:banana:



wo0o h0o0o0 finally!! :banana:

Puncak Baru Project In Kampong Baru To Cost RM500 Million

KUALA LUMPUR, March 30 (Bernama) -- The Puncak Baru project, a mixed deveopment venture on the site of the Sunday market in Kampong Baru here, is estimated to cost RM500 million.

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique said the project on the land owned by City Hall (DBKL), provides a balance, by taking into account the needs of local residents and that of the property market.

He said that the project comprises four main components,a 60-storey condominium tower with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses as well as an integrated development for the Kampong Baru LRT station and business space or "Bazaar".

"The Puncak Baru project is expected to change and enhance the image of Kampong Baru into a modern village cum commercial centre with the same world status as that of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre or KLCC," he said at the ceremony to launch Puncak Baru in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Sunday market site here Monday.

The project was launched by the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Zulhasnan also hoped that the project would serve as the catalyst for the development of Kampong Baru as a whole.

Meanwhile, Naza TTDI chairman SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin said the project is expected to begin within three months and slated for completion in four or five years time.


-- BERNAMA

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Kampung Baru berpotensi jadi kawasan segi tiga emas - Abdullah


KUALA LUMPUR 30 Mac — Kampung Baru, yang terletak di tengah-tengah bandar raya, boleh menjadi satu kawasan “Segi Tiga Emas” sekiranya ia dibangunkan dengan pembaharuan yang cukup dengan prasarana daripada segi fizikal dan spiritual, kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Perdana Menteri berkata kawasan itu perlu dibangunkan bukan sahaja daripada sudut tempat penginapan sahaja tetapi juga daripada sudut ekonomi yang rancak dan bernilai tinggi di mana penduduk di kawasan itu boleh memanfaatkannya.

“InsyaAllah kawasan ini akan jadi tempat yang selesa dan segar. Ini akan jadi Golden Triangle (Segi Tiga Emas) yang baru,” katanya semasa melancarkan projek pembangunan Puncak Baru sempena pembangunan semula tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini hari ini.

Abdullah berkata pembangunan Kampung Baru juga perlu mengambil kira aspek alam sekitar selain mengelakkannya menjadi kawasan mundur dalam bandar yang mempunyai segala ciri-ciri keburukan.

“Yang penting ialah saya mahu melihat apabila dibangunkan, penghuni Kampung Baru yang mempunyai hemah yang tinggi dan memastikan tidak ada penjenayah, penagihan dadah dan kejadian lain yang boleh memburukkan kawasan dan masyarakat setempat,” katanya. - Bernama

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Hope it WILL NOT another Plaza Rakyat abandoned site! :cheers:

Very very tall

http://web7.bernama.com/bernama/newspic/ge/KL10_300309_PM_PUNCAK%20BARU_opt.jpg
MESMERIZED...Kampung Baru residents observing the Puncak Baru model after Datuk Seri Abdullah launched the Puncak Baru development project in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru, Monday. Pic: Azhar Pidek (semua orang syok)


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_P18jwhxVoF8/Sc7vdTknlkI/AAAAAAAAAbU/I2IwMvfyfIQ/s400/DSC01959.JPG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/zahirnya/pm.jpg

from BHarian online

Quite surprise indeed!...

^^eh, why the pasar minggu covered one ah? that's not 'pasar minggu' should be.....:(

^^i think that one is LRT station

Hope it WILL NOT another Plaza Rakyat abandoned site! :cheers:

this land owned by DBKL. so, not likely end up as Plaza Rakyat...

it is said that DBKL wants this project to be a 'pilot project' and hopes that it will have some kind of 'domino effect' on the land price around that area...

this land owned by DBKL. so, not likely end up as Plaza Rakyat...

it is said that DBKL wants this project to be a 'pilot project' and hopes that it will have some kind of 'domino effect' on the land price around that area...

Project developer is Naza TTDI. The same company behind platinum park

KLCC vs Kampung Baru
by ariff budiman
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ariffbudiman/3397858398/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/3397858398_e7dabafffa_b.jpg

kl rocks!i hope this project will go smoothly...cant wait another 5 years.WOOHOOOOO!!

Nampak macam tinggi. cecah 300 m ke yang 60 tingkat tu? nice design.:banana:

perghhhh! cun tak ingat

Wah! This is gonna be the next KL skyscraper cluster! Gonna compliment PTT

apalah gunanya berbangga pada pembangunan yang memusnahkan ikon kampung baru.

http://web7.bernama.com/bernama/newspic/ge/KL10_300309_PM_PUNCAK%20BARU_opt.jpg
hebat hebat!!!

500 million for 60 & 40 storey and nice design.


much better then ah beng developer who claim project cost billion ringits but the building is such a craps. :nuts:....

^^ ahaha :lol:
totally agree

500 million for 60 & 40 storey and nice design.

much better then ah beng developer who claim project cost billion ringits but the building is such a craps. :nuts:....

who is the ah beng? i forgot...:D

so, this Puncak Baru designed by Hijjas Kasturi, but looking at the rendering in Utusan Malaysia, it looks so similar to CIMB Tower@Jalan Raja Laut.

http://media1.malaysiakini.com/174/8199f79b894d934b59cd6c07c05d459a.jpg

who is the ah beng? i forgot...:D



one example is YNH...

craps design no prob as long there is a demand, can sell and make money..
only thinking of $$$$$$ .
and the stupid DBKL always prove the plan.


this also goes to house developer as well.
they build less quality house and make profit.
for example - AP Land.

http://media1.malaysiakini.com/174/8199f79b894d934b59cd6c07c05d459a.jpg

RM500m project to take off in Kampung Baru
Tuesday March 31, 2009

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/3/31/central/m_02puncak.jpg

The site: The Puncak Baru project will be built at this location.

KAMPUNG Baru in Kuala Lumpur can become a new “Golden Triangle” if it is redeveloped with sufficient physical and spiritual infrastructure, said Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

He said the area needed to be developed not only in terms of housing but also space to generate brisk and high value economy to benefit the people.

“God willing, this area can become a comfortable and invigorating place. It will become a new Golden Triangle,” he said when launching the Puncak Baru development project in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru yesterday.

He said the Kampung Baru development should also take into account environmental aspects besides preventing it from becoming an urban slump.

On Puncak Baru, Abdullah said it was not the only project in Kampung Baru because other development projects would follow later.

“There will be shops and complexes that will be maintained properly,” he said.

The Puncak Baru mixed-development project built on a 1.5ha site belonging to the Kuala Lumpur City Hall takes into account the needs of surrounding residents.

It comprises four main components, — a 60-storey condominium tower with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses as well as an integrated development for the Kampung Baru LRT station and retail space.

The RM500mil project will begin in three months and is expected to be completed in four to five years.

Abdullah said priority would be given to the Kampung Baru residents to buy the residential units.

Also present at the launch was Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique. - Bernama.

one example is YNH...

craps design no prob as long there is a demand, can sell and make money..
only thinking of $$$$$$ .
and the stupid DBKL always prove the plan.


this also goes to house developer as well.
they build less quality house and make profit.
for example - AP Land.

the stupid DBKL always prove the plan

^^nah, this is another one! how many times should i tell that there is NO law saying DBKL must approve based on design....

how to determine 'good' design anyway?

^^

ops....apologies on that.:lol:

apalah gunanya berbangga pada pembangunan yang memusnahkan ikon kampung baru.

Dumbass!!! You're so narrow minded.

Projek buka mata

Oleh Ahmad Shahrul Nizam Muhammad
ahmadshahrul@hmetro.com.my


http://www.hmetro.com.my/Tuesday/Setempat/20090331085403/mainpix
KAGUM...Abdullah diiringi Zulhasnan (kanan) melihat replika
Puncak Baru.


KUALA LUMPUR: Projek pembangunan komersial di tapak pasar minggu Kampung Baru, milik Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL), bakal membuka mata pemilik tanah di situ untuk bersama DBKL memajukan kawasan mereka pada masa depan.

Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, berkata pemilikan dan pembelian unit kediaman dalam projek berkenaan akan memberikan keutamaan kepada penduduk di kawasan terbabit kerana mereka yang tinggal di kawasan itu.

Beliau berkata, andaian kononnya ada penduduk yang menentang pembangunan itu tidak perlu dibangkitkan kerana apa yang penting, mereka mungkin mahu melihat pembangunan yang akan dijalankan.

“Saya yakin sebaik mereka (penduduk) lihat, mereka pun ingin kemajuan dan inginkan pembangunan tapi mungkin mereka was-was sikit.

apalah gunanya berbangga pada pembangunan yang memusnahkan ikon kampung baru.

Just being curius. Why people called it "iconic" kampung baru? What is it so special about this kampung? To me, just a normal kampung. And needs to give way for future developments. So i agree with DJ Jake. :P

Just being curius. Why people called it "iconic" kampung baru? What is it so special about this kampung?

u din know about KL history? ;)

u din know about KL history? ;)

Ya, not sure... please enlighten me. Haha

Dumbass!!! You're so narrow minded.

i agree with u :)

Just being curius. Why people called it "iconic" kampung baru? What is it so special about this kampung? To me, just a normal kampung. And needs to give way for future developments. So i agree with DJ Jake. :P

among thousands of kampungs in malaysia,i think kg baru residences get the most compensation from the goverment.money-money-money.

Ya, not sure... please enlighten me. Haha

this is the history copied from wikipedia.

actually the original area for kampung Baru is what they call 'Malay Agricultural Settlement (MAS)'

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Colonial British administrators gazetted Kampung Baru as a Malay Agricultural Settlement in 1900 to allow the Malays to retain their village lifestyle within the city.

Since then, Kampung Baru has become more than a village; it's glaring hold-out against development and modern-city living has turned it into a political symbol of Malay culture.

It already held a special place for Malay politics during the pro-independence movement that grew up after World War II. Anti-colonial protests were held there, and founders of Malaysia's dominant political party, the United Malays National Organisation, held their early meetings there.

New evidence revealed by the National Archives of Malaysia shows that UMNO has its origins at the Sultan Sulaiman Club in Kampung Baru. Culture, Arts and Heritage Minister Datuk Seri Dr Rais Yatim said the documents were unearthed recently when some work was being carried out at the club.

Kampung Baru, which sprawls over almost a square km (250 acres), also played a part in the May 13 Incident in 1969, where bloody racial clashes occurred between ethnic Malays and Chinese. The riots started after Chinese-led opposition parties marched through the village to celebrate their good showing in general elections of that year. New research (May 13: Declassified Documents on the Malaysian Riots of 1969) based on newly declassified documents at the Public Records Office in London, the book alleged that contrary to the official account which had blamed the violence on opposition parties, the riot had been intentionally started by the "ascendent state capitalist class" in UMNO as a coup d'etat to topple the Tunku from power.

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some historical fact saying the land was given by the Sultan of Selangor for free! (not the British)

wow..very interesting fact^^^^

Thanks, OshHisham. I learn something today.
Well, if you can find anything similiar to Kampung Baru elsewhere in Malaysia or KL outskirts, then i think nothing is special about this kampung except the SPIRIT of kampung baru in people's hearts. Just build a "ICONIC" memorial monument in Kampung Baru in the future, people will recall the history of kampung baru when they see it! :nuts::lol: This Puncak Baru must be built. :lol::nuts:
Just IMHO...

Thanks, OshHisham. I learn something today.
Well, if you can find anything similiar to Kampung Baru elsewhere in Malaysia or KL outskirts, then i think nothing is special about this kampung except the SPIRIT of kampung baru in people's hearts. Just build a "ICONIC" memorial monument in Kampung Baru in the future, people will recall the history of kampung baru when they see it! :nuts::lol: This Puncak Baru must be built. :lol::nuts:
Just IMHO...

Kampung Baru is the oldest kampung in KL (as old as KL itself). while other kampungs which born in the same age as Kampung Baru was gone.

the Kampung Abdullah Hukum is the latest old kampung which gone to give way for a modern development.

so, i can say Kampung Baru is the oldest and the LAST urban kampung.

it must be preserved not bcoz of emotional purposes but it is the history of Kuala Lumpur. it has big potential for tourist object one day (and even now!). so, keeping kampung baru as what it is (with some major rearrangement) is crucial for the image of Kuala Lumpur...the kampung is somewhat 'uniquely KL' :yes:

or else...people will only know KL for its 'fake' modern development just like other cities. so, what makes KL different then?

another lost malay village in kl..... hahahahha...... no more malay land in da city..... jual tanah n hidup merempat...... go on da devolapment..... pembangunan yang melampau....!!!

another lost malay village in kl..... hahahahha...... no more malay land in da city..... jual tanah n hidup merempat...... go on da devolapment..... pembangunan yang melampau....!!!

ello.. tanah project milik DBKL. bukan tanah milik individu. nape haprak sgt ?? pi baca balik berita dari post no.1 k.

juz make new decoration cukupla...... make more beutiful landscape..... not da tower..... goverment juz giv da people money to make da beautiful home la..... haiyo..... dun blame me on my comment.... i'm not narrow minded.... mana perlancongan yang nak ditonjolkan di kl..... juz enough for skyscraper..... many other city than kl can make new skyscraper.... see at ipoh..... dun ever hav any skycraper pun..... so buat la di ipoh... why at kl.... n also at malay land..... juz see at berjaya central park, grand duta hyatt, vision city and plaza rakyat..... all are abondoned..... who will we gonna blame..... any goverment want to take action on them.....???? no one..... so all people want to see more abondone building in kl...????

juz finish all stupid tower in kl first than make a new one.....

juz make new decoration cukupla...... make more beutiful landscape..... not da tower..... goverment juz giv da people money to make da beautiful home la..... haiyo..... dun blame me on my comment.... i'm not narrow minded.... mana perlancongan yang nak ditonjolkan di kl..... juz enough for skyscraper..... many other city than kl can make new skyscraper.... see at ipoh..... dun ever hav any skycraper pun..... so buat la di ipoh... why at kl.... n also at malay land..... juz see at berjaya central park, grand duta hyatt, vision city and plaza rakyat..... all are abondoned..... who will we gonna blame..... any goverment want to take action on them.....???? no one..... so all people want to see more abondone building in kl...????

:lol: projek tak jalan pun lagi dah cakap 'abandoned'. kelakarlah...

apa kata you duduk dulu kat KL ni....jalan pusing2 kampung baru. lepas tu g tgk Draft Plan 2020 for Kampung Baru...

lepastu baru boleh cakap banyak...tak gitu, boy?

only at kg.baru i can see ppl breeding ayam in KL.....ayam kampung...

kinda malaysia esthetic potrayed in the middle of urbanisation.

hope kg.baru will be preserved...save the ayam..
:lol:

:lol: projek tak jalan pun lagi dah cakap 'abandoned'. kelakarlah...

apa kata you duduk dulu kat KL ni....jalan pusing2 kampung baru. lepas tu g tgk Draft Plan 2020 for Kampung Baru...

lepastu baru boleh cakap banyak...tak gitu, boy?

betul betul betul

aiyo belum start pun dah macam gaduh

like wat Osh said design of a building is not at least a major criteria to get approval... other things like the plot ratio is more important

kampung or not, the land there is becoming very precious and am not surprise to see a new Golden Triangle build there decades from now

500million price tag is unrealistic for this scale of towers. similar new 40+ stories buildings around kl r commanding a region of rm500-670 million per contract. further away from citycentre like mont kiara projects too started to climb above rm500 million per single development. thats translate to construction cost about rm650-700psft. some developer n contractor r taking a safer boat this time, picking up for higher price to cap possible inflation arises when bullish economy is back in one or two year aheads.

another note is not many contractors r going fishing for big spending projects like this because money flow is tighening in the market. only the risky taker ll take the job but come with a premium price. i wouldnt be surprise you might hear the project cost balloons to few more hundred millions.


500 million for 60 & 40 storey and nice design.

much better then ah beng developer who claim project cost billion ringits but the building is such a craps. :nuts:....

which crap costing a billion ringgit u r referring to? or perhaps you come here with sarong kosong, talk empty?

James, can i say that the 500mil is very cheapo (or undervalued) for this scale of project near klcc?

my opinion is yes, cheap if you want to build a so called iconic tower. you need big budget for great design and expensive materials like building outer dressing.

a less iconic like grand hyatt project is already tagged at rm545million construction cost alone. take another look at kampung baru nearby spsetia sky residences (low rated design), it was sold at rm680psft last year, a bargaining price. two more blocks are launching later but market talk put at rm780psft selling price because of one thing, cost driving up although market is weak.

but hey, im not going to ruin this thread coz im not in the position to speculate here.

i wonder if they going to rename kg. baru as "the new village" like "the village" in new york?

but the RM500 mil could be from ridiculous demand from the landowners... but then again, the land can only be rented/sold to bumiputeras, so the demand is not as high as other places in kl...

i wouldnt be surprise you might hear the project cost balloons to few more hundred millions.


don't you know the land price in Kampung Baru is wayyy too cheaper compare to its neighboring area, say KLCC/Jln Tun Razak/Jln Ampang? that's why DBKL launching this project bcoz it is a waste (asset value) if they just let the kampung decayed.

actually the developer untung gila2 for this piece of land already.

Kampung Baru segi tiga emas baru
ARKIB : 31/03/2009

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2009/0331/Utusan_Malaysia/Muka_Hadapan/mh_02.1.jpg

Abdullah Ahmad Badawi melihat model Puncak Baru yang akan dibina di tapak
pasar minggu, Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur semalam. Turut hadir Zulhasnan
Rafique dan Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Kumpulan Naza, SM Nasarudin SM
Nasimuddin (kanan). UTUSAN / Mohd Naim Aziz

KUALA LUMPUR 30 Mac – Kampung Baru yang terletak di kawasan hartanah paling berharga di ibu negara akan menjadi segi tiga emas baru dengan pusat ekonomi bernilai tinggi jika ia dibangunkan dengan prasarana yang cukup daripada segi fizikal dan spiritual, kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Perdana Menteri berkata, pembangunannya bukan sekadar ditumpukan kepada kediaman semata-mata tetapi juga daripada sudut ekonomi bernilai tinggi yang dapat memberi manfaat kepada penduduknya.

‘‘Pembangunan Kampung Baru juga perlu mengambil kira aspek alam sekitar selain mengelakkannya menjadi kawasan mundur dalam bandar yang mempunyai segala ciri-ciri keburukan dan sesak,’’ katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian ketika ditemui pemberita selepas Majlis Pelancaran Puncak Baru Sempena Pembangunan Semula Tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini hari ini.

Turut hadir Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique dan Datuk Bandar Kuala Lumpur, Datuk Ahmad Fuad Ismail.

Abdullah memberitahu, beliau ingin melihat apabila kawasan itu dibangunkan, penghuni Kampung Baru mempunyai hemah yang tinggi dan memastikan tidak ada penjenayah, penagihan dadah dan kejadian lain yang boleh memburukkan kawasan dan masyarakat setempat.

Perdana Menteri menegaskan, projek pembangunan Puncak Baru yang beliau lancarkan hari ini dengan pembinaan yang kemas serta dilengkapi dengan landskap yang menarik akan menjadi mercu tanda Kampung Baru.

Projek pembangunan Puncak Baru akan dibina di tanah seluas 1.5 hektar milik Dewan Bandar Raya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL), melibatkan sebuah menara kondominium setinggi 60 tingkat mengandungi 392 unit kediaman dan sebuah bangunan 40 tingkat mengandungi unit pejabat selain tiga tingkat ruang beli belah dan perniagaan.

Projek bernilai RM500 juta itu akan bermula dalam masa tiga bulan dan siap dalam masa empat hingga lima tahun.

Jelas Perdana Menteri, penduduk Kampung Baru tidak pernah menolak pembangunan yang hendak dilakukan oleh kerajaan di kawasan tersebut.

Tetapi katanya, mereka ingin melihat dahulu pembangunan yang hendak dilaksanakan oleh kerajaan sebelum mengambil keputusan untuk bersama-sama membangunkan Kampung Baru.

‘‘Penduduk Kampung Baru tidak tidak mahu pembangunan yang akan menghimpit dan memaksa mereka keluar dari kawasan ini, mereka mahukan pembangunan yang akan memastikan warisan mereka dikekalkan.

‘‘Jangan buat andaian bahawa penduduk Kampung Baru tidak inginkan pembangunan dan saya percaya setelah mereka lihat pembangunan yang dijalankan oleh kerajaan, mereka bersedia untuk memajukan kawasan ini,” katanya.

Abdullah menegaskan, selepas pembangunan Puncak Baru, pembangunan di kawasan lain Kampung Baru akan dilakukan satu persatu.

'Usah spekulasi pendirian penduduk Kampung Baru'
Selasa, 31 Mac 2009

KUALA LUMPUR: Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi percaya penduduk Kampung Baru, di sini tidak membantah pembangunan penempatan itu, selagi mereka tidak terhimpit dengan kesannya atau dipinggirkan daripada menikmati manfaat daripada projek yang dilaksanakan.

Sambil meminta semua pihak tidak membuat andaian berhubung pendirian penduduk Kampung Baru, Perdana Menteri berkata, masyarakat di situ mungkin mahu melihat dulu kesan daripada pelaksanaan projek pertama di situ.

Kita tak payah nak buat andaian (penduduk menentang pembangunan). Mungkin mereka hendak lihat dulu apa pembangunan yang akan dibuat. Mereka pun inginkan kemajuan, tetapi mungkin ada was-was sikit... tak apalah. Isunya, penduduk di sini bersedia menerima pembangunan, itu yang penting.

Mereka mahu pembangunan dijalankan, satu persatu lah (pembangunan). Lepas kawasan ini, kawasan lain pula," katanya selepas melancarkan projek Puncak Baru di tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini, semalam.

Hadir sama ialah Menteri Wilayah Persekutuan, Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique; Ketua Setiausaha kementerian itu, Datuk Ahmad Phesal Talib; Datuk Bandar Kuala Lumpur, Datuk Ahmad Fuad Ismail dan Pengerusi Naza TTDI, SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin yang akan memajukan projek berkenaan.

Projek Puncak Baru di kawasan 11.48 hektar membabitkan pembangunan bercampur mengambil kira keperluan penduduk setempat dan kehendak pasaran, mengandungi empat komponen utama termasuk menara kondominium 60 tingkat menempatkan 392 unit kediaman.

Kampung Baru berpotensi jadi kawasan segi tiga emas: Abdullah
Selasa, 31 Mac 2009

http://www.bharian.com.my/Monday/Mutakhir/20090330155745/mainpix1.jpg

PERDANA Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi melihat dengan lebih
dekat replika Puncak Baru di Kampung Baru. Turut kelihatan Menteri Wilayah
Persekutuan, Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique (tiga dari kiri).
- Foto Nik Rosli Ishak

KUALA LUMPUR: Kampung Baru, yang terletak di tengah-tengah bandar raya, boleh menjadi satu kawasan 'Segi Tiga Emas' sekiranya ia dibangunkan dengan pembaharuan yang cukup dengan prasarana daripada segi fizikal dan spiritual, kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Perdana Menteri berkata kawasan itu perlu dibangunkan bukan saja daripada sudut tempat penginapan saja tetapi juga daripada sudut ekonomi yang rancak dan bernilai tinggi di mana penduduk di kawasan itu boleh memanfaatkannya.

"Insya-Allah kawasan ini akan jadi tempat yang selesa dan segar. Ini akan jadi Golden Triangle (Segi Tiga Emas) yang baru," katanya semasa melancarkan projek pembangunan Puncak Baru sempena pembangunan semula tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini hari ini.

Abdullah berkata pembangunan Kampung Baru juga perlu mengambil kira aspek alam sekitar selain mengelakkannya menjadi kawasan mundur dalam bandar yang mempunyai segala ciri-ciri keburukan.

"Yang penting ialah saya mahu melihat apabila dibangunkan, penghuni Kampung Baru yang mempunyai hemah yang tinggi dan memastikan tidak ada penjenayah, penagihan dadah dan kejadian lain yang boleh memburukkan kawasan dan masyarakat setempat," katanya. - Bernama

Kampung Baru ada potensi: Abdullah
Rabu, 01 April 2009

KUALA LUMPUR: Kampung Baru, yang terletak di tengah bandar raya, boleh menjadi satu kawasan "Segi Tiga Emas" sekiranya ia dibangunkan dengan pembaharuan yang cukup dengan prasarana daripada segi fizikal dan spiritual, kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Perdana Menteri berkata kawasan itu perlu dibangunkan bukan sahaja daripada sudut tempat penginapan saja tetapi juga daripada sudut ekonomi yang rancak dan bernilai tinggi di mana penduduk di kawasan itu boleh memanfaatkannya.

"InsyaAllah kawasan ini akan jadi tempat yang selesa dan segar. Ini akan jadi Golden Triangle (Segi Tiga Emas) yang baru," katanya semasa melancarkan projek pembangunan Puncak Baru sempena pembangunan semula tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini hari ini.

The site:
by Kimbo2006
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimbo2000/3404116118/

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don't you know the land price in Kampung Baru is wayyy too cheaper compare to its neighboring area, say KLCC/Jln Tun Razak/Jln Ampang? that's why DBKL launching this project bcoz it is a waste (asset value) if they just let the kampung decayed.

actually the developer untung gila2 for this piece of land already.

^^ im talking about the unrealistic construction cost, not development value. these r two different things.

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senyap2 terus announced big project...not like YNH tower, TA projects n 4 Seasons...cakap2 kosong :p....

another 60storeys condo project....cool huh!!

dis project by Naza group rite???

dis project by Naza group rite???

According to this news :cheers:

Puncak Baru Project In Kampong Baru To Cost RM500 Million

KUALA LUMPUR, March 30 (Bernama) -- The Puncak Baru project, a mixed deveopment venture on the site of the Sunday market in Kampong Baru here, is estimated to cost RM500 million.

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique said the project on the land owned by City Hall (DBKL), provides a balance, by taking into account the needs of local residents and that of the property market.

He said that the project comprises four main components,a 60-storey condominium tower with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses as well as an integrated development for the Kampong Baru LRT station and business space or "Bazaar".

"The Puncak Baru project is expected to change and enhance the image of Kampong Baru into a modern village cum commercial centre with the same world status as that of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre or KLCC," he said at the ceremony to launch Puncak Baru in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Sunday market site here Monday.

The project was launched by the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Zulhasnan also hoped that the project would serve as the catalyst for the development of Kampong Baru as a whole.

Meanwhile, Naza TTDI chairman SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin said the project is expected to begin within three months and slated for completion in four or five years time.


-- BERNAMA

macam tak percaya je dorang dapat...pakai duit bawah meja ke?? heheh... anyway tahniah...their 2nd big project after the platinum park

But I found nothing in their website >>> http://www.nazattdi.com/
even the news pun tak derrrr...

tunggu dan lihat je la.

500million price tag is unrealistic for this scale of towers. similar new 40+ stories buildings around kl r commanding a region of rm500-670 million per contract. further away from citycentre like mont kiara projects too started to climb above rm500 million per single development. thats translate to construction cost about rm650-700psft. some developer n contractor r taking a safer boat this time, picking up for higher price to cap possible inflation arises when bullish economy is back in one or two year aheads.

another note is not many contractors r going fishing for big spending projects like this because money flow is tighening in the market. only the risky taker ll take the job but come with a premium price. i wouldnt be surprise you might hear the project cost balloons to few more hundred millions.




which crap costing a billion ringgit u r referring to? or perhaps you come here with sarong kosong, talk empty?


its in the thread...go and find yourself.
lazy.

'Kami tidak tolak pembangunan'
2 April 2009
Oleh MUHAMMAD DAYNE AZMIN

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2009/0402/utusan_malaysia/Kota/wk_02.1.jpg

PENDUDUK Kampung Baru melihat cadangan pembangunan tapak Pasar Minggu
di kampung itu selepas majlis pelancaran projek Puncak Baru di Kampung Baru,
Kuala Lumpur, Isnin lalu.
KUALA LUMPUR 1 April - Peniaga-peniaga di tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru memberikan reaksi berbeza terhadap projek pembangunan kompleks Puncak Baru yang bakal bermula tidak lama lagi.

Tinjauan Utusan Malaysia mendapati kebanyakan mereka tidak menolak pembangunan di situ, malah berasa gembira dengan perhatian yang ditunjukkan oleh Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Namun, pada masa yang sama, peniaga-peniaga di situ melahirkan kebimbangan kerana sehingga hari ini mereka masih belum mendapat sebarang maklumat mengenai kedudukan mereka apabila projek itu dimulakan termasuk soal pampasan.

Seorang peniaga, Hashimah Ibrahim, 45, berkata, Kampung Baru sudah pasti akan berkembang pesat selepas ini tetapi nasib peniaga asal di tapak Pasar Minggu masih menjadi tanda tanya.

"Kami semua cukup risau dan takut kerana akan hilang mata pencarian setelah berpuluh tahun mencari rezeki di sini," katanya.

Kelmarin, Perdana Menteri merasmikan Puncak Baru sempena pembangunan semula Tapak Pasar Minggu yang dijangka akan menjadi segi tiga emas baru dengan pusat ekonomi bernilai tinggi.

Projek yang memakan kos RM500 juta itu melibatkan pembinaan sebuah menara kondominium setinggi 60 tingkat mengandungi 392 unit kediaman serta sebuah bangunan 40 tingkat dan tiga tingkat ruang beli- belah serta perniagaan dan pembangunan bersepadu stesen transit aliran ringan (LRT) Kampung Baru dan bazar.

Difahamkan, bazar berkenaan adalah untuk diisi oleh peniaga-peniaga kecil yang berniaga di tapak itu tetapi mereka akan dipindahkan ke lokasi lain sementara projek itu disiapkan.

Dibina di atas tanah seluas 1.5 hektar, projek itu dijangka siap dalam masa empat hingga lima tahun akan datang.

Hashimah yang juga Ketua Wanita UMNO Cawangan Pasar Minggu, Kampung Baru berkata, mereka memerlukan tempat untuk berniaga secara sementara jika tapak Pasar Minggu itu diambil untuk tujuan pembangunan.

"Tiada langsung sebarang surat rasmi atau perbincangan dibuat oleh pihak pemaju. Ke mana kami harus pergi apabila tempat ini dibangunkan nanti," soalnya.

Mariana Sutan Muda, 80, yang telah menjalankan perusahaan songkok selama 42 tahun di situ berkata, mereka mahukan pampasan kerana telah lama berniaga di situ.

"Saya bukan anti pembangunan tetapi biarlah dengan cara yang betul dengan tidak meminggirkan dan mengabaikan nasib kami," katanya.

Sulaiman Abd. Kadir, 55, pula yakin kerajaan yang ditunjangi UMNO akan membela kepentingan peniaga kecil Melayu di situ.

"Dengan adanya pembangunan Puncak Baru, banyak peluang ekonomi akan diwujudkan tetapi bagaimana dengan nasib peniaga asal Pasar Minggu?

"Saya amat berharap kerajaan dapat memahami kegusaran dan permasalahan kami yang tinggal dan berniaga di tapak Pasar Minggu ini," ujarnya.

Seorang lagi peniaga, Noritah Abdul Majid, 44, berharap peniaga di situ diberi peluang untuk menjalankan perniagaan mereka di Puncak Baru apabila ia siap sepenuhnya kelak.

"Kalau boleh, saya tidak mahu berganjak dari Pasar Minggu ini kerana saya telah 20 tahun berniaga di sini," katanya.

Herman Shah, 54, pula berharap kerajaan dan Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) dapat turun padang berjumpa dan mengadakan perbincangan dengan penduduk di situ.

"Kami memang mahukan pembangunan kerana ia adalah sebahagian kemajuan yang dimahukan oleh rakyat tetapi pada masa sama, hak kami yang merupakan peniaga asal di tapak Pasar Minggu perlu diberikan perhatian sewajarnya," katanya.

Pembangunan Kampung Baru perlu jadi kenyataan
ARKIB : 01/04/2009

"PEMBANGUNAN Kampung Baru juga perlu mengambil kira aspek alam sekitar selain mengelakkannya menjadi kawasan mundur dalam bandar yang mempunyai segala ciri-ciri keburukan dan sesak." Itu kata-kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi ketika melancarkan projek pembangunan Puncak Baru sempena pembangunan semula tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur, kelmarin.

Sudah diketahui umum bahawa tanah di Kampung Baru bernilai seperti emas tetapi wajah perkampungan tengah kota itu kelihatan lesu, kotor dan tidak teratur.

Itulah imej Kampung Baru yang menyakitkan mata dan menjejaskan identiti kawasan segi tiga emas di ibu negara.

Sebab itu kerajaan mengharapkan Puncak Baru yang mempunyai dua bangunan menara itu akan menjadi mercu tanda Kampung Baru dan membawa imej baru. Pun begitu agak terkilan rasanya apabila projek itu akan dibina di tanah seluas 1.5 hektar milik Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL), dan bukan milik penduduk tempatan.

Perdana Menteri meletakkan harapan penduduk Kampung Baru harus bersedia membangunkan kawasan tanah mereka setelah melihat pembangunan yang dijalankan oleh kerajaan untuk memajukan kawasan itu.

Seperti mana Abdullah, kebanyakan orang Melayu juga berharap selepas pembangunan Puncak Baru, pembangunan di kawasan lain Kampung Baru akan dimajukan satu persatu.

Kita mengharapkan perancangan pembangunan yang melibatkan tanah-tanah milik Melayu di Kampung Baru itu diusahakan daripada impian menjadi kenyataan.

Kita percaya, dengan pembangunan teratur, tidak mustahil untuk memajukan kawasan Kampung Baru menjadi ikon kemajuan bangsa, tanpa meminggirkan atau menggadaikan hak milik orang Melayu.

Isu pembangunan tanah rizab Melayu ini agak sensitif, namun dari satu segi, soal pembangunannya perlu difikirkan bersama supaya ia tidak menjadi 'harta statik' yang terus gagal memberikan pulangan kepada pemiliknya.

Sekian lama penduduk Kampung Baru berhadapan dengan tuntutan untuk membangunkan tanah datuk nenek mereka tetapi dilingkari pelbagai halangan. Terdapat tanah lot-lot tunggal yang dikongsi sehingga enam atau berpuluh-puluh pemilik.

Kadang kala sesetengah pemilik tidak mahu tanah mereka dimajukan langsung. Mereka mahu tinggal di situ atas sebab-sebab sentimental atau kerana tanah itu tanah pusaka.

Namun agak menyedihkan apabila melihat kawasan yang berjiran dengannya seperti Jalan Ampang, Jalan Tun Razak, Jalan Sultan Ismail dan Jalan Semarak telah maju dengan bangunan pencakar langit - Kampung Baru tetap seperti dahulu.

Cerita pembangunan Kampung Baru bukan baru dirancang sekarang tetapi sudah dua dekad diuar-uarkan. Namun pelaksanaannya umpama melepaskan batuk di tangga. Di manakah silapnya?

Sebab itu kita perlu mencari jalan dan formula baru. Apakah yang menyebabkan pembangunan di tanah seluas 96 hektar yang bernilai lebih RM2 bilion itu tertangguh hingga ke hari ini?

Jika punca masalah pembangunan kawasan itu ialah harga terlalu mahal yang diminta oleh kira-kira lebih 900 orang pemilik tanah Kampung Baru, maka cari formula strategik agar wujud suasana menang-menang.

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2009/0331/utusan_malaysia/Dalam_Negeri/dn_13.1.jpg

LAKARAN grafik pandangan Puncak Baru di Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur.
- Utusan Malaysia Online

macam tak percaya je dorang dapat...pakai duit bawah meja ke?? heheh... anyway tahniah...their 2nd big project after the platinum park

why did you come out with such nasty claim? don't be a typical 'malaysian'

its in the thread...go and find yourself.
lazy.

^^ no need. you wont find it because there is no such thing, lazy bastard. You can fool someone again, but not to me here. i hate lies.

why did you come out with such nasty claim? don't be a typical 'malaysian'


rilex ah jon :nuts::nuts:

sometimes i find this building a little similar to Menara Commerce

yup yup. agreed with u on that...

sometimes i find this building a little similar to Menara Commerce

I hope they have bigger masterplan for this, and make sure it's a city within a city.. not just typical development of a complex.

anyway, don't spoil this thread with politics please.

juz finish all stupid tower in kl first than make a new one.....

Just another stupid malay dude with crappy English. Org mcm ko la paling bodo n buat malu org melayu jer.

^^ erks????!!!! no need utk cakap org lain bodoh!!!

Just another stupid malay dude with crappy English. Org mcm ko la paling bodo n buat malu org melayu jer.

u just join this forum. dont show ur attitude here.

honestly nutin special with dis project xcept dat its a 60storeys tower...nutin special about the design!!!its not dat bad but not so cool either.... sapelah agaknya arkitek projekni!! i wish ken yeang can contribute sumtin :p

sometimes the render can be deceiving.just like movie trailer :)

honestly nutin special with dis project xcept dat its a 60storeys tower...nutin special about the design!!!its not dat bad but not so cool either.... sapelah agaknya arkitek projekni!! i wish ken yeang can contribute sumtin :p

didn't i mention before that this is designed by Hijjas Kasturi. kenapa tanya lagi?

apalah gunanya berbangga pada pembangunan yang memusnahkan ikon kampung baru.

Ikon mendenye? It's high-time kg.Baru needs redevelopment. The land value there is very2 high already. Kalau nak cakap ikon kg.br, cube cerita sikit ape ikon lagi nak simpan kat sane(besides the masjid etc.)? There's tonnes of Malay village all around our country. Kalau nk bagi pelancong tengok, bawakla diorang pg kampung betul2. Kan bolah tolong ekonomi desa kat sana. KL is our economic capital, we need to develop land in order to entice foreign investment. Of course, it is a good idea to gazette some parts of kg.baru to make it a historical area i.e singapore chinatown concept. but first, clean it up!

p/s: aku suka makan nasi padang kat kg. baru :-)

didn't i mention before that this is designed by Hijjas Kasturi. kenapa tanya lagi?

hijjas kasturi ke??? maybe hijjas kasturi dah patut pencen hehe..... his daughter serina hijjas kasturi can replace him..... she's very talented!!!

hijjas kasturi ke??? maybe hijjas kasturi dah patut pencen hehe..... his daughter serina hijjas kasturi can replace him..... she's very talented!!!

actually, in architecture firm, the designers are those employed architects . Encik Hijjas Kasturi ni is the Principle which his job is more on advising only. but overall, the concept and design bukan dia yang buat pun....

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2009/0331/utusan_malaysia/Dalam_Negeri/dn_13.1.jpg

LAKARAN grafik pandangan Puncak Baru di Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur.
- Utusan Malaysia Online

The site:
by Tonckens

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/04/07/10/08/3170827_800x600.jpg

actually, in architecture firm, the designers are those employed architects . Encik Hijjas Kasturi ni is the Principle which his job is more on advising only. but overall, the concept and design bukan dia yang buat pun....

True on the quote but I think he still directs his staff on the concept and design

Oh no there goes my soto jawa original stall!!!If this project if its well planned could be DBKL moment of glory and will be good for the future of kampung bahru!!!I suspect it has been planned long time ago because its not secara kebetulan the mosst under utilised LRT station is located just there.If not i see another wisma yakin and selangor mansion in the making..

i know, they give priority to Kg Baru residents... but I am so wanna get one unit there!!!

not sure how to buy one unit, went to nazattdi website but no mention yet about this, at least not yet


...anyway, kg baru always has some of the best malay food stalls/restaurants... even now with indo immigrants, you can get some of the best and arguably original indo food there, since the cooks come from there

Mercu baru ibu kota

Oleh RADZUAN HASSAN dan SUHANA VERU

Sejauh manakah Puncak Baru yang bakal dibina di Kampung Baru Kuala Lumpur dapat menjana ekonomi penduduk setempat dan ibu kota amnya?


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GAMBARAN artis menunjukkan bangunan Puncak Baru yang bakal dibina.

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BARU-BARU ini, bekas Perdana Menteri, Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi merasmikan pembangunan Puncak Baru yang dilihat bakal menjadi monumen terbaru di Kampung Baru khususnya dan ibu kota amnya.

Puncak Baru merupakan bangunan yang dirancang pembinaannya di tapak Pasar Minggu di Kampung Baru. Ia menjadi pemangkin pembangunan semula satu-satunya kampung tradisional di tengah ibu kota.

Abdullah percaya Kampung Baru bakal menjadi kawasan Segi Tiga Emas terbaru di Kuala Lumpur sekiranya ia dibangunkan dengan prasarana fizikal dan spiritual yang mencukupi.

Maknanya, Puncak Baru perlu dibangunkan bukan sahaja dari sudut tempat penginapan sahaja tetapi juga daripada sudut ekonomi yang mampu menjana ekonomi terutama kepada penduduk tempatan.

"Yang penting, saya mahu melihat apabila dibangunkan kelak, penghuni Kampung Baru yang mempunyai hemah yang tinggi dan memastikan tidak ada penjenayah, penagihan dadah dan kejadian lain yang boleh memburukkan kawasan dan masyarakat setempat," katanya.

Itulah impian Abdullah dan ramai penduduk serta peniaga asal di Kampung Baru menyetujuinya.

Cuma rata-rata mereka bimbang, hak dan keistimewaan mereka dirampas sekiranya ia tidak dilakukan secara telus dan adil.

Lebih merisaukan para peniaga di Jalan Raja Muda Musa di Kampung Baru tidak menerima maklumat mengenai pembangunan, tiba-tiba mengetahuinya selepas ia dilancarkan baru-baru ini.


Mereka mendakwa tiada surat dan makluman dari Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) mengenainya.

Ketua UMNO cawangan Pasar Minggu, Hashimah Ibrahim, 45, ketika mengulas mengenainya berkata, sebagai wakil peniaga, beliau tidak menghalang projek berkenaan, cuma kesal tidak menerima surat hitam putih mengenainya dari DBKL.

"Kalau boleh kami mahu DBKL dan pemaju mengadakan perbincangan agar kami mendapat gambaran jelas mengenai lokasi pemindahan.

"Kami harap perkara ini dapat diselesaikan segera demi kebaikan semua pihak," katanya kepada Kosmo! baru-baru ini.

Menurut Hashimah, usaha membangunkan kampung tradisional itu wajar tetapi biarlah ia dibuat menerusi perundingan semua pihak bagi mendapatkan persetujuan majoriti.

Bagi Mariana Sutan Muda, 80, pula, beliau akur dengan cadangan membangunkan Kampung Baru kerana ia sekali gus mengubah dan menjulang imej penempatan Melayu itu seperti lokasi lain di ibu negara.

"Malah, ini satu-satunya lokasi orang Melayu dapat memasarkan hasil mereka di bandar ini sejak dahulu lagi di mana kehadiran mereka telah dikenal pasti pengunjung setempat.

"Untuk itu, biarlah kepentingan peniaga kecil terjamin selepas pembangunan itu siap dibina kelak," jelasnya yang sudah tinggal di situ sejak tahun 1967.

Menurut Mariana, penduduk dan peniaga asal tidak membangkang dan tidak mahu melihat kawasan itu dibangunkan dengan bangunan pencakar langit semata-mata tetapi dalam masa yang sama, hak mereka perlu dipertahankan.

"Kami tidak halang tetapi jangan rampas hak penduduk yang telah lama tinggal di sini. Ini kerana setiap kali pemaju ingin melaksanakan pembangunan, penduduk seperti kami akan ditabur dengan pelbagai janji manis dan akhirnya, ia tinggal sekadar janji," katanya.

Kebimbangan mereka ada asasnya memandangkan sebelum ini, penduduk Kampung Baru sejak dahulu lagi sering 'digula-gulakan' dan sering kali menjadi mangsa setiap kali ada projek baru hendak dibina.

Malah ada dalam kalangan mereka hampir 'kehilangan' geran tanah kerana terpedaya. Nilai tanah di Kampung Baru tinggi harganya dan sudah lama 'diintai' pemaju sejak berdekad yang lalu.

Semasa pelancaran projek Puncak Baru diadakan, Kosmo! difahamkan, tidak ada wakil penduduk dijemput dan didakwa dilakukan secara tergesa-gesa.

Oleh sebab itu, wakil peniaga di kawasan berkenaan, Herman Shah, 54, bimbang kehilangan mata pencarian jika berpindah ke kawasan lain seperti yang diarahkan oleh pihak berkuasa.

"Kami hanya berniaga secara kecil-kecilan. Jika diberi ruang berniaga di situ (Puncak Baru) sudah pasti kami tidak mampu menjalankan perniagaan.

"Kami harap DBKL dapat menyediakan lokasi strategik berhampiran Kampung Baru agar peniaga kecil seperti kami dapat terus bernafas," ujarnya.

Puncak Baru adalah satu projek berskala besar yang menelan belanja sebanyak RM500 juta. Ia bakal dibangunkan dengan sebuah menara kondominium setinggi 60 tingkat yang menempatkan 392 unit kediaman, 40 tingkat unit pejabat serta tiga tingkat ruang membeli-belah.

Sementara itu, wakil Persatuan Peniaga dan Kebajikan Pasar Minggu (PPKPM), Mohamad Nadzri Abdul Hamid pula dilaporkan mempertikaikan pembangunan Puncak Baru dan mendakwa perbincangannya 'tidak telus' sewaktu pertemuan PPKPM dengan DBKL diadakan baru-baru ini.

Dakwanya, peniaga dan penduduk Pasar Minggu, Kampung Baru memang diberi peluang meluahkan rungutan mereka pada sesi pendengaran awam berhubung pembangunan semula kawasan mereka dengan kompleks Puncak Baru tetapi ia dibuat secara pertemuan seorang demi seorang.

"Perbincangan nampaknya tidak telus. Dulu, (mereka kata) bangunan dua blok 53 tingkat, kemudian kita dengar 60 tingkat pula. Kemudian, daripada 180 lot premis perniagaan (yang dijanjikan untuk PPKPM, kini sudah tinggal 56 lot sahaja. Kita pun nak tahu 56 lot itu milik siapa?

"Sehingga sekarang, tidak ada surat tawaran (menjelaskan) tentang 56 lot tersebut (milik siapa)," kata beliau.

Sejak pertengahan tahun lalu, kumpulan peniaga tersebut membantah usaha membangunkan semula Lot 25 Kampung Baru yang dianggap kawasan perniagaan terawal orang Melayu yang pernah dirasmikan oleh Perdana Menteri Pertama, Tunku Abdul Rahman pada tahun 1967.

Tapak perniagaan itu meliputi kawasan Pasar Minggu, gerai Mara, pusat kebudayaan Perbadanan Kemajuan Negeri Selangor dan deretan gerai makanan di Jalan Raja Muda Musa.


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PENDUDUK melihat replika model Puncak Baru semasa majlis pecah tanah di Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur baru-baru ini.

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PPKPM tidak berpuas hati kerana usaha mereka berunding dengan DBKL gagal walaupun Puncak Baru membawa kesan besar kepada kumpulan peniaga yang terlibat.

Apa sekali pun dilema pembangunan Kampung Baru perlu dirungkai segera. Ini kerana sekiranya dibiarkan tanpa pembangunan, Kampung Baru akan kekal seperti sekarang iaitu terus dihimpit pembangunan yang tidak bertepi.

Jika dibangunkan, Kampung Baru akan menjadi mercu tanda baru di ibu kota tetapi soal hak dan penduduknya pula dibimbangi akan dirampas.

Kemelut itu sejak dahulu menjadi isu dan semakin bertambah meleret dengan kemasukan parti politik yang menjuarai isu yang sama.

Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan dan DBKL perlu tegas kali ini termasuk memikirkan cara terbaik iaitu Kampung Baru dibangunkan dan hak penduduk tidak dinafikan.

Penduduk sebenarnya bukan menolak pembangunan kerana sejak dibuka pada tahun 1900 oleh kerajaan Negeri-Negeri Melayu Bersekutu dan Selangor semasa rancangan pembangunan semula Kuala Lumpur, Kampung Baru sudah diasak dengan pembangunan.

Dari sebuah kampung lombong bijih timah kepada sebuah hot spot di Kuala Lumpur, Kampung Baru kini dikenali sebagai tarikan pelancong terutama syurga gerai makan.

Meminjam kata Perdana Menteri yang baru, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak: "Kita perlu bersedia berubah atau rebah."

Justeru, ramai berharap kemelut Kampung Baru dapat diselesaikan dengan segera.

my opinion,kg baru should be modernised not developed.let the residence stay there and flourish the kg baru's economy.i preffer kg baru as a modern cultural center not another golden triangle business center.surely we can hv another golden triangle in other area of kl.

^^ abis, kalau penduduk kampung baru sendiri yang terlalu bebal dan bengap taknak berubah. takkan nak tunggu sampai depa berubah? kalo g kampung baru, sampah dok buang suka hati diaorg jer. jenis mentaliti kampung....

aku setuju kerajaan 'ajar' sikit org2 kepala hotak kampung ni. 'bersenang-senang dalam kesusahan'

I used to live at flat PKNS in Kampung Baru but that was like twenty years ago but back then..it was dirty, malu bila tengok tourist pegi...kotor! I hope things have changed abit since then?

^^ abis, kalau penduduk kampung baru sendiri yang terlalu bebal dan bengap taknak berubah. takkan nak tunggu sampai depa berubah? kalo g kampung baru, sampah dok buang suka hati diaorg jer. jenis mentaliti kampung....

aku setuju kerajaan 'ajar' sikit org2 kepala hotak kampung ni. 'bersenang-senang dalam kesusahan'

hmmm....aku mmg against kekotoran.in that case i have to agree with u.

salam...nice design by hijjas anywy,the master of form n conceptual...anywy,do we really need to spend rm 500 million?do we really need dat amount of money to generate economy of the local people?the uge tower can really save them?of courz the project can generate economy,but not sure it mostly will benefit the local,the people of kg baru..looking bck at other projct,well...anywhere in the world dat use this kind of slogan,to help n generate the economy of local people,mostly after it was dun,where was the local people?mostly there was banished or transfer to other places..or myb they will move away by themselves...why?coz they cant afford to survive..wether bznes or lifestye..or myb both..bsides,this kind of projct mostly benefit for some of people..the word 'pembangunan' n 'permodenan' r totally different n to help the economy of people of kg bru,dont really need those towers from my point of view,event small building that works well with the activities of the local people n really connect with the site n surrounding can help to achieve the aim..looked bck at most of 'medan selera' prepared by gov. all around m'sia..not all really works..why?coz the architect dont understand the need of the local people n their actvties...but myb hijjas know it well(i really hope)n his design strategy really works to help those people of kg bru...n made me wrong bout diz..n lets hope people of kg bru dont get sweep up from their own land...hop dat no one hurts by my comment,im 3rd yr archtectural giving my opinion:)

made me wrong bout diz..n lets hope people of kg bru dont get sweep up from their own land...

just curious,the villagers received compensation from the government right?

in regards to Pak Lah's comments, i actually thik that kg baru should just be preserved and modernised with new roads and tourist attractions etc rather than building skyscrapers in the middle of all landed houses

^^ it's goin to be a domino effect. remember PTT, when it was built, there was nothing there...

Baru = slum houses? Am I right? Then we also have a lot of Barus here. But we call it Squatter and barong-barong :D

Baru = slum houses? Am I right? Then we also have a lot of Barus here. But we call it Squatter and barong-barong :D

Baru=New !!

kampung baru houses are old traditional houses stand on their own land. it is not SLUM. but look like 'slum' due to house owners who don't know how to care their own house properly....

Baru=New !!

kampung baru houses are old traditional houses stand on their own land. it is not SLUM. but look like 'slum' due to house owners who don't know how to care their own house properly....

Yeap betul2. Kali ni aku setuju 100%. btw leml, we call SLUMS as SETINGGAN :)

yes,i think so...but dat money just temporary,n quickly gone...lets think bout future..money wont last long...

^^ it's goin to be a domino effect. remember PTT, when it was built, there was nothing there...

yeap,but not all this kind of project r succesfully done..this kg bru land r special land,so mny developer waiting for it for a long time.....im not sure wether this project truly for the local people....remember,politics all around in this country...anywhere in this world,if u looked back,all projct with this kind of intention mostly finished with local people going out,somewhere...sad ending for the local,good for sum...

^^ it's goin to be a domino effect. remember PTT, when it was built, there was nothing there...

in regards to Pak Lah's comments, i actually thik that kg baru should just be preserved and modernised with new roads and tourist attractions etc rather than building skyscrapers in the middle of all landed houses

yes...study bck all the strength n opportunity at the land n the people n use it to generate the economy for the local people of kg.bru..there must b sumthing spcial there i believe...lets look on positive sight...even the so called slum house also can be utilised as tourist attraction if we'r smart enuf to use it...did u think people from europe,us came here to se skycrapper?the got more on their country,they came to see these thing..the tradisional,vernacular,eclectic n the tradition n local...

sky crappers and physical development should be equalized with art n culture.we cannot just see those tarian melayu,chinese n indians or masakan org malaysia or kraftangan malaysia when talk about culture.malaysian should go beyond that.we should hv more aggressive art societies.that way...we can be different than other major cities in south east asia.yes,government need to be more open n give more freedom to youth societies n art movements.

sky crappers and physical development should be equalized with art n culture.we cannot just see those tarian melayu,chinese n indians or masakan org malaysia or kraftangan malaysia when talk about culture.malaysian should go beyond that.we should hv more aggressive art societies.that way...we can be different than other major cities in south east asia.yes,government need to be more open n give more freedom to youth societies n art movements.

this i said all these thing?no...but what u said was right,equalized wit art n culture...but what im tryng to say was do we really need those skycrapper?i dont think so,mayb beautiful landscape,bazaar,market that suit the activities n people in kg.bru n thing dat can really generate the economy of the local people r really need...but,with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses...did people of kg.bru able to own any of this?of courz it will generate money,economy,pleasant to eye,brand new landmrk,n brand new tourist attraction..but,did it will reach its original intention?to help people of kg.bru?even there was rumour that lot reserved 4 da local r gettin less than what they promised...happen even b4 puncak baru constructed,what will happen after,n future?:ohno:

There are lots of huge vacant areas in Malaysia than can build lots of huge buildings.

this i said all these thing?no...but what u said was right,equalized wit art n culture...but what im tryng to say was do we really need those skycrapper?i dont think so,mayb beautiful landscape,bazaar,market that suit the activities n people in kg.bru n thing dat can really generate the economy of the local people r really need...but,with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses...did people of kg.bru able to own any of this?of courz it will generate money,economy,pleasant to eye,brand new landmrk,n brand new tourist attraction..but,did it will reach its original intention?to help people of kg.bru?even there was rumour that lot reserved 4 da local r gettin less than what they promised...happen even b4 puncak baru constructed,what will happen after,n future?:ohno:

i still curious about how much does the government compensate the ppl of kg baru?

i still curious about how much does the government compensate the ppl of kg baru?

compensate what?

din you READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD the previous post saying that land BELONG TO DBKL!!!! tanah DBKL, nak bayar ke penduduk kampung baru apa kejadahnya?

asyik2 sibuk bising konon apa penduduk kampung baru akan dapat??! abistu, selama ni, penduduk kampung baru dapat apa?

kalo dah melayu kampung baru pemalas tu pi duduk rumah jer lah. org melayu lain nak maju, toksah sibuk nak jadi 'pejuang kampung' plak lah!

kerajaan dah lama dah nak tolong depa ni. tapi depa2 mangkuk2 ayun ni taknak tolong diri sendiri. apa nak buat? pi gasak lah...

contoh: kerajaan buat kawasan pejalan kaki cantik2 kat kampung baru, pastu si jahanam2 ni buat tempat letak kerusi meja dia. siap letak sampah lagi. sampai habis kotor.

sudah lah! takpayah nak jadik HERO plak kat sini. BOSAN LAH!!

this i said all these thing?no...but what u said was right,equalized wit art n culture...but what im tryng to say was do we really need those skycrapper?i dont think so,mayb beautiful landscape,bazaar,market that suit the activities n people in kg.bru n thing dat can really generate the economy of the local people r really need...but,with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses...did people of kg.bru able to own any of this?of courz it will generate money,economy,pleasant to eye,brand new landmrk,n brand new tourist attraction..but,did it will reach its original intention?to help people of kg.bru?even there was rumour that lot reserved 4 da local r gettin less than what they promised...happen even b4 puncak baru constructed,what will happen after,n future?:ohno:

yeah. go go 'HERO KAMPUNG BARU'

rilek la brader...aku cuma nak tau ade tak compensate..mmg la semua maklum tanah tu tanah DBKL.cuma nak tanya je.saper pulak yg nak jadi hero?aku peduli aper org kg baru dapat aper2 atau tak.cuma bila ader asik bising pasal org kg baru kena sweep off..so aku tanya la..bukan nak berpolitik atau aper pun.lagi pun,i setuju giler projek puncak baru ni.

THE SITE
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^^ i think nowadays we can see our art movement is getting very serious. It's slowly am getting awareness and hopefully will mark Malaysia as among the artistic capital.

but ok, let's stick to the construction updates :)

rilek la brader...aku cuma nak tau ade tak compensate..mmg la semua maklum tanah tu tanah DBKL.cuma nak tanya je.saper pulak yg nak jadi hero?aku peduli aper org kg baru dapat aper2 atau tak.cuma bila ader asik bising pasal org kg baru kena sweep off..so aku tanya la..bukan nak berpolitik atau aper pun.lagi pun,i setuju giler projek puncak baru ni.

bukan nko. sorang lagi tu.

oooohhh...ok.sorry.

Projek Puncak Baru dinanti
Oleh Umi Nadirah Abdul Rahman
uminadirah@bharian.com.my

http://www.bharian.com.my/Monday/Wilayah/20090413091543/mainpix
TAPAK yang bakal dibangunkan dengan projek Puncak Baru.

http://www.bharian.com.my/Monday/Wilayah/20090413091543/mainpix2

Penduduk sokong pembangunan asalkan tidak dipinggir

KUALA LUMPUR: Majlis perasmiannya sudah hampir dua minggu berlalu, namun projek pembangunan di tapak Pasar Minggu Kampung Baru di sini yang dinamakan sebagai Puncak Baru masih terus menjadi bualan di kalangan penduduk satu-satunya perkampungan Melayu di tengah-tengah kepesatan bandaraya Kuala Lumpur.

Dari Jalan Hamzah ke Jalan Raja Abdullah dan dari Juara Tomyam ke Nasi Lemak Antarabangsa, rata-rata projek pembangunan itu mendapat reaksi spontan penduduknya apabila ia diperkatakan.


Sama ada negatif atau positif, apa yang jelas Puncak Baru melenyapkan spekulasi yang bertiup kencang sebelum ini mengenai kemajuan di kawasan terbabit.

Biarpun sebelum ini pembangunan yang direncanakan di Kampung Baru mendapat bantahan kebanyakan penduduknya, namun masih ada sebilangan lagi berpendapat sebaliknya dengan harapan ‘biarlah pembangunan yang dijalankan tidak akan meminggirkan keistimewaan dan kepentingan mereka’.

Penduduk dan peniaga kedai runcit sejak 40 tahun lalu, Maimunah Abdul Ghani, 55, berkata pembangunan yang dirancang harus mengambil kira kesan dan manfaat yang bakal diperoleh penduduk setempat tanpa mengundang masalah di masa hadapan.

“Saya gembira kawasan ini dimajukan untuk pembangunan dan pembaharuan wajah kepada masyarakat setempat kerana kami di sini tidak pernah membantah sebarang pembangunan di kampung kami asalkan ia tidak memusnahkan masa depan generasi kami.

“Apa yang diharapkan adalah pihak yang berkenaan menjalankan kemajuan dan pembangunan yang dirancang dengan sempurna dan bertanggungjawab supaya penduduk tidak merasa dipinggirkan,” katanya ketika ditemui di sini, baru-baru ini.

Projek Puncak Baru di kawasan 11.48 hektar membabitkan pembangunan bercampur mengambil kira keperluan penduduk setempat dan kehendak pasaran, mengandungi empat komponen utama termasuk menara kondominium 60 tingkat menempatkan 392 unit kediaman.

Seorang penduduk yang dibesarkan di Kampung Baru, Ahmad Baki Husin, 71, berkata sebarang bentuk pembangunan hendaklah mengikut situasi semasa supaya ia dapat memuaskan hati semua pihak terutama penduduk setempat.

“Kampung ini mempunyai pelbagai keistimewaan dan memori yang tidak dapat dilupakan selamanya terutama kepada golongan seperti saya yang dibesarkan sejak lebih tujuh dekad lalu dan kerana itu pembangunan yang ingin dilakukan adalah disokong tetapi perlu dihalusi kepentingan semasa penduduk.

“Justeru, saya amat berharap supaya hak dan manfaat daripada projek yang dijalankan dapat dikongsi bersama tanpa meminggirkan kami yang selalu mengharapkan pembangunan terbabit dapat memberi kebaikan kepada anak cucu kami di masa hadapan,” katanya.

Peniaga kedai makan, Mazlan Sharifuddin, 50, berkata kemajuan yang bakal dibangunkan di kampung mereka secara tidak langsung membuka pendapatan kepada peniaga selain dapat memperkenalkan kemajuan kawasan itu kepada penduduk lain.

yeah. go go 'HERO KAMPUNG BARU'

com'on dont go emotional hisham,be wise...its not tryng to b hero,but tryng to think wht could be done n what not...if all people like you,im afraid we all going to be saying the f word n tryng to humiliate each other...this is the place to discuss..then lets discuss properly,respect each other....sorry to say,its just not right to act like this

compensate what?

din you READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD the previous post saying that land BELONG TO DBKL!!!! tanah DBKL, nak bayar ke penduduk kampung baru apa kejadahnya?

asyik2 sibuk bising konon apa penduduk kampung baru akan dapat??! abistu, selama ni, penduduk kampung baru dapat apa?

kalo dah melayu kampung baru pemalas tu pi duduk rumah jer lah. org melayu lain nak maju, toksah sibuk nak jadi 'pejuang kampung' plak lah!

kerajaan dah lama dah nak tolong depa ni. tapi depa2 mangkuk2 ayun ni taknak tolong diri sendiri. apa nak buat? pi gasak lah...

contoh: kerajaan buat kawasan pejalan kaki cantik2 kat kampung baru, pastu si jahanam2 ni buat tempat letak kerusi meja dia. siap letak sampah lagi. sampai habis kotor.

sudah lah! takpayah nak jadik HERO plak kat sini. BOSAN LAH!!

yeah,malay wanna go furhter right?sorrt2say,if u was right,malay of kg.bru 'pemalas'..is it the way to teach them?it is the solution?ever heard of win-win situation?helping each other?our own malay must b helped,but not meant to 'manja kan' them..but help them to open up their eyes, 'pi gasak lah.'that u said can create lot of trouble..be wise of wht we'r saying...'contoh: kerajaan buat kawasan pejalan kaki cantik2 kat kampung baru, pastu si jahanam2 ni buat tempat letak kerusi meja dia. siap letak sampah lagi. sampai habis kotor.' what u said r one of constrain..but believe,in architecture design,smart thingking n idea can turn constrain to be oppurtinity,if dat the problm,mayb simple casual warong under beautiful roof structured can b proposed rather than just using those colorful big umbrella,it is like the normal warong but a proper one n can be identical,n one of attraction to outsiders as we'r malasian love to eat at warong,well just an idea...who knows,the most stupid idea today can be the best idea for the next 10 years,that i i;'ve learn in architectre...hop u dont get mad again,well keep it cool...:)

kalau bagi projek utk kroni... baik tak payah la..... if the project help the poor people its good.... its good for malay people yang poor.... dun just let jutawan poket penuh jer live at the condo....... bring back the life of poor people at kampung baru.... baru betul..... jangan x pasal2 orang kampung terpinggir... kedai2 disewa jadi mahal like klcc.... terus lenyap business orang melayu at kampung baru.... (i not hate tat project yarr....) but bring back the malay economy to be top as same like chinese and indian....

Personally I hope this project won't be materialised.

I can safely say that none of the effected small business owners will afford to rent a shoplot in the new complex and there could also be none of those who had to move out or having their houses (which were built on the DBKL land proposed for the project) demolished to make way for this project can afford to own any of the 392 unit apartments in the 60 storey tower.

I agree with some comments above that there are other ways to help the economy and people of that area. Building a MYR 500 million project is not the only solution and it is definitely not the smartest.

I also have an instinct that should this one received objections from certain influential parties or an evidence of corruption surfaces from the tender/award process, it might be cancelled, considering how vocal and sensitive the Kampung Bahru people can get when it comes to their well being.

Plus, this is another project of the now FORMER Premier.

yeah,malay wanna go furhter right?sorrt2say,if u was right,malay of kg.bru 'pemalas'..is it the way to teach them?it is the solution?ever heard of win-win situation?helping each other?our own malay must b helped,but not meant to 'manja kan' them..but help them to open up their eyes, 'pi gasak lah.'that u said can create lot of trouble..be wise of wht we'r saying...'contoh: kerajaan buat kawasan pejalan kaki cantik2 kat kampung baru, pastu si jahanam2 ni buat tempat letak kerusi meja dia. siap letak sampah lagi. sampai habis kotor.' what u said r one of constrain..but believe,in architecture design,smart thingking n idea can turn constrain to be oppurtinity,if dat the problm,mayb simple casual warong under beautiful roof structured can b proposed rather than just using those colorful big umbrella,it is like the normal warong but a proper one n can be identical,n one of attraction to outsiders as we'r malasian love to eat at warong,well just an idea...who knows,the most stupid idea today can be the best idea for the next 10 years,that i i;'ve learn in architectre...hop u dont get mad again,well keep it cool...:)

yeah good. keep debating about kampung baru like those idiots did decades ago and solved nothing. talk, talk, talk. FYI, people talks about kg baru since ever, and you want to continue it? go ahead.

yeah good. keep debating about kampung baru like those idiots did decades ago and solved nothing. talk, talk, talk. FYI, people talks about kg baru since ever, and you want to continue it? go ahead.

debate?this is not a debate...we'r discussng...u r the only one who debate n goes emotional...n its not good callng people 'idiot'..mybe they'r wrong,but at least they gave a try to solve,n think...not emotionally mad,insulting others...sorry to say..i tought all people here a matured n wise enough share n discuss,mayb i'm in a wrong place,or mayb just at a wrong time..anywy,its good to talk about this,i'm enjoyed:)

debate?this is not a debate...we'r discussng...u r the only one who debate n goes emotional...n its not good callng people 'idiot'..mybe they'r wrong,but at least they gave a try to solve,n think...not emotionally mad,insulting others...sorry to say..i tought all people here a matured n wise enough share n discuss,mayb i'm in a wrong place,or mayb just at a wrong time..anywy,its good to talk about this,i'm enjoyed:)

nothing wrong or bad to discuss. but when we talk about Kampung Baru, why cliche topics always being pointed like;

"apa penduduk kampung baru akan dapat dari projek mewah ni?"

or

"nasib penduduk kampung baru akan tergadai"

that's why as i said, our fathers already talked about this year by year, yet still Kampung baru remain as 'kampung' baru.

the key problem of kampung baru is; the multiple ownership. satu plot tanah, ada berbelas-belas nama. and they are hard to reach those owners as one or two of them might already dead. so, DBKL sees that to let the people kampung baru to change by themselves is something hopeless!!

so, what else other options than to FORCE them to change?

if you wanna ask about "apa benefit yg penduduk kampung baru?" then you might as those peoples to find the oppoturnities themselves. kerajaan dah takder masa dah nak melayan org kampung tak taknak berubah ni...

sorry kalo emotional...

salam...nice design by hijjas anywy,the master of form n conceptual...anywy,do we really need to spend rm 500 million?do we really need dat amount of money to generate economy of the local people?the uge tower can really save them?of courz the project can generate economy,but not sure it mostly will benefit the local,the people of kg baru..looking bck at other projct,well...anywhere in the world dat use this kind of slogan,to help n generate the economy of local people,mostly after it was dun,where was the local people?mostly there was banished or transfer to other places..or myb they will move away by themselves...why?coz they cant afford to survive..wether bznes or lifestye..or myb both..bsides,this kind of projct mostly benefit for some of people..the word 'pembangunan' n 'permodenan' r totally different n to help the economy of people of kg bru,dont really need those towers from my point of view,event small building that works well with the activities of the local people n really connect with the site n surrounding can help to achieve the aim..looked bck at most of 'medan selera' prepared by gov. all around m'sia..not all really works..why?coz the architect dont understand the need of the local people n their actvties...but myb hijjas know it well(i really hope)n his design strategy really works to help those people of kg bru...n made me wrong bout diz..n lets hope people of kg bru dont get sweep up from their own land...hop dat no one hurts by my comment,im 3rd yr archtectural giving my opinion:)

Bob Doyle. a genius director who successfully turn the slumdog story into a multi-million dollar movie.

only smart people (few) are talented enough to see things that many people can't see. so, belajar-belajarlah....

nothing wrong or bad to discuss. but when we talk about Kampung Baru, why cliche topics always being pointed like;

"apa penduduk kampung baru akan dapat dari projek mewah ni?"

or

"nasib penduduk kampung baru akan tergadai"

that's why as i said, our fathers already talked about this year by year, yet still Kampung baru remain as 'kampung' baru.

the key problem of kampung baru is; the multiple ownership. satu plot tanah, ada berbelas-belas nama. and they are hard to reach those owners as one or two of them might already dead. so, DBKL sees that to let the people kampung baru to change by themselves is something hopeless!!

so, what else other options than to FORCE them to change?

if you wanna ask about "apa benefit yg penduduk kampung baru?" then you might as those peoples to find the oppoturnities themselves. kerajaan dah takder masa dah nak melayan org kampung tak taknak berubah ni...

sorry kalo emotional...

see,its gud to keep our temper down...peace upon u my fren..well,sumtimes people r so stubborn,i admit it,especially when dealing wit low educated ppl(not trying to say they r stupid),but..i still believe somehow there is a way rather than force,coz force can generate anger..anger generate hate...hate generate suffering...but u got the point anyway,well...i got no more idea bout this issues,cant keep thngkng anymore(doing this while fnishng my fnal projct,exam)...rite now i'm prying thre wll be a chnge for all of us,change for a better days for all of us,that benefit each all of us,no matter what color we r...wsalam,nce 2 meet all of u:)

see,its gud to keep our temper down...peace upon u my fren..well,sumtimes people r so stubborn,i admit it,especially when dealing wit low educated ppl(not trying to say they r stupid),but..i still believe somehow there is a way rather than force,coz force can generate anger..anger generate hate...hate generate suffering...but u got the point anyway,well...i got no more idea bout this issues,cant keep thngkng anymore(doing this while fnishng my fnal projct,exam)...rite now i'm prying thre wll be a chnge for all of us,change for a better days for all of us,that benefit each all of us,no matter what color we r...wsalam,nce 2 meet all of u:)

for your information, i love kampung baru more than anyone else here do. i always take my bike there and see those houses in kampung baru. but the dirtiness of the area makes me hate the attitude of the peoples. no wonder they aren't change.

who say force generate anger? dont you see singapore? it is a good example where 'force' is good and the only way to change people. if they hate it, than tell them to screw themselves!

kampung baru dah terlalu lama dibiar lapok. tiba masanya kerajaan 'bersihkan' dia. it has huge potential as tourist attraction but the peoples there are not serious about that, and yet they still asking 'what going to happen with us'...

"poor peoples think about problems, rich peoples think about opportunities" ;)

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2 big projects in kg baru!!!....

The supposed site of view
by tongsala

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The supposed site of view
by tongsala

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correction......ini bukan kampung baru tapi kampung datuk keramat.......!!!!!

Does anyone know the overall planning map for Kg Baru? If the two buildings are constructed in that tiny strip, can they be easily accessed? Traffic flow?

correction......ini bukan kampung baru tapi kampung datuk keramat.......!!!!!

...Tengok jauh kebelakangan/Ketepian kampung datuk keramat tu lah bang! Amboi!!!!

Jika bayangan bagaimana hebat kabungan menara/wisma kat bandaraya kalau projek ini membangun lancar !!! :)

The site:
by Matthew Chong
http://www.pbase.com/chongma/image/110480459

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The site: Kg Baru LRT subway station
by francis4u
http://www.flickr.com/photos/francis4u/3500956992/

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any latest news???

by dlievano

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bilalah nak mula ni???

Bila esok datang!

http://beritaharian.informe.com/gallery/1244-1/015.jpeg

http://kosmo.com.my/kosmo/pix/2009/0409/Kosmo/Rencana_Utama/ru_02.3.jpg


A lot of details at the wall behind!
Another artist impression

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/25/09/50/4127927_619x436.JPG

Puncak Baru Project in Kampung Baru,KL
Developer : NAZA TTDI
Source: http://wikimapia.org/12054413/Puncak-Baru-Project-in-Kampung-Baru-KL

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/25/09/57/4128006_559x253.JPG

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2893/80133325.jpg

Very clear site of project @ Kg. Baru subway station
by hkskyline

http://www.globalphotos.org/kualalumpur/20090228/IMG_9106.jpg

http://www.globalphotos.org/kualalumpur/20090228/IMG_9119.jpg

http://www.globalphotos.org/kualalumpur/20090228/IMG_9131.jpg

Still no progress?

No progress yet....
by giojo2008
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31055168@N04/3758780063/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3758780063_9a31bd5da1_b.jpg

kat mana projek ni
aku nak pergi carikla esok

Puncak Baru Project in Kampung Baru,KL
Developer : NAZA TTDI
Source: http://wikimapia.org/12054413/Puncak-Baru-Project-in-Kampung-Baru-KL

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/06/25/09/57/4128006_559x253.JPG

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2893/80133325.jpg

Dalam bulatan tu (kat kg.baru subway lrt station)!!!!:cheers: nazrey already post #135-136

Puncak Baru Project In Kampong Baru To Cost RM500 Million
March 30th 2009

KUALA LUMPUR, March 30 (Bernama) -- The Puncak Baru project, a mixed deveopment venture on the site of the Sunday market in Kampong Baru here, is estimated to cost RM500 million.

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique said the project on the land owned by City Hall (DBKL), provides a balance, by taking into account the needs of local residents and that of the property market.

He said that the project comprises four main components,a 60-storey condominium tower with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses as well as an integrated development for the Kampong Baru LRT station and business space or "Bazaar".

"The Puncak Baru project is expected to change and enhance the image of Kampong Baru into a modern village cum commercial centre with the same world status as that of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre or KLCC," he said at the ceremony to launch Puncak Baru in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Sunday market site here Monday.

The project was launched by the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Zulhasnan also hoped that the project would serve as the catalyst for the development of Kampong Baru as a whole.

Meanwhile, Naza TTDI chairman SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin said the project is expected to begin within three months and slated for completion in four or five years time.


-- BERNAMA

Kg.Baru LRT subway station will get redevelopments also!
I guess will get retail and restaurant to dining with breathtaking view of KLCC skyline overthere!!!!

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3007/48709129.jpg

Still no progress?

could be squabbling w/ the landowner about the price.

actually was there a ground breaking for this project?????

yes, and they supposely to start by last june.

-edit(slah post)-

http://www.globalphotos.org/kualalumpur/20090228/IMG_9119.jpg

I think got something new at the site!!??
Current pic >

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/10/17/12/46/5576081_736x390.JPG

are they facing any problems with this project?whats going on?

are they facing any problems with this project?whats going on?

Bantahan dari penduduk2 tempat situ kot,imagine building a high class developed highrise surrounded by low wealth homes,for sure its insighfull...

Harap2 developer yg buat project ni bolehlah buat urban beautification in that area to improve life of the ones living in those rumah kampung by building proper houses or mid wealth apartments for them :)

Bantahan dari penduduk2 tempat situ kot,imagine building a high class developed highrise surrounded by low wealth homes,for sure its insighfull...

Harap2 developer yg buat project ni bolehlah buat urban beautification in that area to improve life of the ones living in those rumah kampung by building proper houses or mid wealth apartments for them :)

aik?ari tu pak lah bukan main confident that this project was on going?the news caster said the project will start in july that year.aparaaaah..some how i knew it wont be that easy.arent they supposed to settled any possible problems first before telling the whole country about this project?

aik?ari tu pak lah bukan main confident that this project was on going?the news caster said the project will start in july that year.aparaaaah..some how i knew it wont be that easy.arent they supposed to settled any possible problems first before telling the whole country about this project?

Ntah lah apesal dgan Pak Lah,planning semua salah kot :lol:

but this project does have big potentials!!,really looking forward for it to start and see it rise :)

Ntah lah apesal dgan Pak Lah,planning semua salah kot :lol:

but this project does have big potentials!!,really looking forward for it to start and see it rise :)

hmmm...kita tunggu dan lihat jer la..hopefully they will start next year.

From flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/4034746738_0a1114599f_b.jpg

bila projek nie mula? next year ke? 2010

i think this project already die...hehe...pak lah oh pak lah....

^^ Not dead la,just anggap project ni proposal,cause there is still no activities going on yet...

Raja Nong Chik Uses 7P Philosophy To Help City Dwellers
By Jumiati Rosly

The final part of the interview with the Federal Territories and Urban Well-being Minister in conjunction with the Federal Territories Day.

PUTRAJAYA, Jan 31 (Bernama) -- He was appointed Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister less than a year ago, but with his 25 years "experience as a commoner", Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin stepped up to improve the wellbeing of the people in the Federal Territories.

Armed with the 7P Philosophy, Raja Nong Chik conducted regular and informal visits to the ground to listen to the people's problems.

"I have been politically involved in the Federal Territories for about 20 years, so I know the basic problems faced by the city dwellers.

"When I was appointed to lead the ministry, I use the 7P Philosophy to help me focus on the job," he said in an exclusive interview with Bernama in conjunction with the 36th Federal Territories Day here.

He said the 7P Philosophy consisted of seven aspects namely development, housing, maintenance, hawkers, enforcement, public transportation and caring attitude.

Raja Nong Chik expressed confidence that if the ministry were to focus on the seven aspects, its performance would be improved, the people would be satisfied, and it would eventually bring a better impact on the government especially during election.

On housing woes in Kuala Lumpur, he said the ministry had issued 28,000 application forms for the tenants of the People's Housing Project (PPR) to purchase their units.

So far, he said 24,000 applications were received by the ministry, 15,000 of which had been processed.

"Although the Prime Minister had announced the sale of 47,000 PPR units in the city, we have yet to receive some of the houses from the Housing and Local Government Ministry.

"From the feedback that we received, 85 per cent of the PPR tenants have shown interests to purchase their units," he said.

On squatters, he said there were approximately 5,000 squatters in government-owned land in Kuala Lumpur, especially in Jinjang, Kepong, Cheras and Kampung Pandan.

"I want to stress that while aiming to achieve zero-squatter, our main target is to ensure the squatters' wellbeing so that they can accept the idea of relocation," he said.

Raja Nong Chik said forcing the squatters to move would not do any good, especially when they started to stage protests against the government.

While lauding those who had accepted the government's offer to be relocated into PPR units, he said they were living in a better condition now and enjoying facilities like community hall and surau.

On hawker issues, the minister said a policy on hawkers would be drafted with transparent enforcement to turn the job into a respectable profession.

Currently, he said there were 50,000 registered hawkers in Kuala Lumpur, while over 50,000 others were unregistered.

Raja Nong Chik said the 7P Philosophy also promoted caring attitude among the ministry's staff, especially in discharging their duties.

"What's the point of doing something if, at the end of the day, the people are left feeling dissatisfied?

"In the relocation of squatters, for example, we should also think about where they should be relocated to and how it should be done. If we see that their rights need to be defended, then we should find a way to defend them," he said.

As a result of this caring attitude, the minister had also expanded the scope of the Federal Territories Foundation to help the people.

"Usually, the government procedures to help flood or fire victims as well as the needy would take quite some times. Via the foundation, we can offer direct help and assistance to the needy in just 12 hours, he said.

Relating his experience, Raja Nong Chik said he was once forced to go to the Kuala Lumpur City Hall for almost 50 times just to help the squatters in Kampung Pasir Permata, which was formerly known as Kampung Pasir Lama.

"If someone with a title like me had to go through all that, then imagine what those who are new in the city would have to go through. Who will help these people if we don't?" he said.

On the proposed development in Kampung Baru, he said the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak was expected to visit the area next month.

"I hope the proposed development could be implemented soon. The longer the land owners have to wait, the bigger their losses will be because the value of the property in Kampung Baru differs from other areas in the vicinity of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre (KLCC).

"I do hope during my tenure, a significant approach could be taken so that Kampung Baru would be developed," he said.

Apart from his 7P Philosophy, Raja Nong Chik is also among the ministers who are active using their weblog and Facebook as a platform to reach out to the people.

He said the social networking website, Facebook, was very effective as many new ideas and suggestions were being thrown in, especially by the young people.

"These young citizens rarely attended my programmes and if they were, they probably did not get the chance to speak directly to me. But, thanks to Facebook, they can now interact with me," he said.

Raja Nong Chik has his "Facebook Hour" every Wednesday where he spent one hour to answer all questions directly in real time.

Meanwhile, on the 36th Federal Territories Day celebration, the minister hoped that it would give a new spirit for the people to work closely with the ministry to improve and develop the territories while reducing political controversies.

"We have to focus on how to cooperate and improve our existing facilities, as well as our attitude to be of a world-class. That includes no littering and no illegal parking," he said.

-- BERNAMA



hopefully it will have something to do with this Puncak Baru:cheers:

Puncak Baru Project In Kampong Baru To Cost RM500 Million

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2591/51083808.jpg

AN ARTISTS IMPRESSION
- From Utusan Malaysia Online

KUALA LUMPUR, March 30 (Bernama) -- The Puncak Baru project, a mixed development venture on the site of the Sunday market in Kampong Baru here, is estimated to cost RM500 million.

Federal Territories Minister Datuk Seri Zulhasnan Rafique said the project on the land owned by City Hall (DBKL), provides a balance, by taking into account the needs of local residents and that of the property market.

He said that the project comprises four main components,a 60-storey condominium tower with 392 residential units, 40 floors of office units, three floors for shopping and businesses as well as an integrated development for the Kampong Baru LRT station and business space or "Bazaar".

"The Puncak Baru project is expected to change and enhance the image of Kampong Baru into a modern village cum commercial centre with the same world status as that of the Kuala Lumpur City Centre or KLCC," he said at the ceremony to launch Puncak Baru in conjunction with the redevelopment of the Sunday market site here Monday.

The project was launched by the Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

Zulhasnan also hoped that the project would serve as the catalyst for the development of Kampong Baru as a whole.

Meanwhile, Naza TTDI chairman SM Nasarudin SM Nasimuddin said the project is expected to begin within three months and slated for completion in four or five years time.


-- BERNAMA

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Integrated development for the Kampung Baru LRT station and retail space

Residents welcome PM's proposal
2010/02/09 R. Sittamparam
http://streets.nst.com.my/Tuesday/Stories/20100209005653/Article

http://streets.nst.com.my/Tuesday/Stories/20100209005653/insidepix1

The residential lots in Kampung Baru have multiple owners.

KUALA LUMPUR: The Kampung Baru community has welcomed the recent statement by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak on the redevelopment plans for the enclave.

National Umno Youth executive councillor Nazir Hussin Akhtar Husin, who is Kampung Baru Umno branch youth chief, said Najib's announcement that residents would have a say on how the area would be redeveloped was a refreshing change.

"It is unlike previous proposals which gave priority to the demands of the private sector," he said, adding that the prime minister's statement had changed the residents' perception that the area was not meant for development.

After his walkabout there on Friday, Najib had also said that the residents would not have to relocate and proposed that the residents hand over their land to the government for development so they would see a gain in value.

Kampung Baru's potential value, he had said, was over RM20 billion.

The prime minister had said that the redevelopment would retain the Malay cultural elements and legacy of the area to reflect a unique image.

Nazir said the government needed to settle the issue of multiple ownership of residential lots which deprived them of the power to sell or redevelop the lots.

He said: "In some cases, a single lot has 140 owners.

"The government needs to introduce a mechanism to make it possible to sell or develop a lot, say, with the consent of about 80 per cent of the registered owners.

"Otherwise, this area can never be legally developed."

Nazir, however, hoped the development of the area could be done in phases and not as a "nuclear development" as this would only worsen traffic congestion in the area and halt further development.

He also said the mechanism for redevelopment as contained in the Kuala Lumpur City Council (DBKL) masterplan needed to be reviewed.

The 110-year-old Kampung Baru enclave is slated for redevelopment under the Draft Kuala Lumpur City Plan 2020.

The first proposed project is the Puncak Baru mixed development, to be built on a 1.5ha site, belonging to City Hall.

The project comprises a condominium tower with residential units, office units and shops as well as an integrated development for the Kampung Baru LRT station and retail space.

Meanwhile, Kampung Baru weekly market traders and welfare association deputy president Mohamad Nadzri Abdul Hamid also hailed Najib's announcement as positive and long overdue.

He said his association had been locked in a struggle with City Hall since plans to redevelop the area was announced two years ago.

"We have 190 traders originally operating here but City Hall only wanted to offer 59 business lots at the Puncak Baru commercial centre.

"Most of our members are second-generation traders who were relocated here from Jalan Perkins (now Jalan Raja Alang) in 1967 and those subsequently assigned lots developed by Majlis Amanah Rakyat (Mara) and DBKL."

Nadzri said although discussions with City Hall on the matter had been ongoing, there was nothing in black and white so far.

"Now that Najib has taken up this matter, I am hopeful things will work out for us."

A committee member of the association, Suleiman Abdul Kadir, said the association was also confident with the ability of the Federal Territories and Urban Wellbeing Minister Datuk Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin to resolve their woes.

Suleiman, 56, a father of eight, said many traders like him were forced to move their businesses out of Kampung Baru due to poor demand but City Hall should still recognise them as the village's original traders and provide them with business lots in the new development projects.

Suleiman said the Kampung Baru weekly market was a popular tourist attraction in its early days, with a Tourist Development Corporation (TDC) centre set up there together with a cultural stage and large restaurant.

Now, the TDC centre and cultural stage lie abandoned.

Handicraft producer Moonair Nazir, said: "We're glad that Najib has upgraded our lots from the RM350 per square foot offered by City Hall earlier.

"We believe the value should be on par with the surrounding areas which are valued at RM2,000 per square foot."

Another resident, Herman Shah Ramli said: "We don't reject development but we do not want to be left out in the process.

"We want to be part of any development project here, be it residential or commercial."

so pojek ni confirm jadi...huhu!! 1st mega projek 4 kg baru huh!!!...paling early start mid2010....

Handicraft producer Moonair Nazir, said: "We're glad that Najib has upgraded our lots from the RM350 per square foot offered by City Hall earlier.

"We believe the value should be on par with the surrounding areas which are valued at RM2,000 per square foot."

:)RM350 as to RM2000 per sq ft,And the distance to the golden triangle is less than a 1km the the border is just the river and elevated highway thats amazing!!!:ohno:

Kampung Baru (the core sector) is a reserved land. hard to change hand. no wonder the price is RM350per sq ft. while some part are either government owned land or PKNS, which can be raised up to RM2000. unless kerajaan cabut status tanah kampung baru, or kerajaan sendiri yang beli tanah tu, then only it can be same RM200. or else, it will remain RM350.....

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3620/kampungbaru.jpg

KL draf plan 2020 mentioning about the Precint A : Kawasan Perniagaan dan Kebudayaan Kampung Baru which include the Puncak Baru. emm...i wonder where the PKNS flats are? are they plan to demolish the ugly looking flat?

seriously i don't like highrise to be there. either they are low class flat or even luxury condos. because booming population in that area which circled by narrow streets really makes Kampung Baru insanely crowded with human and cars , while losing it's 'kampung' identity.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3620/kampungbaru.jpg

^^ government owned land waiting to be developed (red circle). currently occupied by shanty slums :bash:

^^ I just dunno what to say,it looks very messy and not organized at all,i wonder how they can bare it like that,some of the shacks there are facing all kinds of directions and placed so close together! :ohno:

^^ I just dunno what to say,it looks very messy and not organized at all,i wonder how they can bare it like that,some of the shacks there are facing all kinds of directions and placed so close together! :ohno:

sorry for my bad mouth, but those peoples are uncivilized and don't have the ability to think the future of their children...

some houses can even afford astro but 'can't afford' better home for their family :sleepy:

totally agree,my eyes bleed looking at that....

:banana: but have to wait longer....


NAZA GROUP'S PLANS
Source: TheEdge City & Country May 24, 2010
Credits to Racheal Lee
Revealed by S M Faliq SM Nasimuddin



NAZA TTDI SDN BHD and KUMPULAN JETSON BHD
ALL PROJECTS SCHEDULED FOR 2010

1. Construction of 50-storey RM641 million FELDA TOWER in Platinum Park KLCC

2. Construction of 50-storey NAZA HQ and a 38-storey office tower in Platinum Park KLCC

3. A RM363 million 35-storey office tower near Platinum Park for en-bloc sale = Eminent 213 Jalan Tun Razak

4. A RM219 million mixed development project = TTDI Dualis, Equine Park Seri Kembangan - launched today

5. A RM179 million project including a 19-storey apartment and 22-storey office tower = Plot O, Seksyen 13 Shah Alam

6. A RM313 million project including offices, apartments and shops = Plot J5, Seksyen 13 Shah Alam

7. A 1.1-acre shop-offices development = Jayamas Phase 3 in TTDI Jaya Shah Alam

8. A RM327 million 113-acre new township project = TTDI Grove in Kajang

9. A RM1 billion 208-acre new township project = TTDI Alam Impian in Shah Alam

10. A RM900 million 53-acre integrated development including homes, offices, hotel, apartments and a mall = TTDI Puchong

11. The first launch of serviced apartment in Platinum Park KLCC - tentatively Dec 2010

12. Construction of the MATRADE CENTRE, Malaysia's largest exhibition and convention centre to begin in 3Q 2010.



EXCITEMENT FOR 2011 AND BEYOND

1. NAZA to finalize plans for Platinum Park Phase 2 with Foster+Partners as main archtect. The plans include residential component, a retail component and a hotel component.

2. NAZA is finalizing plans for other components of MATRADE CENTRE including a 100-storey tower. NAZA plans to make announcement in 3Q 2010 or the end of the year. The whole project will take 15 years.

3. NAZA plans to launch a world class iconic development on 3.7-acre site of the current Sunday market in Kampung Baru in 3Q 2011. NAZA is in the process of revising the master plan for Puncak Baru for submission. :banana:



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Created a diagram of it ages ago,but since there is 'some' good news,here you go.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/4631878448_1d1412d143_o.png

Now lets see whether it comes back to life.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3620/kampungbaru.jpg
I like the new layout of streets in the diagram.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3620/kampungbaru.jpg



I selalu hang out kat rumah member kat flat PKNS tue (tingkat atas)..menghadap highway.

memang lah teramat bising dengar bunyi kenderaan kat hihghway bawah tu...especially weekend where mat rempit/mat kereta racing lewat malam sampai pagi.tak tenteram.

dia renovate rumah pasang cermin sliding pun bising juga.
wonder resident future condo situ boleh tahan dengan bunyi bising nanti.
unless unit condo tu nanti sound-proof. :)

Kampung Baru

In its Puncak Baru project in Kampung Baru, the Malay settlement in the heart KL city, Naza TTDI has proposed a mixed development of office and residential towers and plans to launch these by 3Q2011. The development on the 3.7-acre site of the current Sunday market in Kampung Baru is estimated to cost RM500 million.

“Kampung Baru has been Naza’s headquarters for years and we feel it would be good for us to give something back. We are preparing a master plan for Puncak Baru for submission. We are probably the first developer to redevelop Kampung Baru. We might go for mid-range apartments, to complement the KLCC area, and they will be something iconic,” Faliq says.

The Cabinet recently approved a redevelopment plan for Kampung Baru.

As for its RM512 million Puncak Baru project on the 2.7-acre site of the Sunday market in Kampung Baru, he said the company has submitted plans to Kuala Lumpur City Hall for approval.

The project — which will feature offices, serviced apartments and a retail podium — is right across the proposed mass rapid transit (MRT) station site in Kampung Baru, he noted.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-a-views/6711-naza-ttdi-plans-rm16b-launches-for-2011.html

dead????

mati2 ingatkan projek ni menjadi lepas tgk model n masterplan yg dah complete ...hurmm...rupa-rupanya mmg dah mati pon,agak2 sbb ape erk?
http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx276/afiqnadzir/KL10_300309_PM_PUNCAKBARU_opt.jpg

kg baru lah...

GE coming.. nobody dare say anything now

i miss dis project...no news nutin......

i miss dis project...no news nutin......

still waiting for that Kampung Baru Redevelopment Bill thing... despite the fact this is Naza's private land now, no?

The whole kampong Baru need to be redeveloped like those korean cities..

http://www.arup.com.my/images/projects/4120120508153317_1.jpg

arup.com.my/

wujud lagi???

I think after election....

The triangular roof building needs to be taller...taller! At least 60 storeys please!

http://www.arup.com.my/images/projects/4120120508153317_1.jpg

arup.com.my/

Stated there 34 & 35 stories only :ohno:

I think 34/35 tu tower yg sebelah kanan...tgk mcm ada beza 1tingkat..maybe yg taller tu dlm45-50 kot

Created a diagram of it ages ago,but since there is 'some' good news,here you go.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/4631878448_1d1412d143_o.png

Now lets see whether it comes back to life.



Victor, do u use Auto-Cad or Vector Works for ur drawings here?

Victor, do u use Auto-Cad or Vector Works for ur drawings here?

I'd like to know it too