be done by KJL branch line from dato keramat (magical granfather station:nuts:) along the river and can go further all the way to taman rimba ampang for all i care..at least can go mandi mandi using lrt...

XNeo

July 16th, 2010, 09:56 AM

so i guess no Kota Damansara line plan for now.
...even before 2020

nazrey

September 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM

It's MRT line not LRT missunderstood line anymore..

nazrey

September 14th, 2010, 08:30 PM

Prasarana improves under Idrose
By Sharen Kaur Published: 2010/09/15
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/SPNB155/Article/

STATE-owned public transport operator Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd has progressed well under the stewardship of its current group managing director (MD) Datuk Idrose Mohamed.

Since taking control of Prasarana on October 1 2008, Idrose has implemented several strategies to spearhead growth in the group and improve the country's public transportation system.

Prasarana started with its restructuring exercise in January 2009, which saw Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn Bhd (RapidKL) and its subsidiary Rapid Penang Sdn Bhd become wholly-owned units on July 1 and September 1 respectively.

RapidKL and Prasarana formerly operated as separate companies, even though both were wholly-owned government companies under the Ministry of Finance Inc.

It also improved connectivity by integrating the RapidKL bus services in the Klang Valley with the KL monorail operations. Currently more than 400,000 people use buses, while some 500,000 commute by light-rail transit (LRT).

In September 2009, Prasarana had successfully launched a RM4 billion Islamic bonds or sukuk programme, to raise funds for the RM7 billion LRT extension project of Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines, of which RM2 billion has been drawn down.

On the line extension project, Prasarana has awarded several sub-contracts for facilities work, worth about RM100 million.

The award of contracts for main lines, system and infrastructure is still pending. It is uncertain if the contracts will be awarded by November this year, as suggested by Idrose.

In June this year, Idrose announced that Prasarana has carried out studies on the Kota Damansara-Cheras Mass Rapid Transport (MRT) system, which includes a proposal to extend the line to Kajang and Sungai Buloh in Selangor.

JEFFREY ANG

March 19th, 2013, 03:08 PM

NIL

JEFFREY ANG

March 19th, 2013, 03:10 PM

Bombardier is going to bid for their rolling stocks. The latest Metro, Movia C951, has been ordered by Singapore MRT for its new all underground line.

Movia C951 taken from Bombardier.com
http://www.bombardier.com/files/en/supporting_docs/image_and_media/products/BT-4115-Metro-Singapore_Downtown_Line.jpg

Hahaha, I could speculate that Bombardier's bid will fail kot. Maybe the gov will opt for other rolling stocks from Spain (CAF) or Japan or maybe Siemens from Germany.
You can forget that Malaysia new rolling stock for LRT extension (Cheras/Ampang/Kelana Jaya) will look like this. The government will certainly choose the cheapest Chinese brand rolling stock (you can forget it, Bombardier or Alstom will not be their choice at all) and the design of the rolling stock won't be so modern and up to date.

asd5139

March 19th, 2013, 03:50 PM

JEFFREY ANG

March 19th, 2013, 03:58 PM

Stop making fool of yourself and stop bashing just for the sake of bashing lah. Read more on the matter rather than simply throw your baseless opinion. Btw this thread is a very old proposal which had already change into MRT 1.
I'm not talking senselessly. The four coach new monorail rolling stock is made in Malaysia (MTrans/Scomi), CSR (China) supplied the present KTM commuter rolling stock. the extension of LRT had 100% awarded to Chinese firms, only the new MRT line is not fully awarded to Chinese firms. So can you please elaborate on that???

TWK90

March 19th, 2013, 04:04 PM

For Ampang line extension, trains are of CSR Zhuzhou, signalling from Thales of France. It is definitely not 100% Chinese firms. Civil portion is mostly local.

asd5139

March 19th, 2013, 04:12 PM

I'm not talking senselessly. The four coach new monorail rolling stock is made in Malaysia (MTrans), CSR (China) supplied the present KTM commuter rolling stock. the extension of LRT had 100% awarded to Chinese firms, only the new MRT line is not fully awarded to Chinese firms. So can you please elaborate on that???

The additional train for the Kelana Jaya line extension are still ordered from Bombardier. MRT rolling stocks are tendered to Siemens. Only the rolling stock for Ampang line were given to CSR and TWK have give his bits of information. Why are you bringing KTM Komuter when we are talking about LRT and MRT?

JEFFREY ANG

March 19th, 2013, 04:16 PM

For Ampang line extension, trains are of CSR Zhuzhou, signalling from Thales of France. It is definitely not 100% Chinese firms. Civil portion is mostly local.
Thales of France did not build and design the rolling stock, it ONLY handle the signalling and wiring system of the rolling stock.

mrtfreak

March 20th, 2013, 02:11 AM

Unhappy people will be unhappy. Just let them have their b*tch fit and ignore them. When no one responds, then the discussion can't continue. The ignore button also exists for a reason.

erwinkarim

March 20th, 2013, 03:00 AM

Unhappy people will be unhappy. Just let them have their b*tch fit and ignore them. When no one responds, then the discussion can't continue. The ignore button also exists for a reason.

stupid question: where's the ignore button? :)

johan is

March 20th, 2013, 04:41 AM

sc4

March 20th, 2013, 10:50 AM

stupid question: where's the ignore button? :)

U can add them to your ignore/block list so u won't see any posts by them

mrtfreak

March 20th, 2013, 02:37 PM

stupid question: where's the ignore button? :)

At the top bar, click "User CP". Then there will be a column on your left. Scroll down till you find "Edit Ignore List". Placing people there will prevent you from seeing their posts.

erwinkarim

March 20th, 2013, 05:10 PM

At the top bar, click "User CP". Then there will be a column on your left. Scroll down till you find "Edit Ignore List". Placing people there will prevent you from seeing their posts.

thanks...

ILM

March 22nd, 2013, 12:57 PM

ddes

March 22nd, 2013, 03:13 PM

You can forget that Malaysia new rolling stock for LRT extension (Cheras/Ampang/Kelana Jaya) will look like this. The government will certainly choose the cheapest Chinese brand rolling stock (you can forget it, Bombardier or Alstom will not be their choice at all) and the design of the rolling stock won't be so modern and up to date.
There are many aspects of Chinese innovation that's left to be desired, but railways are certainly not one of them. In a short span of time, thanks to legal and non-legal technological transfers, China's expertise with high speed, locomotives and metros are on par with the very best. In fact, manufacturers like Alstom, Bombardier and Kawasaki have picked their fellow Chinese partners, CNR and CSR, to build rolling stock for the Chinese market. Singapore's new generation stock of trains, including those for the North East, Circle and Downtown lines will be built by Alstom in association with Nanjing Puzhen, Bombardier in association with CNR or CSR, depending on the type of stock.

gabriellim

March 23rd, 2013, 04:52 AM

China's expertise with high speed, locomotives and metros are on par with the very best.

Good, I totally agree with you, China's expertise with high speed, locomotives and metros are on par with the very best.

Apart from the fact that the train control system might malfunction when it rains, for example, on 23 July 2011.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/07/25/137283.jpg

http://news.longhoo.net/attachement/jpg/site2/20110725/0026553967e80f9711aa0a.jpg

http://wz.people.com.cn/mediafile/201107/24/F201107241453181666600000.jpg

http://www.chinahearsay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Wenzhou-Train-Crash.jpg

http://www.chinawhisper.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/china-train-crash.jpg

Since the Communists wanted to resume the service as soon as possible, some said the rescue exercise was cut shorted prematurely. After all, what's a few hundred lives, compared to the peaceful rise of the people's republic?

Left much to be desired? If there's no survivor, there's nothing left to be desired!

My dear forumers, perhaps it's time to stop tarnishing the positive good image of the great motherland!

JEFFREY ANG

March 23rd, 2013, 02:10 PM

Good, I totally agree with you, China's expertise with high speed, locomotives and metros are on par with the very best.

Apart from the fact that the train control system might malfunction when it rains, for example, on 23 July 2011.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/07/25/137283.jpg

http://news.longhoo.net/attachement/jpg/site2/20110725/0026553967e80f9711aa0a.jpg

http://wz.people.com.cn/mediafile/201107/24/F201107241453181666600000.jpg

http://www.chinahearsay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Wenzhou-Train-Crash.jpg

http://www.chinawhisper.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/china-train-crash.jpg

Since the Communists wanted to resume the service as soon as possible, some said the rescue exercise was cut shorted prematurely. After all, what's a few hundred lives, compared to the peaceful rise of the people's republic?

Left much to be desired? If there's no survivor, there's nothing left to be desired!

My dear forumers, perhaps it's time to stop tarnishing the positive good image of the great motherland!
That is why I suggest we let the Japanese do their work. They have the BEST high speed rail track safety record in the world. Even much better than the Europeans. Some money are not worth to save compare to the precious lives of Malaysians and Singaporeans.