Rapid KL LRT - Kota Damansara-Cheras Line

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More than one million Klang Valley residents will benefit from the much awaited new Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line. The Government had earlier said the new line and extensions should be ready by 2012. Sources said with the average construction period taking three to four years, work would have to start by the end of this year.

The 40km route covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley such as Damansara and Cheras as well as the fast growing area of Kota Damansara. It will also serve the heart of the Golden Triangle, the business and financial hub of Kuala Lumpur. Currently, the area is only served by KL Monorail, which is already suffering from overcrowding.

The new line, which sources said would cost between RM4bil and RM5bil and will be mostly elevated, will provide the much needed expansion to the current 56km, 48-station light rail transit network, especially in view of the rising fuel prices and the new emphasis on public transport. The line was announced in October 2006 by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak but little has been heard about it since then.

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar. It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya Line to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan. The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras. It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11. Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya Line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang Line at Masjid Jamek and Maluri. There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

Sources said the route was a “desktop alignment” which would form the basis for the eventual line. The number of stations has also not been finalised. The final alignment and number of stations is unlikely to vary in any major way from the “desktop” plan. As with the other lines, the new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop. Nor had announced that public transport would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance in Budget 2009 and future budgets. Sources said the Government was also currently conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

On September 2008, the Chief Executive Officer of SPNB, the asset owner of the Ampang Line and Kelana Jaya Line said that the line may be upgraded to a Mass Rapid Transit system as the line will connect two high density areas of Kuala Lumpur. The company expects a daily ridership of 500,000 in which an MRT system is more suitable than an LRT system. However, a study will be done first before any decision is made. He added that a integrated transport platform will be build with the new line in areas of Damansara or Sungai Buloh similar to the one that is currently built in Bandar Tasik Selatan station[2]. The CEO also said that the detailed design stage will begin in 2nd quarter 2009.

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Kota Damansara-Cheras rail line right on track
Sunday June 15, 2008 By LEONG SHEN-LI TheStar

PETALING JAYA: More than one million Klang Valley residents will benefit from the much awaited new Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line.

The Government had earlier said the new line and extensions should be ready by 2012. Sources said with the average construction period taking three to four years, work would have to start by the end of this year.

The 40km route covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley such as Damansara and Cheras as well as the fast growing area of Kota Damansara.

It will also serve the heart of the Golden Triangle, the business and financial hub of Kuala Lumpur.

Currently, the area is only served by KL Monorail, which is already suffering from overcrowding.

The new line, which sources said would cost between RM4bil and RM5bil and will be mostly elevated, will provide the much needed expansion to the current 56km, 48-station light rail transit network, especially in view of the rising fuel prices and the new emphasis on public transport.

The line was announced in October 2006 by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak but little has been heard about it since then.

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar.

It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line (formerly Putra-LRT) to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan.

The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras.

It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11.

Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang LRT line (formerly Star-LRT) at Masjid Jamek and Maluri.

There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

Sources said the route was a “desktop alignment” which would form the basis for the eventual line. The number of stations has also not been finalised.

The final alignment and number of stations is unlikely to vary in any major way from the “desktop” plan.

As with the other lines, the new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop after a briefing session with Backbenchers last Thursday.

Nor had announced that public transport would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance in Budget 2009 and future budgets.

Sources said the Government was also currently conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

Besides the new line, the Government is also trying to get extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines started.

The extensions will cover Subang Jaya, USJ, Kinrara and Puchong and meet at Putra Heights.

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RapidKL seeks swift decision, welcomes new rail transit line
Monday June 16, 2008 By LEE YUK PENG, TheStar

PETALING JAYA: RapidKL hopes the Government can decide fast on the new 40km Kota Damansara-Cheras rail transit line, which covers some of the most densely populated areas in the Klang Valley.

RapidKL communications general manager Ebi Azly Abdullah said the rail transit line would be a good way of getting people to use the public transportation service.

“Rail should be the backbone of the public transportation system. It can ferry a lot of people in a short period of time.

“Taking the light rail transit to the city will be cheaper,'' said Ebi Azly.

He said this in response to the new rail line and extensions planned to be ready by 2012.

The new line will be owned by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd and operated by RapidKL.

While the Government has yet to announce when work will begin on the new line, sources pointed to the “positive statements” by Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop after a briefing session with Backbenchers last Thursday.

Nor Mohamed had announced that public transportation would be getting more incentives, allocations and assistance under the Budget 2009 and future Budgets.

Sources also said the Government was conducting the mid-term review of the 9th Malaysia Plan and there were concerted efforts to get the new line in.

Besides the new line, the Government is also trying to get extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang Lines.

The extensions will cover Subang Jaya, USJ, Kinrara and Puchong and meet at Putra Heights.

Yesterday, Nor Mohamed also announced that the upcoming 2009 Budget would spell some relief for Malaysians now saddled with higher living costs with its emphasis on a more efficient public transportation system and a knowledge-based economy, among others.

“Various measures are being worked out to ensure as many Malaysians will enjoy some measure of prosperity,” he said after meeting federal Finance Ministry officials in Kota Kinabalu.

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New LRT lines may save billions in fuel costs
Friday September 5, 2008
By ROYCE CHEAH

KUALA LUMPUR: More than a million Klang Valley residents stand to benefit from the extension and new light rail transit lines announced in Budget 2009, a three-fold increase from current levels.

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB) said with the new level of public transport usage, the country could save as much as RM3bil in fuel costs.

The construction of a new 42km Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT line as well as extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines were announced as part of measures to develop public transport under the Budget.

Other measures include the purchase of more trains and buses.

The initiatives will cost a total of RM35bil.

SPNB chief executive officer, Shaipudin Shah Harun, said the first train from the 35 trains that were ordered for the Kelana Jaya LRT line would be operational by September next year.

Speaking to reporters at a special post-budget briefing yesterday, Shaipudin said all the trains, which were ordered in 2006, would be ready by 2011 while the 15km extensions to the Kelana Jaya and Ampang lines would also be ready at about the same time.

“The extensions are now at the detailed design stage and we need about a year for land acquisition,” he said.

Shaipudin said the detailed design stage for the new 42km Kota Damansara-Cheras line would happen by the second quarter of next year adding that this new line would have 32 stations, five of which would be underground.

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Details of the Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT plan expected soon
02-12-2008: by Yong Min Wei THEEDGEDAILY

KUALA LUMPUR: The government soon will have full details of the Kota Damansara-Cheras light rail transit (LRT) project which will eventually benefit more than a million commuters in the Klang Valley.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said the 42km LRT project that would link Kota Damansara and Cheras was on the drawing board and expressed confidence that the project could take off in the near future.

“Just a few days ago, a comprehensive briefing on the project was given to me and my senior officers,” he told a press conference during his working visit at the Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd’s (KTMB) Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) depot and locomotive workshop yesterday.

According to Ong, his ministry would need some time following the comprehensive briefing to provide a host of information on the entire project that has been announced as part of the measures to develop public transport under the Budget 2009.

Under Budget 2009, RM35 bilion will be expended to improve public transportation, which among others include a new Kota Damansara-Cheras LRT line set for completion in 2014.

Asked to elaborate on the estimated cost and deadline for the project, he replied: “Be a little bit more patient... I don’t have much to tell you today.”

On a separate matter, Ong did not wish to comment on several independent non-executive directors that were reported to have tendered their resignation from the KTMB board following their protest in the appointment of the company’s new managing director.

“It is only fair that I leave it to the Ministry of Finance to comment as the appointments of directors come under their jurisdiction” he pointed out.

Nevertheless, Ong said such resignations would not affect the operations of KTMB, adding that he was satisfied with the company’s ability to tackle problems faced by commuters lately.

Earlier, Ong said following successful overhauls, there would be 36 EMUs to service the KTM Komuter train routes by March 2009 from the current 29 EMUs that were operational.

“With the increase, waiting during peak hours will be reduced to only 15 minutes,” he said.

He also stressed that of the 15 locomotives from Dalian, China that were non-operational in May this year, 13 locomotives had been repaired and now operational while the other two should be on track by month end.

Ong added that repairs to the 15 locomotives were free of charge as it was well within warranty period following their fresh delivery from the manufacturer.

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Laluan LRT bawah tanah baru di KL
Sep 14, 2008 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Bandar raya Kuala Lumpur akan mempunyai laluan transit aliran ringan (LRT) bawah tanah baru sejauh 5.9 kilometer dari Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields ke Pasar Rakyat di Bukit Bintang.

Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Syarikat Prasarana Negara Berhad (SPNB), Shaipudin Shah Harun berkata, laluan bawah tanah itu yang mempunyai lima stesen adalah sebahagian daripada projek LRT baru aliran Kota Damansara ke Cheras yang dijangka siap pada 2014.

''Berikutan jumlah penduduk yang ramai iaitu kira-kira 878,000 orang di sepanjang laluan ini, maka kita sedang mengkaji kemungkinan mengunakan tren berkapasiti lebih besar seperti diguna Transit Aliran Massa (MRT) di Singapura," jelasnya.

Beliau berkata demikian pada sidang akhbar bersama SPNB dan Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras Sdn. Bhd. (RapidKL) mengenai Bajet 2009 di sini hari ini.

Ketika membentangkan Bajet 2009 baru-baru ini, Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi mengumumkan langkah kerajaan memperuntukkan RM35 bilion dalam tempoh 2009 hingga 2014 bagi meningkatkan kecekapan pengangkutan awam khususnya LRT.

Laluan LRT bawah tanah sedia ada membabitkan aliran Kelana Jaya dari Masjid Jamek sehingga ke Ampang Park.

Menurut Shaipudin, projek laluan baru sejauh 42 kilometer dengan 32 stesen itu akan bermula pada suku kedua tahun 2009 membabitkan proses reka bentuk.

Antara laluan yang terlibat, katanya, ialah Kota Damansara, Bandar Utama, Bangsar, KL Sentral, Bukit Bintang, Bandar Tasik Selatan dan Cheras manakala stesen untuk laluan bawah tanah belum ditetapkan.

Mengenai pengumuman ketika Bajet 2009 untuk menyambung LRT aliran Ampang dan Kelana Jaya yang masing-masing sejauh 15 kilometer yang dijangka siap pada akhir 2011, beliau berkata, pihaknya telah selesai melakukan kajian tanah serta menentukan jajaran dan kini dalam proses reka bentuk landasan dan stesen.

''Projek pembinaan kedua- dua laluan ini dijangka bermula pada pertengahan tahun depan dengan aliran Kelana Jaya akan mempunyai 12 stesen termasuk Subang, Subang Jaya, USJ dan Putra Heights.

''Sambungan aliran Ampang juga turut mempunyai 12 stesen termasuk OUG, Kinrara, Puchong dan Putra Heights," jelas beliau.

Ditanya tentang perolehan 35 set tren baru bagi aliran Kelana Jaya, beliau berkata, tren itu yang sedang dibina oleh Bombardier di Sahagun, Mexico dijangka tiba di Pelabuhan Klang November ini.

''Tren baru ini akan dipasang dengan peralatan tambahan di sini termasuk penyaman udara dan menjalani beberapa siri ujian sebelum memulakan operasi yang dijangka pada September 2009," jelasnya.

Tambah beliau, dengan siapnya projek sambungan dan laluan baru itu, jumlah pengguna LRT di Lembah Klang dijangka meningkat kepada sejuta orang sehari berbanding 350,000 orang sekarang.

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New LRT lines approved
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Transport Ministry has approved the proposed alignment for the new light rail transit (LRT) line in the Klang Valley, its minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy said.

He said the ministry has also approved the alignments for the extensions to existing LRT lines which were proposed by Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB).

The proposal would be submitted to the Cabinet committee on public transport.

Chan was speaking to reporters yesterday after the launch of the Permai Central Transport Hub at Pusat Bandar Putra Permai near Seri Kembangan which is located south of here.

The Government had proposed the construction of a new LRT line between Kota Damansara and Cheras.

It had also proposed extensions to the existing Kelana Jaya (formerly Putra-LRT) Line from Kelana Jaya to USJ and the Ampang(formerly Star-LRT) Line from Sri Petaling to Bukit Jalil and Puchong.

The lines would be constructed and owned by SPNB, which is 100% owned by the Finance Ministry.

On when construction would begin, Chan said it would depend on the Cabinet committee headed by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.

On the Ipoh-Padang Besar double tracking and electrification project, Chan said the Government was currently working out the cost of recently revived project.

He said this was being determined by his ministry, Finance Ministry and the Economic Planning Unit in the Prime Minister’s Department.

Chan said the ministry was also working out the cost of expanding Ipoh’s Sultan Azlan Shah Airport.

Last week, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi made the announcement that the airport would be improved and expanded for more traffic.

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Adding value to Mutiara Damansara
Saturday January 31, 2009
By EDY SARIF

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Ghazali: About two million people come to The Curve every month.

THE development of 360 acres in Mutiara Damansara by Boustead Properties Bhd will see the addition of another jewel in March with the completion of the 26-storey Surian Tower office building.

According to its executive director Datuk Ghazali Mohd Ali, this is part of the property developer’s efforts to add value to the current development: “Of the 360 acres of development, 20 acres are allocated for corporate office projects while the other 40 acres are for retail.”

“It will be the tallest building in this area. We will also build and maintain the roads here to ensure easy access, not just for those living here, but also for visitors as well. With the help of the authorities, we have managed to control the traffic here, though there is still room for improvement,” he said at a recent media briefing.

There are several access roads to Mutiara Damansara – via Persiaran Surian from Bandar Utama, Persiaran Surian from Kota Damansara, Jalan PJU 7/1 from Damansara Perdana and via Penchala Link from Kuala Lumpur.

Sited on prime area just beside Bandar Utama and with freehold title, Mutiara Damansara properties enjoy high appreciation value especially the residential units.

For example, he pointed out, when Mutiara Damansara first launched its bungalows and semi-Ds in 2002, the selling prices were RM1.3mil and RM843,000 respectively. Last year, he says, these units were changing hands for RM2.4mil and RM1.8mil respectively.

Boustead Properties is now preparing to launch its last residential development in the area, Mutiara Damansara Surian Residency, which will be its second condominium project after the Surian Condominium. The freehold development will have about 300 units of between 900 and 2,200 sq ft.

It will have two blocks of 23 and 25 storeys each and some low-rise units, priced at about RM400 psf.

The Surian Tower building, he says, will be eco-friendly as it will tap rain water through its ground reservoir for landscaping.

“We are building a car park above to give natural ventilation. Apart from that, we are using layers of sun shading louvres for energy consumption,” he adds.

The new office building will have over 300,000 sq ft of space for rental and each floor plate offers 15,000 sq ft of space with net lettable area of 12,000 sq ft.

“Our plan is to have about 60% anchor tenants while the balance would be for smaller companies. About 50% of the space has already been taken up,” he says, adding that Nestle (M) Bhd will be one of the anchor tenants.

Work on the building, a gross development value of RM165mil, started 1½ years ago. It was sold to Lembaga Angkatan Tentera (LTAT) for RM500 psf.

“Surian Tower will provide a total of 930 car parks to add to the existing 7,000 parking bays around The Curve area. This will help ease the shortage of parking bays around this area especially during the weekends,” says Ghazali.

The Curve, Malaysia’s first lifestyle pedestrianised shopping mall, is owned and developed by Mutiara Rini Sdn Bhd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Boustead Properties.

Currently, about 98% of the space at The Curve is occupied. Even so, he says, there is a long waiting list of new tenants eager to move in.

“About two million people come to The Curve every month. Traffic is high, which is a good sign for our tenants’ businesses. Some of them are, in fact, expanding their businesses here,” he says.

The Curve has about 70 food and beverage outlets, bistros and cafés, as well as, 250 shops plus 20 office suites.

Boustead Properties also plans to build a second Royal Bintang hotel (the first is The Royal Bintang Damansara) to be located behind Cineleisure which will have about 300 rooms and a convention centre.

“We plan to build an interlink connecting The Surian Tower to the hotel and straight to The Curve shopping mall. It would be fully air-conditioned, five metres wide with some shops along the way,” he says, adding to improve connectivity, the company is also hoping to have a physical link from the proposed new LRT station beside the Surian Tower.

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Adding value to Mutiara Damansara
Saturday January 31, 2009
By EDY SARIF

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Ghazali: About two million people come to The Curve every month.

“We plan to build an interlink connecting The Surian Tower to the hotel and straight to The Curve shopping mall. It would be fully air-conditioned, five metres wide with some shops along the way,” he says, adding to improve connectivity, the company is also hoping to have a physical link from the proposed new LRT station beside the Surian Tower.

Menara Surian
Mutiara Damansara

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by Faiza Razif art n design gallery

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Government Set To Improve Urban Transportation, Says Najib
Published: 2009/08/11

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 11 (Bernama) -- The government is set to further improve urban transportation here to ensure that the benefits of a fully integrated system will be enjoyed by all commuters, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said on Tuesday.

The upgrade in public transportation would include the development of a new mass transit line, running from Damansara to Cheras and from Kelana Jaya to Putra Heights, that would integrate with the existing Kuala Lumpur Sentral hub, he said.

Najib said this at the launch of the Nu Sentral retail mall which is expected to be completed by 2012, and is a part of an integrated development project at Kuala Lumpur Sentral (KL Sentral).

Nu Sentral is in a unique position as it is right at the focal point of KL city's centre of connectivity, linking it to the rest of Klang Valley via the city light rail (LRT) system and the Komuter (commuter) system and the country's largest international airport via the Express Rail Link (ERL).

Another unique accessibility feature of the Nu Sentral is its linkage to KL Sentral via a fully air-conditioned bridge and another separate bridge to link to-and-from the KL Sentral Monorail Station.

"With the completion of the new development, we will see seamless connectivity between the KTM inter-city and commuter services, the monorail, the ERL and the Kelana Jaya LRT through the station and the new integrated development," Najib said.

Nu Sentral is a 1.2 million square feet development with a gross development value (GDV) of RM1.4 billion, comprising a seven storey retail mall and 27-storey office tower.

It is part of an integrated development project within the KL Sentral covering 2.6 million square ft which includes three office towers and a boutique hotel, with total GDV amounting to RM2.14 billion.

Nu Sentral and the associated office tower development is a joint-investment between Malaysian Resources Corporation Bhd (MRCB) and Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB), a subsidiary of Yayasan Amanah Hartanah Bumiputera.

Describing Nu Sentral as potentially being three times bigger than the Mid Valley Megamall, Najib said the project would transform Brickfields, although some aspects of the area like Little India would remain.

Najib also said that the government is committed to work in partnership with the private sector to promote the real estate industry, in order to promote the local economy.

He added that good infrastructure and connectivity were the basis for economic growth in any developing country.

In February this year, the government approved a RM110 million package of additional works to improve the road infrastructure around KL Sentral and Brickfields, as part of the economic stimulus package.

"When MRCB asked for government support in terms of public work for this development, we agreed to approve RM110 million on the condition that they invest RM2 billion," Najib said.

"I am happy to note that they have invested more than RM3 billion," he added.

Located to the south of Stesen Sentral Kuala Lumpur, with direct road frontage to Jalan Stesen Sentral and Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Nu Sentral will be managed by Nu Sentral Sdn Bhd, a joint-venture development by MRCB and PHB with 51:49 equity stakes respectively.

Meanwhile, MRCB chairman Tan Sri Azlan Zainol said Nu Sentral has a ready catchment population or market of more than 150,000 daily commuters who use Stesen Sentral KL.

This is further complemented by more than 20,000 permanent workers and residents who are either currently working or residing within the KL Sentral development area, not to mention the thousands of other permanent residents in the Brickfields neighbourhood.

"By the time the mall is completed, we anticipate more than 180,000 daily commuters will utilise the combined KL Sentral station facilities," he said.

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RM1.4b bina sistem pengangkutan awam Nu Sentral - PM
12 Ogos 2009 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 11 Ogos - Usaha kerajaan mewujudkan sistem pengangkutan awam bersepadu di bandar raya ini dijangka tercapai dengan pembinaan pusat beli-belah baru, Nu Sentral yang bersambung dengan rangkaian pengangkutan rel di Brickfields di sini.

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak berkata, pusat itu akan menyediakan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan kereta api antara bandar, komuter, monorel, Express Rail Link (ERL) dan transit aliran ringan (LRT).

"Laluan transit aliran massa (MRT) dari Damansara ke Cheras dan dari Kelana Jaya ke Putra Heights akan disepadukan dengan pusat beli-belah baru ini yang dijangka siap pada 2012," katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian ketika berucap melancarkan Nu Sentral yang akan dibangunkan oleh Malaysian Resources Corporation Berhad (MRCB) dan Pelaburan Hartanah Berhad (PHB) di sini hari ini.

Turut hadir Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop; Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin dan Pengerusi MRCB, Tan Sri Azlan Zainol.

Pembinaan pusat beli-belah tujuh tingkat yang merupakan sebahagian daripada projek pembangunan bersepadu Kuala Lumpur Sentral (KL Sentral) akan dibina bersama-sama tiga menara pejabat 27 tingkat dan sebuah hotel butik dengan kos keseluruhan RM1.4 bilion.

Ia akan disambungkan dengan Stesen KL Sentral, Stesen Monorel di Jalan Tun Sambanthan dan stesen MRT baru bagi laluan Damansara-Cheras menerusi jambatan berhawa dingin.

Menurut Najib, Nu Sentral yang tiga kali ganda lebih besar daripada Mid Valley Megamall akan mengubah imej lama Brickfields, meskipun beberapa aspek di kawasan itu seperti Little India, akan dikekalkan.

"Kita akan memastikan manfaat dari segi ekonomi dan sosial daripada pembangunan semula Brickfields ini akan dinikmati setiap masyarakat di kawasan berkenaan selaras dengan konsep 1Malaysia," katanya.

Tambah beliau, dengan adanya rangkaian pengangkutan awam bersepadu itu, ia akan menggalakkan orang ramai berjalan kaki seperti penduduk Hong Kong yang dilihatnya kurus kerana melakukan aktiviti itu setiap hari.

Dalam pada itu, kata beliau, pembangunan Nu Sentral adalah selaras dengan langkah kerajaan menyenaraikan usaha meningkatkan mutu perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam sebagai salah satu daripada enam Bidang Keberhasilan Utama Nasional (NKRA).

"Kita telah menetapkan bahawa usaha meningkatkan mutu perkhidmatan ini dijadikan sebagai sasaran yang perlu dicapai bagi tempoh jangka sederhana kerana ia penting untuk pertumbuhan ekonomi negara yang mapan," katanya.

Dalam perkembangan berkaitan, beliau berkata, kerajaan telah mengambil langkah untuk menaik taraf prasarana jalan raya di sekitar KL Sentral dan Brickfields dengan meluluskan peruntukan di bawah pakej rangsangan ekonomi sebanyak RM110 juta pada Februari lalu.

"Langkah ini selaras dengan konsep perkongsian antara kerajaan dan sektor swasta dan juga setelah pihak MRCB berjumpa dengan kita bagi memaklumkan mereka bersedia melabur RM2 bilion untuk pembangunan KL Sentral sekiranya kerajaan membantu menaik taraf infrastruktur jalan raya.

"Saya gembira kerana MRCB telah melangkaui sasaran ditetapkan dengan pelaburan baru di KL Sentral kini telah melebih RM3 bilion," katanya.

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so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?

[rizalhakim]

Pengangkutan awam ditingkat


KUALA LUMPUR: Pembangunan laluan baru transit aliran ringan (LRT) dari Damansara ke Cheras dan dari Kelana jaya ke Putra Heights, Puchong, akan menyaksikan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan LRT dan komuter, untuk manfaat pengguna khususnya di ibu kota.

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak berkata, langkah itu adalah sebahagian usaha kerajaan dalam meningkatkan sistem pengangkutan awam di ibu kota bagi memastikan sistem bersepadu sepenuhnya dinikmati semua pengguna.

"Dengan siapnya pembangunan baru itu, kita akan melihat sambungan sempurna dengan LRT dan perkhidmatan komuter menerusi stesen di NU Sentral," katanya ketika merasmikan Majlis Pelancaran Pusat Beli-Belah NU Sentral, di KL Sentral, semalam.

NU Sentral dijangka siap menjelang 2012 di Brickfields dan mempunyai kedudukan unik di tengah pusat perhubungan ibu kota, yang menghubungkannya dengan keseluruhan tempat di Lembah Klang menerusi LRT dan komuter serta lapangan terbang antarabangsa terbesar negara menerusi Express Rail Link (ERL).

[nazrey]

so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?


RM1.4b bina sistem pengangkutan awam Nu Sentral - PM
12 Ogos 2009 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak berkata, pusat itu akan menyediakan sambungan sempurna perkhidmatan kereta api antara bandar, komuter, monorel, Express Rail Link (ERL) dan transit aliran ringan (LRT).

Ia akan disambungkan dengan Stesen KL Sentral, Stesen Monorel di Jalan Tun Sambanthan dan stesen MRT baru bagi laluan Damansara-Cheras menerusi jambatan berhawa dingin.

:cheers:

[nazrey]

Laluan LRT bawah tanah baru di KL
Sep 14, 2008 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Bandar raya Kuala Lumpur akan mempunyai laluan transit aliran ringan (LRT) bawah tanah baru sejauh 5.9 kilometer dari Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields ke Pasar Rakyat di Bukit Bintang.


This line will go underground around here too >> :cheers:

[allurban]

so KD-Cheras line will pass through KL Sentral area.... would the alignment clash with the existing KJ line?No, there will be no clash.

As far as I can tell, the KD Cheras line will go underground from the Jalan Maarof/Jalan Bangsar intersection (they may try to build a connection with the KJ LRT at Bangsar). It will then cross brickfield and follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan towards Jalan Sultan Suleiman.

Not sure what happens after that...but the plan will involve tunneling under Jalan Tun Sambanthan. The KL Sentral station on the KD-Cheras line will be off Jalan Tun Sambanthan at the doorstep of NU Sentral.

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

No, there will be no clash.

As far as I can tell, the KD Cheras line will go underground from the Jalan Maarof/Jalan Bangsar intersection (they may try to build a connection with the KJ LRT at Bangsar). It will then cross brickfield and follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan towards Jalan Sultan Suleiman.


nampaknya mereka nak sambung ngan KL monorail di sini yang terhampir ngan KL Sentral (stesen subway tak masuk ke terminal selalu jugak) ...

[allurban]

I just took a close look at the route posted to Google Earth which is supposed to be based on this map:

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Which was published in the Star

The Star report suggests that the line will follow the existing Kelana Jaya line from Bangsar through to Pasar Seni....which is reflected in the map and the posting on google earth.

It suggests that the approach will follow Jalan Bangsar

But Prasarana and the people at KL Sentral that I have talked to, plus the report about the NU Sentral...are all suggesting that the line will be along Tun Sambanthan with a station between the monorail and the existing KL Sentral railway station.

For that to happen, here is what I see:

1. The line will be elevated from Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Bangsar Routing

2. The line may travel underground through Bangsar - because of the changing topography of the hill may make tunneling cheaper.

3. Whether it is elevated or underground the line will follow Jalan Maarof towards Bangsar.

4. Look for another station at or near the Bangsar Shopping Centre (probably called Bangsar Utara)

5. There will probably be another station at Bangsar Baru

6. The line will follow Lorong Maarof and pass between the Maybank and UOA buildings.

6a. The open car park between the 2 buildings is a likely site for another station (Bangsar or Bangsar Selatan) that would integrate the two lines.

6b. The platform would probably stretch across Jalan Bangsar so there could be a second entrace on the other side of Jalan Bangsar.

6c. At this point, a KTM Komuter station at Bangsar (limited service) begins to make sense.

Brickfields Routing

1. There is an open space between Jalan Ang Seng 3 and Jalan Ang Seng 4

2. After this, there is a school field

2a. In order to pass the school field the tunnel would pass under a Hindu Kuil - possibly a source of tension if demolition is required.

3. After the school field, the line can follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan to NU Sentral/KL Sentral/Brickfields station.

By this point they should probably rename KL Sentral as Brickfields-KL Sentral...

sounds like "King's Cross - St. Pancras" :)

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

I just took a close look at the route posted to Google Earth which is supposed to be based on this map:

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

3. After the school field, the line can follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan to NU Sentral/KL Sentral/Brickfields station.


WOW! interesting indeed!

[allurban]

nampaknya mereka nak sambung ngan KL monorail di sini yang terhampir ngan KL Sentral (stesen subway tak masuk ke terminal selalu jugak) ...Im not sure that I understood what you mean Nazrey...my BM hasnt developed that far.

But as far as I know the MRT line will have a station along Jalan Tun Sambanthan, across the road from the KL Sentral monorail station. It will be located underground so Im guessing there will be a subway across Jalan Tun Sambanthan as well as the overhead bridge. I guess it depends on whether they can find space for it or not.

As for the rest of the Kota Damansara - Cheras line - Id really like to know the route. What has been posted on Google Earth is pretty unrealistic (it follows Jalan Raja Chulan to Jalan Bukit Bintang, then Jalan Bukit Bintang to Jalan Pudu and on to the Pasar Rakyat market)...... :nuts:

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

Im not sure that I understood what you mean Nazrey...my BM hasnt developed that far.

But as far as I know the MRT line will have a station along Jalan Tun Sambanthan, across the road from the KL Sentral monorail station. It will be located underground so Im guessing there will be a subway across Jalan Tun Sambanthan as well as the overhead bridge. I guess it depends on whether they can find space for it or not.

As for the rest of the Kota Damansara - Cheras line - Id really like to know the route. What has been posted on Google Earth is pretty unrealistic (it follows Jalan Raja Chulan to Jalan Bukit Bintang, then Jalan Bukit Bintang to Jalan Pudu and on to the Pasar Rakyat market)...... :nuts:

Cheers, m

Ya..you said like this >>> 5.9 km is the distance of the undergrond wanna be! :cheers:

Laluan LRT bawah tanah baru di KL
Sep 14, 2008 Oleh NIZAM YATIM

KUALA LUMPUR 4 Sept. - Bandar raya Kuala Lumpur akan mempunyai laluan transit aliran ringan (LRT) bawah tanah baru sejauh 5.9 kilometer dari Jalan Tun Sambanthan, Brickfields ke Pasar Rakyat di Bukit Bintang.

[rizalhakim]

when the xpected completion???

[patchay]

will the Kota Damansara line go along Persiaran Surian, passing by Mutiara Damansara area?

[nazrey]

I just took a close look at the route posted to Google Earth which is supposed to be based on this map:

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Which was published in the Star

The Star report suggests that the line will follow the existing Kelana Jaya line from Bangsar through to Pasar Seni....which is reflected in the map and the posting on google earth.

It suggests that the approach will follow Jalan Bangsar

But Prasarana and the people at KL Sentral that I have talked to, plus the report about the NU Sentral...are all suggesting that the line will be along Tun Sambanthan with a station between the monorail and the existing KL Sentral railway station.

For that to happen, here is what I see:

1. The line will be elevated from Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Bangsar Routing

2. The line may travel underground through Bangsar - because of the changing topography of the hill may make tunneling cheaper.

3. Whether it is elevated or underground the line will follow Jalan Maarof towards Bangsar.

4. Look for another station at or near the Bangsar Shopping Centre (probably called Bangsar Utara)

5. There will probably be another station at Bangsar Baru

6. The line will follow Lorong Maarof and pass between the Maybank and UOA buildings.

6a. The open car park between the 2 buildings is a likely site for another station (Bangsar or Bangsar Selatan) that would integrate the two lines.

6b. The platform would probably stretch across Jalan Bangsar so there could be a second entrace on the other side of Jalan Bangsar.

6c. At this point, a KTM Komuter station at Bangsar (limited service) begins to make sense.

Brickfields Routing

1. There is an open space between Jalan Ang Seng 3 and Jalan Ang Seng 4

2. After this, there is a school field

2a. In order to pass the school field the tunnel would pass under a Hindu Kuil - possibly a source of tension if demolition is required.

3. After the school field, the line can follow Jalan Tun Sambanthan to NU Sentral/KL Sentral/Brickfields station.

By this point they should probably rename KL Sentral as Brickfields-KL Sentral...

sounds like "King's Cross - St. Pancras" :)

Cheers, m

This is really informative!!! :cheers:

[salemgh]

Any Google Earth draw up of the KD-Cheras line available online?

[allurban]

when the xpected completion???How about focusing on the expected starting. :nuts: :lol: The project is part of the 10MP and should start by 2011 or 2012 if lucky. The reason is simple - the route still has to be approved, the design and drawings have to be done, major decisions have to be made etc. etc.

Look for about 4-5 years to complete this line depending on the length of the underground tunnel. Remember, this is an MRT length not LRTwill the Kota Damansara line go along Persiaran Surian, passing by Mutiara Damansara area?Yes that is the intended route. Also, the Kota Damansara line will be extended to Sg. Buloh (but Im not sure if it will be integrated with the KTM station).
Any Google Earth draw up of the KD-Cheras line available online?I will be posting one to the TRANSIT website soon - http://transitmy.org. Look for it today or tomorrow.

Cheers, m

[salemgh]

This is my third message on SSC but I've been an avid follower of threads, especially pertaining to "mass transit" in the Klang Valley.
Even though I'm not a Malaysian (people classify me as an expat even though I hate this denomination) I feel deeply concerned about all aspects of life in Malaysia. Indeed, I love this place dearly and adamently want to see Malaysia as a whole succeed both economically and socially.

I could of, like most expats, have a car and live either in KLCC, Bangsar or Mont' Kiara. However, I vehemently refused to engage in such senseless lifestyle and wanted to be in touch with the 'real' Malaysia. I live close to General Hospital KL and use public transportation all the time, everyday, rain or shine, storm or calm, haze or clear. I am also a very frequent user of KTM (I visit my friends who live close to UPM, Serdang, Kajang or Seremban). So to a certain extent, and if I may, I share a lot of the sorrows many Malaysians have to endure when using public transportation. And still, I'm way better off than most Malaysians commuting: indeed, if things start getting too hard and depressing in KL, I can always fly back home. But I feel most sorry for the hundreds of commuters I have talked to already: this is their (your) home and are here to stay even if the transportation should one day (let's hope not) become a complete cluster of chaos.

We all know what the shortcomings in the current Monorail, LRT lines are and their horrendous 'integration'. I do not know how many times I've had to help out blind or disabled people up, down, round the numerous stairs and congestion. Even more shocking, while Malaysians are by FAR more courteous than Americans (I am American), the rudeness of Malaysians is shocking when it comes to mass transit. Where does all the generosity and patience disappear all of a sudden? I've seen so many times old veiled women, old men with their Muslim hats getting thrown and pushed around rudely. What hurts even more is that more and more people think it's normal or do not even pay attention. How many times have we all seen punk youngsters listening to their loud music through the iPod, impolitely sitting in the LRT/Monorail while pregnant women or the elderly have to stand... It hurts even more knowing that Malaysia is, to an extent, a place that values family, respect. At least much more so than Europeans and North Americans do. But again, in the LRT/Monorail I've seen the ugliest side of people out here, way uglier than back 'home'.

Allurban, you seem to be well acquainted with the works on the new MRT line: is there any word or rumor about special attention given this time to the elderly and ENFORCING such disgusting behavior: having seats CLEARLY designated to impaired people. Will there be integrated police stations in some of the new MRT stations to enforce the chaos?

A lot of people keep saying Singapore is years ahead of KL/Malaysia. I believe both are on par, but the only difference is that when Singapore has an idea, it is successfully enforces the latter.

Again, I apologize for ranting and I am in no way a 'troll', but I just shared my frustrations and hope that the future line will be a lot more friendly to the dear Malaysians who can't walk as easily as most of us can... Any country can build infrastructure, but "comprehensive" infrastructure is a whole other story...

Thanks all and forgive me if I have offended anyone... this is obviously not the intention!

[allurban]

Allurban, you seem to be well acquainted with the works on the new MRT line: is there any word or rumor about special attention given this time to the elderly and ENFORCING such disgusting behavior: having seats CLEARLY designated to impaired people. Will there be integrated police stations in some of the new MRT stations to enforce the chaos?Salem, welcome to the forum and thanks for your observations. Regarding the MRT, I do not think that planning has gotten down to that level of detail yet - but I think it would be a great idea to integrate services and work on customer service programs, customer security programs and courtesy programs.

Hopefully the concept of the "Station Master" will be implemented in the new line, where all issues and concerns can be dealt with by one person, while technology can handle the more mundane tasks like ticket vending, updating Touch N Go cards, etc.

Cheers, m

[Lastresorter]

Is the Dsara-Cheras line a LRT or MRT? I'm confused...

[salemgh]

Allurban and others,

I retraced your MRT line on Google Earth and compared it with other transit (KJ, Ampang, KL Monorail) lines.
I made a few observations and correct me if I'm wrong on each one

-Bangsar Station: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-KL Sentral/NU Sentral: KL Monorail and MRT will share NU Sentral which will have a pedestrian bridge to KL Sentral
-Pasar Seni: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-Masjid Jamek: MRT, Kelana Jaya and Ampang will all be fully integrated (potential big hub for all rail lines)
-*Pavilion MRT station integrated to Pavilion Shopping Center(?)*
-Bukit Bintang: KL Monorail and MRT will be integrated
-Imbi: KL Monorail and MRT could be partially integrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)
-Pudu: Ampang and MRT could be partially intergrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)

May you please share what you think for each speculation I made based on Google Earth?

[aniqasyranie]

what is the difference between mrt and lrt?

[nazrey]

Light Rail Transit (LRT) is a form of urban rail public transportation that generally has a lower capacity and lower speed than heavy rail and metro systems (Mass Rapid Transit: MRT)

[Dr Jake]

If MRT, then I'm just hoping that the front car design doesn't look flat. It's fugly. I'm so superficial.

[YeahWho]

This is my third message on SSC but I've been an avid follower of threads, especially pertaining to "mass transit" in the Klang Valley.
Even though I'm not a Malaysian (people classify me as an expat even though I hate this denomination) I feel deeply concerned about all aspects of life in Malaysia. Indeed, I love this place dearly and adamently want to see Malaysia as a whole succeed both economically and socially.

I could of, like most expats, have a car and live either in KLCC, Bangsar or Mont' Kiara. However, I vehemently refused to engage in such senseless lifestyle and wanted to be in touch with the 'real' Malaysia. I live close to General Hospital KL and use public transportation all the time, everyday, rain or shine, storm or calm, haze or clear. I am also a very frequent user of KTM (I visit my friends who live close to UPM, Serdang, Kajang or Seremban). So to a certain extent, and if I may, I share a lot of the sorrows many Malaysians have to endure when using public transportation. And still, I'm way better off than most Malaysians commuting: indeed, if things start getting too hard and depressing in KL, I can always fly back home. But I feel most sorry for the hundreds of commuters I have talked to already: this is their (your) home and are here to stay even if the transportation should one day (let's hope not) become a complete cluster of chaos.

We all know what the shortcomings in the current Monorail, LRT lines are and their horrendous 'integration'. I do not know how many times I've had to help out blind or disabled people up, down, round the numerous stairs and congestion. Even more shocking, while Malaysians are by FAR more courteous than Americans (I am American), the rudeness of Malaysians is shocking when it comes to mass transit. Where does all the generosity and patience disappear all of a sudden? I've seen so many times old veiled women, old men with their Muslim hats getting thrown and pushed around rudely. What hurts even more is that more and more people think it's normal or do not even pay attention. How many times have we all seen punk youngsters listening to their loud music through the iPod, impolitely sitting in the LRT/Monorail while pregnant women or the elderly have to stand... It hurts even more knowing that Malaysia is, to an extent, a place that values family, respect. At least much more so than Europeans and North Americans do. But again, in the LRT/Monorail I've seen the ugliest side of people out here, way uglier than back 'home'.

Allurban, you seem to be well acquainted with the works on the new MRT line: is there any word or rumor about special attention given this time to the elderly and ENFORCING such disgusting behavior: having seats CLEARLY designated to impaired people. Will there be integrated police stations in some of the new MRT stations to enforce the chaos?

A lot of people keep saying Singapore is years ahead of KL/Malaysia. I believe both are on par, but the only difference is that when Singapore has an idea, it is successfully enforces the latter.

Again, I apologize for ranting and I am in no way a 'troll', but I just shared my frustrations and hope that the future line will be a lot more friendly to the dear Malaysians who can't walk as easily as most of us can... Any country can build infrastructure, but "comprehensive" infrastructure is a whole other story...

Thanks all and forgive me if I have offended anyone... this is obviously not the intention!

I share your concerns. I'm especially disturbed when seeing that no one seems bother to line up to get in the train. Everyone just squeezes in the crowd. I hope there would be law enforcer on duty to fine those who don't/refuse to line up. Doing this a few times and i bet people will start to drop their bad habit.

Also, every public transportation facility in the country should be equiped with escalators (both ways) and lift if it requires people to move from one floor to another. There are still some stations which don't have those basic facilities. For instance, Bandar Tasek Selatan station only has stairs. Masjid Jamek interchange station only has escalator going up. This is base on my last experience in 2005/6. I hope they upgrade that.

Also, all toilets in every station should be free. Those money collected for ticket fares should be able to cover the cost of maintaining clean toilets.

[allurban]

Allurban and others,

I retraced your MRT line on Google Earth and compared it with other transit (KJ, Ampang, KL Monorail) lines.
I made a few observations and correct me if I'm wrong on each one

-Bangsar Station: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-KL Sentral/NU Sentral: KL Monorail and MRT will share NU Sentral which will have a pedestrian bridge to KL Sentral
-Pasar Seni: MRT and Kelana Jaya will be fully integrated
-Masjid Jamek: MRT, Kelana Jaya and Ampang will all be fully integrated (potential big hub for all rail lines)
-*Pavilion MRT station integrated to Pavilion Shopping Center(?)*
-Bukit Bintang: KL Monorail and MRT will be integrated
-Imbi: KL Monorail and MRT could be partially integrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)
-Pudu: Ampang and MRT could be partially intergrated (walkbridge possible or the stations would be too far out?)

May you please share what you think for each speculation I made based on Google Earth?Salem, please note that it is not my design - this line was already made available on google earth and can be saved to the "my places" feature on Google Earth. Also, please note that the proposal in the Star may me different from the final design.

To look at your questions, first we need to know, what does "fully integrated" mean to you? Does it mean that the lines will share the same track and platform? Or be built on different levels?

Bangsar LRT will be close to the MRT but it will be a tight fit

KL Monorail and the MRT will both be connected to NU Sentral by a bridge. At present the design for the MRT is to be elevated through brickfields - the portal for the tunnel will be near the Brickfields YMCA ... However, according to the Prasarana MD, they would be happy to tunnel from Pusat Bandar Damansara through Bangsar and Brickfields and KL - but the cost would be much much higher.

I do not think the MRT will reach Masjid Jamek but it may come close to the south end of Pasar Seni

I expect there will be a station at Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan Sultan Ismail but I do not know if the MRT will go around Pavillion or reach Imbi and Hang Tuah as shown in the aerial photo.

Sorry I have no more info than that...

Cheers, m

[allurban]

what is the difference between mrt and lrt?LRT - Light Rail Transit or Light Rapid Transit; MRT - Mass-Rail Transit

"MRT and "LRT" are terms used to describe metro-type rail transit systems in Asia.

LRT is the more flexible term, used in different ways to describe rapid transit systems. The "light" generally refers to the cost of the infrastructure, engineering, and the capacity of the system.

In the North American and European context, "LRT" is used to describe systems that are closer to tram systems, running on segregated right of way.

In the Asian context, "LRT" is used to describe a metro-type system that has lower capacity than a "MRT" system but may have similar design and engineering.

Is the Dsara-Cheras line a LRT or MRT? I'm confused...MRT and LRT are both being used to describe the line. But they are leaning towards MRT.

Right now we can say that the line is an "LRT" line being planned for 4-carriage trains, with a capacity of 32,000 passengers per direction per hour. But we also know that it is being extended to Sg. Buloh KTM station.

Without seeing the demand projections, the 4-carriage LRT is the least that we will get.

The main question is, if they go towards an "MRT" standard, will the line get bigger and will it switch to a new technology?

Since it makes sense to keep on using the existing "LRT" technology (because all the mechanics and workers are trained on "LRT" and the workshops are designed for "LRT") - the line may be built as an "LRT" with narrower cars, but with longer station platforms and space for longer trains ...

8 -carriage versions of the Kelana Jaya line?

Right now we do not know what will happen because the projections are being kept quiet.

But since the line is going to be tunnelled, the advantages of "LRT" are there.

The Kelana Jaya trains do have a slight advantage, with steerable axles (allowing tighter turns) and the ability to climb steeper grades (or so Bombardier claims) ... and the potential for integration of the "MRT" with the existing Kelana Jaya line

Cheers, m

[aniqasyranie]

tq for the information :)

[allurban]

tq for the information :)You are welcome

We are trying to create a repository of info about public transport on our website, at http://transitmy.org/information/ but it is a long process and we need people's help to find links and resources.

We do have a good link on Light Rail (from the north american perspective) from the International Association of Transit Professionals - UITP - http://www.uitp.org/Public-Transport/light-rail/index.cfm

Cheers, m

[mrtfreak]

It may be a better idea to have the line tunnel from PBD to the other end where the exit portal is proposed. Would you think it would be better for them to split the project into two phases, each to be commissioned separately? For example, taking Sungai Buloh to NU KL Sentral as stage 1 and NU KL Sentral to Cheras as stage 2, stage 1 could begin construction earlier and have its own team to work on the project. It could have its own theme for station designs to revolve around, meeting certain standard criteria set - for instance, location of elevators and escalators to provide disabled friendliness.

Stage 2 could also have its own team and start construction perhaps a year later, allowing the section to be commissioned a year later too. Similarly, it could have station designs revolving around a theme unique to this section. With different commissioning dates, the line might be able to be implemented quicker than if the project were undertaken at an entire stretch. Turn around facilities could be provided at key stations, especially along the underground stretch as well, should there be a service disruption that may affect the underground portion. The current KJL does not have cross-over facilities in its underground section which may impede operations if a disruption occurs at any of those 5 stations.

[patchay]

Based on the maps I believe the route is as follows:

Alignment of the proposed Mass Rapid Transit between Kota Damansara and Cheras scheduled for implementation beginning 2011 to 2014:

1. Sg Buloh KTM Link (Proposed Extension)
2. Kota Damansara - Segi College
3. Persiaran Surian
4. Mutiara Damansara
5. Bandar Utama - 1U LDP
6. Taman Tun Dr Ismail - Pizza Hut/Jalan Burhanuddin Helmi
7. Sprint Highway - Phileo Damansara
8. Pusat Bandar Damansara - HelpUCollege
9. Jalan Maarof - Bukit Bandaraya Bangsar
10. Bangsar - Dataran Maybank (LRT - KJ Line)
11. Nu Sentral (LRT - KJ Line, Monorail)
12. Pasar Seni South (LRT - KJ Line)
13. Masjid Jamek (LRT - KJ Line, LRT - Ampang Line)
14. Bukit Nanas - Jalan Raja Chulan
15. Pavilion KL
16. Bukit Bintang (Monorail)
17. Jalan Pudu - Berjaya Times Square
18. Bulatan Pudu - Pudu Pasar/Police Station/Ezone Park
19. Taman Maluri/Miharja (LRT - Ampang Line)
20. Jalan Cheras Batu 4 - Stadium Badminton
21. Taman Midah Cheras Roundabout - Tesco Extra Cheras
22. Taman Segar - Cheras Leisure Mall
23. Taman Connaught - Plaza Phoenix
24. Cheras Batu 9 - Kampung Sungai Raya
25. Kampung Batu 11 - Grand Saga Toll
26. Balakong - Aeon Cheras Selatan
27. Bandar Tun Hussein Onn

The alignment, made available to The Star, showed the new line running from Kota Damansara along Persiaran Surian to the Damansara-Puchong Expressway and then heading towards the city centre along the Sprint Expressway, through Bangsar Baru and Jalan Bangsar.

It will then run parallel to the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line (formerly Putra-LRT) to KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek before heading to the Golden Triangle along Jalan Raja Chulan.

The route will then pass Pasar Rakyat in Bukit Bintang and then Jalan Tun Razak where it will join Jalan Cheras.

It will continue along the road and the Cheras-Kajang Expressway to the Balakong interchange near Cheras Batu 11.

Passengers will be able to switch with the existing Kelana Jaya LRT line at Bangsar, KL Sentral, Pasar Seni and Masjid Jamek; and the Ampang LRT line (formerly Star-LRT) at Masjid Jamek and Maluri.

There will be around 30 stations along the line, including the interchange stations.

[erwinkarim]

It may be a better idea to have the line tunnel from PBD to the other end where the exit portal is proposed. Would you think it would be better for them to split the project into two phases, each to be commissioned separately? For example, taking Sungai Buloh to NU KL Sentral as stage 1 and NU KL Sentral to Cheras as stage 2, stage 1 could begin construction earlier and have its own team to work on the project. It could have its own theme for station designs to revolve around, meeting certain standard criteria set - for instance, location of elevators and escalators to provide disabled friendliness.

Stage 2 could also have its own team and start construction perhaps a year later, allowing the section to be commissioned a year later too. Similarly, it could have station designs revolving around a theme unique to this section. With different commissioning dates, the line might be able to be implemented quicker than if the project were undertaken at an entire stretch. Turn around facilities could be provided at key stations, especially along the underground stretch as well, should there be a service disruption that may affect the underground portion. The current KJL does not have cross-over facilities in its underground section which may impede operations if a disruption occurs at any of those 5 stations.

kelana jaya line was opened in 2 stages: kelana jaya to pasar seni in sept '98 and pasar seni to gombak in june 99'

this was the case in ampang line. it was open in stages, first ampang-sultan ismail, then chan sow line to sri petaling and finally sultan ismail to sentul.

ktm komuter was also gone the same pattern: first was kl-rawang, which later to extended to salak selatan. then it was sentul-shah alam which later extended to klang. and you would know, new stations was added (kl sentrla, kepong sentral, midvalley), rawang open up shuttle to tanjung malim, now we are waiting for rolling stock to take us to ipoh and latter butterworth.

i think they will do it in several packages, just which one opens up first. i'm placing my bets on kd-kl sentral as the development there is much more planned so resolving land issues should be faster than kl sentral-cheras route...

[allurban]

It may be a better idea to have the line tunnel from PBD to the other end where the exit portal is proposed. Would you think it would be better for them to split the project into two phases, each to be commissioned separately? For example, taking Sungai Buloh to NU KL Sentral as stage 1 and NU KL Sentral to Cheras as stage 2, stage 1 could begin construction earlier and have its own team to work on the project. It could have its own theme for station designs to revolve around, meeting certain standard criteria set - for instance, location of elevators and escalators to provide disabled friendliness.

Stage 2 could also have its own team and start construction perhaps a year later, allowing the section to be commissioned a year later too. Similarly, it could have station designs revolving around a theme unique to this section. With different commissioning dates, the line might be able to be implemented quicker than if the project were undertaken at an entire stretch. Turn around facilities could be provided at key stations, especially along the underground stretch as well, should there be a service disruption that may affect the underground portion. The current KJL does not have cross-over facilities in its underground section which may impede operations if a disruption occurs at any of those 5 stations.I suggested to Prasarana that they build the line in 3 phases:

1) PBD to Maluri (the central section)
2) Eastwards extension to Cheras
3) north-west extension to Kota Damansara or Sg. Buloh

The reason is because the central section (which should be 100% tunnel) is the one that is desperately needed - it goes through the centre of KL and is going to service many vital spots.

The other sections of the line would have bus extender service - buses that would follow the proposed route of the line - to help build up demand on the route while construction of the LRT/MRT is taking place.

The Eastwards extension to Cheras comes up 2nd on the list because there are fewer available highway connections to Cheras, meaning there are fewer opportunities for feeder bus and extender bus services.

The north-west extension to Kota Damansara and Sg. Buloh comes up last because the route would travel along the Sprint Highway and through TTDI and then follow the LDP and Persiaran Surian - these roads are pretty much free flowing roads with less traffic congestion and bus extender service would be able to run frequently while construction is taking place.

In the underground section there needs to be crossovers and pocket tracks at KL Sentral and Pasar Seni and Bukit Bintang to allow for shuttle train services and to bring trains into service for the evening peak hours.

The KD segment of the line should have crossovers and pocket tracks at Pusat Bandar Damansara, 1 Utama and Sg. Buloh. Not sure about the Cheras segment tho.

Cheers, m

[rizalhakim]

Kemudahan LRT khusus di Petaling Jaya

DAMANSARA PERDANA 23 Ogos - Penduduk sekitar Petaling Jaya yang selama ini sering berhadapan dengan masalah kesesakan lalu lintas boleh menarik nafas lega berikutan cadangan Datuk Bandar Petaling Jaya, Datuk Mohamad Roslan Sakiman untuk mewujudkan kemudahan Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT).

Cadangan itu dimaklumkan oleh beliau pada sidang akhbar majlis perasmian Wan's Avenue dan penyerahan kunci kepada pembeli projek Neo Damansara di sini baru-baru ini.

"Masalah kesesakan lalu lintas ini memang berlaku di mana-mana kawasan pihak berkuasa tempatan (PBT).

"Kami sekarang ini dalam langkah terakhir untuk menyelesaikan masalah kesesakan yang berlaku, malah kami juga telah melantik perunding lalu lintas untuk mengkaji masalah kesesakan lalu lintas sekitar kawasan Petaling Jaya.

"Kajian itu termasuklah di kawasan ini (Damansara) yang masih lagi kekurangan perkhidmatan kemudahan awam," katanya.

Turut hadir pada majlis pelancaran itu Pengerusi Kumpulan Emkay, Tan Sri Mustapha Kamal Abu Bakar dan Pengarah Urusan Bank Rakyat, Datuk Kamarulzaman Che Mat.

Beliau berkata, peruntukan untuk menjalankan kajian itu juga telah diberikan oleh Majlis Bandaraya Petaling Jaya (MBPJ).

Tambahnya, cadangan itu juga akan dibawa kepada perhatian Kementerian Pengangkutan untuk membuat tindakan selanjutnya.

"Masalah-masalah seperti ini sepatutnya diselesaikan bersama-sama dengan kementerian dan bukan hanya bergantung kepada PBT sahaja.

"Ini juga untuk elakkan kesesakan lalu lintas di sini dan memperbanyakkan lagi kemudahan perkhidmatan awam," ujarnya

Kata Roslan, rasionalnya cadangan beliau ialah untuk memastikan kawasan di Petaling Jaya yang kini pesat membangun mempunyai sistem pengangkutan yang paling baik.

Tambahnya lagi, pihak Emkay juga telah membuat permohonan untuk merealisasikan cadangan itu.

"Saya diberitahu Tan Sri tadi, bahawa pihaknya amat menyokong tindakan yang diambil MBPJ untuk mewujudkan kemudahan perkhidmatan awam di sini.

"Malah beliau sendiri memberitahu akan membina sendiri stesen untuk orang ramai datang ke sini dengan kos yang ditanggung oleh syarikatnya," katanya.

Sementara itu, projek Neo Damansara yang dibangunkan dalam tiga fasa melibatkan pembangunan 1,087 unit kedai, pejabat, ruang pameran, lot-lot komersial, menara pejabat dan plaza F&B.

Fasa pertama yang kini dikenali sebagai Wan's Avenue mempunyai lot komersial dengan keluasan kira-kira 430,000 kaki persegi dan ia bakal menjadi daya tarikan utama kepada pengunjung ke Neo Damansara.

[rizalhakim]

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/jijm25/Article/

He was speaking to reporters after the group's annual and extraordinary general meetings in Subang Jaya yesterday.

Some projects IJM Corp is eyeing include the new permanent low-cost carrier terminal in Sepang and the light rail transit (LRT) extension works in Kuala Lumpur.

"We do a broad range of work from civil engineering works to building. You will see us participating where there are sizeable jobs," said Tan, adding that the company was bidding for works here and abroad.

Tan said tenders for both the LCCT and LRT projects have yet to be called.

"For the LCCT, the pre-qualification process has been called and we have also submitted. We will look to bid for the sizeable packages (once the tender is open)," he said.

[allurban]

Kemudahan LRT khusus di Petaling Jaya

DAMANSARA PERDANA 23 Ogos - Penduduk sekitar Petaling Jaya yang selama ini sering berhadapan dengan masalah kesesakan lalu lintas boleh menarik nafas lega berikutan cadangan Datuk Bandar Petaling Jaya, Datuk Mohamad Roslan Sakiman untuk mewujudkan kemudahan Sistem Transit Aliran Ringan (LRT).

translate the article, please...at least the main points.

Cheers, m

[patchay]

BREAKING NEWS

According to NTV7 the proposed extension (KJ and SP line) will be revealed to the public for feedback starting tomorrow!!!

[nazrey]

BREAKING NEWS

According to NTV7 the proposed extension (KJ and SP line) will be revealed to the public for feedback starting tomorrow!!!

Thread ni untuk new line of KD-Cheras line ...btw this is the thread/news update for extension line>>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=772140&page=4

Feedback for LRT extension sought
Published: 2009/09/14

Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd (SPNB) will display for three months the proposed alignment for the LRT extension line project for both Kelana Jaya and Ampang beginning tomorrow.

During this period, the public may give their constructive feedback on the project by visiting the designated locations or visit the dedicated website set up for the purpose.

Its managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed said the proposed Ampang Line LRT extension will begin from the Sri Petaling station, passing through Kinrara and Puchong areas before ending at Putra Heights, covering a distance of 17.7 km with 13 new stations.

The proposed Kelana Jaya LRT extension will begin from the Kelana Jaya station itself and pass through 13 new stations, including Subang Jaya and USJ, before ending at Putra Heights covering a distance of 17 km. -- Bernama

[Dr Jake]

Haiyoo, next year baru ader citer pasal KDC line. Sigh.

[patchay]

aiyo malu me see wrong thread

[patchay]

I realise this line will pass through 3 great malls

1 Utama - Nu Sentral - Pavilion KL

[nazrey]

I will surprise if this line also will pass Damansara City Project at Damansara Height ?

[allurban]

I will surprise if this line also will pass Damansara City Project at Damansara Height ?Not exactly closeby but it will be within 8-10 minutes levelwalking distance ....

also they are looking at an alignment passing Bangar Shopping Centre & Bangsar Village.

So that makes 6 malls, also it will end at Plaza Phoenix (7 malls)

Cheers, m

[patchay]

- TheCURVE/IKEA/IKANO/Tesco (Mutiara Damansara)
- 1 Utama
- Bangsar Shopping Centre
- Bangsar Village
- Nu Sentral
- Pavilion KL
- Sungei Wang/Imbi/Low Yat
- Berjaya Times Square
- Cheras Leisure Mall (Taman Segar)
- Plaza Phoneix (Taman Connaught)
- Tesco Extra Cheras (Taman Midah)
- Aeon Cheras Selatan (Balakong)

why not connect to MINES Seri Kembangan area too????

[triple-j]

wow...can call this shopping line...

[nazrey]

Ada IKEA/IKANO/Tesco..masti ada The Curve lagi lerrr!

[patchay]

Ada IKEA/IKANO/Tesco..masti ada The Curve lagi lerrr!

oooops terlupa

[erwinkarim]

wow...can call this shopping line...

yeah, esp for plaza phoenix. it is currently in the "hidup segan, mati tak mau" stage...

[rizalhakim]

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

[erwinkarim]

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

last time i've been there, there is a proton dealship. don't know about that now...

[Arkdriver]

jalan kat depan plaza pheonix tu dah siap ke

[Dr Jake]

Tak siap lagi. Next year kot.

[Dr Jake]

I'm hoping that the name for our rapid transit will be changed to RapidKL Metro. RapidKL LRT sounds too cheap and looks Singaporean sgt sgt. This new line will utilize MRT rolling stocks. Let's generalize these LRT and MRT into Metro. Just my 2 cent thought jer.

[PlanetNova]

- TheCURVE/IKEA/IKANO/Tesco (Mutiara Damansara)
- 1 Utama
- Bangsar Shopping Centre
- Bangsar Village
- Nu Sentral
- Pavilion KL
- Sungei Wang/Imbi/Low Yat
- Berjaya Times Square
- Cheras Leisure Mall (Taman Segar)
- Plaza Phoneix (Taman Connaught)
- Tesco Extra Cheras (Taman Midah)
- Aeon Cheras Selatan (Balakong)

why not connect to MINES Seri Kembangan area too????

Should also connect the line to KLCC, since it will reach Pavilion.

[thewallpart6]

Tak siap lagi. Next year kot.

I am not so optimistic though. It was almost the same as 3 years ago when I first moved to Bdr. Sg. Long.

[thewallpart6]

- TheCURVE/IKEA/IKANO/Tesco (Mutiara Damansara)
- 1 Utama
- Bangsar Shopping Centre
- Bangsar Village
- Nu Sentral
- Pavilion KL
- Sungei Wang/Imbi/Low Yat
- Berjaya Times Square
- Cheras Leisure Mall (Taman Segar)
- Plaza Phoneix (Taman Connaught)
- Tesco Extra Cheras (Taman Midah)
- Aeon Cheras Selatan (Balakong)

why not connect to MINES Seri Kembangan area too????

A newly open Carrefour is in Bdr. Tun Hussein Onn, not too far away from Aeon Cheras Selatan

[allurban]

I'm hoping that the name for our rapid transit will be changed to RapidKL Metro. RapidKL LRT sounds too cheap and looks Singaporean sgt sgt. This new line will utilize MRT rolling stocks. Let's generalize these LRT and MRT into Metro. Just my 2 cent thought jer.LRT was never an appropriate term - 'mini-metro' or 'light metro' is more appropriate given the design and engineering required.

However, 'Metro' is not a term that Malaysians are familiar with, and 'MRT' will be seen as copying Singapore (good & bad connotations). Whatever Rapid & Prasarana change the name to, people will still call it the "LRT"... they still call the lines "Star" and "putra" even though those names changed long ago (and will change soon).....

Subway is an underground walkway in UK English so I don't think it is appropriate for a mostly elevated system.

Probably RapidKL will adopt the MRT term for the main LRT lines and LRT for the other lines (monorails, people movers).

Also consider that the official designation has to be changed with the Department of Railways ... that means new regulations, new certificates, etc.

Cheers, m

[Dr Jake]

Bombardier is going to bid for their rolling stocks. The latest Metro, Movia C951, has been ordered by Singapore MRT for its new all underground line.

Movia C951 taken from Bombardier.com
http://www.bombardier.com/files/en/supporting_docs/image_and_media/products/BT-4115-Metro-Singapore_Downtown_Line.jpg

Hahaha, I could speculate that Bombardier's bid will fail kot. Maybe the gov will opt for other rolling stocks from Spain (CAF) or Japan or maybe Siemens from Germany.

[dcOhiney]

Bombardier is going to bid for their rolling stocks. The latest Metro, Movia C951, has been ordered by Singapore MRT for its new all underground line.

Movia C951 taken from Bombardier.com
http://www.bombardier.com/files/en/supporting_docs/image_and_media/products/BT-4115-Metro-Singapore_Downtown_Line.jpg

Hahaha, I could speculate that Bombardier's bid will fail kot. Maybe the gov will opt for other rolling stocks from Spain (CAF) or Japan or maybe Siemens from Germany.

Do we reeally need different rolling stocks for different line?

[szehoong]

- TheCURVE/IKEA/IKANO/Tesco (Mutiara Damansara)
- 1 Utama
- Bangsar Shopping Centre
- Bangsar Village
- Nu Sentral
- Pavilion KL
- Sungei Wang/Imbi/Low Yat
- Berjaya Times Square
- Cheras Leisure Mall (Taman Segar)
- Plaza Phoneix (Taman Connaught)
- Tesco Extra Cheras (Taman Midah)
- Aeon Cheras Selatan (Balakong)

why not connect to MINES Seri Kembangan area too????

its a bit too far lar.......although it make economic sense. Many along the way like those industrial park (like tanming jaya etc) have high ridership (many foreigners) :yes:

I do not consider Plaza Phoenix a shopping mall worth mentioning here as it ceases to be one a long time ago.



yeah, esp for plaza phoenix. it is currently in the "hidup segan, mati tak mau" stage...

i tot plaza phoenix closed already....masih hidup meh????

last time i've been there, there is a proton dealship. don't know about that now...

Yes...the Proton dealership is still there and it is the only shop operating from the 'shopping mall'.

jalan kat depan plaza pheonix tu dah siap ke

Not yet.........give it another year or so. I think the tunnel is near completion :yes:

[Dr Jake]

It's pretty sad when they said the terminus would end somewhere in Balakong. I hope they will extend this line further to Kajang town and end up in Kajang Komuter Station in the future considering 400 000 people live in Kajang and half of them come form middle income group.

[Dr Jake]

Do we reeally need different rolling stocks for different line?

KCL will pass through a high density area. Simple rapid transit like Bombardier ART II will not be able to accomodate these numbers. :)

[allurban]

KCL will pass through a high density area. Simple rapid transit like Bombardier ART II will not be able to accomodate these numbers. :) and what are those numbers? Why not an 8carriage version of the ART Mark II train?

Cheers, m

[Dr Jake]

TBH, I've never seen ART Mark II in 8 cars configuration. 4 cars at the max. That's why Prasarana told that they're going to use the so called "MRT" rolling stocks for KCL line. I've concluded that ART Mark II are only capable at its max of 4 cars configuration set.

[TWK90]

I believe the ART Mark II design do not have limit on how long it should be...

MRT is more suitable for higher number of ridership because of its width...more than 3 metres

[Dr Jake]

Then again, I really hate to use the term "MRT". We'll see next year there will be competition between rolling stock manufacturers bidding for KCL line from ALSTOM, CAF, Siemens, Bombardier, Hitachi to Rotem and many more. This gotta be an interesting story.

[TWK90]

^^

Why hate the term "MRT"?

[Dr Jake]

MRT is originated from Singapore. Since ASEAN (Bangkok and Manila) started copying this term from SG why should we follow them? Generic term like Metro is a more proper way to address all types of transit. LRT??? Omg people has already been confused by this term. But thank god we have RapidKL to reduce the effect of copying, we borrowed LRT and put RapidKL at the beginning. Pretty convenient huh? So much for the originality.:)

[TWK90]

As long as the rail network is properly designed, planned and meets the needs of the population, i don't bother the name...

The arguement of being "orginal" like MRT or LRT or even Metro, do not matter...

I doubt people will be confused of LRT and MRT (if it is constructed), simply because MRT capacity is larger and the difference can be easily noticed...

If you still bother the name, perhaps "Rapid Transit Line" is more proper, haha

[Dr Jake]

Nah, I just call it RapidKL Kelana Jaya/Ampang/Sri Petaling. Wow, that's so exhausing :lol:
This is the first time I've seen a full page forum without any news ad.:nuts:

[Lastresorter]

LRT was never an appropriate term - 'mini-metro' or 'light metro' is more appropriate given the design and engineering required.

However, 'Metro' is not a term that Malaysians are familiar with, and 'MRT' will be seen as copying Singapore (good & bad connotations). Whatever Rapid & Prasarana change the name to, people will still call it the "LRT"... they still call the lines "Star" and "putra" even though those names changed long ago (and will change soon).....

Subway is an underground walkway in UK English so I don't think it is appropriate for a mostly elevated system.

Probably RapidKL will adopt the MRT term for the main LRT lines and LRT for the other lines (monorails, people movers).

Also consider that the official designation has to be changed with the Department of Railways ... that means new regulations, new certificates, etc.

Cheers, m

I call them "trains" ;) simple and includes all form of rail transits...

[Lastresorter]

MRT is originated from Singapore. Since ASEAN (Bangkok and Manila) started copying this term from SG why should we follow them? Generic term like Metro is a more proper way to address all types of transit. LRT??? Omg people has already been confused by this term. But thank god we have RapidKL to reduce the effect of copying, we borrowed LRT and put RapidKL at the beggining. Pretty convenient huh? So much for the originality.:)

I'm thinking we can use just "trains" ;) RapidKL Tren mebbe. Metro should include buses as well, no?

Or we can copy "MTR" of HK - change it to LTR (Long-term relationship) :lol:

[Dr Jake]

LTR:lol::lol::lol:

[Dr Jake]

I'm thinking we can use just "trains" ;) RapidKL Tren mebbe. Metro should include buses as well, no?

Or we can copy "MTR" of HK - change it to LTR (Long-term relationship) :lol:

Train is too general tho. We're talking about urban rapid transit:). But still, I'm so excited about this whole new extension line news.:cheers:

[thewallpart6]

or lousy train ride

[patchay]

just name it RapidKL METRO like Dubai Metro. And I suggest change those Kelana Jaya Line to just Red/Blue/Green Line to simplify for foreigners and outstation Malaysians. The 2 LRT lines should be upgraded to MRT together with new KDCheras MRT line.


RapidKL METRO (3 mrt lines) ::: RapidKL Monorail ::: RapidKL Commuter (KTM Komuter) :::: KLIA Express/Transit ::: RapidKL (busses)

[allurban]

just name it RapidKL METRO like Dubai Metro. And I suggest change those Kelana Jaya Line to just Red/Blue/Green Line to simplify for foreigners and outstation Malaysians. The 2 LRT lines should be upgraded to MRT together with new KDCheras MRT line.


RapidKL METRO (3 mrt lines) ::: RapidKL Monorail ::: RapidKL Commuter (KTM Komuter) :::: KLIA Express/Transit ::: RapidKL (busses)Prasarana wants to position the "Rapid" (Rangkaian Pengangkutan Integrasi Deras / Rapid Integrated Transport Network) as the "brand" for urban public transport in Malaysia

(like Singapore's LTA or Paris' RER or Vancouver's TransLink or Toronto's Metrolinx ... or the greatest of them all, Transport for London)

Prasarana has taken over the strategic planning from RapidKL to allow the company to concentrate on operations ... eventually they can privatise RapidKL and keep the "rapid" brand.

So they are looking to make all of their services 'rapid' ... buses, LRT, monorail ... everything will have the rapid 'r' logo and corporate colours of red, blue & white.

You can see that they have already started painting the stations in those colours (except they replaced white with grey because it stands up to the rain & climate much better than white)

Er. but strangely enough, they repainted the KL Monorail stations in orange ... I dont know when they plan to integrate the monorail under the Rapid brand. And I dont think they will integrate the Langkawi Cable Car with the 'rapid' brand anytime soon. :nuts:

It also makes sense to integrate the Komuter service and urban buses under the 'rapid' brand ...

In the short term, 'rapid' could 'contract out' the extra bus services to the existing bus companies and komuter trains to KTMB. The bus operations would have to use the rapid blue & red colours (like London operators have to follow the London 'red bus' colours) but they could keep their own corporate logos (like the London red buses)

Cheers, m

[Dr Jake]

That's why that name, RapidKL should stay:banana:. We group the so called "LRT" and future MRT into one group, METRO. As for KTM Komuter, it's a regional train, so I personally think it doesn't reflect KL urban rapid transit at all. To label LRT for Ampang line and Kelana Jaya is totally wrong. Ampang Line uses a high/medium capacity metro (ADTRANZ) and Kelana Jaya Line uses a low capacity metro (ART Mark II). :)

RapidKL Monorail
RapidKL Metro Ampang Line/line 1/blue line
RapidKL Metro Kelana Jaya Line/line 2/red line

:cheers:

[lohxy]

Salem, please note that it is not my design - this line was already made available on google earth and can be saved to the "my places" feature on Google Earth. Also, please note that the proposal in the Star may me different from the final design.

To look at your questions, first we need to know, what does "fully integrated" mean to you? Does it mean that the lines will share the same track and platform? Or be built on different levels?

Bangsar LRT will be close to the MRT but it will be a tight fit

KL Monorail and the MRT will both be connected to NU Sentral by a bridge. At present the design for the MRT is to be elevated through brickfields - the portal for the tunnel will be near the Brickfields YMCA ... However, according to the Prasarana MD, they would be happy to tunnel from Pusat Bandar Damansara through Bangsar and Brickfields and KL - but the cost would be much much higher.

I do not think the MRT will reach Masjid Jamek but it may come close to the south end of Pasar Seni

I expect there will be a station at Jalan Raja Chulan and Jalan Sultan Ismail but I do not know if the MRT will go around Pavillion or reach Imbi and Hang Tuah as shown in the aerial photo.

Sorry I have no more info than that...

Cheers, m
where 2 get the feature?
And the tunnel I suspect that they build under a busy way
This may occur accident like Singapore's Nicoll Highway Collapse
But I hope that the construction is safe

[allurban]

where 2 get the feature?
And the tunnel I suspect that they build under a busy way
This may occur accident like Singapore's Nicoll Highway Collapse
But I hope that the construction is safebasically, open up google earth and there is a "my places" feature that is built in for you. Initially it is set to include places that you can see using google earth.

You would have to save a data file to add a new map or your own map.

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

Rail Network In Klang Valley To Be Expanded
October 15, 2009 17:32 PM

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 15 (Bernama) -- More trains will be added in the Klang Valley to meet the government's goal to raise the use of public transport from 16 per cent now to 25 per cent by 2012, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat said Thursday.

The target for Penang and Johor Baharu would be set later, he said in his speech read out by his ministry's Deputy Secretary-General (Planning) Datuk Long See Wool at the national summit on ubran public transport.

"Our immediate focus is to enhance the capacity, service levels, coverage, and connectivity for all modes of public transport, with particular emphasis on elevating the role of rail as the backbone of urban public transport," he said.

Ong said that with only 19km of track per million population, rail coverage in the Klang Valley was low compared with other major cities of the world and the existing three railway systems and stage buses which handled 260,000 passenger trips in the morning rush hour were overcrowded.

"For our commuters living along the Ipoh-Rawang line, four new electric trains sets (ETS) will be introduced between December this year and March next year."

He said RM200 million had been allocated to purchase 10 sets of electric multiple units (EMU) for KTM Berhad due to increasing passenger load through the Klang Valley.

For the congested Kelana Jaya LRT line, the government planned to add 10 new trains with four cars by end of this year.

"We will continue to put into service additional four-car sets in batches until all 35 are operational by 2012. By then, our current capacity of 25 trains with 70 cars will grow to 70 trains with 210 cars," he said.

By 2012, the LRT line from Kelana Jaya would be extended to Putra Heights via Subang Jaya and the Ampang-Sri Petaling serice would be extended to Puchong and also end in Putra Heights.

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.

"The LRT line extensions and new line will increase our rail coverage in the Klang Valley to 32km per million population," Ong added.

He said the delivery taskforce on public transport would be tasked to make further improvements to the Klang Valley public transport system and would immediately focus on revamping bus services, more inter-modal hubs, rail capacity, feeder network and integrated ticketing.

Outside the Klang Valley, the electrified double tracking project from Ipoh to Padang Besar in the north, and Seremban to Gemas in the South, were being completed.

Ong said that under the national key result area (N-KRA), the project would be extended from Gemas to Johor Baharu very soon.

A Land Public Transport Commission would be set up to ensure integrated policy, planning and implementation would be carried out in a more cohesive manner, he added.

-- BERNAMA

[rizalhakim]

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[Johson]

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.


I very confuse , it is LRT or MRT line ?

[tunomura]

A new LRT line from Kota Damansara to Cheras covering 42.8 km was being studied.


I very confuse , it is LRT or MRT line ?

^^MRT

[sparrow1]

Is there a route map with the new proposed KD-C MRT line integrated with the existing rail network. Where are the interchange between lines.

Will the KD-C line be mostly underground?

[lohxy]

fast fast build then we can go 1 utama and mutiara damansara by train

[allurban]

Is there a route map with the new proposed KD-C MRT line integrated with the existing rail network. Where are the interchange between lines.

Will the KD-C line be mostly underground?er...sparrow did you see post #1 in this thread?

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg

Not sure how accurate this is at the moment though. The underground portion is planned to be from the Brickfields YMCA to Maluri.

If it were me it would be a bit different tho :)

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/6/15/nation/n_01railtrack.jpg



Tengok sekali lagi nampaknya stesen masjid jamek akan jadi stesen integrate terbaru untuk 3 line di satu tempat!!! Hmmmm...

[allurban]

Tengok sekali lagi nampaknya stesen masjid jamek akan jadi stesen integrate terbaru untuk 3 line di satu tempat!!! Hmmmm...hahahah I didnt say it was an accurate route map! :lol: But it is one of only 2 that I have seen for the KD-C line.

Cheers, m

[sparrow1]

er...sparrow did you see post #1 in this thread?

Cheers, m

thks!..yeah..notice it, but just wondering if there is one similar to post#91, with the new KD-C line in it. It will be interesting to see the integration of the exisitng and new line

[allurban]

thks!..yeah..notice it, but just wondering if there is one similar to post#91, with the new KD-C line in it. It will be interesting to see the integration of the exisitng and new linewell, there is the other map by Fikir Runding. Also slightly inaccurate but more like a route map.

Anyone have a copy that they can share here?

Cheers, m

[sparrow1]

this is the seoul subway map..we can use as reference.

http://www.smrt.co.kr/Train/Subwaymap/Eng/Subwaymap.jsp

you can zoom in by clicking on the "zoom in" button

[Dr Jake]

hahahah I didnt say it was an accurate route map! :lol: But it is one of only 2 that I have seen for the KD-C line.

Cheers, m

I don't think the underground route will pass thru masjid jamek station because from what I've been told previously the underground track will start from Brickfields and end up somewhere in BB.

Now with the completion of KDC line in 2014 the Fed should make plans for loop tracks within the core city like circle line or whatever.:cheers:

[patchay]

this is the seoul subway map..we can use as reference.

http://www.smrt.co.kr/Train/Subwaymap/Eng/Subwaymap.jsp

you can zoom in by clicking on the "zoom in" button


wowww their system is HUGEEEE

[allurban]

I don't think the underground route will pass thru masjid jamek station because from what I've been told previously the underground track will start from Brickfields and end up somewhere in BB.

Now with the completion of KDC line in 2014 the Fed should make plans for loop tracks within the core city like circle line or whatever.:cheers:Actually, methinks the best way would be to bring it into KL directly without going to KL Sentral/NU Sentral


option 1) along Jalan Parliamen in a tunnel...then move south under Dataran Merdeka, Dayabumi and the Central Market...I think the best place for an integrated station (LRT + KTM + new line) would be Pasar Seni/Kuala Lumpur stations.

From there, follow Jalan Raja Chulan towards Jalan Tun Razak

option 2) pass the Lake Gardens then to Jalan Sultan Ismail, travel underneath Jalan Sultan Ismail to Jalan Raja Abdullah, then down to Raja Chulan.

This would allow interchanges at Sultan Ismail station (for the LRT), Medan Tuanku station (monorail), Dang Wangi (LRT), Raja Chulan (monorail again)

Cheers, m

[dengilo]

Allurban of the 2 preposed so called LRT projects for KL ,i suspect this one will take a while
to get it going ha?Are the canadians in the picture this time around?

[allurban]

Allurban of the 2 preposed so called LRT projects for KL ,i suspect this one will take a while
to get it going ha?Are the canadians in the picture this time around?I think everyone is in the picture because they are planning to build it at MRT capacity.

Bombardier, ALSTOM, ROTEM, Mistubishi, Siemens, they can all try & compete

Generally methinks that Bombardier has the 'inside track' (pun intended) because they have contracts for the other LRT lines. I guess it depends on what the response is for the purchase of additional trainsets for the Ampang Line....

Cheers, m

[dengilo]

I think ur right allurban besides i SPN they still owe them some money ha ha.Thanks dude

[nazrey]

LRT lines bring smiles, and fears
Sunday, 27 December 2009 00:00
Source: http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/1030-cityacountry-cover-story-lrt-boost-for-real-estate.html
...

SPNB group managing director Datuk Idrose Mohamed has reportedly said that more details on the proposed new line to link Kota Damansara and Cheras will be revealed this month.

The Kota Damansara-Cheras line is expected to stretch about 50km, longer than the 45km that had been reported earlier. There will also be an underground portion that is said to run about 10km, but could eventually be longer.

...

[khosim]

^^^^yeayy!! good news tho

[pedang]

ohoho.. cant wait for this :banana:

[dengilo]

The Kota Damansara-Cheras line is expected to stretch about 50km, longer than the 45km that had been reported earlier. There will also be an underground portion that is said to run about 10km, but could eventually be longer.

Wow thats trully good news by the way do we need bomb shelter like singapore
for our underground stations:lol:My only hope is that the new underground station will benefit the golden triangle,bukit bintang and somehow link to the tasik selatan terminal:cheers:

[lohxy]

The train must be flexible. VERY

[lohxy]

..

[bukhrin]

If they're going to do it on an MRT scale,

can we have something like the Budapest Metro's Alstom Metropolis :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChgq0NTU20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZ2OIQLrt0

btw, it's the same train platform as the Singapore's NEL and CCL.

[lohxy]

nice video!

[bukhrin]

Is this project dead already ?

[lohxy]

not actually dead but just no news

[XNeo]

does anyone know the proposed location for kota damansara station ?.

[lohxy]

I think it is close to the exit from the kota damansara toll.
About the interchange of persiaran kenaga and persiaran surian...

[XNeo]

I think it is close to the exit from the kota damansara toll.
About the interchange of persiaran kenaga and persiaran surian...

oo ok.
tk for the info.

:)

[dengilo]

Yes the extension of the 2 lines should go ahead but this one is more important and yet we dont hear much about it ha?

[bukhrin]

My wishlist for the KD-Cheras line

- platform provision for 6 X 4-doors-cars 3 meters+ wide trainsets :p
- barrier free stations' layouts
- make up their mind about future planning
- construct spare station boxes for (future) underground interchange stations
- properly integrated with the existing lines
- make it an automated system

I can only dream, sigh.

[bukhrin]

My wishlist for the KD-Cheras line

- platform provision for 6 X 4-doors-cars 3 meters+ wide trainsets :p
- barrier free stations' layouts
- make up their mind about future planning
- construct spare station boxes for (future) underground interchange stations
- properly integrated with the existing lines
- make it an automated system

I can only dream, sigh.

[project aliciel]

My wishlist for the KD-Cheras line

- platform provision for 6 X 4-doors-cars 3 meters+ wide trainsets :p
- barrier free stations' layouts
- make up their mind about future planning
- construct spare station boxes for (future) underground interchange stations
- properly integrated with the existing lines
- make it an automated system

I can only dream, sigh.

dream more, like:

all stations include elevated and at-grade stations are air conditioned, and aesthetic, like Dubai.

Cheers... :cheers:

[lohxy]

But don't follow how they divide the train into many classes.

[dengilo]

Everything that u ever want in the system is just south of the border!Just that we dont have to go overboard,Keep the cost down.If we half of what singapores MRT i am ok with it.

[lohxy]

WE also can learn from Taipei Metro. Their over ground stations are air conditioned and full of arts...

[bukhrin]

I'd rather get the functional things right first before the artsy ones.

[dengilo]

There u go i 1000% agree as long as its clean and comfortable thats all that matters the most.

[thewallpart6]

no homeless people sleeping around, peeing or begging for money (pasar seni)

[XNeo]

From wikipedia, the LRT last station will be at Kota Damansara from bangsar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kota_Damansara-Cheras_Line

no station in mutiara damansara?

[lohxy]

There are station at mutiara damansara. Pesiaran Surian is the only link to connect LDP to kota damansara easily.

[XNeo]

There are station at mutiara damansara. Pesiaran Surian is the only link to connect LDP to kota damansara easily.

thats good.
traffic towards mutiara damansara really congested during weekend or holiday.

[project aliciel]

as long as artistic elements not a financial burden for commuters (that means government pay for it), it's ok for me. KL needs artwork in public. art is soul of a community, city, and state; do it when country is rich.

malaysian government is very rich. buy two laptops by RM80k. artworks in metro system means nothing to the government. give malaysian artists / interior designers / archithect chance to perform, and show the spirit and culture of malaysian both in traditional and modern arts.