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Þróndeimr
February 8th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Hasseløy Nord Høyhus
Haugesund - Norway

A proposed highrise at Hasseløy Nord in Haugesund. Project was officially launched in 2007 after Snøhetta (http://www.snoarc.no/) got the assignment of designing this new
development area. The highrise will be 102m tall with both apartments and offices. Its design is supose to be a little unique giving
Haugesund a new landmark which it needs.

Hasseløy Eiendom AS (http://www.hasseloy-eiendom.no/) togather with Arenaco (http://arenaco.no/) is the main developers and hope to start constructions in 2010/2011. With this project they hope to
build a new bridge across the Haugesund strait since the traffic will increase greately with this project according to the local politicians. This is the
5th highrise proposal for Haugesund since 2005, three have already been rejected by the city council, the two current proposals (Flotmyr Høyhus (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553284))
and Hasseløy Nord is situated on sites where Haugesund politicians say is the only two places in the city they might approve highrise
buildings.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/FlotmyrHyhus1small1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/FlotmyrHyhus1small2.jpg

IceCheese
February 8th, 2009, 10:34 PM
^^Wish we could see a better render

Ingenioren
February 8th, 2009, 10:56 PM
That's great stuff! We need more of these type development;)

Þróndeimr
February 8th, 2009, 11:34 PM
^^Wish we could see a better render

So do i, i will try to get some or we will have to wait...

This is the location of this highrise, just to get better known to Haugesund. I marked the development site of Flotmyr on the map as well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/HaugesundHighrisemap2small.jpg

mjoks007
February 9th, 2009, 12:51 AM
Your fast brodeimr. I wonder what the area will look like. I dont think Snøhetta have made good city development proposals(?) before...

kjetilab
February 9th, 2009, 02:04 AM
I think this project is too far into the future for any better renderings showing up in quite a while. But the idea to build an "urban district" sounds good.

mjoks007
February 9th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Yeah, but every projects this days is called "urban" even if theur not :(

Ingenioren
February 10th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Same render, only this one is a little bit larger, retrieved it from mir.no:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/hasseloy.jpg

Ingenioren
July 15th, 2009, 10:08 PM
http://haimg.no.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=HA&Dato=20090702&Kategori=NYHETER&Lopenr=101884140&Ref=V2&MaxW=768&title=1&NoBorder

Haugesund avis reports with the pour nimbys complaints, appearantly it is at hearing and will be at C+105 meters tall, without knowing the groundcote, brilliant vacation-journalism puts it right in there - doesn't look to be that high above sealevel tough does it? Final design is far from ready it seems.
http://www.h-avis.no/article/20090702/NYHETER/101884140#

Þróndeimr
October 27th, 2009, 03:20 PM
^^ yes, this building will be between 100m and 105m.

GlennHGSD
October 27th, 2009, 07:27 PM
it will never be built...:ohno:

Ingenioren
October 27th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Not in Denmark atleast :P

Boscorelli
October 27th, 2009, 11:35 PM
^^

No That wouldn't be right would it! ;)

Servers are long to synchronize, it may take a certain time to rework the structure, the highrise forum became "denmark" so there will be some threads in this section that will be moved later.

Þróndeimr
November 11th, 2009, 02:41 AM
06.11.2009
Innsigelser mot reguleringsplan for Hasseløy
Reguleringsplanen for det nye boligmiljøet på Hasseløy Nord er under behandling.

Fylkesutvalget i Rogaland hadde innsigelse mot planforslag til reguleringsplan for Hasseløy Nord. Blant annet innsigelse mot høyhuset. Men innsigelsen frafalles når det kan dokumenteres ingen negativ belastning for nærområdet. Det er også en forutsetning at høyhuset på Hasseløy i seg selv rommer de nødvendige bo-kvaliteter.

More: http://nyheter.radiohaugaland.no/les.aspx?artikkel=61904

Regulation plans can be found here: Haugesund Kommune Innsyn (http://innsyn.haugesund.kommune.no/Modules/innsyn.aspx?mode=mo&SelPanel=3&ObjectType=ePhorteCase&VariantType=Innsyn&ViewType=Detail&Query=ePhorteCase.ID:5717)
Regulation plan in PDF-file (http://innsyn.haugesund.kommune.no/getfile.aspx/ephdoc/?db%3DEPHORTE%26ParamCount%3D2%26UB_ID%3D9376%26SakType%3DSaksFremlegg)

This highrise well be 102m.

Spearman
November 11th, 2009, 01:38 PM
So, good news then?

Þróndeimr
November 11th, 2009, 01:48 PM
^^ we just have to wait and see i guess. But final decision coming very soon i hope?

Ingenioren
November 11th, 2009, 02:27 PM
How is this good news? I only read bad news from this article...

Þróndeimr
November 12th, 2009, 02:13 AM
^^ yep, it was a bad news, but nothing is final yet.

IceCheese
November 12th, 2009, 02:57 AM
As for how I read the article, the innsigelser mostly surrounds two main subjects:

1 How this plan legally should be treated, which is something Haugesund kommune should be able to handle (and already should've handled, obviously)

2 How the plan fits in with suburban ideals embraced by Rogaland fk. Personally I find most of the arguements as discribed by Rfk very strange. They talk about nedbygging av strandsonen in an area of dense, city-like growth, somewhere I highly doubt the law was ment to reach. The area is in no access to the public today either.
They also say that everyone living in this housing unit should have great outdoor space right outside the door, which also is not what one living in the middle of a city should expect. A park/promenade at the island should be sufficient, as Byparken is right across the bridge.
In addition they speak of forretning utenfor sentrumsområde, where I assume they're pointing towards the anti-mall plan, which I find no where relevant here, especially since this highrise probably would require all these shopping areas alone. As said, we are of course not speaking of a suburbian housing district!

So basicly no. 2 is pure BS from Rogaland fk. In my view the only obstacles for this project are the ones in no 1, so it should get a green light from me within a year:okay: I guess Rfk won't agree, and I hate to here this NIMBYism from the county where Stavanger belongs, but I guess they really hate Haugesund up there.

Þróndeimr
November 12th, 2009, 01:59 PM
^^ my thoughts exactly. You can read a proper answer from Fylkesutvalget in Rogaland here (Word document) (http://152.93.253.10/innsyn2/index.php?cmd=mdoc%20POSTKASSE%2009000005218201). (they don't have much positive to say about the plans...)

Against from local residents:
"Det kan være konfliktfylt å bygge boliger på Hasseløy nord på grunn av støy fra virksomheten på Killingøy."
"tror ikke det vil tiltrekke turister. – Det blir ikke høyt nok til at det blir fantastisk."
"– Når folk kommer til Haugesund er det gamlebyen de vil se, og naturen. Vi bør bevare mer natur i stedet for høyhus."
"– Området her er en del av det opprinnelige Haugesundet. Vi bør bevare det, ikke bygge over det."

GlennHGSD
November 12th, 2009, 03:46 PM
It's a shitty location for a highrise anyway, the best location would be near Bergen Bank Bygningrn (DNB nor 7/8 floors), and Saga Hotell.

You can see the DNb building here, as it is taller than anything in the downtown except for the church.
http://haugalandet.net/2009aug12_ik_fra_soer_5938.jpg

Þróndeimr
November 12th, 2009, 04:50 PM
It's a shitty location for a highrise anyway, the best location would be near Bergen Bank Bygningrn (DNB nor 7/8 floors), and Saga Hotell.

I am afraid it will be impossible to build a taller highrise building in the center of Haugesund. The city has a lot of older buildings. Older buildings have more friends than a highrises friends. Also that church have many powerful friends, since we still have too many christians in this country who feel that the church should always be the closest to the heaven (they think that a highrise as tall or taller than the church is the devil's work!). And then comes 'the shadow', one of the worst arguments against a highrise. A highrise will make a larger shadow obviously, and if that shadow threaten street-life, church or apartment buildings for 15min a day it will make the entire city to revolt against it! And i bet those people in Fjellvegen area will be pissed if a a highrise show up in the downtown area since it will block 0.5% of their view.

Hasseløy has the benefit if been in good distance from the church. Its shadow will only affect the sea, exept for some residents in late evening during summer. Only a few people will be affected by losing 'the view' (in my opinion, awesome highrises is great view!). However, it will cause to more traffic to the area where the highrise is situated.

But of course, Haugesund is a small city, what is the point in a taller highrise there? One argument is to build dense to make a better city (sadly, Haugesund don't really need to build that dense due to its small size). Secondly, signal towers, landmarks is good, but then it needs to be outstanding work in my opinion. Not sure if the highrise will be outstanding work yet, but i have my faith in Snøhetta. Not sure Hasseløy is the best place for a landmark either, unless its something Turning Torso big.

GlennHGSD
November 12th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Well it doesn't need highrises just yet, that's true, but it definately needs buildings up to 4-6 floors. We can't just keep on sprawling towards Sveio, and Tysvær forever. We're using valuable farmland.:bash:

Hasseløy is a bad location anyway, technically the best location would be where høyblokkene are now, the two towerblocks by the hills. I'm sure you've seen them. It wouldn't really overshadow anything, as the hills already casts a lot of shadows anyway.

Arguing against shadows, already cast by the hills right behind them is kinda stupid, right?:P

Þróndeimr
November 12th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Well it doesn't need highrises just yet, that's true, but it definately needs buildings up to 4-6 floors. We can't just keep on sprawling towards Sveio, and Tysvær forever. We're using valuable farmland.:bash:

Hasseløy is a bad location anyway, technically the best location would be where høyblokkene are now, the two towerblocks by the hills. I'm sure you've seen them. It wouldn't really overshadow anything, as the hills already casts a lot of shadows anyway.

Arguing against shadows, already cast by the hills right behind them is kinda stupid, right?:P

Yes, they are at Fjellvegen (2x13 floors) as i mentioned, they have great view over Haugesund. Building anything taller than a house in front will make them pretty upset since it blocks a part of their view.

Best place for denser and taller buildigns would be the downtown area, problem is its hard to mix it with the current old buildings and the church. But if Haugesund want to become a good city aiming to survive the future they will face building more in the downtown area sooner or later.

mjoks007
November 12th, 2009, 06:19 PM
Still much shipping there I guess, but Risøya is the great place for future developments.

GlennHGSD
November 12th, 2009, 06:29 PM
Best place for denser and taller buildigns would be the downtown area, problem is its hard to mix it with the current old buildings and the church. But if Haugesund want to become a good city aiming to survive the future they will face building more in the downtown area sooner or later.

Well you don't need to make them infront of the blocks, even just right next to them, or at similar locations all over town as long as they are infront of the hills should work.

Þróndeimr
November 12th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Well you don't need to make them infront of the blocks, even just right next to them, or at similar locations all over town as long as they are infront of the hills should work.

I am not talking about where to put the highrises, i just say it will be a problem to build a highrise on a location which is visible to anybody who have a view where else in the city. I would be totally against more ugly blocks like those in Fjellvegen anyway! :P

Þróndeimr
December 12th, 2009, 05:14 PM
Finally a larger rendering of this one too. Rendering by MIR (http://mir.no/).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/FlotmyrHyhus1Large2000.jpg

Spearman
December 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Why are almost all norwegian highrises flat and wide?

Þróndeimr
December 14th, 2009, 04:36 PM
^^ because we live in one of the world most narrow-minded countries in the world when it comes to buildings above 3 floors.

Spearman
December 15th, 2009, 06:25 PM
Perhaps. But a little more imagination would not be bad on part of those who seek to have their buildings approved.

That being said, I like this one, but I wish it had some friends.

Þróndeimr
December 30th, 2010, 01:18 AM
Seems like it was put down to 12 floors, this is what the politicians say about that.

Planprogram for Reguleringsplan for Hasseløy nordre (21.08.2010)
- Høyhus i 12 etg er i utgangspunktet ikke et godt forslag, det vil stille store krav til utforming og materialvalg for at det skal bli et kvalitetselement og ikke bare et litt ”høyt hus”. Vi ønsker at det da skal ha et godt konsept, og et reelt behov for 12 etg.

http://innsyn.haugesund.kommune.no/Modules/innsyn.aspx?mode=mo&SelPanel=3&ObjectType=ePhorteCase&VariantType=Innsyn&ViewType=Detail&Query=ePhorteCase.ID:5717

marshol
December 30th, 2010, 04:47 AM
It will be a completely different building and we can say that the proper highrise is dead. Disappointed. :(