This thread is only for low and mid rise developments under 40m around Adelaide.

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ADELAIDE CBD


Centro Apartments; Pulteney Street; 6 levels; Proposed

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p91e6c8fad2fc3767a35ef77256c4911b/fcf8ffbc.jpg


Bent Street Apartments; Corner Bent Street and York Street; 6 levels; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/pba760743b218666f8ff89a2a1a243507/fcf8ffbe.jpg


Aqua Apartments; Flinders Street; 7 levels; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p3aef26b799b5f9e1e941852e5fa5332e/fcf8ffbf.jpg


Alpha Apartments; Frome Street; 9 levels; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p2361030d76c1d48f4803abd680d15d66/fcf8ffc0.jpg


Maximo Apartments; Pulteney Street; 7 levels; Proposed

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/pada3a27c40b9004a90cd8b6b5f457d40/fcf87ae0.jpg

Majestic Roof Garden Hotel; Frome Street; 8 levels; U/C

]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/pfe41f09b101e39d16bbd645fe12b8927/fcf87ae3.jpg



Lumiere Apartments; Halifax Street; 5 levels; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p8b9b38d23e3f568079c9aa244b6476ed/fcf87ae4.jpg

Windsor Apartments; Hurtle Square; 5 levels; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p0471d71fe3e46f8633c4e765464da27b/fcf87482.jpg


Queen's Apartments; corner King William Street and Halifax Street; 2 x 6 level buildings and one 8 level building; U/C

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p513c60f4fd3ae824bf9920868b785233/fae5fefa.jpg


Domain Apartments; Grenfell Street; 8 levels; Approved

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pf929ecaed1fc4ec4209ff8826ca5909e/fae60075.jpg

Dakota on Wyatt; Wyatt Street; 9 levels; Approved

http://www.flinderslink.com.au/dakota/jpg/external.jpg


Optus Tower Apartment Complex; King William Street; 8 levels; approved

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_60/300/CBRE_60_26563_16005.jpg

do they count ground floor as a floor in adelaide?

Originally posted by dilaz89
do they count ground floor as a floor in adelaide?

They generally do in most places in the world.

New one...

Light Square Development Underpins Strong Demand For Premium Office Space
16/02/04
(ACC website)

A high quality, eight-level office development to be built at Light Square will accommodate up to 500 City workers, underpinning strong demand for premium office space in the City.

An application from Tritan Corporation Pty Ltd to construct the office building 52-58 Light Square, on the corner of Playhouse Lane, was approved by the Development Assessment Panel tonight.

With a floor area of 7264m2, the development involves demolishing an existing building and constructing the multi-level building with basement car parking for 30 vehicles accessible from Playhouse Lane.

Designed by Woodhead International the building includes energy efficient features including thermal insulation, glazing, sun shading, low energy fittings, recycled materials and natural light.

There is an opportunity for a café to be developed on the ground floor which would spill out into Light Square, and the entrance is pedestrian-friendly with a cover over the public footpath.

“Construction of this high quality office development is good news for the City,” the Lord Mayor, Mr Michael Harbison, said.

“In the past six months three major office development projects have been approved which will add an extra 50,649 m2 office space in the City, and, taking the Light Square development into account, space for an extra 4,000 City workers over the next few years.

“The development reflects growing business interest in investing in the City and maintains the City as the principal focus for business in South Australia.

“There is strong demand for premium office space, with not enough of this type of space currently available in the City.

“While the City’s vacancy rate has flat lined at 11%, this is a short term trend, symptomatic of a market where office tenants are preparing to move into A grade accommodation as lesser quality space is vacated for redevelopment and taken off the market.”

The Light Square proposal is an 8 storey building - I think it's on the corner part between the arts center thingy and Night Train.

There's also a 9 storey commo named "Admiral" approved for Hindmarsh Square.

Originally posted by yob
The Light Square proposal is an 8 storey building - I think it's on the corner part between the arts center thingy and Night Train.

There's also a 9 storey commo named "Admiral" approved for Hindmarsh Square.

Actually this building will be built at the other end of Light Square, I have just checked my street directory, and Playhouse Lane is on the opposite side to the TAFE Arts building.


On the topic of low-rise buildings, there is a 5 level office block currently U/C on the corner of Flinders and Frome Streets.

Alpha apartments coming along nicely by the looks of it (not sure how long ago these were taken but):

http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Vaughan-Place1_small.jpg

http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Front-View-_-small.jpg

Those pics of Alpha Apartments are a week old, max. It's looking cool, and i'm urging everyone to check out the feature of the facade on the frome road end - it's half done and looks ultra sweet! It's a photo of the old john martins store from the 1920's embossed in the metal.... that's going to look so fucking nice when it's all finished and probably lit up at night!

I was in Adelaide on the W/E and I agree it looks pretty slick. Also the top part of the building can be seen sticking up above the surrounding buildings from many spots to the east of the CBD so it should add a touch of class to the skyline from this direction.

For anyone that cares, Dakota is U/C.

I do :D

as far as I could make out the other day the entire Flinders link site was being cleared - hopefully this means they'll soon make a start to the other buildings as well as Dakota

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/DSCN0362.JPG

Originally posted by Will
Actually this building will be built at the other end of Light Square, I have just checked my street directory, and Playhouse Lane is on the opposite side to the TAFE Arts building.


There is a rendering of this project in the City Messenger from a couple of weeks ago. It will be built on the southern side of Playhouse.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/DSCN0357.JPG

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/DSCN0360.JPG

Bent St apartments:

http://www.users.on.net/walkert/shawns3d/images/bent_st/bent_sta.jpg

http://property.com.au/cgi-bin/getmedia.cgi?system=property&media=4410880/i1.jpg

A tower crane is on site at Dakota now. It's not assembled but a white PT Building services is there.

Thanks for the updates yob - nice angle of alpha from across Rundle Street.

New one from Advertiser today (render looks schlick...alas no scanner)


$30m plan for creche site
By ANDREW HOUGH
13mar04

IT has sat empty for eight years and was once the home of a building described as the "pride and joy for women around the state".

The derelict South Adelaide creche site in Gouger St, city, was the location for Australia's first child care centre. Many battles were fought to save the heritage-listed building, which was dismantled eight years ago.

Now a $30 million development, to be considered by Adelaide City Council on Monday night, is likely to finally take its place..

The plans, which were submitted by property developers the Kambitsis group, are for a seven-storey retail and office complex to be built at 13-21 Gouger St.

The development – which will be be called the Minter Ellison Building – has been labelled non-complying by an internal council staff report to the panel's members.

"It is clear, on the face of it, that this proposal would have significant benefits for this part of Gouger St," the report says.

"However, it is equally clear that the proposal contravenes to a very considerable degree the requirements of the plan relating to podium height. This, coupled with the very substantial amount of additional floorspace proposed for the site, results in a building of much greater bulk that is envisaged by the plan."

If approved, the development is expected to take 15 months.

The development's plans include space for 400 office workers, 47 car parks and a roof garden.

The building will be home to law firm Minter Ellison.

Kambitsis director, George Kambitsis said yesterday the building had a five–star green rating.

He also said it was "sensitive" to the precinct's character.

"The green rating is more than just energy conservation but it also creates a better working environment," he said.

Mr Kambitsis bought the site in 1994 and had the facade removed from the State heritage list.

Despite protests, the building was demolished on the condition the bricks were numbered and stored. He said last night the old creche would be given three different memorials, which was "more than just a plaque".

He said a female artist would be commissioned to create a piece of public art symbolising the creche, an interpretive display to be created in a nearby public space, with photographs, model and history.

A historian would collect, compile and research the creche, with the results donated to the State Library.

One of the creche's key supporters, former lord mayor, current member for Adelaide and state education minister Jane Lomax–Smith, said yesterday she was "still outraged" at the way the heritage-listed building was treated. She had once described the creche as an example of Adelaide's "non-male history".

"I feel severely let down by the process because that site was heritage listed," she said.

"It was the pride for women everywhere."

There's also a 6-7 level apartment complex with roof garden planned for the site of the Tivoli Hotel (across the road from garden east, next to tandanya). The plan is to retain the front bar and hotel portion and build the complex behind it. 26 apartments from memory. Should make for a nicely dense midrise area in the east end - with garden east, and on the other side of the road this building and Domain apartments close by.

Here's the render of the building in Pikey's article.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/creche.jpg

I don't have a scanner... so I used the digicam :D

I wonder how many mid-rise buildings are being planned or are under construction in the southern half of the City. There's so many small projects that I've never heard of before beginning to emerge. :dizzy:

Thanks for the photos of Alpha Yob.

Alpha is coming along really nicely, it appears larger and taller than what I had imagined.

A great addition to that part of the city.

A crappy photo of the Dakota site with tower crane unassembled on site

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/49194248.jpg

Taken once again from my car!

New one (methinks). At 5 storeys, not exactly awe-inspiring but quite interesting anyway. I like the way they've incorporated the old cottage into the ground level - somehow makes it vaguely reminiscent of a Swiss chalet. The 'green' design emphasis is good too.

http://img.domain.com.au/img/0/2004303562_1_FS.JPG?ts=632173931414143750

http://img.domain.com.au/img/0/2004303562_3_FS.JPG?ts=632173931414143750

http://img.domain.com.au/img/0/2004303562_2_FS.JPG?ts=632173931414143750

WTF? It looks more like some little kid's drawing of a building than a rendering. :|

WTF? It looks more like some little kid's drawing of a building than a rendering. :|

I know what you mean, it's pretty loose. But I think it communicates the point pretty well - stormwater is captured and recycled for irrigation of integrated vegetation, which in turn provide temperature-moderating benefits etc etc. This sort of thing should be done more often, especially in Adelaide where the rainfall is low and temperatures in summer are high. :)

Well the new office block on the cnr of Flinders & Frome has ended up looking quite slick, although it has to be said it looks a little bit like a podium with the tower gone missing...

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/KF/KF_71/300/KF_71_29490_17471.jpg

Dakota on Wyatt... is this a crane I see before me?

http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/Picture%20002a.jpg

http://urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/Picture%20003a.jpg

It's been there for ages ducka. Since midway through march

So any idea what's going on with it?

They have to finish demolishing that building that cafe Venere sits in... I'd say things should get going in the next week or two, as the demolition has almost begun...

Haven't seen anything posted on the UniSA campus developments.

Some fantastic architecture here:



City West:


http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/City-west-site-2.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/City-West-Nth-Tce-facade.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/City-West-Site-3B.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/Hawkecentre.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/LouiseLaybourne.jpg




City East:


http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityEast/CE-SWL.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityEast/CE-Night-Shot.jpg




Mawson Lakes:


http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/MawsonLakes/NewBSW.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/MawsonLakes/MawsonCentreFromSW.jpg

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/MawsonLakes/MLLibrary02.jpg

Yeah i'm at the city east campus, they've started attaching the facade to the new health sciences building, and are now building a new uni bar on the land in front of it :D

Awesome! Love that Nth Terrace facade, very funky (and glad to see there's a few others on the forum who appreciate the architecture and not just the height stats)

Thanks for sharing these images pants.

I hadn't realised how excellent these structures would look like, before this all I'd seen was a small black & white picture in the paper. These buildings are a great addition to our city, and personally some of the best examples of modern architecture in the state.

No problem guys.

I'm as excited about these as I am any of the towers proposed recently.

The architecture here, especially the Hawke building, will smash the perception (well, reality really) that Adelaide developments lack imagination.

This will also be seen with the Flinders Link, Commonwealth Law Courts, City Central and City West developments, but some of the Uni buildings are on a whole different level.

Another exciting thing, although the news on it has gone quiet for a while, is that Damien Lester is (was) planning to test the city's height limits with a $100m scraper in the north west corner (near the Newmarket Hotel), designed by some of the same team of architects.

Anyone know what's happening with that BTW?

While we're on the topic, the new 5 level advertiser building surely must also fit into the category of new and genuinely exciting mid-rise architecture in Adelaide. The building will apparently be one of Australia's most high-tech & energy efficient and will also have a 'dynamically changing' glass facade. At around $60 million total cost, or an amazing $12 million per floor, all I can say is that it had sure better be good! :)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/pa9d2963c287a3757fb5fabd7768cb5d9/f7d2c3c3.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid128/pe34226661ee83bbd51b55aaadec97371/f7d2c3c1.jpg


The Damien Lester building is news to me (who is Damien Lester anyway?)

The thing I have heard with the 5 level Advertiser building is the Waymouth St facade, will be constantly changing, almost billboard style, with news headlines, advertising and graphics being constantly displayed!!

Everyone ought to go down to the East End and check out Alpha Apartments from the back. The brick facade is finished on the bottom and nearly all the glass is on, it looks bloody fantastic!

Another exciting thing, although the news on it has gone quiet for a while, is that Damien Lester is (was) planning to test the city's height limits with a $100m scraper in the north west corner (near the Newmarket Hotel), designed by some of the same team of architects.

Anyone know what's happening with that BTW?I've never heard of it...? If anyone knows anything, I'm keen to hear it too :)

It was a front page story in the city Messenger about mid last year.

Basically Damien Lester (a car park guy who owns a lot of property in the NW corner and had a failed AC councilor campaign last year) was saying that he wants to go as high as he can for around $100 million, as the views in that corner would be amazing.

Haven't heard anything since.

I assume he was earmarking the development for the vacant buildings east of the Newmarket Hotel fronting North Tce, but if it was them, they're for lease at the moment, so he might have shelved the plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happended, but it's at least worth looking out for.

It was mentioned that he bought up all the land on the corner, and i've always assumed that it'd be built on the North Terrace site with the 2 empty rundown buildings. I wouldn't look into their being for lease, they've been vacanat for over a year and a half.

No firm time frame was ever given.

I'm sure the views from that location would be stunning, however the building itself might look a tad odd in the skyline given the context of low to mid-rise (which wont be changing anytime soon). You only have to look at the Optus building on King William Street to know what I'm talking about, and in this location the effect would be far more pronounced.

IMO a height-limit testing building would be better located more centrally to reinforce the 'pyramid' effect - but another Horizon-type number might be just the right thing in this location :)

Even with a 50m building he would be seriously testing the height restrictions for that part of the city.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that height restrictions for that part of the city are only 25-30m.

The height limit to the North Terrace frontage in that precinct is 26.6m, so he could go up to about 9 stories (but that's pushing the envelope).

Newmarket Hotel (1-7 Nth Tce) is heritage listed too. Did you say he owns that? Or just the vacant stuff next door?

Regards,
Boyler Room

I'd doubt it's the same owner of the Newmarket... from what I gather, Bikers aren't generally huge in the skyscraper development business ;)

Alpha getting close to finished:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p7493aa556e3f5078ceecc6d303e33930/f784c14d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/pef75a9b296e1b98e687d5ceb83dd2114/f784c141.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/p78750a4e4dd7214d2e1da11c8a0a2299/f784c127.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/pf8206553cedb7c85672b01fcdc003bb5/f784c13b.jpg

and Bent St apartments emerging from wraps:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid133/pd13dc0d7a923519ec624a492b1f15258/f784c145.jpg

Does alpha have public carparking built in, or is that for tennants only?

There's 5 levels of parking, so I assume there's public parking in there (unless tenants own 7 cars each).

One thing that always pops in my head when I check out this building - how much would it piss you off if you lived there, and every week some hoon with a stereo made your floor vibrate at 2am...

Alpha and Bent are coming along very nicely, that part of the city has improved a lot over the last few years. The Garden East Apartments, the Maxwell Building, the Ritz Hotel and the Majestic Roof Hotel have all given a very elegant and modern appearance to the Rundle Street area.

every week some hoon with a stereo made your floor vibrate at 2am...
Sorry... lol

New one, from the ACC website. Can't for the life of me remember what the Tivoli Hotel looks like - anyone got a pic?


Curtain Goes Up on New Future for Tivoli Hotel
16 August 2004

A multi-level apartment, restaurant and residential car parking building in Pirie Street on the site of the historic Tivoli Hotel was tonight approved by the Development Assessment Panel of the Adelaide City Council.

The proposal involves the upgrade the existing Tivoli Hotel and construction of a seven storey building providing housing for around 70 people, straddling the single storey historic musical hall and theatre building at the rear of the Tivoli Hotel.

The existing Tivoli Hotel will be maintained and upgraded and have an up-market bar on the ground floor and 10 hotel suites on the first floor. The heritage music hall at the rear of the Hotel will be converted to a quality fine food restaurant. The first two levels of the building will contain 28 car parking spaces for residents and the upper five levels will offer 24 residential apartments. Levels three to five will be two bedroom apartments and levels six and seven will offer six three bedroom apartments over two levels.

The Lord Mayor Mr Michael Harbison said: "This is an exciting positive development for the City which encourages City living and active street frontage in the rapidly developing East End of the City."

"It is an innovative project which not only retains a building of remarkable and unusual structure but also preserves an integral link to our past dating back to 1850.

"Approval ensures the viability of restoring the hotel land use, which has stood vacant since 2002, and upgrades the heritage fabric of the building and the City."

Sad day... :(

Had many a good night in the Tiv as "nations" and "rush"...

I remember seeing Damaged play there. Shook the building around nicely. :D

It's not really a nice looking building at all IMO. Gutted though that instead of heavy metal tharash fests, it's now going to play host to winewankers enjoying their steak.

Yeah, now that you mention heavy metal music I've got a vague recollection of the place now...vague most probably due to inebriation at the time ;)

I literally looks like a country hotel from the front, which has had it's bricks painted a creamy colour... It has a balcony which extends all the way along the front, which hasn't been used for years due to safety...

Sad, another great local rock venue bites the dust. There is so much history in that place someone should write a book.

After the crane base has been sitting on the Advertiser site, the new crane is finally going up this morning. The first floor pour looks nearly there.

Sad, another great local rock venue bites the dust. There is so much history in that place someone should write a book.

For me, it was part of the big 3 - The Crown and Anchor, 7 Stars Hotel and Tivoli (as far as live music goes). 7 Stars is probably safe from developers but there's a massive anti noise nimby brigade around there, and well.... the cranka is in midrise residential development heartland.... please no :(

I hear that the Austral is also under the pump.
I guess I go back another generation, these were my faves, The Tiv, Old Lion (ruined by development) and the Bridgeway and believe it or not the Glenelg footy club was the place to be on Sundays, before Lennies killed it off (King of all pickup joints). This could be a new thread – Adelaide favorite venues.

Any else seen this render??? I aint, but it loos rather swoooit!!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3159/101813159al1093228820.jpg

Rather bland don't you think?

http://www.photoadelaide.com/gal/2004/09/36_std.jpg

http://www.photoadelaide.com/gal/2004/09/43_std.jpg

The sign atop the Bent St apartments is definitely a fitting one for Adelaide... especially just off Rundle St :)

Fitting design too - you stumble through the laneway, look at the top corner and think "i'm like... standing sideways?"

Excellent photos thanks AtD
Both of these buildings are classy additions to the East End IMO :okay:

Think Bent is a fantastic addition. It's just a shame that it doesn't have a prominant enough frontage, being hidden away behind the Austral.

Have to say that I'm disappointed with both Alpha and the Majestic Hotel though. Given the profile of the land they're on and the supposed vibrancy of the area, I can't help but feel that more cutting edge architecture was needed.

Hope y'all can read this
interesting idea, although I would have thought we have enough open space and landscaped areas in the CBD vicinity as it is

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/pf1b8c3a0339c285417056ce4828b785a/f6eac697.jpg

They should stop these large fringe office developments
and force these developers to build in the City. The
city is dying for extra development and the increased
density would make Adelaide more atractive. Why not
build a landmark tower which could accomodate all
the office space of the proposed 6 - 5 storey buildings.

I am not against this development however i would
like to see it in the City Square Mile rather than the
fringe.

What are others thoughts on this?

They should stop these large fringe office developments
and force these developers to build in the City. The
city is dying for extra development and the increased
density would make Adelaide more atractive. Why not
build a landmark tower which could accomodate all
the office space of the proposed 6 - 5 storey buildings.

I am not against this development however i would
like to see it in the City Square Mile rather than the
fringe.

What are others thoughts on this?

My thoughts are that I welcome increased actvity in the CBD, however Adelaide suffers from being extremely centralised on its CBD. Take public transport for instance - people complain about buses only going into the city, yet the reason for this is there's nowhere else to commute if you want to work, it's all in the city. Decentralisation would decrease traffic problems a lot more than a few ads on TV telling us to "get up and go" on special buses that only ever serve the eastern suburbs anyway.

Fringe development is okay in my book, although I don't want it in Richmond, we need increased residential densities there because WAFC has 1:10 supporters that every other SANFL side has :p

Yob, I agree there needs to be more residential buildings
on the fringe, however the proposal was for 5-6 6 storey
office buildings on Richmond Road....
I agree development should be decrentralised
and todays notice that the Port Adelaide development
was going ahead is great news. Glenelg should be further
developed as should Marion, Norlunga, Norwood and the CBD
fringe. However Office buildings should be in the CBD i
believe. The city would look a lot more attractive by removing
some of those tin shed warehouses that take up so much
space in the western and southern sectors of the CBD.

Yob, I agree there needs to be more residential buildings
on the fringe, however the proposal was for 5-6 6 storey
office buildings on Richmond Road....
I agree development should be decrentralised
and todays notice that the Port Adelaide development
was going ahead is great news. Glenelg should be further
developed as should Marion, Norlunga, Norwood and the CBD
fringe. However Office buildings should be in the CBD i
believe. The city would look a lot more attractive by removing
some of those tin shed warehouses that take up so much
space in the western and southern sectors of the CBD.

My whole point about decentralisation is that not all commercial uses should be limited to the CBD.

Would you like to have the Balfours Central West project
next to your house then in the burbs rather than the City?
The heritage group in the city could then list the Balfours
Factory on the heritage list never to be demolished, hahaha.

Decentralisation A Good Idea, But City Should Be Developed
Too.... As It Lacks Both Height, Density and Architectural
Quality. Too Many Tin Sheds and Boring Warehouses

Balfours central west is a residential deveopment, which is something I really think the city needs more of. But i'm drawing a distinction between residential and commercial development. While i'd love a whole lot more commercial stuff going up in town as well, i'd like to be able to work close to home rather than having to commute for half an hour. I like what Sydney is doing, with commercial hubs being developed at chatswood, paramatta, Bondi Junction, etc etc. I think there's great potential to do the same in areas like Glenelg and the Port.

I think the general theme for me is just build commercial shit whenever and whereever, as long as it's accessible, and in close proximity to large residential population.

AST, forcing developers to build in the city is a foolish idea, IMO. Do you want to keep an absolutely dead inner city in Adelaide like we currently have? I'd prefer we have a bit more building activity occur over more of the city rather than all of it in one tiny area. There'd be absolutely no point building a single thirty level building at Keswick because it'd be cheaper to build 5 six level buildings anyway, and there's a ton of former industrial land out there to build on. I actually think it would be better if we had a little bit more of this occurring in the inner suburbs, as well as some medium and high residential projects with retail, already beginning to appear around the new City West Connector.

If the major suburban centres are to develop further, surrounding suburbs need better public transport access and frequencies. Noarlunga Centre is pretty well covered, as is Glenelg, Norwood and Marion (would be good to see some better access to Oaklands station though). If the inner suburbs are to be further developed, they'd require better public transport access to one another, as there is a lack of public transportation between these inner areas.

My ideas:
1. CBD fills up with midrise commercial and residential, wiping out fugly industrial remants. One or two 'biggies' centrally for effect.
2. outer parkland fringe bulked up with midrise commercial and residential, exploiting views over parklands and toward CBD.
3. Commercial hubs developed in Glenelg, Port Adelaide (+others?)
:)

I'd add Elizabeth (NOT Mawson Lakes) and Noarlunga.

I support the development planned for Richmond Road. The current site looks like a war-torn industrial wasteland, it is an eye-sore. Whilst I prefer the idea of having more buildings in the CBD, this site is so ugly that urgent action is required.

Today's Advertiser has an article on a proposed major apartment development for the Adelaide Masonic Centre on Nth Tce. The development would be at the back of the Centre above the 'Great Hall', but there are no details (highrise?) Whatever they do they had better do it well because it's one of my faves

http://www.touradelaide.com/images/adel_freemasons2_640.jpg

Adelarch, can you scan the article?

(or just give the name of the article, so I can get it from newstext)

hope you can read it

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/p39cd8d94252459996a52d7826d347f62/f6e3a6a8.jpg

...bloody freemasons!

Thanks for that Adelarch.

I think any sort of "major" apartment complex would have to be higher than the 6 levels, because there'd be a fair amount of interest in apartments with north facing views, where the true money is to be made. A simple glass structure rising from the building could work well - offering a bit of contrast between the old and the new.

Some examples of buildings built over the top of restored old buildings. A lot of these buildings don't have a lot of glass on them:

Santos House:
http://www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide/2003-01-10/picture011_std.jpg

Westin Sydney (GPO):
http://www.1-atm.com/hotels/Foto/TheWestinSydney_H.jpg
http://www.fifagrouptiles.com.au/images/gpo4.gif

The Peninsula Hotel, Hong Kong (built over the old hotel):
http://media.monster.com/xpeninsulahkx/peninsula_hongkong.jpg
http://www.howtospendmoney.com/Pics/Pennoutside.jpg

On the subject of North Terrace, anyone know why the site on the eastern cnr of Frome Rd hasn't been redeveloped as yet? It's surely got to be one of the last prime development sites remaining along North Terrace, or in the East End for that matter, but it's still got a fugly dugly old 2 storey office building with billboards on it?? Must be some legal issue or something - no doubt it's only a matter of time

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid140/p0fe1fa9337b62ea27677f024850cd1c4/f6e1f684.jpg

I wouldn't mind if that whole area was cleared, and left as a large public garden - it would go well right next to Ayres House, and would provide Uni SA with some much needed open space (my campus is a concrete jungle :().

Yob, How lazy are you? You're a two and a half minute walk from the botanical gardens/botanic park ;)

Yob, How lazy are you? You're a two and a half minute walk from the botanical gardens/botanic park ;)

The botanic gardens are a different style of park. They're for making serious love.

More parks... more!

the 9st DAKOTA tower doesnt look too bad!
36 units- 61-69 Wyatt Street
selling from 199,000. how is it going? above ground yet?

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4626/101204626mm1070082466.jpg

the 9st DAKOTA tower doesnt look too bad!
36 units- 61-69 Wyatt Street
selling from 199,000. how is it going? above ground yet?

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4626/101204626mm1070082466.jpg

Still a way off mate. Haven't poured the slab yet, but works are continuing.

Hasn't started yet. Some buildings still need to be demolished before this commences construction.

Hasn't started yet. Some buildings still need to be demolished before this commences construction.

I thought they were going to build Dakota before the properties fronting Flinders Street were demolished or are there buildings on Wyatt street that need to go too?

I thought they were going to build Dakota before the properties fronting Flinders Street were demolished or are there buildings on Wyatt street that need to go too?

Yes the small 2 level building occupying the site where Dakota will go on Wyatt Street has still not been demolished.

Anyone else been noticing all the new coastal development happening outside the Adelaide metro area. Looks like the bar is being lifted a little - more medium density and even some half decent design.
I quite like some of these:

Victor Harbor
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9996/101399996ml1079082628.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9541/101659541ml1090208616.jpg

Hindmarsh Island
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4140/101664140al1088130074.jpg

Lady Bay
(bring on the Caribbean :D)
http://www.southshores.com.au/site/index.php
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid141/p75abea498f25599cb335ba7bda55648c/f6cc66cb.jpg

2500 jobs in campus-style business plan
By Real Estate Editor LOUISE TRECASSI
07oct04
PLANS have been released for a $100 million campus-style business park in the western suburbs which could create up to 2500 jobs.

The development, known as Adelaide Corporate Park, would be Adelaide's first campus-style business park.

It would be built on a 7ha site at 1 Richmond Rd, Keswick – the former headquarters of the Australian National Railways.

The development would contain four to five low-rise buildings with a minimum 5-star rating under the Green Building Council of Australia's Green star rating scheme.

When complete, up to 2500 people are expected to work on site.

The buildings would be in a parklands environment with shaded lawns, shrubs and trees intertwined with water features and outdoor meeting areas.

The project is proposed by Adelaide company, the Advan Group.

Development manager Andrew McIntyre, of McIntyre Robertson Scarborough, said Adelaide Corporate Park would offer a new style of business accommodation for SA.

He said there was a demand for near-city, campus-style accommodation with modern low-rise buildings in a park-like environment. "These sort of office parks are prevalent interstate and overseas," he said. "The Adelaide CBD does not offer sites of sufficient size to develop such a complex and businesses seeking this style of accommodation are faced with the choice of either moving to outer locations such as Mawson Lakes or setting up interstate, where such complexes are commonplace.

"As a result, Adelaide is potentially missing out on new business opportunities seeking this style of accommodation. This development will fill that gap in choice for the Adelaide market."

Mr McIntyre said the site was only minutes from the CBD and Adelaide Airport.

A Plan Amendment Report to rezone the site from industrial to commercial use is before West Torrens Council.

Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon said the proposed corporate park fits well with the State Government's economic goals.

"Adelaide Corporate Park will inject major investment capital into the state's economy and provide vital new infrastructure for the business community," he said.

The old Gouger Rugs place on Grenfell Street is being demolished now to make way for... Domain I think.

The old Gouger Rugs place on Grenfell Street is being demolished now to make way for... Domain I think.

Spot on mate.

Here it is:

http://www.hines.com.au/domain/images/3dfront.jpg

There's going to be an 8 storey mixed use residential/commercial building on Gouger Street, don't think it's been mentioned yet.

The one planned opposite Sir Samuel Way Building, or the one further down towards Market Street? :?

The little 2 storey jobbie is now being demolished for Dakota. Saw it this morning.

This is a bit old but anyway...
http://www.bh.com.au/images/news/63Pullout.jpg

The one planned opposite Sir Samuel Way Building, or the one further down towards Market Street? :?

Please explain AG? :)

Are there going to be 2, mid-rise buildings on Gouger Street? :)

Please explain AG? :)

Are there going to be 2, mid-rise buildings on Gouger Street? :)
I may be getting mixed up here so someone may have to confirm this.

The one that I was thinking of seems to be a 6 level office building located on Market Street just off Gouger Street. So it seems quite possible that there may be three buildings of about this size going up within a block of each other.

I'm trying to find the adress of the 8 storey gouger st building.

In the meantime:

372-400 King William St

1x 6 storey office
1x 6 storey serviced apartments
1x 6 storey apartments
1x 8 level car park

There's a new 7 level apartment proposal for 135-137 South Tce on the ACC's website.

Looks pretty good:

> Link (http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/devapp/getatt.asp?attID=497)

Nice find mate - looks good :)

the plans also indicate an approved 5 storey apartment block two doors over

I vaguely remember that the brief for this competition referred to some mid-rise of atleast 4-5 storeys as well - looking forward to seeing the winning entry


Judging Completed for National Eco Housing Competition
ACC Media Release
25 October 2004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

A national architectural design competition to demonstrate principles of green building design and affordable housing has prompted an overwhelming response by architects across the country.

The competition, initiated by the Adelaide City Council, with the support of the State Government of South Australia through the Capital City Committee and Green City Program, was open to corporate members of the Royal Australian Institute of Architects (RAIA).

A jury, chaired by the 2004 RAIA Gold Medallist, Mr Gregory Burgess, assessed all 45 entries in September 2004.

“We were all impressed by the overwhelming competition response, both in terms of quantity and quality,” Mr Burgess said.

"The competition represented a significant design challenge; the most fundamental being that of achieving housing affordability and a high level of environmental performance at the same time.

"Many of the schemes were socially innovative in producing design solutions which were inclusive and encouraged community interaction.

The competition yielded a wealth of ideas for active and passive environmental solutions,” he said.

The competition outcome will be used as the basis for the development of affordable housing in Whitmore Square in the South West precinct of the City. The Adelaide City Council intends to engage the successful architect to carry out construction of the winning design.

The Lord Mayor, Mr Michael Harbison, said that providing access to affordable housing is a key driver of sustainable population growth in capital cities.

“Through this competition we will see 30 dwellings – each with two bedrooms – built in the heart of the City which will become templates for affordable and "green", housing development,” he said.

The winning design will be announced at a reception at the Adelaide Town Hall on Wednesday 27 October at 6pm.

The public are invited to view the competition entries in the Queen Adelaide Room, Adelaide Town Hall from 9am on Wednesday 27 December until 5pm Friday 29 October 2004.

do you guys know of this 8storey office bldg about to start in CBD?

the article was on page 66 Thusday28 fin rev.

CREDIT UNION TO ANCHOR HIGH-TECH TOWER

Australian Central Credit Union will be anchor tennant the 29$mil office bldg with 8000sqm.
To be developed by Tritan Corp at 60 Light square.The 8storey tower will be very high-tech and green friendly!
hey 8x4m =32m + plantroom? potential 35m scraper? to add to ss.com?
do you guys know of this one?

do you guys know of this 8storey office bldg about to start in CBD?

the article was on page 66 Thusday28 fin rev.

CREDIT UNION TO ANCHOR HIGH-TECH TOWER

Australian Central Credit Union will be anchor tennant the 29$mil office bldg with 8000sqm.
To be developed by Tritan Corp at 60 Light square.The 8storey tower will be very high-tech and green friendly!
hey 8x4m =32m + plantroom? potential 35m scraper? to add to ss.com?
do you guys know of this one?

Yeah, works are underway mate, so it's one to add to ss.com if you like.

I'll try and get around to scanning on a pic of that and any other renders I've got that no-one's put up yet in the next week or so.

Cheers.

good!. hey who are architects? i can contact for exact height.

good!. hey who are architects? i can contact for exact height.

Woodhead International mate.

Seem to be having problems with photobucket. I'll have a scan up once I've got them sorted.

Cheers.

if 8 storeys can qualify as scraper then there are two other proposed office developments due to start soon which might just qualify as well (but I don't have up to date details):

Flinders link offices
http://www.ptbuilding.com.au/images/developments/flinderslink01.jpg

Minter Ellison building
http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/creche.jpg

Results of eco-housing competition are out - dodgy low res image of winning entry:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid144/p467921bb960067b682d0231c65cb6305/f6775549.jpg

Nice addition to Whitmore Square IMO

More details at: http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/ecohousing/ (http://)

Woodhead International mate.

Seem to be having problems with photobucket. I'll have a scan up once I've got them sorted.

Cheers.
i contacted Woodhead int and got height details.
height to roof-27m
height to plantroom-30m
so just misses out .

not sure of the others (link offices ect)

Results of eco-housing competition are out - dodgy low res image of winning entry:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid144/p467921bb960067b682d0231c65cb6305/f6775549.jpg

Nice addition to Whitmore Square IMO

More details at: http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/ecohousing/ (http://)

Having seen the other place getters, it seems like they've gone for the safe and boring option design wise. Not sure whether their sole brief was to choose the most environmentally viable, but design wise, I think the winner's shocking.

i contacted Woodhead int and got height details.
height to roof-27m
height to plantroom-30m
so just misses out .

not sure of the others (link offices ect)

If you want to check with the respective architects Cul, Flinders Link was designed by Hassell and the Minter Ellison building by Materne Pennino Hoare.

Cheers.

Having seen the other place getters, it seems like they've gone for the safe and boring option design wise. Not sure whether their sole brief was to choose the most environmentally viable, but design wise, I think the winner's shocking.

I know where you're coming from mate, and perhaps also we've got slightly different tastes, but it's possible that part of it comes down to the crappiness of this low res render - some of the other graphics on their boards show some reasonably sophisticated detailing IMO. It is true that it doesn't appear to be especially avant garde from an aesthetic perspective, but frankly, as affordable housing it was never going to be the Guggenheim and arguably shouldn't be in this location anyway :)

I know where you're coming from mate, and perhaps also we've got slightly different tastes, but it's possible that part of it comes down to the crappiness of this low res render - some of the other graphics on their boards show some reasonably sophisticated detailing IMO. It is true that it doesn't appear to be especially avant garde from an aesthetic perspective, but frankly, as affordable housing it was never going to be the Guggenheim and arguably shouldn't be in this location anyway :)

I really liked the second place getter's submission mate. It was bold and would have given the area a lift, but yeah, we can maybe put it down to different taste.

I also take your point that affordable housing rarely, if ever, has much substance to its design, but I'm assuming that if my preferred option got as far as second, it couldn't have been too over-the-odds costs wise.

Either way, something for that site's better than nothing.

Cheers.

The basement for the light square tower is nearly complete, with areas for the core and I guess crane marked out.
Also the demolition work for the flinders link project is complete. Expect the cranes up soon.

Cul: would the 10 storey Flinders Link jobbie be tall enough for SS.com?

Cul: would the 10 storey Flinders Link jobbie be tall enough for SS.com?

might just miss out if the link below is anything to go by - looks like the building height will be 34.3m (unless they're using a different definition of building height to ss.com)

http://www.planning.sa.gov.au/dac/agendas/2004/29_july_04/10.3.pdf

nice shot of Bent apts off the web:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2119/102012119ml1099888967.jpg

Dunno if i've mentioned this one:

Approved: 413-427 King William Street, $6 million resi development, 8 levels - basement car parking, ground floor retail. 90 apartments, so it's a fair chunk of building. Not sure where abouts this one is, maybe the empty patch across from the crown and sceptre?

King Willy seems to have a wall of midrise starting to form. In a proposed sense :p

Sounds good. It's not the approved 8 level jobbie next to the Optus bldg is it?

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_60/300/CBRE_60_26563_16005.jpg

I reckon it is actually. That's what I thought it was at first, but i put the street number into whereis and it showed a location way down closer to victoria square.

More population density is definitely needed down that way, the Optus building is just in a stupid location all by itself.


I wonder if a bunch of resi's down there would make for an improvement in tram patronage. The line would have to be extended to the CBD, mall and uni to make the trip worth paying for.

Sounds good. It's not the approved 8 level jobbie next to the Optus bldg is it?

http://www.propertylook.com.au/listings/CBRE/CBRE_60/300/CBRE_60_26563_16005.jpg

Thought it was that one too.

Very little movement down there and they've taken the board for the complex down, so I'm not confident it'll happen.

In fact, from memory, I think they might even be selling the land off as small allotments.

The apartment project at the far southern end of King William Street has officially been CANCELLED. This is due to the contradicting height restrictions that currently exist. The new lifted restriction allows buildings up to 9 floors in height when it is introduced soon while the existing one only allows buildings up to 7 floors, and possibly even less. The replacement is numerous apartments in a three level building.

/me - well over the ACC

Typical with the ACC rather than allow a quality building
which isnt really that high and in most states would
even get a mention with crappy low 3 storey higgldy
piggldy developments like those appartments behind the
central market and those new 3 story student appartments
further up grote street...

This is just poor town design and poor planning. In
most cities around the world our ACC planning approval
department would be taken out beaten and fired.
But as with previous ACC members their all NIMBY's
which live in the past and are not future driven.
They dont care about the job prospect of ordinary
South Aussies or whether the city Grows or has
Tourist Appeal. They are all well off and live in the
Eastern Suburbs....

Premier Rann would do South Aussies a favour if he sacked the Adelaide City Council and forced more amalgamations. Adelaide City could extend from Mitcham and Unley to West Torrens. The extra revenue from ratepayers would facilitate many projects that are sorely needed. It could also incorporate Prospect and Walkerville Councils.

I find rampant generalised anti-nimbyism to be every bit as bad as nimbyism.

I have to stick up for the ACC just this one time.

These aprtments were approved at 7 levels, so it's not the case of their being overlooked by the ACC for a 3 level alternative.

If, as AG says, the development under the new restrictions could be up to 9 levels, the developer could re-apply for an amendment to the approval if they wanted to.

Either way, why would they go down to 3 levels if they had approval for 7 but wanted 9? I'd say that the move to a 3 level replacement and selling off other portions of the site as allotments has more to do with poor demand and lack of funds than the ACC.

That is probably the reason Pants it doesnt however
let the ACC off the hook so to speak. The developer
if they dont have the funds should not be allowed to
trash our cityscape with 3 level higgldy piggldy
sub-division townhouses etc. If they cant build something
decent they should be forced to sell to someone that
can...

A 9 level building would be better suited right next
door to the Optus building than would 3 storey
buildings and townhouses.

The ACC should spend more time ensuring developments
are adequate, worthy, future driven, exciting, well
planned quality developments rather than wasting
too much time on height controls. Unless they want
a shanty town appearance for the city of Adelaide.

That is probably the reason Pants it doesnt however
let the ACC off the hook so to speak. The developer
if they dont have the funds should not be allowed to
trash our cityscape with 3 level higgldy piggldy
sub-division townhouses etc. If they cant build something
decent they should be forced to sell to someone that
can...

A 9 level building would be better suited right next
door to the Optus building than would 3 storey
buildings and townhouses.

The ACC should spend more time ensuring developments
are adequate, worthy, future driven, exciting, well
planned quality developments rather than wasting
too much time on height controls. Unless they want
a shanty town appearance for the city of Adelaide.

Agree mate. I think underdevelopment's a big problem in this city.

I actually thought the ACC were in the process of looseining their stance on height limits though. Can only hope, I guess.

Agree mate. I think underdevelopment's a big problem in this city.

I actually thought the ACC were in the process of looseining their stance on height limits though. Can only hope, I guess.

They are, but the height limits in most parts of the city are only being increased by a couple of floors and several metres. There is also quite possibly going to be the introduction of more minimal restrictions that force developers to develop to at least a certain height.

'tiser building.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/adv22nov.jpg

The construction on the fourth floor of the Tiser Building has commenced. Also, it looks like the site next door is nearly ready to commence digging of the underground floors and foundations.

I have bad news - apparently the 7-level building for the empty site on Gouger Street has been cancelled. The tenant that was going to move in, the law firm Minster Ellison, has had second thoughts about relocating, and has decided against shifting to the new building.

This is a shame, as the planned building at 30m would have made a visual impact in that low-rise part of the CBD.

There goes another one to the already pathetically long list of cancelled low-rise and mid-rise projects. :| I was really hoping that this site would be used rather than continue to remain vacant.

Oh well, I hope that the nearbouring couple of planned mid-rise buildings behind Gouger Street go ahead and start soon.

Demolition is well underway for Admiral House on the corner of Pulteney and Pirie Streets.

I think I remember Admiral house being redesigned so that levels 8 and 9 were no longer set back. If so, it should be a fair chunk of a building.

I have bad news - apparently the 7-level building for the empty site on Gouger Street has been cancelled. The tenant that was going to move in, the law firm Minster Ellison, has had second thoughts about relocating, and has decided against shifting to the new building.

This is a shame, as the planned building at 30m would have made a visual impact in that low-rise part of the CBD.

Sad to hear that. I really liked that proposal.

I'm sure they'll just re-market it and hopefully get enough interest to make it viable again.

Who owns that empty site on Gouger Street atm? :?

The Kambitsis group mate.

Same people behind Flinders Link and the new office building on Light Square, as well as alot of the West End.

Well here's a bit of news, to me at least.

I always thought that stage 2 of the Vaughn Place redevelopment was to convert the old Imax into apartments. However, just having a read of the ACC's draft 2003/04 annual report, they describe stage 2 as a 5 storey redevelopment of the Palais Car Park. Yes, the bloody ugly 2 level car park fronting North Terrace, with stairwells that smell like piss.... because they're covered in piss!

From what I can gather, the plan also involves making a much wider path through to North Terrace (instead of that really squeezy sesh spot that's there now). Should be great.

Vote 1 - don't ditch the sesh spot....

but seriouly you know the exact spot i'm talking about don't you

I have bad news - apparently the 7-level building for the empty site on Gouger Street has been cancelled. The tenant that was going to move in, the law firm Minster Ellison, has had second thoughts about relocating, and has decided against shifting to the new building.

This is a shame, as the planned building at 30m would have made a visual impact in that low-rise part of the CBD.

Just to add to the pain, the Makris plans for the forever vacant Le Cornu site at Nth Adelaide have been shelved indefinately as the ACC have decided against extending their height reviews to Nth Adelaide, meaning that a 3 storey restriction will apply.

Lunacy.

Although there is hope that specific exceptions can be made.

Lunacy.

You're right, it is lunacy. There's a plethora of sites, all around adelaide, where these sorts of developments are all complying. Yet developers, time after time, choose to propose them in areas which aren't allowed by the development plan.

Developers must be fucking idiots.

Oh shit wait, this is Ozscrapers. Boo Adelaide City Council. Boo. :sleepy:

I wonder how many of these sites are land that's aquirable.

You're right, it is lunacy. There's a plethora of sites, all around adelaide, where these sorts of developments are all complying. Yet developers, time after time, choose to propose them in areas which aren't allowed by the development plan.

Developers must be fucking idiots.

Oh shit wait, this is Ozscrapers. Boo Adelaide City Council. Boo. :sleepy:

Should have made myself a bit clearer. I'm far from a mindless council basher mate. I actually think that this lot could make a positive difference to the city.

I completely agree that Nth Adelaide should for the most part remain a low level development zone. It is primarily a residential area with a lot of heritage and historical significance.

What would be "lunacy" IMO, is restricting development on the LeCornu site (or perhaps O'Connell St generally) to 3 levels, especially with Hotel Adelaide and whatever old residential towers there are around there.

The LeCornu site has been vacant for what, about 2 decades? It needs a landmark and whilst there needs to be a fair amount of discretion exercised in that area, a 3 storey limit is too restrictive. The developer in this instance has had previous indications from council that their favourable height reviews would include Nth Adelaide and accordingly, had plans for a 30m complex drawn up - in consultation with the necessary people.

But either way, as I said, there is scope for an exception to be made for that site and I'm sure that will end up being the case.

bit dissappointed about the Creche site jobbie being shelved if it's true - the renders looked pretty nice. On the other hand I thought the building should have been a fair bit taller to complement the scale of the other buildings around Vic square - commonwealth Law courts, hilton, proposed tram barn site etc. Maybe the next time around they'll be able to get approval for a taller development (...famous last words)

There's a note in this week's ACM about a potential re-development of the Hotel Adelaide on O'Connell Street.

Best site in the city IMO, and by all accounts any redevelopment will be something special.

There's a note in this week's ACM about a potential re-development of the Hotel Adelaide on O'Connell Street.

Best site in the city IMO, and by all accounts any redevelopment will be something special.


I agree!

BTW, does anyone know anything about the work that's going on at 188 Morphett Street (just opposite Balfours)? It appears they've started to gut the building and some sort of extension is build put on the back of it. Maybe only a small project but with all the things planned for that area, who knows.

anyone heard of 'Fuj apartments'? - proposed 7 level development in Moger Lane

http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=406

cool name if nothing else

anyone heard of 'Fuj apartments'? - proposed 7 level development in Moger Lane

http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=406

cool name if nothing else

Never heard of it.

Where's Moger Lane? Is it the old IMAX site? There was a 6 or 7 level apartment complex mooted for that site a while ago.

Moger Lane is off pirie street, one street down from Frome.

view from Bent St apt - Alpha is looking great there in the background, must be complete by now?

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9335/102109335ml1103674333.jpg

adelaide is sooo flat and dull, id hate to wake up every morning to that view. we need a city transform (i know itll cost trillions) to make every thing modern and glass like with tallies appearing, the id call that a view. but for now IMO im not satisfied :(

we need a city transform (i know itll cost trillions) to make every thing modern and glass like with tallies appearing, the id call that a view. but for now IMO im not satisfied :(

It'd cost more than just trillions of dollars to do it so quickly...

Adelaide Uni Village development in Grote St:
stage 1 is construction of 4 storey townhouses - currently u/c
stage 2 will be the 6 level apartment block (looks OK :))

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/accommodation/images/image_front.jpg

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/vtour/image_village02.jpg http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/vtour/image_village04.jpg http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/vtour/image_villageindex.jpg


Some construction pics:

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/dec-8-01.jpg http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/dec-8-02.jpg http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/images/dec-8-03.jpg


More info:

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/thevillage/

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news1341.html

The Admiral house site is totally clear and Piling work is underway.

The Admiral house site is totally clear and Piling work is underway.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is "piling work"?

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is "piling work"?

Works on the foundation for the building.

Thanks. Thought it might have something to do with those "drilling" trucks that are currently on site.

Some of this stuff beginning to appear outside the city at Mawson Lakes soon. A lot of townhouse and apartment buildings varying from 2 to 5 levels mainly around Main Street:

http://www.mawsonlakes.com.au/llweb/mawsonlakes/main.nsf/all/fs_commercial
http://www.mawsonlakes.com.au/llweb/mawsonlakes/main.nsf/all/fs_apartments

I have bad news - apparently the 7-level building for the empty site on Gouger Street has been cancelled. The tenant that was going to move in, the law firm Minster Ellison, has had second thoughts about relocating, and has decided against shifting to the new building.

This is a shame, as the planned building at 30m would have made a visual impact in that low-rise part of the CBD.

have you got inside knowledge on this one mate? According to recent documents its still a goer
eg http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=404
www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Australia/English/Market_Report/PDFs/AdelaideCBDOct04.pdf

the latter has some interesting info on the Adelaide office market in general


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid151/p04ec5406fe058f7a3822959da94b591c/f5bd5289.jpg

have you got inside knowledge on this one mate? According to recent documents its still a goer
eg http://www.capcity.adelaide.sa.gov.au/projects/projects_details.asp?ID=404
www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Markets/Australia/English/Market_Report/PDFs/AdelaideCBDOct04.pdf

the latter has some interesting info on the Adelaide office market in general


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid151/p04ec5406fe058f7a3822959da94b591c/f5bd5289.jpg


I hope you're right, but I read an article in the Advertiser, where it basically stated that this project had been shelved.

I agree. I hope this project does continue - the building looks quite nice with all that glass.

A DA has been lodged for another 6 level apartment building on Sth Terrace:

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/devapp/getatt.asp?attID=571

Very nice, doesn't look too bad that one.

I'm not sure where to put this question but I was wondering if someone can list the tallest buildings in Adelaide including height/number of floors?

I'm not sure where to put this question but I was wondering if someone can list the tallest buildings in Adelaide including height/number of floors?

Top 20 off of emporis.com (includes proposed and under construction):

Building Name Height Floors Year
1. Santos House 135 m 31 1988
2. Telstra House 104 m 24 1987
3. Grenfell Centre 103 m 24 1973
4. SA Water House 91 m 22 1991
5. Hyatt Regency Hotel 87 m 24 1989
6. City Central (Apartments) [City Central] 85 m 2006
7. 16-20 Bentham Street [City Central] 85 m 26 2006
8. 11-29 Waymouth Street [City Central] 84 m 21 2006
9. City Central (Hotel Tower) [City Central] 80 m 25
10. City Central (Office Tower) [City Central] 80 m 20
11. Hooker House 75 m 19 1969
12. AMP Building 75 m 19 1967
13. ANZ Building 75 m 18 1977
14. The Pinnacle 74 m 21 2005
15. 100 King William Street 72 m 16 1983
16. KPMG House 72 m 18 1988
17. Stamford Plaza Adelaide 70 m 19 1978
18. Wakefield House 70 m 19 1976
19. Adelaide Tower 70 m 19 1975
20. Rendeszvous Allegra Hotel 69 m 19 2002

A DA has been lodged for another 6 level apartment building on Sth Terrace:

http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/devapp/getatt.asp?attID=571


The link's dead on me :(

*edit* not anymore!

Right next door to the 7 level resi you posted a while ago Pants. Looks alright for what it is - can't do much with balconies.

Thanks for the list Pants. That emporis.com is a wicked site! Do you know how high the Commonwealth Law Courts and 223 North Tce are?

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=100507&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/sk/li/?id=100507&bt=2&ht=2&sro=1

that's a great link.. i never knew the two tallest towers were built in the 80s. thanks for that.

Right next door to the 7 level resi you posted a while ago Pants.

Thanks for that mate. I was just about to do some digging to see whether it was a re-application for that spot.

From memory, there's one or two more like it to come on Sth Tce, so it should be a nice patch of the city in a couple of years.

Thanks for the list Pants. That emporis.com is a wicked site! Do you know how high the Commonwealth Law Courts and 223 North Tce are?

Best scraper database on the net mate.

The heights you're after are 48 and 45m respectively.

Follow yob's link and you'll find the full list.

Cheers.

looks like a pretty average design, but it will help to bulk up this end of town

Wow! Only 48m for the Law Courts - I thought it was more than that. It still surprises me that you can see the law courts some distance away down on Sir Donald Bradman Drive. I suppose its because Adelaide is generally flat.

I just noticed on emporis.com that there's an approval for development at City Cross with 16 floors to be completed 2007. That can't possibly be the current renovation of City Cross Arcade can it? I thought the plans were simply to add another level on top, well short of the 65m height that emporis states. Wussup on this one!?

I just noticed on emporis.com that there's an approval for development at City Cross with 16 floors to be completed 2007. That can't possibly be the current renovation of City Cross Arcade can it? I thought the plans were simply to add another level on top, well short of the 65m height that emporis states. Wussup on this one!?

Multi stage development. There was supposed to be a mall, harvey norman store, car park, then a 10 level commercial building on top. There were also plans for a hotel above the offices, but the business partner pulled out of the venture.

Multi stage development. There was supposed to be a mall, harvey norman store, car park, then a 10 level commercial building on top. There were also plans for a hotel above the offices, but the business partner pulled out of the venture.

What's left of it mate?

^^ That's an interesting question actually. Council did approve the building with the office tower, bringing it up to 16 levels in total. However a mate of mine is an engineer on site, and he tells me that no foundations have been poured to take a building anywhere near that height.

I get the feeling the office tower was scrapped.

There is an article in today's Advertiser that makes mention of a conversion of the old AMP Building on King William Street into residential accomodation for university students.

The one on the corner of NT and King Willy?!

Yup. It's 1 King William Street, Adelaide I think.

Just read the article - 23 king william street. 9 level building.

I've got no idea.

No, it's the little very VERY old (1930s) 9 level Old AMP Building next door to the current AMP/Origin Building on King William Street.

With much thanks to Tayser for taking this pic:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/galleries/galleries/Adelaide%20in%20November/adl17.jpg

That's the one, next to the chicago school style AMP building. Some absolutely lucky bastards whoever gets to live in it, what a superb building.

Mediation over $12m West Lakes project
By Civic Reporter ANDREW HOUGH
19jan05
MEDIATION talks between Charles Sturt Council and the developers behind a controversial $12 million project planned for West Lakes will be held next week.

The two parties have been in dispute over a six-storey, 51-apartment and entertainment complex which has angered nearby residents.

The development, proposed for 155 Brebner Drive opposite West Lakes Shopping Centre, has sparked concern it would turn the area into the next "Glenelg".

The 24.8m high development is proposed as 51 apartments, gym, pool, 168 car parks and an 81-seat al fresco restaurant.

An application lodged by developers D'Andrea and Associates was rejected by the council late last year despite planning staff recommending it be approved. The developers immediately lodged an appeal to the Environment and Resources Court. The matter is due to go to mediation on Tuesday.

The council is reviewing planning requirements for the area.

Charles Sturt Mayor Harold Anderson and the builder, Sam Sgherza, refused to comment yesterday.

Resident spokesman Peter Brian could not be contacted, however residents on the opposite side of the lake in Martin Court are reportedly concerned the development would create a lack of privacy and increased traffic problems.

"I am a member of the panel (Development Assessment Panel) and while the matter is before the court, I can't say anything about it," Mr Anderson said.

The council said the development did not fit the desired future character of the area, its size was not consistent with existing buildings' scales and it would cause traffic problems. A staff report said the project appeared to "complement" the area's landscape.

"There is little doubt the building will be much larger than the immediate adjoining developments," it says.

"But (it) is considered to complement this built form.

"To this end the built form does not result in any adverse amenity impacts on adjoining properties."
_________________________________________________________________

If the height of this building is "inconsistent", one wonders why the development of the neighbouring West Lakes Hotel was approved years ago. The "Glenelg" example is a bit of an exaggeration that always seems to be used by the 'Tiser. There is a rendering of it in today's paper.

Why is that so many of these people are scared of the the "Glenelg" look? I would love it if my area became like Glenelg. It should be a priority for this city to build upwards not outwards.

I'm a west lakes resident, and i'd love for this to go ahead. The "local" residents are full of shit, there are no local residents to the project, brebner drive is one side car park, one side retail/hotel. Just a bunch of whiners who wish they had a cause.

Crane base on Grenfell Street.

The west lakes apartment complex looks sensational IMO.

piccie (sorry for quality of the image, don't have a scanner....)

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/wla.jpg

Crane base on Grenfell Street.

For Domain, yeah?

Yeah. Sorry. This will be the 4th crane in Adelaide.

Yeah. Sorry. This will be the 4th crane in Adelaide.

Flinders Link, City Central One (2 cranes), Admiral House and Light Square should all be up fairly soon too.

It's like to 80s all over again.

Talking about Admiral House, I walk past it almost everyday and it's looking like it's moving along very well. I didn't know it was going to be as 9 floors including ground! Found this info on it:

http://www.majorprojects.sa.gov.au/public/content/project_profile.asp?xcid=781&f_category_id=50&f_project_title=Admiral%20House%20Office%20Block,%20Adelaide

Sweet! :)

$100m touch with a seven-star dazzle
By Civic Reporter ANDREW HOUGH
21jan05
PROPERTY tycoon Con Makris will today unveil a $100 million luxury complex intended to transform one of the city's biggest eyesores.

The former Le Cornu site at 88 O'Connell Street, North Adelaide, would be developed over two years under the Makris Group's ambitious plans.

The plans, released exclusively to The Advertiser yesterday, include a seven-star luxury hotel, upmarket retail shops, apartments, cinemas, restaurants and a three-level, 1100-space car park below ground level.

Glass corridors would connect the hotel to the shopping centre.

The $100 million blueprint has taken several years to develop. The site, empty since 1991, has long been considered one of Adelaide's most blighted locations.









Makris Group chairman and chief executive officer Con Makris said he wanted "all the big names" to move into the centre, including fashion labels Versace, Prada, Louis Vuitton and Dolce and Gabbana.

"This is a dream, and I think it is a dream for the whole of Adelaide, not just me," he said.

"In 40 years in this business, I have not seen anything like it. This is beyond imagination, it is like a big dream." Existing shops including Cafe Paesano would be demolished.

He said the seven-storey development would be set back from the road to maintain the area's streetscape.

The plans will be lodged with Adelaide City Council when the council's planning amendment report for North Adelaide is complete.

The project would eventually be referred to the council's Development Assessment Panel for consideration. Construction would start as soon as possible after approval.

Mr Makris said the plans complied with the area's proposed planning changes.

The millionaire developer said there had been detailed consultation, including discussions with planners, urban designers, residents, local traders and other nearby businesses.

He said the design was inspired by ideas drawn from Paris, Rome and Dubai.

"We have spent a lot of effort and a lot of money on this," Mr Makris said.

"The time has come, something has to happen there, the whole of Adelaide is expecting something to happen there and I think this is the solution. We can't leave it like that, it is costing the company a lot of money to keep it like this."

The site has been the centre of several failed development attempts over the past 15 years, including a $40 million shopping centre and a $22 million retail building.
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This one looks very much like the base of Chevron Rennaissance. I can only think of one other seven star hotel anywhere else in the world, though there are probably more.

A seven star hotel in Adelaide!!!!!!!

I sincerley hope this one is approved and built, but the ACC and local residents might conclude that this project is too exotic or adventurous for Adelaide.

Domain Crane is up

132-137 South Tce - 7 level apartments - received DAP approval last night.

I'm trying to get a scan up but having problems. I'll see how I go.

8 storey office block in Light Square is just starting up...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/pd082ce744cdf26ae26ae2203045abdce/f55796cd.jpg

desperately waiting for the glass cladding to start going on the Advertiser building...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid155/pf428593d20662f3ac6540bf6d4b7a0ce/f55796c3.jpg

new one for Ifould St - quite nice and modern :)

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0303/102170303ml1107733899.jpg

For those of you wondering, Ifould Street is the one behind Christian Brothers College, running parallel to Wakefield Street.

For those of you wondering, Ifould Street is the one behind Christian Brothers College, running parallel to Wakefield Street.

Thanks mate, i wasn't sure where it was...

South Terrace Appartment that Pants mentioned received
DAP approval has been shown in this weeks issue of the
City Messanger... Looks Good, Sorry dont have a scanner.

South Terrace Appartment that Pants mentioned received
DAP approval has been shown in this weeks issue of the
City Messanger... Looks Good, Sorry dont have a scanner.

I'm onto it mate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/SouthTce.jpg

Anyone read that article in the messenger (page 36)?

The city DAP approved the 24m high development, which exceeded the 21m City of Adelaide height limit, despite strong objections from nearby residents.

Neighbour David Roberts said the development was "out of keeping" with its neighbouring heritage buildings.

"They recognise it'll be out of context, they talk about other buildings catching up to it, which I think is a bit terrifying," he said.

terrifying?? this is adelaide CBD for crying out loud. Perhaps he should move to the 'burbs if he doesn't like it.

I agree Howie, its ludicrous
Anyway this development should set a good precedent - the first building to break a height restriction makes it harder for nimbys to argue down future non-complying developments :)

BTW, this development looks quite nice :okay:

further note to Pants: mate, your own posts keep destroying your argument that new development in Adelaide is overwhelmingly average

:poke:

only kidding :D

further note to Pants: mate, your own posts keep destroying your argument that new development in Adelaide is overwhelmingly average

:poke:

only kidding :D

:D

Clearly developers are reading my posts and lifting their game.

You can all thank me later. :tongue3:

For those of you wondering, Ifould Street is the one behind Christian Brothers College, running parallel to Wakefield Street.

Do you go to CBC?

No I don't. I just pass this street on a regular basis whenever I'm in the city.

Admiral House office building, currently U/C on the cnr of Pirie/Pulteney Sts

looks quite classy (in spite of the dodgy render)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p8d444ecbfb8bef9339e1ab4a84aee02b/f4ebc051.jpg

Admiral House office building, currently U/C on the cnr of Pirie/Pulteney Sts

looks quite classy (in spite of the dodgy render)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid160/p8d444ecbfb8bef9339e1ab4a84aee02b/f4ebc051.jpg

Thanks for the picutre, it appears Admiralty House has been re-designed (again). Whilst it looks better, it appears shorter, I think they've deleted the 9th floor.

relevant here, although equally relevant to taller developments

Demand strong for the city's high life
By JILL PENGELLEY
10mar05
A SHORTAGE of city rental housing has eased slightly with the release of 46 apartments yesterday but developers are being encouraged to continue to build up.

In the 12 months to this January, rental vacancies in the city rose from 1.5 per cent to 2.35 per cent, with the average weekly rent now $292.

Real Estate Institute of South Australia president Robin Turner said inner-city living would become increasingly popular, particularly in the quality-apartment market.

"There certainly is a lot of activity in that respect," he said.

"The North Terrace precinct is probably the centre of most of the activity."

That follows the launch of the Alpha Apartments complex yesterday, which added 46 more apartments to the city.

From one bedroom, to four bedrooms and three bathrooms, the apartments sell for between $275,000 and $1.4 million.

About 60 per cent sold off the plan, before construction began.

"There is not an oversupply of premium apartments," Mr Turner said. "The high-end stuff is very popular and sells well.

"Adelaide is very traditional and it takes a while for new ideas to sink in but there is definitely a trend (to apartment living)."

He said increased development in the city would "put a bite on prices", once more properties became available.

Allenby Gardens couple Patricia and John Sayas paid more than $800,000 for one of the three-bedroom, two-bathroom apartments and had planned to rent it out.

"This is just fantastic," Mrs Sayas, 29, said yesterday.

"Initially we just thought of it as an investment but I'd rather give up the house.

"We can't maintain it anyway, with the garden so big."

Adelaide Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said residents of the Alpha Apartments would not be lacking gardens.

"The reality is that when they come to live in an apartment like this, they, with us, become citizens of 1000 acres of gardens," he said.

"It's a very stimulating way to live and lifestyle people increasingly are starting to enjoy."

Developer Theo Samaras said the Alpha Apartments were his first residential investment.

"It was scary but not any more," he said of his $26 million investment.

Mr Samaras said he also had decided to move into the city, reserving a penthouse apartment with rooftop garden for himself.

Funny, I thought Admiral had gone to a 10 level re-design? Anyhow, here's the site, anyone order a crane??

http://pic10.picturetrail.com:80/VOL343/2004633/3879099/88584721.jpg

Funny, I thought Admiral had gone to a 10 level re-design?
maybe it has? This rendering is not necessarily current - one earlier rendering I saw had two more smaller levels at the back
thanks for the pic

Thought I'd check out the Taplin website, as they've got a few things on the go at the moment:


Mitcham Shopping Centre

http://www.taplin.com.au/mitcham/images/Interior_Elevation.JPG

http://www.taplin.com.au/mitcham/images/Exterior_Elevation_B.jpg

http://www.taplin.com.au/mitcham/images/Exterior_Elevation_A.jpg



The Moorings Apartments - Glenelg North

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7274/102217274ml1108703222.jpg



Space Apartments - Glenelg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7923/102137923ml1105669949.jpg

nice find Pants.. the mitcham shopping centre looks pretty awesome.

nice find Pants.. the mitcham shopping centre looks pretty awesome.


It does mate. I'm looking forward to it, seeing as it's close to my part of town. It's always been a pretty small local shopping centre, but Taplin are spending $60m on it and putting in a 7 cinema complex too.

It does mate. I'm looking forward to it, seeing as it's close to my part of town. It's always been a pretty small local shopping centre, but Taplin are spending $60m on it and putting in a 7 cinema complex too.

Another cinema!? We must really love our cinemas. I'm really surprised by this cos I thought the cinemas were losing viewers to dvds and trying to attract more people though $5 Tuesdays. Adelaide must surely be saturated by now with all the megaplexes - bring on the theme park i say! :)

BTW, thanks for all the great pics you've posted lately.

The food court in City Cross is now half open. All the tables are in, but there's only one store actually open. Hardly Normals has been open for a while.

This was in today's Advertiser. Looks like quite a nice development - hopefully this will really transform Port Adelaide into something spectacular.

http://users.tpg.com.au/dnly00/images/DSC00844.jpg

The Moorings Apartments in Glenelg are now complete.

Here's a clear rendering of Urban Constructs latest "Place on Brougham" in North Adelaide
http://www.urbanconstruct.com.au/images/placeonbrougham.jpg

it's growing on me... thanks for the pic pikey ! :)

UniSA building facing Hindley Street:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/UniSA19-3-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/UniSA19-3-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/UniSA19-3-3.jpg

wow, that's a nice looking facade, very contemporary
thanks for the pics

looks brilliant imho.

Very nice! Is this located on the part of Hindley street between morphett and west terrace? I've never seen it. This is the sort of building we need more of and in bigger sizes too. **COME ON!**

Yep, about half way between Morphett St and West Tce. Architectually, one of the city's best IMO.

Here's a render (the back half looks almost done - they haven't started on the North Terrace side):

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/LouiseLaybourne.jpg

I posted more renders on page 2 of this thread.

Cheers.

I would agree its one of the best modern facades in the city - looks like it might be trumped by the north tce end of the building though

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/City-West-Nth-Tce-facade.jpg

oh yeah! The north terrace side looks even nicer. Kinda makes me think of federation square in melbourne for some reason. Maybe it's the angle of that render. I wonder why this one got approval because it certainly doesn't blend in with the surrounding buildings... maybe the nimbys were impressed too.

Well it would be sitting next to the bright blue and yellow UniSA buildings.

If my memory serves, that's going to be the new home for their Architecture department, no? Seems fitting. Much better than what they've stuck the one at Adel Uni in.

I would agree its one of the best modern facades in the city - looks like it might be trumped by the north tce end of the building though

http://www.unisa.edu.au/blueprint/images/CityWest/City-West-Nth-Tce-facade.jpg

Definately like the North Terrace facade better.

This and the Marion Cultural centre (designed by ARM) are two of my favourite buildings in this city:

http://www.floornature.com/worldaround/img_magazine/wr183_4_popup.jpg

http://www.floornature.com/worldaround/img_magazine/wr183_2_popup.jpg

yeah the Marion Cultural Centre is a very unique and intensively designed building. Not especially 'beautiful' IMO but v stimulating to look at nonetheless. I thought it was a Philips Pilkington job?
off-topic but ARM are doing some interesting stuff in Sydney ATM - proposed 'Dupain' offices
(squint)
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/03/11/maxdupain_gallery__550x398.jpg

ARM in conjunction with Phillips Pilkington mate, but you'd call it an ARM building.

I agree with you about it not being the most beautiful building, but definately the most interesting.

I love the Sydney proposal.

ARM's project history is amazing (>>click me (http://www.a-r-m.com.au/)). Some of it is way over the top, but most of it is really inspired stuff. The problem with ultra-modern architecture of their type is that is dates quickly, but still, I'd love for them to have more of a presence here.

Drive-by shot of Domain from today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/michaelchristhomas/Domain22.jpg

Tower crane's on its way up at Admiral.

New food court in City Cross:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20008_std.jpg

Flinders Link:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20046_std.jpg

Admiral:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20048_std.jpg

http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20050_std.jpg

Domain:
http://photoadelaide.com/JunkPile/23-03-2005/picture%20051_std.jpg

Great pics again mate.

Not trying to be a dick, but the second pic is of the Flinders Link office development for IAG (Wyatt St is the other street front for that block where Dakota Apartments will go up), the third group of pics is of Admiral, and the last pic is of Domain.

Cheers.

Cheers. Edited. I was guessing on memory.

No problem mate.

I noticed how much your pics crap on mine for clarity, do you just have an amazing camera (I'm using a Powershot G2 - old but still okay) or is my imaging software letting me down (I'm just using whatever's bundled with Office 2003)?

Like pikey said mate, you should get bored more often.

Cheers.

I'm using an Olympus C740 (which you can't buy anymore). Images resized using a program called Breeze Browser, which is for quickly making HTML galleries.

Thanks for letting me know mate.