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Reptilikus
February 10th, 2009, 09:39 PM
http://imageload.dk/files/1c11cbda71a873d7121c5d97f62ebd59.jpg

A new arena will be build in Copenhagen and open in 2013.
I will be build in Orestad, a new part of Copenhagen, and have 15.000 seats.
AEG World will construct and own it, they are known for the O2 Arena in London, O2 World in Berlin, and the Color Arena in Hamburg plus many more.

The price is not publish, but AEG will get a loan of 26.000.000 Euro that is free for 30 years. In the deal with Copenhagen city council AEG promise to have 40 sports and culture events every year.

In the run up to be choosen AEG battled the Danish company Copenhagen Multiarena A/S who wanted to build a 40.000 stadium with retractable roof, that could be formed into an arena. But the city council didn't believe in the big project and found the AEG bit more realistic and stronger. Maybe because Copenhagen already have Parken, a 40.000 stadium with retractable roof.

Now the Copenhagen city council hope that the arena will host the World Cup of Handball with in 10 years.

aCidMinD81
February 10th, 2009, 10:18 PM
:drool:

Could you please post other pics?

ØlandDK
February 11th, 2009, 12:15 AM
There aren't better renderings available at the moment as far as I know.

ØlandDK
February 11th, 2009, 12:18 AM
...but this arena isn't under construction yet - shouldn't it be in another part of the forum?

A little more:
Click for full size!

http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210_5_big_thumb.png (http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210_5.png)

http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210_4_big_thumb.png (http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210_4.png)

http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210_big_thumb.png (http://peecee.dk/uploads/022009/4310210.png)

www.sercan.de
February 11th, 2009, 12:26 AM
HOK again :)

bing222
February 11th, 2009, 04:16 AM
Is it already under construction

DenverDane
February 11th, 2009, 04:22 AM
^^ No, it's not even fully approved yet (but expected to be this summer).

HolgerKøben
February 11th, 2009, 03:49 PM
http://imageload.dk/files/1c11cbda71a873d7121c5d97f62ebd59.jpg

A new arena will be build in Copenhagen and open in 2013.
I will be build in Orestad, a new part of Copenhagen, and have 15.000 seats.
AEG World will construct and own it, they are known for the O2 Arena in London, O2 World in Berlin, and the Color Arena in Hamburg plus many more.

The price is not publish, but AEG will get a loan of 26.000.000 Euro that is free for 30 years. In the deal with Copenhagen city council AEG promise to have 40 sports and culture events every year.

In the run up to be choosen AEG battled the Danish company Copenhagen Multiarena A/S who wanted to build a 40.000 stadium with retractable roof, that could be formed into an arena. But the city council didn't believe in the big project and found the AEG bit more realistic and stronger. Maybe because Copenhagen already have Parken, a 40.000 stadium with retractable roof.

Now the Copenhagen city council hope that the arena will host the World Cup of Handball with in 10 years.

Will the capacity be 15.000 for sport or 15.000 for concerts, which make a huge difference?

Bobsi
February 11th, 2009, 04:16 PM
AEG have to present a plan for the financing before 15-6-09, after that, the building can start.


Source: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Kultur/2009/02/10/133752.htm

Zichau
February 11th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Will the capacity be 15.000 for sport or 15.000 for concerts, which make a huge difference?

15000 seats. That's part of the deal.

ØlandDK
March 19th, 2009, 03:19 PM
New reenderings of the multiarena:

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/03.jpg

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/01.jpg

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/02.jpg

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/04.jpg

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/05.jpg

http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/06.jpg


...

www.sercan.de
March 19th, 2009, 03:39 PM
http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/02.jpg
vs
http://www.jsk.de/media.php/Projects/Sport_Freizeit/o2_world_Arena_berlin_02.jpg

:D

ØlandDK
March 19th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Those arenas all look the same from the inside.

www.sercan.de
March 19th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Maybe because of AEG?

GNU
March 19th, 2009, 06:46 PM
They obviously dont want to spend too much money on development costs.
Aside from that its great news.

Loranga
March 19th, 2009, 07:21 PM
http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/05.jpg

Strange to see the vomitories/exits on the same level as the suites. Thought that was a classical beginner's mistake that is eliminated from stadium/arena design since the beginning of the 90's at least.

With that design I see at least three disadvantages:

1. It reduces the amount of space for suites
2. It makes it impossible to have a separate concourse for the suite level
3. It removes the possibility to place concession stands / kiosks under/behind the stands (a pretty useful location to place them).

Anyway, hope it will be built and that it will co-host a IIHF Hockey World Championship with Malmö one day. :)

ØlandDK
March 19th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Another discussion about the interior design can be followed here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=365571&page=119

Benn
March 20th, 2009, 06:33 AM
Those arenas all look the same from the inside.

It's definitely AEG, just look at the MLS facilities they own/have owned, they build concert venues passed off as "Soccer Specific stadiums" that are so similar it hurts, and i wouldn't call the arenas they operate inspired design for the most part. Some arenas are refreshingly different, but these seem like the accountants did as much of the design work as the architects,

But the layout is practical and at least the exterior is kind of cool here.

Bobby3
March 20th, 2009, 09:39 PM
It's definitely AEG, just look at the MLS facilities they own/have owned, they build concert venues passed off as "Soccer Specific stadiums" that are so similar it hurts, and i wouldn't call the arenas they operate inspired design for the most part. Some arenas are refreshingly different, but these seem like the accountants did as much of the design work as the architects,

But the layout is practical and at least the exterior is kind of cool here.

Seriously. They change the roof some and say it's "unique".

altuzarra27
April 8th, 2009, 01:42 PM
The decision to build the 58,000 square metre arena comes after a decade that saw a number of competing plans introduced but stall. Currently, the largest arena for indoor events in Copenhagen is Parken Stadium which seats 40,000. But because it is an open air stadium with a retractable roof, it has been rejected to hold some international events.

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rschack
April 26th, 2009, 01:39 PM
It's definitely AEG, just look at the MLS facilities they own/have owned, they build concert venues passed off as "Soccer Specific stadiums" that are so similar it hurts, and i wouldn't call the arenas they operate inspired design for the most part. Some arenas are refreshingly different, but these seem like the accountants did as much of the design work as the architects,

But the layout is practical and at least the exterior is kind of cool here.

I find the design boring and not very unique.

I hoped that the Copenhagen Arena would be something like "Globen" for Stockholm. Something special and unique...

I still hope they will make something different... so it isn't going to be just another copy-paste arena.

rschack
June 22nd, 2009, 10:36 PM
Problems with financing:
http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090616/koebenhavn/90616153/

mlm
June 22nd, 2009, 11:38 PM
^^ The link was also posted in the Ørestad thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=365571&page=138) the other day. ;)

koolio
June 23rd, 2009, 10:28 PM
There is not a lot one can do to add uniqueness to an indoor arena. Can't really blame AEG for that.

rschack
August 1st, 2009, 02:03 PM
Now... which arena is this... a new project ?

http://www.regionh.dk/topmenu/Nyt_Presse/Nyheder/2009+arkiv/Arkiv/Stoette+til+begivenheder+i+multiarena.htm

mlm
August 1st, 2009, 02:16 PM
^^ Looks like it's no specific arena, but "help" for whoever will build one. So if AEG can finance their plans somehow, they will most likely get these 25 million.

Luke80
August 1st, 2009, 02:44 PM
http://bm.metropol.dk/javascriptsideshow/slideshows/Multiarena/05.jpg

Strange to see the vomitories/exits on the same level as the suites. Thought that was a classical beginner's mistake that is eliminated from stadium/arena design since the beginning of the 90's at least.

With that design I see at least three disadvantages:

1. It reduces the amount of space for suites
2. It makes it impossible to have a separate concourse for the suite level
3. It removes the possibility to place concession stands / kiosks under/behind the stands (a pretty useful location to place them).

Anyway, hope it will be built and that it will co-host a IIHF Hockey World Championship with Malmö one day. :)

But, for me at least, the whole bowl flows really well with that configuration.

JmB & Co.
August 1st, 2009, 05:09 PM
HOK again :)

Arent you bored with HOK?:lol:
I personally think that stadium style and concept imposed by HOK its very nice, but they have repeated it again and again. (Emirates, Da Luz, etc)

KingmanIII
August 1st, 2009, 05:42 PM
Arent you bored with HOK?:lol:
I personally think that stadium style and concept imposed by HOK its very nice, but they have repeated it again and again. (Emirates, Da Luz, etc)
What about Suncorp, Lansdowne Road, and the new Monterrey and Chivas stadiums?

Bobsi
September 25th, 2009, 08:55 AM
Seems to fall apart.
Multiarena tæt på at falde til jorden

25-09-09: 08:25 | af: Ritzau


De storstilede planer om at opføre en multiarena i København risikerer at falde til jorden.

Den amerikanske virksomhed AEG, som vandt retten til at bygge multiarenaen på Amager, har selv om fristen udløber den 1. oktober, stadig ikke en finansieringsplan klar.

Derfor er administrerende direktør i Københavns Kultur- og Fritidsforvaltning, Carsten Haurum, bekymret for, om projektet bliver til noget.

"Ideelt set skal AEG lægge over en milliard kroner på bordet og sige, at nu går vi i gang. Men det gør de nok ikke, for timingen med finanskrisen har været uheldig," siger Carsten Haurum til Ritzau.

AEG fik så sent som i juni udskudt fristen for en finansieringsplan. Hos Danmarks Idræts-Forbund (DIF) er man ikke begejstret for udsigten til at udskyde det yderligere.
http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-25303091.html

rschack
February 9th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Now finally some more support...

A investor:
http://www.dr.dk/Regioner/Sjaelland/Nyheder/Slagelse/2010/02/08/085809.htm

... plus according to Danish tv2. Frank Jensen says that more money will be rised/invested to finally realize the project.

And a possible club AG København, that want's to use it (rent it for regular use):
http://www.haandbold.com/nyheder.php?id=19976


The plans are still to have an arena with atleast 15.000 seats ready for 2013.

mlm
February 9th, 2010, 09:32 PM
^^ It seems very odd that Brian Mollerup says he wants to finance parts of this, and that he has spoken to both AEG and Københavns Kommune, yet it still seems as he hasn't really been negotiating with them.

It's also being discussed a bit in the Ørestad thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=365571&page=165).

rschack
February 10th, 2010, 01:06 AM
Another link...
http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-28421753.html?rss

Well people only interested in the arena, doesn't read the Ørestad Thread.
I think this is a very significant place to discuss this matter :-)

mlm
February 10th, 2010, 01:23 AM
^^ And to add to that it's also in the Danish Stadiums and Arena thread in the N&B section. :D The problem is that many of the locals don't read this section....

Anyway, that TV2 article seems strange to me. What money/arena is Frank Jensen talking about? They already "gave" AEG 200 million DKK to this Ørestad Arena, I doubt they'll add more public money for that. Money coming for an enlarged Parken arena? Who knows, I just hope they'll announce something soon...it's all getting a bit ridicules.

rschack
March 6th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Update... from the Ørestad thread:

Ready for some good news!!?


København får sin multiarena
Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania vil sammen bygge en multiarena i Ørestad med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. De tre ejere udliciterer driften af arenaen, som skal stå klar om få år.

Af Jesper Dahl Caruso

København får alligevel en multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere. Arenaen kommer til at ligge i Ørestad Syd. Den finansieres af kommunen i samarbejde med By & Havn og Realdania, mens selve driften af arenaen udliciteres.

Berlingske Tidende erfarer, at der har været afholdt tophemmelige møder mellem overborgmester Frank Jensen ( S), kultur-og fritidsborgmester Pia Allerslev ( V), By & Havns adm. dir., Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, og Realdanias adm. dir., Flemming Borreskov. Her har de tre aktører fundet frem til en finansiering af arenaen, som skal tiltrække internationale kulturoplevelser og sportsarrangementer i verdensklasse.

»Det er korrekt, at vi er tre spillere, der er blevet enige om, at vi vil gøre, hvad vi kan, for at hovedstaden får sin multiarena,« fortæller Frank Jensen.



Projekt kuldsejlet

Berlingske Tidende afslørede i sidste uge, at den internationale underholdningsgigant AEG var kuldsejlet med sine planer om at bygge en multiarena i Ørestad . Trods udsigten til et rente-og afdragsfrit lån på 200 mio. kr.

fra Københavns Kommune lykkedes det ikke for AEG at skaffe yderligere en milliard til byggeriet. Derfor har kommunen nu besluttet at trække sit lånetilbud tilbage.

Københavns Kommune, By & Havn og Realdania skal nu sammen skaffe de 1,2 mia.

kr., multiarenaen koster, men overborgmesteren vil ikke fortælle de nærmere detaljer i finansieringen. Price Waterhouse Cooper er sat til at lave en forretningsmodel, som skal være færdig allerede i denne måned.



I nær fremtid

Berlingske Tidende erfarer imidlertid, at der arbejdes efter en model, hvor kommunen konverterer sit lån på 200 mio. kr. til et indskud i det fælles ejerselskab. Realdania skyder et ukendt, men lignende millionbeløb ind, mens By & Havn stiller en attraktiv grund i Ørestad Syd til rådighed tæt på Metro, tog, motorvej og lufthavn.

Sammen vil de tre aktører låne resten af beløbet. Det er blandt andet renteudgifter til den fremmede kapital, en kommende driftherre skal dække via huslejen.

Overborgmesteren glæder sig over, at de tre aktører har kunnet finde sammen om at løfte opgaven midt under en finanskrise.

»Det er klart, at når der er en ejerkreds med de her tre investorer, så er multiarenaen rykket meget tættere på,« siger Frank Jensen.

Hvornår forventer du som overborgmester at sidde som tilskuer i multiarenaen til en international sportsbegivenhed? »Ha-ha. Det er svært at sige.

Min erfaring, fortæller mig, at man skal være forsigtig med at melde en dato ud. Store byggerier tager tid, men jeg håber at kunne sætte mig til rette i nær fremtid,« siger Frank Jensen.

Hverken By & Havn eller Realdania ønsker at kommentere Berlingske Tidendes oplysninger, før planerne er meldt offentligt ud.

car@berlingske.dk



Fakta: KAMPEN OM MULTIARENAEN

1999: Planer om en multiarena i Ørestad mellem Erhvervsministeriet og Idrætsfonden Danmark. Men planerne bliver droppet igen.

2000: Planer om en multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere i Høje-Taastrup. Projektet ventes at koste 1,2 mia. kroner og skal rumme både biografcenter, to hoteller, sportsfaciliteter, restaurationer og et butikscenter.

2001: Parken Sport & Entertainment lancerer sine egne planer om en multihal med plads til cirka 8.000 tilskuere. Hallen skal ligge klos op ad Parken.

2003: Københavns Kommune henvender sig til daværende kulturminister Brian Mikkelsen ( K) for at få staten til at engagere sig i projektet om at bygge en multiarena i København. Regeringen afviser at yde statsstøtte.

2005: Københavns daværende overborgmester Lars Engberg ( S) beder kommunens økonomiudvalg om opbakning til at få lavet en multiarena ved Bella Centret.

2006: Planerne om en multiarena i Høje-Taastrup droppes.

2007: Man begynder byggeriet til Percy Nilssons arena-projekt i Malmø, som i dag er færdigbygget. Københavns daværende overborgmester Ritt Bjerregaard ( S) giver grønt lys til Flemming Østergaards gamle planer om at udvide Parken med en multihal med plads til 4.000-5.000 tilskuere.

2008: Københavns Kommune øremærker 200 millioner kroner til en multiarena i København. Parken Sport & Entertainment meddeler, at de ønsker at købe Bella Center for at bygge en multiarena. Brøndby IF meddeler, at man skal drive H. C. Andersen-arena-projektet ved Høje-Taastrup.

2009: AEG vinder EU-udbud om retten til at bygge multiarena i Ørestad .

Februar 2010: AEG meddeler Københavns Kommune, at de ikke kan finansiere byggeriet af multiarenaen.

Marts 2010: Parken dropper sin multihal efter dundrende underskud. Københavns Kommune annullerer sit lånetilbud til AEG og går sammen med By & Havn og Realdania om at bygge multiarenaen. car Her kommer den nye multiarena med plads til 15.000 tilskuere til at ligge.

Multiarenaen.



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Well let's just wait and see. I would be suprised if they even started building in the next 2 years!

weava
March 7th, 2010, 06:13 PM
http://imageload.dk/files/1c11cbda71a873d7121c5d97f62ebd59.jpg
AEG promise to have 40 sports and culture events every year.



40 seems really low for AEG, They run the sprint center here in KC, and they have like 200 events a year and thats without a NBA or NHL team.

mlm
March 7th, 2010, 06:30 PM
^^ AEG seems to be out of this, they couldn't finance the arena. The city of Copenhagen is now trying to find another solution including themself, some national funds and loans.

RMB2007
October 2nd, 2011, 01:03 AM
:)

http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/international-construction-news/funding-approved-for-copenhagen-arena

bongo-anders
October 6th, 2011, 06:06 PM
But now the capacity seems to be 12.500 instead and 15.000 for concerts, before it was 15.000 for sports.