There's been rumour and speculations about Dynamo and Arsenal building a joint football stadium, this is apparently it:

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Ukrainian only, sorry

Плоша забудови 32000 м.кв
Загальна площа 9000 м.кв

Сучасний футбольний стадіон на 50 тисяч глядачів входить
до спортивного комплексу, який буде розташовано на
території колишнього танкового заводу, нині ремонтної
бази Міністерства оборони України. Стадіон прилягає своїми
межами до вулиці Бориспільської та граничить з
автомобільною дорогою, що підходить з півдня до майбутньої
станції метро Червоний Хутір. Фундаменти — пальові,
залізобетонні, перерізом 350 х 350 мм, загальної довжини
до 22 м, по серии 1.011.1-10, на сульфатостійкому цементі.
Ростверки — монолитні, залізобетонні. Для розподілу
горизонтальних від покриття зусиль між палями в кожному
поперечнику (на прямих ділянках трибун), на рівні
ростверків передбачаються залізобетонні розпори перерізом
500 х 500 мм. Каркас (колони, ригелі, перекриття) —
монолітний залізобетонний. Колони — перерізом 600 х 800
мм, балки – перерізом 600 х 1200 мм, ригели перерізом 600
х 1400 мм, плита — товщиною 160 мм. (Взято по аналогу).
Складки трибун — збірні, залізобетонні Т-образного
перерізу, шириною 1040 мм, высотою 800 мм, індивідуального
виготовлення з гладкою поверхнею із бетона класу В 40.
Сходи-ступені — бетонні, із бетону класу В 30,
індивідуального виготовлення з обробленою зовнішньою
поверхнею, що укладаються поверх складок на розчині М 50.
Покриття — з металоконструкцій. Дахове покриття прийнято
багатошаровим і включає несучий перфорований профнастил
(для звукопоглинання, профіль ТП60-0,7), верхня плоска
листова покрівля товщиной 0,55 мм з металопласту.

http://www.tpk.ua/application/index.php/contest/projects/263/

looks currently more like a pre design.
Whats the chance to be built?

There's been rumour and speculations about Dynamo and Arsenal building a joint football stadium, this is apparently it:


Ukrainian only, sorry

Плоша забудови 32000 м.кв
Загальна площа 9000 м.кв

Сучасний футбольний стадіон на 50 тисяч глядачів входить
до спортивного комплексу, який буде розташовано на
території колишнього танкового заводу, нині ремонтної
бази Міністерства оборони України. Стадіон прилягає своїми
межами до вулиці Бориспільської та граничить з
автомобільною дорогою, що підходить з півдня до майбутньої
станції метро Червоний Хутір. Фундаменти — пальові,
залізобетонні, перерізом 350 х 350 мм, загальної довжини
до 22 м, по серии 1.011.1-10, на сульфатостійкому цементі.
Ростверки — монолитні, залізобетонні. Для розподілу
горизонтальних від покриття зусиль між палями в кожному
поперечнику (на прямих ділянках трибун), на рівні
ростверків передбачаються залізобетонні розпори перерізом
500 х 500 мм. Каркас (колони, ригелі, перекриття) —
монолітний залізобетонний. Колони — перерізом 600 х 800
мм, балки – перерізом 600 х 1200 мм, ригели перерізом 600
х 1400 мм, плита — товщиною 160 мм. (Взято по аналогу).
Складки трибун — збірні, залізобетонні Т-образного
перерізу, шириною 1040 мм, высотою 800 мм, індивідуального
виготовлення з гладкою поверхнею із бетона класу В 40.
Сходи-ступені — бетонні, із бетону класу В 30,
індивідуального виготовлення з обробленою зовнішньою
поверхнею, що укладаються поверх складок на розчині М 50.
Покриття — з металоконструкцій. Дахове покриття прийнято
багатошаровим і включає несучий перфорований профнастил
(для звукопоглинання, профіль ТП60-0,7), верхня плоска
листова покрівля товщиной 0,55 мм з металопласту.

http://www.tpk.ua/application/index.php/contest/projects/263/

Why don't you give us a summary about the article in English if it doesn't bother you?

very nice stadium

looks currently more like a pre design.
Whats the chance to be built?

The chance is quite good, because Dynamo has to upkeep its prestige level and not fall behind FC Shakhtar with their new world class stadium.

Arsenal, on the other hand, was bought by some big shot millionaire who has been talking about them getting a new stadium for a long time now. If both go at it together, there should be no reason for this not to happen. Can't say anything about the timing though.

32000 m2 total construction area
9000 m2 total area

Capacity 50,000 exactly.

Then it talks about the location and legal stuff about who owns the land and what is there now. It's a property of the ministry of defense now and will have to be sold by the government to make way for the stadium (that won't be fast, I guarantee).

The end is a lot of technical stuff for the cement, the foundation, the roof specifics etc. those are too difficult to translate :D let's wait for the English article

What's the typical attendance for these two clubs?

I don't really like the bubble thing

What's the typical attendance for these two clubs?

2007-2008
6 FK Dynamo Kyiv 8.383
10 FK Arsenal Kyiv 6.910

But of course a new stadium would really rise up the attendance.
It would be a big step forward from the 16000 track stadium on which the 2 teams play on.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/UKR/Valeriya_Lobanovskovo.html

Great stadium

2007-2008
6 FK Dynamo Kyiv 8.38310 FK Arsenal Kyiv 6.910

But of course a new stadium would really rise up the attendance.
It would be a big step forward from the 16000 track stadium on which the 2 teams play on.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/UKR/Valeriya_Lobanovskovo.html

Is this the big Dynamo Kiev??? shocking.

2007-2008
6 FK Dynamo Kyiv 8.383
10 FK Arsenal Kyiv 6.910

But of course a new stadium would really rise up the attendance.
It would be a big step forward from the 16000 track stadium on which the 2 teams play on.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/UKR/Valeriya_Lobanovskovo.html

even still, isn't 50K a bit overkill?

2007-2008
6 FK Dynamo Kyiv 8.383
10 FK Arsenal Kyiv 6.910

But of course a new stadium would really rise up the attendance.
It would be a big step forward from the 16000 track stadium on which the 2 teams play on.
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/UKR/Valeriya_Lobanovskovo.html

The attendances for this season are even worse:

11. FK Dynamo Kyiv 7,344 (12,500)
16. FK Arsenal Kyiv 1,925 (4,500)

The attendances for this season are even worse:

11. FK Dynamo Kyiv 7,344 (12,500)
16. FK Arsenal Kyiv 1,925 (4,500)

any known reason for the drop?

piece of quite recent interview:
Ukrainiansoccer.com:
Last week Arsenal president Vadym Rabinovych stated that there is progress in the process of obtaining a land lot for building a new Arsenal stadium and that he would not mind building the stadium together with you. What’s your opinion about building such an arena?

Ihor Surkis: I talked to Vadym about this and we discussed such an option. We will need to review the proposed concept. We should not separate ourselves into Dynamo and Arsenal – if we were to build this arena it would be for everyone in Kiev. Two relentless opponents – Milan and Inter are playing in the same arena and are able to share it.

We should develop the concept and make sure the pitch can handle the load. We should make sure that everything is provisioned for fans from Kiev and all of Ukraine. From this point of view, such a stadium is worth building. If we build it together, we can make it much more advanced, since we use the resources from both sides. Thus, I think, it’s absolutely normal.

http://www.ukrainiansoccer.net/?controller=publication&action=item&id=48364

For major games Dynamo can draw crowds over 50K, for regular games the attendance is low because of crappy stadiums, some hooligans and bad security. These things are undergoing major changes now. For instance at Donbass Arena there will be separate sectors for members of various fan clubs / ultras and for families that just want to enjoy a game.

Isnit Dynamo Kyiv going to play in the renovated Olympic Stadium??

The attendances for this season are even worse:

11. FK Dynamo Kyiv 7,344 (12,500)
16. FK Arsenal Kyiv 1,925 (4,500)

Maybe no derbies at home matches yet...

Isnit Dynamo Kyiv going to play in the renovated Olympic Stadium??

Only for finals when attendance will reach 80,000

any known reason for the drop?

Arsenal played in the Olympic Stadium but now its renovating and they have not an other good stadium in Kiev.
Arsenal had some attendances over 30k last season in the Olympic stadium...

Arsenal played in the Olympic Stadium but now its renovating and they have not an other good stadium in Kiev.
Arsenal had some attendances over 30k last season in the Olympic stadium...
So how come their overall attendance was at 7 000? Then there would have to be no crowd at all at some games (?)
or is the data produced by EFS wrong?

So how come their overall attendance was at 7 000? Then there would have to be no crowd at all at some games (?)
or is the data produced by EFS wrong?

I meant only a few matches over 30k attendance, so they have potential and fans...
I remember the biggest attendance in Ukraine last season was Arsenal - Zarya Lugansk with over 40k people:lol:

I meant only a few matches over 30k attendance, so they have potential and fans...
I remember the biggest attendance in Ukraine last season was Arsenal - Zarya Lugansk with over 40k people:lol:

understood. So why do you think it may be that so few people come on less atractive occasions?

And who will use the Olympic stadium?

And who will use the Olympic stadium?

national team, i think

Along with the renovated Olympiysky Stadium and this new stadium, there is also a plan to increase the capacity of the Lobanovsky Dynamo Stadium to 30,000 seats from 17,000.

Like the stadium;) Dynamo is big club, deserves for big stadium. Hope they will buil it:)

^^ now chance
CSKA is much better than Dynamo is and they will have a 30,000-seater, because big matches they will play at Luzhniki.Dynamo can play with Shakhtar at Olympic Stadium.

CSKA is from Russia, Dynamo is from Ukraine...at least if it was the USSR, Dynamo Kiev was its biggest club ;).
Of course, Dynamo is the only big club in Kiev while Moscow has loads of them.

why dont they save money and say build a 25K-35K stadium. And for big games they can use the Olympic stadium makes sense to me. 50K is just too big with an average attendance of 8K

^^ ownership?? you will get all the revenue from the big games if you can play them at your own stadium. Also i have a feeling that football will grow to a level that the Ukraine and Russia will be the first and only port of call for eastern europeans wanting to step up. So i can see the growth of the game their facilitating maybe full houses every week at the big clubs...

I thought Dynamo Kiev is actually very rich and they could afford building a new stadium on they're own. Not saying about the 50k one, but they're Lobanovski stadium is just like Dinamo Bucharest's a disgusting one.
Shaktior that are from a poor working class city also have a very rich owner and now have a 50k ultra modern stadium, the Olympic is big but has a terrible view, don't the people from Kiev care about it?

this would have been an awesome stadium for euro 2012, but it would have been way to small to host the final :ohno:

50.000 is enough to host a final Ernst Happel had 50.000 same did De Kuip.

Yea but the you cant have 2 stadiums in one city to host a Euro cup, even if they would have chosen then they would have still chosen the Kiev Olympic stadium cause its bigger.

Yea but the you cant have 2 stadiums in one city to host a Euro cup, even if they would have chosen then they would have still chosen the Kiev Olympic stadium cause its bigger.

actually you can have 2 stadiums in one Euro city, but this would have to be agreed earlier on, now it's too late.

yea but i have a question about this stadium. Is this a completely brand new stadium, or are they just going to reconstruct the Dynamo stadium into this??

This one is new, but i think it is not be build.
P.S. Sorry 4 my english

This one is new, but i think it is not be build.
P.S. Sorry 4 my english

Correction:

This one is new, but I think that it's not going to be built.

They might start after all of the financial problems have been solved.

ANY NEWs??????????????

Don't expect anything to start within 2 years.

Heard from reliable source from Dynamo that club is planning reconstruction of their club stadium after Olimpic stadium is completed

Well then get that Olympic will be idle.