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serdar samanlı
February 18th, 2009, 09:23 AM
This thread is for rail lines running along the median strips of freeways. One example is Ayalon Freeway in Tel Aviv. A triple track railroad runs along the median strip the other is Attiki Odos freeway in Athens this includes Proastiakos line.

RoadUser
February 18th, 2009, 02:23 PM
I'm cross-posting this from the highways forum, since I suggested that a thread like this should be opened there. I guess opening it here is just as good, so thanks to serdar samanlı.

Looks great motorway :) the railway pass in the middle of this motorway (island)?

Yes. In fact, Rishon Lezion - Rishonim station is also between the two carriageways of Road 431:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/A431-RSLC4.jpg/800px-A431-RSLC4.jpg

We've never had a thread about railway stations in the middle of motorways here. Maybe we should.

At the moment there are 5 railway stations in the middle of Road 20, and four more being built. Two or three new stations will be built along Road 531, which is supposed to be constructed in the next couple of years.

At Paatey Modiin station, the platforms will be between the carriageways of the urban section of Road 431. Only one carriageway is open now (the other is under construction), and you have to walk via a tunnel under the road to get from the ticket hall to the platforms.

A railway line is also supposed to be built along the whole of Road 431, between Rishon Lezion and Modiin.

The final result will be something like 13-14 stations built in the center divide of motorways. Is it an Israeli pecularity, or is it common?

Glodenox
February 18th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Well, they're building one in the middle of the E19 motorway right now here in Belgium between Mechelen en Brussels. The motorway was very wide in the middle because they expected they would need to add additional "express lanes" in the middle, but later realised the bottlenecks at the entrances of both Brussels and Antwerp (and the money was lacking as well).

Some images of the construction:

http://www.mijnalbum.be/GroteFoto-WYUIPTUD-D.jpg

http://www.tomputtemans.com/images/Diabolo/Diabolo2.jpg

There's also a connection to the airport halfway the track through a tunnel:
http://www.mijnalbum.be/GroteFoto-CSL4ABOG-D.jpg

One of the parts that is going to be used to make the flyover to connect the line in the middle to an existing line

http://www.tomputtemans.com/images/Diabolo/Diabolo-lijn25-12.jpg

Greetings,
Glodenox

Wuppeltje
February 18th, 2009, 03:16 PM
In Amsterdam there is a stretch of 9 km freeway with a rail corridor between it. 2 train stations are in that section as well (Amsterdam Zuid en Amsterdam RAI). Amsterdam wants to bring 2 km of freeway and rail under the ground as can be seen on the last picture.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6410/dsc00787zrh5.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4035/img8685mp0.jpg

http://i42.************/5k0ho3.jpg

http://i40.************/23r4tno.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2166/zuidasdok2vi3.jpg

pilotos
February 18th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Attiki odos, Athens, Greece:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/2443343130_5e81b5bc42_b.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/vounisios/2443343130/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2000235700_56ac8131ef_b.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/10954843@N02/2000235700/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1289/639002628_1e24177f53_b.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/taver/639002628/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/69/187508189_6d201c2f38_o.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/ovelikios/187508189/)

kato2k8
February 18th, 2009, 04:30 PM
I can't think of any such structures in Germany - at least with heavy rail, there's plenty examples with trams, light rail, metros and such.

mgk920
February 18th, 2009, 05:37 PM
There are rail-transit lines in the medians of freeways in several metros here in the USA, including Chicago and Los Angeles.

Also, there are common-carrier freight railroads in the medians of freeways in several places in the USA, including along I-5 running north from Woodland, WA, not far north of Portland, OR
(see:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=45.928573~-122.757154&style=a&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1 )
and one in Austin, TX.

Mike

RoadUser
February 18th, 2009, 10:45 PM
I found this rather nice picture of Tel Aviv's Ayalon Freeway (Road 20) elsewhere in SkyscraperCity. You can clearly see the railway tracks down the middle, and a train:

http://i21.************/2hekpqg.jpg

Tel Aviv Hashalom Station:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/AyalonHW.jpg

davsot
February 19th, 2009, 04:36 AM
^^^^^^^^ Wow, I can imagine Better Place in Tel Aviv. Really cool highway intersection.

I dislike train stations on the freeway, but not train tracks along the freeway. I just don't see the point in getting on the highway to get off to catch a train? Unless you're headed for another city of course.... Train stations just look better within a city.

Puerto Rico will have a train running along the PR-22 freeway very soon. Hopefully, within the next decade.

metro_minotaur
February 19th, 2009, 08:58 AM
In Perth, Australia there is the Mandurah line and the Clarkson Line

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Bset.jpg

GENIUS LOCI
February 19th, 2009, 10:43 AM
I can't think of any such structures in Germany - at least with heavy rail, there's plenty examples with trams, light rail, metros and such.

Berlin West bypass got S-bahn in the middle

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/S-Bahnhof_Messe_Nord.jpg/800px-S-Bahnhof_Messe_Nord.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1107/neubaubmwog4dx0.jpg

Unsing
February 19th, 2009, 02:40 PM
Senboku Rapid Railway, Osaka

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ja/thumb/e/ea/Semboku_New-Town%2C_Sakai01.jpg/800px-Semboku_New-Town%2C_Sakai01.jpg

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Koen Toshi Line, Kobe
I couldn't find any decent pics, but Google Maps is so helpful these days.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2149/90153176nd2.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=34.888284,135.198059&panoid=sf1X00bJ69gF_kVJzpAbbA&cbp=12,304.19916230841704,,0,3.6890480987039784&ll=34.888284,135.198059&spn=0,341.564941&z=6

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2597/12412921zp6.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=34.884869,135.202939&panoid=0cntD6rDirKLyblV5TSrWA&cbp=12,321.7293685849122,,0,6.910555876109802&ll=34.884818,135.202858&spn=0,359.997489&z=19

0k-ebVyilpQ&fmt=18

Homeroids
February 25th, 2009, 11:29 AM
Some more of Perth:

Mandurah line opened Dec 2007:

http://racysrailway.com/gallery/galleries/Date/9th_November_2007/Image00061.jpg

http://racysrailway.com/gallery/galleries/Date/9th_November_2007/Image00070.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8112/image3aob0.jpg

fishcatdogbird
February 25th, 2009, 02:09 PM
^ last pic is cool!! weeeeeeeee

sequoias
February 25th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Bay area in california has BART on the median on I 580 in oakland also 680 on way to pleasanton. Theres some more on some interstates I forgot.

davsot
February 26th, 2009, 12:54 AM
You mean these :D? Posted them on the BART thread earlier:
http://www.bayrailalliance.org/files/images/BART_macarthur_oakland.jpg
http://eastbayeda.org/living_in_the_east_bay/ProfileImages%20jpg/CastroValleyBART.jpg


PS. ^^^^^^^^ Nice name Sequoias.

Kwame
February 26th, 2009, 07:17 PM
The I-105 in L.A. has a light rail going down the middle of it.

urbanfan89
February 27th, 2009, 04:20 AM
Now that we're talking about urban rail systems, this is the Toronto Subway line which runs on the Allen Expressway:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Allen_Road_from_Glencairn.jpg

sequoias
February 27th, 2009, 09:00 AM
You mean these :D? Posted them on the BART thread earlier:
http://www.bayrailalliance.org/files/images/BART_macarthur_oakland.jpg
http://eastbayeda.org/living_in_the_east_bay/ProfileImages%20jpg/CastroValleyBART.jpg


PS. ^^^^^^^^ Nice name Sequoias.

Yep yep, fine examples! Thank you! ;)

Substructure
March 2nd, 2009, 11:20 PM
Marseille, France

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Marseille/RTM_Metro_8.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/fr/metro/Marseille/RTM_Metro_9.jpg