Dec 17

Approved - bus stops here

By Andrew Hough


This is the first look at the new $400 million redevelopment of the city's Franklin St bus station.

Under the five-year, three-stage project, the redevelopment will include five 13-storey towers.

These will be built on the bus station site and on the former Balfour's bakery site and will include 1300 apartments.

The plans - revealed to The Advertiser last night - will also provide 150 "affordable" housing units and 360 student accomodation beds.

Adelaide City Council voted unanimously to support the development at a special meeting last night.

The West Central consortium, a joint venture between Urban Construct and Multiplex, is the developer.

Adelaide Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the development would make the city "more vibrant".

The development will also include a transport interchange, a carpark, shops and restaurants in a complex designed for modern urban living.

"People are really starting to realise the benefit of inner-city living," said Urban Construct managing director James Rice.

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And I remember Will complaining a few days ago that he thought that the largest buildings in the Central West precinct were not going to be any few levels above the Grote Street proposal. :D

Can someone please scan the image in today's Advertiser?

Choice!!! Should make a nice little cluster. They could've consolidated some of em though - couple 26 level joobies, how about one big fuck off 65 level bitch?????!!!!?!?!!? :D

let us know how to add this to ss.com. I need official names and addresses before i can add.
cheers

Originally posted by pikey
Choice!!! Should make a nice little cluster. They could've consolidated some of em though - couple 26 level joobies, how about one big fuck off 65 level bitch?????!!!!?!?!!? :D

That would hardly be worth it when five 13 level buildings would cost less than one 65 level building for the same amount of space.


CUL, my idea of how to put this on ss.com:

List all five buildings under a project - The project name would be called Franklin Street Redevelopment.

Include fact:
This project is part of a larger plan to redevelop the Central West area in Adelaide. It includes apartments, retail and an upgraded transport interchange.

The five buildings could be listed like:
Tower A
Tower B
Tower C
Tower D
Tower E

For now, leave the addresses as Franklin Street/Morphett Street as all buildings are closest to this intersection.

thanks ag!

Originally posted by AG
That would hardly be worth it when five 13 level buildings would cost less than one 65 level building for the same amount of space.


Dude, sarcasm, I got plenty of it......

Originally posted by pikey
Dude, sarcasm, I got plenty of it......

Sorry dude, kinda hard to tell over the net sometimes.

Nah she's all good mate, and just to prove how nice I am, I tracked down a copy of todays paper and scanned the tower image, just for you!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/pa9198f21d4b35fc1476b1e22f77be693/fa4797b7.jpg

If this is the standard of 'em, bring em on!!!!

Oh yeah, they are approved too!

Cheers pikestar!

holy snapping duck shit!

Originally posted by pikey
Nah she's all good mate, and just to prove how nice I am, I tracked down a copy of todays paper and scanned the tower image, just for you!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/pa9198f21d4b35fc1476b1e22f77be693/fa4797b7.jpg

If this is the standard of 'em, bring em on!!!!

Oh yeah, they are approved too!
hey pikey, so does that tower rise above Grote steet? is that the church of christ in pic?

There is a story and render in todays AFR ( Dec 18 ) on page 38 called "Bit of Italy for Adelaide's CBD" !
The $400m, 1,300 apartment project is inspired by the Italian hilltop town of San Gimignano. I'm guessing that will be its name ?
It'll bring a minimum of 2,200 new residents into the area. It will incorporate the major bus interchange, squares, piazzas, 600 carparks, commercial outlets, shops, restaurants, cafes, water features and public art.
Five slim towers , each 13 stories + 1 light box level at the top, will dot the site sitting on top of 4-5 storey podiums = 18-19 stories !
The render clearly shows that the 14 story tower sits ABOVE the 4-5 story podium.
Apt prices up to $1m, most in the high $200's- $400k.

Are you telling me it's 5x 18 storey towers?

SCAN IT SPAZ!!!!

I saw it on the news last night and the developer said the towers were tall enough to substantially widen the Adelaide skyline with some impressively tall towers. I taped the article and paused on the models shown and I swear I counted 2 of them at 20 levels.

Woah

Construction to start on the towers in march after demolition and prep work.

Fuck - surely 2003 - 2004 would have to be the biggest development period in SA's history, for sure!!!

How many towers all up in SA now are approved, proposed or under construction????

i knew i counted more than 13 levels in that render, its more like 17-18! wow, pikey remember last year when i said Adelaide will boom especially with CBD highrise apartments! here we go!
ill try and contact architect or builder and see what heights we are looking at!

currently on ss.com we have-
4 -underconstruction
3-approved
11-proposed
thats amazing potential of 18 new scrapers to be added to skyline over next 2-5 years!!

:D

Originally posted by CULWULLA
i knew i counted more than 13 levels in that render, its more like 17-18! wow, pikey remember last year when i said Adelaide will boom especially with CBD highrise apartments! here we go!
ill try and contact architect or builder and see what heights we are looking at!

currently on ss.com we have-
4 -underconstruction
3-approved
11-proposed
thats amazing potential of 18 new scrapers to be added to skyline over next 2-5 years!!

:D

CUL, the article said that the five towers have already been approved. They were approved on Tuesday night.

These 5 have been approved too Cul!!

And this is just the beginning of the boom!!!

oops!
currently on ss.com we have-
4 -underconstruction
8-approved
6-proposed
im awaiting phone call from ruban Construct about official heights. ill let you know when i get em!

Sorry dudes, no scanner. Hope some of you went out and bought a copy of the AFR today !!
I'm staring at the render right now and it shows one of the towers ( the others aren't shown) and it's UNQUESTIONABLY a 14 storey apartment tower sitting ON TOP of a 4, maybe 5, storey podium.
So it's 18, maybe 19 floors- which equals the height of Horizon / Embassy ??? ( maybe even taller if some of those podium floors are commercial )
These babies will really beef up the skyline view from the eastern, west and southern burbs ( not the north ofcourse ) !!!!!

If those buildings are about 18 or 19 levels, it is almost definite that the buildings would be taller as Horizon and The Embassy were limited by a 50m height limit, and the floor heights are below 3m on average. Because the podium levels on these buildings are commercial, the average height of each floor will increase by quite a bit.

By my count:

4 Under construction - Law Courts, 223, Eastwest, Liberty
10 Approved - 110 North Tce, City Cross, Pinnacle, Globe, 19/21 Waymouth, Franklin Street (x5)
13 Proposed - RAA, Bentham, 102/114 Waymouth, Flinders, Hindley, City Central 1, College St (Glenelg), Port Adelaide (x4)
3 Redevelopment - ATO, Air, Rook

27 new + 3 referb = 30.

Now how many doubles and 'snowballs chnce in hell' projects have I listed?

While we're at it, it looks like some buildings need to be added to ss.com (all under proposed):

Flinders Link Office Tower (15 levels)
102-114 Waymouth Street (16 levels, with 9 levels of parking)
Port Adelaide's NewQuays Development (4 towers of 12 levels)

thanks AG. ive added them.
Is 102-114 Waymouth office tower?
Are New quays apartments?
What is port Adelaides post code?
cheers

102-114 Waymouth is a mixture of carparking and office.

All four of NewQuays Buildings are proposed at 12 levels.

Port Adelaide's post code is 5015.

West Central Consortium Wins Historic City West Development



The West Central consortium, a joint venture between Urban Construct and Multiplex, has been selected as the preferred developer for the biggest mixed-use property project in the Adelaide City Council’s history.

In October 2002 the Council purchased the former Balfours Wauchope site on the corner of Franklin and Morphett Streets, diagonally across the road from the Council-owned site on which the Franklin Street Bus Terminal operates.

The bus station redevelopment includes an airport-style transport interchange and a multi storey deck car park for up to 600 cars with vehicle access off Grote Street directly opposite the Central Market

The façade of the original Balfours building will be retained on the corner of Franklin and Morphett Streets.

The design, by architect Denton Corker Marshall, features five, slim, 13-storey towers, two for the Balfours site and three for the Bus Station site, with perimeter apartment buildings of four to five storeys.

Inspired by the Italian hill top town of San Gimignano, the development is a city within a city, with new squares and plazas, commercial premises, retail shops, restaurants, cafes, water features and public art.

Describing the development as ambitious and inspirational, the Lord Mayor, Mr Michael Harbison congratulated the consortium for creating a world-class design which was socially and environmentally-sensitive.

“The proposed development will dramatically increase the City’s population,” Mr Harbison says.

“The development will be a catalyst for injecting new vitality into the street life surrounding the Central Market, railway station and educational and arts centres with 1300 new dwellings which will bring close to 2200 new residents to the city.

“The developers have provided 150 affordable housing units and a further 360 student accommodation beds, making 28 per cent of the development affordable.”

This sounds great!!!

When's kick-off?

Wow nice! Go Adelaide. I think Harbison was the best candidate to be elected as Lord Mayor because he wants to see more High Rise developments in the city. All these new development happeneing in the city in the past year probably all have Harbison innvolved.
BTW- Im new to Skyscrapercity

Originally posted by AG
While we're at it, it looks like some buildings need to be added to ss.com (all under proposed):

Flinders Link Office Tower (15 levels)
102-114 Waymouth Street (16 levels, with 9 levels of parking)
Port Adelaide's NewQuays Development (4 towers of 12 levels)


The Flinders link office tower is only 9 levels.

The Flinders Link Apartment tower is the one that will be 15 levels.


And it is too early to add the Port Adelaide, 12 storey apartment buildings. These buildings are still at the 'vision' stage.

Originally posted by Will
The Flinders link office tower is only 9 levels.

The Flinders Link Apartment tower is the one that will be 15 levels.


And it is too early to add the Port Adelaide, 12 storey apartment buildings. These buildings are still at the 'vision' stage.

Oops @ the apartment and office tower mix-up.

The NewQuays Buildings stage is debatable. They have all been announced, though it may be that not all of them get built.

Originally posted by AG
Oops @ the apartment and office tower mix-up.

The NewQuays Buildings stage is debatable. They have all been announced, though it may be that not all of them get built.

When I see the plans for Port Adelaide there are parts of Port Adelaide that have 'up to 12 storeys residential'.

Hopefully we'll get the 4 x 12 storey residetial buildings, but the anti-progress people might influence the result, just like they did at Glenelg.

5 x 18 level towers eh! This project is fantastic news for Adelaide – sounds like it's truly boom time. The new scrapers should help extend the Adelaide skyline south and west. This is a pretty flat part of the CBD from memory and it always looked silly to me having the height created by the buildings on the western side of Vic Square such as the Hilton step down so abruptly to one and two storeys. What's more, DCM, the architects, can usually be relied upon for a very slick result. Brilliant stuff!

:D :colgate:

I spoke to Newquays architects on Friday about heights ect . He said the 5 towers "range" from 13-18 storeys high or 40-60m in height. he indicated the first one will commence next year and built over period of 5 years or 1 tower per year!
Not sure which one is scheduled to start first or how tall? he is still to get back to me with more info.
Its great news though!
cheers

BLOCKBUSTER
Italian inspiration for $400m City West project
By RENATO CASTELLO
The City Messenger, 22/12/03, Page 1

AN ITALIAN Tuscan village is the inspiration behind one of the biggest property projects in the Adelaide City Council's history.

The council has revealed plans for the $400 million redevelopment of its Balfours Wauchops site and Franklin St bus depot.

The development by West Central Consortium - a joint venture between Urban Construct and Multiplex-has been inspired by the World Heritage listed tower city of San Gimignano.

The council selected the West Central Consortium for the project last Tuesday, December 16. The project, designed by architect Denton Corker Marshall will feature:
• Five slim 13-storey towers, two for the Balfours site and three for the bus station site with premiere apartment buildings of four to five storeys;
• 1300 new dwellings, including 150 affordable units and 360 student accommodation beds;
• Bus station redevelopment with an airport-style transport interchange and multi-storey car park for up to 600 vehicles,
• New squares and plazas, offices, shops, restaurants, cafes, water features and public art to create a "city within a city".
The Balfours building facade will be retained on the Franklin-Morphett streets corner.

Lord Mayor Michael Harbison described the development as ambitious and inspirational: "catalyst for injecting new vitality into the streetlife surrounding the Central Market, railway station and educational and arts centres".

http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/blockbuster.jpg
Concepts for the new airport-style bus station, viewed from Franklin St and Grote St (Inset), part of the 5400 million Central West project

Towering village that inspired city project
The City Messenger, 22/12/03, Page 4

THE Tuscan village of San Gimignano (below) in Italy has Inspired the $400m Central West project. It is a;
• Medieval city set on hill 334m high dominating the Elm Valley in Tuscany, 56km south of Florence;
• Population: 7000
• Known as San Gimignano delle belle fort (of the Beautiful Towers), because of its towers, with 14 remaining from an original 72;
• The towers date back to the 11th and 13th century;
• The towers were built as a sign of wealth and power.
• City was World Heritage-listed on December 12, 1990.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/adamtre/tuscan.jpg
More towers will be built behind the old Balfours factory facade.

Wow, awesome renderings. Looks like it is the 18 levels spaz was talking about in the first place! :)

Excellent picture!

Once complete these towers will really stand out in the Adelaide skyline; not only because of their unique architecture but because they are located outside the main tower areas of the CBD.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pc6671603f9e08c828b2dbfd8e3a705a4/f9c7294d.jpg

For full article: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pc6671603f9e08c828b2dbfd8e3a705a4/f9c7294d.jpg.orig.jpg

Couple more pics from Urban Construct's website (http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/futWestCent.html ):

http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/images/westcentral_artists.jpg

http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/images/westcentral_artists2.jpg

Woah! That looks awesome!

By the way, what's with that ramp thinggy? Is that carpark?

Originally posted by AG
Woah! That looks awesome!

By the way, what's with that ramp thinggy? Is that carpark?

looks like the new "airport style" bus terrminal.

...bump!

May update from ACC: www.adelaide.sa.gov.au/council/publications/Newsletters/Balfours_Briefing_May04.pdf

Seems the ACC are currently negotiating with the consortium over the finer details of the development with a view to having the final design scheme endorsed in August - hopefully we'll get some decent renders not long afterward.

Alas construction probably won't begin before mid-2005 :wallbash: but atleast when it does it will begin on both sites simultaneously :)

I actually think it would be better to have this project constructed a bit later than straight away. Sure it would be good to have this project done quickly, but the state of the residential property prices probably would have improved by then. It'd also be better to have some development now, some later on, rather than all on at one go and overloading the market.

Judging from the following article, it looks a bit like the new bus station might be built first:

Funding Approved for New Airport Style Bus Depot and Car Park in Grote Street

The Adelaide City Council has allocated $2.75 million for work to start in 2004-5 on a new $19 million bus terminal in Grote Street.

This new six storey airport style terminal will replace the existing Franklin Street coach station, orginally built late in the 1960s

The new Bus Station will have 17 bus bays, central passenger lounge, a dedicated freight facility and a 600 space public car park on the top four floors.

The design separates passenger, bus and freight movements and provides one way coach access through the site.

“Adelaide has waited far too long to have an modern, welcoming and appropriate point of entry for bus travellers and tourists to the City and the State,’ Lord Mayor, Mr Michael harbison says.

“Every year more than 270,000 people travel through the Franklin Street bus terminal and they have to contend with a facility that has long outserved its usefulness and appeal.

“The bold new design planned for the site in Grote Street will inject vitality and vibrancy into the Central West precinct and create a new City Pride among the people who visit, live, work and study in the area.”

The Bus Station will be fully covered, and have drop-off zones externally for private and commercial vehicles, and a separate freight drop-offzone.

The freight drop-off zone will be accessed via ramps to an upper level, which enables queuing of vehicles within the site. Freight will then be transported down to its dispatch area via a `hoist and
conveyor for loading on buses.

Internally, there will be check-in and luggage facilities, an appropriately wide pedestrian concourse, a waiting area with toilets parenting and locker facilities, tourist information, and an internet cafe.

There will be a mix of commercial tenancies and the administration functions of the Bus Station located on the first floor.

:)

http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/images/westcentral_artists.jpg

Sorry, comes from ACC website

Here are some clearer renders from Woodhead's site:

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/319/westcentral1.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/320/westcentral2.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/321/westcentral3.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/322/westcentral4.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/323/westcentral5.jpg

Looks good... I'm not a fan of the coloured highlights, but they might grow on me...

Good find Pants. I quite like the colour. Adelaide's got so many drab concrete boxes from the 70's that it'll be an effective distraction

West Central
City Central
...East Central?... just for symmetry

I know I'm just stating the obvious but Adelaide's skyline is going to be radically changed with this development, plus all the other towers around the city. Can't wait to see how the city will look like in 5 years!

I really like these buildings, they will provide a modern touch to a part of the city, that at the moment looks pretty grey.

Bump. Balfours is nearly gutted internally, lunch time today the doors were open and nearly all of the machinery is gone. Expect demolition soon.

Mobile crane on site now at Balfours. Getting more serious now maybe?

Sounds good, I'm really looking forward to this development beginning in earnest. Council have more or less approved the development in its current form, in spite of the 17 storey towers exceeding the height limits for this part of the CBD - so we're looking at 5x 52 metre towers. Bus station is due to start in the first half of next year.
http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/council/publications/PAR/04_CentralWest/Balfours_PAR_Fact_Sheet_Nov04.pdf

The towers themselves are due to start around June 05. I figure all I have to do is drink myself into oblivion and it'll be 6 months gone before I know it!


When are we (I :p) going to get the cameras cranking on this one? Are we interested in all the remedial work or will we wait for them to start digging big fucken holes everywhere?

I'm waiting for the holes. Feel free to go photo happy now though for those fond before/after visions once the place is complete... :)

the thing that REALLY annoys me about adelaide is all the devlopers going "okay were building 5!!! 52m towers near the bus station, wheee!" what they SHOULD be doing is building 1!!!! 260m tower and we all go "ahhh, ooooh, eeeeh, wheee!"

its more common sense and SCREW the height limits, 300m SHOULD be the max limit for adelaide, u dont want it getting over crowded.

the thing that REALLY annoys me about adelaide is all the devlopers going "okay were building 5!!! 52m towers near the bus station, wheee!" what they SHOULD be doing is building 1!!!! 260m tower and we all go "ahhh, ooooh, eeeeh, wheee!"

its more common sense and SCREW the height limits, 300m SHOULD be the max limit for adelaide, u dont want it getting over crowded.

They're going for a village feel mate so that's one reason for the 5 x 52m towers.

While it would be nice to have a 260m tower in this city, it would look grossly out of place there. Personally, for that part of the city, I'd prefer to have the density of the current proposals.

As for height limit, I would have liked some of the City Central towers to have been a bit larger, but I guess it's all a question of demand.

Hopefully we'll get a tower around the same height or taller than Santos some time soon though, just to even things out a bit.

sometime sounds like another 10 years to me.... ohhhhhhhhh!

It actually makes a lot more sense to build 5 smaller buildings than one tall one. The taller one of equal space would cost a hell lot more to build than the 5 ones that are going to be built, and there's tonnes of space left at ground level to occupy.

Its may be less costly to build 5 smaller buildings than one big one
now but that will not be the case in the future with the lack
of suitable development land to dry up in the next 20 years prices
of land will skyrocket then a developer will forced to build up
to recoup the cost of paying for the expensive land....

redstar are you a Red Star (aka Crvena Zvezda) Football Club supporter?

Its may be less costly to build 5 smaller buildings than one big one
now but that will not be the case in the future with the lack
of suitable development land to dry up in the next 20 years prices
of land will skyrocket then a developer will forced to build up
to recoup the cost of paying for the expensive land....

I really do not think there is a shortage of land suitable for development across Adelaide. In fact there's tonnes of it, a lot of the sites have never really been developed beyond one or two levels though, particularly in the southern half and parts of the western side, where the buildings now are only just beginning to be built above 5 levels. The cost of land is increasing, but it is not increasing that rapidly across the centre. Those dollars that Urban Construct save by building five smaller buildings could be used much more effectively in other projects, rather than in one massive tower which few people care about.

nah, i dont like soccer. i like the color red and i like stars so i combined them together. REDSTAR!

First problem for the Balfours site:

Today's 'Tiser makes mention that AAL is currently studying the impact of the towers into Adelaide Airport's emergency air space. Their investigations revealed that the buildings would penetrate the 80m clearance allocated over buildings in the airport's emergency flight zone.

The towers may also have to be shortened in height, or the emergency flight path change, which would be expensive. A study by AAL on the impact is about to commence.

First problem for the Balfours site:

Today's 'Tiser makes mention that AAL is currently studying the impact of the towers into Adelaide Airport's emergency air space. Their investigations revealed that the buildings would penetrate the 80m clearance allocated over buildings in the airport's emergency flight zone.

The towers may also have to be shortened in height, or the emergency flight path change, which would be expensive. A study by AAL on the impact is about to commence.

Boy, wouldn't that make future tall buildings a issue generally? I think maybe AAL needs to change it's emergency path. It might cost more now but in the long run it's probably going to be better for the city.

High-rise projects in parts of southern Sydney have had a similar problem to this project AFAIK. I don't think you'd see a plane flying at an altitude of less than 500 feet over the western part of the CBD, thats an unbelievably low height for a plane to fly at 6km from it's landing spot, besides the buildings would only penetrate into the 80m height from the emergency flight path or whatever it is by a few metres.

First problem for the Balfours site:

Today's 'Tiser makes mention that AAL is currently studying the impact of the towers into Adelaide Airport's emergency air space. Their investigations revealed that the buildings would penetrate the 80m clearance allocated over buildings in the airport's emergency flight zone.

The towers may also have to be shortened in height, or the emergency flight path change, which would be expensive. A study by AAL on the impact is about to commence.

That would be a real shame if it is true (as opposed to a typical Advertiser beat-up). Seems strange though considering there are other buildings of similar height almost adjacent the site eg the Hilton. And as Al pointed out, why couldn't they just re-route the emergency path slightly?

High-rise projects in parts of southern Sydney have had a similar problem to this project AFAIK. I don't think you'd see a plane flying at an altitude of less than 500 feet over the western part of the CBD, thats an unbelievably low height for a plane to fly at 6km from it's landing spot, besides the buildings would only penetrate into the 80m height from the emergency flight path or whatever it is by a few metres.

I think they were refering to emergency landings were the plane will possibly be flying low.

Why is it that the planes can't come in from the sea during an emergency? It seems to make more sense because if you are in a geniune emergency and there's no way of landing, wouldn't be better to ditch in the ocean than over the cbd and surrounding burbs? How about Parafield - can't that accommodate emergency landings? :dunno:

From what I've heard the towers in the Balfours section may loose up to 3 levels, but the towers at the bus station (2?) will gain 3. The ACC is firm on the number of apartments they want out of this project

Emergency Flight Path!!! What a damn joke.

If the current flight path is current between North Adelaide
and Adelaide with it leaning more towards North Adelaide
how are the towers at the Balfours site going to be in
the way of the emergency flight path. Are the aircraft going to
do sharp hook turns past the 18 st Embassy building and then
try to fly between the Balfours site towers.

Sounds very like foolish behaviour from the AAL management.
Can't build building close to a flight path thats damn hog
wash, remember Hong Kongs old airport.... that had tall
scrapers before and after the flight path let alone
a long way to the side of the flight path...

The Adelaide City Council should tell the AAL management
to go jump and if they arent satisfied with the arrangement
then they should think about moving the Airport
up North.....

Emergency Flight Path!!! What a damn joke.

If the current flight path is current between North Adelaide
and Adelaide with it leaning more towards North Adelaide
how are the towers at the Balfours site going to be in
the way of the emergency flight path. Are the aircraft going to
do sharp hook turns past the 18 st Embassy building and then
try to fly between the Balfours site towers.

Sounds very like foolish behaviour from the AAL management.
Can't build building close to a flight path thats damn hog
wash, remember Hong Kongs old airport.... that had tall
scrapers before and after the flight path let alone
a long way to the side of the flight path...

The Adelaide City Council should tell the AAL management
to go jump and if they arent satisfied with the arrangement
then they should think about moving the Airport
up North.....

:applause:

i have never had a liking to the AAL....i dont know why....i just never have liked them i have always felt negative about them now i think i no why...

*sings with chorus*

Aaaaaaaaa- mennnnnnnn

HalleujahhhhhhHHH!

ahhhhmeeeeennnnnnnn

halleujah!!!!

*stands up on stool*

friends, family we have gethered here today to celebrate the revolt of the people and the AAL.

(lol, sorry fellas, redstars bit drunk, but ill post it anyway)

Glad to see that many of you
agree with my comments.

Have to add. What the hell
is AAL thinking that the
aircraft will fly between
the Balfours site towers
and make an emergency
landing, where???? in the
South Park Lands
hahahahahahahaha....

Did someone tell them that
the Balfours site is close to the
center of the city and
not on the corner of
North Terrace and West Terrace
at the New Market Hotel
hahahahahah....

aal just want media attention

First problem for the Balfours site:

Today's 'Tiser makes mention that AAL is currently studying the impact of the towers into Adelaide Airport's emergency air space. Their investigations revealed that the buildings would penetrate the 80m clearance allocated over buildings in the airport's emergency flight zone.

The towers may also have to be shortened in height, or the emergency flight path change, which would be expensive. A study by AAL on the impact is about to commence.

I have a feeling this project will end up going down the toilet. From past experiences when people or organisations start complaing about a project, it ends up being cancelled or turned into something small and crap ( Platinum at Glenelg is a perfect example) This pathetic attitude is definately turning away any potential developers or investors.

I have a feeling this project will end up going down the toilet. From past experiences when people or organisations start complaing about a project, it ends up being cancelled or turned into something small and crap ( Platinum at Glenelg is a perfect example) This pathetic attitude is definately turning away any potential developers or investors.

Being a council development, I'm pretty confident it'll go ahead in some form mate.

I think it's time for the powers that be to think long term and change the emergency flight path so that growth of the west end isn't obstructed in future.

Being a council development, I'm pretty confident it'll go ahead in some form mate.

.


That's what Im scared of! It might get turned into 3 or 4 level townhouses for low-income earners. ( not very exciting )

Advertiser 4th May

Noticed a call for tenders for the new franklin st bus terminal.

Looks like something is finally starting to happen on this front!!!

anything else interesting in that article? i.e. when construction/demolition begins?

Dont think so, but it was a specific call for tenders
for bus companies, retail companies etc to express
their interest in the proposed new bus terminal.

All i noted was that it looks that they have finally
decided to try and get it happening.

Bump for those who haven't figured out there's a Quick-Links thread.

is this UC?

Not yet, i think theyre waiting for an appropriate location for the re-location of the bus depot while its u/c. the old adeliade airport terminal may act as a relocator. under consideration.

According to urban constructs website the Balfours/West Central project is down as a current project not a future one. Has any work started?

There are great new renders on Urban Construct's site. Can anyone work out how to hotlink them on here? They're in flash and I'm not having any luck.

Screen capture and store it on your own image site - I think that's the only way you can off of flash

There are great new renders on Urban Construct's site. Can anyone work out how to hotlink them on here? They're in flash and I'm not having any luck.

I didn't see any new renders for citywest.. any chance you can do a print screen and paste it into photoshop or something for us?

Here's the renders:

http://bradjc.gallery.netspace.net.au/albums/album03/uc_city_west_1.jpg


http://bradjc.gallery.netspace.net.au/albums/album03/uc_city_west.jpg

Great stuff mate.

How did you do it?

Just a print screen and some c/p ie post #85

There's still a few issues regarding one crash repairs business that is currently located on the site to be redeveloped, and this is holding up the development. The business claims that its concerns over relocation are being ignored by the council.

I've heard more about the crash repair shop. Apparently ACC, the shop and a court. ACC lost.

With such a large scale project
why doesnt the council just bite
the bullet and pay for the small
businesses relocation cost to a
suitable premises.

Couldnt cost that much

Channel 9 News just had something on the new bus station... I've recorded it for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/_citywest/newbus.avi

8.8mb AVI DivX - sorry bout the aspect ratio.. something went wrong there.

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/_citywest/bus1.jpg
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/_citywest/bus2.jpg
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/_citywest/bus_model.jpg

Main points
* Builder appointed, started contract, work to begin immediately.
* $25 million dollar 15 bay station, carpark and 39 apartment to be built by hansen yuncken (http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/) adjacent to current station.
* station to be open sept 2007. building to commence march 2006.

Hm, so I guess the problem with the crash repairer in the way is resolved?

Yeh, apparently a deal has been reached.

If you listen really carefully to the newsreader, then pause really quickly. :) "Stt..."

btw is the aspect ratio stuffed for u too? i just wanna make sure it wasn't just me.

btw is the aspect ratio stuffed for u too? i just wanna make sure it wasn't just me.

Yes. I might record one next time as well although the file will probably be huge even for a few minutes worth.

cheers. it was 38mb before i compressed it to divx. i better check my settings next time.. was in a hurry when recording it :)

Wow many thanks for recording it.
I was still at work straight after a meeting at the time and caught a glimps of a screen as I was passing by a colleugues office. I saw the big BUS word and I wasnt sure what It was (I hadnt noticed it on the render). Hopefully thats just for the Render and wont be there. Looks really cheap.

i reckon its realli good that the cbd is expanding away from the general area north terrace, grenfell, waymouth, (northern) king william street sorta area...
whenever i drive along carrington, hutt or gillies streets, i think to myself...am i realli still in the cbd?? hopefully one day these areas will become more prosperous and alive. But City West is definately a start

Thanks Howie, No problem viewing it although everyone looked a little too tall and thin. Now only if you could do that to me...

Mants Altough I agree, Id rather work on having that North Western Corner Bulk up before we expanded outwards.

The building will have the words BUS displayed on it so
interstate and overseas visitors know where the
city's BUS station is otherwise it looks just like any other
building...

Great to see this one finally go ahead and hopefully
in the timely manner mention. Todays paper has
another render and mention about it.

It also mentions that once the BUS station is complete
the adjacent appartment buildings City West can
be built.

This will be a great project for Adelaide and with all
the other buildings popping up such as City Central,
Bentham, Santos, IAG, Pirie, Conservatory on Hindmarsh,
SA Water on Angus St/Victoria Square etc etc
the City will certainly look quite a lot different hope
it continues with many more proposals and constructions
to come.
in a couple of years time.

Mants Altough I agree, Id rather work on having that North Western Corner Bulk up before we expanded outwards.

I agree, I'd like to see the North Western, and even the North Eastern corners bulked up, but I'm just saying that the CBD will look more impressive with some modern highrises outside of the general clump.
But meh, its all good, we've needed a new bus terminal for so long, IMO it was even worse than the airport terminals. They were both embarrassing. These are the first signs that Adelaide has really taken a step into the 21st century.

Yes, finally new bus and airport terminals that bring/will bring us well into the 21st century. However, imho, the challenge isnt to build them, but to ensure that such facilities now stay modern and up to date, and dont fall into the state they once did.

Thank god we have a new bus terminal - the old one was starting to piss me off, it wud get so overcrowded and congested. The services were unreliable, not to mention the general crankiness of the bus drivers as they entered the terminal cos it was so narrow.

I agree, I'd like to see the North Western, and even the North Eastern corners bulked up, but I'm just saying that the CBD will look more impressive with some modern highrises outside of the general clump.
But meh, its all good, we've needed a new bus terminal for so long, IMO it was even worse than the airport terminals. They were both embarrassing. These are the first signs that Adelaide has really taken a step into the 21st century.
I suppose now its like its own 'mini' Skyline!

Dont be surprised if the new bus terminal opens before the airport terminal!!!!!!!!!!!

2007 - bus terminal.... hmmm
2c says the airport takes longer.

come on guys... early jan next year for the airport to open. Let's not exaggerate the problem.

After how many days of repeated delays? ;)

Im waiting for the next Drama to unfold with the airport! Its so exciting....Whats the problem today?

Anyway, back on track, are all the renders the final designs?

i think so, but the colour scheme looks a lil tacky - like the fluro-clours of the Air Apartments. ugh.

i love those colours of the air apartments

I am really happy with the new bus station. Just for the sake of it I visited the current bus station and I have to say that it was a greater embarrassment than our old airport. The current facility is so small, crowded and definately not first world. It would still dissapoint me if it was the bus terminal of a regional city like Mount Gambier, but for it to be the central bus station for a capital city of over a million people it is truly a disgrace. The council should be commended for finally bitting the bullet and starting work on this.

I am also happy that this project will add some bulk to Grote Street, even though it is small the 6 level student accomodation building has made a nice impact and I'm sure this will too.

'nice impact' bah!

theres 6 towers of 17 floors, itll have a GREAT impact.

GREAT NEWS ADELAIDE >>> IT'S A GO-AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Promise of 2200 jobs in city site revamp
By LOUISE TRECCASI
08mar06
THE $500 million Balfours site and bus station transformation in the city finally has the go-ahead, amid promises it will create more than 2200 construction jobs.

The project's developers say the new jobs are expected to inject about $300 million into the city. The seven-year West Central project at the former Balfours site on the corner of Franklin and Morphett streets and the Franklin St Bus Station site is one of the CBD's largest developments.

An agreement has been signed between Adelaide City Council and development consortium Urban Construct and Multiplex Developments.

West Central will feature a new bus interchange, five 17-storey towers and housing for more than 2000 people in 1300 dwellings, 360 of these for student accommodation. The project also will feature retail space, public art, landscaping and a community building.

Stage one, to begin next month, will include the long-awaited $26 million "airport-style" bus interchange and 638 public car park places.

The project was designed by Woodhead International and Melbourne-based Denton Corker Marshall. Urban Construct director Todd Brown said West Central was a landmark project for the CBD.

"The West Central development will provide a significant new investment in the CBD, where we continue to see strong demand for apartment living and student accommodation," he said.

Multiplex Development director Bruce Rippin said the project would integrate bold new designs with existing heritage and environmental features and would provide a world-class bus interchange facility.

:cheers: :cheers:

Its about bloody time this fine city gets a decent bus interchange, i was at the current terminal last friday and i felt like i was in war torn iraq not a western world country, i was outraged and disgusted with it, not a good first impression at all!!!
currently its SA's Biggest Embrassment!!!!

currently its SA's Biggest Embrassment!!!!
has anyone been to our cruise ship port recently?
:runaway: now thats an embarassment

Outer Harbour is used for more then just cruise ship arrivals.

The City West Project without doubt would have to be the biggest CBD development in recent times. It will add much needed height away from the core business areas of Waymouth/Pirie/Grenfell Streets. The intergrated bus terminal will give an outstanding first impression to our much valued visitors who for whatever reason dont elect to fly in.

Beautification of West Terace (undergrounding power lines and adding appropriate trees) will have a massive impact from the western side of the CBD. There are also other areas which are prime candidates for this style of development. I am referring to Grote Street/Gouger Street. It will incease the cities population, make it more vibrant especially outside of business hours (such as around Hutt Street.) Give it time and we will have the best CBD especially as its completely surrounded by parklands.

Beautification of West Terace (undergrounding power lines and adding appropriate trees) will have a massive impact from the western side of the CBD. There are also other areas which are prime candidates for this style of development. I am referring to Grote Street/Gouger Street. It will incease the cities population, make it more vibrant especially outside of business hours (such as around Hutt Street.) Give it time and we will have the best CBD especially as its completely surrounded by parklands.


WHAT WHAT, r they (acc) going to do this?? great

I agree in a couple of years time this city will be fantastic, and will give other major capital cities massive competion!!!

Curious to know what the forum thinks will be the demand for 1300 apartments here/5 towers. Obviously it will be in stages, but usually they need to sell approx. 70% to get the finance to go ahead. Do you remember the Fresh development at Glenelg [facing the Buffalo on Anzac H'Way] getting canned for not enough pre-sales? Even with uni accom. [who only rent] they are relying on investors - I reckon capital growth/return will be low with so many similar apartments here. Maybe I'm being too negative but IF the demand [read buyers] are not there do the apartments get built or will the ACC [read Adelaide City Ratepayers] build it regardless and take the losses?

Depending on how much they'll cost .. i'd seriously consider buying an apartment. I'd have to be pretty competitive considering the studio student apartments going up next door to alpha apartments are selling from $210k.

crawf I cant confirm nor deny an upgrade for west terrace but Im certain that its in the pipeline. Does anyone know anymore regarding this?

Hey guys. I found this on the Multiplex website. Similar to the article above but I thought you might want to see it. Sounds like a really exciting project!

The $500 million Balfours site and Franklin Street redevelopment, known as West Central, has been given the green light following an agreement between Adelaide City Council and the development consortium Urban Construct and Multiplex Developments.
The development, which is located on the corner of Morphett and Franklin Streets, is the biggest project ever undertaken in Adelaide’s CBD, and includes 1,300 new dwellings and 360 student accommodation beds.

Urban Construct CEO Todd Brown said, "We’re excited to be moving forward on this exceptional development , a landmark project for the Adelaide CBD.

"The West Central development will provide a significant new investment in the CBD, where we continue to see strong demand for apartment living and student accommodation," Mr Brown said.

"We have spent considerable time and energy designing a complex which will provide not only a world class bus interchange facility, but quality housing," Mr Brown said.

"A major part of the seven year West Cental project includes the long-awaited $26 million bus station and 638 public car parks. The quality of the new bus station will be world-class with designs to incorporate airport-style terminals.

"The new bus station, along with Adelaide’s new International Airport, will certainly put South Australia on the map for its key transport hubs."

Multiplex Development’s Director Bruce Rippin said, "The West Central project will integrate bold new designs with existing heritage, and will set new South Australian standards in 'eco efficiency'. AAA rated water fixtures and appliances will be standard, rain water will be collected and re-used, solar hot water will be used, demolition materials will be recycled and separate recycling facilities will be provided for."

The project will include retail space and is just minutes away from key CBD sites such as the Central Markets, Gouger Street and the University of South Australia’s City West campus.

'West Central is a huge boost for Adelaide as it will create 2,200 jobs during construction, providing a direct injection of some $300 million into the city," Mr Rippin said.

"Public art, landscaping and a community building will also be included in the $500m redevelopment."

Multiplex and Urban Construct are also behind the transformation of the Port Adelaide waterfront, through their joint Newport Quays development. Pointing to the strength of the local residential property market, Newport Quays has already secured more than $80 million in sales since marketing begin late last year.

For further information contact:

Todd Brown, Urban Construct - 0418 842 334
Bruce Rippin, Multiplex Developments - 0409 696 234

To put pictures here, first you need to upload the image to a host.
Try www.imageshack.us or photobucket.com

once its uploaded to a host, you copy the url of the image.
then use the tags to post the picture.
the URL should be pasted between the here

ahh didnt notice that Rev, i posted the same thing in the irrelevant thread

This is excellent news for Adelaide! It is a marvellous project that I am confident will add more life and more vibe to the CBD. The key to adding the vibe to the CBD is to increase the CBD's population, and I am confident this project will deliver on this. The bus terminal is also long overdue, and it will replace another Adelaide embarassment.

However I think the title of this project should not be 'construction' as work is still a month away. And also the towers are still around 18 months away, as construction on those can only start once the new bus terminal is open.

Depending on the design this project should sell well just on location.

Being so near to Central Market is a huge plus. Over the longer term
it should mean a lot to the retail outlets in the area. From memory that
exact part of Adelaide City has a lot of lower grade retail buildings
that I'd expect to be replaced over time. Any thoughts on this by
people living in Adelaide?

[QUOTE=chang4]Depending on the design this project should sell well just on location.

Damn right it will sell on location, I would give an arm and leg to live there.

Is construction still starting next month for the new bus terminal and how long will it take to complete????

Today's press release.


Work will start on Monday on the new Adelaide Bus Station and Car Park in Grote St and new paving works on Rundle Street, which also features a public art work.

The projects are Adelaide City Council Capital Works programs which will improve the City for visitors, residents and workers.

Visitors, traders, workers and residents in the City may experience some disruptions as a result of the work, including the closure of Grote Street UPark and traffic and parking restrictions on Rundle Street. The Rundle Street project is expected to take three months to complete, while the bus station project will take approximately 18 months.

Adelaide Lord Mayor Mr Michael Harbison said that Adelaide has been experiencing its biggest development boom, and these projects would add to the development work being undertaken by private developers around the City.

"The people of Adelaide have been very supportive and understanding of the major development work going on in the City.

"We have all been aware that the bus station site needs redevelopment, and we will finish with a state of the art bus station and a 600 space car park, tripling the parking capacity of the current Grote Street UPark.

"Rundle Street traders will be very pleased that work is starting on the paving on the North side of Rundle Street.

"The design of the Adelaide means that even major works such as the development of the new Adelaide Bus Station result in limited inconvenience for most people and there are plenty of options available for City visitors, workers and residents.”

The Grote Street UPark will close on Sunday as the site is prepared for the commencement of works. There will be no parking available in Grote Street UPark from Monday.

There are plenty of options available to people who usually park in the Grote Street UPark, including close car parks available on Pitt Street between Grote and Franklin Street, on Mill Street between Gouger and Wright Street, and in a number of car parks around Waymouth Street, including Topham UPark.

Work in Rundle Street will result in traffic restrictions as well as parking restrictions. One lane of traffic will be closed and two-way traffic will be controlled by temporary traffic lights, with traffic flowing one way past the section of the works at a time.

The works will start at the corner of Rundle Street and East Terrace and will work down towards Pulteney Street, with work expected to finish in late June.

Rundle Street, the Rundle UPark offers more than 700 car parking spaces and Frome UPark, located at 22 – 30 Frome Street between North Terrace and Rundle Street, offers more than 370 car parking spaces.

Visitors to the City are also encouraged to take public transport and to seek information from private car parks for their opening times.

GREAT - the sooner this is built, the better!!!

slightly of the topic - but thats great news there also going to re-pave rundle st (it needs it badly)

Pave Rundle.
Is that the footpaths, or the road?

I would say it would be the footpath

now back to the topic - does anyone have any renders of inside the bus terminal or the plaza

Looks like the New Adelaide Bus Station is starting to get built. They
have enclosed in fencing the eastern part of the Old Franklin St Bus
Station for demolition in preparation for the development
of the New Bus Station.

Yes that carpark on Grote street is all fenced off too.

cool!!!!

Just an quick update guys, drove the mrs to the airport today which is why I didnt have my camera with me. There is some serious demolition work happening at the rear of the bus station which fronts grote street. Good to see another large scale project underway in our now booming city centre. Cheers!

Wehn i went up north a while back to my cuzns place, i saw them doin the demo work to the other bus terminal... looked pretty darn cool the dozer going whakc into the wall.

Yeah, I'm going to have to check it out next time I'm down that side of town. I can't wait to see some cranes that side of city. :D

Pics from today

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0047.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0051.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0052.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0053.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0054.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/PIC_0056.jpg

Thanks heaps!
lol at the worker in the last pic.

nice pics thanks mate

Ive lost track of where this project is at - I know that the bus station is commencing construction but that site looks a tad bigger than just the bus station to me - anyone know if one of the towers is starting construction as well?

Third picture from bottom.

Why doest the ACCC or the Government step in and buy those
deralict warehouses and sleepland (whatever) and expand the
site up to the lane...

It's actually a heritage listed church. it is really run down and prob should be demolished. Good luck convincing the council of that though.

Thanks Aceman. Mayor Harbison is delivering what the market traders wanted and credit to him. I recommend to some of the posters to get on the city circle bus (free from Vic Square) and go around both ways. Also try the tram to Glenelg. One can see a lot more than from a motor car.

It's actually a heritage listed church. it is really run down and prob should be demolished. Good luck convincing the council of that though.

You maths is hopeless and your intellect isnt much better as i was referring to the warehouses infront of the carpark in the pic you can see the Santos Building and Telstra Exchange. A warehouse does not look like a heritage church you fool. I know they arent going to demolish the church what i was asking was why dont they buy and demolish those ugly looking warehouses that will border the new bus station and appartments. Its funny how Adelaide and especially the ACCC like to do things half hearted. Instead of making the precinct look good, they leave these unsightly eyesores next door to dull the place down.

Just hope that one day they will get knocked down and replace with something more appealling.

^ Most probably because the warehouses are private property, and/or beyond the scope of the development. There's a lot of sites about, they're not going to redevelop all of them at once.

There's no need to be rude.

Adelarch: I think it just looks bigger because it's empty.

I also think that was uncalled for. I don't remember having a go at you? I view this forum from work and because it's not really work related I minimise the screen so don't often see the pictures properly. I referred to the church because I was actually thinking the church should be demolished if it is not going to be maintained.

If you want to have little digs at people and/or Adelaide in general perhaps you should find somewhere else to voice your opinion.

Just after some clarification guys, the current site shown in the posted photos above is that where the actual bus station will be or is it for the resi towers, Im confused! Also the street that divides the construction and the bus station I heard is going to be realigned. Cheers dudes!

I also think that was uncalled for. I don't remember having a go at you? I view this forum from work and because it's not really work related I minimise the screen so don't often see the pictures properly. I referred to the church because I was actually thinking the church should be demolished if it is not going to be maintained.

If you want to have little digs at people and/or Adelaide in general perhaps you should find somewhere else to voice your opinion.

Sorry pal, just though it silly for someone to mention the church while i was referring to the warehouses. Yes i know the warehouses are not in the scope of the project however its amazing they didnt consider purchasing them and making them part of the project as it detracts from the project because it is an unsightly eyesore right next door.

Just after some clarification guys, the current site shown in the posted photos above is that where the actual bus station will be or is it for the resi towers, Im confused! Also the street that divides the construction and the bus station I heard is going to be realigned. Cheers dudes!

The Grote street side of the site is where the bus station will be located. But the bus station area will also house a carpark and apartments above the bus station itself.

The taller apartment buildings and the low-rise complex connecting them will be located towards the Franklin Street side.

One serious sandpit:

http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-05-22/picture%20015_std.jpg

From the Truscotts car park, fantastic view of the site.
http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-05-22/picture%20025_std.jpg

Wow, and are they still building the five towers? That block looks tiny!

That's not even half of it, it goes all the way to Grote St on the left, and I believe the yellowish-grey buildings of the bus station on the far side in that photo are coming down too.

Going by Urban Construct's website, this is actually called West Central, and I am still yet to see a render with 5 towers.

Great pics Adam.

Think I'll be making use of that car park view myself for pics during construction.

Urban Construct's site currently has a render with 5 towers on this site with 3 towers on the Balfours site in the background.

Can someone screen-dump it on here?

I'm counting the towers that are connected to each other as seperate towers though, so my numbers might be out.

I was talking 5 towers in one render. :D

I think this shot, looking north from Grote Street shows all the towers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/NewPicture.png

Pant, sorry, but this render is looking from Franklin Street and the directions are South east.

Not sure it can be mate.

I'm not the best at directions, but there are 2 frontages for the bus terminal - Grote and Franklin Street. You'd only be able to see the Bus terminal and the towers on the Balfours site (the towers in the distance in that render) at the same time if you were on Grote Street facing north(west).

Wait a sec, just figured it out, does that render show 3 towers on the bus depot site rather than the Balfours towers in the distance? If so, yeah, you'd be on Franklin Street looking south east.

Good work.

thanks for confusing the hell outta me pants :D

im getting really excited over this project!

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/SV500007-1.jpg

I'm pretty sure this may have already been posted but I had a quick scan of the thread and didn't find it.

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/apps/attachments/1417/Balfours%20Bus%20Station%20Franklin%20Street.jpg
The existing bus station is time expired and unable to meet the needs of the coach industry. Accordingly, a new bus station will be constructed at the extreme eastern end of the existing Grote Street open lot car park. The new bus station will operate as an airport style facility providing a key piece of infrastructure for the City.

The building will include a 630 space public car park above the bus station and South Australian Housing Trust supported accommodation along the western façade. Significant public realm works will be undertaken adjacent to the bus station/car park building.

Key features of the bus station/car park building include:

• 15 coach bays and freight facility.
• Ancillary retail ie. café, newsagent.
• Passenger terminal to front new public plaza.
• Re-aligned Bowen Street (further east) to provide passenger drop off area.
• Public square between heritage elements (Hampshire Hotel and Church of Christ).
• 630 space public car park and supported accommodation at the western façade.

Work on the bus station/car park building is expected to commence in 2006.

nice work LV,

Drove past the site today, and the SA Water site too...excavation work on both

Hey, has anyone done any updated on this yet? And does anybody know when the tower cranes are due! Cant wait for SA Water and City West to have some cranes soon as the city is now lacking in them due to CC1

Repost from Sensational-Adelaide.com (http://www.sensational-adelaide.com)
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43&start=60

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/18Jul06/picture%20007_std.jpg

New website created.

http://www.theprecinctcbd.com.au

Above ground construction has begun with some steel beams in place on the Franklin St. side. Is this project going to have a tower crane? Only one in the city at the moment :(

I thought there was 2

anyway, next year there will be heaps of hi-rise construction :D

Tho i dont think the bus terminal will have a tower crane, but the apartments will.

I thought there was 2

anyway, next year there will be heaps of hi-rise construction :D

Where is this info comin from crawf? Do you know something that you aren't tellin us?

Pistol I think he means due to the fact that so many projects are gonna begin end of this year, start of next year or are u/c. Obviously precinct and Sa water u/c, but tivoli, conservatory, CC2, 379 KWS, should all get under way pretty soon (there are prob more but its 3am and cant think of the rest off top of my head). So in summary should see heaps of cranes midway through next year.

Yep and dont forget Spire, 374-400 KWS, Marina Cove Towers and a few more...

^^Marina Cove isnt in the CBD

but yes, Adelaide will have quite a few cranes and buildings going up come next year

Pics from today. This one is really rising now.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/0022.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/0042.jpg

The second pic shows the extend of the bus depot and affordable housing section. This does not take up the enitire east/west section of the cleared block but does go from Grote Street right back through to Franklin Street. West of the bus depot is where 3 apartment towers are to be constructed. One on the current bus depot. So a large part of the cleared land at the moment will be for the two apartment towers next to the bus station. I am not sure if they exactly fit into this cleared section though.

Cheers for the pics UrbanSG. Finally, some real action! :)

thanks urbanSG :)

From today. This one is going up fast.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/0032-1.jpg

From today, from the usual spot atop Truscotts:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-11-06/picture%20007_std.jpg

Is this the beginnings of a core?
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-11-06/picture%20008_std.jpg

It could be...;)

Comming along nicely. From today.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/180022.jpg

Prison bars here we come. Hopefully they will get covered. From today.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/3-1242.jpg

Thanks for the pics.

I hope they'll cover the prison bars too, it looks like it in the render, but renders are misleading.

:lol: I love to see the skeletons grow!

Well done the boys from Ferrari (They usually get things up quickly)...

Pic from Saturday 16/12. Some different finishes on the top two levels and the residential section being constructed on the western elevation.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/171201.jpg

I've not see too many buildings other than concrete ones go up... it's all you see in Melb. In metal framed buildings, it is usual for the facade to be the first feature applied other than the metal framework itself? Would love to see more pics from the same angle as this one develops UrbanSG :-)

From today:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-12-19/picture%20051_std.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2006-12-19/picture%20052_std.jpg

Lookin good hey. As i mentioned on SA, this thing will be up in no time, and to think that like a month and a half ago there was nothing there...

thanks AtD, its coming up fast indeed.

i also hope those 'prison bars' are covered up, but im just glad we are finally getting a decent bus terminal.

i also hope those 'prison bars' are covered up

If the renders are anything to go by, they will be.

This is comming along nicely, bit of action on the residential section. From today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/00042.jpg

almost makes me want to hop on a bus!

Cheers UrbanSG. It's interesting, given the size of the site, that they're only building the north east corner.

it is a bus depot, gotta park those buses somewhere!

What is the residential section of this building going to be? Hostel, hotel or private accomodation cos I haven't seen them advertised for sale anywhere!

i thought that was only going to be on the other side of the street where Balfours is.

i'm no expert on this project though.

The residential section I am referring to is the affordable housing units being constructed on the western elevation of the bus station. If you refer back to the renders and match it the photos I have taken, it is the 3 levels of square/rectangle boxes you can see being built on the western side above the ground floor. The ground floor up to the red beams will be all glass on the western side. It looks like the main residential towers will begin construction once the bus station is completed. Still a lot of construction to go as the bus station is massive and goes all the way back to Grote Street but it is going up quickly. The area immediately to the west of the bus station is going to be landscaped open space between the station and the towers hence the station is being built to the NE of this large site.

A couple of pictures showing nothing much new that's interesting:

http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2007-02-02/picture%20063_std.jpg

http://www.photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2007-02-02/picture%20066_std.jpg

Bus station really rocketing along now. Started on the Grote Street end to the south now as well. Pics from yesterday, first 2 are from the Grote Street side:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/11-0232.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/11-0242.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/11-0252.jpg

Nice. I haven't seen a render from Grote Street, so I'm curious as to how it'll turn out.

I think it is similar to the Franklin Street frontage but a lower height. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. An area of landscaped open space will be developed adjacent the western side of that Church in the photo and the little historic hotel on the corner to the west which isn't in the photo. This space will link through to Franklin Street. This area will be vastly improved by this development imo, especially if the resi towers go ahead as well.

^^ Is there any doubt on the resi towers? I thought they were a done deal.

In my mind there is always doubt until construction begins. Hell even when construction starts some projects still fall through and stop. The property market is too unpredictable to go on what developers say they are going to do years prior.

A couple of pics from today. Notice the beams up on the northern elevation in the first photo near the 'prison bars'. Should mean the 'BUS' metal covering should be on its way to eventually cover these bars up.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/25023.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/25022.jpg

The 'Bus' metal covering has arrived to cover the 'prison bars'. It will be interesting to see how it comes up once the building is finished. From today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/030312.jpg

it amazes me how quickly large buildings go up and how slowly roadworks progress to completion

Well roadworks cause traffic disruption, building developments dont

god thats starting to look good, cant wait until its complete

This is such a major improvement to that other thing they call the states main bus terminal.

i cant wait for the appartments to be finished, it will give some much needed height in the area

Bit of an update for interstate people not visiting Sensational Adelaide site. Yesterday's Advertiser announced the 2nd stage shown in the render below from the article (pg 19 of the Advertiser) should start by the end of this year. This is on the Morphett Street (Balfours site). Not the best scan sorry:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/scan.jpg

Compared to the original concept:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/Balfours_Site_Persective.png

The new render is different from the original in regards to the 1st 7 storey development which is great. Hopefully this means most of the apartment stages will be different in their design as time goes on to get a bit of variation and reduce the 'commo' appearance of the 1st concepts. Once the bus station is finished later this year we will start getting through more updated renders for that site as well I would think.

This one is moving along. A lot of development on Grote ****** side, didn't manage to get a pic there though. From today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/010462.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/010472.jpg

i said it before and i'll say it again, now the evidence is mounting...

the property market is in decline. we wont see any large resi's going up in the near future. too risky as an investment for developers.

i fully expect Spire as well as the taller Precinct towers to be delayed indefinitely or cancelled.

there may be a shortage in rental properties however these types of developments are niche and not what the greater rental market is currently looking for.

and how do you know this? Are you sure Spire will be delayed further, or are you just speculating?

Speculating and just trying to be negative as usual.

Pic from today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/060452.jpg

Nice nice. I like the north face simply because it's not a box!

Quick pic from today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/210422.jpg

Oh, so it has the render with the towers on the site's fencing.

Yeah. But I believe the tower designs will change.

Because the design for one of the 7st apartment buildings has completely changed - looks way better too.

Yeah. But I believe the tower designs will change.

Because the design for one of the 7st apartment buildings has completely changed - looks way better too.
Yeah, kinda gathered from the renders already posted in the thread that the towers are only conceptual @ this stage. I just think Multiplex Living is displaying its confidence in the towers eventuating by having the render including them on the fence.

Those taller apartments will make excellent accomodation for overseas students being so close to Chinatown. I am very certain that these will go ahead.

Found some clearer renders on the web so I thought I would share. I like this building - love the boxy treatment on the ends.

http://www.theprecinctcbd.com.au/images/gallery/exterior.jpg

http://www.theprecinctcbd.com.au/images/gallery/interior.jpg

Nice find :)

Nice find pistol

any idea when first tower will start

AFAIK, after the Bus Terminal is completed.

Which is due for completion this September.

AFAIK, after the Bus Terminal is completed.

Which is due for completion this September.

I heard the opening was in July....

I found this article on The Precinct website. It is an article out of the Financial Review (March 30) talking about the optimism surrounding a lot of Adelaide's current proposed apartment complexes. Quite an interesting read.

Click here (http://www.theprecinctcbd.com.au/news/Financial%20Review%2030%2003%2007.pdf)

I heard the opening was in July....

That would be awesome if it is now opening in July. This project has been going pretty fast.

Pic from today:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/020522.jpg

Thought I would share these new renders for The Precinct with Y'all. Just a quick before and after to show the differences. Thanks to Howie.

Previously
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/Balfours_Site_Persective.png
And now the new render.
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/images/wcentral/render_20070523.jpg
Looks impressive - Can't wait for the release of one of the talls so we know exactly what to expect out of the other 4.

I thought there were more buildings than just the 2 in the renders.

I thought there were more buildings than just the 2 in the renders.

There are 3 more but those are on the current franklin st bus depot site...
The 2 seen in the render are on the balfours site. Would love an appartment
above the 10th floor in one of those 2 towers bordering close to light square.

Couple of pics from this afternoon. Glass has gone up on a couple of the small apartments.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/260582.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/260592.jpg

Looking good. Have you seen it from the south? It's not as impressive, just the curvy mesh that covers the car park.

More pics, from yesterday:
From a random carpark off Curie Street. I like the new colours:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2007-06-05/picture%20002_std.jpg

From the north west:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2007-06-05/picture%20007_std.jpg

From the south:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/2007-06-05/picture%20008_std.jpg

Couple of pics from today. Some nice finishes being added.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/230632.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/230642.jpg

This area is goin to look really good.
Is this a catalyst or are there other similar large scale resi nearby?

Nothing of this scale in the area. The main areas for resi at the moment seem to be the southern end of King William Street and Hindmarsh Square.

Its going to bring much needed life, I seriously can't wait to see the old bus terminal demolished :D

lol yes, now thats terrible

Comming along nicely. Pic from this arvo.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/UrbanSG/070742.jpg

^^

i dont really understand this building. Is it apartments and a car park? Is it a bus terminal, or will that be another building?

Its everything you have just said

The apartments are what you see in the photo (along the western side), the bus terminal is on the ground floor and the carpark is above that.

I have never seen these apartments advertised anywhere. Are they going to be used as short stay owned by the council or something?

These apartments are affordable housing units. I think are for the housing trust, hence the small size of each apartment. It looks as though some good sound-proofing is occuring between the apartments and bus station/car park as you would hope. This car park is pretty huge too, hopefully it will ease the pressure on the Central Market car park which is nearly always full.

Isn't there plans to redevelop the carpark above the Central Markets?, once this is complete

Did any one ever catch a bus from the old terminal? I used quite alot when i was younger and it was disgusting, not only that but you kind of feel embarassed to think this is the first thing travellers see when entering the state.

Yeah I have a few times