For all the TV junkies out there. There apparently is going to be a "Revolution" this year with TV....... Freeveiw.

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The service proper will launch in 2009 along with a number of Freeview badged Set Top Boxes and Integrated Digital Televisions. The full requirements of a "Freeview compliant" set top box were not announced during the November launch. HD support will be required to view the HD Freeview channels, and Freeview will be producing a new combined epg (Electronic Programming Guide).

ONE is an upcoming Free-to-air channel set to be released in April 2009. The channel, owned by Network Ten, will featured 24 hour a day sport broadcast to the channel with content from around the world. ONE will broadcast in high definition on Channel 1 and standard definition on Channel 12 in the second quarter of 2009. Network Ten announced the channel mid-November.

More info on ONE

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,24838334-7582,00.html?from=public_rss

In other words, these are all channels which already exist, but currently only as duplicates of existing channels. The good thing is that the networks are finally being allowed to do something with them, but all the hype is a bit excessive.

In other words, these are all channels which already exist, but currently only as duplicates of existing channels. The good thing is that the networks are finally being allowed to do something with them, but all the hype is a bit excessive.

I'm a bit suprised that one of the big three hasn't tried to get the jump on the other two and start their extra channel from 1st Jan considering the time that they have known about the extra channels.

That said, I'm really looking forward to One starting in April (I'm watching the Chargers-Colts wildcard game now).

So all it is is one new channel called 'one' plus multiple duplicates of already existing channels only in digital with the same content? Am I correct?

So all it is is one new channel called 'one' plus multiple duplicates of already existing channels only in digital with the same content? Am I correct?

Somewhat correct. The channels that you can get will be (working names):

ABC1
ABC2
ABCHD
7
7HD
7SD
9
9HD
9SD
Ten
OneHD
TenSD
SBS
SBS2
SBSHD

Channel Ten:
Channel Ten is the only station which has announced what it is doing. Ten will be the standard Ten you get now. OneHD will be a 24/7 Sports channel with TenSD being a rebroadcast of OneHD but in SD format. Therefore all the drama etc that people view on the current TenHD will no longer be shown in HD, but may be shown on normal Ten if all the sport goes to OneHD. Confused???

Everything below is just speculation

As for the other channels, who knows. But you may expect a Kids channel (ABC??), World Channel (SBS??), 24/7 news channel (Seven or Nine), lifestyle channel or comedy channel.

And as for a timeframe, channel ten have said OneHD will begin in April. The other channels haven't said anything so it may be 5 - 10 years before we get 15 different channels.

will we be getting the foxtel IQ like functions? (like pausing live TV?)

will we be getting the foxtel IQ like functions? (like pausing live TV?)

You can pause live tv etc with a PVR (Personal Video Recorder) which is basically a digital Set Top Box with a built-in hard drive (ezxactly the same as Foxtel IQ). I've had one for a couple of years and they are great.

This is so confusing.... tenSD is oneHd but in SD format, why don't they just called it oneSD, gah!:bash:

Anyway, it's about time we had 24/7 news channel, apart from Sky with is only on Foxtel. No doubt trust an Australian to get a 24/7 sport channel BEFORE a 24/7 news channel.

^^^ Umm ONE is sports channel. See link on 2nd post.

You can pause live tv etc with a PVR (Personal Video Recorder) which is basically a digital Set Top Box with a built-in hard drive (ezxactly the same as Foxtel IQ). I've had one for a couple of years and they are great.

Is that like that Tivo thing?

Do you have one of those or can you just buy generic ones?

This is so confusing.... tenSD is oneHd but in SD format, why don't they just called it oneSD, gah!:bash:

Yeah, that would make a lot more sense and ten probably will do that. The changes I have listed are from the freeview website. I'm also read ABCHD may be called ABC3 and one of the SBS may be called SBS:World.

Anyway, it's about time we had 24/7 news channel, apart from Sky with is only on Foxtel. No doubt trust an Australian to get a 24/7 sport channel BEFORE a 24/7 news channel.

I agreed with you 100%.

Is that like that Tivo thing?

Do you have one of those or can you just buy generic ones?

Yeah, it's like a TIVO. I've just got a generic (Topfield) one with a 250gb hdd. I think Tivo uses a internet connection to get the program guide where mine just uses what is in the digital signal from the TV stations.

ONE as a new channel is NOT a news channel.

Its SPORTS channel!

No Shit.

What we are saying is it would be great if seven or nine would use their additional SD channel as a 24/7 news channel.

Yea i guess so but the real issue, how the news can be made? We dont need so much national stuff into one channel clogged. We need wide range of news from local to international. How possible to make that as 1 channel?

Judging by the number of dedicated news channels around the world (and Sky News Australia, an existing 24 hour news network on pay TV), it's very possible. Look around you, there is a lot of stuff happening in the world and even nationally that gets little coverage in mainstream news.

EDIT: PVR functions can also be achieved using a computer with a TV tuner. There are products out there which provide a remote control interface so that you can just hook it up to your TV.

Its only the cap cities that will benefit from this really.

Sky, CNN, BBC all 24/7 news channels.

Australia even has a 24/7 weather channel and business channel and they find enough stuff to put on it. Although most of the stuff on the weather channel is just 'Dr. Karl' telling us how cyclones work and why we shouldn't be out in the sun. He's the same guy that did the 'microslip' add a few years ago. :lol:

If we get a sport channel before we get a news channel, I think I will die.... some people used to think Australia was backward, I wouldn't blame them

the 10HD sports channel has practically already started, its being going for a few months showing the NFL quite extensively, think it had Nascar on it at some point as well

Sky, CNN, BBC all 24/7 news channels.

Australia even has a 24/7 weather channel and business channel and they find enough stuff to put on it. Although most of the stuff on the weather channel is just 'Dr. Karl' telling us how cyclones work and why we shouldn't be out in the sun. He's the same guy that did the 'microslip' add a few years ago. :lol:

If we get a sport channel before we get a news channel, I think I will die.... some people used to think Australia was backward, I wouldn't blame them

Lol, Sports channel called OneHD starts in april. Dont think we will be seeing a news channel before then.

In the UK a number of pay tv channels switched to freeview because they could make more out of ads than from subscribers.

They should get a porno station on freeview, full hardcore. Oz is apparently a free country without censorship. So it is no problems. If you are religious, don't watch it.

Maybe BBC World too.

Lol, Sports channel called OneHD starts in april. Dont think we will be seeing a news channel before then.

and that's Australia for you

Oz is apparently a free country without censorship.

:hilarious

OneHD will be a 24/7 Sports channel with TenSD being a rebroadcast of OneHD but in SD format. Therefore all the drama etc that people view on the current TenHD will no longer be shown in HD, but may be shown on normal Ten if all the sport goes to OneHD. Confused???

Watch 6pm-Midnight on "OneHD" turn miraculously back into the HD broadcast of prime time shows simulcast with SD some time prior to or soon after its launch...

In the UK a number of pay tv channels switched to freeview because they could make more out of ads than from subscribers.

They should get a porno station on freeview, full hardcore. Oz is apparently a free country without censorship. So it is no problems. If you are religious, don't watch it.

Maybe BBC World too.

lol I don't think so, Big Brother Uncut is a kids show compared to your porno channel idea and remember ALL the debating about that, stupid old people, that have nothing better to do. :ohno: prays for Big Brothe 2010 :)

Can't wait for ONE because we watch NRL for free!!! :D

No you wont, For starters it wont show NRL on One,

Plus as i've already stated it wont go to Ballina nor Regional Areas.

As stated you'll only benefit if your in a cap. city.

Bullshit. Freeview have regional broadcast. One is included.

No you wont, For starters it wont show NRL on One,

Plus as i've already stated it wont go to Ballina nor Regional Areas.

As stated you'll only benefit if your in a cap. city.

Do not question BSD

Oh BSD just becasue you little town wont recieve freeview doesn't mean you should get all defensive. Anyone can get freeview ONLY if your reagional area can recieve a HD signal

Bullshit. Freeview have regional broadcast. One is included.

Sorry to be the bearer to bad news but I'm not sure whether you will be getting One. Attached is a list of the (working) channel names for Northern regional NSW from the freeview website (http://www.freeview.com.au/#/channels). I'm not sure what Southern Cross will be doing with there channels.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2038/nswregionaltt0.jpg

As stated earlier NRL is currently on Channel 9 and therefore wouldn't be shown on One, until at least the TV rights are renewed.

Bullshit. Freeview have regional broadcast. One is included.
Dickhead.

Oh BSD just becasue you little town wont recieve freeview doesn't mean you should get all defensive. Anyone can get freeview ONLY if your reagional area can recieve a HD signal

no, its not even dependant on receiving a HD signal.. In toowoomba i receive both the regional HD signal and the Brisbane HD signal.

The Brisbane HD channels already utilitise HD, with 10 showing sports and the other channels doing there own thing.

Where as the regional HD broadcast has none of that..

So BSD, i highly doubt that Ballina will get Freeview

Canberra is the only capital city not to recieve TenHD at the moment. That's because we are considered a regional area and recieve Southern Cross 10. SC10 can retransmit TenHD if they want to, but don't because they don't have HD adverts, so therefore cannot make any money out of it.

SC10 said they would have TenHD by late last year and are now saying mid this year, but I'm not holding my breath.

If SC10 have HD adverts they will show TenHD (later OneHD) in all regional areas, so BSD may be in luck.

Does newcastle come under Southern NSW or metropolitan Sydney??

FFS stop screwing things over about 'Ballina'! Your so pissed blind, Freeview site tells you its available for entire country! Bloody insulting bullcrap.

FFS stop screwing things over about 'Ballina'! Your so pissed blind, Freeview site tells you its available for entire country! Bloody insulting bullcrap.

"Freeview" is available nationwide. The type of Freeview available depends on whether you receive a metropolitan or regional broadcast. Ballina is physically not close enough to a major city to receive the Metropolitan broadcast. It will receive the Regional broadcast, and the channels shown in the screenshot above.

CALM. THE FUCK. DOWN.

FFS stop screwing things over about 'Ballina'! Your so pissed blind, Freeview site tells you its available for entire country! Bloody insulting bullcrap.


Sorry to break it to you but you are wrong. Ballina is simply not important enough to get the same type of freeview broadcast as ohhh i don't know, say sydney as it is not close enough nor is it a capital ciy (or a city for that matter).

In conculsion you can tell yourself anything you want but you are wrong, try reading all the given infomation first

have a good day

Ahhh Freeview, it was meant to make everything all rose coloured and everyone happy. Instead its just made everyone confused.

Ten is the only one of the big three to announce their plans with multichannelling and perhaps disappointingly are only really going for two channels instead of the possible 3. With "One" being in HD and SD, and normal Ten being an SD only (well thats what I am assuming, as they dont have enough bandwidth to show two seperate HD channels). Southern Cross will probably eventually pick up One and it will head to the regional areas, certainly regional areas are a touch behind their capital city counterparts.

ABC, if it can get the funding, wants to do anywhere up towards 6 channels. ATM I think plans are for normal ABC aka ABC 1. ABC 2 to be more alternative content, alot of replayed shows and BBC dramas ect. ABC 3 (it is in the channel list but is just ABC 1 atm) is planned to be the Kids Only channel. While ABC 4 I think is planned to be a 24/7 News Channel. ABC HD will most likely just remain the HD feed of ABC1 if it does remain.

SBS, once again dependant on funding, Has its normal channel and then the World News Channel. There may be more content on SBS 2 and HD in the future but once again really unknown.

Seven and Nine have not announced plans as of yet, as other people have said. Their regional affliates will most likely follow suit. Lifestyle, Comedy, Drama channels are all possibilites, if one of them was to set up a news channel then Nine would be my Candidate.

TEN

Ten was the first commercial station to announce its plans for Australia's first new commercial multi-channel – a 24-hour sports network called ONE expected to broadcast from April. Highlights will include:

• AFL (the 2009 NAB Cup, home and away season and finals, with the grand final returning in 2009);

• 2010 Delhi Commonwealth Games;

• NASCAR (live coverage of Daytona 500 and Nationwide Series);

• Cricket (Indian Premier League matches);

• Golf (US Masters, US Open, Australian PGA, Ladies Masters);

• Also netball, swimming, tennis, Formula 1, NFL and the NBA.

"We see a first-mover advantage because we're first in the market with a sports channel," said Ten chief executive Grant Blackley. "We chose a genre where viewers would know exactly what they're getting and we've picked all the crown jewels. I don't think anyone could duplicate a sports channel with ease.

"The critical thing for us was what we could add to Ten rather than take away. We knew from the US and the UK that the biggest driver of digital take-up was sport.

"We looked into the market to see what was available and found that a lot of content was up for negotiation or was idle."

NINE

The Nine Network says its new multi-channel concept is a "work in progress".

"We'll announce what we're doing some time in the next couple of weeks," said Les Sampson, director of acquisitions. "But our plans are definitely to launch in 2009."

Industry sources speculated that Nine was considering launching a news or classics multi-channel. Mr Sampson confirmed Nine had looked at these options and a range of others, including lifestyle, reality and recent movies. "Nothing's been finalised," he said.

Nine would also need to upgrade its digital technology before launching but Mr Sampson denied the network's finances would be an obstacle.

"We're not going to be hindered by our situation. Channel 9 has had a very good year; we've met all our key targets in terms of our demographics. We have to tweak our technology, work on new computer systems to allow digital compatibility. Everything will have to be cost-effective and efficient. But we've made a commitment to launching the (new) channel," he said.

SEVEN

Seven is the most coy about its multi-channel plans.

"We're committed to multi-channelling. We're ready. We'll announce our plans shortly," said a spokesperson.

Senior industry sources, however, say that Seven had a lifestyle channel in the pipeline that may have been overtaken by a recent seven-year deal between Foxtel and the BBC over premium lifestyle content.

Other options mooted by Seven were allegedly a Plus-Two multi-channel that re-broadcasts content on the main channel two hours later.

"Plus-Two is a very popular option," said a senior source, who declined to be named. "The only problem is that, in my view, it's the best way to cannibalise your audience."

ABC

Our public broadcaster has just enjoyed its most successful ratings year ever, a fact director Kim Dalton puts down to its early inroads into multi-channelling.

"The way we offer content across a number of platforms and channels distinguishes us from other broadcasters and positions us very strongly in what is an increasingly crowded marketplace," Mr Dalton said.

The ABC is in advanced talks with the Government about a children's channel (working title: ABC3), to be launched within six months of the May Budget.

The new standard-definition channel would broadcast from 6am to 9pm and feature drama, factual, documentaries and entertainment.

"The commitment we've made to the Government is that it would be 50 per cent Australian content within a few years," said Mr Dalton.

"The final decision is theirs, but we're having quite detailed and positive discussions about it."

Mr Dalton said the broadcaster had also put forward the idea of a 24-hour news channel.

"We have the most extensive newsgathering service in Australia. We could provide a very good service."

SBS

Like the ABC, SBS already has a second standard-definition channel, SBS2, which broadcasts a partial foreign news service. In 2009, SBS hopes to upgrade it to a full comprehensive channel (working title: SBS World) to also feature international movies, drama, foreign language children's programs and new Australian content.

"We've put a proposal to the Government that includes a full second channel initially and then possibly up to two more," said SBS director of strategy and communications Bruce Marr.

Interesting too see Darwin, Tasmania and Mildura already has TenHD and will be getting OneHD. I thought it would only be available in the big 5.

Darwin already has NineHD, while Channel 7 is transmitted by Southern Cross TV.

Interesting too see Darwin, Tasmania and Mildura already has TenHD and will be getting OneHD. I thought it would only be available in the big 5.

Darwin already has NineHD, while Channel 7 is transmitted by Southern Cross TV.

Everyone has TenHD, NineHD on foxtel, if that's what you're getting at. If you mean free to air, wow

Oz should have a number of these freeview stations as porno stations. We should set an example of what a free and a democratic nation is about and allow the person holding the clicker to make the choice of what they view.

You could specify that these stations have to show 'Aussie content' which would create our very own Hollywood of porn studios which means our own entrepreneurs could flourish, as well as actors, actresses, producers, directors, fluffers etc..

It is a win-win situation and we should not be allowing our old fashioned 'Catholic guilt' or this vocal minority dictate terms of how we should live.

NO MORE CENSORSHIP!

On the topic of censorship, does the government still have plans to censor the internet?

Even if they did, they will find it is nigh on impossible.

It is just that the new Minister of Comms doesn't get how the technology actually works.

Interesting too see Darwin, Tasmania and Mildura already has TenHD and will be getting OneHD. I thought it would only be available in the big 5.

Darwin already has NineHD, while Channel 7 is transmitted by Southern Cross TV.


everyone had ch7 i thought? even tiny isolated towns... it just plays through whichever regional station like GWN in country WA. The only difference usually is the local news (but the Perth news is on after that too) and maybe a weekend local kids show.

They lose out on ch10, cos theres usually a station that is a mix of both but its mostly crappy 9 with the ten news, neighbours, idol, B+B and the simpsons thrown in basically.

Imparja is a combination of 9 and 10 yeah?

Every state has a diff name for it, in regional WA its WIN.

ah ok - Imparja is the NT channel but I used to watch it when I was at Kyogle. Somehow we were able to pick it up from there

ah ok - Imparja is the NT channel but I used to watch it when I was at Kyogle. Somehow we were able to pick it up from there

Kyogle is in NSW. Not NT.

that's very observant of you BSD

Oz should have a number of these freeview stations as porno stations. We should set an example of what a free and a democratic nation is about and allow the person holding the clicker to make the choice of what they view.

You could specify that these stations have to show 'Aussie content' which would create our very own Hollywood of porn studios which means our own entrepreneurs could flourish, as well as actors, actresses, producers, directors, fluffers etc..

It is a win-win situation and we should not be allowing our old fashioned 'Catholic guilt' or this vocal minority dictate terms of how we should live.

NO MORE CENSORSHIP!

When I lived in Copenhagen, most private TV stations would show incredibly explicit pornography after about 11pm all night. It was everywhere, you couldn't watch anything at night that wasn't pornography. I was 15 at the time and it was a God-send.

After a few months of it though, I just got sick of it and stopped caring. Most natives seemed to be over it as well, similar to how the Dutch are over marijuana.

Everyone has TenHD, NineHD on foxtel, if that's what you're getting at. If you mean free to air, wow

Foxtel isn't available in those areas, plus Ch7, 9 and 10 are metropolitan stations.

Imparja is a combination of 9 and 10 yeah?

I used to be but now its a sole Nine Network affiliate, the station logo even now has the balls
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Imparja.svg/220px-Imparja.svg.png

Kyogle is in NSW. Not NT.

Imparja is a Alice Springs based station, however you can get it right across Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imparja_Television

Imparja Television has the largest geographic range of any commercial television network in Australia.

Would not surprise if that is true, I remember watching it in Mildura, Victoria via pay tv.

ah ok - Imparja is the NT channel but I used to watch it when I was at Kyogle. Somehow we were able to pick it up from there
Seriously?! You could get Imparja free-to-air in Kyogle?

Seriously?! You could get Imparja free-to-air in Kyogle?

Yep. It confused me at first when I kept seeing ads for business in Alice Springs and Darwin

I used to be but now its a sole Nine Network affiliate, the station logo even now has the balls
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Imparja.svg/220px-Imparja.svg.png



that should be the stations slogan,
"Imparja, now with the balls"

I wish Ch 7 and 9 would announce their plans for their extra channel already. They are probably rushing to whip something up even though they have had two years to prepare for broadcast.

Other than the cricket, you wouldn't ever use Nine or it's affiliates. They are the kings of recycling tv, their nostalgia tv.

Take their license off them I say.

I was just looking through the TV guide to see what time the Superbowl is on on Monday and noticed that at 6:30am (Perth time) Ten HD has the Detroit Pistons v Cleveland Cavaliers NBA game is on. I think this is the first NBA game TenHD will be broadcasting.

Then on Friday, the Boston Celtics v LA Lakers game is being broadcast at midday (again Perth time).

ONE HD will be launching on March 26, but will also be available in SD on Channel 12.

http://whatsonthetube.net/2009/02/11/ten-readies-itself-for-one-hd-re-scan-your-set-top-boxes-and-televisions/

^^^^

Does small sized Plasma tv's (digital ones like mine) get ONE?

^^^ Yes

^^^^

Does small sized Plasma tv's (digital ones like mine) get ONE?

Does it have a Built-In Tuna? Like the add?

If not, you will have to go buy a HD Set-Top box, costs about $80 or less.

One will have a SD version as well, channel 12 IIRC.

A bit of topic but, If TenHD was to turn to oneHD then why the hell did they work on all of the ads promonting TenHD? :nuts: but then at the end of the day, bye bye Ten HD. Also my Plasma has recently added ABC 3 & SBS HD but both has not have its own programs yet? If they are seperate channels then what would be on them? :)

ABC 3 is intended to be a kids only channel, which is what ABC 2 started out life as. Problem is however it was a John Howard promise at the election, where as Kevin I don't think really said anything about it.

SBS HD is just a HD version of normal SBS, not sure if SBS actually has much High Def content, but its better then nothing because the networks upscaling equipment is better then what your TV can do.

^^^ Yes

Thanks.

Of course its digital tv fully like i said in last post. Now i be fond of seeing ONE!! Bring it on footy fever!

You wont get one!!!

This will end well.

RIP thread

This will end well.

RIP thread

Yep, the writing is on the wall.

Due to recent events, I'm not going to get involved this time ;)

Its so annoying,

it states it on the website and regardless if you have HD you wont get the transmission in Ballina BSD.

A bit of topic but, If TenHD was to turn to oneHD then why the hell did they work on all of the ads promonting TenHD? :nuts: but then at the end of the day, bye bye Ten HD. Also my Plasma has recently added ABC 3 & SBS HD but both has not have its own programs yet? If they are seperate channels then what would be on them? :)

At the time they introduced 10HD and started alternatuve programing on Ten HD i dont think they would have had any plans to turn it into a sport channel.
Im not a sports fan, but im glad that ten showed some initiative and is getting something off the ground unlike the other networks.

As was said, ABC 3 will hopefully be a kids channel. We will find out when the ABC & SBS funsing is reviewed in the budget, so around may (?). Russ has hinted several times that they will get fnding increases.

Channels 7 and 9 need to get their acts thogther, they are the only ones who have not made public any future plans for digital tv.

Freeview is really throwing me off, and it's wreaking havoc with my EPG in the Media Center. I have to keep rescanning cause the guide keeps dropping off everytime they change something.

Ten is especially confusing. Ten, One, and OneHD? Which one is the sport channel? Fair enough if they want to market their sport channel with a name that is something other than Ten but what about it's HD content that is currently on TenHD, will that just be moved to OneHD? Like Soorox said, what a waste of advertizing time. And they we're annoying ad's to boot.

Nonetheless. It looks like the same old rubbish situation with the EPG's. Only "freeview branded" read "approved" devices will be able to use the EPG. So still no native support for an EPG in programs like Windows Media Center. Looks like I'll be relying on ICE to continue giving me a guide for many years to come. All sounds like a big fat waste of time.

Incorrect, They will still transmit the EPG like they always have, so therefore all systems currently able to recieve the 7 day EPG, will still be able to get it. Freeview certiefied boxes will just have a fancy interface, and also not allow you to skip ads.

Ahhh I see. Still frustrating though that the networks are not producing a transparent and open EPG that can be used by any system (like being freely provided to Microsoft for windows media center) like most other western countries. :bash:

What? You expect the networks to be at the forefront of technology? :P

Setting up EPGs on Windows Media Centre is a total bitch. It's getting easier (someone wrote a pretty front-end for all the different programs) but it should be trivial. Like entering your postcode in the setup screen and not having to do anything else.

That is how easy it should be ^^ networks provide the EPG information to Microsoft and all you have to do is punch in your postcode in the TV setup stage and voila, scanned channels with listings automatically matched.

But instead we're stuck with having to use 3rd party application replicating the process because the networks claim that the EPG is their "intellectual property". ICE makes it pretty easy to set up the guide. But at the end of the day we have to pay them to provide us with an application that replaces functionality that should be FREE! *sigh*

Can i get the new stations in Port Augusta?

Can i get the new stations in Port Augusta?

Doubtful, maybe sometime after Ballina.

Seriously Port Augusta I'm guessing is too far away from Adelaide to get the channels (maybe with a good strong antenna and a high position you could) and the regional channels are pretty much lagging behind waiting to see what Seven and Nine do and then decide.

That is how easy it should be ^^ networks provide the EPG information to Microsoft and all you have to do is punch in your postcode in the TV setup stage and voila, scanned channels with listings automatically matched.

But instead we're stuck with having to use 3rd party application replicating the process because the networks claim that the EPG is their "intellectual property". ICE makes it pretty easy to set up the guide. But at the end of the day we have to pay them to provide us with an application that replaces functionality that should be FREE! *sigh*

Yeah that was what I was referring to.

After a reinstall of my media centre's operating system, I am now using epgstream.net to provide EPG functionality. It's only a single voluntary payment to unlock some of the features and it is the only solution I know of which is somewhat straightforward to set up. :)

Freeview is really throwing me off, and it's wreaking havoc with my EPG in the Media Center. I have to keep rescanning cause the guide keeps dropping off everytime they change something.

Ten is especially confusing. Ten, One, and OneHD? Which one is the sport channel? Fair enough if they want to market their sport channel with a name that is something other than Ten but what about it's HD content that is currently on TenHD, will that just be moved to OneHD? Like Soorox said, what a waste of advertizing time. And they we're annoying ad's to boot.

Nonetheless. It looks like the same old rubbish situation with the EPG's. Only "freeview branded" read "approved" devices will be able to use the EPG. So still no native support for an EPG in programs like Windows Media Center. Looks like I'll be relying on ICE to continue giving me a guide for many years to come. All sounds like a big fat waste of time.


You will have ONE HD (1) ONE SD (12) and ten (10). Currently 1 is also being replicated on 11, but that should end when ONE officially starts. It looks like everything that is currently broadcast in hd will only be broadcast in sd once ONE starts whichbis the major drawback.

You can already see a slight deterioration in picture quality as they are broadcasting more in the same bandwidth.

Really? What is the point of that! Surely the HD channel should have stayed for HD programming, and the SD channel be given for sports? Gah. :bash:

People like teh sports in High Def, Certainly Sport drives alot of the take up of HD viewing and broadcasting in HD. Apart from Letterman im not sure there is much content Ten show which is actually HD, certainly very little local content. I do feel however that maybe Ten should have retained the extra SD channel to show all the alternate content they started to pioneer with HD.

Yeah, i think they should have Ten, One SD for sports and then alternative the HD chanel between the sport and regular programming channel, because there is a decent amount of HD programming on Ten.

In the US pay tv really took off when the sports offering grew and was of higher quality, so maybe it will have the same effect with high def in australia.

It would be great if our networks had enough bandwidth to broadcast 2 HD and 2 SD channels though.

Anyway, i want 7 and 9 to hurry up and show us what they are offering.

I would imagine the offering will be not much at all ^^
It's just not going to be cost effective for them to spread their viewers over more that 1 channel, and their definitely not going to put money into new shows (bought or made) on any other channel but their primary one.

yeah well I don't think 9 will he investing muchnin their new channel, from what I hear they don't have anything to invest. They have been selling shows like crazy tonither networks. They made a huge mistake when they sold gossip girl to fox.

But 10 seems to have spent a bit buying up rights to lots of sports. Hopefully they buy some that the other channels don't do justice when they come up for negotiation.

i hope to god they provide something decent to watchin in the morning between 6:30am - 10:00am

terrible viewing around that time of the day

If you're willing to do a some fucking about, you can use Shepherd (http://svn.whuffy.com/) (which is designed for MythTV) with Media Centre.

Still frustrating though that the networks are not producing a transparent and open EPG that can be used by any system

My built-in tuner has a perfect EPG. All the channels, with full desriptions, previews, etc, for weeks ahead.

Maybe the problem is MircroSoft? :lol:

The EPG is not up to scratch. An EPG should be updated constantly to provide real time into as opposed to scheduled indo, so as to avoid any recording stuff ups. Sometime shows starts up to 15 mins late for one reason or another. If a show is going to start late the EPG should be updated to show this.

On top of that, each channel needs to broadcast the info for all channels, or another platform needs to be provided (which freeview will hopefully do) so that you dont have to go onto each channel to be given the current EPG info, becaseu that defeats the whole purpose of the EPG.

My built-in tuner has a perfect EPG. All the channels, with full desriptions, previews, etc, for weeks ahead.

Maybe the problem is MircroSoft? :lol:

Nope. The networks only provide the EPG to systems that work in their interest. I.E. tuners and systems that that do not have the ability to record and ad skip, or where the ability is throttled.

Nope. The networks only provide the EPG to systems that work in their interest. I.E. tuners and systems that that do not have the ability to record and ad skip, or where the ability is throttled.

For about 8 months the networks have been broadcasting a full EPG in their over-the-air signal. TVs pick this up.

Windows Media Center only does EPG downloaded from the Internet. Channel 9 maintains it has copyright in the EPG data (currently awaiting judgment in the High Court) and refuses to licence it to anyone who provides a timeshifting service.

So no EPG in Media Center.

Unless (1) you get some third party tool that injects an unofficial EPG into Media Center or (2) you get Windows Media Center TV Pack, which although produced by Microsoft is not available for download from Microsoft, but it does allow Media Center to read the broadcast EPG.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/nine-confirms-go99.html
The Nine Network has confirmed GO! as the name of its new entertainment channel, a name first revealed by TV Tonight in April.

Set to launch on August 9th, the channel will offer themed nights including reality on Tuesdays, science fiction on Wednesdays, and female-skewed content on Thursdays.

CEO David Gyngell talked about the the offering of the channel versus pay television.

“If you’ve ben paying a thousand dollars a year subscription we might be able to give you a reason to save a thousand bucks.”

The youth-driven channel is targeted 14-39 year olds and available to viewers with digital television or a set top box.

Nine confirmed the name on its Sydney News programme this evening, and more via A Current Affair.

GO! will also be available on WIN. TV Tonight hints that there it could be GO! 88.

The channel will include the following TV shows:
- Entourage
- Gossip Girl
- Sex and the City
- The Wire
- The Hills
- Fringe
- Sarah Connor Chronicles
- Survivor: Gabon
- The Bachelor: Officer & A Gentleman
- The Bachelorette
- Hells Kitchen
- Kitchen Nightmares
- Seinfeld
- Just Shoot Me
- Weeds
- Curb Your Enthusiasm
- Dog The Bounty Hunter
- Entertainment Tonight
- Moonlight
- The Big Bang Theory
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- CSI: New York
- Priviliged
- Aliens in America
- Wipeout Australia
- Bad Lads Army
- Little Britain
- Neighbours at War
- The Vampire Diaries

nice like finally though

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/nine-confirms-go99.html


The channel will include the following TV shows:
- Entourage
- Gossip Girl
- Sex and the City
- The Wire
- The Hills
- Fringe
- Sarah Connor Chronicles
- Survivor: Gabon
- The Bachelor: Officer & A Gentleman
- The Bachelorette
- Hells Kitchen
- Kitchen Nightmares
- Seinfeld
- Just Shoot Me
- Weeds
- Curb Your Enthusiasm
- Dog The Bounty Hunter
- Entertainment Tonight
- Moonlight
- The Big Bang Theory
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- CSI: New York
- Priviliged
- Aliens in America
- Wipeout Australia
- Bad Lads Army
- Little Britain
- Neighbours at War
- The Vampire Diaries

Woohoo, everything else sucks though.

Umm you forgot to bold Neighbours At War! Best show ever:

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LOL! Is that show for real? Or is it a comedy?

If you're a fan of Seinfeld you'll love Curb your enthusiasm.

LOL! Is that show for real? Or is it a comedy?

heh yer it's real... one episode about a stalker neighbour is really creepy.

Woohoo, everything else sucks though.

same thing applies in Foxtel anyway... everytime I'm in someone's house and they have the basic entertainment package I only really watch Simpsons.. or WWE if I get lucky..

SBS2 has been a godsend, combined with pip (picture in picture) I can watch TDF and the Ashes at the same time

and female-skewed content on Thursdays.

Sexist

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/nine-confirms-go99.html


The channel will include the following TV shows:
- Entourage
- Gossip Girl
- Sex and the City
- The Wire
- The Hills
- Fringe
- Sarah Connor Chronicles
- Survivor: Gabon
- The Bachelor: Officer & A Gentleman
- The Bachelorette
- Hells Kitchen
- Kitchen Nightmares
- Seinfeld
- Just Shoot Me
- Weeds
- Curb Your Enthusiasm
- Dog The Bounty Hunter
- Entertainment Tonight
- Moonlight
- The Big Bang Theory
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- CSI: New York
- Priviliged
- Aliens in America
- Wipeout Australia
- Bad Lads Army
- Little Britain
- Neighbours at War
- The Vampire Diaries

Sounds like a line-up you'd expect on Fox 8.

^^ That's interesting. All the girls will go crazy on free Gossip Girl and Sex in the City lol

Yay Gossipgirl. Surprised Privileged got up there and gross @ the Vampire Diaries? That's part of CW's fall. Should have had Melrose Place or The Beautiful Life, but Vampire Diaries. Ewww.

Sounds like a line-up you'd expect on Fox 8.

I wouldn't just say Fox8, but yeah certainly a selection of essentially the basic entertainment package from Foxtel.

Now if freeview start showing A-league and EPL i can cancel my Foxtel

Now if freeview start showing A-league and EPL i can cancel my Foxtel

that will never happen. foxtel basically created the A league, its theirs.\\


The channel will include the following TV shows:
- Entourage
- Gossip Girl
- Sex and the City
- The Wire
- The Hills
- Fringe
- Sarah Connor Chronicles
- Survivor: Gabon
- The Bachelor: Officer & A Gentleman
- The Bachelorette
- Hells Kitchen
- Kitchen Nightmares
- Seinfeld
- Just Shoot Me
- Weeds
- Curb Your Enthusiasm
- Dog The Bounty Hunter
- Entertainment Tonight
- Moonlight
- The Big Bang Theory
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- CSI: New York
- Priviliged
- Aliens in America
- Wipeout Australia
- Bad Lads Army
- Little Britain
- Neighbours at War
- The Vampire Diaries

i laugh at the fact that channel 9 think this will take business away from foxtel. no-one subscribes to foxtel exclusivly for this type of content. its mostly for sport/movies/world news/kids channels/music channels etc.

plus, with foxtel launching 20 more channels this year compared to the 3 new commercial channels, there's no competition.

^^

They better be new channels and not just 'HD' or '+2' :bash:

^^

They better be new channels and not just 'HD' or '+2' :bash:

There will be a number of new HD channels because that is the future of TV. Not to much of the +2's.

Anyways I have been keeping an eye out for info;
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=79796
http://johnjet-sneakpeak.blogspot.com/

These are both about a survey which Foxtel asked a few people to do for them, which has revealed what Foxtel are currently intending to do with their extra channels when the new satellite goes up next month.

Now if freeview start showing A-league and EPL i can cancel my Foxtel
EPL I strongly doubt, none of the FTA channels could do the great red button trick anyway. Best you could achieve under the current set ups would be 4 I think (I think SBS/ABC have space for 1 HD and 3 SD channels) or 3 for the Others (1 HD and 2 SD)
A-League is tied up to Fox Sports for quite a while (along with the socceroos), 2012 I believe. Which sucks donkey balls if you ask me.

Just curious, like in the US where analogue cable can still be used to receive channels on old TV, is the case the same in the UK if 1 isn't satisfied with the Freeview choices when the switchover is complete?

No idea about the UK. This is talking about Australia who stole the name from the UK.

Here in Australia, all the old Analogue channels are being redone in digital with the freeview brand name, which can be shown on an old TV if you wish. So essentially it's not really a worry here in Australia.

Is Anberlin the only female poster on the Ozscrapers?

If One could even just get the French or German league or something like that I'd be stoked. Champions League football is not enough, even though it is the ultimate.

I think One could snag some of the Italian league as I believe that is based on club contracts and Setanta and ESPN don't own all of them between them. Otherwise the rest of the majors are sown up with Setanta and ESPN. If Setanta (not that they will, because they are completely separate from the UK operation which did fall over) did fall over it would leave a pretty big hole in Football coverage, which One could look to steal some of.

There are one or two other females floating around the forum, certainly in a minority through.

Italian league would be so good. What about the J-League? Who are they linked to?

We need some more females in here if you ask me!

that will never happen. foxtel basically created the A league, its theirs.\\

i laugh at the fact that channel 9 think this will take business away from foxtel. no-one subscribes to foxtel exclusivly for this type of content. its mostly for sport/movies/world news/kids channels/music channels etc.

plus, with foxtel launching 20 more channels this year compared to the 3 new commercial channels, there's no competition.

I think you would be surprised how many viewers channel 9 lost when it axed The Young and the Restless. When it moved to foxtel the number of people ordering foxtel jumped quite a bit. There are alot of people out there that do get cable purely for channels like W, many would be be happy if they only had to buy a couple of channels for $10 and do away with the basic package.

Sexist I would have thought this fair after 10 released channel ONE.

We need some more females in here if you ask me!

Are you looking for a Mrs. Ross the man?

Is Anberlin the only female poster on the Ozscrapers?

:rofl:

Anberlin is a chick?

No... Lawl.

Your asain.

^

Hey Anne, will u be my date to the prom?

Your asain.

What about my asian?

^

Hey Anne, will u be my date to the prom?

t0tz

his name is douglas coolio pistachio. I no everything about you duongle.

^

Hey Anne, will u be my date to the prom?

Hey CKF, can we make a pack that we get laid at the Prom?

Hey CKF, can we make a pack that we get laid at the Prom?

what should this pack contain?

i've already got the goats cheese, screwdriver, lube and mouthguard. anything else?

epic spelling mistake

Are you looking for a Mrs. Ross the man?

No, I have a gf lol. Chicks are just cool. :cheers:

Anberlin is a chick?

Now I'm confused.... You mean sheee is a heee?

What about the J-League? Who are they linked to?


Fox Sports apparently own it, yet I think they show very little to none of it.

Never ever seen J-Leauge on Fox Sports. So is this new channel launching nation wide? Or just the capitals minus Canberra, Darwin and Hobart?

I think the Freeview is a complete crock.

In my humblest opinion we need at least one free to air music channel now. I can think of no reason why the ABC can't stump up a RAGE channel immediately, featuring the contents of their massive vault including Countdown episodes etc. Fox 8 should be free to air, to entice a bit of cross promo to foxtel, and bring a bit of variety to the current channels. Sky news Australia needs to be made available for free too... those are just off the top of my head.

The current/proposed offerings are a joke.

Man it will be great if we have a free to air music channel
hit out some old music such as The Beatles or some home grown aussie bands

I believe Nine, Win and NBN should all be taking this new channel when it launches, which is basically as good as it gets for Australia wide. It's only SD, so they don't have to worry about doing some of the upgrading required for HD tv.

ABC does have one more channel up its sleeve. It could also do completely different programming on its HD channel as well, rumours were for a 24/7 news channel (or I guess at least sorta 18 hours such as ABC 2) on the ABC's 4th channel. Similar situation with SBS, however you are unlikely to see an Australian news channel or Music channel with those guys. Seven's new SD is rumoured to be around lifestyle, but that still seems a way off atm. Ten still theoretically have their SD channel up their sleeve to use as well, because One is meant to be One HD. They could be a likely one to go for music, but don't hold your breathe, that would probably be at least 18 months away.

Unfortunately it is rather expensive to set up these new channels, and TV ads revenue has been hit very hard in the recent financial woes. Between the 3 majors, down some $300 Million over the year previous.

Freeview isn't a crock, although their sprouting of over 15 channels was a little stupid at the start. It is just meant to be a common name to help promote the transfer from analogue to digital. A common advertising platform. However I do laugh when I see ads for Freeview on One, it's sorta like well if I'm watching this ad, doesn't that mean I am already getting it.

Lifestyle channel, woohoo! Not.

Will much NFL be shown on ONE HD?

Go the Seahawks:)

One HD is basically a baseball and golf channel.

Anberlin is a chick?

rarely does somthing make me laugh out loud... but in this instance...

HAHA!!

BACK ON TOPIC, freeview is the biggest load of BS i have ever seen .... "15 new channels".... only 3 are new and so far we are yet to see ANY new programming... plus, the commercial networks treat their viewers with such contempt, ill have Foxtel forever..

when will channel 7 play the last episode of 24?!?!?!?! assholes..

Will much NFL be shown on ONE HD?

Go the Seahawks:)

Yeah they have some NFL, they will have the Super Bowl again as well. Of course what games they will have is anyones guess. I think they got at least Sunday or Monday Night Football, so if the Seahawkies are in that your in luck.

One HD is also an NBA channel and Nascar. So really if you ask me, they are an American Sports TV channel, with some AFL, netball and motorsport thrown in for good measure.

~UPDATED~
Programs we can expect from GO!99 ( gathered from articles ):

- Entourage
- Gossip Girl
- Sex and the City
- The Wire
- The Hills
- Fringe
- Sarah Connor Chronicles
- Survivor: Gabon
- The Bachelor: Officer & A Gentleman
- The Bachelorette
- Hells Kitchen
- Kitchen Nightmares
- Seinfeld
- Just Shoot Me
- Weeds
- Curb Your Enthusiasm
- Dog The Bounty Hunter
- Entertainment Tonight
- Moonlight
- The Big Bang Theory
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- CSI: New York
- Priviliged
- Aliens in America
- Wipeout Australia
- Bad Lads Army
- Little Britain
- Neighbours at War
- The Vampire Diaries
- Eleventh Hour
- Bewitched
- I Dream of Jeannie
- The Nanny
- Teen Titans
- Xiaolin Showdown
- The Jetsons
- Starsky & Hutch
- Charlie’s Angels
- Marine Boy
- Thunderbirds
- Scooby Doo
- TMZ
- Dance your ass off
- Australia’s Funniest Home Video Show
- The New Adventures of Old Christine
- The Flintstones
- The ARIA Music Show
- Numerous Cartoons on weekends
- Random movies


GO!99 Schedule and more information: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/07/nine-releases-go-schedule.html

It will show music videos 1am-7am, that very neat.

Oh goody, some American shit for a change.

Don't channels have a quota of Australian content? Except for wipeout and AFHV their is almost no local content.

It will show music videos 1am-7am, that very neat.

Don't channels have a quota of Australian content? Except for wipeout and AFHV their is almost no local content.

That could officially be your "Australian Content".

I should say I have no idea how the legislation works, because you have SBS2 which has very little Aussie Content (the news is about it) , and 0 Aussie Shows when it was the World News Channel.

Anyone enjoying Go!! so far? I loving those shows. Comedies always the best. Dirty Lads Army is a bit cruel!

Channel 7 soon to announce their new channel! Wonder what it would be like?

Do you have to pay a subscription fee to watch freeview?

Go! is crap. On that Aria show they show the same 5 or 6 songs every night lol. The only shows I've seen on there I actually enjoy is Seinfeld and Just shoot me. Loving the Bundesliga on One though.

Thought this would be better here than in the Whats on TV thread. The other day ABC MD announced that they would launch a 24/7 news channel sometime this year. This is an article from the Daily Telegraph, which was infact written by the MD of Skynews. Not supprisingly this was in a News Ltd newspaper, who own a 50% (or thereabouts) holding in Sky.

ABC's purpose lost in 24-hr transmission

Angelos Frangopoulos SKY News CEO
From: The Daily Telegraph January 23, 2010 12:00AM


ABC managing director Mark Scott claims the station's launch of a 24-hour news channel marks a new era in television. He is right.

The ABC is transforming into a taxpayer-fuelled broadcasting gorilla with a huge appetite for territory, more public money and control over public policy.

And this is bad news for Australia.

As the ABC adds more channels, the quality of its core programming will suffer as its resources are stretched.

Scott says the ABC news channel will not require additional funding. But the money has to come from somewhere. That means pressure on internal resources and staff in the first instance. Will ABC radio funds be diverted to pay for news TV? And what of promised increases in ABC spending on independent production as part of last year's federal budget?

Inevitably, too, the ABC will be off to Canberra in future begging for more taxpayers' cash. This is because once its new channels are up, the funding cycle becomes relentless. It will be ever more difficult for the Government to say no to more money to satisfy the ABC's pursuit of "more and better services for Australians". And the ABC knows this. It's the thin end of a brand new wedge.

The ABC's latest plans mask a fundamental change in the media eco-system that could harm or kill off other important parts. The ABC's new taxpayer-fuelled expansion is an attack on all of Australia's commercial media, young and old, that provide balance and variety.

The ABC, SBS and commercial media outlets on television and radio, and increasingly online, collectively deliver among the richest and most diverse news and entertainment offerings in the world.

A strong ABC is critically important to Australia. No doubt about it. But the ABC is important because of its core charter: to provide services to all Australians that are innovative and do what commercial broadcasters are unable or unwilling to provide. The ABC is at its best when it does things that others do not. That's why it was built in the first place.

But today the ABC is taking us down a very different road. It is aping the commercial media and duplicating services already provided by others.

The ABC is losing itself in the pursuit of ratings, populism and influence.

The new ABC 24-hour television news channel is a case in point. Of course the ABC should be able to provide news services. That is critical to its mission.

Sky News has made a huge investment in quality journalism - at no cost to taxpayers - over the past 13 years to provide 24-hour news services.

Scott dismisses Sky News as a subscription service with limited reach. Sky News is a national service connected to almost 40 per cent of homes, and growing. Yet Scott has announced that the ABC's 24-hour news channel will only be a high definition TV service, so it will be available to about 40 per cent of all homes that can receive HD. Most Australians won't be able to view it. So much for the ABC being a "universal" service.

The ABC puts out regular releases on its audience ratings performance - often comparing its ratings to Sky News with select journalists. Ratings are what commercial broadcasters use to sell advertising to make their businesses run.

The ABC should be less focused on commercial broadcasters and more focused on doing things that are unique.

For example, Scott last year axed The Religion Report on Radio National. The ABC should be doing more of this type of programming. If the ABC board and management want to be in commercial broadcasting they should get new jobs - in commercial broadcasting.

Scott in 2008 stated that Australia needed a public affairs television channel dedicated to politics, parliament and public affairs that showed our democracy in action without editorial filter. He said the ABC was the only media organisation in Australia that could provide it, and that commercial media would not have the finances or public interest to do it.

Scott was wrong. Sky News, Foxtel and Austar, all commercial media organisations, launched Australia's public affairs channel A-PAC 12 months ago at no cost to taxpayers. We offered A-PAC, at no cost, to the Federal Government for free-to-air retransmission.

Concrete outcomes such as A-PAC matter, not whether the public or the private sector provides them. In fact, an ABC with Napoleonic ambitions can harm everyone, including the ABC. Part of the ABC strategy with a 24 hour news channel is to shore support for its contract to provide the Federal Government's international diplomatic broadcasting service. Scott has linked the two services.

Sky News would like to tender to provide Australia Network when the current contract expires. A tender would let the Government test for new ideas, innovation and value. The ABC objects.

The rest of us are made accountable every day. The ABC needs to be made properly accountable too.

Isn't me or PRIME/SEVEN and 7TWO broadcasting has been mucking up lately? It showing some cut off of any signal!

Awww, a News Corp rag having a whinge about their territory being encroached upon - suck shit fuckers.

I don't think News Limited is hardly in a position to lecture anyone on impartiality - Fox News?

God that was an unbelievably self serving article... that anyone could read that and not think the same is staggering.

If Sky news is so fucking wonderful, hurry up and get yourselves onto Freeview then. Don't bitch because the ABC has the testicular fortitude to make the leap first.

7 two should be doing tennis also.

9's Go should show the cricket when they decide to bugger off to the news.

One HD needs to lose those wank sports, like Slamball and get EPL, Serie A(all the big games) and more basketball.

It would be nice if they allowed the Golf Channel and BBC World on Freeview also.

Maybe the World Movies channel too, also XXLX... it was on French tv in August. oohh lah lah!

7Two doing Tennis would be Tennis overload imo. Having Tennis on one channel and normal programming on another gives them a wider potential audience.

Unfortunately the chance of another free-to-air broadcaster broadcating anytime soon is not very likely. The only chance of it is if the government opens up the bandwidth that will become free when analogue signals are turned off in 2013, and they have already indicated they will be auctioning it off for mobile/internet use.

As for the cricket on GO, thats fair enough. But i think they are trying to establish it as a completely seperate channel with a different identity. Also cricket is on the anti-syphoning list. It prevents them from playing something on a digital multi-channel before it has been played on its main channel. All red tape..

I'm looking forward to the ABC launching it's news service. I'm hoping they broadcast it around the world, similar to BBC World and CNN. if they can't manage that, then they can at least aim to Asia/Pacific. News Channels are a great form of soft diplomacy.

The ABC already produces a lot of great news programmes that could be broadcast on the channel, such as Four Corners, Media Watch and Andrew Denton.

I'd watch it. I've enjoyed having the choice of watching ABC News Breakfast in the morning, so I can completley ignore the trash on 7 and 9.

I don't have foxtel so I don't have the choice to watch Sky News. Not that I ever watched it even when I did have foxtel. Why watch Sky when you can watch the BBC.

I'm looking forward to the ABC launching it's news service. I'm hoping they broadcast it around the world, similar to BBC World and CNN. if they can't manage that, then they can at least aim to Asia/Pacific. News Channels are a great form of soft diplomacy.

The ABC already produces a lot of great news programmes that could be broadcast on the channel, such as Four Corners, Media Watch and Andrew Denton.

Yeah I think thats the aim. At the moment the ABC operates The Australia Network which broadcasts to the Asia-Pacific. The contract is up for renewal next year and Sky has said they will be contesting it. The News channel is a pretty big step for the ABC in keeping the contract.

Mark Scott has indicated that if they keep the contract he wants to try and expand into Africa, South America and the Middle East and try to make the Australia Network an important part of Australia's soft diplomacy.

7 two should be doing tennis also.

9's Go should show the cricket when they decide to bugger off to the news.

One HD needs to lose those wank sports, like Slamball and get EPL, Serie A(all the big games) and more basketball.

It would be nice if they allowed the Golf Channel and BBC World on Freeview also.



Are you kidding?! How much sport do you think we need on free to air tv? Christ, it was 7 different types of ball games of a movie from 1934 already this weekend.

Seriously we need to optimize our sports channel, it need more local NOT ALL INTERNATIONAL!!!

Sky News itself is pretty neutral in it's reporting usually, its hardly a "Fox News". But that article just seems to be some right of reply stupidly turned into journalism. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. The new channel will be in HD, which does have less viewers then SD digital, however I think the gap is closing and anyone looking to upgrade should get a HD box just for the better options, pretty much every tv is sold with a HD tuner these days.
I look forward to the new channel, it has been something mooted for the ABC for a while, although there seems to have been a change from being the intended ABC4 it is now taking the HD channel spot, which does have a downside, although the ABC has little pure HD programming.

And Bob, ONE HD can't just stroll in and get those sorts of rights, there are contracts that have to expire and limits on what they can purchase including limited money. Fox Sports is never going to let go of the EPL, and indeed why should they, they can now show every game live with Viewers Choice and a lot of it in HD. They perhaps should have looked to get some of the NBL.

The news channel is only on ABC's HD channel for the time being. The only have a limited amount of bandwidth with which to broadcast, and the powers that be have decided that more content is more important than an HD simulcast of ABC1, which I agree with. If/When the government allows the ABC more bandwidth, the news channel will likely move to the newly available bandwidth and be broadcast in SD and the HD bandwidth will be used for ABC1, or something all together different.

I think the news channel will be abc4 anyway. It seems like the most logical option. They can allocate the bandwidth to any channel they own (2,20-29). So they can move the channel from 20, where it currently is to 24.

I hate the idea of second rate channels taking up the 1 HD channel allowed by each broadcaster.

I miss watching House and Idol in HD and don't want to now be forced to sacrifice ABC HD shows for a news channel that most people will never watch.

Why does the old saying quality over quantity not seem to apply to TV?

I disagree. I think what the ABC will put out on a 24/7 news channel is more important and more valuable than the fraction of what they broadcast that is in native HD.

The loss of ABC HD is really not that much to worry about, compared to what shows lost out when Ten HD became One HD (although I don't complain because I am a sports man)

One can do a lot more sports that are not on Foxtel. European basketball for example. The EPL, I'm not so bothered. There are plenty of other leagues. The best league in Europe and most interesting is the Champions League and that is on SBS thankfully. Foxtel is just sponging off the audience that the FTA networks have built over generations. A parasitical outfit.

7 two can do the tennis to cover all the action on the outside courts. In England, the BBC has about 8 digital channels doing the tennis at Wimbledon.
If you do not want to watch tennis, then you have all the other networks doing the usual tripe. 9 seems to have this problem, they always want to cut to the news when the cricket is on. They should be told by Cricket Oz, if you want to cover the cricket then do so or we will find someone else who is. Nine needs cricket, not the other way around.

SBS should get World Movies as another channel. In Britain some networks have switched from pay-tv to freeview because of far larger audiences. The government should let the market decide on who goes FTA, not Murdoch and friends.

Personally I would like BBC world as a FTA network here. Some of the segments on it are quite good. Like Hardtalk for example.

Also a doco channel would be good. Honestly, if they don't do it we can just download it ourselves. They are only hurting themselves.

Jeeze! Three new channels are coming!

The Seven Network will launch a third digital channel, 7mate, which will target male viewers.

"The launch of 7mate delivers us a tremendous platform of channels targeting specific audience demographics – leveraging our primary channel's success with women and 7Two's targeting of a 25+ adult audience," Seven's chief executive officer David Leckie said.

Seven registered the trademarks for Mate last October when it was considered as a possible template for the network's second digital service, 7Two.

Seven will launch 7mate next month, and the channel will feature programs such as Family Guy, American Dad, 30 Rock and Jersey Shore, plus documentary programs such as Mega Structures and Air Crash Investigations. It will also launch the critically acclaimed Battlestar Galactica spin-off Caprica.

Seven's announcement is expected to accelerate Nine and Ten's plans to launch their third digital channels.

According to sources, Nine is planning to launch a channel called NineCrime, which will showcase the extensive library of crime shows Nine owns, such as the CSI franchise, Cold Case and Without a Trace.

Nine is expected to launch the channel by October.

Ten is also planning to launch a third digital service at the end of the year, at this stage thought to be most likely a young-skewing channel.

Sources say Ten is planning to restructure its program schedule radically, shifting younger-skewing programs to the new channel and refocusing the main Ten channel on the 25-54 demographic.

That restructure could include a new nightly current affairs program fronted by Jennifer Byrne and, as has been speculated for some time, potentially shifting the long-running drama Neighbours to the digital channel.

The hurdle for that move would be whether Ten can persuade Canberra to allow commercial networks to claim drama content "points" by airing Australian dramas on their digital channels.

According to sources, both Nine and Seven considered movie channels, but felt the classification issues were too stifling. (Australian legislation requires G-rated program blocks during the morning and afternoon.)

Seven has also considered a lifestyle-themed channel.

Digital terrestrial television has significantly expanded its footprint in the last two years, largely because of the expansion of services by the ABC (ABC2, ABC3 and ABC News 24) and the commercial networks (Go, 7Two and One).

It is now available in approximately 75 per cent of Australian households.

Nine to launch new channel before 7mate
By David Knox on August 23, 2010
Filed Under News
“I wanted to call it Dave but everyone said ‘are you joking?’” says David Leckie.

Instead Seven called their new male-skewed channel 7mate.

Presumably nobody thought to ask the same question of that idea.

Dave, of course, mirrors the male-dominated channel in the UK which shows titles like Top Gear, Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps, Red Dwarf and Bottom.

7Mate, which launches on September 25 with the AFL Grand Final, will aim at young males aged 16-39.

Seven CEO David Leckie says the channel “will take a couple of years to make a good profit” but “it will make a profit in year one”.

Advertising will be sold across Seven media properties via SMG Red Unit.

“Anyone in the marketplace will tell you that James Warburton, Kurt Burnette (network director of sales) and their team do a great job selling television, Yahoo!7 and magazines,” he said.

But the Australian Financial Review says Nine has set a date for the launch of its second digital channel, five or six days before Seven launches 7mate. Rumours on Nine’s channel extend from a crime channel, lifestyle channel or a female-skewed channel possibly called GEM.

However, it still requires 8 weeks notice to be included in the OzTAM panel.

AFR also reports Seven is counting on 7mate to correct the failure of 7TWO to broaden the reach of the Seven brand.

“We are very pleased with 7TWO but we think we can do a lot better by the way. GO and ONE are going very well. We saw an opportunity and we are looking forward to it,” Leckie tells The Australian.

TEN has confirmed it will launch its new digital multichannel, ELEVEN early next year.

The new SD channel promises ‘fun and bold programming with particular appeal to the distinctly youthful market.’

It will air all-new episodes of Futurama, The Cleveland Show, Supernatural, Stargate, Dexter, Smallville, The Office, Nurse Jackie, 90210 and more.

It will also be the free-to-air home of the iconic The Simpsons.

Following from News at Five bulletins, the Network will introduce a new half-hour national news-based program at 6.00 pm weeknights targeting viewers seeking a smarter, more informed, considered and insightful approach to the stories, issues, events and news-makers of the day.

Then at 6.30pm weeknights and at 6.00pm weekends, TEN will present a half-hour locally-presented and produced news service in all markets, focussing on the key issues in each State.

Neighbours will also move to ELEVEN leaving question marks about the Network’s plans for local content on TEN. It will remain at 6:30pm weeknights.

Chief programming officer David Mott said: “Neighbours is an important and cherished member of the Network Ten family.

“We believe Neighbours is perfectly suited to ELEVEN’s audience strategy and will find a successful and enduring home on ELEVEN. We will round out the first 25 years with a bang, and give Australia’s most successful drama a new home to keep it vibrant in the schedule for the next 25.”

FremantleMedia Australia CEO, Ian Hogg said: “Just as Neighbours forged new territory for TEN in 1986, so we will again for ELEVEN in 2011. We are very proud of the faith being placed in Neighbours and the key role we will be playing in ELEVEN’s launch and line-up. Our storyline plans for 2011 are both bold and dramatic. Neighbours fans have much to look forward to for many years to come.”

ELEVEN will draw upon more than 70,000 hours of content from CBS’s library, including Everybody Loves Raymond, Sex and the City, JAG, Frasier, Judging Amy, Happy Days and MacGyver, to name a few.

In addition, Network Ten Pty Limited and CBS Studios International announced the proposed formation of a joint venture, ElevenCo Pty Limited (ElevenCo), which will provide content to ELEVEN. Network Ten will hold 66 2/3 per cent equity in ElevenCo, with CBS Studios Inc. holding a 33 1/3 per cent share.

As part of the arrangement to form the proposed joint venture, CBS has agreed to extend its existing long-term output deal with Network TEN.

CEO Grant Blackley said: “CBS Studios is a leading producer of quality programming for the global marketplace. In addition to its successful pipeline of content to the CBS network, which has been the lead network in the US for the last 8 out of 10 years, CBS produces content for the youth-targeted network, the CW. Our established output deal with CBS has been long and fruitful, delivering hits such as NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, Rules of Engagement, Medium, The Good Wife and the much-anticipated Hawaii Five-0 to Australian audiences.”

“Importantly, the joint venture will ensure long term continuity of this prolific US content pipeline, underpinning the sustainability of ELEVEN and also delivering continued supply of high quality international programming for TEN.

“ELEVEN will deliver a distinct destination for Australian consumers and advertisers. The channel’s ‘distinctly youthful’ focus will be well suited to fostering a strong level of online community and social media engagement, and the format will provide opportunities for a high level of sponsor integration – such as segment and program hostings – delivered in ways that will resonate with ELEVEN’s audience,” Mr Blackley said.

ELEVEN will replace ONE SD.

A week ago Seven announced its new digital channel 7mate would launch in late September.

Network Ten announces third digital channel ‘Eleven’ and new joint venture with CBS
August 26, 2010 in Headliners, Sticky by Aaron Ryan


Ten announces third digital channel Eleven.
Eleven
24-hour SD channel, launching in early 2011. “Distinctly Youthful” targeting the 13-29s with “bold & fun” entertainment.

First Run Programming
The Simpson, Neighbours, Futurama, The Cleveland Show, Smallville, The Office, Stargate Universe, Supernatural, Dollhouse, 90210, Melrose Place, Nurse Jackie, The Late Show with David Letterman, Dexter, One Tree Hill, Top Model UK

CBS Library Includes
Charmed, 7th Heaven, Sex and the City, The 4400, Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Cheers, Becker, Fraiser, JAG, Judging Amy, Star Trek, Star Trek Voyager, Walker: Texas Ranger, Roseanne, Diagnosis Murder, Family Ties, The Brady Bunch, Get Smart, Hogan’s Heroes, MacGyver, Happy Days, The Love Boat

MEDIA RELEASE – Ten Network Holdings Limited today announced that Network Ten will launch a new digital multi- channel, ELEVEN. ELEVEN will be the new and unrivalled destination for fun and bold programming with particular appeal to the ‘distinctly youthful’ market.

In addition, Network Ten Pty Limited (Network Ten) and CBS Studios International (CBS) today announced the proposed formation of a joint venture, ElevenCo Pty Limited (ElevenCo), which will provide content to ELEVEN. Network Ten will hold 66 2/3 per cent equity in ElevenCo, with CBS Studios Inc. holding a 33 1/3 per cent share.

ELEVEN will be unequalled in the Australian free-to-air market in presenting an exciting line-up of demographically-targeted international content with all-new episodes of Futurama, The Cleveland Show, Supernatural, Stargate, Dexter, Smallville, The Office, Nurse Jackie, 90210 and more. ELEVEN will also become the exclusive free-to-air home of the iconic The Simpsons.

In addition, as part of the proposed arrangements, ELEVEN will be able to draw upon more than 70,000 hours of content from CBS’s vast program library, including Everybody Loves Raymond, Sex and the City, JAG, Frasier, Judging Amy, Happy Days and MacGyver, to name a few.

ELEVEN will be broadcast 24 hours a day in standard definition (SD) digital transmission on channel 11, and is planned to commence broadcasting in early 2011.

As part of the arrangement to form the proposed joint venture, CBS has agreed to extend its existing long-term output deal with Network Ten.

Network Ten CEO Grant Blackley said: “CBS Studios is a leading producer of quality programming for the global marketplace. In addition to its successful pipeline of content to the CBS network, which has been the lead network in the US for the last 8 out of 10 years, CBS produces content for the youth-targeted network, the CW. Our established output deal with CBS has been long and fruitful, delivering hits such as NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, Rules of Engagement, Medium, The Good Wife and the much-anticipated Hawaii Five-0 to Australian audiences.”

“Importantly, the joint venture will ensure long term continuity of this prolific US content pipeline, underpinning the sustainability of ELEVEN and also delivering continued supply of high quality international programming for TEN,” Mr Blackley said.

“We are delighted to be deepening and extending this relationship with such a well respected and like-minded partner in CBS, as we bring ELEVEN to market,” he said.

“ELEVEN will deliver a distinct destination for Australian consumers and advertisers. The channel’s ‘distinctly youthful’ focus will be well suited to fostering a strong level of online community and social media engagement, and the format will provide opportunities for a high level of sponsor integration – such as segment and program hostings – delivered in ways that will resonate with ELEVEN’s audience,” Mr Blackley said.

CBS Studios International President, Armando Nuñez, said: “This new venture is an extension of our international strategy to match CBS’s globally popular content with best-in-class partners – for both establishing new ventures, as well as licensing our shows.”

Added Nuñez: “It is a partnership that expands an already terrific relationship with Network Ten, a leading player in this important television market, while establishing more opportunities for CBS’s world-class content to serve audiences and advertisers across Australia.”

The proposed joint venture is subject to approval by FIRB in accordance with the usual obligations associated with investment by overseas investors in Australian media-related activities.

Notes on Announcement
TV Central sat in on the conference call to media and in addition to the media release, here are some extra notes, comments and questions on the announcement:

■Eleven will replace One HD’s standard definition simulcast.
■Eleven will mark the first time that a US studio has entered into a joint venture with a free-to-air broadcaster in Australia.
■‘Neighbours’ will find its new home on Eleven, what does that mean for drama quota points on Ten?

Ten’s New Weekday Line-up
5.00pm ‘News at Five’
6.00pm National news bulletin
6.30pm Local news bulletin
7.00pm ‘The 7PM Project’

Ten’s New Weekend Line-up
5.00pm ‘News at Five’
5.30pm ‘Sports Tonight’
6.00pm Local news bulletin

‘The Simpsons’ and Neighbours’ will move to Network Ten’s new channel Eleven, launching in 2011.

It’s going to be news a 5pm, news at 6pm and news a 7pm on Channel Ten.

With the announcement of Ten’s third digital channel and the shifting of ‘The Simpsons’ and ‘Neighbours’ to Eleven, the network have now revealed their plans for the long speculated 6pm-7pm hour on Ten.

Following Ten’s ‘News at Five’ each weeknight, the network will soon broadcast a new half-hour national news bulletin from 6pm “targeting viewers seeking a smarter, more informed, considered and insightful approach to the stories, issues, events and news-makers of the day”.

At 6.30pm, Ten will shift to a local news service, which will be presented and produced in all markets “focussing on the key issues in each State, whilst continuing to break news and further develop the leading national and international news stories of the day”.

The two new bulletins will be followed by ‘The 7PM Project’.

“We see the provision of more quality local, national and international news-based content as the ideal bridge between our top-rating local News at Five bulletins and the increasingly popular The 7PM Project,” said Network Ten’s CEO Grant Blackley in a statement.

Ten’s weekend evening line-ups will also kick off with a new local bulletins running from 6pm-6.30pm on Saturdays and Sundays, following ‘News at Five’ and ‘Sports Tonight’.

The presenting and reporting teams for each of the new Ten News bulletins will be announced in coming weeks.

“This is a big commitment to news involving the employment of 100 additional staff, from leading reporters to expert camera crews, operators for new and efficient digital transfer technology, and an increased international presence bringing news from the key territories around the globe – notably Europe, the United States and Asia. This will ensure TEN has the people and technical resources to bring breaking and major news events to all Australians as they happen,” said Blackley.

“These two new formats will complement TEN’s timeslot-winning News at Five and provide valuable further news resources for The 7PM Project, as well as for TEN’s Early News at 6am, Morning News at 9am and the long-standing Late News With Sports Tonight,” he said.

“The new early evening strategy on TEN will provide a highly appealing, fresh alternative to viewers in these timeslots. It delivers a seamless and comprehensive package of quality news and public affairs, unparalleled on Australian free-to-air commercial television and catering to all segments of the market – from breaking news of national significance, to highly localised news, sport and weather, to intelligent and insightful discussion of the issues affecting Australians each day.”

“Our multi-channel and News initiatives are not only an effective use of our broadcast spectrum and an efficient deployment of Network Ten’s established infrastructure, team and resources, but a sound investment in building further long term, sustainable growth for our business,” said Blackley.

“Network Ten has enjoyed a successful year with expanding, quality content on TEN and ONE and across all our digital media assets. In October, we will broadcast the biggest event of the year for Australian audiences in the Commonwealth Games, on TEN and ONE, followed early in 2011 with the launch of ELEVEN and our greatly enhanced commitment to news and public affairs on TEN,” he said.

“These measures represent a significant reinvestment in the business in the year ahead based on sound underlying investment principles. They include the commitment of an additional 100 employees and associated infrastructure to strengthen our News credentials and services through an investment in the order of $20 million per annum, as well as our budgeted investment of $25 million in the 2010 Commonwealth Games being broadcast in October,” he said.

“These initiatives clearly demonstrate our belief in and commitment to Free TV and the Digital Switchover transition of all Australians, and will ensure continued high levels of quality Australian content with greater diversity and choice for Australian consumers,” said Blackley.

Sounds like they'll just be showing the same shit as before.

Maybe they can have a channel dedicated to 24/7 monitoring our borders and the influx of illegal boat people. A nice slogan like "Come home to The boat people channel" would warm the hearts of anyone.

Pwoah, ELEVEN is like the Australian equivalent of The CW. I can't wait for Melrose Place, hot.

Ten formed a joint venture with CBS so they have access to everything on The CW now.

Sounds like they'll just be showing the same shit as before.

The second channels will occasionally bring up some gems (Peep Show on ABC2 and Community on Go!) but in the main you are right.

I think it's decent, whilst most of the crap I won't watch, at least it gives me some choices

BSD thanks for posting the thesis... it was cool.

Coming Soon!

The Canterbury Tales

Chapter 1
The Knightes Tale

Whilom, as olde stories tellen us,
Ther was duk y-namèd Theseus;
Of Athens he was lord and governoúr,
And in his tyme such a conqueroúr,
That gretter was ther non under the sonne...

11 will have a few decent ish shows I reckon :)

Eleven will try to draw younger viewers with programs such as:

ELEVEN:

The Simpsons
Neighbours
Futurama
The Cleveland Show
Smallville
The Office
Stargate Universe
Supernatural
Dollhouse
The Late Show With David Letterman
Dexter
One Tree Hill
Top Model UK


CBS:

Family Ties
The Brady Bunch
Charmed
The King of Queens
Cheers
Sabrina The Teenage Witch
Get Smart (moved from rival GO!)
Becker
Hogan's Heroes (moved from rival GO!)
Macgyver
Happy Days
The 4400
90210
Beverly Hills 90210
Melrose Place (2009 version)
Melrose Place (1992 version)
Frasier (moved from rival GO!)
The Love Boat
7th Heaven
Sex and the City
JAG
Star Trek: The Original Series (moved from rival GO!)
Star Trek: Voyager
Judging Amy
Diagnosis Murder
Rosanne
Walker Texas Ranger
Everybody Loves Raymond
Nurse Jackie


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleven_(TV_channel)

11th January itll be on, cant wait :)

^^ Why are you listing the CBS programmes? Are we getting that too, or is Eleven associated or something? I don't get it :)

It's a joint venture. Eleven can air programs CBS Television-produced shows.

anberlin beat me. :mad:

It's a joint venture. Eleven can air programs CBS Television-produced shows.

which, importantly, should not be confused with the US broadcast network on which a show airs - they can be, and often are, different.

Looks like the back catalogue only though. However, from memory, TEN also has the current CBS output deal (plus FOX).

But these change over time - it's how Seven can have Family Guy and American Dad, but TEN has The Cleveland Show, despite coming from the same creator (Seth Macfarlane) and through the same production company (FOX).

CBS will be a content provider for the new channel

It's an okay line-up so far. Too bad most of The WB-produced shows are already airing on GO! (Nikita, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries, Hellcats). It's like The CW spread over two networks!

is it true that each network can only have one HD channel each?

It's all they can fit into their spectrum atm. Maybe could squeeze two HD channels if they ditched the SD Channels. Maybe. But would be stupid to do.

I hate it how they added these new hd channels and they all suck ass. All they show are re runs from tv shows from the 70's to the 90's and then they broadcast all their new shows on the typical 7, 9 and sc 10 in standard definition. So we have HD tv being wasted on old shows that are not hd compatible yet have programs that can be shown in hd only being broadcast in standard definition. Its fucken lame.

You can still catch Sunrise in HD :crazy:

I can pick up everything with set top box but cos my tv is 6 years old and aint HD compatible I cant get 7mate, Gem or Abc24.

If you're being serious swifty then that is wrong. TV has nothing to do with what channels you can receive.

I am pissed off as well Ross. Channel Nine showed the couple of cricket games against Sri Lanka in SD and HD on Gem (which they said they would do when they launched Gem, show sports which are available in HD in HD) But a couple of old biddies complained and so now we don't get it in HD. You can watch it in HD in England and New Zealand or the Highlights on Fox Sports but not live on Nine. People complained badly about the loss of Ten HD when One HD started, but One HD is awesome at showing HD compared to Gem, 7 Mate and ABC News 24.

I am serious, will not pick up them 3 channels cos they say HD needed or something.

You can still catch Sunrise in HD :crazy:

No you can't, its broadcast on channel 7 which means its SD. So we can't even see news shows in HD lol.

7mate is always showing Miami Vice or some other old show. How does this improve our viewing when we have lost an HD channel, but haven't picked one up in return.

I am serious, will not pick up them 3 channels cos they say HD needed or something.

As beastjim said, that's not how digital TV works. HD or SD, if your set top box can receive the signal then your TV can watch it. Your set top box sends the same type of signal to your TV. The difference is that your HD channel will only come out as SD on your TV.

Still dont show up despite the numerous times I tried fixing it. All the other free to air but them 3

Are you sure it's not your set top box that's not HD compatible? Because that's exactly what would happen if you had a SD box. Your box would be able to see the HD channels but not process them.

^^ Set top box is both SD and HD

So you can get One HD on Channel 1 and SBS HD on 30?

Isolation testing mate. Try the set top box on another similar type of tv, if the same problem occurs, it's the set top box. If it doesn't, then you have some strange tv issue and you might as well burn it.

Its the Tv not the box lol. I need to upgrade when I got the $$$ again. Currently I got some big chunky 68cm LG 7 years old lol.

If the HD channels aren't showing up on the set top box when you scan for channels then it most definitely isn't the TV. It's either the set top box or your antenna.

The HD channels tune in but dont show on the tv. I swear Im gonna have to bring you round to show ya myself lol

^ But you have tried using the set top box on another TV and it works?

^^ I dont have another tv

^^ I dont have another tv

Take it to a friends house then.

^^ showed neighbours the set top box worked on their tv so it the god damned tv lol

anyways new tv and set top box recorder when funds available again :)

Did the missing channels show up on your friend's tv?

In the UK I had a freeview box that, depending on where I moved, would show up certain channels. This is the only explanation I can think of for your problem.

I don't mean to state the obvious, but the set top box will interpret different signals from different channels/frequencies and channel it to the tv on one tuned or av channel. The TV does nothing except display the signal that's coming from the set top box on that one channel, so for it to be having a problem interpreting data from certain channels the set top box has already decoded is unlikely.

It could also be your antenna/cabling to your antenna swifty, not getting good enough reception to receive those couple of channels. Otherwise, sounds like a perfect excuse to upgrade. Certainly getting much cheaper to do so.

^^ True true, and if it is a bad signal area, or your antenna and cabling are fooked, you might well have the same or similar problem with any new set top box or tv. My neighbour in the UK had the same problem, but was missing even more channels than I was at the time... so test it out before you go splashing out on new gear, or you'll be wasting your cash.

Interesting. The units I live in did get new antennas and cabling this year so hmmm maybe I'll get shiny new cables for myself first. Thanks :) Oh and yes I do live in a fiddly area for tv reception like many areas in Brisbane.

^^ showed neighbours the set top box worked on their tv so it the god damned tv lol

Home And Away is better.

GAH!!!

GAH!!!

Why?

ya know when youre on the couch channel flicking and you just want something easy to watch, ended up watching weeds and friends on gem then seinfeld and community on GO. the new digital channels do alright in mimicking foxtel sometimes.

i think this neighbors promo is pretty good. eleven will be a lot like GO! or pretty much like fox8 something like that. the promos and tv show previews for 'eleven' are currently running on channel 11 if u tune it in.

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You watch Neighbours....... how old are you?

^^Or you could conclude i watch the promos running on ch11 maybe? :lol:
Thought the promo was done really well thas all.

ha im 24, i used to watch it a lot when i was at school...in the days when holly valance etc were on it. Not anymore...i catch parts of it sometimes bcos im not always home to see it anymore and dont follow it. Watch and half follow H&A though. at mum n dads for dinner lots and mum n my lil bro watch it :D its fine.

I dont actually see anything wrong with people of any age watching home and away and neighbours etc. No need to crucify anyone for that.

My mother watches Neighbours religiously. I bought her a set top box for Christmas so she can continue to do so when it moves to Eleven.

What annoys me is how Nine is actually on digital channel 8, and Ten is actually on digital channel 5, plus One HD is actually on channel 50, and looks like Eleven is going to be on channel 55. And from what I gather, it seems that all these stations actually do go onto the correct channels in the big cities and surrounding areas, and its only in regional areas that they are all different. What the fucks with that? Seems like they've actually gone out of their way to randomly inconvenience us for no reason, I mean there's nothing else on channel 9, or channel 10, or 1 or 11. Is there any way of programing them onto the right channels?

Does anyone know if He11o - the new Digital Channel 11 is coming to Tasmania?

Seems like they've actually gone out of their way to randomly inconvenience us for no reason, I mean there's nothing else on channel 9, or channel 10, or 1 or 11. Is there any way of programing them onto the right channels?

Usually no. The broadcaster gets to pick their preferred channel number for a channel. If that's not available, the set-top box/tuner will re-map the channel to something > 200. By agreement, and some ACMA decision, regionals get dodgy channel numbers.

The reason why the regional affiliates were assigned and use numbers different to the capital city broadcasters is so that people on the boundary between the two stations and who can receive both can actually pick with some accuracy their channel they're going to watch -- if the capital and regional TEN affiliate, for example, both wanted to use channel 10, then randomly (probably the one with the higher frequency allocation) one would be pushed to be something like channel 201.

I think in the US they're left to their own devices to work out what number they're going to use. Also in the US, sub-channels appear in x.y format. For example, ABC2 would be 2.2. This is much more sensible.

Does anyone know if He11o - the new Digital Channel 11 is coming to Tasmania?

Yes it is.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/12/eleven-confirmed-for-tasmania.html

Yes it is.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/12/eleven-confirmed-for-tasmania.html

Great. Thanks beastjim!!! Not sure which channel it will actually be on though - some people have said Chanell 11 - duh! - but others have said 55. No doubt my new Samsung will find it ok though.

What annoys me is how Nine is actually on digital channel 8, and Ten is actually on digital channel 5, plus One HD is actually on channel 50, and looks like Eleven is going to be on channel 55. And from what I gather, it seems that all these stations actually do go onto the correct channels in the big cities and surrounding areas, and its only in regional areas that they are all different. What the fucks with that? Seems like they've actually gone out of their way to randomly inconvenience us for no reason, I mean there's nothing else on channel 9, or channel 10, or 1 or 11. Is there any way of programing them onto the right channels?

It's funny when people visit me from urban areas flicking through the stations. Also get the urban digital channels, but the signal scrambles. Where I'm from:

- ABC HD = 20
- ABC 24 = 24
- SBS HD = 30
- Ten/Southern Cross = 5
- ONE = 50
- Prime HD = 60
- Seven 2 = 62
- 7Mate = 63
- Nine = 8
- Gem = 80
- Go! = 88

To start the car, you must put it in H.

Great. Thanks beastjim!!! Not sure which channel it will actually be on though - some people have said Chanell 11 - duh! - but others have said 55. No doubt my new Samsung will find it ok though.

You may have to force it to re scan for the digital channels but that is about all. Being a regional area it will most likely appear on channel 55, in line with ten being on 5 and One HD on 50. Just one of those quirks.

Put A-league on it so i can cancel my foxtel.

Cheers

Put A-league on it so i can cancel my foxtel.

Cheers

might have to come up to your house today to watch the soccer. Victorian f..kers are going down

Victorian f..kers are going down

somehow, i wouldnt be so sure

Two more days intill we get another channel (Y)

Neighbours is still on...

I cant believe people still watch broad cast TV.

hello 11! :banana:

Funny that they launch it on 11/1/11 at 11:00am, why not wait till November?

And now we have 16 Free to Air channels! (Except some parts like Tasmania & Darwin)
1|2|3|7|9|10|11|22|23|24|32|44|72|73|90|99

Anyone else got shithouse fuzzy picture on 11? I'm not sure if it's just their selection of programmes, but even Everybody Loves Raymond looks like it was made in 1962. Not clear at all... (haven't seen any ads yet though).

**Edit, must have just been an episode from 1932. It's clear now....

Channel Ten's audience share couldn't wait for November to launch just because the dates lined up. They've been beaten by the ABC the first couple of weeks of summer ratings because they have only 2 channels to other peoples 3 and 4 channels.

Going through the tv guide for the next week on 11, I'm pretty dissapointed :/

Neighbours is still on...

I cant believe people still watch broad cast TV.


they also still eat bread and drink milk, genius.

Anyone else got shithouse fuzzy picture on 11? I'm not sure if it's just their selection of programmes, but even Everybody Loves Raymond looks like it was made in 1962. Not clear at all... (haven't seen any ads yet though).

**Edit, must have just been an episode from 1932. It's clear now....

They were doing something weird with Raymond. Very blocky. Everything else I have seen has been fine though.
The Late Late Show with Craig Furguson isn't too bad as far as the late night talk shows go.
Plus OMG Sabrina the Teenage Witch will be on. :banana:

yea that late show is alright, mila kunis was good. craig ferguson does a good aussie accent.

sabrina haha, these new channels are good at bringing back memories for everyone.

Needs more Two And A Half Men FFS

"men men men, men men, men men men men--meeeeeeen!..."

many straight guys love it i hear?

Usually found at beats with wedding rings...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShkE0szj_1nVAWj6atmVLFn3k0-OrIGxJXsMUKKAbkmav4kDhF

Ten to One: you've hit a dead end
April 7, 2011
http://www.smh.com.au/business/ten-to-one-youve-hit-a-dead-end-20110407-1d5ck.html

Ten Network Holdings head Lachlan Murdoch says the broadcaster’s soon-to-be-revamped all-sport digital channel was at a ‘‘dead end’’ with ratings of below one share point.

Ten announced today that One, which hit television screens in March 2009, would be relaunched from May 8 with a Monday to Friday line-up featuring general entertainment programs designed to appeal to males aged between 25 and 54.

‘‘One was underperforming from a ratings point of view; rating below a single share point was simply unsustainable and unable to contribute to our earnings,’’ said Mr Murdoch, who is Ten’s interim chief executive, chairman and a 9 per cent shareholder. ‘‘We were at a dead end with One as it stood,’’ Mr Murdoch told analysts and media during a conference call.

Premium sport, such as Australian Football League matches, Formula One and MotoGP, would remain, but be shown mostly on the weekend. Some sport would also continue to be shown on weekends. Mr Murdoch is also a director of the global media giant News Corp, which owns 25 per cent of Australia’s largest subscription television provider Foxtel and half of Premier Media Group, which produces the Fox Sports pay-tv channels.

Ten said it hoped the changes would lift One’s ratings to a 2.5 per cent audience share or higher, which would allow the channel to make a ‘‘meaningful contribution’’ to earnings in 2011/12.

Mr Murdoch was speaking at Ten’s first half earnings presentation, which showed net profit for the six months to February 28, 2011, fell by 16 per cent to $49.52 million. Revenue increased 2.4 per cent to $485.76 million.

Ten’s chief programming officer David Mott said the One brand would stay, but putting general entertainment programs on weeknights would give viewers a sense of programming consistency.

Mr Murdoch, who became interim chief executive on February 23 when the company sacked Grant Blackley from the top job, said the first half results were unacceptable. ‘‘Ten Holdings is at a crucial juncture in its history,’’ Mr Murdoch said.

Ten said first-half earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA) was $106 million, down 9.8 per cent from the prior corresponding period. The result was slightly above market guidance of $103 million given on February 23, given better-than-expected costs in the television business.
Ten said revenue from its television business was only up 2.2 per cent from a year earlier, mainly because the 2010 Delhi Commonwealth Games performed below expectations.

If you want to tune in a new tv channel, tv4me has launched - 7's fourth digital channel.

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As a datacasting channel, the content on the channel is regulated, it must consist of mostly information, and the scope for entertainment is limited. It shows mainly Australian made programs, and infomercials.(wikipedia)

I just like the novelty of another channel to flick through, there was some surfing show on earlier but A LOT of infomercials.

If you auto scan for digital channels and it still doesnt come up or you only get sound, you need to go into your settings in menu and allow for MPEG4/AAC broadcasting then rescan your channels or it might say turn off the tv at the set then back on before scanning. I had to do that for it to work.

you can also turn on a prompt in the menu that will let you know whenever theres a new channel found, but most tvs have it turned on as a default i think.