These are some pics taken from flickr of Rome 2009...I hope you enjoy them :)

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Always wonderfull :)

Wow so beautiful. Thank you :)

You know, instead of letting all that great ancient Roman architecture rot in the middle of the city, why not build it back the same way the ancient Romans did? Make it look new again? I'd much rather go see something I can actually see, then imagine how it once looked. Eventually all those ruins are going to dissipate anyway, why not just make them more future proof and beautiful once again? The city would be much more interesting if the historic parts looked exactly like did in the Roman times. It's great architecture, it should be shown in all its glory, not in ruin. I find it strange how European countries don’t put nearly as much care into their historic architecture than other places around the world. You don’t see historic landmarks decaying like this in many other parts of the world.

It looks boring to me.

It looks boring to me.

I disagree...

FORZA BRASILE!!!!

You know, instead of letting all that great ancient Roman architecture rot in the middle of the city, why not build it back the same way the ancient Romans did? Make it look new again? I'd much rather go see something I can actually see, then imagine how it once looked. Eventually all those ruins are going to dissipate anyway, why not just make them more future proof and beautiful once again? The city would be much more interesting if the historic parts looked exactly like did in the Roman times. It's great architecture, it should be shown in all its glory, not in ruin. I find it strange how European countries don’t put nearly as much care into their historic architecture than other places around the world. You don’t see historic landmarks decaying like this in many other parts of the world.
LOL
You can find all-U-want in Las Vegas :lol:

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LOL
You can find all-U-want in Las Vegas :lol:

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Cool!!!

It looks boring to me.

I take it u have never actually been to Rome then huh? :dunno:

Everyone to their own I guess....but I think u would change your mind if u went there. :)

LOL
You can find all-U-want in Las Vegas :lol:

^^ So true. :lol::lol:

LOL
You can find all-U-want in Las Vegas :lol:

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Thanks, I'll have to visit there sometime. :lol:

the black Fiat 500 pic is so cute!

Rome is awsome! Nice pics! ;)

So nice!

Thanks for these great pictures of Roma, but I have to say this, Roma is more beautiful than all the pictures, sum is greater than individual parts.
I know, it was my home for 2 years.

This is fake Roma. It looks like Caeser's Palace in Las Vegas.

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You know, instead of letting all that great ancient Roman architecture rot in the middle of the city, why not build it back the same way the ancient Romans did? Make it look new again? I'd much rather go see something I can actually see, then imagine how it once looked. Eventually all those ruins are going to dissipate anyway, why not just make them more future proof and beautiful once again? The city would be much more interesting if the historic parts looked exactly like did in the Roman times. It's great architecture, it should be shown in all its glory, not in ruin. I find it strange how European countries don’t put nearly as much care into their historic architecture than other places around the world. You don’t see historic landmarks decaying like this in many other parts of the world.

I completely disagree with you. Rome is not Las Vegas or Dubai, it's a unique city in the world with real old monuments.
It's not a theme park and it will never be. Monuments are and have to be restored but they don't have to be altered. If so, they will loose their history and importance (in my opinion). Also, every country has got its culture and to do that in Italy will be IMPOSSIBLE.

Now, i answer the other post...
Boring?
You've never been there, it's one of, if not, the most beautiful city in the world and it's quite vibrant and cool.

Rome is a wonderful city. Although sometimes I wish they will plant some trees and plants in some of those streets and especially in the Plazas. Can you post more photos! :cheers:

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Beautiful Rome as always :cheers:

Are they ever going to build some modern buildings in the city somewhere? They need to step it up and not fall behind. Do you have photos of the business district?

I think called EUR
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Are they ever going to build some modern buildings in the city somewhere? They need to step it up and not fall behind. Do you have photos of the business district?

They are building this museum in central Rome and some other buildings in the EUR area. I don't think we'll ever see lots of skyscrapers like La Defence in Rome...for that there is Milan.
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Despite Battisti or not Battisti, we Brazilian, descendent or not, LOVE Italy!

I take it u have never actually been to Rome then huh? :dunno:

Everyone to their own I guess....but I think u would change your mind if u went there. :)

Hmmm.. problably not. My grandpa has been in Rome 3 times, the first 2 times he loved it. But the last time (november 2008) he hated! I've seen photos, it's not my taste of city. Actually neighter Venice, Paris, Madrid. I don't know why.

I completely disagree with you. Rome is not Las Vegas or Dubai, it's a unique city in the world with real old monuments.
It's not a theme park and it will never be. Monuments are and have to be restored but they don't have to be altered. If so, they will loose their history and importance (in my opinion). Also, every country has got its culture and to do that in Italy will be IMPOSSIBLE.


Well yeah, but the city would be so beautiful if they just restored what's there. Wouldn't you rather see Rome with some sparkling marble white and red roof buildings, instead of decaying ruins? They could rebuild the Roman Colissum. Or what about the Acropolis in Greece, why not restore it to it once was, overlooking the city. It would be so beautiful. If they don’t do anything it’s all going to be gone one day, and they’ll be left with nothing. All that stuff in Las Vegas is so fake it's not even funny.

the history alone is wow

the history alone is wow

I'm a History teacher in a public school in Brasilia graduated in History at the University of Brasilia. Man, I love Roman History!!!

Hmmm.. problably not. My grandpa has been in Rome 3 times, the first 2 times he loved it. But the last time (november 2008) he hated! I've seen photos, it's not my taste of city. Actually neighter Venice, Paris, Madrid. I don't know why.

Oh well, but as I was saying before, every one to their own I guess, I mean, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same thing right?! So, what is your kind of city? :)

Well yeah, but the city would be so beautiful if they just restored what's there. Wouldn't you rather see Rome with some sparkling marble white and red roof buildings, instead of decaying ruins? They could rebuild the Roman Colissum. Or what about the Acropolis in Greece, why not restore it to it once was, overlooking the city. It would so beautiful. If they don’t do anything it’s all going to be gone one day, and they’ll be left with nothing. All that stuff in Las Vegas is so fake it's not even funny.

Don't worry man, everything is going to be gone one day..
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That museum looks huge ^^

Oh well, but as I was saying before, every one to their own I guess, I mean, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same thing right?! So, what is your kind of city? :)

Well, first, the city has to have hills and a river. Has to have old buildings sharing the same area with new, modern and tall buildings. Pittsburgh is a good example for what I'm saying. And, sometimes some density makes my taste too, like Curitiba. :):):)

:banana:

Don't worry man, everything is going to be gone one day..
:goodbye:

Yeah, but it's like if we never did repair work on the Statue of Liberty. Who would want to come to New York and see lady liberty missing her torch? Do you know how much work they put into preserving that thing? I don't understand why they don't restore the Parthenon and Coliseum, and the other great architecture. People come to Rome all over the world just to see them, they should look like their supposed to.

Amazing... I love those "old buildings" to remember the Romans.

Yeah, but it's like if we never did repair work on the Statue of Liberty. Who would want to come to New York and see lady liberty missing her torch? Do you know how much work they put into preserving that thing? I don't understand why they don't restore the Parthenon and Coliseum, and the other great architecture. People come to Rome all over the world just to see them, they should look like their supposed to.

Well, the Statue of liberty stands for something, it represents the spirit of the american civilization. What if one day, another civilization will be built on the same ground, based on totally different values? It will not stop to represent what it stands for and maybe it will be destroyed or it will become a ruin. We actually care a lot about those ruins, and you can be sure they will not collapse...but we don't want them to stop being ruins, because that's what they are, they are ruins of a civilization that does not belong to us anymore. So we are ready to restore and preserve any other monument that still stands for something which is still alive for us ( in different ways actually but this is not the point) but not those ruins. They belong to our history, to our memory, to our heritage, but they do not belong anymore to our culture. Only during the times of the romantic movement we europeans started to understand that those ruins had to be preserved, but..as ruins. As what they are. A ruin has a very high symbolic value as it stands for the end of the civilization in which it was a monument. In a way, something of what the ancient Rome did represent it is being represented today in Washington D.C, even the name of some of your institutions and their buildings are very much the same (the senate, the capitol).
:)

Rome The Eternal City , what a place to be!!
I love this city with its rich culture, beautiful architecture and history, exquisite food and amazing people.
You did a great job here showing us this wonderful place, nice shots, beautiful thread.

Thanks for sharing.

Well, the Statue of liberty stands for something, it represents the spirit of the american civilization. What if one day, another civilization will be built on the same ground, based on totally different values? It will not stop to represent what it stands for and maybe it will be destroyed or it will become a ruin. We actually care a lot about those ruins, and you can be sure they will not collapse...but we don't want them to stop being ruins, because that's what they are, they are ruins of a civilization that does not belong to us anymore. So we are ready to restore and preserve any other monument that still stands for something which is still alive for us ( in different ways actually but this is not the point) but not those ruins. They belong to our history, to our memory, to our heritage, but they do not belong anymore to our culture. Only during the times of the romantic movement we europeans started to understand that those ruins had to be preserved, but..as ruins. As what they are. A ruin has a very high symbolic value as it stands for the end of the civilization in which it was a monument. In a way, something of what the ancient Rome did represent it is being represented today in Washington D.C, even the name of some of your institutions and their buildings are very much the same (the senate, the capitol).
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That's a very interesting way of looking at it, I didn't think of that. I would think you would want to be proud of your heritage too though, the people you are descended from. Other places in the world in Asia and in the Middle East don't have that mindset. China and Japan in particular, where times long passed are still preserved today. It just doesn’t make as much sense to me, because that what defines you. There is indeed Roman inspired architecture in Washington DC, and it's very beautiful to see in person. Yet it's definitely not Rome either, they’re very different cities.

That's a very interesting way of looking at it, I didn't think of that. I would think you would want to be proud of your heritage too though, the people you are descended from. Other places in the world in Asia and in the Middle East don't have that mindset. China and Japan in particular, where times long passed are still preserved today. It just doesn’t make as much sense to me, because that what defines you. There is indeed Roman inspired architecture in Washington DC, and it's very beautiful to see in person. Yet it's definitely not Rome either, they’re very different cities.

Our history is not easy to understand, expecially what happened in Rome at the dawn of the christian civilization, just take a look at the life and works of the great emperors Constantine (Costantino) and Julian (Giuliano), you will see how much the conflict beetween christianity and the pagan institutions has shaped the political and cultural categories of the whole western world. Rome is an open air-museum for every westerner willing to know the real origins (and the great tensions) of the world he lives in. The conflict was politically won by christianity (the spiritual one is still going on) and the empire was refounded as a christian institution..this is the reason why the ruins of Rome are not just an italian or european heritage and the reason why their value is simply unextimable. And that is also why it is not a question of not taking care or not being proud of our heritage. I guess now you are starting to fall in love with the power of the idea of Rome, which nothing has to do with its beauty (even if every italian is proud of it).
As for Venice, it is simply a problem of costs: we do not have the resources to renew each one of the enormous amount of old buildings we would like to preserve from decay..:)

roma has an unique beauty!! iwant to see all italians capitals in one thread!! thanksfor sharing!

Rome is so historically important and hope to visit one day.

That's a very interesting way of looking at it, I didn't think of that. I would think you would want to be proud of your heritage too though, the people you are descended from. Other places in the world in Asia and in the Middle East don't have that mindset. China and Japan in particular, where times long passed are still preserved today. It just doesn’t make as much sense to me, because that what defines you. There is indeed Roman inspired architecture in Washington DC, and it's very beautiful to see in person. Yet it's definitely not Rome either, they’re very different cities.

I respect your opinion but as an Italian who was born and raised there i find it very hard to accept your point. For me, the beauty of those "ruins" is that are ruins. I can see the history through them and they actually stimulate my mind that start wondering how it would have been experiencing the sight of them when they were new in those old times. Again, this is our culture. We live in a very old country and we know what a monument is but for the majority of us, if everything will be restored to their original glory will loose its authenticity and will look VERY fake. Hope you get our point.
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Well, first, the city has to have hills and a river. Has to have old buildings sharing the same area with new, modern and tall buildings. Pittsburgh is a good example for what I'm saying. And, sometimes some density makes my taste too, like Curitiba. :):):)

:banana:

Yeah, see what u mean. Curitiba rocks!! Rome is not for everyone, but if u are genuinely interested in this kind of history and interested in a city that has such a rich and historical culture then it's a must see/visit imo. :)

Hey, do u think ALF would like Rome? :lol: :banana:

I respect your opinion but as an Italian who was born and raised there i find it very hard to accept your point. For me, the beauty of those "ruins" is that are ruins. I can see the history through them and they actually stimulate my mind that start wondering how it would have been experiencing the sight of them when they were new in those old times. Again, this is our culture. We live in a very old country and we know what a monument is but for the majority of us, if everything will be restored to their original glory will loose its authenticity and will look VERY fake. Hope you get our point.
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Not if you restore them the same way they were built, with real materials. It doesn’t make any sense to have ruins sitting in the middle of a huge city. They don't even have that problem in London, all the stuff has been preserved. I don't get it, an earthquake could hit at any moment and level them all. If you’re just waiting for that to happen, if your not going to make an effort to preserve them, just bulldoze them all right now, move them into a museum, or out of the city. The ruins are beautiful, but they shouldn't be in the middle of Rome! They're getting exposed to all sorts of chemicals that are making them rot away. Rebuild and preserve them for future generations to see or get them out of Rome.

Not if you restore them the same way they were built, with real materials. It doesn’t make any sense to have ruins sitting in the middle of a huge city. They don't even have that problem in London, all the stuff has been preserved. I don't get it, an earthquake could hit at any moment and level them all. If you’re just waiting for that to happen, if your not going to make an effort to preserve them, just bulldoze them all right now, move them into a museum, or out of the city. The ruins are beautiful, but they shouldn't be in the middle of Rome! They're getting exposed to all sorts of chemicals that are making them rot away. Rebuild and preserve them for future generations to see or get them out of Rome.

Ok...Anyway, that hasn't been taken into consideration. Very few people want it plus it would cost a fortune...
I guess you don't like countries like Italy, Greece or Egypt, don't you?

Ok...Anyway, that hasn't been taken into consideration. Very few people want it plus it would cost a fortune...
I guess you don't like countries like Italy, Greece or Egypt, don't you?

Not at all, I'm questioning why some of the world’s greatest ancient wonders are rotting away in the middle of certain European cities.

You know, instead of letting all that great ancient Roman architecture rot in the middle of the city, why not build it back the same way the ancient Romans did? Make it look new again? I'd much rather go see something I can actually see, then imagine how it once looked. Eventually all those ruins are going to dissipate anyway, why not just make them more future proof and beautiful once again? The city would be much more interesting if the historic parts looked exactly like did in the Roman times. It's great architecture, it should be shown in all its glory, not in ruin. I find it strange how European countries don’t put nearly as much care into their historic architecture than other places around the world. You don’t see historic landmarks decaying like this in many other parts of the world.


They represent what we were... it's a great richness for us especially Italians and it's quite natural for us to find "rooting monuments" instead of building them anew... like in Vegas... where you don't have anything except fake monuments... that are really inconsitent... they don't tell a past story... they are not part of your culture.... sorry!

the modern building are usually in the city subburbs... the center is in Italy usually the historic parts. SHAME if they build new buildings where the old ones stand.... SHAME!!!!