Thx for update! And beautiful that you have snow there...
But how long it's going to stay so?

It'll be back to the 40s and 50s soon, so it'll all be gone by monday.

the cladding looks simply AMAZING!! WoW I never thought it would be so beautiful!

So One57 is now the 62nd tallest building in New York City. It is taller than the Waldorf-Astoria, as well Central Park Place not very far away. It is taller than the W. R. Grace Building, and 888 7th Avenue which lies just across the street crossing from One57 (another neighbor bites the dust!). It is also taller than the General Electric Building and 1 New York Plaza.

By the way - awesome 57th st cladding :0

What amazes me is how close One57 and 4WTC are in final height.

Indeed, but no one would notice because they are so far away from each other. But if 4 WTC was 10 meters higher it would be much better.

Off topic: happy birthday to Mr. DinoVabec! :)

Off topic: happy birthday to Mr. DinoVabec! :)

:lol::lol::lol: Happy Birthday to you too Mat..:cheers:

Nyguy at Skyscraperpage..

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^^ Great update. Btw I hear that One57 hasn't made any progress the last three weeks or so, heightwise. Is there a connection between this one and 1WTC, i.e. no steel erection on both towers?

225 W57th, the site where Extell will construct another 300m+ tower, is visible in this photo. It's the building on the left covered in black netting next to an empty lot on which Extell already razed the existing structures. It's amazing that two very tall towers will sit so close to one another.

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^^ Great update. Btw I hear that One57 hasn't made any progress the last three weeks or so, heightwise. Is there a connection between this one and 1WTC, i.e. no steel erection on both towers?

The only steel 157 uses is rebar, it's a relatively simple no core concrete structure from what I know (if anybody knows more detail I'd love to hear it :cheer:) so I don't think that the dubious status of the steel industry in NYC would affect it in any major way (though I might be wrong :dunno:). The slow progress lately might be because of weather. I remember that in the middle of December or so they were at floor 48, now they are at floor 50 so there is progress but it's slow :cry:

I guarantee you it's the weather. It's been rainy and windy all month, and recently snowed.

http://www.observer.com/files/2012/01/One57.jpg

http://www.observer.com/2012/01/one57-is-so-real/one57/

^^ Ah yes, I forgot it's a concrete building. As Uaarkson said, it must be the weather then.

I walked by the site on 24 Jan 2012, and the glass looks stunning. By the way, the curvy panels at the base that have been depictted in photos had a protective covering on them and look completely different in person (without the covering which has been removed).

I walked by the site on 24 Jan 2012, and the glass looks stunning. By the way, the curvy panels at the base that have been depictted in photos had a protective covering on them and look completely different in person (without the covering which has been removed).

Exactly, it's visible on the photos on the last page..Just wanted to point out, Robert beat me..

Cladding is moving along pretty well...
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So One57 is now the 62nd tallest building in New York City. It is taller than the Waldorf-Astoria, as well Central Park Place not very far away. It is taller than the W. R. Grace Building, and 888 7th Avenue which lies just across the street crossing from One57 (another neighbor bites the dust!). It is also taller than the General Electric Building and 1 New York Plaza.

By the way - awesome 57th st cladding :0

It isn't taller then 1 New York Plaze or GE

Interesting looking cladding.

It isn't taller then 1 New York Plaze or GE

It is according to Skyscraperpage.

^^ I dunno how tall these buildings are but I know that 157 is 196 meters tall atm :cheers:

Crazy cladding!

The only steel 157 uses is rebar, it's a relatively simple no core concrete structure from what I know (if anybody knows more detail I'd love to hear it :cheer:) so I don't think that the dubious status of the steel industry in NYC would affect it in any major way (though I might be wrong :dunno:). The slow progress lately might be because of weather. I remember that in the middle of December or so they were at floor 48, now they are at floor 50 so there is progress but it's slow :cry:

Uaarkson is right, it's weather. Snow, rain and even on days where it's been clear it's been very windy. This tower has a loan from Bank of America. No need to worry.

And I know it's hard to believe, but as much as the photo updates are appreciated they don't do the cladding justice.

It is according to Skyscraperpage.
it WILL be taller, currently it has a way to go. SSP shows the completed buildings in it's diagrams.

as it has been mentioned before i still don't understand how a building can have no central core. especially one this tall. can someone please explain?

http://www.observer.com/files/2012/01/One57.jpg

http://www.observer.com/2012/01/one57-is-so-real/one57/

220 CPS, which will be demolished, is visible in that photo.

^^ And we need to know that on this thread why? :ohno:

as it has been mentioned before i still don't understand how a building can have no central core. especially one this tall. can someone please explain?

Before I start talking let me note that all of what I am about to say is only hypothesizing of a non engineer. I think 157 might use the grid model which was used in older buildings like the ESB. In the tube model you have a core and perimeter columns and beams or trusses connecting them but in a grid model you have a dense grid of either steel columns or in the case of 157 concrete walls and columns that hold the building. From what I heared a building with a core is stronger but I can imagine there might be problems to incorporate a sufficient core into a building of this shape :cheers:

Last photo, Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith in front of the white van :P

(sort of)

it WILL be taller, currently it has a way to go. SSP shows the completed buildings in it's diagrams.

No, it IS taller NOW. General Electric is 195.1 m. One57 is currently 196m.

is it another building owned by GE? because i'm thinking of this which is well over 200m

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^^ This GE is 260 meters tall. He's talking about another GE building :cheers:

General Electric Building - 570 Lex - 195m
GE Building - 30 Rock - 259m

Cladding is moving along pretty well...
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At what time of day was this photo taken? What is the best time to come and see cladding in action?

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Ah, didn't know there were two of them. This is the one that just got surpassed by One57. This one is called by its full name, the General Electric building. The taller one is shortened to the GE building.

At what time of day was this photo taken? What is the best time to come and see cladding in action?

Mornings and midday is usually when work is ongoing. I saw most of the workers just milling around around noon (lunchtime).

I love the cladding is building has!

so i didn't know there 2 buildings named after GE.

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Ah, didn't know there were two of them. This is the one that just got surpassed by One57. This one is called by its full name, the General Electric building. The taller one is shortened to the GE building.

YES! Similar to how there is the "MetLife building" on park, and the "metropolitan life insurance building" on madison square park. Both are the same company and basically same name, just one is abbreviated.

quoting from 770 11th Ave forum (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1012823&page=4)

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this photo was posted 11 Jan 2012 (there has been little or no vertical enhancement of One57 since then) - the tower can now be seen from somewhere in New Jersey

As high as Two World Financial center now.:)

At what time of day was this photo taken? What is the best time to come and see cladding in action?
This was around 2:00 PM.

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/one57glass_1_12.jpg

source: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/01/26/zooming_in_on_one57s_glass_new_art_on_a_brooklyn_bridge.php

^^ Thanks, the claddings really taking off, it's definitely to the renderings though, they show the cladding being a lot more pale, not sure if I like the real cladding more or not, time will tell I guess :)

:cheers:

^^ Well, I do like the real one more than the render one :banana2:

^^ Absolutely agreed! From the renders, I thought it'd be gaudy, and awkward, now I see it, and I am very impressed!

^^ Well, I do like the real one more than the render one :banana2:


I agree!!! I like a lot those colors. :) The building will really be the shining star of the area, no doubt about it. I can't wait to see it in person in a few months:)

^^ Thanks, the claddings really taking off, it's definitely to the renderings though, they show the cladding being a lot more pale, not sure if I like the real cladding more or not, time will tell I guess :)

:cheers:I think the reason behind that is because there isn't any sunlight in the canyon, once it gets higher and more sunlight is able to reach it; it'll be much brighter.

I agree!!! I like a lot those colors. :) The building will really be the shining star of the area, no doubt about it. I can't wait to see it in person in a few months:)

Most of the panels still have the protective film on them, so the colors that you see are not the actual colors.

This building is so great, there ought to be a symposium for people to come and talk about it. There will be many panels at this symposium, but I have no doubt that The Panel on Panels will be the best-attended of them all.

28 Jan 2012

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^^ Wow, the cladding is progressing really quickly :master:

I actually thought the glass would be bluish like it does in the renders, but I like this glass more.

The cladding is quite amazing.

Ooh, shiny! :nuts:

God Damn China!!!:mad2:

Damn firewall has the newest photos blocked and I'm not home to access my vpn. Wanna see the updated cladding

I actually thought the glass would be bluish like it does in the renders, but I like this glass more.

Yeap, me too. I thought that the final color, is more similar to the protective film. :nuts:

Anyway, this glass is impressive.

God Damn China!!!:mad2:

Damn firewall has the newest photos blocked and I'm not home to access my vpn. Wanna see the updated cladding

Why would China block that?

January 28th, 2012

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Why would China block that?

they block tons of sites with user generated content. The sledghammer rather than scalpel approach.

Thanks NYCD I can see those images. This tower looks like candy.

Yeah that glass is slowly changing my mind, about the ugly shape of this building.

^^ Well I personally, despite being a hardcore box lover, love this building. I think that with it's top it's essentially a thinner and far more balanced version of the Citigroup Center. This better balance in proportions is the difference between the ugly Citigroup Center and the beautiful 157 :cheers:

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/one57glass_1_12.jpg

source: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/01/26/zooming_in_on_one57s_glass_new_art_on_a_brooklyn_bridge.php

nice! :cool:

^^ Well I personally, despite being a hardcore box lover, love this building. I think that with it's top it's essentially a thinner and far more balanced version of the Citigroup Center. This better balance in proportions is the difference between the ugly Citigroup Center and the beautiful 157 :cheers:

Blasphemy.

This cladding is very strange. The cladding on the east half is black and silver while the classing on the west half is blue and white.

Moreover the cladding on the north side is plain light blue glass while on the west facing side of the building it is strongly colored panels. What an amazing set if different cladding styles.

But I don't think I've ever seen two different cladding styles on a building as we are seeing with this building. Very, very strange.

This cladding is very strange. The cladding on the east half is black and silver while the classing on the west half is blue and white.

Moreover the cladding on the north side is plain light blue glass while on the west facing side of the building it is strongly colored panels. What an amazing set if different cladding styles.

But I don't think I've ever seen two different cladding styles on a building as we are seeing with this building. Very, very strange.

Yeah you're right, it's kinda unusual! But I hope that will have a positive effect.

This cladding is very strange. The cladding on the east half is black and silver while the classing on the west half is blue and white.

Moreover the cladding on the north side is plain light blue glass while on the west facing side of the building it is strongly colored panels. What an amazing set if different cladding styles.

But I don't think I've ever seen two different cladding styles on a building as we are seeing with this building. Very, very strange.

You're right, it's weird, but I like it :banana2:

Nice building!

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LOL, the Sorrow Building looks so dark in that render :hahano:

Awesome renders! Thank you! :)

I walked by on 29 Jan 2012, and the glass is amazing.

This cladding is very strange. The cladding on the east half is black and silver while the classing on the west half is blue and white.

Moreover the cladding on the north side is plain light blue glass while on the west facing side of the building it is strongly colored panels. What an amazing set if different cladding styles.

But I don't think I've ever seen two different cladding styles on a building as we are seeing with this building. Very, very strange.

It's not different on the south facade. The glass on the west side of the south facade still is covered withrotective film.

It's not different on the south facade. The glass on the west side of the south facade still is covered withrotective film.

Yes, but it still looks different. For example, on the west end there were pure white wavey claddings whereas the east end doesn't have those at all.

Are you saying the white is only protective covering too?

Under the apparent blue tinting it was hard to tell what the true color is. I have the impression it is still blue, but I could be wrong.

Suffice it to say, if all that color is only from protective tape then the cladding on this building is a lot less nice than most people here are thinking it is. It means the south facade is really nothing but a ordinary smoked black and silver combination.

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To be more precise on my above comments is your assertion that in the above picture even the white is just a covering and not real?

As I said, if all the blue and white go away this cladding job then becomes quite mediocre, certainly nothing special.

To be more precise on my above comments is your assertion that in the above picture even the white is just a covering and not real?

As I said, if all the blue and white go away this cladding job then becomes quite mediocre, certainly nothing special.

Of course... did you think it would actually look like that ugly mess?

I'm not sure about the cladding so far. From the renders, the east and west facades are the ones im worried won't look very good.

that really is a nice render.

I wonder when the panels that overhang the entrances in the render will be installed, would they do that soon or would they wait until the building was nearly complete for that kind of thing? Of course that assumes they are still doing them the way they show in the render.

If NY will implement all these projects with Ground zero complex it will overpass HK in my top skylines list.

it will top all in my list

Alot of skyscrapers are being built worlwide but most are not in the same city.

NYC could have the worlds largest number of 280-400 meter buildings in a decade

Of course... did you think it would actually look like that ugly mess?

I think right now the west half with the blue, white, and grey coloring is the nicest part of the cladding. That is the first part of the 57th street side that went up and people liked it.

Much better than the smoked black, silver stuff that we are seeing on the east side IMO.

Hate to break it to those that love the blue and white, but I am pretty sure those are not the actual colors. Protective film that's blue is generally protective film specifically made for glass, while the white protective film is generally applied to metal panels (maybe stainless curved panels under there??). Judging from what's installed on the east end of the south elevation (and looking at the renderings), my guess is that the cladding on the west end of that elevation (currently under protective film) will look just like the cladding that does not have film on it (silver and grey). Also venturing a guess that the cladding with film is protected due to the tower crane above (located on the far west corner of the building), which probably lifts buckets full of concrete all day long, so this area is probably prone to spilling and that must be why the cladding is protected. Regardless of the colors, I think these curved curtainwall panels are very very cool!

There are three colors I see. The white is white. I don't see it as a film cover. Look at the slim sides and it's too perfect to be a film. The two shades of blue are both glass, one type that is transparent, and the other is very dark tinted. The question is whether they are mirrored glass, or the current pictures just make them look mirrored. I can't tell. What they will look like in-person, finished product (huge section completed) with the film off? I can't wait!

it will top all in my list

Alot of skyscrapers are being built worlwide but most are not in the same city.

NYC could have the worlds largest number of 280-400 meter buildings in a decade

I had that in my mind, becose now HK is number one in my list.

Hate to break it to those that love the blue and white, but I am pretty sure those are not the actual colors. Protective film that's blue is generally protective film specifically made for glass, while the white protective film is generally applied to metal panels (maybe stainless curved panels under there??). Judging from what's installed on the east end of the south elevation (and looking at the renderings), my guess is that the cladding on the west end of that elevation (currently under protective film) will look just like the cladding that does not have film on it (silver and grey). Also venturing a guess that the cladding with film is protected due to the tower crane above (located on the far west corner of the building), which probably lifts buckets full of concrete all day long, so this area is probably prone to spilling and that must be why the cladding is protected. Regardless of the colors, I think these curved curtainwall panels are very very cool!

I think your explanation is likely 100% accurate. Not good news for me - I thought the blue and white would go well with the rest of the building (and does sort of match the renders more than the black and silver) and would set the building apart from all the other smoked glass buildings.

But if I had to put money on it I think you are right. Life goes on.

Check out the one missing 'white' panel in the picture above. The edges are installed but not the flat front panels. The edges are white.

Yeah, some of the curved ones are white, and some are blue. If that is purely covering what is that about?

Unfortunately, they might leave the protection on for quite a while given the above explanation for it.

this cladding is horrible for any window cleaner :D

^^ no, just use a fire hose. ;)

Unless my eyes or monitor are deceiving me, the panels in this photo appear to alternate between having no tint and having a blue tint. ...even the curvy reflective panels. Yes, the blue tint is very subtle compared to the renders and especially compared to the blue protective film.

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No, my impression looking at it first hand is the darker ones there have no blue tint. They are simply dark, or gray.

Not dreadful, but certainly not eye popping either.

Amigo, you should see it in person. It's beautiful.

Hate to break it to those that love the blue and white, but I am pretty sure those are not the actual colors. Protective film that's blue is generally protective film specifically made for glass, while the white protective film is generally applied to metal panels (maybe stainless curved panels under there??). Judging from what's installed on the east end of the south elevation (and looking at the renderings), my guess is that the cladding on the west end of that elevation (currently under protective film) will look just like the cladding that does not have film on it (silver and grey). Also venturing a guess that the cladding with film is protected due to the tower crane above (located on the far west corner of the building), which probably lifts buckets full of concrete all day long, so this area is probably prone to spilling and that must be why the cladding is protected. Regardless of the colors, I think these curved curtainwall panels are very very cool!

I believe that is exactly what you said. Even if you look for blue glass, you can see that they are scratched, and in some parts almost taking off.

At first I also thought that the final color of the glass was one in blue and white, but after that installed the windows gray and silver all made sense.

Amigo, you should see it in person. It's beautiful.

Who are you speaking to? I have seen it in person, most recently Sunday.

I really would love the blue and white color scheme but accept that is probably not reality.

Anyways, I'll live. The most important thing is NYC is getting a much needed 1,000 footer.

28 Jan 2012

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wow, this wave cladding is amazing.

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In this render there are no curving panels on the right side.

This facade is a serious contender for the best I have ever seen personnaly. This will be a jewel for New York. What an amazing building!

^^ I agree with you. It's not often that I say this about a non boxy building but this building is incredible :master:

In this render there are no curving panels on the right side.

Yeah I don't think those renders are up to date with whats getting built, the wavy part on the left side is a lot thinner on the building then in the render, and the one on the right is slightly thinner to......:)

If the render is different with the building, I hope they leave out the ventilation panels next to the waving panels.

Absolutely amazing cladding. One of the best I've ever seen. It's going to be a great building.

In this render there are no curving panels on the right side.

This one has..

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This one has..

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I thought i was a blue tint, now I'm not so sure.. I think the render was showing the reflection of the blue sky more so than actual blue glass, no? Anyway, I like the more refined look than a solid blue/white circus facade.

I thought i was a blue tint, now I'm not so sure.. I think the render was showing the reflection of the blue sky more so than actual blue glass, no? Anyway, I like the more refined look than a solid blue/white circus facade.

I also prefer the alternating silver + dark teal/grey colour. I think it will look amazing when you see the entire face cladded.

The blue + white colour scheme stands out too much and does suit the ambience of the area.

The only thing I was not sure about is whether there are two or four distinct colours on the south facade. Silver + grey curved panels are confirmed, but what about the dark + light colour straight window panels? Are they the same colour as the curved panels?

I am also unsure whether the panels will reflect the blue sky more at higher elevations thus becoming more blue like 1WTC.

The only thing I was not sure about is whether there are two or four distinct colours on the south facade. Silver + grey curved panels are confirmed, but what about the dark + light colour straight window panels? Are they the same colour as the curved panels?

I am also unsure whether the panels will reflect the blue sky more at higher elevations thus becoming more blue like 1WTC.
It looks to me like there are at least three colors and possibly four. Just look at the area above the right entrance, which I believe is the hotel entrance -- you can see three distinct colors in that area alone: silver/gray, light blue, and dark blue.

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Pics from this morning (February 1, 2012)

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This was just posted on CurbedNY. http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/01/inside_the_swanky_sales_office_of_midtowns_massive_one57.php#4f297f0885216d5b9102f26b

Awesome..Now I finally know where the hell is that fake core..

nice interior also. :)

This was just posted on CurbedNY. http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/01/inside_the_swanky_sales_office_of_midtowns_massive_one57.php#4f297f0885216d5b9102f26b

:okay: Thanks for it.

I want!

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I'm calling this the waterfall building from now on.

I'm calling this the waterfall building from now on.

An apt description for it. :cheers:

Very interesting. In that model it certainly looks blueish.

I went by it this afternoon and it is clear that some of the cladding that appears blue has protective coating on it - it can clearly be seen as wrinkled and marked up.

But there is other blueish cladding that doesn't obviously have protective film. So maybe...

Finally, of the curved pieces on the western part of the 57th street face some are blue and some are white. I would think at least one of those has to be an actual color. Why have some protective coating be blue and some white.

BTW, they are FLYING with the cladding. The eastern side of 57 with the dark cladding has had a few more floors put up with even some cladding with vents.

Very interesting. In that model it certainly looks blueish.

I went by it this afternoon and it is clear that some of the cladding that appears blue has protective coating on it - it can clearly be seen as wrinkled and marked up.

But there is other blueish cladding that doesn't obviously have protective film. So maybe...

Finally, of the curved pieces on the western part of the 57th street face some are blue and some are white. I would think at least one of those has to be an actual color. Why have some protective coating be blue and some white.

BTW, they are FLYING with the cladding. The eastern side of 57 with the dark cladding has had a few more floors put up with even some cladding with vents.

I guess, since this side of cladding is gray and mirror-ish, once it reaches higher floors it will reflect sky which will make it blue..The same thing was with 1WTC..1stt cladding pieces were gray and mirror-ish..Look at it now..My guess..

How tall is it now?

Here are two pics I took with my Iphone around 4:30 pm today:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6803983931_3c84444e9a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6803983931/)
photo-1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6803983931/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6803983919_00cc8d21f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6803983919/)
photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6803983919/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

Look carefully and you can see the vents in the second picture.

Also, note not all the "blue" cladding looks the same. Also, some of the curved cladding is blue and some white. So maybe this is more than a simple black and silver scheme.

PS, didn't take pics but the buildings on Broadway and 8th Avenue are really shooting up and the International Gem tower, which I went by for the first time, is really big (ugly white cladding though).

You wouldn't never know the US had economic problems from the amount of construction in NYC

Strong sales bode well for 432 Park, 225 W 57th and Tower Verre.

One57 over 30 percent sold, Extell’s Barnett says
(http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/02/01/one57-over-30-percent-sold-extells-barnett-says/)
Developer, architect and designer talk shop at showroom event
February 01, 2012 02:30PM
By Leigh Kamping-Carder

http://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/one57.jpg

"About 30 percent of the apartments at One57 are under contract, according to Gary Barnett, founder of Extell Development Company, the developer behind the 95-unit luxury condominium tower...

In fact, prices already have gone up, not only for the 10,923-square-foot top-
floor penthouse asking $110 million, since sales officially kicked off in December. Some unit lines were “undervalued,” explained Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group’s Daniel Tubb, One57′s director of sales. For example, he said, a 2,009-square-foot two-bedroom priced at $6.65 million in October is now priced at $7 million, about 5.3 percent more expensive."

That glass is gonna SHINE when it gets closer to the sky. It's bright as hell now, and all it has to reflect to a street-level viewer is, well, the street.

Give it time folks. This is some serious shit right here.

I added the most important renderings to page 1. If you got any more, please let me know. Thanks. :)

This looks fantastic, some great buildings going up over there. :nuts:

I'm calling this the waterfall building from now on.

Couldn't agree more. :)

by 2015 new york will have a very different looking skyline :D

Over $10,000 per square foot? Got to be some of the highest residential property values anywhere, across all world cities. Granted it will have a lovely view of the park, you know your penthouse is expensive when even lottery winners can't buy it.

Actually, about half the floors in this building will have mediocre views. To the north the bottom 500 ft are blocked by the hotel on CP South and up until about the 900 foot level views south are significantly blocked by Carnegie Hall tower and city spire. In fact, for views they built this in the unluckiest of spots.

Very dreamy!http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4

I'm calling this the waterfall building from now on.

Or, we can call it "Fallingwater."

oops! :tongue2:

That name is already taken.

Over $10,000 per square foot? Got to be some of the highest residential property values anywhere, across all world cities.

I think I read somewhere these are the highest prices outside of Luanda.

This is THE city of skyscrapers in all the world.
How is it to live in such an interesting city in terms of new constructions?
Greetings to everyone

it's getting up again
http://i41.tinypic.com/23w8gsn.jpg

Current Roof height?

^^ 196 meters or 642 feet :cheers:

cant wait until we see cladding from central park :D

This is THE city of skyscrapers in all the world.
How is it to live in such an interesting city in terms of new constructions?
Greetings to everyone

It's the same as living in any big city.

This is THE city of skyscrapers in all the world.
How is it to live in such an interesting city in terms of new constructions?
Greetings to everyone

its kind of like walking in the woods.

^^ 196 meters or 642 feet :cheers:

Thanks :cheers:

Wealthy investors are wiring millions of dollars to New York to snatch up a piece of 157 West 57th Street
(http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/big-deal-the-world-at-its-feet/?ref=realestate)


Buyers have appeared from all over the globe, including South America, and there have been multiple sales to people from China, Mr. Barnett said. He declined to comment on rumors reported on some real estate blogs that one Chinese buyer had bought four $20 million apartments. But he did confirm that there have been multiple sales to the same buyers.

Fact sheets for the building have been translated into Russian and Mandarin. Spanish, Portuguese and Italian translations are in the works.

Americans, including New Yorkers, are buying as well, though they are a little late to the party. “Some want to buy, and we don’t have the exact product they want anymore,” Mr. Barnett said.

The duplex penthouse of 10,923 square feet, currently listed at $115 million, is still available. If the six-bedroom home closes at anywhere near that price, it will be the most expensive apartment ever sold in New York, eclipsing the recent $88 million sale of a penthouse at 15 Central Park West by Sanford I. Weill, the former Citigroup chairman. Ekaterina Rybolovleva, the 22-year-old daughter of a Russian billionaire, Dmitry Rybolovlev, bought that gem. She apparently will use it as her Manhattan crash pad while attending college. (Her security detail reportedly will live in a smaller, $8 million apartment in the building.)

On Wednesday, the developers of One57 and Christian de Portzamparc, the French “starchitect” on the project, as the builders called him, explained their vision for the 1,004-foot-tall building at a mimosa-and-bellini-fueled event. Mr. Portzamparc said he tried to design the building’s exterior “like a staircase of curved roofs.”

Some pics I took today focusing on the cladding. Sorry for the poor quality, just an Iphone:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6824534993_acd2dfa862_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824534993/)
Feb5 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824534993/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6824536069_e183816ace_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824536069/)
Feb5 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824536069/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6824539941_1df4df79c3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824539941/)
Feb5 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824539941/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6824540757_d0e0ce3ab1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824540757/)
Feb5 4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824540757/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

Ok, note in the above picture the upper right most "white" curved cladding. Note the strange printing it has on it. Also, I don't think it comes through clearly in the pictures, you really have to be there, but a number of the curved pieces seem to just be curved material without much of anything behind them. In other words, they aren't the curtain wall, they are simply decorative material outside the curtain wall. Tried to get close ups to show this but I don't think it comes through in the pictures:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6824542841_034a5ac69d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824542841/)
Feb5 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824542841/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6824543533_e923449a40_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824543533/)
Feb5 7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824543533/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6824544245_7f90b6f995_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824544245/)
Feb5 8 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824544245/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6824545009_d3e16f3580_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824545009/)
Feb5 9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6824545009/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

can some one send me the links for the projects down on 56th and Broadway and 8th Ave. Have pictures that I want to post but don't know exactly where the threads are.

It's the same as living in any big city.

My comment was in terms of architecture and new high rise buildings that you see every day being built in New York City.
So many influences and new technology, that is not as common as you may think, in most cities around the world. And for me that’s very interesting.


its kind of like walking in the woods.

Thank you for making fun of me…

English is not my mother tongue and its complicated to express myself the same way I do it in my own language.
But well, at least I try to speak another language besides mine.

^^ I know how hard it is.:)

It is advancing well :)

Dan, those are amazing..The best close ups we had..Thanks a lot..

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Thank you for making fun of me…

English is not my mother tongue and its complicated to express myself the same way I do it in my own language.
But well, at least I try to speak another language besides mine.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't think he was trying to make fun of you.......... I think he was trying to give you his own type of anaolgy. Maybe in terms of human scale..........like walking in the Redwood forest.
Since I have never lived in NY I can't really say but I am imagining walking down your cities street of tallest buildings and you just keep that experience no matter how many blocks you walk in any direction:)

Dan, those are amazing..The best close ups we had..Thanks a lot..

Thanks, unfortunately they don't quite capture one thing I had hoped to show.

The curved white cladding with the pattern on it has open space behind it. Behind that is more white cladding which is the true curtain wall. You can't really see that they don't touch because they are both white so the stuff that bends out blends into the part behind it that is basically flat. I would have had to get an even sharper angle but I couldn't.

Anyways, for those of us who remember back to last summer when this thing seemed to be making no progress it is great to see it flying now. :banana:

Question:

Is there a zoning law regarding the height at which manual opening windows are not allowed in NYC? Personally, would not ever want to live in a building where I could not open the window. I suppose there is a safety concern as far as something falling out of the window and hitting someone. Is the zoning law the same for residential and commercial?

Thanks,
Bugs

looks like a piece of the gray curly cladding is chipped.

looks like a piece of the gray curly cladding is chipped.
Maybe it's just a protection film.

My comment was in terms of architecture and new high rise buildings that you see every day being built in New York City.
So many influences and new technology, that is not as common as you may think, in most cities around the world. And for me that’s very interesting.




Thank you for making fun of me…

English is not my mother tongue and its complicated to express myself the same way I do it in my own language.
But well, at least I try to speak another language besides mine.

I know what you were asking.

more visible progress now up there
http://i42.tinypic.com/33ate75.jpg
http://www.instacam.com/showcam.asp?id=NWTHC&size=S

Thank you kayne! You keep us updated! ;)

When will it be completed?

^^ I guess 2013 but it'll top out this year :cheers:

At the current pace shouldn't they top out by early summer? Does anyone know exactly how many floors remain?

^^ The building has 51 floors atm. From kanye's pic I have calculated the current height and updated my diagram :cheer:

Roof height used below!

http://i43.tinypic.com/v45t8j.jpg

1WTC = 362 meters or 1189 feet out of 418 meters or 1371 feet
4WTC = Approximately 235 meters or 771 feet out of 298 meters or 977 feet
157 = 199 meters or 654 feet out of 306 meters or 1005 feet

(Note: I used the 418 meter figure for 1WTC when measured from the lowest above ground entrance and I used the 298 meter figure for 4WTC.) :cheers:

^^ Thank you. Nice to see how fast they grow!

^^ Thank you. Nice to see how fast they grow!

Only One57 is going up fast. I won't even comment on the pace of the other supertalls :nuts:

One57 is now taller than Two World Financial Center and Sony Tower. It's also taller than the Chanin building, the Silver Towers and 1 Wall Street (Bank of New York Building). It is now the 55th tallest building in New York City.

06 February 2012
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6830142565_12cfd2eea4_o.jpg
by taketimetopictureit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/73599154@N08/6830142565/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7020/6830142517_676309dc89_o.jpg
by taketimetopictureit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/73599154@N08/6830142517/in/photostream/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6830142417_909e2201cb_o.jpg
by taketimetopictureit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/73599154@N08/6830142417/in/photostream/)

Finally went up this floor.

Maybe it's just a protection film.

I also thought that the cladding was damaged, but if you look at the cladding on the right you see that that's the final cladding without any protection layer so yes indeed it's not the cladding itself you see on the left but a layer of protectoin materials on top of it.

I had no idea this would be the third tallest in New York.

^^for a few years, then bigger buildings will come

I had no idea this would be the third tallest in New York.

By roof height it will be the third tallest.

^^for a few years, then bigger buildings will come

If there's enough place to build.

If there's enough place to build.

Have you not heard of 432 park, Hudson towers, Brookfield towers, and tower Verre?

One 57 won't be alone by the end of the decade.

If there's enough place to build.

There is cause there are already many proposed buildings taller than 157 in NYC :cheers:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2qvdr8w.png

Wow, thank you for the diagram. Looks awesome! :)
To be honest: 432 Park Ave is not really imaginatively designed.
All other buildings are great. NY's skyline will be one day perfect. :cheers:

Looks pretty good, I really like that they are planning it in glass. Manhattan needs more of that!

If there's enough place to build.

Manhattan's only a small part of NYC. There's more than enough room.

There is cause there are already many proposed buildings taller than 157 in NYC :cheers:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2qvdr8w.png

Nice diagram. That's quite a few supertalls. :)

Manhattan's only a small part of NYC. There's more than enough room.

I didn't consider that.
So hopefully every free place will be used for the construction of supertalls.

One57 should have started on its fifth setback by now - it is the most dramatic of its setbacks I'd say.

If i were a rich men, certainly i'd get one of these apartments, because i loved it!

If you were a very very rich man.;)

It's a shame that I'm not one of these very very rich men...:(

I didn't consider that.
So hopefully every free place will be used for the construction of supertalls.

Please, NYC is not Dubai, stop dreaming:bash:

^^
I'm not sure what makes you think NYC can't go Dubai, it can certainly get close. If developers continue to work hard and people stop complaining about "loosing now useless old decaying buildings" then it is surely possible.

^^
I'm not sure what makes you think NYC can't go Dubai, it can certainly get close. If developers continue to work hard and people stop complaining about "loosing now useless old decaying buildings" then it is surely possible.

Because people in NYC don't build for no reason.

Please, NYC is not Dubai, stop dreaming:bash:

Let me dream...I don't understand why do you think in such a pessimistic way :ohno:
And nobody is talking about non sence buildings like in Dubai.

Why would NYC want to look like Dubai? In terms of supertalls it has like 10 upcoming ones within the next decade or so at least. Do people read any threads here?

NYC being 10 times more populated than Dubai (2 million metro vs 20 million) has faaar more midsize high and low rises to make it look more like a city than say another vegas in the desert.

Not trying to rag on Dubai too much but it's buildings are also mostly empty, we do NOT want that for NYC.

^^ You don't understand what I meant....
I just was looking forward to some new supertalls and not a copy of Dubai....Man...Read the posts...:ohno:

I would like to see more supertalls in the city. Nothing crazy though 1,050 being the average.

A good balance of buildings from the 900-1200 foot range is what NYC needs, maybe a 1600 footer somewhere too.


^^ You don't understand what I meant....
I just was looking forward to some new supertalls and not a copy of Dubai....Man...Read the posts...:ohno:

I wasn't refferring to your post though

Building a supertall on every plot of land in Manhattan would be chaotic. Nobody has taken the time to mention the sheer population required to make that practical. We're talking a daytime population of at least 20 million in Manhattan to occupy that amount of space. That would kill the subway system, clog the streets, clog the sidewalks, and absolutely make Manhattan an unattractive place to live. I say let's add some density and give the World Trade Center some friends downtown. I'd like to see more condos going up in uptown, and by uptown I mean above 95th street. I'd like to see all of Manhattan be middle-class or above. I'm sorry but the current state of Upper Manhattan in many areas is a monstrosity. LEt's build 300 footers throughout that area, and change things up. Add some more supertalls to midtown, maybe sprinkle some 300-500 footers in around Union Square, Chelsea, Madison square park, etc. to add some density when viewing from Jersey or Brooklyn or Queens. Then we are talking!

sidenote- I like what's going on in Long Island City and across the Manhattan Bridge in Brooklyn. Good to see some skyscrapers sprouting in the other boroughs. I'd also like to see the bad parts of the Lower East Side get developed. Some of those areas around Stuyvesant Town are crap! (As is Stuyvesant Town)

^^nobody said they should all be built in manhattan.

cladding looks great!

^^nobody said they should all be built in manhattan.


"I didn't consider that.
So hopefully every free place will be used for the construction of supertalls."

Well it sure was insinuated

when will it top out?

when will it top out?

I think its got about 24 floors left to go. They can do at least a floor a week. I'd say August. But I think it could be done quicker than that. My safe guess is July. But I wouldn't be shocked if it's T/O in June.

I can't believe how fast this tower is going up! It's hard to tell because the area is so dense.. I can't wait to see it in person

I didn't consider that.
So hopefully every free place will be used for the construction of supertalls.

Every free place, like you mean cut down the near forrests to build supertalls? Or maybe build supertalls in central park?

Come on ... "every free place" should not be used to make a building. I mean there comes a point where too much is just too much... and New York does not need to create more space for buildings. She has enough. You want new supertalls? I say bring down the crappy buildings and build new better ones in their place. As it happens right now actually (for most of the times, because some awesome historical buildings were demolished unfortunately)

^^ Okay, it seems as I've expressed myself wrong.
Of course I didn't mean every free place literally.
Sorry, if someone has misunderstood that.
Let's go back to topic. Does someone has got some new pictures?

February 10th, 2012

(Sorry about the haziness, shooting through dirty windows sucks. Also this is my older/not so good camera haha. But hey look, you can see people on top! :D)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_3099.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_3100.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_3101.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_3102.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/DKNY621/IMG_3103.jpg

^^Thanks for those pics, won't be too much longer till it's higher than Metropolitan.

Pictures taken from about 4:30 PM today, Sunday:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6867007367_0f0b4a12bb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867007367/)
pic1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867007367/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6867008115_70b7c5d032_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867008115/)
pic2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867008115/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

Interestingly the front side cladding made little if any progress in the past week.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7054/6867008853_09e624d1b5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867008853/)
pic3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867008853/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

Just my opinion but the blue and white color scheme is a million times better than the silver and black.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/6867009587_e7812d5801_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867009587/)
pic4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867009587/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6867010369_53be84f8ac_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867010369/)
pic 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867010369/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

I last took pictures on February 1st and I don't think a single new piece of cladding has gone up on the 57th Street side since then.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7210/6867011379_ecc9a82395_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867011379/)
pic 7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867011379/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

Then I went over to the 58th street side and noticed they did a lot of cladding on the lower floors going down to street level. Can you see it?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6867011991_898405f545_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867011991/)
pic 8 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867011991/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

You almost can't notice it because it is so mirror like and reflects the brick building across the street.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/6867012687_d1e1549430_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867012687/)
pic 9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/600west218/6867012687/) by 600West218 (http://www.flickr.com/people/600west218/), on Flickr

I have to say, what a crazy choice for cladding. If I wanted to see the building across the street wouldn't I just look across the street?

There seems to have been a serious lack of creativity and good taste with respect to this cladding.

That cladding on the back is great! When I first saw that pic I thought they had actually put up a brick facade :lol:

Those pics were fantastic, Dan & NYCD! :D

Judging from the pics above, the curtain wall contains high levels of iron, making it very reflective; wondering if 4WTC can beat that...

^^ 4WTC probably does, I think this just looks so reflective because it is in the shade of other buildings, not out in the open where the sun can hit it, It is still very very reflective though.....

I know it is just my opinion but the cladding on the 58th street side seems really plain. Seriously, how many mirrored glass claddings do we need? And it isn't as if the building across the street is so great that we need to see it twice.

The 58th side's glass is terrible. A shame really since the other sides look so great. I hope some future shots from different angles will change my mind. But man...

This is quite unique in that area I think.

Great pictures, though it's funny to think that anyone exiting that building across the street wont know if they are coming or going. :lol:

Pictures taken from about 4:30 PM today, Sunday:


Interestingly the front side cladding made little if any progress in the past week.


perhaps they only installed it for PR reasons or as a test?



Just my opinion but the blue and white color scheme is a million times better than the silver and black.

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I agree.

Thanks for the update btw.

I agree with you folks, that mirror cladding looks kinda lame when it doesn't reflect the sky but only a masonry facade of the building across the street :dunno:

Maybe the particular model of windows applied there has more to do with their impacts for the inside views and insulation rather than for what they do for the outside appearance?

It's pretty obvious that the above 58th street shot was taken on a cloudy day. This entire building is going to shine on a bright summer day.

The 58th Street side was purposefully made reflective glass to create a pre-war continuity in the streetwall and not make One57 look so out of place on that side.

It's pretty obvious that the above 58th street shot was taken on a cloudy day. This entire building is going to shine on a bright summer day.

The clouds hadn't rolled in yet. You can see that in the picture that captures the sky - it was partly sunny.

The glass that low down on 58th street will seldom get much sunlight due to the canyon effect.

The 58th Street side was purposefully made reflective glass to create a pre-war continuity in the streetwall and not make One57 look so out of place on that side.

Why aim for continuity on 58th street and not on 57th street? 57th street is also brick pre-war buildings. heck, it is right across from Carnegie Hall.

Continuity is seldom cared for in NYC so I am not sure why it would be in this case on an very seldom trafficted street.

Are these opinions based soley on a few photos seen on this thread? Or is this coming from people that have seen the building in person?

Personally, I'm holding judgment until a wider variety of photos are posted. Time of day, weather, angle, and various other factors make cladding appear differently in photos...

Are these opinions based soley on a few photos seen on this thread? Or is this coming from people that have seen the building in person?

Personally, I'm holding judgment until a wider variety of photos are posted. Time of day, weather, angle, and various other factors make cladding appear differently in photos...

I am taking pictures of it and see it in person every week.

They are just my opinions. Obviously others can have other opinions. And I think you can form reasonable opinions from the pictures. It doesn't look significantly different in real life.

I seriously dont get what all the fuss is about with the facade reflecting the opposing building. I mean it is not the first time a facade reflects other building nor the last. Besides, I dont think many people are going to focus on what the facade looks like looking up to the first 10-15 floors or so, but what it looks like and what it reflects at 20-30+ floors...

ESB doesnt look that awesome if your standing right in front of it either. In fact it doesnt look that tall even. But move 1-2 blocks away and then you see all of its beauty unfolding. The same will happen with this one. When you are right below it the facade wont be as impressive because it will reflect other buildings sure, but move a bit further or look at it from Central Park and tell me who is going to feel dissapointed with this tower. :)

I couldn't have put it better and I entirely agree.

The reflection of the buildings across the street allow for the tower to nestle itself quite comfortably on the street with other older buildings. I think a lot of thought was put into that, hence the huge panels.

What's wrong with the cladding? I think it's tasteful and respectful to the buildings around it. I've seen this building in person a dozen times, and I think reflecting the buildings around it is a great idea. It provides continuity, I'd rather have that than some unfitting modern facade.

Random question- Does anyone have a picture of the building(s) that used to occupy this site?

The cladding is daring, but it's at any rate awesome. Would it be black, it would be perfect, but you can't have anything.

Design does make a difference. Someone brought up the ESB as an example of mediocre design. Yes indeed. That is why the Chrysler building is almost universally favored over the ESB.

This building is over 1,000 feet so I'll take. It would just be nice if its design were a little more interesting though.

Another strange thing about the cladding - they put the checkered colors on the side that abuts other buildings and will seldom be seen. Strange.

^^ The low part abuts other buildings, but most of the cladding is above the neighbours.

Design does make a difference. Someone brought up the ESB as an example of mediocre design. Yes indeed. That is why the Chrysler building is almost universally favored over the ESB.

This building is over 1,000 feet so I'll take. It would just be nice if its design were a little more interesting though.

Another strange thing about the cladding - they put the checkered colors on the side that abuts other buildings and will seldom be seen. Strange.

Well, but there are those among us who preffer ESB over CHB :hi:

As to the design of 157, I think it is good. It is no where near being a masterpiece but it is still very good and considering it's height and proximity to Central Park I think it will be generaly accepted by New Yorkers. Just my 2 cents :2cents:

Design does make a difference. Someone brought up the ESB as an example of mediocre design. Yes indeed. That is why the Chrysler building is almost universally favored over the ESB.

This building is over 1,000 feet so I'll take. It would just be nice if its design were a little more interesting though.

Another strange thing about the cladding - they put the checkered colors on the side that abuts other buildings and will seldom be seen. Strange.

It's a shame too. I really like the different colored glass. But since this is New York, one can never tell for certain when the building next door could be demolished.

Back in NYC, I walked by the construction site and saw the building in person after about 4 weeks that I was away. I was there around 2pm, the 57th street cladding was being installed, it looked like they had a few panels left to finish the floor right below the very first setback. More wavy panels were in place since the last picture I saw on this thread, and in my opinion they look cool as hell! A few of the wavy panels were empty, and on those you can see from up close that the vertical framing members of the curtainwall panels are actually curved. It is not just the infill material that is curved and sits inside a normal flat square frame, the actual frame itself seems to be curved! From a technical standpoint, that's very exciting stuff! I am impressed! Does anybody know who the curtainwall contractor is?
Like I wrote on a previous post, the blue is definitely protective film, and I am sure the white is protective film as well, you could tell from the couple of spots were the film is either scratched or starting to peel off. Some white film also had logos on it. Under the blue film you can tell that the silver/grey alternating pattern continues across the entire facade.
The West facade looks pretty interesting, they are playing heavily with different glass, which right now seems to be distributed at random.
The North facade on 58th Street is simple but clean and sharp looking, it looks to me like it is the same silver glass from the 57th street facade, pretty reflective glass will take the color of the sky quite nicely (and yes, the color of the building in front of it too). No grey glass on this side of the building.
There is no cladding on the East side of the building that can be seen from the street.

^^ Ok, thanks for that.

Design does make a difference. Someone brought up the ESB as an example of mediocre design. Yes indeed. That is why the Chrysler building is almost universally favored over the ESB.

This building is over 1,000 feet so I'll take. It would just be nice if its design were a little more interesting though.

Another strange thing about the cladding - they put the checkered colors on the side that abuts other buildings and will seldom be seen. Strange.

ESB is far from a mediocre design. I also would not say the Chrysler is more favoured.

ESB is far from a mediocre design. I also would not say the Chrysler is more favoured.

Not mediocre, but conventionally art deco. Chrysler is generally agreed on the more unique and innovative design of the two; and but for ESB's size, Chrysler would have been more iconic of the manhattan skyline.

^^ I don't agree. But we can all have our opinions... I guess.

Not mediocre, but conventionally art deco. Chrysler is generally agreed on the more unique and innovative design of the two; and but for ESB's size, Chrysler would have been more iconic of the manhattan skyline.

As someone who grew up in NY I have to agree with this.

I'll take ESB or the Chrysler building any day. Anyway what's the progress on the cladding, for this building?

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Thanks for these shots!

I like the cladding more and more! :D

Again, the cladding is mind-blowing.

Again, the cladding is mind-blowing.

Yeah, it is :cheers:

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I think One57 is now around the 50th tallest in the city.

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Great views from Top of the Rock. Getting closer to this:

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Indeed, but is that render right? I thought the big setback on the right was just as high
as the Metropolitan Tower, but in that render it's way above that.

Nice to see the progress of a year, one year ago we saw the first setback.:)

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Great view!

I don't like to post simply to say great pics, but this one cries out for that. Totally awesome pictures. Thanks for sharing.

50 floors done, 25 to go..great..1/3 of the building done..

1/3??

With foundation more than 80% if only concrete is counted.

1/3??

With foundation more than 80% if only concrete is counted.

75 real floors from the street..Without 90 floor count bullshit..

This floor with full concrete walls is 47th, mechanical floor with mechanical room, pump room, electrical room, fan room and tank room..Next 9 floors fill have one apartment on each floor..

So we can expect T/O somewhere in Q3 this year, yes?

1/3? I am certain you mean 2/3. This corresponds to the building's height as well (roughly 200 m out of 300ish)

higher floors will have much smaller floor area than lower ones!

so less concrete...

So we can expect T/O somewhere in Q3 this year, yes?

Sooner than that I'm sure. They've built more than 1 floor a week at times. I'd say a May or June top out at the latest.

^Even better then! :D