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azletexan
March 8th, 2009, 06:43 PM
I can't believe we didn't have a FW thread before now, as SRG first pointed out in the Dallas thread, but we do now. Here it be. There's a lot people don't know about Fort Worth just because we are Dallas' little sister. For example, it's a fact that we are the fastest growing major U.S. city. Also a fact that the Cultural District in FW is the 2nd largest concentration of museums in America. Our downtown, especially the Sundance Square area, is constantly hailed as one of the best downtowns in the nation. We're home to more Fortune 500 companies than any other city our size, I think 7. I also have to give a shoutout to Texas Christian University, ranked as one of the top universities in the nation. TCU has an enrollment of about 9,000 on the southside of FW.

We're also getting light rail in downtown:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2908237498_d4a4c860f0.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/3113034695_32ae0d1863.jpg

for development, first start off with West 7th, a massive mixed-use development in the Cultural District that is nearing completion.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3290790981_04d1fc53f0.jpg

There's a massive 80+ picture construction update on Fortworthology.com
http://fortworthology.com/2009/02/19/huge-80-photos-walkthrough-of-west-7th-development/

Capital Bar being built on Morton Street in the Cultural District
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3276772706_5993e046b9_o.jpg

Museum Place, massive 1,050,000 sf development at Camp Bowie and University
http://www.museumplace.com/images/bgimages/about.jpg

There's a construction update here
http://fortworthology.com/category/neighborhoods/cultural-district/

The Fort Worth Museum of Science's new home under construction
http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/v3/04-11-2007.NGL_11render.G0L24DD5Q.1.jpg

Avenue of Light monument in Lancaster Avenue, gateway to downtown
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3610/3285039788_6b2b0efe27.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3490/3309419580_15f406235e_o.jpg

The new Omni Hotel in downtown, just finished
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_3rd/FtWorthOmniRendering.jpeg

The Hamptons on Hemphill, in the near southside
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/3287383355_3e1df071c4.jpg

The Village at Camp Bowie, on the westside
http://64.37.66.136/~townsite/images/campbowieaerial.jpg

So7, big mixed-use project in the Cultural District
the residentialhttp://www.fortworth-texas-real-estate.com/images/so71.jpg
the shopshttp://fortworthology.com/blogpics/so7new1.jpg

Big construction update here
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=135223

Urban Race Street, over in Six Points
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2361/2232873886_5508460ec6.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2195703962_455b00d410.jpg

TCU construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2556233532_08daa26d7e.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2551311950_6083de0978.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2555240319_1097d0af54.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2567450617_fdc76f8eb2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/2902030716_2ec39fcb12.jpg

New development replacing the TCU Albertson's
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2929271137_9a27f28b9b.jpg

New mixed-use TCU student housing
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2930130332_2d1122e305.jpg

Gallery 1707 apartments in University Park Village
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/2899888216_c2f131906a_m.jpg

TCU Barnes & Noble (just opened)
http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/photos/2008/01/21/tcu_bookstore_t250.JPG

RON-E
March 9th, 2009, 12:25 AM
the right rail looks very promissing for a starter line

SRG
March 9th, 2009, 01:17 AM
I really like all of the stuff going on in the Cultural District. Fort Worth looks like it's doing very well, and I love Sundance Square. I've always admired the 2 unique Barnes & Nobles in Fort Worth, in Sundance Square and at the corner of University and Berry..which I think is modeled after the SMU one.

Fort Worth and Dallas are such different towns..

Dallas star
March 10th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Nice Fort Worth is a great city. Just makes me wonder what Dallas would look like if both skylines where merged. :P

ChapinUrbano
March 10th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Great, I was waiting for this thread, let me share some pics about the projects in FTW.

These are from January so, I need to update this coming week.

The Carnegie at 3rd and Taylor

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1943/fortworthjanuary2009172.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5595/fortworthjanuary2009171.jpg


The Omni Hotel


Parking Garage

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4189/fortworthjanuary2009252.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3144/fortworthjanuary2009253.jpg


The Main Tower

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2684/fortworthjanuary2009254.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9388/fortworthjanuary2009256.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6282/fortworthjanuary2009257.jpg



West 7th

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1079/fortworthjanuary2009313.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9099/fortworthjanuary2009315.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5249/fortworthjanuary2009317.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8660/fortworthjanuary2009320.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4213/fortworthjanuary2009321.jpg

ChapinUrbano
March 10th, 2009, 01:31 AM
Museum Place

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1171/fortworthjanuary2009322.jpg


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7941/fortworthjanuary2009327.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7646/fortworthjanuary2009326.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3081/fortworthjanuary2009328.jpg


Fort Worth Museum of Science and History

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8109/fortworthjanuary2009367.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7573/fortworthjanuary2009364.jpg




Ex-TCC Downtown Campus

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8122/fortworthjanuary2009072.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4528/fortworthjanuary2009074.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2622/fortworthjanuary2009082.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8290/fortworthjanuary2009087.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1439/fortworthjanuary2009090.jpg

SRG
March 10th, 2009, 03:28 AM
I love your photos of the Omni, my friend.

ChapinUrbano
March 10th, 2009, 06:49 AM
^^^^
Thanks, will have to go and take new ones, soon.

This thread needs a sticky.

Dallas star
March 13th, 2009, 02:23 AM
Nice addition of photos I really hope that this thread get stickied sometime soon.

Ganis
March 13th, 2009, 07:55 PM
What the News in FW on the T that will run from DT FW to DFW Airport and share a station with DART's Orange line?

SRG
March 13th, 2009, 09:56 PM
FW: We don't want to be connected to Dallas, ew. (just kidding, but probably something like that)

Ganis
March 14th, 2009, 05:34 AM
They already are with the TRE

ChapinUrbano
March 29th, 2009, 11:30 PM
I didnīt see a thread for the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, but since it is the same county as Fort Worth, here are some pics from yesterday Sat. March 28th.

This pic is from I-30 almost entering Arlington coming from Fort Worth.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3856/combowysstadium00178330.jpg


http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7306/combowysstadium018stitc.jpg


http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9875/combowysstadium027stitc.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9642/combowysstadium02781412.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/341/combowysstadium03081695.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1228/combowysstadium03582387.jpg

ChapinUrbano
March 30th, 2009, 01:31 AM
New Engineering building at UT Arlington

sorry about the pics, but took them from the car.



http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5557/combowysstadium00378554.jpg

Building I
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1690/combowysstadium00478626.jpg

Building II
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3230/combowysstadium00578685.jpg

TampaMike
March 30th, 2009, 02:58 AM
Sorry that I'm not from around the block here guys, but got a question. The OP says that Fort Worth has the 2nd most concentrated area for museums in the US. How is the general public's view on museums in the city? I brought up the idea of more museums and theatres in Tampa. But some have said that museums like and Aviation or Military Museum wouldn't be worth the money because museums like the Children Museum we have approved for the city attracts the children and children won't be interested in visiting art and history museums.

Sorry to probably off track this thread a little :)

ChapinUrbano
April 5th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Going through Arlington, the new bridges and exits along I-30.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7129/dallasapril200900204310.jpg



http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9007/dallasapril200900504564.jpg


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9427/dallasapril200900704617.jpg


http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2102/dallasapril200900404363.jpg

Infoman
April 5th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Fort Worth is booming, and I didn't even know it... :lol: But is in Texas so I should have known!!! :nuts:

palindrome
December 30th, 2009, 06:47 AM
How about we unsticky this thread? It's been near a year since the last post.

Ganis
December 30th, 2009, 10:15 PM
8 months is nearly a year? Thats not even a pregnancy.

DiDiDoDo
June 15th, 2010, 05:44 PM
Nice photos
Thank you!
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diablo234
February 26th, 2011, 06:07 AM
New development planned to replace outlet mall in downtown Fort Worth.

Parking and retail structure to replace former outlet mall in downtown Fort Worth
Posted Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011

By Sandra Baker

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/02/24/2875495/parking-and-retail-structure-to.html

By Sandra Baker

Dallas-based Spire Realty Group said Thursday that it plans to demolish the former outlet mall at City Place in downtown Fort Worth and replace it with a parking structure with shops and restaurants on the street level.

Spire Realty on Wednesday closed its deal to buy the 1.2-million-square-foot City Place, the former Tandy Corp. headquarters. It bought the twin, 20-story office towers and associated retail space between them, along with a parking garage to the north, under the entity Throckmorton FW, according to deed records.

The developers will also renovate One City Place, the south tower, as office space, but haven't been decided yet if that work will be done at the same time as the parking and retail structure, said Jon Ruff, Spire's vice president.

Spire Realty expects to begin work within 24 months, Ruff said.

"We've wanted to be a part of the community for some time," Ruff said. "Our plan is to be there for a long time."

The new structure will feature a "vibrant plaza" to provide cohesiveness between the two office towers, as well as capitalize on existing activity from the neighboring Sundance Square entertainment, retail and office development, Ruff said.

The previous retail space, along with its popular ice rink, was gutted several years ago.

RadioShack, formerly Tandy Corp., in 2001 sold the property to Dallas-based PNL Cos., which renamed it City Place. PNL refurbished the north office tower, which is now 82 percent leased.

The south tower, however, has been vacant since RadioShack moved out in 2005 to a new corporate campus along the Trinity River a few blocks north. PNL planned an ambitious condo project for the building, but halted those plans in 2008 in the wake of the nation's credit woes. PNL then put the property up for sale a year ago.

PNL also had planned to demolish the central retail block, intending to restore Second Street between Taylor and Throckmorton streets. Ruff said Spire's plan for retail and parking in that area does not include a through street.

Tandy Corp. built the landmark towers in 1976 and 1978. The towers, ice rink and retail area opened in sections beginning in 1976. Tarrant County bought RadioShack's Technology Center, just across Taylor Street, from City Place in 2001.

JJG
February 28th, 2011, 12:09 AM
Bout damn time we get some news for this city here...:cheers:

jonathaninATX
March 22nd, 2011, 04:17 AM
New Phyllis Tilley Memorial bridge

http://www.freese.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/project-detail/BEST%20-%20FTW1_1.jpg

now U/C

http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=808

UrbanMyth
March 22nd, 2011, 04:25 AM
New Phyllis Tilley Memorial bridge

http://www.freese.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/project-detail/BEST%20-%20FTW1_1.jpg

now U/C

http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=808

Really, really nice! :banana:

jonathaninATX
March 22nd, 2011, 07:00 AM
The Lancaster a 255-unit development that appears to be planned for the southern block in the assemblage.

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lancaster.jpg

Lancaster North a 66-unit development for the northern block.

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/northlancaster.jpg

http://fortworthology.com/

jonathaninATX
March 22nd, 2011, 07:10 AM
Kimbell Museum Expansion

http://www.artartworks.com/wp-content/gallery/museums/kimbell-art-museum-fort-worth-texas-south-view-of-the-building-design-2010-renzo-piano-architect.jpg

http://www.artartworks.com/announce/kimbell-art-museum-fort-worth-usa-unveils-the-final-design-by-renzo-piano-for-a-major-new-museum-building-4052/

JJG
March 23rd, 2011, 03:15 AM
W. 7th District

New West 7th Bridge (http://blogs.star-telegram.com/honkin_mad/2010/12/work-to-begin-on-new-w-7th-st-bridge-in-fort-worth.html)
http://www.fortworthgov.org/uploadedImages/City_News/2010_712rev/7thStreet_large.jpg

W. 7th phase II (http://fortworthology.com/2011/03/09/west-7th-phase-ii-progress-3/)

JJG
March 23rd, 2011, 03:33 AM
North Tarrant Express Project (http://www.northtarrantexpress.com/)/I-35W north and 820 expasion

http://blogs.star-telegram.com/.a/6a00d8341c2cc953ef013487d511b4970c-800wi

Videos

West Segment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DXkZ2yCLWA)
East Segment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDEEAyZSUYw&feature=related)
The way I-35W looks now (you'll see how skinny it gets once you pass downtown) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ze2znNJzFQ&feature=related)
How 820/183 looks now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCctrPuRhMA&feature=related)

JJG
March 25th, 2011, 02:47 AM
Fort Worth Midtown (http://midtownurbanvillage.com/)

(another part of the Near Southside revival)

TXForever
July 11th, 2011, 04:45 AM
Why is no one discussing this?!?


http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Home.aspx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Images/TrinityUptown/Tab1Items/ButtonImages/mapbuttons.jpg

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/concept_uptown.sflb.ashx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/concept_powerplant.sflb.ashx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/Trinity_Uptown_model.sflb.ashx

TXForever
July 12th, 2011, 11:08 PM
Bueller......Anyone.....

JJG
July 13th, 2011, 02:15 AM
Bueller......Anyone.....

It's Fort Worth. We get ignored.....:ohno:

J/k, aside, I was wondering why no one mentioned the TRV. It's in development, but no one knows how far it's going to go now.

TXForever
July 13th, 2011, 03:28 AM
Cool, thanks. Any insights on to why the delay or lack of information? Gracias.

It's Fort Worth. We get ignored.....:ohno:

J/k, aside, I was wondering why no one mentioned the TRV. It's in development, but no one knows how far it's going to go now.

JJG
July 13th, 2011, 04:01 AM
Cool, thanks. Any insights on to why the delay or lack of information? Gracias.

Guess I haven't been doin' my part.... :lol:

Dale
July 13th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Show some damn Fort Worth pride! It ain't just West Dallas!

TXForever
July 13th, 2011, 05:00 AM
Show some damn Fort Worth pride! It ain't just West Dallas!

Here Here!! :cheers1:

urbanaturalist
July 15th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Why is no one discussing this?!?


http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Home.aspx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Images/TrinityUptown/Tab1Items/ButtonImages/mapbuttons.jpg

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/concept_uptown.sflb.ashx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/concept_powerplant.sflb.ashx

http://www.trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/Common/Trinity_Uptown_model.sflb.ashx

:bow: amazing.........is that really YOU Fort Worth, TX?????

JJG
July 18th, 2011, 05:19 PM
:bow: amazing.........is that really YOU Fort Worth, TX?????

Yep. The TRV has BEEN in the works. It's just slow...

Mister Nifty
July 18th, 2011, 11:26 PM
What are all those tall things sticking up out of the ground across the Trinity River? Are they planned monuments?:)

Dale
July 19th, 2011, 12:53 AM
What are all those tall things sticking up out of the ground across the Trinity River? Are they planned monuments?:)

No, they're supertalls, in Dallas, that can be seen from Ft. Worth. :banana:

Mister Nifty
July 19th, 2011, 09:20 PM
No, they're supertalls, in Dallas, that can be seen from Ft. Worth. :banana:

Wow, that conceptualized fantasy has to go down as one of the most graphically depicted developments that will never ever get developed even in a million years. I am hugely impressed. I don't think anything in Dallas has ever been proposed like it. This even reminds me of all those pyramids that were built in Fort Worth during the mid eighties.
Could you make a three dimensional presentation of this planned development and post it? I've still got my 3-D glasses from the movie Avatar.

JJG
July 20th, 2011, 03:20 AM
Wow, that conceptualized fantasy has to go down as one of the most graphically depicted developments that will never ever get developed even in a million years. I am hugely impressed. I don't think anything in Dallas has ever been proposed like it. This even reminds me of all those pyramids that were built in Fort Worth during the mid eighties.
Could you make a three dimensional presentation of this planned development and post it? I've still got my 3-D glasses from the movie Avatar.

Well I guess that's another reason you don't see much on the Fort Worth boards. Anything we do gets crapped on....

I mean this project HAS been started already.

Dale
July 20th, 2011, 03:25 AM
I don't know why anyone would crap on Ft. Worth stuff. It's got a pretty classy downtown as far as I'm concerned.

Mister Nifty
July 20th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Well I guess that's another reason you don't see much on the Fort Worth boards. Anything we do gets crapped on....

I mean this project HAS been started already.

Sorry, I was being humorous. See, I'm the guy who sees beauty in single story buildings. You know, the nut posting in a skyscraper forum.

Mister Nifty
July 20th, 2011, 04:21 AM
I don't know why anyone would crap on Ft. Worth stuff. It's got a pretty classy downtown as far as I'm concerned.

Indeed, it is a real downtown. Many in Dallas don't think so. I get that. See, I think what is going on in the city of Fort Worth is the same thing that happened in Dallas back in the seventies and eighties. Most of the growth has happened and is expected to continue to happen in north Fort Worth just as the same thing happened in North Dallas. As that area continues to boom and mature, expect the growth to return to downtown someday.
Right now, as there is more peace and quiet in downtown Fort Worth, the ghosts have a lot of room to move around, a falling pin can hear itself drop, and the homeless have an easier time of it laying back to relax and to philosophize.

JJG
July 20th, 2011, 03:27 PM
I don't know why anyone would crap on Ft. Worth stuff. It's got a pretty classy downtown as far as I'm concerned.

I know you guys were joking back and forth, but it's history.

Either crapped on or ignored.

That's why I'm really driving for Fort Worth to get these projects. We're a bit behind alot of major cities in this country and even though our downtown area is nice, it STILL hasn't reached its full potential. There's still some eyesores and open land left...


On that note, I had the strangest dream last night (honestly) that I was in Downtown Dallas on regular day.... and it was actually vibrant and inviting. :D

Mister Nifty
July 20th, 2011, 07:46 PM
I know you guys were joking back and forth, but it's history.

Either crapped on or ignored.

That's why I'm really driving for Fort Worth to get these projects. We're a bit behind alot of major cities in this country and even though our downtown area is nice, it STILL hasn't reached its full potential. There's still some eyesores and open land left...


On that note, I had the strangest dream last night (honestly) that I was in Downtown Dallas on regular day.... and it was actually vibrant and inviting. :D

Well, the center of downtown Dallas has still to be determined. While it exists presently at the park being built over Woodall Rogers, with it becoming the new Main Street right next to the Dallas Arts district, I think it is going to be on the move in the near future yet again towards the northeast where Mc Kinney, Lemmon Avenue, and Central Expressway intersect.
So, before going to bed at night and dreaming about downtown Dallas, you need to tell yourself never to go there.
You know, in comparison to Dallas, the city of Fort Worth has always been more western. One day I'd like to ride a horse on the Trinity trails all the way from Dallas to Fort Worth so I can hitch it up at a salloon located in the historic stockyards district. I'm then going to take a stagecoach south to downtown Fort Worth so I can stay at the Omni convention center hotel, the tallest building built in the Dallas - Fort Worth area in the last twenty-five years. I'm then gonna take a taxi over to Sundance Square, avoiding the many tornadoes and dust devils that tend to swirl about the business district, so I can buy some things imported over from the port of Dallas.
Actually, I think downtown Fort Worth is cool. Perception wise, it's going to be built up in such a fashion that looks better in comparison to downtown Dallas. But the city hasn't really addressed transitional issues from the downtown area into the medical district located to the south.
See, that is where the city of Dallas has been lucky. The concentration of revitalizing downtown Dallas hasn't been on the core urban area, but more on the surrounding areas to it.
If the city of Fort Worth was smart, it would go full throttle using that method. Don't do anything to the downtown area at all. Instead, develop all the surrounding areas to the extent that the downtown area becomes a vacuum for development.
At the same time, the city of Fort Worth shouldn't compete with other parts of the city for the sake of the downtown area. If people would rather shop at a place that has been developed using private funds, the city shouldn't compete with such areas using public funds.
See, that is what the city of Dallas does. It's city hall is run by lunatics, maniacs, and folks who couldn't find lollipops if you stuck them in their mouths.

JJG
July 21st, 2011, 03:18 PM
Well, the center of downtown Dallas has still to be determined. While it exists presently at the park being built over Woodall Rogers, with it becoming the new Main Street right next to the Dallas Arts district, I think it is going to be on the move in the near future yet again towards the northeast where Mc Kinney, Lemmon Avenue, and Central Expressway intersect.
So, before going to bed at night and dreaming about downtown Dallas, you need to tell yourself never to go there.
You know, in comparison to Dallas, the city of Fort Worth has always been more western. One day I'd like to ride a horse on the Trinity trails all the way from Dallas to Fort Worth so I can hitch it up at a salloon located in the historic stockyards district. I'm then going to take a stagecoach south to downtown Fort Worth so I can stay at the Omni convention center hotel, the tallest building built in the Dallas - Fort Worth area in the last twenty-five years. I'm then gonna take a taxi over to Sundance Square, avoiding the many tornadoes and dust devils that tend to swirl about the business district, so I can buy some things imported over from the port of Dallas.
Actually, I think downtown Fort Worth is cool. Perception wise, it's going to be built up in such a fashion that looks better in comparison to downtown Dallas. But the city hasn't really addressed transitional issues from the downtown area into the medical district located to the south.
See, that is where the city of Dallas has been lucky. The concentration of revitalizing downtown Dallas hasn't been on the core urban area, but more on the surrounding areas to it.
If the city of Fort Worth was smart, it would go full throttle using that method. Don't do anything to the downtown area at all. Instead, develop all the surrounding areas to the extent that the downtown area becomes a vacuum for development.
At the same time, the city of Fort Worth shouldn't compete with other parts of the city for the sake of the downtown area. If people would rather shop at a place that has been developed using private funds, the city shouldn't compete with such areas using public funds.
See, that is what the city of Dallas does. It's city hall is run by lunatics, maniacs, and folks who couldn't find lollipops if you stuck them in their mouths.

Downtown Dallas will be back eventually. But they have work to do.

Fort Worth on the other hand really, REALLY needs to get light rail. More emphasis on transportation. I mean, we had a subway at one point.... it only went about half a mile, but it still counts.

I'd also like to see more mid/high rise development on the west side of downtown and more skyscrapers on the east side. I know Sundance Square has plans to actually turn the centerpiece into a square and not two parking spaces on each side of Main Street. As a mater of fact:

Sundance Square re-development (http://fortworthology.com/2011/05/25/sundance-square-plaza-project-inches-forward-may-include-two-to-three-new-buildings/)
http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ssmasterplan1-500x244.jpg
Old pic, but you get the idea.

Mister Nifty
July 21st, 2011, 03:54 PM
Downtown Dallas will be back eventually. But they have work to do.

Fort Worth on the other hand really, REALLY needs to get light rail. More emphasis on transportation. I mean, we had a subway at one point.... it only went about half a mile, but it still counts.

I'd also like to see more mid/high rise development on the west side of downtown and more skyscrapers on the east side. I know Sundance Square has plans to actually turn the centerpiece into a square and not two parking spaces on each side of Main Street. As a mater of fact:

Sundance Square re-development (http://fortworthology.com/2011/05/25/sundance-square-plaza-project-inches-forward-may-include-two-to-three-new-buildings/)
http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ssmasterplan1-500x244.jpg
Old pic, but you get the idea.

http://youtu.be/91WSES_Z1nU
The best skyline is west of Fort Worth and it is located around Possum Kingdom Lake. It is kind of black and charred right now, to be sure. But it will soon return to paradise again nonetheless.

TXForever
August 1st, 2011, 04:40 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/blog/morning_call/2011/07/fw-officials-look-at-downtown-to-allianc.html

FW officials look at downtown-to-Alliance light rail system
Dallas Business Journal - by Lance Murray , Digital Content Producer
Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 6:19am CDT - Last Modified: Friday, July 29, 2011, 6:35am CDT

A commuter rail system from downtown Fort Worth to the Alliance area in the far north section of the city is being pitched by some city officials.
The Keller Citizen reported that Council member Jungus Jordan said the rail system is a high priority, citing mobility as the city's top tool for economic development and job growth.
The Alliance area sits, in great part, along the heavily-congested Interstate 35W corridor and is home to the AllianceTexas business development and Alliance Airport. Thousands of workers head into the area daily.
Jungus said the project is in the preliminary stages.

JJG
September 8th, 2011, 06:37 AM
W. 7th District

New West 7th Bridge (http://blogs.star-telegram.com/honkin_mad/2010/12/work-to-begin-on-new-w-7th-st-bridge-in-fort-worth.html)
http://www.fortworthgov.org/uploadedImages/City_News/2010_712rev/7thStreet_large.jpg

W. 7th phase II (http://fortworthology.com/2011/03/09/west-7th-phase-ii-progress-3/)

^^^ The bridge above will be come as soon as the current West 7th bridge is demolished in 2013.

http://blogs.star-telegram.com/politex/2011/08/fort-worths-west-7th-street-bridge-to-be-torn-down-in-july-2013.html

diablo234
November 4th, 2011, 07:40 AM
http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/11/03/16/51/CSVsz.St.58.jpg

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/11/03/16/45/nnjue.St.58.jpg

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/11/03/16/39/dcWo0.St.58.jpg

Fort Worth's Sundance Square to construct two office buildings next year
Posted Thursday, Nov. 03, 2011
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/03/3498572/fort-worths-sundance-square-to.html#my-headlines-default

Sundance Square will begin construction on two boutique-style office buildings next spring that will frame a long-planned central plaza on Main Street in the heart of downtown Fort Worth.

A third office building, at the southeast corner of Third and Throckmorton streets, will be built after the first two are completed. That building will also include a penthouse floor of loft apartments and the floor will be connected to the adjoining Sanger Lofts Building.

......


..

JJG
November 4th, 2011, 07:31 PM
^^^^^^^^ Beat me to it.... and I'm actually glad to say that.

Looks good.

zaphod
November 6th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Those are awesome! About time that hole on main got filled.

I like how they seem to get the traditional look right, while at least part of the second building has a modern bit of facade to remind people they are new additions.

WesTexas
November 7th, 2011, 12:39 AM
Downtown Fort Worth needs a park

JJG
November 7th, 2011, 06:41 AM
Downtown Fort Worth needs a park

Water Gardens (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=fort%20worth%20water%20gardens#page=2)
Burnett Park (http://www.dfwi.org/what-we-offer/attractions/parks/124-Burnett-Park)
Heritage Park (http://www.durangotexas.com/eyesontexas/fortworth/heritagepark.htm) (curently closed)
Trinity Park (http://fortworthtexas.gov/uploadedFiles/Planning/My_Urban_Village/10%20Trinity%20Park.pdf)

.... it's not so much parks that we need because we already have a few in and around downtown. It's a TRUE plaza that's missing.

desertpunk
December 14th, 2011, 05:35 AM
Pegasus News (http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2011/nov/04/sundance-square-fort-worth-add-three-new-buildings/)


Friday, November 4, 2011
Sundance Square in Fort Worth to add three new buildings

http://pegasusnews.com/media/img/photos/2011/11/04/thumbs/sundancebuildings-1-640x334.jpg.728x520_q85.jpg

Big news from Sundance Square today: The district will be constructing not one, not two, but three new buildings soon, adding new office space, residential units, and ground-floor retail space.

There’s a lot to get to, so let’s begin. A new six-story building (top right) will be constructed along 3rd Street between Throckmorton and Houston. This building will be more than 99,000 square feet and feature 12,196 square feet of ground-floor retail space and 12,187 square feet of top-floor residential space. The middle floors of the building will be Class A office space.

The six luxury residential units on the sixth floor will be linked to the Sanger Lofts and feature one- and two-bedroom units, floor-to-ceiling glass walls, and outdoor terraces.

The building’s design incorporates three facades. The portion at 3rd & Houston is inspired by turn-of-the-last-century Chicago architecture and features large window bays in granite, limestone, and plaster. On the Throckmorton facade, inspiration instead comes from early 20th century Scandinavian architecture and uses horizontal ribbon windows. A more modern metal-and-glass facade will link the two. The small existing building on the corner that currently houses Saviano’s (and was previously Zippy’s American Diner) will be demolished for this new building.

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/sundancebuildings-4.jpg

Next up is this building, running along Houston Street between 3rd and 4th. This building will also be a Class A office building and stand six stories, and will be over 93,000 square feet, including 12,393 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

The building’s design takes inspiration from several historic downtown Fort Worth Art Deco structures, including the Blackstone Hotel and the Western Union Building. The facade will be granite, limestone, brick, and aluminum. The building will be adjacent to the existing Jett Building at 3rd & Main, which will be preserved. It will replace half the existing surface parking lot on the site.

[...]

JJG
December 14th, 2011, 07:45 AM
^^ ...kinda late on that one.

TexasBoi
December 14th, 2011, 10:21 PM
How's the trinity river project going?

JJG
December 15th, 2011, 12:11 AM
How's the trinity river project going?

Still goin'.

The TCC part of it is finished. I say that because there's a new design for the overall project. I don't have a pic, but give me a week.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319231_2175331956286_1636466644_2187946_1355269061_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378428_2537994862632_1636466644_2387905_1141411719_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/375356_2537996182665_1484397340_n.jpg

Funding for the bridges (http://www.trinityrivervision.org/NewsAndInfo/11-10-21/Granger_Price_Jordan_Announce_Funding_For_Trinity_Uptown_Bridges.aspx)have new designs and $15 million has been secured for them. Construction is supposed to start next year.

There's also a new modern roundabout design included.

Here's the latest in this pdf (http://trinityrivervision.org/Libraries/PDFDocuments/Winter2011newsletter.sflb.ashx)

desertpunk
December 15th, 2011, 12:45 AM
^^

That looks great! Thanks for posting! :)

desertpunk
December 15th, 2011, 12:46 AM
^^ ...kinda late on that one.

I know. I just wanted an excuse to post the renders! ;)

JJG
December 15th, 2011, 08:23 PM
I know. I just wanted an excuse to post the renders! ;)

Understandable. I love lookin' at em myself.

Mister Nifty
December 16th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Downtown Fort Worth needs a park

If the city of Fort Worth would concentrate on transitioning the surrounding eight square miles around what is the square mile of the downtown core, then the downtown core would become a vacuum for development. In this way the city interferes as little as possible in development.
To me, the way the city invests in the downtown area directly is waste of motion, time, and tax payer money.
Get out of the people's business. Stop making them throw a fresbee over here and throw a ball for a dog to retreive over there. Instead, this type of obscessive over management always leads to a mugger beating some poor sap over here and a hooded gangster robbing an unsuspecting drunkard over there.

JJG
December 16th, 2011, 07:35 PM
If the city of Fort Worth would concentrate on transitioning the surrounding eight square miles around what is the square mile of the downtown core, then the downtown core would become a vacuum for development. In this way the city interferes as little as possible in development.
To me, the way the city invests in the downtown area directly is waste of motion, time, and tax payer money.
Get out of the people's business. Stop making them throw a fresbee over here and throw a ball for a dog to retreive over there. Instead, this type of obscessive over management always leads to a mugger beating some poor sap over here and a hooded gangster robbing an unsuspecting drunkard over there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw


Um, ok....?

JJG
December 20th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Plans for City Place/2nd street redevelopment.

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/12/19/21/41/xntxX.St.58.jpg

Mister Nifty
December 21st, 2011, 02:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfAm38GPsGw


Um, ok....?

Using the central Dallas area as an example, development is planned in the eight square miles surrounding downtown. Think about the transitions? Central Expressway was built below grade connecting Uptown to Neareast Dallas. In that area, a light rail subway was built while the shell of another exists further to the north/northeast to be completed sometime in the future. Katy Trail was built to mirror the already classic Turtle Creek area. Uptown Dallas is connected to downtown by way of a below grade freeway with a park built on top of it.
Four light rail lines help transition these areas into downtown as well.
Even better, the three medical centers will all be connected by rail. Methodist will have a trolly, Baylor will have a light rail line, and Southwestern will have both a commuter and light rail lines connecting it.
The Dallas Design District is well developed. So much so it has already taken off in becoming, what many believe, is the next Uptown.
If the city of Dallas would only concentrate on transitioning the downtown area better into south and east Dallas, then downtown itself will become a vacuum for development.

JJG
December 21st, 2011, 04:45 AM
Using the central Dallas area as an example, development is planned in the eight square miles surrounding downtown. Think about the transitions? Central Expressway was built below grade connecting Uptown to Neareast Dallas. In that area, a light rail subway was built while the shell of another exists further to the north/northeast to be completed sometime in the future. Katy Trail was built to mirror the already classic Turtle Creek area. Uptown Dallas is connected to downtown by way of a below grade freeway with a park built on top of it.
Four light rail lines help transition these areas into downtown as well.
Even better, the three medical centers will all be connected by rail. Methodist will have a trolly, Baylor will have a light rail line, and Southwestern will have both a commuter and light rail lines connecting it.
The Dallas Design District is well developed. So much so it has already taken off in becoming, what many believe, is the next Uptown.
If the city of Dallas would only concentrate on transitioning the downtown area better into south and east Dallas, then downtown itself will become a vacuum for development.

Ok, just that first sentence alone loses credibility.:lol:

Downtown FW is fine and Uptown is on the way, with no highway in between. Actually look at everything FW has and has in plan. All we really need is rail. Everything else is comin...

jonathaninATX
December 21st, 2011, 08:55 AM
West 7th Phase III Breaks Ground

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-126-PM.jpg

The previously-announced new loft & retail component of the West 7th development is now officially underway. Cypress Equities broke ground last week on Phase III of their remarkably successful development, beginning construction on 96 additional loft apartments and 32,000 square feet of new ground-floor retail space. As seen above, site prep work is already well underway.


http://fortworthology.com/2011/12/20/west-7th-phase-iii-breaks-ground/

JJG
December 21st, 2011, 06:07 PM
Oncor Building ground floor retail conversion.

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-106-PM.jpg >>> http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-500-PM.jpg

JJG
December 22nd, 2011, 06:52 PM
West 7th development

Museum Place addition (http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12/21/3611574/construction-begins-on-addition.html)

http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2011/12/21/20/59/Xmwzo.St.58.jpg

Foch St. Warehouses

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-136-PM.jpg
http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-544-PM.jpg

Bike racks

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/wpid-Photo-Dec-18-2011-129-PM.jpg

Mister Nifty
December 28th, 2011, 02:45 AM
Ok, just that first sentence alone loses credibility.:lol:

Downtown FW is fine and Uptown is on the way, with no highway in between. Actually look at everything FW has and has in plan. All we really need is rail. Everything else is comin...

Okay. Let me give you an example to relate to. Bruce Lee, the anamoly of martial arts (in that I think he was greater than any master), practiced and taught a kind of Kung Fu created for women. It was extremely economical as one never defended, but every defensive move was used going forward as an offensive one.
My point is that neither the cities of Dallas or Fort Worth needs to waste their time investing in their downtowns. By creating transitions to make sure the surrounding areas (eight square miles) are constantly under development, this leaves a vacuum. In other words, a ghetto isn't going to ever develop in the downtown areas as long as efforts are being made to transition the other eight square miles into it and into each other.
This is what Dallas is up to with its "360" plan. What it can't seem to quit doing is messing with the downtown area.
Don't worry about the Westend District as long as it is surrounded by Victory Park, the Dallas Design District, and the Dallas Arts District. Leaders just can't keep from obscessing over every little detail. Let it come along slowly. Grow like a plant. That kind of thing.
When impatient city leaders go around uprooting everything that looks like an old warehouse, everything starts to die.
Using Houston as an example, it isn't that it doesn't get development around downtown. Think about it this way. 1) Economic recessions happen from time to time. 2) Economic recessions in development serve as indicators as they devide eras into the prior old and the new stuff. 3) Without the city helping out with transitions, developers won't be willing to risk venturing into a development long term because of economic recessions.
This is what has happened in Houston. The area of development in Midtown Houston has been going on for some thirty years now not as a result of outgrowth from the downtown area, but because of the unobstructed area from the Montrose area to the north.

JJG
December 28th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Okay. Let me give you an example to relate to. Bruce Lee, the anamoly of martial arts (in that I think he was greater than any master), practiced and taught a kind of Kung Fu created for women. It was extremely economical as one never defended, but every defensive move was used going forward as an offensive one.
My point is that neither the cities of Dallas or Fort Worth needs to waste their time investing in their downtowns. By creating transitions to make sure the surrounding areas (eight square miles) are constantly under development, this leaves a vacuum. In other words, a ghetto isn't going to ever develop in the downtown areas as long as efforts are being made to transition the other eight square miles into it and into each other.
This is what Dallas is up to with its "360" plan. What it can't seem to quit doing is messing with the downtown area.
Don't worry about the Westend District as long as it is surrounded by Victory Park, the Dallas Design District, and the Dallas Arts District. Leaders just can't keep from obscessing over every little detail. Let it come along slowly. Grow like a plant. That kind of thing.
When impatient city leaders go around uprooting everything that looks like an old warehouse, everything starts to die.
Using Houston as an example, it isn't that it doesn't get development around downtown. Think about it this way. 1) Economic recessions happen from time to time. 2) Economic recessions in development serve as indicators as they devide eras into the prior old and the new stuff. 3) Without the city helping out with transitions, developers won't be willing to risk venturing into a development long term because of economic recessions.
This is what has happened in Houston. The area of development in Midtown Houston has been going on for some thirty years now not as a result of outgrowth from the downtown area, but because of the unobstructed area from the Montrose area to the north.

:ohno:

Fort Worth has one of the best downtown areas in the country right now. They've had the neccessary plans and timing to build what it has now and continue building and shaping downtown to its full potential. Even with the current economic issues, this city has managed to STILL keep building with small changes (for certain projects) and fewer stops.

Plus, you really need to stop with the comparisons. Fort Worth is NOT Dallas or Houston.

And if you want to talk about the 8 mile radius around downtown... here ya go:

Fort Worth Urban Villages (http://fortworthtexas.gov/planninganddevelopment/urbanvillages/)

Downtown Fort Worth is one of the best things about the entire Metroplex and only getting better. I really don't think your 'insight' is needed.

Eddard Stark
December 28th, 2011, 04:58 AM
Hi everyone, I am a yearly visitor (from Italy) of Fort Worth. I have seen there is a great construction project for a toll highway crossing the city, could you tell me more about it? just a curiosity.

Let me add that I find FW downtown a very attractive place, and in general the city is constantly getting better since the first time I come (2002)

Any suggestion for things to do/see this week in the metroplex? sorry to use you as travelling guides :)

JJG
December 28th, 2011, 09:44 PM
Hi everyone, I am a yearly visitor (from Italy) of Fort Worth. I have seen there is a great construction project for a toll highway crossing the city, could you tell me more about it? just a curiosity.

Let me add that I find FW downtown a very attractive place, and in general the city is constantly getting better since the first time I come (2002)
Any suggestion for things to do/see this week in the metroplex? sorry to use you as travelling guides :)

^^ See that, Nifty? Fort Worth's doin' fine...

Actually, there's more than just one toll going up in Fort Worth.

The Chisholm Trail Parkway (http://www.ntta.org/AboutUs/Projects/ChisholmTrailParkway.htm)runs from the small town of Granbury, through Southwest Fort Worth, and ends close to Downtown.

Then there is the North I-35W project (http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/TxDOT-looks-to-tolls-to-widen-I-35W-105234213.html)that will widen that part of the highway and give you the option of riding a toll or staying in the freeway part of it.

And there's another part of Fort Worth that will see a widening of highway. The north loop of I-820 will ease traffic in that part of Fort Worth and H-E-B and Hwy 183. (http://www.northtarrantexpress.com/) This isn't a toll, but it's much needed.

You can get all the info you need by just clicking the names of those projects above. Much more that I could give. And I'm glad you like our hometown. :)

Mister Nifty
December 29th, 2011, 01:21 AM
^^ See that, Nifty? Fort Worth's doin' fine...

Actually, there's more than just one toll going up in Fort Worth.

The Chisholm Trail Parkway (http://www.ntta.org/AboutUs/Projects/ChisholmTrailParkway.htm)runs from the small town of Granbury, through Southwest Fort Worth, and ends close to Downtown.

Then there is the North I-35W project (http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/TxDOT-looks-to-tolls-to-widen-I-35W-105234213.html)that will widen that part of the highway and give you the option of riding a toll or staying in the freeway part of it.

And there's another part of Fort Worth that will see a widening of highway. The north loop of I-820 will ease traffic in that part of Fort Worth and H-E-B and Hwy 183. (http://www.northtarrantexpress.com/) This isn't a toll, but it's much needed.

You can get all the info you need by just clicking the names of those projects above. Much more that I could give. And I'm glad you like our hometown. :)

You don't have to sell me on Fort Worth. Northern Fort Worth may very well be the best place in the world to invest. If Texas is expanding its manufacturing, Fort Worth is the leading reason why.
You know, the situation today is so bad that the whole world's economy is crap. In other words, Fort Worth - Dallas is the best of the crap today. The way I see it, the Houston economy is going to have to cool off or else the whole world's economy is going to be flushed down the toilet.
So, look for lots more investment in the more diversified economy of the Dallas - Fort Worth area.
Once again, I'm not contrasting Fort Worth to Dallas but comparing them in order to show that each has a common problem of wasting money on their downtowns to the detriment of the whole inner core.

TXForever
January 18th, 2012, 11:30 PM
Design of Brewed Coffee Pub on Magnolia Revealed

January 18, 2012 at 11:50 am | Architecture & Urban Design, Urban Development | Tags: Architecture, Brewed Coffee Pub, Magnolia Village, Near Southside, Retail, Shop Local, The Village On Magnolia, urban design

The final design of BREWED Coffee Pub at Magnolia & Travis has been revealed, and it’s an incredibly striking upgrade to what is, at present, an awful old ’70s concrete box. The design, by Boothe Architects, will transform the building with a newer and livelier facade (including a glass wall at one end along Magnolia and a prominent street entrance) and an elaborate rear patio with fire pits...

http://fortworthology.com/

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AjdBFCACMAECSsi.jpg-large.jpeg

http://fortworthology.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AjdBfAJCIAAc6wU.jpg-large.jpeg

JJG
February 3rd, 2012, 07:29 AM
Trinity River Vision building heights and new map.

Building Heights (http://www.trinityrivervision.org/docs/PDFDocuments/ZoneMap17x13.pdf)

New Trinity River Vision Map (http://www.trinityrivervision.org/docs/pdfdocuments/trva-trinity-uptown.pdf)

Both pdf's

JJG
February 3rd, 2012, 07:55 PM
Better yet, here's the new map as a pic:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416915_2876882614614_1636466644_2525058_1489992237_n.jpg

WesTexas
February 6th, 2012, 07:28 PM
I have never seen a timeline for when all that will be built. I also would like to see a step by step, year by year process for how this will happen.

JJG
February 6th, 2012, 11:11 PM
I have never seen a timeline for when all that will be built. I also would like to see a step by step, year by year process for how this will happen.

I can't find the timeline anywhere now. But from what I've seen, the new water way setup is supposed to be finished by 2015. The West 7th Bridge will be replaced starting 2013.

So far, the only thing about this entire project that is complete is the TCC.

Jim856796
February 9th, 2012, 01:02 AM
The Fort Worth Convention Centre originally consisted of an indoor arena, an exhibition hall, and a theatre. There is a redevelopment and expansion programme for the Convention Centre. In 2000, the theatre was torn down to make room for Phase 1 (exhibition space and a ballroom above it). Phase 2 was the addition of meeting rooms to the west side. A possible third phase may include demolition of the arena and the east exhibit hall and the addition of more exhibition space and a second ballroom. The only portion remaining when the expansion programme is complete will be the original exhibition hall. If the expansion is complete, will the original exhibit hall's ceiling be raised or will a second floor of exhibition space be added between the two ballrooms?

JJG
February 9th, 2012, 08:03 AM
The Fort Worth Convention Centre originally consisted of an indoor arena, an exhibition hall, and a theatre. There is a redevelopment and expansion programme for the Convention Centre. In 2000, the theatre was torn down to make room for Phase 1 (exhibition space and a ballroom above it). Phase 2 was the addition of meeting rooms to the west side. A possible third phase may include demolition of the arena and the east exhibit hall and the addition of more exhibition space and a second ballroom. The only portion remaining when the expansion programme is complete will be the original exhibition hall. If the expansion is complete, will the original exhibit hall's ceiling be raised or will a second floor of exhibition space be added between the two ballrooms?

The original exibit hall will be torn down to straighten out Commerce Street.... some day. Already know about the demolision and replacement of the arena. God KNOWS that should have been gone a while a go.
It's not even big enough for Arena Football. Even WWE didn't want to come back.

But as for any more expansion, I doubt we see anymore than that.

Jim856796
February 9th, 2012, 11:16 PM
The original exhibit hall opened in 1968 along with the arena, and the east exhibits hall (which is basically a strip attached to the main hall to the east) was added in 1983 and that is the portion being torn down for the straightening-out of Commerce Street. You want to see proof of this, use aerial imagery. That's what I get for trying to keep my posts short and sweet.

JJG
February 10th, 2012, 12:11 AM
The original exhibit hall opened in 1968 along with the arena, and the east exhibits hall (which is basically a strip attached to the main hall to the east) was added in 1983 and that is the portion being torn down for the straightening-out of Commerce Street. You want to see proof of this, use aerial imagery. That's what I get for trying to keep my posts short and sweet.

...yeah, I know what you're talking about.