Top 25 Highrise Skylines

Updated June 2010

1. Asia: 10
2. North America: 8
3. Europe: 5
4. Australia: 2
5. South America: 1


1. Hong Kong CBD, China (NEW!)Weighted average score: 15.03* (world rank before: 1)**

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/hongkong.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ekmai/3750306711/)

2. New York - Manhattan, USA 13.99 (2)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/newyork.jpg

3. Chicago, USA 13.54 (3)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/chicago.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iamhydrogen/3596199497/in/set-72157607854056981/)

4. Sydney, Australia 12.4 (4)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/sydney.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31028588@N08/2899876982/)

5. Shanghai, China 12.26 (5)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/shanghai.jpg

6. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 12.25 (8)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/kualalumpur.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksen/2466778191/)

7. Singapore CBD, Singapore 11.93 (11)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/singapore.jpg
Image Credit: Rafflescity

8. Tokyo, Japan 11.93 (7)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/tokyo-1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20687176@N04/3602530889/)

9. Toronto: City, Canada 11.90 (6)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/toronto.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29557420@N05/4178977716/)

10. Frankfurt am Main, Germany 11.83 (13)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/Frankfurt.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62471466@N00/412395697/)

11. Melbourne, Australia 11.5 (9)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/melbourne.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35260967@N03/3274294930/)

12. Shenzhen, China 11.47 (25)

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zexoy1.jpg

13. Seattle, USA 11.41 (12)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/seattle.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryanscott/3774237116/in/set-72157603743689308/)

14. Vancouver CBD, Canada - 11.4 (18)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/vancouver.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rtrska/3296488945/)

15. San Francisco, USA 11.39 (15)

http://i49.tinypic.com/2056qm9.jpg

16. Seoul, South Korea 11.04 (31)

http://i47.tinypic.com/ht8947.jpg

17. Guangzhou, China 11.01 (17)

http://i45.tinypic.com/2vbuh5v.jpg

18. London City, UK 10.8 (26)

http://i50.tinypic.com/k4gj82.jpg

19. Dubai, UAE10.64 (10)


http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/dubai.jpg (http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/travel/burj-dubai-worlds-tallest-building/20091228-lgz3.html)

20. Minneapolis, USA - 10.64 (24)

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt17/kiraneg/minneapolis.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryanscott/3474895584/)

21. Bangkok, Thailand 10.62 (20)

http://i48.tinypic.com/35bi7fk.jpg

22. Warsaw, Poland 10.46 (30)

http://i50.tinypic.com/w14v0l.jpg

23. Rotterdam, Netherlands 10.43 (35)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2d9s18l.jpg

24. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 10.42(14)

25. Moscow, Russia 10.41 (28)

http://i49.tinypic.com/md09ll.jpg

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26. Los Angeles, USA 10.38 (26)

27. Brisbane, Australia 10.34 (27)

28. La Défense, Paris, France 10.33 (28)

29. Beijing, China10.28 (21)

30. Calgary, Canada 10.16 (37)

31. Sao Paulo, Brazil10.03 (22)

32. Buenos Aires, Argentina 9.91 (34)

33. Gold Coast, Australia 9.9 (33)

34. Montréal, Canada 9.83 (36)

35. Jakarta, Indonesia9.77 (19)

36. Miami, USA 9.68 (39)

37. Houston, USA 9.68 (38)

38. Pittsburgh, USA 9.67 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

39. Philadelphia, USA 9.59 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

40. Auckland, New Zealand 9.53http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

41. Metro Manila, Philippines 9.43 (23)

42. Paris de Ville / Central Paris, France 9.36 (16)

43. Perth, Australia 9.32 (42)

44. Dallas, Texas 9.30 (43)

45. Canary Wharf, London, UK 9.30 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

46. Atlanta, USA 9.23 (44)

47. Madrid, Spain 9.09 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

48. Charlotte, USA 9.04 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

49. Mexico City, Mexico 8.93 (38)

50. Boston, USA 8.89 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

51. Berlin, Germany 8.89 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

52. Barcelona, Spain 8.62 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif

53. Istanbul, Turkey 8.31 (39)

54. Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel 8.03 http://www.hpb.gov.sg/uploadedImages/HPB_Online/Services_and_Partnership/HZ_New_Icon.gif




* Methology:
Scores are based on Weighted Matrix (http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/enterprise-solutions/constructing-a-weighted-matrix-13125)method. Because of the time required to perform the (mostly) manual calculations, only those cities that received ~400 or more votes have been included in the counting.

** Position in January 2010 using the old counting system (i.e. % of 10-point votes of total votes).

^^^^Just looking at the rankings, you can tell this analysis is flawed.:) Try two more ways of splicing the data, combine all three results and see how your rankings change.

Frankfurt should be higher but it's a pretty good list IMO :yes:

Just goes to show that a thinly-populated nation can skew these sort of "popularity contests" on an internet forum, when represented by determined voting "representatives".

With the exception of the top 3, you could scatter most of the other skylines into Shanghai and they would almost disappear, save for a couple of tall structures (eg. Burj).

pretty interesting. Btw - Buenos Airies isn't in the US

i am not agree with this top, most of the people in the forum vote for your own city.

Rio better than frankfurt?? nooo. Los Angeles is better, even Shenzhen is better.

And Dubai should be higher, like 4 or 5. just look the skyline

http://i35.tinypic.com/2l5l06.jpg

The others cities are ok....

that´s what i think!!!!

The buildings look lonely, maybe that's why it's not higher :dunno:

yea maybe, just give to the city 5 years, and the top will change.

nv,

Thanks for the list!

That's North Sydney in the picture, by the way.

that's all i could find. If you know of a better picture for this thread, feel free to post it here.

That's a pretty bad angle of Bangkok but that's okay :D

Nice compilation.

Your methodology results in rankings that are for the most part similiar to mine.

...............

This is the February poll.

Hmm nice list.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2l5l06.jpg

The buildings look lonely, maybe that's why it's not higher :dunno:
The density is very poor in Dubai. It might change in the future, but we not vote "future skylines".

This is the "people choice"

To think that one of the most esthetic skylines: SINGAPORE did not even made the "runner-up" list.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/469796567_311f4a3b79.jpg

And a very impresive skyline like Shenzhen is only no 22.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/26748649_828f98a6dd.jpg

added Singapore at #10 spot

Update: added Top Historical Skylines chart.

Interesting list.

I think 50% of overall judgement should come from Mods/admins, while another 50 from ordinary members. That will be better and more precise.

well I won't disagree but Warsaw & Rotterdam over Miami?

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/empresskaliofersilia/Miami%20Skyline/miami_skyline.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/3154391851_7c52d01e92_o.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/dozerlyp/33333333333.jpg

not accurate vote
Where the heck is Seoul and Buenos Aires????
It's always the same old NYC, Hong Kong and whatsoever
Such a boring list no offense

:eek2:Wow maybe it's because I live in Sydney myself and I've seen its skyline just so many times I don't see it as anything spectacular anymore but hey, I never knew or even realised that Sydney is all the way up there at #4 against every skyline this entire world.:shocked:

well I won't disagree but Warsaw & Rotterdam over Miami?
The top is made by people's choice.

So when we rate Warsaw or Rotterdam, unconstient, we compare-it to Paris, London, but when we rate Miami, unconstient, we compare-it to New York, Chicago.

Nice to see what the people of SSC think...:)

Weird there's no Amsterdam in the list of historical skylines/highrise skylines!

Amsterdam highrise skyline

http://i43.tinypic.com/znk511.jpg

Amsterdam historical skyline
http://i42.tinypic.com/a3ea15.jpg
Flickr: Ben

http://i43.tinypic.com/eta360.jpg
Flickr: Johannes de Jong

Prague - Czech Republic is only number 8 it should be like 2 or 3.
And why is Yemen there???

Dubai in like 5-10 years it probably will be the top or near.

beijing should be in histrical list , i suppose.

beijing should be in histrical list , i suppose.

And that is because... Come on people, don not hesitate to round your arguments up.

I think 50% of overall judgement should come from Mods/admins, while another 50 from ordinary members. That will be better and more precise.

No offense intended to mods or admin but they are no more qualified. By definition, the ability to moderate and administer has nothing to do with knowledge of the world's built form. Zero. All it means is that they've made a commitment to this site.

Nice to see Seattle up in the top 12. Such a pretty city skyline.

Great list Major Deegan. You can't please everyone. ;) I think your way of making the list was detailed, and a lot of work. Thanks for your time at making the list.

toronto?
paises arabes.........moscow, etc. ?

I've checked the current Top14 ranked by % 10 point v.s. ranked by total average.

position - city - (% 10p. rank) - average voted - number of total votes

1. Hong Kong (1) 9.37 1049 votes
2. New York (2) 8.91 2243 votes
3. Chicago (3) 8.84 2057 votes
4. Tokyo (7) 8.49 1269 votes
5. Kuala Lumpur (8) 8.48 1501 votes
6. Sydney (4) 8.44 2194 votes
7. Shanghai (5) 8.40 1534 votes
8. Singapore (10) 8.38 1322 votes
9. Toronto (6) 8.30 1795 votes
10. Melbourne (9) 8.16 1762 votes
11. San Francisco (13) 8.13 666 votes
12. Seattle (12) 8.11 891 votes
13. Dubai (11) 7.85 1274 votes
14. Rio de Janeiro (14) 7.68 369 votes

yea maybe, just give to the city 5 years, and the top will change.

Not in this economy my friend. its is going to be a bit longer than that, assuming Dubai's economy ever goes back to being what it was, which i sincerely doubt considering it was founded on little more than sand and sun.

Not in this economy my friend. its is going to be a bit longer than that, assuming Dubai's economy ever goes back to being what it was, which i sincerely doubt considering it was founded on little more than sand and sun.

Dubai's future is quite rosy regardless of what happens to the global economy. It's become the hub of an entire region. People from across the Middle East and into the Indian sub-continent who used to look to London, now look to Dubai. It's fortunes have never been dependent on oil, but on trade and commerce.

Dubai in many ways is the capital of a region and will continue to boom whether people in the west accept this upstart or not.

evryone has opinions but this thread is pretty much true,
hk nyc an chigago then good to see sydney
but i think the gc should be higher,

That photo of Melbourne looks like Mordor, with Sauron, the dragon thing flying around, etc....

I agree with your list for the most part. Best compilation I've seen around...

-- Czeslaw Milosz, 'Shadow Journal'


Here is a most recent list of TOP 25 world skylines according to the members of Skyscrapercity. The rankings are based on average percentage of 10 pt votes received and NOT the total average/median scores. For statistics' sake only those cities that received 100 or more of #10 votes were included in the counting. Enjoy!


World's TOP 25 Skylines

#1. Hong Kong, China 70.81(% of total votes ) 730 (total #10 votes received)

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#2. New York • Manhattan, USA 62.72 1398

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/1142460559_9a884a2f4b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wmliu/1142460559/)
by wmliu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wmliu/)

#3. Chicago, USA 52.88 1082

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/15/21107115_d048cdc8e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crouch/21107115/)
by The New No. 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/crouch/)

#4. Sydney, Australia 43.24 944

http://s44.radikal.ru/i103/0902/94/40f86746f2a8.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sydney_skyline_at_dusk_-_Dec_2008.jpg)
by Diliff (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Diliff)

#5. Shanghai, China 36.43 553

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/3139033104_09a704d6c1.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raphaellochan/3139033104/)
by RJJ Chan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raphaellochan/)

#6. Toronto • City, Canada 34.48 613

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2691891431_c08e74287c.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redroom_studios/2691891431/)
by Redroom Studios (http://www.flickr.com/photos/redroom_studios/)

#7. Tokyo, Japan 34.18 433

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1362/1460119934_624a2deca7.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jorpe/1460119934/)
by el_jorpe (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jorpe/)

#8. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 32.17 480

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/282190138_815e267def.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tall_justin/282190138/)
by Tall Justin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tall_justin/)

#9. Melbourne, Australia 31.88 561

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2285598794_0020a05191.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_n_jo/2285598794/)
by Richard & Jo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard_n_jo/)

#10. Singapore CBD, Singapore 31.66 416

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2480645904_be85327f69.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marduk360/2480645904/)
by -=Wacky B=- (http://www.flickr.com/photos/marduk360/)

#11. Dubai, UAE 30.78 386

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/3142229487_95d80da820.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/3142229487_95d80da820_b.jpg)
by H. Evan Miller (http://www.flickr.com/photos/evanhowe/)

#12. Seattle, USA 30.44 270

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/358622155_79a387bfe5.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfischer/358622155/)
by ray fischer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfischer/)

#13. San Francisco, USA 30.12 200

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/34/96658254_8a51b94100.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whipartist/96658254/)
by whipartist (http://www.flickr.com/photos/whipartist/)

#14. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 29.54 109

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2409/2179381840_851735d24f.jpg?v=0 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2409/2179381840_94a990a096_o.jpg)
by Ana Taves (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aninhataves/)

#15. Jakarta, Indonesia 29.49 499

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1193/1283388635_c449a13d8a.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exposure/1283388635/)
by chef d'oeuvre (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exposure/)

#16. Guangzhou, China 28.83 190

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/63443361_9ac9eb9b48.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/naylomo/63443361/)
by naylomo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/naylomo/)

#17. Vancouver, Canada 28.22 243

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1226/1471174376_0646b0bd33.jpg?v=0 (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1226/1471174376_0646b0bd33_b.jpg)
by idatewe (http://www.flickr.com/photos/idatewe/)

#18. Bangkok, Thailand 28.03 534

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/3198964119_14bfd4167f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21630979@N02/3198964119/)
by macccc (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21630979@N02/)

#19. Metro Manila, Philippines 27.5 344

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0901/9d/b66af0d3c79b.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/3076290166_2f96a8ff38_b.jpg)
by » maraculio « FCPP Photoshoot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maraculio/)

#20. São Paulo, Brazil 27.36 139

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2384331106_cc3041389d.jpg
by conras (http://www.flickr.com/photos/conras/)

#21. Frankfurt am Main, Germany 26.66 245

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/314724529_62137f1f10.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/twentyeight/314724529/)
by twentyeight (http://www.flickr.com/photos/twentyeight/)

#22. Minneapolis, USA 26.47 203

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/323080694_0e6435482e.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/323080694_0e6435482e_b.jpg)
by 3rd foundation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/3rdfoundation/)

#23. Shenzhen, China 26.02 205

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/26748649_828f98a6dd.jpg
by bocaj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bocaj/)

#24. Los Angeles, USA 25.07 251

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2534993409_ce85796503.jpg?v=0 (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2534993409_44ef021f82_o.jpg)
by waynewhuang (http://www.flickr.com/photos/waynewhuang/)

#25. London • City, UK 24.47 198

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3204920780_ce118307f4.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matbest/3204920780/in/pool-londonskyline)
by mathewbest (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matbest/)



The Runners-Up

#26. Brisbane, Australia 24.37 183
#27. Paris • La Défense, France 24.22 257
#28. Seoul, South Korea 23.9 158
#29. Warsaw, Poland 23.13 272
#30. Rotterdam, Netherlands 22.3 192
#31. Buenos Aires, Argentina 21.69 123
#32. Gold Coast, Australia 21.65 147
#33. Mexico City, Mexico 21.5 146
#34. Montréal, Canada 21.49 124
#35. Calgary, Canada 21.1 134
#36. Miami, USA 19.37 141
#37. Houston, USA 18.93 124
#38. Perth, Australia 18.03 141
#39. Atlanta, USA 14.88 108

Even though the following skylines were eliminated in the process of counting due to the insufficient number of votes, they would still rank fairly high on the TOP25 list:

Panama City, Panama 35.06 27
Tel Aviv • Ramat Gan, Israel 27.41 54
Santiago, Chile 26.65 85
New York • Brooklyn, USA 24.14 58

TOP Historical Skylines

- Skylines needed to have at least 10 #10 votes to qualify.
- To qualify a historical cityscape must show evidence of a well preserved city centre; recent/modern high-rises visible in any direction and/or significantly affecting the cityscape are crucial, the fewer of these the better.

#1. Saint Petersburg - Russia 55, 37.67%, 146

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/2436424337_87e4f72111.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/senecarus/2436424337/in/set-72157603276358577/)
by Senecarus (http://www.flickr.com/photos/senecarus/)

#2. Dresden - Germany 16, 34.04%, 47

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/3078673566_9f33d45b85.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dig-i-pic/3078673566/)
by dig-i-pic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dig-i-pic/)

#3. San Gimignano - Italy 56 32% 175

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2143/2087367395_7a6c7f98da.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ltangelini/2087367395/)
by lo.tangelini (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ltangelini/)

#4. Shibam - Yemen 51 29.48% 173

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/2379146185_43bfcca2dd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22918294@N04/2379146185/)
by richard.mcmanus. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22918294@N04/)

#5. Paris - France 153 28.71% 533

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/145/360594295_677370244b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edbob/360594295/)
by EdBob (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edbob/)

#6. Jerusalem - Israel 37 28.03% 132

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2650171222_05d2f055ec.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sduffy/2650171222/)
by sduffy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sduffy/)

#7. Heidelberg - Germany 23 26.44% 87

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/438941240_6b8e0c0767.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kramboner/438941240/)
by kramboner (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kramboner/)

#8. Prague - Czech Republic 48 26.23% 183

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/319644829_b8e081dc35.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vincent_vega/319644829/)
by Vincént (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vincent_vega/)

#9. Rothenburg ob der Tauber - Germany 21 23.6% 89

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/3084909515_647fc125fd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/batiks/3084909515/)
by Batikart (http://www.flickr.com/photos/batiks/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/357165091_06a53e8cab.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klaus_dolle/357165091/)
by Klaus_Dolle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/klaus_dolle/)

#10. Wroclaw - Poland 41 21.69% 189

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/92/220400068_db93501bfd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smyka/220400068/)
by Rafal S. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smyka/)

Runners-up

11. Brugge - Belgium 51 20.99% 243
12. Sana'a - Yemen 23 20.54% 112
13. Krakow - Poland 43 19.82% 217
14. Oxford - UK 22 19.82% 111
15. Munich - Germany 37 19.68% 188
16. Lviv - Ukraine 11 18.33% 60
17. Athens - Greece 32 18.18% 176
18. Stockholm - Sweden 44 17.6% 250
19. Oslo - Norway 25 15.72% 159
20. Rome - Italy 23 14.94% 154
21. Antwerpen - Belgium 16 14.41% 111
22. Leuven - Belgium 12 14.12% 85
23. Zürich - Switzerland 11 13.75% 80
24. Gent - Belgium 15 12.4% 121
25. Liège - Belgium 10 6.67% 150

Rome 23rd in historical skyline? Wow.

For god's sake, do not quote the entire freaking post with all the images over on this page!

This poll means nothing because statistics are flawed. Moderators have changed the results.

In the old times, when city vs city was strong, it was a national sport on SSC to vote "3 or less" to other cities skylines (something I've always found stupid and I'm glad it's less the case today). When the moderating team has chosen to clean up the mess, they've "cleaned" some polls, but not others. I don't know how exactly it was done. Maybe non registered members could vote before and not later or something this way, but anyway, what is sure is that results have changed.

Let's take few examples about how obvious this is. The British moderator Wjfox decided to remove all the "3 or less" votes to London City poll. As a result, we have:
- 198 votes for "10"
- 13 votes for "3 or less".

However, Paris skyline poll has never been cleaned. As a result, we have:
- 262 votes for "10"
- 148 votes for "3 or less".

That what we call a big difference, isn't it ?

In the same way, the Paris la Défense thread records 212,488 views for only 566 posts. That makes 375 views per post. That is 3 times more than the average which is between 100 and 130 views per post.

I remember that when Wjfox changed the poll results for the London City skyline, the number of views has drastically reduced. I don't know how it used to work but there's something which has been changed for most threads and which never changed for La Défense.

Nowadays, the London City skyline has 46,327 views for 451 posts, which is clearly more in line with the average.

All this to say that it's hard to conclude anything out of the results of polls as long as they've been manipulated in a way or another.

When the moderating team has chosen to clean up the mess, they've "cleaned" some polls, but not others.

Have they cleaned some of the #10 votes as well? I'm only counting 10 pt votes.

3 or less votes mean balls because they are not counted in the statistics and ranking anyway. Anyway as an admin I don't think it's fair (that is if that did happen of course) for any mod to rig poll results in favour of his city over another, I wouldn't accept it from a French moderator and I don't want other mods to do so too.

Very surprised Sydney got more votes than Toronto, also how Vancouver is in the top 25 and not Montréal. Montréal is MUCH more historic than Minneapolis, or Melbourne is by a long shot. It was the economic capital of Canada from confederation until the 1960's, also had the highest population.

And what about lisbon in the historical skylines? --'
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Very surprised Sydney got more votes than Toronto, also how Vancouver is in the top 25 and not Montréal. Montréal is MUCH more historic than Minneapolis, or Melbourne is by a long shot. It was the economic capital of Canada from confederation until the 1960's, also had the highest population.

I guess it is not very well regarded in terms of its skyline(Minneapolis and Vancouver are). We're voting skylines here, remember?

And what about lisbon in the historical skylines? --'


What about it?

I think it deserved to be one of the top Historical skylines --'

Beirut, Lebanon should have been in the hisotrical skylines..the buldings look new because they have been renovated because of the war..
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Very surprised Sydney got more votes than Toronto, also how Vancouver is in the top 25 and not Montréal. Montréal is MUCH more historic than Minneapolis, or Melbourne is by a long shot. It was the economic capital of Canada from confederation until the 1960's, also had the highest population.

..and Montreal has been in decline since the 1970's as well. It's been stagnant for years.

Sure it may have more history than Melbourne, as you say, but Melbourne's skyline is far more impressive, as is Sydney's. Both cities deserve a top 10 spot.

Mighty Melbourne
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Yeah, I'd have to agree that Melbourne has a nicer skyline that Montreal, though I wouldn't say that Melbourne's skyline is "far" more impressive.

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Montreal's true beauty is found by walking along its streets and discovering the gorgeous mix of the very old and the very modern. Like this:

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Yeah, I'd have to agree that Melbourne has a nicer skyline that Montreal, though I wouldn't say that Melbourne's skyline is "far" more impressive.

Montreal's true beauty is found by walking along its streets and discovering the gorgeous mix of the very old and the very modern. Like this:



'Far' more is perhaps a bit harsh but Melbourne and Sydney are certainly on the same/next level as cities like Toronto etc. after the big 3.

One thing that Melbourne and Montreal have in common is the contrasts in old and new.

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I think Venice should probably be in the top historical skylines. I mean it was the Manhattan of the 15th century!

I would have liked to see the Gold Coast up there. It must have been dragged down by the earlier votes before Q1 and the other iconic towers were built. But now that they are, the skyline is very impressive.

Very surprised Sydney got more votes than Toronto, also how Vancouver is in the top 25 and not Montréal.

What makes you that surprised? Sydney, as you have probably seen in that very popular recent banner, is naturally beautiful; spanning inwards instead of along the waterfront, the shape/sillhouete of the skyline is long and iconic and with the Opera House and the entire harbour complementing it, I personally would place Sydney *at least* on the same level with Toronto. And I personally prefer Vancouver over Montreal too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EoqAJui9iU&feature=related (Very old video, dates back to 2003 by the looks)

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Mighty Melbourne


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Or Massive Melbourne (lol).

Very surprised Sydney got more votes than Toronto, also how Vancouver is in the top 25 and not Montréal.

Sydney's skyline may be quite a bit smaller than Toronto's, but it's more balanced. The CN Tower has a dwarfing effect on the rest of Toronto's skyline, and the grouping of towers isn't as pleasing from a distance. As Toronto starts to build out along the lakefront, and major towers like AURA, Shangri-La, and 1 Bloor East are built beyond the tightly packed CBD, Toronto's visual balance will improve dramatically.

The 2012 Toronto renders that have been circulating clearly depict the monster skyline that is forming. Toronto just needs to fill in the lakefront, as it is now doing, and develop Yorkville more, which is also happening. The black towers in the second render are buildings approved or under construction. Half of them are nearing completion, and almost all of the rest are going ahead. There are actually a lot of towers missing from that depiction.

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Things like the Sydney Opera House, bridge, and harbour bolster the visual appeal of Sydney a great deal. These attributes aren't really skyline qualities, but many people take them into account any way. Likewise, the fame brought to Sydney from hosting the Olympics seems to have had a lasting effect on people's perceptions.

If you look at the number of buildings over 100 metres in each city, it's not even close. Toronto would win handily. On a quantitative basis, Sydney shouldn't rank higher, but this isn't a quantitative measure, is it? Sydney's a fabulous looking city, but Toronto's got scale on its side. The balance to Toronto's skyline is just around the corner. Toronto did score 6th, so it's not as if people haven't noticed.

Likewise, Vancouver's skyline looks fabulously balanced and visually stunning. The setting and mountains skew the rank higher. If you put Vancouver in the middle of the prairie, many people would rank it lower even though they shouldn't.

Nice to see Rio and São Paulo in the top 25.

Nice to see Rio and São Paulo in the top 25.

Just them from Latin America. :cheers:

Yes, as a whole, Toronto's skyline is larger than Sydney's, but you can't say that Sydney's lacking in scale. Also, while the skyline of Toronto is sprawled with it's epicentre, ie, the tallest and most notable section of the skyline, at and around the First Canadian Place and the Scotia Plaza, it is arguable that the entire skyline of Sydney is, in fact, it's epicentre. For what it appears to be when it's depicted in traditional view over the harbour, Sydney's skyline is quite lengthy, spanning almost 3 kilometres inwards. You really have be there to appreciate its length.

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The setting of the city has an important impact on the skyline too and it should, by all means, be considered. This is reflected on the fact that people also consider the harbour, Opera House or the Rogers Centre; after all, the setting is where the skyline is situated and people don't just look at just that set of buildings in the skyline and pretend that everything around it's a giant patch of pitch black, well, nothing.

One must also take into account that a skyline is ultimately just a visual landscape. So it is common sense that a good skyline does not neccesarily have to be large. It will have to be attractive in appearance. In general and for the time being, Toronto's skyline has the edge in scale but in terms of balance and the appearance in general, I would give it to Sydney (not saying that Toronto isn't generally attractive). Perhaps this is why Sydney is coming 4th at 43%, placing it comfortably ahead of the competition of 30%s and 20%s starting directly beneath it, including Toronto.

It should also be noted that every city is constantly changing. In Sydney's case, the global financial crisis has slowed its growth on a huge scale, putting on hold projects such as Chatswood's 3 new to-be-tallest towers and Parramatta's Civic Place. However, a number of towers are approved or already under construction to fill gaps and spaces and to improve and enhance the already enviable appearance of the skyline, such as Space, Westfield Tower and the John Boyd Tower.

Forgive me for being unable to find a more recent image but as of 2007, the red buildings are under construction, while the grey and white buildings are approved:

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Now, as you can probably see, the current skyline is already very dense and packed. That's why sites are being developed around the current CBD which will join with the CBD in the future to create an even larger skyline. Examples include Fraser's Broadway at the southern end of the skyline which will consist of 10 new scrapers and the new world-class waterfront precinct of Barangaroo consisting of 11 new scrapers, depicted below:

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IIRC, these two projects are scheduled to begin next year.

With these projects, Sydney will not only have that admirable look; given the time, scale will be on its side too. This shot portrays what the skyline might look like in the future (forgive me again for not being able to find a better image):

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On a qualitative basis, Sydney shouldn't rank higher, but this isn't a qualitative measure, is it?
Ouch, not so sure here. I personally prefer a smaller cluster of high quality buildings like Seattle over a sea of grey like Baghdad. I'm sure a lot of people will think likewise. Considering Toronto and Sydney and in terms of the context we're dealing with, quality depends on the way you judge and interpret it. I personally think that Syndey has a more modern looking and generally better set of buildings but you can disagree with me if you want to because what I and you can only say about this are mere opinions, not facts.

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Likewise, the fame brought to Sydney from hosting the Olympics seems to have had a lasting effect on people's perceptions.
Yes, Sydney has shown the world with a very memorable 2000 Olympics. But hey, do I see an olympic stadium on that skyline. No. So what's the olympics gotta do with the skyline?

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And unlike some cities, Sydney really shines at a distance!
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With all that said, this is not a city vs city thread so I won't be one sided here. I do agree with many other people that Toronto has an impressive skyline. That's why I put both Sydney and Toronto both at number 3 on my top 10 skyline list if you didn't notice. After all, no matter what the percentage of 10 votes is, Toronto is still at number 6. And as for the future, well, we both have promising projects. But who knows what the future will turn out to be? Perhaps aliens will settle on Earth tommorrow and create a city for all of us to envy. Lol. I hope not.

^^ Thanks Isaidso and Nameless for the well thought-out, measured and calm responses. It is through this manner that productive conversations are possible. Both Canada and Australia both have cities that their respective populations should be incredibly proud of and, as part of countries with relatively very small populations, we show what can be done with strength, determination and ingenuity - we are both countries that punch above our weight in many ways, and our cities show this. :)

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Manila at #19? Not bad. :p

Hey Nameless, thanks for the pics and your point of view.

After reading your argument, and re-reading mine, I've come to another conclusion. It seems that Toronto is moving from a position of scale to one of scale coupled with balance and glamour. Sydney seems to be coming from a position of balance and glamour while adding scale.

One correction I should make is that I wrote "On a qualitative basis, Sydney shouldn't rank higher, but this isn't a qualitative measure, is it?" That should have read quantitative, not qualitative. I've since corrected it. I tend to agree with you regarding the qualitative measure, but any gap that exists is rapidly closing. Consider the following.

Your comments regarding quality are valid up to a point. Even some Torontonians point to the dowdiness of too many towers in the central city. There are lots of first rate buildings, but the existence of a lot of others that miss the mark has blemished the overall appearance in some people's eyes. Some of the waterfront condo towers built in the 80s and apartment blocks like St. Jamestown come to mind. They are just not very sophisticated or beautiful.

From talking to Australians on SSC, it came to my attention that Melbourne used to suffer from a similar image problem, but went through a dramatic transformation over the last 20 years. The same thing started happening here about 6-7 years ago. The minimum standard that people tolerate has jumped noticeably as Toronto booms and continues to grow wealthier. An astonishing number of beautiful modern towers are being built and they are beginning to over shadow some of the less appealing developments. The proliferation has even led to what people call 'Toronto Style' that is being acknowledged in the design community. Toronto has evolved from taking architectural cues from elsewhere to the maturing of a locally nurtured design aesthetic. 'Toronto Style' has received accolades and a fair bit of recognition.

It may surprise you to learn that despite Toronto's position in the world today, Toronto's ascent has been very recent and rapid. There has always been wealth, power, and sophistication in the city, but it's only now that the city is coming of age. That is being reflected in the cultural and architectural renaissance that Toronto is now experiencing. The shift has been so quick and dramatic, that even Torontonians often find themselves stopping to catch themselves and re-assess their own perceptions of their city.

Regarding the 'Olympic effect'. There have been quite a few studies about the positive effects that the Olympics has had on global perceptions of Sydney. It has nothing to do with stadiums or infrastructure, but an immeasurable factor (lets call it goodwill) that leads people to be less objective. Positive and endearing feelings towards a place, coupled with fame, have scientifically measurable effects on people's perceptions. It's why we see so many 10's given to Paris and London in a skyline ranking. We're really giving them a 10 because of what a dynamite city each of them are rather than objectively making observations about their towers, spires, etc.

I've read a few studies that point to the powerful Sydney Olympic after glow, that unlike many other Olympic hosts before, shows little sign of letting up. It's not my intention to argue that Sydney is undeserving of its rank, but do agree that Sydney benefits from this phenomenon to a significant degree. I do tend to block out things like harbours, mountains, goodwill, etc. as much as possible when ranking a skyline. I don't consider it objective to include it, but that's my own stubborn fixation on strictly scientific criteria.

Having considered all this, it's only natural that Torontonians and Sydneysiders will look at the other and compare. Torontonians will invariably notice the lack of height and scale in Sydney. Sydneysiders will invariably notice a lack of visual balance and some bad architectural choices in Toronto. Both are valid observations, but it's just as important to dwell on the positives of each and acknowledge the steps each city is taking in their evolution and development.

Btw, those Sydney models are awesome!

Well said, Isaidso. It's good to know that you enjoyed those pics and models. You can find many more on the Ozscrapers section in the Continental Forums. But are there any links or sources that you can give me regarding people's perceptions on Sydney after the Olymics? Although I still disagree with your statement that the Olympics had a large impact on how people observe Sydney's *physical* appearance with their eyes, I'm hugely interested on the mental impact of that event to outsiders. Regarding Paris and London, well, the last olympics that both of these cities hosted was over half a century ago. London 1948, Paris 1924. Besides, the olympics wasn't such an important event back then. To me, people give Paris a 10 vote for being obviously beautiful and London for the sheer amount of buildings around. And London's at 25, so you can't say it's completely biased. In turn, Atlanta hosted the 96 games and Athens with 04, but I don't see them getting rediculously high votes. In fact, 33.52% of people voted <3.5 for Athens. The creator of the poll even wrote "the Olympic city of 2004" in the polling box so no one will forget that Athens hosted the 2004 games when they vote. Also, notice that Athens has a wall of beautiful mountains as the background. Yet, it still ranks lower than many cities which aren't gifted with an attractive setting.

Also, Here's an experiment. Cover up the Opera House and harbour:

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Still impressive? It's fine to disagree with me but imo, yes. Do this to as many Sydney photos as you like. It's also good to note that there are shots of Sydney without the harbour and Opera house in view that many people find very impressive too. The banner of Sydney's skyline was a plausible example but don't take that as only one exception. There are many others too.

Although Sydney's skyline is smaller than Toronto's, I wouldn't state that it's lacking in scale. Refer to the first paragraph of my previous post. Oh, and it's not only Torontonians that notice that lack of height in Sydney, we do too. Our government enforced a foolish 235m height limit, blaming height for casting shadows over the city. Thankfully, we also do have quite a few 235m+ buildings built before that height limit was created. But perhaps it is Sydney's hilly terrain which contributes the most to Sydney's apparent lack of height as it sometimes imposes a shortening effect on buildings and hides a substancial number of our surburban skylines.

To play the Devil's Advocate, Sydney has its share of dreary 70's office towers as well. Neither Canada or Australia had as wealthy cities as, say, the USA and it showed in the architecture of the time. No offence to either city but it is true.

Neither Canada or Australia had as wealthy cities as, say, the USA and it showed in the architecture of the time.

You ought to be careful when making making generalizations such as these, they can be a tad bit stereotypical. Toronto was not as wealthy compared to what? Dallas, Atlanta, L.A?.. While you can make a fair argument about the size of their economies, cultural heritage, and regulatory policies on urban planning, I'm not entirely convinced that economic stagnation necessarily has to result in bad architecture or that either the two mentioned Australian or Canadian cities were that far behind to justify said differences in their aesthetic appearances. After all, many US cities got their share of ugly Miesian architecture too!

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IBM Plaza, Chicago, Illinois

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TD Centre towers in Toronto.

Okay let's not do the finger-pointing game...we all have boxy skyscrapers. Some more than others; and in your effort to point out his flaw of generalizing, you did yourself when insinuating that Atlanta or Dallas aren't wealthy city's.

and in your effort to point out his flaw of generalizing, you did yourself when insinuating that Atlanta or Dallas aren't wealthy city's.

erm.. No I didn't.

Major Deegan, I simply meant that Canada and Australia were not as wealthy nations as the USA in the 60's and the 70's. This is not careless stereotyping, this is a fact. I don't think it is too much of a stretch of the imagination to assume that the amount of money spent on head offices of our corporations and banks may have been less than that spent on the head offices of multinational corporations and banks in say, Chicago or New York. I was not drawing any further conclusions than that.
However, if you are saying the TD Centre in Toronto by Mies van der Rohe is "ugly Miesian architecture", then I respectfully disagree. Isaidso has already pointed out that the concept of beauty is relative. However, I also do not subscribe to the school of thought that International Style "boxes" are inherently "ugly".

No offense to anyone, but I honestly don't see Sydney at #4. Not saying that it doesn't have an excellent skyline, and it is one of the world's best, but the fact that none of it's skyscrapers are actually memorable or major really doesn't help it. If it wasn't for the harbor and the opera house, I wouldn't actually figure that the skyline was Sydney at first glance.

^^

I'm gonna agree with you there Xusien. I think Melbourne wins the current top spot for Australia's best 'highrise skyline', but Sydney wins purely on aesthitics! :okay:

On another note: Glad to see Metro Manila (my home country) make it on the list. Alot of projects and taller scrapers are planned including one of the world's tallest observation towers!!:pepper:

I am interested to know if the ranking will change IF we include the votings
for 9, 9.5 and 10 scores as we think 9 is outstanding enuff..

Vancouver should have placed a little higher IMO.


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Vancouver is a very nice city. It should have placed higher since it really does have a gorgeous skyline. Maybe you could find a nice panorama of the downtown area that's a little bit more realistic looking to prove your point. :P

^^ It is definately and amazing skyline!

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My gripe with Vancouver is that I think it needs some taller skyscrapers, and (like Sydney), no memorable skyscrapers of note. It seems as though the vast majority of it's high rises are glass condos. It looks nice with the mountainous background, but it seems to be missing something to me.

I'm going to probably sound a little odd here to some, but IMO I like Seattle's skyline better, although it can't match Vancouver when it comes to urbanity. Seattle has more distinctive skyscrapers, and that Space Needle, as well as the mountainous background just seems more distinctive.

Vancouver is a very nice city. It should have placed higher since it really does have a gorgeous skyline. Maybe you could find a nice panorama of the downtown area that's a little bit more realistic looking to prove your point. :P


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although it can't match Vancouver when it comes to urbanity. .

Don't underestimate Seattle... it is a very cool city! :)

I have always loved Vancouver's skyline. It just surprises me so much. One of the best in the world imo.

Brisbane will soon be in the top 25 chart, as its skyline is changing and will have enormously changed in 4-5 years.
Here is Brisbane Today
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In 2007
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^^Amazing shots! Yeah, Queensland's booming and within a couple of years, I'd say that we'd probably find Brisbane and the Gold Coast both at top 25. Perth will also do a lot better too.

are those Azaleas?!??! My god, it makes our puny little ones pale by comparison!!! :eek2:

this poll doesnt base on the skylines potential but on the votes of the voters ofcourse...

but it seems there was a complict about the result how could
JAKARTA win than MANILA AND SEOUL are they funny?

Jakarta is still a poor city with slums..

yuck

jakarta doesnt deserve it even sydney doesnt deserve also

hongkong,tokyo,newyork,singapore,manila,seoul all deserve on this poll especially at better rank!!!!!!

this poll doesnt base on the skylines potential but on the votes of the voters ofcourse...

but it seems there was a complict about the result how could
JAKARTA win than MANILA AND SEOUL are they funny?

Jakarta is still a poor city with slums..

yuck

jakarta doesnt deserve it even sydney doesnt deserve also

hongkong,tokyo,newyork,singapore,manila,seoul all deserve on this poll especially at better rank!!!!!!

Umm, 1 question. Isn't Hong Kong and New York already at no. 1 and 2?

The posting of this ranking system (The World's Best Skylines (http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html)) has sparked heated debates in the past. It would be interesting to see if that trend continues here.

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A slightly sarcastic in this context photo manipulation from a Western Union ad showing a mutual reflection of Toronto's and Sydney's skylines.

via adsoftheworld.com

http://adsoftheworld.com/files/images/WUsydney.jpg (http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/western_union_money_transfer_sydneytoronto?size=_original)

More?

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^^hmm. Very interesting photos. The Sydney shot's rather outdated but i'm sure that it'll be likewise for Toronto.

Caracas :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4jYWuAGMqks/SZrkgu8LKYI/AAAAAAAAAGA/jL3c9HOumqk/s320/CARACAS+DE+NOCHE.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8837/caracas7bl1sy0.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8171/caracasnz4.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4300/vistaoeste7gk.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/713/80795530hv8.jpg

Those mirror image skyline pics are swell in creativity terms, but you're going to end up with some discrepancies, intentional or not.
For instance, in the Toronto/Sydney picture the two TV towers look approximately the same height, whereas Toronto's is almost twice as tall as Sydney's in real life. Toronto's Skydome appears shorter than Sydney's opera house in that pic, yet Skydome's roof height is 310 ft. to the 221 ft. of Sydney's opera house.
Also, and this is not the product of any manipulation on the part of the person who assembled these contrast images, but Toronto's bank towers look about the same size as Sydney's tallest buildings in that photo, whereas they are considerably taller. That's because T.O.'s cluster of major financial towers is 1 km inland, making the individual buildings appear smaller than they are when viewed from the water. Toronto skyline shots from the waterfront perspective are misleading because most of the scrapers, barring a few of the new condos, are nowhere near the waterfront.
So, that juxtaposition picture, lovely as it is, is inaccurate in that the skylines are disproportionately scaled. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd point it out.

^^
Very good observations, glad you have noticed. I believe having structures from different cities match in height is intentionally crafted for the purpose of balancing out the visual composition of the pieces, for the uneven heights of various buildings in upper or lower parts of the image would affect the clarity of reading. That said, sometimes some level of the actual appearance needs to be sacrificed for the sake of effectiveness and in order to address set goals of a marketing campaign.

this poll doesnt base on the skylines potential but on the votes of the voters ofcourse...

but it seems there was a complict about the result how could
JAKARTA win than MANILA AND SEOUL are they funny?

Jakarta is still a poor city with slums..

yuck

jakarta doesnt deserve it even sydney doesnt deserve also

hongkong,tokyo,newyork,singapore,manila,seoul all deserve on this poll especially at better rank!!!!!!i've seen a lot of your post and you are definitely a Filipino nationalist. For the Jakarta part of your comment, as far as I remember, Manlia too has huge slums, so does other cities on that list. You shouldn't get work up on a list that people voted, its opinion based.

Those mirror image skyline pics are swell in creativity terms, but you're going to end up with some discrepancies, intentional or not.
For instance, in the Toronto/Sydney picture the two TV towers look approximately the same height, whereas Toronto's is almost twice as tall as Sydney's in real life. Toronto's Skydome appears shorter than Sydney's opera house in that pic, yet Skydome's roof height is 310 ft. to the 221 ft. of Sydney's opera house.
Also, and this is not the product of any manipulation on the part of the person who assembled these contrast images, but Toronto's bank towers look about the same size as Sydney's tallest buildings in that photo, whereas they are considerably taller. That's because T.O.'s cluster of major financial towers is 1 km inland, making the individual buildings appear smaller than they are when viewed from the water. Toronto skyline shots from the waterfront perspective are misleading because most of the scrapers, barring a few of the new condos, are nowhere near the waterfront.
So, that juxtaposition picture, lovely as it is, is inaccurate in that the skylines are disproportionately scaled. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd point it out.

Yeah, the whole thing is manipulated to make the cities look similar. Sydney tower was lengthened in the photo to create the same dwarfing effect of the CN Tower to the rest of Toronto. CN Tower stands at 553m while Sydney Tower's at 305m.

Grey towers, that was well said and I respect your facts and opinions. However, I would just like to point out a few things for Sydney to balance this.

Firstly, I'd like to point out that that comparison photo is outdated. For example, Sydney in there is missing 3 towers above 200m that are in today's Sydney skyline as well as a number of other buildings. But I'm sure Toronto will be missing some too.

Now, what you said about Toronto's major cluster is 1km inlands is true. However, the eastern edge of the northern end of Sydney's skyline from the traditional harbour perspective depicted in that shot is also around 1km inland. For instance, take Governer Phillip Tower. Of the two buildings which appear to be the tallest in Sydney from that comparison photo, Governer Phillip tower is the one on the right. In that photo, it's 1.15kms from the edge of the Botanical Gardens (the park separating the skyline from the harbour in that perspective).

About heights, it's true that the three tallest buildings in Toronto are taller than the tallest buildings in Sydney. However, as we go down starting with Toronto's 4th tallest building, Sydney begins to balance out. Here's the heights for the buildings above 200m for both Sydney and Toronto.

Toronto:
1. First Canadian Place - 298m
2.Scotia Plaza - 275m
3.TD Canada Trust Tower - 261m
4.Commerce Court West - 239m
5.Toronto Dominion Tower - 223m
6.Bay Adelaide Centre (under construction, topped out) - 218m
7.Bay Wellington Tower - 207m

Sydney:
1. Chifley Tower - 244m
2. Citigroup Centre - 243m
3. Deutche Bank Place - 239m
4. World Tower -230m
5. MLC Centre - 228m (244m including antenna)
6. Governer Phillip Tower -227m (254m including antenna)
7. Ernst & Young Centre - 222m
8. Aurora Place - 218m

While it might be true that Toronto's skyline from the waterfront is misleading, the same can also be said for Sydney's skyline from that harbour perspective depicted in that comparison photo. Since Sydney's skyline spans inwards instead of along the waterfront, the skyline is actually shot at an around 45 degree angle, causing the southern end of the skyline to look much smaller than what it actually is. In reality, Sydney's skyline spans for around 3 kms inland and the southern end is arguably as large as the northern end. The actual skyline is much longer than what it looks in photos.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3448275010_c51c2c315a_o.jpg

It's a bad photo shot in a plane at a distance, I know, but see that the southern end's actually much larger than what it appears to be in that comparison photo? I'd also like to point out that while Toronto's skyline is larger, much of it is spread out and is not as notable as the epicentre, ie, the tallest and most defining section of the skyline which in Toronto's case is that cluster of taller buildings around the First Canadian Place and the Scotia Plaza, a small section of the skyline. On the other hand, almost the entire skyline of Sydney is the epicentre. This perhaps is reflected in the fact that Sydney has 8 buildings over 200m while Toronto has 7.

Don't think that I'm saying Toronto's skyline isn't impressive. I just wanted to point out that both cities have their own pros and cons in their skylines.

^This perhaps is reflected in the fact that Sydney has 8 buildings over 200m while Toronto has 7.

At risk of bringing up the dreaded spire debate ;-) ... I think the 200m "yardstick" (pun intended) is a little misleading given the plethora of spires/poles that adorn Sydney buildings.
If you look at the SSP diagram below, I think you'll see that Toronto's tallest are much more substantial than Sydney's... generally the roof heights are much taller.

For example, Commerce Court at only 239m certainly appears taller than Sydney's 6 tallest. Similarly, Sydney's so-called 5th tallest MLC Centre (roof 228m) looks taller
than the other 4 "taller" buildings in that city.

As for the actual 200 metre club, Toronto will have 6 additions to that list.

Don't know how the credit crunch has affected 200m+ projects in Sydney, however in Toronto we have 5 under construction ranging from Trump @ 282/257m to 4 Seasons 195/205m.
... plus Aura at 252m is starting this summer (sales and financing A-ok). So we're very lucky compared to many cities. Not sure how accurate this is but the diagram shows only one 200m+ proposal
for Sydney and like some of its sisters, it relies on an appendage to cross the 200m threshold.

The big question mark is 1 Bloor East at 290.5m (the site was cleared then silence) which promises to be very impactful if/when built... 2nd tallest in the city but miles away from the tall banking district.

There are a few other under construction projects that are only 10/15 m below the 200m threshold that are bulking up downtown as well.

So when the dust settles, the scorecard will see Toronto with at least 12 over 200 metres... and as you can see in the diagram, none of those will cross the line into the 200m club via the somewhat artificial use
of non-structural appendages.

From SSP:

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/torsydssp.jpg

As for camera angles, like Toronto, I think it is fair to say that the waterfront shots of Sydney, though very attractive/famous, do diminish the apparent
size of the city compared to those high angles that show a mini-Manhattan.

That photo you posted, Nameless_Dude, is fantastic!

Artificial use...not sure about that. The spire's built into the building, it's a part of it. That's why spires are included in the official heights. It's personal, but I prefer buildings with spires over buildings without them. At least the spire would eliminate that boring flat roof. But let's not get into that debate again.

The financial crisis had affected Sydney's boom to some degree. It's already regrettably halted a number of approved towers and projects, including the John Boyd tower and the 200m+ Richard Johnson Square. However, there a still a number of smaller towers which are to be completed in the CBD that are approved or under construction. Although none of them are above 200m, they will fill gaps and enhance the skyline. But once the economy's fine, there's almost no doubt that the boom will continue.

The cause of the apparent lack of height with some buildings in Sydney is partly due to the elevations and depressions in the terrain. The city's basically situated on a slope which makes the taller towers in the northern end of the skyline look shorter than what they are.

Here's what I'm talking about:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2631853511_089c173f5a_o.jpg

As for 200m+ buildings, having too much of them in Sydney might actually do more harm than good. It's not just height that matters with skylines. An impressive skyline isn't one that just builds supertalls on every empty spot that they can find. Factors such as balance, position, etc could matter even more than height. After all, a skyline is a visual landscape. As for Sydney, having too many 200m+ buildings might actually spoil the balance and appearance as the skyline's already very dense and almost "built out". Having buildings too tall might also spoil the appearance of the city and overshadow the harbour and surroundings like what the CN tower has done to the Toronto's current skyline (not saying that Toronto can't change that in the future). For the future, we will have to seek to expand the CBD and build elsewhere. The two projects, Frasers Broadway which will consist of 10 new scrapers to the immediate south of the skyline and Barangaroo which will consist of 11 new scrapers including a couple of 200m+ towers to the immediate north-east of the skyline, will are both planned to start next year. They'll combine with the current CBD in the future to create an even larger skyline. Given that there's also an array of projects, scrapers and buildings which are currently proposed, approved or under construction around the CBD and in the inner city suburbs, the skyline and the appearance of Sydney in general will improve even further.

Again, I'm not trying to say that Toronto isn't impressive, I'm just trying to point out that both skylines have their respective advantages and disadvantages. If there's one thing in common, that's the fact that both of our city's most well known shots do diminish the actual sizes of their skylines.

That photo you posted, Nameless_Dude, is fantastic!

Was it? Oh, thanks, I thinking that the colour made it look a little dull. But I guess it's good anyway.

wow look at the Shenzhen picture!!! and its only 23???

I think Toronto is ranked too high as well.

Oh well, these are all just personal opinions of people here on SSC, so I don't think anyone should take it too seriously!

Christos-Greece found this wonderful photo of Toronto:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/WINTER%202008/Winter%20Part%20Two%202009/flickrcomphotos13299505atN042692484.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13299505@N04/2692484609/

The skyline of Sao Paulo is much more beautiful and impressive than that of Rio de Janeiro, not counting that of São Paulo is not well portrayed in this photo.

I think the skyline of São Paulo, so ugly
the Rio de Janeiro, is better, but not all the things

^^ I agree. I don't find either Sao Paulo or Rio to be particularly spectacular in their built forms, but Rio's geography just can't be beat. Rio is just beautiful.

^^ I agree. I don't find either Sao Paulo or Rio to be particularly spectacular in their built forms, but Rio's geography just can't be beat. Rio is just beautiful.

the city maybe is beautyfuler... but we are talking about skylines. And the financial district´s skyline at sao paulo is better... just better :lol:

^^ Each has his or her own preference, and I think Rio's skyline is much more pleasant to the eye than Sao Paulo's.

the city maybe is beautyfuler... but we are talking about skylines. And the financial district´s skyline at sao paulo is better... just better :lol:

I think Rio is better than the skyline of São Paulo
São Paulo, is a sea of buildings, low and of doubtful taste
the Rio, its downtown is more prominent

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1965/2009428472343457.jpg
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http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6264/20093618422625094.jpg
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You are torturing me with all this talk of Sao Paulo vs Rio, because I am DYING to go back to Brazil!! :D

I find it ironic that Berlin is currently ahead of London in terms of 10 pt votes. So much for the hometown loyalty, londoners! :cheers:

You are torturing me with all this talk of Sao Paulo vs Rio, because I am DYING to go back to Brazil!! :D

And I'm crazy to go!:lol:

Has been in Brazil, in which city, was?:)

I've been to Sao Paulo! I LOVED it! :D

I dont think this is only about which city has more buildings or more dense. If that was the case cities like shanghai, beijing, sao paulo, rio, mumbai etc would rank above sydney and toronto. Infact dubai with far more impressive tall buildings should really be right up there and would also be ranked well above Sydney and Toronto. So there is more to a skylike than just sheer number of buildings or even impressive tall buildings. It is also about aestethics and a thing called wow factor. Its not just about spectacular settings because vancouver and Rio would win hands down in that respect but its the juxtaposition of the buildings and X factor with sydney which makes people fall in love with it. Infact I was reading an article where they said sydney city has one of the best feng shui of all the cities.
I personally loved vancouver's natural settings and surroundings more than sydney. I also liked Toronto's streetscape and building scape more, its very pedestrian friendly and absolutely beautiful. Vancouver has the beautiful mountains and water so close to the city and easily accessable. Vancouver is one of my favourite cities in the world and I would love to live there if the weather was a little better. Vancouver is also more my kind of town because I could loose myself in beautiful stanley park, the water and the mountains and the great thing is they are so easily accessable. Yet everytime I go to near sydney harbour, I am blown away by its spectacular beauty and still get goosebumps. I am not sure what it is, its a combination of bright and sunny climate, glimmering deep blue water and the bluest sky, greenery of the harbour foreshore, the harbour bridge, opera house and the buildings which gives sydney such a dramatic look. The whole scenery is set to perfect human scale. You can frame all thse beauty in one single scene. Somehow the forefathers got the planning just right in sydney. Its is really one of the most beautifull and spectacular cities I have ever seen.
New years eve in sydney harbour is the most spectacular setting you will find anywhere. The whole thing feels surreal because the whole harbour feels like a single giant stage full of drama and the atmosphere is absolutely electrifying.

Sydney is truly spectacular

whether it is

Day
http://www.monmouth.edu/study_abroad/photogallery/AustraliaA.jpg

or

Night
http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Sydney_Harbour_Bridge_night.jpg/900px-Sydney_Harbour_Bridge_night.jpg

So I dont blame the voters for falling for sydney's beauty and charm even though it doesnt have the tallest or densest skyscrapers in the world. Afterall why wouldn't anyone fall in love with a city that looks so spectacular.

that pic from SF is very oldhttp://http://www.lighttheexpedition.com/wallpaper/san-francisco-skyline-wallpaper.jpg

Great post, Indosky! I'd just like to point out that that Sydney day picture's old. I'd say around 1992-1996 but it's definately taken at least one or two years before the new millenium.

Great post, Indosky! I'd just like to point out that that Sydney day picture's old. I'd say around 1992-1996 but it's definately taken at least one or two years before the new millenium.
Thanks for your comment mate, having been in both sydney and vancouver I have to say they are both are lovely in their own way. I can sum of the 2 cities with the feelings I get.

The feelings I get when I go to sydney harbour or the spectacular deep blue beaches are, excitement, joyful, exhiliration, anticipation, great buzz, surreal and euphoric. Its like an giant big anti depressent.

Vancouver's beautiful water, gorgeous parks, trees, greenery, mountains and sheer natural beauty evokes feelings of happiness, calmness, tranquility, harmony, peacefulness, serenenity, at ease, spirituality and contentment. Its like food for your soul.

Also what makes canada so beautiful is the niceness of its people.

its probably not MNL haha' that was an asian latins... coz of its etnicity. the original families are Malaysia and Indonesia. ^_~ just wanna let you know =D

Manila at #19? Not bad. :p




^^

Hongkong is the best modern Highrise forever.

Best bird eyes view. Many highrise buildings on the island.

Fantastic list Major Deegan, thanks for your efforts on that :applause:


Good to see some German cities in both rankings :)

Don't you all think Rome should be in the first three positions for the historical skyline?
I do.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2359740759_2743831d74_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1313/1107678347_1a28acb8d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/3315600002_90a8fb8200_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3421019702_3cdca807d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/3046090093_31a9c752c9_b.jpg

Well, there's not really a skyline in Rome on those pictures, it's quite flat.

But I really like it :)

^ Yeah while all those other historical skyline are filled with supertalls. :|

Anyway, I do agree with you. Rome (and Florence and Amsterdam too!) deserve to be in that list. But, still a decent list. Thanks for the effort Major Deegan.

Well, let's put it like this: There's a difference between a fantastic historical skyline (Dresden, Prague, Lübeck, Brugge) and "just" a great historical cityscape (major Italian cities).

where can i vote(if it is still possible).

and what do you guys thinks of this historical skyline(it's from my very own hometown Sittard). very small village(50.000 people live in it).

the left one is 80 meter high and the right one is 65 meters high.
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/1364/sttardmg1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Petrus_Stoel_van_Antiochekerk_Sittard1.jpg/261px-Petrus_Stoel_van_Antiochekerk_Sittard1.jpg http://www.rk-kerken-sittard.nl/Basiliek/basiliek9.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/555c1f.jpg

Bangkok skyline

http://69.90.174.249/photos/display_pic_with_logo/178732/178732,1233226482,3.jpg
http://69.90.174.249/photos/display_pic_with_logo/178732/178732,1233226482,3.jpg

http://www.centarahotelsresorts.com/photography/CGCW/RedSky2.jpg
http://www.centarahotelsresorts.com/photography/CGCW/RedSky2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3329118141_ff761f51f4_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/3329118141_ff761f51f4_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/78/194287625_cee5875992_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/78/194287625_cee5875992_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2495224054_905f9e1f4a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2495224054_905f9e1f4a_o.jpg

I'm amazed how London Canary Wharf wasn't voted. It would certainly fair better than London City's skyline, which is poor compared to CW's.

Where is that Bangkok picture from? The one with the restaurant...is that Lebua or Banyan Tree?

Barcelona


http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2645/2321a94e2a.jpg

Mexico City ------->>>



http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4766/panormica360df.jpg

Nice Skylines, Nice Pics:okay:

Mexico city is just...massive.

No Dallas, anyhow, yemen #1 for historical skyline.

Top European Skylines ranking now published

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Kuala Lumpur

by Fred@SG

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3497/3200959603_bb91e0db4d_o.jpg

by friend_faraway

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3101949245_b9b1707d67_b.jpg
http://www.atsaarchitects.com/atsa_web/current_project/2009/cimb/cimb_27.jpg

by © wojtek lesiak
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3725337976_f78d61698d_o.jpg

The August update for the skyline rankings has just been posted. Jump over to page one to view it. :)

Fantastic job, Major! Well done, and a real service to the group here! :applause:

The August update for the skyline rankings has just been posted. Jump over to page one to view it. :)


are all cities that gained 100+ times 10 points are included in your ranking or not?

that means only 43 cities gained 100 and more 10 points?

so :
43. Tel Aviv, Israel
16.56, 102 (new)

Hi Hebrewtext. Thanks for pointing out Tel Aviv. Added!

Gotta love seeing those smaller cities with gigantic skylines in the ranking (Melbourne, Seattle, Singapore...ect.)

Where is that Bangkok picture from? The one with the restaurant...is that Lebua or Banyan Tree?

oh!! must visit this one http://www.centarahotelsresorts.com/

Where are the historical skylines?

34. Buenos Aires, USA
22.03, 128 (-3)

Buenos Aires is in Argentina ;)

Man, as much as I love Dallas and Minneapolis skyline, how on earth did they beat Philadelphia? I think Philly's got a beautiful skyline, ok so I'm biased but still :)


yeesh I live in the most underrated city ever. :nuts:


Courtesy of Phillyskyline.com

http://phillyskyline.com/misc/wallpaper_080609_comcast.jpg

Philly's got 5 buildings 225-300 meters, 16 buildings 150 meters and up and 51 buildings over 100 meters

From Phillyskyline.com

http://phillyskyline.com/glider/glider52.jpg

^^ Looks great.

pretty interesting. Btw - Buenos Airies isn't in the US

:nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno:

BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA!

^^ Don't overreact ;)

The best historical one for me: Prague, Czech Republic!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/263331313_07ef13a4fb_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29158196@N00/263331313/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/36191471_88ba9c7241_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dividebyzero/36191471/

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/84/240960218_5e24ee2334_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13bobby/240960218/

So for the historical skylines no Vienna or Quebec City lower town? Istanbul could be on both since there really aren't any new skyscrapers on the old historic (byzantium) side, plus what about Venice or Florence I think even today they have a more historical skyline than say Rothenburg or Wroclaw or Florence on the Elbe (Dresden) and let's not forget about Edinburgh or Angkor Wat or Strasbourg or Salzburg or Munich or Cologne.....

Kuala Lumpur

by Fred@SG

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3497/3200959603_bb91e0db4d_o.jpg

by friend_faraway

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3101949245_b9b1707d67_b.jpg

wow! KL is just awesome! very neat skyline!!!!! :okay:

Some photos of Montreal skyline

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/montreal_te.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2662459708_f2e95ab23b_b.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/montreal_city_clock_te.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/grandprixcstr.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/f1000016-a-csmall.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/f1000009bb.jpg

A part of the skyline

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http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/img_1397.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b315/thx-rvg1/montrealatnight2.jpg

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http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/4933/montrealflstl9zh.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/5663/montrealcityfog1tm.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Montreal_Twilight_Panorama_2006.jpg

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http://xs137.xs.to/xs137/09101/69montreal_est736.jpg

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http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/25/montreal-pictures_6109.jpg

http://graphics.worldweb.com/PhotoImages/Articles/Canada/Skyline-Montreal.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3465766130_bf4d04c078_o.jpg

http://www.thecouchsessions.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/montreal.jpg

http://www.redtag.ca/travel-articles/content_images/May_June/montrealpic_Montreal_Jazz_Festival2.jpg

http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/montreal_harbour.jpg

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http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/allotoi81/DSC_0076-ps.jpg

Bangkok
Chicago
Dubai
Frankfurt am Main
Guangzhou
Hong Kong
Jakarta
Kuala Lumpur
Los Angeles
Melbourne
Metro Manila
Minneapolis
New York
Paris
Rio de Janeiro
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Shenzhen
Singapore CBD
Sydney
Tokyo
Toronto • City
Vancouver

interesting list

:nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno:

BUENOS AIRES - ARGENTINA!

Ok, since you got into this thread late, you didn't see that it said "Buenos Aires - US". What i did is what we call making a correction. Even so, i don't see why you reacted this way. In fact, its so ridiculous, i think i will also react this way to you

:nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::cheers::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno::nuts::ohno:

wow awesome pictures really greet's....

my top 25

1 Chicago
2 New York
3 Singapore
4 Tokyo
5 Toronto
6 Sydney
7 Paris
8 Hong Kong
9 Sao Paolo
10 London
11 Johhanesburg
12 Dubai
13 Melbourne
14 Warsaw
15 Buenos Aires
16 San Francisco
17 Doha
18 Montreal
19 Miami
20 Moscow
21 Brisbane
22 Manama
23 Boston
24 Manila
25 Jakarta

historical top 25

1 Athens
2 Rome
3 Prague
4 Cairo
5 St Petersburg
6 Marseille
7 Naples
8 Jerusalem
9 Mecca
10 Ankara
11 Glasgow
12 Seville
13 Venice
14 Budapest
15 Viena
16 Porto
17 Liverpool
18 Madrid
19 Stokholm
20 Warsaw
21 Turin
22 Oslo
23 Amsterdam
24 Manchester
25 Lissboa

São Paulo USA???
Could you fix it? São Paulo is in Brazil :)

what??? y isnt kuwait in the list it has one the most beautiful skylines

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/11793/kuwait_-_2008_01-_065.jpg


http://www.e.gov.kw/images/arabic/visitors/Topics/KuwaitPictures/KuwaitPresent/KuwaitTowers_And_LibrationTowers/T3B.jpg

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p143826-Kuwait-Kuwait_Towers.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2739814986_dfacb16bc2.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/90afll.jpg


http://i43.tinypic.com/domipx.jpg


http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3342/oman.png


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2401229622_b20bc7bded.jpg


http://www.djibnet.com/photo/2159375663_o-al-kout-shopping-mall-kuwait.jpg


http://themcode.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/111-hilary-duff-in-kuwait.jpg


http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/5103/souk-kuwaitcity.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2435/3961647939_05e29ac650_b.jpg


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/F9y/Kuwaitcity1-1.jpg


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/F9y/Kuwaitcity-2.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/3912241982_80082e7f1d_b.jpg


http://i29.tinypic.com/30hscoh.jpg


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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/3401256694_568213be11_o.jpg


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http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab24/dombuk/KFcenterview.jpg

Sanghai of course .

The posting of this ranking system (The World's Best Skylines (http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html)) has sparked heated debates in the past. It would be interesting to see if that trend continues here.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll295/eliasqt/skylines1.jpg

Thanks for this! :cheers:

again gentlemen, i think kuwait deserves to be on this list

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2483/3796789230_c0a92c772a_b.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/mn2nhv.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3403/3344590071_0ac1429c16.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3375189823_d4040bac16.jpg

is there any way to recall a vote. i accidentally voted for the wrong city.

Surely Edinburgh, Scotland should make the historical top 25...

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/76/91876-004-4A7F3FD8.jpg

http://edsphotoblog.com/wp-content/photos/800px/edinburgh_from_calton_hill.jpg

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/edinburgh/caltonhill/images/calton-450.jpg

For a medium-sized metro (3.3 million) Minneapolis/St. Paul has a very nice collection of buildings. Perhaps Minneapolis' skyline is noteworthy because it was designed by architects such as Philip Johnson, Cesar Pelli, I.M. Pei, Frank Gehry, Jean Nouvel, Herzog & DeMeuron, Minoru Yamasaki, Gunnar Birkerts, Kohn Pedersen Fox, Helmut Jahn and SOM, among others.

It's certainly a very photogenic city!

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1125/skylinemplsir01a.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/skylinemplsir01a.jpg/)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8252/skylinempls10carbonsilv.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/skylinempls10carbonsilv.jpg/) http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/skylinempls10carbonsilv.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img337/skylinempls10carbonsilv.jpg/1/) (by CarbonSilver)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4798/skylinempls16.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/i/skylinempls16.jpg/) (by CarbonSilver)

The Big Three... Left:225 South Sixth (now called Capella Tower), designed by Pei, Cobb, Freed. Center: Wells Fargo Center, designed by Cesar Pelli. Right: The IDS Center, designed by Philip Johnson, and considered by many to be his "masterpiece of modernism."
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/276/carbonsilver2998287658f.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/i/carbonsilver2998287658f.jpg/) (by CarbonSilver)

The Minneapolis Public Library, designed by Cesar Pelli:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3040/nicolletmall07of4.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/nicolletmall07of4.jpg/) (by Me)

ING North American HQ, designed by Minoru Yamasaki (this was the building he designed just prior to the World Trade Center in New York):
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6453/yamasaki01xk9.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/yamasaki01xk9.jpg/) http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/yamasaki01xk9.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img253/yamasaki01xk9.jpg/1/) (by Me)

The world's first fully suspended building: the Federal Reserve Bank's 9th District HQ. Floors above the "arc" are supported by columns resting on the arc. Floors below are hanging from the arc.)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6335/nicolletmall04cq1.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/i/nicolletmall04cq1.jpg/) (by Me)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/379/mplsnight03gx6.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/mplsnight03gx6.jpg/) (by Me)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1633/mplsnight05eu7.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/mplsnight05eu7.jpg/) (by Me)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2775/mplspanorama02hc1.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/i/mplspanorama02hc1.jpg/)

China will dominate world skylines in coming years. Given the faster-than-expected economic recovery in Asia, cities across Asia will continue to build longer and longer skylines.

Here is KUALA LUMPUR from a distance......
- An estimated 80+ buildings of various heights will come into the picture by 2015. About 18 of them are expected to be not less than 50 floors.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/191/23548404843d5ea001b7b.jpg

^^ Like many inland cities (those by the mountains and not by seas), KL has always been at a disadvantage when it comes to getting a nice vantage point of its entire skyline. Remember how KL skyline was being divided into 'pieces' in many photos and there's hardly any way to put the entire skyline together.

Now that KL has finally got its own viewing platform (Ampang Lookout Point), we can expect more quality KL skyline pics from now on. The 'wow' factor will last for a while since before this the pictures of the whole of KL skyline were extremely rare... and KL's skyline has certainly grown more massive since post #1 of this thread.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3949197807_600e9a1d2f_o.jpg

U think you at a disadvantage Johannesburg is huge but not lacated near any water source or any mountains just in the middle of the flatlands not even a river. i think it would be better if each continent had its own ranking otherwise its just unfair, not everyones got money to waste

Buenos Aires, Argentina.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4899/600x6001261453136nmh2.jpg

The Metro Manila Skyline

http://i29.tinypic.com/1sfr0p.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/332nuqt.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/3280685227_8400284c4a_b.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cxani0.jpg

http://www.stieglitz.org/travel/images/makati.jpg

http://gdr.callezaragosa.com/images/Bye-Metro-Manila-A.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/s5znrl.jpg



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3568/3773219623_f24c48519a_b.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/rkyez8.jpg

http://images.pjazurin.multiply.com/image/1/photos/370/1200x1200/1/asceND-15.jpg?et=JM5ghm5g1VKQYO9qkDCAMQ&nmid=212905725

http://images.pjazurin.multiply.com/image/1/photos/370/1200x1200/4/asceND-18.jpg?et=Imly%2CrGjUoFSHhF15%2CXsLQ&nmid=212905725

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/100/316829693_2b406c595e_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1247/558778328_bdc0ede67a.jpg?v=0

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/p10.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/m3.jpg

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/384453999_284ca5a624.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/3471107630_775c7dc5c7.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/3808981970_ca348bb7a7_b.jpg

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/3470331539_17a3196f16.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/3800825601_e49dff8ea7.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/enriquezdave/bgc/3808181857_b0dae43060.jpg

Metro Manila Skyline

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/3940812013_75ebc86908_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3987376043_8d589dd1d1_b.jpg

http://images.pixelized.multiply.com/image/5/photos/3/orig/80/makati%20by%20night.jpg?et=wQG0ogPiqhW%2C3DBunnz8mA&nmid=23690687

http://images.pixelized.multiply.com/image/9/photos/18/orig/9/2007%20PETRON%20makati%20goes%20dusk.jpg?et=SOi8vA7r5%2C9FLANZohpzwQ&nmid=63165958

http://images.pixelized.multiply.com/image/23/photos/3/orig/38/IMG_7806%20makati%20skyline.jpg?et=ypftDjPUKTp7C%2Bs%2BfLNiNA&nmid=23690687

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/charleyyymakati02-1.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/charleyyymakati01.jpg

And this is the whole seen of Metro Manila Skyline

http://www.pbase.com/manilaxperience/image/99860755/original.jpg

While reading this thread i got a thought. Isn't it strange that the worlds bioggest skyscraper building boom came after an event like 911? I thought that this event would stop the building of skyscrapers for a long time. But no, we are currently building as much skyscrapöers as never before.

Tel Aviv - Yafo
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4008/telaviv1.jpg

Kuala Lumpur and Tel Aviv are two nice cities..

1.
Bangkok, Thailand
Chicago, USA
Dubai, UAE
Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Guangzhou, China
Hong Kong, China
Jakarta, Indonesia
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Los Angeles, USA
Melbourne, Australia
Metro Manila, Philippines
Minneapolis, USA
New York • Manhattan, USA
Paris, France
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
San Francisco, USA
Sao Paulo, USA
Seattle, USA
Shanghai, China
Shenzhen, China
Singapore CBD, Singapore
Sydney, Australia
Tokyo, Japan
Toronto • City, Canada
Vancouver, Canada

New York • Manhattan, USA
Dubai, UAE
Hong Kong, China
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Sao Paulo,brazil

Metro Manila, Philippines skyline (photo taken from the northern hills-Antipolo)
http://images.micreations.multiply.com/image/1/photos/102/1200x1200/16/MICs-HDR-Images-16.jpg?et=2Ejf5x0WAPDb1XPq%2B3lsMw&nmid=299410139


(taken from the west-Manila bay)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%202009%20-%20FEB%2001/DSC_0385a.jpg

My vote goes to Shanghai.

The rankings have now been updated with the January figures. Sorry about the lack of images, I'm working on getting those filled in, time permits.

The rankings have now been updated with the January figures. Sorry about the lack of images, I'm working on getting those filled in, time permits.

Were there any position changes?

Were there any position changes?

certainly :)

Beyond the inclusion of Beijing, the only one that seems likely is the move into the top 10 of Dubai. I know Toronto's % went up, but stayed in the same position.

It would be great if we could start all the polls again from scratch. Many of the cities have changed so much over the past few years, while others haven't changed that much. I bet Shanghai would be in the top 3 or 4 if we started a new poll. Others, which I won't mention, would surely fall further down the list.

I'm shocked how far down Shenzhen and Los Angeles are. Most of the rest are near where I expect them to be.

my vote goes to mexico city! ja
yep coz i'm mexican! :D
lol ^.^"

Syempre, Metro Manila, Philippines!

very impresive, nanjing,guangzhou,tianjin,chongqin etc are not even on the list!
Nanjing
http://i.imagehost.org/0323/Yenanjing.jpg
http://i.imagehost.org/0478/Nanjingskyline200997.jpg
Guangzhou
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0491/Yuexiu_2C_Guangzhou_17_July_2009
http://g.imagehost.org/0849/Guangzhou_dusk_11-5-2008.png
Tianjin
http://i.imagehost.org/0537/Tianjin_Skyline_2009.jpg
Chongqing
http://i.imagehost.org/0597/99065.jpg

This list are wrong.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1125/skylinemplsir01a.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/skylinemplsir01a.jpg/)


Awesome photo of Minneapolis!

certainly :)

Have you ever considered doing a list by adding votes of 10, 9.5, and 9? Some people don't give out 10s. I don't think I've even given out a 9.5. I gave a 9 to 4 cities, and all the rest received 8.5 or less. By considering a range of marks, I believe you get a more accurate reading because you take into account the opinions of more people.

You could even do one by adding votes of 10, 9.5, 9, 8.5, and 8. No city is going to get 100% even with that range.

I would not be against that. Can you think of a quick algorithm to do the calculations?

Do you have the data in a spread sheet already? If not, it may be quicker just to count it. Only 25 cities + a few more would need to be done to make sure the actual 25 top vote getters are calculated.

I have to get to bed, but don't mind splitting it up with you. I could do all the odd numbered ones in your present ranking from #1 to #25, you could do #2 to #24. You could also do a few cities that you suspect are in the #26-#28 range just to make sure they don't bump up to a top 25.

I could forward my data to you tomorrow night. Are you interested in 10, 9.5, 9 OR 10, 9.5, 9, 8.5, 8? The first one might be too close to what you've already done. Who knows, one might end up with exactly the same ranking than your original regardless of which one is done.

very impresive, nanjing,guangzhou,tianjin,chongqin etc are not even on the list!
Nanjing
http://i.imagehost.org/0323/Yenanjing.jpg
http://i.imagehost.org/0478/Nanjingskyline200997.jpg
Guangzhou
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0491/Yuexiu_2C_Guangzhou_17_July_2009
http://g.imagehost.org/0849/Guangzhou_dusk_11-5-2008.png
Tianjin
http://i.imagehost.org/0537/Tianjin_Skyline_2009.jpg
Chongqing
http://i.imagehost.org/0597/99065.jpg

WOW! Nice to see these cities! definitely under rated!

Thanks, Modern World!!!

Do you have any more pictures of these cities? My thread (in the signature link) needs more of these!

Nice pictures

Thanks, Modern World!!!

Do you have any more pictures of these cities? My thread (in the signature link) needs more of these!

ok i will try to find some

Bangkok Panorama

Bangkok Panorama >>>>>>>>>>


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http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2435/bangkoknightwikimediaco.jpg

Sydney

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4253820516_b9426b5bb1_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/189347942_a6016b441b_b.jpg
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/141692820_f6da3be952_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1259/660393679_44f5bf882e_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chanc/660393679/sizes/o/

Top 25 Highrise Skylines & Top 25 Historical Skylines

Historical Skylines ? Hm !! I see in poll only Paris as historical city. Where Vienna ,Prague ,St Petersburg and other ?!!
I think this poll was created by non -european . Why so discrimination of Europe ? Or you think the skyline is better if more floors in buildings ?
I guees most people not think so !:bash:

Ваш грубый тон заставил меня переосмыслить нужду в вежливом ответе.

Ah, yes, suggesting non-European origins is the biggest insult you could throw at a certain type of people... almost as bad as questioning a Latin man's masculinity. :ohno:

Ranking
[old] Points CITY
update 2006-2007, 2008, 2009 Country Buildings
>90 m highest scoring building
(height)
[1] 1 84922
Hong Kong China 3018 International Commerce Centre (484m, u/c)
[2] 2 35811
New York (inc Jersey City, Fort Lee, Guttenburg) USA 866 One World Trade Center (417m)
will be listed as tribute to 9/11 victims until topping-out of new WTC1
[4] 3 19670
Tokyo (inc Kawaguchi, Kawasaki, Ichikawa) Japan 636 Mid Town Tower (248m)
[5] 4 18129
Shanghai China 539 Shanghai World Financial Cnter (492m)
[6] 5 16426
Chicago USA 339 Willis Tower (442m)
[3] 6 15262
Dubai UAE 263 Burj Dubai (818m, u/c)
[7] 7 13375
Bangkok Thailand 421 Baiyoke Tower II (304m)
[8] 8 10368
Guangzhou China 342 Guangzhou Twin Tower, West Tower (437m, u/c)
[9] 9 8849
Chongqing China 357 Chongqing World Trade Center (283m)
[10] 10 7923
Shenzhen China 240 Shun Hing Square (384m)
[11] 11 7697
Singapore Singapore 329 Republic Plaza (280m)
[13] 12 7674
Kuala Lumpur (inc Petaling Jaya, Subang Jaya) Malaysia 221 Petronas Tower 1 (452m)
[12] 13 7195
Seoul South Korea 264 Tower Palace Three, Tower G (264m)
[16] 14 6598
Manila (metro inc. Makati, Mandaluyong, Ortigas, Quezon City) Philippines 175 PBCOM Tower (259m)
[15] 15 6053
Toronto (inc. Mississauga) Canada 222 First Bank Tower (298m)
[19] 16 5590
Jakarta Indonesia 180 Wisma 46 (250m)
[18] 17 5473
Osaka (inc. Sakai, Amagasaka) Japan 149 Osaka World Trade Center (252m)
[20] 18 5371
Beijing China 258 China World Trade Center Tower 3 (330m)
[23] 19 4909
Miami (inc Miami Beach) USA 112 Four Seasons Hotel & Tower (240m)
[22] 20 4903
Nanjing China 98 Nanjing Greenland Financial Center (380m, u/c)
[24] 21 4812
Houston (inc Pasadena) USA 114 JPMorganChase Tower (305m)
[25] 22 4693
Sydney (inc. N. Sydney, Chatswood, Bondi, St. Leonards) Australia 137 Chifley Tower (244m)
[17] 23 4411
Moscow Russia 152 Moscow, City of Capitals (300m, u/c)
[26] 24 3978
São Paulo Brazil 289 Mirante do Vale (170m)
[28] 25 3842
Los Angeles (inc Burbank, El Segundo, W Hollywood) USA 90 US Bank Tower (310m)
[29] 26 3626
Melbourne Australia 105 Eureka Tower (297m)
[30] 27 3564
Atlanta (inc Vinnings, North Atlanta) USA 90 Bank of America Plaza (312m)
[31] 28 3435
San Francisco USA 102 Transamerica Pyramid (260m)
[14] 29 3274
Panama City Panama 101 Ocean Two (236m, u/c)
[34] 30 2959
Wuhan China 155 Minsheng Bank Building (331m

http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html ^^

That list is composed from Emporis's data which (as has been pointed out on here about a billion times) is as reliable as a promise of a bank vault full of Nigerian pounds...

LOL

i vote for other (Buenos Aires, Argentina)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4014/4360879487_fb64d427c0_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedkaiser/4360879487/

Buenos Aires
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7818/6189271df4.jpg

all skylines are unique and impressive on their own

ranking now
1=manhattan
2=hongkong
3=chicago
4=kuala lumpur
5=shanghai
6=toronto
7=phillipine
8=dubai
9=tokyo
10=bangkok

whereis singapore ?

i think singapore most better than kuala lumpur

whereis singapore ?

i think singapore most better than kuala lumpur

no lah..singapore is overrated,its skyline is small,if u put singapore inside kl,this city will drawn in kl,the tallest one in singapore is around 200m++,and average building is aroun70-100m,the skyline of kuala lumpur is bigger,n the building twice taller than singapore,n there are many beautiful reconizing landmark decorate the skyline such telekom tower,petronas,maybank tower,kuala lumpur tower n most of building in kuala lumpur is 200m++ to compare to singapore

Hi !When will be Fact Sheet apdates ? I see only January ranks . Any changes ?

I love Bangkok
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i love kl

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Bangkok is a great city. The skyline would look better if there are more than 5 300m++ buildings as the city centre area is pretty large

1. Chicago, New York
3. Hong Kong

Outside of that it's a toss-up

mmmm Panamá City in Panamá Republic

kuala lumpur without ptt
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i think jakarta skyline better than KL...:banana::banana::banana:

New York 98

Hong Kong 95

Chicago 77

Kuala Lumpur 68

Shanghai 61

Bangkok 54

Toronto 47

Jarkatar 46

Manila 40

Dubai 38

7 cities from Asia?

in KL when without Petronas.... i can not immagine how is your ranking......

kuala lumpur without ptt
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without Petronas, the city itself doesn't really stand out:ohno:

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i think jakarta skyline better than KL...:banana::banana::banana:

i dont think so..:ohno:jakarta city itself doesnt impressed me,without iconic building+no focus point+with less glass building..nobody will reconize it if you put your city pic without label it"JAKARTA'...

Moscow.

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i dont think its call iconic,not anyone reconize this style of skyline

i think jakarta skyline better than KL...:banana::banana::banana:
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i dont think that one^^is greater then this
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KL is hardly historic and without PTT it's nothing. Secondly, how nice of you to post a horrible photo of Jakarta.

Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines

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I LOVE KL.........

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I took these photos from the Indonesia's Regional Thread
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Talking about an Iconic Building, Wisma BNI '46 (The one with the shape of blue pen / sail) might be the Jakarta's most iconic one. Although the pictures above don't show us the Jakarta's Skyline wholly.

Jakarta
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i dont think that one^^is greater then this
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This post shows how hypocrite u r
You compare the ugly side of Jakarta with the best side of KL.
No doubt, each citiy has their own beauty. But the fact is the size of KL CBD is really small compare to Jakarta. Actually, the KL skyline is just around the Petronas Tower, that's why almost in every pics of KL skyline u see, u will see the Petronas Tower too.
Jakarta is wellknown of it's iconic buildings. Just check the Wisma BNI, Bakrie Tower, The Regatta, Ritz Carlton Jakarta, and still many2 more. While KL is lack of it.
But of course, KL is cleaner, somehow more advance (transportation, public infrastructure, etc).
For me, personally, I prefer Jakarta to KL.

This post shows how hypocrite u r
You compare the ugly side of Jakarta with the best side of KL.
No doubt, each citiy has their own beauty. But the fact is the size of KL CBD is really small compare to Jakarta. Actually, the KL skyline is just around the Petronas Tower, that's why almost in every pics of KL skyline u see, u will see the Petronas Tower too.
Jakarta is wellknown of it's iconic buildings. Just check the Wisma BNI, Bakrie Tower, The Regatta, Ritz Carlton Jakarta, and still many2 more. While KL is lack of it.
But of course, KL is cleaner, somehow more advance (transportation, public infrastructure, etc).
For me, personally, I prefer Jakarta to KL.

I wouldn't say that side of Jakarta that they posted was ugly per se, it just didn't show that many high-rise buildings in comparison to the photos they used for KL. I reckon what they tried to do was pretty disgusting.

I definitely share the same sentiments with many others here, KL is a bore and nothing without its PTT, in fact PTT stands out like a sore thumb. Bangkok, Singapore and Jakarta top my list any day for South East Asian major cities' skyline.

IMO, Makati (Metro Manila) and Singapore have the most recognizable skylines in Southeast Asia. (KL has the most recognizable towers..)

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I definitely share the same sentiments with many others here, KL is a bore and nothing without its PTT, in fact PTT stands out like a sore thumb. Bangkok, Singapore and Jakarta top my list any day for South East Asian major cities' skyline.


I think every SEA cities has its own uniqueness, example singapore with beautiful cbd, bangkok with long stretch skyline, kl with iconic building, jkt nice skyscraper design and manila nice and modern cbd..

Yeah, better stop comparing one city to another. Every cities has their own beauty and uniqueness.

This post shows how hypocrite u r
You compare the ugly side of Jakarta with the best side of KL.
No doubt, each citiy has their own beauty. But the fact is the size of KL CBD is really small compare to Jakarta. Actually, the KL skyline is just around the Petronas Tower, that's why almost in every pics of KL skyline u see, u will see the Petronas Tower too.
Jakarta is wellknown of it's iconic buildings. Just check the Wisma BNI, Bakrie Tower, The Regatta, Ritz Carlton Jakarta, and still many2 more. While KL is lack of it.
But of course, KL is cleaner, somehow more advance (transportation, publitc infrastructure, etc).
For me, personally, I prefer Jakarta to KL.

sory if it make u hurt,i dont mean to compare that "ugly side"(i dont mention it,u admitted it yourself)i think good skyline is skyline with centre point,and more highrise building,so i show the pic center of jakarta which is "monas"and the skyline center of kuala lumpur which is ptt..that all

sory if it make u hurt,i dont mean to compare that "ugly side"(i dont mention it,u admitted it yourself)i think good skyline is skyline with centre point,and more highrise building,so i show the pic center of jakarta which is "monas"and the skyline center of kuala lumpur which is ptt..that all

the center point of jakarta's skyline is not monas, monas is more like a memorial park, that's why the buildings around it are mid-rise.
the center of jakarta is thamrin or sudirman area.

IMO, Jakarta skyline is better than KL.

sory if it make u hurt,i dont mean to compare that "ugly side"(i dont mention it,u admitted it yourself)i think good skyline is skyline with centre point,and more highrise building,so i show the pic center of jakarta which is "monas"and the skyline center of kuala lumpur which is ptt..that all

jakarta has more highrise than kl..why don't u show the best part of jakarta where most of highrise located?...no need to argue which city is better..the vote already shown who is most favorite..but it doesn't mean everyone need to agree with u...if he/she think jakarta is better than Kl...nothing wrong with that because this is just his/her personal opinion..others may have other opinion too...

sory if it make u hurt,i dont mean to compare that "ugly side"(i dont mention it,u admitted it yourself)i think good skyline is skyline with centre point,and more highrise building,so i show the pic center of jakarta which is "monas"and the skyline center of kuala lumpur which is ptt..that all

Okay . . .
I hope u can a little bit more respectful to the other's opinion.
Monas is a monument (that's why the name is "Monas/Monumen Nasional/National Monument"), and i. Just like Washington Monument in US.

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i dont think its call iconic,not anyone reconize this style of skyline

Yeah, coz u take the usual and ordinary buildings and some of them even haven't finished yet. Mmmmm . . .
Suggest u to be more concious to the environment around you :nuts::nuts: . . . Or u r trying to embarrase Jakarta?
LOL . . .:lol::lol::lol:

typical Southeast Asian ppl! comparing things to one another :(

why don't u show the best part of jakarta where most of highrise located?

KUNINGAN BUSINES DISTRIC
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by Riefa IstamaR

SUDIRMAN BUSINESS DISTRIC
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Photo By SpectoR

Personally I think this kind of thread is worthless ... what's the point of comparing bananas and apples? Enhancing of one's ego?

no lah..singapore is overrated,its skyline is small,if u put singapore inside kl,this city will drawn in kl,the tallest one in singapore is around 200m++,and average building is aroun70-100m,the skyline of kuala lumpur is bigger,n the building twice taller than singapore,n there are many beautiful reconizing landmark decorate the skyline such telekom tower,petronas,maybank tower,kuala lumpur tower n most of building in kuala lumpur is 200m++ to compare to singapore



The Singapore Skyline will be much more iconic then Kuala Lumpurs Skyline when Marina Bay is built up and the average hight of a building in Singapore is not around 70-100m but 190-250m. Singapore also has buildings decorating the skyline such as The Maybank Tower,The Fullerton Hotel, The Sail@Marina Bay and the Upcoming Marina Bay Sands, Marina Bay Financial Center, Ocean Financial Center, One Shenton and Asia Square.In the Singapore masterplan, there are plans to build two buildings of an average hight of 320m in the new downtown Marina Bay.

its soon....not now,but for now,kualalumpur rule the sea skyline.
kl also has great coming soon project around city center..
lot c klcc 60storey 267m
four season centre 65 storey
naza tower 50storey
felda tower 50storey
grand hyat 50storey

http://www.diserio.com/top15-skylines.html

i think with hong kong new york, and chicago, you could put those top three in any order, but just to put it out there i agree with this website that i found with the rankings.
1.hong kong.
2.chicago.
3.new york city

over time i think it might change though.
BUT IM FROM CHICAGO, LOVE NEW YORK, AND GIVE PROPS TO HONG KONG!

I have Hong Kong, New York, and Shanghai in my top 3, but Chicago could easily be included in that group as well.

My choice is Hongkong Chicago Newyork Shanghai
in no order
hardly to rank these four

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nothing spesial la....
now ,next year and next year always like that :lol:

its soon....not now,but for now,kualalumpur rule the sea skyline.
kl also has great coming soon project around city center..
lot c klcc 60storey 267m
four season centre 65 storey
naza tower 50storey
felda tower 50storey
grand hyat 50storey

True i like these upcoming projects in Kuala Lumpur:

The Intermark
Four Seasons Centre
Millennium Residences
St Regis Kuala Lumpur

nothing spesial la....
now ,next year and next year always like that :lol:

nothing special?:hammer::hammer:
are you blind?or it just your jealousy word?
u cannot see the special there?
so pity...
just look at the self standing avantgarde twin tower n kl tower,those are amazing n fuckin stunning!!:nuts::nuts: