View Full Version : Which MRT station should be renamed?
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 06:06 AM 1. Dover. the working name Singapore Polytechnic is definitely more appropriate because it serves mainly the students there. Furthermore, Dover estate is a distance fr the station.
2. City Hall. the building is a not within sight fr the station and none of the exit is facing it. gotta make a U turn to get there. suggestion: St Andrew's Cathedral. it is afterall historical building. if religious building is sensitive (btw, Novena is named after Novena Church), Padang or War Memorial Park seem better.
3. Clarke Quay, when it is located at Boat Quay? I know nowadays ppl reference to boat quay will oni mean those part to the east of south bridge road... but 2 get 2 clarke quay fr the station, really gotta walk a big detour... Suggestion? can't think of any besides Boat Quay as i m not very familiar wif the history of the area... think there is something call the new market, cf lau par sat, in the area previously rite?
4. Tanjong Pagar. this station is just like naming the library in Hougang New Town.. Cheng San Community Library... wat else can i say... :nuts:
Kit January 16th, 2004, 06:14 AM 1. Don't you think "Singapore Polytechnic station" is a tad too long? Dover estate is not that far away either.
2. Same thing, "St Andrew's Cathedral station".... quite a mouthful isn't it? City Hall is one of the most significant venue around in the area.
3. Don't know. No comment.
4. Don't see anything wrong with naming the station after the location it sits on.
huaiwei January 16th, 2004, 07:47 AM 1. I agree with Kit. What happens if Singapore Poly decides to rename itself in future? You have to rename the train station names too? I dont usually like station names that are taken from buildings (or even from street names sometimes). City Hall is about the only one I can accept.
2. I dont agree on St And. Ca. as explained above.
3. The boundary between Boat and Clarke Guay is actually demarcated by Coleman Bridge. Sine the Station is to the left of the bridge, it does fall within the Clarke Quay area.
4. If its not called Tanjong Pagar..then wat? :D
Anyway, if I may add to your list:
5. Expo. Lets hope the Expo dosent change its building name. And lets hope it dosent get converted into some other uses anytime in future. :D
6. Kovan. I always hated this name, especially when it is serving my neighbourhood. My area has NEVER been popularly known as Kovan. That said, I also cant think of a good alternative name for it! ;)
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 10:14 AM 1. I tot datz the reason why they dun name it Singapore Poly. but it's because of the Expo station that i thought they should give back the name.
2. actually the best is raffles city since most of the time i would usu refer dat rather than city hall but since it's a commercial bldg, the likelyhood of a name change is high so i chose the cathedral which is beside it oso. the cathedral is also a historical site so it sure has the same status as city hall. if the first is not accepted, i tot padang is still more appropriate. y i dun like city hall is explained earlier.
3. nope. clarke quay oni refers to the area around liang court, north of singapore river.
click here (http://www.streetdirectory.com.sg/map.jsp?x=29379.477&y=30330.51)
will they ask me to pay 4 quoting fr their site? :bash:
4. the area where the station is on now wasn't known as tanjong pagar in the past. if i m not wrong, tanjong pagar actually referred more to the area west of the road of the same name. the working name of the station was actually maxwell.
5. most probably it is there 2 stay datz y the use the name. there is even a road named after it.
6. Kovan City got its name fr the MRT station? then rename as Hougang South as most ppl noe.
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 10:26 AM u noe wat the stations were known as b4 they got their current names?
these r what i noe.
dover - singapore polytechnic
tanjong pagar - maxwell
raffles place - singapore river
khatib - sembawang
choa chu kang - bukit panjang (renamed because of realignment?)
chinatown - people's park
little india - kandang kerbau
potong pasir - sennett :baaa:
that's wat i could recall. correct me if im wrong.
anymore 2 add?
Cliff January 16th, 2004, 12:28 PM What's wrong with City Hall?
The station is just 5 minutes walk from City Hall.
Tanjong Pagar is ok to me.
Singapore Poly Station is alittle too political don't you think?:D
I agree that Boat Quay is better.:)
huaiwei January 16th, 2004, 12:37 PM 1. Ulu Pandan wont sound very glamorous would it? ;)
2. You have a Raffles City and a Raffles Place. Notice they dont like to name stations that sound "too alike." If it really needs to be renamed, I would prefer it be called "Stamford," after the road that runs over it. It would be more then appriopriate to have our two most important stations in the city named after our founder!
3. The Clarke Quay you know refers to the "commonly known" one by laymen. The Clarke Quay boundary I refered to comes from the URA. Too bad the map isnt available in the URA site liao, but if you wanna know, The Singapore River planning area is divided into 3 sections, with Boat Quay to the east of Coleman Bridge, Clarke Quay between Coleman and Clemenceau Bridges, and Robertson Quay to the west of Clemenceau Bridge.
4. Maxwell dosent sound as "localised" as Tanjong Pagar. Maybe for the same reason I hate the "Kovan" name. Then again, Anson, Robinson, Cecil or Shenton seem to sound slightly better? :D
5. If only it can be called Xilin, even thou the road is so far away! ;)
6. Logically it shd be Hougang South, but as I mentioned in point 2, they dont like similar-sounding station names for some reason.
huaiwei January 16th, 2004, 12:52 PM Walieu....can we merge this thread with the station names thread? No need to have two on the same topic lah. :D
Anyway....
Bugis - Victoria (goodness!)
Tanah Merah - Changi
Jurong East - Jurong
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 03:20 PM 1.ulu pandan is far fr the area lar. :bash: if oni 2 choices, dover is definitely better. anyway, if there is an mrt station in ulu pandan area, it will be named after it.
btw, y is SP political?? cos YCK is not NYP? :D
2. yar, used 2 b confused by the 2 stations in the past. Stamford sounds good. to me, to name a station after a building, it must really come very close to it, or at least have an exit near to it.
3. i noe wat plans u r toking about. the names r oni there 4 ease of planning. there is 1 planning area (can't remember which) with names mostly found on the monopoly board. :nuts: btw, i m not toking about seletar. these r like electoral boundaries. the names r not always related 2 the vicinity.
4. i think because we got used to the term that Tanjong Pagar now refers 2 the MRT area also.
anyway, i tot Shenton Way should be used. or even Anson but how dares to name it after the latter? :runaway:
5. Xilin is definitely a bit far but if the area is also known as xilin, y not?
6. i also noticed that they dun like to have similar names, to avoid confusion i suppose. so no Jurong West, Hougang South
7. Either Farrer or Farrer Park should be renamed then. the names r too similar. most likely they will rename Farrer since it's not in service yet but i tot that's the most appropriate name. Difficult to find subsitute. At least at Farrer Park there r other choices like Race Course......
since this involves the upcoming CCL stations, i shall add on
8. Convention Centre. I prefer it to be named after some place of significance, like the War Memorial (Park) next to it.
9. Boulevard. it has no meaning at all! :weird: Isn't it better to be known as National Stadium? Unless they intend to have a new name 4 the stadium after rebuilding it. Then name after the new stadium.
10. Tanjong Katong. too far fr the road. Dakota is better. furthermore there is a history behind this name. I think the plane Dakota crashed (into kallang airport?) :? somethng like dat. i m not very sure.
11. Marymount. this is ok but i prefer Shunfu, after the estate just next to it.
12. Adam. Adam Road is on the other side. However, i dunno wat to call it 2. :dunno: :D
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 03:22 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Walieu....can we merge this thread with the station names thread? No need to have two on the same topic lah. :D
Anyway....
Bugis - Victoria (goodness!)
Tanah Merah - Changi
Jurong East - Jurong
i remember victoria too.. but i tot it is 4 lavender. luckily i din put it down. malu. :tongue2:
Trances January 16th, 2004, 04:09 PM I dont mind City Hall called raffles city ? as there are many connections to the raffles complex
But city hall sounds much more offical
huaiwei January 16th, 2004, 04:16 PM 1. Er....that canal/river flowing pass the area is called Sungei Ulu Pandan loh! :D
3. I dont ever consider political names one lah. Hence my dislike for having a "Cheng San" library in Hougang Central as well.
4. Wats wrong with Anson?
Hm..since you brought up those names on the CCL, I have quite alot of problems with them too:
CC1 Douby Ghart - Acceptable obviously :D
CC2 Museum - Walao. I would prefer "Bras Basah" any day!
CC3 Convention Centre - I agree it sucks. How about "Esplanade"? Abit the far..but maybe "Memorial" would be good too?
CC4 Millenia - Did Pontiac Millenia sponser them or something? Might as well call CC3 Suntec. I would think its best to call it "Marina Centre" or even "Temasek" or "Banjamin Shears", since it is beside Temasek Avenue and Benjamin Shears Bridge!
CC5 Nicoll Highway - Golden Mile or even Kampong Glam?
CC6 Stadium Boulevard - Maybe this should be named after wat ever they choose to call the new sports hub?
CC7 Old Airport Road - Mountbatten instead? The current name sounds clumsy.
CC8 Tanjong Katong - Other then Dakota, may Broadrick can be considered too?
CC9 Paya Lebar - No change.
CC10 MacPherson - Good choice.
CC11 Upper Paya Lebar - Wat a clumsy name. Tai Seng is much better.
CC12 Bartley Road - Barley should be enough.
CC13 Serangoon - No change.
CC14 Lorong Chuan - Dosent sound very right, but cant think of a good alternative.
CC15 Bishan - No change.
CC16 Marymount - Im ok with either Marymount or Shunfu.
CC17 Thomson - Seems abit far off to be called Thomson, plus it seems to be in an ulu place (for now)....maybe give it a less significant name like Westlake? Caldecott even? hahaha
CC18 Bukit Brown - Dunno how they got this name. Must be the cemetary. :D
CC19 Adam - Good choice.
CC20 Farrer - This one very "farrer" leh...how to change? :D
CC21 Holland - Er..abit the wierd to be named after a country. Maybe they shd change this to Buona Vista and turn Buona Vista to Ghim Moh. hehe
CC22 Buona Vista - See above.
CC23 One-North - Hope this name sticks to the area for the long term...or else...change it to Ayer Rajah? :D
CC24 NUH - I prefer Kent Ridge.
CC25 West Coast - dosent sound nice..but bobian.
CC26 Pasir Panjang - Good choice.
CC27 Alexandra - Acceptable. A nice alternative could be Labrador.
CC28 Telok Blangah - Acceptable.
CC29 HarbourFront - This may be existing, but I wished it can be called Keppel! :bash: ;)
kenmin January 16th, 2004, 06:10 PM dun u noe Anson was the first opposition ward after dunno how decades.
seems that u r more fussy than me on the names. :D
CC2 Museum. tot it is weird too. bras basah is good. mayb SMU, but unlikely since there is no SP, they wun have SMU
CC4 the area has no history at all so i tot it is ok 2 use the term millenia as they might wanna develop the area wif this name? actually i oso tot of temasek (same reason as u) but i like the suggested benjamin sheares very much. :okay: might be used by the station // to the bridge in new downtown? Marina Centre is still the best.
CC5 though i dun really like it, i have no qualms about using a road name as a station name. similarly to Temasek for CC4, the nearest road i can find is Republic. sounds like a station in Ppyongyang. :tongue2:
CC6 so the working name is Stadium Boulevard. :tongue2: it is actually named after the road. the map oni put Boulevard so i tot it is extremely stupid to have a name with no meaning at all. i still prefer National Stadium or watever name they r going 2 name the new stadium.
CC7 Mountbatten is reserved 4 Mountbatten Est. the area is known as Old Airport so it is quite appropriate.
CC12 Lemon Barley is nicer. :D :bash: actually the working name is known as Bartley oredi.
CC14 because it is named after a road? call it Chuan then. most ppl should b more used to Lor Chuan. or Braddell Ht (too similar to Braddell)
CC17 ain't westlake and caldecott even farther? when the station is opened, it wun b ulu oredi.
CC18 definitely fr the cemetery. off topic: y Woodleigh is not called Bidadari instead? :bleep:
CC19 Adam is just too far fr the location. I prefer Bt Timah but some ppl would refer Bt Timah to the area around Beauty World. Furthermore, this name is likely reserved for Bukit Timah Est (though it could be called Toh Yi 2) really can't think of another name...... but Adam is just not rite......
CC20 agree. then Farrer Park must rename.
CC21 the station is named after the area which is named after the country. so if it is weird, the name of the area should change. they were kept because the govt wanna have some history 2 show ppl... the name is ok but i think Holland Village is better.
CC24 Kent Ridge reserved for 1 of the LRT stations in the campus?
CC25 if they can ensure Haw Par Villa survival, which i doubt so, name after it.
CC29 Is Harbour Front is govt property rite? so it's ok.
RafflesCity January 16th, 2004, 07:43 PM Originally posted by kenmin
CC12 Lemon Barley is nicer.
:dizzy:
Very interesting points raised though. Museum is weird, but kinda cute.
Cliff January 17th, 2004, 01:48 AM I don't like Museum and Convention Centre, sounds like Hong Kong, because thay have a station called University.:D
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 06:02 AM CC4 Just realised that Marina Centre might not be that appropriate due to the existence of Marina Bay (to be renamed Marina in the future?)
actually is there a need to avoid similar names? with more and more stations coming up, there bound to be a time when the names have to be similar rite? like Farrer and Farrer Park; Old Airport and Changi Airport (quite unlikely to get confused for this)
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 11:19 AM Anson should not be an issue by now lah.....afterall there is Eunos, Bukit Gombak, Potong Pasir and Hougang stations? :D
CC5 Republic actually sounds ok..and seems to follow the trend in the other staion names around the area....
CC7 Where is Mountbatten Estate? Anyway "Old Airport" sounds clumsy...
CC14 Yeah I did think of Braddell Heights too until I realised there is a Braddell
CC19 Adam Road is at the junction wat...very far meh? Then what...Botanic Gardens? :D
CC21 Actually I did wonder why call it Holland in the first place...I mean for the roads...Holland Village do sound better.
CC24 I am quite sure they can think of better names then Kent Ridge for a smallish LRT station. That statoin happens to cut through the entire ridge, and that is more then appriopriate! :D
CC25 Wahah!! Haw Par station?? :D
CC29 Since when is HarbourFront govt property?? I still prefer the old name of WTC thou.
redstone January 17th, 2004, 11:26 AM The Clark Quay station was originally named Singapore River.
Should Woodleigh be renamed Bidadari?
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 11:29 AM Originally posted by kenmin
CC4 Just realised that Marina Centre might not be that appropriate due to the existence of Marina Bay (to be renamed Marina in the future?)
actually is there a need to avoid similar names? with more and more stations coming up, there bound to be a time when the names have to be similar rite? like Farrer and Farrer Park; Old Airport and Changi Airport (quite unlikely to get confused for this) I dont think Marina Bay is going to be called Marina...
In the much ealier plans, they actually did name the various new stations in the extended NS line. I remember some as being called "Marina Boulevard, Marina South, Marina East" and so on. Wonder if they are going to continue using that naming convention.
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 03:40 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Anson should not be an issue by now lah.....afterall there is Eunos, Bukit Gombak, Potong Pasir and Hougang stations? :D
CC5 Republic actually sounds ok..and seems to follow the trend in the other staion names around the area....
CC7 Where is Mountbatten Estate? Anyway "Old Airport" sounds clumsy...
CC14 Yeah I did think of Braddell Heights too until I realised there is a Braddell
CC19 Adam Road is at the junction wat...very far meh? Then what...Botanic Gardens? :D
CC21 Actually I did wonder why call it Holland in the first place...I mean for the roads...Holland Village do sound better.
CC24 I am quite sure they can think of better names then Kent Ridge for a smallish LRT station. That statoin happens to cut through the entire ridge, and that is more then appriopriate! :D
CC25 Wahah!! Haw Par station?? :D
CC29 Since when is HarbourFront govt property?? I still prefer the old name of WTC thou.
but not during dat time mar. when the station was opened in 1987... Bt Gombak was named b4 the opposition took over the ward... another example is potong pasir lor... damn political. luckily they din call Hougang station Cheng San in the beginning.. :lol:
CC7 the small estate is in the south of the Old Airport Estate.
CC19 if the station is built at the junction of the 4 road, it is still acceptable. but the currently location is too far.. Botanic Gardens is more 4 the entrance at cluny road... if there is no better choice, name it Bt Timah. or Dunearn? i prefer the former.
CC24. dun 4get there is 1 more branch line fr BTL though not confirmed. mayb they r still deciding which station should get the name Kent Ridge?
CC29 it's not govt property?! i always have this impression cos the cruise centre is in it and also it was WTC in the past. then who owns it? not very proper to have a station name after commercial building as name changes r more likely... they could not use the name WTC because the name is controlled by some world organisation...
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 03:46 PM Originally posted by redstone
The Clark Quay station was originally named Singapore River.
Should Woodleigh be renamed Bidadari?
b4 the official announcement? cos i remember the name clarke quay since the first day i saw it on papers. seems dat they like 2 call stations near the river by its own name. :D
tot Bidadari is more appropriate since it has more historical value. but i think they r going 2 call the new town there Woodleigh. :baaa:
new addition to working station
Harbour Front - World Trade Centre. (thanks to huaiwei's reminder. :tongue2: )
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 03:49 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
I dont think Marina Bay is going to be called Marina...
In the much ealier plans, they actually did name the various new stations in the extended NS line. I remember some as being called "Marina Boulevard, Marina South, Marina East" and so on. Wonder if they are going to continue using that naming convention. i think i got the impression cos the new downtown seems to refer 2 the station as Marina.
anyway, i remember there would be 3 stations that forms a U shape fr NSL extension fr the initial plan... station names r Marina View, Marina Groove, Marina Boulevard? I m not very sure actually.. may b i dreamt up the names? :lol:
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 05:02 PM Originally posted by kenmin
but not during dat time mar. when the station was opened in 1987... Bt Gombak was named b4 the opposition took over the ward... another example is potong pasir lor... damn political. luckily they din call Hougang station Cheng San in the beginning.. :lol:
CC7 the small estate is in the south of the Old Airport Estate.
CC19 if the station is built at the junction of the 4 road, it is still acceptable. but the currently location is too far.. Botanic Gardens is more 4 the entrance at cluny road... if there is no better choice, name it Bt Timah. or Dunearn? i prefer the former.
CC24. dun 4get there is 1 more branch line fr BTL though not confirmed. mayb they r still deciding which station should get the name Kent Ridge?
CC29 it's not govt property?! i always have this impression cos the cruise centre is in it and also it was WTC in the past. then who owns it? not very proper to have a station name after commercial building as name changes r more likely... they could not use the name WTC because the name is controlled by some world organisation... Wakao..if its Cheng San again......that will really prompt me to write in a letter of complaint! They can just name Serangoon staion as Marine Parade!! ;)
CC7 You talking about the private estate?
CC19 Bukit Timah will be the name of an entire line...not very appriopriate lah....anyway i think its moved there because of the alingment and to minimise tearing the whole place up mah...
CC24 Dont care....I hate the NUH name!! :D I love it when they refer to this region as "the ridge"...at least in my school lah. ;)
CC29 Its confirmed private. There is even an entire company formed out of this development.....and it has a website at http://www.theharbourfront.com.sg. But the thing is they named the road there as "harbourfront" as well. Dumb move.
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 05:04 PM Originally posted by kenmin
i think i got the impression cos the new downtown seems to refer 2 the station as Marina.
anyway, i remember there would be 3 stations that forms a U shape fr NSL extension fr the initial plan... station names r Marina View, Marina Groove, Marina Boulevard? I m not very sure actually.. may b i dreamt up the names? :lol: Yes...I do remember there are about 3 stations too....but I cant recall the exact names very well too....Marina East is of coz on the other side of the Channel....
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 07:20 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Wakao..if its Cheng San again......that will really prompt me to write in a letter of complaint! They can just name Serangoon staion as Marine Parade!! ;)
CC7 You talking about the private estate?
CC19 Bukit Timah will be the name of an entire line...not very appriopriate lah....anyway i think its moved there because of the alingment and to minimise tearing the whole place up mah...
CC24 Dont care....I hate the NUH name!! :D I love it when they refer to this region as "the ridge"...at least in my school lah. ;)
CC29 Its confirmed private. There is even an entire company formed out of this development.....and it has a website at http://www.theharbourfront.com.sg. But the thing is they named the road there as "harbourfront" as well. Dumb move.
:lol: luckily the station lies in the Hougang Constituency so they can't create any controversy in the first place.
CC7 private meh? I think is HDB. not very far fr Old Airport station but there will b an LRT line along the way to ERL so I tot there should b a station.
CC29 Mapletree Investments Pte Ltd is the wholly owned subsidiary of Temasek Holdings...... :bash: seems dat there is a trend to name roads after buildings these days. Harbour Front Walk, Expo Link, Raffles Institution Lane.... wat else? :nuts:
kenmin January 17th, 2004, 07:21 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Yes...I do remember there are about 3 stations too....but I cant recall the exact names very well too....Marina East is of coz on the other side of the Channel.... the 3 stations i saw were all within Marina South.
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 07:36 PM Originally posted by kenmin
:lol: luckily the station lies in the Hougang Constituency so they can't create any controversy in the first place.
CC7 private meh? I think is HDB. not very far fr Old Airport station but there will b an LRT line along the way to ERL so I tot there should b a station.
CC29 :bash: seems dat there is a trend to name roads after buildings these days. Harbour Front Walk, Expo Link, Raffles Institution Lane.... wat else? :nuts: Eh....actually if you remember when they first announced the NEL station alingments, PAP was insisting the station lies within their boundary. They are partly right, coz the border cuts just south of where the station is...
CC7 Then which is Mountbatten estate?? The road names or blk numbers pls...
CC29 Wakao....not too long ago the harbourfrant thing was supposed to be a consortium between keppel land and this govt linked thingy....seems like one party ran off liao.... :D
huaiwei January 17th, 2004, 07:37 PM Originally posted by kenmin
the 3 stations i saw were all within Marina South. I noe lah....I mentioned Marina East jus coz the names sounded similar..................
kenmin January 18th, 2004, 11:37 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Eh....actually if you remember when they first announced the NEL station alingments, PAP was insisting the station lies within their boundary. They are partly right, coz the border cuts just south of where the station is...
CC7 Then which is Mountbatten estate?? The road names or blk numbers pls...
CC29 Wakao....not too long ago the harbourfrant thing was supposed to be a consortium between keppel land and this govt linked thingy....seems like one party ran off liao.... :D
this type of things oso must fight. just like me in my kindergarten years... :lol: might as well call it Cheng San MRT station then. :weird: too bad they dun have the whole station within the boundary. if not, who knows...
CC7 along Mountbatten Road, south of the river.
huaiwei January 18th, 2004, 11:51 AM Originally posted by kenmin
this type of things oso must fight. just like me in my kindergarten years... :lol: might as well call it Cheng San MRT station then. :weird: too bad they dun have the whole station within the boundary. if not, who knows...
CC7 along Mountbatten Road, south of the river. Yeah lah......the thing is PAP insists the ENTIRE station is within their boundary....must be they shifted the station abit north jus to substantiate their claim lah. What to do...they are in power. :D
CC7 I am refering to the estate...wheres the mtbatten estate?
kenmin January 19th, 2004, 05:42 PM I was oso toking about the estate.:bash:
http://www.streetdirectory.com.sg/map.jsp?x=33580.145&y=31660.068721064803
i keep using their site. later the charge me how? :tongue2:
huaiwei January 19th, 2004, 05:59 PM Originally posted by kenmin
I was oso toking about the estate.:bash:
http://www.streetdirectory.com.sg/map.jsp?x=33580.145&y=31660.068721064803
i keep using their site. later the charge me how? :tongue2: Chey....I usually refer to it as Tg Rhu estate lah....:D
Anyway, you think we big big company ah? Didnt they say personal use is ok? ;)
szehoong January 20th, 2004, 04:59 AM Originally posted by kenmin
little india - kandang kerbau
GOODNESS they din name it Kandang Kerbau!!! :D
Little India sounds nice and pleasant! .....anyone here got any idea what kandang kerbau means? :lol:
Its 'water buffalo den' :laugh:
kenmin January 20th, 2004, 05:01 AM Boon Keng - how come it was not called as Bendemeer? never knew where Boon Keng was until the announcement of the NEL. I always known the area as Bendemeer...
szehoong January 20th, 2004, 05:06 AM Originally posted by Trances
I dont mind City Hall called raffles city ? as there are many connections to the raffles complex
But city hall sounds much more offical
City Hall sounds good.......in fact I think it is a common practice everywhere to name at least the station near a city/town hall building by its function.
Sydney for example had Town Hall station and Kuala Lumpur had the Bandaraya station. Although Bandaraya might translate to just the word 'city' but 'city hall' in malay is 'Dewan Bandaraya' which is a bit too long so they just named it Bandaraya. ;)
szehoong January 20th, 2004, 05:16 AM Originally posted by Cliff
I don't like Museum and Convention Centre, sounds like Hong Kong, because thay have a station called University.:D
Oh gosh......In KL we had a station called 'Universiti' which of course in English it is University too! :D In fact I was against the naming of the station as Universiti as the university the station is supposed to refer to - University of Malaya isn't that accessible from that station ;)
I wonder if any other cities have 'Museum' or 'University' stations ? :D
RafflesCity January 20th, 2004, 05:38 AM I think they called it museum since there are 3 museums in the vicinity..although I imagine it would be quite hard to think of an alternative name for that area:bash:
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 09:50 AM Originally posted by RafflesCity
I think they called it museum since there are 3 museums in the vicinity..although I imagine it would be quite hard to think of an alternative name for that area:bash: I already suggested Bras Basah earlier...would you disagree it is much more historic for the station? ;)
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 09:52 AM Originally posted by szehoong
GOODNESS they din name it Kandang Kerbau!!! :D
Little India sounds nice and pleasant! .....anyone here got any idea what kandang kerbau means? :lol:
Its 'water buffalo den' :laugh: There is still a Kandang Kerbau Hospital loh, and it is the largest maternity hospital in the world in terms of babies delivered! :D That is the simple reason why KK (affectionally abbreviated locally) dosent seem that controversial here...haha
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 09:55 AM Originally posted by kenmin
Boon Keng - how come it was not called as Bendemeer? never knew where Boon Keng was until the announcement of the NEL. I always known the area as Bendemeer... I know it as whampoa loh...aiyah that place got so many overlaping areas with different names, so I suppose they jus picked one. Boon Keng Road happen to pass by the station towards the south I suppose, while Bendemmer Road is relatively further away?
RafflesCity January 20th, 2004, 11:21 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
I already suggested Bras Basah earlier...would you disagree it is much more historic for the station? ;)
I think I have a short memory. I also wanted to suggest that, but thought its already taken by another line. This thread is making me confused between whats gonna happen, and whats just suggested:bash:
kenmin January 20th, 2004, 03:57 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
There is still a Kandang Kerbau Hospital loh, and it is the largest maternity hospital in the world in terms of babies delivered! :D That is the simple reason why KK (affectionally abbreviated locally) dosent seem that controversial here...haha someone wrote in to complained about the name b4. I think he said something like Little India is a name coined by the tourism board so it seems too artificial and doesn't reflect well on the history of the area.
to me, both are acceptable. i believe why they name it as Little India is because of Chinatown station... Can't possibly change name for 1 but not the other rite?
if i m not wrong, the same writer oso criticised on the use of the name Chinatown. something to do wif it being a name for a larger area in the area... can't really remember...
kenmin January 20th, 2004, 03:59 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
I know it as whampoa loh...aiyah that place got so many overlaping areas with different names, so I suppose they jus picked one. Boon Keng Road happen to pass by the station towards the south I suppose, while Bendemmer Road is relatively further away? I reserved Whampoa for the area along Balestier Road.
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 04:06 PM Originally posted by RafflesCity
I think I have a short memory. I also wanted to suggest that, but thought its already taken by another line. This thread is making me confused between whats gonna happen, and whats just suggested:bash: Cant blame you....you will have to be following the thread quite closely from the first page. ;)
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 04:08 PM Originally posted by kenmin
someone wrote in to complained about the name b4. I think he said something like Little India is a name coined by the tourism board so it seems too artificial and doesn't reflect well on the history of the area.
to me, both are acceptable. i believe why they name it as Little India is because of Chinatown station... Can't possibly change name for 1 but not the other rite?
if i m not wrong, the same writer oso criticised on the use of the name Chinatown. something to do wif it being a name for a larger area in the area... can't really remember... Hmm....if I can recall, someone was asking it to be named as "Tekka" station right? Or was this tied to the whole saga over renaming Zhujiao Centre back to Tekka Centre?
BTW, "Tekka" means pig's leg in hokkien for those who arent familiar with it. :D
kenmin January 20th, 2004, 05:37 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Hmm....if I can recall, someone was asking it to be named as "Tekka" station right? Or was this tied to the whole saga over renaming Zhujiao Centre back to Tekka Centre?
BTW, "Tekka" means pig's leg in hokkien for those who arent familiar with it. :D :bash: sounds like only lar. in mandarin.
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 06:05 PM Originally posted by kenmin
:bash: sounds like only lar. in mandarin. Sounds like? But tekka is tekka mah...pig's leg loh! ;)
kenmin January 20th, 2004, 06:19 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Sounds like? But tekka is tekka mah...pig's leg loh! ;) dat's tee ka. diff fr tek (pronouced as "take") ka. :bash: btw, the chinese character is bamboo, not pig.
huaiwei January 20th, 2004, 06:53 PM Originally posted by kenmin
dat's tee ka. diff fr tek (pronouced as "take") ka. :bash: btw, the chinese character is bamboo, not pig. Ah? Oh I tot its a typo error!! Wahahaa!!! Thanks for the clarification! I always tot its pig's leg till now! :D
kenmin January 21st, 2004, 04:28 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Ah? Oh I tot its a typo error!! Wahahaa!!! Thanks for the clarification! I always tot its pig's leg till now! :D :dizzy: u noe how the area got its name? it because there used 2 b some bamboo fence there... the term leg means "end of" in dialect i think so it should be end of the bamboo (fence)
i think the fence is to fence up the water baffalo den? so kandang kerbau... actually i m not sure if both names actually refers to the exactly the same place in the past.
btw, now then i realised the malay name and chinese name has diff meaning. :D
kenmin January 21st, 2004, 07:16 AM Should we named some of the stations, like those in Marina area which have no historical background, after our pioneers after independence? let's not talk about LKY since he is still around. How about Late Mr Ong Teng Cheong? He is afterall the one who brought MRT to our country.
huaiwei January 21st, 2004, 09:53 AM Originally posted by kenmin
:dizzy: u noe how the area got its name? it because there used 2 b some bamboo fence there... the term leg means "end of" in dialect i think so it should be end of the bamboo (fence)
i think the fence is to fence up the water baffalo den? so kandang kerbau... actually i m not sure if both names actually refers to the exactly the same place in the past.
btw, now then i realised the malay name and chinese name has diff meaning. :D Hahaa...its preciely since KK is refering to buffalos, that I tot aybe the Chinese got their inspriation about pig's legs dishes...hahaha :bash: :D
huaiwei January 21st, 2004, 09:55 AM Originally posted by kenmin
Should we named some of the stations, like those in Marina area which have no historical background, after our pioneers after independence? let's not talk about LKY since he is still around. How about Late Mr Ong Teng Cheong? He is afterall the one who brought MRT to our country. Eh? Just like Benjamin Shears? Ong Teng Cheong station...hm.....abit the.....sad?
kenmin January 21st, 2004, 02:47 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Eh? Just like Benjamin Shears? Ong Teng Cheong station...hm.....abit the.....sad? sad? just trying 2 find a way to recognise his contribution to MRT mar.
huaiwei January 21st, 2004, 02:54 PM Originally posted by kenmin
sad? just trying 2 find a way to recognise his contribution to MRT mar. Dunno leh....its like his death was relatively recent loh.....I still find it rather sad...dunno why...
kenmin January 23rd, 2004, 07:33 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Dunno leh....its like his death was relatively recent loh.....I still find it rather sad...dunno why... oic.
kenmin January 23rd, 2004, 07:37 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
CC29 HarbourFront - This may be existing, but I wished it can be called Keppel! :bash: ;) Just realised that Keppel is the most probable name for NE2.
huaiwei January 23rd, 2004, 07:44 AM Originally posted by kenmin
Just realised that Keppel is the most probable name for NE2. Not really. It can be spottiswoode as well, which sounds quite nice too anyway. ;)
kenmin January 23rd, 2004, 08:07 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Not really. It can be spottiswoode as well, which sounds quite nice too anyway. ;) because u think the station will be located in the north of AYE? that's my initial guess too. but datz a hilly region. how deep do they have to dig to reach the tunnel?! :eek:
huaiwei January 23rd, 2004, 12:07 PM Originally posted by kenmin
because u think the station will be located in the north of AYE? that's my initial guess too. but datz a hilly region. how deep do they have to dig to reach the tunnel?! :eek: They have to flatten it to build the area up anyway, especially after the railway moves out? ;)
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 07:46 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
They have to flatten it to build the area up anyway, especially after the railway moves out? ;) hmmm... maybe. then the whole spottiswoode park gotta be redeveloped? what a waste. I like the tranquility of the area. :(
huaiwei January 24th, 2004, 08:49 AM Originally posted by kenmin
hmmm... maybe. then the whole spottiswoode park gotta be redeveloped? what a waste. I like the tranquility of the area. :( I dont know...I was refering to the Master Plans, and they show the area cleared up and zoned entirely for residential housing? IT would be a better plavce to cite the MRT station then.
redstone January 24th, 2004, 10:50 AM The Tanjong Pagar Railway Station is a masterpiece!
It should be preserved as a National Monument ,but I think the only reason it isn't is because it sits on M'sian grounds.
The Yew Tee station should be renamed.Yew Tee means 'oil pond'.Wonder why it is called that?
Also ,there is no road called Khatib anywhere in Singapore.So Khatib should be renamed too.
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 11:18 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
I dont know...I was refering to the Master Plans, and they show the area cleared up and zoned entirely for residential housing? IT would be a better plavce to cite the MRT station then. the area around it is also residential. so it is difficult to tell. anyway, the station is definitely around the area but will it b in the north or south of the current AYE?
my guess in the latter.
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 11:22 AM Originally posted by redstone
The Tanjong Pagar Railway Station is a masterpiece!
It should be preserved as a National Monument ,but I think the only reason it isn't is because it sits on M'sian grounds.
The Yew Tee station should be renamed.Yew Tee means 'oil pond'.Wonder why it is called that?
Also ,there is no road called Khatib anywhere in Singapore.So Khatib should be renamed too. I think the area there was known as Yew Tee in the past for some reasons that i dunno. similar for Khatib.
huaiwei January 24th, 2004, 02:10 PM Originally posted by kenmin
the area around it is also residential. so it is difficult to tell. anyway, the station is definitely around the area but will it b in the north or south of the current AYE?
my guess in the latter. It dosent make any sense to have it at the south you know, unless they move the port out (which they will do so decades kater btw) ;)
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 02:46 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
It dosent make any sense to have it at the south you know, unless they move the port out (which they will do so decades kater btw) ;) decades? then i shall stick to my initial guess then.
wait a minute, i still think there is a possibility that it is in the south because CCL phase 6 will b // to NEL until AYE. ie, they may build 2 interchanges similar to City Hall/ Raffles Place. However this is on a concept plan. the actually route is still not finalised...
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 02:54 PM 1 more station name that I don't like. Chinese Garden. it is so far fr the garden.. only 1 thing that make the name barely acceptable. then linkway between the station and the garden.
Sometimes oso cannot blame them. the whole area was known as Jurong in the past so it is very difficult to come out with unique names at times.
huaiwei January 24th, 2004, 05:46 PM Originally posted by kenmin
1 more station name that I don't like. Chinese Garden. it is so far fr the garden.. only 1 thing that make the name barely acceptable. then linkway between the station and the garden.
Sometimes oso cannot blame them. the whole area was known as Jurong in the past so it is very difficult to come out with unique names at times. Eh...if you didnt realise, the constituency in that area is called "Yuhua" which is Chinese Garden in Mandarin! :D
huaiwei January 24th, 2004, 05:47 PM Originally posted by kenmin
decades? then i shall stick to my initial guess then.
wait a minute, i still think there is a possibility that it is in the south because CCL phase 6 will b // to NEL until AYE. ie, they may build 2 interchanges similar to City Hall/ Raffles Place. However this is on a concept plan. the actually route is still not finalised... Pls leh..you put a interchange in the middle of no where ah....dosent make sense loh! :D
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 06:54 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Eh...if you didnt realise, the constituency in that area is called "Yuhua" which is Chinese Garden in Mandarin! :D Yuhua is derived fr Chinese Garden? I din noe that. :D then they should have just called the station Yuhua mah... :bash:
kenmin January 24th, 2004, 06:56 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Pls leh..you put a interchange in the middle of no where ah....dosent make sense loh! :D :? I m talking about the future leh, when the CCL loop is completed. anyway, let's carry on with this topic in the future mrt stations thread. :D
RafflesCity January 24th, 2004, 10:26 PM Nice avatar kenmin. Very unique:)
What are those blue things?
kenmin January 25th, 2004, 05:14 AM Originally posted by RafflesCity
Nice avatar kenmin. Very unique:)
What are those blue things? it's KENMIN. can't read? think i gotta change the font. :tongue2:
changed. :D
huaiwei January 25th, 2004, 09:42 AM Originally posted by kenmin
it's KENMIN. can't read? think i gotta change the font. :tongue2:
changed. :D I cant make out the kenmin either until you changed it! :D
kenmin January 26th, 2004, 09:43 AM was going through the masterplan 2003 to look for more info on the marine hub @ marina south and saw they actually have a road named as Sheares Ave. so can more or less confirmed 1 of the new stations for Chinatown leg of MRL will be known as such.
Let me guess the name of the 5 yet-2-b-announced stations.
Chinatown (watelse since it is linked to the existing.)
Cross/Telok Ayer (prefer the 2nd 1 but the whole station is built along Cross St.)
Business and Financial Centre (name abit long. mayb just BFC)
Bayfront
Sheares
kenmin January 26th, 2004, 09:50 AM actually, the Far East Square station could also be known as Amoy. so many choices. dunno which 1 to choose.
anything oso can but please dun call it Far East (Square):bash:
Cliff January 26th, 2004, 03:59 PM Originally posted by kenmin
actually, the Far East Square station could also be known as Amoy. so many choices. dunno which 1 to choose.
anything oso can but please dun call it Far East (Square):bash:
Is there a Far East Square station coming?
Sorry, I want paying attention to this thread.
Its the one on Cross Street right?
If there is, why?? Its so close to Raffles Place!
But I hope they build it.
kenmin January 26th, 2004, 04:19 PM Originally posted by Cliff
Is there a Far East Square station coming?
Sorry, I want paying attention to this thread.
Its the one on Cross Street right?
If there is, why?? Its so close to Raffles Place!
But I hope they build it. it's on the Chinatown leg of Marina Line. not officially announced yet so they can still make amendments.
huaiwei January 26th, 2004, 04:46 PM Originally posted by kenmin
Cross/Telok Ayer (prefer the 2nd 1 but the whole station is built along Cross St.)Dont worry about it being sited under a road, and hence must take that name. Lots of our stations are named after the road intersecting it instead anyway. :D
Telok Ayer is good. If not, they might name it China Square!!
kenmin January 26th, 2004, 05:48 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Dont worry about it being sited under a road, and hence must take that name. Lots of our stations are named after the road intersecting it instead anyway. :D
Telok Ayer is good. If not, they might name it China Square!! isn't it the same as Far East Square?:bash:
btw, maybe can adopt all 3 names then the station has its own name with each language? Telok Ayer in malay, Cross in English and Amoy (aka Xiamen) in Chinese? :D
Currently only Chinatown is like dat but 2 diff names only. Kreta Ayer and Niu Che Shui has the same meaning.
Acutally Little India should follow the same style. ie Kadang Kerbau in Malay, Little India in English and Tekka (aka Zhujiao) in Chinese.
Which other station can be like that too?
huaiwei January 26th, 2004, 06:23 PM Wah you getting more and more ambitious :D
Ang Mo Kio - Hong Mao Chiao - Red Hair Bridge - Jambatan Rambut Merah? :D
Anyway the general area is called China Square mah, which incudes all 7 phases of the projects in the area. Notice the food court there is called "china square"? ;)
kenmin January 27th, 2004, 06:23 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Wah you getting more and more ambitious :D
Ang Mo Kio - Hong Mao Chiao - Red Hair Bridge - Jambatan Rambut Merah? :D
Anyway the general area is called China Square mah, which incudes all 7 phases of the projects in the area. Notice the food court there is called "china square"? ;) ur AMK suggestion is the same wat. all translate fr the same term. I m talking about unique names for each language, not merely translation.
I tot China Square is a name coined by the developer. :tongue2: anyway, it's too similar to Chinatown.
Cliff January 27th, 2004, 10:27 AM Too many names would be confusing...:D
huaiwei January 27th, 2004, 10:49 AM Originally posted by kenmin
ur AMK suggestion is the same wat. all translate fr the same term. I m talking about unique names for each language, not merely translation.
I tot China Square is a name coined by the developer. :tongue2: anyway, it's too similar to Chinatown. Aiyah I am just kidding lah :D
China square was coined by URA when they were selling the sites loh...:cool:
huaiwei January 27th, 2004, 10:51 AM Originally posted by Cliff
Too many names would be confusing...:D Haha...so far I saw only three stations which display station names in multiple languages. ;)
kenmin January 27th, 2004, 01:45 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Haha...so far I saw only three stations which display station names in multiple languages. ;) I remember last time all the stations have all 4 languages. When did they remove?
new addition to working name
Lavender - Crawford (have some vague impression. am i rite?)
huaiwei January 27th, 2004, 03:26 PM Originally posted by kenmin
I remember last time all the stations have all 4 languages. When did they remove?
new addition to working name
Lavender - Crawford (have some vague impression. am i rite?) Is it? I only recall they had those 4 language announcements, which are also stopped now.
As for crawford.....I did not mention in my earlier posts ah? Cant remember if it ever was a former name too. :bash: ;)
kenmin February 14th, 2004, 05:27 PM Is it because the Chinese names of Bugis and Pasir Ris r too similar that they decided to adopt direct translation for both instead? :bleep:
should at least give back Bugis original name mar. it has been known as "bai sha fu" for decades, if not centuries... so much better than "wu ji shi" :dizzy:
huaiwei February 14th, 2004, 06:57 PM Originally posted by kenmin
should at least give back Bugis original name mar. it has been known as "bai sha fu" for decades, if not centuries... so much better than "wu ji shi" :dizzy: Bai Sha Fu? Wu Ji Shi?? What do they mean?? :? ;)
kenmin February 15th, 2004, 10:41 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Bai Sha Fu? Wu Ji Shi?? What do they mean?? :? ;) Bai Sha Fu : White Sand Float. :D direct translation. dunno how it got its name.
Wu Ji Shi: Just a lame direct translation of Bugis. :bash:
huaiwei February 15th, 2004, 11:09 AM Eeeee.............
Anyway they can aways cal Pasir Ris "Ba1 Si1 Li4"? Tot I heard that before? ;)
kenmin February 16th, 2004, 05:58 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Eeeee.............
Anyway they can aways cal Pasir Ris "Ba1 Si1 Li4"? Tot I heard that before? ;) it used to be called "bai sha".
actually i would like both to have back their original names but it is definitely confusing so 1 of them have to give up and that's Pasir Ris.
I think most ppl got used to the term "ba xi li" however, Bugis is still known as "ba sha fu" in the Chinese community so they should scrap the name "wu ji shi":bash:
RafflesCity February 16th, 2004, 07:55 AM Interesting points about Bugis name.
Here is a pic of a Singapore restaurant in London called 'Bugis'. Notice the Chinese name?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/502/103sg.jpg
huaiwei February 16th, 2004, 05:47 PM Hmm...so "ba xi li" was not a name from my imagination? :D I remember refering it as such in my teens? Tot it went out of fashion or something...
kenmin February 20th, 2004, 04:41 PM not renaming stations this time. i wanna rename a line!!! :bash:
always find it weird to call NSL NSL.. though the main purpose of this line is to bring those in the North to the South, it also goes to the West... Futhermore the South in fact is sometimes known as Central......
since it serve those in the North Northwest and West it should be known as North-Northwest-West line but that's too cumbersome so just shorten it to North West line. :D
kenmin March 15th, 2004, 03:20 PM Punggol has 15 LRT stations coming up. Just like Sengkang, it has not enuf local names to name all the 15 stations. Sengkang stations r named after trees. what theme will they use for Punggol? Marine life??
will we have an Ikan Bilis station in the future? :rofl:
huaiwei March 15th, 2004, 08:06 PM Wakao...........Guppy station anyone? ;)
Anyway....u sure about the nw line thingy?? Dosent seem very convincing?? :colgate:
kenmin March 16th, 2004, 05:34 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Wakao...........Guppy station anyone? ;)
Anyway....u sure about the nw line thingy?? Dosent seem very convincing?? :colgate: :? Kranji, Choa Chu Kang, etc r considered NorthWest rite? Jurong East is West rite?
huaiwei March 16th, 2004, 01:02 PM Originally posted by kenmin
:? Kranji, Choa Chu Kang, etc r considered NorthWest rite? Jurong East is West rite? Habourfront you consider Northeast meh??? :D
Sometimes the way you think is kinda odd loh! :D
kenmin March 16th, 2004, 02:16 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Habourfront you consider Northeast meh??? :D
Sometimes the way you think is kinda odd loh! :D :bash: fr city to Punggol mar... a general direction taken fr the city. if u want, u can call it NorthEast-SouthWest line. dun u think it's cumbersome?
like wat i said, calling it North-NorthWest-West line (or if u insist, Marina-City-Central-North-Northwest-West line) is too long.. so shorten it to NWL lar.:bash:
my thinking is not odd. just that i think out of the box. :D
kenmin March 29th, 2004, 09:36 AM Expo Station's working name was Somapah Station. :nuts:
kenmin April 3rd, 2004, 03:35 PM LTA do not name the stations after commercial bldgs.. What about Ten Mile Junction? Though it is still owned by the Govt, they have the intention to sell ever since they constructed the bldg. When sold, it will become commercial bldg rite? is there a clause whereby the buyer must retain the name?
RafflesCity April 3rd, 2004, 06:24 PM Somapah sounds stupid..what does it mean? :D
10 Mile Junction may as well call Beach Rd station.
kenmin April 3rd, 2004, 07:32 PM Somapah sounds stupid..what does it mean? :D
10 Mile Junction may as well call Beach Rd station.
huh? why beach rd?? so far fr the area...
huaiwei April 3rd, 2004, 08:21 PM I think he got confused between "Golden Mile" and "Ten Mile"! :D
RafflesCity April 3rd, 2004, 11:24 PM yah I've only heard of Golden Mile so I assumed they are more or less the same. So where is 10 mile located?
huaiwei April 4th, 2004, 03:49 PM At the north-western corner of the conflunce at a major road junction between Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang...
kenmin April 4th, 2004, 04:05 PM yah I've only heard of Golden Mile so I assumed they are more or less the same. So where is 10 mile located?
u really gave me the impression that u have not step into Singapore for eons...
i think it got the name because in the past, the area is known as 10 mile (Upper) Bukit Timah Road...
eyetoeye April 4th, 2004, 04:25 PM Looks like the actual road names should be changed too.. hehe...
huaiwei April 4th, 2004, 04:35 PM u really gave me the impression that u have not step into Singapore for eons...
i think it got the name because in the past, the area is known as 10 mile (Upper) Bukit Timah Road...
You have to remember he wasnt in Singapore for the large part of the past years! :D
eyetoeye April 4th, 2004, 04:47 PM I have to be honest. When i first heard 'Ten Mile', i thought it was some fancy sauce or drink.. like thousand island... lol
huaiwei April 4th, 2004, 05:31 PM My God...this is hilarious!!! :D
kenmin April 8th, 2004, 07:26 AM 1 very good eg why City Hall station's name is not appropriate.
read fr another forum. A guy was supposed to meet his fren at City Hall. In the end, his fren turn up at City Hall station instead. It is such a shame that City Hall has lost it's name to the station.
Imagine a tourist asking direction to City Hall and being directed to the station instead. :bash:
Kit April 8th, 2004, 08:11 AM 1 very good eg why City Hall station's name is not appropriate.
read fr another forum. A guy was supposed to meet his fren at City Hall. In the end, his fren turn up at City Hall station instead. It is such a shame that City Hall has lost it's name to the station.
Imagine a tourist asking direction to City Hall and being directed to the station instead. :bash:
I would think its just a case of mis-communication, a rare one at best. Don't know about you guys but I always specify City Hall MRT when I'm meeting somebody there. Those who initiate the meet with me will also specify its the MRT station without fail. So far no problems at all. I think we should stop blaming places and buildings for mistakes we make. :bash:
kenmin April 8th, 2004, 08:22 AM I would think its just a case of mis-communication, a rare one at best. Don't know about you guys but I always specify City Hall MRT when I'm meeting somebody there. Those who initiate the meet with me will also specify its the MRT station without fail. So far no problems at all. I think we should stop blaming places and buildings for mistakes we make. :bash:what i m trying to put across is the name "city hall" is no longer associated with the building but the mrt station for some ppl; minority or majority, i dunno.
Kit April 8th, 2004, 08:52 AM What you guys think? I personally don't think City Hall MRT has done anything that affects City Hall in any way. Like I said, most people I meet are able to distinguish the difference between the MRT station and City Hall itself by being more specific. If I were to meet someone at the City Hall, then no way would I be heading the MRT station. Shouldn't have any problem unless the person meant the station when he said City Hall. If the person you mentioned couldn't tell the difference between the station and City Hall when being told specifically, I'm not that sympathetic for him being at the wrong place. :down:
kenmin April 8th, 2004, 09:15 AM What you guys think? I personally don't think City Hall MRT has done anything that affects City Hall in any way. Like I said, most people I meet are able to distinguish the difference between the MRT station and City Hall itself by being more specific. If I were to meet someone at the City Hall, then no way would I be heading the MRT station. Shouldn't have any problem unless the person meant the station when he said City Hall. If the person you mentioned couldn't tell the difference between the station and City Hall when being told specifically, I'm not that sympathetic for him being at the wrong place. :down:
As I already said, it's not a case of getting to the wrong place. It's about the rightful owner of the name getting less prominent compared to the "fake" 1. ie, when the term "City Hall" is mentioned, the first thing that comes to mind is the MRT station, not the bldg.
huaiwei April 8th, 2004, 11:11 AM If my opinion is wanted, I have to admit I think that is an extreme case of miscommunication. Even if we tend to call the MRT station only by "City Hall," the one conveying the message should have been conscious enough of that to clarify things firsthand. And alot of things depends on context as well, which we wont be able to decifer from a 3rd person's point of view.
City Hall MRT Station is an important station which should be named after something of great importance in the area. Other then City Hall itself, I do not know if any other name is suitable? If the station was not called city hall, maybe the name city hall wont even be mentioned much by Singaporeans?
Kit April 8th, 2004, 02:57 PM As I already said, it's not a case of getting to the wrong place. It's about the rightful owner of the name getting less prominent compared to the "fake" 1. ie, when the term "City Hall" is mentioned, the first thing that comes to mind is the MRT station, not the bldg.
What is considered more prominent? Historically speaking, yes the City Hall is prominent. However; in today's context, is the train station of any lesser importance? I don't think so. There is nothing wrong with naming the station City Hall because its names differently in the first place. Its called City Hall station. If someone can confuse the train station with City Hall, then he/she should not leave home without a street directory and a guide at least. Places and buildings with similar names are abound.
There are many train stations in the world that's named after prominent structures and buildings. I don't see others having any problem with that. I certainly don't see why it should be a problem here cept maybe for a few blur sotongs.
eyetoeye April 8th, 2004, 03:04 PM My most humble opinion: I think it's a reasonable mistake to make. I mean, most people will assume that when you say you want to meet at City Hall, you're referring to City Hall MRT, since that's a major transportation 'hub'. When you want to meet someone somewhere, you would usually choose a convenient place(ie, a place with sufficient transportation facilities). Unless your goal is to actually tour City Hall, it'd be a bit weird to meet there.
For example, would you say to a person: "Hey! Let's have lunch together today at Jurong! Meet me at Jurong Island!"?
kenmin April 9th, 2004, 07:53 AM What is considered more prominent? Historically speaking, yes the City Hall is prominent. However; in today's context, is the train station of any lesser importance? I don't think so. There is nothing wrong with naming the station City Hall because its names differently in the first place. Its called City Hall station. If someone can confuse the train station with City Hall, then he/she should not leave home without a street directory and a guide at least. Places and buildings with similar names are abound.
There are many train stations in the world that's named after prominent structures and buildings. I don't see others having any problem with that. I certainly don't see why it should be a problem here cept maybe for a few blur sotongs.
I m not looking down on the prominence of an MRT station. but City Hall, being the rightful owner of the term, it has become less well known to the station that borrowed it's name. Isn't it a shame? and I have to reiterate that this has nothing to do with getting confused or whatsoever.
I m not saying that a station can't be named after prominent structures and bldg. City Hall, though within walking distance, is not conspicuous fr the station's exit. That's why ppl start to forget the existence of this structure. If the station is located right in front of the station, by all means name after it. at least, when u r at the station, u would most probably know the bldg existed.
anyway, I have to agree with Huaiwei that if the station is not named as City Hall, less ppl will mention the term..
btw, Huaiwei has an excellent suggestion b4 mar. Stamford Station.
Kit April 9th, 2004, 09:36 AM I m not looking down on the prominence of an MRT station. but City Hall, being the rightful owner of the term, it has become less well known to the station that borrowed it's name. Isn't it a shame? and I have to reiterate that this has nothing to do with getting confused or whatsoever.
I m not saying that a station can't be named after prominent structures and bldg. City Hall, though within walking distance, is not conspicuous fr the station's exit. That's why ppl start to forget the existence of this structure. If the station is located right in front of the station, by all means name after it. at least, when u r at the station, u would most probably know the bldg existed.
anyway, I have to agree with Huaiwei that if the station is not named as City Hall, less ppl will mention the term..
btw, Huaiwei has an excellent suggestion b4 mar. Stamford Station.
Think of it this way..... before the station was built. How many times have "City Hall" come across your mind? Once a year when the NDP is held there perhaps? City Hall is City Hall. City Hall station is City Hall station. If people don't get confused with either, then I don't see how the station using "City Hall" will affect the actual City Hall. No doubt, the station is more prominent and in a way overshadows the City Hall but that's because it serves the public directly. How much attention was paid to City Hall in the first place in day to day life before the station was built? The reason why City Hall takes a step back from the general public compared to the station has very little to do with the name if you asked me. The function of each installation dictates its prominence historically point of view and day to day life. However, if you were to ask an average Singaporean to tell the difference between the 2, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a difficult task.
You stated people will mention less about City Hall if the station is not named after it and yet you obviously dislike the fact that because its name after City Hall, it will make people forget about the actual City Hall since the station is better used by the general public? So are you saying that by naming the station City Hall, it has some positive impact on the actual City Hall? If this is the case, then how can it be bad?
kenmin April 9th, 2004, 09:54 AM Think of it this way..... before the station was built. How many times have "City Hall" come across your mind? Once a year when the NDP is held there perhaps? City Hall is City Hall. City Hall station is City Hall station. If people don't get confused with either, then I don't see how the station using "City Hall" will affect the actual City Hall. No doubt, the station is more prominent and in a way overshadows the City Hall but that's because it serves the public directly. How much attention was paid to City Hall in the first place in day to day life before the station was built? The reason why City Hall takes a step back from the general public compared to the station has very little to do with the name if you asked me. The function of each installation dictates its prominence historically point of view and day to day life.
You stated people will mention less about City Hall if the station is not named after it and yet you obviously dislike the fact that because its name after City Hall, it will make people forget about the actual City Hall since the station is better used by the general public? So are you saying that by naming the station City Hall, it has some positive impact on the actual City Hall? If this is the case, then how can it be bad?
When I said ppl forgetting the existence of the bldg, I meant that for some ppl, the term "city hall" has become synonymous to the MRT station, they wun even think of the bldg when the term is used. If the current station is not named City Hall, then when the term is mentioned, though less often, the actual City Hall will come to mind naturally.
RafflesCity April 9th, 2004, 10:00 AM hmmm...I still say City Hall MRT when meeting with friends, but if I really wanted them to meet me at the City Hall, I would have to ensure they know which one I was talking about. I suppose its ok with close frens, but for pple you dont know so well..better make doubly sure.
Kit April 9th, 2004, 10:13 AM When I said ppl forgetting the existence of the bldg, I meant that for some ppl, the term "city hall" has become synonymous to the MRT station, they wun even think of the bldg when the term is used. If the current station is not named City Hall, then when the term is mentioned, though less often, the actual City Hall will come to mind naturally.
Like Raffles, its still City Hall MRT for me and for those who initiate meetups with me be it friends or those whom I'm meeting for the first time. It just makes sense to be specific. City Hall is still City Hall to me. Perhaps its inevitable for some to make mistakes depending on how conscious you are to the surrounding. Even if the station is named Stamford or something else, can you gurantee that the same situation won't apply? There's also Stamford Road, Westin Stamford(used to be) and not to mention Sir Stamford Raffles. Then wouldn't the term Stamford be synonymous to a train station so much so that Sir Stamford becomes less significant especially since he's not talked about in day to day lifes?
huaiwei April 9th, 2004, 11:26 AM Oh well, do you guys know that alot of people thinks Supreme Court is City Hall, or the two buildings are one, and called City Hall? Most foreigners makes this mistake, and you will be surprised that MANY locals think the same!
Apparently, the name "City Hall" evoked far more collective memory for Singaporeans then "Supreme Court," even thou it is the later's dome which is ore recognisable and distinguishable. It just goes to show how omnipresent the name "City Hall" is to us, and perhaps the naming of the station after it helps to to ensure its continued relevance?
kenmin April 15th, 2004, 11:00 AM names of Punggol LRT stations released.
PE1 Cove
PE2 Meridian
PE3 Coral Edge
PE4 Riveria
PE5 Kalaloor
PE6 Oasis
PE7 Damai
PW1 Sam Kee
PW2 Teck Lee
PW3 Punggol Point
PW4 Samudera
PW5 Nibong
PW6 Sumang
PW7 Soo Teck
huaiwei April 15th, 2004, 11:04 AM Wakao........
I tot Meridian and Damai are used in other places?
kenmin April 15th, 2004, 11:07 AM Wakao........
I tot Meridian and Damai are used in other places?
yar lor. the schools rite. I know Meridian is named after the precinct in the south of the station.
anyway, what does Damai means huh???
actually i tot PE4 will be known as Tembing.
huaiwei April 15th, 2004, 11:10 AM Meridian JC is in Pasir Ris. What a confusion. In the first place, I wonder why they cant call the one in Pasir Ris Elias or something.
I dunno wat Damai means leh....
kenmin April 15th, 2004, 11:17 AM Meridian JC is in Pasir Ris. What a confusion. In the first place, I wonder why they cant call the one in Pasir Ris Elias or something.
I dunno wat Damai means leh....i think there r Meridian Sec/Pri in Pasir Ris as well.
all these confusion because the diff agencies never bother to coordinate... :bash:
huaiwei April 15th, 2004, 11:22 AM I tot the recent civil service debate called for better coordination between agencies?? :D
arataka April 17th, 2004, 01:08 PM names of Punggol LRT stations released.
PE1 Cove
PE2 Meridian
PE3 Coral Edge
PE4 Riveria
PE5 Kalaloor
PE6 Oasis
PE7 Damai
PW1 Sam Kee
PW2 Teck Lee
PW3 Punggol Point
PW4 Samudera
PW5 Nibong
PW6 Sumang
PW7 Soo Teck
I dun even think theres any significant river at PE4
eyetoeye April 17th, 2004, 02:13 PM Oh man.... can't they think of better names?
RafflesCity April 17th, 2004, 02:20 PM come to think of it..they DO sound very strange -_-
eyetoeye April 17th, 2004, 02:34 PM LTA should open a creative department or something....
szehoong April 17th, 2004, 03:17 PM anyway, what does Damai means huh???
'Damai' means 'tranquil' ;)
kenmin April 17th, 2004, 04:28 PM Oh man.... can't they think of better names?we dun even noe how they got the names. mayb some of them r really of great significance to Punggol.. wait for them to tell us how the names r derived.
kenmin April 17th, 2004, 04:30 PM 'Damai' means 'tranquil' ;)
how about all the other names that look malay?? or there r no more malay words??
huaiwei April 17th, 2004, 08:48 PM Why dont they open up the naming to the punggol residences instead??
Kit April 18th, 2004, 06:57 AM or they could just engage the services of an "international naming consultant"......... as always.....
huaiwei August 7th, 2004, 08:45 AM or they could just engage the services of an "international naming consultant"......... as always.....
Hahahaha.....:D
Seriously there is such an entity?
Kit August 7th, 2004, 08:58 AM Hahahaha.....:D
Seriously there is such an entity?
Who did you think gave us "Uniquely Singapore"? :rant:
huaiwei September 26th, 2004, 04:00 PM Who did you think gave us "Uniquely Singapore"? :rant:
Alright alright....I tot that was more of marketing consultants or something! :D
ignoramus September 26th, 2004, 04:05 PM Wah, 1.5 months delay in replies to the thread...
huaiwei September 26th, 2004, 04:10 PM Hahaa....actually I reposted it to re-energise this thread. ;)
kenmin September 27th, 2004, 04:12 PM Marina Bay station is not really that near to the bay. wonder if it will be renamed when the 2nd leg of marina line is built.
in fact, will the reservoir still be known as Marina Bay when it is dammed up? :?
ignoramus September 27th, 2004, 05:03 PM I thought the Marina Line was just a name given to denote Phase 1 of the Circle Line? So it doesn't really exist now?
Are you referring to the HarbourFront to Marina Bay Link instead? I thought the Circle Line after Phase 5 would be complete already...no plans or anything showing otherwise right?
redstone September 27th, 2004, 05:32 PM Look
Buangkok was not opened due to 'residentials too far away from it'. What about Marina Bay? :bash:
There's nothing within a radius of more than 400m, which is the reason why Buangkok was not opened.
kenmin September 28th, 2004, 03:53 PM I thought the Marina Line was just a name given to denote Phase 1 of the Circle Line? So it doesn't really exist now?
Are you referring to the HarbourFront to Marina Bay Link instead? I thought the Circle Line after Phase 5 would be complete already...no plans or anything showing otherwise right?
I was referrring to the one from Chinatown linking up with the existing via NDT.
huaiwei September 28th, 2004, 09:33 PM I was referrring to the one from Chinatown linking up with the existing via NDT.
Its very confusing when you call it the "second leg" of the Marina Line. In fact, I would think that name is simply dead and non-existant now, unless they decide to use that term to refer to the PMS system within the city area.
kenmin September 29th, 2004, 03:54 PM Its very confusing when you call it the "second leg" of the Marina Line. In fact, I would think that name is simply dead and non-existant now, unless they decide to use that term to refer to the PMS system within the city area.
Since no new name is given to this upcoming project, I just use the old term.
kenmin November 28th, 2004, 10:37 AM Who knows where to find the Chinese names of the Punggol LRT stations?
huaiwei November 28th, 2004, 10:47 AM Who knows where to find the Chinese names of the Punggol LRT stations?
Dunno leh. Anyway I tot they are going to introduce the multiple language thingy? Still haven seen any leh.
kenmin January 11th, 2005, 03:12 PM Finally released the Chinese names of Punggol LRT station. Why is Coral Edge called 珊瑚 and not 珊瑚边缘? :lol:
kenmin January 11th, 2005, 03:17 PM How some of the stations got it's name according Zaobao
PE1 Cove
PE2 Meridian
PE3 Coral Edge
PE4 Riveria
PE5 Kalaloor - Tamil term for marina
PE6 Oasis
PE7 Damai - Malay term for peace
PW1 Sam Kee - A fishing village of the same name used to be in the area
PW2 Teck Lee - After a prominent villager Lim Teck Lee
PW3 Punggol Point
PW4 Samudera -Tamil and Malay term for something. Can't remember.
PW5 Nibong
PW6 Sumang - Wang Sumang, a Malay warrior who built up the area.
PW7 Soo Teck
huaiwei January 11th, 2005, 05:20 PM They dont have info for the other names?
redstone January 11th, 2005, 05:22 PM So tough to remember... :rant:
huaiwei January 11th, 2005, 05:27 PM I stil dont like how they are calling one of the stations Damai. Makes everything so confusing loh!
redstone January 11th, 2005, 05:29 PM Damai... Makes me think of the area around Damai Sec... :rant:
To trust LTA to come up with those hard-to-remember names... :rant::bleep:
Should have a naming competiton that does not have too many restrictions!
kenmin January 13th, 2005, 02:36 PM They dont have info for the other names?
Not all were mentioned. Maybe due to space constraints so they only picked the more meaningful ones. Too bad ZB online doesn't provide the pic. If not, can post a link here.
kenmin January 13th, 2005, 02:39 PM I stil dont like how they are calling one of the stations Damai. Makes everything so confusing loh!
Do you mean all the schools named after the roads in their original locations ought to be renamed too? or rename the roads??
kenmin January 13th, 2005, 02:45 PM Damai... Makes me think of the area around Damai Sec... :rant:
To trust LTA to come up with those hard-to-remember names... :rant::bleep:
Should have a naming competiton that does not have too many restrictions!unless you call the stations 1, 2, 3 or A, B, C, All the names will be difficult to remember. Don't forget they have to come up with around 15 names for an area most people will only call Punggol. It's unlike MRT where the number of stations within a town is at most 3.
Anyway, as the number of MRT stations increase, we will soon have trouble remembering all of them as well. Ask anyone in Tokyo or London to name all the stations and I wonder how many people acutally can tell you all.
^tamago^ October 3rd, 2005, 09:08 AM 4. Tanjong Pagar. this station is just like naming the library in Hougang New Town.. Cheng San Community Library... wat else can i say... :nuts:
they named it cheng san due to political reasons. hougang constituency is controlled by opposition, while PAP's cheng san is not.
also, it was the only library then in the north-east area serving serangoon, sengkang and punggol, so it was meant to cater to people living in the cheng san constituency.
^tamago^ October 3rd, 2005, 09:10 AM u noe wat the stations were known as b4 they got their current names?
these r what i noe.
dover - singapore polytechnic
tanjong pagar - maxwell
raffles place - singapore river
khatib - sembawang
choa chu kang - bukit panjang (renamed because of realignment?)
chinatown - people's park
little india - kandang kerbau
potong pasir - sennett :baaa:
that's wat i could recall. correct me if im wrong.
anymore 2 add?
bishan - san teng
simei - changi
lakeside - corporation
RafflesCity October 3rd, 2005, 11:39 AM omg bishan just sounds so much better, and lakeside more inspiring
redstone October 3rd, 2005, 01:02 PM Senett sounds more relaxing. :)
RafflesCity October 3rd, 2005, 01:32 PM I prefer Potong Pasir, simply because I think its more famous than Senett, which is what the station name should try to accomplish in most instances :)
mrtfreak October 5th, 2005, 04:51 PM Stations to rename?
East West Line:
Expo to Exposition or Exhibition. Expo sounds a bit incomplete, hanging in the air kinda...
North South Line:
NIL
North East Line:
NIL
*I know many people can't pronounce Woodleigh properly though. A friend called it Wood-ledge
Circle Line:
Eplanade - YUCK! Its friggin far from the theaters (might as well rename City Hall Esplanade like that). Memorial Park would have been better.
Promenade - Are they serious? Temasek, Marina Centre and Millenia were good already. Promenade is too vague.
Stadium - I guess it is okay. Maybe be more specific? Guess they can't get more specific than that.
Dakota - Each time I hear this I cringe. Katong station would have been better.
Tai Seng - Shoot me. Choose something else. Please. I don't know where Tai Seng is, don't expect non-Tai Sengers to. Upper Paya Lebar was a better name. But it is only working, so, like Mount Vernon? Ubi? Somethign to do with the industrial area? Kim Chuan?
LRTs:
NIL
*Bukit Panjang's stations are named after things to do with the malay traditional words (Fajar=Day, Senja=Twilight, Segar=Fresh, Petir=Thunderstorm). The CCK half I think is the name of the place (like after Phoenix road)
Yup, that's my 2 cents worth.
Personally, I'd rather they spilt the East West line and Changi Airport line for navigational purposes. Many tourists think that it is a through service because the line has the same colour (especially so for Chinese, Korean and Jap tourists who have limited knowledge and understanding of English). Give Tanah Merah a detination number too. Give the CAL a different line colour. If they could do it for the CCK branch line in the 90's, why not now? :)
redstone October 6th, 2005, 10:47 AM Katong would be more appropiate for the ERL. :)
Charging Bull October 7th, 2005, 01:38 AM Suggested to rename Promenade to Singapore Flyer but was told that they do not name MRT station after the name of a public building.
redstone October 7th, 2005, 06:06 AM Expo?
Named after Singapore Expo?
HarbourFront?
Charging Bull October 7th, 2005, 07:19 AM "官" 字 兩 个 口
redstone October 7th, 2005, 07:20 AM ???
:?
mrtfreak October 10th, 2005, 10:17 AM HarbourFront is actually the name of the area after the revamp. So, technically, the station is not named after the commercial building. There's HarbourFront centre and HarbourFront towers, so HarbourFront is the generic name of the area.
Sydney has a Museum station.
tweedledum December 5th, 2005, 09:35 AM I always thought some of the NEL stations have rather funny names. For e.g.
Little India - more of a colloquial name, which is quite surprising. Imagine calling Chinatown "Little China" or Beach Room "Little Thailand". Possible names could be "Tekka" or "Kandang Kerbau"
Harbourfront - sounds too generic, and can refer to any of the 5 harbours in Singapore. Since the new Marina South area is now called "Bayfront", I assume that all future waterfront areas will have the word "Front" in them (but then again, the name "Marina Bay" itself is already generic) A better and more memortable name, I thought, could be "Cruise Bay" (name of the docking area for the Star Cruises)
And the same generic thread goes to the newly named CCL stations - Promenade, Esplanade etc (sounds very 80s! - and where exactly are they located?). I still preferred "Convention Centre" and "Millenia"
"Bras Basah" should be "SMU" or "Museum". Many subway stations in Western countries have names of universities - and the area around it will soon develop its own identity.
"Dakota" - eew! Sounds like a country song (and an American state). There are so many other names - Tanjong Katong, Mountbatten, Guillemard etc to choose from.
kenmin February 21st, 2006, 12:31 PM saw an old map at LKCRL recently. in one of them, there is a railway station called Cluny Road Railway Station. Botanic Gardens station should be renamed to that, since the name already existed so many decades ago.
^tamago^ February 21st, 2006, 12:56 PM To facilitate the construction of Dakota MRT Station,, traffic will be diverted from Old Airport Rd via Cassia Link, Cassia Cres, Guillemard Rd and Guillemard Camp Rd (to be opened soon) to Dunman Rd at the affected area.
Cassia Link/Cres will be widened, affected pair of bus stops (Blk 62 & Blk 99) along Old Airport Rd will be shfited to Cassia Link.
Previously closed Guillemard Camp Rd will be widened & re-opened to traffic, and Broadrick Sec Sch bus stop will be shifted to Guillemard Camp Rd.
redstone February 21st, 2006, 01:51 PM saw an old map at LKCRL recently. in one of them, there is a railway station called Cluny Road Railway Station. Botanic Gardens station should be renamed to that, since the name already existed so many decades ago.
LKCRL????
Good idea! Suggest to LTA. Email them. :banana:
redstone February 21st, 2006, 01:53 PM Guillemard Camp Rd will be widened & re-opened to traffic.
It was previously a road inside the camp, now opened to public?
ignoramus February 21st, 2006, 02:00 PM LKCRL????
Good idea! Suggest to LTA. Email them. :banana:
LKC Reference Library @ the National Library. LKC is someone's name. Can't be bothered to find out who he is...
RafflesCity February 21st, 2006, 02:24 PM Lee Kong Chian
^tamago^ February 21st, 2006, 06:23 PM It was previously a road inside the camp, now opened to public?
going to. :)
kenmin May 13th, 2006, 07:31 AM Why hasn't LTA asked for public opinions regarding the station names of Boon Lay Extension? I don't like the name Pioneer.
blizzardtweaker May 15th, 2006, 01:32 PM date of completion isnt exactly near enough yet, n i much prefer Pioneer to some ancient chinese dudes name.... Joo Kun......wad a drag...
RafflesCity May 15th, 2006, 04:32 PM :lol:
kenmin May 21st, 2006, 07:39 AM date of completion isnt exactly near enough yet, n i much prefer Pioneer to some ancient chinese dudes name.... Joo Kun......wad a drag...
What's wrong with a Chinese name?
Btw, I dislike Pioneer cos a part of Tuas is also known as Pioneer. So it's better to leave the name there and give the area around the MRT station another name.
blizzardtweaker May 22nd, 2006, 04:34 PM think about it, at every stationof the EWL the sign shows Pasir Ris/Changi Airport-->Joo Kun, the the british accent lady on the announcements says,' this train terminates at Joo Kun', now wouldnt that be.....i mean boo lay's bad enough (i would have prefered Jurong West)...
i mean for places that are popularly known in their chinese name, like yishun, YCK, sengkang, that perfectly fine, its just when they use unpopular names to name the stations....
anw, jurong (from a malay word) was formerly called peng kang, a reference to a gambier plantation located in the area, after 1906, rubber plantations dominated the area (Bulim Estate, Lokyang Estate, Chong Keng Estate, Seng Toh Estate and Yunnan Estate were formed).... ok so there are probably gonna be used for Jurong LRT...
kenmin May 26th, 2006, 06:58 PM think about it, at every stationof the EWL the sign shows Pasir Ris/Changi Airport-->Joo Kun, the the british accent lady on the announcements says,' this train terminates at Joo Kun', now wouldnt that be.....i mean boo lay's bad enough (i would have prefered Jurong West)...
i mean for places that are popularly known in their chinese name, like yishun, YCK, sengkang, that perfectly fine, its just when they use unpopular names to name the stations....
anw, jurong (from a malay word) was formerly called peng kang, a reference to a gambier plantation located in the area, after 1906, rubber plantations dominated the area (Bulim Estate, Lokyang Estate, Chong Keng Estate, Seng Toh Estate and Yunnan Estate were formed).... ok so there are probably gonna be used for Jurong LRT...
:? Does that mean all the stations should have English names so that "the british accent lady" has no problem pronouncing the names correctly?
I read some where that the origin of Jurong is Jew Orang, a reference to a Jew who used to reside in that area. Wonder how true is it.
RafflesCity May 27th, 2006, 06:28 AM Actually if you look at all the names of the stations on the MRT network of all the places, they reflect the multicultural heritage of Singapore, and I think thats unique and cool.
Pengui May 27th, 2006, 01:06 PM Joo Kun doesn't sound cool to me, I prefered Boon Lay... I suppose it's a matter of being used to certain languages' sounds :-)
blizzardtweaker May 28th, 2006, 06:09 PM :? Does that mean all the stations should have English names so that "the british accent lady" has no problem pronouncing the names correctly?
I read some where that the origin of Jurong is Jew Orang, a reference to a Jew who used to reside in that area. Wonder how true is it.
frm wikipedia:
Jurong is probably derived from the Malay word jerung, which means a "voracious shark".
n no, i dont mean we should have english names for all stations, that would destroy singapore as a multiracial n multicultrual city, n yar, maybe pengui is rite, its a matter of getting use to the name, i dun live anywhere near jurong, so i dun have any rite to comment, since i dont know if Joo Kun is common at all there, its just the impression of Joo kun at first sight sounding weird...
builder1010 May 28th, 2006, 08:09 PM Do you guys know what does PIONEER means?
well, its not the pioneer that every1 presumes. Pioneer is actually a platoon of soldiers that is call Combat Engineers. I am in the Singapore Combat Engineers, so I when we were in the units. we were all called pioneers!
^tamago^ May 29th, 2006, 02:33 AM not that pioneer, dude...
Mr.ASAP May 29th, 2006, 01:59 PM yeah and its also not your SAF pioneer magazine :D:D ...
anyway i think MUSEUM station should be renamed to say Fort Canning (though a little far) or something else, musem sounds a little generic though...
redstone May 29th, 2006, 02:21 PM Hope it extends to Tuas Checkpoint one day.
blizzardtweaker May 30th, 2006, 04:16 PM Hope it extends to Tuas Checkpoint one day.
unlikely, coz the malaysian side of 2nd link is very deserted, no-ond would take a train to the tuas causeway n walk in the malaysian forest for hours to get to jorhor city, 2nd link was meant for buses/coaches (and some cars) going beyond jorhor to maybe KL or something.
so unless m'sia starts developing the land on their side of the second link, there would simply be no demand for the mrt
ignoramus May 30th, 2006, 05:04 PM unlikely, coz the malaysian side of 2nd link is very deserted, no-ond would take a train to the tuas causeway n walk in the malaysian forest for hours to get to jorhor city, 2nd link was meant for buses/coaches (and some cars) going beyond jorhor to maybe KL or something.
so unless m'sia starts developing the land on their side of the second link, there would simply be no demand for the mrt
They are developing a new city Nusajaya there, with perhaps even a Disneyland Malaysia. So there will probably be demand in the next decade or so if this plan comes through... :)
RafflesCity May 30th, 2006, 05:25 PM anyway i think MUSEUM station should be renamed to say Fort Canning (though a little far) or something else, musem sounds a little generic though...
Fort Canning could be renamed Bukit Larangan...its original name :D
kenmin June 1st, 2006, 04:02 PM Do you guys know what does PIONEER means?
well, its not the pioneer that every1 presumes. Pioneer is actually a platoon of soldiers that is call Combat Engineers. I am in the Singapore Combat Engineers, so I when we were in the units. we were all called pioneers!
There are 4 meaning of Pioneer in dictionary.com
1. One who ventures into unknown or unclaimed territory to settle.
2. One who opens up new areas of thought, research, or development: a pioneer in aviation.
3. A soldier who performs construction and demolition work in the field to facilitate troop movements.
4. Ecology. An animal or plant species that establishes itself in a previously barren environment.
If you are referring to the "Pioneer" of Jurong, Tuas area, it definitely refers to the first and second meanings. It has nothing to do with the 3rd since the Chinese translation is 先驱, not 工兵.
kenmin June 1st, 2006, 04:04 PM yeah and its also not your SAF pioneer magazine :D:D ...
anyway i think MUSEUM station should be renamed to say Fort Canning (though a little far) or something else, musem sounds a little generic though...
It's no more Museum. Already changed to Bras Basah.
blizzardtweaker June 1st, 2006, 04:56 PM They are developing a new city Nusajaya there, with perhaps even a Disneyland Malaysia. So there will probably be demand in the next decade or so if this plan comes through... :)
well acording to the media, there goes disneyland, and as for the new city... any ETAs, coz right now it looks like 360degrees of green :jk:
Nov June 1st, 2006, 07:12 PM It's in the next 5-year M'sia plan, although who knows if it will be on schedule.
^tamago^ June 1st, 2006, 07:23 PM extend ERL to JB and Nusaraya, anyone?
Nov June 1st, 2006, 07:27 PM ERL??? JB is to the north, and the 2nd link is in the west. What does the ERL has to do with this?
^tamago^ June 1st, 2006, 08:29 PM for Disneyland in JB. then either have a shuttle bus or turn straight to Disneyland.
u need to have a rail fast enough to reach there.. and for IR visitors to zip into KL real quick...
blizzardtweaker June 2nd, 2006, 04:29 PM ERL??? JB is to the north, and the 2nd link is in the west. What does the ERL has to do with this?
i think he meant EWL, extending it from Joo Kun to the 2nd link. n if m'sia decides to have a theme park near the 2nd link they'd proabably make alot of money from s'poreans.
however if the 2 goverenments couldnt agree on the mrt over woodlands causeway, i dun see why anyone would make concessions here. oh n i dun tink we nid high-speed rails frm JB Disney to SG IR, thr mrt or shuttle bus, would surfice considering the distance, n besides seeing the city while getting there makes it better doesnt it?
kenmin June 2nd, 2006, 05:23 PM why are we talking about theme parks in malaysia here? :?
blizzardtweaker June 2nd, 2006, 05:56 PM well, its linked to dat, since we're toking bouit EWL extention to 2nd link
^tamago^ June 2nd, 2006, 07:32 PM actually i think it's pretty difficult for cross-border rail services beyond wat it is now (what happened to the proposed kranji KTM station? both sides not willing to build though they say it's in the plans...) so i believe it will benefit them to build ERL from KL to JB Senai, then turn towards Nusaraya and terminate there. the ride will take no longer than 3 hours... Senai to JB City can be served by a new LRT that has just been announced...
kenmin June 2nd, 2006, 08:10 PM well, its linked to dat, since we're toking bouit EWL extention to 2nd link
fine. but why talk about extension of EWL in a thread about changing MRT names? I don't see the link.
Nov June 3rd, 2006, 09:14 PM i think he meant EWL, extending it from Joo Kun to the 2nd link. n if m'sia decides to have a theme park near the 2nd link they'd proabably make alot of money from s'poreans.Ah, the EWL is a different story since it's actually stretching to Tuas. I was confused when I saw the ERL... that's on the opposite side of the island.
As to why we are talking about extension of lines in a rename thread, someone was commenting about Joo Kun and that got hijacked to the topic of extending the line to Johor. Some moderator should really split up the off topic part into a new thread ;)
^tamago^ June 4th, 2006, 05:52 PM added information for those interested in the transport developments in the western-end corridor.
Opening of Boon Lay Temporary Bus Interchange
With effect from Sunday, 18th Jun 2006, the current 16-year-old Boon Lay Bus Interchange will be closed down for upgrading works.
All bus operations from Boon Lay will be shifted to the temporary bus interchange to the land south of Boon Lay MRT Station, opposite Jurong Point from that day onwards.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/samtlk/BNL/Map.jpg
Berth arrangement (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/samtlk/BNL/ServicesParkingLotAssignment.jpg)
kenmin August 9th, 2006, 08:24 AM recently went to wikipedia and saw a debate on whether some of the working names were official and should be included. anyone has access to such information? maybe get someone from LTA to provide all the working names they come out with.
JediAlf August 9th, 2006, 02:30 PM recently went to wikipedia and saw a debate on whether some of the working names were official and should be included. anyone has access to such information? maybe get someone from LTA to provide all the working names they come out with.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/ccl1to5-loc.pdf
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/index_proj_maprail.htm
These are already confirmed official names. :)
kenmin August 11th, 2006, 05:07 PM http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/ccl1to5-loc.pdf
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/index_proj_maprail.htm
These are already confirmed official names. :)
was referring to old names on NEL, NSL and EWL.
Did LTA ever wanted to name NE5 as Singapore River, or was it just a printing error on street directory? what are the names given to NS6 NS12 and NE2.
mrtfreak August 11th, 2006, 05:58 PM was referring to old names on NEL, NSL and EWL.
Did LTA ever wanted to name NE5 as Singapore River, or was it just a printing error on street directory? what are the names given to NS6 NS12 and NE2.
No idea on the NEL stations or the Woodlands extension stations. To my knowledge, no names have been allocated to NS6, NS12 or NE2.
There used to be a picture on Wikipedia that showed the MRT lines while the system was under construction. Someone removed it. From what I remember, Kembangan was Frankel, Bedok was Chai Chee, Tanah Merah was Changi, Commonwealth (current EW20) was Queenstown and Queenstown (current EW19) was Commonwealth.
^tamago^ August 12th, 2006, 04:23 PM Jurong East: Jurong/Jurong Town
Bt Batok: Bt Batok South
Bt Gombak: Bt Batok North
Choa Chu Kang: Bt Panjang
Choa Chu Kang: Choa Chu Kang North
Khatib: Sembawang
Bishan: Kampong San Teng
Novena: Thomson
Newton: Newton Circus
Somerset: Killiney
City Hall: St. Andrew's
Raffles Place: Central
Tg Pagar: Maxwell
Redhill: Alexandra
Queenstown: Princess/Commonwealth
Commonwealth: Queenstown
Buona Vista: North Buona Vista
Dover: Polytechnic
Chinese Garden: Jurong Lake
Lakeside: Corporation
Boon Lay: Jurong West
Tanah Merah: Changi/Bedok
Bedok: Chai Chee
Kembangan: Frankel
Kallang: Geylang
Lavender: Crawford
Bugis: Rochor
Expo: Somapah
Little India: Kandang Kerbau
Chinatown: People's Park
Potong Pasir: Sennett
http://experts.about.com/e/l/li/List_of_Singapore_MRT_stations.htm
RafflesCity August 13th, 2006, 12:11 PM ^^
Little India & Chinatown station names definitely pack more punch for me :yes:
redstone August 14th, 2006, 02:49 PM http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/ccl1to5-loc.pdf
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/index_proj_maprail.htm
These are already confirmed official names. :)
Sad to think of what might happen to the bungalows along Mt Pleasant
kenmin August 22nd, 2006, 06:30 PM Jurong East: Jurong/Jurong Town
Bt Batok: Bt Batok South
Bt Gombak: Bt Batok North
Choa Chu Kang: Bt Panjang
Choa Chu Kang: Choa Chu Kang North
Khatib: Sembawang
Bishan: Kampong San Teng
Novena: Thomson
Newton: Newton Circus
Somerset: Killiney
City Hall: St. Andrew's
Raffles Place: Central
Tg Pagar: Maxwell
Redhill: Alexandra
Queenstown: Princess/Commonwealth
Commonwealth: Queenstown
Buona Vista: North Buona Vista
Dover: Polytechnic
Chinese Garden: Jurong Lake
Lakeside: Corporation
Boon Lay: Jurong West
Tanah Merah: Changi/Bedok
Bedok: Chai Chee
Kembangan: Frankel
Kallang: Geylang
Lavender: Crawford
Bugis: Rochor
Expo: Somapah
Little India: Kandang Kerbau
Chinatown: People's Park
Potong Pasir: Sennett
http://experts.about.com/e/l/li/List_of_Singapore_MRT_stations.htm
I think this list comes from wiki.
redstone August 22nd, 2006, 07:45 PM Chinatown should be Chinatown of Kreta Ayer. Why on earth suggest People's Park... :? Hmm
Raffles Place is the most perfect name for it.
Nov August 23rd, 2006, 01:51 AM One of the entrances (arguably the most photographed one?) opens into the People's Park area (Complex, etc.). Of course People's Park is the name of a building and thus probably cannot be the name of a MRT station according to LTA's rules, so it was changed. Perhaps then, they thought of "reserving" Chinatown for somewhere else (e.g. Cross Street?).
kenmin August 23rd, 2006, 10:45 AM Chinatown should be Chinatown of Kreta Ayer. Why on earth suggest People's Park... :? Hmm
Raffles Place is the most perfect name for it.
I think u got it all wrong. the list actually showed the old names, not a suggestion for new names.
kenmin August 23rd, 2006, 10:49 AM One of the entrances (arguably the most photographed one?) opens into the People's Park area (Complex, etc.). Of course People's Park is the name of a building and thus probably cannot be the name of a MRT station according to LTA's rules, so it was changed. Perhaps then, they thought of "reserving" Chinatown for somewhere else (e.g. Cross Street?).
contrary to popular belief, people's park didn't get the name from the buildings nearby. the area itself was known as people's park in the earlier centuries. One reason why they didn't use Chinatown earlier could be due to the location of the station. Chinatown station was supposed to be located further upnorth somewhere around Furama, I think. Though, this area still falls under Chinatown in the old context, but to the modern context, this area is already outside Chinatown.
Nov August 23rd, 2006, 03:46 PM ...Chinatown station was supposed to be located further upnorth somewhere around Furama, I think. Though, this area still falls under Chinatown in the old context, but to the modern context, this area is already outside Chinatown.
Wouldn't that make it too close to Clarke Quay? Or is that why they named the station Clarke Quay eventhough it's situated at Boat Quay, so that the Boat Quay name can be used for the Furama area? :confused:
kenmin September 2nd, 2006, 07:37 AM Wouldn't that make it too close to Clarke Quay? Or is that why they named the station Clarke Quay eventhough it's situated at Boat Quay, so that the Boat Quay name can be used for the Furama area? :confused:
Because there was on Clarke Quay station at first. added in later so they shifted Chinatown station further south.
kenmin October 6th, 2006, 07:40 PM Since BFC will be known as Marina Bay Financial Centre, will the MRT station be renamed as Financial Centre Station instead of Landmark station. Till now, I still don't understand why it's called Landmark. Were they expecting a landmark to be built there?
RafflesCity October 8th, 2006, 02:11 PM Since BFC will be known as Marina Bay Financial Centre, will the MRT station be renamed as Financial Centre Station instead of Landmark station. Till now, I still don't understand why it's called Landmark. Were they expecting a landmark to be built there?
I also find such a name a bit strange...I mean what landmark is going to be built there that will be the landmark of all landmarks in Singapore?
Unless something built there really breaks all the rules I dont see why they chose such a name. Or maybe its just a working name.
Perhaps something like Marina Promontory or Marina Central might be better....and Marina Bay does seem less suitable as a name compared to the 2future stations of the DTE.
brianlee October 20th, 2006, 04:06 PM Circle Line
Telok Blangah - sounds awkward, abit to long and may be quite difficult for foreigners to read, pronounce or remember... (but I'm not so sure whether they have decided on this name yet)......can be called Henderson cos Henderson is nearby
Farrer Road - Farrer Road sounds to long......maybe Farrer (but Farrer a bit to fair leh)
Marymount - don't know why they named it Marymount...must be cos of it's location in a place called Marymount???
Stadium - should be given the same name as what the new sports hub is called......
Promenade - Promenade or Millenia? I find Millenia better
Dhoby Ghaut - As it is going to be the largest and most complex station and maybe the most heavily used (plus it is the Mortheast Line's flagship station), it can be called Central (like those in New York and Hong Kong)......but this is just a suggestion.
Mr.ASAP October 20th, 2006, 07:26 PM Marymount - don't know why they named it Marymount...must be cos of it's location in a place called Marymount???
yup that station is located along Marymount.... actually it should be renamed to Raffles Village because its built just next to RI, RJC and soon to come RGS.........:doh:
Stadium - should be given the same name as what the new sports hub is called......
Promenade - Promenade or Millenia? I find Millenia better
agreed...stadium sounds extremely awkward
nicholasliha October 21st, 2006, 06:14 AM ew raffles village? i think that raffles is a silly sounding name anyway. it sounds like lucky draw tickets. the "86th Bishan District Lottery Raffle!" anyway it'll be too much elitist aggrandisement for singapore's premium academic brand. next you know HC is going to launch its very own HCL - HwaChongLine serving all its students. and AC will go international.
Mr.ASAP October 21st, 2006, 06:39 AM LOL of course that Raffles village name was given to compare with Saint Andrews village lol... if ever renamed, the govt will brand it wilth a very prestigious name.......or something like the Condo opposite, Rafflesia etc
HCL? maybe for LRT only! :D
another train station is nicoll highway, Nicoll alone will sound better
kenmin October 21st, 2006, 06:01 PM yup that station is located along Marymount.... actually it should be renamed to Raffles Village because its built just next to RI, RJC and soon to come RGS.........:doh:
It's still a distance away compared to Shunfu Estate which is sited just beside the MRT station. That's why I prefer Shunfu to Marymount. They chose Marymount in the end cos they said it's more well known though this name wasn't even 1 of the 2 options given during the poll.
littlearea October 22nd, 2006, 09:17 AM Circle Line
Telok Blangah - sounds awkward, abit to long and may be quite difficult for foreigners to read, pronounce or remember... (but I'm not so sure whether they have decided on this name yet)......can be called Henderson cos Henderson is nearby
Farrer Road - Farrer Road sounds to long......maybe Farrer (but Farrer a bit to fair leh)
Marymount - don't know why they named it Marymount...must be cos of it's location in a place called Marymount???
Stadium - should be given the same name as what the new sports hub is called......
Promenade - Promenade or Millenia? I find Millenia better
Dhoby Ghaut - As it is going to be the largest and most complex station and maybe the most heavily used (plus it is the Mortheast Line's flagship station), it can be called Central (like those in New York and Hong Kong)......but this is just a suggestion.
Northeast Line not Mortheast Line.
brianlee October 22nd, 2006, 02:04 PM typo lah....
erstr December 17th, 2006, 04:57 PM Jurong East: Jurong/Jurong Town
Choa Chu Kang: Bt Panjang
Choa Chu Kang: Choa Chu Kang North
Expo: Somapah
It should be Yew Tee for CCK North.
The real Bukit Panjang is actually at the northern side of Bukit Gomak, opposite Phoenix Station. Bukit Panjang seems possible for Choa Chu Kang then.
The town of Bukit Panjang was named Zhenghua.
Somapah is the name of the area around Expo.
littlearea December 18th, 2006, 01:53 AM Harbourfront change to Vivocity.
Nov December 18th, 2006, 06:36 PM Harbourfront change to Vivocity.
Nope, they can't do that. LTA rules does not allow naming MRT stations after commercial buildings (but landmarks, e.g. City Hall, Stadium is OK).
What will happen if the owners of Vivocity decides to one day rename the building to something else (e.g. Lee Kuan Yew Shopping Centre)? Would it mean they have to rename the MRT station too? That's why the LTA does not permit naming of MRT stations after commercial buildings.
RafflesCity December 19th, 2006, 01:57 AM I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind Landmark station...
mrtfreak December 19th, 2006, 07:04 AM I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind Landmark station...
My rationale is that since the station is located near the Sail, which in itself is a landmark, they gave the station this name for the time being rather than something long like Marina Central Boulevard etc. Landmark is short and easy to remember. It is, after all, only a temporary name.
RafflesCity December 19th, 2006, 07:16 AM oh I didnt realise it was temporary...actually that area is part of the Central Subzone of the Downtown Core Planning Area.
redstone December 19th, 2006, 07:30 AM English names aside, hope they come up with good Mandarin names. The phoenetic translation of 'Boulevard' sounds like "being rotten".
Kit December 24th, 2006, 05:59 PM I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind Landmark station...
After 12,000 entries, $3,000 worth of prizes, they named the budget terminal "The Budget Terminal". I sure am hell curious about that one too.
builder1010 December 26th, 2006, 04:38 AM I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind Landmark station...
URA intends to build a landmark in the central promontory. the trianular open space in front of MBFC
kenmin April 6th, 2007, 09:12 AM Should Landmark station be renamed as Central Station since it's located above Central Boulevard? The only problem is Central will give ppl a feeling that it's a big interchange, instead of a small station.
ddes April 6th, 2007, 07:04 PM Me thinks CCL's Esplanade station and Landmark station should be renamed City Hall and Raffles Place respectively. The CCL stations are ridiculously near to the NSL/EWL stations. If they can link Outram Park NEL to NSL line, I can't see why they have to name Esplanade and Landmark as seperate stations. Wastage of names only.
And What's with NEL Farrer Park and CCL Farrer Road? They aren't even remotely close to each other.
redstone April 6th, 2007, 07:16 PM And What's with NEL Farrer Park and CCL Farrer Road? They aren't even remotely close to each other.
It's the historic names of the areas, both named after Farrer.
kenmin April 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM Me thinks CCL's Esplanade station and Landmark station should be renamed City Hall and Raffles Place respectively. The CCL stations are ridiculously near to the NSL/EWL stations. If they can link Outram Park NEL to NSL line, I can't see why they have to name Esplanade and Landmark as seperate stations. Wastage of names only.
They have diff names because they are not linked together internally. It's going to be more confusing if they have the same name.
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