I took these new demolition pictures of the buildings on the site of BT Tower site in Phillip Street. There has been rapid progress on demolition since my last visit at the start of the month.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p09b7d33d98d7b6506c97675d462e54e1/fd1f7052.jpg

Demolition work going on inside the buildings.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p1fef235bed54da26fe6155f86da63407/fd1f7053.jpg

Great! Bt is gonna be a good addition to Sydney's Skyline!

Demolition work on the BT site is now almost complete.
All of the existing towers have been demolished almost down to ground level.
Looks kind of weird !

You get that wierd feeling because you're used to what was there and trying to get used to it.

So that means the demolition has progressed very well.

Thats been taken down so fast!! looks like ill be spraying the model red this year rather than next year!!:D

Originally posted by CULWULLA
Thats been taken down so fast!! looks like ill be spraying the model red this year rather than next year!!:D

Damn right!! I wanna see that baby wearing red the next time I drop in!:D

If you ever want to pull down some buildings, call the guys at Metropolitan Demolitions Pty Ltd, 'cos they are right on schedule.

Also, don't forget the web site at www.126phillipstreet.com.au and the construction schedule @ BT TIMEFRAME (http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/projects/project_03.asp)

Another red building. Thats great to hear Culwulla. It is certainly boom time in the CBD at present.

I don't reckon Sydney's CBD is in boomtime, but it's getting closer to it.
It is definately awakening from a 24 month slumber and there will probably be 20 cranes on the skyline by Xmas, but I think it needs 4 or 5 more commercial projects to actually be underway ,than at present, to be booming.
This might seem like alot, but it is NOTHING compared to the shit that was going on in the late 90's !

I don't think we'll see a boom like 98-99 where there developments all over the places. The book "Above Sydney" by George Hall has photos simply littered with cranes. Anyway lets go back and see what was built and compare it to today

Angel Place
GPO Redevelopment
Citigroup
363 George St
400 George St
The Tower
Regis Towers
Darling Park 2
Le Meriden
Horden Towers
Aurora Place
Summit

Anymore to add?

Well, the comercial towers we have under construction at the moment are:

- 126 Phillip St (43,000 sq.m)
- Latitude (62,000 sq.m)
- East (21,000 sq.m)
- Civic Tower (24,000 sq.m)
- KPMG Tower @ King St Wharf (24,000 sq.m)
- Lend Lease HQ (20,000 sq.m)
- Cassia Garden (8,000 sq.m?)

So that's about 202,000 sq.m of office space under construction and indicates a very healthy construction cycle - but not a boom.

Other likely projects include:

- KENS (75,000 sq.m)
- John Boyd (55,000 sq.m)

Which would add 130,000 sq.m and take the total to 332,000 sq.m, so if we reached that stage, I would say Sydney was having an office construction boom. Add:

- Darling Park 3 (25,000 sq.m)
- Mid City Centre (40,000 sq.m)
- Kindersley House (~40,000 sq.m)

And I would say we were basically constructing far too much office space for a healthy cycle ;)

Originally posted by Fabian
I don't think we'll see a boom like 98-99 where there developments all over the places. The book "Above Sydney" by George Hall has photos simply littered with cranes. Anyway lets go back and see what was built and compare it to today

Angel Place
GPO Redevelopment
Citigroup
363 George St
400 George St
The Tower
Regis Towers
Darling Park 2
Le Meriden
Horden Towers
Aurora Place
Summit

Anymore to add?

For the 98-99 list, add:

- BNP Centre (60 Castlereagh St)
- Aurora Place (completed a little later)

Then, today:

- 126 Phillip St (office)
- Latitude (office)
- East (office)
- Civic Tower (office)
- KPMG Tower (office)
- Cassia Garden (residential and office)
- World Tower (residential)
- Cove (residential)
- Lobana Tower (residential)
- Rex (residential)

any others under construction ATM?

98 -99 leads 13 under construction to 2002-03 10. There are up to 15 buildings that could go up over the next year making it 25, so that's one heck of a boom that we could see and twice as big than 98-99.

never knew how close site was to chifley.....
is the tall end of BT going to be closer to chifley or the short end...... or will it be side on to chifley??? Anyone know?

http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/images/projects/sydneyskyline.gif

:)

The BT Tower, Chifley and Aurora are all sloping upwards, all towards the north. Wonder why this has happened? In any case, it looks good.

Well, BT Tower's slope follows the sun plane for solar access to Martin Place.

Renzo Piano designed Aurora to "talk to the Opera House", so the slope of the tower is a similar shape and direction to that of the Opera House.

Not sure about Chifley's reason though! I suppose that when Chifley was built, Aurora and BT were just twinkles in a proerty developers eye, and the design for the spire on Chifley had to go one way or the other! ;)

Also, all have spires, which are on the tallest side of each building.

Angel Place, Capita Centre's flagstaff, Arther Anderson Tower, World Tower; all seem to follow suit with their highest points to the northern side. Merchant Court Hotel @ Sydney Central Plaza doesn't follow though.

To get some perspective, BT will be 160m to roof (not to spire but the main body of the tower), 2m higher than Cove to roof and 10m higher than State Bank Tower on Martin Place. So with the added intricate spirework to 239m, this will certainly impact!! (moreso from the east, north-east).

Just to clarify- what is the height of the tower to the point where the triangular framework meets at the very top i.e where the spire begins rising ?
IMO that should be the actual height of the tower because that is the logical place where your eye stops i.e. not the top of the spire and not the roof top.

Originally posted by museumb
Angel Place, Capita Centre's flagstaff, Arther Anderson Tower, World Tower; all seem to follow suit with their highest points to the northern side. Merchant Court Hotel @ Sydney Central Plaza doesn't follow though.

To get some perspective, BT will be 160m to roof (not to spire but the main body of the tower), 2m higher than Cove to roof and 10m higher than State Bank Tower on Martin Place. So with the added intricate spirework to 239m, this will certainly impact!! (moreso from the east, north-east).

Add Chifley Tower and Aurora Place to that list.

@ spaz, its 194m

thanks mate- that's more than what I thought!

Originally posted by spazpecker
Just to clarify- what is the height of the tower to the point where the triangular framework meets at the very top i.e where the spire begins rising ?
IMO that should be the actual height of the tower because that is the logical place where your eye stops i.e. not the top of the spire and not the roof top.
spaz, the amended heights are as follows!!
height to roof-148m
height to LMR-160m
height to framework-196m
height to spires-240m
it laso has 39 floors not 34 or 31 as previously quoted.

After visiting the State Library on MacQuarie Street unitl 5.00PM (closing time) i made a slight detour down to the BT Tower site at 126 Phillip Street.

After peering through an open hole in the fence, there is now an excavator (a track hoe) on the southern edge beginning to build the foundations. It wasn't at work i.e. being operated but there was quite a lot of soil already dug.

The is excellent progess in a relatively short amount of time between the demoliton of the 3 previous 70s builidings to this stage :okay: .

Originally posted by museumb
After visiting the State Library on MacQuarie Street unitl 5.00PM (closing time) i made a slight detour down to the BT Tower site at 126 Phillip Street.

After peering through an open hole in the fence, there is now an excavator (a track hoe) on the southern edge beginning to build the foundations. It wasn't at work i.e. being operated but there was quite a lot of soil already dug.

The is excellent progess in a relatively short amount of time between the demoliton of the 3 previous 70s builidings to this stage :okay: .

Thanks for the new project report muse! :)

I read that the tower will have only two basement levels, so at least the excavation won't be a huge process, as occurred with Cove and Lobana!!

So true finn :) . i.e in regrad to Cove and Lobana.

Am I going crazy, or did Culwulla say something about modifications to the BT design that we are supposed to know about by now?

No DBM, you are not going crazy. The modifications CULWULLA mentioned was about BT Tower gaining overall height, not in regard to its foundations:

For those interested, below is the link to explain BT Tower's height gains:

BT TOWER now TALLER (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15728)

BT will sit just nicely there on the left hand side of Chifley !
Nice pics eh ?

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0157/1560157bl1039041300.jpg
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2233/1552233ml1039709437.jpg

Yes, nice crystal clear pics and BT Tower will fit very nicely into the Chifley Talls Club; along with a 112m proposed/enveloped tower for the cnr of Bent & Phillip Sts opposite Gov. "Maccas" that CULWULLA posted news of on the previous site: RICE/DAUBNEY SUBMISSION (http://www.hoogbouw.nl/OZforum/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=642).

BTW Spoke with a couple of the workmen yesterday on the site after now seeing 2 excavators busily plying away, and they mentioned the foundations are only going down about 3 metres (besides the structural load-bearing beams, pilings etc).

3 metres!:?! Not very deep for such a high tower. Couldn't possibly be for parking, unless just reserved for the CEO and cronies ;). Must be for plant rooms only.

Went past the site today and managed to get a few photos of the site. The buildings are gone, leaving a massive void in the area.

One huge void

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid43/pb56e126efd1786179eef1b1576e050e3/fcea9f25.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid43/pfb410f488a502cd0c642f6c5868852c7/fcea9f16.jpg

Lets take a peek inside

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid43/p2603dc537e98eacb6631b289a747273a/fcea9f1c.jpg

It is pretty much a large, long void ATM and the not-so-deep foundations are virtually completed. We should see a core rising out of this one relatively soon!

It's actually quite a long site indeed. This one is going to have bulk!

Isn't the foundations for this tower only one floor below the street?

This building is going to have an awesome impact on the skyline, especially from the east. It will give a whole new look to that side of the city. Is it commercial or residential ?

It's going to have a big impact on the skyline from the east, but won't be as much from other directions with the possible exception of the west where there it will have a reasonable impact.

Fabian, is it a office or residential building ?

(I'm sure Fabian won't mind me answering on his behalf). It's 101% commercial. Details on tenants, statisitics and other info. on the site already provided.

...and as mentioned, one of the on-site workers told me that most of the foundation work has only gone down 3m.

Cheers Museum, I tried going onto that sight but for me it doesn't seem to be working.

If the foundations are almost done we should start seeing a core rise by about June ?????

Decided to check the site. We will see the first pouring in April at the earliest and it should rise by the end of the year. Also the foundations go only two levels below ground.

yeah, 3m certainly doesn't sound adequate for 2 levels. It seems to be sectionalised, so probably the last main dip is 3 metres. (that sounds like one floor).

if the foundations are only 3m deep... wouldnt the building be weaker?

With the foundations, they could dig small holes into the rock and fill it up with concrete. I don't know if they do it or not to make it strong.

The reason we see so many underground levels in residential towers ie World Tower is that they need to put particular features underground such as parking. With office towers they don't need to put as much in hence less levels.

this is a great looking building ! i cant wait to c it when its finished & i am in sydney next time!;)

cheers:cheers:

lozza

BACK IN BUSINESS PEOPLE!! SITE IN FULL SWING!!

does anyone know when the foundations will be finished??

Noonos, March 2003.

Here is the link @ the BT website showing its construction schedule:

Link: http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/projects/project_03.asp

woops i forgot to look there, anywho thank muse :okay:

I didn't realise how immediatley behuind chifley it was. I dont think Tiffany's will like the racket going on. It might break the crystals! lol

just for an old comparison,heres a pic i found i took waaaaay back in 1988. Its from Menzies hotel looking down at the 14st AGC House which is the northwest cnr of BT Tower.
note-next to AGC alongBent st is the 8storey St Micheals Apartments. these were demilshed in 1988 (not long after pic) and a carpark was there for next 14years.Also across the road is the small cnr pub which is now Chifley Square.


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/179261.jpg

I tried to get photo's of the hole they are digging for the foundations and a man working on the project who was on the street stopped me from taking it:mad:. He didn't like my reason for taking them (for ozscrapers forum). I'll try again another time.

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Yeah, they don't really like people taking pics because they might show up safety issues. You should have given him an uppercut.

@ MrTall. An "uppercut" as in a Karate chop? LOL

Fabian, let me accompany you next time. Just watch 'em stop us NOT. PM me and we'll make a date. Same with the World Tower model i.e. taking it from within the sales office.

It's a date.

BTW It was a pleasure meeting you yesterday.

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Fabian, let me accompany you next time. Just watch 'em stop us NOT. PM me and we'll make a date. Same with the World Tower model i.e. taking it from within the sales office.

It's a date.

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YES, as in a knuckle sandwich.

I'll be gone if he ever spots me again!

Museumb I think it's best if you didn't come just in case anything bad happens!. Thanks for your support :), but I don't want to cause any trouble.

no one can stop you from taking a fuckin photo!! ill come next time and hold him in a headlock while you take photos!!
then we'll strip him naked and role into the foundations and throw rocks at him!!!lol and then take photos of thatttt!! and put that on the forum! mmuuuaaahhhhh!!!:D

seriously, ill go there next week and take some and if he turns up ill persuade him to let me! the council badge is like a police badge sometimes, they bend over for you !!
:bash:

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then we'll strip him naked and role into the foundations and throw rocks at him!!!lol and then take photos of thatttt!! and put that on the forum! mmuuuaaahhhhh!!!:D

seriously, ill go there next week and take some and if he turns up ill persuade him to let me! the council badge is like a police badge sometimes, they bend over for you !!
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culwulla............

....you're downright E-VIL !!!!!

lol :D

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then we'll strip him naked and role into the foundations and throw rocks at him!!!lol and then take photos of thatttt!! and put that on the forum! mmuuuaaahhhhh!!!:D

seriously, ill go there next week and take some and if he turns up ill persuade him to let me! the council badge is like a police badge sometimes, they bend over for you !!
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Very Funny. I think he deserves that for what he did.

I'll be in the CBD again in two weeks, so I'll try again then. You can come seeing your a council official and they'll listen to you.

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Fabian, i'm an old hand at this. No trouble will be caused (i don't cause trouble, only on the forum ;) ). I don't have tickets on myself, but watch and learn. I am always successful with such "business".

We'll get your pics, the right way!

I'm going back to the CBD on January 30. We'll just arrange a time and even bring Culwulla with us.

BTW Passed the BT site at around 4.45PM and there were 3 tractors and 2 concrete pumps busily plying away. Even though the foundations aren't deep, it's a long and wide site. Hope the wages are good on Saturdays.

just on new design, the twin spires now have another cross bar which extends up from the top of frame (196m) . the cross bar is 208m high. also other changes to model is in the massive open foyer there is a "pool of remeberance" type area with 3 large pools near lift s! looks fab!
the new model should be ready next week.

What are we "remembering"?

More and more, this tower's critics will sucumb.

maybe they wanna remeber when he dies..you never know ;)

ok maybe they are remebering the ugly old rundown tower that was there before...

the architecht is David Nelson and its got what seems like a mammoth floorrplate: 61x21m, and thats excluding the lift core. pretty big any way....

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Thanks for that update

I'm looking forward to viewing the new model? Are you guys doing this one?

"I'm looking forward to veiw the new model?"

fabian i dont think your very sure of yourself...

btw ive just done BT tower in my 3d model!

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Thanks for that update

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sure are! it will be finished next week!

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LOL. You mean the 3 x forgetful 70s lowrise that were there before. I only remember what they look like if i see one of Fabian's early pics of the site just as demolition was beginning.

Really, they are just low pools where you sit and contemplate and either just chill or reflect upon life in general. Similar to the one of The Forum @ St Leonards Station. Water in lobbies is known to have a calming effect on the tensions of the hurdy-gurdy world of business. http://dj.comtv.ru/smales/errrr.gif ----> :drool:

http://www.apartmentservice.com.au/img/syd-north-1b.jpg

http://www.staterail.nsw.gov.au/Rail-estate/VOLUME4/NUMBER4/stleon.gif

oh, that makes sense. although i think the tenants will be in a rush to get to those meetings. :|

I went past the site today and digging continues. On the northern side (Hunter Street) it has gone about three stories underground.

Photo's of the hole should come next week.

well i went up centrepoint today (trust me the 19$ for skytour is worth it ;)) and i saw the hole for 126phillipst. shame we didnt have a camera, but we got a 1 time use w/ panoramic shot.pretty good. I got one shot of WT etc and one of MLC, bottom to top and one of cittigroup bottom top and one of sydneys northern cbd. includes: mlc chif, aur, GPTGMT gros, cove, other stuff...harbour bridge opera house NS chatswood. so one nice shot! I also got lotts of other shots of stuff. theres still some fiilm left on it so ill go to bondijct tomorrow and take some snaps of the genoa site and of harley pl. (for cul) and of the westfeild development.

$19 to go up Centrepoint. You should of paid only $13 being a child

I hope to go up Centrepoint at the end of the year or early next year and hopefully BT is well on the rise by then.

The hole is so small for a bldg of its size! it only has 2 floors below grd! so foundations wont take that long!

maybe it was thirteen....i think the lunch was 19....

thats good to hear culwula, so we should see it rise noticeably around june??

this tower will be nteresting to watch, i mean the cores on the outside, which leaves alot more office, i tink its like 60-something....maybe im wrong..

just on more design changes to BT, the awning along Phillip st will now be removed and this leaves the 500ft sheer glass atrium wall open to look up at! also 9 lifts are placed against the glass facade which rise up to low/mid/highrise sections! so you will be able to watch the elevators rise up and down the atruims void! wow! this will be some kind of bldg!
the model is nearly completed, and will be back in city model next week!
(also on the rememberance pools, the 4 pools combined measure in total 5m wide x 46m long.) these will occupy centre of foyer.

i walked past the site today and climbed on fence and took these pix!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/179910.jpg

great view towards sydnytow and statebk!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/179918.jpg

the northwest cnr of site. The hole there is quite deep.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/179920.jpg

http://dj.comtv.ru/smales/peepwall.gif

It is a large site.

This town needs some real glass lifts. 126 keeps sounding better and better.

As you may notice in third picture, there is the deep hole I mentioned, about three stories deep.

Also I liked the view of Sydney Tower from there when I passed it on Thursday.

I hope I can get pictures next week.

Look forward to them.
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That would more than likely be the elevator pit, postioned to reach the tallest floors of the northern elevation.

Typical pit:

http://www.ci.campbell.ca.us/contentimages/heritageTheatre-constructionProgressAugust2002/images/elevator%20pit_jpg.jpg

Cool photos. This will be an excellent building the only thing I am dissapointed about is that it will block the view of Chifly tower from Elizabeth Street around where David Jones is. Chifley tower and that other glass one look excellent from that spot, with the park on the right and those buildings in the background it looks like a serious city. BT tower will wreck that. But hopefully it will be possible to atleast see part of chifly tower through the steel frame ontop of BT tower.

this is easily gonna be sydneys best tower....
:D

culwulla please dont tell me you gave someone an uppercut...lol

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Judging by the goodness of those pics I'd say Culwulla gave someone a lot more than an uppercut. I hear it wasn't pretty.
:D

I thought I would put up some comparison photos

This was the site just six months ago

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pff2a5562923c12dcbc40045132e947fa/fd8ca141.jpg

The site today (January 16 2003) and we've been rewarded with good view of Chifley.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/pa6dbf0a00a71ce623b6c13afc2f284b5/fcc53b7e.jpg

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Now i remember....

Good one Fabian!

We sure are now enjoying a nice view of Chifley Square Tower.

so much more light comes in now hey....meh at least it'll be blocked by something purdy.

heres the latest model of BT! it shows the new framework at top. and side alterations.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/180597.jpg


the extra horizontal section is evident in pic. it gives the goal posts a cross bar!!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/180598.jpg

heres a shot showing stepped down effect on the massive glass atrium on the service core on western elevation.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/01/180599.jpg

Thanks for the pics. The extra framing between the spires is definitely noticeable....kinda makes the top part of the tower look more "substantial".

WOW, the new renderings for this ICONIC tower are great. It will really make an impact at the eastern edge of the Domain Park. Does anyone know if all the 'scaffolding' on top of the tower will be illuminated at night?
The tower is really saying LOOK at ME, more so than Aurora Tower next door :)

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i was told the cage frame up top will have substantial lighting and will be a much photographed bldg at night!
:cool:

The new model was excellent and I'm impressed by the changes such as the reflective pool in the base and the bracing.

I went to the site with museumb and took some images including one from level 11 of Goodsell Building, across the road from the site. Watch out for these.

Here are those photo's that I promised

Phillip St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p03fa6166bb2834cdb95fa140c28d3f89/fcb5a036.jpg

The Deep Hole

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pdbcddfa79e322e0093f33fc7991d35ab/fcb5a005.jpg

Hunter St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p36bac097b7309d76998fd489d70f21dd/fcb5a006.jpg

And an aerial of the site from the Goodsell Building in Phillip St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p247df8c147e2cbdd744dbe9ba4d05611/fcb5a034.jpg

Top pics Fabian! Great stuff!
I am surprised how far the excavation work has progressed, it seems the site is in full swing.

Anyone know how long until the actual work on the tower begins? Ie.. concrete and stuff ;)

nice model culwulla!

wow sydney gets a building with its very own playground at the top... how id love to be swinging around on that jungly gym 200m high :D

argh no i got amend me model!

bt sounds nicer every time!:D

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Top pics Fabian! Great stuff!
I am surprised how far the excavation work has progressed, it seems the site is in full swing.

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Yeah how long until the foundations start ? And how long until we start to see it rise ??????

Even though it wont be visible everywhere this building is going to be a maaaasssive asset to the skyline. Looking at it and the buildings around it it will look like a big demonstration and exhibition of architecture itself.

Steve

Check the 126 Phillip St website if you wan't to know when it will start rising. It has the entire construction timetable.

Direct link to BT's construction schedule: http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/projects/project_03.asp

The pics turned out really well Fabian.....even the one that you took through the dirty window of the Goodsell Building.

I love the newer improved taller version of this tower. The spires will be taller than Chifley Tower's. Also has more features added, making the overall design much more interesting :yes: .

We actually tried to get one aerial of the site from Chifley from level 40, but the man didn't let us as he was dealing with a computer problem. The lady (I assume the receptionist) didn't seem to have a problem with us and was kind in asking.

Level 28 of Chifley is a vacant floor, but it seems work is being done on that floor as it resembled a construction site. These observations were made from the lifts and the website for the tower.

oh no! BTs CORE is only gonna be starting in July to September...

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I know that sux. It will be torture waiting all that time. And the thing I always worry about and still do about Worlt Tower is that the economy will go bad and everything will be kept in limbo and the buildings wont get completed. I hope the war in Iraq doesn't have an adverse influence on building here.

OMG!! i am sooo excited about this building!!!!!! this is going to be sydneys BEST building!! omgomgomgomgomg!! sucked in melbournites we are gettin THIS beauty!!! haha suckers!!!


lol :P

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>OMG!! i am sooo excited about this building!!!!!! this is going to be sydneys BEST building!! omgomgomgomgomg!! sucked in melbournites we are gettin THIS beauty!!! haha suckers!!!


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Your not wrong about that. And as I have said before look at the buildings it will be with Aurora Place, Chifly Tower, Govenor Phillip Tower. The skyline in that part of the city will be a scene from architectural digest and don't forget the opera house is not too far from that part of the city too. Another excellent feature will be the all glass building across the road from it, don't know what its called, but they will really compliment each other.

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>OMG!! i am sooo excited about this building!!!!!! this is going to be sydneys BEST building!! omgomgomgomgomg!! sucked in melbournites we are gettin THIS beauty!!! haha suckers!!!


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Your not wrong about that. And as I have said before look at the buildings it will be with Aurora Place, Chifly Tower, Govenor Phillip Tower. The skyline in that part of the city will be a scene from architectural digest and don't forget the opera house is not too far from that part of the city too. Another excellent feature will be the all glass building across the road from it, don't know what its called, but they will really compliment each other.</td></tr>
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WtW- do you mean State bank centre? its hard to believe the spires on BT Tower will tower 100metres higher than this bldg!!
http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/12/176121.jpg

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>We actually tried to get one aerial of the site from Chifley from level 40, but the man didn't let us as he was dealing with a computer problem. The lady (I assume the receptionist) didn't seem to have a problem with us and was kind in asking.
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LOL, yes but we have the correct paperwork for taking pics from there. Just a bit of red tape and Chifley's policy, that's all.

Won't be a problem. :)

Yep thats the building Culwulla I think they will look really cool together. Its also hard to believe that the spires will be as high as Chifly Tower.

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Something to look forward to. I won't miss out on much of the action as the HSC will be over soon after that!

latest news on BT's external cladding!!- its gonna be Aluminium!! Australia's first large scale bldg to have it done!
the developers werent happy with Australia's quality for the concrete panelling available! So they have cohosen Aluminium cladding will has better longevity and low maintenance! should look awesome! just look at Chrysler! van Alen decided to clad in anodised aluminium because of these factors!!

cheers

Forgive me for being stupid, but what the hell does that mean ;). What differences will that have on the building.

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>latest news on BT's external cladding!!- its gonna be Aluminium!! Australia's first large scale bldg to have it done!
the developers werent happy with Australia's quality for the concrete panelling available! So they have cohosen Aluminium cladding will has better longevity and low maintenance! should look awesome! just look at Chrysler! van Alen decided to clad in anodised aluminium because of these factors!!

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS EXCELLENT NEWS...

I think this just might be Sydneys GREATEST ever skyscraper! Alluminium KICKS ASS over concrete...

:guns1:

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it just means it will have a shiny appearance instead of mat finish concrete panelling! very futuristic!

WT will arguably pack more punch and is probably the favorite of most Sydney forumers, but this is far and away my pick.

Thanks to the aluminuim cladding, it will now be my knight in shining armour, too!

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it just means it will have a shiny appearance instead of mat finish concrete panelling! very futuristic!</td></tr>
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Ahhh.. I had a feeling that's what it all meant, but I just wanted to make sure before I got excited ;). We need a new render for this thing! It will be easily the best skyscraper in Australia in my opinion :)

i see they must have sensed that a harry building was going up so the aluminium would shine blindingly bright and make the building invisible...YAY!

Haha i love this building...I love it!! and it looks really good in my model...
:D

took this pic today!
bob the builder was hard at work


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/183184.jpg

northwest cnr- getting deep there!


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/183185.jpg

rare view of St Stephens church of 1937. Its rear wall hasnt seen sunlight for years!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/183188.jpg

The photo's are not coming up as yet, so I'll comment later on them but I'd like to say something in relation to taking photos of towers under construction which stemmed from a chat with a man who works in management in Chifley Tower.

He said that posting photo's of towers under construction may actually cause problems because they were taken without consent and therefore permission was required. I was required when I visited Chifley to state what I was taking pictures of to ensure I had their consent. This included shots of Scrapers.

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Cause problems??? wtf!only if a pic shows the builders sitting on there arses or doing something they shouldnt be doing! also i think he ment if its going to be published etc. putting them on a skyscraper forum with only us nuts looking at them for a few seconds and then filed away in cyber space.How the hell is anyone going to stop you from taking photos and putting on internet!
theres no problem!
also theres virtually no law around today to stop you from taking photos of anything!!!!!!let alone a hole in the ground!
that chifley tower guy sounds like a dil! he needs to snap out of it and get back to reality!!!
:bash: :bash:
Also fabian, its probably better if you try not to chat to builders or bldg managers as they are arrogant fux, as i know, ive met hundreds over the years!! 1 out of 10 are worth talking to!

The thing is I got Fabian BT building manager's consent to take pics of the development anytime. I thought this was understood. My gosh, what was this Chifley guy doing? Looking over your shoulder all the time?

The speed of this one is a bit of a joke. It won't be until the end of the year before we get to even see the first floor plate.

Here is one I took on Wednesday, from level 28 of Chifley Tower, looking directly below onto the site

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p43759f8f37158321b0eec9ba8e5f8147/fc9aeff2.jpg.orig.jpg

i copied your larger pic and posted the smaller version as it actually shows up!
the hole is going quite well, but we need to see some concreeeeeeeeeeeeettee!!!!!!! i see the base of the crane which is a good sign!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p43759f8f37158321b0eec9ba8e5f8147/fc9aeff2.jpg

good to see the crane starting up maybe, they'll go ahead of scheldule!

yeah i think they might be a bit ahead too!
heres this years construction schedule!

Jan - Mar 2003
excavation of the site to accommodate two basement levels in progress
Apr - Jun 2003 first concrete footings and basement structures is poured
July - Sep 2003 north and south core structures are formed
Oct - Dec 2003 tower rises out of the ground with first sighting of the floor-plate structure being formed

Jan - Mar 2004
low-rise levels of the tower take shape. Unique lift framing and structure between the cores begins construction
Apr - Jun 2004 facade installation begins as typical floors in the mid-rise continue construction
July - Sep 2004 glazing to the atrium is installed
Oct - Dec 2004 services and finishes to the tower are progressing. Podium building is completed

Jan - Mar 2005
ground plane public spaces and lift lobby are created. Architectural roof feature is constructed following the building at roof level being ‘topped out’ with the final concrete pour
Apr - Jun 2005 Deutsche Bank’s co-ordinated fitout is completed and occupation commences
July - Sep 2005 tower is completed and open for occupation

weird, bt will look crazy without the cage ontop! sorta un-complete

Culwulla, I still cannot see those photo's that you took due to SS.com experiencing problems. Are you able to temporarily host them elsewhere. I'd like to view them.

BT's CRANE IS UP!!!
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Does that mean it really is ahead if schedule ?

doubt it, but we never know

Thats good to hear.

It's on the North West Corner of the site like in the aerial?

Hard to tell at this stage and with this "evidence" if it is actually ahead of schedule - we'll have to keep an eye on the construction schedule and see if April's timeframe happens in March instead.

It is such a large site, i wouldn't be surprised if a 2nd crane is lodged.

id say it was on the south west, judging from the back of chifley, but it has the plaza which goes for a long way....so yeah north west

I took this photo today from Haymarket

http://images2.fotki.com/v19/photos/2/22045/167517/0299viewupelizabeth-vi.jpg

I still havn't been near this site for almost a year. Well overdue there I think

we sprayed the BT model in our council model RED TODAy! !
:guns1:

thats GREAT news culwulla, cant wait for this baby :banana:

quite a lot of impressive towers at this part of town!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p2667522eca06e82bd332e5da5ae15627/fc9454c2.jpg

the big 5!!!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/pfe1bd8d4421b3d6052b2a77b77ef2e5a/fc94578a.jpg

Culwalla

If a building is going to be abandoned or canselled at what stage is it more likely to happen ? For example are most buildings abandoned when they are on the foundations like BT ? I ask this because I think the economy will stuff up before BT is finished.

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LOL! i think BT is ok! They are likely to cease construction at early stage rather than late. 99% of Oz developemnts are pre-committed and very well funded! large projects like World Square in the 80's had a malaysian based finance and they went bust, thats why that stopped! i assure you all developemnts in Sydney and abound will have no worries completing there bldg. By the way, the economy wont stuff up! Sydneys going great guns!
:guns1:

That is good news to hear because every time I see BT I think there is no point in following it because it will take so long it will end up like World Square and the empty lot that citibank is currently on.

One further positive about BT is the fact that it will sit some distance south of Chifley tower - meaning that Capita Centre, behind it, will be clearly visible in the skyline when viewed from many places in the east !
This is perfect because the skyline will really look strong when viewed from that direction.
This can clearly be seen in the image below ( Capita is not shown although I think it is almost smack bang in the middle of Chifley and BT).
http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/images/projects/sydneyskyline.gif


The line up of towers along the north eastern edge will be awesome- AMP > GPT > part of GMT > Aurora > Chifley > Capita > BT > State Bank Centre.....

I think Capita will be directly behind BT as both towers are located between Martin Place and Hunter Street. Therefore, you won't be able to see it.

You're right Fab, this pic below shows that it sits right behind it ! Doh !
Capita WILL be visible from the many harbour views ( sitting in the gap between BT and Chifley) but State Bank centre then WON'T be !
I take back eveything I said...........bugger.
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Here is a picture of the previous BT model and it clearly show's Capita being blocked even though you can see tiny bit's at the top.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p707f357a53632d032703525c914e90a6/fd8ca31f.jpg

Those pictures that you posted last week Culwulla finally loaded up. Great job!

Did you actually get the OK to get into the site?

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yeah i just chatted to a couple of guys at the site entrance and asked to move in abit to take snaps of the site. they said sure but watch the trucks!lol
now you can see those pix, does this mean ss.com is back?

Still some problems. The latest problem being with the server.

I don't understand why they don't have a problem with you, but they do with me. Very discrimatory.

I was down around the site earlier today and got these pics




http://images2.fotki.com/v18/photos/2/22045/167517/0317btconstruction-vi.jpg

http://images2.fotki.com/v18/photos/2/22045/167517/0318btconstruction-vi.jpg

http://images2.fotki.com/v18/photos/2/22045/167517/0319btconstruction-vi.jpg

Cool pics. They were working on Saturday ? Still no concrete pours yet.

They always work on Saturdays. Same at World Tower.

SWT dont u read? not till around july! (for the core)

Noonos I was hoping it would be earlier.

oh well it'll be finished in alot less time then latitude! latitude took 12 years encounting!

I recently went up to level 28 of Chifley and took a picture of a view which will actually be blocked out within a year or two from now. Make use of it while it lasts.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p36d63896d010b8ad3919b2b9ba5c1cb1/fc9aefca.jpg

pix from today!

hole getting deeper!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/p65208ef40a479ee40bd57c23f30a9a35/fc7b25bc.jpg

the worker looks tiny in the pit!
it looks like the crane will rise up thru the 150m high atrium!


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Steve, I don't understand the motivation for your posts - they all consist of criticising timelines or accusing projects of falling behind "schedule" (when virtually none of us know what the official schedule is). I'm sure the forum would be interested in your opinions on the projects (designs, height, ideas for improvement) but this general impatience does not add much value and is a bit frustrating.

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yeah i tend to agree! patience is a virtue! these projects are massive and take time to develope!
:)

I'm very surprised by the depth of the hole. I wasn't expecting it to get down that deep.

The architecture of this thing will rival Aurora Place. Good to see that the State Bank centre will have a new buddy to play with instead of that ugly Westpac thing. They should of knocked that down as well and put up a CT tower.

Eispecially with the news of alluminium cladding, if this building turns out ANYTHING like it does in the renders, it will undoubtebly be the most stunning skyscraper in Australia, and even better, it is on such a prominent location in Sydney!

I am really looking forward to seeing this baby rise! Bring it on!! :guns1:

Looks like they're using a brand new crane. The one they are using at La Maison in North Sydney looks 100 years old. Apparently with BT Tower you are going to be able to see the lifts moving up and down from the outside.

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welcome to forum ! you should scroll back thru these pages, youll find alot of questions and facts about the project. yes the 9 lifts will face the west facade which is all glass. this atrium will rise an impressive 150m!
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welcome to forum ! you should scroll back thru these pages, youll find alot of questions and facts about the project. yes the 9 lifts will face the west facade which is all glass. this atrium will rise an impressive 150m!
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I will do that. This is a cool site I'd have to say the best I've seen. I used to look at Skyscrapers.com for info but this is much better. I am looking to post some pics soon but it says here that I may not post attachments. Is this because I am still new.

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welcome to forum ! you should scroll back thru these pages, youll find alot of questions and facts about the project. yes the 9 lifts will face the west facade which is all glass. this atrium will rise an impressive 150m!
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I will do that. This is a cool site I'd have to say the best I've seen. I used to look at Skyscrapers.com for info but this is much better. I am looking to post some pics soon but it says here that I may not post attachments. Is this because I am still new.</td></tr>
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First off welcome Climbing_Crane to Australia's premiere skyscraper website/forums! (plug-plug!) Anyway, if you want to post pictures up in your posts, you have to have them stored online somewhere... so then you link to them when you post. I know some people use free storage sites on the net, like imagestation. There are others. Culwulla and heaps of other guys will far more helpfull than me in that regard. Alternatively you can use the space allocated by your ISP which is usually 5-10mb.

hope that helps a bit!

I forgot to tell you climbing_crane in the World Tower thread that you can also scan those pictures as well if you have a scanner and then upload them to a free storage site such as www.imagestation.com.

Nup no scanner. I got one at work though so can use that. I was just going to get some pics on CD and go from their. I think I'll leave the pics to you guys.
Went by BT today and I didn't think the hole was all that big yet. It's quite a large site and the hole is a little deeper in the North West corner.
One other thing, why do the construction workers totally block out all possible views of alot of sites. I remember Lobana you could see the pit well but you can't see Cassia Garden at all and at BT site I find myself climbing up on concrete barriers to look over the fence.

heres a pic from today. the commencement of footings!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/187600.jpg

@climbing crane-as part of council regulations, the site must be safe and fully enclosed . Deep excavtions can invite some real fruit loops at night when they decide to scale the fence drunk etc.
BT site is as deep as it going to get , as its only 2 floors below ground. just a liitle bit more south of the site and concrete will start to pour.

What are footings? Are they those black things we can see in the picture?

http://dj.comtv.ru/smales/person/znaika.gif As the term suggests, "footing" is the portion of the foundation which transmits the load (forces of the structure) directly into the soil. They are used to spread the load over a greater area to obviously prevent or greatly reduce subsiding/settling. Similar to your own hooves distributing your weight.

Typical pit for footing, being prepared:

http://www.jwlindsay.ca/images/Construction%20Management/atboro7_small.jpg

Ideally, next apparent will be the footing beams pokin' out once the pits are dug. The footing beams are anchored into the soil at the bottom. The horizontal forces will then be distributed evenly to other footings.

http://www.mchg.mcgill.ca/mchg/pix/fig647.jpg


*Gee, the overall foundations of BT Tower are looking a lot deeper than expected.

im guessing that for the footings they would keep digging till they reach hard rock?

it seems muse knows his stuff!

@ rondell, um didnt muse say into soil?

Don't take soil literally here. I would say they were already into the bedrock there. Look at the walls of the foundations. This is not your average garden or topsoil.

Hope that clears it up.

Very interesting info about the footings. A light just shone in my head when I read the weight gets transferred into the ground.

@Cullwulla- In that pic did you have to stand on those barriers and put your camera through the barbed wire fence, and why is this 2 levels underground and other buildings like Lobana go 10 underground. Has it got to do with the type of ground, whether it's hard or soft.

yeah, i stood on barriers at northeast end of bent st. Its a great vantage point and i just lean in slightly and take shot. the BT is an office tower and will have just 2 levels of carparking. the required amount for the development (not sure how many spots). With Lobana and others like COve and WT, they are residential and have to by law-supply one carpark per unit. So 300 units= 300 carspaces. While sometimes the developer/architect opts for a "car stacker" which takes up little room and puts the cars in car spaces vertically either underground or first few levels -this happened in Georgia & the new lendlease 12storey apartments on hickson rd uc.

Heres a pic of BT Foundation slab from today!


http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/04/189407.jpg

Great photo of the foundations. I think were on track for our first concrete pour.

Well I went up to Level 32 of the Colonial building yesterday and got some fantastic shots. There's a company there called Nomura, the doors always open and there's a meeting room overlooking the site. There was no one around so I made the most of it.

Also you can gom to the mailroom on one of the mid floors and the guys there will let you in if you want a good aerial shot, but 32 is much better. Good luck.

Try and get those photo's put on a CD when you process them. I'd like to see them.

Already handed the film in. It costs more once the film has been cut. I'll see what I can do or maybe I'll just bring em along to the Cove bash. Besides I tried going into that Imagestation and it said that my "cookies" weren't enabled. Whatever that means.

I think this may have asled before but how much sq/m are in each floor plate?

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the floor plate just for the office are which is the half of bldg facing east measures 65m x 20m which = 1,300sqm of column free,service free. lift core free office space!! as you know all the services/lifts stairs etc are located on west face.

geez, this is gona be one slim lookin tower from the north and south views! Its gona be amazing to look up from the north, all the way up the 240m spire!

Made a detour this arvo to check out the site and there were a multitude of track hoes.

Also ATM the footings were covered by a huge mound of sandy-coloured dirt.

The lowest pit on the north-western pit is quite deep and had a concrete overlay.

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The spires are part of the structure, so the actual height is 240 metres.

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/images/project_media/0992/BT01.jpg

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The spires are part of the structure, so the actual height is 240 metres.

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yeah i mentioned this on anther thread to fabian. The external structural tubing system is the "Frame" of BT and with out this it would fall down! It just happens to rise above "enclosed" section being the roof and rise to 196m. This is where spires start. So im quite happy to say thats its official height is 196m high, but saying its 148m is incorrect!.

Couldn't agree more. In my book this is neither a 148m nor a 250m building. 196m is spot-on.

Checking the public notices section of the Herald today, a D/A has been applied to increase the floor to site ratio of this tower from 12.39:1 to 12.5:1

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my colleague is bldg the 4 storey bldg model at southern end of site on Phillip st. It isa separate bldg but part of BT project. It will have carpark entrance, restaurants, plant room and office. this might explain ratio dif.

I have it in a picture of the BT model.

It's the little tiny tower on your right

It should of been taller and boy it looks ugly.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p28cf2e2239f5625c1e24428a68f70ebc/fcb5a038.jpg

the model is finished now and doesnt look like that. Its now 3 storeys and thinner. It cant be taller as its the left over floor space and the BT Tower needs a carpark entrance and a place to house its plant room.

Wasn't the floor to site ratio for the small building supposed to be bigger?

Passed the site @ 5.20PM today and had a peer through the mesh and there was a track hoe (digger) busily plying away. How cool was that! :okay:

I don't think I've really checked out this thread before, but I like the design! Reminds me of Shenzhen's Development Bank Center (built 1996)

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2002/03/143785.jpg

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Was there any concrete that had been poured on the site?

@ Fabian.

Yes, there was the concrete layer in the deepest pit on the North-Western side of the site.

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this tower is only 184m to spires, while BT tower will be 240m!
but they have similar heights to roof.
Shenzhens is 144m and BT is 148m.

It will look awesome on the skyline, particularly in that part of town. That's all that matters. Just like the song. Dry sense of humour I know but deep for those select few who know what I mean.

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Well I went up to Level 32 of the Colonial building yesterday and got some fantastic shots. There's a company there called Nomura, the doors always open and there's a meeting room overlooking the site. There was no one around so I made the most of it.

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Is it just meeting rooms on the floor?

It's more like a suite. Sometimes there is a lady on reception there and other times it's deserted. Passed reception you will see the meeting room I went in. The company up there was called Nomura. Good luck.

You guys must have had lotsa rain last week because the north west side was flooded when I saw it a few days ago.

Are you saying that there is still water on the site?

On Monday it was a pool in that n/w corner.

the site had a bit of water today, but north/west cnr was fairly dry.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126btsitecore.jpg

check out -one of the blue bins was full of water!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/05/194601.jpg

The weather has not been as bad as first thought. The sun has come out at times ensuring at least some work has been able to proceed.

It's making good progress too which is great to see.

I suspect the construction of this tower is going to be unique! with the core on the side, and galss fronted elevators, we arent going to see conventional elevator cores?? Can anyone offer any insight as to how this tower will be constructed? Is it steel framed or reinforced concrete?

thanks in advance

The facade is aluminium. I suggest you read the earlier pages for interesting information.

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the tower will be reinforced concrete frame with aluminium cladding. The 150m atrium will be glass enclosed steel framed. The 6 glass lifts will rise up against the western wall of atrium!
should be most spectacular office tower in oz along with the massive KENS.
:)

I agree- this will be breathaking on completion, and it has the perfect location! I love the line of scrapers (AMP, GPT, Aurora, and Chifley) developing on the East side of the city!

Just one more question (i sound like a little school boy here) - Will the elevators be external, or will they be internal with a huge glass wall infront of them? Also, are there elevators facing out the only elevators in the tower?

Good question. Hawaii's tallest building, the 131 m First Hawaiian Center, has exposed elevators riding up a recess in the building:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2001/07/111424.jpg

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the internal glass lifts will be lined up against the west facing glass atrium wall which rises to 150m high.They face inwards but you can see them from street level also. there will also be be goods lifts in the core which is located north/west cnr of site.This core tops out at 160m.

heres a quick diagram of west elevation. it shows atrium (in blue) and lifts (dark blue). there are also many skybridges that connect lifts to floor ares on eastern side.

i hope everyone gets a better idea on BT's structural frame.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126btliftdiagram.jpg

They will be the most secnic lift rides in town.

And when it comes to sneaking up this tower, there will be no third party (insert name of company) as the lift will provide you with the views.

Thanks for that Culwulla, nice stuff!

I went to the site and got a picture of the floor plate:

http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/images/features/TypicalFloor-May022.gif

It look as if there are 17 elevators!! 9 facing outside, 7 facing the atrium and 1 service elevator. Is this correct, or am I reading it wrong?

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>Thanks for that Culwulla, nice stuff!

I went to the site and got a picture of the floor plate:

http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/images/features/TypicalFloor-May022.gif

It look as if there are 17 elevators!! 9 facing outside, 7 facing the atrium and 1 service elevator. Is this correct, or am I reading it wrong?</td></tr>
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correct a mundo! look at that floor plate! column and core free!!!
this will look magnificent.

view from Sydney Tower today!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/195744.jpg

Now understand it thansk for the Floor Plate this is going to be great office space ! And good views !

Gass lifts with a view, column free this looks to be one great scraper.

was out at kingsX this morning. this pic was taken from Elan!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/06/196791.jpg

Nothing decent to see other than a crane. Go back in a few months.

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i was just showing everyone the view from Elan. it should have a dramatic impact in a couple of years!

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p8c4bc8bf88f6992353b3054d76259385/fbc62d5a.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p66d5e49ce241d80353c8cbd0c80d54cc/fbc62cd7.jpg

Been some progress lately. From today.

wow, amazing progress there cc! core is set to rise!

Some real action taking place now. This is something I'm going to have to check out. Not long now before there the core rises above the street.

I gotta see the hole before it fills
But I like the cores
so skinny and tall
Will the floor plates rise as fast
Whats the method cof construciton going to be in this case

It's not much of a hole. Go to Beau Monde in North Sydney for a decent pit of wait a few months for Meriton Tower. Or a few more months for Aspect.....

great progress there! just a q, shouldnt the core span more of the site?

I heard the Groundbreaking Ceremony was held on Monday this week.

The core has another level or so to go before it reaches ground level. I think it was a bit premature for them to have a ceremony.

core rise! top of corebox now at street level.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/126btcorejuly8.jpg

the busy site

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/201243.jpg

Great news Culwulla. You can see another core being prepared in the 2nd pic.

Now thats progress!. Won't be long before we can see whats happening from the street with ease!.

WooHoo !!

I havn't been near the site, or this thread for that matter, for months. Things are looking great!

you can see with sydneydudes floor plate pic. the larger core and smaller core at southern end. the 16 columns for the massive floor plate are also visable !

http://www.126phillipstreet.com.au/images/features/TypicalFloor-May022.gif

I guess we will see balconies linking the core when it rises to form one long but thin core.

I walked past this site heaps, but didn't really pay much attention to it, not when the first thing I saw each morning was World Tower!!!

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They are still finalising Aspects design so it will be a bit longer.

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Alot more sites to look at than World Tower. In fact World Tower has lost alot of appeal now that it's topped out. This site will be just as good to watch grow.

It will be a while too before it becomes really visible in the skyline. Culwulla posted some months back it will start becoming visible in the skyline from level 20 - when it's nearly 60 % of the way up. It builds up the excitement a bit along with the construction of the steel framed roof and spire.

well! this will be an interesting construction; two separate cores! haven't seen that before!
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View from Sydney Tower. Sorry for the poor picture quality.

I actually walked past the site earlier and there are two cores up and are both at ground level. I also saw concrete trucks along Phillip St pouring concrete onto the site. Is a core rise imminent? I even saw a man on one of the cores from the telescope on the viewing deck of Sydney Tower.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p327eea378f0cd2d19833da792449632a/fba692c2.jpg

Passed the site late this arvo and gee, what a massive core. It's just above street level now.

There is still a lot of bedrock to be dug and dirt to be shovelled out of the way on the southern end of the site.

Originally posted by Noonos
well! this will be an interesting construction; two separate cores! haven't seen that before!
:guns1:

Just to get a little off track here, but the Commonwealth Law Courts in Adelaide, currently under construction, has 5 cores!!!

Back to 126.......

Originally posted by pikey
Just to get a little off track here, but the Commonwealth Law Courts in Adelaide, currently under construction, has 5 cores!!!

Back to 126.......

Why five cores?

Probably because all of the crims needing seperate lawyers??!!!! Cul, you told us about the 5 cores, could you shed any light as to why??

Originally posted by pikey
Probably because all of the crims needing seperate lawyers??!!!! Cul, you told us about the 5 cores, could you shed any light as to why??
i think because its such a vast developemnt plus the cores directs the people to certain parts of the complex. so each lift shaft requires its own core. makes sense.

Pic taken from Sydney Tower's observation level last Thursday @ approx 5.00PM. 126's crane is between the brown glassed Colonial Centre on Martin Place (crane adjacent on its very right side) and the Westpac Building on the cnr of Martin Place & MacQuarie Street. Check out the 126 pit too:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379sydneytower1.jpg

Museumb, have you been able to see how high the core is?

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Museumb, have you been able to see how high the core is?
well when i took a pic on 8th july the core was a floor above street, so guessing a couple above ground!

yay! umm...just a question...why have photos been from centre point? why not from st lvl?

I guess it's because people have been going up there as of late and therefore have a good view of the site.

I actually took pictures of the site when I last visited but had to delete them to acocmdate Sydney Tower photo's.

Originally posted by Noonos
yay! umm...just a question...why have photos been from centre point?Why? umm...why not? Fabian had the right answer.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p3b42bc20eb05262ad491143f636367de/fb7d05ab.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid73/p9d82a97f27726e96f3da174e5d7da8c4/fb7d037a.jpg

Went by the site today and was surprised to see concrete.

It looks like level B1 is being poured at present and the core meanwhile hasn't moved.

Its quite unusual that this tower only has 2 basement levels. You'd think theyd do what Alot of Sydney Towers do and have more basement levels for parking.