^^

What is Honda Motors and scooters ? What do they develop?

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What is Honda Motors and scooters ? What do they develop?

Sorry - It is Honda Motorcycles and Scooters India which is a 100% subsidiary of Honda, Japan
http://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/

Honda has 3 ventures in India - Honda-Siel for manufacturing cars, HMSI for manufacturing 2 wheelers and Hero-Honda for manufacturing 2 wheelers. They make sure there is no overlap between Hero-Honda and HMSI offerings.

^^

What is Honda Motors and scooters ? What do they develop?


http://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Ashok-Leyland-Nissan-to-roll-out-LCVs-in-mid-2011/articleshow/5998877.cms

CHENNAI: The Hinduja Group's Ashok Leyland and Japanese Nissan Motor Company Tuesday said their joint venture will roll out light commercial
vehicles (LCVs) in mid-2011.

The joint venture company, Ashok Leyland Nissan, is a 51:49 partnership between Ashok Leyland and Nissan Motor.

The company will make two models at Ashok Leyland's plant at Hosur in Tamil Nadu and one model at Nissan Motor's facility at Oragadam near here.

"The three models will cater to different segments of the market- trucks, passenger carriers. The vehicles will be in the 5-7.5 tonne gross vehicle weight (GVW) range," executive chairman of Hinduja Automotive V. Sumantran told reporters here.

As Ashok Leyland Nissan was not able to get 380 acres at Sriperumbudur near here to set up a new plant, the two promoters decided to leverage their existing production facilities to hit the growing 350,000 units per annum LCV market at the earliest.

"The joint venture is moving forward at full throttle now although we had been forced to slow down a bit during the recessionary phase last year," Senior Vice President of Nissan Motor and Chairman of Ashok Leyland Nissan Andy Palmer said.

Ashok Leyland Nissan is expected to touch a total output of 150,000 units by the year 2013.

"The production split between Ashok Leyland and Nissan Motor will be in 60:40 ratio," Sumantran told IANS.

He said the engines and gear boxes will also be made at the respective plants where the LCVs are to be rolled out.

The BS (Bharat Stage) III and IV compliant 3 litre, 4 cylinder common rail diesel engines and gear boxes will be made by Nissan Ashok Leyland Powertrain Ltd, a 51:49 joint venture between Nissan Motor and Ashok Leyland.

Sumantran said the decision on the new plant will be taken at the end of Phase I by which time the land issue is expected to be resolved.

About the research and development joint venture between the two companies, Sumantran said: "The company has around 250 engineers and had provided the required support for the LCV project."

Sorry - It is Honda Motorcycles and Scooters India which is a 100% subsidiary of Honda, Japan
http://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/

Honda has 3 ventures in India - Honda-Siel for manufacturing cars, HMSI for manufacturing 2 wheelers and Hero-Honda for manufacturing 2 wheelers. They make sure there is no overlap between Hero-Honda and HMSI offerings.

That's correct Subra. Thanks for the info. Here is the article from the honda2wheelersindia site.
http://www.honda2wheelersindia.com/showpress.asp?typ=company&pressId=48
Hope TN gets the HeroHonda project.

Thank you guys!!! I to hope that we get the project!!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/Michelin-to-hire-about-200-people-in-India-this-year/articleshow/6002115.cms

RIO DE JANEIRO: French tyre major Michelin today said it will hire about 200 people in India this year as it gears up to start production from its
Chennai plant in the next two years.

The company is investing Rs 4,000 crore over a period of seven years on setting up the plant in Tamil Nadu that will produce truck and bus radial tyres.

"Our goal is to hire a little less than 200 people this year. They will be sent to Thailand for a three-week course once they come on board with us, after which they will be assigned to one of our overseas facility till the plant in Chennai becomes operational," Michelin President (Africa, India and Middle East) Prashant Prabhu said.

He said the company has already hired about 60 people for its Chennai plant.

In November last year, Michelin announced that it would invest Rs 4,000 crore on setting up a truck and a bus radial facility in Tamil Nadu scheduled to start operations in 2012.

The proposed facility, spread over 290 acres, would be constructed near Chennai and will employ a total of about 1,500 workers from local communities.

"By late 2011 or early 2012, we will start bringing wage labourers at the Chennai plant," Prabhu said, without divulging details.

On marketing and sales side, the company will enhance its workforce as its Chennai plant goes on stream, he added but declined to reveal the exact number.

Michelin has about 200 people on its sales and marketing team in India.

Asked what Michelin plans to do with the 100 acre land at Rajangaon in Pune, which it had inherited from its aborted joint venture with Apollo Tyres, Prabhu said the company is yet to decide on its future course of action.

He exuded confidence that the company's decision to focus on the truck and bus radial tyres in India will pay off.

"The rate of radialisation of truck and bus tyres in India is just about 10-15 per cent, which is the lowest for any market of such a big size... It offers a lot of potential for us," he said.
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It is a good show by TN to bring a world class major to Chennai despite their presence in Pune. It was a surprising move by Michelin to abandon their land parcel in Pune and come to Chennai. This is the second one after Dailmer which moved to Chennai with a bigger plant. Chennai is getting very attractive for auto majors for sure..:cheers:

Yes, good work by TN. Presence of AL & Caparo might be the reason. Also proximity to port for probable exports to S/E Asia (not sure if this is an option coz they already have a plant in Thailand wherefrom exports to S/E Asia will be catered).

But no new investments in motorcycle is coming up in chennai

http://expressbuzz.com/finance/mecaplast-opens-indian-facility-in-chennai/178682.html

Mecaplast Group, a 570-million Euro manufacturer of automobile equipment, on Thursday, launched its first production facility in India at Mahindra World City, Chennai.

The factory has invested nearly Rs 300 million for its initial set-up to manufacture a wide range of plastic engine and body parts for both local and international customers that include Ford, Renault-Nissan, General Motors, Toyota, Volkswagen, BMW, Peugeot, Mercedes-Benz, Fiat, Volvo, etc.

Set up at the DTA (Domestic Tariff Area) of Mahindra World City, the Mecaplast Group has its roots in Monaco, Europe, where it was founded in 1955 by Charles Manni. The group designs, develops and manufactures parts and complete systems for vehicle body and engine.

Mecaplast is a leading provider of the engine technologies, which aid automobile manufacturers to adhere to globally accepted environment norms (Euro IV & Euro V). The company also holds several design patents in their field.

The company boasts of over 5,800 employees based in 14 countries across the world, including 26 production sites, 11 technical centres, state-of-the-art testing centres and two skill centres which serve automotive markets globally.

The Mecaplast Chennai facility currently houses 40 employees. The production plant would primarily manufacture automotive plastic engine parts, exterior and interior parts namely engine air intake systems, coverings and shields, interior and exterior trims, cowl grills, fender liners and other plastic parts.

Thierry Manni, Chairman of the Mecaplast Group, said, ``The company is delighted to set up its first production facility in India. The Indian market holds great promise and we are quite certain that our products and technologies will be well accepted”.

Falcon Tyre Plant coming up in Madurai

It is first decided to bring tyre plant in chennai only,due to the stress of MK Azhagiri,Union Fertilizer Minister, it is coming up in Madurai with an investment of about 3000 crores.

Falcon Tyre Plant coming up in Madurai

It is first decided to bring tyre plant in chennai only,due to the stress of MK Azhagiri,Union Fertilizer Minister, it is coming up in Madurai with an investment of about 3000 crores.

are you sure its 3000 crores not 300 crores? I havent seen any tire companies investing such huge amts

^It is quite possible. Michelin is investing 4000 crores over a period of 7 years.

Same way 3000C investment could be over several years. Is there any official announcement?

Foxconn gives China workers dramatic wage hike

This news is indirectly related to us...that y i am posting here..... From this news... most of the china workers didn't get a pay raise for the last three years ...even big players like Foxconn pays its general assy workers only Rs 7000 per month ....after series of workers suicides due to military like management, heavy compulsory over time, damn low pay ..etc.... now they are raising the pay by 70% at one shot....to Rs 12000

The point here is it will trigger other workers country-wide to demand their pay raise....end up china manufacturing cost will increase quite high..... if this year china change its currency value (which is fake now).... then hope India will get a competitive advantage to give lower cost than China....that can trigger huge manufacturing investment :cheers: .... As Chennai already proved to be manufacturing hub , we can get very good share from that.... :nuts:

news link here (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/1061518/1/.html)

And this news also says how much India is good compared to other countries ..... especially to the selfish Hyundai workers who is going for strike very frequently....communists in india try to bring strike and close company always ...but in china very rare to see such thing.

Thanks to Communists and the workers to Kill jobs for the young's and destroying the country..... Please send this news to students and other friends so they will be aware about the consequences.... Indian media didn't put this news properly ....but Washington Post did.... Most probably hereafter hyundai will produce for domestic market only ...export will be moved for sure slowly :bash: I am really frustrated ...shame on India.... here the news

Indian govt scared for loosing votes to control these union atrocities...if we create huge awareness and get more support sure govt will be pushed to control them.... otherwise our future is a ???
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Strike halts Hyundai's India production


MUMBAI, India -- Striking workers forced Hyundai Motor to stop all production in India on Monday, the latest in a series of union battles that have pushed the nation's No. 2 carmaker to move some production to a factory in Turkey.

This is the fourth strike since 2008 at Hyundai's two adjacent plants in Sriperumbedur, outside the growing auto hub of Chennai, in the southern state of Tamil Nadu, the company said.

Hyundai is India's leading car exporter, having pioneered the model of making India a small car export hub which global auto majors like Ford, General Motors and Nissan are now trying to emulate.

But labor unrest is unraveling those plans for Hyundai.

Spokesman Rajiv Mitra said in an interview Monday that Hyundai plans to move European export production of its popular i20 compact from India to an existing factory in Izmit, Turkey by August.

"What triggered it is the labor problem," he said.

Turkey has other advantages, like reduced delivery time and lower taxes for its main export market, the European Union, he added.

Last year, Hyundai exported about 50,000 i20 compacts from India to Europe, more than half its total production of the car, he said.

Mitra said i20 cars for the domestic market and for export to other countries, like Australia, will still be made in India. He said no workers in India would be fired as a result of the shift, and the company currently has no plans to move additional production out of India.

In a statement Monday, Hyundai said 150 workers had occupied the factory, forcing a halt to production that resulted in a loss of 2,200 cars worth 650 million rupees ($13.8 million).

The honorary president of the Hyundai Motor India Employees Union, A. Soundararajan, told the Times of India that 400 workers occupied the factory Sunday midnight, and another 800 gathered outside after four more workers were dismissed Sunday. All shifts have been halted since then.

The union is also pushing Hyundai to officially recognize it over an existing worker's committee, which it maintains is controlled by management.

Under an agreement brokered by the government in July 2009, Hyundai agreed to reinstate 20 of 87 employees dismissed in the wake of violent protests.

Mitra said the remaining 67 workers had damaged company property and beaten up guards and would not be rehired.

"If you take them back, it sets a strong precedent: Anyone can do anything and not get punished," he said.

The company and union are scheduled to meet with state labor officials Tuesday to continue talks.

"We hope we can resolve it soon," Mitra said. "We expect the government to give us some support.":bash::bash::bash:

Hyundai employs about 10,000 in Sriperumbedur directly and its suppliers employ an additional 40,000 people. Last year the company produced 560,000 cars in India.

India's fast-growing auto sector has been roiled by other protests.:bash::bash::bash:

Last fall, thousands of auto-parts workers, some armed with rocks and makeshift clubs, went on strike in Haryana state's Gurgaon, just outside the capital New Delhi.

The protests, which initially targeted better wages, spread after a worker at Rico Auto Industries, which makes gear and brake parts, was killed in the agitation.

The 45-day strike reportedly forced GM and Ford to temporarily halt production at factories in the U.S. and Canada.

.......................News Link Here...................... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/08/AR2010060800201_2.html)

^^^DOn't worry buddy...it happens...it has temporarily moved the production to maintain supply demand balance..

hero-honda plant in TN, bye bye

^^^DOn't worry buddy...it happens...it has temporarily moved the production to maintain supply demand balance..

Its a serious matter should not be taken casually.TN workforce gets in to bouts of madness and strike work for flimsy reasons from time to time.Many good companies were closed owing to this problem in TN.Its not the case in neighbouring Karnataka,Maharashtra and Gujarat where autmoblile car and bus manufacturing MNCs face no such problems as the MNCs face in TN and yet people here aspire for more investments by MNCs.

Its a serious matter should not be taken casually.TN workforce gets in to bouts of madness and strike work for flimsy reasons from time to time.Many good companies were closed owing to this problem in TN.Its not the case in neighbouring Karnataka,Maharashtra and Gujarat where autmoblile car and bus manufacturing MNCs face no such problems as the MNCs face in TN and yet people here aspire for more investments by MNCs.

Also another thing you have to note...these news came in Washington Post and other major media..... the Brand Name of India is getting spoiled by these.. you know every investor look in to these issues very seriously.... if its just for domestic market production then they wont mind because they wont have choice of "Exit" ..... but if come to Export ...then its a gone case...... Manufacturing is the major industry to create job for Poor...that's why china is able to reduce poverty faster than India.....

" This is how Communist use Poor people to make more Poor People "

Does anyone know what exactly is the issue ? - based on the reports, I understand that there were around 80 employees who were suspended on disciplinary gounds, union have been fighting / negotiating to get these guys reinstated. Is this all or is there any other issue? This is the 3rd time the union has gone on strike for the same issue.

^^

In one press article, it was mentioned that 4 additional workers were suspended recenly on disciplinary grounds and that triggered this latest strike.
This is bad especially when auto market is turning around and Hyundai is thinking about setting up a diesel engine plant in the short term and the next plant expansion in the long term.

The shifting of i20 to Turkey is based on tax concessions in the European market. Hyundai was pushing for equivalent tax concessions with the Indian govt for a long time but couldn't succeed. Hence part of i20 exports are being shifted. That is also allowing them some space to take care of surging domestic demand. They are using the labour theory due to political reasons.

In any case, the labour issue have to be sorted out soon with firm hands.

throw out the striking workers too... We need JJ for this kind of action.

Manufacturing is the major industry to create job for Poor...that's why china is able to reduce poverty faster than India.....

" This is how Communist use Poor people to make more Poor People "

:nuts:China itself a communist state

:nuts:China itself a communist state

PdyKid....i think u r not aware about china.... china already changed 30 years back...in china workers can't protest easily... its completely oppossite to indian communist.........after all indian communist are china's spy to stop india's growth...

Mumbai and Kolkatta were on par at 50's because of strike kolkatta is now 8th important city in India and Mumbai is on top, this strike will push Chennai to 7th position.

Over two hundred agitating workers at Hyundai Motor India’s Sriperumbudur plant were arrested on Tuesday, the second day of the strike, the police said.

The arrests come at a time when the management and the workers were trying to resolve their differences at a reconciliation meeting mediated by the state Deputy Commissioner of Labour. The meeting, however, was inconclusive and will resume Wednesday.

According to the police, the arrested workers were part of a group of 230, who went into the plant on Monday for the second shift and stayed on, declaring a ‘sit-in-strike’ and stalling assembly work.

The company said it had suffered a loss of around Rs 130 crore due to the halt in production for the second day, which meant that 4,400 units could not be assembled.

The police said six workers were arrested on Monday for allegedly hurling stones and damaging property.

When contacted, a Hyundai Motor India Ltd spokesperson said: “The strike is illegal and so we had filed a police complaint. The police has acted on this and evicted about 200 striking workers.” The company is trying to resume normal production as soon as possible by resolving the issues with workers, he said.

Hyundai Motor India Employees Union (HMIEU) president and CITU’s Tamil Nadu Committee general secretary A. Sounderarajan said, “The arrest will only aggravate the situation.”

Under the aegis of HMIEU, the striking workers are demanding the reinstatement of 67 workers, who were part of a group of 87 workers dismissed last year.

The flash strike that started on Monday caused a loss of about Rs 65 crore to the company on the first day, with a production loss of 2,200 cars.

Hyundai employs about 10,000 workers at its plant, which has a production capacity of around 50,000 units per month.

Last July, the management and striking workers signed a wage settlement agreement, following which 20 of the 87 dismissed workers were reinstated. HMIL also gave a pay hike of 21-24 per cent over a three-year period to the workers.

HMIL said it had already reinstated the workers dismissed in December last on “humanitarian grounds”, based on negotiations held in the presence of the State Government.

The latest strike is the third instance of worker unrest in the plant within a year. The union had gone on strike from April 20 to May 7, 2009, demanding recognition and denouncing the dismissal of 80 employees. The strike ended after a meeting was called by the state labour commissioner on May 17, 2009. However, this strike was followed by another in July last year.

Source: http://beta.thehindu.com/business/companies/article449921.ece

I would like to add a few points here,

1. For those who quote China, please note that the highest # of worker suicides happen there. If you are interested, read this - http://www.kansascity.com/2010/06/08/2000682/younger-workforce-new-attitudes.html

2. Coming to Chennai's manufacturing culture, labor unions have always existed from the times of socialist India and is nothing new; it is only in the knowledge sector like IT, you can't find any unions. Expecting people in the manufacturing sector (who are usually less educated) to change to a non-union setup is not going to happen in the near future. Moreover, we all know that DMK has its own labor unions in MNCs. There was a news about it a few months back. So, things are getting political here and so there is no respite in sight.

3. Factories in TN have had their own share of labor problems and closures - MRF, HM etc. are more prominent ones of yester-years. Now, we have MNC companies to this list.

4. Recently there were shutdowns in Bosch, Toyota etc. in B'lore. An official of the upper management of some MNC was killed in Gurgoan; a similar incident took place in Coimbatore. So, this is not a problem with just Chennai. It is prevalent all over the country.

^^TN has the largest number of factories India and hence the percentage of labour issues can increase depending on the way management and worker unions mature.
In the Gurgoan belt, there are serious issues but surprisingly not much is heard about Maruti. Similarly, Ford is managing the unions better. There is also a management maturity here.
BTW Hyundai's Korean plant has reported many strikes in the past.

^^ You are right. Ford has manged unions better than its competitors (GM and Chrysler) in the US.

Does anyone know what exactly is the issue ? - based on the reports, I understand that there were around 80 employees who were suspended on disciplinary gounds, union have been fighting / negotiating to get these guys reinstated. Is this all or is there any other issue? This is the 3rd time the union has gone on strike for the same issue.


Hyundai has got a "Worker's committee" and that is the body with which ,the Management likes to talk and settle all matters. Mr Soundarajan of CPI-M has managed to influence some people and would like to register a CITU union there . The Management refuses to allow any other Union. During this process of mobilisation of workers, core supporters of CITU indulged in some violence. Management dismissed around 87 employees.

TN Govt and it's Labour dept. conducted talks and they decided Hyundai shall take back all or some(?) dismissed workers. Hyundai took back 20 of them and flatly refused to take back 67 Core supporters.

Now CITU wants it's recognition and insist on Management to take back 67 of their supporters.

That is NO,NO for Hyundai.

Don't worry too much about this.

If the Human Relations dept could perform in such a way that Workers feel Company's growth and theirs are more important than Mr Soundarajan's interest, everything will be smooth. This is in the hands of the Management.

Enough bad news. Lets post some good ones :)

http://beta.profit.ndtv.com/news/show/renault-nissan-aims-at-agressive-sales-targets-72450

The Renault Nissan Alliance knows it has to play catch up in the Indian car market and is now turning on the heat.

With large export orders as well as domestic demand to meet, sources in Nissan say the existing capacity at the Chennai plant won’t be enough.

A few years down the line once Renault products also start rolling off its assembly line, would mean that the Renault-Nissan alliance is aiming to hit its 400,000 unit target well ahead of the 2015 deadline.

To make that happen, the construction of a second assembly line at Chennai will begin in 2011.:cheers:

Renault-Nissan alliance is working on bringing out a SUV on Nisaan’s global V-platform and the Micra is the first product from it.

The V-platform will also spawn other variants like an MPV and Renault's next generation Clio hatch. These will hit the market by 2013..

Nissan is also examining the potential of increasing its play in the SUV-crossover space with models like Murano, Qashqai, Juke and Note.

Nissan will also begin loal assembly of its current imported models X Trail and Teana.

And while experts agree both Renault and Nissan are likely to hurt the market biggies Maruti Suzuki and Hyundai, it is an inadequate network that will be the major chink in its armour.

Nissan plans to take its reach to over 100 locations by 2013 and it is the same target for alliance partner Renault. But as that network falls into place can the limited number of dealers in the interim help achieve the aggressive sales targets?

Over two hundred agitating workers at Hyundai Motor India’s Sriperumbudur plant were arrested on Tuesday, the second day of the strike, the police said.

The arrests come at a time when the management and the workers were trying to resolve their differences at a reconciliation meeting mediated by the state Deputy Commissioner of Labour. The meeting, however, was inconclusive and will resume Wednesday.

According to the police, the arrested workers were part of a group of 230, who went into the plant on Monday for the second shift and stayed on, declaring a ‘sit-in-strike’ and stalling assembly work.

The company said it had suffered a loss of around Rs 130 crore due to the halt in production for the second day, which meant that 4,400 units could not be assembled.

The police said six workers were arrested on Monday for allegedly hurling stones and damaging property.

When contacted, a Hyundai Motor India Ltd spokesperson said: “The strike is illegal and so we had filed a police complaint. The police has acted on this and evicted about 200 striking workers.” The company is trying to resume normal production as soon as possible by resolving the issues with workers, he said.

Hyundai Motor India Employees Union (HMIEU) president and CITU’s Tamil Nadu Committee general secretary A. Sounderarajan said, “The arrest will only aggravate the situation.”

Under the aegis of HMIEU, the striking workers are demanding the reinstatement of 67 workers, who were part of a group of 87 workers dismissed last year.

The flash strike that started on Monday caused a loss of about Rs 65 crore to the company on the first day, with a production loss of 2,200 cars.

Hyundai employs about 10,000 workers at its plant, which has a production capacity of around 50,000 units per month.

Last July, the management and striking workers signed a wage settlement agreement, following which 20 of the 87 dismissed workers were reinstated. HMIL also gave a pay hike of 21-24 per cent over a three-year period to the workers.

HMIL said it had already reinstated the workers dismissed in December last on “humanitarian grounds”, based on negotiations held in the presence of the State Government.

The latest strike is the third instance of worker unrest in the plant within a year. The union had gone on strike from April 20 to May 7, 2009, demanding recognition and denouncing the dismissal of 80 employees. The strike ended after a meeting was called by the state labour commissioner on May 17, 2009. However, this strike was followed by another in July last year.

Source: http://beta.thehindu.com/business/companies/article449921.ece


no reinstatement should be given. hyundai should be strict.:ohno: in last one year this is 3rd strike. strike in MRF, HYUNDAI,NLC HAS BECOME VERY COMMON.

GOD WHEN R U GOING TO MAKE MADAM CM???????

http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/09/stories/2010060955640500.htm

Hyundai can sponsor some popular Govt. related events or Kalaignar programs
to serve dual purpose of promoting their own products in local market and
keeping the minority party backed strikes at bay provided they are clean with their employees.

I would like to add a few points here,

1. For those who quote China, please note that the highest # of worker suicides happen there.

Buddy..i said Manufacturing is the major industry to create more jobs for poor and as in "china" its already proved how manufacturing industry can reduce poverty......and from that only now India creating lot of SEZ in rural areas..... I am not saying about the china's management system....for sure its out of question...


2. Expecting people in the manufacturing sector (who are usually less educated) to change to a non-union setup is not going to happen in the near future. Moreover, we all know that DMK has its own labor unions in MNCs.

You are using our bad history to justify the bad to happen again ? India is always damaged by these ruthless unions... what u say about Air india staffs went to flash strike leaving thousands of people life miserable ? as it happened before can we allow to happen again and say its usual in india ? With that attitude we cant change i guess.... Not only DMK even ADMK too have union to get the votes of workers....thats y i said if they came to know they will loose more votes by supprting these unions then they will change.


3. Factories in TN have had their own share of labor problems and closures - MRF, HM etc. are more prominent ones of yester-years. Now, we have MNC companies to this list.

I don't understand u r supporting or opposing...:nuts:



4. Recently there were shutdowns in Bosch, Toyota etc. in B'lore. An official of the upper management of some MNC was killed in Gurgoan; a similar incident took place in Coimbatore. So, this is not a problem with just Chennai. It is prevalent all over the country.

So you are compromised as all states have this problem ?? Typical Indian attitude .... if my home get a damage i will worry ...but if my neighbor too then i am happy ?? I worry for the whole india only...even gurgoan or B'lore where ever you will feel the pinch indirectly.

There are so many other countries ready to roll out the Red carpet for these big players especially when come to "Export".... If you miss the chance or misuse the chance then its a finished game.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/09/stories/2010060955640500.htm

: When some multinationals have experienced labour strife after setting up base in Tamil Nadu, Ford India seems to have a positive viewpoint on employee relations.

“Labour relations in Tamil Nadu have been extraordinarily successful for us,” said Nigel Wark, Marketing Director, Ford India.

He was participating in a panel discussion on ‘Challenges and Opportunities of Doing Business in India' hosted by the Rotary Club of Madras and Chennai Business School.

Terming employee relations a vital component of investment rationale, Mr. Wark said it was remarkable that in 13 years Ford had not lost a single worker to an industrial dispute.

“This encourages us to further invest here,” he said. While competitive tax regimes, free flow of supplies, infrastructure and government commitment to investors were all critical to successful operations, the people have been the “real diamond,” he said.

“There is this enthusiasm in the youth and the thirst for knowledge,” he said. The English capability here also stands out, said Mr. Wark, for whom Chennai is “India's best kept secret.”

[QUOTE=Subra;58330245]: When some multinationals have experienced labour strife after setting up base in Tamil Nadu, Ford India seems to have a positive viewpoint on employee relations.


Hyundai and some of the far eastern companies centralize all decision making in their home countries. The local management is always looking up to the home country for each and everything. That could be one of the reasons for these labour problems where the local management is not able to take decisions and always listen to a management which is out of touch with Indian sensibilities

Buddy..i said Manufacturing is the major industry to create more jobs for poor and as in "china" its already proved how manufacturing industry can reduce poverty......and from that only now India creating lot of SEZ in rural areas..... I am not saying about the china's management system....for sure its out of question...
I want to draw the similarities (to some extent) between the Chinese situation and ours.

You are using our bad history to justify the bad to happen again ? India is always damaged by these ruthless unions... what u say about Air india staffs went to flash strike leaving thousands of people life miserable ? as it happened before can we allow to happen again and say its usual in india ? With that attitude we cant change i guess.... Not only DMK even ADMK too have union to get the votes of workers....thats y i said if they came to know they will loose more votes by supprting these unions then they will change.
What I want to bring to light is the fact that Dravidian party based unions are now becoming common in TN especially in MNCs. This is not a good trend. Since Dravidian parties are in power most of the time in TN, workers could take advantage of that and go on strikes very frequently.

I don't understand u r supporting or opposing...:nuts:
I only quoted by observation which is neutral. :)

So you are compromised as all states have this problem ?? Typical Indian attitude .... if my home get a damage i will worry ...but if my neighbor too then i am happy ?? I worry for the whole india only...even gurgoan or B'lore where ever you will feel the pinch indirectly. There are so many other countries ready to roll out the Red carpet for these big players especially when come to "Export".... If you miss the chance or misuse the chance then its a finished game.
Before somebody could bash Chennai and compare it with B'lore, I preempted them with this info. :)

A three-day strike at Hyundai Motor's (005380.KS) India plant ended on Wednesday and normal production resumed after an agreement between the car maker and striking workers, a spokesman for the local unit said.

As part of the settlement, Hyundai's India unit agreed to review the dismissal of 35 of 67 sacked workers, spokesman Rajiv Mitra said.

A committee with representatives from Hyundai, the government and the workers' union has been formed to consider the reinstatement, Mitra said.

Earlier in the day, Mitra had said production at the plant in the southern city of Chennai had resumed even as a section of workers continued their strike.

Some workers at the plant had halted work on Monday demanding full re-instatement of dismissed employees in violation of orders while conciliation on the issue was under way, the company had said.

Hyundai Motor, South Korea's top auto maker, is the No. 2 brand in the fast-growing Indian market, competing with Maruti Suzuki (MRTI.BO). Hyundai's Indian plant produces cars for both local and overseas markets and employs around 10,000.

The halt in production had resulted in a loss of 2,000 cars and had cost about 650 million rupees ($14 million) per day, the India unit had said on Tuesday.

India's labour laws are rated by the World Bank as among the most rigid and some analysts say they hurt corporate competitiveness in Asia's third-largest economy.

While government data for strikes this year is not available, there is evidence they are on the rise and more unrest may be in store as India looks to divest stakes in over-staffed state firms to bridge a yawning fiscal deficit.

A World Bank report on the ease of doing business last year ranked India 122 of 181 countries and suggested greater flexibility in labour laws would help create more jobs and reduce poverty.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE6580BW20100609

^^

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Hyundai-strike-called-off-production-back-on-track/articleshow/6029118.cms

Hyundai, with an investment of Rs 8,000 crore and a further Rs 8,000 crore through its vendors, is TN’s largest private sector investor. It is a jewel in the crown of TN, Mr Sethuraman said, dwelling on the government’s intervention in restoring industrial peace and harmony
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Asked if HMIL would consider re-location if the labour trouble festers, Mr Park said it always considered Chennai to be a hometown. “We have commit-ted huge investments in this area and we will continue to invest in the state of Tamil Nadu,” he said.

^^
http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/10/stories/2010061061210400.htm

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“We have commit-ted huge investments in this area and we will continue to invest in the state of Tamil Nadu,” he said.

Sure every company will say this only...even if they planned other ways.....Lets wait and see... If they invest that Rs 2000 Cr for that engine plant this year then its true ....otherwise ! !

http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/11/stories/2010061155851800.htm

KOLKATA: With India emerging as one of the major growth-drivers for the Paris-based multinational tyre maker Michelin, the group is open to the idea of a second project in India, Michel Rollier, managing general partner, said.

Talking to visiting Indian journalists in Rio de Janeiro recently, he said while India was one of the largest markets for truck tyres there were opportunities in other areas too like tyres for passenger cars.

Project in Tamil Nadu
Michelin is implementing a Rs. 4,000-crore radial truck/bus tyre project in Tamil Nadu which it hopes to commission by 2012. “We need at least two more years after that to think about another project,” Mr. Rollier said.

In reply to a question suggesting delays over land acquisition and approvals in the Tamil Nadu project, he said, “In democracy things take time but we are hopeful of getting the final approvals within a year, it is a good project.” To a question as to whether there would be an R&D centre too in India, he said that the company would go step-by-step starting with production, followed by marketing and sales and then R&D.

At a separate press conference, Claire Dorland Clauzel, Senior Vice-President, Communications & Brands, said that the company would need to develop a communication strategy later.

Mr. Rollier said that while the company remained deeply committed to its industrial bases in developed countries and would make investments in specialised projects in France, new factories would be built on the basis of necessity. He, however, assured that no jobs were being replaced. The interactions were held under the auspices of Challenge Bibendum, the company's sustainable mobility event.

Engg students build dual power bike to save fuel

Link Here (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Chennai/Engg-students-build-dual-power-bike-to-save-fuel/articleshow/6035321.cms)

CHENNAI: Three final-year students of St Joseph's Engineering College have designed what they call ‘fuel stingy vehicle' — a bike that can run on petrol as well as battery. With two handlebars, a red petrol tank and a rugged body, it looks like a dirt bike right out of an action movie.

The three mechanical engineering students — Arun Prakash N, Charan Raj G B and M Abraham Devanesan — used the body of a moped and fixed a motorbike's petrol tank and engine to it. The bike has four lithium batteries and a petrol tank of 12-litre capacity. A motorist can ride upto 45 km on battery alone and nearly 35 km on petrol. “We tested it ourselves. On fuel, the vehicle can travel at a speed of 45 kmph and on battery at 35 kmph,” said Arun Prakash. He said the battery takes nearly two and a half hours to charge and can last up to six hours at a stretch.

The advantage of this automobile over other electric scooters is the dual mode of power. “There are two handlebars with two key slots. The motorist can switch to either mode while riding. They just have to switch off the key to one mode and turn on the other. The speed will reduce initially and then pick up,” said Charan Raj.

Unlike most engineering projects, where students concentrate on inventions alone, these three did a market survey among electric bike users in Chennai, Coimbatore and Tiruchi to find out what was missing in the
existing vehicles.

“We did the market study in September 2009 and then started our work. We found that most wanted something which could give them better mileage. Hence, we thought of giving the option of the petrol mode. The project was completed during May 2010. This, we did out of our own interest and funding. Our college project is different,” said Abraham Devanesan.

The students said they have approached a leading Chennai-based automobile manufacturer, who has agreed to give them an audience.

^^ Nice to hear .. being a mechanical engineer myself ;) ..

I read about this Kamaz Vectra in the net...When i checkd their indian site it had Hosur address. Can anyone throw more light on this company and products. I have seen HINO , SCANIA, MAN, IZUSU trucks in chennai ...but no KAMAZ Vectra...


http://www.vectragroup.com/aboutus.asp

I read about this Kamaz Vectra in the net...When i checkd their indian site it had Hosur address. Can anyone throw more light on this company and products. I have seen HINO , SCANIA, MAN, IZUSU trucks in chennai ...but no KAMAZ Vectra...


http://www.vectragroup.com/aboutus.asp

Kamaz vectra makes off road vehicles which are supplied to the mines for moving the mined mineral. Earlier the truck was rolled out under the name Tatra and you might have seen Tatra trucks carrying our missiles on Republic day parade. The plant is located in Hosur SIPCOT complex just next to the Titan Industries Plant. Earlier it was called Tatra Udyog limited and was a JV between Tatra of Czech and Vectra of UK. Last year Kamaz of Russia entered into a JV with Tatra Udyog it got its new name : Kamaz - Vectra.

Url of the company : http://www.tatraindia.com/

News of their JV, dated : 3/2/2010
Source:Wheelsunplugged.com
For the past few years, global companies like Daimler, Vectra and Kamaz are betting big on the Indian market and have outlined humungous investments over the next few years. The Vectra Group, which already makes the Tatra range of trucks in India, will now also be making heavy-duty trucks in a joint venture with Russian manufacturer, Kamaz, which has announced that it has commenced vehicle production at the Hosur plant of its joint venture with India’s Tetra Vectra. The Russian truckmaker is hoping to find a niche in its US$5 billion truck market that is dominated by local manufacturers, with several international players recently joining the fray. Though it could not be officially confirmed, sources privy with the news have revealed that the trucks will be in the multi-axle 6x4 and 8x4 class and JV company is aiming to sell about 1,000 units of these trucks in the current fiscal. Vectra-Kamaz is eyeing a turnover of US$1 billion by 2011. While some trucks produced under the Vectra-Kamaz joint venture will be targeted at the Indian armed forces, while some will be exported to Israel, Russia and a few other countries.
Ravi Rishi, chairman at Vectra Group, is upbeat saying the joint venture company is competitive enough to enter the new mass market. He told reporters, “The foreign makers have taken on the top end of the market, which is a very small market, not more than 2 to 3 thousand trucks, and that’s where they are pitching their products, like Mercedes Tatra, Volvo. We are coming into the mass market and we feel that is a fast growing market, and we have pitched our product in a way – we are a 8 by 4 – that means we have more capacity to carry on road than the existing Indian players.”

Sergei Kogogin, Kamaz General Director, was optimistic about the success of the new plant for Kamaz. He stated, “I believe that we have chosen the correct area for business development by organizing Kamaz assembly in Hosur. Our partners and us have a high estimate of the possibilities of developing our joint venture and believe that significant success is possible through energetic and equipped operations in developing and producing in-demand models.”

In March 2009 Kamaz and Tatra Vectra signed a memorandum on the formation of the joint venture in which Kamaz paid 278 million Roubles for the Indian truck producer. Kamaz has increased its investment to US$16 million in its plant at Hosur in south India. It has a capacity of 7,500 trucks a year, and will cater to the Indian market as well as other countries in the region.


Regards,
Subbu

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20100614/SUB1/306149983/1003&Profile=1003

They need brakes and clutches in India, too, and that's why Cleveland-based Hawk Corp. plans to build a plant in the rapidly developing nation.

Hawk will begin with a plant near the city of Chennai in southeast India, said president Christopher DiSantis. He said the infrastructure in that area is some of the best in India, and it's near some of Hawk's existing customers there.

Hawk makes brake and clutch components, as well as other friction materials for products ranging from heavy equipment and aircraft to high-performance vehicles. In India, Hawk's chief end markets are the mining and agricultural sectors.

More specifically, Hawk sells to the heavy equipment makers, such as Caterpillar and Komtasu, that serve those markets, Mr. DiSantis said. It can meet their needs better, as well as sell to other large manufacturers operating in India, by setting up its own production operation in the country.

“They're not investing for the sake of investing. They're investing for the sake of their customers,” said analyst Eli Lustgarten, who follows Hawk for Longbow Research, a firm in Independence that provides investment research for institutional investors.

Mr. Lustgarten said companies around the world are trying to streamline and localize their supply chains — especially after those supply chains were stressed and sometimes failed in the recent economic downturn — and Hawk is taking advantage of that trend. The company already makes products in China, where Hawk has had a plant since 2000, and likely has the know-how and wherewithal to follow suit in India, he said.

Hawk has been studying the India market closely and likely will buy land for its plant later this year, Mr. DiSantis said. Then, it will spend another year or so building its plant. Plans have not been finalized, but Mr. DiSantis estimated the plant would be 40,000 square feet, employ about 50 people and cost between $5 million and $10 million.

Hawk has done its homework, including finding suppliers and testing about a half-dozen of them ahead of time.

“We do audits, and we have them make some parts for us here in America first,” Mr. DiSantis said.

Hawk will hit the ground with about 10 customers already in India, but it hopes to pick up more as its operation there matures. That's a model more American companies are following, Mr. DiSantis said.

“In the "90s, it was different. Everyone was going to these low-cost countries and trying to figure out how to lower the cost of items they could ship back to the U.S. market,” he said. “Now, the product's not meant to come out of there. It's made there and meant to stay in that market.”

^^How encouraging!!!!

After outsourcing, American companies have now started off-shoring their manufacturing to India. Chennai has good chances of getting all auto related manufacturing facilities.

When China revalues its currency, we would see more manufacturing in India.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Biz/India-Business/Peugeot-to-re-enter-Indian-market/articleshow/6048521.cms

CHENNAI: French auto major Peugeot looks set to re-enter the Indian market which it exited in the late 1990s. Peugeot-Citroen is currently prospecting locations around the country, including Tamil Nadu, to set up a manufacturing plant. The lure of the thriving Indian passenger car market (which is expected to grow from the present two million cars a year to six million in 10 years time), particularly at a time when Peugeot's market share in Europe is eroding, seems to be too strong to resist.

State government officials confirmed the development to TOI. "We are in discussions with the company. The plant would be located near Chennai," said Rajeev Ranjan, principal secretary, industries department, government of Tamil Nadu. "Everything is still at the discussion stage at this moment."

Details of size of investment, planned capacity or location of the plant is not available. Peugeot could not be reached for a comment either. Sources added that Peugeot was exploring various options — from assembling imported units to setting up a full fledged factory — on the outskirts of the city.

If the plant comes up near Chennai, it would make Peugeot, the second French major to enter Tamil Nadu after Renualt-Nissan. Chennai is also home to Hyundai, Ford, Mitsubishi and BMW and currently has the highest installed capacity of cars in India - 10.80 lakh. At a recent event, deputy chief minister M K Stalin had said, "Chennai will have capacity to produce 12.8 lakh cars and about 3.5 lakh commercial vehicles each year. This translates to an output of three cars every minute and one commercial every 75 seconds."

Attractiveness of Chennai is the presence of a supporting eco-system. The city along with its suburbs hosts a large number of automotive component makers and a large talent pool of skilled engineers and diploma holders. :cheers:
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Lets keep our hands, fingers, legs, eyes crossed:)

Subra You are so fast man:banana:

^^ Subra, OMG!!! do you even take rest for a moment. How are you doing it time and again?
Do you have some batch/cron job that scans the web for keywords like Chennai, Automotive etc and automatically post messages here?.:lol:

The speed at which you post messages is just mind boggling.

Good to hear that TN is proactively chasing Puegeot. However, lets not be too optimistic about it as we all know that our neighbors will go to any possible extent to grab this puppy.

I would say, Its not time to :cheers: yet.

Most waited news. Fingers crossed

@chennaidesi:

Auto Ancilliaries are mostly located in and around Chennai. With the innovative and trusted techniques like JUST IN TIME INVENTORY, nearby suppliers can cut cost to a great extent.

Nokia and Dell, Samsung & LG all are having their components suppliers either within their own SEZ or very closeby.

Chennai is able to attract all the auto majors mainly due to this reason. The second may be the availabilty of technical manpower.

^^

Sea port is an important factor. With 2 major sea ports and the NATRIP facility, Chennai is an attraction for any auto major. The only irritant now is labour problem. Peugeot closed its Maharastaa plant a decade back due to labour problem and they are very keen on good labour environemnt now. BTW Peugeot-Citroen has very unique reasons specific to Chennai:
a) Their sourcing office is located in Chennai
b) They have an alliance with Mitsubishi (JV talks failed) which has a plant in Chennai

Hope TN bags the project. It will benefit tier-2 cities in terms of component production.

^^ Subra, OMG!!! do you even take rest for a moment. How are you doing it time and again?
Do you have some batch/cron job that scans the web for keywords like Chennai, Automotive etc and automatically post messages here?.:lol:

The speed at which you post messages is just mind boggling.
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I look for Chennai/TN specific news periodically. Though I have never lived or worked in Chennai, it is the capital city of my state.:)

I look for Chennai/TN specific news periodically. Though I have never lived or worked in Chennai, it is the capital city of my state.:)

Great work Subra keep it up.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3183/fordcar12124725f.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/fordcar12124725f.jpg/)
Ford Car manufacturing plant at Maraimalai Nagar near Chennai. File Photo: T.A.Hafeez.

Carmaker Ford India today said that it has started exporting petrol engines from its Chennai unit to Thailand.

The company is also working towards exporting them to other parts of the world, including the Asia-Pacific and African regions.

The company exported its first batch of 1.4 litre and 1.6 litre high-compression petrol engines from the Maraimalai Nagar unit, near Chennai, to sister facility Auto Alliance Thailand (AAT).

“The shipment of 1,000 petrol engines is a significant first step in our goal to become a major production and export hub of diesel and petrol engines,” Ford India President and Managing Director Michael Boneham said.

Besides the AAT facility, Ford India will export engines to other Ford plants in the Asia-Pacific region. It already caters to facilities in South Africa.

“The number of engines exported will increase to 2,500 per month, and will continue to build as the projected export demand gradually increases through the year-end and into 2011,” the company said.

Ford India has been exporting diesel powertrains from the Indian engine facility, with a production capacity of 2.5 lakh units per annum, to South Africa since 2008.

The Indian subsidiary of the U.S. car major is also exploring export opportunities for vehicles and powertrain components to markets in the Asia Pacific and African regions.

“We are excited about the significant growth opportunities for our engine export programme, and proud of Ford India’s contribution to the development of the local auto industry and the economy overall,” Boneham said.

http://beta.thehindu.com/business/companies/article457825.ece

Global tyre leaders aim to develop India as hub for radial tyres.

Leading tyre manufacturers have lined up investments of about Rs 12,000 crore for the next three to five years to expand capacities and set up greenfield sites for truck and bus radial tyres, as the country faces a scarcity of 2.16 million radial truck tyres a year.

Over 50 per cent of these investments would come from global tyre leaders like Michelin and Bridgestone, as they aim to develop India as a hub for radial tyres to cater to the domestic market, where demand is expected to grow by 15 per cent year-on-year.

Monthly sales of truck and bus tyres are expected to go up to 175,000 units in the next three years from 130,000 to 140,000. According to industry estimates, while original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) need 1.5 million radial truck tyres, after market demand is at 1.2 million. Since the supply is a mere 0.54 million radial truck tyres a year, there is an estimated demand-supply gap of 2.16 million units a year.

“The Indian market is one of the few emerging economies where the bias tyre market is still much more prevalent. However, with the government’s focus on improving road infrastructure, we are confident that the radialisation pace will pick up in the country,” said Prashant Prabhu, president, Africa-India-Middle East, Michelin.

According to Prabhu, Michelin has lined up investments worth Rs 4,000 crore for the next seven years to manufacture truck and bus radials (TBRs) from 2012. India has one of the lowest levels of radicalisation at just five per cent, against the world average of 65 per cent.

Similarly, Apollo Tyres recently set up a new facility in Chennai and expanded production at its Baroda facility at an investment of Rs 2,000 crore, while JK Tyres is expanding capacity at its Mysore plant to 10 lakh units and also setting up a two-lakh capacity in Chennai at an investment of Rs 1,400 crore.

Birla Tyres will pump Rs 1,000 crore into a greenfield site in Uttarakhand, while CEAT Tyres plans to invest Rs 650 crore at Halol (Gujarat). Bridgestone would invest Rs 2,500 crore at its new site in Chakan, Pune and another Rs 170 crore in expanding its existing facility in Indore.

“Even as the road infrastructure develops and improves rapidly, newer generation vehicles are being launched and there is a greater desire amongst transporters to achieve fuel savings by switching to radial truck tyres. Consequently, from levels of two-three per cent a few years back, radialisation has already moved to a level of 10 per cent in India and this is estimated to go up to 15 per cent by the end of 2010 and 25 per cent by 2013,” Satish Sharma, chief (India operations), Apollo Tyres, said.

However, the rising rubber prices have been hitting the profitability margins, which in turn make Indian tyres less competitive, compared to those imported from China. “In the last 18 months itself, natural rubber prices, which accounts for 60 per cent of the total raw material cost for tyres, have gone up by more than 150 per cent and every rupee increase impacts the profitability of the tyre industry by Rs 60 crore,” said Sharma of Apollo Tyres.

“With high rubber prices and the inverted duty structure, our margins continue to be under pressure. As such, unless the government offers protection to the domestic manufacturers, future investments in the sector would be jeopardized,” AS Mehta, director (marketing), JK Tyres, added
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tyre-cos-to-invest-rs-12000-crore-in-next-3-5-years/398273/

^^

Sea port is an important factor. With 2 major sea ports and the NATRIP facility, Chennai is an attraction for any auto major. The only irritant now is labour problem. Peugeot closed its Maharastaa plant a decade back due to labour problem and they are very keen on good labour environemnt now. BTW Peugeot-Citroen has very unique reasons specific to Chennai:
a) Their sourcing office is located in Chennai
b) They have an alliance with Mitsubishi (JV talks failed) which has a plant in Chennai

Hope TN bags the project. It will benefit tier-2 cities in terms of component production.

Govt should speed up Elevated express.,port expansion, train service to oragadam and sri. and also make the road at least four lanes.
If this does not happen within a time frame companies will get fed up and leave TN.

Govt should speed up Elevated express.,port expansion, train service to oragadam and sri. and also make the road at least four lanes.
If this does not happen within a time frame companies will get fed up and leave TN.

Cant agree more. But how can we amplify this message to the politicians and the governments ?? We need to make this message more louder as well as persistent till we get the infra.

Ten years back we promised railway line to Hyundai and Hyundai CEO talks about it every time he gets a chance and so far nothing has been done. Atrocius.

Look at karnataka they are planning to extent HSRL to new formed Devanahalli IT hub to attract investments.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/auto-components/Hyundai-plans-ancillary-units-in-AP/articleshow/6051350.cms

Hyundai plans ancillary units in AP

The company said it will invest Rs 500 crore in the first phase and Rs 700 crore in the second phase. In turn the government will offer 50 acres of land at nominal price in the first phase and same size land in the second phase," B Sam Bob, Principal Secretary (Industries), told PTI here today.

Hyundai CEO Mong Koo Chung has reportedly met Chief Minister K Rosaiah and held discussions in this regard

^^ See they wont go there
Who will go to nellore from chennai daily? This will be just like caparo

^^ See they wont go there
Who will go to nellore from chennai daily? This will be just like caparo

Hyundai will try to make a point here by moving less risky things like spare parts warehouse etc outside TN to warn the labour unions. If this is successful, I am not too optimistic of their next big expansion within TN. With Krishnapatnam port and railway line to Nellore, logistics seem to work out.

Hyundai will try to make a point here by moving less risky things like spare parts warehouse etc outside TN to warn the labour unions. If this is successful, I am not too optimistic of their next big expansion within TN. With Krishnapatnam port and railway line to Nellore, logistics seem to work out.

^^ sure Hyundai wont put all production in one place....after hell of labour problems they will not gather all workers in one place ...then it will be suicide decision for Hyundai..... if workers numbers get increased the voice and demand of workers also will be increased. Those craps will easily go flash strike .... imagine if 20,000 workers go and hit a plant even army difficult to stop them ...but if 1000 it sure possible. Its Management Psychology

Govt should speed up Elevated express.,port expansion, train service to oragadam and sri. and also make the road at least four lanes.
If this does not happen within a time frame companies will get fed up and leave TN.

I am a little skeptical wrt to the elevated port connectivity to Madhuravoyal solving the port connectivity problem for the auto majors in Oragadam.

Though it may solve city side issues and connectivity to GST Road and GNT Road, the stretch between Madhuravoyal - Poonamallee - Motel Highway of NH4 will still pose a huge problem.

A Railroad connecting Chennai, Ennore, L&T Ports to Ennore / Gummidipoondi, villivakkam / Thiruvellore, villiwakkam - kanchipuram - chenglepet via Sriperumpudhur / Oragadam may be a right solution instead of from Avadi / Arakkonam side. It can even be elevated if the acquisition of more space is a constraint.

There is a new porsche showroom in chennai in Chaitanya towers ( building opp to Anna arivalayam) next to Kotak Mahindra bank.

Only Ferrari does not have a showroom in chennai

There is a new porsche showroom in chennai in Chaitanya towers ( building opp to Anna arivalayam) next to Kotak Mahindra bank.

Only Ferrari does not have a showroom in chennai

Does Jaguar have a showroom in chennai?

I am a little skeptical wrt to the elevated port connectivity to Madhuravoyal solving the port connectivity problem for the auto majors in Oragadam.

Though it may solve city side issues and connectivity to GST Road and GNT Road, the stretch between Madhuravoyal - Poonamallee - Motel Highway of NH4 will still pose a huge problem.

A Railroad connecting Chennai, Ennore, L&T Ports to Ennore / Gummidipoondi, villivakkam / Thiruvellore, villiwakkam - kanchipuram - chenglepet via Sriperumpudhur / Oragadam may be a right solution instead of from Avadi / Arakkonam side. It can even be elevated if the acquisition of more space is a constraint.

We need a frieght corridor exclusively to Bangalore from Chennai via sriperumbudur

I am a little skeptical wrt to the elevated port connectivity to Madhuravoyal solving the port connectivity problem for the auto majors in Oragadam.

Though it may solve city side issues and connectivity to GST Road and GNT Road, the stretch between Madhuravoyal - Poonamallee - Motel Highway of NH4 will still pose a huge problem.

A Railroad connecting Chennai, Ennore, L&T Ports to Ennore / Gummidipoondi, villivakkam / Thiruvellore, villiwakkam - kanchipuram - chenglepet via Sriperumpudhur / Oragadam may be a right solution instead of from Avadi / Arakkonam side. It can even be elevated if the acquisition of more space is a constraint.

Well the Port Connectivity is only one part of the solution. Like you rightly observed, there is a definite definite need for a rail link to Sriperumbudur and Oragadam areas. The second Master Plan calls for multiple links.

Another alternative suggestion placed has been Sriperumbudur to Saidapet.

At this level of need, it doesnt matter if it is elevated or not. Port Connectivity seems to be more critical than Passenger connectivity. With so much growth happening, I am sure Metro will consider a link atleast by 2020.

Is it because the TN Government is not able to share the costs ?? Every Railway Budget for the last 10 + yrs, I have been glued seeking some inputs from the Centre, has disappointed.

Kannan, is there a way to amplify this message via your connections at FICCI or CII. We sure need some more visible high profile canvassers. I know even Hyundai CEO has been (t)crying hard. One can imagine Carlos Ghosn to be joining this queue, real soon.

Can this be promoted as a definite campaign message that the local party that promises and canvasses actively for a rail link will get our votes??

^^ Yes. Kannan. Reading reports of congestion at JNPT sends chill down my spine when I think of a similar situation in Chennai when Mega Container terminal comes up. A dedicated freight only rail corridor will be inevitable then.

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=40854

^^ Yes. Kannan. Reading reports of congestion at JNPT sends chill down my spine when I think of a similar situation in Chennai when Mega Container terminal comes up. A dedicated freight only rail corridor will be inevitable then.

There were talks about a Blr - Chennai freight corridor, isn't it - but I think its still in planning stages.

Also, Subra earlier informed the forum (post no.303 in Sriperumbudur and Oragadam Project Update Thread) that SIPCOT has floated a tender for comprehensive infrastructure for Sriperumbudur/Oragadam area. Any further update on it Subra?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704289504575313001827281386.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines

Peoria, Ill.,-based Caterpillar also intends to boost production of heavy-haul mining trucks at assembly plants in Decatur, Ill., and Chennai, India

They better expand..Afghanistan being close to India and now that they found huge treasure of mineral wealth..these heavy duty mining trucks in large nos would be required.

They better expand..Afghanistan being close to India and now that they found huge treasure of mineral wealth..these heavy duty mining trucks in large nos would be required.

Ya its very huge USD $1.0 Trillion ......... If it found in india...and some in TN.... :nuts:... actually jarkand, orisaa got lot of Minerals ...but Maoists ?...Bad Maoists..Bad Maoists... :ohno:

Cat. major operations are in Hosur, Chennai plant is a small one.

I once had an opportunity to visit Peoria Illionois, when I was in Chicago and Cat. has a huge huge plant and the total down is based on Cat. operations.

...but Maoists ?...Bad Maoists..Bad Maoists... :ohno:

:lol::lol: That's cute..

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Ford-workers-seek-government-intervention/articleshow/6064521.cms

CHENNAI: The newly-formed employees union at Ford India has sought the government's intervention in making the car company start negotiations with
it.

"We have sent a letter to the Deputy Commissioner of Labour requesting him to take necessary action so that Ford India starts negotiations with our union," Ford India Employees Union general secretary A. Satish Kumar told IANS.

Kumar said the union was formed nearly a month ago and the company was informed about it through post. :bash:

Like all other multinational corporations, Ford India has a Workers Committee that takes up the workers' issues with the management and get it solved.

"We continuously engage in and encourage open dialogue between employees and management. We are pleased that the partnership among all employees contributes to the growing success of Ford India. We prefer to keep these employee-management discussions internal, which respects their confidentiality," President and Managing Director of Ford India Michael Boneham told IANS.

It is a second coming for the workers union at Ford India. In 2003, the workers did form a union but it was not registered.

About FIEMU's demands, Kumar said: "The current practise of debiting our leave account on days when the plant is shut down for maintenance should be stopped. Similarly, the workers should not be forced to compensate for the 10-minute tea break time taken."

He said Ford India at its Maraimalai Nagar plant has around 3,000 workers out of which around 1,200 are permanent workers.

The company is in the process of hiring another 1,000 workers so that it can start running second shift owing to the increased orders for its new small car Figo.

"The new recruits will mostly be apprentices. It is also a worrying factor. The ratio of permanent workers to other class of workers (apprentices, casual workers) is as such skewed in favour of the latter and there is a sense of job insecurity amongst our members," he said.
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Wow...what an encouraging news after the Hyundai strike. Not sure why we are taking the wrong path when the auto industry just started booming.

donno whether this is already posted ... Today saw a new PORSCHE car showroom at Mount road near ramee mall [opp side] ..guess this is the first one !...

http://i48.tinypic.com/23hq7fa.jpg

Tamilnadu MPs and the present Govt, with the help of the industrial lobby can easily force the Centre esp the Railway ministry for a freight corridor connecting all the three Ports to Oragadam.

There seem to be more technical and operational issues than financial issues. When PMK's Velu was the MoS, he actually tried hard. Then the Railway guys said that the connectivity is possible only from Arakkonam line and not a new one. Some Feasibility study has been done for this, it seems.

There are Beach Tambaram Chenglepet Line, Chenglepet Kancheepuram Line, Central Thiruvallur Bangalore / Coimbatore / Kerala Line, Central Gummidipoondi Kolkotha / Delhi / Mumbai Line in operation apart from the Port, Royapuram Basin Bridge Line.

Probably the Railways thinks it is easier to connect all the radial lines with a ring line (like our Ring Roads).

The cost of any new line is prohibitively very high. Acquiring Land becomes more and more difficult day by day. The local Govts and municipal bodies have to be pro active to accomplish the same. Many of the new projects have to be done only on sharing basis by Central and State.

The route from the port to Sriperumpudhur is one of the most densely populated corridors in Chennai and many people related issues may arise.

But if the new connectivity is going to benefit the state immensely, solutions have to be found by all the stake holders - the technocrats, financial wizards, politicians and industrialists.

With a demand for the new Greenfield Airport near St Gobain picking up, this route may acquire more urgency.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Ford-workers-seek-government-intervention/articleshow/6064521.cms

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Wow...what an encouraging news after the Hyundai strike. Not sure why we are taking the wrong path when the auto industry just started booming.


When i said earlier no body believe... no see your self....our indian commniusts are working for China...then do everything to hammper indias growth...as chennai Auto industry growing faster than china...now china might already asked our indian Communits to target chennai..... so now its coming one by one............

I hate low educated and poor workers...they never think about country or the youngters who need job to live....they will go for strike for every silly reasons....see here they are talking about that 10 mins tea break time as an issue.... i already said Hyundai workers started problem by demanding Non Veg meals ... Most of our people don't understand the global market situtation now.... there are so many countries to choose for these investers...

Note my words this will spread soon and going to show the word that Chennai is not a Manufacturing hub ...but its a problem hub... :ohno:

When i said earlier no body believe... no see your self....our indian commniusts are working for China...then do everything to hammper indias growth...as chennai Auto industry growing faster than china...now china might already asked our indian Communits to target chennai..... so now its coming one by one............

I hate low educated and poor workers...they never think about country or the youngters who need job to live....they will go for strike for every silly reasons....see here they are talking about that 10 mins tea break time as an issue.... i already said Hyundai workers started problem by demanding Non Veg meals ... Most of our people don't understand the global market situtation now.... there are so many countries to choose for these investers...

Note my words this will spread soon and going to show the word that Chennai is not a Manufacturing hub ...but its a problem hub... :ohno:
Chennai is not the only automobile hub but there are also near delhi ,pune and to some extent in Rajasthan,Gujarat and Bangalore.U mean the industrial work force in chennai are irresponsible and therefore threatening to go on strike for the flimsiest of reasons and the workforce elsewhere in India are smart and matured and not influenced by the indian communists at the instance of china.U r write these communists will fiddle in Vulnerable industrial pockets prone to frequent labor unrest for siliest reasons and chennai is fertile ground for them to regroup.

Chennai is not the only automobile hub but there are also near delhi ,pune and to some extent in Rajasthan,Gujarat and Bangalore.U mean the industrial work force in chennai are irresponsible and therefore threatening to go on strike for the flimsiest of reasons and the workforce elsewhere in India are smart and matured and not influenced by the indian communists at the instance of china.U r write these communists will fiddle in Vulnerable industrial pockets prone to frequent labor unrest for siliest reasons and chennai is fertile ground for them to regroup.

There is no doubt ...sure not only Chennai but the whole India workforce are irresponsible (Especially low educated and low skilled workers)......... I am not comparing with chennai to delhi ...for me anywhere in india if these kind of problem comes its show the world as "Problem India" not just "Problem Chennai or Delhi" ...........compared to WB or Kerala these communists can't get instant success in chennai.... but as our labour workforce increasing tremendously now they find way to do all damage....

When Nano Exit from WB ..that becomes a head news all over the world and they hardly mentioned about WB..they only said "India is not investor Friendly" ...these kind "Brand Name damage" costs billions of money and millions of jobs which we cant see....

I can give you 100's of reasons why i say india's workforce are very rude, irresponsible, mass rowdies, selfish..etc..... for all the above the one and only culprit are COMMUNISTS

^^ Not exactly, the main culprit is Level of Education. In India, whatever problem we have, anything can be grouped into two main problems. One is population and other is education. As simple as that.

http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-49490120100621

Citing unnamed sources, CNBC TV18 said General Motors, Mitsubishi Motors Corp and Isuzu Motors Ltd had started preliminary negotiations separately for buying a holding

CNBC TV-18 said the company's plant in Chennai, with a annual capacity of 12,000 vehicles, was a likely target for acquisition.

http://www.rushlane.com/126464/kia-motors-seeks-presence-in-indian-market.html

Some media reports claimed that KM is in talks with various state governments for obtaining a land in India and has been in association with senior industry department officials in Tamil Nadu.
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Not sure how accurate is this report. The following are few new players who are looking to enter Indian market.
1) Kia
2) Peugeot-Citroen
3) Proton
4) Few Chinese Auto companies

^^ Subra: Any idea what happened to the other Malaysian company, Naza Motors? They had plans for a Chennai plant too, right? Has that been shelved or is it still a possibility?

And re. Kia, one can hope that the presence of their Korean sibling, Hyundai may help swing them towards Chennai.. Although, of course, Hyundai's labour troubles in the recent past might well act as a deterrent..

Fingers crossed anyway.. :)

^^ Subra: Any idea what happened to the other Malaysian company, Naza Motors? They had plans for a Chennai plant too, right? Has that been shelved or is it still a possibility?

And re. Kia, one can hope that the presence of their Korean sibling, Hyundai may help swing them towards Chennai.. Although, of course, Hyundai's labour troubles in the recent past might well act as a deterrent..

Fingers crossed anyway.. :)

True.Oflate top Hyundai company officials are meeting top govt officials in A.P.According to local news media top officials of Hyundai met C.M Rosiah with regard to assistance for setting up their spare parts and diesel engine plant with an investment of over Rs1500 crores.The response and concessions offered was very satisfying for the Hyundai officials.

^^I wish the Country Specific Zones which TN govt is talking abt is implemented soon. Generally, Korean companies prefer to be situated in a same place and bring along with them the ancillary industries (majority korean companies). A Korean CSZ would help bring all these guys to Chennai / TN.

As i said Before ...

1) Now china's workers unrest situation created urgent requirement to increase their pay from 30% to 70%

2) China's fake currency value is now slowly started to adjust.... many economist saying its value should increase 30% to 40%.... now china increase only around 4% ... But the world is pushing china very hard...i think by this year end they will increase its value up to 15%.

Both points will increase china's manufacturing cost up to 30% (I hope) with in a year or two........... So at the End India will get major Competitive advantage in Manufacturing, Textile, Leather, Agri, Tea, Coffee, ...etc....

So as Chennai as Manufacturing hub of India it will take a big share :cheers:.........all we need is to rush infrastructure development ...like rail routes, roads, power especially in Industrial corridor to take that big share...........We can't get a chance then.........Especially DELL already start to export Notebooks from Chennai saying its cheaper than china, hope next Nokia, Samsung..etc. Lets finger crossed.

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News Link here (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/India-happy-over-Chinas-currency-move-Pranab-/articleshow/6079414.cms)

WASHINGTON: India has welcomed China's decision to make its currency more flexible, saying it would help world trade.

"India is happy over China's announcement for its flexible policy as far its currency, Yuan, is concerned," Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee said in response to a question at an interactive at a joint meeting India-US CEOs Forum here Monday.

"I am hopeful that China will follow the policy keeping in view the interest of the world economy," he said.

China has been criticised for keeping the yuan artificially undervalued to give the country an unfair advantage in international trade.

It is now believed that a stronger yuan will give the Chinese more purchasing power to buy foreign goods, which is good for world trade.

The People's Bank of China last weekend said that it would allow more flexibility in the Yuan, sending markets and currency based instruments soaring world over.

China's decision comes ahead of the G-20 meet in Toronto June 26-27, where the move is expected to ease pressure on the country when it comes to removing restrictive trade practices and bring in structural reforms in the financial sector.

^^ Subra: Any idea what happened to the other Malaysian company, Naza Motors? They had plans for a Chennai plant too, right? Has that been shelved or is it still a possibility?

And re. Kia, one can hope that the presence of their Korean sibling, Hyundai may help swing them towards Chennai.. Although, of course, Hyundai's labour troubles in the recent past might well act as a deterrent..

Fingers crossed anyway.. :)

No news after their initial proposal. Looks like its shelved. They were looking to create a car plant for contract manufacturing for other players.

http://www.rushlane.com/126464/kia-motors-seeks-presence-in-indian-market.html

Some media reports claimed that KM is in talks with various state governments for obtaining a land in India and has been in association with senior industry department officials in Tamil Nadu.
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Not sure how accurate is this report. The following are few new players who are looking to enter Indian market.
1) Kia
2) Peugeot-Citroen
3) Proton
4) Few Chinese Auto companies

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/06/24/2010062400413.html

Kia Motors is seeking to build a plant in India to produce 300,000 vehicles a year starting from 2012, the automaker said Wednesday.

"We're conducting a feasibility study to select a site for the plant near Chennai," a Kia spokesperson said. "Based on data from Hyundai Motor which entered the Indian market in 1998, we're estimating costs and time to build the plant, as well as examining demand forecasts and Hyundai's sales figures there," he added.

Hyundai currently operates two plants in Chennai with a combined annual output of 600,000 cars. Of the 560,000 units produced at the plants last year, Hyundai sold 290,000 in India, grabbing a 20-percent share of the market.

Kia's move has been apparently motivated by its wish to find an alternative market to Europe, the destination of the majority of its exports, where demand has been sluggish due to the recession.

Some 1.4 million passenger cars were sold in India last year, compared to 1.1 million units sold here. The Indian auto market is expected to grow to 3 million units by 2015 to become the world's fourth largest, trailing only China, the U.S. and Japan.
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Not sure if the site near Chennai is within TN or in Nellore, AP :)

Nice find Subra as usual! If they do feasiblity study then Oragadam/Sri Perumputhur belt would stand good chance.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/06/24/2010062400413.html

Kia Motors is seeking to build a plant in India to produce 300,000 vehicles a year starting from 2012, the automaker said Wednesday.

"We're conducting a feasibility study to select a site for the plant near Chennai," a Kia spokesperson said. "Based on data from Hyundai Motor which entered the Indian market in 1998, we're estimating costs and time to build the plant, as well as examining demand forecasts and Hyundai's sales figures there," he added.

Hyundai currently operates two plants in Chennai with a combined annual output of 600,000 cars. Of the 560,000 units produced at the plants last year, Hyundai sold 290,000 in India, grabbing a 20-percent share of the market.

Kia's move has been apparently motivated by its wish to find an alternative market to Europe, the destination of the majority of its exports, where demand has been sluggish due to the recession.

Some 1.4 million passenger cars were sold in India last year, compared to 1.1 million units sold here. The Indian auto market is expected to grow to 3 million units by 2015 to become the world's fourth largest, trailing only China, the U.S. and Japan.
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Not sure if the site near Chennai is within TN or in Nellore, AP :)

As they are taking Hyundai as case study for the project the recent strike might given them a negative impression to start up a plant in and around Chennai / TN and again as Hyundai is looking at Nellore for their spare parts plant....this might influence decisions of Kia motors also...who knows.

As they are taking Hyundai as case study for the project the recent strike might given them a negative impression to start up a plant in and around Chennai / TN and again as Hyundai is looking at Nellore for their spare parts plant....this might influence decisions of Kia motors also...who knows.


As hyundai is the major share holder of KIA.... i think its Hyundai is the one to decide to bring KIA to chennai or not........... If there is no hyundai workers problem they suppose to bring it to chhenai ....but now Most probably they wont.... :bash: ...they already trying to reduce or stop chennai expansion...

see the Link below or just Google it ...Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Kia_Automotive_Group)

As hyundai is the major share holder of KIA.... i think its Hyundai is the one to decide to bring KIA to chennai or not........... If there is no hyundai workers problem they suppose to bring it to chhenai ....but now Most probably they wont.... :bash: ...they already trying to reduce or stop chennai expansion...

see the Link below or just Google it ...Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Kia_Automotive_Group)

They will have this labour problem all over india irrespective of locations, people and their attitudes are same all over India.

With these many factories, the TN government should start imposing rules like compulsory solar panels in new and existing factories

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_korea-s-kia-motors-mulling-chennai-plant_1400892
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More on Kia's plans for Chennai...
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Mumbai: Kia Motors, the second-largest carmaker of South Korea, is planning to make its way into the Indian market, according to a news report in the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo.

The report stated Kia Motors, in which Hyundai Motor Company holds about 35% stake, is seeking to build a plant in India to produce 3 lakh vehicles a year, starting from 2012.

“We’re conducting a feasibility study to select a site for the plant near Chennai,” the report quoted a Kia spokesperson as saying.

“Based on data from Hyundai Motor, which entered the Indian market in 1998, we’re estimating costs and time to build the plant, as well as examining demand forecasts and Hyundai’s sales figures there,” the spokesperson added.

It is believed that Kia’s move has been motivated by its wish to find an alternative market to Europe, the destination of the majority of its exports, where demand has been sluggish owing to the recession.

However, when DNA Money contacted Kia’s Asia-Pacific headquarters, a spokesperson , who did not wish to be named, denied any plans for India.

According to industry experts, a plant with a capacity of 3 lakh units annually should cost around Rs 4,500 crore. Since most of the ground work is already done for Kia due to the presence of Hyundai, it would not have to make large investments for its vendor base and distribution network.

However, since the brand is new to India, the company would typically look at an investment of Rs 400-500 crore in brand building and an additional Rs 1000 crore would have to be shelled out by the ancillary units to ramp up capacity to meet additional demand from Kia.

In August last year, on the sidelines of the Auto Expo, the earlier managing director of Hyundai Motor India, H S Lheem had mentioned that the company’s research and development facility in Hyderabad will not only cater to its (Hyundai’s) future models but also those of its sister concern, Kia Motors.

Kia, which has range of around 20 products in its portfolio right from passenger cars to SUV/vans to commercial vehicles, is likely to bring in its compact cars and SUVs to the Indian market. The company sold 8.2 lakh vehicles worldwide in January-May 2010.

A to Z of Ford plant and detailed report including testing facility(must see).

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/82157-pics-fords-chennai-factory-detailed-report-making-figos-fiestas.html

^^ Nice and useful share...thx

A to Z of Ford plant and detailed report including testing facility(must see).

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/82157-pics-fords-chennai-factory-detailed-report-making-figos-fiestas.html

:cheers: Great photos.

A to Z of Ford plant and detailed report including testing facility(must see).

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/82157-pics-fords-chennai-factory-detailed-report-making-figos-fiestas.html


Fantastic photos dude!!! Thx for sharing the link!! I really enjoyed it!!

And this the first time I know that engines are also made inside. Until now I was thinking that engines were imported!! Only the body parts are being made & later assembled with the engine. On seeing this photos I understood that I am wrong!!!

Once again, thanks dude!!

Fantastic photos dude!!! Thx for sharing the link!! I really enjoyed it!!

And this the first time I know that engines are also made inside. Until now I was thinking that engines were imported!! Only the body parts are being made & later assembled with the engine. On seeing this photos I understood that I am wrong!!!

Once again, thanks dude!!

The engine plant was started close to a 2 years back at Ford India. Till then the 1.4 diesel engine was imported and 1.3 petrol was sourced from Avtec,Pitampur. Now the 1.4 diesel engine(figo/fiesta/ikon) and the 1.2 Petrol engine for figo is made inside the plant. The diesel engines are exported as well from the plant.


Regards,
Subbu

I don't know how TN want to study from a failed and Investor scared state Model ....:bash:.......For sure in India these Unions will make more troubles only..... Already more and more economist are saying Labour law in india is too bad for investors now u want to make it more bad ???....... The wolrd known slogan "In India if you hire one ...meaning you are hiring him for life"

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Labour unrest puts focus on laws (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Chennai/Labour-unrest-puts-focus-on-laws/articleshow/6099536.cms)

CHENNAI: With most multinational corporations (MNCs) operating in the state refusing to accept trade unions, Tamil Nadu is mulling a new law, along the lines of Maharashtra and West Bengal, to make it mandatory for companies to recognize trade unions. :ohno::ohno:

The state labour department will soon form a committee to look into labour laws. It will also depute a team of joint commissioners of labour to visit West Bengal :doh: and Maharashtra to study their labour models and submit a report within three to four months, labour secretary Prabhakar Rao told The Times of India.

At present, TN laws do not mandate compulsory recognition of any trade union in a company. Multinationals prefer to manage labour relations through 'works committees ' which have representatives from various departments in the company, but the committees are sometimes seen as merely safeguarding the management's interest, resulting in more friction.

Industrial areas across the state have been in ferment in recent times. Last September, some labourers at Pricol's Coimbatore plant killed the vice-president following a strike over pay and other disputes. In the last year alone, MNCs such as Nokia and Ford have faced strikes or labour unrest.

The state's biggest investor, Hyundai Motor India Ltd, has faced several strikes by members of Hyundai Motor India Employees Union, backed by CITU, (the chinese workers:bash:)which claims to have more support from employees than the 'works committee' put in place by the company.

In January, Nokia employees at its plant in Sriperumbudur went on strike to protest against the suspension of over 50 workers following a disagreement with the management.

"We are verifying models in West Bengal and Maharashtra. In Maharashtra, the labour unions with the most members get recognized, while in West Bengal, unions are recognised through a secret ballot system. In places like Karnataka and Haryana, which are also quite industrialised, there are no such labour provisions yet they are not facing any problems. We will look at all these issues and frame suitable guidelines," the labour secretary said. Once the report is filed, the state will take an appropriate decision, he added.

However, officials of some companies say forced recognition of trade unions will make the state less attractive for companies. "We came to TN after considering various laws. After committing our investments, if the government goes ahead with forceful recognition of unions, it would be tantamount to moving the goal post half way through the game," an official with an MNC said.

Trade unionists have a different view. "Having a union is a fundamental right. The state labour advisory board comprises members of five unions, representative of management of companies and the government. We have recommended to the government that the unions be recognized by the managements," said A Soundararajan of CITU.

According to the labour ministry, strikes in manufacturing and service companies across the country rose 48% in 2008 from the year before.

I don't know how TN want to study from a failed and Investor scared state Model ....:bash:.......For sure in India these Unions will make more troubles only..... Already more and more economist are saying Labour law in india is too bad for investors now u want to make it more bad ???....... The wolrd known slogan "In India if you hire one ...meaning you are hiring him for life"

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Labour unrest puts focus on laws (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Chennai/Labour-unrest-puts-focus-on-laws/articleshow/6099536.cms)

CHENNAI: With most multinational corporations (MNCs) operating in the state refusing to accept trade unions, Tamil Nadu is mulling a new law, along the lines of Maharashtra and West Bengal, to make it mandatory for companies to recognize trade unions. :ohno::ohno:

The state labour department will soon form a committee to look into labour laws. It will also depute a team of joint commissioners of labour to visit West Bengal :doh: and Maharashtra to study their labour models and submit a report within three to four months, labour secretary Prabhakar Rao told The Times of India.

At present, TN laws do not mandate compulsory recognition of any trade union in a company. Multinationals prefer to manage labour relations through 'works committees ' which have representatives from various departments in the company, but the committees are sometimes seen as merely safeguarding the management's interest, resulting in more friction.

Industrial areas across the state have been in ferment in recent times. Last September, some labourers at Pricol's Coimbatore plant killed the vice-president following a strike over pay and other disputes. In the last year alone, MNCs such as Nokia and Ford have faced strikes or labour unrest.

The state's biggest investor, Hyundai Motor India Ltd, has faced several strikes by members of Hyundai Motor India Employees Union, backed by CITU, (the chinese workers:bash:)which claims to have more support from employees than the 'works committee' put in place by the company.

In January, Nokia employees at its plant in Sriperumbudur went on strike to protest against the suspension of over 50 workers following a disagreement with the management.

"We are verifying models in West Bengal and Maharashtra. In Maharashtra, the labour unions with the most members get recognized, while in West Bengal, unions are recognised through a secret ballot system. In places like Karnataka and Haryana, which are also quite industrialised, there are no such labour provisions yet they are not facing any problems. We will look at all these issues and frame suitable guidelines," the labour secretary said. Once the report is filed, the state will take an appropriate decision, he added.

However, officials of some companies say forced recognition of trade unions will make the state less attractive for companies. "We came to TN after considering various laws. After committing our investments, if the government goes ahead with forceful recognition of unions, it would be tantamount to moving the goal post half way through the game," an official with an MNC said.

Trade unionists have a different view. "Having a union is a fundamental right. The state labour advisory board comprises members of five unions, representative of management of companies and the government. We have recommended to the government that the unions be recognized by the managements," said A Soundararajan of CITU.

According to the labour ministry, strikes in manufacturing and service companies across the country rose 48% in 2008 from the year before.

It it happens no one can save tn
why don't they follow what gujarat does

A gr8 TN mind has invited trouble for TN automobile industry. This move will take us another 10 yrs back wards.
Congrats govt for taking such worker friendly initiative. They will ask for wages for even conducting strike (other than non-veg and other silly demands).



It it happens no one can save tn
why don't they follow what gujarat does

Ranga: Eagerly waiting for your inputs on the latest developments in this thread (labour laws/models to be reviewed - with WB as the model). I think you will put the final nail on the coffin of the present TN govt :-)

List of Automotive Test tracks in and around Chennai:

For captive use:
1. Ford Test track
2. Hyundai Test tracks.
3. Ashok Leyland Technical Centre. (The most versatile one).
4. Daimler Heavy Commercial Vehicles Test track. (Most state of the art).
5. Heavy Battle Tanks test track(Avadi)

For commercial use:
Global Automotive Research Centre, Oragadam.(Under construction)

Apart from this there are the test stretches of Komatsu Mining equipments and BMW. Also I have little idea about the Renault-Nissan Test facility.
Sholavaram is a defunct one and Irungattukottai is used only for racing ourposes.

SOURCE: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/06/29/stories/2010062953010200.htm (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/06/29/stories/2010062953010200.htm)

Move will help company meet rise in local demand.

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In the case of TI's China operations, it was clear the company could not “handle pricing”, says Mr M.M. Murugappan, Chairman, Tube Investments
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For Tube Investments of India, closing down China operations has in a way come in handy – the company has shipped its plant and machinery to Chennai, where the company is facing capacity constraints.

According to the company's Managing Director, Mr L. Ramkumar, the equipment for making cold-drawn welded tubes, worth about Rs 25 crore, is being installed at the company's Chennai plant. The demand from the automotive industry – a major consumer of TI's tubes – is soaring and the company is today constrained by capacity.

TI supplies tubes and door frames to the automotive sector. The tubes business was Rs 861 crore in 2008-09. In 2009-10, this business enjoyed a 20 per cent increase in volume terms, though there was no big jump in revenue terms. The current year continues to see a surge in demand.

“We are getting more orders than we can supply,” Mr Ramkumar told Business Line on Monday.

This is where the plant from China has come in handy.

The china story

Last year, two of the Murugappa group companies revisited their (fledgling) operations in China. While the Rs 3,100-crore TI shut its China operations (and booked a loss of Rs 40 crore), Carborundum Universal exited a joint venture and began operating there on its own.

Mr M.M. Murugappan, who heads both TI and Carborundum, told Business Line that in the case of TI's China operations, it was clear the company could not “handle pricing”. (CDW tubes are of a higher technology and are consequently sold at a premium to non-CDW tubes, but the market was not prepared to pay the premium, Business Line learns.) Also, in the thick of the global recession, potential customers did not want to try out a new vendor (TI), he said.

However, in the case of the Rs 738-crore Carborundum, which had formed a joint venture with China Metallurgical Geology Bureau (CMGB), the issue was different.

While the Chinese wanted to continue in the “investment mode,” the Murugappa group wanted the operations of the joint venture to first produce returns.

Mr Murugappan stressed that the Murugappa group continues to have excellent relationship with the Chinese. Carborundum had known CMGB for many years, as it was buying diamond tools from the Chinese company. “We still continue to be their largest customer,” Mr Murugappan.

Business Line had heard that Carborundum had issues with CMGB over the latter “agreeing to one thing at the board meeting and doing another thing outside,” but Mr Murugappan dismissed such reports.

He said while there may have been some “minor infringements of board decisions” the relationship was, and continues, to be cordial.

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Is it a case of Chennai beating China OR China beating Murugappa ;).. Either case GO CHENNAI.

folks, any idea, why ICF is not part of metro coach building activities? don't they have enuf expertise?

Ranga: Eagerly waiting for your inputs on the latest developments in this thread (labour laws/models to be reviewed - with WB as the model). I think you will put the final nail on the coffin of the present TN govt :-)

I am quiet surprised to see this news didn't attract much people here ??? I think most of you either didn't understand the actual dimension of this problem or hate this news until don't want to discuss :lol:

Anyway i Hope we can see lot of union problems and industry close down same like WB...... After reach the same WB status then Tamil nadu will study from "Bihar Model" .... :nuts:

^^ I think people are losing hope on TN because of the current Govt and its policies. Its not the current Govt...the Dravidian political parties aren't doing good to TN anymore. There was a time when they really brought up TN...not anymore. :bash:

Too much of family politics, freebies and leftist policies preventing privatization of areas where the rest of the country acted long back like airports.

Before TI expansion, the management should tell the workers whether there will be veg/non-veg meal.

All the workers should be made permanent (whether they work/not). Labour laws will talk abt accomodation/only 8 hrs/bonus (whether they make profit /not). Go Chennai, Go, way to go to the bottom of the chart.

We have so many Industries in TN run by Indian promoters. Some might have faced strikes.many might not have. Problems were solved with mutual consent and they all continue to thrive. It all depends on good Good Human Relations policy;

Now you don't question the formation of a trade Union as it may be the workers right to have an organised set up for negotiation. Even IAS officers have an association. You industrialise your State to increase the GDP and bring prosperity to its Citizens. You don't bring Nissan,Ford,Komatsu etc just for the Elite of the Society to feel Proud of Brand names. The benefit should reflect on the society-their workers atleast. The workers should feel proud of their Company.

There is no need to have these companies if they treat locals as beggars. The Gangaikondan Tyre co., paying Rs 120 per 12 hour shift and keeping all employees as temporary as daily wagers is nothing but exploitation and simply should not be tolerated.India Cements nearby is operating for may be 4-5 decades without much problem.

Here there is a problem with TN Govt and other Indian states.In order to attract Investments they tend to say "We are CHEAP". You can find somewhere in a TN document,labour cost is given as Rs 3000 per month. You don't expect your Citizens with a Diplomo or a Trade qualification to lower themselves to that level. In Coimbatore,a CNC machine Operator even in a small Industry is paid Rs8000-10,000 pm. We pay Rs 5000 for our watchman, a docile job compared to muscle straining jobs in Manufacturing industries.

MNCs should offer atleast Rs8000 pm as minimum salary for 160 hours work, treat workers as your asset,earn your profit after seeing a smile on their faces.

I only wish they encourage their workers to form an Independant registered Union, keeping away Political outfits.

We have so many Industries in TN run by Indian promoters. Some might have faced strikes.many might not have. Problems were solved with mutual consent and they all continue to thrive. It all depends on good Good Human Relations policy;

Now you don't question the formation of a trade Union as it may be the workers right to have an organised set up for negotiation. Even IAS officers have an association. You industrialise your State to increase the GDP and bring prosperity to its Citizens. You don't bring Nissan,Ford,Komatsu etc just for the Elite of the Society to feel Proud of Brand names. The benefit should reflect on the society-their workers atleast. The workers should feel proud of their Company.

There is no need to have these companies if they treat locals as beggars. The Gangaikondan Tyre co., paying Rs 120 per 12 hour shift and keeping all employees as temporary as daily wagers is nothing but exploitation and simply should not be tolerated.India Cements nearby is operating for may be 4-5 decades without much problem.

Here there is a problem with TN Govt and other Indian states.In order to attract Investments they tend to say "We are CHEAP". You can find somewhere in a TN document,labour cost is given as Rs 3000 per month. You don't expect your Citizens with a Diplomo or a Trade qualification to lower themselves to that level. In Coimbatore,a CNC machine Operator even in a small Industry is paid Rs8000-10,000 pm. We pay Rs 5000 for our watchman, a docile job compared to muscle straining jobs in Manufacturing industries.

MNCs should offer atleast Rs8000 pm as minimum salary for 160 hours work, treat workers as your asset,earn your profit after seeing a smile on their faces.

I only wish they encourage their workers to form an Independant registered Union, keeping away Political outfits.

I agree to the point but do you think all the unions really fight for causes like these?
Hyundai pays good for its employees but they always strike for unneccesary reasons due to political mileage

^^ The salary for Hyundai technicians are the highest in the Indian industry.

We have so many Industries in TN run by Indian promoters. Some might have faced strikes.many might not have. Problems were solved with mutual consent and they all continue to thrive. It all depends on good Good Human Relations policy;

Oh really ?? Is Pricol or that gurgon company solved the problem so nicely ? Did your so honest union acted in such a decent way ?? Did you forgot how those rowdies killed those people??? If any management staff killed a worker what will happen ?? Do you know even after this murder the CITU demanding release those union criminals and delete the case ??? Are these criminals innocents ? Do you know this news how much damaged India's image from USA to Pakistan ??

Now you don't question the formation of a trade Union as it may be the workers right to have an organised set up for negotiation. Even IAS officers have an association. You industrialise your State to increase the GDP and bring prosperity to its Citizens. You don't bring Nissan,Ford,Komatsu etc just for the Elite of the Society to feel Proud of Brand names. The benefit should reflect on the society-their workers atleast. The workers should feel proud of their Company.

You Totally totally totally wrong !! countries give tax benefits, spent millions of money and bring those industries not just only for a good and easy life of those worker who work there... there are much much bigger thing to which is more important..

1. workers work in those industry called direct workers... but there are 3 to 5 times workers work outside as Indirect workers, who work in those supplier industries....

2. These big industries are called "Mother Industry" which going to feed lot of medium and small industries and going to create lot of entrepreneurs who are the main force to create millions of jobs for poor and rural peoples.

3. To show the world that this country or this state is good to invest and so that the final goal is to bring more investments and to create more and more jobs.............. In TN alone every year more than 2~3 laks BE & Poly students graduate, then art & science ??? How TN going to create job for many people every year ??

So count now you want to kill all the above 3 points for the "direct workers" easy life ?? or You are going to control these direct workers then make sure those 3 points goes well ?? Its not mean you are going to give them unfair rights... compare the case 9 out of 10 there is no reasonable request from unions, all are seems like just for the sake of get CITU a big image only.

There is no need to have these companies if they treat locals as beggars. The Gangaikondan Tyre co., paying Rs 120 per 12 hour shift and keeping all employees as temporary as daily wagers is nothing but exploitation and simply should not be tolerated.India Cements nearby is operating for may be 4-5 decades without much problem.

You are right, there are some genuine case ...but its rare in big or mother industries. Its mostly happens in small and medium scale industries. In many developed and industrialized countries they solve and safe guard workers right through govt...if those above happen even in india by law the workers can complain to labour ministry...if you say indian labor ministry not works well then blame them ...... but the actual case here is different

1. HYUNDAI workers Problem : Workers started to demand silly things at first Non-veg meals, Air Con Bus....but no company provide Air con bus in india for contract workers...after all the management see "Cost to Company" for each employee. SO there is no real demand for salary, bonus, safety ..etc... now few workers damaged company properties like riots, attacked some security staff ... so Hyundai dismissed those contract workers. And now the CITU going for frequent strikes and ask to reappoint those dismissed workers !! Is that is a company or Picnic spot ??

2. Nokia: Salary and Bonus are very good compared to market, safety is fantastic, workerws benefits are good too....but still lot of clashes and demand for unions.

3. Ford: Salary, benefits, safety..everything good....now workers already indirectly mentioned they will go strike soon... main demand to give free 10min tea break. Is this is such a big issue to freez the company which gives all such benefits ? Remb 10min per worker is small for that worker...but if it combined to 10,000 workers its a 1667 hrs extra pay per day for that company , which is a huge money for them.

4. Pricol: One of best salary package in india....huge bonus, good safety....still workers went for strike. Few workers come to company and refuse to do any work and disturb others too ...so management dismissed those workers...and end up they killed the Management staff...... Now CITU demand to release those murderers...

All the above news came in international media and showing the world India (esp TN) worst place to invest.


Here there is a problem with TN Govt and other Indian states.In order to attract Investments they tend to say "We are CHEAP". You can find somewhere in a TN document,labour cost is given as Rs 3000 per month. You don't expect your Citizens with a Diplomo or a Trade qualification to lower themselves to that level. In Coimbatore,a CNC machine Operator even in a small Industry is paid Rs8000-10,000 pm. We pay Rs 5000 for our watchman, a docile job compared to muscle straining jobs in Manufacturing industries.

MNCs should offer atleast Rs8000 pm as minimum salary for 160 hours work, treat workers as your asset,earn your profit after seeing a smile on their faces.

1. Of course India will try to keep india as " Cheap but quality destination" that's our competitive edge. Don't expect a Europe company to come and open shop here to export to Europe if India is costlier than other better place. But India never pay workers life a price for that.....see what happens in china ...in china Honda, Foxconn workers went to strike ..the main reason no salary increment for five years, very very low pay (Rs 5000), no safety lot accidents, military style management...etc.

2. I think you not ware that already most of the MNC's Paying more than Rs 8000 to workers. I think hyundai paying around 12 ~ 14 k for ITI holders.


I only wish they encourage their workers to form an Independant registered Union, keeping away Political outfits.

There is already a independent workers committee there in hyundai, ford...etc... But all these problems comes only after CITU successfully brain washed few workers and asking for unions........ CITU need strikes, problems ...etc to pretend like they take care the workers and to get the vote bank..... there is no independent workers union in india. If it is there then there is no prob.

^^ The salary for Hyundai technicians are the highest in the Indian industry.

"Technicians" is not a very descriptive word....Can you please describe as to how much years of experience & what educational qualifications (ITI, B.E ?) does a typical Hyundai technician in Chennai plant need to possess for him to earn a 'good' salary...(would a 'good' salary mean a 5 digit salary..say less than 20K ?) ?.

I am aware of people in surrounding areas of Kundrathur & Kanchipuram who are working as temp. employees for a some period of time @ Hyundai and they are technicians too and they seem to be getting 4 digit salary (according to them).

Is anybody aware of how many permanent workers & how many temp. workers are employed at Hyundai plant in Chennai ?.

Thanks In Advance.

source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIH/2010/06/30&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00200&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T


.......... But nobody seems to know why the much-hyped multi-crore auto component plant announced by the Caparo Group (of Swraj Paul) in Tada near Nellore simply walked out recently. .................

This article claims CAPARO has moved out of TADA (out of AP too). Any idea where they have finally decided to relocate?

Have a look at the article written in rediff about Chennai auto industry!!


http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/jun/30/slide-show-1-auto-is-chennai-the-detroit-of-asia.htm

http://im.rediff.com/money/2010/jun/30detroit1.jpg
Image: Hyundai cars ready for shipment at a port in Chennai.

Chennai is home to global and Indian auto majors like BMW, Ford, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ashok Leyland, TVS Group, et cetera. It also has almost 35 per cent of India's share of auto ancillary units.

So why has Chennai emerged as the Detroit of South Asia? There are many reasons, not the least of which is the Tamil Nadu government's investment-friendly industrial policy.

With an impressive growth of 26.42 per cent last year, India is the second fastest growing auto market in the world, next only to China that grew at a scorching 42 per cent.

There is a lot to cheer about for India if you look at what the Confederation of Indian Industry survey of auto ancillary companies (Q2FY2010) says: 'India is estimated to have the potential to become one of the top five auto component manufacturing economies by 2025.'

'The Indian auto component industry is moving rapidly towards grabbing the global auto component outsourcing market, which is expected to be worth $700 billion by 2015. With the spiralling demand from the domestic and international auto companies, the industry is emerging as one of the fastest growing manufacturing sectors in India and globally,' the survey notes.

The Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers' statistics show that auto exports from India rose by 49.59 per cent last year. The CII survey also says that India's exports of auto components would grow to $4.5 billion this year, compared with $1.8 billion in 2005.

Source Rediff.com (http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/jun/30/slide-show-1-auto-is-chennai-the-detroit-of-asia.htm#contentTop)

"Technicians" is not a very descriptive word....Can you please describe as to how much years of experience & what educational qualifications (ITI, B.E ?) does a typical Hyundai technician in Chennai plant need to possess for him to earn a 'good' salary...(would a 'good' salary mean a 5 digit salary..say less than 20K ?) ?.

I am aware of people in surrounding areas of Kundrathur & Kanchipuram who are working as temp. employees for a some period of time @ Hyundai and they are technicians too and they seem to be getting 4 digit salary (according to them).

Is anybody aware of how many permanent workers & how many temp. workers are employed at Hyundai plant in Chennai ?.

Thanks In Advance.

In order to bring Hyundai and Ford to the state in the middle to late ninties the state govt promised the moon.The state govt offered sales tax exemption for 15 years.Uninterrupted power,and cheap labour cost was always trumpeted.Had these promises not made they would never ever set up the manufacturing base in the state.

In order to bring Hyundai and Ford to the state in the middle to late ninties the state govt promised the moon.The state govt offered sales tax exemption for 15 years.Uninterrupted power,and cheap labour cost was always trumpeted.Had these promises not made they would never ever set up the manufacturing base in the state.

Labour problems are seen every where including China. The recent plant closures at Honda and Foxconn in China are few examples. TN has more manufacturing industries than any state in India and will see more problems in the future. Gurgoan is witnessing bigger problems with labour. The state govt cannot be 100% towards the management. They have to mediate the strikes. After few decades of socialism promoted by Nehru clan, we are inching towards a free market economy. The older generations are simply refusing to come along.

source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIH/2010/06/30&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00200&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T


.......... But nobody seems to know why the much-hyped multi-crore auto component plant announced by the Caparo Group (of Swraj Paul) in Tada near Nellore simply walked out recently. .................

This article claims CAPARO has moved out of TADA (out of AP too). Any idea where they have finally decided to relocate?



Even they face problems with multi-crore Fab city project which TN lost

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_seven-fab-city-firms-told-to-return-land_1402600

The Andhra Pradesh’s dreams of emerging as a major semiconductor hub are fast evaporating, with the much-hyped Fab City on the outskirts of Hyderabad getting vacant by the day......While the initial number of companies to get firm allotment of land at the Fab City was 27, it has now come down to 14, with many companies not starting their projects or getting onto the state government’s radar for squatting on the land, which was allotted to them at nominal rates.


Denotification of Apache SEZ at Tada which too TN lost

http://sezindia.nic.in/writereaddata/updates/Minutes_of_40th_BoA.pdf

After deliberations, the Board decided to approve the request of M/s. Apache SEZ
Development India Private Limited for de-notification of 56.4 Acres (22.825 hectares) of
land from the above mentioned SEZ, thereby making the total area of SEZ 257.17 Acres
(104.0766 hectares), subject to contiguity of the SEZ being maintained and also DC’s
certificate that the developer has refunded all the tax/duty benefits including service tax
exemption, which might have been availed under the SEZ Act/Rules, in respect of the
land being de-notified


No point in criticizing TN, Tamil people or TN govt for these strikes......vittukku vidu vasapadi.....

Even they face problems with multi-crore Fab city project which TN lost

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_seven-fab-city-firms-told-to-return-land_1402600

The Andhra Pradesh’s dreams of emerging as a major semiconductor hub are fast evaporating, with the much-hyped Fab City on the outskirts of Hyderabad getting vacant by the day......While the initial number of companies to get firm allotment of land at the Fab City was 27, it has now come down to 14, with many companies not starting their projects or getting onto the state government’s radar for squatting on the land, which was allotted to them at nominal rates.

fab city project is dead.wharever few companies started there are related to solar power generating equipments.

^^

I was worried that it didnt happen in TN. Now as an Indian I am far more worried. If this state of affair continues it will do NO GOOD for the country on a whole. Hope some one (atleast the active Bangaloreans) are able to rev up the project!!

Fab City project was more gas than real right from the start.

Maran tried for TN and failed since TN simply does not have and can not meet the huge water demand.

Hyderabad promised moon and due to the general Feel Good factor, Fab City was announced.

Everybody thought that if the land is given free and tax concessions allowed, Silicon Industries and Solar industries will come running. It is not so simple.

Demand, Cost of Production, Availability of Power and Water, Cost of running plants are still not in favourable state for Fab Industries. Not FABulous.

In order to bring Hyundai and Ford to the state in the middle to late ninties the state govt promised the moon.The state govt offered sales tax exemption for 15 years.Uninterrupted power,and cheap labour cost was always trumpeted.Had these promises not made they would never ever set up the manufacturing base in the state.

Without these consessions which industry is going to come to India? Tata got so much land and other exemptions for their Nanocar from Gujarat. Same with IT. Karnataka gave lot earlier so lot of companies started there first and later spread when others also gave. FYI, One state still lost two automobile companies even after promising like TN.

By reading your post it seems Tamil Nadu is the only state to give these exemptions to get Hyundai and Ford and other states get these kinds of industries simply without any offers.

^^

I was worried that it didnt happen in TN. Now as an Indian I am far more worried. If this state of affair continues it will do NO GOOD for the country on a whole. Hope some one (atleast the active Bangaloreans) are able to rev up the project!!

Bangaloreans are shrewd.They don't go after hollow projects envisaged by a group of NRIs calling themselves SEMINDIA.Bangalore has got a BRAND name in Software,Software enabled,electronics hardware. Apart from research and developments Bangalore has a name for machine tools industries,garments mfg,aeronautics industry and slowly climbing up in automobile industry.Bangalore/Karnataka is also bestowed with highly skilled,productive,least strike prone work force.Has a very bright future.

Bangaloreans are shrewd.They don't go after hollow projects envisaged by a group of NRIs calling themselves SEMINDIA.Bangalore has got a BRAND name in Software,Software enabled,electronics hardware. Apart from research and developments Bangalore has a name for machine tools industries,garments mfg,aeronautics industry and slowly climbing up in automobile industry.Bangalore/Karnataka is also bestowed with highly skilled,productive,least strike prone work force.Has a very bright future.
Don't write things without facts. When SEMINDIA project was proposed, karnataka went out of way to grab it. They offer matched every thing from AP. The project went in AP's way because of readily available land near the airport which karnataka couldn't provide.
http://www.kannadaaudio.com/forum/showthread.php/14589-Karnataka-pitches-for-Fab-City-near-Mysore
Without concessions, it is very difficult to get projects due to low quality infrastructure across India. No Indian city can be compared agsinst western cities.

^^ Freya vidunga boss. How many times you say certain people keep parroting their views and zilch change.

^^

Friends I really dont want to start (once again) an inter-state or inter-political debate. I mentioned in my previous post about Bangaloreans ONLY because as they have most of the MNC semiconductor based companies in India. Nothing else!!! Please dont start it again....

And again I wish that SemIndia will not get dusted & dumped!!! Only time can answer this!!

^^ Ada, idhoda mudinju pocha :ohno:? Naa pala kalavarangala yedhir paarthaen!! :lol::lol:

At least, TN and Chennai forums are more democratic to entertain naysayers and negative attitude (even if it annoys many people). I don't think any other SSC India forums have space for this. :)

Alright, lets start the fight...1...2...3!!! Am ready to enjoy the show!! :lol::lol:

^^

Konja naal gap irundha dhaan swarasyimaaa irukkukum.....


Coming back to buisness.....

CHENNAI: German automobile group Daimler has rejigged its Indian operations, shifting the marketing and after sales activities of Actros trucks from Mercedes Benz India to Daimler India Commercial Vehicles, which is setting up a truck plant near here. Mercedes Benz, however, will continue to assemble the Actros trucks at its Pune plant and supply Daimler India.

With the rejig, the Daimler group will have two different entities focused on two lines of business - goods trucks under Daimler India and passenger cars and buses under Mercedes Benz.

"With focus on the entire Indian truck market, Daimler India will consolidate the truck business in India. The company will be able to offer a dedicated approach with synergies for the premium segment of heavy transportation," said Marc Llistosella, managing director of Daimler India.

Daimler India's truck plant to roll out 6-49 tonne trucks is expected to go on stream in 2012.

"It makes sense to continue trucks assembly at the Mercedes Benz Pune plant, especially for the Actros. This will enable us utilise our investments effectively", said Wilfried Aulbur, managing director and CEO of Mercedes Benz.

Last year the company had sold 230 Actros and during the current calendar year Mercedes Benz has logged 104 units till May, an official said from Pune over phone.

The Actros trucks were sold directly to customers by Mercedes Benz and the after sales service was provided by nine stations.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Daimler-rejigs-truck-business-in-India/articleshow/6115262.cms

^^ Ada, idhoda mudinju pocha :ohno:? Naa pala kalavarangala yedhir paarthaen!! :lol::lol:

At least, TN and Chennai forums are more democratic to entertain naysayers and negative attitude (even if it annoys many people). I don't think any other SSC India forums have space for this. :)

Alright, lets start the fight...1...2...3!!! Am ready to enjoy the show!! :lol::lol:

:banana::cheer:

Hyundai india registered a negative growth of 2% in passenger car sales for the month of june 2010.source-NDTV profits

Hyundai india registered a negative growth of 2% in passenger car sales for the month of june 2010.source-NDTV profits

Still Hyundai saw its car sales grow by 18.9 per cent, selling 27,366 units.


http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/tata-motors-overtakes-hyundai-in-june/400113/

But headline tata-motors-overtakes-hyundai is misleading sine Hyundai is only in passenger car segment.


Can't wait for Nissan to make splash in India's crowded car market. Hope it will be a huge hit and make Chennai the leading auto hub.

CHICAGO: US mining and construction equipment giant Caterpillar is investing in doubling its capacity at its truck manufacturing plant in Chennai, that will help it serve the increasing demand in India as well as other parts of Asia.

In a bid to start production of mining shovels and expand output of trucks at plants in Chennai and Illinois, Caterpillar is planning to invest USD 700 million over the next four years.

The truck capacity of the Indian plant will double to help Caterpillar meet the increasing demand in commodity-rich developing regions like Asia.

Caterpillar plans to increase capacity for 60 and 100-tonne trucks at its existing manufacturing facility near Chennai, the company said.

The capacity expansion that would more than double truck production capabilities in India for its 100-tonne 777D and 60-tonne 773E trucks is expected to be completed by early 2012.

"Caterpillar produces trucks for the mining industry at a facility near Chennai, and our increased investment in that facility is a sign of our belief in that operation and the products made by our team in India," Caterpillar's corporate spokesperson Jim Dugan told PTI.

The world's largest maker of construction and mining equipment, diesel and natural gas engines and industrial gas turbines with its headquarters in Peoria in Illinois, also plans to add a mining shovel production line at its Aurora plant in Illinois besides expanding truck production in Decatur in Illinois and Thiruvallur, near Chennai.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/automobiles/Caterpillar-to-double-Chennai-truck-plant-capacity-by-2012/articleshow/6127877.cms

Overwhelming domestic demand for Ford India’s small car Figo, as well as interest in overseas markets like South Africa, has prompted the carmaker to start a second shift at its Maraimalainagar plant in Chennai since June, a company official said.

“Yes, we have started our second production shift at our Chennai plant to meet the increasing demand for Figo,” Ford India Executive Director (Marketing & Sales) Nigel E. Wark told PTI here.

“Figo is getting a good response from the market and the company has received 24,000 purchase orders in the first four months of launch. This small car is helping to drive our sales growth,” Mr. Wark said.

However, he did not reveal by how much production has increased after adding the second shift.

Earlier, Ford India President and Managing Director Michael Boneham had said the second shift would increase the production capacity of the small car by 30-40 per cent. Mr. Boneham had indicated that the company plans to hire 600-700 personnel at the plant and most of them would be diploma holders and fresh pass-outs.

Ford India is gearing up production to export the Figo to South Africa, the company said in a statement.

Figo was launched in March in India. The company started work on the small car in 2007 and the global unveiling of the Figo was done in September last year.

http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/article500014.ece

^^ Though a happy news ... God knows How these renault:ohno:, Ford and all recruits freshers ..!! Am a Mechanical Fresher ..Dreaming any one of these will call me for intw ... :lol:Anyone know how they recruit .. I dont think they go for campus atleast not extensively !!!:nuts:

^^ Though a happy news ... God knows How these renault:ohno:, Ford and all recruits freshers ..!! Am a Mechanical Fresher ..Dreaming any one of these will call me for intw ... :lol:Anyone know how they recruit .. I dont think they go for campus atleast not extensively !!!:nuts:

Don't Just target these big players for your entry. As a fresher getting in there is like strike a Toto....... You should rather concentrate in mid scale industries which should be related to these FORD, Renault..etc....... After getting some years of experience then it will be easy for you to grab ur place there... Then you can give more info in this forum :nuts:

Don't Just target these big players for your entry. As a fresher getting in there is like strike a Toto....... You should rather concentrate in mid scale industries which should be related to these FORD, Renault..etc....... After getting some years of experience then it will be easy for you to grab ur place there... Then you can give more info in this forum :nuts:

He he :lol:If u know some mid scale industries :lol: .. please PM me ... brother ... As u said I will surely give info to SSC Chennai if i get into these biggies :banana:

@ Darkprinz

As Vijay t says, it is better to finish your training period / initial years in a suitable SME, learn the tricks and get into a bigger company.

If you get into a big company right in the beginning, you will be a small cog in the big wheel and your knowledge and experience will be limited to only one or two domains.

Please activate your college Training & Placement Dept and use their Letterhead and a friendly professor to invite the Auto companies in and around TN for campus placements. Please provide the companies all facilities and treat them well.

All the best.

I fully Agree with you.

Meanwhile develop good soft skills @darkprinz.

Sinna paiyan sikkitanu aalaluku advise panranga pa... Pavam valika pogudu..:lol::lol:

I am sitting for campus placements this year and till now had similar views as that of Darkpinz's. My dad gave me the same advice as you all gave. Looks like it is the best option to enter the industry. But I am looking for a design based profile. So dunno if companies open positions in that area for under grads.

http://thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00139/TH06_FIGO_139614f.jpg
EXPORT EFFORT: Michael Boneham (right), President and Managing Director, Ford India, and Capt. Subhash Kumar (left), Chairman, Chennai Port Trust, flagging off the consignment of 1,200 Ford Figo's to South Africa in Chennai on Monday. Photo: Bijoy Ghosh

Ford India has flagged off the first shipment of its new compact car Figo to South Africa. The consignment was flagged off by Michael Boneham, President and Managing Director of Ford India, here on Monday. “In addition to being a sales chart topper, Ford Figo is the first small car to be produced and exported by Ford India and today's [Monday's] consignment of 1,200 Figos to South Africa is a new exciting development for us,” Mr. Boneham said. “Given the rising demand worldwide for compact vehicles, we plan to accelerate our export strategy to not only enhance our business growth but also to further embellish India's reputation as a major regional auto manufacturing hub,” he added.

Ford India, he said, would export the 1.4 L petrol and diesel Figo variants to Ford Motor Company of Southern Africa for onward delivery to their network of 123 dealerships by mid-July. “Just as the Figo has taken the Indian market by storm, we are confident that it will have a similar impact in South Africa. We hope to export 5,000 vehicles to the country by the end of the year.” In India, the company sells 1.2L variants due to prevailing government tax structures and legislation requirements.

Since it made its debut in March, Ford Figo has generated over 24,000 purchase orders for Ford India. In June this year, the company sold a total of 7,269 units as compared to 1,982 units in the year-ago period. The success was driven mainly by Figo. The Figo shipment further extends an export relationship between Ford India and Ford in South Africa. In addition to diesel power trains, the Ford India-manufactured Ford Fiesta continues to be exported to South Africa. In June this year, it India also began exporting petrol engines to Thailand.

The company is also gearing up to widen its export base to several new markets as the company sees good potential for Figo cars. The company is expected to announce export of Figo cars to new destinations in the next couple of weeks. “Apart from South Africa, there are some potential markets in the Asia Pacific region,” Mr. Boneham said. With Figo driving sales up hugely, Ford India has also begun second shift operations at its manufacturing unit near here. Going forward, the company expects capacity constraints. With the commencement of second shift operations, the company, however, will be expanding the capacity to about 1.40 lakh units. Ford's Maraimalai Nagar plant can produce about two lakh units with three shifts.

Robert , Kannan , Vijay_t

Ya will surely take ur advice .. thanks bro ...:banana:


Mad4

he he ... chinna payyan periyavangalte advice vangarthu thappu illai pa :lol:

^^ Nichayam ne pozhachupa thambi... :cheers: :lol::lol:

www.thehindu.com

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1200 Ford Figo's waiting to be shipped off to South Africa, at the Chennai Port Trust on Monday. A file Photo : Bijoy Ghosh

The Chennai Port Trust would set up ’Multi-Layer Car Parks’ to facilitate auto manufacturers park their export consignments, a senior official said on Tuesday.

“We will demolish all old buildings and replace them with ’Multi-Layer car parks’ with a capacity to park 6,000 cars,” the official, who did not wish to be named, said.

The first Multi-Layer Car Park would come up near the Ro-Ro berth, close to Bharati Dock, he said.

Chennai Port Trust is considered the second biggest container terminal, he said, adding that there are also plans to make it a ‘Container and Car Hub’.

The official also suggested that car manufacturers use additional land near the Container Terminal to park vehicles.

Peugeot Citroen is expected to build a factory in AP.

Peugeot Citroen is expected to build a factory in AP.

^^ Bro... how you know ...got any news or links ?? ...

For me even i like it be in chennai, but worried it will increase the head weight of Chennai unions only and end up every thing will get trouble. I will be happy if they go south TN.... may be tuticorin ..easy to export to SE asia.

But AP may not be the right decision, we don't know when again the telugana problem will start ...and if the state separated then this company will be in huge trouble...

^^ Bro... how you know ...got any news or links ?? ...

For me even i like it be in chennai, but worried it will increase the head weight of Chennai unions only and end up every thing will get trouble. I will be happy if they go south TN.... may be tuticorin ..easy to export to SE asia.

But AP may not be the right decision, we don't know when again the telugana problem will start ...and if the state separated then this company will be in huge trouble...

Why do u think if its AP it will be Hyderabad, I am guessing Tada!!
I will be happy if it comes to Tada that will warn these idiots at Sriperumbudur realise the value of job

^^ Bro... how you know ...got any news or links ?? ...

For me even i like it be in chennai, but worried it will increase the head weight of Chennai unions only and end up every thing will get trouble. I will be happy if they go south TN.... may be tuticorin ..easy to export to SE asia.

But AP may not be the right decision, we don't know when again the telugana problem will start ...and if the state separated then this company will be in huge trouble...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-07/peugeot-said-to-consider-reviving-indian-factory-plan.html

Peugeot may spend about 700 million euros ($881 million) on the factory with annual production capacity of 100,000 cars in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh, said the person, who asked not be identified because the discussions are confidential. Peugeot executives intend to meet this month to decide on the project, before seeking approval from the carmaker’s board and starting negotiations with the state government, the person said.
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I feel it is still in discussion stage. TN also have a chance. If it is AP, likely choice is Nellore as Peugeot's Indian Sourcing office is based out of Chennai and their alliance partner Mitsubishi is also based out of the city.

Why do u think if its AP it will be Hyderabad, I am guessing Tada!!
I will be happy if it comes to Tada that will warn these idiots at Sriperumbudur realise the value of job

Are u sure that in TADA there will be no labour unions or strike.Tada being close to TN border will have the same mentality prevailing among industrial workers in chennai.Ideal spot would be Pune or in Gujarat where workers are more disciplined and matured.Not much of communist controlled unions in these parts.

^^ If we can realize that more Automotive or any any manufacturing big plant will cause more union problems in chennai ....then sure TN or India Govt also know that..... I hope they might soon give up to attract new major players to Chennai (at least for certain period) .... as its damaging india's image....some thing is better than nothing........ For me if any company come to any best place in India is OK rather than they going china or going to West Bengal, Kerala.. :nuts:...

Together with Pune and Gujarat ..i think u can add Karnataka also .... seems both Gujarath and Karnataka BJP forts are more aggressive for developments.....

Are u sure that in TADA there will be no labour unions or strike.Tada being close to TN border will have the same mentality prevailing among industrial workers in chennai.Ideal spot would be Pune or in Gujarat where workers are more disciplined and matured.Not much of communist controlled unions in these parts.

Labor issues are everywhere including China & western countries. Pune and Gujarat are no exceptions though they have been doing relatively better in the past few years. But still they have law and order issues (bomb blasts & riots).

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China: Strike happens after a decade and purposely by the china govt itself only in Taiwan and Japanese companies (as china want to screw them)...... their pay was so less (Rs 5000), they have to work 12 hrs a day, overtime compulsory, no body allowed ask anything, its completely Hitler rule inside those industries ..... India industries gives 1000 times more rights to workers until they misuse like rowdies

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575354853980451636.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

CHENNAI, India—This Indian port city, built around a former British fort, in many ways resembles Detroit circa 1910.

The metropolis of about five million people is booming as scores of international car makers and suppliers have set up shop. Ford Motor Co., Hyundai Motor Co, Nissan Motor Co., Renault SA, Daimler AG and BMW AG all have converged here.

They are spending billions of dollars to make Chennai one of the world's biggest hubs of small cars for export as well as for increasingly affluent Indians. Soon, the city will turn out close to 1.5 million vehicles a year, more than any one U.S. state made last year.

Car-parts suppliers also are placing big bets on the city, formerly known as Madras. Tire company Michelin SA and window maker Saint-Gobain SA, both of France, are setting up some of their biggest factories globally in Chennai. Germany's Daimler, meantime, is building a multimillion-dollar test track.

All the investment has generated jobs for more than 200,000 people and accounts for 12% of the economic output of the state of Tamil Nadu.

The kind of manufacturing being done in Chennai is what India needs to bridge the gap between its agricultural work force, which makes up 60% of its population, and high-end services industries, such as outsourcing, that employ relatively few.

Unlike China, India hasn't been able to attract as many foreign investors to set up factories because of bureaucratic barriers and volatile politics. But Chennai's boom is a sign that India can create a productive environment when economic circumstances are right and demand is there. India's economy is expected to grow 9% this year and Tamil Nadu has worked to minimize barriers to investment.

Hyundai has invested $2 billion here, and recently expanded to be able to produce 650,000 cars a year. It is not only cheap factory-floor labor that attracted the South Korean company, but also an abundance of low-wage engineers to program the robots that help churn out vehicles.

On the other side of town, Ford has invested close to $1 billion, deploying production-line technology it doesn't even use in the U.S., including car-painting robots and a deep-water testing pool to ensure cars won't leak during monsoon floods.

Michael Boneham, the Chennai-based managing director of Ford's India operations, said the educated labor, a consistent industrial policy, access to a port and government financial incentives all played a role in luring the U.S. car maker to the city.

"India is now on the radar as one of the two most important markets for Ford strategically world-wide," the other being China, Mr. Boneham said.

Ford, among the first foreign firms here, recently announced its best-ever quarter in India: Sales more than tripled in the second quarter compared to a year earlier to 22,858 vehicles thanks to its recently expanded Chennai facilities.

The state of Tamil Nadu has been better than most Indian jurisdictions at providing the land, roads and electricity that the car industry needs. It also set up a single office for them to obtain the dozens of government approvals and licenses required to start or expand a business.

Big projects in India too often run into problems when local governments change parties. But when the state government was taken over by the DMK from the AIADMK in 2006, auto executives said they noticed no change in how they were treated.

The influx of foreigners and foreign money is altering this historic city. In the largely vegetarian region there is little meat for sale. But the Seoul Restaurant is packed with Korean families grilling beef at their tables.

The student population at the Chennai American School has quadrupled to close to 800 as new pupils have arrived from the U.S., Japan, Europe and Korea. A sprawling amusement park across the street from the Hyundai factory, a French bakery, evangelical Korean churches and Japanese grocery stores have popped up in recent years.

"The city has really changed," said R. Sethuraman, the Chennai-based senior vice president of finance and corporate affairs at Hyundai's India unit. "We used to only have South Indian food."

New malls and apartments are being built to serve the growing middle class of auto workers. The state's technical institutes, known for producing computer programmers and engineers, are switching focus to skills useful at car companies.

The growth of the car industry hasn't been without problems. Hyundai unions have staged several strikes to demand better treatment of workers, traffic has become more congested and rents in some of the best neighborhoods are now out of reach of the average Indian.

But Chennai's production capacity is set to rise even further. Japan's Nissan just started making cars here in May after investing close to $1 billion, and it plans to ramp up to more than 400,000 cars a year. Its Indian-made subcompact, the Micra, will hit global roads in October.

^^ I just suppose to post this... its a energetic article ...very happy to see this ... I don't know who is the master mind to make chennai up to this stage :nuts: .... But people used to complain political parties ...but they are the one brought TN here....

^^ I just suppose to post this... its a energetic article ...very happy to see this ... I don't know who is the master mind to make chennai up to this stage :nuts: .... But people used to complain political parties ...but they are the one brought TN here....
People will keep complaining forgetting the fact that politicians are one among us. Many bick ticket auto investments came in the last 3 years.

Are u sure that in TADA there will be no labour unions or strike.Tada being close to TN border will have the same mentality prevailing among industrial workers in chennai.Ideal spot would be Pune or in Gujarat where workers are more disciplined and matured.Not much of communist controlled unions in these parts.

Please answer the following:
a) Why Daimler selected Chennai for their mega 4000+ crore truck plant when they are already operating Mercedez-Benz plant near Pune ?
b) Why did Michelin picked Chennai for one of the biggest tyre FDI (4000 + 7000 crores) when they own 100 acres near Pune (not used till today) ?
c) Why Hero-Honda, Kia and Peugeot are trying to be some where near Chennai when they have other options ?

I am not against Pune or Gujarat but couldn't keep mum when Chennai bashing crosses a limit.

Chennai is and will remain India's Second Detroit in every sense because it manufactures a bulk of India's vehicle production but when it comes to innovation and new ideas of both Indian and foreign companies Pune beats Chennai hands down..TATA,Mahindra,BAJAJ...all have mega R&D facilities in Pune...infact Nano is the product of Pune...Chennai is a good to place to produce in mass and export...while Pune as an all round automobile industry...Pune is truly the heartland of INDIAN AUTO INDUSTRY!!

Chennai is and will remain India's Second Detroit in every sense because it manufactures a bulk of India's vehicle production but when it comes to innovation and new ideas of both Indian and foreign companies Pune beats Chennai hands down..TATA,Mahindra,BAJAJ...all have mega R&D facilities in Pune...infact Nano is the product of Pune...Chennai is a good to place to produce in mass and export...while Pune as an all round automobile industry...Pune is truly the heartland of INDIAN AUTO INDUSTRY!!

ha..ha.. good joke... if someone names some city as Detroit, we indians are fighting among ourselves which is no1 detroit , no2 detroit...

b/w yash.... for your kind information,
Mahindra's are relocating their entire R&D to chennai from Nasik...and they moved the tractor/car plant plans too to near chennai (i suppose it is cheyyar)...
i heard already Tata's and bajaj's are feeling how we missed chennai...:ohno:

http://online.wsj.com/video/indias-detroit-city/EDF916AB-3058-4D70-97EC-99ABC573B96F.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575355203430910736.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

^^wow... encouraging!!!!!.

Hope we get Peugeot too..

Yash, Pune has also developed a lot in auto sector of late. But If you go by statistics, around 30% of India's auto industry is based in Chennai, and this will only increase with Nissan, Michelin, JK Tyre, Apollo coming up.

And as someone rightly said, why we call ourselves 2nd Detroit - I wish Chennai replaces Detroit.

Ranga, yes the trade unions especially in Hyundai have left a blot on Chennai's reputation. I hope the SG steps in and disciplines the unions. Their legitimate needs have to met, for sure but they should not sort of blackmail the companies with unreasonable demands.

Chennai is and will remain India's Second Detroit in every sense because it manufactures a bulk of India's vehicle production but when it comes to innovation and new ideas of both Indian and foreign companies Pune beats Chennai hands down..TATA,Mahindra,BAJAJ...all have mega R&D facilities in Pune...infact Nano is the product of Pune...Chennai is a good to place to produce in mass and export...while Pune as an all round automobile industry...Pune is truly the heartland of INDIAN AUTO INDUSTRY!!

Buddy ...Happy to see you are interested in Chennai too.... if i am not wrong ..Few years back the major automobile market was North india only...that time the spending power of south were very less.... so historically those Indian Manufactures are located either in center or north which will be good for logistics ....

But now ...just last 5 to 10 years Chennai is outperforming .... its proven the skills, facilities and location of Chennai are more suitable for auto industry ..... I never heard Pune as Detroit of Asia .... any way the fact is Thailand is still the Detroit of Asia .... we are still behind them .... will be happy if either Chennai or pune over take that position...

I am sitting for campus placements this year and till now had similar views as that of Darkpinz's. My dad gave me the same advice as you all gave. Looks like it is the best option to enter the industry. But I am looking for a design based profile. So dunno if companies open positions in that area for under grads.

If you are keen on a design assignment, try EIL (Engineers India Limited), MECON or similar consultantcy firms and not any manufacturing industry, where generally, design is outsourced, except a few major auto companies like Tatas, Mahindras. You can also try L&T ECC - EDRC cell.

In Industry, design skills are required generally upto tender quoting stage. After winning the tender, the detailed designs are generally given to Consultancy firms.

^^ Thanks kannan. Let's see.

PSA Peugeot Citroen announced its China joint venture with China Changan Automobile Group, plan to invest $1.2 Billion and aim to produce 200,000 units / year.

Hope PSA board will announce about Indian operation soon. All the best TN

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE66804B20100709

The wall street journal report describes Chennai as Indias Detroit..
India's Detroit - Chennai (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575354853980451636.html?KEYWORDS=Indias+Detroit#)

The wall street journal report describes Chennai as Indias Detroit..
India's Detroit - Chennai (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575354853980451636.html?KEYWORDS=Indias+Detroit#)

Its already reported and has been discussed. Pls refer to previous page.

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http://newsystocks.com/news/3587587

In about a week's time, the fate of the 35 workers who were dismissed by Hyundai Motor India, over which a section of the workers went on a strike, would be known when a six-member committee finalises and submits its report.

The committee was formed last month, after a three-day agitation at Hyundai Motor India's plant at Irungattukottai, about 40 km west of Chennai, disrupted production. The committee includes two representatives each from the workers, the management and the Tamil Nadu Labour Department.

Informed sources say that the committee, which is likely to meet on Monday, will hold a series of sittings and submit its report by July 15.

Hyundai Motor India, the second-largest passenger car manufacturer in the country and the largest car exporter, has been facing labour unrest at its plant for the last four years.

In 2008, the company dismissed 87 workers for allegedly indulging in violence, but took back 20 of them in deference to the State Labour Department's recommendation, apart from the 12 who had apologised for their action. Earlier this year, a committee appointed by the Labour Department pursued the case against the 67 dismissed employees and upheld the company's decision.

However, the committee recommended that 35 workers may be reinstated on humanitarian grounds.

It is the fate of this 35 workers that will determine whether the peace at Hyundai Motor India's plant holds or not. The company is of the view that humanitarian grounds need not necessarily mean reinstating them; offering them an attractive monetary compensation — almost like a severance package — is equally humanitarian in nature.

Trade union
Hyundai Motor India's Managing Director, Mr H.W. Park, stated as much during an interaction with the media last month. Hyundai was ready for an out-of-court settlement.

A note circulated to the media last month by the company stated that the management had communicated to the Labour Department its willingness to arrive at a settlement with the dismissed employees by offering compensation of up to Rs 15 lakh.

The management further clarified, the note said, that it had come forward with this offer only because industrial relations and peace would be spoilt if the dismissed workers were to be reinstated.

While the immediate trigger for the latest agitation at Hyundai Motor India is the fate of the 35 workers, the simmering issue is a larger one — that of the workers forming a recognised trade union rather than merely having a workers' committee. Mr Park rued the trying time that the company has had over the last four years because of workers' agitations. That too, at a time, when it has doubled capacity, launched new models and increased exports.

CITU's view
The management's case is that a majority of the workers are in favour of a peaceful working environment and it is a minority that is trying to get greater negotiating power.

The company's argument is that a workers' committee, whose representatives are elected by the workers, is quite active, especially in representing their case and negotiating better working terms. However, Mr A. Soundararajan, General Secretary, CITU – Tamil Nadu State Committee, who has been spearheading the agitation at Hyundai, differs.

A workers' committee, he says, cannot be a substitute for a legitimate trade union, which has greater collective bargaining power. And, managements have to recognise a trade union.

They cannot take cover under the argument that States have to enact legislations explicitly stating this. Just because Tamil Nadu has not passed a legislation making it compulsory for managements to recognise an organised trade union, companies cannot say they are on the right side of the law if they do not recognise a union or not allow the workers to form a trade union.

Some States such as West Bengal, Kerala and Maharashtra, have passed legislations making it compulsory for companies to recognise trade union activity, while Tamil Nadu has expressed its intention to do so.

Most multinational companies prefer not to have an organised trade union or, at best, a apolitical trade union. Industry observers wonder why companies should worry about the political affiliation of the union. After all, in their countries, they are all used to negotiating with trade unions and all of them are affiliated to one political party or the other.

Outcome

Many in the industry are waiting to see what happens at Hyundai Motor India. The outcome, either way, will determine the industrial relations scenario in Tamil Nadu, they say, requesting not to be named. It will also have implications for the industry in the other parts of the country.

A senior company executive felt that the Government should not have allowed the issue to fester for so long at Hyundai Motor India.

A clear stand would have helped settle matters quickly. It would also send a clear and definite signal to other investors. After all, what investors want most is clarity in Government policy.

Industry leaders also do not think that the agitation at Hyundai Motor India should be compared to agitations in other automobile companies elsewhere in the country, particularly in the Gurgaon-Manesar belt, or in Pune, in the western region.

In the Gurgaon-Manesar region, which along with Pune and Chennai, is one of the three major automobile industry hubs in the country, there was tremendous angst among the workers – high inflation had made life difficult and downsizing by companies made it worse.

They admit that the economic downturn has had an immediate impact on the automobile industry, mainly because of the large number of direct and indirect jobs the sector generates.

A better understanding of the workers' psyche and a greater involvement of the State Governments in ensuring industrial peace will go a long way in ensuring a good working environment — something that is essential for investors looking to bring in money, say industry leaders.

http://sify.com/finance/tn-looks-for-answer-to-labour-woes-in-bengal-maharashtra-laws-news-news-khmaE6caifc.html

The Tamil Nadu government today said it was studying labour laws in Maharashtra and West Bengal.

The move comes after recent labour problems faced at multinational companies’ facilities in the state. The state administration had ruled out any possibility to implement a law that emphasised compulsory unions in factories.

Speaking to Business Standard on the sidelines of Great Lakes Post-graduate Working Professional Programme in Management, Tamil Nadu Labour Minister T M Anbarasan said the state government was studying labour laws in Maharastra and West Bengal, especially their recognition of unions in factories.

"We want to understand their laws, since they have allowed factories to recognise their unions," he said. He, however, ruled out any possibility of the state government emphasising that the factories must have a union.

The government’s decision comes at a time when a three-party forum has been formed to find a solution to the labour crisis at Hyundai’s manufacturing facility in Sriperumbudur, 40 km from Chennai. The Hyundai Motor Employees Union, backed by CITU, which claims a majority of the employees are backing the union, halted the company’s production four times at the factory in two years.

This not only caused financial losses to the company but also forced it to move its i20 production section to a separate facility in Turkey

SOURCE: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/13/stories/2010071354550300.htm (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/13/stories/2010071354550300.htm)

The 50:50 joint venture between John Deere India Pvt Ltd, a leading manufacturer and supplier of agricultural equipments, and Ashok Leyland, the flagship company of the Hinduja Group in India, will start production of construction equipment at Chennai by end-2010.

The green-field project will be initially manufacturing loader-backhoes and four-wheel drive loaders, a company official said. The company, which set up its micro-irrigation equipment manufacturing plant at Vadodara in January, plans to launch drip irrigation products in Madhya Pradesh and Tamil Nadu this year, with annual business target of $2 million, Mr Ravi Menon, Director, Sales and Marketing, told reporters on the sidelines of the launch of two new models of tractors in categories of 31 and 45 horse power (HP) here on Monday.

John Deere India, part of the $23.1-billion multinational behemoth with 43 manufacturing facilities globally and India's largest tractor exporter, exported 13,000 tractors to 68 countries and sold 25,000 in the domestic market last year.

Its 112-acre production capacity at Sanaswadi (Pune), where it manufactures 11 models of tractors between 35 and 89 HP, has a production capacity of up to 60,000 tractors annually. It had established this plant in 1998, sold first tractor in 2000 and the 1,00,000th in March 2010, he added.

The company has a 7.34 per cent share in the tractor market in India and is a leader in the segment of up to 30 HP tractors, with 30 per cent share. One-third of India's farmers now want to have an additional tractor, said Mr Mahesh Boolchandani, Senior Deputy General Manager-Marketing.

India has half-a-dozen major, organised players and John Deere's nearest competitor was Mahindra & Mahindra. Around 4.14 lakh tractors were sold in India in 2009-10, of which nearly half were in the 31-40 HP category.

For its new offerings, John Deere has tied up with a number of banks and financial institutions for financing purchase of tractors by farmers.

The 380-strong dealership network is also being expanded. The 35-HP tractor will have a price tag of Rs 3.84 lakh with a one-year maintenance charges waived and a free warranty of three years if the purchase is made before October 31.

The 41-HP tractor, with similar conditions, will have a price tag of Rs 4.05 lakh.

:cheers:

yesterday i watched sun news that french embassy talks about investment with MK stalin.. did anybody knows that.. (peogeout)

போர்டு கார் தயாரிப்பில் ரோபாட்டுகள்
ஜூலை 14,2010,15:53




சென்னை : கார்த் தேவைகளின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகரித்து வருவதால் போர்டு நிறுவனம், தனது சென்னை யூனிட்டில் , கார் தயாரிப்பில் ரோபாட்களை பயன்படுத்த ஆரம்பித்துள்ளது. சென்னையில் 92 ரோபாட்டுகளை போர்ட் நிறுவனம் பயன்படுத்துகிறது. இதன் மூலம் 30 சதவீத வேலைகள் குறையும் என எதிர்பார்க்கப்படுகிறது. கார்களுக்கு பெயிண்ட் அடிப்பது, வெல்டிங், கீழ் உள்ள பகுதிகளை இணைப்பது, கார் கதவுகளை சரி செய்வது போன்ற பணிகள் ரோபாட்டுகளிடம் தரப்படுகின்றன. போர்டு நிறுவனத்தின் பிகோ கார்கள் தயாரிப்பில்தான் தற்போது ரோபாட்டுகள் பயன்படுத்தப்பட்டு வருகின்றன. தனது சென்னை ஆலையின் உற்பத்தி அளவை 2 லட்சம் கார்களாக உயர்த்துவதற்காக போர்டு நிறுவனம் ஏற்கனவே 50 கோடி டாலர் முதலீட்டை மேற்கொண்டுள்ளது என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது. விற்பனைக்குத் தயாராகி விட்ட போர்டு பிகோ கார்கள் விரைவில் தென் ஆப்பிரிக்காவுக்கு அனுப்பி வைக்கப்படவுள்ளன. இதற்கிடையே போர்டு நிறுவனம் விரைவில் தனது கார் விலைகளை உயர்த்தத் திட்டமிட்டுள்ளதாம். அதேபோல ஜிஎம், டொயோட்டோ கார்களின் விலையும் கூட உயரப் போகிறதாம். இந்த நிறுவனங்கள் தங்களது தயாரிப்பின் விலைகளை உயர்த்துவது இது நான்காவது முறையாகும். விற்பனை அதிகரித்திருப்பதால் இந்த விலை உயர்வுக்கு இவை திட்டமிட்டுள்ளன. டெல்லி நிலவரப்படி 0.5 சதவீதம்முதல் 3 சதவீதம் வரை விலை உயர்வு இருக்குமாம். அதாவது ரூ. 1500 முதல் ரூ. 20 ஆயிரம் வரை விலை உயர்வு இருக்கும்.
டொயோட்டோ இன்னோவா காரின் விலை ரூ. 10,000 வரை உயரலாம். கொரோல்லா ஆல்டிஸ் செடன் கார் விலை ரூ. 15,000 வரை உயரலாம். அடுத்த வாரமே இந்த விலை உயர்வு அமலுக்கு வருகிறது.

yesterday i watched sun news that french embassy talks about investment with MK stalin.. did anybody knows that.. (peogeout)

Did the news mentioned Peugeot ? The TN govt web site says it is a courtesy call.
http://www.tn.gov.in/pressdb/pressphoto.php?id=779

Did the news mentioned Peugeot ? The TN govt web site says it is a courtesy call.
http://www.tn.gov.in/pressdb/pressphoto.php?id=779

i heard news like seeking investments of three french industries.. did you noticed yesterday news..

Mitsubishi Motors To Buy Stake In Hindustan Motors

http://www.dealcurry.com/20100714-Mitsubishi-Motors-To-Buy-Stake-In-Hindustan-Motors.htm


.....Hindustan Motors' Thiruvallur plant is the likely asset buy option. The plant has a manufacturing capacity of 12,000 vehicles per annum.


Peugeot-HM tieup

http://living.oneindia.in/automobiles/auto-news/2010/peugeot-india-entry-120710.html


The French car company, who has been in exile all these ten years, is now back into the country. To consolidate its presence this time it is looking for a partnership with Hindustan Motors.



Peugeot may land up at chennai..think another JV like Renault-Nissan.....TN Ultra Mega Integrated Automobile Projects Policy may be attractive for this tripartite Mitsubishi-HM-Peugeot

Mitsubishi Motors To Buy Stake In Hindustan Motors

http://www.dealcurry.com/20100714-Mitsubishi-Motors-To-Buy-Stake-In-Hindustan-Motors.htm


.....Hindustan Motors' Thiruvallur plant is the likely asset buy option. The plant has a manufacturing capacity of 12,000 vehicles per annum.


Peugeot-HM tieup

http://living.oneindia.in/automobiles/auto-news/2010/peugeot-india-entry-120710.html


The French car company, who has been in exile all these ten years, is now back into the country. To consolidate its presence this time it is looking for a partnership with Hindustan Motors.



Peugeot may land up at chennai..think another JV like Renault-Nissan.....TN Ultra Mega Integrated Automobile Projects Policy may be attractive for this tripartite Mitsubishi-HM-Peugeot

They bargain with AP first and get come and ask for same benefits in TN, AP is being used for bargaining power, Thats what happened with VW and finally Pune won

They bargain with AP first and get come and ask for same benefits in TN, AP is being used for bargaining power,
Thats what happened with VW and finally Pune won
And its absolutely fine, no different that what we do with different shops. I would be happy if they come. VW had gone to Hyd but for the reverse corruption. Brilliant idea by AP if I may add. I see nothing wrong with that either.

BMW Rolls Out Its 5 Series

http://www.businessworld.in/bw/2010_07_14_BMW_Rolls_Out_Its_5_Series.html

Luxury carmaker BMW has started rolling out the BMW 5 Series from its Chennai Plant. The cars will be seen on Indian roads by the end of July.

The 523i, 530d and 525d are produced as completely knocked-down (CKD) units that are assembled in Chennai plant.

"We are confident that the new BMW 5 Series will further increase our momentum in the Indian luxury car segment," said Juergen Eder, managing director of BMW's Chennai plant.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100716-702403.html

NEW DELHI (Dow Jones)--Mitsubishi Motors Corp. (MMTOY) plans to acquire a factory of Hindustan Motors Ltd. (500500.BY) in south India as the Japanese auto maker wants to start independent operations in this expanding market for automobiles, said a person familiar with the matter.

Mitsubishi has already held initial talks with Hindustan Motors to buy the factory, located at Thiruvallur in Tamil Nadu state, the person told Dow Jones Newswires late Thursday, asking not to be named.

Hindustan Motors currently produces Mitsubishi's Lancer sedan and the Pajero sport-utility vehicle at the Thiruvallur plant via a technical alliance.

"Mitsubishi would like to come out on its own," the person said. "So, they have placed feelers with Hindustan Motors to buy the plant. A formal proposal is yet to be made."

Hindustan Motors Chief Financial Officer Yogesh Goenka declined to comment while Managing Director Manoj Jha wasn't available to respond to queries.

At last mitsubishi stands on its own. The mitsubishi india is a numero uno tactical company(probably cheating company)... they are rolling out their outdated pajero(late 90's model) here in india and the global pajero is montero in india.... To add fuel to the flame, the montero costs 35 L and outdated pajero costs 20 L. similarly they playing gamble in the name of Lancer and cedia.....

At last mitsubishi stands on its own. The mitsubishi india is a numero uno tactical company(probably cheating company)... they are rolling out their outdated pajero(late 90's model) here in india and the global pajero is montero in india.... To add fuel to the flame, the montero costs 35 L and outdated pajero costs 20 L. similarly they playing gamble in the name of Lancer and cedia.....

They will do this as long as we indians buy them. If somebody is paying 35L for a car then they are not poor and its okay for the black money to come into the mainstream. Atleast the economy keeps rolling this way. Job security for some, taxes for Govt. Bribe for officials and so on.
Moreover, Indians take crap if given with a foreign brand name.

hi goodman, hmmm i accept that it is providing job to certain people, but why they(mitsubishi motors) still rolling out thier outdated model in india. There is nothing to Blame indians, there was no decent SUV to buy in india. Prado Costs 4 million indian rupees,way too high to afford for a decent SUV. its nothing to blame indians, They dont have much thing to choose one among the best.:bash::bash:

We missed out on this one.

For next small car, Nissan gets inputs from Alto buyers
To be launched in partnership with Ashok Leyland. (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/06/stories/2010070651860200.htm)

Mumbai, July 5

Nissan, which is gearing up for the commercial launch of the Micra next Wednesday, is simultaneously preparing the groundwork for its next small car being planned jointly with Ashok Leyland.

Even though the project is still in the concept stage, sources said small teams from Nissan have been talking to owners of the Maruti Alto to find out what draws them to the car. The Alto is the largest selling small car in the B-segment with monthly numbers of around 25,000 units.

“The Nissan team has been collating feedback on owners' experience with the Alto, while checking out what additional features they would like in a similar product,” a person who was involved in the exercise told Business Line.

The B-segment typically kicks off with an ex-showroom (Mumbai) price of Rs 3-lakh and it is here that Nissan has planned its next small car. Ashok Leyland will be its partner if everything goes according to plan. The duo is now gearing up to launch light commercial vehicles from two plants in Chennai and Hosur.

The Alto was launched some years ago to give owners of the Maruti 800 the next best alternative to an entry-level car. In the process, its sales have soared while the 800 is barely doing around 2,500 units a month. The Alto has also struck the balance comfortably between urban and semi-urban markets from the viewpoint of being an aspiration product.

Critical segments

Nissan is, therefore, zeroing in on a strategy which will see it present in critical segments in India that will continue to be growth drivers in the coming years. The Micra, expected to be priced in the Rs 4-5.5 lakh range, will be part of the B plus category and will compete with the likes of the Swift, Figo and Polo.

Incidentally, the Micra is part of the Nissan Motor India stable (which is also tipped to roll out a sedan and sport-utility vehicle in two-three years) and the next small car will be specific to the alliance with Ashok Leyland. It will be priced in the Rs 3-lakh range which will pitch it directly against the Alto, Santro, Indica etc.

Renault strategy

Nissan's global ally, Renault, is also following a similar strategy for its small car which will begin with an offering in the B plus and then go down to the B segment. The fact that the cars will be part of the Nissan V-platform in Chennai will mean tremendous savings in costs and a competitive price in the process.

Further down the cost pyramid, the Renault-Nissan combine is in talks with Bajaj Auto for an ultra-low cost car that is expected to be priced upwards of Rs 1.5 lakh. It has been touted as the challenger to the Tata Nano though the project will focus on high mileage (of at least 30 km to a litre) so that two-wheeler riders will have a good reason to graduate to a car.

^^ That talks abour at least 4 small car projects [if not 5]

Nissan - Micra
Nissan - Ashok Leyland JV - small car (design stage)
Renault - B+ catergory small car (With a plan for B category too) [So technically 2 projects but I mabbe wrong]
Renault - Nissan JV - ultra-low cost car [tout to be a competitor for Nano]

Good thing is all of these cars would be produced in Chennai and Hosur. :D :cheers::banana:

Labor issues are everywhere including China & western countries. Pune and Gujarat are no exceptions though they have been doing relatively better in the past few years. But still they have law and order issues (bomb blasts & riots).

Yes..Bombay had the great textile strike of 80s that crippled the whole industry.
Chennai is far better off

btw trade unions are necessary evil..That is my opinion..Otherwise there might be exploitation as well in perfect competition.

^^ That talks abour at least 4 small car projects [if not 5]

Nissan - Micra
Nissan - Ashok Leyland JV - small car (design stage)
Renault - B+ catergory small car (With a plan for B category too) [So technically 2 projects but I mabbe wrong]
Renault - Nissan JV - ultra-low cost car [tout to be a competitor for Nano]

Good thing is all of these cars would be produced in Chennai and Hosur. :D :cheers::banana:

^^

I think Renault - Nissan JV - ultra-low cost car [tout to be a competitor for Nano] is with Bajaj and will be most likely in Pune.

^^

I think Renault - Nissan JV - ultra-low cost car [tout to be a competitor for Nano] is with Bajaj and will be most likely in Pune.

Yes, the ULC will be manufactured in a greenfield plant near Pune. The land is owned by Bajaj today.

Yes..Bombay had the great textile strike of 80s that crippled the whole industry.
Chennai is far better off

btw trade unions are necessary evil..That is my opinion..Otherwise there might be exploitation as well in perfect competition.

In india once you get union then workers can not be punished even if they are violating basic rules... the productivity will be gone... no bonus based on the worker's performance but all will get equal bonus which wont give any pressure to worker to show their skill....

I did a project in Ranipet Bhell (year 2000), i saw workers start work at 10:00 ~ 11:00 am only... and go early lunch, and after lunch in working hours they happily put fan and sleep near machines put the machines ideal........ that time lot of REC or premier univ eng where working as eng & mangers there. I asked one of them "why no managers or eng ask the workers to work ??" he said if you go and ask them to work then they will unit and ask to suspend that eng or mang and on the spot they will react very rude. So no one can touch them.

This is why no company want to allow union in india. After all company really need workers attitude and moral to make the business successful.

I got some info from my friend from hyundai (more precise info) that Hyudai is working now to launch a ultra cheap vehicle to compete TATA's NANO. Please share if anyone find any news about this.

For engine plant seems they will got o AP , he said the company don't want to expand in Chennai. The management already sick due to union problems.

Also seems the productivity of workers dropped so much in the company which make the management worry.

no expansion... Omg ... Play between these stupid workers(some) n govt has resulted this..

I got some info from my friend from hyundai (more precise info) that Hyudai is working now to launch a ultra cheap vehicle to compete TATA's NANO. Please share if anyone find any news about this.

For engine plant seems they will got o AP , he said the company don't want to expand in Chennai. The management already sick due to union problems.

Also seems the productivity of workers dropped so much in the company which make the management worry.

Forget chennai being falsely claimed as the Detriot of India.Self destruction is the motto of workers here.Few months back i wrote in this thread that Hyundai's top officials were meeting A.P govt officials with regard to expansion of their project.It is quite possible that the engine plant might be set up in A.P.Further,if TN govt does not take steps to discipline industrial workers in TN immediately then it will end in disaster for a state with huge unemployment and hardly any land for the huge population to fall back for sustenance by cultivation.Before liberalisation there were three passenger cars automobile companies that is Hindustan motors,Ambassodor,in calcutta,Fiat and later called premier Padmini in Pune,Standard motors mfg standard super 10 and later standard Herald.in Chennai.While the first two survived the chennai company closed and one of the reason being chronic labour problems.May be Hyundai is heading in the same direction.BTW best of luck to other passenger car mfg companies based in chennai.

Forget chennai being falsely claimed as the Detriot of India.Self destruction is the motto of workers here.Few months back i wrote in this thread that Hyundai's top officials were meeting A.P govt officials with regard to expansion of their project.It is quite possible that the engine plant might be set up in A.P.Further,if TN govt does not take steps to discipline industrial workers in TN immediately then it will end in disaster for a state with huge unemployment and hardly any land for the huge population to fall back for sustenance by cultivation.Before liberalisation there were three passenger cars automobile companies that is Hindustan motors,Ambassodor,in calcutta,Fiat and later called premier Padmini in Pune,Standard motors mfg standard super 10 and later standard Herald.in Chennai.While the first two survived the chennai company closed and one of the reason being chronic labour problems.May be Hyundai is heading in the same direction.BTW best of luck to other passenger car mfg companies based in chennai.

Bashing based on emotions do not help. Hindustan Motors started their Mitsubishi plant in Chennai only. Labor problems are every where. If you have many factories, the percentage of labour problem will only increase. Peugeot closed their kalyan plant due to labour problems and they are determined to come to south this time. It is a phase and I am sure TN will over come this.

Bashing based on emotions do not help. Hindustan Motors started their Mitsubishi plant in Chennai only. Labor problems are every where. If you have many factories, the percentage of labour problem will only increase. Peugeot closed their kalyan plant due to labour problems and they are determined to come to south this time. It is a phase and I am sure TN will over come this.

Happy to see your confidence but i worry it might be over confidence. I thing you didnt understand the magnitude of the problem. May be i remind you

1. Due to vote banking tamil nadu govt already initiated to make unions compulsory. The next day a hyundai offical said that they might not invest in this state if govt said this policy before. Then do you think anybody else will invest if it happens ??

2. Hyundai becaome the Roll model for many industries the success story of hyundai only brought many industries here. So if Hyundai end in disaster its will be a roll model too. It will send a strong message.

3. Why no company want to invest in WB and kerala even the location of calcutta and resources of kerala is so vibrant ?

4. Why once trade king calcutta lost its crown and now stands down under many states ?

5. Buddy the world is totally different compared to 20 years back. Before 1995 the market was only domestic so what ever happen indutries tries to run and make what ever they can in that domestic market. Now the world is small... the investor is the king there are hundreds of better place for them always....if they go we are only lossing. Take NANO as example.

We don't just target Hyundai, Ford..etc to make cars for just india we want to make for the world then only we can create enough jobs for our land.

Happy to see your confidence but i worry it might be over confidence. I thing you didnt understand the magnitude of the problem. May be i remind you

1. Due to vote banking tamil nadu govt already initiated to make unions compulsory. The next day a hyundai offical said that they might not invest in this state if govt said this policy before. Then do you think anybody else will invest if it happens ??

2. Hyundai becaome the Roll model for many industries the success story of hyundai only brought many industries here. So if Hyundai end in disaster its will be a roll model too. It will send a strong message.

3. Why no company want to invest in WB and kerala even the location of calcutta and resources of kerala is so vibrant ?

4. Why once trade king calcutta lost its crown and now stands down under many states ?

5. Buddy the world is totally different compared to 20 years back. Before 1995 the market was only domestic so what ever happen indutries tries to run and make what ever they can in that domestic market. Now the world is small... the investor is the king there are hundreds of better place for them always....if they go we are only lossing. Take NANO as example.

We don't just target Hyundai, Ford..etc to make cars for just india we want to make for the world then only we can create enough jobs for our land.
I agree with you that trade unions doesn't help industry when they go over board but the concept of trade unions and collective bargaining is present even in developed countries. The management mainly in the HR should also act responsibily to develop good labour relations.
Also what is the point bashing without providing a solution ? How can this change the mind set of workers in TN ? Political parties need to survive based on freebies and short-term measures because educated people rarely vote or encouraged to come to politics. Its only the labour class and masses who sincerely vote and the political parties need them for survival. How do you expect them to go against their vote base ?

Forget chennai being falsely claimed as the Detriot of India.Self destruction is the motto of workers here.Few months back i wrote in this thread that Hyundai's top officials were meeting A.P govt officials with regard to expansion of their project.It is quite possible that the engine plant might be set up in A.P.Further,if TN govt does not take steps to discipline industrial workers in TN immediately then it will end in disaster for a state with huge unemployment and hardly any land for the huge population to fall back for sustenance by cultivation.Before liberalisation there were three passenger cars automobile companies that is Hindustan motors,Ambassodor,in calcutta,Fiat and later called premier Padmini in Pune,Standard motors mfg standard super 10 and later standard Herald.in Chennai.While the first two survived the chennai company closed and one of the reason being chronic labour problems.May be Hyundai is heading in the same direction.BTW best of luck to other passenger car mfg companies based in chennai.

I don't understand your motive in TN threads. Your every post is a bashing for no good reason! :nuts:

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I think Renault - Nissan JV - ultra-low cost car [tout to be a competitor for Nano] is with Bajaj and will be most likely in Pune.

The JV between Bajaj - Nissan to mfg ULC car is scrapped and Bajaj would go all alone on this project. Then Nissan found AL to start their ULC project again and this is because few top people who were earlier part of the Tata Nano project with Tata Motors are currently in AL and this was a selling point to tempt Nissan into a JV with AL on a ULC car platform.

Regards,
Subbu

I don't understand your motive in TN threads. Your every post is a bashing for no good reason! :nuts:

^^And you are always bashing him for no good reason. Juz kidding

Talk about the issue or ideas only. Plz dont attack people persnally. If he is not from TN then i hats off for him.... i never care and see what happens in other states that shows i am selfish ...but we should appricate people who care to know abt other states.

Looking at vijay_t and other ppl comments it looks like disaster in waiting if hyundai takes a beating (moving to other state for new investments ). ...

Lets hope TN govt controls (thereby facilitating dialogue between workers and mgmt) and provide confidence to investors. Please take the labour laws of not only indian states, look globally at o AP/EU/NA...

I agree with you that trade unions doesn't help industry when they go over board but the concept of trade unions and collective bargaining is present even in developed countries. The management mainly in the HR should also act responsibily to develop good labour relations.
Also what is the point bashing without providing a solution ? How can this change the mind set of workers in TN ? Political parties need to survive based on freebies and short-term measures because educated people rarely vote or encouraged to come to politics. Its only the labour class and masses who sincerely vote and the political parties need them for survival. How do you expect them to go against their vote base ?

Then don't expect MNCs to invest here.From my experience i can tell you without battling my eyelids that labour force in TN are prone to destroy themselves due to their incorrigible behaviour when things moves nicely around them.I am sure the ruling party in TN unlike in A.P Kerala and even karnataka wants industrial growth and industrial peace.From their side they have put efforts to bring investments in to TN. If the labour force do not reciprocate and support the state govt efforts what can they do? This is the statment oft issued by the CM of Gujarat and it has salutary effect.How long will the labour class and the masses blackmail the parties with their so called vote bank strength?The day is not far off (Somebody told me it is 2014) when indian economy collapse due to this type of politics.Then even GOD cannot save INDIA let alone TAMIL NADU..

^^And you are always bashing him for no good reason. Juz kidding

Talk about the issue or ideas only. Plz dont attack people persnally. If he is not from TN then i hats off for him.... i never care and see what happens in other states that shows i am selfish ...but we should appricate people who care to know abt other states.

This is not a personal attack and I am not bashing him. I am only quoting my observation. Many of the topics that he is bringing up have been discussed a lot of times...many of them in the recent past. So, I don't see a point to bring it up again and again.

I do visit almost all threads in the India SSC forum. At most places I find just news quotes and not even comments...forget bashings. It is the TN forum where bashings are at their peak although TN is better off compared to the problems quoted in other places in these forums. I am not against bashing but these repeated ones without reference to any current news/context, is sickening these days. I think it is also because people in the TN threads encourage them by replying to them.

In some non-TN threads, you can even see some people asking others not to reply to a particular post although that forumer had been posting for a long time.

Forget chennai being falsely claimed as the Detriot of India.Self destruction is the motto of workers here.Few months back i wrote in this thread that Hyundai's top officials were meeting A.P govt officials with regard to expansion of their project.It is quite possible that the engine plant might be set up in A.P.Further,if TN govt does not take steps to discipline industrial workers in TN immediately then it will end in disaster for a state with huge unemployment and hardly any land for the huge population to fall back for sustenance by cultivation.Before liberalisation there were three passenger cars automobile companies that is Hindustan motors,Ambassodor,in calcutta,Fiat and later called premier Padmini in Pune,Standard motors mfg standard super 10 and later standard Herald.in Chennai.While the first two survived the chennai company closed and one of the reason being chronic labour problems.May be Hyundai is heading in the same direction.BTW best of luck to other passenger car mfg companies based in chennai.

I am a frequent visitor of this forum. I find the forum very informative. But some posts are very funny. The funniest posting is always done by Mr. Ranga. Hats off to well wisher of CHennai.:nuts:.
One more posting by him in another chennai thread on IT road project:lol:;
""Why the Govt does not want to do?Is it because of vote bank politics as the employees of sofware companies are either from outside the state or from outside chennai and are not voters registered here.Another pertinent reason may be the majority of employees though voters here are not supportive of the ruling party owing to certain upper castes dominate the work force in the software and allied industries and normally they are not supportive of the Regional parties of DRAVIDIAN hues.""

Further,if TN govt does not take steps to discipline industrial workers in TN immediately then it will end in disaster for a state with huge unemployment and hardly any land for the huge population to fall back for sustenance by cultivation

I don't understand your motive in TN threads. Your every post is a bashing for no good reason! :nuts:

Its pretty much clear that frequent striking in auto industry and Nokia etc has caused a dent and will cause a serious one if not checked. Already Hyundai opted for Hyd for its high end R&D job and now there is are indications that its future plans would follow suit.
It is a clear and present danger for future investments and words cannot be strong enough till the govt acts.

Acquainting with this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=59671579&highlight=#post59671579)management lesson fully may help you understand. Arguments to refute the point itself especially the highlighted blue one mights perhaps add more value. :)

I am a frequent visitor of this forum. I find the forum very informative. But some posts are very funny. The funniest posting is always done by Mr. Ranga. Hats off to well wisher of CHennai.:nuts:.
One more posting by him in another chennai thread on IT road project:lol:;
""Why the Govt does not want to do?Is it because of vote bank politics as the employees of sofware companies are either from outside the state or from outside chennai and are not voters registered here.Another pertinent reason may be the majority of employees though voters here are not supportive of the ruling party owing to certain upper castes dominate the work force in the software and allied industries and normally they are not supportive of the Regional parties of DRAVIDIAN hues.""

^^ Even you are frequent visitor you never contribute anything to this forum and take info only not give any info here. If everyone like you the forum will die soon. Then why you comment about Ranga who contribute more in this forum.

For me there is nothing wrong if one share his thoughts. If you like just reply and share yours, if you don't like just move on to next topic. Yes sometimes people get frustrated and write comments emotionally its doesn't mean they are against, its just shows they care.

Even i introduced this forum to many of my frez most them never bother about things happening in our country they never even visit. We should encourage people to See, Listen and understand ........ Don't Just chase away.... After all we INDIANS ARE ONE OF THE MOST IGNORANCE RACE

Cross posting here as the topic going on here too ... Can those guys who said Unions are fundamental rights to worker can comment on this ??? This is what unions will do..... And this news is reaching everywhere in the world.

Tamil Nadu seems going to be the next WB or Kerala. Is there anyway to stop this ??? I think only the students can stop this....they should get down to this unions and blast them. After all the students are the one to get affected first. NO JOBS !!
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Workers strike again at Nokia's India factory
(http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-07-14/workers-strike-again-at-nokia-s-india-factory.html)

Workers at Nokia's Chennai factory in south India went on strike on Tuesday, demanding higher wages.

The factory is a key hub for the manufacture of mobile handsets and employs 8,000 workers. Nokia officials declined to comment on the impact the strike would have on production of phones.

The strike follows negotiations on Monday between Nokia and the local union, Nokia India Employees Progressive Union (NIEPU), for a long-term wage settlement, which Nokia said was close to being finalized.

Nokia said in a statement that the wages being offered are among the highest in the region in similar industries.

Nokia appeared to have resolved in the current negotiations another contentious issue when it offered to revoke the suspension of 60 workers. The company suspended 60 Chennai factory employees in January on charges of misconduct.

About 1,200 workers then went on strike in protest of the suspensions. Nokia said it would use other factories it has globally to avoid disrupting production.

India's manufacturing sector has strong trade unions unlike the software services and business process outsourcing industries.

The proposed settlement on Monday between Nokia and the NIEPU was rejected by a faction within NIEPU opposed to the new leaders of the union, according to sources who declined to be named.

NIEPU is currently under the control of the Labour Progressive Front (LPF), a union that is affiliated to the ruling DMK (Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam) party in Tamil Nadu state of which Chennai is the capital. NIEPU and LPF were not immediately available for comment.

CITU (Centre of Indian Trade Unions), a large leftist trade union, supports the strike at Nokia, said A. Soundararajan :bash:, the union's general secretary in Tamil Nadu, on Wednesday.

Nokia had a 54.1 percent market share in India of units sold in 2009, according to research firm IDC India.

old news mate.

Nokia Resumes Production at India Plant

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703394204575368101190906896.html?mod=WSJINDIA_hpp_LEFTTopWhatNews

I know this is old news...this strike happened last week and now production resumes already...But i think this news not covered in this forum... the point is.. seems strike happens 3 to 4 times a year

^^ Request to All, (specifically vijay_t)
Don't read too much to anything. Never take things to heart instead take it to brain. Before any judgment learn to see both the sides.

Vijay_t,

I wonder what you have contributed to this forum? Just because you have 112 posts to your account doesn't mean you have contributed. Learn to welcome newbies.

How long will the labour class and the masses blackmail the parties with their so called vote bank strength?The day is not far off (Somebody told me it is 2014) when indian economy collapse due to this type of politics.Then even GOD cannot save INDIA let alone TAMIL NADU..

Comedy of the year! "Amma bayamaruku, poochandi..." !:lol::lol::lol:

^^ Request to All, (specifically vijay_t)
Don't read too much to anything. Never take things to heart instead take it to brain. Before any judgment learn to see both the sides.

Vijay_t,

I wonder what you have contributed to this forum? Just because you have 112 posts to your account doesn't mean you have contributed. Learn to welcome newbies.

+1000........

Sick to read his repeative pessimistic post always...:ohno::ohno:

^^ Request to All, (specifically vijay_t)
Don't read too much to anything. Never take things to heart instead take it to brain. Before any judgment learn to see both the sides.

Vijay_t,

I wonder what you have contributed to this forum? Just because you have 112 posts to your account doesn't mean you have contributed. Learn to welcome newbies.


You are talking like kid. That newbie starts his first post by slapping one person who is in this forum for many years and posted 1000+ .... i just said give respect to other....i didn't say i am king like what you pretend.

I saw many times you posted harsh about others, now its comes to me ... if you want to fight in public forum i can be very rude than you. Keep your dirty mouth measured ........Don't loose words.

What so wrong if i post a news ??? am i writing that news my self ? Go and see how many positive news i posted too.

You are talking like kid. That newbie starts his first post by slapping one person who is in this forum for many years and posted 1000+ .... i just said give respect to other....i didn't say i am king like what you pretend.
HEHE... 1000+ posts, then is he super senior or has two horns? Have you bothered to follow the bold?
I saw many times you posted harsh about others, now its comes to me ... if you want to fight in public forum i can be very rude than you. Keep your dirty mouth measured ........Don't loose words.
OMG, who is kid here?
What so wrong if i post a news ??? am i writing that news my self ? Go and see how many positive news i posted too. Posting positive news is contribution in your dictionary?:lol: Then, your Ranga never contributed all these years...:lol::lol::lol:

cool ... cool brothers please dont fight please ... :)

+1000........

Sick to read his repeative pessimistic post always...:ohno::ohno:

Pessimistic or Optimistic is base on person to person...... here the rule is to post only genuine news not only optimistic news. Of course i am more concerned when major industries are disturbed, because many states already proven what will happen next.

"Small minds discuss people, Average Mind discuss events, Great minds discuss ideas" I am discussing events ... where as you both discuss about people ??

நல்ல கெளப்புற பீதிய !! Newsச பாருமா எதுக்கு என்ன ??

^^ Discuss??? :hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

^^ Brothers, please cool it.

A developed Chennai is all our motto... This includes Ranga, Vijay, Mad 4 Madras, myself, and everyone else. Ranga has been adding lot of spices in his posts most of them are sarcastic statements. It doesn't mean that he is not wanting to see a developed Chennai. He is just highlighting some events which can dampen the growth of the city.

Well, sarcastic statements must hold some truth. It can't be spoken on thin air. So many posts of Ranga, neither holds facts nor stated practical.

^^ Let me write in your own style ..."You first learn manners before taking lectures to others... You too never talk any facts either. What i saw from you is ...you are just a crap who supports blindly unions and strikes ... You better move to WB or Kerala you can start a party there .The first half of your name suits very well for you ...:nuts:"

oops its just your style not mine :lol:

I have not mentioned that I support unions. Careless reading.
How about a ticket for you to Chi na?

And see who is taking about manners? Never take things personal friend, if you are not you would have not mentioned
if you want to fight in public forum i can be very rude than you. Keep your dirty mouth measured ........Don't loose words.

duplicate post

^^ Let me write in your own style ..."You first learn manners before taking lectures to others... You too never talk any facts either. What i saw from you is ...you are just a crap who supports blindly unions and strikes ... You better move to WB or Kerala you can start a party there .The first half of your name suits very well for you ...:nuts:"

oops its just your style not mine :lol:

Hiyo hiyo, sariyana comedy piece nenga... freya vidu.. Don't try, you'll never get the vision of other's eyes. I don't want to test the patience level of others. As usual you contribute ;)

:popcorn:

:popcorn: :cheers:

Hiyo hiyo, sariyana comedy piece nenga... freya vidu.. Don't try, you'll never get the vision of other's eyes. I don't want to test the patience level of others. As usual you contribute ;)

ha ha ..சரியான லூசு பையன்கிட்ட வாயகுடுத்து மாட்டிகிட்டேன் ..hey man you really looks mad... Ok we lets stop the rubbish now....

1. Hereafter you just talk about the news or events posted ...
2. If you don't like that news then blame the source not the person who post
3. Never ever target particular person in a public forum. You read your slef how this debate started ??

ஷப்பா இப்பவே கண்ண கட்டுதுடா சாமீ :nuts:

Marubadiyuma? Mudiayala...idula thapu thapa english, thamizh vera... Ivanga ena vena soluvangalam, nanga vedika pakanumam, nala irukuya un kadai arisi.

Moderators: Please do something on this. the last few discussion items are becoming very personal ....

so far i havent seen this kind of strange behavior from ppl.

Ok Lets back to track ... Good News ...:cheers: (sorry if posted earlier)


Ford India to clear backlog of up to 7,000 units by end-July (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Ford-India-to-clear-backlog-of-up-to-7000-units-by-end-July/articleshow/6183057.cms)

MUMBAI: Car-maker Ford India expects to clear a backlog of about 6,000-7,000 units of its small car Figo by this month-end following an enhanced production at its Chennai plant, a top company official said.

The company had received a total booking of 25,000 units since the launch of the small car in March 2010.

"Presently, we have a backlog of about 6,000-7,000 units of Figo. We hope to deliver these by end-July," Ford India president and managing director, Michael Boneham, said in Mumbai.

The company has started a second shift at its Maraimalainagar plant in Chennai from last month to cater to the overwhelming demand for its Figo.

"We have increased our Chennai facility's production capacity from one lakh units to 1.40 lakh units per annum with the addition of the second shift. We are confident of catering to demand for the Figo," Boneham said.

The Chennai facility could manufacture up to two lakh units in three shifts per annum, he said.

When asked for how long the company would maintain the price of the Figo in the backdrop of rising input costs, Boneham said, "Yes, we are under pressure, but we will continue to keep the same price."

The company had launched its much anticipated global small car Figo at Rs 3.5-4.48 lakh in March to take on the likes of Maruti Swift, Hyundai i20 and Polo from Volkswagen.

The company has already started exporting Figo to South Africa.

"Figo's success has exceeded expectation in terms of sales and target markets. Our debut compact car offering is being very well received by a wide-range of customers in India," he said, adding "Figo will help us to increase our marketshare in the coming days."

Boneham said the company's Figo has helped drive growth in Tier I, II and III destinations.

"Fifty per cent of our Figo sales comes from Tier I cities and the remaining from Tier II and Tier III cities," Boneham added.

Hope this will Expand Nissan Plant !! :cheers:

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INDIA: Nissan plans Micra sedan for 2011 (http://www.just-auto.com/news/nissan-plans-micra-sedan-for-2011_id105108.aspx)


Nissan has launched its new, locally-built Micra here in India but, though a sedan version was promised for next year, officials declined to comment on progress on the separate, low cost global small car project with Ashok Leyland.

"We are still conducting the feasibility study on the low cost project," Nissan India MD and CEO Kiminobu Tokuyama told just-auto at the launch event in New Delhi.

"The study is in the initial stages, we will share the findings on the conclusion of the study," he added, declining to elaborate.

When asked if Nissan was talking to any other company besides Ashok Leyland for the global small car project, Tokuyama declined to comment.

Nissan said it would launch a diesel version of the Micra later this year. "After the diesel version, the sedan will come on the same platform next year," Tokuyama said.

The automaker plans nine model launches in India in the next couple of years. Tokuyama said five of the nine would be made locally at the company's Chennai factory with three on the newly-developed 'V' compact car platform.

The first is the redesigned Micra hatchback, followed by the sedan in 2011, while the third model is yet to be finalised, Tokuyama said. The remaining four models will be imported completely built up (CBU) from Japan.

The Micra, called March in Japan, was previously built there and in the UK but, as just-auto has reported previously, the new, fourth generation model is to be built in four new countries and sold in 160.

Production has already started in Thailand and India (at the end of May) - the line will also be made in China and Mexico.

Nissan executives in Thailand have previously said the Micra sedan would be 4.4 metres long and not sold in western Europe while the third vehicle Nissan India's Tokuyama said had 'not been finalised' was described by executives at the Thai Micra launch as 'a new compact MPV to replace the current Note' (which is also currently built in Japan and the UK).

Nissan is expecting global sales of up to 1m units a year of the three new V-platform cars - roughly 300,000-400,000 of each.

The V-platform was developed by Nissan, rather than the Renault-Nissan alliance, but is available for the French to use and under consideration for a future Renault, Nissan executives have said.

For Indian Micra build, Nissan has already chosen 96 local suppliers so local content was around 85% from Job One.

"[Half] of the supplier base is in Chennai and the rest from various parts of India," Tokuyama told just-auto. Local parts such as pistons, clutch discs and starter motors will also be exported.

Indian produced Micras will exported to over 100 countries including Europe, the Middle-East and Africa. The model will join the Indian-built Pixo (made on an OEM basis by Maruti Suzuki as a variant of that automaker's Alto/A-Star) in export markets and compete with locally-made Hyundai models shipped from the Korean automaker's Indian 'export production hub'.

The Indian Micra is built at the Renault-Nissan alliance joint venture called Renault Nissan Automotive India in Chennai after an INR45bn investment in the new plantwhich will has initial annual capacity of up to 400,000 units. In the first year, 80,000 units will be produced for domestic and export sales.

Sorry if posted early ...as far as i know i didn't see these in this forum...

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09HwbZ75CZ0kC/610x.jpg


http://www.hindu.com/mp/2008/10/08/images/2008100850010101.jpg

http://www.wheelsunplugged.com/ViewNews.aspx?newsid=7121

The first original equipment shipment of 500 Acelere tyres for passenger cars, from Apollo Tyres’ plant in the southern Indian city of Chennai were today despatched to Hyundai Motor India Limited. To mark the occasion, the Indian National flag and the Apollo flag were formally hoisted at the entrance of the Plant by Apollo’s chief of projects and unit head.
This is Apollo’s 9th manufacturing unit globally and the 4th in India. The Chennai Plant has been built in a record time of 14 months since construction began in November 2008. :cheers:The plant received the necessary certifications and clearances for OE supply in a short span of just 4 months after commencing production.

Commenting on the occasion Satish Sharma, chief, India Operations, Apollo Tyres said, “Once completed Chennai will be our largest manufacturing unit, globally. The plant is still under construction, however once the first phase is completed it will produce around 16,000 passenger car tyres and 6,000 truck-bus radial tyres a day, enabling us to cater to the demands of the growing automotive sector.”

^^ Even you are frequent visitor you never contribute anything to this forum and take info only not give any info here. If everyone like you the forum will die soon. Then why you comment about Ranga who contribute more in this forum.

For me there is nothing wrong if one share his thoughts. If you like just reply and share yours, if you don't like just move on to next topic. Yes sometimes people get frustrated and write comments emotionally its doesn't mean they are against, its just shows they care.

Even i introduced this forum to many of my frez most them never bother about things happening in our country they never even visit. We should encourage people to See, Listen and understand ........ Don't Just chase away.... After all we INDIANS ARE ONE OF THE MOST IGNORANCE RACE
Keep your shirt on buddy. Not being a regular contributor (I am out of TN) does n't deprive me the right to post my views especially on perverse postings. I never found any constructive posting from that gentle man.
Neuritic outbursts :nuts:on issues (and fellow members) doesn't help any body's cause.

Renault to roll out Influence by 2011 (http://logisticsweek.com/road/2010/07/renault-to-roll-out-influence-by-2011/)

French carmaker Renault would launch its first sedan — Influence — in India by 2011, a top company official said on Wednesday.

“We will introduce the first sedan Influence by 2011… and a SUV Koleos by 2012-13,” Renault India Country General Manager and Managing Director Marc Nassif told reporters on the sidelines of an event in Chennai.

He said Influence would be manufactured at the company’s facility at Oragadam near here. Renault has tied-up with Japanese automaker Nissan for setting up the manufacturing unit at a joint-investment of Rs 4,500 crore.

Nassif, who is also the deputy managing director of Renault-Nissan Automobile India, said the company is keen on localising the products they manufacture at their facility.

“I think Micra will have around 60 per cent of localised content…we want that to reach 80 per cent,” he said.

During a panel discussion on India as a global hub of automobiles and components at the two-day AUTOSCM 2010 seminar on automobile supply chain industry organised by CII, Nassif said, “India needs to solve all the infrastructure issues for increasing auto components supply to other countries.”

Global logistics firm DHL CEO (Global Forwarding) Christoph Remund said that in years to come the automobile industry’s real growth is expected from the Middle Eastern, Asian and Latin American markets.

Port of Zeebrugge, Belgium representative Sven De Wachter said the supply chain industry must be recognised by Indians. Heaping praises over the Indian government’s endeavour to draft a policy (for this industry), he said it should happen at a ‘rapid pace’.

He added that India’s domestic market is driving the economy and because of it the country was not affected by the global financial crisis.

Law & Kenneth bags Renault's account (http://www.topnews.in/law-kenneth-bags-renaults-account-2267176)
Submitted by Devang Murthy on Tue, 07/20/2010 - 15:40.

Under a major development in the strategies of the French auto major, Renault, Law & Kenneth has recently bagged its account for creative duties in the Indian market.

Following a two-tier pitch, which had Saatchi & Saatchi, Publicis Ambience and Law & Kenneth as finalists, the auto major has recently zeroed in on Law & Kenneth as its partner for the creative duties in the domestic circuit.

While the Chennai wing of the agency will handle the integrated duties including digital, promos and events for the automaker, experts estimate the total business to be generated from the auto major to be close to around Rs. 50 crore.

It is to be mentioned here that Publicis handles the creative account for Renault worldwide while its media arm Zenith Optimedia takes care of the media duties for the auto major. Moreover, Law & Kenneth has worked with names like Skoda in the past and should be able to give a perfect touch of creative yet innovative advertising in its media campaigns.

Renault entered India with a JV agreement with M&M which the home-growth company bought earlier this year.

its somewhat huge

^^its somewhat huge

It is ETA Star Globevill a Integrated Township

http://www.etastar.com/news-1-668-1-Globevill-to-get-launched-in-July.html

சென்னை : ஜப்பானை தலைமையிடமாகக் கொண்டு இயங்கும் கோப் ஸ்டீலின் ஒரு அங்கமான கொபேல்கோ கிரேன் கம்பெனி, சென்னையில் உற்பத்தி யூனிட்டை அமைக்கிறது. இந்த யூனிட்டில் கிராவ்லர் கிரேனை தயாரிக்க உள்ளதாக அந்நிறுவனம் தெரிவித்துள்ளது. இந்தியச் சந்தையில் வளர்ச்சி திருப்திகரமாக இருப்பதால், தற்போது இந்தியச் சந்தையில் நுழைய தங்கள் நிறுவனம் திட்டமிட்டுள்ளதாக கொபேல்கோ நிறுவனம் தெரிவித்துள்ளது. 1.2 பில்லியன் யென் (இந்திய மதிப்பில் ரூ. 60 கோடி ) மதிப்பீட்டில் இந்த உற்பத்தி யூனிட் அமைக்கப்பட இருப்பதாகவும், 2011ம் ஆண்டின் அக்டோபர் மாதத்திற்குள் உற்பத்தி துவங்கவிருப்பதாகவும், ஸ்ரீசிட்டி சிறப்பு பொருளாதார மண்டலத்தின் அருகில் உள்ள கொபேல்கோ கன்ஸ்ட்ரக்சன் மிஷினரி நிறுவனத்தின் ஹைட்ராலிக் எக்ஸ்கவேட்டர் பிளாண்ட் அருகில் இந்த யூனிட் அமைக்கப்பட இருப்பதாகவும், ஹைட்ராலிக் எக்ஸ்கவேட்டர் பிளாண்ட் தற்போது கட்டுமானப்பணியில் இருப்பதாகவும், 2011ம் ஆண்டின் ஜனவரி மாதத்தில் இது உற்பத்தியை துவங்க இருப்பதாகவும் அந்நஇறுவனம் வெளியிட்டுள்ள செய்திக்குறிப்பில் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது

^^ Dude.. thats SriCity. It is not Chennai or even TN. It is in AP.

The city name on the top said 'Chennai' made me to fumble..:ohno:

HM's Chennai plant could be best bet for Peugeot (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/26/stories/2010072651570200.htm)
Plant to be used for PSA-Mitsubishi's global small car project.
Murali Gopalan

Mumbai, July 25

Hindustan Motors' facility in Tiruvallur near Chennai could be the best starting point for PSA Peugeot Citroen's second innings in India, say top industry sources.

The French automaker is believed to have zeroed in on a global small car project for India (as well as for China and Latin America) to be jointly developed with Mitsubishi which, in turn, has a technical tie-up with HM to make some of its models at the Chennai plant.

The two were in the news recently for an equity alliance, a story they subsequently denied but observers of the automobile industry believe that the way forward for HM is to hive off its Chennai auto business to the PSA-Mitsubishi combine.

Quite unlike the decades-old Uttarapada plant, which is home to the Ambassador, this facility is a lot more modern with a competitive costing structure. HM, sources say, would do well to convert it into a robust profit centre.

The company had done something similar for its powertrain business some years ago which was spun off into a new, successful entity called Avtec. “There is no reason why an encore cannot be done for the Chennai plant. It will also give HM time to work out a recast plan for its Uttarpada operations,” sources said.

From PSA's point of view, a readymade facility will help save costs and time. The company has been scouting for a facility in the south for sometime now and the choices have boiled down to Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh.

Since Mitsubishi has been identified as its ally in emerging markets, sources say the HM plant will serve the purpose adequately. The only hitch is that it may not offer the kind of capacity that the PSA-Mitsubishi duo could be contemplating in the long-term.

Ideal route

“However, this could be an ideal way for the two to kick-start the India project on the lines of what Volkswagen did by using the Skoda plant initially before moving into its own facility near Chennai,” an auto executive told Business Line. To that extent, PSA could even go for an SKD (semi-knocked down) assembly of some top-end models as part of its brand-building exercise before getting into bigger numbers with the small car. Whether this will lead to acquiring more land near the existing facility or moving to a greenfield location remains to be seen.

Should HM decide to adopt this route, it may either sell its existing Chennai auto business or opt to be a contract manufacturer for the PSA-Mitsubishi combine.

Nearly 15 years ago, when Peugeot had first entered India, its then partner Premier had done something similar by hiving off its auto business at the Kalyan plant near Mumbai to create PAL-Peugeot. Will history repeat itself with India's other veteran automobile resident?

^^Great news.....this along with another good news regarding MoEF clearance for the Elevated highway would reinforce the infra development for the industries..now eagerly waiting for extension of metro to S'pudur

what about mahindra & mahindra .was it is in construction ?

HM's Chennai plant could be best bet for Peugeot (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/26/stories/2010072651570200.htm)
Plant to be used for PSA-Mitsubishi's global small car project.
Murali Gopalan

Mumbai, July 25

Ideal route

“However, this could be an ideal way for the two to kick-start the India project on the lines of what Volkswagen did by using the Skoda plant initially before moving into its own facility near Chennai???,” an auto executive told Business Line.