renderings in advertiser look pretty impressive - contreversial though as holdfast council oppose development but it going ahead and will be built on colley reserve or there abouts

http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/images/platinum_artist.jpg

This one means goodbye magic mountain, yeah?

Originally posted by Adder-Laid
This one means goodbye magic mountain, yeah?

I think the area where the green stuff is in the pic is the current magic mountain site. The old proposal had a fun park and 16 level tower, stupid NIMBY pricks.

Originally posted by yob
I think the area where the green stuff is in the pic is the current magic mountain site. The old proposal had a fun park and 16 level tower, stupid NIMBY pricks.

The new proposal still does have a fun park. The proposal for the Magic Mountain site is to the left of the picture. I don't mind the 9 level building, still better than no building at all, though the 15 level building would have been better to some extent.

"A similar story is being told in Adelaide, with the proposed Platinum on the Beach residential development west of the city.

Developer Todd Brown said 120 of 130 flats had been sold off the plan, even before state government approval"
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8360389%255E25658,00.html
:guns1:

Gentlemen,

Allow me to introduce myself...........I am the Engineering Project Leader on thisproject and also Libert Towers and Pier Hotel etc..........If you have any technical questions about these buildings please dont hesitate to ask.

P.S. There is an Entertainment building contained within this project with slides etc.

Originally posted by Calatrava
Gentlemen,

Allow me to introduce myself...........I am the Engineering Project Leader on thisproject and also Libert Towers and Pier Hotel etc..........If you have any technical questions about these buildings please dont hesitate to ask.

P.S. There is an Entertainment building contained within this project with slides etc.

Welcome!

First question: Liberty Towers - is it a prefab design or is there a core? We discussed this a while ago because we couldn't see a core box.

Originally posted by yob
Welcome!

First question: Liberty Towers - is it a prefab design or is there a core? We discussed this a while ago because we couldn't see a core box.

Refer to Liberty Towers site on this site for further details, but the project utlises the Stair and lift core for lateral stability combined with the precast balde walls. (Dual system) The cores are insitu concrete as well as the columns, but these are the only insitu items on the project, the rest is precast. The building is supported by precast columns placed early in the project via diaphragm wall technique and hence you can say it is currently "ON STILTS" (including the lift and stair cores) as we construct the basements due to the Top down and up sequence.

Saw on the CH7 NEWS Australia Day,a group turnout led by Holdfast Bay Mayor protesting this development.The guests at the Ramada Pier Plaza Hotel were on balconies looking down in amazement at the crowd below.The media said they collected 5000 signatures from visitors to the bay,and now have around 40,000 in a petition to try and block this development.Little wonder that Adelaide is such a laughing stock,the guests at the hotel were made to feel that they should not be there,and will return home to say what a strange place this city is.

Originally posted by kota16
Saw on the CH7 NEWS Australia Day,a group turnout led by Holdfast Bay Mayor protesting this development.The guests at the Ramada Pier Plaza Hotel were on balconies looking down in amazement at the crowd below.The media said they collected 5000 signatures from visitors to the bay,and now have around 40,000 in a petition to try and block this development.Little wonder that Adelaide is such a laughing stock,the guests at the hotel were made to feel that they should not be there,and will return home to say what a strange place this city is.


These people are a really big embarassment for our city.

The anti-progress people have actually set up a tent on Jetty Road where they are collecting signatures from fellow negative people.

A few days ago these people tried to brainwash me with their lies as I was walking down Jetty Road. I assure everyone on this forum that I gave these people a piece of my mind!

The Bay NIMBY group who oppose the Platinum on the Beach, held a demonstration on the steps of Parliament House,Adelaide today 16 Feb 04.They handed over a petition with 14,000 signatures calling on the SA government to stop it going ahead.The CH7 coverage showed them wearing yellow T shirts emblazoned with the words'Enough is enough'.I was in the area on friday,and looked at the crappy eyesore,that is a left over standing next to Ramada Pier Hotel.It will be interesting to see how Rann handles this issue!

Wow, this is amusing. There are banners opposing the development all over the Holdfast Bay area, and on some of the shop fronts. They claim it is a high-rise building being built, when it is not even 10 levels, let alone the height of many of the trees in Colley Reserve.

This is pathetic, do you see residents of Sydney protest at any development over the height of 5 levels?

The development still looks likely, AFAIK Urban Planning Minister Jay Weatherill is still in favour of it going ahead.

The electorate is a liberal seat, so the labor government probably doesn't really have to answer to their little sookylala. Unless a few other seats look dodgy.

I'd love to see how they collected 14,000 signatures.

Originally posted by yob

I'd love to see how they collected 14,000 signatures.

You're probably right you know... :D Some of the oldies probably had heart attacks while making all the petitions. :colgate:

Approved.



However, nothing can be started until council hand over the magic mountain site, so this'll still get held up a bit.

Can the State Govt not just compulsorily acquire it?

Damn the NIMBY's, full speed ahead!

Yeah the government can, and will, but the dumbfucks down there would rather waste hundreds of thousands of dollars tying up the process in legal red tape. Ridiculous. :bash:

Originally posted by yob


I'd love to see how they collected 14,000 signatures.

I actually believe 14 000 signatures to be really pathetic, when you consider how the anti-progress people claim that they represent all the people of South Australia.

i would imagine this is TERRIBLY frustrating for Adelaidians. If brisbane was limited this much id get angry... i get angry now with only 1 of our proposals being blocked, but the extent wihch it happenes in Adelaide would just infuriate me!

To Blend.

Even though the proposal was blocked by the NIMBY group it has been approved by the State Government and the council even voted for it as
it would have been a financial liability to them if it hadnt proceeded.

I once suggested in the paper that those 14000 whingers who signed the
petition blocking the development believed having open space was a better
idea. That they should each donate $1000 dollars each to pay for Magic
Mountains demolition, the building of a new Surf Livesaving Club and the
open space. They were quick to complain about me calling them whingers
but none of them were willing to put their money where their mouth was.
They want open space, but they want taxpayers to fund it.

Great to see it get built, and if those 14000 NIMBYies dont like it then they
should sell their properties and move to Kangaroo Island, there they wont see high rise for many many years to come.

To Blend.

Even though the proposal was blocked by the NIMBY group it has been approved by the State Government and the council even voted for it as
it would have been a financial liability to them if it hadnt proceeded.

I once suggested in the paper that those 14000 whingers who signed the
petition blocking the development believed having open space was a better
idea. That they should each donate $1000 dollars each to pay for Magic
Mountains demolition, the building of a new Surf Livesaving Club and the
open space. They were quick to complain about me calling them whingers
but none of them were willing to put their money where their mouth was.
They want open space, but they want taxpayers to fund it.

Great to see it get built, and if those 14000 NIMBYies dont like it then they
should sell their properties and move to Kangaroo Island, there they wont see high rise for many many years to come.


I agree with you 100%.

The anti-progress people are really ignorant, they pretend as if Glenelg has always been some sort of quiet seaside village; what a load of B/S Glenelg has always been Adelaide's premier seaside resort, and contrary to what the NIMBYS at Glenelg say, this project is only enhancing Glenelg as an atractive, cosmopolitan tourist magnet.

I shall visit adelaide in a few years. And see the city, and i think ill like it. Dense Medium rise areas.. would be much the same as the area in bris around the Queen St Mall. The talls dont really start (or should i say didnt USED to, My point is that i think id like Adelaide

To Blend

If you are going to visit our fine city, make sure you come in Summer.
Say Jan, Feb, March. March to me is the best though as it is not
so hot as February in general. I am sure you will love our beaches,
our airport should be ready by then too.

Cheers

Airport won't be ready till Nov '05...

I know, however blend mentioned that he will come over in a few years time
hence by then our airport will be finished.

Ah... sorry, me = reads last post only, because lazy...

At last the bulldozers are demolishing the old Magic Mountain and shown on ABCTV last night. Should be completed within 7 days, and start of construction of rest of project including Platinum to be completed by mid 2006. I note that the Labor member for the seat of Hindmarsh says he campaigned some years back to stop the Holdfast Shores development going ahead. This will be his third try to win the seat.

platinum proposal looks whack man, but wheres all the entertainment going? magic mountains gone, snowdomes closing, timezones going, intecitys too expensive and the show is only on for a week a year.
waaaaah!

platinum proposal looks whack man, but wheres all the entertainment going? magic mountains gone, snowdomes closing, timezones going, intecitys too expensive and the show is only on for a week a year.
waaaaah!

The redevelopment of Magic Mountain includes a new entertainment precinct.

I'm so pissed off with the media coverage of the demolition of that eye-sore. Magic Mountain was the ugliest structure in Australia and possibly the world, so I really cannot understand why the newspapers and TV News are focussing on how the 'magic is gone forever'. Instead of being happy that Glenelg has finally gotten rid of such a monstrosity, the media is presenting its demolition as a sad moment. This is seriously depressing!

what does magic mountain (did, should i say) look like?

what does magic mountain (did, should i say) look like?
It looked like a massive, sun baked dog turd. I'm not joking. It was just a big brown blob.

It looked like a massive, sun baked dog turd. I'm not joking. It was just a big brown blob.

Except this dog turd has water slides going through it.

pic? Lol at dog turd

pic? Lol at dog turd

http://www.baybeachfront.com.au/Pictures/GMOUNT.jpg

I have an urge to put it in a bag, leave it on my teacher's door step, set it on fire, ring the doorbell and run away.

I liked the place, which is why I'm sympathetic to the media glorifying it's past... I do, however, agree that it looked bad....

Luckily it's gone.....

Magic Mountain is now a pile of rubble!

Site works going on. Crane base is in

i saw some thing in the paper thge other day that showed theyre pallning to put the ferris whell back is this true? they should make a new ferris wheel, The Glenelg Eye, get views at 150m. now THAT would be cool

I note on the net that Ramada Pier Plaza Hotel at Glenelg, and Ramada Adelaide Hotel on North Tce becomes OAK Pier Plaza Hotel at Glenelg, and OAK Horizon Hotel on North Tce as of Dec 1st 2004. Also Moseley Square at Glenelg looks very grubby with 3 dead shrubs near Mc Donalds, and new fencing colour does not even match the rest of tables and chairs. The whole area has gone backwards and looks very crappy since Brian Nadilo was beaten as mayor by the present lot.

Some pix of the site.
You can see where the core will eventually rise.

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/75797335.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/75797348.jpg

i saw some thing in the paper thge other day that showed theyre pallning to put the ferris whell back is this true? they should make a new ferris wheel, The Glenelg Eye, get views at 150m. now THAT would be cool

Yes there will be a ferris wheel in the new development however as nice as it would seem I doubt it will reach 150m or 100m in height. From a picture I have seen of the development it will probably be around the 50m mark.

It's a shame that Adelaide doesn't have a nice theme park down at the bay - I reckon that would really drive the council nuts but bring in huge amounts of locals and visitors. I hope the new entertainment facility turns out to be something nicer than a few rides and a ferris wheel.

a few rides??? i dont even think there will be rides. just an arcade with a ferris whell and water slides

a few rides??? i dont even think there will be rides. just an arcade with a ferris whell and water slides

Serious!? I suppose that's because the residents down by the bay are afraid of "overdevelopment".

lol yes probarbly. It still isn clear to anyone about what will be built down there interms of entertainment

come to think of it....idont think there will b a ferris wheel either lol.....probarbly complaints of it 'towering' so high that u cant see the beach lol

Crane is up - getting back to the point of this thread........

OMG! THE FERRIS WHEEL IS BACK!!!!!!!

now i can go back as a 3 year old and ride it all day loooong... lalalalalalla!

the waterslide complex IS blue glass with colored tubes coming in and out of it, looks both ugly and aweosme.

oh and piker, no offense... but the platinum isnt THAAAT special wait till the buildings up not the core???

when i asked for rendering i said entertainment complex. is it in a difrent building? also is the architect the same for all holdfast shores buildings? I think thay all look stunning

when i asked for rendering i said entertainment complex. is it in a difrent building? also is the architect the same for all holdfast shores buildings? I think thay all look stunning

Completely different building to Platinum Apart. Yes, same architect for all buildings (Woodhead)

oh and piker, no offense... but the platinum isnt THAAAT special wait till the buildings up not the core???

Oh ok then, Shuzst.. I mean Redstar, the totally new and unique forumer who has absolutley no connection to anyone who may have been call Shuzstar....... :weirdo:

Someone change this one to u/c. A crane is up and running, and the site has been dug down to where the foundations will go (underground carpark).

why is everyone calling me shuzstar?

all i know is that i know him, u offended him and the names similar?

so whats the big deal.

And you have the same manner of speaking, ideas, and most importantly, IP address.

Keep it on topic please.

And you make what you're trying to hide more obvious by referring to this 'old' forumer. Stop pretending to be someone else and just tell us the truth.

trouble in paradise?

Baulderstone Hornibrook take the Glenelg Sandcastle Competition a little too seriously:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/Platinum.jpg

any1 got pictures of the wntire holdfast shores from the sand? it looks wild

gotta say my interest factor in this project approaches zilch. bit hard to tell from the one render I've seen but it looks like a pretty standard boxy style resi like the other new ones next door, in the standard off-white colour. Glenelg deserves better IMO...

i dont

but i would love to hav seen a 18-20 story building have been built were magic dog crap once stood. would have sort of mad the glenleg shore more interesting IMO

not a huge fan of this project lol but I gotta admit Glenelg is really beefing up nicely

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/p165592b2bb7bfe599e634295829ba2ec/f55796ba.jpg

any1 got pictures of the wntire holdfast shores from the sand? it looks wild

http://www.photoadelaide.com/gal/gallery.php?year=2005&month=01&day=12&pic=2

Bump, looks like the carparking is finally done and this thing will start to rise!

nice pic of Glenelg to post for the heck of it - that core part of Glenelg is really quite dense now, to state the obvious

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7650/102317650ml1112588126.jpg

wow thats really california style! Maybe we should make a hit australian show called The H.S. (The Holdfast Shores)

Plenty of more potential sites there. Great to see this wonderful area of Adelaide come alive even more.

WOW great photo Adelarch! Glenelg looks great, but would look so much better with more high-rise!

Gee, this is a major project and no updates! :(

No update but I can report that Glenelg Town Hall has been damaged by excavation from this site. There are large cracks on the outside of the masonry that Baulderstone Hornibrook have been told to fix.

Gee, this is a major project and no updates! :(

Actually work has been completed on any basement - underground car-parks. Work is now progressing on the ground floor.

Meanwhile next door, work is almost complete on the subterranean car-park of the entertainment complex.

The shell on the Irish pub fronting Moseley Square is up.

I went for a wander down there yesterday and took a few pics that I'll post later tomorrow.

Hey, no update on this wonderful project for a while here!

probably because not much has been build above ground yet
lots of foundation work and underground carpark etc and
foundations etc for the entertainment complex next door.

That and it's an ugly pile of crap.

lol, i like it

probably because not much has been build above ground yet
lots of foundation work and underground carpark etc and
foundations etc for the entertainment complex next door.
The Guardian Messenger press says that the owners of the entertainment complex are looking for a name for it to be called ' ????park' and want ideas from the public. To kick off, I suggest 'HOLDFAST PARK' and it will be a prime tourist place at the tram stop. Any other ideas? :)

MAGIC PARK?? hehe ;)

Luna Park. :)

Sunset Park, Platinum Park, Oceanview Park, Seashells Park, Oceanmist Park, Whitesands Park, Sunset drive Park, Bay Park, Summer Park.

Unwanted Park, shouldbebiggerandbetter Park

^^ to name a few :)

Heres a Highrise holdfast shores i made quickly in paint:

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/2295/highriseglenelg7ih.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7650/102317650ml1112588126.jpg
No the architect isnt the same one as the leaning tower of pisa. the image makes the buildings look like there swaying.

Nice one Giorgos. Love to see towers like that all the way along the coast.

Unfortunatley it would NEVER happen. Can u imagine what sort of whinging the residents behind that body of water would be doing? it would be awful.

Been thinking more about a name for the entertainment park. It will be also shops and restaurents, as well as carousel, ferris wheel and water features. I believe similar to what I have seen at Sun City Resort in South Africa. It is time for Adelaide to create a brand that is unique, and says 'hey, come and look at me, I am bright and fun'. So I will suggest OPAL PARK. Adelaide has to get away from recycling ideas from the past, it is like dressing up and wearing your great grandfathers britches. This name has nothing to do with opal sales, it is simply the jewel that is the brightest and best known in SA. OPAL PARK will be popular, as the entrance is right off the new revamped tram stop in Palm filled Mosely Square.

Heres a list of names I thought of...

Stamford Park (after the hotel)
Holdfast Shores (after the name of the areera)
Marina Village (after the marina)
Colley Reserve (after Colley Reserve)
Jetty Beach (after Jetty Road)
Glenelg Fun Park (after Glenelg)
Beachside Resort (after the beach)
Sunset Land (after the sunsets)
WaterWorld (after the water)

and last but not least,

MAKEGLENELGHIRISE PARK!

Progress Report:

Construction is currently around the 3rd or 4th level of the building.

And The Holdfast City Council has chosen the name 'Brian Nadilo Reserve' for the park.

More trouble brewing at Glenelg with NIMBY minority and 1400 signatures.The suggestion to name the forcourt Brian Nadilo is the bit in front of Surf Lifesaving building, yet to be built. The actual fun park will have its own name and logo, and I guess the owner will decide that in time, with opening planned for around Feb 2006.

What are they objecting to mate?

They do not like the way Colley Reserve has been carved up, and want to go back to being seperate Brighton and Glenelg councils, and Holdfast Bay Council being disbanded. The petition is by former councillor Fiske. Once again it seems all about getting ones name on a plaque. It is all so petty and stupid.

Read in the paper last week that for councils to remain
viable based on the services they are providing, fees
must be increased and most likely by quite a bit.
Dont ask me what they provide as i dont use many of them
other than getting my garbage collected once a week.
My council has done an appalling job on the issue of
road maintenance for example...

But back to the topic, if councils are becoming unviable
why would holdfast shores want to go back to glenelg
and brighton??? sounds like self interest groups between
councilors to me...

They should make one city wide council like in brisbane
that way development would be better regulated and
more even rather than the competing self interest groups
that exist today

Another progress report:

I was reading in the guardian Messenger, that the owners of the new fun park want to put up a 'London Eye' style ferris wheel. It would be 28m high. However these plans would require the developers having to take 1 sqm of parkland from Colley Reserve. Despite the benefits of tourism to the Glenelg area, the council is against giving the developers the 1sqm of land required.

FFS 1 square meter! Wankers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/100805001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/100805003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/100805002.jpg

Another progress report:

I was reading in the guardian Messenger, that the owners of the new fun park want to put up a 'London Eye' style ferris wheel. It would be 28m high. However these plans would require the developers having to take 1 sqm of parkland from Colley Reserve. Despite the benefits of tourism to the Glenelg area, the council is against giving the developers the 1sqm of land required.

ofcourse not were talking about adelaide remember. im sure 2 crickets dwell on that patch of 1sqm land...

ofcourse not were talking about adelaide remember. im sure 2 crickets dwell on that patch of 1sqm land...

It is not Adelaide's fault, you shouldn't take out your rage at the city itself. This problem is caused by incompetent, selfish local councils who still believe they are living in the 1890's.

will fit well with the marina, but seriously if you want wow factor, get rid of that atrocius seaweed. u dont want people waking up in the mornings to get a view of their b each covered in sand poo.

It is not Adelaide's fault, you shouldn't take out your rage at the city itself. This problem is caused by incompetent, selfish local councils who still believe they are living in the 1890's. The metropolitan area is made up of 20 councils, and it is like a collection of villages. I see this as the reason there are many cliques who will not see eye to eye on progress. South Australia was structured as the British Province of SA, where shareholders ruled. The calibre of person we get many times is a joke, and they are simply there to milk it for themsleves. Until SA has compulsory voting in councils like QLD, NSW and Vic this state will always be hamstrung.In a nutshell, they do not have to account to an opposition, as there is none. :sleepy:

Any up-to-date pics?

Payout call over town hall

11nov05
HOLDFAST Bay Council is seeking compensation from builders at the Holdfast Shores development after works cracked the heritage-listed Glenelg Town Hall.

They will ask for compensation to cover lost income, after council staff were moved into a former wine bar in the building. It was reported in The Advertiser in April that "ugly cracks" had appeared in the town hall.

The council has also requested repairs be completed by Christmas.

Mayor Ken Rollond said the most dramatic damage was on the north and east sides of the building.

Baulderstone-Hornibrook general manager Derek Hough said nearby work had stopped and excavations stabilised.

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/03-Dec-05/20051204_001.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/03-Dec-05/20051204_002.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/03-Dec-05/20051204_005.jpg

Thanks AtD. It is all coming together nicely. The lifeguard tower is very smart!

Just scanned through the whole thread and any renders that were posted no longer exist. Did a search on Emporis too, and nothing came up for Platinum.

Does anyone have a render to post? Would it be the same or similar to the row of adjoining apartment buildings?

Go to http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au - there's one in there.

just wondering -- is there a thread for the development on the old magic mountain site? itd be nice to see some up to date pics. or is it in the low to midrise development thread?

The second photo I just posted is the Magic Mountain site.

i was just wonderin...nething about both constructions can go in this thread? so there is no seperate magic mountain thread

If you stand back for a minute, and just look at the development at Glenelg, you might start to wonder, what were all those nimby folk whinging and getting thier nickers in a twist about high rise developments? The place looks damn lovely, certainly a hell of a lot better then what it used to.

besides, glenelg has already 'ruined' the foreshore (according to these NIMBYs) so why cant we keep on goin? theres barely any prime foreshore left to develop on anyway so i dont realli think its an issue...

There's nothing wrong with this development, Liberty Towers or the newly proposed ones, but the construction of Holdfast Shores has actually caused quite a few environmental concerns regarding the Patawalanga, and more serious the lack of movement of sand from south to north along the beaches. The rapid erosion of the beaches north of the river mouth just adds to the problem. It isn't NIMBYism, it's a genuine concern and well worth looking at otherwise there will be no beaches in some parts of Adelaide within a few decades.

That isnt due to the appartment blocks, rather the artifical reefs and such the Libs went and dumped there for the marina, if I remember correctly.

In regards to rectifying the issue, Labour has proposed some pipeline, rather then spending millions every year carting sand up and down the beaches. If anyone has info on it..

You mean the breakwaters don't you? If thats what you mean, then that was what I was supposedly refering to, not the actually apartment blocks. Probably forgot to mention that.

Go to http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au - there's one in there.Thanks. I do remember it now.

Yea the breakwaters is what I was talking about.

Isnt there an artificial tyre reef out there?

did anyone see the advertiser (15/12)?
apparently the penthouse is going for $4.9m...thats an enormous price to pay...even if you had the money, would you pay $4.9m for this penthouse? it realli is quite expensive for an Adelaide apartment

How big is the penthouse?
Features?
Views?
Does it have its own private pool and so on?

Has it been sold, or is that the starting/asking price?

did anyone see the advertiser (15/12)?
apparently the penthouse is going for $4.9m...thats an enormous price to pay...even if you had the money, would you pay $4.9m for this penthouse? it realli is quite expensive for an Adelaide apartment
Even if i had 11 million dollars, I wouldnt blow almost 5 million on an Adelaide apartment. The only way id buy it is if i had over 500 million dollars...like Mr. Makris.

If you stand back for a minute, and just look at the development at Glenelg, you might start to wonder, what were all those nimby folk whinging and getting thier nickers in a twist about high rise developments? The place looks damn lovely, certainly a hell of a lot better then what it used to.


I completely agree, I have recently been looking at the pictures of a book called 'Above Australia' which was published in 1985. The aerial photos of Glenelg from that era are quite embarrasing. I cannot uderstand why the NIMBYS want to retain the Glenelg of old. It was definately not world class, and that ugly car-park at the end of Anzac Highway and the 'village' amusement park were a disgrace. Another disgrace was the building which was (thankfully) demolished to make way for the Stamford.

What is the 'village' amusement park

What is the 'village' amusement park

The rides and amusement alley that once stood on the site currenly occupied by the Oaks Pier Hotel. Go to Semaphore to get a better idea of the amusement park that once was at Glenelg.

lol, do you have a website :)

lol, do you have a website :)

No

Its nothing you would want to see anyway.
All I remember is the building that had the video arcade in it, I used to blow quite a bit of money in there on Street Fighter when I was a kid, during the 'blessing of the waters' ceremony for the Greek Orthodox.

i used to go on the ferris wheel like every weekend. wheeee.

can we stay on topic please

We are we're talking about what used to be on around the platinum, anyway theres nothing new about the platinum still u/c, going normally

Well, if anyone can post some pictures of progress, something different then the usual snapshot, that would be nice, but if not, 'sall good.

about that $4.9m penthouse, i would give you details, but ive already thrown yesterdays paper out, sorry. does anyone else have it? and is willing to post that article?

i could take some photos with my digital camera, but will need help uploading them onto the computer. imageshack max limit is 1024kb (1MB) and most of my photos are about 4-5MB in size. how do i downgrade the size of the images?

EDITED: dont worry i read the manual and i found out how to reduce them, apparently all my photos were being taken in 2560x1920 HQ and i discovered u can change that, so ill start taking them in 1024x768 SQ. which reduces the file size by like 10 times lesss than b4. so cool, ill try and get to glenelg asap to capture the platinum.

I was at Glenelg yesterday an it appears as though Platinum has topped out.

Ah yea, nice.
Redstar, did you end up taking any photos?

2 - but couldnt get them thru imageshack, still too large even tho i did smallest size.

1 is of platinum, the other of the waterslide place.

I was at Glenelg yesterday an it appears as though Platinum has topped out.

It has been for a fair while now.

Redstar, just resize it on paint or atleast open it, and then resave it as a jpeg again. This usually cuts the size down by like half.

I've finally been able to resize my photos.... sorry about the delay (much like the airport... lol)

Here's Magic Mountain site, with the new waterslide complex - I tells ya this thing is HUGE. Cant wait to get on it!

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3665/magicmountainsmall3gq.jpg

And heres the Platinum building site, so far it just basically looks like the other 2 marina buildings with the same render color and etc. I noticed that the two buildings at either end of the marina (Platinum, and the main marina building where all the restuarnts are) both have a dome cylindrical feature thingy on the end.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2157/platinumsmall2uf.jpg

Thanks Redstar. Hope you post a few more shots from various angles, including Moseley Square.

Wasnt it Baulderstone Hornbrook who did the Marina too?
Might explain why they look similar.
I think thats a good thing though.

I completely agree, I have recently been looking at the pictures of a book called 'Above Australia' which was published in 1985. The aerial photos of Glenelg from that era are quite embarrasing. I cannot uderstand why the NIMBYS want to retain the Glenelg of old. It was definately not world class, and that ugly car-park at the end of Anzac Highway and the 'village' amusement park were a disgrace. Another disgrace was the building which was (thankfully) demolished to make way for the Stamford.

Iv seen that book too. When I saw it i was like 'Update Update Update!'
It was quite a shock at how bad glenelg looked.

Btw, how did the NIMBYS allow the Grand to be built?

Wasnt it Baulderstone Hornbrook who did the Marina too?
Might explain why they look similar.
I think thats a good thing though.
Yea, I agree. Its Great that they have that consistancy about them. It will look great from the water and jetty when its done.

i just got back from glenelg, and its starting to look damn fine! i went in behing holdfast shores and around the marina and the north esplanade. hopefully we see some highrise apartments extending north of holdfast shores and around the patowolonga marina.
driving towards glenelg on the esplanade at west beach looks fantastic! ill have to take some pictures down there next time

I was at Glenelg today for a few hours during the blessing of the waters ceremony. I didnt really purposly go visit the Platinum site but from what I could see, it looks really promising. I am so glad that Glenelg is developing the way it is.

Here are some photos of what Glenelg will look like from the north looking south and from the south looking north after work has been completed. I hope they haven't already been posted.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/MaximumForce/Glenelg-NorthSouth.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/MaximumForce/Glenelg-southNorth.jpg

MaximumForce. Just what we all have been waiting to see! Thanks!

Looks great.
Hmm Ill probably get shot for this one, but can anyone envisage some development on that grass between the sand and slides?

Not a snowballs hope in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! The plan is for that area to be designated as open space. You cant build on every square centermetre of earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A continuation of the Norfolk Pines towards the kiosk would surely not spoil the open space concept and would give some shade.

Not a snowballs hope in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! The plan is for that area to be designated as open space. You cant build on every square centermetre of earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try and stop us :runaway:

Nah, I think it would be good if it was turned into a type of outdoor plaza area.

Your absolutely right kota i agree with adding more norfolks but i think any more construction or buildings will not happen on that prime piece of real estate.

I went down on the new Flexity tram on Wednesday and had a look at that very spot. The open space is intended for people to relax on their beach towels.

The grass area looks really dull... could use a few palms and some tiling

Not a snowballs hope in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! The plan is for that area to be designated as open space. You cant build on every square centermetre of earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When was the last time you went to Glenelg

There building it as we speak you tosser

and with the new twin towers proposal nearby, if approved it will look sen-bloody-sational.

don't forget Latitude (10 story, behind the grand) if approved

[QUOTE=AdelaideSkytraveller]When was the last time you went to Glenelg

There building it as we speak you tosser[/QUOTE
Tosser, yeah good on ya, As a matter of fact I have been to Glenelg a number of times lately and I am quite aware that they are building. In fact its obvious that there building the new entertainment complex. Before you jumped in we were actually discussing the grassed area in front of the construction which is designed to be left as open space.

Sorry but I think aceman is correct hehe.

Take it easy people, its just buildings theres no need to tear strips off each other.

Aceman... I have no idea what you're on about. Everything in the render is as they advertised, open space where they said it'll be. :dunno:

i think aceman is right too, he was referring to that grassy bit in the 2nd photo, which is to remain open space...that really is a good thing imo, it means that the beach is easily accessable from colley reserve and from the new entertainment complex

But its too bare for my liking. Oh well,

So you would rather live in a concrete jungle would you?

No wonder your posts get deleted.
Did I say that id rather live in a concrete jungle? I dont recall it? Maybe my post was misteriously 'deleted'.

Please use atleast ONE braincell when replying to a topic. Just for the record, I like concrete Jungles and thats not what I want to happen to Adelaide.

']Iv seen that book too. When I saw it i was like 'Update Update Update!'
It was quite a shock at how bad glenelg looked.

Btw, how did the NIMBYS allow the Grand to be built?


The NIMBYS resisted the Grand Hotel, however I recall that the state government made it a 'major development' thus overriding council laws. However to please the NIMBYS the Grand Hotel incorporated that three level balconied facade fronting Moseley Square to pay homage to the old Pier Hotel.

']But its too bare for my liking. Oh well,


Yes I agree, that space needs some palm trees or Norfolk pine trees for some shade. Some public lighting would also look good.

"The Beachouse" is the name given to complex that replaces Magic Mountain.

Yes I agree, that space needs some palm trees or Norfolk pine trees for some shade. Some public lighting would also look good.
ditto...

I guess we can agree once in a while....;)

and some kind of water feature on the centre would look great! im thinking victor's whale tail, but more spectacular

Are there any interior renderings of the complex?
It will be interesting to see if the themeing and name match.

The new entertainment complex which has been named 'The Beachhouse' and it will include:

*A 5 level play castle
*A mini-golf course with a railway theme
*the heritage carousel
*More modern arcade games
*better bumper boats with squirting pistols

However the most important thing is that the local council has finally seen the light and voted in the best interest of Adelaide and not the vocal pensioners by giving approval to the 'London Eye' style ferris wheel.

How tall will the ferris wheel be?
I cant imagine that high given the close proximity of the airport....

The new entertainment complex which has been named 'The Beachhouse' and it will include:

*A 5 level play castle
*A mini-golf course with a railway theme
*the heritage carousel
*More modern arcade games
*better bumper boats with squirting pistols

However the most important thing is that the local council has finally seen the light and voted in the best interest of Adelaide and not the vocal pensioners by giving approval to the 'London Eye' style ferris wheel.

Interesting. Our own 'Adelaide Eye'! I hope its big!!

Yah I love the ferris wheel.

']Interesting. Our own 'Adelaide Eye'! I hope its big!!

Think its going to be the around the same height as the norfolk pine trees.

So glad were finally getting another entertainment preicent - Adelaide needs this soooo badly atm!!!

How high are the Norfolk Pines?

']How high are the Norfolk Pines?

The ferris wheel will be 27m high.

Any updates?

I was there on Sunday and all the Waterslides are up. It looks to be about 85% completed.

Does it look good??

Opinions differ.
Best to go down there yourself I rekon. Not that I have seen it.

It looks 1000 times better than magic mountain, but it is not as colourful as the render showed .... yet anyay.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/119_1923.jpg

Yay!!! Cant wait to go to glenelg now in summer! the new magic mountain looks heaps good!

Since when has this thing been built, wow I'm a but slow. It looks cool but I prefure the look of majic mountain.

Pics from today -

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm1.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm2.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm3.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm4.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm5.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/aceman33/mm6.jpg

great pics mate! personally dont like this building at all, but nevertheless, anything is better that that old piece of shit

From those photos it does look rather meh. Perhaps if they used brighter colours, eg yellow.

I don't like it, it looks cheap...
The blue slide does look like fun:).

Tacky indeed.
I was expecting a glassy structure. Its not finished though is it?

well i still like it..

i thought the slides were coloured, or did i dream it

anyway ill post my pictures 2morrow

The renders look nothing like the finished product - either Platinum or the entertainment precinct. Before you start, I know its only an artists impressions. But its almost misrepresentation. Imagine if you paid $2m + for an apartment in Platinum - you'd be pissed off. The view of the entertainment precinct from the beach looks a shocker - why is a fun park on the beach metallic grey???

yea, imo platinum was a slight letdown

whats wrong with platinum?, i havent seen it yet, can someone tell me what happening :)

When the Ferris Wheel goes up and other features are added it will be a place people want to come and be stickey beaks. Thanks aceman.

that building looks like it was designed by someone who's never had a day of fun in their whole life.

Yuk!


probably Holdfast Council said something like:
"dont make it look too inviting, young people may actually want to use it, we cant have those young people in our peaceful suburb"

OMG!!! That is truely hideous... what a serious disgrace to demolish MM and build that design deficient monstrosity. Planners should be shot!!

sorry for the delay people

Platinum Apartments

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/glenelg1a.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/glenelg3a.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/glenelg4a.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/glenelg10a.jpg

Beachhouse Amusement Complex

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/glenelg2.jpg



I dont really know if i like the look of this buildings anymore, but the fun park looks like it will be fun


Moseley Square Redevelopment

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/crawf_231/15262256.jpg

Great shots Mants.

The buildings aren't earth shattering but they look ok.

Great shots Mants.

The buildings aren't earth shattering but they look ok.

lmao, im not Mants :lol:

No, no you're not.

Great work crawf.

Now, if only you could work out how to make them smaller.

okay ive made all the pictures smaller

I expected Platinum to be nicer but its still nice.

platinum is not that good :(

too bulky n it looks like its dying to be taller

it will look alot better when they take the black covering of the glass balconies

todays adevertiser said that the entertainment complex (the beach house) is opening July 1 and the 25m ferris wheel (that was described to be a smaller version of the London Eye and the first of it's kind in Australia) will be arriving next week ! ! !

It's been dubed Adelaide's Disneyland, but we all know thats and overstatement :)

Thats one more terrible comparison to the list...

i don't know what that means so i'm gonna saaaaaaaaay . . . . yes

Thats one more terrible comparison to the list...
oh not another one

we've got:

Glenelg - Gold Coast
+ The Beach House - Disneyland, California.
+ 25m Ferris Wheel - London Eye, London
Victor Harbor upgrades - Gold Coast
Rundle Street Convergence - Times Square, NYC
King William Street - Wall Street, NYC
Torrens precinct - Southbank, Melb.
Newport Quays - Docklands, Melb.
Adelaide Oval Upgrades - MCG, Melb.

+ so many more.

you do relise that the same people that say this are those who say Adelaide is unique and shouldnt imitate other cities...
bloody hypocrites

-rant over-

oh not another one

we've got:

Glenelg - Gold Coast
+ The Beach House - Disneyland, California.
+ 25m Ferris Wheel - London Eye, London
Victor Harbor upgrades - Gold Coast
Rundle Street Convergence - Times Square, NYC
King William Street - Wall Street, NYC
Torrens precinct - Southbank, Melb.
Newport Quays - Docklands, Melb.
Adelaide Oval Upgrades - MCG, Melb.

+ so many more.

you do relise that the same people that say this are those who say Adelaide is unique and shouldnt imitate other cities...
bloody hypocrites

-rant over-

We often get this syndrome pop up, where suggestions are made based purely on copycat ideas from elsewhere, believing we can become more successful that way. Yes, in some aspects we should look at what other cities are doing and compare. But successful cities don't copy, they get copied. Cities have become successful by taking a lead, not following.

Any way, because of pure boredom, I will make a comparison as to how many times larger the things from the list above are.

Glenelg - Gold Coast (More than 20 times larger by population)
The Beach House - Disneyland, California. (At least 1000 times larger in area)
25m Ferris Wheel - London Eye, London (More than 7 times larger in diameter)
Victor Harbor upgrades - Gold Coast (Beyond several thousand times more expensive across the region)
Rundle Street Convergence - Times Square, NYC (Uncomparable)
King William Street - Wall Street, NYC (At least several dozen times busier and more important)
Torrens precinct - Southbank, Melb. (At least several dozen times larger)
Newport Quays - Docklands, Melb. (At least 5 times larger by cost)
Adelaide Oval Upgrades - MCG, Melb. (Several times more expensive)

Rant complete.

Newport Quays - Docklands, Melb.

since when has Newport Quays development been dubed Adelaide's version of melbournes docklands - its nothing like docklands

all I keep on hearing is its Australia's last major port to be redeveloped

The Beachhouse might not be the most attractive building to be built, however it is still more pleasing to see then the pile of dung that was Magic Mountain.

We often get this syndrome pop up, where suggestions are made based purely on copycat ideas from elsewhere, believing we can become more successful that way. Yes, in some aspects we should look at what other cities are doing and compare. But successful cities don't copy, they get copied. Cities have become successful by taking a lead, not following.

Any way, because of pure boredom, I will make a comparison as to how many times larger the things from the list above are.

Glenelg - Gold Coast (More than 20 times larger by population)
The Beach House - Disneyland, California. (At least 1000 times larger in area)
25m Ferris Wheel - London Eye, London (More than 7 times larger in diameter)
Victor Harbor upgrades - Gold Coast (Beyond several thousand times more expensive across the region)
Rundle Street Convergence - Times Square, NYC (Uncomparable)
King William Street - Wall Street, NYC (At least several dozen times busier and more important)
Torrens precinct - Southbank, Melb. (At least several dozen times larger)
Newport Quays - Docklands, Melb. (At least 5 times larger by cost)
Adelaide Oval Upgrades - MCG, Melb. (Several times more expensive)

Rant complete.
pathetic, isnt it

Hey we live in the age of marketing and spin. Get used to it, there'll be more to come.

It's much cheaper to say something is so, than to make it so. And enough people will believe it for it to make no difference.

Mike Rann (ex Political journalist) is a master at it.

The new Entertainment is definetly better than Magic Mountain. Although it is still very bad. The design is awkward, and the colour schemes used don't provide a 'wow' effect to it. The renders showed of multi-coloured tubes and a interesting edge to the entertainment complex's design, but it has turned out quite a blunder.

Satisfactory, but unsactisfactory - If you understand what I mean.

Mmm, IMO it looks like a cheapo office building with waterslides sticking out. I don't like it as it stands but it may grow on me or it may look totally different when its complete.

Read the Messenger, it has a long article saying how glenelg residence are sick of highrise construction and claims that the Council has a track record of approving anything that is highrise. Load of crap.

Duz ne one hav any pics of the ferris wheel up yet? just wanna know wat it looks like, thats all.

Duz ne one hav any pics of the ferris wheel up yet? just wanna know wat it looks like, thats all.
it isnt yet, no idea when it will be up.

i was in glenelg yesterday. we werent gonna go to The Beach House, but we did go and have a look.

and its far from world class.

first thing i noticed was that from the front, half the carousel is hidden by a grey strip of metal or something
the dodgem car course and bumper car lake are really small, and there is so much free space that could have been used to make them bigger.
the put-put is so easy, its not funny, the train track is so small and loud while youre trying to play golf. it smells strongly of chlorine and theres very little seating area for parents. dunno bout the slides, the looked good, but it was far too cold.

there were harly any people there anyway, bit of a dud if you ask me

im just rather dissappointed, its good, but not great.

^^ that is such a shame


hopefully this new theme park at pt hughes will be alot better

Went to Glenelg yesterday and had a look at Beachhouse. I was really dissapointed. It is basically a modern building which is empty with a few spread out arcade games and a play gym for children 5 or under. I hate to say it but Magic Mountain was far more entertaining even if it was an "Eyesore". They could have done so much better at Adelaide's main tourist beach and summer destination.

magic mountain had more sentimental value for me, and a lot of people around my age,

this thing is just...cold and empty

magic mountain had more sentimental value for me, and a lot of people around my age,

this thing is just...cold and empty
Well its only new.

I had a look last night too, and my general impression is it wasn't finished yet, hence the lack of media attention. Its rather empty and obvious that not all the games are there yet. I wouldn't be suprised if once the wheel is open, they have a hyped up 'official opening' just to get some publicitiy.

Platinum is starting to look really hot. It all looks spectacular from the beach.

Any fresh pictures of Platinum?
Dont fancy heading that way my self in this weather.

u lazy bastard :P

']Well its only new.
do i have to like it?

:|

from a few weeks ago...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/loopy70/P1010032.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/loopy70/P1010034.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/loopy70/P1010035.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/loopy70/P1010039.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/loopy70/P1010024.jpg

Ok - lets be controversial...say in the next 1 - 50 years this thing becomes a white elephant/doesnt work/goes broke/whatever...who actually owns the land [is it Baulderstone/Urban Construct]? What are the chances it will one day get bulldozed [I know its only new] for a very profitable new high rise building?

I like the new building. It is very similar to what I saw in Durban, South Africa in the North Beach area. It will function well in winter also. :)

Took these this afternoon... it'd be nice if they put a truckload more arcade machines in... it looks too sparse at this stage.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2115resize.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2112resize.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2134resize.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2127resize.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2123.jpg

looks like this one has been designed for tiny tots.


i cant believe that is it. it's soooooo lame.
like i said before, something about it says compromise to me. i predict a change of hands or shutdown within 2 years.

Yeah, there's hardly anything that kids 12+ would find entertaining. There's still a good amount of empty space inside that they could fill up.

The latest on Platinum too... It should look lighter once the black plastic is taken off the glass fencing.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/tybalt9/121_2148resize.jpg

Wow Platinum looks fantastic! Never new it looked like that. The beach house looks lame and as said above needs more arcade games or something it is way too spacious.

omg the beachhouse looks disgraceful, how could the developers compare this lump of shit to Disneyworld


thanks for the pics tybant

As I said, it looks like it's not finished yet. They clearly intend to have many many more arcade games, there are extra power-points and network plugs everywhere.

As I said, it looks like it's not finished yet. They clearly intend to have many many more arcade games, there are extra power-points and network plugs everywhere.
that doesnt change the fact that the bumper boat pool and the dodgem car track are tiny

^^ agreed

hope the ferris wheel is good; but i reckon it will be 'average' like the rest of the complex

hope the ferris wheel is good; but i reckon it will be 'average' like the rest of the complex
have you been yet?

I was there today. Where is the soul? This 'development' is not "average", it is a crime against the people of SA and an architectural embarresment. What a wasted opportunity.. we should have looked to Coney Island or the pier arcades of England for inspiration, not a dental surgery waiting room.

I should add that Platinum on the other hand is impressive, classy and a real asset to Glenelg. I wish buildings of this quality (with a modern slant) would grace Melb Docklands instead of some of the concrete slab sided crap sprouting up.

I should add that Platinum on the other hand is impressive, classy and a real asset to Glenelg. I wish buildings of this quality (with a modern slant) would grace Melb Docklands instead of some of the concrete slab sided crap sprouting up.
Thanks... Yeah platinum is great, but Glenelg can't be compaired to docklands...

I was there today. Where is the soul? This 'development' is not "average", it is a crime against the people of SA and an architectural embarresment. What a wasted opportunity.. we should have looked to Coney Island or the pier arcades of England for inspiration, not a dental surgery waiting room.
Yes I agree... IMO we should have just kept Luna Park it looked like it had class. The beach house is tacky...http://www.abc.net.au/adelaide/stories/m916804.jpg
Adelaide Luna Park thread. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=351009)

Just to remind us, this is the proposal the developers put forward in December 2002:

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Plan.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Model1.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Model2.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Model3.jpg

They wanted the mini-golf to be much, much larger than it currently is, and also wanted more retail space next to the Beach House. Also note the west facade for the Beachhouse was a lot grander than the one built.

Blame the NIMBYs.

^^Damn I never saw that! Thanks AtD.

OMG I hate NIMBY's so much more now, Platinum was 15 floors! and The whole development looks so much nicer... :(

looks so much nicer... :(

not really

are they still going to build the cinema complex??

A few more photos of the model:

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Model4.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/Model5.jpg

One thing I noticed on the day is the developered mounted a rather poorly thought out PR campaing (which is easy to say in hindsight). Including the Stamford, Pier, Marina and Liberty was a mistake as many people on the day thought they were part of the proposal, not realising they were already exisiting structures.

What they've replaced: Surf Life Saving
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/OldSurfLifesavingClub.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/OldGlenelgPlans/MagicMountain.jpg

Crawf: I believe it's UC, there's something there being built anyway.

*sigh*...nimbism.