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Redalinho March 23rd, 2009, 10:10 PM http://www.yabiladi.com/article-politique-1721.html
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Elles affirment que des personnalités haut placées poussent vers la rupture des relations diplomatiques avec l'Irak. Pour prosélytisme chiite également.
Argument : l'Irak ne serait qu'une base arrière de l'Iran.
Un débat houleux serait en cours sur la pertinence d'une nouvelle annonce de rupture diplomatique. Les timings seraient trop rapprochés. L'affaire ne fait donc que commencer.
Rabat with love March 23rd, 2009, 11:32 PM pas de probléme , du moment que ca sera benefique pr notre pays
moroccan_che March 23rd, 2009, 11:41 PM I will change my nationality if dak la9re3 dyal fassi take such a decision.
tvfoudres March 24th, 2009, 12:14 AM ça ne change absolument rien pour le Maroc, l'unité du monde musulman n'est qu'une utopie. Quand je vois certains pays rétrograde dans ce "monde musulman" je me dis que ce n'est pas plus mal.
Ce qui me gène ce sont les raisons données par l'état qui sont selon moi, que de simples excuses pour ne pas dire la vérité.
Zakaria March 24th, 2009, 12:26 AM I will change my nationality if dak la9re3 dyal fassi take such a decision.
Why? do reconige the American parlement of Irak led by Maliki:nuts:
Shapoor March 24th, 2009, 12:39 AM No matter how low the importance of relations between these countries are, cutting ties with a nation is a sign of disrespect in the international community and these action will have consequences especially between muslim nations which judge eachother's actions in detail.
Desertlife March 24th, 2009, 01:46 AM No matter how low the importance of relations between these countries are, cutting ties with a nation is a sign of disrespect in the international community and these action will have consequences especially between muslim nations which judge eachother's actions in detail.
Not answering Moroccan authorities why Iran behaved such a way against Morocco for one week when Morocco expressed it sympathy with Bahrain is also is a sign of stupidity and arrogance and disrespect..
Even super powers don t behave that way.
reda
malek a s7bi katir man lmaqla ? wa malek asahbi gales katfta7 polls ? 7ta yatzad o samih mas3oud..
Desertlife March 24th, 2009, 01:48 AM I will change my nationality if dak la9re3 dyal fassi take such a decision.
Go to Iraq or Iran instead
Skysultan March 24th, 2009, 01:50 AM Morocco is now on the top 10 most ridiculous countries in the world
Not pround of what my country is doing
Skysultan March 24th, 2009, 01:52 AM Go to Iraq or Iran instead
You have no critical thinking skills when it's about Morocco
that's ridiculous !
Too much nationalism kills nationalism
aaabbbccc March 24th, 2009, 01:53 AM I love morocco but what the hell is wrong with the polititians of morocco ???
Skysultan March 24th, 2009, 01:54 AM pas de probléme , du moment que ca sera benefique pr notre pays
Tu parles de quel bien?
The day we'll maybe cut our relations with Saudi Arabia & Israel
aaabbbccc March 24th, 2009, 02:09 AM why is morocco cutting relations with irak too ??
because of shia islam ? come on that is so stupid there is got to be another reason for that
Shapoor March 24th, 2009, 02:10 AM Not answering Moroccan authorities why Iran behaved such a way against Morocco for one week when Morocco expressed it sympathy with Bahrain is also is a sign of stupidity and arrogance and disrespect..
Even super powers don t behave that way.
reda
malek a s7bi katir man lmaqla ? wa malek asahbi gales katfta7 polls ? 7ta yatzad o samih mas3oud..
First of all, Iran apologized. As you know Bahrain used to be part of Iran but that does not mean officials can talk in such way. Bahrain did not cut its ties and got on with Iran but Morroco did the opposite. First they said they've done it to defend bahrain, then they said it was because Iran insulted them (I'd like to know where they get that from) and then they said Iran is trying to spread shi'ism (quite a ridicilous remark), there's clearly something else behind this issue and as wonderXman said in the other thread: "I think Morocco wants the approval of the Jewish lobby in the US. It is its key into regaining back Western Sahara (at least in Moroccan officials pov)" and I think it may be true to some point.
aaabbbccc March 24th, 2009, 02:12 AM First of all, Iran apologized. As you know Bahrain used to be part of Iran but that does not mean officials can talk in such way. Bahrain did not cut its ties and got on with Iran but Morroco did the opposite. First they said they've done it to defend bahrain, then they said it was because Iran insulted them (I'd like to know where they get that from) and then they said Iran is trying to spread shi'ism (quite a ridicilous remark), there's clearly something else behind this issue and as wonderXman said in the other thread: "I think Morocco wants the approval of the Jewish lobby in the US. It is its key into regaining back Western Sahara (at least in Moroccan officials pov)" and I think it may be true to some point.
the sahara issue could be the real reason ?? mmm I wonder about that
Desertlife March 24th, 2009, 02:22 AM You have no critical thinking skills when it's about Morocco
that's ridiculous !
Too much nationalism kills nationalism
First off , i don t need you to teach me skills about critical thinking..it looks like you r the one who needs to be taught that skill.
It s not Morocco that is trying to spead political wahabism (Iran-political shiism in this case) the muslim world..
I m not the type that can be brainwashed by the Iranian propaganda and that they are going to wipe out israel of the map :lol::lol: they defend muslims bla bla .... In fact they are defending their interests...that is just BS they fool ppl like you with. If you go back to 2002, the Iranians themselves were boasting that without their help,the US could not invade Afghanstan and thus defeat the Taliban because they are sunnis. How islamic is that..pfffffffffff
Moroccans don t make a difference between a sunni and shii .They just know that iran and iraq are muslim countries...I don t want that virus of religious sectarianism like in Iraq and Lebanon to spread in Morocco and start hearing in the news that a shii mosque was blown up in Tangier or Casablanca.
I have questions for you...why Iran is not backing the Sheshenians in Russia ??
Tell me when was the last time an Iranian died for Palestinian cause ? give me their names..
MoroccanChica March 24th, 2009, 05:32 AM I think people overestimate the Moroccan-Israeli ties. For example, after Morocco closed its embassy in Caracas everyone assumed it was related to Venezuela kicking out their Israeli ambassador forgetting about how Bolivia closed its embassy in Egypt. As for Iran, it clashes with Israel but it's also considered a threat by Morocco's Gulf allies. Morocco is also taking actions against the spread of Shiism. I doubt Israel has much to do with anything.
According to this, there were TV reports in 2M and RTM about Morocco banning Shiite books. I didn't see the reports myself though.
http://www.bladi.net/forum/185794-maroc-interdiction-livres-chiites/
According to this, an Iraqi school in Rabat was closed after an Iraqi resident filed a police report after her sons were expulsed from the school for religious reasons.
http://www.emarrakech.info/Fermeture-de-l-ecole-irakienne-de-Rabat_a18519.html
The guessing game of who Morocco is going to cut ties with next is getting interesting :D I say Cuba :lol:
moroccan_che March 24th, 2009, 01:52 PM If this stupid governement care really about the religion and want to protect it.
why Don't he do anything to stop hunderds of christians who are now spreading christianity between amazigh people in mountains.
Tomb Raider March 24th, 2009, 04:06 PM That's so stupid, why is the government making crazy decisions these days ?
Rabat with love March 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM Tu parles de quel bien?
The day we'll maybe cut our relations with Saudi Arabia & Israel
oui si l'état vois que les relations avec l'iran portent un danger pour notre pays je suis 100% avec mon roi
l'iran pr moi ne représente rien du tt je m'en fiche carrement , ils nous rapportent rien du tt , de + ahmadinajed a tjr su faire la grande geule , pr que des gens comme toi se tourne contre leur patrie , qu'a fait ahmadinajed lors de la guerre de gaza !!! rien du tt alors qu'un mois avant il avé dis k'il va rayé israel de la carte , donc pr moi que cet iran va enfer
Rabat with love March 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM I love morocco but what the hell is wrong with the polititians of morocco ???
la politique c de la politique , chaqu'un ce bas pr le bien de son pays , ms des gens ici ne comprenent pas vraiment ce jeu la
Rabat with love March 24th, 2009, 04:23 PM I will change my nationality if dak la9re3 dyal fassi take such a decision.
ok lah y3awnek sir khoud jinssia dial iran wla irak
fo savoir ke une telle décision dois avoir l'accord du roi , et le roi 3aref mazyane massali7 dial lbled c tt
la prochaine fois matbe9ach tgOule change my nationality katjib lina dal a bnadem
aaabbbccc March 24th, 2009, 06:52 PM are they using the banning of shia in morocco has an excuse for a special political interest ? could israel or USA be involved in this ? there is something fishy going on here
alot more than this shia business stuff
there are jews , christians in morocco but shia is not alowed ??? something is wrong
Desertlife March 24th, 2009, 07:30 PM are they using the banning of shia in morocco has an excuse for a special political interest ? could israel or USA be involved in this ? there is something fishy going on here
alot more than this shia business stuff
there are jews , christians in morocco but shia is not alowed ??? something is wrong
Jews,Chrisians don t want to throw the monarch...they don t blow themselves up in churches and synagogues..they respect the country rules...etc all political islam should be fought against whether it s shii or sunni....basta.
Shapoor March 24th, 2009, 09:33 PM ^^ So you are saying Shi'ism will turn people into terrorists and criminals? Although I am not muslim, as an Iranian I am highly offended by what you just wrote. The friendship of two countries does not mean direct spreading of eachother's religion.
intensivecarebear March 25th, 2009, 05:37 AM ^^yeah I don't really understand people who are trying to make a connection between the diplomatic relationship of Morocco and other Muslim countries with the spread of radical Islam.....
that political leaders would be so quick to cut ties with other countries over complete bs just shows how lazy and ignorant they are:ohno:
Mister79 March 25th, 2009, 12:51 PM There is nothing wrong with Shia Islam. Shia are more peacefull then Wahabists.
The most dangerous ideology is the Wahabisme that is spreading in Morocco etc thanks to Saudi influence and money. The Moroccan goverment is allowing Wahabisme in Morocco and that is creating radical youth.
Morocco is blaming the wrong country..
Mister79 March 25th, 2009, 12:58 PM Everybody knows that the radical people and some who want to use violence in North Africa are not shia, but people who are inspired by wahabisme etc.
Mister79 March 25th, 2009, 01:03 PM Saudi Arabia is behind this. Morocco is doing everything what Saudi Arabia is telling them..
Saudi Arabia has intern problems with Shia and is blaming Iran for this.
Morocco is forced to cute ties with Iran...
MoroccanChica March 25th, 2009, 08:06 PM But the Moroccan government does fight Wahhabism as well.
I read somewhere else that the government is lashing out at Shiism in Morocco to take away ammunition from Islamist PJD in the next elections. The PJD was complaining about the spread of Shiism.
Edit: Here is one other article about it
Rabat clamps down on Shiites, homosexuals
Moroccan government asserts moral values ahead of local elections due to take place in June.
By Hervé Guilbaud - RABAT
The Moroccan government has begun a clampdown on what it sees as threats to the kingdom's religious and moral foundations, with Shiite Islam and gays particularly targeted.
"At stake is the image of the state," Mohamed Darif, an expert on Islamic movements in Morocco, said.
"The authorities are seeking to prove that they are still the guarantors of the religious and moral values" of the country.
Last Saturday the Iraqi Baghdad school was closed down, with the education ministry declaring that the "educational system... was contrary to the provisions of private schooling" in Morocco.
"This decision," a ministry statement said, "follows a complaint made by an Iraqi citizen ... against the school's headmistress," who was accused of expelling three children "for confessional reasons" and of propagating "a particular religious practice."
This was a reference to Shiite Islam, whereas Morocco overwhelmingly observes the moderate Sunni Malekite form of the religion.
The independent Arabic-language newspaper Al Jarida Al Aoula has reported that dozens of people suspected of having Shiite sympathies have been arrested since Friday in Tangiers in the north, Essaouira in the south and Ouyazze 120 kilometres (75 miles) north of Rabat.
This is not the first time that Morocco has targeted Shiite Islam.
Foreign Minister Taeib Fassi Fihri recently attacked Moroccan associations seeking to develop Shiite Islam in the country with the backing of Iran.
"Morocco cannot accept that activities of this type be conducted, directly or indirectly, or via a so-called non-governmental organisation," he said, criticising an "attack on the foundations" of the country and on the "cement" of Malekite Islam.
The government's initiative extends to the moral sphere with the interior ministry declaring in a statement Saturday that it was determined to confront, "with vigour and in the framework of existing legislation all activities, writings and books seeking to attack the moral and religious values" of Moroccan society.
Government sources say this is a counter-attack against articles in the press calling for greater tolerance of homosexuality in Morocco.
The government regards homosexuality as contrary to social values and Islam, and Islamists, in particular the Justice and Development Party (PJD), have condemned the campaign and called for firm action.
Newspapers report that about 20 gays were recently arrested in the centre of the country.
A French feminist organisation was earlier this year refused permission to open a branch in Morocco.
Fouzia Assouli, a women's rights campaigner, said the new emphasis on moral values was linked to local elections due to take place in June and the government's determination not to give Islamists an issue around which to rally.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/Default.pl?id=31147
Skysultan March 29th, 2009, 08:39 PM Maroc: cinq missionnaires étrangers explusés
Cinq missionnaires étrangers ont été expulsés du Maroc dimanche au motif qu'ils menaient une "propagande évangélique" dans le royaume, a annoncé le ministère marocain de l'Intérieur.
L'identité et la nationalité de ces "missionnaires venus de l'étranger" n'ont pas été précisées.
Selon une source proche du dossier, il s'agit de quatre Espagnols et d'une Allemande.
http://www.ouest-france.fr/ofdernmin_-Maroc-cinq-missionnaires-etrangers-expluses_-877466--BKN_actu.Htm
Tomb Raider March 29th, 2009, 11:31 PM Oui, je viens d'entendre parler sur Atlantique :ohno:
MoroccanChica March 30th, 2009, 05:29 AM Discriminating against Shiites, homosexuals and Christians all to make sure the Islamist opposition doesn't win the elections. :ohno: Maybe things were indeed simpler at the time of HassanII when Islamist parties weren't allowed in politics :dunno:
Skysultan April 2nd, 2009, 12:59 AM People forget that the founder of Moroccan state was Shiaa and that Moroccans were shiaas before the Almoravids
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