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Yellow Fever
February 10th, 2009, 07:23 AM
Gondola planned for Burnaby Mountain



By Chris Bryan - Burnaby NewsLeader


Published: February 09, 2009 4:00 PM
Updated: February 09, 2009 5:41 PM

Burnaby Mountain could soon be home to a gondola to serve the rapidly-growing community of UniverCity.

The SFU Community Trust has put forward the estimated $68.9 million project, and is assessing the feasibility of a gondola transit system to improve reliability and travel times to and from Burnaby Mountain, and reduce the greenhouse gas emissions currently produced by the fleet of diesel buses that service the area.

The proposed "Burnaby Mountain Gondola Transit Project" would serve SFU students, faculty and staff as well as residents and businesses of UniverCity.

Because a section of the proposed gondola route would travel over the Burnaby Mountain Conservation

Area, community consultation will take place prior to decision to proceed, states a planning document from the community trust.

That said, the unique nature of gondola construction provides "flexibility for minimizing environmental impacts," it states.


Various routes under consideration


Various gondola alignments are being assessed for Burnaby Mountain. Based on initial feasibility studies,

a potential alignment is a 2.65 km route that travels from Production Way SkyTrain Station directly to the Transit Loop on the SFU campus. Travel time on this route would be approximately six minutes, a saving of at least 10 minutes from the current bus route.

One argument being forwarded in its favour is improved reliability.

On approximately 10 days each year, bus service to SFU is either severely hampered or cancelled due to weather conditions, impacting as many as 20,000 rider trips for each day of impacted service.

Loading and unloading of the Burnaby Mountain gondola would be universally accessible due to the very low speeds in the terminal buildings and a level threshold with no step, and gondola cabins would be outfitted with flip seating to accommodate wheelchairs, strollers and bikes.

Preliminary cost estimates peg the project at $68.9 million with an operating cost at $3.14 m.

A review of technology options indicates that a Tricable gondola—similar to the Peak-2-Peak Gondola in Whistler—would provide the best technical solution for the Burnaby Mountain Gondola Transit Project.

With long spans using only five towers, interference with existing infrastructure can be eliminated and disturbance of green space can be minimized.


Stay tuned to www.burnabynewsleader.com for more details.

PacificMetropolis
February 12th, 2009, 06:23 AM
This is fantastic idea. Way cheaper than any other form of transit.

This is the one in Portland:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/PortlandTramCar3.jpg/800px-PortlandTramCar3.jpg

http://www.railwaypreservation.com/vintagetrolley/Portland_Streetcar_707_17_tram_overhead.JPG

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/491521969_26bbe2c451.jpg?v=0

Yellow Fever
February 12th, 2009, 06:30 AM
^^ Nice pics.

I'm so jealous, it seems Portland has everything: Good transits system; nice freeway networks and now they have gondola.. :)


edit: And they even have two office towers over 160m.

Daguy
February 13th, 2009, 07:59 AM
^^ Nice pics.

I'm so jealous, it seems Portland has everything: Good transits system; nice freeway networks and now they have gondola.. :)


edit: And they even have two office towers over 160m.


The only thing they're missing is ridership, which may have something to do with the fact that they have much higher freeway capacity than Metro Vancouver, with 2/3 the region's population, and yet have worse congestion.

Portland's main shortcome has been generating density in the city. Without density, generating ridership for transit pretty much goes down in flames.

deasine
February 13th, 2009, 09:33 AM
http://www.railwaypreservation.com/vintagetrolley/Portland_Streetcar_707_17_tram_overhead.JPG]

Is it just me, or does this picture look unusual to you... why are the doors not parallel to the direction of the car?

Huhu
February 13th, 2009, 12:48 PM
Is a gondola a viable option capacity wise for such a busy route like SFU? What will the max ridership be and will it be enough for rush hour periods?

deasine
February 14th, 2009, 06:01 AM
Yes it is. The maximum capacities depends on how well we plan our gondola system. Whistler's newest Peak to Peak Gondola has a capacity of 2051 pphd... which is more than what the current 144 145 bus is. But we have to make sure we plan our gondola system well and make it so that it can be used properly for the years to come without having to go through any major construction and structural changes.

Der Alte
February 14th, 2009, 08:46 AM
I hope you meant the 145 bus. If all it replaces is the 144, then its not worth the time.

deasine
February 14th, 2009, 11:27 PM
I hope you meant the 145 bus. If all it replaces is the 144, then its not worth the time.

Yes... sorry about the typo.

spongeg
February 16th, 2009, 01:10 AM
Is it just me, or does this picture look unusual to you... why are the doors not parallel to the direction of the car?

what do you mean?

you got on the gondola on the outside of the gondolas

deasine
February 16th, 2009, 02:55 AM
what do you mean?

you got on the gondola on the outside of the gondolas

It was just me... I didn't realize the gondola wires were going in this direction (\) and I kept on thinking it was going in this direction (-) just ignore me HAHA.

bluemeansgo
February 17th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Me too! Great optical illusion!

spongeg
February 17th, 2009, 08:29 AM
oh yah i see what you mean

trippy