hey guys.

do u by any chance know something about the construction of Riyadh Bank Project?

i searched on the net so hard, but i hardly found anything.

any one offer to help?

That was long time ago ,

the Riyadh Bank was having a land between Olaya Street and King Fahad Road , next to Andalus mall . but they sell it to an investor ,

after that nothing heared ,^^^^

thank you for your information anyway.

do you mean the construction is completely finished?

hey guys.

i am dying looking for some professional websites of saudi, specializing on constructional glass industry, on construction contractors, on construction information, on door&window hardware.

if i fail, my boss will be really pissed.

Any one help me?

glass industry
Al-Afif Glass Fabrication Factory (http://www.al-afif.com/e_main.htm)
Saudi Arabian Glass Company (http://www.saudi-glass.com/)
Abdullah Al-Wakeel & Brothers Company (http://www.alwakeel.com/)
Almanee for Aluminum & Tempered Glass Factory (http://www.almanco.com/)

construction contractors
Saudi Oger (http://www.saudioger.com/index.html)
Saudi Consulting Services (http://www.saudconsult.com/)
SAPAC (http://www.sapac.com.sa/)
Watad Alarabiya (http://www.watad-alarabia.com/)
Saudi Naval Support Company Limited (http://www.sns.com.sa/)
Al Harbi Trading & Contracting (http://www.alharbi.com.sa/)
ALAZHAR Trading Group (http://www.alazhar.com.sa/)
Saudi Binladen Group (http://www.sbg.com.sa/)
Al Masarat for Construction Co. Ltd (http://212.12.183.189/MCC/StartPage.aspx)
Alfanar Electrical Systems (http://www.eletra.com.sa/)
Al Sale Trading And Contracting Co. (http://www.alsale.com/home.htm)
more (http://www.arabo.com/links/,199,225,211,218,230,207,237,201/,212,209,223,199,202/,227,222,199,230,225,199,202/more2.html)

Information
Al muayed manpower (www.almuayedmanpower.com)
HAK Group (www.saudijobs.com)
Gulf Talent (www.GulfTalent.com)
SRACO (Saeed R Al-Zahrani Corp)
INCO (Industrial Contracting Co.)
The Choice International (http://www.thechoiceint.com/)

door&window hardware
Arabian Vermiculite Industries (http://www.avi-sa.com/)
Hesco (http://www.hesco-sa.com/)
ZAMIL GROUP (http://www.zamil.com/index.php?lang=ar)
Maadaniyah (http://www.natmetalco.com/)
Reda National Company (http://www.redanational.com/asp/home.asp)
Al-Muhaidib Hardware (http://www.mhw.com.sa/)
Almanee Trading & Industrial Corp (http://www.almanee.com/)
More (http://www.arabo.com/links/,199,225,211,218,230,207,237,201/,212,209,223,199,202/,213,228,199,218,201/more9.html)

hope it help you

it helps me a lot!!!

thank u so much, saudi guy.

and i hope one day there is something i can do for u.

your boss would give you a bonus now :D

i hope so too.

but the economy right now is really bad.

if i cannot get any order, i will get fired, definitely.

^^ better do your job well.:)
Give it your BEST even.

Sorry for the late reply! Here're some extra Construction Contractors:
International Building Systems (http://www.ibscoksa.com/)
Specialized Contracting Company (http://scc.com.sa/home.html)
Saudi Building Construction Management (http://www.sbcm-sa.com/profile/profile-datasheet.htm)
STS Al Ta'afuf Company (http://www.stsksa.com/)
Compass Contracting (http://www.compasscontracting.com.sa/)
Freyssinet Saudi Arabia (http://www.fsa.com.sa/)

I cannot remember at the moment the other fields you requested. I hope the above is of any help for you.

thank u so much. u guys are really nice.

hey guys.

is there any websites about Dammam or Eastern Province?

And i think i should have an Arabian name.

What do you guys have?

whats wrong with the Chinese one?

my chinese one is ok.

i just think an Arabian name can help me to get well along with my clients.

And more importantly, it can help me get integrated with the local community

and culture when i get there in saudi.

So any ideas about my arabian name ?

^
^
^
How about " Ali - علي " ? it's easy to pronounce (Alī) and pretty common here :) ( it means : The highest, greatest, excellent, noble )

other names you may use :

Amin, Ameen أمين - Faithful, trustworthy
Ammar عمار - Builder, constructor
Yasir ياسر - Wealthy
Jamal جمال - Beauty
Hani هاني - Happy, delighted, content
Naji ناجي - Safe
Salman سلمان - Safe
Sami سامي - High, lofty, exalted
Majid, Majd ماجد - Glorious

you can compound tow names into one and have a full Arabic name :lol: so you can be for example : Mr. Ali Yasir , Sami Hani , Jamal Salman or Ammar Yasir ( this is fun , I love doing this :lol: )

a long list if you wanna go deep
http://www.ummah.net/family/masc.html

but you know what you should have ? a Kunya !
mostly every one here has one ..

A kunya (Arabic: كنية‎) or Kunyat[1] is an honorific widely used in place of given names through the Arab world and the medieval Muslim world.[2] It is a component of an Arabic name, a type of epithet referring to the bearer's first-born son or daughter.
Often, a kunya referring to the person's first-born son is used as a substitute for the ism ( name ) : for example, أبو كريم "Abu Karim" for "father of Karim", and أم كريم "Umm Karim", "mother of Karim". It can refer to the person's first-born son*. The kunya precedes the ism when not replacing it.
Men who do not yet have a child are often nevertheless addressed by a made-up kunya. Most often the name chosen comes from a popular name in history, the man choosing his own kunya, although sometimes it would be the name of their father. The kunya may also be totally made up, although less often.


what do you think ? :nuts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunya_(arabic)

thank u guys so much.

By the way, i prefer Amin.

^^ its pronounced Ameen though

thank u guys so much.

By the way, i prefer Amin.

lol .. that's my name :D
it's pronounced (Amēn)
ē as in bee

thank u guys.

i wish i could have this name earlier, so i could have used this name while dealing with my clients.

hey guys.

how are u doing these days?

Do you guys by any chance know some official websites of saudi for projects bidding?

by the way, i added all of you guys as my friend.

and can u give me your MSN or ICQ, or mail address?

so we can get along better.

i hope i can see u guys in person one day.

Hi guys,

I'd be grateful if you could provide me a list of architectural consulting practices working in KSA (both local and international).

Thanks very much in advance!

Is there a way for a non-Muslim to visit Mecca?

Is there a way for a non-Muslim to visit Mecca?

TO BECOME A MOSLEM

that is a good one

Can i just lie about being a Muslim when entering Mecca? Does that fly?
I mean no disrespect here , and i am not planning on going to KSA , but i'd like to know what my options are , in case i do decide to go there. Mecca looks amazing on the pictures i've seen , i would like to visit it.

Hi guys,

I'd be grateful if you could provide me a list of architectural consulting practices working in KSA (both local and international).

Thanks very much in advance!

Saudi Diyar Consultants (http://www.diyar.com/profile.html)
Zuhair Fayez Partnership Consultants (http://www.zfp.com/)

I would've loved to list more but those are the only ones of which I have a good impression.

Is there a way for a non-Muslim to visit Mecca?

No, and the same case applies to Madinah, too.

Can i just lie about being a Muslim when entering Mecca? Does that fly?
I mean no disrespect here , and i am not planning on going to KSA , but i'd like to know what my options are , in case i do decide to go there. Mecca looks amazing on the pictures i've seen , i would like to visit it.

YES YOU CAN , BUT THEY WILL FIRST EXAMINE YOU AND THEY WILL DO FOLLOW UP , AND MAY BE YOU WILL FIND ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION , OTHER WAY IF YOU CAN PRETEND ISLAM AND THEN YOU CHANGE , THATS WILL BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN KILLING , THEY WILL KILL YOU ,ITS VERY FORBIDDEN

Is there a way for a non-Muslim to visit Mecca?

go to the nearest mosque and bribe the Imam for a letter proves that you are a Muslim, then submit the letter along with the visa documents. After couple of weeks you'll get your visa :cheers:

THEY WILL KILL YOU
no they wouldn't !!!!

Saudi Diyar Consultants (http://www.diyar.com/profile.html)
Zuhair Fayez Partnership Consultants (http://www.zfp.com/)

I would've loved to list more but those are the only ones of which I have a good impression.


شُكْرًا لَكَ !

no they wouldn't !!!![/QUOTE]

THEY CONSIDERED HIM AS WHAT YOU CALLED MORTAD ( Apostate ) , I KNOW MANY CASES , IF THEY APPROVED THIS

^^
Actually, in these current times, they'll just settle with exiling whomever out of the country, especially if he had a nationality other than Saudi.

I KNOW MANY CASES , IF THEY APPROVED THIS

never heard of any

THATS WILL BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN KILLING , THEY WILL KILL YOU ,ITS VERY FORBIDDEN

You know what they say: "To see Rome Mecca and die!" :)

go to the nearest mosque and bribe the Imam for a letter proves that you are a Muslim, then submit the letter along with the visa documents. After couple of weeks you'll get your visa :cheers:


Do a lot of imams take bribes? :)

no they wouldn't !!!!

THEY CONSIDERED HIM AS WHAT YOU CALLED MORTAD ( Apostate ) , I KNOW MANY CASES , IF THEY APPROVED THIS[/QUOTE]

I'm originally from Makkah,my whole family from there...but,I've never ever heard about anyy of those cases:)

Do a lot of imams take bribes? :)
I don't know, they don't deal with money the most of the time. Their job is just to lead a prayer, they even can't collect donations in Saudi Arabia.

I'm a non-Muslim with an Israeli stamp in my passport , i think they will kill me .:nuts::lol:

^^ that would be cool, death is a new experience :)

I'm a non-Muslim with an Israeli stamp in my passport , i think they will kill me .:nuts::lol:

Well, GOOD LUCK!:nuts::nuts:

I'm sad to see there isn't much information online about visiting Saudi Arabia as a tourist. You have to really dig hard for it. :(


I went to Jamaica last year and finding information was EASY.

any body in Al Khobar, Dammam, Dhahran,
Please help!

Have been trying to find BIG residential developments in this area- new ones that were just completed, or those that are under construction now, or those that are proposed, planned but still on drawing board.

Please include seafront resorts, apartment complexes, residential communities.
Please help all you seasoned real estate trackers!

Refer to Saudi Projects Sub-Section (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=933) and go through the several pages. There're plenty of Dammam & Khobar projects there. Perhaps you should've checked there before creating this thread!

million thanks for replying
i did check the saudi projects sub-section before starting this thread, but postings are outdated, like from 2003-2006
I would like more recent info, like from 2008-2009
any suggestions

Just a notification by our dear Mod, Saudi Guy! :)

please my friends try to avoid creating posts only for asking updates,definitely if we have new update we will post it!aren't we?

Which was the first motorway built in Saudi Arabia? Is the "motorway sign" used in Europe ( in some countries in green) also used in Saudi Arabia or other Arabian countries?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Norwegian-road-sign-502.0.svg/252px-Norwegian-road-sign-502.0.svg.png

Refer to Saudi Projects Sub-Section (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=933) and go through the several pages. There're plenty of Dammam & Khobar projects there. Perhaps you should've checked there before creating this thread!
:bash:
i live in Dhahran, i don't see nothing, exept for the bone bulding on the khobar-Doha road :ohno:

hey you guys

when i am checking out the projects, i think in eastern province there are not so many fancy buildings, i mean compared with riyadh and jeddah.

how come?

are there any large contracting companies or groups in eastern province?

where can i find them and contact them?

Is there any regular bus service connecting Riyadh and Dubai ? or between Riyadh and Sana'a ? If yes, what's the fare ?

Actually somebody offered me to do my M.A in King Saud U Riyadh. Am wondering how is it to live in Saudi ? I was in Muscat Oman and was extremely impressed at high standards of living there with extremely easy life, great people and neverending luxury .

Sorry if this has been answered before.

What are the 100 largest Saudi companies measured by revenues, for the year 2008?

Is there any regular bus service connecting Riyadh and Dubai ? or between Riyadh and Sana'a ? If yes, what's the fare ?

Actually somebody offered me to do my M.A in King Saud U Riyadh. Am wondering how is it to live in Saudi ? I was in Muscat Oman and was extremely impressed at high standards of living there with extremely easy life, great people and neverending luxury .
i guess you'll find everything here
http://www.saptco.com.sa/


What are the 100 largest Saudi companies measured by revenues, for the year 2008?

check this site
http://www.sauditop100.com/

Already checked SAPTCO site since last year but they don't have the full schedule/fare table for international lines.

check this site
http://www.sauditop100.com/

There's only information for 2007, nothing related to 2008 yet. Any list for largest Saudi companies in 2008?

Hey,
Sorry I don't know where to ask this question, but does anyone have any updated news on the proposed causeway between northwest KSA and Sinai Peninsula in Egypt?

I couldn't find anything more recent than this article (http://www.arabianbusiness.com/512333-tenders-for-4bn-saudi-egypt-causeway-this-year) dated 01 March 2008.

Does anyone have experience of importing a car into KSA? I'm coming over from Abu Dhabi and want to bring my beloved Jeep...Can it be done?

thanks flares

You have two options:
1- Ship your car to whichever city in KSA but the registration papers will be stamped with a "For Personal Use Only" stamp for three years. Meaning, you won't be able to sell your car for three years since you're not Saudi.

2- Transfer your car's ownership to a trustworthy Saudi friend and let him do the paperwork. Once the car arrives to your desired city, you can take your friend yet again to transfer back the ownership. In this scenario, you can sell the car anytime you want, rather than the first scenario in which you'll be able to sell your car three years after the car's entry.

You have two options:
1- Ship your car to whichever city in KSA but the registration papers will be stamped with a "For Personal Use Only" stamp for three years. Meaning, you won't be able to sell your car for three years since you're not Saudi.

2- Transfer your car's ownership to a trustworthy Saudi friend and let him do the paperwork. Once the car arrives to your desired city, you can take your friend yet again to transfer back the ownership. In this scenario, you can sell the car anytime you want, rather than the first scenario in which you'll be able to sell your car three years after the car's entry.

Cheers - looks like option 1 for me.

السلام عليكم

Has anyone got the details of the Hajj 2009 flights between Sri Lanka and Jeddah?


I have opened a new thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=933322) to discuss about Saudi Arabian Airports/Aviation. I really appreciate your contribution.
You can contribute with Saudi Airport/Aviation News, Saudi Airports/Airlines Pictures, How KSA flights can be improved?? and so on.


Many Thanks
Banuthev
www.airsrilanka.org

Ramadhan Mubarak to you all!!

Is observing the fasting a mandatory in Saudi Arabia?

^^
It's mandatory in Islam as a whole and not just for specific countries. Islam has five pillars as bases. One cannot be considered a Muslim if even one dropped and these are:
1- Testifying that Allah is the one and only God, and that Mohammed is a Prophet and a Messenger of Allah.
2- Performing the daily prayers.
3- Alms giving as per its conditions.
4- Fasting during the month of Ramadan.
5- Performing the Pilgrimage once a lifetime if able by all aspects.

I hope that was clear enough. :colgate:

But is it mandatory by the law?

It's a yes or no question. Anybody??

I'm not one qualified to answer your question. I fast in compliance with Islam commandments and not with Governmental bylaws. Sorry! :dunno:

Can a Saudi walk into a restaurant in Riyadh at 3 o'clock in the afternoon during the Ramadan month, order a meal and eat it in front of everybody? Are restaurants even open in daytime during Ramadan?

as i informed in emirates if you eat in front of the public in Ramadan you will be arrested so i guess saudi arabia the same!

What about a non-Muslim? Can he eat in public?

iam talking about non muslim!

So all the restaurants are closed till dark?

YES , all restaurants are closed till after the sun sets - except some restaurants , they open before sunset so you can by your "Iftar" or break-the-fast-meal -
it's not against the law - as I understand - for a non-Muslim to eat in public , but it's not polite to do so , and people will not hesitate to tell to respect their fast and eat in private .

Hi,

I'm not sure if this the right section for my question but the thread says we can ask questions about the country...Mine is related to durrat-alaroos...Is the entry there restricted ?... I'm a Pakistani and I want to go and visit the place and probably spend a day there ... but I have been told that the best areas there are not open for everyone (Indians,Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in particular) .. I've heard only saudis and westerners are allowed in those areas... now I understand if you have to pay to go somewhere that's an exclusive or private property.... but if a person is not allowed to enter altogether based on his skin colour then it is really sad...
A friend of mine told me that we (you know what I mean by "we") can go only if the purpose of our visit is business and our company gives us some kind of an official document stating so.Whereas, the Saudis and the Westerners can go about anywhere they want in durrat-alaroos..
Please let me know if this is exactly how it is ?

yep you are in right place my dear :)
i think there misunderstanding,usually foreign whose go to durat al aros or any other resorts used to be western but that doesn't mean you can't . anyway you must know that it will cost you allot started from 500SR per night,i have never been there before so you have to wait someone else who has experience to give you the details maybe The Pharaoh or rody69 :)

Thank You for replying Saudi Guy.

I am willing to pay. But I need to know if there is no such restriction on Asians
especially the people of the sub continent. Because I have been told that there are some places in durrat-alaroos where "we" can't go.

so you have to wait someone else who has experience to give you the details maybe The Pharaoh or rody69 :)

Why would you assume I'm more experienced in that? :?

My family owns a chalet (beach-house, cabin or whatever you might call it) there. Consequently, I carry a free-access card which allows me to go pretty much to wherever I'd want to go, albeit the fact that I don't leave the chalet except for supplies (coffee, in particular). So, the skintone-based access isn't one of my "expertise". However, there are some areas that have restricted access for residents/renters only.

I guess that wasn't very helpful. Sorry! :(

^^oh my bad,sorry to involve you in that! you live close to the resorts that why i thought you may be!

Why would you assume I'm more experienced in that? :?

My family owns a chalet (beach-house, cabin or whatever you might call it) there. Consequently, I carry a free-access card which allows me to go pretty much to wherever I'd want to go, albeit the fact that I don't leave the chalet except for supplies (coffee, in particular). So, the skintone-based access isn't one of my "expertise". However, there are some areas that have restricted access for residents/renters only.

I guess that wasn't very helpful. Sorry! :(


Is your chalet up for rent ? :) . Is there anyone on the forums who can shed some light on the color-based access ?

^^oh my bad,sorry to involve you in that! you live close to the resorts that why i thought you may be!

Relax, dude! I was just messing with ya.. You sure take every single post very much seriously. :lol: Chill out, man!!!

Is your chalet up for rent ? :)

Sorry! Our chalet's for personal-use only... You cannot believe how people take advantage of rentals (chalets, cars, apartments.. etc.). Besides, it's not my decision to make. All I know is that my father doesn't put any of his properties up for rent. I think he had some really bad experiences...

Sorry! :(

Sorry! Our chalet's for personal-use only... You cannot believe how people take advantage of rentals (chalets, cars, apartments.. etc.). Besides, it's not my decision to make. All I know is that my father doesn't put any of his properties up for rent. I think he had some really bad experiences...
Sorry! :(

No problem dude! I'll try to find someone who can arrange a chalet for me.You're totally right about the misuse of rentals.
I have another question for you guys..Is there a website where I can check prices of cell phones in the kingdom?.
My google skills took me to jarirbookstore.com but that's just about how far I got.

Hi Guys salam to all,

I am always facing problems with finding the contracting company related to the projects online. Any one can help me out since i m in a gr8 trouble. Almost i am facing problem with Boss only due to have lacking of business..

Please any one can help me out..

Thanks & Best Regards

^^
Zawya (http://www.zawya.com/projects/)
Saudi Tenders (http://www.sauditenders.com/)
AMEinfo (http://www.ameinfo.com/search/?do=search&app_name=db&audio=&video=&query=Search+for...&go=Find&mh=10&Country=Saudi_Arabia&ma=0&Organizer_save=)
MIDDLE EAST CONSTRUCTION DESIGN DIRECTORY (http://www.constructiondesigndirectory.com/cnt-Saudi_Arabia)

otherwise you can check threads in Saudi projects section one by one to get all contractors that involved in each project.

hi there,
any body knows about an upcoming residential development of 4000 villas? it is called as "divan al malaik" or some thing... i am not sure about its name.
if somebody knows it please let me know where this projecvt is

What is the best gay disco in Riyadh?

There aren't any disco's (not public ones to say the least) in Riyadh in particular nor in Saudi Arabia in general..

^^ I know. I´m just kidding :)

How do young people meet each other there and fall in love? Especially if someboby wants to marry, this somebody must meet a lover 1st, no? :)

Hi guys,
I hope you are doing good and may Allah be with you. I have some questions concerning Arabia.

1- Why arabia is recognized as Saudi arabia internationally? is it because of the Saudis kingdom? do people think It's okay that the rulers put their name beside the real name of the country?
2- do you believe there will be an uprising against the Saudis regime as Turki bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud said? how many people in arabia think the country should stop being a kingdom? I know some people in arabia like them, but please explain it for me.
3- do you believe the persian gulf states can put problems aside and unite for the common interests in the region to not let foreigners attack muslims while they are using their oil and energy?

Thanks in advance brothers.

1- Why arabia is recognized as Saudi arabia internationally? is it because of the Saudis kingdom? do people think It's okay that the rulers put their name beside the real name of the country?

Simply because when King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud united Arabia he chose to name it kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in my opinion the name Kingdom of Arabia with the nationality renamed Arabian is batter then Kingdom of Saudi Arabia/ Saudi Arabian, now saying that i actually don't mind the name because no matter what name this land may have it will always be the home of my ancestors, the home that i was born in the home that i love and will defend until the last drop of my blood.

2- do you believe there will be an uprising against the Saudis regime as Turki bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud said? how many people in arabia think the country should stop being a kingdom? I know some people in arabia like them, but please explain it for me..

I don't think so, because the problem is not from Al Saud the main problem here is the Islamic lobby, you can see that the government is trying step by step to push for moderation ( moderation do`s not equal westernization ) by opening a co-ed University...etc witch was faced by a huge criticism from the Islamic Lobby, BUT if there was an uprising it will be from these mother fuckers because they don't want us to build and improve this country they simply want us to pray & obey , you must also know that all of the minsters, Army commanders, Mayors are normal citizens not every important / law making position in the government is held by a member of Al Saud.

3- do you believe the persian gulf states can put problems aside and unite for the common interests in the region to not let foreigners attack muslims while they are using their oil and energy?

Yes i believe that we must cast away our problem and unite in order to stand against our common threats, but achieving this will be something near imposable.

Hi guys,
I hope you are doing good and may Allah be with you. I have some questions concerning Arabia.
First of all, our country's name is Saudi Arabia not Arabia.

1- Why arabia is recognized as Saudi arabia internationally? is it because of the Saudis kingdom? do people think It's okay that the rulers put their name beside the real name of the country?

Wrong. Saudi Arabia does not cover the whole Arabian peninsula as there are the other GCC states and Yemen, although we do cover 4/5 of the peninsula.
The question about the name is utterly ridiculous as it seems that it stems from your apparent disagreement with the Saudi regime. But to explain things more to you:
The country's name in the period between 1902-1925 was The Sultanate of Nejd.
From 1925-1926 it became The Kingdom of Nejd.
From 1926-1932 it was changed to the United Kingdom of Nejd and Hejaz.
Then from 1932-present The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was chosen as the state's official name. It was chosen in a conference held by a league of local intellectuals and politicians in the city of Taif. So, it is not a forced name per se.
The public doesn't really like or dislike the name as there isn't much tension between the citizens and the royals. If anything, the name Saudi Arabia is taken proudly by most citizens.



2- do you believe there will be an uprising against the Saudis regime as Turki bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud said? how many people in arabia think the country should stop being a kingdom? I know some people in arabia like them, but please explain it for me.
I personally don't think there will be a revolution anytime soon. There have been some unrest in the past but as the Dude of Dhahran mentioned it's all do to the extreme Islamic lobby's desire for a Talibanic state. Although, this lobby only represents a small minority –and decreasing-, this minority is being pressured on by the government for the apparent security risks.
Now, the rest of the population can be divided into two main groups. Conservatives and liberals, conservatives are by far the greater majority. They are your average Saudis who care about their basic needs and usually aren't politically informed. Historically, liberals were usually the upper-class intellectuals and royalty asking for change and in some cases Westernization. But nowadays, a new fraction of poorly-described liberals are being represented by the youth who are just 'fed up with all the rules'. Either way, none of these movements have ever asked for an uprising against the current regime. I also forgot to mention that there are other movements -some of them oppositionist/separatist- who don't really contribute to the political scene such as the Green Party, the MIRA, the various Shiite separatists, or the Free Princes.

The region's overall political culture is shallow and weak. So, the public does not care if it's a monarchy rule or a republican one. All they care about, is that their needs (some are basic and some are mere luxurious) are being served by a fair and wise government. So at the moment, no one –with a heard voice- is really asking for a big change such as an uprising.

3- do you believe the persian gulf states can put problems aside and unite for the common interests in the region to not let foreigners attack muslims while they are using their oil and energy?
Your question has to be separated in two. Yes, I believe and everyone believes (including the leaders) that the GCC has a bright future and is being given attention now more than ever, it might turn into a union similar to the EU but that's unlikely in the current atmosphere, although I don't doubt that it will eventually happen.
Now about the second part, foreign intervention cannot be linked with religion. A country (or a semi-union in this case) has to do what it has to do to protect its citizens from an outsider enemy, regardless of the enemy's religion and that's simple politics. So, when our governments asked for foreign bases and let an outsider force [the US] launch rockets form our lands, they were only looking after us (their citizens). And our 'oil/energy' isn't being used for free, it's simple trade. We sell and they buy.

Thanks in advance brothers.
You're welcome :)

3- do you believe the persian gulf states can put problems aside and unite for the common interests in the region to not let foreigners attack muslims while they are using their oil and energy?


I actually believe it's called the Arabian gulf :)

Saudi arabia should change its name to : Arabia

no need for one family name

Saudi arabia should change its name to : Arabia

no need for one family name

Nope no need to change ourcountry's name, i like it the way it its.


VIVA SAUDI ARABIAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Simply because when King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud united Arabia he chose to name it kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in my opinion the name Kingdom of Arabia with the nationality renamed Arabian is batter then Kingdom of Saudi Arabia/ Saudi Arabian, now saying that i actually don't mind the name because no matter what name this land may have it will always be the home of my ancestors, the home that i was born in the home that i love and will defend until the last drop of my blood.



I don't think so, because the problem is not from Al Saud the main problem here is the Islamic lobby, you can see that the government is trying step by step to push for moderation ( moderation do`s not equal westernization ) by opening a co-ed University...etc witch was faced by a huge criticism from the Islamic Lobby, BUT if there was an uprising it will be from these mother fuckers because they don't want us to build and improve this country they simply want us to pray & obey , you must also know that all of the minsters, Army commanders, Mayors are normal citizens not every important / law making position in the government is held by a member of Al Saud.



Yes i believe that we must cast away our problem and unite in order to stand against our common threats, but achieving this will be something near imposable.

and when they decided to establish a co-education university, what was the reasoning of the Islamic lobby to oppose it? and do people still give ear to the Islamic lobby? or the Internet and other stuff is changing Saudi Arabia too like other countries?

well, if you want your country to be called Saudi Arabia, That's your choice. It's not my country that I decide for it. and I have no disagreement with the Saudis cuz I don't know them. my information about the Saudis is little cuz there's not enough information about them and I don't like to make a judge based on fake information. but I guess if you go back to decades before, like 1000 years ago, It was called Arabia. correct me If i'm wrong.

so basically, you believe people in saudi arabia think the Saudi kingdom has a wise and fair government that has served the people's interests?

Thanks for your answer.

First of all, our country's name is Saudi Arabia not Arabia.



Wrong. Saudi Arabia does not cover the whole Arabian peninsula as there are the other GCC states and Yemen, although we do cover 4/5 of the peninsula.
The question about the name is utterly ridiculous as it seems that it stems from your apparent disagreement with the Saudi regime. But to explain things more to you:
The country's name in the period between 1902-1925 was The Sultanate of Nejd.
From 1925-1926 it became The Kingdom of Nejd.
From 1926-1932 it was changed to the United Kingdom of Nejd and Hejaz.
Then from 1932-present The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was chosen as the state's official name. It was chosen in a conference held by a league of local intellectuals and politicians in the city of Taif. So, it is not a forced name per se.
The public doesn't really like or dislike the name as there isn't much tension between the citizens and the royals. If anything, the name Saudi Arabia is taken proudly by most citizens.




I personally don't think there will be a revolution anytime soon. There have been some unrest in the past but as the Dude of Dhahran mentioned it's all do to the extreme Islamic lobby's desire for a Talibanic state. Although, this lobby only represents a small minority –and decreasing-, this minority is being pressured on by the government for the apparent security risks.
Now, the rest of the population can be divided into two main groups. Conservatives and liberals, conservatives are by far the greater majority. They are your average Saudis who care about their basic needs and usually aren't politically informed. Historically, liberals were usually the upper-class intellectuals and royalty asking for change and in some cases Westernization. But nowadays, a new fraction of poorly-described liberals are being represented by the youth who are just 'fed up with all the rules'. Either way, none of these movements have ever asked for an uprising against the current regime. I also forgot to mention that there are other movements -some of them oppositionist/separatist- who don't really contribute to the political scene such as the Green Party, the MIRA, the various Shiite separatists, or the Free Princes.

The region's overall political culture is shallow and weak. So, the public does not care if it's a monarchy rule or a republican one. All they care about, is that their needs (some are basic and some are mere luxurious) are being served by a fair and wise government. So at the moment, no one –with a heard voice- is really asking for a big change such as an uprising.


Your question has to be separated in two. Yes, I believe and everyone believes (including the leaders) that the GCC has a bright future and is being given attention now more than ever, it might turn into a union similar to the EU but that's unlikely in the current atmosphere, although I don't doubt that it will eventually happen.
Now about the second part, foreign intervention cannot be linked with religion. A country (or a semi-union in this case) has to do what it has to do to protect its citizens from an outsider enemy, regardless of the enemy's religion and that's simple politics. So, when our governments asked for foreign bases and let an outsider force [the US] launch rockets form our lands, they were only looking after us (their citizens). And our 'oil/energy' isn't being used for free, it's simple trade. We sell and they buy.


You're welcome :)

well, as I said in my response to the upper post, I have no disagreement with the Saudis because I do not know them well and I do not know the people of Saudi Arabia well.

in case of oil and energy, I don't think It's just a Sell and Buy trade. technically, muslim countries are highly dependent to the west for a lot of reasons that we can discuss and those economic levers of the west, has never let muslims use their oil to construct and develop their nations. this can be discussed if you want.

thanks for your answer.
I actually believe it's called the Arabian gulf :)

well, actually I believed you're ill-informed and you should check the history of the Persian Gulf again. the Persian Gulf has been called with that name since ancient times from thousand years ago and still, according to the international laws, It is called the Persian Gulf.

That's one of the things I wanted to discuss with people here but I prevented cuz I didn't see the required atmosphere. a lot of our problems in the region are really unimportant things that they're preventing us from unity. I don't know why we should always mess with each other over names. we have a lot of such cases. like in arabic countries they say it was jebra who developed Algebra while It was the Persian Mathematician "Muhammad ebne Mūsā Khwārizmī" who developed it. or a lot of other things. such policies will prevent Islamic nations to unite and It will lead the sides to nowhere pleasant. and as you can see, the result of such actions would be like the 6 day war when a 400 million people league lost the war to a 4 million people country in 6 days and the two major reasons was "seperation of Islamic nations" and "dependence to the west".


Saudi arabia should change its name to : Arabia

no need for one family name

That's how I think. the country belongs to the people not to the rulers. It's not a major issue to make chaos for it but at least, it should be paid attention as a problem although It's not a major problem. but That doesn't concern me and It's up to arabians to decide that.

^^^ or country's name is none of your or the other dork business,and believe me we don't care about you opinions and suggestions:)
go and try to change Iran to Faris since you're really experts in changing the names of places,areas and "gulfs" :lol: (don't forget about Al-Ahwaz :) )
and for the dork:he doesn't even worth a press of a button..
P.S:
if don't like the name of our Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,simply just don't click on it in the first place,but please "kids" STOP coming here toshowing us you're crying baby faces on something not of your business :) .

ooh yeah, I really believe it's called the Arabian gulf since the citizens on both sides are Arabs :)

neutrally speaking its the Persian gulf

^^^ or country's name is none of your or the other dork business,and believe me we don't care about you opinions and suggestions:)
go and try to change Iran to Faris since you're really experts in changing the names of places,areas and "gulfs" :lol: (don't forget about Al-Ahwaz :) )
and for the dork:he doesn't even worth a press of a button..
P.S:
if don't like the name of our Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,simply just don't click on it in the first place,but please "kids" STOP coming here toshowing us you're crying baby faces on something not of your business :) .

well, according to the international laws, Ahwaz is part of our country and we can change its name to anything we want and it's our right, although it's called by the name Ahwaz officially inside Iran but we can name it to anything we please. Plus, since you can't pronounce p, It's okay, but That's Persia not Faris. or to be more precise "Pars".

If you don't want to be a sociable person and want to take an aggressive tone toward your guests on this forum, you can go to arabic sites and talk to only arabs because here is an international forum and anyone has the right to check the forums he wants and you can't bare someone from that right. if you want to check Iran's forum, you're welcome.so are other saudi arabian brothers. as I said before, I believe we should put old unreasonable fights aside and unite again for our common interests but some people like you are preventing this from happening.

and I forgive your offensive behavior and I take it as you've misunderstood it. If you open your eyes, you can see that I said the name of Saudi Arabia is not my business but I asked a question because of being curious and I expected rational people to answer it and some did.

neutrally speaking its the Persian gulf
thank you brother for saying the truth.

^^^ Im not being aggressive!! didn't you see my smiles filling my comments??!! :)
I'm just saying our country's name is none of your business!! and I have the right to say that!
again what I meant by saying Faris or AL Ahwaz,just to show you that you have the right to call it what ever you want, since it's a recognized part of Iran.

I'm sorry if I harmed your feelings by any mean :)

^^^ Im not being aggressive!! didn't you see my smiles filling my comments??!! :)
I'm just saying our country's name is none of your business!! and I have the right to say that!
again what I meant by saying Faris or AL Ahwaz,just to show you that you have the right to call it what ever you want, since it's a recognized part of Iran.

I'm sorry if I harmed your feelings by any mean :)
^^
as I said it before, It's up to saudi arabian people to decide that. you can go back and see. I was just curious and wanted to know the reason but unfortunately you misunderstood and took it as interfering in your own business which was not my intention at all. :cheers:

like in arabic countries they say it was jebra who developed Algebra while It was the Persian Mathematician "Muhammad ebne Mūsā Khwārizmī" who developed it.

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He might've been from a persian background , but he - and many others like him at the time - were highly Arabized . They took Arabic names , spoke perfect Arabic, learned in Arabic and indeed wrote their great books in Arabic .

It's like opposing calling Obama "American" , and insisting on calling him a Nigerian !

and it's not like they were forced to learn Arabic and take Arabic names ! , they did it willingly after embracing Islam and the Arabic Culture , so why are we making a problem out of nothing here ?

He might've been from a persian background , but he - and many others like him at the time - were highly Arabized . They took Arabic names , spoke perfect Arabic, learned in Arabic and indeed wrote their great books in Arabic .

It's like opposing calling Obama "American" , and insisting on calling him a Nigerian !

and it's not like they were forced to learn Arabic and take Arabic names ! , they did it willingly after embracing Islam and the Arabic Culture , so why are we making a problem out of nothing here ?

No, that's not the case. he also had persian lectures as well and he was persian. if you read newton's book principia mathematica, the language is not english and it's much closer to spanish and italian. does that mean Newton wasn't english? Arabic was the language of the Islamic scientific texts at that time and scientists wrote in that language to contribute and share their knowledge with other muslims and That's why they wrote in arabic. like now that even scientists from non-english speaking countries write their articles in english and this has nothing to do with their nationality.
but I didn't mean that. in some arabic countries they even deny this fact that the developer of Algebra was Kharazmi, It was not a person named Jebra or someone else. That was what I meant.

and I agree with you. as I said, our problems are so unimportant but still we see our people making big deal out of them and that was I meant in my post.

^^ He was a scholar in the House of Wisdom in Baghdad. He was an Abbasid citizen , he lived in Baghdad so he must've spoke Arabic all the time , we don't know where he was born , but we know that he's family is from Khwarezm (hence the family name Khwarizmi ) in modern-day Uzbekistan . We also know that his book's title is "Al-Kitāb al-mukhtaṣar fī hīsāb al-ğabr wa’l-muqābala" which is an Arabic for "The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing" , we also know that he is A muslim , a sunni one .

so . . . this how I see him : an Arabic scholar who came from a persian origin .

Nope no need to change ourcountry's name, i like it the way it its.


VIVA SAUDI ARABIAAAAAAAAAAAAA

+1, Proud Arabian is jealous because his native Yemen is nowhere near as prosperous and it hurts him. Jealousy is a bad mental depression and it eats you from the inside and i am afraid Proud Arabian suffers from it, so expect a lot of anti GCC coments from him :ohno:

^^ He was a scholar in the House of Wisdom in Baghdad. He was an Abbasid citizen , he lived in Baghdad so he must've spoke Arabic all the time , we don't know where he was born , but we know that he's family is from Khwarezm (hence the family name Khwarizmi ) in modern-day Uzbekistan . We also know that his book's title is "Al-Kitāb al-mukhtaṣar fī hīsāb al-ğabr wa’l-muqābala" which is an Arabic for "The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing" , we also know that he is A muslim , a sunni one .

so . . . this how I see him : an Arabic scholar who came from a persian origin .

^^ well I don't know about his sect to be honest as it is not important to me. but he was a persian, and a native speaker of persian. he also was fluent in arabic as well because of the reason I said. I'm fluent in english, does that mean I'm from england? he was to Baghdad for education which was something common and even in today's world it's common to go study to other countries. like europeans go to america and americans go to europe as well.

as wikipedia says:
Few details of al-Khwārizmī's life are known with certainty, even his birthplace is unsure. His name may indicate that he came from Khwarezm (Khiva), then in Greater Khorasan, which occupied the eastern part of the Greater Iran, now Xorazm Province in Uzbekistan. Abu Rayhan Biruni calls the people of Khwarizm "a branch of the Persian tree".[10]

there's no doubt that he was a muslim and he spoke arabic as well as other persian scientists. and as I told you the reason was to communicate with other muslims in scientific areas. why today chinese people write articles in english when their language has more than one billion speakers? because they want to communicate with other scientists. Omar Khayyam too spoke arabic fluently as well as he wrote books and versed in persian, Ibn-e-Sina too spoke arabic fluently as well as he wrote books in persian and he versed in the persian language and a lot of other Islamic scholars. and as I said, the language someone uses to write his scientific book has nothing to do with his nationality. also the citizenship of a person has nothing to do with his nationality as we think of Einstein as a german scientist not an american one. :cheers:

hey guys you are adding and editing with the same thing.
we want to be or to have new scientists Arabs or Persians, the most important thing muslim scientists to add them to the great history,
stop proudness of the previous ones, although they were really great.

i hope that you all got it

+1, Proud Arabian is jealous because his native Yemen is nowhere near as prosperous and it hurts him. Jealousy is a bad mental depression and it eats you from the inside and i am afraid Proud Arabian suffers from it, so expect a lot of anti GCC coments from him :ohno:

you could not be more wrong. I like Yemen the way it is, Just go see my "beauty of Yemen" post in Travel & Geaography section. We love our heritage and we dont want be westernized or americanized.

Please don't use bad words!

hey guys you are adding and editing with the same thing.
we want to be or to have new scientists Arabs or Persians, the most important thing muslim scientists to add them to the great history,
stop proudness of the previous ones, although they were really great.

i hope that you all got it

well-said. ^^

I don't really understand what went down here (and quite frankly, I don't want to) but I gathered that some people are opposed to the Saudi Government (Royal Family) which is expected from certain members. In all honesty, I'm happy that there're people who dislike the Saudi Royal Family cause it means that they're doing a good job. AND I'm very much happier to see all those members who jumped on-board to defend them which says so much about their patriotism and the good things the Royal Family has and are still accomplishing.

I don't wish to make any remarks or comments whatsoever on the previous posts since I'm not interested in being sucked into an infinite loop of arguments. All I wanted was to pay my due thanks and regards to all those who had the time, patience and dedication for such arguments!

^ just because me or some other crtisize the government doesn't mean we are jealous, you guys are getting the wrong impression. We critizise the government because with the power they have in the world, they could do so much more for the country of saudi arabia and the muslim ummah around the world. But they dont. This is main argument i have heard from people who critisize Saudi arabia. "Saudi Arabia" has done nothing for muslim ummah despite being so powerful and rich. Just look at how Jews help each other around the world, no wonder they are leaders of the world. You could have done the same, but you didn't.

but again i would be a fool to say that royal family is religious, their clearly not.

Though I do not want to get involved in this "debate". Its hard to defend Saudi Arabia at all costs.

Granted they are advancing a lot in recent years and we are seeing popular culture surface, but the main issue lies with the fact despite advancements in societies and mind sets the same jurisdiction and enforcements lay fixed.

What I mean is, Saudi could produce the worlds best cancer treatment for example, but if the news finds out some woman was stoned for having extra-marital sex well it overshadows it doesn't it?
The "special" thing here is the Saudi is usually looked down upon on news, so anything positive is just absorbed and not noticeable. And in a similar case, the UAE (specifically Dubai) so much positive news WAS done and now we have these random news stories of stoning, or imprisonment for ridiculous things. Basically, its slowly going to destroy Dubai because maybe the population is modern, but its jurisdiction and enforcement is not.

^ perfectly said

Though I do not want to get involved in this "debate". Its hard to defend Saudi Arabia at all costs.

Granted they are advancing a lot in recent years and we are seeing popular culture surface, but the main issue lies with the fact despite advancements in societies and mind sets the same jurisdiction and enforcements lay fixed.

What I mean is, Saudi could produce the worlds best cancer treatment for example, but if the news finds out some woman was stoned for having extra-marital sex well it overshadows it doesn't it?
The "special" thing here is the Saudi is usually looked down upon on news, so anything positive is just absorbed and not noticeable. And in a similar case, the UAE (specifically Dubai) so much positive news WAS done and now we have these random news stories of stoning, or imprisonment for ridiculous things. Basically, its slowly going to destroy Dubai because maybe the population is modern, but its jurisdiction and enforcement is not.


I get what you mean. But you're buying too much into the Western media.
There isn't really any stoning (or other crap ftm) in Saudi Arabia, it's almost never applied. [and I used almost -just in case-]
It's really disappointing to see a Lebanese believing everything that's being said about Saudi Arabia in the media knowing how much defamation Beirut and Lebanon get.

You got it all wrong though.. I never buy into Western media.. I dont even listen/read it!
I am Lebanese, so that gives me some first hand knowledge. My dad worked in Saudi from 25 yrs ago (stopped now) and we all lived there (not me, I wasn't born there).
My mom stayed there for three years till her and my dad were walking and they saw people gather and they went to go see what was happening, and it was a public stoning. Coming from Lebanon.. obviously we are not used to that. Nor should ANYONE be used to that. Needless to say, my mom left back to Lebanon after that event.

I have a relative in Saudi who had worked there for 5 years, until he was caught once by the religious police for not praying (he was still outdoors, so yes he did violate "law"). However on his card he is a muslim, however in reality we are Druze - a religion Saudi does not hesitate to consider kuffer.
That being said, when he was jailed they forced him to pray and answer certain questions that all muslims would generally know.. however he knew none. After being hit a few times and getting bailed out by my father he left Saudi permanently as well.

Its not a fact that its "almost never applied" its the fact it has been applied. Some rulings there are absolutely ridiculous, certain bans there are archaic and as far as I can see from Saudi tourists what they don't have in Saudi they over-exploit in Lebanon... its not a good thing.

I don't expect you to believe my personal stories, but to my knowledge, and many others, what I said is true... whatever saudi does modernize or excel in, it will only be overshadowed by its rulings... its unfortunately an undeniable fact.

^ i have heard and seen similar stories from there. I lived there for 10 years, my dad has worked there for 25 years. The justice system there is the worst of worst

I don't know if you guys are talking about another country but I never hear of such stuff and this always blows my mind. It's strange though that such stories are always being told by expats. Maybe the laws are only 'applied' on them..

I'm a Qassimi born and raised (having lived in KSA I think you would understand what that means) and the only event I've heard of was a public executing [beheading] of a serious criminal (who was a thief, a murderer and a multiple prison breaker) some six years ago.
The laws are the laws and I cannot deny that some laws are archaic and barbaric [such as the stonings] but 'again' those are rarely applied -and if they have been then it's mostly in the past (e.g. quarter a century ago as in your story)-. I agree that what matters is that they are there and that they have been applied but that doesn't mean that you should view Saudi Arabia as another Talbanic state.

It's obvious that the media will only cover the bad news about Saudi Arabia or any country for that matter. But again this does not mean that it's rightful to do so, nor does it give anybody the right to view Saudi Arabia as some 7th century barbaric state or that the improvements and achievements the Saudis are progressing with should simply be ignored.

Man.. do not worry I do not see Saudi as a talabanic state. I already stated I think Saudi life is progressing, did I not?

But I do see it as a failure in our region. In terms of technology Saudi has been putting forth a lot lately, especially de-salination plants. Also, in terms of terrorism control it has rehabillitation centers.
However, considering its wealth, its size, its resources and its religious history you would expect Saudi to be a model country, a representing nation of a major abrahamic faith - islam.
But its not. No matter what you say to convince me otherwise, it still is not. To be honest, if one country should be labeled as a model Muslim-majority country its Turkey. The religion was meant to give enlightenment, purpose and protection... not oppression, seclusion and mysteriousness.

I know no matter what I say, nor you say, we will stick to what we believe is the case. Debates like these never end up with agreements lol

One thing, I hope we can agree on is the King is a good one this time.. he is doing a lot for the country. Its just the archaic rules and regulations that he must stay within do not allow him to break Saudi out of its isolation that it has spent years creating.

^^ Hey, if that's what you want me to agree on, then we're on good terms here :)
One of the great misconceptions about Saudis (note I didn't say Saudi Arabia) is that they consider themselves 'model' Muslims but the truth is: No, we don't and we don't care about being that in the first place.
And on that I'm concluding my participation here in the "debate" as I wasn't interested in participating in the first place.

P.S
I never tried (or wanted to) convince you on anything ;)

Hi there! I'm about to accept a job in Shaqra but I have no idea of the place. I know it is 2hours away from Riyadh..Google just gave me limited options to explore. Any information about the place is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance..

^^

well, i havent been there

but i just know that is small and quiet town

if i got some info i well let u know :)

Shaqra !? How did that happen ?

@snaek, thank you very much! =)

^^

i asked one of my friends and he told me that its almost desert and has hot weather :(
and people there r kind of unsociable :(
its a same thing with any small town
but the good thing is ,its away from Riyadh to 200 km

thats all what he said

wish u like it :)

i like saudi the way it is now, what i want to see changed is just this:

1) women to drive (they will)

2) i want to see the streets in better shape

3) i want to see the government more active and less lazy

4) what iks known as "moral police" to get orginize and choose its members wizly

i don't care what non-muslims (durzi or non-durzi) say about us, saudi is not a country for non-muslims to gain extra money or be a tourest in. ur welcome to stay but it won't twist its rules just for you.

i'm Saudi from dir3yyah living in dhahran + riyadh. i have cousins who are married to american, iraqies, lebanese and they love saudi more than their own countries.

thaaanks dear

thaaanks dear




thanks for what? and for who? for spamming?

1. Woman cant drive because they are twisted ribs. Meaning they cant drive in a straight line, always diagonal. << m7shesh interpretation

2. Streets will be in better shape if they're developed and completed during King Abdullah's rule. Had it not been for him, a bridge would cost 172 million riyals to be constructed.

3. The government could be more active if we give them a good supply of Red Bull. << Just an honest suggestion

4. Moral Police shouldn't exist in the first place!!!! They suck.

I hope that sums it up for you :D

Can anyone tell me which are the TOP-100 COMPANIES in the Saudi Arabia region? (revenue wise) ; Or from where I can get that info?

Wrong place to place this thread !

1) is ARAMCO

[QUOTE=GulfArabia;65454905]Wrong place to place this thread !


Here is

http://www.the-saudi.net/business-center/saudi-top-100.htm

Hello! I have a question to ask about King Khalid International Airport, but I don't think it warrants a thread of its own, so I thought I'd ask here.

I'm flying to Bahrain in a few weeks, and depending on the day I leave, my flight may stop in Riyadh first to drop off and pick up some passengers and cargo. My question is, does KKIA have a sterile transit area to process people like me, or does everyone have to go through immigration?

Are Saudis allowed to live in compounds? Or are these only allowed for foreign nationals residing in Saudi?

^^ i used to live in one, then we built our own

Aren't compounds residential areas where the religious laws of Saudi Arabia basically do not apply?

^^they have no control inside it! it's completely isolated communities!

^^ they give some freedoms to compounds with majority Western residents.

they have control over it.

^^ they give some freedoms to compounds with majority Western residents.

they have control over it.

So do many less-conservative Saudis try to live in compounds?

Also, I am surprised that you would live in a compound Gulf. Perhaps I am incorrect, but you strike me as being of the more conservative type.

^^they have no control inside it! it's completely isolated communities!

Wow that's really interesting. It would seem to undermine the values of the more conservative elements in Saudi society, no?

since GulfArabia mentioned the he lived in one of this compounds, it seems some of it more open among others!

as i know so many compounds in jeddah do not allowe religion police to go throw ,plus you can find liqueur store in some of it!

i lived in Aramco, its like a country within a country. but its slowing integrating back to saudi since less americans are working here.
to most saudis Jeddah is a moral disaster, go to its beach compounds and u'll feel as if your in lebanon.
but most camps are nothing like that.

i lived in Aramco, its like a country within a country. but its slowing integrating back to saudi since less americans are working here.
to most saudis Jeddah is a moral disaster, go to its beach compounds and u'll feel as if your in lebanon.
but most camps are nothing like that.

Interesting. I would think that the Saudis who move into such compounds would tend to be on the liberal side, since one of the advantages of living in these communities is that they wouldn't have to worry as much about the religious police.

I would think that would be wonderful as it would save Saudis the expense of flying over to Lebanon.

BTW- what % of Saudis do you think have such a mentality (that these beach compounds in Jeddah are a moral disaster)?

Compound Life - Living and working in Saudi Arabia

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^^

Thanks for the video! It looks pretty nice! :)

And what kinds of things do Saudis like to do for fun?

^^
what ever the people around the world do ,,
it just that certain things we had to do underground :(

and nah ,, that whole " moral disaster" is very exaggerated :)

^^

Thanks for the video! It looks pretty nice! :)

And what kinds of things do Saudis like to do for fun?

^^ His next question: "Interesting, so how do liberal Saudis have fun, and where do conservatives cry? I would think that many of Saudi people especially young men may want to adopt some of the evangelical beliefs about the chosen people instead of the old values, and have fun, no? Do those Saudis inside compounds have the right to feel ashamed for what the Germans have done to the 600, I mean 6 million or 6 billion in the future? I like to collect and categorize such data and report them just for fun, I swear it's not my job, and would really like your cooporation!":lol:

^^ Now those who answer say this to themselves: "Yeah, we are answering your questions as if we didn't see the info and news you post from time to time. Does he think that we don't know what he's doing. He is asking and twisting the discussion as if he is a teacher in a kindergarden. Isn't TV and newspapers enough? Don't they have a more professional guy to spy on us. this is really frustrating!":lol:

:lol: :lol: الجزء الثاني مت ضحك وانا اقراه ^^
Btw - 3shan ts4a ma jawabt 3lih :p

Hi all,
I need information about the Islamic development bank building in Jeddah.
i am a master student and I have to submit a case study about this building after few days.
please if anyone can help with drawings and construction data I shall be more than thankful for him.
thanks alot

^^
Islamic Development Bank


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Property Owner: Islamic Development Bank
Total land area of the project: 50,000 square meters
All area is exploited
Total floor area: 42,200 square meters
Height of the building: 107 meters
Number of floors: twenty three
Consultant Supervisor: Japanese Nikken, Sekkei Company
Builders: British Taylor Woodrow International
Year of construction: 1993 A.D.
Period of construction: 32 months
The estimated cost: 400 million S.R.

An international building equipped with advanced technology, Such type of building is known as "Intelligent Buildings".

Source (http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tp/12c113/)

Thanks alot for this useful information.
If possible I need also one plan at least and sections to do the invironmental studies for the building.
I hope someone can help me here.

Thanks alot

Does anyone know the elevator market in Saudi Arabia?

hey guys you are adding and editing with the same thing.
we want to be or to have new scientists Arabs or Persians, the most important thing muslim scientists to add them to the great history,
stop proudness of the previous ones, although they were really great.

i hope that you all got it

if their arab, their only arab, but when they are persian or turk they belong to the whole muslim world? :)

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Take a look at this plz

Sobhana allah

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Does anyone know the elevator market in Saudi Arabia?

SAUDI ELEVATOR CO.LTD. (SCHINDLER)‎

TRADE NAME 4030001307

P O BOX 1150‏

ZIP CODE 21431‏‏

PHONE 1 6515244‏‏

PHONE 2 6515240

FAX 6512948‏

EMAIL secjeddah@zajil.net

Specialized Activities Elevators instalation, Escalators, Mechanical Works Contracators‎

Managing Director Eng.Mohammad Ateah Abdelqader

Source (http://www.saudi-business.com/jeddah-excelent/html/index.asp?act=di&iid=144&sct=1)
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GENERAL ELEVATORS

P.O Box 67059 Dammam 31596 - KSA

Tel : 00966 3 8054314

Fax : 00966 3 8054324

Mob : 00966 590031235

E.mail: salesmanager@gelevators.com

E.mail : aboyomna2007@yahoo.com

Source (http://www.gelevators.com/index-e.php)

Is it true that a Saudi woman is not allowed to marry from outside of her country even if the boy is muslim?

Is it true that a Saudi woman is not allowed to marry from outside of her country even if the boy is muslim?

Hi and welcome to the forums, :)

It is, well, sort of. A Saudi woman can marry a non-Saudi but she won't be able to pass Saudi citizenship onto her offspring.

Oh okay thats the exact same thing in Egypt.I guess your laws have changed recently and it should, i mean if they are going by Shariah law.In Islam its absolutely halal to marry from outside he just has to be muslim.

Our laws haven't changed. It's been this way for decades.

Not from what i heard but okay :).