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DannyelBrazil

January 9th, 2012, 06:26 AM

This have not been said by the "liar" Brazilian Govt. but by forumers here in SSC.

Airports

About Airports, we have some problems with them, but, Infraero (Brazilian Govt. Airports Maintenance Co.) already started major works in ALL of them.
Still, three airports (Brasilia, Sao Paulo and Campinas) will be sent to private companies in an attempt to speed up the works, since bureaucracy plays a major role in government affairs and these three really needs to improve passenger capacity in small timespan.

Sao Paulo now have a remote terminal for passengers of smaller Airliners and will open a new remote terminal for domestic flights. Still, a brand new huge terminal is already under works, expected to be ready in April 2014.

Salvador, Fortaleza, Curitiba, Manaus and Porto Alegre airports are already in works. These airports needs minor works and some REAL refurbshing.

In the last christmas season, no big troubles happened in Brazilian Airports due overcrowds.

Roads and transportation

Sao Paulo just finished the upgrade of Marginal Tiete its main highway and is updating all the signage of the city (already very visible in the streets).
Sao Paulo State Govt. already started the East Wing of Rodoanel (A Ring Highway around Sao Paulo metro are) - The goal is to put all the traffic without Sao Paulo as final destination out of the city.
The line to Itaquera Stadium is receiving some upgrades and the Itaquera station will be doubled in its size.

Rio de Janeiro is almost finishing the first huge Bus Rapid Transit Corridor, which will help to reduce traffic in Barra da Tijuca area (providing one more option for hotels and shopping). Maracana Stadium area is also under upgrade (removing illegal housing, upgrading train and subway station and reurbanizing the district).
Pavement have been upgrade in main avenues of the city (and more is expected to be done in 2013, since it's a fast work.
Sea Port is already under re-building and BIG works have been done there since 2010.

Salvador opens its subway line in mid-2012. Cuiaba will start its tram system works in 1S2012. Rio is building a new subway line, but expected to be ready in 2016 only.
Curitiba and Porto Alegre does not need major works in transportation.

Stadiums

Natal and Porto Alegre are really delayed for the World Cup. But Porto Alegre is in better shape, since it will be an upgrade. Natal worries me.

The other stadiumes will be ready fast and furious, as thousands of pics posted by Brazilian members here shows it.

DannyelBrazil

January 9th, 2012, 06:28 AM

is it possible that FIFA cancels this WC brasil for another one in germany or south Africa which are considered like Reserved country for a worls cup?

No way, since all advertising deals are already signed, inside and outside Brazil.
Many sponsors are showing their ads with Brazil 2014 logo.
Brazil also spent too much money in this event.

It all a matter of contracts and money and for this the point of "No-Return" was passed a long time ago.

MoreOrLess

January 9th, 2012, 09:36 AM

fabbio_123

January 9th, 2012, 10:20 AM

Guys, let's face reality:

- there is no slight possiiblity of changing the WC country or using venues outside Brazil.

- out of 12 stadiums, 9 or 10 are on schedule with works. FIFA already mentioned they would be happy to live with 8 venues, so no problem here. there are also backups, such as Gremio Arena.

- Airports are old and overcrowded, but there are major airlines in Brazil that serve all the cities in the WC already. It is not a matter of transportation existing, it is only a matter of making it more confortable. Sao paulo airport is as bad as Rome Fiumicino or New York La Guardia, IMO. A new modern terminal is expected for 2014. WC could happen as airports are today, with a lot of queues , though. Renovations are in course and delayed - fact.

- Roads vary. In the southeast, driving from Sao Paulo to Rio is as fine as anywhere in developd world I've been to. There is huge traffic in both metro areas, but nothing that would get a New Yorker much surprised. Elsewhere, roads may not be so much in good shape, maily due to small size. Don't know about pavement quality, but this is simple to solve, if that is the case. Anyway, Brazil is as big as western Europe or almost as the whole continental USA, so I don't see driving as a main tarnsportation for the WC. People will fly.

- There is no rail transportation between cities and there will not be. Again, people will fly.

- There is huge subway/urban rail under construction in most venues. Several lines will be ready for the WC, and obviously those near the stadiums. This is less of a problem in Sao Paulo and Rio, where
Iines to the stadiums already exist and work.

So, in short terms, things need improvement, for a matter of comfort, but there is plenty of structure that work, even though with some huge queues sometimes. Let's hope most of the improved structure will be ready in time.

Enzo

January 9th, 2012, 10:41 AM

I don't have a crystal ball either, but I know exactaly how the brazilian government and its employees lie, and how things are done in Brazil. Therefore I can say for sure, many things will not be ready for the Cup, specially the airports.

It's just your opinion, I think that you totally wrong.....:ohno:

Thankfully, we are a democracy in Brazil, so...........

It's not just my opinion. It's a fact! I'll prove you wrong in 2014, get back to me then.

No one is saying that Brazil is not a democracy, so...

MoreOrLess

January 9th, 2012, 03:51 PM

DannyelBrazil

January 9th, 2012, 09:59 PM

I very much doubt the WC would be shifted should transport and accomodation devolpment fail to quite meet the expected standards.

Even if multiple stadiums arent finished on time there are at least three potential modern fallbacks in the Palestra Itália, João Havelange and Gremino Area and several older ones which standards could likely be lessened for. The last resort would I'd guess be using venues like the Centrino in Uruguay and Monumental in Buenos Aires.

There is no stadium called Centrino in Uruguay, but Centenario. :)

Centenario Stadium (and also Monumental in Buenos Aires) are in worse shape than MANY other stadiums in Brazil that were not chosen to the WC like Serra Dourada in Goiania or Mangueirao in Belem (both would need minor works to host World Cup matches)...

No way Brazilians would accept any matches played outside Brazil, indeed, because Brazil have at least 5 stadium in shape to replace "failed" projects.

Also, according to FIFA, the World Cup can be hosted with 8 stadiums only. At least 10 stadiums in Brazil are in time.

DannyelBrazil

January 9th, 2012, 10:04 PM

It's not just my opinion. It's a fact! I'll prove you wrong in 2014, get back to me then.

Do you have any personal problems against the nation of Brazil?

gfd08

January 9th, 2012, 10:19 PM

There is no way Brazil looses the opportunity to organize a WC... let's face it: Brazil is only working a little delayed on the schedule. If Greece was able to organize the Olimpics by lying on their accounting numbers to the whole EU, I don't see a reason to forbid Brazil... they're far more serious than the Greeks. :)

João Paulo

January 9th, 2012, 11:17 PM

Fifa always pressures world cup hosts, it happened in South Africa and it is happening with Brazil too. It was already expected. Brazil will host one of the best World Cup´s ever. Everything will be ready and well organized for the World Cup 2014 don´t worry folks.

Enzo

January 9th, 2012, 11:27 PM

Do you have any personal problems against the nation of Brazil?

No, I do not! :)

HMMS

January 10th, 2012, 01:17 AM

Do you have any personal problems against the nation of Brazil?

Obvious that he has problems with Brazil, his ignorance about the country is one of them !!!!!!!!!:ohno:

HMMS

January 10th, 2012, 01:18 AM

DannyelBrazil

January 10th, 2012, 05:13 AM

No, I do not! :)

Good! :)

So, can we talk about facts and not impressions? :cheers:

Enzo

January 10th, 2012, 10:59 AM

Good! :)

So, can we talk about facts and not impressions? :cheers:
I am not talking about impressions, I am talking about facts. The brazilian government promised so much for the cup, but as of now little has been done and many projects have been forgotten... But they keep saying that all is well... That is the truth!

Since this thread is not about politics, I'll stop here and I'll prove you wrong in 2014.

Please put something in your head and heart: To criticize a government, doesn't mean that you don't like the country. ;)

Enzo

January 10th, 2012, 11:05 AM

Obvious that he has problems with Brazil, his ignorance about the country is one of them !!!!!!!!!:ohno:

Apparently I know much more about Brazil than you. Guess where I am right now, and guess how many brazilian cities and airports I've been to only this year? Probably, many more than you have. ;)
Don't live in denial, it's not healthy for you. :)

Brazil_Gold Coast

January 10th, 2012, 11:28 AM

I am not talking about impressions, I am talking about facts. The brazilian government promised so much for the cup, but as of now little has been done and many projects have been forgotten... But they keep saying that all is well... That is the truth!

Since this thread is not about politics, I'll stop here and I'll prove wrong in 2014.

Please put something in your head and heart: To criticize a government, doesn't mean that you don't like the country. ;)

Dude, don't worry, there are still seems to be a large part of the brazilian population that take criticisms about the REALITY of the country and government very personally, but I tell you they only take it personally when being told by a foreigner. It their personal time they also criticise the country (a lot) and that is part of the day to day life of a brazilian.

Again, this is not a political thread. Let's hope Brazil can do a good job for 2014. I'm originally from Porto Alegre and even the local government has already admitted that only about 30% of the original promissed projects will be finalised by 2014. Will there be major hickups? Absolutely! But you know what? With huge crowds, people that attend these events already expect long delays everywhere. It happens all over the world! And people that go to Brazil during this period will put these problems aside and enjoy the amazing spirit of happiness and party that brazilians exude during these events. :)

ruifo

January 10th, 2012, 04:51 PM

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1562568/index.html

2012 to be a decisive year in Brazil 2014 build-up

(LOC) Thursday 29 December 2011

http://www.fifa.com/mm//Photo/Tournament/Competition/01/53/03/26/1530326_FULL-LND.jpg

Over the course of 2012, the entire world will be ever more involved in preparations for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™, with the year set to feature vital landmark dates in the build-up to the showpiece event. The Brazilian public in particular will have the opportunity to witness first-hand a series of key preparatory activities.

In the wake of UEFA EURO 2012 and the Olympic Games in London, and once the eyes of the world have turned back to Brazil, the official mascot for the 2014 finals will be chosen. The official slogan, meanwhile, which organisers intend to use to project the event’s profile to every corner of the globe, will be unveiled in the first half of the year.

Also coming in the opening six months of 2012 is the application process for the volunteer programme, which is still being designed. Some 80,000 applications are expected, from which 18,000 people will be selected to perform a variety of support roles at Brazil 2014. Volunteers are considered to be a crucial part of the staging of a FIFA World Cup.

Coming up in the second half of the year will be the FIFA Confederations Cup Brazil 2013 draw, which should take place in November or December. The settings for this draw and the Final Draw for Brazil 2014 – with the latter scheduled for late 2013 – will be decided upon in the first half of 2012. Another eagerly-anticipated feature of the build-up to the two competitions relates to ticket sales, with the tickets for FIFA Confederations Cup 2013 going on sale from late 2012.

The level of organisation is this intense so that, come 2014, both Brazilians and people the world over can enjoy a great festival of football.LOC President
Ricardo Teixeira

Also to be defined over the coming year are the kick-off times of the matches at the 2014 FIFA World Cup, as well as the dates and kick-off times at Brazil 2013. In terms of the latter event, an important decision relating to the involvement of two further host cities – in addition to the four already selected back in 2011 – will be taken over the course of 2012. It will thus be revealed whether or not Recife and Salvador will host games at the prestigious competition.

Plenty of hard work certainly lies ahead in 2012 in preparing the operational side of both events. It will be a year of operational integration for the various spheres of action coordinated by the Local Organising Committee (LOC), which will become gradually more and more decentralised across the 12 Host Cities of Brazil 2014. This process will lay the groundwork to ensure operational readiness come 2013.

By the end of 2012, the first of the 12 stadiums to be used at Brazil 2014 should have been finished, while there will be two further inscription phases – one in the first half of the year and the other in the second – on the road towards selecting the potential National Team Training Centres (CTSs). The definitive shortlist of available CTSs will be presented in 2013, with the final choice going to the 32 participating national teams.

“The FIFA World Cup is getting closer and more and more people are getting involved. Even more life will be breathed into the event in 2012 with the launch of the mascot, the slogan and the volunteer programme,” said LOC President Ricardo Teixeira.

“Operational projects will gather pace in order to be able to carry out all the tests necessary come 2013, the year of the FIFA Confederations Cup, which features major national sides and is being prepared for just as carefully [as the FIFA World Cup]. The level of organisation is this intense so that, come 2014, both Brazilians and people the world over can enjoy a great festival of football, one that future generations will also be able to enjoy.”

Bezzi

January 10th, 2012, 06:39 PM

New renders of Fonte Nova Stadium

Ótimas fotos! Parabéns Salvador!

Algumas imagens de um vídeo que eu achei na internet:

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Mais imagens nesse link: http://vimeopro.com/unloop/portfolio/video/32754036

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HMMS

January 11th, 2012, 12:25 AM

Apparently I know much more about Brazil than you. Guess where I am right now, and guess how many brazilian cities and airports I've been to only this year? Probably, many more than you have. ;)
Don't live in denial, it's not healthy for you. :)

:blahblah:...............Oh my God!!!!!!!you are well presumptuous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DannyelBrazil

January 11th, 2012, 06:33 AM

DannyelBrazil

January 11th, 2012, 06:35 AM

Dude, don't worry, there are still seems to be a large part of the brazilian population that take criticisms about the REALITY of the country and government very personally, but I tell you they only take it personally when being told by a foreigner. It their personal time they also criticise the country (a lot) and that is part of the day to day life of a brazilian.

There are many ways to talk and discuss problems, delays and even optimistic feelings some people have the right to show.
So let's organize the chat here, abolish menaces and challenges and start talk in a good mood. :)

DannyelBrazil

January 11th, 2012, 06:46 AM

Ok Enzo, I readed all your posts here and you only pointed "I'm sure projects will be not ready", "lost projects", "airpors will be not be done".

Ok, I've been to many airports in Brazil last year too and they are far from what we want and they will be not amazing as Dubai or Beijing airport...

But works for what the airports "really needs" have been under way, and I CAN SAY THAT because I saw the works with my own eyes, still the works ARE SO SLOW that makes me SO ANGRY!!!

That's a truth: Governement Airport Maintenance Co. Infraero only started the real works in the end of last year and the pace is really behing the desirable.
But, the 3 keys airports: Brasilia, Viracopos and Sao Paulo-Guarulhos will be sent to private companies - which is a light in the end of tunnel, since the privatized companies works much better without all stupid govt. bureaucracy.

Rio de Janeiro-Galeao will be the sole big airport Infraero will operate, so, in theory, all resources must be sent to this place.
Galeao have already a huge capacity of passengers and it's mostly idle. The problem here is to modernize and refurbsh the old terminal - not big challenge, I can tell you, but also Infraero is doing it a really slow pace and doing ugly decoration stuff...

Curitiba Airport's main problem is fog, but the ILS4 system is under implementation since October 2011, and will be available soon.
The work in the new runaway of Salvador Airport already started and Fortaleza Airport is already under upgrade and other airports are increasing parking lots and changing all the signage... Things have been done.

It's a not a fact of living on denial, but, I can understand you by seeing our airports today, the situation is not nice, but can we have the right to be a bit optimistic and wait a little for a speed up on the works?

HMMS

January 11th, 2012, 04:59 PM

Talk without knowing of the airports of Brazil, but the expected movement of tourists, both domestic and foreign, for ONE month's 2014 World Cup, is the same as we have every year for ONE WEEK at the carnival !!!!!!!!

About it we see how one speaks without knowing the real facts .......

Another thing, I as a Brazilian, can speak bad things of the government of my country, your problems and defects!!!!

But now, American, Australian, French, etc., who care about their, which incidentally, are not few !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And worse, to talk that know more that me about Brazil !!!!!!!!!!!!???? really is too much for me ..........

Enzo

January 12th, 2012, 02:13 PM

...

It's a not a fact of living on denial, but, I can understand you by seeing our airports today, the situation is not nice, but can we have the right to be a bit optimistic and wait a little for a speed up on the works?

I really try hard to be optimistic with the brazilian government (Federal, State and Municipal), but it is not an easy task, Specially when you read today's news...

I'll give you one example: Brazil's rainy season brings a lot of tragedy every year, and every year the government repeats the same promises, that they will fix the problems caused by it and do all the necessary work to prevent more catastrophe, however, very little are done before next season, in must cases, nothing is made about it. And again, many innocent people are killed by mudslides and rain, thousands are forced to flee their homes, cities and towns devastated by the season are left to their own devices... So, it is very hard to be optimistic with a government like that, but I'll try my best. :)
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As for the World Cup, read these articles in portuguese:

De 13 aeroportos em obras, 9 não ficarão prontos até 2014

Levantamento do Ipea mostra atraso generalizado nos projetos de infraestrutura

Estudo do Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica Aplicada (Ipea) demonstrou em números o que o país inteiro já adivinhava: grande parte dos aeroportos que recebem investimentos em ampliação e reformas para a Copa do Mundo não ficará pronta a tempo do inícios dos jogos. Segundo o levantamento, 8 dos 13 terminais não serão adaptados no prazo e não também não há estimativa de conclusão das obras do novo aeroporto de Natal. Galeão, no Rio, Recife e Curitiba estão como cronograma mais adiantado. Os atrasos colocam em xeque aeroportos cruciais para a Copa, como Guarulhos, Brasília, Salvador, Confins, Porto Alegre e Cuiabá.

Brasil Econômico/AC
http://rio-negocios.com/de-13-aeroportos-em-obras-9-nao-ficarao-prontos-ate-2014/

Aeroportos para Copa não estarão prontos até 2014, alerta Ipea

Estudo do Ipea (Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica e Aplicada), órgão ligado à presidência da República, prevê que as obras em nove aeroportos de cidades sedes da Copa 2014 não ficarão prontas até o evento.

A Infraero, estatal que administra o aeroporto, informou que "sobre o estudo em questão, desconhece as bases técnicas utilizadas e não participou de qualquer discussão, de modo que não pode fazer qualquer tipo de avaliação a respeito."

O estudo, assinado pelos pesquisadores Carlos Alvares da Silva Campos Neto e Frederico Hartmann de Souza, aponta que a média de prazo de obras de infraestrutura de transporte no país é de 80 meses após o fim da fase de projetos.

De acordo com os pesquisadores, as obras dos aeroportos de Manaus (AM), Fortaleza (CE), Brasília (DF), Guarulhos (SP), Salvador (BA), Campinas (SP) e Cuiabá (MT) em 2010 ainda estavam em fase de projeto e só ficariam prontas em 2017, caso os prazos médios de elaboração de projetos, licenciamentos etc, sejam iguais aos da média no país. Já os de Confins (MG) e Porto Alegre (RS) estão com projetos básicos prontos e também não ficariam prontos a tempo da Copa.

O Ipea também critica o plano de ampliação da Infraero para estes aeroportos. Segundo o estudo, ainda que a média de crescimento do número de passageiros seja um pouco menor nos próximos quatro anos, quando as obras ficaram prontas a capacidade dos aeroportos já estará no limite novamente. Um dos exemplos citados é o do Aeroporto de Vitória, que tem previsão de ampliação para 2,1 milhões de passageiros/ano e, em 2010, o aeroporto já teve 2,3 milhões.

Os estudiosos apontam que a Infraero apresenta nos últimos anos dificuldades para aplicar seus planos de investimento. Segundo eles, no período entre 2003 e 2010, a empresa só aplicou 44% dos recursos que estavam previstos para ampliação de aeroportos. De 2009 para 2010, três aeroportos (Natal, Manaus e Maceió) passaram à categoria de "Situação Crítica", ou seja, estão com número de passageiros acima de sua capacidade prevista. Dos 20 maiores aeroportos, 14 estão em situação crítica. Três estão em situação "preocupante" (ocupação acima de 80%) e três estão em situação adequada (abaixo de 80%).
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/esporte/902559-aeroportos-para-copa-nao-estarao-prontos-ate-2014-alerta-ipea.shtml

There are many more articles about BRT's, Subways, VLT, Roads and so on...

Gutovsky

January 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM

Enzo,

Most of these airports are ready. What may not be ready are their expansions and renovations - some of them already support huge traffic daily (operation over 80% capacity), so there may be some discomfort for the passengers, but some are just under capacity, according to the news posted by yourself above (and they may receive international flights as well). That does not justify changing venues to other countries, though. Actually, you're the first person I've heard saying anything like that, and also the only one standing by your own opinion.

Also, remember people saying São Paulo wouldn't be a host city because it did not have a stadium. Have you checked the works to the Corinthians' Arena? Do not doubt our ability to overcome problems!

ruifo

January 12th, 2012, 03:51 PM

The airport problem in Brazil is not related to the 2014 W.C. It is, instead, related to the annual double digit growth of Brazilian aviation in the last decade.

Full data is found here:
http://www.infraero.gov.br/index.php/br/estatistica-dos-aeroportos.html

Check this table I've put together, and see how the top 20 Brazilian airports (by pax movement) are growing and also check one of the estimatives for the pax movement in 2014 (just an estimative).

The "WC" you see is just marking the 2014 host cities and their serving airports.

http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/br-airport-movement-2003-2006-2009-2011-2014-estimative.jpg

With such growth in a single decade, airport infrastructures are realy saturated today (2011). The expansion plan for 2014 is emergencial, and will not cover all the righht needs that Brazilian passengers have on their day by day trips.

HMMS

January 12th, 2012, 04:51 PM

I really try hard to be optimistic with the brazilian government (Federal, State and Municipal), but it is not an easy task, Specially when you read today's news...

I'll give you one example: Brazil's rainy season brings a lot of tragedy every year, and every year the government repeats the same promises, that they will fix the problems caused by it and do all the necessary work to prevent more catastrophe, however, very little are done before next season, in must cases, nothing is made about it. And again, many innocent people are killed by mudslides and rain, thousands are forced to flee their homes, cities and towns devastated by the season are left to their own devices... So, it is very hard to be optimistic with a government like that, but I'll try my best. :)
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
As for the World Cup, read these articles in portuguese:

De 13 aeroportos em obras, 9 não ficarão prontos até 2014

Levantamento do Ipea mostra atraso generalizado nos projetos de infraestrutura

Estudo do Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica Aplicada (Ipea) demonstrou em números o que o país inteiro já adivinhava: grande parte dos aeroportos que recebem investimentos em ampliação e reformas para a Copa do Mundo não ficará pronta a tempo do inícios dos jogos. Segundo o levantamento, 8 dos 13 terminais não serão adaptados no prazo e não também não há estimativa de conclusão das obras do novo aeroporto de Natal. Galeão, no Rio, Recife e Curitiba estão como cronograma mais adiantado. Os atrasos colocam em xeque aeroportos cruciais para a Copa, como Guarulhos, Brasília, Salvador, Confins, Porto Alegre e Cuiabá.

Brasil Econômico/AC
http://rio-negocios.com/de-13-aeroportos-em-obras-9-nao-ficarao-prontos-ate-2014/

Aeroportos para Copa não estarão prontos até 2014, alerta Ipea

Estudo do Ipea (Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica e Aplicada), órgão ligado à presidência da República, prevê que as obras em nove aeroportos de cidades sedes da Copa 2014 não ficarão prontas até o evento.

A Infraero, estatal que administra o aeroporto, informou que "sobre o estudo em questão, desconhece as bases técnicas utilizadas e não participou de qualquer discussão, de modo que não pode fazer qualquer tipo de avaliação a respeito."

O estudo, assinado pelos pesquisadores Carlos Alvares da Silva Campos Neto e Frederico Hartmann de Souza, aponta que a média de prazo de obras de infraestrutura de transporte no país é de 80 meses após o fim da fase de projetos.

De acordo com os pesquisadores, as obras dos aeroportos de Manaus (AM), Fortaleza (CE), Brasília (DF), Guarulhos (SP), Salvador (BA), Campinas (SP) e Cuiabá (MT) em 2010 ainda estavam em fase de projeto e só ficariam prontas em 2017, caso os prazos médios de elaboração de projetos, licenciamentos etc, sejam iguais aos da média no país. Já os de Confins (MG) e Porto Alegre (RS) estão com projetos básicos prontos e também não ficariam prontos a tempo da Copa.

O Ipea também critica o plano de ampliação da Infraero para estes aeroportos. Segundo o estudo, ainda que a média de crescimento do número de passageiros seja um pouco menor nos próximos quatro anos, quando as obras ficaram prontas a capacidade dos aeroportos já estará no limite novamente. Um dos exemplos citados é o do Aeroporto de Vitória, que tem previsão de ampliação para 2,1 milhões de passageiros/ano e, em 2010, o aeroporto já teve 2,3 milhões.

Os estudiosos apontam que a Infraero apresenta nos últimos anos dificuldades para aplicar seus planos de investimento. Segundo eles, no período entre 2003 e 2010, a empresa só aplicou 44% dos recursos que estavam previstos para ampliação de aeroportos. De 2009 para 2010, três aeroportos (Natal, Manaus e Maceió) passaram à categoria de "Situação Crítica", ou seja, estão com número de passageiros acima de sua capacidade prevista. Dos 20 maiores aeroportos, 14 estão em situação crítica. Três estão em situação "preocupante" (ocupação acima de 80%) e três estão em situação adequada (abaixo de 80%).
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/esporte/902559-aeroportos-para-copa-nao-estarao-prontos-ate-2014-alerta-ipea.shtml

There are many more articles about BRT's, Subways, VLT, Roads and so on...

Dude, do not get stressed, the works are in a normal rhythm, it will be fully ready by the 2014 World Cup ..............:)

But, if you really think that we will not have airports and stadiums ready .................. simply, do not come to Brazil in 2014, stay where you are !!!!!!!!!:)

The article you posted, has been well discussed and the conclusion was that it was overblown.

Another thing, several airports are already under construction, such as Manaus, Natal, Campinas, Belo Horizonte, Salvador, Cuiaba, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Curitiba, Fortaleza, etc.

Many other works are also now in progress, so, I repeat, do not stress !!!!!!!!ok!!!!!!!!!!:)

Axelferis

January 12th, 2012, 05:43 PM

In An interview Romario claims that most of major infrastructures won't be ready in time.

He still be sceptic for 2014

Bezzi

January 12th, 2012, 05:52 PM

Romário??? As a politician he is a good player :lol:

Axelferis

January 12th, 2012, 06:09 PM

he's brazilian and could testify some disfunctionements

Bezzi

January 12th, 2012, 06:10 PM

It seems that the trolls have invaded this thread. London 2012 is the thread of the moment with their problems on the tickets. Why don't you go bother there?

Enzo

January 12th, 2012, 06:28 PM

Dude, do not get stressed, the works are in a normal rhythm, it will be fully ready by the 2014 World Cup ..............:)

But, if you really think that we will not have airports and stadiums ready .................. simply, do not come to Brazil in 2014, stay where you are !!!!!!!!!:)

The article you posted, has been well discussed and the conclusion was that it was overblown.

Another thing, several airports are already under construction, such as Manaus, Natal, Campinas, Belo Horizonte, Salvador, Cuiaba, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Curitiba, Fortaleza, etc.

Many other works are also now in progress, so, I repeat, do not stress !!!!!!!!ok!!!!!!!!!!:)
Apparently you are the only one stressed here, I am totally cool about it.
Just keep doing your best at INFRAERO, so you don't have to get all worked up about my criticism. :)

HMMS

January 12th, 2012, 11:51 PM

he's brazilian and could testify some disfunctionements

Many brazilians think different way that Romario, he is not serious.............:ohno:

FAAN

January 13th, 2012, 12:04 AM

I believe this is a World Cup to stay in the history of FIFA, after all there are 12 modern stadiums and major urban regeneration projects. Those who do not believe the Brazilian capacity to wait to see the show that is this World Cup.

Axelferis

January 13th, 2012, 08:05 AM

i believe Rio 2016 will be ready

But 2014 WC brazil general projects won't (airports,roads)

Chris00

January 13th, 2012, 09:55 AM

Crystal balls busy in this thread...

DannyelBrazil

January 13th, 2012, 02:26 PM

I really try hard to be optimistic with the brazilian government (Federal, State and Municipal), but it is not an easy task, Specially when you read today's news...

I'll give you one example: Brazil's rainy season brings a lot of tragedy every year, and every year the government repeats the same promises, that they will fix the problems caused by it and do all the necessary work to prevent more catastrophe, however, very little are done before next season, in must cases, nothing is made about it. And again, many innocent people are killed by mudslides and rain, thousands are forced to flee their homes, cities and towns devastated by the season are left to their own devices... So, it is very hard to be optimistic with a government like that, but I'll try my best. :)
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As for the World Cup, read these articles in portuguese:

De 13 aeroportos em obras, 9 não ficarão prontos até 2014

Levantamento do Ipea mostra atraso generalizado nos projetos de infraestrutura

Estudo do Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica Aplicada (Ipea) demonstrou em números o que o país inteiro já adivinhava: grande parte dos aeroportos que recebem investimentos em ampliação e reformas para a Copa do Mundo não ficará pronta a tempo do inícios dos jogos. Segundo o levantamento, 8 dos 13 terminais não serão adaptados no prazo e não também não há estimativa de conclusão das obras do novo aeroporto de Natal. Galeão, no Rio, Recife e Curitiba estão como cronograma mais adiantado. Os atrasos colocam em xeque aeroportos cruciais para a Copa, como Guarulhos, Brasília, Salvador, Confins, Porto Alegre e Cuiabá.

Brasil Econômico/AC
http://rio-negocios.com/de-13-aeroportos-em-obras-9-nao-ficarao-prontos-ate-2014/

Aeroportos para Copa não estarão prontos até 2014, alerta Ipea

Estudo do Ipea (Instituto de Pesquisa Econômica e Aplicada), órgão ligado à presidência da República, prevê que as obras em nove aeroportos de cidades sedes da Copa 2014 não ficarão prontas até o evento.

A Infraero, estatal que administra o aeroporto, informou que "sobre o estudo em questão, desconhece as bases técnicas utilizadas e não participou de qualquer discussão, de modo que não pode fazer qualquer tipo de avaliação a respeito."

O estudo, assinado pelos pesquisadores Carlos Alvares da Silva Campos Neto e Frederico Hartmann de Souza, aponta que a média de prazo de obras de infraestrutura de transporte no país é de 80 meses após o fim da fase de projetos.

De acordo com os pesquisadores, as obras dos aeroportos de Manaus (AM), Fortaleza (CE), Brasília (DF), Guarulhos (SP), Salvador (BA), Campinas (SP) e Cuiabá (MT) em 2010 ainda estavam em fase de projeto e só ficariam prontas em 2017, caso os prazos médios de elaboração de projetos, licenciamentos etc, sejam iguais aos da média no país. Já os de Confins (MG) e Porto Alegre (RS) estão com projetos básicos prontos e também não ficariam prontos a tempo da Copa.

O Ipea também critica o plano de ampliação da Infraero para estes aeroportos. Segundo o estudo, ainda que a média de crescimento do número de passageiros seja um pouco menor nos próximos quatro anos, quando as obras ficaram prontas a capacidade dos aeroportos já estará no limite novamente. Um dos exemplos citados é o do Aeroporto de Vitória, que tem previsão de ampliação para 2,1 milhões de passageiros/ano e, em 2010, o aeroporto já teve 2,3 milhões.

Os estudiosos apontam que a Infraero apresenta nos últimos anos dificuldades para aplicar seus planos de investimento. Segundo eles, no período entre 2003 e 2010, a empresa só aplicou 44% dos recursos que estavam previstos para ampliação de aeroportos. De 2009 para 2010, três aeroportos (Natal, Manaus e Maceió) passaram à categoria de "Situação Crítica", ou seja, estão com número de passageiros acima de sua capacidade prevista. Dos 20 maiores aeroportos, 14 estão em situação crítica. Três estão em situação "preocupante" (ocupação acima de 80%) e três estão em situação adequada (abaixo de 80%).
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/esporte/902559-aeroportos-para-copa-nao-estarao-prontos-ate-2014-alerta-ipea.shtml

There are many more articles about BRT's, Subways, VLT, Roads and so on...

First of all, no road was "promised" by Brazili bid to World Cup, except the Ring Highway around Sao Paulo, and this after changing the project from Morumbi to Itaquera. The works are full steam and the highway will be delivered before the World Cup.

About Airports, all of them are under works, the article you've posted is a bit old.
Still, the pace is slow at this time. And it is slow, HMMS, you can't deny that.
At same time, President Dilma is working to speed up the works. The only "worriable" airports will be sent to private companies - in Brazil this work very will, so yes, I have the right to be optimistic.

About subways, all of the promised subways are being finished to the World Cup: Fortaleza and Salvador.
Salvador Line 2 is a utopic political promise from some politicians and have nothing to do with the World Cup, since the stadium is located in the line 1 to be opened in june 2012.
Fortaleza just received all the trains for the new subway system. Report on TV this week.
And Rio doesn't need new subway line for World Cup, only for the Olympic Games and the works is under way, indeed, already causing a major chaos in Ipanema and Leblon neighbourhoods.

We DO HAVE a problem with VLT systems in Cuiaba and Brasilia. Both are REALLY DELAYED and will cause discomfort to the tourists in both cities. But, let's face it: both cities can place exclusive lanes for buses and have everybody inside the stadium in old fashionable way - which is not nice, but South Africa did it in 2010 and Beijing in 2008... IT HAPPENS!

Also, some cities still have problems with number of hotel rooms (Rio and Belo Horizonte specially, but both have been addressed, Rio is buiding NOW 10,000 hotels room to be ready next year - pretty enough).

So, yes, the pace of the works are not Chinese or even European, but the works have been done, and as we already know, everything will be ready just a couple of days before the World Cup starts - as always in Brazil - and THIS IS NOT NICE, but at least, everything will be ready.

I'm really worried about VLTs - Brazil is great on not delivering VLTs systems...

DannyelBrazil

January 13th, 2012, 02:35 PM

i believe Rio 2016 will be ready

But 2014 WC brazil general projects won't (airports,roads)

Again, which roads are you guys talking about???
No road was promised to the World Cup. Indeed, it's surreal to follow a national team in Brazil by car...
Imagine the first match in Curitiba and the second match in Manaus 6,000 Km of driving away...

Nobody promised roads for the World Cup, except for Sao Paulo Govt. and the east wing of Ring Highway around SP metro area.

DannyelBrazil

January 13th, 2012, 02:51 PM

And again, many innocent people are killed by mudslides and rain, thousands are forced to flee their homes, cities and towns devastated by the season are left to their own devices... So, it is very hard to be optimistic with a government like that, but I'll try my best. :)

But shit with mudslides and rainy seasons happens everywhere, everytime... Indeed, in rich countries.

The task is how to prevent that and convince people they MUST leave their homes when the rain is heavy and the mud is wet....

I know Nova Friburgo region very well and some area devastated was amazingly unexpected...
Still, I'm also tired of fake promises of our politicians...

And the rebuilding efforts are a shame... In part, the rebuilding project was very nice, but, as always, the money is stuck in bureaucracy or corruption.

HMMS

January 13th, 2012, 04:58 PM

i believe Rio 2016 will be ready

But 2014 WC brazil general projects won't (airports,roads)

First thing, where are you from?

But.........You're being very annoying !!!!!!!:ohno:

You don't know the Brazil, and the builders we even works with the world, so stop talking nonsense and wait until 2014.

You know our airports, roads, public transport, how will the reforms when they are delivered, etc.............so..........

All works are being done and will be delivered on time, you can rest assured ..............:)

But as I said to the Enzo, if you really think that we will not do a good World Cup, simple, do not come to Brazil in 2014, ok?:okay:

Axelferis

January 13th, 2012, 08:03 PM

DannyelBrazil

January 14th, 2012, 03:47 AM

i have invented nothing man :rant:

If everything goes well why FIFA constantly warns your country? :|

What news TV globo provides you?
I 'm french man and Fifa headquarters are in Switzerland then in Europe.

FIFA is right on warning us about delays (like they did with South Africa), since the delays does exist at all, much because the stupid bureaucracy we face with complex laws, specially environmetal and heritage laws.

But, at the same time, NOW - jan 2012 - we can say everything are being built. Delayed, yes, UNFORTUNATELLY, but everything (except Tram Systems) are in builing.

It's normal Europeans to not understand how things works in other countries, specially emerging ones and a country full of laws and requirements like Brazil.
For the good or the evil, Brazil works in a different pace than Europe.

Somehow, you guys are guilty for that. Since Europeans are the ones who bring the stupid way of bureaucracy to this continent with all the shit of colonial era.
It will take centuries to us to get rid of that, so, for a while, this is the way things works here, get used to our pace of doing things.

michał_

January 14th, 2012, 04:38 AM

If everything goes well why FIFA constantly warns your country? :|

So if UEFA constantly warned Portugal, then even Switzerland (!) and nothing bad happened to the tournaments - what does that tell us? If FIFA was worried officially even by the German world cup venues (Kaiserslautern, to name one) and a lot more about the South African tournament and yet nothing bad happened - what does that tell us? Maybe, dear Axel, it's time to stop taking all media crap seriously. If everything was to be like the European media suggested back in South Africa, there would be thousands killed (sooo many murders in SA, right?), thousands with newly detected HIV (so many infected prostitutes, right?) and a new malaria pandemia because they've warned us numerous times that countries bordering SA are still not through with this problem...
Get real - Brazil is doing really fine! Tremendous work is being done. No other country in this world is building so many stadiums! And why on earth do you have to remind them all the time that FIFA is worried? Saying it once would be enough, doing it 10 times is stupid.

Axelferis

January 14th, 2012, 11:35 AM

if everything is ok then a superb WC 2014 waiting for the world :cheers:

HMMS

January 14th, 2012, 05:32 PM

^^

Dude, you have no idea of how the buildings are in Brazil, while Europe is in a tremendous crisis, we are very thing and we have much to do!

These works are being done at all levels for the 2014 World Cup, FIFA and the media often exaggerate, and if by FIFA, no country would be in the works for days in a cup !!!!!!!! !

Just to give you an idea, talking with a friend on road trips, he said he was in my city, Campinas-São Paulo to Natal-Rio Grande do Norte, is 2,952 km and the distance across the roads were perfect the trip was very tranquil, and were still improving even more ...........

And that is not work for the 2014 World Cup, so do not take to conclusions just by FIFA or Globo TV, all will be well up there !!!!!!!!

Of course, perfect, no country has achieved or will achieve, but the World Cup in Brazil will be very, very nice and all the comfort, you can bet !!!!!!!:)

DannyelBrazil

January 14th, 2012, 10:13 PM

if everything is ok then a superb WC 2014 waiting for the world :cheers:

I wouldn't say 100% of the works are asured or all about the World Cup is OK, but, the works have been happening and you guys can check how fast (or not) are them by seeing the pictures of the works in the Brazilian Forums about WC 2014, there are plenty of pictures and graphics for your delight.

Airports still worries a bit
Tram systems are still a dream
And signage in foreign language is really inexistent now

Apart of it, the World Cup works are going to be completed (and - as always in Brazil - some in the last minutes).

rmello

January 17th, 2012, 12:21 AM

What people dont understand is the fact that Brazil is a developing country. We are not yet a developed country, and we will take some decades to reach this level. As a country in development, we dont have perfect infra-structure. We dont have perfect airports and roads, nor a perfect public transport system. They are not perfect but they WORK! Not perfectly, not in the best way, but they REALLY work!

The mistake people make is thinking that a WC could make a country in only 6 or 7 years (the time between the annoucement of the host country and the WC), become a perfect country. It is simply not possible! Its not possible to make wide underground transport systems in our 12 huge metropolis. It is impossible to renew all the roads (thousands and thousands of km) that link the host cities of this continent-size country. We are making our best and people who are coming, have to know that they'll find a worse infra-structure here in comparison to a developed country. Brazil is doing the best to receive the tourists with the best infra-structure possible for our level of development. Brazil is doing a really outstanding work, mainly in the stadiums: they will be the best!

Axelferis

January 17th, 2012, 08:43 AM

another news:

FIFA hurges Brazil to vote the law enabling to drink alcohol during matches.
News?

DannyelBrazil

January 17th, 2012, 08:55 AM

another news:

FIFA hurges Brazil to vote the law enabling to drink alcohol during matches.
News?

As in any democracy, they need 50%+1 to approve that, and Brazilian congress is playing hard on negociations, since they want to asure elderly and student rights (that are already in constitution) back.

As in any democracy, when there isn't a consensus, they need to negociate.

Answering your question, it seems the agreement is near to be reached.

Axelferis

January 17th, 2012, 12:03 PM

ok i just saw the news this morning :)

ruifo

January 17th, 2012, 12:13 PM

New updates from Fortaleza:

16.01.2012

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Quem quiser ver todas: http://esportes.opovo.com.br/app/galeria/2012/01/16/internagaleriadefotos,33/confira-as-imagens-da-obra.shtml

Essa foto ainda não postaram por aqui eu acho...o Cid visitando as obras...

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Pessoal...ali no canto inferior direito...não seria uma cadeira vermelha retrátil??? será que já começaram a testar alguma??

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A Arquibancada não terá fundações?

hseugut

January 17th, 2012, 01:11 PM

todos os estadios vão ficar increiveis ! Vai ser a melhor copa do mundo do millenio !

georgejungle3

January 17th, 2012, 04:50 PM

how hard is to not feed the trolls? they want attention, if you don't reply to them they'll go.

Just keep focusing on the works and posting pics, news, etc. Don't waste your time replying to trolls. It derails the thread and will give you a headache.

ruifo

January 18th, 2012, 02:31 AM

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87649936#post87649936

http://www.copa2014.gov.br/pt-br/noticia/para-valcke-fortaleza-esta-entre-favoritas-para-receber-sorteio-da-copa

17/01/2012 - 13:25

TO VALCKE, FORTALEZA IS A STRONG CANDIDATE TO GET CUP DRAW

The secretary general of FIFA proved enthusiastic about the progress of works in Castelão and events center in Fortaleza

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The FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke, praised the progress of works and the Arena Castelão was impressed with the event center in Fortaleza, pleads host the draw for the FIFA World Cup 2014. Accompanied by Ronaldo Nazario, a member of the Board of the LOC, Valcke visited on Tuesday morning (17:01) the building of the center and then the stadium Castelão. "You know me. If I have to say something negative, I say. The center of events that I saw today is impressive. You can drive a bus in there. There is a great possibility that it is the headquarters of the draw, an event to three thousand guests and thousand workers of the press. There are several candidates, but there is a strong possibility, "said Valcke at a press conference in the building Fares Candido Lopes, part of the first stage of construction of the stadium Ceará, already completed.

Then, the opening questions for reporters, Valcke said again that Fortaleza is among the strong candidates to receive the draw. "Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro also compete, but Rio has received a lot of qualifiers and want to share events between cities, then the river should not receive. But the local organizing committee will make its assessment and will go to FIFA. "

The former player and member of COL, Ronaldo Nazario, said he was pleasantly surprised to visit the fairgrounds. "In Brazil I have not seen anything like it and will definitely be of good use for the World Cup," he said.

The Events Center is over 90% of works completed and the government is forecasting that it will be delivered in May. The investment was nearly $ 500 million, R $ 150 million financed by BNDES and R $ 63 million grant from the Ministry of Tourism and the rest of the government of Ceará. According to Secretary of Tourism of Ceará, Bismarck Maia, the deployment of the lack of lighting and data transmission and furniture for the completion of works. "This is a space that can be used for various demands during the Confederations Cup and World Cup, as the structure of the press, for example. We have more than adequate physical space, but technology. What's best in terms of data transmission will be here, "said Maia.

Mobility

The mayor of Fortaleza, Lizianne Lins, and the company contracted to four projects for urban mobility in Fortaleza, signed the work order for interventions to be initiated. "It's four great works of responsibility matrix of the World Cup that the municipality has committed to are building tunnels, road network, lighting, water runoff from roads, we will start immediately. The company is already contracted. "

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Arena

With 54% of works completed, the stadium Castelão has already completed two of four steps, the expected delivery of the future arena of the Confederations Cup and World Cup is scheduled for delivery in December this year. "I'm sure this Fort anxious to receive the Cup and the city is close to delivering an early stage. This anxiety is reflected in the effort to the works of mobility, stadium and airport. I have one word for you, congratulations, you are to be congratulated, "Valcke said at the conference. The group goes to Salvador and later on Tuesday visit the works of another Arena Cup, the New Source.

Gabriel Fialho - Portal da Copa

Events' Center of Ceará:
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ruifo

January 18th, 2012, 02:42 AM

http://pt.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1570032/index.html

Praise for Fortaleza and Salvador

(FIFA.com) Tuesday January 17, 2012

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The FIFA Secretary General Jerome Valcke, and the idol Brazilian Ronaldo , as a member of the Board of the Local Organizing Committee of the FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014, impressed in the first two stops of the tour that will visit 12 host cities the tournament. The tour kicked off today in Fortaleza and Salvador.

"The experience we had today was just amazing," said Valcke. "I must admit that both Ronaldo and I were impressed with the commitment to detail and excellent integrated planning for the FIFA World Cup 2014 in Fortaleza and Salvador. The activities are not limited to preparations for the World, and all plans are running to ensure a legacy of social, infrastructural and environmental development for beyond 2014. I congratulate both cities for their efforts, "the secretary general of FIFA, who praised the warm welcome and strong support from politicians and local residents in their first visit to Fortaleza and Salvador.

"I must say it was great, at least once, not to mention the famous law," Valcke said, referring to the General Law of the tournament. "It's good to see what people are organizing in Brazil and the work being done in cities and states, plus the passion and the expectations of people in cities. It makes me very happy and confident that we will have a great World Cup FIFA in 2014. " The leader also used the occasion to promise that all men working in the construction of 12 stadiums in the country will receive tickets to a game site that helped build. "They are working from sunrise to sunset to ensure that the stadiums are completed on time, are part of the success of the organization and should be rewarded," said the Frenchman. "On behalf of FIFA, I promise to take care of it in partnership with the local organizing committee."

Ronaldo 's comments echoed Valcke. "It was great to see the enthusiasm of the workers, is something that excites me," said former player. "I want to challenge the workers of the stadiums that are currently under construction to face a team that I will choose. I want to share this amazing moment with them. They are putting a lot of dedication and effort in the project."

"Today we showed that Brazilians can be proud of what we will accomplish," continued Ronaldo . "I want to thank everyone in the two cities and states for the great hospitality, but even more for the professional preparation for our visit. The people of these places can be proud. And this is my mission for the FIFA World Cup: ensure that, regardless of the Brazil win or not the pitch - something that I twist, of course - impress foreigners by our organizational skills and the way how to greet those who visit Brazil . Fortaleza and Salvador gave a great example of this trip. "

"It's good to see what people are organizing in Brazil and the work being done in cities and states, as well as passion and expectation of people in cities." - Jérôme Valcke, FIFA Secretary General

The tour began early on Tuesday in Fortaleza, where the delegation of FIFA and the LOC visited the works of the Convention Center and Stadium Castelão in the company's vice-governor of Ceará, Domingos Son, the state secretary for the Cup World Cup, Ferruccio Feitosa, and the mayor Luizianne Lins. Outside the stadium, the group officially launched the countdown to the opening of the site, scheduled for December 30, 2012. Next year, the capital of Ceara will also host a semi-finals of the FIFA Confederations Cup.

"Fortaleza made an incredible job so far and is on track," Valcke pointed. "The city is also a good candidate to receive the final draw. She is able to do so from the standpoint of location, accommodation and infrastructure. The interest in hosting this important event, which has a TV audience of a game of World Cup the world is enormous. The competition course will be great and this year will be decided by the Organizing Committee of the FIFA World Cup on the recommendation of the LOC after a comprehensive assessment is in progress. "

At the press conference, the FIFA Secretary General also stressed it was important that the various official events related to Brazil in 2014 to be distributed equally among all the host cities. In this context, Valcke believes that the Rio de Janeiro can not be contemplated as the headquarters of the Final Draw for the fact of having been the venue of the preliminary draw in July last year.

In the afternoon, after the tour was in Salvador. The delegation of FIFA and the LOC in Salvador was received by the governor Jaques Wagner and Deputy Mayor Edvaldo Brito, beyond the sports minister Aldo Rebelo. Next to Recife, Salvador June waits for confirmation to host the FIFA Confederations Cup 2013. "It's a huge challenge to complete this stage in December 2012, but now having found the team I am confident that if the work continues with the same enthusiasm, things will be done in time, including in terms of accommodation and transport, also for FIFA Confederations Cup, "said FIFA Secretary General. "The stadium in Salvador is magnificent, with its beautiful surroundings."

"The government has no doubts about the ability of Salvador in organizing big events, and a good example of this is Carnival", said the Minister of Sports. "The General Law Cup is a commitment we made when the country has volunteered to host the event. It is important to note that Brazil has asked to organize the tournament and at that time, we agree with all requirements. Our goal was to pass the law by the end of last year, so in terms of law are not as advanced as in terms of stadium. We need to move forward and accelerate, but I'm confident that we can finish it by March. "

Translation: Courtesy by Google

Felipe \o/

January 18th, 2012, 04:38 AM

Arena Fonte Nova - Atualização
(17/01/2012)

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Secom-BA (http://www.comunicacao.ba.gov.br/fotos/2012/01/17/comitiva-da-fifa-visita-as-obras-da-arena-fonte-nova_)

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PejatBR

January 18th, 2012, 08:13 AM

PejatBR

January 18th, 2012, 08:14 AM

And sorry for my bad english, is a result of our wonderful public school.

PejatBR

January 18th, 2012, 08:18 AM

Instead of this facts i hope we could have a better WC than SA 2010. Im shure that the ambience is much more interesting for football than in countries like Qatar.
Nothing personal, i just would like to see a WC in a country like England or Portugal/Spain or Uruguay/Argentina. Where the football is everywhere, in despite of the money that FIFA want or other politics reasons.

fabbio_123

January 18th, 2012, 11:23 AM

ruifo

January 18th, 2012, 11:29 AM

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1569977/

Valcke, Ronaldo begin venue tour

(FIFA.com) Tuesday 17 January 2012

FIFA Secretary General Jérôme Valcke and Brazilian icon Ronaldo, in his capacity as LOC Administration Board member, were both impressed with their first host city tour stops in Fortaleza and Salvador today.

“It was simply great what we have experienced today. I have to admit that both Ronaldo and myself have been impressed by the commitment, the level of detail and the excellent integrated planning in both Fortaleza and Salvador for the 2014 FIFA World Cup,” said Valcke. “Their activities are not limited to the FIFA World Cup preparations, but all their plans are conducted in a way to ensure a social, infrastructural and environmental legacy beyond 2014. I have to congratulate both cities for their initiatives”, added the FIFA Secretary General, who praised the warm welcome and strong support by political authorities and locals both on his first visit to Fortaleza and Salvador.

“I have to say it was great to, for once, not talk about this famous bill. It’s good to see what people are organising in Brazil, what work is happening in the cities and states, to see the passion and the anticipation of the people in the cities. This makes me so happy and confident that we will have a great FIFA World Cup in 2014,” said Valcke, who also used the occasion to promise that every construction worker for the 12 stadiums across the country would receive a ticket for one match at the venue he/she has helped to build: “They are working stone by stone to make sure the stadiums are completed on time, and they are an integral part of the successful staging and should be rewarded. In the name of FIFA I promise that we will take care of this together with the LOC.”

"They are putting so much dedication and effort in this project." - Ronaldo on the efforts of the construction workers

“It was great to see the excitement of the workers, this touches me. I want to challenge the construction workers in every stadium that are in construction now, with a team that I will choose. I want to share such a great moment with them. They are putting so much dedication and effort in this project,” added Ronaldo, an icon of Brazilian football in a virtual echo of the Secretary General.

“Today showed that Brazilians can be proud of what they are going to achieve,” Ronaldo went on to add. “I want to thank everybody in both cities and states for the great hospitality, but even more for the professional preparation of our visits. The people in those venues can be proud. And this is my mission for the FIFA World Cup, namely to ensure that irrespective if Brazil will win or not on the pitch – which I naturally hope for – we will impress the foreigners by our organisational skills and by the way we welcome the visitors in Brazil. Fortaleza and Salvador have been a great example on this trip."

The tour began in the morning in Fortaleza where the FIFA and LOC delegation was shown around the soon-to-be completed Convention Centre and the Estadio Castelão by Vice-Governor Domingos Filho, State Secretary for the FIFA World Cup Ferruccio Feitosa and Mayor Luizianne Lins. Outside the stadium the delegation officially launched a countdown clock to the inauguration of the ground scheduled, as per plan, for 30 December 2012. Fortaleza will also host one of the semi-finals of next year’s FIFA Confederations Cup.

“Fortaleza has done a great job so far, they are well on track. Fortaleza is also a good candidate to be the host of the final draw. It has the capacity from the venue, accommodation and infrastructure standpoints. The interest to host this important event, which has a TV audience of a regular FIFA World Cup match, is huge. The competition is naturally big and the decision will be taken during this year by the Organising Committee for the FIFA World Cup based on the LOC recommendation following an on-going comprehensive evaluation.”

Final Draw up for offer

At the media briefing the FIFA Secretary General also stressed the importance that the various official events in the build-up of the 2014 FIFA World Cup should be equally spread across all host cities. In this context he believes that Rio de Janeiro cannot be considered as a Final Draw venue having hosted last year’s preliminary draw.

The tour continued in the afternoon in Salvador, where the delegation from FIFA/LOC was received by governor Jaques Wagner and deputy mayor Edvaldo Brito, and re-joined by the Minister of Sports Aldo Rebelo. Salvador still needs to seek re-confirmation along with Recife in June 2012 as FIFA Confederations Cup venues. “It is a huge challenge to finish this stadium by December 2012, but having met the team today I am confident that if the work is continuing with the same enthusiasm things will be on time, including accommodation and transportation also for the FIFA Confederations Cup. The stadium here in Salvador will be magnificent with all its impressive surroundings,” explained the FIFA Secretary General.

“The government has no doubts in the capacity of Salvador to organise major events, and a great example is the carnival,” mentioned the Sports Minister, who concluded by stressing that “the FIFA World Cup bill is a compromise the country committed to when it was bidding for hosting the event. It is important to note Brasil asked to host this event and at the time we agreed with all the requirements. Our goal was to have the bill approved by end of last year, so in terms of law we are not as ahead as we are in terms of stadiums. We need to move on and fasten up and I am confident that by March we can complete this.”

ruifo

January 18th, 2012, 12:08 PM

Sharing it here too, about Recife, another host city (subtitled in English):

UglrtDfC9Tk

ruifo

January 18th, 2012, 02:02 PM

More images of Fortaleza's Castelão Stadium, dated 16/Jan/2012

Mais fotos... 16/01/2012:

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Fonte: http://www.andrademendonca.com/

Wey

January 19th, 2012, 02:08 AM

And sorry for my bad english, is a result of our wonderful public school.

Oh don't underestimate your share of the guilt, I went to public school as well and managed to get by just fine in the disciplin - earning awards because of it, for that matter. All in all you are the only one responsible for how your life has turned out :)

Marsupalami

January 19th, 2012, 05:14 AM

The main projects in transport that we make in 2007, and promissed to FIFA are still only in the paper. Brazil lied, we can see less constructions being made that in South Africa 2010.We will make a WC with good stadiums, a good crowd, and a chaos to move from one host city to another.

The international airport in São Paulo is operating overcapacity since 2007/2008, and the 3rd terminal is still in paper. The rapid train projected to connect the Airport to the subway won't be made anymore. Thats one example that repeats in other hosts cities.

Is too sad to see half of what was promissed in 2007 in the trash.

And its a shame to see other brazilian trying to cover and concealing everything that other forumers say. "Everything is agains Brazil and bla bla bla..."

Shame on all of us.
I wish you all the best - I do agree that in South Africa's case, more transport related infrastructure was guarenteed, started, and ( nearly ) finished than will be deliverd than in BRazil's case. In particular, we built an international Airport from scratch, substantially refurbished and enlarged 2 others, and upgraded loads of smaller ones. This is VERY IMPORTANT as you know, AIRPORTS are the gateway to the country, the ambassaror if you will, and are the first and last impression! - also, there MUST be the capacity for many landed aircraft on 2nd and 3rd aprons too for the tournament! We also did well against the clock to built the very expensive and engineering intensive Gautrain from the airport to the hotel district, which is doing very well now, and was a great idea!, and Rea Vaya rapid bus transport system in Johannesburg like Caracas developed 10 years ago. Then again, our country is less populated, has the only meaningful concentration of major-playing construction companies on the continent with mega-experience all over ( in Dubai for example ), and a government single minded ( through a strangelhold of descision making in PArliment due to their majority ) on pushing through plans, and this went for all cities baring one ( which was run by the opposition ) - so our cultural/political state is / was differnt to your "chaotic free for all scenario ) - Brazil can do it!! - the staduims will be full, and TV audiences will love it, but there will be the headache of transport issues you pointed out for sure! The two tournament cant be compared, and for sure we had our fare share of issues afterwards, and nay sayers while it was all being built!
NEW AIRPORT - Durban
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1279/4597136657_33fcdf7168.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/craigpitchers/4597136657/)
King Shaka International Airport - Vertorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/craigpitchers/4597136657/) by Craig Pitchers (http://www.flickr.com/people/craigpitchers/), on Flickr
REMODELLED AIRPORT - CAPE TOWN + JOHANNESBURG
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2487/4208046484_f0edee457e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jankritzinger/4208046484/)
Cape Town International (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jankritzinger/4208046484/) by Jan Kritzinger (http://www.flickr.com/people/jankritzinger/), on Flickr
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O.R. tambo airport (http://www.flickr.com/photos/libero2010/4167535866/) by libero2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/libero2010/), on Flickr
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Gautrain (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarkastad/4598402094/) by Jean (tarkastad) (http://www.flickr.com/people/tarkastad/), on Flickr
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Nasrec Bus Station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50989081@N07/4702766449/) by AfricanGoals2010 (http://www.flickr.com/people/50989081@N07/), on Flickr

Axelferis

January 19th, 2012, 11:42 AM

SA 2010 made a great job with airports which was AAA !

I don't expect the same level of quality for Brazil airports.

HMMS

January 19th, 2012, 07:16 PM

That buses are made in Brazil!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nenad_kgdc

January 19th, 2012, 07:31 PM

Brazil is much more powerful economy than SA, and there are still a lot of time till WC begins, so no doubt everything is going to be ready in time.

ruifo

January 20th, 2012, 12:57 AM

http://diariodonordeste.globo.com/noticia.asp?codigo=333635&modulo=970

Diário do Nordeste Online | 14h48m | 19.01.2012

Fortaleza and Brasilia dispute the final draw of the 2014 World Cup

São Paulo was chosen to host the draw for the Confederations Cup, making room for Ceará

http://verdesmares.globo.com/recursos/news/imgs/%7B7E6738EC-AD77-409A-95DB-2B3903FDD7D6%7D_castelao.jpg
FIFA Secretary General praised the facilities and events center speed of construction of the New Castelão

More news that may interest a lot to the city of Fortaleza. At a meeting of the board of the Local Organising Committee (LOC), on Thursday morning in Rio, it was decided that the draw for the Confederations Cup 2013 will be held in Sao Paulo. By definition, the state capital, as well as the capital of Rio, is virtually out of contention for the randomization of the keys of the World Cup.

On Tuesday, the FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke said at a news conference in Castelão Stadium, the city of Fortaleza was the favorite to receive the draw for the 2014 World Cup.

"I know Fortaleza is a candidate to host the draw of the keys. From what we're seeing this equipment (Events Center), the city is a favorite to host the event. Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo and Brasilia, are also candidates, but as the river has received a lot of qualifiers, we believe that another city will be chosen, "said the secretary.

The decision made on Thursday (19), the city of São Paulo should be left out, like Rio de Janeiro, to fight for the draw of the key World Cup. According to Valcke, FIFA intends to hold events in different locations in the country

No stadium

Elected as the stage of the draw, the capital city can not host matches of the Confederations Cup, because the future of Corinthians stadium will be ready only after the tournament, scheduled to run between 15 and 30 June 2013. In the initial phase of construction, the site will receive the opening match of the 2014 World Cup, the other three matches of the first phase, and a comparison of quarter-final and another valid for the semifinals.

The Confederations Cup is the premier competition prior to the FIFA World Cup, and Brasilia, Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte and Fortaleza have been defined as the tournament headquarters that serves as a parameter for the Mundial. Salvador and Recife, however, appear as candidates to host games of the competition in a pre-list released by FIFA.

Commenting on the Confederations Cup at a news conference on the afternoon of Thursday, Valcke revealed that the confirmation of all stadiums that will receive the competition depends on the progress of works the same in the first half of 2012. "We had a good meeting, very normal, in which our technical team updated and confirmed that we have to wait until July in relation to the stadiums," he warned.

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DannyelBrazil

January 20th, 2012, 05:02 AM

Someday, foreigners will understand that the problem in Brazil is not money or will, it's BUREAUCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DannyelBrazil

January 20th, 2012, 05:08 AM

The international airport in São Paulo is operating overcapacity since 2007/2008, and the 3rd terminal is still in paper. The rapid train projected to connect the Airport to the subway won't be made anymore. Thats one example that repeats in other hosts cities.

I just hate Infraero (Brazilian Airport Maintenance Co) more than the trollers here, but it's needed to say that Terminal 3 of Sao Paulo-Guarulhos is already in basic works (like planing terrain) and it's expected to start hard building after march when the Airports might be sent to private administration.

Terminal 4 - Remote (indeed veeeeery remote) will be inaugurated next month and will be operated solely by Gol Airlines (can be an interesting thing ONLY IF nice connections with the main building be provided).

Terminal 5 - Remote will be started just after the inauguration of Terminal 4, and will be placed between 4 and Cargo Terminal...

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No doubts GRU will look very weird with all this remote areas and stuff... But, something (stupid) have been done to solve the overcrowd problem, indeed, no mess happened during season holidays in december - first in many years - which is nice...

DannyelBrazil

January 20th, 2012, 05:11 AM

Rio Intl. (GIG), which is undergoing very slow refurbishment.

It's all Rio International needs: HARD refurbshment and HARD modernization. The airport is HUGE and is mostly idle...
The problem here is to set "beautiful and comfy" environment to passengers...

Again, the problem is Infraero and all the bureaucracy linked to this company... That's why I'm 100% in favour to send Rio International to private administration.

Gutex

January 20th, 2012, 08:14 PM

Aerial pics of the Mineirão stadium in works taken today

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ruifo

January 20th, 2012, 08:29 PM

^^
great shots!

Mares de Morros_XXI

January 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM

SA 2010 made a great job with airports which was AAA !

I don't expect the same level of quality for Brazil airports.

and imo you do right to think this way.

Mares de Morros_XXI

January 21st, 2012, 11:41 AM

ruifo

January 23rd, 2012, 09:53 PM

Fortaleza's Castelão updates:

Edifício da Etapa 3
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Estrutura de concreto das cadeiras do anel inferior e fosso
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Fonte: https://twitter.com/FerruccioPetri

AcesHigh

January 25th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Internacional still has not signed with a construction company for the rebuilding of their stadium. The club president was saying they would wait for the president of Brazil, Dilma Roussef, to come to Porto Alegre, for her to participate in the signining ceremony.

but she is today and tomorrow in Porto Alegre, and yet, the president of Internacional said YESTERDAY that NEXT WEEK they will have a chronogram for the signature of the deal!!!

next week they will decide WHEN to sign the deal! Or not.

AcesHigh

January 25th, 2012, 08:04 PM

all the while, in the same city, the construction of Grêmio Arena is 50% completed and on accelerated pace, set to be innaugurated 2nd december of this year (2012)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6730547335_dcfd5fd595_b.jpg

shahmeer

January 25th, 2012, 08:09 PM

really great update, btw any updates on the stadium in Brasilia??

AcesHigh

January 25th, 2012, 11:45 PM

João Paulo

January 26th, 2012, 02:37 AM

Grêmio Arena
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Aces what will happen to Olimpico stadium after the new stadium inaugurates? Will they demolish it? Will it be used as a training field?

Enzo

January 26th, 2012, 02:46 PM

...

Another thing, several airports are already under construction, such as Manaus, Natal, Campinas, Belo Horizonte, Salvador, Cuiaba, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Curitiba, Fortaleza, etc.

Many other works are also now in progress, so, I repeat, do not stress !!!!!!!!ok!!!!!!!!!!:)

Good news, Terminal 4 is almost ready in Sao Paulo...:)

Isn't it an amazing building?
Mais uma imagem do TPS4 do forista bodylover12 do Contatoradar
http://forum.contatoradar.com.br/index.php/topic/84039-gru-tmdgtuqtrkallanlx-e-mais-alguns-registros/

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Not! It is just a warehouse that will be used as a terminal...:nuts:

AcesHigh

January 26th, 2012, 02:48 PM

Aces what will happen to Olimpico stadium after the new stadium inaugurates? Will they demolish it? Will it be used as a training field?

it will be demolished and OAS will build a mall and commercial and residential towers in its place.

PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 03:54 PM

Aces what will happen to Olimpico stadium after the new stadium inaugurates? Will they demolish it? Will it be used as a training field?

Hello,

I am Brazilian and I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (one of the venues of World Cup 2014)
This stadium is the Guild Arena Guild building is to be used by professional team.
The Olympic stadium will be used in shows, events, and youth teams as juniors...

PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 04:04 PM

Guys I live in Belo Horizonte (MG, Brazil)
And here I will post some pictures of the stadiums being built here.

Latest photos of Mineirão:

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145500629016u.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145501171858u.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145501259063a.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145502504627u.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145502720580a.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145505160295e.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145504683628u.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145505198780e.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145505731463e.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145506688470o.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145507957523e.jpg

http://imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145508586759e.jpg

PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 04:11 PM

Independence Arena, venue for the training of teams to come to BH and host of clubs from here to the reform of the legume!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eVrHjAcKKEI/TyCfyXkgLgI/AAAAAAAAFkw/Hc27xrppp6A/s400/Indis%2BPitimba.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B8lnvqHlVpM/Txre37p_D6I/AAAAAAAAFkA/l__OCHPjIAM/s400/indepis%2Bjaneiro.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J9vu0WLRbB4/Tu_X61HeH2I/AAAAAAAAFiE/YZnRK0lNvjo/s400/indepen%2Bgeral.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5Vk5G6xE4xA/Tu_XwQLKYHI/AAAAAAAAFh4/nP9zy38M5OQ/s400/indepen%2Bpiso.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NWasT06TJcM/Tu_Xh_ui-iI/AAAAAAAAFhs/WXOStkBTCkM/s400/indepen%2Bcadeiras.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eiRskqmzlb0/Ttg5VRUk3II/AAAAAAAAFZM/fbH-BLz8hac/s400/inde%2Bgrama%2Bverde.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ujuFTCiS2J0/Ttg5Gw7qGJI/AAAAAAAAFY0/LFCQXrLvagM/s400/inde%2Bgrama%2Bverdinha.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_xdQ0-SNDMk/TtJPcBBrWEI/AAAAAAAAFYE/W_bx1behrF8/s400/klz1322278118w.jpg

VÍDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBWO3YoGAM&feature=player_embedded

HMMS

January 26th, 2012, 04:48 PM

Good news, Terminal 4 is almost ready in Sao Paulo...:)

Isn't it an amazing building?

Not! It is just a warehouse that will be used as a terminal...:nuts:

As I said before, if you think that nothing will be good here for the 2014 World Cup, do not come to Brazil, just keep talking and talking and talking ...........:ohno:

It would be a favor, we don't need boring people during the World Cup !!!:bash:

Enzo

January 26th, 2012, 05:07 PM

As I said before, if you think that nothing will be good here for the 2014 World Cup, do not come to Brazil, just keep talking and talking and talking ...........:ohno:

It would be a favor, we don't need boring people during the World Cup !!!:bash:

I definitely don't need your invitation, approval or disapproval for that matter, it is totally irrelevant, I can go whenever I feel like... However, it would be very nice of Infraero and its employees, if they offered us better services and airports for our arrivals and departures...
:)

AcesHigh

January 26th, 2012, 06:33 PM

Hello,

I am Brazilian and I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais (one of the venues of World Cup 2014)
This stadium is the Guild Arena Guild building is to be used by professional team.
The Olympic stadium will be used in shows, events, and youth teams as juniors...

I see you used Google Translate (because it translated Grêmio as "guild"). But it doesnt matter. Your info is WRONG anyways.

The Estádio Olímpico Monumental, built in 1953, will be DEMOLISHED.

AcesHigh

January 26th, 2012, 07:26 PM

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PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 08:12 PM

I see you used Google Translate (because it translated Grêmio as "guild"). But it doesnt matter. Your info is WRONG anyways.

The Estádio Olímpico Monumental, built in 1953, will be DEMOLISHED.

Being polite, which was not you.

Yes google translate. What is the problem? none like you said! And I think I was in Brazil and watching football here know more than one person is out knowing nothing and giving suggestions.
The Olympic stadium will be demolished actually, I cheated aviation since before the start of construction of the Arena Grêmio former president of the club said the stadium would be used by the base of the club.

More then came the idea of creating a mall, or make on-site apartments, and demolishing the stadium. Until now the fans of the Grêmio who do not know what will happen on site, then it will try to know more than someone who is here in Brazil, seeing and doing the 2014 World Cup!

PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 08:15 PM

As I said before, if you think that nothing will be good here for the 2014 World Cup, do not come to Brazil, just keep talking and talking and talking ...........:ohno:

It would be a favor, we don't need boring people during the World Cup !!!:bash:

Esses Gringos tão enchendo o saco, acham que são melhores que o Brasil, se quiser vir vem se não quiser fica aí na porra dos seus países tomando gelo na cara!

Que caralho de povo chato. Ainda acham que sabem de tudo...

Enzo

January 26th, 2012, 08:29 PM

Esses Gringos tão enchendo o saco, acham que são melhores que o Brasil, se quiser vir vem se não quiser fica aí na porra dos seus países tomando gelo na cara!

Que caralho de povo chato. Ainda acham que sabem de tudo...

No need to get angry with the gringos, it is totally uncalled for... So many of them will be celebrating the party/Cup with the brazilians, the warmest people of all.:banana::cheers:

By the way, so sorry to disappoint you, but... We don't get any icy rain falling in our faces at that time of the year, July is summer in the northern hemisphere ... :)

PedroCarvalho13

January 26th, 2012, 09:38 PM

No need to get angry with the gringos, it is totally uncalled for... So many of them will be celebrating the party/Cup with the brazilians, the warmest people of all.:banana::cheers:

By the way, so sorry to disappoint you, but... We don't get any icy rain falling in our faces at that time of the year, July is summer in the northern hemisphere ... :)

Pô cara, nada contra você, que já notei que é um dos mais bacanas daqui :):)
Mais é que tem gente que é muito chata e arrogante, tem que ser perfeito os 364 dias do ano.

Espero que a copa aqui seja bastante legal, que os brasileiros possam se interagir com os gringos, que os gringos se interajam com os brasileiros, etc.

O povo aqui do Brasil é muito acolhedor, e se vier gringo chato e fazendo gracinha achando que são os melhores dos melhores os brasileiros não irão gostar!
Ninguém gosta de ser feito de bobo por aqui.

E sobre a neve, eu avia só citado o que acontece aí, em qualquer época do ano, não quis dizer que na copa de 2014 em julho aqui no Brasil, estará nevando em seu país.

Do mais o Brasil está se preparando e acho que bem, obras estão sendo feitas, hotéis mais do que nunca, a frota de ônibus não para de crescer e estão testando várias e várias coisas para dar uma qualidade a quem vai vir prestigiar a copa e as belezas do nosso país.

HMMS

January 27th, 2012, 01:15 AM

I definitely don't need your invitation, approval or disapproval for that matter, it is totally irrelevant, I can go whenever I feel like... However, it would be very nice of Infraero and its employees, if they offered us better services and airports for our arrivals and departures...
:)

:blahblah:

Really ................. NOT come to Brazil in 2014 ............

In 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016 ................

You're irrelevant like tourist for us!!!!!!!

Felipe \o/

January 27th, 2012, 01:22 AM

......
http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/07352851510c2e7f6e36cba877dd8597.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/b84edabe20e6371f3f3c38c6a19fa5a9.JPG

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http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/ae890e916c660074f801c4d6feda0f6c.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/94b7e3268776177e2de64489a7b8d311.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/b1a7f6363d9e52cda3597fa7eef00923.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/1845be4ea09be1cbc669d0336c983fa1.JPG

Fonte: http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/imagens.php

fabbio_123

January 27th, 2012, 01:32 AM

The discussions on this thread are 99% among Brazilians and still written in English. This is quite ridiculous. IMO, the reason for that is that the endless discussion about infrastructure has made this thread so boring that no foreign would be intested in reading and trying to understand all that's been said in the last several pages. Why don't we Brazilians focus on posting real stuff that is relevant to the international community and leave political discussions and speculation for our own forums?

JPBrazil

January 27th, 2012, 01:52 AM

The discussions on this thread are 99% among Brazilians and still written in English.[...]

Mostly babel-fish-level English by the way.

MS20

January 27th, 2012, 04:34 AM

DannyelBrazil

January 27th, 2012, 05:20 AM

Why don't we Brazilians focus on posting real stuff that is relevant to the international community and leave political discussions and speculation for our own forums?

Why don't the gringos and Brazilians who live abroad does not join us in this kind of discussions?

João Paulo

January 27th, 2012, 11:13 PM

it will be demolished and OAS will build a mall and commercial and residential towers in its place.

^^ Thanks for the information. I heard the capacity will be 60.500 for an all seater stadium correct?

AcesHigh

January 27th, 2012, 11:26 PM

^^ Thanks for the information. I heard the capacity will be 60.500 for an all seater stadium correct?

no, thats actually incorrect.

the all seater format will have capacity for 56 thousand people. But the north section of the stadium, lower ring, can have its seats removed for non official FIFA matches, increasing capacity to 60 thousand in a standing terraces area and with space for the famous avalanche.

12_Stadium_Designer

January 29th, 2012, 09:13 PM

My client is interested in building these 12 stadiums in 3-D, using Maya, 3-d Max, unity ( or others) Of the 12; Maracana, Arena Corinthians, Mineirao,Arena Fonta Nova, Beira-Rio, Arena da Baixada, Estadio Mane Garrincha, Arena Perambuco, Castelao Stadium, Estadio das Dunas,Arena Pantenal, Arena Amazonia, the Maracana is being completed now, but requires further work, the others have not yet begin. So if you can create a single person, walk-thru, 3-d environment, and want a good paying position, please let me know.

Bezzi

January 30th, 2012, 02:37 PM

Maracana:

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/620x349/2012/01/28/obras_maracana3_div_95.jpg

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/620x349/2012/01/28/obras_maracana5_div_95.jpg

Source: globoesporte.com

Bezzi

January 30th, 2012, 03:59 PM

More pictures:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/412/nm01.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6417/nm02.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2274/nm03m.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4270/nm04.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3847/nm05.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6039/nm06.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4893/nm07.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1672/nm08.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8382/nm09.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2997/nm10h.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3236/nm11v.jpg

Source: http://www.odebrechtnacopa.com.br/maracana

Bezzi

January 30th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Works in Curitiba:

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Cobertura-e-cadeiras.jpg

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Hist%C3%B3rico3.jpg

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/26-01-12-4.jpg

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/26-01-12-01.jpg

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Domingo.jpg

http://www.arenacap.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/27-01-12-1.jpg

Source: www.arenacap.com.br

DannyelBrazil

January 31st, 2012, 03:34 AM

New roof in Curitiba?

AcesHigh

January 31st, 2012, 03:49 AM

12_Stadium_Designer

January 31st, 2012, 05:18 AM

you mean a FIRST PERSON, not "single person".
Tnx AcesHigh.

My client is interested in building these 12 stadiums in 3-D, using Maya, 3-d Max, unity ( or others) Of the 12; Maracana, Arena Corinthians, Mineirao,Arena Fonta Nova, Beira-Rio, Arena da Baixada, Estadio Mane Garrincha, Arena Perambuco, Castelao Stadium, Estadio das Dunas,Arena Pantenal, Arena Amazonia, the Maracana is being completed now, but requires further work, the others have not yet begin. So if you can create a FIRST PERSON, single view-point, walk-thru, 3-d environment, and want a good paying position, please let me know.

Bezzi

January 31st, 2012, 06:54 PM

New roof in Curitiba?

Yes. The project was modified and now all the seats will be replaced, as well as the existing roof to keep everything the same standard. I feared that the stadium could be expanded without the new roof, as this is not a requirement of FIFA, but now even a retractable roof is being speculated. :)

João Paulo

February 1st, 2012, 02:17 AM

no, thats actually incorrect.

the all seater format will have capacity for 56 thousand people. But the north section of the stadium, lower ring, can have its seats removed for non official FIFA matches, increasing capacity to 60 thousand in a standing terraces area and with space for the famous avalanche.

^^ Thanks Aces.

AcesHigh

February 1st, 2012, 02:43 AM

^^ Thanks Aces.

you are welcome.

reviewing the info (to erase any doubt)

all seater format: 56 thousand
with seats removed at the Geral Area (1st and 2nd ring of north section) for terraces: 60 thousand.

corredor06

February 1st, 2012, 10:30 PM

I am positive Brazil will host a great world cup.:cheers:

Hut_17

February 1st, 2012, 11:24 PM

I love the stadium in Brasilia :banana:

João Paulo

February 2nd, 2012, 04:17 AM

you are welcome.

reviewing the info (to erase any doubt)

all seater format: 56 thousand
with seats removed at the Geral Area (1st and 2nd ring of north section) for terraces: 60 thousand.

^^ In my opinion it will be the best stadium in Brazil, it is a pitty it will not be used for the World Cup in Brazil. Cheers!!

DannyelBrazil

February 2nd, 2012, 06:52 AM

Check the National Stadium of Brasilia. It'll be a masterpiece!

Marsupalami

February 2nd, 2012, 07:18 AM

Brazil is much more powerful economy than SA, and there are still a lot of time till WC begins, so no doubt everything is going to be ready in time.

More powerful yes, but more disorganised, Corruption is equal though, except we just have the one party lol

GEwinnen

February 2nd, 2012, 10:21 AM

ruifo

February 2nd, 2012, 12:11 PM

ruifo

February 2nd, 2012, 12:46 PM

X-Ray of the venues' construction for the FIFA 2014World Cup in Brazil

As of 31/Jan/2012

Percentage of the planned works already completed:
56,0% - Castelão / Fortaleza
51,0% - Fonte Nova / Salvador
50,0% - Estádio Nacional / Brasília
45,0% - Mineirão / Belo Horizonte
38,0% - Arena Pantanal / Cuiabá
33,0% - Arena da Amazônia / Manaus
32,0% - Arena Pernambuco / Recife
32,0% - Maracanã / Rio de Janeiro
28,0% - Beira-Rio / Porto Alegre
25,0% - Arena de São Paulo / São Paulo
18,5% - Arena das Dunas / Natal

Percentage relative to the arena, and not relative to the works/constructions:
60,0% - Arena da Baixada / Curitiba

Source:
http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/copa-do-mundo/noticia/2012/02/castelao-nacional-de-brasilia-e-arena-fonte-nova-ultrapassam-50-da-obra.html

GEwinnen

February 2nd, 2012, 01:09 PM

^^
I actually like (a lot) the concrete roof of the Mineirão in BH. It's different, I know, but it represents a unique Brazilian style of architeture. If you get rid of this roof, the original project would lose its reason and its style.

Mineirão in BH reminds me to this stadium of the 1974 (!!!) WC. (Btw, this stadium has been demolished in 2002)

http://sammlung.sportmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/10-01.jpg

Brutalism movement died 20 years ago.

AcesHigh

February 2nd, 2012, 02:22 PM

Mineirão in BH reminds me to this stadium of the 1974 (!!!) WC. (Btw, this stadium has been demolished in 2002)

http://sammlung.sportmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/10-01.jpg

Brutalism movement died 20 years ago.

Mineirão was built in 1964.

JPBrazil

February 2nd, 2012, 06:22 PM

http://1.2.3.9/bmi/imgsapp.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/foto_126510467054/2012/01/20/1914/20120120145508586759e.jpg

No offence, but you should get rid of the ugly brutalist style roof in BH.
And what about a cladding, the pure concrete seems to be rather brutalist too.

Btw, good progress in Brazil for the WC constructions (=ordem e progresso:-))

Cladding... really?! I hope you're kidding.

Mineirão in BH reminds me to this stadium of the 1974 (!!!) WC. (Btw, this stadium has been demolished in 2002)

http://sammlung.sportmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/10-01.jpg

Brutalism movement died 20 years ago.

Gothic architecture died centuries ago, so why not demolishing Köln cathedral and build a glass tower to replace it?

GEwinnen

February 2nd, 2012, 08:12 PM

Gothic architecture died centuries ago, so why not demolishing Köln cathedral and build a glass tower to replace it?

:master: You got me:lol:
But it's not fair to compare gothic architecture of 12th century with 20th century brutalism:lol:

Axelferis

February 2nd, 2012, 09:05 PM

Please read this interesting article (in french but use a translator)

It relates how FIFA make pressure on Brazil above the laws that regulates the auriverde nation! :uh:

It explains:

-all the threats of FIFA towards brazilians authorities are just excuses to oblige Brazil states & governments to accept their exigences
For examples when you can read in a newspaper that "brazil not ready in terms of infrastructure... :blahblah: " it's just beacause brazil refuses to vote some laws concerning prohibition of alcohol.

-Another example concerns the seats markets for stadiums:
l’Arena da Baixada has chosen the firm that will provide those seats. FIFA refused this company to enable the european firm with which they work on each major tournament to provide them and excluding brazilians companies which are able to win the contract.
The report points that it is due to corruption.FIFA aim is not to make money but the people who work there want the "cake" and are encouraged by lobby to have the markets and be paid "under the table"

-None projects could be launched in Brazil 2014 WC without the approbation of Carlos de La Corte( general architect for FIFA)

-Dilma Rousseff refuses to modify the old person status" which enables people of 60+ to have a half price tickets for all cultural and sports events in the territory

The same for the half price ticket status for students or prohibition of alcohol. Fifa want to jump above those laws to satisfy their partners.

Each time now you hear: "Brazil is not ready" it's just because Dilma & her politics refuse to bow to Fifa wishes.

Definitively a corrupted organization :ohno:

the article:

http://www.courrierinternational.com/article/2011/10/27/la-fifa-taclee-par-dilma-rousseff

iamawesomezero

February 3rd, 2012, 06:52 AM

Look forward to ithttp://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4

netinhogga

February 3rd, 2012, 02:03 PM

http://www.copa2014.gov.br/sites/default/files/publicas/confederadores300_0.jpg

The next FIFA Confederations Cup now has an official emblem, which features a native Brazilian bird species: the Rufous-bellied Thrush

Given that we are still in early 2012, it is tempting to think there is a long way to go before the 32 participating teams kick off their bids for glory at the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil. Yet fans in the Host Nation need wait less than a year and a half to savour a similarly feverish atmosphere in that most tantalising of FIFA World Cup appetisers: the FIFA Confederations Cup.

As part of the countdown process, the next FIFA Confederations Cup now has an official emblem, which features a native Brazilian bird species: the Rufous-bellied Thrush.

On 15 June 2013, the Estadio Nacional in Brasilia will host the opening match of the next ‘Festival of Champions’, with the competition to feature the continental title winners from each of the world’s six confederations, in addition to reigning world champions Spain and hosts Brazil. The eight participating nations will battle it out to reach 30 June’s final in the Maracanã in Rio de Janeiro, while the cities of Belo Horizonte and Fortaleza are also scheduled to welcome games.

Recife and Salvador, for their part, are still awaiting final approval from FIFA and the Brazil 2014 Local Organising Committee (LOC). The final announcement of the tournament’s match schedule and the confirmed host cities will come in June 2012.

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A number of said champions have already secured their places alongside Spain and Brazil, with Mexico, Japan and Uruguay winning the CONCACAF Gold Cup, AFC Asian Cup and Copa America respectively in 2011. The remaining participants will be the victors of next year's CAF Africa Cup of Nations, the 2012 OFC Nations Cup and the UEFA EURO 2012. The eight competing teams will be divided into two groups of four at the competition’s final draw, which will be held on 1 December in Sao Paulo.

“I think that in Brazil [in 2013] we’ll have the strongest set of national sides since the tournament began,” said Ronaldo. “It will be a great opportunity for Brazilian fans to watch top-level football in new stadiums, as well as to give the world a little taste of our hospitality.”

Size on the rise
Ever since the inaugural edition in 1992 in Saudi Arabia, when it was still known as the King Fahd Cup, the FIFA Confederations Cup proved both popular with supporters as well as a valuable opportunity for major national sides to clash at an official tournament. The competition has been held on a four-yearly basis, the year before each FIFA World Cup and in the same host country, since Korea/Japan 2001. Indeed, the concept has been so successful that the 16 matches played at South Africa 2009 were transmitted live to 149 territories, with audience figures totalling 550 million people.

What's more, the FIFA Confederations Cup holds a special place in the hearts of Brazilian football fans thanks to the fine pedigree of A Seleção – winners of three of the eight editions to date, including the last two.

“It’s an extremely important competition, it’s like a preview for the FIFA World Cup,” said Ronaldinho, who helped inspire Brazil to victory in Germany in 2005, the year he was also voted FIFA World Player for the second time. “The next edition will have a special flavour since it’s in Brazil. For that reason I’m very motivated, and I’m hoping to take part in this competition in 2013."

ruifo

February 4th, 2012, 12:10 AM

More about the works in Fortaleza:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407916_365670916778869_100000078926669_1594046_1063843934_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416789_365670593445568_100000078926669_1594045_1598913493_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428612_365670236778937_100000078926669_1594044_2007143576_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431518_365660800113214_100000078926669_1594015_1056927299_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430203_365667300112564_100000078926669_1594033_1629982579_n.jpg

Neste álbum tem mais fotos: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.365656870113607.105292.100000078926669&type=3

stresss

February 4th, 2012, 03:19 AM

Laurence2011

February 4th, 2012, 08:53 PM

was at the maracana a few weeks ago, however i was taking photos on film and i probably wont be able to get it developed for a while so i'll just say this, its going to be fantastic. i think despite the decreased gradient of the bowl, the renovation will be making the most of the existing stadium framework (that is of course without completely redoing the stadium). can't wait to go back and check it out in 2014

I think it'll be interesting to see what effect the transition of the stadium from two tiers into a one-tiered bowl will be. Good that they're still using a lot of the old stadium, but it probably will be fairly unreconisable to its previous self.

DannyelBrazil

February 5th, 2012, 04:26 PM

More powerful yes, but more disorganised, Corruption is equal though, except we just have the one party lol

Country x Country here? Serious?

iamawesomezero

February 5th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Look forward to it!http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4

JPBrazil

February 5th, 2012, 05:52 PM

:master: You got me:lol:
But it's not fair to compare gothic architecture of 12th century with 20th century brutalism:lol:

That's arguable.

Modernist movement in Brazil was one of the most remarkable of the world.

Mineirão and Mineirinho stadium are part of the architectonic complex of Pampulha, with some of the most important works of Oscar Niemeyer in Brazil.

http://turismonapampulha.hd1.com.br/fotos/1site%20(16).jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GLw_4XNuXVE/TWZXn2cyLgI/AAAAAAAAC_M/-YFOxI9SJD4/s1600/blg-pd-pl-arqeng-igreja-da-pampulha-niemeyer.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4113/5193750730_f54a114a15_z.jpg

Moss@d

February 5th, 2012, 08:13 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Fifa_09_logo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/News-brazil2008logo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Fifa_confederations_cup_2013_logo.png

I sense a lack of originality and creativity... but then again, isn't FIFA in Switzerland? :lol:

rsol2000

February 6th, 2012, 11:04 PM

Maracanã
Foto do oglobo hoje:

http://oglobo.globo.com/in/3892387-e2e-aa3/FT940B/2012020610279.jpg-G2TEKBSO.1.jpg
Link: http://oglobo.globo.com/in/3892387-e2e-aa3/FT940B/2012020610279.jpg-G2TEKBSO.1.jpg

Gutex

February 7th, 2012, 09:41 PM

That's arguable.

Modernist movement in Brazil was one of the most remarkable of the world.

Mineirão and Mineirinho stadium are part of the architectonic complex of Pampulha, with some of the most important works of Oscar Niemeyer in Brazil.

http://turismonapampulha.hd1.com.br/fotos/1site%20(16).jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GLw_4XNuXVE/TWZXn2cyLgI/AAAAAAAAC_M/-YFOxI9SJD4/s1600/blg-pd-pl-arqeng-igreja-da-pampulha-niemeyer.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4113/5193750730_f54a114a15_z.jpg

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/b1a7f6363d9e52cda3597fa7eef00923.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/1845be4ea09be1cbc669d0336c983fa1.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/imagens.php

GilSP

February 12th, 2012, 04:49 PM

Estádio Nacional de Brasília:

Esse sim vai ser padrão FIFA 100%

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l576/Gqspbr/_sites_400_419_00020492.jpg

Fonte: http://www.agenciabrasilia.df.gov.br/042/04299003.asp?ttCD_CHAVE=164168

GilSP

February 12th, 2012, 04:51 PM

Arena da Amazônia:

Que coisa mais linda vai ficar a Arena da Amazônia, não me canso de falar isso.

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l576/Gqspbr/film_021.jpg

Fonte: http://arenadaamazonia.com.br/o-projeto/a-arena/

MoreOrLess

February 13th, 2012, 06:33 AM

:master: You got me:lol:
But it's not fair to compare gothic architecture of 12th century with 20th century brutalism:lol:

Stadiums are for me one of the most sucessful aspects of brutalism, the German stadium you posted is pretty bland but the Mineirao looks pretty good(espeically cleaned up) and the San Siro is one of my favour looking stadiums in the world.

The fact that form has to follow function much more closely with stadiums compaired to most buildings has I'd say made it much harder for post modernist design to be used sucessfully on them.

alexandru.mircea

February 13th, 2012, 12:30 PM

Parc des Princes is the best looking brutalist stadium IMO

http://www.lemeilleurdupsg.com/images/news/image/Parc_des_Princes/parc.jpg

(pic source (http://www.lemeilleurdupsg.com/article-19392-le-parc-des-princes-le-berceau-du-psg.html))

I think this style can be referenced by post-modern architecture, and my impression is that the new Polish National Stadium is a glass & light version of brutalism:

http://www.poland2012.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/warsaw_stadium1.jpg

(pic source (http://www.poland2012.net/the-project-of-the-national-stadium-has-been-presented/))

(though now that I look at this particular pic it reminds me a lot of a traditional wattle:

http://s2.youmago.ro/static/g/4/4/417844/699911_3.jpg

(pic source (http://www.youmago.ro/object/view/set-2-cosuri-impletite-din-bambus/412003))

http://www.techsoft.ro/images/gardimpletit.jpg

(pic source (http://www.techsoft.ro/Gard.html))

AcesHigh

February 13th, 2012, 03:44 PM

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-M6cAWKOzwzg/Tzj3lnJi_OI/AAAAAAAABW4/w9oa8dn70XA/s2000/426182_229330800494609_100002530713196_493917_1534962782_n.jpg
cred: Juliano Kracker

Laurence2011

February 13th, 2012, 03:48 PM

^^ Why are you posting pictures of the Grêmio arena on this thread? I thought it wasn't hosting?

ruifo

February 13th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Gremio Arena is not a hosting arena, but the forum member AcesHigh (a clear Grêmio FC supporter) dreams about it, once Baira Rio Stadium is facing troubles in hiring the constructor in the city of Porto Alegre.

AcesHigh

February 13th, 2012, 04:36 PM

^^ Why are you posting pictures of the Grêmio arena on this thread? I thought it wasn't hosting?

it has chances of hosting. Beira Rio stadium has stoped the works since april 2011, and they dont even have closed a deal with a construction company, nor have any idea when they will be able to do it.

the only reason Porto Alegre still hasnt switched the stadiums is because of politics. The city already lost the Confederations Cup because of it.

Porto Alegre politicians made a bad choice when picking Beira Rio stadium for the World Cup, even when the Gremio Arena project was already starting to get out of paper (and Beira Rio project hadnt even started).

But they are making even worse choices, when they insist on keeping the Beira Rio stadium, just to avoid losing votes from Internacional supporters.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6858138061_1498b3e101_b.jpg

vs

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2011/10/25/obras_beira-rio_futurapress_62.jpg

http://aovivo.ducker.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Mato-no-Beira-Rio.jpg

(its the vegetation growing around the few works already done in the Beira Rio stadium. Basically, they wanted to show FIFA they were doing something last year, so they demolished 1/4 of the lower terraces and started building new stands. But after they completed about 1/10th of the structure of the new stands, in the 1/4 of the lower ring, they ran out of money and stoped the works)

Laurence2011

February 13th, 2012, 06:01 PM

okay... where do you think we will be in say 6 months time? in terms of porto alegre's host stadium... beira rio or gremio arena?

AcesHigh

February 13th, 2012, 06:31 PM

okay... where do you think we will be in say 6 months time? in terms of porto alegre's host stadium... beira rio or gremio arena?

I think either Porto Alegre will have changed to Grêmio Arena, or the city will be eliminated from the World Cup 2014, even though its the 3rd most important center of brazilian football (after São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro).

IF Porto Alegre keeps up with Inter project, and its not eliminated in 6 months, I think it will be eliminated later, because there is no time to finish the project.

There is ANOTHER option yet: Internacional will beg for public money to accelerate their project. And will get it.

which is HIGHLY unethical to say the least, considering there will be another stadium, World Cup ready, in the same city, with higher public capacity, witout a cent of public money...

AcesHigh

February 13th, 2012, 06:37 PM

okay... where do you think we will be in say 6 months time? in terms of porto alegre's host stadium... beira rio or gremio arena?

btw, since you are from Germany... here is a flyer announcing the first GreNal (Gremio vs Internacional), the Porto Alegre derby, in 1909.

check out the names of the Grêmio players, as well as referee (Juiz Geral), linesman (Juizes de Linha) and Goal Referees (Juizes de Goal), not mentioning the Comissions...
http://www.gremio.net/upload/page/Image/Programa%20I%20Grenal.jpg

Laurence2011

February 13th, 2012, 07:25 PM

btw, since you are from Germany... here is a flyer announcing the first GreNal (Gremio vs Internacional), the Porto Alegre derby, in 1909.

check out the names of the Grêmio players, as well as referee (Juiz Geral), linesman (Juizes de Linha) and Goal Referees (Juizes de Goal), not mentioning the Comissions...

I am actually from England, I can speak German and have a lot of friends there and spend a lot of time in Germany.. I'm planning on moving out there in maybe a few years or so... so I'm basically German! :lol:

How comes there's so many German names in that squad? seems kinda strange that

AcesHigh

February 13th, 2012, 07:32 PM

How comes there's so many German names in that squad? seems kinda strange that

not strange at all. Check the name of the city I live, just 40km from Porto Alegre.

ever heard of Gisele Bündchen, the supermodel? Also from my state.

Many people in Europe, when think of germans in Brazil, think of escaped Nazis.

Well... if nazis escaped to Brazil and Argentina, they did not chose these places out of nothing. They chose these places because there were TONS of german descendants here, german settled towns and cities. It was easier to mix with the population than in Africa or China for example!

German immigration to Brazil started in 1824 and was strong until around 1880... 60 years before World War 2 began. (the first brazilian Emperor was married to an Austrian Princess, daughter to the Holy Roman Emperor. With her help they kick started german immigration to southern Brazil, which was quite empty and disputed in that time. Colonizing the lands would secure them for the brazilian crown.

Its interesting, that while in southeast Brazil (São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro), football was brought by british (Charles Miller, a scott), in the south, it was brought by germans. The first football club in Brazil was founded by Charles Miller in 1890 if I am not mistaken. But the oldest football club STILL in existance in Brazil was founded by german: Sport Club Rio Grande.

But it seems the germans were always more interested in sports than the portuguese. Porto Alegre had sport clubs already in 1860s (like Gesellschaft Leopoldina, and Deutscher Turnverein). In São Paulo, the first sport club was only founded in the 1890s!

adonys

February 14th, 2012, 12:18 PM

Manaus arena will be a very nice stadium. But I saw that it will host only four matches in groups.

AcesHigh

February 14th, 2012, 01:43 PM

Manaus arena will be a very nice stadium. But I saw that it will host only four matches in groups.

too many expensive stadiums getting too little games, and becoming white elephants afterwards.

Manaus, Brasilia and Cuiabá dont have any decent sized football club, nor their small clubs have enough fans to justify the stadiums.

GEwinnen

February 14th, 2012, 02:15 PM

Stadiums are for me one of the most sucessful aspects of brutalism, the German stadium you posted is pretty bland but the Mineirao looks pretty good(espeically cleaned up) and the San Siro is one of my favour looking stadiums in the world.

The Rheinstadion wasn't less or more bland than Mineiro, the roof structure of Rheinstadion was even more spectacular:

http://www.keifzicke.de/Duesseldorf/Foto_Dssd_Rheinstadion.jpg
http://www.barkah.org/Travelogues/Brazil/Belo/mineirao_medium.jpg

Anyway, I like Mineiaro in the shape of 2014 with a cleaned up facade and the extended transparent roof.

GEwinnen

February 14th, 2012, 02:29 PM

not strange at all. Check the name of the city I live, just 40km from Porto Alegre.

ever heard of Gisele Bündchen, the supermodel? Also from my state.

Many people in Europe, when think of germans in Brazil, think of escaped Nazis.

Well... if nazis escaped to Brazil and Argentina, they did not chose these places out of nothing. They chose these places because there were TONS of german descendants here, german settled towns and cities. It was easier to mix with the population than in Africa or China for example!

German immigration to Brazil started in 1824 and was strong until around 1880... 60 years before World War 2 began. (the first brazilian Emperor was married to an Austrian Princess, daughter to the Holy Roman Emperor. With her help they kick started german immigration to southern Brazil, which was quite empty and disputed in that time. Colonizing the lands would secure them for the brazilian crown.

Its interesting, that while in southeast Brazil (São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro), football was brought by british (Charles Miller, a scott), in the south, it was brought by germans. The first football club in Brazil was founded by Charles Miller in 1890 if I am not mistaken. But the oldest football club STILL in existance in Brazil was founded by german: Sport Club Rio Grande.

But it seems the germans were always more interested in sports than the portuguese. Porto Alegre had sport clubs already in 1860s (like Gesellschaft Leopoldina, and Deutscher Turnverein). In São Paulo, the first sport club was only founded in the 1890s!

Nuovo Hamburgo:)

(google for "ratline") on the infamous "ratline" some 500 -more or less- iomportant Nazis escaped from Germany to South America at the end of the war.

AcesHigh

February 14th, 2012, 06:13 PM

Nuovo Hamburgo:)

(google for "ratline") on the infamous "ratline" some 500 -more or less- iomportant Nazis escaped from Germany to South America at the end of the war.

Novo Hamburgo. Nuevo is spanish. Novo is portuguese. But we also call it as Neu Hamburg sometimes here.

as for the ratline, it is as I said. They escaped to south america because there were many german communities here. Probably even cousins or 2nd degree cousins of many of them.

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Laurence2011

February 14th, 2012, 08:19 PM

wow it's like a little germany in south america, surreal! I remember someone telling me ages ago that some people speak german in south america.. I never really believed them though..

AcesHigh

February 14th, 2012, 09:19 PM

wow it's like a little germany in south america, surreal! I remember someone telling me ages ago that some people speak german in south america.. I never really believed them though..

sometimes you just have to pay more attention. Do you know the current brazilian football team coach? Mano Menezes?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wxsk8GQ61Uc/Tgc69OqbTHI/AAAAAAAAAKA/iElWD7Z2oSs/s1600/Mano-Menezes-USA-v-Brazil-2010_2486118.jpg
real name: Luis Antonio Venker Menezes

and the previous brazilian coach, Dunga?
http://u.goal.com/50700/50706_hp.jpg
real name: Carlos Caetano Bledorn Verri (mix german-italian heritage)

DannyelBrazil

February 15th, 2012, 05:27 AM

too many expensive stadiums getting too little games, and becoming white elephants afterwards.

Manaus, Brasilia and Cuiabá dont have any decent sized football club, nor their small clubs have enough fans to justify the stadiums.

Brasilia is the capital city and it's the 3rd or 4th biggest city in the country, indeed one of the wealthiest ones.
In fact, Brasilia stadium MUST become a multi-purpose arena. The city already receive big international shows and can host some matches around the year from clubs from Rio (very popular in the city) and National team (at least once per year).

Manaus and Cuiaba really worries me.

Moss@d

February 16th, 2012, 02:49 AM

Manaus and Cuiaba really worries me.

This "white elephant" myth was discussed ad nauseum by Brazilian and are no more than that: myths.

Cuiaba has the perfect project, adapted for its demand. It will have temporary stands during the WC that will be removed and fit for Cuiaba size.

Manaus and Natal are of bigger concern. But since they will be managed by private companies, I'm sure no one will 'abandon' such potential.

Carcará

February 16th, 2012, 05:22 PM

^^

But Natal also will reduce the capacity and adapt it to your demand where football also has potential. Manaus has to sign a contract with company that will manage the stadium as quickly as possible because it runs the serious risk of being underutilized same.

The Game Is Up

February 17th, 2012, 12:31 PM

More controversy involving Teixeira: http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-brazil-teixeira

He just keeps stepping on it. Until somebody stops him we don't know when it ends.:ohno:

Ku4t

February 17th, 2012, 03:10 PM

RPFigueiredo

February 17th, 2012, 07:39 PM

What are you talking about? Gothic architeture has nothing to do with this horribles stadiuns. They are more like comunists buildings. Our stadiuns are empty, they are made of pure concrete. There is no art, no inspiration. This is sad, I really do not know how there are people that really like this kind of architeture.

To say the truth, It is not surprising coming from people who think that Oscar Niemeyer was a GREAT architect.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion, however may I remind you that Oscar Niemeyer is considered one of the great names of the International Style. His work is extremely relevant to the 20th century and is key to the development of the current contemporary architecture (especialy regarding the constructive possibilities of reinforced concrete)
If you have no sense of aesthetics to realize how graceful, lyrical and fluid the spaces he created are, please don't try to harass others with your ignorance.

Carcará

February 17th, 2012, 10:19 PM

What are you talking about? Gothic architeture has nothing to do with this horribles stadiuns. They are more like comunists buildings. Our stadiuns are empty, they are made of pure concrete. There is no art, no inspiration. This is sad, I really do not know how there are people that really like this kind of architeture.

To say the truth, It is not surprising coming from people who think that Oscar Niemeyer was a GREAT architect.

And who are you? Oh yes:lol:

Niemeyer may have done some work of questionable taste, but many of his works are totally amazing, wonderful and acclaimed hit of specialty critics worldwide. Even more concerning was the inspiration that one of the things he does more, totally unique. You do not see anything like it anywhere in the world in relation to some of his works in Brazil. Your comment was definitely unhappy. The height of absurdity!

JPBrazil

February 18th, 2012, 12:58 AM

VirDiligo

February 18th, 2012, 02:04 AM

VirDiligo

February 18th, 2012, 02:13 AM

Some of today's most famous architects, such as Zaha Hadid and Rem Koolhaas, consider him a master.

Two of the most overrated architects on the planet kissing another overrated architect's feet. They (and the people who admire them for some twisted reason) deserve each other.

JPBrazil

February 18th, 2012, 02:22 AM

^^

It's OK if you say Zaha is kinda overrated, but Koolhaas? Really?!

Give me a break

RPFigueiredo

February 18th, 2012, 02:39 AM

Two of the most overrated architects on the planet kissing another overrated architect's feet. They (and the people who admire them for some twisted reason) deserve each other.

Niemeyer is overrated?? Well, I guess you don't really know what architecture is really about. I guess you must think Corbusier and Mies van der Rohe are not that special either... :nuts:

funnyhouse88

February 18th, 2012, 03:32 AM

I love football and i love the building!http://www.collegefun4u.com/track.php?u=4

VirDiligo

February 18th, 2012, 08:35 PM

Well, I guess you don't really know what architecture is really about.

Do you?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2121/2108780300_36e7da601d_z.jpg?zz=1

RPFigueiredo

February 18th, 2012, 08:46 PM

Do you?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2121/2108780300_36e7da601d_z.jpg?zz=1

The man graduated in 1934 and you are judging his work by a project he made when the was more than 90 years old. What does that tell you?

http://worldalldetails.com/article_image/rio_de_janeiro_brazil_795759.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5290/5686824025_526841d837_b.jpg

What can you say about his work up to Brasilia?

RPFigueiredo

February 18th, 2012, 08:56 PM

One of his pre-Brasilia masterpieces, unfortunatelly unbuilt. The Tremaine House. Gardens by Burle Marx:

http://s14.postimage.org/enzn4r7dt/Resid_ncia_Burton_Tremaine_croqui_frontal.jpg

http://s14.postimage.org/6wix6738h/Resid_ncia_Burton_Tremaine_maquete_III.png

Had this been built, it would certainly have become one of the classics of 20th century modernism, together with the Farnsworth and Fallingwater houses!

ruifo

February 18th, 2012, 09:01 PM

http://www.supersport.com/football/brazil/news/120218/Teixeira_to_remain_head_of_Brazil_FA

Teixeira to remain head of Brazil FA

http://images.supersport.com/Ricardo-Teixeira-110501-Address-AI-300.jpg
Ricardo Teixeira © Reuters Images

The Brazilian football federation announced Friday that president Ricardo Teixeira will remain in his post, denying widespread reports that he would resign this week.

The federation said in a brief statement on its website that Teixeira will be back to work as scheduled after the Carnival holiday ends next week. He will also remain the president of the 2014 World Cup organising committee.

"President Ricardo Teixeira will resume his scheduled work activities at CBF (Brazilian federation) after Carnival," the one-line statement said.

Rumors of a possible resignation increased Thursday after the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper, Brazil's largest, published a report linking Teixeira to a company being investigated for over-billing an international friendly four years ago.

It was the latest of a series of accusations against Teixeira in his 23-year rule of Brazilian football and the national team.

He has always denied any wrongdoing and has never been convicted.

Sources close to Teixeira, including some members of local federations, had said his resignation was imminent and would likely happen before Carnival began on Friday, according to local media. Reports had said that he would either resign or take a leave of absence.

The pressure on Teixeira increased after the Folha story, and former Brazil star Romario, now a congressman, was among those asking Teixeira to leave his post to keep the controversy from harming Brazilian football and the country's already delayed World Cup preparations.

Folha said the company linked to Teixeira, Ailanto Marketing, is being investigated for over-billing air tickets and hotel stays for a Brazil friendly against Portugal in 2008. The company received nearly $5 million to organise the friendly and police found evidence that a partner made payments to Teixeira four months after the match in Brasilia.

The payments, which could total $350 000, were supposedly part of a contract for renting land owned by Teixeira near Rio de Janeiro. Teixeira said there was nothing illegal in the land contract.

Teixeira took over the Brazilian football federation in an election in 1989, when the organisation was struggling financially. He revamped it completely and saw results on and off the field, with Brazil winning two World Cup under his command, in 1994 and 2002.

With his influence at Fifa, he was instrumental in helping Brazil earn the right to host the World Cup for the first time since the 1950 tournament.

But there was always controversy.

After the 1994 title, Teixeira found himself involved in a dispute with custom authorities after players and team officials allegedly tried to re-enter Brazil without paying proper taxes on gifts and other imported goods bought by them in the United States.

He was twice investigated by Brazil's Congress and recently was accused of taking kickbacks from former Fifa marketing partner ISL in the 1990s.

He was also accused of unethical behavior by the former chairman of England's Football Association, David Triesman, who said during a British parliamentary inquiry that Teixeira and other Fifa executive committee members engaged in improper conduct during bidding for the 2018 World Cup.

Fifa cleared the Brazilian, who said the allegations were made because the English were upset over losing the World Cup bid.

Teixeira seemed to have the support of Fifa president Sepp Blatter and at one point was touted as his possible replacement in football's governing body. But the relationship between the two apparently hasn't been as good recently, especially after Blatter decided to allow the release of the documents that allegedly implicate Teixeira in the ISL case. Fifa eventually postponed publication of the documents citing legal measures.

MoreOrLess

February 22nd, 2012, 05:05 AM

The Rheinstadion wasn't less or more bland than Mineiro, the roof structure of Rheinstadion was even more spectacular:

http://www.keifzicke.de/Duesseldorf/Foto_Dssd_Rheinstadion.jpg
http://www.barkah.org/Travelogues/Brazil/Belo/mineirao_medium.jpg

Anyway, I like Mineiaro in the shape of 2014 with a cleaned up facade and the extended transparent roof.

I wouldnt say I disalike it but besides the roof it lacks the same style as the Mineiro has for me with the more complete outer "wall" and "ribs".

Its a design that will age better than many of the bland modern bowls many people seem so enamoured with today or I suspect some of the more question euroart gimmick poster modernism.

parcdesprinces

February 22nd, 2012, 05:39 AM

The Rheinstadion wasn't less or more bland than Mineiro, the roof structure of Rheinstadion was even more spectacular:

I'm sorry, my dear GErman friend, but you're a bit late on this one ;):

Paris, Parc des Princes & Seoul, Olympic Stadium

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1989/13519487622601409d04oco.jpg http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6223/429743333.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3956/fil167copie.jpg http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2204/69997225.jpg

Paris, Parc des Princes & Belo Horizonte, Mineirão

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4359/6a00d83451bde169e200e54.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3168/273955mineiraoinjpg.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5583/zoomimg200401231610076c.jpg http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2543/cimg0893l.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9697/21125665393b0cbb0c5aojp.jpg http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/493/65315181.jpg

AcesHigh

February 22nd, 2012, 02:49 PM

Mineirão is older than Parc des Princes.

I mean, Parc des Princes as we see it today... the place exists since the 19th century, but the modernist brutalist structure is from 1972, while Mineirão was opened in 1965.

parcdesprinces

February 22nd, 2012, 06:29 PM

Mineirão is older than Parc des Princes.

Yep, I know. I simply wanted to point out the resemblance between the two (and also with the Seoul Olympic stadium). :)

alexandru.mircea

February 22nd, 2012, 06:37 PM

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3168/273955mineiraoinjpg.jpg

What an amazing pic - this is how I'd imagine Mars will look like after we colonize it. :D

AcesHigh

February 22nd, 2012, 08:18 PM

its the typical color of the very fertile soil in São Paulo, northern Paraná, southern Minas Gerais and also some argentinean provinces.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DnxAIzf_q3I/S5PEwb2p1lI/AAAAAAAABUM/NhNbfZDKhLY/s400/Elemento+Terra,+1989+Terra+Roxa,+SP+Delfim+Martins.jpg

Bezzi

February 23rd, 2012, 07:34 PM

Arena da Baixada - Curitiba

http://www.portal2014.org.br/inc/imagem.ashx?img=398/imagens_do_desmonte_da_cobertura_da_arena_da_baixada__fev_2012_-2322012-145646-5.jpg&w=643&h=473&secao=GaleriaFotos&t=wbased

http://www.portal2014.org.br/inc/imagem.ashx?img=398/imagens_do_desmonte_da_cobertura_da_arena_da_baixada__fev_2012_-2322012-145646-1.jpg&w=643&h=473&secao=GaleriaFotos&t=wbased

http://www.portal2014.org.br/inc/imagem.ashx?img=398/imagens_do_desmonte_da_cobertura_da_arena_da_baixada__fev_2012_-2322012-145646-2.jpg&w=643&h=473&secao=GaleriaFotos&t=wbased

http://www.portal2014.org.br/inc/imagem.ashx?img=398/imagens_do_desmonte_da_cobertura_da_arena_da_baixada__fev_2012_-2322012-145646-3.jpg&w=643&h=473&secao=GaleriaFotos&t=wbased

Source: http://www.arenacap.com.br

Ku4t

February 24th, 2012, 03:04 AM

And who are you? Oh yes:lol:

Niemeyer may have done some work of questionable taste, but many of his works are totally amazing, wonderful and acclaimed hit of specialty critics worldwide. Even more concerning was the inspiration that one of the things he does more, totally unique. You do not see anything like it anywhere in the world in relation to some of his works in Brazil. Your comment was definitely unhappy. The height of absurdity!

Nowadays there are people who think that a square of grass in an empty room is art. Do you think that a half ball downwards and a half ball upwards is art?

I am not graduated in architeture, but to talk about it in Brazil I don't find that I need to be. I like to read about history, and I think that I have some knowledge to talk about it.

I am completely against the idea that you have to be graduated to talk about things. Specially in Brazil where you see faculties of philosophy teaching students only to study history and interpret texts, even in USP. Schools of architecture by any chance teach history as they should? Architecture is a very serious business to be handled as well the students understand. They need to respect the history and what we see today are just soulless buildings. Or are completely functional, or are extremely extravagant.

Our architecture was good in imperial time, and when the european imigrants came to colonizate the south-east and the south. Afterwards It became a shame. Nowadays people think that everything new is good, what is totally wrong. We have to preserve the past, and to develop the architeture based in the past. Niemeyer denied our past. I just think that Niemeyer wanted to be the one, and he got what he wanted, but only because what he did is just weard, different, but not beautiful.

"Those who cannot remember the past are convicted to repeat it." Roger Santayana. And I'd complement to say that we have to respect it to grow.

Below there is a documentary made by Roger Scruton, and he talks about beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiajXQUppYY

RPFigueiredo

February 24th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Nowadays there are people who think that a square of grass in an empty room is art. Do you think that a half ball downwards and a half ball upwards is art?

I am not graduated in architeture, but to talk about it in Brazil I don't find that I need to be. I like to read about history, and I think that I have some knowledge to talk about it.

I am completely against the idea that you have to be graduated to talk about things. Specially in Brazil where you see faculties of philosophy teaching students only to study history and interpret texts, even in USP. Schools of architecture by any chance teach history as they should? Architecture is a very serious business to be handled as well the students understand. They need to respect the history and what we see today are just soulless buildings. Or are completely functional, or are extremely extravagant.

Our architecture was good in imperial time, and when the european imigrants came to colonizate the south-east and the south. Afterwards It became a shame. Nowadays people think that everything new is good, what is totally wrong. We have to preserve the past, and to develop the architeture based in the past. Niemeyer denied our past. I just think that Niemeyer wanted to be the one, and he got what he wanted, but only because what he did is just weard, different, but not beautiful.

"Those who cannot remember the past are convicted to repeat it." Roger Santayana. And I'd complement to say that we have to respect it to grow.

Below there is a documentary made by Roger Scruton, and he talks about beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiajXQUppYY

http://www.popsnorkle.com/stetsoninbrazil/images/desc/847771522_6410ba5bff.jpg

Please look carefully the picture above before saying Niemeyer denied the past.

And I completely agree with Roger, especially regarding to Music...beauty is being lost. However, NOT with Nemeyer, NOT with Corbusier, NOT with Mies van der Rohe. The beauty in their work comes from the spaces they create. They are architects, not sculptors. You have to be more sensible and read a bit more about modernist architecture to understand and fully appreciate how beautifully balance is the volumetric composition of the Brazilian Congress, how beautifully classic is the Colonade of the Itamaraty and how timeless is the ordered beauty of the Neue Nationalgalerie in Berlin.

Carcará

February 24th, 2012, 11:28 AM

Ok, back to thread :)

Cubo99

February 24th, 2012, 04:33 PM

ruifo

February 24th, 2012, 04:44 PM

Fortaleza's Castelão updates

“Quarto piso do prédio principal do Castelão”
http://distilleryimage4.instagram.com/c4da89485eed11e19e4a12313813ffc0_7.jpg

“Terceiro piso do prédio principal do Castelão”
http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/a6f8af725eed11e1b9f1123138140926_7.jpg

“Segundo piso do prédio principal do Castelão”
http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/8d14a17e5eed11e19e4a12313813ffc0_7.jpg

“Foto da praça e rampa de acesso das cadeiras superiores”
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/ba024af85eeb11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

“Rampa de acesso as cadeiras inferiores”
http://distilleryimage7.instagram.com/e2884a405eeb11e18bb812313804a181_7.jpg

“Foto da estrutura das cadeiras superiores e inferiores”
http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/49d627d85eee11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg

“Foto da estrutura das cadeiras superiores e inferiores”
http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/33cb28b25eee11e1b9f1123138140926_7.jpg

“Foto da estrutura das cadeiras superiores e inferiores”
http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/0d0accaa5eee11e1abb01231381b65e3_7.jpg

“Construção do quinto nível do prédio principal do Castelão”
http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/e95658ec5eed11e1b9f1123138140926_7.jpg

fonte:@ferrucciopetri

Bezzi

February 24th, 2012, 06:00 PM

wow, what are they doing, I think that they only built-up last south stand...

The red columns create blind spots in the upper sector and will be removed. As they also served to support the roof, it will be removed. They are considering the possibility of a new retractable roof. The seats will be replaced with retractable models, such as Soccer City stadium

Here is one more picture

http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/original/2012/02/24/obras_arenadabaixada2_site_60.jpg
Source: www.arenacap.com.br

Ku4t

February 24th, 2012, 06:02 PM

Castelão is going to be a good stadium. Somebody know what will be the distance between the first part of bleachers and the pitch?

Ku4t

February 24th, 2012, 06:05 PM

Great job in the Arena! I think that everybody is going to gain with it. the Club with higher capacity, the World Cup, and the supporters with a improved stadium.

ruifo

February 24th, 2012, 06:20 PM

Castelão is going to be a good stadium. Somebody know what will be the distance between the first part of bleachers and the pitch?

The distance between the first part of bleachers and the field is of 10 meters. Below a picture taken from the field edge, looking to the bleachers, apllying no zoom.

http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/ee294c5657dd11e1b9f1123138140926_7.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/ferrucciopetri

Gutex

February 24th, 2012, 08:11 PM

Mineirão - Belo Horizonte

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/df246e9935fff6959146e12677889300.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/d3ffcf6ebf437a9697c364b13d0fb668.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/311a3588e0e5663f61d7c4183c2d9f84.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/23dbc6c8da075795da43898ffb34d334.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/316dee720875c09dcea97647c5a7c449.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/57d0ca8cad99a33303ade653aedea839.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/8044422ba8cc2d8698e32224972abc62.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/25b2f987c5d41ab20039872da17b369a.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/c3638c59c961b20092cc276817e47382.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/0e8f74a3682d7997640c35feccb6bffd.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/12bca2e4628b0fc650727266f61895f4.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/6509ecb76732c587acfb39b4c1c68858.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/de59dd9f4275d90b14e50c1c71313d6f.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/51204b0a830b16e35c89351802c8224c.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/66a8080322c0447175973ada49f9414e.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/3f06ad2ada49eca417b22a19340f87ff.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/ff33c3dea34c94cbc21f3e46773ce497.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/f90208c223a5bdf2b9f4ceadecbaa19e.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/e20370be4a10adf162a37c22b991d5b8.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/adm/img/_fotos/imagens/mineirao/7ea47c1ad6b32985809610c60ce86f13.JPG

http://www.novomineirao.mg.gov.br/imagens.php

Eta_carinae

February 25th, 2012, 07:32 PM

The Rheinstadion wasn't less or more bland than Mineiro, the roof structure of Rheinstadion was even more spectacular:

http://www.keifzicke.de/Duesseldorf/Foto_Dssd_Rheinstadion.jpg
http://www.barkah.org/Travelogues/Brazil/Belo/mineirao_medium.jpg

Anyway, I like Mineiaro in the shape of 2014 with a cleaned up facade and the extended transparent roof.

Ohh my god, these are similar to our stadium!!:cheers:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/EstadioRobertoMelendez_-_23_mar_08.JPG

Moss@d

February 26th, 2012, 05:28 AM

^^ Estadio Metropolitano Roberto Meléndez (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Metropolitano_Roberto_Meléndez), Barranquilla, Colômbia.

AcesHigh

February 27th, 2012, 05:26 AM

http://arena.gremio.net/public/upload/timelapse_photos/2012/02/24/16_18icl.jpg

Wey

February 27th, 2012, 07:53 AM

Nowadays there are people who think that a square of grass in an empty room is art. Do you think that a half ball downwards and a half ball upwards is art?

I am not graduated in architeture, but to talk about it in Brazil I don't find that I need to be. I like to read about history, and I think that I have some knowledge to talk about it.

I am completely against the idea that you have to be graduated to talk about things. Specially in Brazil where you see faculties of philosophy teaching students only to study history and interpret texts, even in USP. Schools of architecture by any chance teach history as they should? Architecture is a very serious business to be handled as well the students understand. They need to respect the history and what we see today are just soulless buildings. Or are completely functional, or are extremely extravagant.

Our architecture was good in imperial time, and when the european imigrants came to colonizate the south-east and the south. Afterwards It became a shame. Nowadays people think that everything new is good, what is totally wrong. We have to preserve the past, and to develop the architeture based in the past. Niemeyer denied our past. I just think that Niemeyer wanted to be the one, and he got what he wanted, but only because what he did is just weard, different, but not beautiful.

"Those who cannot remember the past are convicted to repeat it." Roger Santayana. And I'd complement to say that we have to respect it to grow.

Below there is a documentary made by Roger Scruton, and he talks about beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiajXQUppYY

With all due respect:

http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/baloney.gif?w=358&h=364

Please, pick an architecture book, and just read it.

gobrazil

February 27th, 2012, 02:49 PM

37157187

http://vimeo.com/37157187

ruifo

February 27th, 2012, 05:37 PM

Updated seating capacity of the 2014 venue stadiums/arenas according to http://www.terra.com.br/esportes/infograficos/obras-copa-2014/ and/or http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_do_Mundo_FIFA_de_2014 in 27/Feb/2012. Feel free to correct anything that is not right.

76.935 - Estádio Maracanã (Rio de Janeiro, RJ)
71.412 - Estádio Nacional (Brasília, DF)
69.950 - Estádio Mineirão (Belo Horizonte, MG)
67.037 - Estádio Castelão (Fortaleza, CE)
65.807 - Estádio de Itaquera (São Paulo, SP)
56.500 - Arena Fonte Nova (Salvador, BA)
50.287 - Estádio Beira Rio (Porto Alegre, RS)
43.921 - Arena Pernambuco (Recife, PE)
43.710 - Arena Amazônia (Manaus, AM)
42.968 - Arena Pantanal (Cuiabá, MT)
42.001 - Arena das Dunas (Natal, RN)
40.000 - Arena da Baixada (Curitiba, PR)

MoreOrLess

February 27th, 2012, 05:43 PM

ruifo

February 27th, 2012, 05:53 PM

Offical name for the Corithians Arena?

No. Itaquera is the distric/neighborhood where it is located. The oficial name is not yet defined (as far as I know).

AcesHigh

February 27th, 2012, 05:55 PM

Offical name for the Corithians Arena?

there is no official name yet, since they are searching for a partner to sell naming rights.

ruifo

February 27th, 2012, 06:04 PM

Updated:

Updated seating capacity of the 2014 venue stadiums/arenas according to http://www.terra.com.br/esportes/infograficos/obras-copa-2014/ and/or http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_do_Mundo_FIFA_de_2014 and/or http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_municípios_do_Brasil_acima_de_cem_mil_habitantes and/or http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lista_de_regi%C3%B5es_metropolitanas_do_Brasil_por_popula%C3%A7%C3%A3o in 27/Feb/2012. Feel free to correct anything that is not right.

76.935 - Estádio Maracanã (Rio de Janeiro, RJ) - City Population (2010): 6.355.949 // Metropolitan Area Population (2010): 11.711.233
71.412 - Estádio Nacional (Brasília, DF) - City: 2.609.997 // Metro: 3.716.996
69.950 - Estádio Mineirão (Belo Horizonte, MG) - 2.385.639 // 4.882.977
67.037 - Estádio Castelão (Fortaleza, CE) - 2.476.589 // 3.610.379
65.807 - Estádio de Itaquera (São Paulo, SP) - 11.316.149 // 19.822.572
56.500 - Arena Fonte Nova (Salvador, BA) - 2.693.605 // 3.574.804
50.287 - Estádio Beira Rio (Porto Alegre, RS) - 1.413.094 // 3.979.561
43.921 - Arena Pernambuco (Recife, PE) - 1.546.516 // 3.688.428
43.710 - Arena Amazônia (Manaus, AM) - 1.832.426 // 2.106.866
42.968 - Arena Pantanal (Cuiabá, MT) - 556.298 // 834.060
42.001 - Arena das Dunas (Natal, RN) - 810.780 // 1.350.840
40.000 - Arena da Baixada (Curitiba, PR) - 1.764.540 // 3.168.980

Population distribution (year 2000):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/ARCHELLA_E_THERY_Img_06.png/300px-ARCHELLA_E_THERY_Img_06.png
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:ARCHELLA_E_THERY_Img_06.png

AcesHigh

February 28th, 2012, 07:41 PM

images captured from this tv report
http://g1.globo.com/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/jornal-do-almoco/videos/t/edicoes/v/enquanto-as-obras-do-beira-rio-estao-paradas-arena-esta-a-pleno-vapor/1833272/

http://lh6.ggpht.com/-r-xF-I6sACY/T00BDdbndTI/AAAAAAAABUw/HiJmzqg8yYY/s800/ARENA%25202.png

http://lh6.ggpht.com/-NYZSpBKGuOM/T00BC0qpwTI/AAAAAAAABUo/elMq3940fik/s800/ARENA%25201.png

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAACB7mYRmshQohK0J6IQLhpacXXvcupHl77qXX_UUsG1mfY7wNFhGXBrmfg3LPmf1rWCjUDZ9Hn_oaqX40gvKWbEAm1T1UEo-RyrRHbnDGhMfcKlIIVXX3h8s.jpg

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAOHt4rXYyvZUJ3BHkQFqkiLnVNsviLz_WqHbTUjzMyISD-oVw-fBge3Y2ZUBRWYw0e5oS3t1Gwm8QG2mbNyHQqMAm1T1UFfiRI7vNX2uEsmXmfgvEj2qM71T.jpg

DannyelBrazil

February 29th, 2012, 09:53 AM

No. Itaquera is the distric/neighborhood where it is located. The oficial name is not yet defined (as far as I know).

So far, Fifa officially calls it "Arena de São Paulo".

ruifo

March 1st, 2012, 01:20 PM

http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/copa-do-mundo/noticia/2012/03/maracana-completa-dois-anos-de-reforma-com-35-das-obras-prontas.html

X-Ray of the Works for the 2014 FIFA World Cup
01/Mar/2012

Percentage relative to the ongoing works:
59% - Fortaleza / Estádio Castelão
53% - Salvador / Arena Fonte Nova
52% - Brasília / Estádio Nacional
50% - Belo Horizonte / Estádio Mineirão
43% - Cuiabá / Arena Pantanal
35% - Rio de Janeiro / Estádio Maracanã
35% - Manaus / Arena da Amazônia
32% - Recife / Arena Pernambuco
28% - Porto Alegre / Estádio Beira Rio
26% - São Paulo / Arena de São Paulo
19,8% - Natal / Arena das Dunas

Percentage relative to the arena, and not its works:
60,0% - Arena da Baixada / Curitiba

************************************

A month ago it was like that:

X-Ray of the Works for the 2014 FIFA World Cup
01/Feb/2012

Percentage relative to the ongoing works:
56,0% - Castelão / Fortaleza
51,0% - Fonte Nova / Salvador
50,0% - Estádio Nacional / Brasília
45,0% - Mineirão / Belo Horizonte
38,0% - Arena Pantanal / Cuiabá
33,0% - Arena da Amazônia / Manaus
32,0% - Arena Pernambuco / Recife
32,0% - Maracanã / Rio de Janeiro
28,0% - Beira-Rio / Porto Alegre
25,0% - Arena de São Paulo / São Paulo
18,5% - Arena das Dunas / Natal

Percentage relative to the arena, and not its works:
60,0% - Arena da Baixada / Curitiba

http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/copa-do-mundo/noticia/2012/02/castelao-nacional-de-brasilia-e-arena-fonte-nova-ultrapassam-50-da-obra.html

jecarega

March 1st, 2012, 02:16 PM

Anyone else thinks that Natal won't build it on time?

ruifo

March 1st, 2012, 02:39 PM

More updates from Fortaleza's Castelão Stadium:

The support to the cover structure is starting to be built in place now from March onwards.

"Montagem das colunas da estrutura da coberta metálica do Castelão"
http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/7ee5f7d6630911e18bb812313804a181_7.jpg

"Etapa 3- Prédio principal"
http://distilleryimage4.instagram.com/8182cb6e631711e1b9f1123138140926_7.jpg

"Comitiva Alemã no Castelão"
http://distilleryimage9.instagram.com/99bb3f40631711e180d51231380fcd7e_7.jpg

https://twitter.com/#!/FerruccioPetri

ruifo

March 1st, 2012, 02:41 PM

Last updates from the works in NATAL:

Fotos 27/02/2012

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91183.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91184.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91185.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91186.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91187.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91188.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91189.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91190.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91191.jpg

http://arquivos.tribunadonorte.com.br/fotos/91192.jpg

http://tribunadonorte.com.br/album/super/3323

http://programaregistrando.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/91156.jpg

http://programaregistrando.com.br/?p=33217

Achei essa foto, mas não tenho a data, mas é de fevereiro.

ruifo

March 1st, 2012, 02:51 PM

AcesHigh

March 1st, 2012, 03:31 PM

ha, look at Beira Rio´s line.

Ku4t

March 1st, 2012, 06:40 PM

ruifo

March 1st, 2012, 06:49 PM

I am not sure where, but I find It was published in "Estado de São Paulo" that the information provided by COL are wrong.

You may be refering to the TCU report, published in January/February 2012, with info about the arenas works from diferent times, all still from 2011. SO yes, there are discrepancy due to the diferente timeset and possible different metodology too. Newspapers have been highlinghting this for some days now.

DannyelBrazil

March 2nd, 2012, 09:17 AM

Anyone else thinks that Natal won't build it on time?

I'd rather to wait a little before put Natal out of the WC.

JPBrazil

March 2nd, 2012, 07:07 PM

AcesHigh

March 2nd, 2012, 07:14 PM

To me it's obvious, Natal won't be able to host the games... the only way I see this happening is if they build a simpler/smaller/fast construction stadium.

My other concern is Beira Rio in Porto Alegre, but they have Gremio Arena as a spare venue.

dont worry, everything indicates that there will be public money poured into Beira Rio, or that Dilma Roussef will illegally award AG with more contracts in exchange for them to take the Beira Rio project forward.

trmather

March 2nd, 2012, 08:09 PM

To be fair, if any of the stadiums aren't finished, can they not just move the matches to the local beach?

Sure the fans and players wouldn't mind :D.

AcesHigh

March 2nd, 2012, 08:13 PM

To be fair, if any of the stadiums aren't finished, can they not just move the matches to the local beach?

Sure the fans and players wouldn't mind :D.

good luck playing a match in a 3 meters wide fresh water beach, under rain and temperatures of 6 celcius, in Porto Alegre´s winter.

Also, Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Cuiabá and Manaus dont have beaches. (nor São Paulo, although its located about 70km only from the sea)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1IPRXOouGxE/TvnHkMb57PI/AAAAAAAABLo/Yzin3yDN9ik/s1600/temperatura%2Bporto%2Balegre%2Binverno%2Bfrio.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_01iYrjzbCAE/TTD55iNWPHI/AAAAAAAAADg/OLtRI2HQ1Us/s1600/rua-dos-andradas-porto-alegre1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GqQZ0IE8BRw/ThDLyFW05II/AAAAAAAACdI/g5icB09vYVg/s1600/frio+porto+alegre.jpg

http://www.portoimagem.com/predios/novos8/neblina-centro2.jpg

Laurence2011

March 2nd, 2012, 11:44 PM

I'm pretty sure FIFA regulations state the importance of non sand-based playing surfaces for world cup host nations.

Hansadyret

March 3rd, 2012, 12:15 AM

Wich stadiums will host the confed cup a year before?

Hansadyret

March 3rd, 2012, 12:32 AM

The construction of stadiums, transport infrastructure and hotels for fans is behind schedule, said Fifa's general secretary Jerome Valcke.

He added that Brazil appeared to be more concerned with winning the World Cup than organising it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17240641

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 02:23 AM

Wich stadiums will host the confed cup a year before?

These four are confirmed by FIFA to host the 2013 Confederations Cup: Fortaleza's Castelão + Belo Horizonte's Mineirão + Rio de Janeiro's Maracanã + Brasília's Nacional.

Salvador's Fonte Nova & Recife's Arena Pernambuco may be aso added to the four above, but that will depend on how fast these two can be finished.

AcesHigh

March 3rd, 2012, 03:02 AM

These four are confirmed by FIFA to host the 2013 Confederations Cup: Fortaleza's Castelão + Belo Horizonte's Mineirão + Rio de Janeiro's Maracanã + Brasília's Nacional.

Salvador's Fonte Nova & Recife's Arena Pernambuco may be aso added to the four above, but that will depend on how fast these two can be finished.

it also depends if the 4 above can be finished.

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 04:32 PM

it also depends if the 4 above can be finished.

I strongly believe that Fortaleza, Salvador, Brasilia and Belo Horizonte will be ready by the end of 2012 (this year). Rio de Janeiro may be ready by March or April 2013 (next year). Recife, I don't know... It could be ready like Rio's timeline, but I really don't know.

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 05:42 PM

http://www.fifa.com/confederationscup/news/newsid=1577598/index.html

Just 500 days until Brazil 2013 kick-off

http://www.fifa.com/mm//Photo/Tournament/Competition/01/57/76/42/1577642_FULL-LND.jpg

Given that we are still in early 2012, it is tempting to think there is a long way to go before the 32 participating teams kick off their bids for glory at the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™. Yet fans in the Host Nation need wait less than a year and a half to savour a similarly feverish atmosphere in that most tantalising of FIFA World Cup appetisers: the FIFA Confederations Cup.

On 15 June 2013, the Estadio Nacional in Brasilia will host the opening match of the next ‘Festival of Champions’, with the competition to feature the continental title winners from each of the world’s six confederations, in addition to reigning world champions Spain and hosts Brazil. The eight participating nations will battle it out to reach 30 June’s final in the Maracana in Rio de Janeiro, while the cities of Belo Horizonte and Fortaleza are also scheduled to welcome games.

Recife and Salvador, for their part, are still awaiting final approval from FIFA and the Brazil 2014 Local Organising Committee (LOC). The final announcement of the tournament’s match schedule and the confirmed host cities will come in June 2012.

“To all of us in the Local Organising Committee, the FIFA Confederations Cup is much more than just a preparatory tournament for the FIFA World Cup,” said Brazil legend and current member of the LOC’s Management Board, Ronaldo, who was a FIFA Confederations Cup winner at Saudi Arabia 1997. “We’re determined to put on a great fiesta next year, a genuine Festival of Champions.”

"The FIFA Confederations Cup is much more than just a preparatory tournament for the FIFA World Cup. We’re determined to put on a great fiesta next year, a genuine Festival of Champions."
-- Ronaldo

A number of said champions have already secured their places alongside Spain and Brazil, with Mexico, Japan and Uruguay winning the CONCACAF Gold Cup, AFC Asian Cup and Copa America respectively in 2011. The remaining participants will be the victors of next year's CAF Africa Cup of Nations, the 2012 OFC Nations Cup and the UEFA EURO 2012. The eight competing teams will be divided into two groups of four at the competition’s final draw, which will be held on 1 December in Sao Paulo.

“I think that in Brazil [in 2013] we’ll have the strongest set of national sides since the tournament began,” said Ronaldo. “It will be a great opportunity for Brazilian fans to watch top-level football in new stadiums, as well as to give the world a little taste of our hospitality.”

Size on the rise
Ever since the inaugural edition in 1992 in Saudi Arabia, when it was still known as the King Fahd Cup, the FIFA Confederations Cup proved both popular with supporters as well as a valuable opportunity for major national sides to clash at an official tournament. The competition has been held on a four-yearly basis, the year before each FIFA World Cup and in the same host country, since Germany 2005. Indeed, the concept has been so successful that the 16 matches played at South Africa 2009 were transmitted live to 149 territories, with audience figures totalling 550 million people.

What's more, the FIFA Confederations Cup holds a special place in the hearts of Brazilian football fans thanks to the fine pedigree of A Seleção – winners of three of the eight editions to date, including the last two.

“It’s an extremely important competition, it’s like a preview for the FIFA World Cup,” said Ronaldinho, who helped inspire Brazil to victory in Germany in 2005, the year he was also voted FIFA World Player for the second time. “The next edition will have a special flavour since it’s in Brazil. For that reason I’m very motivated, and I’m hoping to take part in this competition in 2013."

As part of the countdown process, the next FIFA Confederations Cup now has an official emblem, which features a native Brazilian bird species: the Rufous-bellied Thrush. This unveiling goes to show just how quickly things are progressing, with tickets for Brazil 2013 going on sale shortly after the final draw. And, in exactly 500 days’ time, will come the moment Brazil has been waiting for since they were announced as 2014 FIFA World Cup hosts back in 2007: watching the world’s best players grace Brazilian soil.

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 05:44 PM

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1592990/index.html

Stadiums progress: Brazil 2014

(LOC) Friday 2 March 2012

At the beginning of March, the Local Organising Committee (LOC) of the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ released new photos showing the progress of construction work at the various stadiums. Now, as part of our monthly ‘Stadiums Progress’ feature, you can see for yourself the significant advances in the arenas due to host the FIFA Confederations Cup Brazil 2013 and the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil.

In several stadiums, it is now possible to see not only the upper terraces but also the lower pitch-level ones. In other shots, you can witness just how quickly the construction of the concrete floor slabs is advancing.

Check out the latest pictures from all eleven 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil stadiums by clicking on the photo gallery on the right hand side.

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Axelferis

March 3rd, 2012, 06:31 PM

Le Brésil a annoncé samedi qu'il n'accepterait plus Jérôme Valcke comme interlocuteur de la FIFA à la suite des déclarations de son secrétaire général français, très critique pour le retard dans les préparatifs de la Coupe du monde 2014. Aldo Rebelo, ministre des Sports, l'a fait savoir au cours d'une conférence de presse, s'attirant sans retard une réplique de M. Valcke, qui a jugé la réaction du Brésil «un peu puérile» avant d'annoncer qu'il se rendrait dans le pays le 12 mars... (Avec AFP)

reverso traduction

Brazil announced on Saturday that it would not accept any more Jérôme Valcke as interlocutor of FIFA following the statements(declarations) of his French, very critical General Secretary for the delay in the preparations for the World cup 2014. Aldo Rebelo, Minister of Sports, let him(it) know during a press conference, incurring without delay Mr Valcke's retort(replica), which judged the "a little bit childish" reaction of Brazil before announcing that he would go(surrender) in the country on March 12th... (With AFP)

slipperydog

March 3rd, 2012, 06:43 PM

Great update! What about Porto Alegre, are they still hosting?

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 07:01 PM

Great update! What about Porto Alegre, are they still hosting?

Yes, it is, but works are stoped for the last 250 days, due to contract problems there. They say it is going to be resolved soon. Fingers crossed.

jecarega

March 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM

ruifo

March 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM

Another good recent image from Fortaleza's Castelão:

Obra do Castelão conclui fevereiro com 59,2% de execução

http://blog.opovo.com.br/blogdoeliomar/files/2012/03/castel%C3%A3o-obras.jpg

http://blog.opovo.com.br/blogdoeliomar/obra-do-castelao-conclui-fevereiro-com-592-de-execucao/

Andy-i

March 3rd, 2012, 08:36 PM

Yes, it is, but works are stoped for the last 250 days, due to contract problems there. They say it is going to be resolved soon. Fingers crossed.

If they aren't they can always use the new Gremio stadium. Simple solution for Fifa.:)

Axelferis

March 4th, 2012, 12:29 AM

Who Jerome Valcke thinks he is?

A ''kick up the backside''? He thinks he's talking to whom?

What he thinks Brazil is? Some small third world country that is afraid of him?

It's better he watch his language...

Fifa is a corrupted organism! I wonder how can he open his ***** mouth and talk about brazilians like this ::ohno:

IronMan89

March 4th, 2012, 01:02 AM

Maybe Brazil is not affraid by Valcke... But Brazil really acts as a small third world country...

Just how stupid was it to give World cup and olympics to the same country in a 2 year span...

AcesHigh

March 4th, 2012, 01:41 AM

Great update! What about Porto Alegre, are they still hosting?

lets see... FIFA and the Local Organizing Comitee will be in Porto Alegre this tuesday. They wont see any works at all, only PROMISES of deals being signed and works resuming soon. The works at Beira Rio are stopped for 260 days already. And there are plenty of promises of works resuming next week... since may last year!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

all the while, in the very same city...

http://zerohora.rbsdirect.com.br/imagesrc/13118067.jpg?w=800

http://zerohora.rbsdirect.com.br/imagesrc/13118076.jpg?w=800

http://zerohora.rbsdirect.com.br/imagesrc/13118044.jpg?w=800

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http://zerohora.clicrbs.com.br/rs/esportes/gremio/fotos/obras-avancam-na-arena-do-gremio-30890.html

Carcará

March 4th, 2012, 05:20 AM

Maybe Brazil is not affraid by Valcke... But Brazil really acts as a small third world country...

Just how stupid was it to give World cup and olympics to the same country in a 2 year span...

The organization of the 2016 Olympics is more organized and advanced than the 2014 World Cup.

Kriativus

March 4th, 2012, 05:51 AM

No. Itaquera is the distric/neighborhood where it is located. The oficial name is not yet defined (as far as I know).

The official name will be irrelevant. No one call Maracanã as Jornalista Mário Filho. What matter is what become fixed in people's minds. Therefore, it will be called and heard as "Itaquerão" or "Fielzão".

AcesHigh

March 4th, 2012, 06:56 AM

I strongly believe that Fortaleza, Salvador, Brasilia and Belo Horizonte will be ready by the end of 2012 (this year). Rio de Janeiro may be ready by March or April 2013 (next year). Recife, I don't know... It could be ready like Rio's timeline, but I really don't know.

yes, they will probably be finished. What if they dont? There is a chance, even if minimum, for many things.

RobH

March 4th, 2012, 11:37 AM

It's all a lot tighter than FIFA would like in terms of timelines, there's no doubt about that. Still, Valcke is an idiot and should have never have been given another job at FIFA after the Mastercard/VISA scandal.

http://offsiderule.wordpress.com/category/marketing/

Axelferis

March 4th, 2012, 12:16 PM

@Robh-> remember my post about this corrupted organization & brazil 2014 story?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88172401&postcount=3127

HLbsb

March 5th, 2012, 12:51 AM

New Video - March 2011

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TEBC

March 5th, 2012, 01:39 AM

good luck playing a match in a 3 meters wide fresh water beach, under rain and temperatures of 6 celcius, in Porto Alegre´s winter.

Also, Curitiba, Belo Horizonte, Cuiabá and Manaus dont have beaches. (nor São Paulo, although its located about 70km only from the sea)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1IPRXOouGxE/TvnHkMb57PI/AAAAAAAABLo/Yzin3yDN9ik/s1600/temperatura%2Bporto%2Balegre%2Binverno%2Bfrio.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_01iYrjzbCAE/TTD55iNWPHI/AAAAAAAAADg/OLtRI2HQ1Us/s1600/rua-dos-andradas-porto-alegre1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GqQZ0IE8BRw/ThDLyFW05II/AAAAAAAACdI/g5icB09vYVg/s1600/frio+porto+alegre.jpg

http://www.portoimagem.com/predios/novos8/neblina-centro2.jpg

Manaus has beaches

AcesHigh

March 5th, 2012, 02:09 AM

Manaus has beaches

freshwater beaches, just like Porto Alegre. Not the same thing as "real" sea beaches.

ruifo

March 5th, 2012, 02:33 AM

Average Temperature & Precipitation in the host cities.
Source: http://br.weather.com/

Belo Horizonte, MG:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bhz.jpg

Brasília, DF:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bsb.jpg

Cuiabá, MT:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/cgb.jpg

Curitiba, PR:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/cwb.jpg

Fortaleza, CE:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/for.jpg

Manaus, AM:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mao.jpg

Natal, RN:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/nat.jpg

Porto Alegre, RS:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/poa.jpg

Recife, PE:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rec.jpg

Rio de Janeiro, RJ:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rio.jpg

São Paulo, SP:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/sao.jpg

Salvador, BA:
http://developmentissues.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ssa.jpg

Source: http://br.weather.com/

Carcará

March 5th, 2012, 07:46 AM

freshwater beaches, just like Porto Alegre. Not the same thing as "real" sea beaches.

You just forgot to mention the city of Brasilia - Brazil's capital, which also has no beach, among the 2014 World Cup host cities. Ends up being more than half of the host cities that has no beach itself.

ruifo

March 5th, 2012, 11:33 AM

AcesHigh

March 5th, 2012, 12:36 PM

5 have sea beaches: Fortaleza, Natal, Recife, Salvador and Rio de Janeiro
2 have fresh water beaches (rivers): Manaus and Porto Alegre
5 have no beaches: Cuiabá, Brasília, Belo Horizonte, São Paulo and Curitiba

well, technically, the Guaíba is a mix of river and lake... it has caractheristics of both.

so if we consider Guaíba as a lake, than Paranoá lake in Brasilia also adds fresh water beaches to Brasilia!

Ipanema beach, in the south zone of Porto Alegre
http://websmed.portoalegre.rs.gov.br/smed/inclusaodigital/atividades_educativas/andrea_quiz_Porto_Alegre/PRAIA%20IPANEMA.JPG

notice however that in the whole central area, you will have concrete or grass/vegetation meeting the water. Only there in the background (where you can see some "bays" and such), there are some sandy fresh water beaches.
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/43800156.jpg

oh, at Farrapos Avenue, you can also find plenty of beaches, I mean, bitches.

ruifo

March 5th, 2012, 06:40 PM

Updates from Fortaleza's Castelão, form the last Saturday (03/03/2012), when a group of selected individuals who applied to visit to stadium on the internet where granted the visit.

Visita dos internautas às obras do Castelão em 03/03/12
Por Ferruccio Feitosa (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.168243543294590.34934.161763350609276&type=3)

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/64970_168243623294582_161763350609276_241182_1371320077_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422387_168243996627878_161763350609276_241189_174936442_n.jpg

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Mais fotos: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.168243543294590.34934.161763350609276&type=3

TEBC

March 6th, 2012, 12:35 AM

well, technically, the Guaíba is a mix of river and lake... it has caractheristics of both.

so if we consider Guaíba as a lake, than Paranoá lake in Brasilia also adds fresh water beaches to Brasilia!

Ipanema beach, in the south zone of Porto Alegre
http://websmed.portoalegre.rs.gov.br/smed/inclusaodigital/atividades_educativas/andrea_quiz_Porto_Alegre/PRAIA%20IPANEMA.JPG

notice however that in the whole central area, you will have concrete or grass/vegetation meeting the water. Only there in the background (where you can see some "bays" and such), there are some sandy fresh water beaches.
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/43800156.jpg

oh, at Farrapos Avenue, you can also find plenty of beaches, I mean, bitches.

What amazing view of PA!

ruifo

March 6th, 2012, 12:40 AM

Original in Portuguese:
http://www.ceara.gov.br/component/content/article/5350/5350

Translation into English is a courtesy of http://translate.google.com

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Countdown: 300 days remain to complete the works of Castelão

http://www.ceara.gov.br/images/castelo_300_dias.jpg

On Tuesday (06), the clock that counts down to deliver the Stadium Placido Aderaldo Castelo, the Castelão, reaches the mark of 300 days. On occasion, the Secretary of the Special Cup in 2014, Ferruccio Feitosa, the stadium will receive a visit from the acting governor, Cláudio Roberto, and a former player who made history in their lawns. Erandir Montenegro Pereira, author of the first goal in Castelão in November 1973, will participate at 15 hours, the commemorative ceremony and change the numbering of the clock. The arena is that it has among the earliest works that will host matches of the Confederations Cup and 2013 FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014 ™. Currently, Castelão already reached 59.2% of execution and is due in December.

Of the four stages of the project of reform and modernization of the Castelão, two have already been completed. The Phase I was opened in November 2011. The phase includes Parking and Access Square North and the Building Industry Fares Candido Lopes, home to two State Government agencies (State Department of Sport and the Department of Architecture and Engineering). The Phase II includes Parking and Access Industry Square South
Steps III corresponds to the construction of the building which is considered the central command center for the entire stadium. Of the six floors designed for the new equipment, five are already built. According to the latest report, the stage reached 45.37% of execution. It is expected that the building is completed in September. Step IV already includes the completion of the entire project and interaction between steps. Currently, this phase is with 25.13% completion.

The fast pace of work of Castelão Stadium was largely responsible for the choice of Fortaleza as one of the host cities Confederations Cup 2013. The competition will be held in June 2013. Fortress may receive three games, but a semi-final has been confirmed here. The event is considered a great opportunity to test for the FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014 ™.

About the player - Montenegro Erandir Pereira is a former Brazilian football player who played during the decades from 1960 to 1970 as a striker for clubs such as Club de Regatas Vasco da Gama Clube Fortaleza, Ceará Sporting Club and Ferroviário Athletic Club. Among the main achievements are the leaders Cearense League Championship in 1969 and the North-Northeast, 1970, and runner-Cup Brazil 1968. How Ceará Sporting Club striker, scored the 1st goal of the Stadium Placido Aderaldo Castle, the Castelão.

SERVICE:
- 300 days for the inauguration of the stadium Castelão with the presence of former player Erandir, author of the first goal at the stadium in 1973 and the Governors in office, Claudio Roberto
- Date: 06.03.2012
- Time: 15 hours
- Meeting point: Clock Countdown to the delivery of the stadium Castelão (Access by Pauline Richards Avenue)

05/March/2012

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