i think it's just a provocation because you know that it 's not the best! it doesn't even surpass istanbul. I prefer to say nothing about lille that technological above.

If i make a rank knowing all the characteristics this is it:

1/lille
2/Istanbul TT
3/Velstins
4/Cardiff
5/St petersburg
6/ Solna
7/Amsterdam
Man, let me tell you something.... The way you are bragging on every thread and because of your style of speaking and the way you practically consider everybody stupid, who has a different taste, other than yours, makes people wanna hate that stadium in Lille. Which is a pity, because it's a great stadium they are building there.
BUT understand that it's YOU, who makes people wanna say bad things about that stadium, not the construction itself.

You should take a few days break from this forum, and think about it.....(Lille stadium-GOOD, you-BAD)

^^ May god hear you :D

+1

Axel try to not compare everything to Lille stadium. Since I joined the forum You always speak how Lille sadium is the best in the world/all other stadiums suck...

i can't understand how a 21 st century arena doesn't even have a business belt :ohno:
When you about it is a regression compare to velstins arena schalke

If i make a rank knowing all the characteristics this is it:

1/lille
2/Istanbul TT
3/Velstins
4/Cardiff
5/St petersburg
6/ Solna
7/Amsterdam
ok :) but this roof is not a progression just a regression! it is the same than velstins made in early 2000's and they reproduce the same although some new technics to avoid cumbersome sky have been inplemented :(


And Stop saying Velstins all the time....It's Veltins. One good German beer. Cheers! :cheers1:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Flasche_Veltins.jpg/220px-Flasche_Veltins.jpg

:lol: sorry for velstins!

No no i like solna but those cables are very disturbing! don't forget that some matches are played afternoon even in france!

But when you have euro, a lot of matches are daytime...remember WC 2006 (frankfurt,shclake04)

Man, let me tell you something.... The way you are bragging on every thread and because of your style of speaking and the way you practically consider everybody stupid, who has a different taste, other than yours, makes people wanna hate that stadium in Lille. Which is a pity, because it's a great stadium they are building there.
BUT understand that it's YOU, who makes people wanna say bad things about that stadium, not the construction itself.

You should take a few days break from this forum, and think about it.....(Lille stadium-GOOD, you-BAD)

awesome stadium.


But,please, don't link axel with the stadium of Lille

:lol: sorry for velstins!

No no i like solna but those cables are very disturbing! don't forget that some matches are played afternoon even in france!

But when you have euro, a lot of matches are daytime...remember WC 2006 (frankfurt,shclake04)
Ok. So we are talking only about the roof structure, which you say that you don't like in Solna, but it's the best in Lille....
My opinion is that the Astana Arena, in Kazakhstan outclasses both Solna and Lille, in terms of design, cumbersome, cables, beauty, and retractable system.
So you can put that in your strange little top 7...:nuts:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=560126

Ok. So we are talking only about the roof structure, which you say that you don't like in Solna, but it's the best in Lille....
My opinion is that the Astana Arena, in Kazakhstan outclasses both Solna and Lille, in terms of design, cumbersome, cables, beauty, and retractable system.
So you can put that in your strange little top 7...:nuts:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=560126

the exterior is great! :)

But sorry the overall doesn't match solna or lille .it's not entirely closed like you see on renders! it's not a true arena

Solna is better than what i thought! yes it is in the top 10 of european arenas :)

the exterior is great! :)

But sorry the overall doesn't match solna or lille .it's not entirely closed like you see on renders! it's not a true arena

Solna is better than what i thought! yes it is in the top 10 of european arenas :)
^^
This just shows that you have no idea what you are talking about, when you start writing here. :ohno: The stadium is entirely closed, this detail being the most important as it was designed, because of the very low temperatures in Astana (which is the second coldest capital city in the world, after Ulan Bator, Mongolia. Even in early winter, late autumn, temperatures are usually below -30°C, and average annual temperatures is only 1.8°C ).
"The design introduces innovative solutions adopting high technology principles for operational management and dealing especially with harsh climatic conditions of the geography. The closed arena is heated and air-conditioned. The operable roof is an integral part of the structure...."
www.worldarchitecturenews.com (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1285)

http://i41.tinypic.com/11105z5.jpg

http://www.cabiz.net/vincent/astana/astana22.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs237.snc1/8428_184956269539_664309539_3798588_4870857_n.jpg

Of course it's only a 30k arena, so we can't compare it to Solna or Lille, but in terms of design, retractable roof system, and cladding, it's pretty much a high class construction.

Exactly. This is beautiful stadium, facade is great, roof is great, interior is great. Only capacity is problem when compared to bigger closed stadium in Europe, but Kazkhstan doesnt need 50-60k stadium. And is sure one of world's top closed stadiums.
Been there in Oct 2009, when Croatia played there.

My rating of new stadiums with retractable roof:

1 SAINT PETERSBURG - Gazprom Arena (70,000)
2 MOSCOW - VTB Arena (45,000)
3 ISTANBUL - Türk Telekom Arena (52,695)
4 SOLNA - Swedbank Arena (50,000)
5 LILLE - Le Grand Stade (50,186)

:)

http://i41.tinypic.com/11105z5.jpg

http://www.cabiz.net/vincent/astana/astana22.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs237.snc1/8428_184956269539_664309539_3798588_4870857_n.jpg

That's one amazing stadium! The facade and the roof is great. But I think the stadium had been much better if it had had closed corners like Swedbank Arena (and many other stadiums and arenas).

My rating of new stadiums with retractable roof:

1 SAINT PETERSBURG - Gazprom Arena (70,000)
2 MOSCOW - VTB Arena (45,000)
3 ISTANBUL - Türk Telekom Arena (52,695)
4 SOLNA - Swedbank Arena (50,000)
5 LILLE - Le Grand Stade (50,186)

:)

:lol::lol::lol: The french man comes for you...!

:lol::lol::lol: The french man comes for you...!

he has his opinion and i won't coment it :)

he has his opinion and i won't coment it :)

That must be very hard for you Axel.. :lol: Stay chilled man..:okay:

That must be very hard for you Axel.. :lol: Stay chilled man..:okay:

I think Axel said enough rubbish and bulls..t on this thread, and i pointed it out for him, so now he will stay quiet for a while....:lol:

4 from 5 of those retractable roof stadia are not completed, 1 is finished but without the retractable roof, 1 is just a render with groundworks only just taking place, 3 are under construction bot only at most 50% complete. I would rank them in 24 months when complete.

4 from 5 of those retractable roof stadia are not completed, 1 is finished but without the retractable roof, 1 is just a render with groundworks only just taking place, 3 are under construction bot only at most 50% complete. I would rank them in 24 months when complete.

+1 Well said.

Posted by Silver Creations in the "Stockholm projects" thread.

walking around the lake in Solna with a friend yesterday and took some pics. It looks great!
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/reseskildringar/swedbankarena02.jpg

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr316/reseskildringar/swedbankarena03.jpg

More photos posted by Boscorelli in the "Stockholm Projects" thread.:cheers:

Swedbank Arena stands has started to bend on the short end :)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/708/25220864.png

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5716/29714885.png

http://webbkameror.se/byggkameror/arenastaden/index.php

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5171/5453972985_09d3eee3ec_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/5453972985/

Nice contrast:

http://www.swedbankarena.se/files/images/flygbilder/2009december.jpg

http://www.swedbankarena.se/files/images/flygbilder/2011januari.jpg

@http://www.swedbankarena.se/files/images/flygbilder/2011januari.jpg

:banana::cheers:

I think Axel said enough rubbish and bulls..t on this thread, and i pointed it out for him, so now he will stay quiet for a while....:lol:

Don't worry, he's doing the same in the French threads ;)

Sweden women's national football team visits the stadium.

Cslnr0xgU4Y

Don't worry, he's doing the same in the French threads ;)


stop to say rubbish about me :rant:

^^ Picture (http://i8.tinypic.com/6girlsg.jpg)

They have updated the site for swedbank arena with a face lift, some new pictrures and a new movie. It seems the seats will be blue with yellow spots.

nj3XA5Kp0GY
www.swedbankarena.se

So much better!

blue seats colour is very good :okay:

i still don't like the cumbersome roof view but the project is quite good :)

D'oh! Hating the fact that there will be some restricted views behind these roof support pillars. :ohno:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/978/capturecg.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/capturecg.png/)

D'oh! Hating the fact that they'll be some restricted views behind these roof support pillars. :ohno:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/978/capturecg.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/capturecg.png/)

and i just thought, the support pillars are temporary, only at the construction :ohno:

this is just dissapointing! they should be able to build it like schalkes roof-framwork, which is similar at the tiers.

Didn't see that.. This is 2011 and they are building the arena with support pillars blocking the view. Really bad!

There are no such pilars on the first renderings (page 1 of this thread)

D'oh! Hating the fact that they'll be some restricted views behind these roof support pillars. :ohno:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/978/capturecg.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/capturecg.png/)

very dispointing for a new stadium! :mad:

it can't be considered in the top 5 of best european arenas now

omg, this sucks! I'm very disappointed! :ohno:

very dispointing for a new stadium! :mad:

it can't be considered in the top 5 of best european arenas now

I agree.

Horrible, horrible mistake. It can't be considered being the top 50 in Europe with those pillars. It's an unbelievable embarrassment for Sweden.

Aaahh. This can't be true. No no no.
Such a big roof construction, but they still need those pillar.

I agree.

Horrible, horrible mistake. It can't be considered being the top 50 in Europe with those pillars. It's an unbelievable embarrassment for Sweden.

are you sarcastic or serious?

how can they make a stadium that isn't even better than velstins built in 2002? 10 year and a regression?!! :dunno:

Technics have evolved

Money or an engineering oversight was involved, probably the former. The design has been steadily getting weaker and and weaker since the first concept renderings, so its probably budget issues. Value engineering has destroyed some beautiful ideas, thats for sure

are you sarcastic or serious?

how can they make a stadium that isn't even better than velstins built in 2002? 10 year and a regression?!! :dunno:

Technics have evolved

I am serious. I agree with you.

and i just thought, the support pillars are temporary, only at the construction :ohno:.

Me too, well this sucked so much :(

But let's move on, the video looked nice besides the sucky roof supports..

This is just incredible. Cant belive it´s true, would have moore belived seeing a marsian cooking in my kitchen . What a disappointment... :ohno:

At least, they could have put the stands stairs behind thoose pillars... :no:

That picture is wrong.
What you see is preliminary supports for the erection.

Reel picture

http://www.swedbankarena.se/images/bildbank/Arenarummet.jpg

are you sure? :|

^^ on this picture thoose pillars don't rely on anything :)

why dont you look on previous page?

http://i52.tinypic.com/2na2ww5.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f357/ShichiAkaAkuma/29714885.png

Ouch....those are some big pillars for the support. It´s not an obstructed view...it´s a reaaally obstructed view :(

@ Perre-> :lol: you wanted to wrong us !!!

those pillars are real! :mad:

well that's bad for the few guys sitting up there.... but it's still a great stadium imo

Moreover, on last render, it appears that cameras will be situated on top of third tier, which is a little bit too high to have a great view IMO!

i think the netter view imo would be in general at the second tiers! not too high, not too low.

some stadiums manage well the view from the first tiers (allianz, SDF)

some others from the hidhest (camp nou)

The worst I've seen is in Tottenham :)

the problem of tottenham that it isn't high enough! then you have the feeling of a distorsion due to the grand angle accentuated by the camera tv.

In lille it will be in the top of 3rd tiers too:

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/809/plancam2.jpg (http://img860.imageshack.us/i/plancam2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

I say it agaín.
The supports you see is preliminary stabilizing supports for the erection.
Believe it or not but Imbees picture shows the reality for both sides of the trusses.

I say it agaín.
The supports you see is preliminary stabilizing supports for the erection.
Believe it or not but Imbees picture shows the reality for both sides of the trusses.

Why are they in the new movie then?

I really hope you are correct.

Here you can see a 3D model of the stadium. The pillars only appear on one side of the stadium.

http://www.swedbankarena.se/liveseasons/live-seats/placering

yes it appears on one side and they are for real :mad:

@ perre-> recognize it! it is a joke for people who will be behind!

A very bad concepted stadium in its DNA. Sorry for me this stadium is an insult to fans.

the VIP boxes are well made without obstructions! it is justa scandal :ohno:

Yeah, it does indeed appear that the pillars are only one side of the stadium. Bizarre. :nuts:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7843/captureodz.png

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/964/capture2gm.png

I´ve now been informed (via mail) from Arenastaden that all seats will have free sight.

I´ve now been informed (via mail) from Arenastaden that all seats will have free sight.

I still don't understand why they have the pillars in the 3D model and the new movie if that is the case. Strange.

I still don't understand why they have the pillars in the 3D model and the new movie if that is the case. Strange.


The visualization is still under development and some renderings/films are based on plans where the pillars exists. They will update soon.
They thanked me for informing them, and therefore I´m thanking the one (RBM2007?) who noticed it here on SS.

I don't know much about contruction, but these pillars are maybe temporary. And will be removed after the roof is finished. But it is very strange that they are only on one side. So I really wonder why they did this.

Does somebody know the function of these pillars?

The visualization is still under development and some renderings/films are based on plans where the pillars exists. They will update soon.
They thanked me for informing them, and therefore I´m thanking the one (RBM2007?) who noticed it here on SS.

Great news!

I´ve now been informed (via mail) from Arenastaden that all seats will have free sight.

why dont you look on previous page?

http://i52.tinypic.com/2na2ww5.jpg

i still doubt :mad:
Since when in the phasis of a construction roof you put pillars in the middle of stands?! :nuts:

Liers?

But those pillars will only be there during construction. At least thats what I´ve been told... :)

it's not possible

Who are you Axel?! Stop trash talk everything all the time! If Hassemango has been informed (via mail) by Arenastaden that all seats will have free sight, then it's probably possible! If you know nothing, then say nothing!

The future will tell!

Judging by the fact that:


1) Those pillars are currently on the stadium;

2) They don't look temporary;

3) You can see them in the video;

4) A roof is usually supported by... How do we even call it? Those roof support structures;

5) You can see those (red) structures in the stadium currently supporting the roof.


I'd bet that Arenastaden concept of "all seats will have free sight" may not be exactly what we expect. Well, at least I'm not expecting them to say "Oh... Ups!"

Who are you Axel?! Stop trash talk everything all the time! If Hassemango has been informed (via mail) by Arenastaden that all seats will have free sight, then it's probably possible! If you know nothing, then say nothing!

The future will tell!

who are you too? everybody has noticed those pillars and you come here to affirm the contrary!

Do you work for this stadium? No i guess :| then i don't why you come to insult me?! :ohno:

Judging by the fact that:


1) Those pillars are currently on the stadium;

2) They don't look temporary;

3) You can see them in the video;

4) A roof is usually supported by... How do we even call it? Those roof support structures;

5) You can see those (red) structures in the stadium currently supporting the roof.


I'd bet that Arenastaden concept of "all seats will have free sight" may not be exactly what we expect. Well, at least I'm not expecting them to say "Oh... Ups!"
100% agree

This will be my final words in this discussion, and then we´ll just have to wait and see whos right/wrong? Let´s hope thats there will be no pillars and hope for the best. Because for sure evereyone hopes for the best solution for a stadium, even though the stadium isn´t your own fav-satium. Don´t you agree Axel? ;)

This is the two letters I´ve recieved from Arenataden (In swedish).

Short translation (lot of it is repeating from above)

* There will be no pillars between the roof and stand.
* All seats has free sight.
* The visualisatiion is based on plans where the supportpillars exists.
* It´s only during construction thoose pillars are there.
* They will do changes in renderings/films - small as big ones.


#1
"Hej XXXX, tack för ditt mejl. Det kommer inte vara några pelare mellan takkonstruktionen och läktarna. Alla platser har fri sikt! Det är enbart under byggtiden som dessa finns på plats.

Mvh Malin"


#2
"Hej, i samband med att vi tagit fram visualiseringen av arenan (som fortfarande är under utveckling) så ser jag att den är baserad på ritningar där vissa ”stöd”-pelare är inritade. Vi kommer göra en hel del förändringar, både små och stora, i nästa version.
Men jag måste säga att du har god syn. Och jag uppskattar att du hörde av dig."

Bästa hälsningar,

Malin"



Over and out... :)

alex, you better start to accept, solna is getting better than sarkophag stadium

AND

you have to excuse those persons involved building that stadium, thex don't konw what they are doing. if you say pillars are there, they have to be there
(excuse my ironie)

Thanks for all the updates, hassemango. Fingers crossed that the pillars are indeed only 'temporary'. :yes:

imbee->i don' t want to insist but today in my mind i see those pillars and until now they aren't removed! then i consider them as a total part of construction.

The day when they are removed, call me .

who are you too? everybody has noticed those pillars and you come here to affirm the contrary!

Do you work for this stadium? No i guess :| then i don't why you come to insult me?! :ohno:

Why I insulted you? Because in every thread in this section (except your beloved stadium in Lille) you just whine and whine! I see you as a troll. Your posts are not based on knowledge, just based on your guesses and whining.

You don't see me bullshitting every single Stadium being built. I'm trying to base all my posts on knowledge. That's me! Like in this context: If Hasse has been mailing to the construction manager of Swedbank Arena, of course I believe him. I don't just say "That's not possible".

Ps. Stop using smileys at the end of every sentence, please.

you won't show me what to post on my sentences! if i want to put smileys it's not your affair :)

I wait for the final result. But i have the right to stay sceptic when it's called "temporary" although pillars seem to stay in place.

Is it a crime to say that?

do you see "temporary pillars there?



http://www.legia.com/www/galerie/wydarzenia/2010-06-09budowa/big/1025.JPG


(by Adam Polak legia.com)


then i still doubt about the statement of construction guy

PS: please look at how many stadiums i congratulated for their beauty. stop your lies about me.

You did not read my post.


Stay sceptic if you want, but please don't talk so negative on every stadium/arena-thread.

One of the best looking one???

Far behind
Wembley,Allianz,Schalke,Dragao,Da luz....

It's just a replica of an existing stadia! it's even not a new mark!
Beautiful but not new at all in design :ohno:

Deja vu! Frankfurt replica

Frankfurt! Again


Ps. this is just an example... (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=588527) OT

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5500336184_fecfb8c88f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zivkovic/5500336184/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5258/5539801033_2b27229b14_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper-och-madeleine/5539801033/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5540381612_65cb6731ef_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper-och-madeleine/5540381612/

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5540381484_a0443123fd_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesper-och-madeleine/5540381484/

According to their Facebook page, the pillars will be removed and no place will have obstruction. And that's it!

Some pictures from their facebook page: (10 days ago)
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188551_10150113539935975_364505170974_6566388_279479_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190516_10150113540860975_364505170974_6566392_8153738_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188960_10150113541360975_364505170974_6566393_3713127_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199874_10150113541940975_364505170974_6566394_2127943_n.jpg

Don't know if this picture has been up:
http://www.swedbankarena.se/images/flygbilder/2011mars.jpg

I like these aerials.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs333.ash1/28811_398017675974_364505170974_4320264_2024880_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs360.snc4/44292_421638345974_364505170974_4948085_5076846_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs603.snc4/58310_431714385974_364505170974_5171207_5483760_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs615.snc4/59566_431714205974_364505170974_5171205_5267854_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs393.ash2/67129_473139920974_364505170974_5856697_492496_n.jpg

http://www.swedbankarena.se/images/flygbilder/2011mars.jpg

26 March 2011

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5562055938_bf604d2afc_b.jpg
by soldyrkaren

I like these aerials.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs333.ash1/28811_398017675974_364505170974_4320264_2024880_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs360.snc4/44292_421638345974_364505170974_4948085_5076846_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs603.snc4/58310_431714385974_364505170974_5171207_5483760_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs615.snc4/59566_431714205974_364505170974_5171205_5267854_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs393.ash2/67129_473139920974_364505170974_5856697_492496_n.jpg

http://www.swedbankarena.se/images/flygbilder/2011mars.jpg

I think will be a wonderful arena ... I can't wait to see it finished!!! :cheers2:

Finally a stadium of this size and quality in Scandinavia =)
Swedbank Stadion in Malmö is pure class but to small.
Parken and Ullevi are pretty big, but just ranked as 4-star stadiums.

In just 4 years Stockholm will hold an amazing standard in arenas compared how it used to be.

It will be: Swedbank Arena(50.000)
Stockholmsarenan(30.000) currently in construction here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1246057) a real beauty
Hopefully Djurgårdsarenan(19.000)
Stockholm Olympic Stadium (14.500)

Icehockey:
Ericsson Globe(13.850) will be renovated
Hovet (10.000) will also be renovated and expanded

Remarkable rearmament :cheers:

Here is how it looks right now, this month:



http://193.108.6.16/swedbankarena/images/flygbilder/2011april.jpg

Do you have pics of pillars removed?

^^ They are still there. Be patience Axel.

And that pic is probably 2 weeks old by the way.

Aerial photo update, may 2011:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228449_10150174098065975_364505170974_6940053_637107_n.jpg

The stadium looks really great. Not only the angle of the stands remind me of Mestalla but I think nobody thought about building a new stadium this way in Europe for a hell lot of years.
Plus I'm kinda tired of seeing 'pre modeled' ones like in Bucharest, Warsaw or others that tend to copy Da Luz/Emirates/Alvalade.

Pillars???? News?

Swedbank Arena
Solna

Published 5 days ago!

And one can even see Victoria tower being constructed in the distance! :)

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7195/22013810150179074390975.jpg

And the Vattenfall buildings being constructed too.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8234/21835410150179073150975.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.376910015974.157181.364505170974

You can see that the pillars are stil there..

i think it is like juve stadium: they realized due to their wrong calculation that problems should appear...then they decide to change in last minutes their plans :dunno:

but it's still one of the best stadiums u/c right now imo

I was worried too so I mailed them, this is the answer:

Swedish:
Hej, det är med glädje jag kan säga att du oroar dig i onödan. Alla platser har fri sikt. De pelare du ser är stödpelare under byggprocessen. De kommer tas bort när det fasta taket, som är ovanför läktarna, kommit på plats.

Bilderna kommer uppdateras efter hand.

Bästa hälsningar,

Malin Sparf Rydberg

Google translate: (I'm a bit lazy.. hehe)
Hi, it is with pleasure that I can say that you worry needlessly. All seats have a clear view. The pillars you see is the support pillars in the construction process. They will be removed when the permanent roof, which is above the stands, is in place.

The images will be updated in due course.

Best regards,

Malin Rydberg Sparf

We don't need to worry then. The pillars are just temporary :)

We don't need to worry then. The pillars are just temporary :)
You made my day, that would be awesome yeah! :cheers:

i think it is like juve stadium: they realized due to their wrong calculation that problems should appear...then they decide to change in last minutes their plans :dunno:

Why all this nonsense that something might be wrong? It has been known for a while that the pillars just are temporary. So far I don't see any reason to question the construction.

The debate came after this:

D'oh! Hating the fact that they'll be some restricted views behind these roof support pillars. :ohno:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/978/capturecg.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/capturecg.png/)

& this:

nj3XA5Kp0GY

The steel roof construction was made and installed by a Bosnian company:banana:

and?

and?

He is just proud of it, nothing else...

i think it is like juve stadium: they realized due to their wrong calculation that problems should appear...then they decide to change in last minutes their plans :dunno:

Jesus Christ, you just won't give up.. For the last time, the supporting pillars are temporary and will be removed. They have already begun the construction of the real support, which can be seen on the latest pictures.

H3h3, very nice to see that it`s just near the railstation. I love this:)

The debate came after this:



& this:

nj3XA5Kp0GY

Yeah, but that debate ended when it was clear that the pillars are temporary. Is there any reason to believe that the pillars eventually will not be removed?

i think it is like juve stadium: they realized due to their wrong calculation that problems should appear...then they decide to change in last minutes their plans :dunno:

they didn't realized their wrong calculation...they were aware that this kind of roof construction needs the tie roods... :bash: because the construcion of the roof of Juve arena is just leaned on the edge of the stadium that is holded by the two arches from outside...

Very few photos are leaking out from this build so we have to settle with the ones from the webcam...

Looking at the shadow it's clear that they have started construction of the actual roof now.

http://www.webbkameror.se/byggkameror/arenastaden/index.php

He is just proud of it, nothing else...

King Axelferis!!!

they didn't realized their wrong calculation...they were aware that this kind of roof construction needs the tie roods... :bash: because the construcion of the roof of Juve arena is just leaned on the edge of the stadium that is holded by the two arches from outside...

I got no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that the calculation on the roof is wrong but I can inform you that its not. The support pillars are just temporary.

The steel roof construction was made and installed by a Bosnian company:banana:

Actually the fixed roof is made and assemblied by finnish Rukki and the retractable roof is made by Hollandia.


And they are planning a railway station just outside the arena. And a huge shopping mall.
But even if the new station gets canceled the old one is just a 10 min walk away. You can actually see it in the distance in one of the helicopter pictures 1708 posted.

Absolutely lovely arena!!

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250983_10150191791320975_364505170974_7086957_3767309_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/swedbankarena

It has taken shape...

As a supporter to AIK, I'm kind of skeptic to this arena because its to big. When we had the highest spectator numbers in our history, we had a little above 20'000 per game.
That where 2006.

I can hardly see that we would get those numbers again, just because we are changing arena. I'm also kind of sure the rent for this arena will be to much. But as everyone know, the Swedish league isn't the hottest league in Europe, and we need big changes to get more spectators on the games.

We have to keep our supporter-culture, which are one of the best in Europe, and also take advantage of it.

Right now we are choosing between Swedbank Arena and StockholmsArenan until we can get a new, own arena, something like Rudolf Harbig Stadion in Dresden(a masterpiece).

I can also add that i don't like that they have 3 tiers. It should have been 1 big, or just 2. This will complicate it with the ultras-stand in for example derbies. You don't want to split the singing supporters on 2 or 3 tiers.

Can anyone guess how the acoustics will be in the arena with only 10-15'000 spectators, and the third tier "covered" as in the video earlier in this thread?

But wasn't the main point of this stadium to be a home for the national team? 50,000 is adequate for the national team. The needs of the national team are bigger than AIK, they just have to roll with it, or find their own home as you allude to.

But wasn't the main point of this stadium to be a home for the national team? 50,000 is adequate for the national team. The needs of the national team are bigger than AIK, they just have to roll with it, or find their own home as you allude to.

The thing is, that our national team, or SvFF(the Swedish Football Association), who owns the arena together with PEAB(building company i think), needs at least one tentant. They need about 80 events per year to pay everything of. AIK could "deliver" 15(+some cupmatches, maybe 2).

Beyond that, the Swedish National team only play maybe 2-3 games per year, and only 1 of these would fill the whole stadium. The games against Denmark, Germany, Holland, Portugal...you name them. The games against Malta and Moldavia doesn't have more than 15000 spectators.

Beyond these football games, with AIKs games included, they still need about 60 more events. And the most part of them need to be sold out. Concerts and such doesn't bring in so much money since the most of the revenues goes to the artists who arrange them.

So still they need to pay for at least 50 more events. I can hardly see how the Arenacompany(SvFF+PEAB) could make it.:ohno:

If than AIK, who are closer to sign a contract with StockholmsArenan(which are on it's way, being build right now), they only have about maximum 10 events per year. Can someone tell me how they are going to make it?

So, yes, they need AIK at this stadium. Djurgården, and Hammarby which also are clubs in Stockholm doesn't have enough spectators to be able to pay a high rent.

So AIK can get a great deal, since Swedbank Arena need us.

Just in today. The cost for the arena is going to be 50% higher than projected. Increase from 1.9 to 2.8 billion SEK.

how much in euro?

Just in today. The cost for the arena is going to be 50% higher than projected. Increase from 1.9 to 2.8 billion SEK.

I thought only Romanians are experts in "increasing" prices when building, but I'm surprised by the Swedish. The Romanian politicians are World champions in terms of building something for a double price than usual. You Swedish, please, don't ever become Romanians (you know what I mean :lol:) :rofl:

Just in today. The cost for the arena is going to be 50% higher than projected. Increase from 1.9 to 2.8 billion SEK.

Do you have a source?

svt.se

Do you have a source?

From 200M to 300M.

how much in euro?

Ok thanks :)

A stadium can never be too expensive, and we swedes are paying for so much other junk so when it comes to stadiums we just need to pay what it costs. It is worth it, it is football FFS!

SvFF and Romanians...same shit.

Everyone hates SvFF, since they are killing the Swedish supporterculture, but also the football itself. They hasn't just realized that yet.

Right now they are taking fines from clubs, where the supporters shouts things like "Whore" to the referee. So you guys understand what we have to deal with. Completely idiots.

This is why some of us don't want AIK to play at the nationalstadium, since it saves SvFF from "economical crisis".

I where on the information-event for StockholmsArenan today, and it starts to feel som much better. We get a so much better economic deal, the size is perfect, and we don't have to deal with idiots.

The only bad thing should be the geographic question. Even if StockholmsArenan is being build next to Södermalm, which are Hammarbys part of Stockholm, I dont see it as a too big problem. Our hockeyteam play at the hockeyarena Hovet, which are just next to StockholmsArenan. And the ecnomical question is the most important, so it does more and more look like we are going to play at Stockholmsarenan.

Actually, it looks like that all the 3 big teams in Stockholm, AIK, Djurgården and Hammarby are going to play at Stockholmsarenan.

I can hardly see djurgården build a own arena, since they don't have the money, the fans, and a good place in the table(it looks like they are going down to Superettan, the second league, where Hammarby also plays).

The thing is, that our national team, or SvFF(the Swedish Football Association), who owns the arena together with PEAB(building company i think), needs at least one tentant. They need about 80 events per year to pay everything of. AIK could "deliver" 15(+some cupmatches, maybe 2).

To pay everything or else what? The state goes bankrupt and you sell your territory to the Balkans? :lol:
I really doubt ( totally ) the guys made big loans they could pay only by having 80 full events/year.
A stadium isn't generally made for to be paid off instantly and even though it surprised me a club actually builds a 30.000 seat stadium and the NT+club 50.000 in the conditions Sweden doesn't have a huge interest in football lately.

Actually, it looks like that all the 3 big teams in Stockholm, AIK, Djurgården and Hammarby are going to play at Stockholmsarenan.

3 big teams/per stadium? Sounds pretty hard to me tbh, the guys from the national arena would probably just lower the fee with the condition of signing a longer term contract with a club or two, it's better than nothing anyway.

Beyond that, the Swedish National team only play maybe 2-3 games per year, and only 1 of these would fill the whole stadium. The games against Denmark, Germany, Holland, Portugal...you name them. The games against Malta and Moldavia doesn't have more than 15000 spectators.

We, let's look at the last qualifiers.

World Cup 2010:

Sweden-Hugary @ Rasunda: 28.000
Sweden-Portugal @ Rasunda : 33.000
Sweden-Denmark @ Rasunda : 33.000
Sweden-Malta @ Ullevi Gotteborg: 25.000
Sweden-Albania @ Rasunda : 25.000

Euro 2012:

Sweden-Hungary @ Rasunda 32.000 ( + 4.000 )
Sweden-San Marino @ Swedbank, Malmo 21.000
Sweden-Moldova @ Rasunda 25.000

+ Enthusiasm of a new stadium, I would say 50.000/game even with a team like Moldova or Albania!

I thought only Romanians are experts in "increasing" prices when building, but I'm surprised by the Swedish. The Romanian politicians are World champions in terms of building something for a double price than usual. You Swedish, please, don't ever become Romanians (you know what I mean :lol:) :rofl:
Hah, Poles are even better. A stadium that was estimated for some 30mln € in 2004 is now being nearly finished for 150 mln €. Not mentioning our national stadium going twice its cost from the initial estimates. But no worries, it's like that everywhere. Look at Wembley or the Olympic Stadium in London. Sweden is just another european country in this aspect :)

SvFF and Romanians...same shit.

Can we please skip the disrespektful nonsens about citizens of other countries?


I can hardly see djurgården build a own arena, since they don't have the money, the fans, and a good place in the table(it looks like they are going down to Superettan, the second league, where Hammarby also plays).

ZzzzZZZ. DIF are planning a stadium with a capacity of 16 000 spectators and they actually, in this case, have the supporters. The rich onces.

You make it sound like AIK is bigger than DIF or Hammarby but they are actually in the worst position of the three teams. You just claimed that your best choice is to move to the other side of town in to a stadium located where, for example, no one goes to see your ice hockey team. AIK supporters do not even travel to stockholms stadion to se an away game against BP. What makes you think they will travel to stockholmsarenan in big numbers? It is time for you to wake up and smell the coffee.

Can we please skip the disrespektful nonsens about citizens of other countries?



ZzzzZZZ. DIF are planning a stadium with a capacity of 16 000 spectators and they actually, in this case, have the supporters. The rich onces.

You make it sound like AIK is bigger than DIF or Hammarby but they are actually in the worst position of the three teams. You just claimed that your best choice is to move to the other side of town in to a stadium located where, for example, no one goes to see your ice hockey team. AIK supporters do not even travel to stockholms stadion to se an away game against BP. What makes you think they will travel to stockholmsarenan in big numbers? It is time for you to wake up and smell the coffee.

Well, we will all see. The spectatorsnumbers at the hockeygames don't only have with the lokation to do. It's an other thing that is even deeper.

And the mainsport in AIK is football, no doubt.

Playing a game against BP at Stockholm stadion? Does that sound interesting? First of all, most of the AIK supporters dislike Stockholm Stadion, since it's djurgårdens arena. The arena sucks. You can't see a damn thing. The game where shown on national TV. And, BP isn't the most attractive opponents. So simply, this is the worst case for a AIK supporter.
It wasn't even a game at home.

I don't think we are in a bad position. Neither I say we are in the best. I would say djurgården is in the worst position.

We will chose between StockholmsArenan and Swedbank Arena, and the arena that seems most attractive right now i StockholmsArenan.

The fines for playing at StockholmsArenan is first of all based on how much spectators the games have. So it isn't too bad if we would have a low spectator number in one game.

Djurgården, where are you going to play if you can't build your(daddy pays) arena at Östermalms IP?

Stockholmsarenan?

I hope you don't think that it will come investors who puts in some money when there is only 6000 spectators in the stadium.

The supporters? When where the last time you had Stockholm Stadion sold-out??

Well, we will all see. The spectatorsnumbers at the hockeygames don't only have with the lokation to do. It's an other thing that is even deeper.

And the mainsport in AIK is football, no doubt.

Playing a game against BP at Stockholm stadion? Does that sound interesting? First of all, most of the AIK supporters dislike Stockholm Stadion, since it's djurgårdens arena. The arena sucks. You can't see a damn thing. The game where shown on national TV. And, BP isn't the most attractive opponents. So simply, this is the worst case for a AIK supporter.
It wasn't even a game at home.

I don't think we are in a bad position. Neither I say we are in the best. I would say djurgården is in the worst position.

We will chose between StockholmsArenan and Swedbank Arena, and the arena that seems most attractive right now i StockholmsArenan.

The fines for playing at StockholmsArenan is first of all based on how much spectators the games have. So it isn't too bad if we would have a low spectator number in one game.

Djurgården, where are you going to play if you can't build your(daddy pays) arena at Östermalms IP?

Stockholmsarenan?

I hope you don't think that it will come investors who puts in some money when there is only 6000 spectators in the stadium.

The supporters? When where the last time you had Stockholm Stadion sold-out??

I will end this discussion now so we don't pollute the thread. I will answer you in a PM.

But I can say this. If DIF don't get permission to build their own stadium, that leaves them where AIK is in your best case scenario.

3 big teams/per stadium? Sounds pretty hard to me tbh, the guys from the national arena would probably just lower the fee with the condition of signing a longer term contract with a club or two, it's better than nothing anyway.



in Australian Rules Football, in Melbourne 9 teams play out of 2 stadiums nowdays, in the past they all had their home grounds of various sizes and quality.
Nowdays they all have top quality facilities to utilise located next to public transport.
Whilst it isn't a perfect setup it has been massively positive for the clubs in crowd numbers, membership numbers and financial return for the clubs and league.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3439/5762648346_1937b45e0e_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29490091@N07/5762648346/

bad, bad news...

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Swedish prosecutors on Wednesday filed bribery charges against six people leading the construction of a new 50,000-seat stadium for the national football team.

The investigation centers on Sune Reinhold, a former city official who is accused of receiving more than 900,000 kronor (nearly $150,000) in illegal compensation from the companies that are building the stadium in Solna, a suburb of Stockholm.

Four top managers for the construction project and the mayor of Solna were charged in the case for approving the payments.

All defendants deny wrongdoing and claim Reinhold was compensated for legal consulting work, prosecutors said.

The 2.8 billion kronor ($454 million) stadium is being built in Solna to replace Rasunda, the current home of the Swedish national team, and is scheduled to be completed in 2012.

Chief prosecutor Alf Johansson said Reinhold, 66, received payments between 2008 and 2010 for consulting work he did for the builders, while he was employed as the most senior civil servant in the city of Solna. Reinhold has since left the post.

Johansson said the consulting services were incompatible with Reinhold's work for the city and violated bribery laws.

Reinhold did not immediately answer calls seeking comment. His lawyer Hans Strandberg was traveling and would not be available for comment Wednesday, his law firm said.

Solna Mayor Lars-Erik Salminen announced he would take a "time out" from politics during the investigation but maintained his innocence.

If convicted, the defendants could face prison sentences ranging between six months and six years.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/Bribery-charges-filed-in-Swedish-stadium-probe-1414660.php

bad, bad news...


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/Bribery-charges-filed-in-Swedish-stadium-probe-1414660.php

I like it! :lol:

Im afraid these kind of things are far more common than you think, even in sweden...

sweden is like france :|

What actually brought up the price wasnt the cost for construction. It was for other expenses. Like bribes :lol:

Ive tried to upload a bunch of pictures but the mods wont accept them. Maybe its the company logo on them but I cant find anything about that in the rules.

The supporting steel is now complete on the south end and the roof is being laid on the east side.

http://swedbankarena.se/images/flygbilder/2011juni.jpg
Pic from: www.swedbankarena.se

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268081_10150231797540975_364505170974_7408348_2740094_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/swedbankarena

almost finished then i guess pillars case is fixed?

almost finished then i guess pillars case is fixed?
No they will stay there forever, the director just lied to all...there will even be more pillars i.e. on the playground, trust me, they lie, they all lie, it won't be a soccer arena it will be a pillar arena...

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268064_10150233284465975_364505170974_7427610_2011440_n.jpg
http://www.facebook.com/swedbankarena

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3524/5846480098_6722943cab_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/5846480098/

almost finished then i guess pillars case is fixed?

there was never a 'case' to fix in the first place, the pillars were temporary in nature used to secure the roof during installation as was made clear on numerous occasions in the thread.

Update by Neroje
Some on site pictures for the Swedbank Arena :)
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3269.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3278.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3285.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3300.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3302.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/Neroje/IMG_3328.jpg

3 distinctive tiers are very good :)

wow on those pics that roof looks like a beast of a roof! Impressive!

And no problem with the pillars as far I can see :)

^^ The pillars were always on the other side. In fact, I think you can just see one of them in this image:

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2916/img3300j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/img3300j.jpg/)

Oh I see. But assuming the pic was taken at the top of the stand, and looking to the other side looks like it, the angle of the pillar suggests it might not interfere with supporters view. :dunno:

Great update! Thanks for posting.

The arena looks good, but I think it looks a bit to split up. Three tiers might just be to much for a 50k stadium/arena but we will see when it's finished.
Does anyone know how those large fans will work? The grass will need a good airflow but can you really achieve that with fans at roof level?

looks bigger than 50k

It looks exactly 50k to my eyes.

looks bigger than 50k

yes the same feeling! i think of a 60k because it seems bigger than velstins or ex aequo.

But i begin to love this stadium because it gives this intimidating effect and great deepness.

I recognize to have citicize too early the stadium :) i apologize then !

A great arena is coming.

It looks exactly 50k to my eyes.

thats quite a talent you have

thats quite a talent you have

I agree with him. If anything it would be smaller.

Great update! Thanks for posting.

The arena looks good, but I think it looks a bit to split up. Three tiers might just be to much for a 50k stadium/arena but we will see when it's finished.


1: You will be able to do Swedbank Arena to a ~30k stadium when it's finished, that's one of the reasons why it's 3 tiers. AIK, the football club in Solna, will never be able to fill the stadium against teams like Mjallby, Gefle, Hacken etc. So they will be able to split the stadium for AIK and have the full capacity for the national team. The architects are not stupid :)

It could be done like this:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3104/namnlstc.jpg

Excuse me for spelling mistakes, I'm tired.

Great pictures. Almost exactly like the ones i tried to upload a couple of weeks ago :D

1708 even took pictures of the supports outside the arena. They are connected to the ones coming down from the roof. But dont worry, they arent temporary either!

The last I heard about it the grass will be fake =(

There is about 3 km of walkways in the roof. And the first section of the retractable roof is lying outside the arena waiting to get lifted into position :colgate:

Awesome stadium! Can anyone tell when the stadium is finished?

Off topic: Sweden will get more new stadiums. Kalmar FF - Guldfageln Arena (finished), Malmö FF - Swedbank Stadion (finished), IFK Göteborg, GAIS, Örgryte IS - Nya Gamla Ullevi (finished), AIK Solna - Swedbank Arena (under construction), Hammarby IF - Stockholmsarenan (under construction).

This is great to see!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/5954117111_80296444de_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enjork/5954117111/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5954115373_47a989ec67_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enjork/5954115373/

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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6030/5954654578_aef5dcd530_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enjork/5954654578/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6018/5954677284_d541f799a6_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enjork/5954677284/

The last I heard about it the grass will be fake =(


No. I can't be true. :ohno:

No. I can't be true. :ohno:

Apparently it is to expensive to change grass every third month or what it was. But I sure hope they change their minds about this.

And from the start the space between the top tier and the roof was glas all around the arena but they changed that too cause of costs >(

What alternatives exist? Desso Grassmaster and FieldTurf?

great stadium.. :)
btw, where is solna?

btw, where is solna?
Outskirts of Stockholm, accessible by public transport pretty much like the rest of the capital, to my knowledge.

Outskirts of Stockholm, accessible by public transport pretty much like the rest of the capital, to my knowledge.

Well, Solna is a part of the urban area of Stockholm (it is connected with the Inner city, but not entirelly).

i like very much this architecure model as american stadiums

That makes one of us.

Solna is simply a part of Stockholm, they are probably using it to avoid mistaking it with the "other" Stockholm arena currently under construction.

Solna is simply a part of Stockholm, they are probably using it to avoid mistaking it with the "other" Stockholm arena currently under construction.
Actually they've been using it years before works on the other arena were even planned. Ever since I remember the painful Sweden-Poland games were played at "Rasunda in Solna" :)

The last I heard about it the grass will be fake =(



What? Where did you hear that? Arent the Swedish national team suppose to play there?

How with the acoustics/atmosphere be in the stadium if the highest tier is "covered", and there are about 15 000 people inside?

I'm getting more and more positive to this stadium, now when I've talked with one of the leaders of the project, Sune Hellströmmer.

He says that my club, AIK, will be able to remove the seats on for example, the North stand, so we get an "ultra-stand" if we want to.

If you would chose one other stadium that is very similar to this one, which stadium would it be?

I want more thoughts about this project, since my club, AIK, are not so far away from the decision of where we will play our games from 2013.

Some newer pictures of 'Swedbank arena':

(c) webbkameror.se
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4095/arenastaden3live.jpg

(c) webbkameror.se
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6586/arenastaden4live.jpg

Well, that didn't work...

Links to some videos of the national team visiting the arena.

http://www.dn.se/webbtv/sport/har-inspekteras-den-nya-nationalarenan/
http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/sport/article13438303.ab

http://i56.tinypic.com/w970qu.jpg


http://webbkameror.se/bilder/arenan_dag.jpg

Solid design, can't really go wrong with this one. One of those that will look even better than the concept art. Bravo Sweden

I am not sure whether these illustrations have already been posted, but this is how the new arena will be illuminetated during various events:

(c) swedbankarena.se
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2676/swedbanklarge550x250.jpg

(c) swedbankarena.se
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6691/swedbankarena2.jpg

Also, please note that one in each pair of 'black walls' is a screen.

Apparently the reason they've chosen a roof with trusses that block the sky is because it can carry up to 250 tons of extra equipment were as a roof like the one on stockholmsarenan or lille for example almost can't carry any extra equipment. Also I am now a 100% certain (if any one still doubts) that the pillars on the east side will be removed once the roof is finished.

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New visualisation video

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^^ Hmmm, can't say I'm convinced about the colour of the seats in that vid.

Regular seats (blue and spots of yellow)
http://i.imgur.com/5kAtb.jpg

Live season second tier seats.
http://i.imgur.com/z38jJ.jpg

Lounge seats
http://i.imgur.com/bg0XY.jpg

Lounge
http://i.imgur.com/X72X6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zr9q2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/h1mKX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bSCKE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Da7UQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c4hOG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YHTcA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ug38H.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oRtLn.jpg

Event area on the south short side
http://i.imgur.com/vx5V5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Fe4KJ.jpg

Very fast construction!!!

very surprising! the stadium is almost finished. I didn't see it coming so fast :uh:

Amazing job!

Hey loool what it is this "dancing with the stars" configuration?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4070/solna.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/solna.jpg/)

:lol:

I notice that the screenboard is below its usual level on this pic?! :uh:

Im not really that fond of the seatingpattern either. One thing that would look
cool is if they had something similar to Donbass Arena but with blue and yellow.

Apparently the reason they've chosen a roof with trusses that block the sky is because it can carry up to 250 tons of extra equipment were as a roof like the one on stockholmsarenan or lille for example almost can't carry any extra equipment. Also I am now a 100% certain (if any one still doubts) that the pillars on the east side will be removed once the roof is finished.

That's nice to hear, also as you said in the Stockholm projects thread there will be real grass not plastic as someone mentioned in this thread before.

Thanks for the update!

Really nice update NesC! Thanks!

Thank oyu very much for an amazing updat! The arena looks great and it is nice to see it being built so quickly. This arena will be a smash. :okay:

Great pictures! TY.
Does anyone know the EXACT capacity of the stadium? Don´t think it will be 50 000 exactly...

Great pictures! TY.
Does anyone know the EXACT capacity of the stadium? Don´t think it will be 50 000 exactly...

They wont know untill the seats are actually put in place.
The capacity during domestic games will be around 52 500 by the way.

That's nice to hear, also as you said in the Stockholm projects thread there will be real grass not plastic as someone mentioned in this thread before.

Correct. And they will chance the grass around four times every year.

They wont know untill the seats are actually put in place.
The capacity during domestic games will be around 52 500 by the way.



OK, thanks. :)

How high will the roof be?

Anyone know for sure?

Great pictures! TY.
Does anyone know the EXACT capacity of the stadium? Don´t think it will be 50 000 exactly...

50.000 to 65.000 or more. :cheers: Not an exact figure, though. :D

How high will the roof be?

Anyone know for sure?

From pitch to roof - about 52 meters.
And yes, I'm sure.

From pitch to roof - about 52 meters.

Really? I thought it would have the same height as Amsterdam Arena.

50.000 to 65.000 or more. :cheers: Not an exact figure, though. :D

Well, I knew that. Thanks anyway. :)

Well, I knew that. Thanks anyway. :)

You are very welcome. :D

Hey loool what it is this "dancing with the stars" configuration?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4070/solna.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/solna.jpg/)


The image looks great! Is there are larger picture available?

Hi there, newly registred here, visited the the stadium the other day. It´s realy tight inside, good feeling.

Saw someone commenting on the grass. It will be real grass, nothing else, no grassmaster or such.

Regarding the roof it´s also designed/built to hold/withstand 3 meters of snow, a factor up here in the north (has never been 3 meters in the Stockholm area though).

If someone has any questions that i might be able to answer, don´t hesitate.

Do you know any reason not to choose a reinforcement system like Desso Grassmaster? (which is not an artificial turf like FieldTurf)

Do you know any reason not to choose a reinforcement system like Desso Grassmaster? (which is not an artificial turf like FieldTurf)

Think KingRat got that one wrong. He meant that there won't be any plastic-grass.
Grassmaster is a "add-on" for natural grass and makes it "stronger".

I'm kind of sure they will use Desso Grassmaster on this arena since the weather relations aren't the best up here.

Loranga, sorry it´s just as Ikaros said, no plastic at least.

They said they will change grass 3-4 times/year depending on ware and tare and I kind of just assumed that you didn´t do that if you have grass master.

Thanks guys. Yes, it makes sense not to use a Grassmaster (I think) if you're gonna change the grass that often. I guess then the reason going for Frequent Grass Replacement instead of Grassmaster, is the heavy use of non-sports events in this stadium.

Still, the dark and cold winters, and the dark roof (even with the hole open), makes this stadium ideal for some kind of artificial solution. Perhaps next (or next-next) generation of artificial turf will be enough good - I believe some kind of solution (not unsimilar to Grassmaster) where you combine artificial turf with grass.

New Pictures ?

http://swedbankarena.se/images/flygbilder/2011september.jpg

New webcam inside the stadium.

http://www.liveevent.se/arenastaden/historik/arenastaden_4_13_1280.jpg
http://www.swedbankarena.se/kamera.asp

Nice to see the cladding coming up:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5857/image233p.jpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5885/image226l.jpg

Stairs
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1274/image238.jpg

Verkligen skönt att se - det blir Sveriges stolthet :cheers:

Japp!

One thing im curious about is how Swedbank Arena will attract big international artists. Talked to a friend the other day who works at AEG and he said that they will easily get all the big artists to Stockholmsarenan while Swedbank arena will have a hard time get any big artist to play there.
A real shame if its true because i really like Swedbank Arena and it will be a true gem once its finished while i dont fancy Stockholmsarenan that much.

One thing im curious about is how Swedbank Arena will attract big international artists. Talked to a friend the other day who works at AEG and he said that they will easily get all the big artists to Stockholmsarenan while Swedbank arena will have a hard time get any big artist to play there.
A real shame if its true because i really like Swedbank Arena and it will be a true gem once its finished while i dont fancy Stockholmsarenan that much.
AEG surely have got all the contacts and contracts with stars to bring them to Stockholm. But at the same time they don't have the one simple advantage Swedbank Arena will have - country's largest capacity. So the competition may be tough, but let's not say it'll necessarily go one way...

How much influence does AEG have over "mega stars"? I mean, bands/artists like U2, Metallica, Kiss, Rolling Stones, AC/DC could easily sell out a 65000 Swedbank Arena once per year. (any more suggestions?)

Nice!!! :cheers:

Sundbyberg is located just next to Solna. To the West/Southwest, to be exactly.
It's rumored that there are plans building a AIK Center, with football stadium, hockey arena and other facilities not so far from the place where Swedbank arena is situated. According to the plans, the "center" should be finished in 2017. Sounds fantastic to my ears!

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/sundbyberg-planerar-ny-megaarena-for-aik

Sundbyberg is located just next to Solna. To the West/Southwest, to be exactly.
It's rumored that there are plans building a AIK Center, with football stadium, hockey arena and other facilities not so far from the place where Swedbank arena is situated. According to the plans, the "center" should be finished in 2017. Sounds fantastic to my ears!

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/sundbyberg-planerar-ny-megaarena-for-aik
This is old news, and these rumours has been denied by the chairman of AIK.

AIK will most likely play at Swedbank arena the next 10 years at least.

This is old news, and these rumours has been denied by the chairman of AIK.

AIK will most likely play at Swedbank arena the next 10 years at least.

What`s all this about then?

http://www.aikfotboll.se/Article.aspx?contentID=4765

This is old news, and these rumours has been denied by the chairman of AIK.

AIK will most likely play at Swedbank arena the next 10 years at least.

Trust me, it's just "denied" by him. How often do people say deny, and later it's shown that it's true? Why would he confirm it in times like these? The best thing is to shut up and wait until it's time to tell it. You know what i mean. People lie everyday.

And like 0657 said/linked;

"
...
Under mötet kommer följande punkter utöver formalia att avhandlas:
- Presentation av arbetet med egen arena.
- Information om Arenapanelens rekommendation till val av arena.
- Omröstning.
...
"

"Presentation of the work of a own arena."

You are just jealous.

Det här händer!


Vecka 39
• Vi har rivit montagestöd 3 och 4, vilket innebär att fasta taket är monterat!

From the official homepage of the Swedbank Arena. They are saying the
support pillars are removed. Do anyone have some picture of this? :)

In this picture you can see that at least two has been removed.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wa1FDr3ZsbA/Tn75Sxg4xCI/AAAAAAAACYU/I69IqKFhihw/s1600/DSCN3202.JPG

From http://sektion-g.blogspot.com/

The group in charge of investigating where AIK should play in the future has delivered their recommendation today. And they have recommended Swedbank arena. It is still up to the supporters to decide though.

by brandsvig

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6185603946_d5f187e185_b.jpg

Amazing update! Thank you.

What is this "Live Seasons" about? Some guarantee that the best(?) artists will perform there? http://swedbankarena.se/liveseasons

woww!

It looks really huge! It will look a little less bombastic though when the platform is up I guess. But I'm loving it so far.

http://193.108.6.16/swedbankarena/images/flygbilder/2011oktober.jpg

Apparently the reason they've chosen a roof with trusses that block the sky is because it can carry up to 250 tons of extra equipment
I wonder, what is this "extra equipment" supposed to be?

yes what are those equipments? :nuts:

the elements of decoration for show tv like "dancing with stars" :lol:

yes what are those equipments? :nuts:

the elements of decoration for show tv like "dancing with stars" :lol:
Ok, like lightning and stuff...

Well at least it's a real football arena unlike Lilles handball/swimming/basket/fotball arena. :lol:

Ok, like lightning and stuff...

Well at least it's a real football arena unlike Lilles handball/swimming/basket/fotball arena. :lol:

Well said. This stadium is also considerably better than Lille as well. Looks amazing

Perhaps you are right...perhaps :)

Perhaps you are right...perhaps :)
We'll see. You knever know until they're completed.

http://www.dt.se/image_processor/1.3992876.1318399686!/image/3219051900.jpg_gen/derivatives/wide/3219051900.jpg?maxWidth=468

The connecting arena hotel has now oficialy started construction.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/neopokekun/photos/swedbankstaduimarenahotel.png

Owners hotel and commercials area?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6244746036_4f24e900ca_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/6244746036/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6244731268_4ecbabe72b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldyrkaren/6244731268/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6173/6250764367_a8eab85684_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62498250@N02/6250764367/

That looks amazing! Cant wait untill its finished :cheers:

A news segment about the two stadiums that are beeing built in Stockholm (Swebank and Stockholmsarenan). The municipality and other experts are worried about how these two stadiums are gonna survive as Stockholm "only" has about 8-900 000 inhabitans and would need about 10 times as much as that in order for the building of two such large stadiums to be profitable as they have to compete for large events. The expert in these matters who are beeing interviewed feels that Stockholm have dug its own grave by building two arenas in stead of one...
The segment is in Swedish...


http://svtplay.se/v/2577056/ekonomi_for_tva_arenor_finns_inte

A news segment about the two stadiums that are beeing built in Stockholm (Swebank and Stockholmsarenan). The municipality and other experts are worried about how these two stadiums are gonna survive as Stockholm "only" has about 8-900 000 inhabitans and would need about 10 times as much as that in order for the building of two such large stadiums to be profitable as they have to compete for large events. The expert in these matters who are beeing interviewed feels that Stockholm have dug its own grave by building two arenas in stead of one...
The segment is in Swedish...


http://svtplay.se/v/2577056/ekonomi_for_tva_arenor_finns_inte

What this experts forget is that two arenas will be destroyed (Råsunda and Söderstadion) and that one will not be prohibit for football (Stockholm Stadion).

What this experts forget is that two arenas will be destroyed (Råsunda and Söderstadion) and that one will not be prohibit for football (Stockholm Stadion).

He also forgets that people lives outside of Stockholm, suburbs etc. Actually, stadiums like these will have people from whole Sweden travelling to watch events and artists.

Urban area; 2,1 million

Urban area; 2,1 million
And Stockholm will grow with around 300 000 people until 2030.

Just wondering, what other cities have two multi-sport stadiums with the capacity of 30.000 and 50.000 to compare to?

Just wondering, what other cities have two multi-sport stadiums with the capacity of 30.000 and 50.000 to compare to?

Paris : with 2 stadiums (Parc des princes - 45K and Stade de France - 80K). And we'll have 2 others stadiums (Arena 92 - 35K and maybe national stadium of rugby - 80K).

London : with 5-6 stadiums (Wembley, 2012 Olimpic Stadium, Twickenham, Emirates, Stanford Bridge, ...)

Manchester : Old Trafford (76K) and Etihad (48K)

Glasgow : Celtic' park (67K), Ibrox (51K) and Hampden (51K)

Madrid : Bernabeu (80K) and Vicente Calderon (57K)

Barcelona : Camp nou (90K), Cornellia El prat (40K) and Montjouic (56K)

Torino : Juve Arena (42K) and Olimpico (28K)

And you have anothers exemple in the world : Moscow, Melbourne, Tokyo, ...

I think he meant with 30k and 50k exactly.

In that case, there's Porto.

I think he meant with 30k and 50k exactly.

In that case, there's Porto.

yes, I forgot Porto and Lisbon in that case.
But finding a city with 2 stadium's capicity of 30K and 50K, that's not easy...

Hamburg has a 30.000 and a 50.000 stadium with Millerntor and Imtech Arena, but the greater Hamburg area has around 4,3 million citizens and Hamburg itself has 1,8 millions so it is a little bit more than stockholm.

Yeah, but one have to look at what Stockholm needs, and thats also whats beeing questioned here. Ok, other cities might have stadiums with a 30 and 50k capasity, but most of them are bigger than Stockholm, and thats whats worrying, that the demand isnt there and that it might have been enough to just build, say, Swedbank Arena. But the question remains to be answered and we won`t know the answer untill they have been built and several years have passed. And also, 6 billion SEK (just under 800M Euros) worth of tax-money was spendt on these two stadiums. As for Swedbank arena, AIKs rent will only cover 3% of the inncom needed for Swedbank to break even. Stockholmsarenan will have two teams, Bajen and DIF, playing there and might get more from those two teams than Swedbank will from AIK, but still.. There is also a question, and this i know nothing about, to what extent will Stockholm and these two arenas be able to attract big enough artists and arrange big enough shows to generate enough revenue in order for these two stadiums to be profitable? And not to mention that the two arenas have to fight amongst them selves as regards to who is gonna be the host of what..

And also, 6 billion SEK (just under 800M Euros) worth of tax-money was spendt on these two stadiums.

Not true, 16.6% of the est. 2.8 billion was invested by Solna city for Swedbank Arena, the rest is private investors (Swedish FA, Peab, Fabege and Jernhusen).

Stockholm city is funding Stockholmsarenan through their company Stockholm Globe Arena Fastigheter at a cost of est. 2.7 billion sek.

There is also a question, and this i know nothing about, to what extent will Stockholm and these two arenas be able to attract big enough artists and arrange big enough shows to generate enough revenue in order for these two stadiums to be profitable? And not to mention that the two arenas have to fight amongst them selves as regards to who is gonna be the host of what..

Stockholmsarenan will probably have no problems attracting events outside of sports since the operator is AEG (www.aegworldwide.com).

Yeah, but one have to look at what Stockholm needs, and thats also whats beeing questioned here. Ok, other cities might have stadiums with a 30 and 50k capasity, but most of them are bigger than Stockholm, and thats whats worrying, that the demand isnt there and that it might have been enough to just build, say, Swedbank Arena.
So where would Hammarby and Djurgården play then?

Stockholm need new arenas, so why not build some nice ones with roof so that you can play in winter time. :)

Not true, 16.6% of the est. 2.8 billion was invested by Solna city for Swedbank Arena, the rest is private investors (Swedish FA, Peab, Fabege and Jernhusen).

Stockholm city is funding Stockholmsarenan through their company Stockholm Globe Arena Fastigheter at a cost of est. 2.7 billion sek.

Sorry, my bad. But never the less, didnt the guy in that news segment mention something about both stadiums going over budget by about 1b sek?